August 15, 2024 • 42 mins
Doug welcomes Kelley Ford onto the pod to get into the weeds on some of the more intriguing college football storylines heading into the season. Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take on the Matthew Judon deal. Plus, Doug chooses among deserving candidates for who is most annoying today.
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we have really good stuff today. Let's welcome in Kelly Ford,
who has the k Ford Ratings. He's going to join
us throughout the college football season. And yesterday, I think
it was yesterday, you dropped the predictive analysis on who's
going to play the most one score games?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Correct, Yeah, that's right, Doug.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay, so how do you calculate that?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
So using my power ratings, I'm able to general a
projected spread for every single game involving an FBS team.
So what you're doing is you're filtering through every single
team schedule and looking at how many of these games
are currently projected to be plus or minus one possession
in either direction, either as a small favorite or a
small underdog, and you can quantify how many games in
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a season the team is expected to be in those
And honestly, Doug, what we learn in college football is
that in any given year, there's going to be a
handful of teams who play in a half dozen or
maybe more single possession games. Most teams find themselves somewhere
around five hundred in those games. But what we find
is there are a small number of teams who do really,
really well and go maybe you know, seven and oh
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or seven and one in one score games. Think about
TCU a couple of years ago when they went to
the National Championship. They were great in one score game.
There are also some teams who really struggle in one
score games. You think about twenty twenty one Nebraska who
went three and nine overall but lost like all nine
games or one possession games that they lost. The one
possession luck that a team has in one year can
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really set a coach up for a promotion or get
them fired, depending on how it goes. So it's a
really interesting analysis and it was fun to see kind
of which teams are projecting to be in the most
of those games this year.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Do you believe it's luck or do you believe it's
coaching that wins teams won score games.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think it's a little bit of both, right, I Mean,
anytime you're talking about a sport that involves eighteen to
twenty two year olds or twenty three year olds with
an oblong ball that could take a bounce here or there.
There is some luck, certainly, But also if we look
at programs that have historically been in one score games
year over a year and have had success, certainly there
is something to that. And so I think it's a
little bit of both. And I think sometimes coaches can
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get too much credit or not enough credit for the
amount of success or the failures that they have in
those types of games.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Kelly Forard joining us here on the Doug Gottleiepshewan Fox Sports.
Right now, you're finishing up now you're finishing up your
preseason rankings for the upcoming college football season. But again
I've obviously have I'm looking online at your at the
previous foray into it, and I did notice that Oklahoma's
at number eight in the country, and I just again
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like I'll just use them. I think there there's a
couple of teams that are more interesting than everybody else.
I think Oklahoma's probably easily top five most interesting team
because they had some success last year, but not great.
Dylan Gabriel Leaves and he goes to Oregon, So you
know you have you have a quarterback who's highly touted,
but we haven't seen a ton from You're stepping up
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in level of consistent competition. Although they don't play Georgia.
They play Bama at home, right, and and Alabama's also
in transition with a new coach. How do you land
upon your previous ranking to this point was number eight
in the country for a team like Oklahoma where there's
so much unknown.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, Oklahoma is a very interesting team. I agree with you, Doug,
and I agree with everything you just said, and I
try to do better job as I move forward here
with doing the power of separating k Ford ratings the
model from Kelly Ford to person and having my own
opinion about these things and not just blindly trusting the
model and all that.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It fits out.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
If there was one team in the top ten right
now in my version two preseason power ratings that I said, Man,
I just don't know if personally I agree they're a
top ten team, it would be Oklahoma. I think they're
certainly a top fifteen team, but I really number eight
in the country. I have my own reservations about that.
I know why the model thinks they are where they are.
Strictly speaking from a model standpoint, They're top fifteen on
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both sides of the ball, so really, really well rounded.
They've made incredible strides and reached the year's under Brettvnables.
On the defensive side, that was always the achilles heel
under Lincoln Riley, no matter how good. The offense was
number one in the country for three straight years in
my model from twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, but the
defense bottomed out as low as number eighty nine in
that time. It was never good enough. The defense is
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getting significantly better under Venables, which we expected all the
success he had of the decoordinator at Clemson prior to
getting the Oklahoma job. When you look at the schedule
Oklahoma plays, though for me, it's the number six most
difficult in the entire country. So even though Oklahoma is
a top ten power rated team in the model, because
the schedule is so difficult, eight and four is still
the most likely record for the Sooners this year based
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on my simulations. Again stepping up into the SEC where
in the Big twelve, certainly Texas and Oklahoma had the
targets on their back and the SEC, there's still blue
blood programs, certainly, but it's a week in, week out thing.
You're just one of another big time program now, so
that actually might help Oklahoma not getting everybody's quote unquote
best punch on a weekend, week out basis. We'll see
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how it goes for them in their first year in
the SEC, but certainly the schedule is very, very difficult
for the Sooners here in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's a great question that I don't know if we'll
ever have the answer for, right, is it are you
better off? Cause to me, I'd say, like, yeah, you
get eybody's best punch. But the truth is in the
Big twelve, like they had more money than everybody but Texas,
Like there's no reason they share better players everybody but Texas. Right,
So yea, So that one becomes really, are you better
off there? Or you better off being just one of
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a bunch of teams. Another team that I'm fascinated by
is Clemson. You know, in the world of college basketball,
the team most of the teams that have had the
most success are not portal teams, right, They're teams that
have built from within. And Clemson is a team they're
not hitting the portal at all, one of just four
teams to not have any kids, the other ones being
the the service academies who can't add people from the portal.
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I'm fascinated by how their season goes. What's your predictive
analysis on the Tigers.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, Clemson and Dabo's approach to the portal. Certainly, he's
in the minority of coaches as you just outlined as
how he's going to roster build, and it's going to
be really interesting, and I think this might be kind
of a make or break year, if you will. If
we take quickly a step back and look at Clemson's
history in the CFP era starting in twenty fifteen, Clemson
from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty never finished outside the
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top five in my Power ratings, and they were number
one in twenty eighteen. That's one of the best teams
of all time college football by my historical model. But
since twenty twenty, they finished ninth and twenty twenty one,
tenth and twenty twenty two, and nineteenth last year in
twenty twenty three in my Power ratings. So this is
still a really good program, but they certainly have taken
a step back from that elite level that they saw
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from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty. I'm projecting number fourteen
this year for Clemson. On the defensive side. They're number
thirteen on the defensive unit, which is, you know, really
really good, but my Clemson standards in the CFT era,
that would actually be the second worst defense that we've
seen out of the Tigers since twenty fourteen. It's the
offense that I'm expecting to take a big jump forward.
Since twenty twenty, this offense has been number seventy four,
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number thirty four, and number fifty five in my unit
rankings on that side of the ball. So being number
twenty this year is a really positive step. I am
very curious for Clemson to see if this roster building
approach that Dabo has taken can pay off long term
or not. There's two games on the schedule that my
numbers currently make Clemson an underdog. Week one, right out
of the gate neutral against Georgia that game in Atlanta,
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and then Week six on the road at Florida State.
I think the winner of that game certainly has the
inside track to at least one of the spots in
Charlotte for the ABC Championship game, both Clemson in Florida
State projecting right now to make it to that game.
The winner there it's going to have a huge lake
up because they'll have that head to head time breaker.
Those two games could quite honestly define Clemson's ability to
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put themselves back in the playoff where they were irregular
for many many years but have since fallen off since
the COVID year in twenty twenty, A.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Lot of red blood and young men are putting in
their applications for Tallahassee Florida. Of course, the famous words
of one Brent Musburger when Florida State before last time
Florida State was at this level. Doug Gottlieb show, Fox
Sports Trio, Kelly Ford k Floridanalysis joining us talking from
college football. The opposite of the Clemson approaches the Colorado approach, right,
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which is portal city. And we've seen portal teams in
last year. Obviously, his first year and start off great,
didn't end well. Offensive line play was bad. You know
they they I would I'm wondering that. I'm sure there's
some luck factors and the Pac twelve is really, really,
really really good, really good. Big twelve I don't believe
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is nearly at that level, and I think Colorado year
two probably a good chance. They're a little bit better.
But they have Nebraska, who you have ranked ahead of
them on the road. They have Colorado State, who of
course played I thought that was an epic game early
near on the road before they head into the Big twelve.
What do we think we get out of Colorado this year?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Colorado is number one in terms of the number of
games in which I'm currently projecting them to play one
possession contest. Ten of Colorado's twelve regular season games are
currently projecting to be one four games. For me, when
you average that out, you expect them to win some
and lose them. Six and six is the most likely
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record for Colorado based on my version two numbers right now.
Which six and six why? I, honestly, Doug, I believe
should be celebrated for a Colorado program that outside of
the COVID year, which was a weird year for everyone.
I mean, you have to go back to twenty sixteen,
the last time this team was power rated in the
top seventy, and so this program's been really bad. They
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were number one hundred and twenty five and twenty twenty
two out of one hundred and thirty one teams at
the time Dion came in, changed up everything, got them
up to number seventy two in the model last year.
