August 15, 2024 • 45 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:Doug talks about the return of the WNBA from the Olympics and wonders whether or not the public will stop paying attention to Caitlin Clark as the football season starts.
Doug weighs in on the Notre Dame Swimming scandal and shares his favorite college gambling story.
Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah to talk about the Falcons' trade, Chargers and all of the headlines around the NFL.
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Do you know what the greatest compliment you can give
to somebody in radio is? Okay, so I've been doing
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this for one d twenty two years overall twenty one
years on the national level, and host to my own
show for fifteen years or so, sixteen seventeen years, and
the greatest comment you can give to somebody is I
listen through a break? Right, Like, we all know that
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back Greeney still has a show right back when he
was Mike and Mike and Mike and Mike was the
biggest show in sports radio. I just be honest with you.
I don't. I don't I listen to our guys. I
don't know if his show what it is now, but
Mike Greenberg was known as the best teaser in sports radio,
maybe in radio history. He was great. And what a
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tease does is coming up next, right, And the idea
is to get you to listen through a break. Let's
make no bones about it. We make money because we
have sponsors, and the sponsors want you to listen through
a break. We don't want you to hear an ad
and then switch channels, right, So you tease ahead a tease,
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is it, like you think, make you wet your appetite.
That's whet wet your appetite for something we're going to
talk about next, for example, I'll wet your appetite. Matt Holliday,
seven time All Star, four times Silver Slugger, is going
to join us in the second hour of the show.
His son, Jackson, number one prospect in minor league baseball.
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Of course, now in the big leagues. His second stint
in the big is going much better for the I
think there's second place in the Al East, Baltimore Orioles.
We'll talk to Matt Holliday at there's one twenty five
on the West for twenty five on the East. That's
a tease. So Greenberg was the best. But the idea
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of it is getting you to listen through a break.
The greatest company you can get. I think there's actually
one is I got to where I was going and
I couldn't get out of the car until that was done.
That's that's like the great right, Like you're driving through
a rainstorm. You get home to see the wife and
the kids. You haven't seen them in two weeks, and
(03:16):
you're like, you know, what I got leaves on a
roll here or yesterday's Ian O'Connor interview, which you can
download and listen to in the podcast form. Just type
in Doug Gottleibeery type of type in podcasts. You listen
to that interview and you could not get out of
the car till it was done. That's count my number
one comt My number two was so good. I wanted
to hear what you said next coming out of the break, right,
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we would all agree, like we're all radio guys, kind
of lifers in this business. Talk you. I love, I'm
talking to you, JSTU talking to you prefet right, those
are incredible compliments. Okay, the WNBA is back, I think
at this weekend. And is the WNBA a fad or
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is it here to stay? You will know in the
next couple weeks. I guess it starts tonight. I didn't know,
but I was watching and I saw a couple of things.
Of course, the ESPN covers the whole they have the
WNBA on their coverage, right, but look, the Olympics didn't
have Caitlin Clark. Nobody really paid attention to the women,
although they almost lost in the championship game. You got
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Little League World Series, which the same genre of people. Right, women, kids,
younger families watch the Little League World Series. A lot
of them have been watching WNBA. But that's what has
women's sports has been on a meteoric rise, led by
the WNBA. Will we listen through a break? Will we
watch through a break? I think it's fascinating, fascinating, especially
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because let's just be honest, our attention is diverted with football, right,
most of you, myself included, right, my son started high
school today, my daughters we dropped. I dropped one of
my daughters off at college yesterday. We all have other
stuff going on right now and tonight there's the Philadelphia
Eagles ticket on New England Patriots on the NFL network.
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And as much you could say, who watch this preseason
football in the NFL network, the answer is a lot
more people than watch the WNBA, always, period stop, six
days a week, and of course twice on Sunday. I
think it's really interesting to me, like I'm fascinated by
things that I don't know how they will go right,
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Like in college football, I don't know how Oklahoma does
in the SEC. I'm fascinated by it. They were better
last year, but they have a demonstrative advantage, not just
in historical and recent success in the Big Twelve, but
financially they're like at one and a half to two
x of everybody else in the Big twelve next with
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the exception of Texas. Now they're in the SEC and
they're middle of the pack and everything, and they're kind
of an unknown and every week becomes a war. And
they have a new quarterback as Dylan Gabriels at Oregon,
you don't know what that's gonna be like. We don't
know what USC's gonna be like. USC's super interesting. Lincoln
Riley was on a meteoric rise when he went when
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he took over at Oklahoma, and then he leaves Oklahoma
and the first year at USC they turned the thing around.
Last year was a bit of a mess. We talked
about Clemson yesterday. I don't know what happens with Clemson.
I personally think it works. I just don't know if
it's this year. But building from within, having a high
recipitous rate, that's how many people you bring back, I
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think is the way to win in college sports, not
play the portal. Look at Colorado and what happened to
them and Colorado's instrue. I don't know the answers I wonder,
I think, but I'm interested by it. We talked about
Philadelphia tonight, right, last year, they lost Shane Steichen and
the offense completely collapsed. Yes, they were ten and zero,
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but it didn't look and feel the same. And then
it was a mess at the end of the year.
And that mess was was made more obvious by some
of the drama we've heard about this offseason. Like, I
don't know what Philadelphia looks like this year. I can't
wait to see. I can't wait to see what our
Chargers look like. Obviously you're hoping that you get your
quarterback back, but also with a legitimate head coach, with
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the legitimate head coaching experience, and everywhere Jim Harbaugh has been,
he's won it. Stan's the reason he'll win with the Chargers.
But again, it's the Chargers. They find a way to
spit up all over themselves all the time. How do
I know? I'm a Charger fan, but I don't know
about Jordan Love Right. First half of the season, eh,
second half the season really good. Now he's the highest
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paid guy in the game. Now that people have a
full book on him, what's that look like? Again, these
are things that I don't know. I'm a curious person
and a curious sports fan. Feels like the Dodgers, who
by the way, are a three to three tie with
the Milwaukee Brewers in a daytime game at American Family Field.
Feels like the Dodgers are better for the postseason. But
I'm gonna watching October just like Jay s Dou because
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Jay s Dou, you know, he's mister negative. He thinks
they're gonna lose yet again in the postseason. I think
this is the year. But again I don't know. But
tonight begins probably a two week stretch of not real
NFL games, but NFL is on not playoff games from
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Major League Baseball. But they do matter more our attentions
to spand is especially for people who watch the WNBA.
Women children, younger people right they're now into high school,
high school sports, high school football. Will we watch the
WNBA Because there's no part of me that what could
have predicted two years ago I would ever talk about
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a WNBA player or who goes on or who is
off the US women's national team. Ask yourself that had
you ever cared? Do you even? I said this before
the Olympics, and I know it to be true. They've
won what nine consecutive gold medals? Anybody know that before
they didn't have Caitlin Clark on the team, Like, well,
we won eight in a row. I don't know. I
didn't never pay attention to it, couldn't tell you one
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thing about it because nobody cared. Now we care ish
or do we care? Care? Because if we care, care,
you know what we do. We listen through a break.
We watched through a break. The ultimate sign that a
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fad is going to stick is when it gets challenged,
when there's alternatives. Does it continue to be part of
the sports discussion? My guess, by the way, is that
it does not, no matter how much we love Caitlin
Clark kind of had enough because at the end of
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the day, even the NBA can't battle with football, let
alone women's basketball. But I don't know, because I couldn't
have addicted this sort of prominence for one player rising
up a league that was really the butt of most
jokes for most of US sports fans for the last
twenty five years. I was just I'm a curious person.
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And I was curious about that today and I just
I wonder and I don't have an answer for it,
And I think that's frankly, what I'll be sort of
watching for. Yeah, I'll be sort of hunting the numbers,
if you will, and trying to figure out whether or
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Speaker 2 (10:54):
So the WNBA's season restarts tonight, but tomorrow night, Kaitlin
Clark and that her team starts, so the actual season
continues tomorrow night. When we start paying attention to this thing,
and you bring up an interesting sports talk debate, and
(11:14):
I'm going to say this, these are two worlds coiding.
This is the Kaitlin Clark phenomenon with football, And would
you be willing to give me this much that I
think it'll be somewhere in between, and that Kaitlin Clark's
audience kind of like the Olympics. She has like crossover
male and female audience. Maybe some people that aren't really
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into football are really into Kaitlin Clark. So the qating
I think won't take much of a dip. But I
guess the actual question is are you going to sacrifice
any football watching to pay attention to Kaitlyn Clark. Maybe
that's the more specific topic.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Now, I yes, that's a that's a we know the
answer to that one, right. I mean, I think you
think there's any human being who's gonna go like, you know, Eagles,
Packers are on, but I'm going to watch the w
NBA playoffs, right, I mean, is there any human being ever?