I'm currently projecting number forty three. My fear is that
if Colorado does actually go six and six, what I
think should be celebrated as great strides improvement and really
moving in the right direction, might be viewed as a
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disappointment because of all of the hype that has been
placed on this team on this program. And admittedly a
lot of it is coming from Colorado themselves, so it's
not like they have anyone to blave except for themselves
for that. But I do think that six and six
would be a good sign for Colorado. I've got a
fifty eight percent chance that they go bowling this year.
I think that'd be a big step. But if they
can be one of those teams that wins seventy five
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eighty percent of their one score games, it is possible
that we are talking about a Colorado team winning eight
nine games this year. It's not likely, but it's possible.
If the one score games go against Colorado and they
struggle in those types of games. It's possible we're looking
at another four win season, and then the questions are
really being sorry to be asked about, is the way
Dion's going about trying to build this roster, build this program.
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Is that sustainable long term? It was a great injection
right when he got hired and they sold out their
spring game that was played in the snow, and it's
great storylines and you've got all Americans there preseason. Americans're
gonna have first round picks. But does it translate to wins.
We're going to find out, and it's going to be
very interesting with the amount of projected close games the
Buffs to have this year.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You can go to Kford ratings dot com or fall
him on Twitter at k Ford Rings. He's one and
only Kelly Ford. He is our and we're we're just
going to grab him and call him our own, our
college football predictive analysis expert. You can hear right here
on the Doug Outlib Show on Fox Sports Traded. Kelly,
You're the best. Can't wait for kickoff. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Thanks, Doug, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
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Speaker 2 (13:12):
Let's get to what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And now.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Here's Brady Quinn on Matthew Judon having a trade in
the works and compared it to Hassan Redick situation with
the New York Jets.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I think what's interesting is do you remember all the
flak that the Falcons got for drafting Michael Pennox. Yeah,
because everyone had slotted in their in their mock drafts,
all the dweams out there in the mock drafts, that
slot they just everyone slotted a ede rusher. That was
where Dallas Turner was going to go, right, Like, I
don't know how many times I saw an edge rusher
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go in a mock draft to Atlanta. And then after
the Michael Pennox pick, there's all this controversy every well,
why do you sign cousins?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
What are you all?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
This all this about the decision that they made well
but just so comes to work out, Like we're now
where those people now, we're the mock draft guys. They
just waiting for twenty twenty five or are they gonna
come back and say Oh, I guess what's wrong. You
guy said it worked out for him. I mean, these
sorts of things happen. It's kind of why when you
find fans who throw in the towel on their team
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after the draft. It's just like, can we just wait
and see how this all plays out, Like there's no
reason to overreact to what happens to the draft, Like
you're not a draft expert. I'm not a draft expert.
Let's just see how this whole thing plays out, all right,
that's all sad. The only question I have is like
he was unhappy in New England because of his contracts.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, yeah, listen. I can agree with Brady and also
say he kind of makes a really terrible point there.
I can agree with the idea, the idea that people
massively overreact to a draft pick not knowing how it
plays out, right, And like, look, he can say what
he wants about the Michael Pennix thing. It's fucking ridiculously
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stupid to sign Kirk Cousins and then draft Michael Pennix.
When Michael Pennix is though, he'll need some time to develop,
like he's twenty four years old, Like you draft a
guy in the first round to play. So you drafted
a backup for two years and signed Kirk Cousins to
start for two years. It doesn't make any sense. That
doesn't That doesn't have anything to do with Matthew Judon.
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The reason they didn't have they're not keeping Judon is
he was brought in by Billa Belichick is a completely
different regime there. He didn't get along. Yes, it was
his contract situation. They don't want to give a new contract,
but like, let's not act like there's any sort of
like the Falcons were sitting there back in April at
the NFL Draft, going, let's take Michael Penix because we're
gonna draft for Matthew Judon halfway through training camp. Sorry,
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I disagree with Brady, even if he makes a good
point about people overreacting to draft picks not seeing the
whole picture. We do see the whole picture. It still
doesn't make sense. They drafted Michael Pennix, who I like. Okay,
but Pennix was seen as big time, big time arm
and a guy who's really developed. You don't draft a
twenty four year old quarterback who started and played for
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five years in college football in the first round to
be a backup to a surefire starter for at least
two years. That doesn't make any sense, regardless of whether
or not they got Matthew Judah for a third round pick.
This is Kabino and Rich filling in for Dan Patrick
this morning. They talked about Aaron Rodgers and his family.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
The other juicy Aaron Rodgers nugget is a book is
coming out where they talk about the decade where he
didn't talk to his parents, blaming it on Olivia Munn,
his ex girlfriend, saying that she got in the middle
of the family.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Yeah, it's it's sticky and unfortunate. The story was that
she would talk about their sex life publicly.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
It's not like she was on call her daddy, right,
but that it's like I'm gonna tell you said, like
I'm my good show.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
They also had issues because they're very religious, and that's
fine and we respect that, but Olivia would make references
or talk about how they shared a bed and the
family had an issue with that. So, even though they're
entitled to having their beliefs and their views, it's a
little unrealistic for a professional NFL player in today's world.
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You can't share a room with his girlfriend.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Every holiday, every get together, whether it's your parents live
in your neighborhood or across the country.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
What you don't.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Want is your family and the woman you love to
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, there's a little bit more to it than that.
And look, we had if you want to listen to
the you know Connor interview, you can just download yesterday's pod.
And we asked him about this. The religious aspect of
it was. It wasn't Olivia Mun's also an atheist. I
think that didn't sit well. Aaron Rodgers is. He's a
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he's more spiritual than religious. And you know, like, look,
I've told people that and I mean this that I
was friendly with Aaron Rodgers and he basically shared with
me without going into details, that his family was religious
to the point of he felt like they were zealous
and they were unaccepting. It wasn't just that they were religious,
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and they were unaccepting that somebody else could have a
different idea of God or not of being God, right,
which is I think that really bothered him. So And
there's also like you have to have a sensitivity towards it.
You know, you got to have a sensitivity about you
know who you're talking, you know who you're talking to
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and who you're talking about. And I don't think Olivia
Munn had any of that sensitivity. So like, I truly
think the real culprit here is his brother, who was
on the Bachelor at the time or Bachelorette at the time,
and it was the fact that his brother kind of
shared state secrets if you will, that Aaron wasn't there, Like,
you don't do that, you know, I guarantee seventy five
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percent of us have some sort of rift in our family.
It doesn't mean people don't talk. There could be something
where somebody bothers you, somebody pisses you off, something he
creeps you out. Somebody's always you know, asking for money, right,
and but you know what, you don't do You don't
share that with the rest of the free world. You
just don't. I'm actually on team Aaron with this one.
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Here's Colin Cowherd talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
My dad has always told me with dak if you
don't give him a surplus of weapons, he's mediocre. I
don't care where he finishes in awards. Eyes doesn't blow
me away. Data without stars, bad and sources. We've had
people on this showing off the show. He doesn't throw
a great ball. So the fact that Jerry Jones is
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taking his dear sweet time with a CD Lamb contract
is crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
This will be a.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
Bottom five offense in the NFL without CD Lamb. They'll
still generate a pass rush without Micah though I would
re sign him, and they can win games with Cooper
Rush if you give them weapons. So see, the Lamb
is uniquely important that they don't really have a clear
number two receiver you could trust. Running back room is thin,
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and that's being nice.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I mean, like, look, the issue with the Cowboys is
I just possibly can't give a shit. I just can't.
It feels like every offseason one of their best players
wants a new deal, and no matter what Jerry says,
he always acquiesces and gives him that deal. And the
one time that he holds firm on Dak Prescott, who
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has a massive cap number this year, suddenly Jerry Jones
is the bad guy again. And we know Jerry Jones
is gonna relent and it probably had to move some
money around. Can't act like I care. It's the Cowboys
every year. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Say.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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or what is annoying Jason Stewart and now it's your annoy.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yes, our our angry producer. He's not angry. You can
be a little negative, a little dry. Jason Stewart adjusts
his microphone and prepares himself to really to just kind
of vent and get all out perfect. You have something,
you have something as well? Right, I do this week?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Why don't you go to I'm gonna go and then Jay,
you can kind of top us off. That's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I'm always topping guys off. Yeah. I think that's a
good idea. Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Pause.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
This is a ritual close to every year in the
return of football, specifically college football, where very dumb people
online start to have arguments over fall weddings. Doug particularly
this idea that you are somehow a bad person for
scheduling a fall wedding because you did not into consideration
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people's addictions to college football Saturdays. And it drives me
mad every time I see this kind of thing, not
in that there was a tweet yesterday and I forget
the account, but basically saying that the wedding is actually
about your guests, not about you, So you're a bad
person for holding this during the fall. I think what's
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getting lost in this is falls already a it's already
a compromise season for weddings, Like you can't do it
in spring because either it's raining, if it's too early,
too late, it's graduations, Summer is kids want to be
on their vacations, and it's honestly just the worst season
as far as it's heat. And then the winter is
off limits because that's holidays, it's traveling the families. You're
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already compromising in that you have a window between late
September through most of October where nothing else is happening
on the calendar. That makes weddings perfect. Except the problem
is that there's college football on there. But this is
a once in a lifetime thing and you're pitting it
up against Iowa State. But that's not really what I'm
annoyed about. What I'm annoyed about is that people are
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using this to make up an excuse if you don't
want to go because you want.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
To watch college football.
Speaker 10 (23:11):
Don't go, But don't make up these excuses that somehow
the other person is the bad person because they decided
to hold a wedding in autumn. That's what I find annoying,
that this is all just a fig leaf to just
like you're just too scared to say I don't want
to go to the to the wedding.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Just don't say you won't go.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Okay, I'm gonna meet you halfway here. I do think
it's it's annoying, okay, But I would also point out
that everything depends right, Like again, if you're, for example,
you're in Oklahoma state alum, I'll just again because I'm
that's why I'm a monter. Just imagine, right, and you're
going to schedule wedding, right, and like that's what you do,
and that's what all your friends do. Well, then by
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all means like you should probably adjust to it. But
if you're not well, then hey, listen, I can't adjust
to your schedule. It's about my schedule. Now. If you
do schedule a fall wedding and you're a college football fan,
then you're not really a college football fan, right or
you're just so pussy whipped that you'll do exactly what
she wants you to do, even though you know it's
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the wrong decision. Okay, So I'm agreeing with you in
the whining about it when like, you're not under any
obligation to come to my wedding, right, I mean, it's
like a fifty to fifty I don't know what the
numbers are in terms of people who attend weddings, but
it's like a fifty to fifty shot. And in many ways, like, hey,
it's better if you don't come, just send a gift, dude,
saves us all money. But I do think that in
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the context of like, if you're a Bama dude, you
can't schedule a wedding or you know, anywhere near the
Iron Bowl, you can't skeed like you got to look
out in advance and understand it. But if you're like
a Northeastern who's not really into wedding, who's not really
into like again, you got to do it around baseball season,
so it's maybe a little bit different. So I agree
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with you that people are weaponizing fall weddings to make
it out to act like they're some high and mighty,
and I got to schedule around your schedule. But again,
like that's like me as all my friends are basketball guys.
So if I scheduled a March or early April wedding,
I would be an asshole because everybody's like, dude, I'm
watching NCAA tournament, like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
That kind of goes to my point that there's no
other good time to really do this the rest of the
count June.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Is usually the best. June is the best time. Maybe
let's be July, but again depends could be too hot,
could be too hot, could be graduations or you know,
also it's much more expensive than too Yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
I just hate that we just do this every year
that we haven't at least found a resolution on this,
and every year the pitchworks come out.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Here's what you do. You do what's best for you, Yes,
what's best for you. Now if you don't do what's
best for you because she wants to do it, then
well then you're just too pussy whipped and you know whatever.
Like that's the imbalance in your marriage and that's always
going to kind of be that way. That's that's sort
of the way it works. That's it. I got something
that That's that's annoying is people who cannot read other
(26:06):
people's pace of which they're doing things, other people's pace
of what they're doing things. Now, this is we talk about.
There's a lot of talk in you know, gen Z
about having empathy and understanding of somebody's emotions. Okay, I
don't understand why that generation or most any other generation
(26:26):
has a group of people that can't read. There are
times in which you should you give off the aura
of well, I can see you're in a bit of
a hurry, so I won't chat you up right like
you should be able to feel these things, or simply
ask sir, are you in a bit of a hurry?
And if you're like, nah, I got all day, then
you can go into your long soliloquy about your cat
(26:47):
and how cute it was, and don't you want to
see this video? I bring it up because oftentimes I
may be running late and I give off the vibe
with somebody who may be running late or tight on time.
During those times, Hey, I just order a coffee. I
don't need a sermon, I don't need a dissertation. There
are other times which I got a flip I got
flip flops on. I'm chilled. I got a book like
(27:07):
read the fucking Room. In terms of the pace of
which somebody needs to have it and how much conversation
we need to have, because what happens is when our
paces are not align, you don't read it. I come
off or other people come off as rude. Well, geez,
you're in a hurry. Yeah, no, shit, I'm actually in
a hurry. I have a job, I have places I
have to go. Couldn't you understand that?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Like I mubbile ordered something because I don't want to
have a conversation. Or I walked up to the counter
and ordered because I'm okay having a conversation. Read not
just the room, read the person that you're dealing with.
That's annoying, JAYSETU, what do you got?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Well, I actually have some thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
The easy solve there is stop talking to strangers. I'm
not talking about you, I'm saying strangers or the person
get in your coffee. I would say ninety percent of
people don't want to be chatty. So how about that
about the default?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Oh no, no, listen, you're in that's the problem. You're
in Los Angeles. When you're in the Midwest, and I
am antisocial, get a little bit. You're in the Midwest,
everybody is probably so friendly. They're so friendly, they're so nice,
and you like, don't want to be a dick, but
you're like, hey, I don't want to be a dick,
(28:22):
but shut the fuck up, give him my coffee. I
gotta go. Yeah right, like there, And there are times
in which I'm super chatty. We can talk about your
kids and your grandkids in her whatever, but there are
times in which is not so. Again, part of it
is you're looking at this from a guy who lives
in Los Angeles, where you can be an asshole, and
everyone's like, eh.
Speaker 10 (28:39):
Definitely the South to and you will get judged if
you try to scrimp on those conversations.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
No, no, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
In I was. I was in a a drive through yesterday,
a Dutch Brother's coffee, for example, getting my daughter a
coffee was their day off, which she's going off to school,
and the lady was like, I was trying to meet her.
I had like time crunches or whatever, and then I
went to I bought her a computer. You need a computer,
so she had an iPad for like seven eight years,
and she's like, I kind of need a computer. So
then I get a computer and I knew exactly what
(29:05):
I wanted. And the guy's like talking to about this.
There's the Apple Care planned, and there's the best Biplus plan,
and then there's the and then at some point finally
he can go like I can tell you'un hurried, like
you think like I alread ran my credit card. I
already said no, let's move on anyway, go ahead, anything
else chase to you on that.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Well, the converse of that guy who's overly chatty when
you just want to buy something is the salesperson who's
not informed. I remember a buddy of mine went to
buy a family car SUV and he was on the
Chevy Lot and he testedrov a Boyzer and he's like, hey, what,
why is this better than the Explorer And the salesman's
(29:43):
like it just is man. So like, when you actually
want information, that's when that's that's when they need to
step up. The thing that annoys me is b girl
ray Gun. On Monday, I had stated that my maybe
my favorite thing that happened during the Olympics was the
breakdancer from Australia that made a mockery out of the event.
(30:07):
That's a mockery. And then all of the really creative
Twitter responses and memes and they did a lot of
creative ship with it. Like most of the time you
hate what Twitter has to offer, but they really did
the b girl ray Gun Breakdancer really good. And if
she had any sense of humor at all, I think
(30:28):
she could make a thing out of it. She could
become famous. Like who was the who is the guy
from American Idol that was just so awful?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
All the Asian dude, Yeah, he kind of made a
little career of it. Was his name, I don't know,
William Hung, William Helliam Hung.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
There have a sense of humor, laughing at yourself, and
you could like turn fame, especially in this day and
age of influencers, you could turn fame into money.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
What'd she do?
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
She comes out and she's like hey on social media.
I really appreciate the positivity and I'm glad I was
able to bring some joy into your lives. That's what
I had hoped for. I didn't realize that there would
also open the door to so much hate, which has
frankly been devastating, and then she goes on about not
having a sense of humor, and it's like, if you
(31:15):
don't have the self realization to know that you were
ridiculous and that breakdancing is a ridiculous sport, then I
can't help you out. I just can't help you out.
You need to take the good with the bad and
roll with this fame be girl, ray Gun?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Can I can? I can? I can? I jump on
top of possible? That comment? Real quick?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah? Jump on top of it?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah? Okay, here's the thing, Reyga, like you want to
And look, this is the problem with frankly, people who
are not athletes portraying themselves as athletes. You can't have
it both ways. If this is a legitimate sport, you
are the you ever had the man in the arena,
You're the woman in the arena. Okay, you fucking sucked
(32:03):
at your sport. Okay, So if you would prefer us
to just go like, hey, you fucking suck, You're a clown.
You can't dance. Elaine Bennis thinks you can't dance, right, Like,
if you want that, fine, great, we can go there.
But you can't have it both ways. You can't say hey,
(32:25):
this is legitimate sport and then show up and be
a complete clown and then go like, you guys are mean. Yeah,
we're gonna be mean. Sorry, Like, this is not make
a wish, it's the Olympic Games. It's the Olympic Games.
Literally the best of the best of the best in
the entire world. This is for bragging rights of my
(32:48):
country is better than your country. You're an asshole, Reygun
because you have no self awareness.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You are.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I couldn't be an asshole. I just want to dance
and bring awareness. You brought awareness. The only awareness you
brought is that people in Australia apparently don't know breakdancing
from the from the side of my ass. Okay, that's
the reality to it. So yeah we're mean. Okay, that's
social media. You don't like it, don't perform on social media.