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And and then you you're like me, like, I'm not
saying there's not a single human being, but come on,
sports fans, sports fans one hundred, one hundred are going
to watch the NFL.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I think you keep saying the w n B A
And it's not that it's you think Kaitlyn Clark. It's
Kaitlyn Clark. There's not the w You're not going to
watch a Mystics Links game instead of football.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But let's go legs. You might go over to a
Kaitlin Clark games in the fourth quarter. No, no, mm hmm,
don't see it, perfet You what do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I was a lot more invested in the return of
professional soccer this weekend. I don't know if I've realized
the WNBA was coming back.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
What professional soccer MLS?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Uh No, So it's already it's it's already European European
LA Liga started is starting I think today, and then
Premier League on Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like it's yeah, that's a priority for me, okay, Ilo.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I think women's basketball in general got a bump from
last year's College Final four, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese
going into the NBA and the Olympics. That being said,
I think it'll go back down, but it'll still be
healthy enough to continue a nice line of growth. But
I think it was a bump that ends here. I'm
fascinated by it. I I I'm going to guess that
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the new TV deal is going to be a mess
for ESPN. It's gonna be a mess. So, I mean,
they didn't they they they like tripled or quadrupled the
value of it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I just.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like you said, they got a bump because you had
like literally a month lead up, but maybe a month
and a half of following Kaitlyn Clark. You know, she
sets the scoring record, that she goes to the thought
of four, she goes to the championship game, then she's
the number one pick, Then she's on TV, you know,
then she's left off the Olympic team. Then they start
playing well and there's literally nothing else going on. Nothing.
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The first thing is next year in college basketball, I
think Duke is back. There's there's now a guy to
watch and a team to watch, and his Duke and
page Bikers is She's Beckers is awesome, but like she's
not Kaitlyn Clark, and she's one person. And I don't
think anybody cares about the rest of them. They just don't.
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And I just I don't. I don't see it. I
could be wrong, but remember you had a month and
a half lead up of Caitlin Clark, maybe even two
months of Kaitlin Clark in college, which then buttressed into
the pros, and then they had the Olympic Games. They
had this whole kind of run up. Next year, you
don't have any of that. But for this year, yeah,
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I do think there's there'll be some curiosity, but a
lot of it will go away and I will have
they expanded the fan base, yes, she has for her.
Will it be some sort of dynamic thing that continues
to grow. No, And unless it continues to grow, that
TV deal is a mess. It's it's based upon additional growth,
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which I think we're hitting the set. I could be
wrong because I never thought I don't think anybody thought
that it would be as viable and as discussed as
it has been over really the past year and a half.
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(16:15):
of his goals. Yeah, well he never won NBA championship,
never been close to NBA championships, So what the hell
does he know about? You know what I mean? It's like, yeah,
I wouldn't trade my trade this for like again, unless
you know what it's actually like, you can't say what
it's actually like. Right, It's like, oh, I never would
have gone to that party were you invited? No, but
I wouldn't go if I was invited, Like really really,
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But what I want to talk about the gambling thing,
but Notre Dame, that's fascinating fasting. So if you're just
joining us and look, I get and understand, you're talking
about Notre Dame swimming right, swimming, diving like literally only
pay attention to it. Winston Olympics. So if you heard
from Isaac Glowing Crown, they're they're taking a year off
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off right, no swim team for a year, which is
interesting because this investigation. And I don't know when Notre
Dames starts school, but I'm guessing it's either this or
next week they start school, So like, are they still
on scholarship? Only they don't have they have clubs swimming,
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they have nothing. Are they allowed to get in the pool.
Is the pool closed? Like pools clothes right, kind of
like the scene of Catashact when they have the baby
Ruth that looks like a duty in the pool, right.
Like this whole thing is fascinating me. Like you show
up to school and like, hey, by the way, guys
know swimming a diving team this year? Excuse me? And
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oh yeah, by the way, I will point this out.
I don't know this firsthand. This is secondhand knowledge that
being a swimming and swimming parent is the worst. Like imagine,
I'm just telling you the worst.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Most of these people who are swimmers are loaded, like
it is definitely elitist sport, right, And I don't mean
they spend the money on the speedos. It's just it's
these are you know, taller country club kids.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Really that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They found something that get him into school. But again,
I don't know if you've been to these youth swim meets,
but there's just kids everywhere, and then you gotta wait
all day for a race and you're just sitting there
and again, forgive me, you're by a pool. Couldn't be
too terrible. But I do know places that it does exist.
My sister had her kids swam for a little bit
as well. But I just it brings to mind something
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that my buddy texted me yesterday. So yesterday I dropped
my daughter off at Oklahoma State and she's in literally
the same dorm and almost the same area of the
same wing of the dorm that I was in my
first year at OSU, and it was really cool. And
my buddy and former teammates Scott Robish, who played Oaklahma
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State and then he transferred to Butler, asked if there
was still casino night at the at at Bennett Hall,
and then we were going back and forth about it,
and he's like, yeah, you could. You always remember Casino
night was after everybody got their scholarship check and some
dudes got their Pelgran check and then it was it
was on right and there was always one room where
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it was on and you walk in, and the way
those rooms work at this particular dormitory was there were
some singles down below in on the first floor, but
the rest of them were you know, you get like
three rooms they all have their own bathroom, or two
rooms they have their own bathroom, and then there's a
main room and nothing went on in the main room
which is super weird right now. If you think about
it like now as an adult, you'd like, whoa, they're
a little kitchenette there. It'd be really cool. But regardless
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of which, the one room in which there was something
going on in the little kind of gathering room was
one of our teammates rooms. Where again, like when it
was Christmas time and no one's around and we got
our scholarship check and we get our yellow per diem
as well, like it would be on and again college campuses.
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Everybody knows a bookie on college campuses, right like cal
State Fullerton, which it was more of a commuter school,
it's less of community school. Now, you had to know
a bookie when you're there, correct, of.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Course, No, of course, if you didn't know a bookie,
you knew someone who could hook you up with a bookie.
And then that person in the middle is probably taking
your bets and not calling him into the bookie prophet.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
When you were at wake was there, did you know
a bookie right away?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Not really, can't say I was. You didn't see gambling
on a college campus. My friends definitely gambled. I was,
I was. I was kind of a bit nerdy and
just kind of working on my working my ass off
at the time. That's not surprising to be a little
bit nerdy. I'm just so humble, bruh, working too hard.
I was working too hard. It was just that was hard.
I thought, somehow you bring it back to Detroit. That's
what I thought you would somehow.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Do uh?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I know what about you?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I was totally sheltered when I was in college, but
many years after the fact, I started putting two and
two together about various things that I saw.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Let's bit of that way. Okay, for people who haven't
heard the story explained, So they had they bet on
themselves against themselves. Other people like how did how did it? Again?
I know this is kind of initial reports that we're reading,
but Notre Dame has has paused their swimming program, and
I don't know that swimming and diving. Do they have diving?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
No, no, no, no, it's just men's swimming, men's diving,
and women's swimming and diving are completely unaffected.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay, so men's swimming, So they were what does the
reports say they were doing?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
They essentially created their own sports book. These details reported
by Pat Forty of si Dot and by the.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Way, Pat has a daughter that swims, Yes, at Yeah, At,
I don't remember. I'll look it up. It's a big
time program.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Pat.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And for people who know Pat forty right, he's covered
college sports forever and he veered into covering swimming because
his kids swim. Maybe kids swim Missouri where he went,
I can't remember. But anyway, okay, so what was the well,
were they been on an NFL We've been in college.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
No, they were betting on themselves because, as he points out,
there are no gambling companies that take wagers or have
lines on college swimming. It's not exactly your big gambling sport.
So they did it themselves. They did over underlines, they
placed wagers on the outcomes, and part of the suspension
it was for gambling, but also for cultural issues. And
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forty reports that there was a troubling group text that
was very inappropriate that was found during the investigation. Notre
Dame also said that the coaching staff was not aware
at all of the scope of the gambling or any
of the other behaviors because quote, team members effectively concealed
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such behaviors from the coaches and staff through concerted efforts unquote,
So the coaching staff did not have a part of
this at all and legit detely no knowledge of it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I will point out that, I mean, I just again,
I don't think there's if there's something like racially divisive
or negative like in the text like doesn't shouldn't exist.
But again, and there's out there's a line there, and
everybody knows up when you've totally crossed the line. College
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dudes and text like yeah again, I'm not giving anybody
pass because I haven't read them. I just know that
anyone who has been around eighteen to twenty two year
old dudes know that you have a tendency to say
lots of things. My fifteen year old's done something to
me the other day where I nearly like I literally
did pull off the through and like, what, my bad,
(23:47):
I didn't mean to say that, right, Okay, can I
give you guys my best gambling story from college? Oh yeah, okay.
The NCAA is listening, by the way, welcome whatever I think,
statue limitations, whatever. So my backcourt mate, former All American
dear friend, Joe Atkins, there are lots of things that
(24:09):
you want to do with him. You want to play
basketball him because he wins, and he's got that level
of confidence bordering arrogance.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He's also a guy that is brilliant on a very
like For example, he got back from playing in Russia
his second year playing professional basketball, and whereas when I
played in Russia, I bought a house, he bought what's
it called machines, vending machines in Oklahoma City, and I
(24:37):
was like, why did you do this? Like, dude, cash money?