You don't like people being critical of your performance, then
don't go to the Olympic Games. What do you think
(33:20):
was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Of millions of I don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You remember the guy who did the dive, who who
everybody tweeted out that looked like he lied in his resume? No,
you remember that one? I don't remember him coming on
to social media go you did mean, you know? Or
the high jumper who was like running and then he's like,
just fuck it, just bailed and jumped in the jumped
in the pit. Do you remember that guy going like
you guys are just mean, No, didn't happen, you know,
I because it's the fucking Olympic Games.
Speaker 10 (33:44):
I also feel like getting clowned on is part of breakdancing.
Like you perform badly, they will let you know at
the event that you did badly.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Agreed to the ex sense to the fact that she's
obviously not a breakdancer. Yeah, okay, I understand the desire
to have this breakdancing competent Titian where dude from France
and dude from England are breakdancing and then they pointed
the other guy and then somebody ends up winning. It's
like a one on one duel, which, by the way,
they didn't have him break dancing, which is fucking stupid.
In addition to it not being a sport, they didn't
(34:12):
even organize it well enough to be a competition the
way it could have been. But regards to which you're right,
like being clowned it's I mean it's just like the
rap battle in eight Mile right. I mean, by the way,
do you remember Marshall Mathers, What was his character in
that one?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
What Rabbit be Rabbit? Be Rabbit?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Do you remember be Rabbit going like, you guys are
just mean to me when he choked in his first rap?
No he didn't. You know why he was.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
The man in the arena?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Sorry, what else is bothering you today?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well?
Speaker 9 (34:42):
One more of a bonus one to oh you love
fucking with tont Tony Romo times?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Now, I know you have a thing because I think
you had a beer with him once, and he's a
good guy to have a beer with. This has nothing
to do.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
With and he has a cousin named Andy Romo, who's like,
great guy. He's literally a his turtle, Like, if you
want to get the whole Tony, get a hold of Andy.
And Andy's the best, Okay anyway, So I'm gonna relate
to Dandy, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
But Tony Romo, I've heard by many people that he's
a good guy, great and he's a great guy to
have to bear with. And I always respect the fact
that he was with Jessica Simpson in our prime I'm
never crime.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Jessica Simpson's solid pull. Oh I'll tell you what I
respect is when he made all that money with the Cowboys,
he built a house with a real basketball gym and
it just has pickup games at his house whenever he wants.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Oh that's good, solid play. So he does all that stuff.
That's cool, and then he's just not a good broadcaster.
So he he was on CBS this morning. Yeah, and
I think he was asked about having Tom Brady now
as competition on Fox, and this is this is how
he articulated the dynamic CBS and Fox. I guess we all.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Know Tom well, yes, Tom Brady, Yes, Tom Brady football.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Games of anybody over one hundred yeah games. I think
it's great.
Speaker 11 (35:58):
I think it's great for the industry that people but
want to go into this, you know, this position and
these roles. I think you find that the NFL has
that the grab and this was not always.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That Troy Aikman I felt like, really started this.
Speaker 11 (36:11):
Yeah, and now it's part of possibly an arc of
your career.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
But Tom's gonna do great. I don't even know what
that meant, Like, I think that that is that's.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Actually the perfect Tony Romo thing where it's like what
hot you know, uh.
Speaker 9 (36:26):
Voice and him just him and and han. I didn't
even know what he'sa I can tell you no, I
can tell you what he said. What what what the Senator.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Meant to say? I'll be the spokesperson for the senator
or for the president of Tony Romo. What the President
meant to say was, you know, he believes that the
tradition of having Super Bowl winning quarterbacks as lead broadcasters
in TV started with Troy Aikman, which, by the way,
is so fucking uneducated it's beyond bizarre, right, Like, did
(36:58):
not do to not know anything about the craft that
you you at one point in time we're at the
top of the mountain of is kind of embarrassing, isn't it. Like, Yeah,
Joe Montana actually was a broadcaster. He was terrible at it,
but he was a broadcaster. Joe Namath of course, Terry
brad Like how did he leave off Terry Bradshaw who
won four fucking suit Bowls? Like again, just that that's
(37:21):
now and and by the way, like that, I actually
think if we play that one more time, Profet, this
is like the perfect embodiment of Tony Romo where it's
like it's a John Madden like what and at the
end he really thinks he wrapped it up perfectly.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
We all know Tom Well, yes, Tom Brady, Tom Brady football.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Games of anybody over a hundred, Yeah games. I think
it's great.
Speaker 11 (37:46):
I think it's great for the industry that people want
to go into this, you know, this position and these roles.
I think you find that the NFL has that the
grab and this was not always that Troy Aikman I
felt like, really started this. Yeah, end, it's true. Now
it's part of an art of your career. But Tom's
gonna do great.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's true. Is that Birlson? Is that Brolson, Nate Birlson,
And I like Nate as well, Like Nate has Nate
has he has cornered the market on like I'm just
a nice guy and agree with everything. Somebody says like
that's a good interview, Like no, actually, you're like, hmm,
I mean didn't your name It didn't Terry Bradshaw hasn't
basically you know, I mean, I know Dandy Don Meredith,
you know, I mean hasn't. Hasn't this actually been something
(38:25):
that TV has always been about right. Magic Johnson was
a was a he was fucking terrible, but he did
color for the NBA when Jordan hit six first half
three skinst Portland Shoulers. Actually, this is the way that really,
really usually usually vanilla broadcasting exists is they sit around
(38:46):
a room at the big networks and they're like, who's
the biggest name? Is he good looking? Can't you put
together an English sentence? And yeah, that's that's good. Right,
Let's let's have him on on air. And it's about
a fifty fifty shot whether or not there fully in
so yeah, I mean every superstar ever has been offered
a TV job, just only Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
(39:08):
and a couple others didn't do it right. Fave would
have done far would have had it. He would have
had the market corner. Eve Ben awesome if he not
sent a dick pick out right. So, I literally think
the opposite of what he's saying is true, but it's
the perfect That's the embodiment of what drives you crazy
about Tony Romo. You know Tom Brady? How wait, just
a lot of one hundred games? Who doesn't know what
(39:29):
Tom Brady game?
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
What you just can't show up. You can't show up
and wing it all the time. Yes, that's what he's doing.
He's talking out of his ass and hopefully nobody will
catch it. So we got Tony Romo be Girl Raygan
the weddings on Saturdays in the Fall that Chris has
an issue with or doesn't have an issue with, but
(39:51):
hates people that have an issue with it. And then
you brought up people that can't read your your pace,
you're pacing.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I know you want me to say Romo. I do.
I know you want to say Romo.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
No, I'm actually playing for Regun today.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I think Raygun's super super annoying. Like all you have
to do, Reagan, let me teach you marketing one on
one from the Jason Stewart Doug Gottlieb School of Marketing.
Lean in not out, lean in. You would have a
career for I think it would last at least six months.
She might, even if she had any fucking brains at all.
(40:28):
Reagan would have a Super Bowl ad, a Super Bowl ad, right,
who wouldn't be sitting there on Super Bowl Sunday, Okay,
watching our Chargers take on our Packers and just see
Reygun there and everybody stops and goes ragun and laugh.
But instead you don't even understand the game that you're playing,
(40:50):
and for that reason you're anoy.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (40:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Because we can.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
That's because we can. Guys.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Cam Newton is ah so on his podcast there's always
there's a guarantee he's gonna say shit or fuck. So
he ends up in this segment a lot, but he does.
He somehow takes the holdouts for the Cowboys and turns
it into a racial thing. This is interesting.
Speaker 12 (41:20):
All efforts and energy is supposed to be towards winning.
If you're saying we're trying to do any and everything
to win, making crazy ass comments like this ain't a
winning for It in't a lot of Michael Parson's that's
walking around. It ain't a lot of CD lambs or
your roster. Let see it. I'm gonna tell you what
(41:41):
he wanted to say. Why this always happen to us
and us meaning black athletes.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, why we.
Speaker 12 (41:47):
Gotta stand on the table and be like, bro, my
work to the team is this.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Did Kirk Couzins, Yes, Kirk Cousins actually did do that.
Who's the idiot co host like Kirk Cousins. Literally, how
about this one? This is amazing thing about Kirk Cousins. Okay,
kirk Cousins was called kirt multiple times by the president
Bruce Allen of the then Washington Redskins. Just so we're aware,
(42:14):
Bruce Allen was in that position when they drafted kirk Cousins.
So did Kirk Cousins have to stand on the table
and to get paid?
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Some fucking idiots.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
God, there's so many stupid people out there, and Cam
Newton making something racial out of something that's not rachel
is that could have been your annoying You do realize
that right could have gotten in under the wire, But
instead we just played it for you because Cam newtonoys,
curses and says stupid shit because we can't. That's it
for the in the Modus podcast. Check out the radio
(42:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show and the Bonus Fox Sports
Radio iHeartRadio app Welcome in, Okay. So if it's your
first time listening to the ind the Bonus podcast, you'll
know that basically, and as it plays out on the
on the iHeart podcast network is this becomes what the
(00:33):
first hour, even though we do it the last hour,
all right, So when you download, you hear this first,
then you hear the rest of the radio show. So
basically this is like an hour radio show, only we
can say and do whatever we want and we don't
have to take traditional breaks and it's a little bit
(00:54):
more free flowing. We do have something called what the
Fox Says, which is basically we play for you clips
really of the day on either Fox Sports Radio or
Fox Sports One, then I comment on it. We have
some other cool stuff we do, like Your Annoying, where
Jason Stewart, who is annoyed by many, finds only a
couple to be annoyed by the in On a daily basis,
(01:15):
we try and determine who's the most annoying person in
sports on Earth. And then we have something called because
we can, where we play for you, usually an audio
clip of somebody cursing many times with other innuendo, and
we can do it unedited because it's a podcast. So
we call it because we can. So that's a and
(01:35):
we have really good stuff today. Let's welcome in Kelly Ford,
who has the k Ford Ratings. He's going to join
us throughout the college football season. And yesterday, I think
it was yesterday, you dropped the predictive analysis on who's
going to play the most one score games?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Correct, Yeah, that's right, Doug.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay, so how do you calculate that?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
So using my power ratings, I'm able to general a
projected spread for every single game involving an FBS team.
So what you're doing is you're filtering through every single
team schedule and looking at how many of these games
are currently projected to be plus or minus one possession
in either direction, either as a small favorite or a
small underdog, and you can quantify how many games in
(02:19):
a season the team is expected to be in those
And honestly, Doug, what we learn in college football is
that in any given year, there's going to be a
handful of teams who play in a half dozen or
maybe more single possession games. Most teams find themselves somewhere
around five hundred in those games. But what we find
is there are a small number of teams who do really,
really well and go maybe you know, seven and oh
(02:42):
or seven and one in one score games. Think about
TCU a couple of years ago when they went to
the National Championship. They were great in one score game.
There are also some teams who really struggle in one
score games. You think about twenty twenty one Nebraska who
went three and nine overall but lost like all nine
games or one possession games that they lost. The one
possession luck that a team has in one year can
(03:04):
really set a coach up for a promotion or get
them fired, depending on how it goes. So it's a
really interesting analysis and it was fun to see kind
of which teams are projecting to be in the most
of those games this year.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Do you believe it's luck or do you believe it's
coaching that wins teams won score games.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think it's a little bit of both, right, I Mean,
anytime you're talking about a sport that involves eighteen to
twenty two year olds or twenty three year olds with
an oblong ball that could take a bounce here or there.
There is some luck, certainly, But also if we look
at programs that have historically been in one score games
year over a year and have had success, certainly there
is something to that. And so I think it's a
little bit of both. And I think sometimes coaches can
(03:42):
get too much credit or not enough credit for the
amount of success or the failures that they have in
those types of games.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Kelly Forard joining us here on the Doug Gottleiepshewan Fox Sports.
Right now, you're finishing up now you're finishing up your
preseason rankings for the upcoming college football season. But again
I've obviously have I'm looking online at your at the
previous foray into it, and I did notice that Oklahoma's
at number eight in the country, and I just again
(04:10):
like I'll just use them. I think there there's a
couple of teams that are more interesting than everybody else.
I think Oklahoma's probably easily top five most interesting team
because they had some success last year, but not great.
Dylan Gabriel Leaves and he goes to Oregon, So you
know you have you have a quarterback who's highly touted,
but we haven't seen a ton from You're stepping up
(04:33):
in level of consistent competition. Although they don't play Georgia.
They play Bama at home, right, and and Alabama's also
in transition with a new coach. How do you land
upon your previous ranking to this point was number eight
in the country for a team like Oklahoma where there's
so much unknown.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, Oklahoma is a very interesting team. I agree with you, Doug,
and I agree with everything you just said, and I
try to do better job as I move forward here
with doing the power of separating k Ford ratings the
model from Kelly Ford to person and having my own
opinion about these things and not just blindly trusting the
model and all that.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It fits out.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
If there was one team in the top ten right
now in my version two preseason power ratings that I said, Man,
I just don't know if personally I agree they're a
top ten team, it would be Oklahoma. I think they're
certainly a top fifteen team, but I really number eight
in the country. I have my own reservations about that.
I know why the model thinks they are where they are.
Strictly speaking from a model standpoint, They're top fifteen on
(05:29):
both sides of the ball, so really, really well rounded.
They've made incredible strides and reached the year's under Brettvnables.
On the defensive side, that was always the achilles heel
under Lincoln Riley, no matter how good. The offense was
number one in the country for three straight years in
my model from twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, but the
defense bottomed out as low as number eighty nine in
that time. It was never good enough. The defense is
(05:51):
getting significantly better under Venables, which we expected all the
success he had of the decoordinator at Clemson prior to
getting the Oklahoma job. When you look at the schedule
Oklahoma plays, though for me, it's the number six most
difficult in the entire country. So even though Oklahoma is
a top ten power rated team in the model, because
the schedule is so difficult, eight and four is still
the most likely record for the Sooners this year based
(06:14):
on my simulations. Again stepping up into the SEC where
in the Big twelve, certainly Texas and Oklahoma had the
targets on their back and the SEC, there's still blue
blood programs, certainly, but it's a week in, week out thing.
You're just one of another big time program now, so
that actually might help Oklahoma not getting everybody's quote unquote
best punch on a weekend, week out basis. We'll see
(06:35):
how it goes for them in their first year in
the SEC, but certainly the schedule is very, very difficult
for the Sooners here in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's a great question that I don't know if we'll
ever have the answer for, right, is it are you
better off? Cause to me, I'd say, like, yeah, you
get eybody's best punch. But the truth is in the
Big twelve, like they had more money than everybody but Texas,
Like there's no reason they share better players everybody but Texas. Right,
So yea, So that one becomes really, are you better
off there? Or you better off being just one of
(07:03):
a bunch of teams. Another team that I'm fascinated by
is Clemson. You know, in the world of college basketball,
the team most of the teams that have had the
most success are not portal teams, right, They're teams that
have built from within. And Clemson is a team they're
not hitting the portal at all, one of just four
teams to not have any kids, the other ones being
the the service academies who can't add people from the portal.
(07:27):
I'm fascinated by how their season goes. What's your predictive
analysis on the Tigers.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, Clemson and Dabo's approach to the portal. Certainly, he's
in the minority of coaches as you just outlined as
how he's going to roster build, and it's going to
be really interesting, and I think this might be kind
of a make or break year, if you will. If
we take quickly a step back and look at Clemson's
history in the CFP era starting in twenty fifteen, Clemson
from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty never finished outside the
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top five in my Power ratings, and they were number
one in twenty eighteen. That's one of the best teams
of all time college football by my historical model. But
since twenty twenty, they finished ninth and twenty twenty one,
tenth and twenty twenty two, and nineteenth last year in
twenty twenty three in my Power ratings. So this is
still a really good program, but they certainly have taken
a step back from that elite level that they saw
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from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty. I'm projecting number fourteen
this year for Clemson. On the defensive side. They're number
thirteen on the defensive unit, which is, you know, really
really good, but my Clemson standards in the CFT era,
that would actually be the second worst defense that we've
seen out of the Tigers since twenty fourteen. It's the
offense that I'm expecting to take a big jump forward.
Since twenty twenty, this offense has been number seventy four,
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number thirty four, and number fifty five in my unit
rankings on that side of the ball. So being number
twenty this year is a really positive step. I am
very curious for Clemson to see if this roster building
approach that Dabo has taken can pay off long term
or not. There's two games on the schedule that my
numbers currently make Clemson an underdog. Week one, right out
of the gate neutral against Georgia that game in Atlanta,
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and then Week six on the road at Florida State.
I think the winner of that game certainly has the
inside track to at least one of the spots in
Charlotte for the ABC Championship game, both Clemson in Florida
State projecting right now to make it to that game.
The winner there it's going to have a huge lake
up because they'll have that head to head time breaker.
Those two games could quite honestly define Clemson's ability to
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put themselves back in the playoff where they were irregular
for many many years but have since fallen off since
the COVID year in twenty twenty, A.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Lot of red blood and young men are putting in
their applications for Tallahassee Florida. Of course, the famous words
of one Brent Musburger when Florida State before last time
Florida State was at this level. Doug Gottlieb show, Fox
Sports Trio, Kelly Ford k Floridanalysis joining us talking from
college football. The opposite of the Clemson approaches the Colorado approach, right,
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which is portal city. And we've seen portal teams in
last year. Obviously, his first year and start off great,
didn't end well. Offensive line play was bad. You know
they they I would I'm wondering that. I'm sure there's
some luck factors and the Pac twelve is really, really,
really really good, really good. Big twelve I don't believe
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is nearly at that level, and I think Colorado year
two probably a good chance. They're a little bit better.
But they have Nebraska, who you have ranked ahead of
them on the road. They have Colorado State, who of
course played I thought that was an epic game early
near on the road before they head into the Big twelve.
What do we think we get out of Colorado this year?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Colorado is number one in terms of the number of
games in which I'm currently projecting them to play one
possession contest. Ten of Colorado's twelve regular season games are
currently projecting to be one four games. For me, when
you average that out, you expect them to win some
and lose them. Six and six is the most likely
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record for Colorado based on my version two numbers right now.