You just so That's when in the off season what
he would do was he'd go and he'd work his
own vending machines, go and pick it up, and it's
always he still has them. It makes money doing that, right,
brilliant dude from a just a real standpoint. But he's
also never shoot dice with them. I don't know what
he does to him and don't play cards with him
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because he's just good good. I don't know how he
does it. So we had a guy named Mike Johnson
shout out Mike j who was came for a little
bit of money. He's now I believe, works with his
dad in commercial real estate in Kansas City. He transferred.
We were roommates his second year there. My second year there,
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for half a semester. Then he transferred to William Mary
had a really good career and but Mike J was
like our whale, right, like no disrespect, but no one
felt bad. We he took money off Mike J because
he could just call his dad and get None of
us had money like Mike J. His dad had some money. So,
like I said, Casino Knight, there was two different casino Knights.
We had a manager who had a house and in
(25:42):
their garage they had a craps table at a blackjack
table they had I can't remember what else they they had.
They had one more format. I think they had a
poker table as well. Maybe it might have been roulette. Yeah,
you going there. It was like a little legit casino.
And then the kind of kind of old school casino
night would be at Bennett Hall and Christmas right around
(26:05):
Christmas Break nineteen ninety seven is a long time ago.
I walked in on casino Night and I walk in
and there is a lot of cash in there. And
remember this is a lot of cash for college kids, right,
like two hundred and fifty bucks. And there's also a
Sony Discman. Do you guys remember Sony Diskman? Profet. You're
(26:26):
not old enough, you probably don't remember. No, I had
a discman, okay, oh you did, Yeah, yeah, I had
a CD man. Okay, so a Sony Discman, which at
the time that was as valuable then as an iPhone
is now. And then I walked in. There's also a
bike lock in there, like, what are you guys playing?
So they're playing ac doucy between the sheets over under?
Do you guys know that? Know that game? Very very
(26:48):
simple game, right? You have two cards on the outside
and you're betting that the card that's drawn is going
to be below those two. So if it's King Ace,
you always bet the pot. You always bet the pot,
and unless the next card over is a King or
an Ace, you take home the pot. If you if
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King and Ace and you bet pot and it's a
King or an Ace, you have to match the pot.
When you're out of money, you have to come up
with some collateral. And the collateral in this particular case
was a Sony Discman, and it ended up being Mike
Johnson's Mountain bike. So but I forgive me, I digress.
We go back. When I walked in, there was asking
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just the disc man in there, and Mike J is
up and he says pot to King Ace. He's talking.
He was a big trash talker. He's already counting his money.
He's looking at the pot. He's counting how much it is.
There's a whole build up. There's like ten guys in
the room. Yes, we were drinking at the time, probably
smoking some black and Miles as well. And King flips
(27:57):
over and dudes go crazy when, like Mike J, you've
got to match the pot. And the pot at that
point was probably five hundred bucks if you count the
sony disc man the two hundred fifty bucks whatever else
is in there. So we came up with the bike.
So he puts the bike clock. So then he's hopeful
that we can go around the room to where he
gets another opportunity to bet pot to get his bike back.
He didn't. Who got the bike? Joe Atkins got the bike.
(28:21):
Fast forward to the next day and what our coach
would do, the late great Hall of Famer Eddie Sutton
would do, is we'd Oftentie practice in the morning, Like,
why are you practice in the morning. We don't have to.
You have the gym all day, right, No one else
is around campus he would do it. So we couldn't
stay up all night because you can't pray. He can't
was he can't fly with the eagles. He hoot with
the owls. So practice at nine o'clock the next day.
(28:42):
Everyone has the rule. You got to be on the
court fifteen minutes before, usually sometimes thirty minutes before. You
got to be taped, fifteen minutes before, you got to
be shooting warmed up. So when we blow the whistle
of practice, is ready to go. Eight forty five everyone's there.
No Joe Akins. Eight fifty everyone's there, No Joeackins eight
fifty seven. W Atkins kicks in the door to the arena,
(29:03):
comes pedaling in onto his newly earned bicycle, parks at
mid court, locks it, and then starts shooting around, at
which point everybody's dying laughing. The coaches are even laughing.
They don't even know what it's about. We tell them,
like Ac Doocy got Mike Jay until he lost his bike.
(29:26):
That's my best gambling story. That's what I got for you.
That's a good one. That's right, that's a great one.
Just the build up of where is Joe? Where is
Joe when he comes riding in on a bicycle and
then locks it at mid court. He unlocked it and
moved it and we had ourselves in practice. That's amazing though,
that the swimming team. I would love to know how
they found out. I would, I would, I mean, I'd
(29:46):
love to know how it skewed the results. What those
guys are doing all year, right, how many of them?
They can't leave? You can't transfer at this point time.
Plus it's Notre Dame like you're going there for the
school for the be part of the you know, be
part to the subway alums. I bet it was some
petty thing that happened. So if you have all these
people in on it, all it takes is one person
(30:09):
in the group to be alienated. So if you like
make fun of like the towerp on the swim team,
he's like, Okay, I'll go to compliance about this little
gambling thing you had and we'll see. We'll see who's
laughing at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
You know, So you're saying he leaked the info about
their gambling pool.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
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Daniel Jeremiah. Of course, he's the NFL analyst Coast to
(31:31):
Move the Sticks as a podcast next April, he'll be
the as he always is the guy with the NFL
Network getting ready for the NFL Draft, which will be
in my new hometown of Green Bay, Wisconsin. And of
course he calls La Charger games for our sister station
here in Los Angeles. Daniel Jeremiah joins us on the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Foxsports Radio. What are your thoughts
(31:54):
on Matthew Judon being traded from the Patriots to the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I thought it made a lot of sense both sides.
I mean, the Falcons have been searching for pass rush.
It seems like forever every year, you know, doing the draft,
I sit on the desk and go, okay, they have
to take a pass rusher and they usually take another
offensive skill player, and it's been that way for a while.
They haven't been able to get that solved. So you
get a guy that's very proven, obviously on the back
(32:21):
end of his career, but still someone who's productive as
a pass rusher. So it makes sense for Atlanta. Definitely
a need for them. And then with the Patriots, Doug,
I mean I was talking about this with somebody of
the day. I think this is probably one of the
three worst rosters in the NFL. At this point in time,
their window is not open. It's probably two years away
from being open. So to rob young guys of reps
(32:45):
to give them to players who aren't going to be
a part of your team when you're any good doesn't
make a lot of sense. So that's why I think
it kind of makes sense for everyone involved here.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Okay, what do you think of the Falcons this year?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
I think they should be pretty good.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
You know, I look I Tampa is one that the
more that I look at Tampa, I feel like they
get overlooked. And I still I think if I had
to pick right now, I would pick Tampa to win
that division. But I think the Falcons have a real
shot of being there. I think they have a shot
of being a playoff team. We know about the you know,
they've got a solid offensive line, They've got plenty of
(33:24):
skilled talent, and they've just needed steady quarterback to play.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Those are two issues.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Was quarterback playing pass rush secondary is pretty good, actually
really good, so to go out in this offseason now,
I feel like they've they've done some things to show
up their their big question marks. And then and the
hill is not, you know, not the highest still to
climb inside that division.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That division is so weird, right, I mean.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
It's just has been.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
It's been weird for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah. But there was a time, I don't know, five
six years ago, it was a like a like an
elite division in football, right, and it was a new team.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Would win it every year.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Every year a different team win.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah. And then and then all of a sudden, Tampa
wins Zuper Bowl and the whole division collapses, just collapses
really like fast, like fascinating, fascinating stuff. I know you're
close to Joe Douglas, you made no secrets of that.
Explain how this is san Redick thing is happening, right,
because again and this is just what I've read you
know a lot more, which is they made the trade
(34:22):
for Redick, who won a new contract. But again this
is per reports, he had told them like I want
to play on the old contract and then get a
new contract after the year, and then now he wants
new contract. Is that what happened?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You know, I have not talked to.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Joe since the draft, so I have not had any
conversations with him at all about this.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
But the.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Clearly if some wires got crossed, you know, I don't
know how else to explain it. There's really just kind
of a couple of scenarios where, you know, one they
you have a situation where the player has said he'd
be willing to play on something, or his agent has
said he'd be wanting to play on the current contract,
and and then that wasn't true, or it was the
team that made a big promise and then didn't offer
(35:06):
a fair contract. That's the other scenario. And then the
third one would be, you know, it could be a
situation where the you have ownership that gets involved and says,
you know, hey, this is no I'm not doing that.
I don't want to. I don't want to, you know,
write that check for this for this player. So there's
a lot of different options in scenarios that exists out there.
I haven't heard concrete wise what you know, what the
(35:28):
deal is, but man, it's a talk about a huge
blow to the team when you allow Bryce Huff to leave.