Which six and six why? I, honestly, Doug, I believe
should be celebrated for a Colorado program that outside of
the COVID year, which was a weird year for everyone.
I mean, you have to go back to twenty sixteen,
the last time this team was power rated in the
top seventy, and so this program's been really bad. They
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were number one hundred and twenty five and twenty twenty
two out of one hundred and thirty one teams at
the time Dion came in, changed up everything, got them
up to number seventy two in the model last year.
I'm currently projecting number forty three. My fear is that
if Colorado does actually go six and six, what I
think should be celebrated as great strides improvement and really
moving in the right direction, might be viewed as a
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disappointment because of all of the hype that has been
placed on this team on this program. And admittedly a
lot of it is coming from Colorado themselves, so it's
not like they have anyone to blave except for themselves
for that. But I do think that six and six
would be a good sign for Colorado. I've got a
fifty eight percent chance that they go bowling this year.
I think that'd be a big step. But if they
can be one of those teams that wins seventy five
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eighty percent of their one score games, it is possible
that we are talking about a Colorado team winning eight
nine games this year. It's not likely, but it's possible.
If the one score games go against Colorado and they
struggle in those types of games. It's possible we're looking
at another four win season, and then the questions are
really being sorry to be asked about, is the way
Dion's going about trying to build this roster, build this program.
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Is that sustainable long term? It was a great injection
right when he got hired and they sold out their
spring game that was played in the snow, and it's
great storylines and you've got all Americans there preseason. Americans're
gonna have first round picks. But does it translate to wins.
We're going to find out, and it's going to be
very interesting with the amount of projected close games the
Buffs to have this year.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
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him on Twitter at k Ford Rings. He's one and
only Kelly Ford. He is our and we're we're just
going to grab him and call him our own, our
college football predictive analysis expert. You can hear right here
on the Doug Outlib Show on Fox Sports Traded. Kelly,
You're the best. Can't wait for kickoff. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Thanks, Doug, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Let's get to what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And now.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Here's Brady Quinn on Matthew Judon having a trade in
the works and compared it to Hassan Redick situation with
the New York Jets.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I think what's interesting is do you remember all the
flak that the Falcons got for drafting Michael Pennox. Yeah,
because everyone had slotted in their in their mock drafts,
all the dweams out there in the mock drafts, that
slot they just everyone slotted a ede rusher. That was
where Dallas Turner was going to go, right, Like, I
don't know how many times I saw an edge rusher
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go in a mock draft to Atlanta. And then after
the Michael Pennox pick, there's all this controversy every well,
why do you sign cousins?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
What are you all?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
This all this about the decision that they made well
but just so comes to work out, Like we're now
where those people now, we're the mock draft guys. They
just waiting for twenty twenty five or are they gonna
come back and say Oh, I guess what's wrong. You
guy said it worked out for him. I mean, these
sorts of things happen. It's kind of why when you
find fans who throw in the towel on their team
(14:16):
after the draft. It's just like, can we just wait
and see how this all plays out, Like there's no
reason to overreact to what happens to the draft, Like
you're not a draft expert. I'm not a draft expert.
Let's just see how this whole thing plays out, all right,
that's all sad. The only question I have is like
he was unhappy in New England because of his contracts.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, yeah, listen. I can agree with Brady and also
say he kind of makes a really terrible point there.
I can agree with the idea, the idea that people
massively overreact to a draft pick not knowing how it
plays out, right, And like, look, he can say what
he wants about the Michael Pennix thing. It's fucking ridiculously
(14:58):
stupid to sign Kirk Cousins and then draft Michael Pennix.
When Michael Pennix is though, he'll need some time to develop,
like he's twenty four years old, Like you draft a
guy in the first round to play. So you drafted
a backup for two years and signed Kirk Cousins to
start for two years. It doesn't make any sense. That
doesn't That doesn't have anything to do with Matthew Judon.
(15:20):
The reason they didn't have they're not keeping Judon is
he was brought in by Billa Belichick is a completely
different regime there. He didn't get along. Yes, it was
his contract situation. They don't want to give a new contract,
but like, let's not act like there's any sort of
like the Falcons were sitting there back in April at
the NFL Draft, going, let's take Michael Penix because we're
gonna draft for Matthew Judon halfway through training camp. Sorry,
(15:41):
I disagree with Brady, even if he makes a good
point about people overreacting to draft picks not seeing the
whole picture. We do see the whole picture. It still
doesn't make sense. They drafted Michael Pennix, who I like. Okay,
but Pennix was seen as big time, big time arm
and a guy who's really developed. You don't draft a
twenty four year old quarterback who started and played for
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five years in college football in the first round to
be a backup to a surefire starter for at least
two years. That doesn't make any sense, regardless of whether
or not they got Matthew Judah for a third round pick.
This is Kabino and Rich filling in for Dan Patrick
this morning. They talked about Aaron Rodgers and his family.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
The other juicy Aaron Rodgers nugget is a book is
coming out where they talk about the decade where he
didn't talk to his parents, blaming it on Olivia Munn,
his ex girlfriend, saying that she got in the middle
of the family.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Yeah, it's it's sticky and unfortunate. The story was that
she would talk about their sex life publicly.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
It's not like she was on call her daddy, right,
but that it's like I'm gonna tell you said, like
I'm my good show.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
They also had issues because they're very religious, and that's
fine and we respect that, but Olivia would make references
or talk about how they shared a bed and the
family had an issue with that. So, even though they're
entitled to having their beliefs and their views, it's a
little unrealistic for a professional NFL player in today's world.
(17:08):
You can't share a room with his girlfriend.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Every holiday, every get together, whether it's your parents live
in your neighborhood or across the country.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
What you don't.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Want is your family and the woman you love to
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, there's a little bit more to it than that.
And look, we had if you want to listen to
the you know Connor interview, you can just download yesterday's pod.
And we asked him about this. The religious aspect of
it was. It wasn't Olivia Mun's also an atheist. I
think that didn't sit well. Aaron Rodgers is. He's a
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he's more spiritual than religious. And you know, like, look,
I've told people that and I mean this that I
was friendly with Aaron Rodgers and he basically shared with
me without going into details, that his family was religious
to the point of he felt like they were zealous
and they were unaccepting. It wasn't just that they were religious,
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and they were unaccepting that somebody else could have a
different idea of God or not of being God, right,
which is I think that really bothered him. So And
there's also like you have to have a sensitivity towards it.
You know, you got to have a sensitivity about you
know who you're talking, you know who you're talking to
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and who you're talking about. And I don't think Olivia
Munn had any of that sensitivity. So like, I truly
think the real culprit here is his brother, who was
on the Bachelor at the time or Bachelorette at the time,
and it was the fact that his brother kind of
shared state secrets if you will, that Aaron wasn't there, Like,
you don't do that, you know, I guarantee seventy five
(18:50):
percent of us have some sort of rift in our family.
It doesn't mean people don't talk. There could be something
where somebody bothers you, somebody pisses you off, something he
creeps you out. Somebody's always you know, asking for money, right,
and but you know what, you don't do You don't
share that with the rest of the free world. You
just don't. I'm actually on team Aaron with this one.
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Here's Colin Cowherd talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
My dad has always told me with dak if you
don't give him a surplus of weapons, he's mediocre. I
don't care where he finishes in awards. Eyes doesn't blow
me away. Data without stars, bad and sources. We've had
people on this showing off the show. He doesn't throw
a great ball. So the fact that Jerry Jones is
(19:38):
taking his dear sweet time with a CD Lamb contract
is crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
This will be a.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
Bottom five offense in the NFL without CD Lamb. They'll
still generate a pass rush without Micah though I would
re sign him, and they can win games with Cooper
Rush if you give them weapons. So see, the Lamb
is uniquely important that they don't really have a clear
number two receiver you could trust. Running back room is thin,
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and that's being nice.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I mean, like, look, the issue with the Cowboys is
I just possibly can't give a shit. I just can't.
It feels like every offseason one of their best players
wants a new deal, and no matter what Jerry says,
he always acquiesces and gives him that deal. And the
one time that he holds firm on Dak Prescott, who
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has a massive cap number this year, suddenly Jerry Jones
is the bad guy again. And we know Jerry Jones
is gonna relent and it probably had to move some
money around. Can't act like I care. It's the Cowboys
every year. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Say.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Let's find out who
or what is annoying Jason Stewart and now it's your annoy.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yes, our our angry producer. He's not angry. You can
be a little negative, a little dry. Jason Stewart adjusts
his microphone and prepares himself to really to just kind
of vent and get all out perfect. You have something,
you have something as well? Right, I do this week?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Why don't you go to I'm gonna go and then Jay,
you can kind of top us off. That's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I'm always topping guys off. Yeah. I think that's a
good idea. Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Pause.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
This is a ritual close to every year in the
return of football, specifically college football, where very dumb people
online start to have arguments over fall weddings. Doug particularly
this idea that you are somehow a bad person for
scheduling a fall wedding because you did not into consideration
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people's addictions to college football Saturdays. And it drives me
mad every time I see this kind of thing, not
in that there was a tweet yesterday and I forget
the account, but basically saying that the wedding is actually
about your guests, not about you, So you're a bad
person for holding this during the fall. I think what's
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getting lost in this is falls already a it's already
a compromise season for weddings, Like you can't do it
in spring because either it's raining, if it's too early,
too late, it's graduations, Summer is kids want to be
on their vacations, and it's honestly just the worst season
as far as it's heat. And then the winter is
off limits because that's holidays, it's traveling the families. You're
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already compromising in that you have a window between late
September through most of October where nothing else is happening
on the calendar. That makes weddings perfect. Except the problem
is that there's college football on there. But this is
a once in a lifetime thing and you're pitting it
up against Iowa State. But that's not really what I'm
annoyed about. What I'm annoyed about is that people are
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using this to make up an excuse if you don't
want to go because you want.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
To watch college football.