You know, even though you've got Will McDonald, a young
first round pick that I know is a talented player,
you got Jermaine Johnson, but man, you swapped out Huff
for Hassan Reddick with the hopes that you know you
you at least were as good, if not better, in
(35:49):
that spot, and now you've.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Gotten neither on a team that's really kind of an
all in push.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
So it's a it's a it's a bad spot, no question.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
When you say all in, that thinks just to the
Dallas Cowboys, Right. So, Okay, you have Ceedee Lamb, who
you know still has a year left obviously on his contract.
You got Micah Parsons who badly wants to get a
new contract. You have Dak Prescott in the last year
of his deal, but it's a massive, massive cap hit,
(36:19):
but they don't seem to want to redo it, you know,
kind of a prove it sort of sort of year.
What's your sense of how this goes down? Because Jerry
has never I mean, emmittt was the last guy he
threatened to not pay and it lasted a couple of
games and then ultimately he paid him. But generally Jerry
generally relents and pays his guys. What do you think
happens here?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I think Ceedee Lamb is paid. You know, that would
be shocking to me if that didn't get done, you know,
just to me. I don't know. I was up there
at training camp.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I talked with Dak Prescott and we had him on
the air and talked him a little bit before. He
seemed totally at piece with whatever happens, Like I didn't
think he was, you know, he was itching to get
a deal, died. I think he almost would like to
get out there on the market and see what happens.
I don't, you know, I'll be honest, I don't see
him there long term with the Cowboys. And then you know,
(37:10):
we'll see what happens with Micah Parsons. You know, do
they do they pay him or do they or do
they try and use him as a ship to go
out and get a zillion fixed and try and find
their their next quarterback. I don't know how to make
sense of.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Everything that's going on there.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
It doesn't really make a lot of sense. And the
whole all in thing, I mean, goodness, gracious, they're they're
like they're it's the opposite of all in. Like they
they've orderline folded their hand at this point in time,
like they got to get at least one of these
things done, which is why I'd be shocked if they
don't get seedee Lamb done. You can't roll into the
season without him.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Daniel Jeremiah moved the Sticks podcast and you see him
in the NFL Network and of course he calls Charger
games for living. Joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports, Rady quickly on the Chargers likelihood Justin
Herbert's back for week one.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
You know, I I sure hope. So you know, Harbaugh
is not going to talk about injuries, not going to
get into any specifics there. You're not gonna get anything
out of him. So until they have to put out
an official injury report week one, I think we're all
just kind of uh guessing in that situation. But man,
they they sure do need him. That was evident in
the first preseason game. Uh, there's a there's a chance
(38:21):
to have a really good offensive line there. They didn't
have their backs playing. I think they'll be fine in
the backfield. But man, it's a it's a big difference
when you go from Justin Herbert to East and Stick.
It's no no knock on East and it's just that's
that's a totally different, totally different animal. So uh, he
has to uh, he has to be out there on
the field for them. To to not only you know,
try and win, but to be really competitive offensively.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Does the offense work with Justin Herbert? I think so.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
I think it will.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I think that, you know, again, the offensive line is good.
You'll see him use the tight ends. It's gonna look different.
It's gonna look different. I mean, I think they'll be
They'll pick their spots on those days where they want
to uh, where they want to chuck it, you know,
forty times a game, but I think those will be, uh,
those will be few and far between. I think you're
gonna see a lot more of it of you know, hey,
trying to take some of that off of his point,
(39:10):
and I think that will work.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
We've discussed this before, but you, me and Cowherd were
like the three last remaining stockholders in Sam donoald LLC. Right,
we're like still got it, still got my stock hey,
and all you want. It's not just a chance, but
it's a system that he knows because essentially some hybridized
version of San Francisco which he had been in. Right,
(39:34):
you have Addison and Justin Jefferson, and you know you
got Aaron Jones as well, So you got a good back.
You got really good wide receivers, you're playing for a
coach who's a former quarterback, like you're playing indoors, like
all of this stuff all right, How you feel? How
are we feeling about our stock?
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Well, it's alive, right, I've got some that have been
taken off the off the market, so.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
That one at least is still alive.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
And you know, so I Ain got hurt the other day.
I know Howkinson's beat up. So not like he's going
in there, you know, fully armed with all their their
all their pieces in place. But I think one of
the things that they have there that he's going to
really appreciate is they they've got a good offensive line.
Like Christian Derrisa is one of the best left tackles.
I don't know if people know much about him, but he.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Is really really good.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
So they've got they've got a good offensive line. You
mentioned all the other pieces they have around and playing indoors,
and I think the other thing, you know, I don't
know that anybody would admit it there, but it's just
human nature. The fact that you have a first round
quarterback that is out for the year and not having
to look over your shoulder after an interception, you know,
or a bad game. I mean, Sam's got this is
(40:42):
a long runway for him here and a good opportunity.
So I'm optimistic for him because, you know, not not
because of the great I gave him coming out, but
just getting to know him.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
He's a good dude. Everybody that's ever played.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
With him really likes the guy. So this is it, man,
This is everything set up for him, and this is
a career defining year for him.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Daniel Jeremiah Jonius and the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Trader same division. Look, everybody loves Jordan Love, and
I don't want to think that the contract was an
overreaction to you know, hey, we were right and everybody
who said letting Aaron go, anybody said Aaron letting Airon
go was wrong. Whatever, And obviously Aaron getting hurt kind
of helped to help that as well. But there was
a good portion last year when he's okay, and it's
(41:25):
only one year, right, Like usually you got to do
it for a couple of years before you get that
that sort of payday. How committed are you to Jordan
Love being anywhere near the value of his contract.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I think there's still I think you're a fair and
saying hey, there's you know, there's still a little bit
of wait and see there. I think the reason why
he got paid is a combination of the things. He
obviously the small sample size, right, but I think the
small sample size combined with the you know, just the
tools and the traits that you knew he had coming
out of college like that were undeniable in terms of
(42:03):
the talent. So I think when you have your long
on talent, you're short on experience and production. But I
think when you kind of put those two things together,
I think it makes it a little bit more of
a reasonable gamble that they that they were going to
take on him with the number. I was still surprised
at anyone that they got as high as they did.
Hats off to Jordan Love and his representatives to get that,
(42:24):
because I did not think he would get to that number.
But I think that's behind the decision making there in
Green Bay. Is that okay, not just like this isn't
you know Nick Mullen's going out there and having a
good five run, five game, stretch your gardner Minshew having
a good you know, seven eight games like this is
someone who has big time, big time ability and talent
and upside, and now we combine that with what we've seen,
(42:46):
even though it's a small sample size. I think that's
why they were willing to make that move.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You always want to jam in Padre's talk and usually
doesn't work like best.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Do you know what happened last time we talked?
Speaker 6 (42:58):
By the way, No, the Olympics basketball game with.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
And so I wasn't paying I wasn't paying attention at
all to what you were saying. Was it that what happened?
Speaker 5 (43:06):
So it was the Olympics, The hoops were going on,
and so you you're obviously you're hoops gay, so your.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Mind is in hoops mode.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
I mean, I'm glad we won the gold medal, but
I don't care. I don't, So I hold hold on you.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
You do love hoops? Have you ever seen anything like again,
like honest question, Oh yeah, okay, so one possession game,
like the house is on fire and the guy hits
four straight threes including the last one, is just ridiculous.
Do you ever see anything like that?
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Not that I can remember, in that pressure of a
pressure of a moment. I've seen enough Warrior games over
the years to seen him get on hot streaks and
Clay Clay's had some crazy hot streaks as well, but
not in that high pressure moment like that game. But
I was aware of.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
That game, Doug.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I mean I had it on, but I was just
making a Padres throwaway comment that game was coming down
to the wire.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
But I'm sorry. I was like, like, listen, how when
I do my show in my office at Green Bay, Okay,
I have my whole radio set up, a camera in
front of me, I got, I got various monitors, and
then I have this gigantic thank you to Sundance Wicks
who left me this gigantic TV that I moved from
the side to like right in front of me so
I can watch film and watch games. And I'm literally
(44:18):
like talking to you and trying to lock in on
the monitor and listen to you. But I I was
struggling because I'm watching USA Hoopston was unbelievable, So I
owe you that apology. But we're playing Serbia. It was
amazing anyway.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
But here was the line though. Here was the line though,
I said, Doug, we're only two and a half man
two and a half, meaning the pods are only two
and a half back and you said, I know, this
is an amazing game, and I'll go with Doug.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
How can you be up two and a half points
in the basketball game?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Come on, man, I missed it. I apologize, dude. I mean, like,
listen me, you got to call me out for not
paying attention to a conversation.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Man, we're gonna run the Dodgers down. Like this is
good for America.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
This is great, Uh, Dodgers. Dodgers done pretty well here
against the Brewers. I mean that's a pretty pretty tough
level of competition. What's changed with your pods? Uh?
Speaker 5 (45:06):
They all get along really really well. The chemistry is great,
and they've nailed all of the glue picks, like all
of the veteran guys, Peralta, Solano Wade, like all these guys.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
They've they've got superstars. They've had superstars, but.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
They got the right glue pieces. So it's fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
It is fun to watch. Well, listen, if they play
the Brewers in the playoffs, since a weekday game, you're
not doing your tell me like, we'll go and the
Brewers guys been awesome. And I mean, you know, Pat Murphy,
Murphy is fantastic dude, like, let's legit come to m
k E and we'll go to a playoff game. If
the pods play the play the brewker, I'm in.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Every buddy man it appreciate joining us.
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this for one d twenty two years overall twenty one
years on the national level, and host to my own
show for fifteen years or so, sixteen seventeen years, and
the greatest comment you can give to somebody is I
listen through a break? Right, Like, we all know that
(01:30):
back Greeney still has a show right back when he
was Mike and Mike and Mike and Mike was the
biggest show in sports radio. I just be honest with you.
I don't. I don't I listen to our guys. I
don't know if his show what it is now, but
Mike Greenberg was known as the best teaser in sports radio,
maybe in radio history. He was great. And what a
(01:52):
tease does is coming up next, right, And the idea
is to get you to listen through a break. Let's
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and then switch channels, right, So you tease ahead a tease,
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We'll talk to Matt Holliday at there's one twenty five
on the West for twenty five on the East. That's
a tease. So Greenberg was the best. But the idea
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of it is getting you to listen through a break.
The greatest company you can get. I think there's actually
one is I got to where I was going and
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That's that's like the great right, Like you're driving through
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we would all agree, like we're all radio guys, kind
of lifers in this business. Talk you. I love, I'm
talking to you, JSTU talking to you prefet right, those
are incredible compliments. Okay, the WNBA is back, I think
at this weekend. And is the WNBA a fad or
(04:01):
is it here to stay? You will know in the
next couple weeks. I guess it starts tonight. I didn't know,
but I was watching and I saw a couple of things.
Of course, the ESPN covers the whole they have the
WNBA on their coverage, right, but look, the Olympics didn't
have Caitlin Clark. Nobody really paid attention to the women,
although they almost lost in the championship game. You got
(04:25):
Little League World Series, which the same genre of people. Right, women, kids,
younger families watch the Little League World Series. A lot
of them have been watching WNBA. But that's what has
women's sports has been on a meteoric rise, led by
the WNBA. Will we listen through a break? Will we
watch through a break? I think it's fascinating, fascinating, especially
(04:49):
because let's just be honest, our attention is diverted with football, right,
most of you, myself included, right, my son started high
school today, my daughters we dropped. I dropped one of
my daughters off at college yesterday. We all have other
stuff going on right now and tonight there's the Philadelphia
Eagles ticket on New England Patriots on the NFL network.
(05:12):
And as much you could say, who watch this preseason
football in the NFL network, the answer is a lot
more people than watch the WNBA, always, period stop, six
days a week, and of course twice on Sunday. I
think it's really interesting to me, like I'm fascinated by
things that I don't know how they will go right,
(05:34):
Like in college football, I don't know how Oklahoma does
in the SEC. I'm fascinated by it. They were better
last year, but they have a demonstrative advantage, not just
in historical and recent success in the Big Twelve, but
financially they're like at one and a half to two
x of everybody else in the Big twelve next with
(05:54):
the exception of Texas. Now they're in the SEC and
they're middle of the pack and everything, and they're kind
of an unknown and every week becomes a war. And
they have a new quarterback as Dylan Gabriels at Oregon,
you don't know what that's gonna be like. We don't
know what USC's gonna be like. USC's super interesting. Lincoln
Riley was on a meteoric rise when he went when
(06:15):
he took over at Oklahoma, and then he leaves Oklahoma
and the first year at USC they turned the thing around.
Last year was a bit of a mess. We talked
about Clemson yesterday. I don't know what happens with Clemson.
I personally think it works. I just don't know if
it's this year. But building from within, having a high
recipitous rate, that's how many people you bring back, I
(06:36):
think is the way to win in college sports, not
play the portal. Look at Colorado and what happened to
them and Colorado's instrue. I don't know the answers I wonder,
I think, but I'm interested by it. We talked about
Philadelphia tonight, right, last year, they lost Shane Steichen and
the offense completely collapsed. Yes, they were ten and zero,
(06:57):
but it didn't look and feel the same. And then
it was a mess at the end of the year.
And that mess was was made more obvious by some
of the drama we've heard about this offseason. Like, I
don't know what Philadelphia looks like this year. I can't
wait to see. I can't wait to see what our
Chargers look like. Obviously you're hoping that you get your
quarterback back, but also with a legitimate head coach, with
(07:18):
the legitimate head coaching experience, and everywhere Jim Harbaugh has been,
he's won it. Stan's the reason he'll win with the Chargers.
But again, it's the Chargers. They find a way to
spit up all over themselves all the time. How do
I know? I'm a Charger fan, but I don't know
about Jordan Love Right. First half of the season, eh,
second half the season really good. Now he's the highest
(07:40):
paid guy in the game. Now that people have a
full book on him, what's that look like? Again, these
are things that I don't know. I'm a curious person
and a curious sports fan. Feels like the Dodgers, who
by the way, are a three to three tie with
the Milwaukee Brewers in a daytime game at American Family Field.
Feels like the Dodgers are better for the postseason. But
I'm gonna watching October just like Jay s Dou because
(08:02):
Jay s Dou, you know, he's mister negative. He thinks
they're gonna lose yet again in the postseason. I think
this is the year. But again I don't know. But
tonight begins probably a two week stretch of not real
NFL games, but NFL is on not playoff games from
(08:22):
Major League Baseball. But they do matter more our attentions
to spand is especially for people who watch the WNBA.
Women children, younger people right they're now into high school,
high school sports, high school football. Will we watch the
WNBA Because there's no part of me that what could
have predicted two years ago I would ever talk about
(08:45):
a WNBA player or who goes on or who is
off the US women's national team. Ask yourself that had
you ever cared? Do you even? I said this before
the Olympics, and I know it to be true. They've
won what nine consecutive gold medals? Anybody know that before
they didn't have Caitlin Clark on the team, Like, well,
we won eight in a row. I don't know. I
didn't never pay attention to it, couldn't tell you one
(09:06):
thing about it because nobody cared. Now we care ish
or do we care? Care? Because if we care, care,
you know what we do. We listen through a break.
We watched through a break. The ultimate sign that a
(09:30):
fad is going to stick is when it gets challenged,
when there's alternatives. Does it continue to be part of
the sports discussion? My guess, by the way, is that
it does not, no matter how much we love Caitlin
Clark kind of had enough because at the end of
(09:51):
the day, even the NBA can't battle with football, let
alone women's basketball. But I don't know, because I couldn't
have addicted this sort of prominence for one player rising
up a league that was really the butt of most
jokes for most of US sports fans for the last
twenty five years. I was just I'm a curious person.
(10:13):
And I was curious about that today and I just
I wonder and I don't have an answer for it,
And I think that's frankly, what I'll be sort of
watching for. Yeah, I'll be sort of hunting the numbers,
if you will, and trying to figure out whether or
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one point to make about this.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So the WNBA's season restarts tonight, but tomorrow night, Kaitlin
Clark and that her team starts, so the actual season
continues tomorrow night. When we start paying attention to this thing,
and you bring up an interesting sports talk debate, and
(11:14):
I'm going to say this, these are two worlds coiding.
This is the Kaitlin Clark phenomenon with football, And would
you be willing to give me this much that I
think it'll be somewhere in between, and that Kaitlin Clark's
audience kind of like the Olympics. She has like crossover
male and female audience. Maybe some people that aren't really
(11:36):
into football are really into Kaitlin Clark. So the qating
I think won't take much of a dip. But I
guess the actual question is are you going to sacrifice
any football watching to pay attention to Kaitlyn Clark. Maybe
that's the more specific topic.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Now, I yes, that's a that's a we know the
answer to that one, right. I mean, I think you
think there's any human being who's gonna go like, you know, Eagles,
Packers are on, but I'm going to watch the w
NBA playoffs, right, I mean, is there any human being ever?
(12:17):
And and then you you're like me, like, I'm not
saying there's not a single human being, but come on,
sports fans, sports fans one hundred, one hundred are going
to watch the NFL.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I think you keep saying the w n B A
And it's not that it's you think Kaitlyn Clark. It's
Kaitlyn Clark. There's not the w You're not going to
watch a Mystics Links game instead of football.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But let's go legs. You might go over to a
Kaitlin Clark games in the fourth quarter. No, no, mm hmm,
don't see it, perfet You what do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I was a lot more invested in the return of
professional soccer this weekend. I don't know if I've realized
the WNBA was coming back.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
What professional soccer MLS?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Uh No, So it's already it's it's already European European
LA Liga started is starting I think today, and then
Premier League on Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like it's yeah, that's a priority for me, okay, Ilo.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I think women's basketball in general got a bump from
last year's College Final four, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese
going into the NBA and the Olympics. That being said,
I think it'll go back down, but it'll still be
healthy enough to continue a nice line of growth. But
I think it was a bump that ends here. I'm
fascinated by it. I I I'm going to guess that
(13:45):
the new TV deal is going to be a mess
for ESPN. It's gonna be a mess. So, I mean,
they didn't they they they like tripled or quadrupled the
value of it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I just.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like you said, they got a bump because you had
like literally a month lead up, but maybe a month
and a half of following Kaitlyn Clark. You know, she
sets the scoring record, that she goes to the thought
of four, she goes to the championship game, then she's
the number one pick, Then she's on TV, you know,
then she's left off the Olympic team. Then they start
playing well and there's literally nothing else going on. Nothing.