Speaker 10 (23:11):
Don't go, But don't make up these excuses that somehow
the other person is the bad person because they decided
to hold a wedding in autumn. That's what I find annoying,
that this is all just a fig leaf to just
like you're just too scared to say I don't want
to go to the to the wedding.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Just don't say you won't go.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Okay, I'm gonna meet you halfway here. I do think
it's it's annoying, okay, But I would also point out
that everything depends right, Like again, if you're, for example,
you're in Oklahoma state alum, I'll just again because I'm
that's why I'm a monter. Just imagine, right, and you're
going to schedule wedding, right, and like that's what you do,
and that's what all your friends do. Well, then by
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all means like you should probably adjust to it. But
if you're not well, then hey, listen, I can't adjust
to your schedule. It's about my schedule. Now. If you
do schedule a fall wedding and you're a college football fan,
then you're not really a college football fan, right or
you're just so pussy whipped that you'll do exactly what
she wants you to do, even though you know it's
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the wrong decision. Okay, So I'm agreeing with you in
the whining about it when like, you're not under any
obligation to come to my wedding, right, I mean, it's
like a fifty to fifty I don't know what the
numbers are in terms of people who attend weddings, but
it's like a fifty to fifty shot. And in many ways, like, hey,
it's better if you don't come, just send a gift, dude,
saves us all money. But I do think that in
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the context of like, if you're a Bama dude, you
can't schedule a wedding or you know, anywhere near the
Iron Bowl, you can't skeed like you got to look
out in advance and understand it. But if you're like
a Northeastern who's not really into wedding, who's not really
into like again, you got to do it around baseball season,
so it's maybe a little bit different. So I agree
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with you that people are weaponizing fall weddings to make
it out to act like they're some high and mighty,
and I got to schedule around your schedule. But again,
like that's like me as all my friends are basketball guys.
So if I scheduled a March or early April wedding,
I would be an asshole because everybody's like, dude, I'm
watching NCAA tournament, like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
That kind of goes to my point that there's no
other good time to really do this the rest of the
count June.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Is usually the best. June is the best time. Maybe
let's be July, but again depends could be too hot,
could be too hot, could be graduations or you know,
also it's much more expensive than too Yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
I just hate that we just do this every year
that we haven't at least found a resolution on this,
and every year the pitchworks come out.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Here's what you do. You do what's best for you, Yes,
what's best for you. Now if you don't do what's
best for you because she wants to do it, then
well then you're just too pussy whipped and you know whatever.
Like that's the imbalance in your marriage and that's always
going to kind of be that way. That's that's sort
of the way it works. That's it. I got something
that That's that's annoying is people who cannot read other
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people's pace of which they're doing things, other people's pace
of what they're doing things. Now, this is we talk about.
There's a lot of talk in you know, gen Z
about having empathy and understanding of somebody's emotions. Okay, I
don't understand why that generation or most any other generation
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has a group of people that can't read. There are
times in which you should you give off the aura
of well, I can see you're in a bit of
a hurry, so I won't chat you up right like
you should be able to feel these things, or simply
ask sir, are you in a bit of a hurry?
And if you're like, nah, I got all day, then
you can go into your long soliloquy about your cat
(26:47):
and how cute it was, and don't you want to
see this video? I bring it up because oftentimes I
may be running late and I give off the vibe
with somebody who may be running late or tight on time.
During those times, Hey, I just order a coffee. I
don't need a sermon, I don't need a dissertation. There
are other times which I got a flip I got
flip flops on. I'm chilled. I got a book like
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read the fucking Room. In terms of the pace of
which somebody needs to have it and how much conversation
we need to have, because what happens is when our
paces are not align, you don't read it. I come
off or other people come off as rude. Well, geez,
you're in a hurry. Yeah, no, shit, I'm actually in
a hurry. I have a job, I have places I
have to go. Couldn't you understand that?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Like I mubbile ordered something because I don't want to
have a conversation. Or I walked up to the counter
and ordered because I'm okay having a conversation. Read not
just the room, read the person that you're dealing with.
That's annoying, JAYSETU, what do you got?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Well, I actually have some thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
The easy solve there is stop talking to strangers. I'm
not talking about you, I'm saying strangers or the person
get in your coffee. I would say ninety percent of
people don't want to be chatty. So how about that
about the default?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Oh no, no, listen, you're in that's the problem. You're
in Los Angeles. When you're in the Midwest, and I
am antisocial, get a little bit. You're in the Midwest,
everybody is probably so friendly. They're so friendly, they're so nice,
and you like, don't want to be a dick, but
you're like, hey, I don't want to be a dick,
(28:22):
but shut the fuck up, give him my coffee. I
gotta go. Yeah right, like there, And there are times
in which I'm super chatty. We can talk about your
kids and your grandkids in her whatever, but there are
times in which is not so. Again, part of it
is you're looking at this from a guy who lives
in Los Angeles, where you can be an asshole, and
everyone's like, eh.
Speaker 10 (28:39):
Definitely the South to and you will get judged if
you try to scrimp on those conversations.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
No, no, I was.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
In I was. I was in a a drive through yesterday,
a Dutch Brother's coffee, for example, getting my daughter a
coffee was their day off, which she's going off to school,
and the lady was like, I was trying to meet her.
I had like time crunches or whatever, and then I
went to I bought her a computer. You need a computer,
so she had an iPad for like seven eight years,
and she's like, I kind of need a computer. So
then I get a computer and I knew exactly what
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I wanted. And the guy's like talking to about this.
There's the Apple Care planned, and there's the best Biplus plan,
and then there's the and then at some point finally
he can go like I can tell you'un hurried, like
you think like I alread ran my credit card. I
already said no, let's move on anyway, go ahead, anything
else chase to you on that.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Well, the converse of that guy who's overly chatty when
you just want to buy something is the salesperson who's
not informed. I remember a buddy of mine went to
buy a family car SUV and he was on the
Chevy Lot and he testedrov a Boyzer and he's like, hey, what,
why is this better than the Explorer And the salesman's
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like it just is man. So like, when you actually
want information, that's when that's that's when they need to
step up. The thing that annoys me is b girl
ray Gun. On Monday, I had stated that my maybe
my favorite thing that happened during the Olympics was the
breakdancer from Australia that made a mockery out of the event.
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That's a mockery. And then all of the really creative
Twitter responses and memes and they did a lot of
creative ship with it. Like most of the time you
hate what Twitter has to offer, but they really did
the b girl ray Gun Breakdancer really good. And if
she had any sense of humor at all, I think
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she could make a thing out of it. She could
become famous. Like who was the who is the guy
from American Idol that was just so awful?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
All the Asian dude, Yeah, he kind of made a
little career of it. Was his name, I don't know,
William Hung, William Helliam Hung.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
There have a sense of humor, laughing at yourself, and
you could like turn fame, especially in this day and
age of influencers, you could turn fame into money.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
What'd she do?
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
She comes out and she's like hey on social media.
I really appreciate the positivity and I'm glad I was
able to bring some joy into your lives. That's what
I had hoped for. I didn't realize that there would
also open the door to so much hate, which has
frankly been devastating, and then she goes on about not
having a sense of humor, and it's like, if you
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don't have the self realization to know that you were
ridiculous and that breakdancing is a ridiculous sport, then I
can't help you out. I just can't help you out.
You need to take the good with the bad and
roll with this fame be girl, ray Gun?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Can I can? I can? I can? I jump on
top of possible? That comment? Real quick?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah? Jump on top of it?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah? Okay, here's the thing, Reyga, like you want to
And look, this is the problem with frankly, people who
are not athletes portraying themselves as athletes. You can't have
it both ways. If this is a legitimate sport, you
are the you ever had the man in the arena,
You're the woman in the arena. Okay, you fucking sucked
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at your sport. Okay, So if you would prefer us
to just go like, hey, you fucking suck, You're a clown.
You can't dance. Elaine Bennis thinks you can't dance, right, Like,
if you want that, fine, great, we can go there.
But you can't have it both ways. You can't say hey,
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this is legitimate sport and then show up and be
a complete clown and then go like, you guys are mean. Yeah,
we're gonna be mean. Sorry, Like, this is not make
a wish, it's the Olympic Games. It's the Olympic Games.