(14:21):
The first thing is next year in college basketball, I
think Duke is back. There's there's now a guy to
watch and a team to watch, and his Duke and
page Bikers is She's Beckers is awesome, but like she's
not Kaitlyn Clark, and she's one person. And I don't
think anybody cares about the rest of them. They just don't.
(14:46):
And I just I don't. I don't see it. I
could be wrong, but remember you had a month and
a half lead up of Caitlin Clark, maybe even two
months of Kaitlin Clark in college, which then buttressed into
the pros, and then they had the Olympic Games. They
had this whole kind of run up. Next year, you
don't have any of that. But for this year, yeah,
(15:08):
I do think there's there'll be some curiosity, but a
lot of it will go away and I will have
they expanded the fan base, yes, she has for her.
Will it be some sort of dynamic thing that continues
to grow. No, And unless it continues to grow, that
TV deal is a mess. It's it's based upon additional growth,
(15:31):
which I think we're hitting the set. I could be
wrong because I never thought I don't think anybody thought
that it would be as viable and as discussed as
it has been over really the past year and a half.
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(16:15):
of his goals. Yeah, well he never won NBA championship,
never been close to NBA championships, So what the hell
does he know about? You know what I mean? It's like, yeah,
I wouldn't trade my trade this for like again, unless
you know what it's actually like, you can't say what
it's actually like. Right, It's like, oh, I never would
have gone to that party were you invited? No, but
I wouldn't go if I was invited, Like really really,
(16:39):
But what I want to talk about the gambling thing,
but Notre Dame, that's fascinating fasting. So if you're just
joining us and look, I get and understand, you're talking
about Notre Dame swimming right, swimming, diving like literally only
pay attention to it. Winston Olympics. So if you heard
from Isaac Glowing Crown, they're they're taking a year off
(17:00):
off right, no swim team for a year, which is
interesting because this investigation. And I don't know when Notre
Dames starts school, but I'm guessing it's either this or
next week they start school, So like, are they still
on scholarship? Only they don't have they have clubs swimming,
(17:20):
they have nothing. Are they allowed to get in the pool.
Is the pool closed? Like pools clothes right, kind of
like the scene of Catashact when they have the baby
Ruth that looks like a duty in the pool, right.
Like this whole thing is fascinating me. Like you show
up to school and like, hey, by the way, guys
know swimming a diving team this year? Excuse me? And
(17:42):
oh yeah, by the way, I will point this out.
I don't know this firsthand. This is secondhand knowledge that
being a swimming and swimming parent is the worst. Like imagine,
I'm just telling you the worst.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Most of these people who are swimmers are loaded, like
it is definitely elitist sport, right, And I don't mean
they spend the money on the speedos. It's just it's
these are you know, taller country club kids.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Really that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They found something that get him into school. But again,
I don't know if you've been to these youth swim meets,
but there's just kids everywhere, and then you gotta wait
all day for a race and you're just sitting there
and again, forgive me, you're by a pool. Couldn't be
too terrible. But I do know places that it does exist.
My sister had her kids swam for a little bit
as well. But I just it brings to mind something
(18:33):
that my buddy texted me yesterday. So yesterday I dropped
my daughter off at Oklahoma State and she's in literally
the same dorm and almost the same area of the
same wing of the dorm that I was in my
first year at OSU, and it was really cool. And
my buddy and former teammates Scott Robish, who played Oaklahma
(18:57):
State and then he transferred to Butler, asked if there
was still casino night at the at at Bennett Hall,
and then we were going back and forth about it,
and he's like, yeah, you could. You always remember Casino
night was after everybody got their scholarship check and some
dudes got their Pelgran check and then it was it
was on right and there was always one room where
(19:19):
it was on and you walk in, and the way
those rooms work at this particular dormitory was there were
some singles down below in on the first floor, but
the rest of them were you know, you get like
three rooms they all have their own bathroom, or two
rooms they have their own bathroom, and then there's a
main room and nothing went on in the main room
which is super weird right now. If you think about
it like now as an adult, you'd like, whoa, they're
a little kitchenette there. It'd be really cool. But regardless
(19:41):
of which, the one room in which there was something
going on in the little kind of gathering room was
one of our teammates rooms. Where again, like when it
was Christmas time and no one's around and we got
our scholarship check and we get our yellow per diem
as well, like it would be on and again college campuses.
(20:02):
Everybody knows a bookie on college campuses, right like cal
State Fullerton, which it was more of a commuter school,
it's less of community school. Now, you had to know
a bookie when you're there, correct, of.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Course, No, of course, if you didn't know a bookie,
you knew someone who could hook you up with a bookie.
And then that person in the middle is probably taking
your bets and not calling him into the bookie prophet.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
When you were at wake was there, did you know
a bookie right away?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Not really, can't say I was. You didn't see gambling
on a college campus. My friends definitely gambled. I was,
I was. I was kind of a bit nerdy and
just kind of working on my working my ass off
at the time. That's not surprising to be a little
bit nerdy. I'm just so humble, bruh, working too hard.
I was working too hard. It was just that was hard.
I thought, somehow you bring it back to Detroit. That's
what I thought you would somehow.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Do uh?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I know what about you?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I was totally sheltered when I was in college, but
many years after the fact, I started putting two and
two together about various things that I saw.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Let's bit of that way. Okay, for people who haven't
heard the story explained, So they had they bet on
themselves against themselves. Other people like how did how did it? Again?
I know this is kind of initial reports that we're reading,
but Notre Dame has has paused their swimming program, and
I don't know that swimming and diving. Do they have diving?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
No, no, no, no, it's just men's swimming, men's diving,
and women's swimming and diving are completely unaffected.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay, so men's swimming, So they were what does the
reports say they were doing?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
They essentially created their own sports book. These details reported
by Pat Forty of si Dot and by the.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Way, Pat has a daughter that swims, Yes, at Yeah, At,
I don't remember. I'll look it up. It's a big
time program.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Pat.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And for people who know Pat forty right, he's covered
college sports forever and he veered into covering swimming because
his kids swim. Maybe kids swim Missouri where he went,
I can't remember. But anyway, okay, so what was the well,
were they been on an NFL We've been in college.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
No, they were betting on themselves because, as he points out,
there are no gambling companies that take wagers or have
lines on college swimming. It's not exactly your big gambling sport.
So they did it themselves. They did over underlines, they
placed wagers on the outcomes, and part of the suspension
it was for gambling, but also for cultural issues. And
(22:30):
forty reports that there was a troubling group text that
was very inappropriate that was found during the investigation. Notre
Dame also said that the coaching staff was not aware
at all of the scope of the gambling or any
of the other behaviors because quote, team members effectively concealed
(22:51):
such behaviors from the coaches and staff through concerted efforts unquote,
So the coaching staff did not have a part of
this at all and legit detely no knowledge of it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I will point out that, I mean, I just again,
I don't think there's if there's something like racially divisive
or negative like in the text like doesn't shouldn't exist.
But again, and there's out there's a line there, and
everybody knows up when you've totally crossed the line. College
(23:24):
dudes and text like yeah again, I'm not giving anybody
pass because I haven't read them. I just know that
anyone who has been around eighteen to twenty two year
old dudes know that you have a tendency to say
lots of things. My fifteen year old's done something to
me the other day where I nearly like I literally
did pull off the through and like, what, my bad,
(23:47):
I didn't mean to say that, right, Okay, can I
give you guys my best gambling story from college? Oh yeah, okay.
The NCAA is listening, by the way, welcome whatever I think,
statue limitations, whatever. So my backcourt mate, former All American
dear friend, Joe Atkins, there are lots of things that
(24:09):
you want to do with him. You want to play
basketball him because he wins, and he's got that level
of confidence bordering arrogance.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He's also a guy that is brilliant on a very
like For example, he got back from playing in Russia
his second year playing professional basketball, and whereas when I
played in Russia, I bought a house, he bought what's
it called machines, vending machines in Oklahoma City, and I
(24:37):
was like, why did you do this? Like, dude, cash money?