Literally the best of the best of the best in
the entire world. This is for bragging rights of my
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country is better than your country. You're an asshole, Reygun
because you have no self awareness.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You are.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I couldn't be an asshole. I just want to dance
and bring awareness. You brought awareness. The only awareness you
brought is that people in Australia apparently don't know breakdancing
from the from the side of my ass. Okay, that's
the reality to it. So yeah we're mean. Okay, that's
social media. You don't like it, don't perform on social media.
You don't like people being critical of your performance, then
don't go to the Olympic Games. What do you think
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was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Of millions of I don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You remember the guy who did the dive, who who
everybody tweeted out that looked like he lied in his resume? No,
you remember that one? I don't remember him coming on
to social media go you did mean, you know? Or
the high jumper who was like running and then he's like,
just fuck it, just bailed and jumped in the jumped
in the pit. Do you remember that guy going like
you guys are just mean, No, didn't happen, you know,
I because it's the fucking Olympic Games.
Speaker 10 (33:44):
I also feel like getting clowned on is part of breakdancing.
Like you perform badly, they will let you know at
the event that you did badly.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Agreed to the ex sense to the fact that she's
obviously not a breakdancer. Yeah, okay, I understand the desire
to have this breakdancing competent Titian where dude from France
and dude from England are breakdancing and then they pointed
the other guy and then somebody ends up winning. It's
like a one on one duel, which, by the way,
they didn't have him break dancing, which is fucking stupid.
In addition to it not being a sport, they didn't
(34:12):
even organize it well enough to be a competition the
way it could have been. But regards to which you're right,
like being clowned it's I mean it's just like the
rap battle in eight Mile right. I mean, by the way,
do you remember Marshall Mathers, What was his character in
that one?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
What Rabbit be Rabbit? Be Rabbit?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Do you remember be Rabbit going like, you guys are
just mean to me when he choked in his first rap?
No he didn't. You know why he was.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
The man in the arena?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Sorry, what else is bothering you today?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well?
Speaker 9 (34:42):
One more of a bonus one to oh you love
fucking with tont Tony Romo times?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Now, I know you have a thing because I think
you had a beer with him once, and he's a
good guy to have a beer with. This has nothing
to do.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
With and he has a cousin named Andy Romo, who's like,
great guy. He's literally a his turtle, Like, if you
want to get the whole Tony, get a hold of Andy.
And Andy's the best, Okay anyway, So I'm gonna relate
to Dandy, but go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
But Tony Romo, I've heard by many people that he's
a good guy, great and he's a great guy to
have to bear with. And I always respect the fact
that he was with Jessica Simpson in our prime I'm
never crime.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Jessica Simpson's solid pull. Oh I'll tell you what I
respect is when he made all that money with the Cowboys,
he built a house with a real basketball gym and
it just has pickup games at his house whenever he wants.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Oh that's good, solid play. So he does all that stuff.
That's cool, and then he's just not a good broadcaster.
So he he was on CBS this morning. Yeah, and
I think he was asked about having Tom Brady now
as competition on Fox, and this is this is how
he articulated the dynamic CBS and Fox. I guess we all.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Know Tom well, yes, Tom Brady, Yes, Tom Brady football.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Games of anybody over one hundred yeah games. I think
it's great.
Speaker 11 (35:58):
I think it's great for the industry that people but
want to go into this, you know, this position and
these roles. I think you find that the NFL has
that the grab and this was not always.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That Troy Aikman I felt like, really started this.
Speaker 11 (36:11):
Yeah, and now it's part of possibly an arc of
your career.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
But Tom's gonna do great. I don't even know what
that meant, Like, I think that that is that's.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Actually the perfect Tony Romo thing where it's like what
hot you know, uh.
Speaker 9 (36:26):
Voice and him just him and and han. I didn't
even know what he'sa I can tell you no, I
can tell you what he said. What what what the Senator.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Meant to say? I'll be the spokesperson for the senator
or for the president of Tony Romo. What the President
meant to say was, you know, he believes that the
tradition of having Super Bowl winning quarterbacks as lead broadcasters
in TV started with Troy Aikman, which, by the way,
is so fucking uneducated it's beyond bizarre, right, Like, did
(36:58):
not do to not know anything about the craft that
you you at one point in time we're at the
top of the mountain of is kind of embarrassing, isn't it. Like, Yeah,
Joe Montana actually was a broadcaster. He was terrible at it,
but he was a broadcaster. Joe Namath of course, Terry
brad Like how did he leave off Terry Bradshaw who
won four fucking suit Bowls? Like again, just that that's
(37:21):
now and and by the way, like that, I actually
think if we play that one more time, Profet, this
is like the perfect embodiment of Tony Romo where it's
like it's a John Madden like what and at the
end he really thinks he wrapped it up perfectly.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
We all know Tom Well, yes, Tom Brady, Tom Brady football.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Games of anybody over a hundred, Yeah games. I think
it's great.
Speaker 11 (37:46):
I think it's great for the industry that people want
to go into this, you know, this position and these roles.
I think you find that the NFL has that the
grab and this was not always that Troy Aikman I
felt like, really started this. Yeah, end, it's true. Now
it's part of an art of your career. But Tom's
gonna do great.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That's true. Is that Birlson? Is that Brolson, Nate Birlson,
And I like Nate as well, Like Nate has Nate
has he has cornered the market on like I'm just
a nice guy and agree with everything. Somebody says like
that's a good interview, Like no, actually, you're like, hmm,
I mean didn't your name It didn't Terry Bradshaw hasn't
basically you know, I mean, I know Dandy Don Meredith,
you know, I mean hasn't. Hasn't this actually been something
(38:25):
that TV has always been about right. Magic Johnson was
a was a he was fucking terrible, but he did
color for the NBA when Jordan hit six first half
three skinst Portland Shoulers. Actually, this is the way that really,
really usually usually vanilla broadcasting exists is they sit around
(38:46):
a room at the big networks and they're like, who's
the biggest name? Is he good looking? Can't you put
together an English sentence? And yeah, that's that's good. Right,
Let's let's have him on on air. And it's about
a fifty fifty shot whether or not there fully in
so yeah, I mean every superstar ever has been offered
a TV job, just only Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
(39:08):
and a couple others didn't do it right. Fave would
have done far would have had it. He would have
had the market corner. Eve Ben awesome if he not
sent a dick pick out right. So, I literally think
the opposite of what he's saying is true, but it's
the perfect That's the embodiment of what drives you crazy
about Tony Romo. You know Tom Brady? How wait, just
a lot of one hundred games? Who doesn't know what
(39:29):
Tom Brady game?
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
What you just can't show up. You can't show up
and wing it all the time. Yes, that's what he's doing.
He's talking out of his ass and hopefully nobody will
catch it. So we got Tony Romo be Girl Raygan
the weddings on Saturdays in the Fall that Chris has
an issue with or doesn't have an issue with, but
(39:51):
hates people that have an issue with it. And then
you brought up people that can't read your your pace,
you're pacing.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I know you want me to say Romo. I do.
I know you want to say Romo.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
No, I'm actually playing for Regun today.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I think Raygun's super super annoying. Like all you have
to do, Reagan, let me teach you marketing one on
one from the Jason Stewart Doug Gottlieb School of Marketing.
Lean in not out, lean in. You would have a
career for I think it would last at least six months.
She might, even if she had any fucking brains at all.
(40:28):
Reagan would have a Super Bowl ad, a Super Bowl ad, right,
who wouldn't be sitting there on Super Bowl Sunday, Okay,
watching our Chargers take on our Packers and just see
Reygun there and everybody stops and goes ragun and laugh.
But instead you don't even understand the game that you're playing,
(40:50):
and for that reason you're anoy.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (40:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Because we can.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
That's because we can. Guys.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Cam Newton is ah so on his podcast there's always
there's a guarantee he's gonna say shit or fuck. So
he ends up in this segment a lot, but he does.
He somehow takes the holdouts for the Cowboys and turns
it into a racial thing. This is interesting.
Speaker 12 (41:20):
All efforts and energy is supposed to be towards winning.
If you're saying we're trying to do any and everything
to win, making crazy ass comments like this ain't a
winning for It in't a lot of Michael Parson's that's
walking around. It ain't a lot of CD lambs or
your roster. Let see it. I'm gonna tell you what
(41:41):
he wanted to say. Why this always happen to us
and us meaning black athletes.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, why we.
Speaker 12 (41:47):
Gotta stand on the table and be like, bro, my
work to the team is this.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Did Kirk Couzins, Yes, Kirk Cousins actually did do that.
Who's the idiot co host like Kirk Cousins. Literally, how
about this one? This is amazing thing about Kirk Cousins. Okay,
kirk Cousins was called kirt multiple times by the president
Bruce Allen of the then Washington Redskins. Just so we're aware,
(42:14):
Bruce Allen was in that position when they drafted kirk Cousins.
So did Kirk Cousins have to stand on the table
and to get paid?
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Some fucking idiots.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
God, there's so many stupid people out there, and Cam
Newton making something racial out of something that's not rachel
is that could have been your annoying You do realize
that right could have gotten in under the wire, But
instead we just played it for you because Cam newtonoys,
curses and says stupid shit because we can't. That's it
for the in the Modus podcast. Check out the radio
(42:47):
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