You just so That's when in the off season what
he would do was he'd go and he'd work his
own vending machines, go and pick it up, and it's
always he still has them. It makes money doing that, right,
brilliant dude from a just a real standpoint. But he's
also never shoot dice with them. I don't know what
he does to him and don't play cards with him
(24:59):
because he's just good good. I don't know how he
does it. So we had a guy named Mike Johnson
shout out Mike j who was came for a little
bit of money. He's now I believe, works with his
dad in commercial real estate in Kansas City. He transferred.
We were roommates his second year there. My second year there,
(25:20):
for half a semester. Then he transferred to William Mary
had a really good career and but Mike J was
like our whale, right, like no disrespect, but no one
felt bad. We he took money off Mike J because
he could just call his dad and get None of
us had money like Mike J. His dad had some money. So,
like I said, Casino Knight, there was two different casino Knights.
We had a manager who had a house and in
(25:42):
their garage they had a craps table at a blackjack
table they had I can't remember what else they they had.
They had one more format. I think they had a
poker table as well. Maybe it might have been roulette. Yeah,
you going there. It was like a little legit casino.
And then the kind of kind of old school casino
night would be at Bennett Hall and Christmas right around
(26:05):
Christmas Break nineteen ninety seven is a long time ago.
I walked in on casino Night and I walk in
and there is a lot of cash in there. And
remember this is a lot of cash for college kids, right,
like two hundred and fifty bucks. And there's also a
Sony Discman. Do you guys remember Sony Diskman? Profet. You're
(26:26):
not old enough, you probably don't remember. No, I had
a discman, okay, oh you did, Yeah, yeah, I had
a CD man. Okay, so a Sony Discman, which at
the time that was as valuable then as an iPhone
is now. And then I walked in. There's also a
bike lock in there, like, what are you guys playing?
So they're playing ac doucy between the sheets over under?
Do you guys know that? Know that game? Very very
(26:48):
simple game, right? You have two cards on the outside
and you're betting that the card that's drawn is going
to be below those two. So if it's King Ace,
you always bet the pot. You always bet the pot,
and unless the next card over is a King or
an Ace, you take home the pot. If you if
(27:11):
King and Ace and you bet pot and it's a
King or an Ace, you have to match the pot.
When you're out of money, you have to come up
with some collateral. And the collateral in this particular case
was a Sony Discman, and it ended up being Mike
Johnson's Mountain bike. So but I forgive me, I digress.
We go back. When I walked in, there was asking
(27:33):
just the disc man in there, and Mike J is
up and he says pot to King Ace. He's talking.
He was a big trash talker. He's already counting his money.
He's looking at the pot. He's counting how much it is.
There's a whole build up. There's like ten guys in
the room. Yes, we were drinking at the time, probably
smoking some black and Miles as well. And King flips
(27:57):
over and dudes go crazy when, like Mike J, you've
got to match the pot. And the pot at that
point was probably five hundred bucks if you count the
sony disc man the two hundred fifty bucks whatever else
is in there. So we came up with the bike.
So he puts the bike clock. So then he's hopeful
that we can go around the room to where he
gets another opportunity to bet pot to get his bike back.
He didn't. Who got the bike? Joe Atkins got the bike.
(28:21):
Fast forward to the next day and what our coach
would do, the late great Hall of Famer Eddie Sutton
would do, is we'd Oftentie practice in the morning, Like,
why are you practice in the morning. We don't have to.
You have the gym all day, right, No one else
is around campus he would do it. So we couldn't
stay up all night because you can't pray. He can't
was he can't fly with the eagles. He hoot with
the owls. So practice at nine o'clock the next day.
(28:42):
Everyone has the rule. You got to be on the
court fifteen minutes before, usually sometimes thirty minutes before. You
got to be taped, fifteen minutes before, you got to
be shooting warmed up. So when we blow the whistle
of practice, is ready to go. Eight forty five everyone's there.
No Joe Akins. Eight fifty everyone's there, No Joeackins eight
fifty seven. W Atkins kicks in the door to the arena,
(29:03):
comes pedaling in onto his newly earned bicycle, parks at
mid court, locks it, and then starts shooting around, at
which point everybody's dying laughing. The coaches are even laughing.
They don't even know what it's about. We tell them,
like Ac Doocy got Mike Jay until he lost his bike.
(29:26):
That's my best gambling story. That's what I got for you.
That's a good one. That's right, that's a great one.
Just the build up of where is Joe? Where is
Joe when he comes riding in on a bicycle and
then locks it at mid court. He unlocked it and
moved it and we had ourselves in practice. That's amazing though,
that the swimming team. I would love to know how
they found out. I would, I would, I mean, I'd
(29:46):
love to know how it skewed the results. What those
guys are doing all year, right, how many of them?
They can't leave? You can't transfer at this point time.
Plus it's Notre Dame like you're going there for the
school for the be part of the you know, be
part to the subway alums. I bet it was some
petty thing that happened. So if you have all these
people in on it, all it takes is one person
(30:09):
in the group to be alienated. So if you like
make fun of like the towerp on the swim team,
he's like, Okay, I'll go to compliance about this little
gambling thing you had and we'll see. We'll see who's
laughing at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
You know, So you're saying he leaked the info about
their gambling pool.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Nice pool. See, that's why you guys are good together,
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Doug Gottlieb Show on Foxsports Radio. What are your thoughts
(31:54):
on Matthew Judon being traded from the Patriots to the Falcons.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I thought it made a lot of sense both sides.
I mean, the Falcons have been searching for pass rush.
It seems like forever every year, you know, doing the draft,
I sit on the desk and go, okay, they have
to take a pass rusher and they usually take another
offensive skill player, and it's been that way for a while.
They haven't been able to get that solved. So you
get a guy that's very proven, obviously on the back
(32:21):
end of his career, but still someone who's productive as
a pass rusher. So it makes sense for Atlanta. Definitely
a need for them. And then with the Patriots, Doug,
I mean I was talking about this with somebody of
the day. I think this is probably one of the
three worst rosters in the NFL. At this point in time,
their window is not open. It's probably two years away
from being open. So to rob young guys of reps
(32:45):
to give them to players who aren't going to be
a part of your team when you're any good doesn't
make a lot of sense. So that's why I think
it kind of makes sense for everyone involved here.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Okay, what do you think of the Falcons this year?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
I think they should be pretty good.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
You know, I look I Tampa is one that the
more that I look at Tampa, I feel like they
get overlooked. And I still I think if I had
to pick right now, I would pick Tampa to win
that division. But I think the Falcons have a real
shot of being there. I think they have a shot
of being a playoff team. We know about the you know,
they've got a solid offensive line, They've got plenty of
(33:24):
skilled talent, and they've just needed steady quarterback to play.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Those are two issues.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Was quarterback playing pass rush secondary is pretty good, actually
really good, so to go out in this offseason now,
I feel like they've they've done some things to show
up their their big question marks. And then and the
hill is not, you know, not the highest still to
climb inside that division.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That division is so weird, right, I mean.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
It's just has been.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
It's been weird for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah. But there was a time, I don't know, five
six years ago, it was a like a like an
elite division in football, right, and it was a new team.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Would win it every year.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Every year a different team win.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah. And then and then all of a sudden, Tampa
wins Zuper Bowl and the whole division collapses, just collapses
really like fast, like fascinating, fascinating stuff. I know you're
close to Joe Douglas, you made no secrets of that.
Explain how this is san Redick thing is happening, right,
because again and this is just what I've read you
know a lot more, which is they made the trade
(34:22):
for Redick, who won a new contract. But again this
is per reports, he had told them like I want
to play on the old contract and then get a
new contract after the year, and then now he wants
new contract. Is that what happened?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You know, I have not talked to.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Joe since the draft, so I have not had any
conversations with him at all about this.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
But the.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Clearly if some wires got crossed, you know, I don't
know how else to explain it. There's really just kind
of a couple of scenarios where, you know, one they
you have a situation where the player has said he'd
be willing to play on something, or his agent has
said he'd be wanting to play on the current contract,
and and then that wasn't true, or it was the
team that made a big promise and then didn't offer
(35:06):
a fair contract. That's the other scenario. And then the
third one would be, you know, it could be a
situation where the you have ownership that gets involved and says,
you know, hey, this is no I'm not doing that.
I don't want to. I don't want to, you know,
write that check for this for this player. So there's
a lot of different options in scenarios that exists out there.
I haven't heard concrete wise what you know, what the
(35:28):
deal is, but man, it's a talk about a huge
blow to the team when you allow Bryce Huff to leave.
You know, even though you've got Will McDonald, a young
first round pick that I know is a talented player,
you got Jermaine Johnson, but man, you swapped out Huff
for Hassan Reddick with the hopes that you know you
you at least were as good, if not better, in
(35:49):
that spot, and now you've.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Gotten neither on a team that's really kind of an
all in push.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
So it's a it's a it's a bad spot, no question.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
When you say all in, that thinks just to the
Dallas Cowboys, Right. So, Okay, you have Ceedee Lamb, who
you know still has a year left obviously on his contract.
You got Micah Parsons who badly wants to get a
new contract. You have Dak Prescott in the last year
of his deal, but it's a massive, massive cap hit,
(36:19):
but they don't seem to want to redo it, you know,
kind of a prove it sort of sort of year.
What's your sense of how this goes down? Because Jerry
has never I mean, emmittt was the last guy he
threatened to not pay and it lasted a couple of
games and then ultimately he paid him. But generally Jerry
generally relents and pays his guys. What do you think
happens here?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I think Ceedee Lamb is paid. You know, that would
be shocking to me if that didn't get done, you know,
just to me. I don't know. I was up there
at training camp.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I talked with Dak Prescott and we had him on
the air and talked him a little bit before. He
seemed totally at piece with whatever happens, Like I didn't
think he was, you know, he was itching to get
a deal, died. I think he almost would like to
get out there on the market and see what happens.
I don't, you know, I'll be honest, I don't see
him there long term with the Cowboys. And then you know,
(37:10):
we'll see what happens with Micah Parsons. You know, do
they do they pay him or do they or do
they try and use him as a ship to go
out and get a zillion fixed and try and find
their their next quarterback. I don't know how to make
sense of.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Everything that's going on there.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
It doesn't really make a lot of sense. And the
whole all in thing, I mean, goodness, gracious, they're they're
like they're it's the opposite of all in. Like they
they've orderline folded their hand at this point in time,
like they got to get at least one of these
things done, which is why I'd be shocked if they
don't get seedee Lamb done. You can't roll into the
season without him.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Daniel Jeremiah moved the Sticks podcast and you see him
in the NFL Network and of course he calls Charger
games for living. Joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports, Rady quickly on the Chargers likelihood Justin
Herbert's back for week one.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
You know, I I sure hope. So you know, Harbaugh
is not going to talk about injuries, not going to
get into any specifics there. You're not gonna get anything
out of him. So until they have to put out
an official injury report week one, I think we're all
just kind of uh guessing in that situation. But man,
they they sure do need him. That was evident in
the first preseason game. Uh, there's a there's a chance
(38:21):
to have a really good offensive line there. They didn't
have their backs playing. I think they'll be fine in
the backfield. But man, it's a it's a big difference
when you go from Justin Herbert to East and Stick.
It's no no knock on East and it's just that's
that's a totally different, totally different animal. So uh, he
has to uh, he has to be out there on
the field for them. To to not only you know,
try and win, but to be really competitive offensively.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Does the offense work with Justin Herbert? I think so.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
I think it will.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
I think that, you know, again, the offensive line is good.
You'll see him use the tight ends. It's gonna look different.
It's gonna look different. I mean, I think they'll be
They'll pick their spots on those days where they want
to uh, where they want to chuck it, you know,
forty times a game, but I think those will be, uh,
those will be few and far between. I think you're
gonna see a lot more of it of you know, hey,
trying to take some of that off of his point,
(39:10):
and I think that will work.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
We've discussed this before, but you, me and Cowherd were
like the three last remaining stockholders in Sam donoald LLC. Right,
we're like still got it, still got my stock hey,
and all you want. It's not just a chance, but
it's a system that he knows because essentially some hybridized
version of San Francisco which he had been in. Right,
(39:34):
you have Addison and Justin Jefferson, and you know you
got Aaron Jones as well, So you got a good back.
You got really good wide receivers, you're playing for a
coach who's a former quarterback, like you're playing indoors, like
all of this stuff all right, How you feel? How
are we feeling about our stock?
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Well, it's alive, right, I've got some that have been
taken off the off the market, so.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
That one at least is still alive.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
And you know, so I Ain got hurt the other day.
I know Howkinson's beat up. So not like he's going
in there, you know, fully armed with all their their
all their pieces in place. But I think one of
the things that they have there that he's going to
really appreciate is they they've got a good offensive line.
Like Christian Derrisa is one of the best left tackles.
I don't know if people know much about him, but he.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Is really really good.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
So they've got they've got a good offensive line. You
mentioned all the other pieces they have around and playing indoors,
and I think the other thing, you know, I don't
know that anybody would admit it there, but it's just
human nature. The fact that you have a first round
quarterback that is out for the year and not having
to look over your shoulder after an interception, you know,
or a bad game. I mean, Sam's got this is
(40:42):
a long runway for him here and a good opportunity.
So I'm optimistic for him because, you know, not not
because of the great I gave him coming out, but
just getting to know him.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
He's a good dude. Everybody that's ever played.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
With him really likes the guy. So this is it, man,
This is everything set up for him, and this is
a career defining year for him.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Daniel Jeremiah Jonius and the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Trader same division. Look, everybody loves Jordan Love, and
I don't want to think that the contract was an
overreaction to you know, hey, we were right and everybody
who said letting Aaron go, anybody said Aaron letting Airon
go was wrong. Whatever, And obviously Aaron getting hurt kind
of helped to help that as well. But there was
a good portion last year when he's okay, and it's
(41:25):
only one year, right, Like usually you got to do
it for a couple of years before you get that
that sort of payday. How committed are you to Jordan
Love being anywhere near the value of his contract.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I think there's still I think you're a fair and
saying hey, there's you know, there's still a little bit
of wait and see there. I think the reason why
he got paid is a combination of the things. He
obviously the small sample size, right, but I think the
small sample size combined with the you know, just the
tools and the traits that you knew he had coming
out of college like that were undeniable in terms of
(42:03):
the talent. So I think when you have your long
on talent, you're short on experience and production. But I
think when you kind of put those two things together,
I think it makes it a little bit more of
a reasonable gamble that they that they were going to
take on him with the number. I was still surprised
at anyone that they got as high as they did.
Hats off to Jordan Love and his representatives to get that,
(42:24):
because I did not think he would get to that number.
But I think that's behind the decision making there in
Green Bay. Is that okay, not just like this isn't
you know Nick Mullen's going out there and having a
good five run, five game, stretch your gardner Minshew having
a good you know, seven eight games like this is
someone who has big time, big time ability and talent
and upside, and now we combine that with what we've seen,
(42:46):
even though it's a small sample size. I think that's
why they were willing to make that move.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You always want to jam in Padre's talk and usually
doesn't work like best.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Do you know what happened last time we talked?
Speaker 6 (42:58):
By the way, No, the Olympics basketball game with.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
And so I wasn't paying I wasn't paying attention at
all to what you were saying. Was it that what happened?
Speaker 5 (43:06):
So it was the Olympics, The hoops were going on,
and so you you're obviously you're hoops gay, so your.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Mind is in hoops mode.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
I mean, I'm glad we won the gold medal, but
I don't care. I don't, So I hold hold on you.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
You do love hoops? Have you ever seen anything like again,
like honest question, Oh yeah, okay, so one possession game,
like the house is on fire and the guy hits
four straight threes including the last one, is just ridiculous.
Do you ever see anything like that?
Speaker 5 (43:35):
Not that I can remember, in that pressure of a
pressure of a moment. I've seen enough Warrior games over
the years to seen him get on hot streaks and
Clay Clay's had some crazy hot streaks as well, but
not in that high pressure moment like that game. But
I was aware of.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
That game, Doug.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I mean I had it on, but I was just
making a Padres throwaway comment that game was coming down
to the wire.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
But I'm sorry. I was like, like, listen, how when
I do my show in my office at Green Bay, Okay,
I have my whole radio set up, a camera in
front of me, I got, I got various monitors, and
then I have this gigantic thank you to Sundance Wicks
who left me this gigantic TV that I moved from
the side to like right in front of me so
I can watch film and watch games. And I'm literally
(44:18):
like talking to you and trying to lock in on
the monitor and listen to you. But I I was
struggling because I'm watching USA Hoopston was unbelievable, So I
owe you that apology. But we're playing Serbia. It was
amazing anyway.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
But here was the line though. Here was the line though,
I said, Doug, we're only two and a half man
two and a half, meaning the pods are only two
and a half back and you said, I know, this
is an amazing game, and I'll go with Doug.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
How can you be up two and a half points
in the basketball game?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Come on, man, I missed it. I apologize, dude. I mean, like,
listen me, you got to call me out for not
paying attention to a conversation.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Man, we're gonna run the Dodgers down. Like this is
good for America.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
This is great, Uh, Dodgers. Dodgers done pretty well here
against the Brewers. I mean that's a pretty pretty tough
level of competition. What's changed with your pods? Uh?
Speaker 5 (45:06):
They all get along really really well. The chemistry is great,
and they've nailed all of the glue picks, like all
of the veteran guys, Peralta, Solano Wade, like all these guys.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
They've they've got superstars. They've had superstars, but.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
They got the right glue pieces. So it's fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
It is fun to watch. Well, listen, if they play
the Brewers in the playoffs, since a weekday game, you're
not doing your tell me like, we'll go and the
Brewers guys been awesome. And I mean, you know, Pat Murphy,
Murphy is fantastic dude, like, let's legit come to m
k E and we'll go to a playoff game. If
the pods play the play the brewker, I'm in.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Every buddy man it appreciate joining us.
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