August 19, 2024 • 46 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug reacts to the comments made by Dolphins' head coach Tua Tagovailoa about his former head coach Brian Flores.
Doug weighs in on the return weekend for Caitlin Clark. Doug welcomes sports reporter Holly Rowe onto the show to preview the college football season.
Doug and the crew share what they loved most from the sports weekend and what they hated most about the weekend.
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You know what week it is. It's the week before
game week, which is actually game week week zero in
(00:45):
college football. Right, it's week zero, which is super which
is super we weird because it's actually week one.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's like preboarding a plane. You want to get on
a plane. Before you board a plane, how do you
how does that all work? Not really sure, doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This is a game week. This is I think it's
gonna be a really good show.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
By the way, we'll talk some Caitlin Clark, Holly row
will join us here in about twenty five minutes. Gets
you ready for the college football season. And boy, there
is one name as a rookie starting quarterback there. Everybody's
just trying to convince us is better than the rest.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'll see.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'll tell you why I need some convincing coming up next,
but let's start with this. Speaking of quarterbacks, you know,
a couple of years ago, Brian Flores was fired by
the Miami Dolphins, and it was during a time in
which there were other minority candidates for head coaching jobs
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in the NFL, and there were a paucity of black
head coaches, and many people said that Flora's being fired
and oh yeah, oh, by the way, Flora's being told
by Bill Belichick, who was getting the Giants job before
he ever interviewed for the Giants job, was seen as
some sort of racism, and at the time I tried
to inform people how comical and ludicrous those assertions were,
(02:08):
mostly because if you knew who he was working for
in Miami, his entire front office is black, and if
you read the reports and talk to people and understood
that he came from the Belichick Tree, you knew how
all this thing was kind of sort of going down.
Then you're like, okay, well, why didn't he get a
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shot with the New York Giants. You know they already
picked the white coach, they brought him in.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, No, that's not how it works.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And this is where I can give although it's only
the last three months, I can give you the reality
of how it works in coaching. The reality is that
when Wyoming came open, everyone and their brother, myself included,
knew that Sundance Wicks, who preceded me at Green Bay,
would be the next head coach there. So it didn't
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matter who they interviewed and who they talked to. Sun
Dances from Wyoming came on the staff and had been
a head coach previous to Green Bay and was a
head coach at Green Bay and turned him from four
wins to eighteen wins.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was an absolute no brainer, right.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And if you look at the New York Giants, John
Marra is really close to Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick didn't
tell him not to interview for the job. He just
told him who was ultimately going to get the job. Why,
Because the Bills were the offense, and the change in
Josh Allen was so apparent that you wanted that offensive
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coordinator be your guy. Right you had you want to
draft a new quarterback, You had to have a new system.
The quarterback whispered, that's who you're going to pick, as
opposed to Brian Flores, who had major trouble a new
offensive coordinator every year, couldn't get along with the offensive
coordinators apparently couldn't get out along with the front office.
And then he clearly did not think that to a
(04:02):
tongue of Ioloa was good enough. But because Brian Flores
sued the league for discrimination, and because Brian Flores hasn't
gotten a job since, despite the fact he was an
outstanding defensive coordinator going back to his time short time
with the Newton Patriots, there was this overall sense of, well,
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he got fired because of racism. To a tongue of
Iolawa is Hawaiian. He's of Polynesian descent, and I only
tell you that because you know that. But remember, you
have an all black front office. You have a Polynesian
quarterback who was selected number four in the draft. Some
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people believe that the Miami Dolphins wanted to lose games
to make sure they got to a tongue of ioloa.
And oh yeah, by the way, Brian Flores has echoed
that I think everybody knew that to be the case.
But if you want to know why he lost the job,
take a listen to Tua and what he said to
Dan LeBatard.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To put it in simplest terms, if you woke up
every morning and I told you you suck at what
you did, that you don't belong doing what you do,
that you shouldn't be here, that this guy should be here,
that you haven't earned this right, and then you have
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somebody else come in and tell you, dude, you are
the best fit for this, Like you are accurate, you
are the best. Whatever you are, this you are that.
Like how would it make you feel listening to one
or the other? You see what I'm saying, and then
you hear it. You hear it regardless of what it is,
the good or the bad, and you hear it more
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and more. You start to actually believe that, I don't
care who you are, you can be the president of
the United States. You have a terrible person that's telling
you things that you don't want to hear or that
you probably shouldn't be hearing.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You're going to start to believe that about yourself. Remember
what he said.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And again I do believe that he was just going
and ranting, but he said a terrible person, that's how
he described Brian Flores, and that he killed his confidence.
And look, when you're coaching, confidence is actually job number one.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's a really hard thing.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And players today are different than players of if you're
in your forties or older our era, right the old
break them down, build them back up. But in professional
sports it's almost unheard of, with the exception of the Patriots.
And here therein lies the problem with so many former
Patriots assistants, so many of them where they walk in
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and they carry themselves as if they're Bill Belichick, as
if they're Bill Belichick, not understanding that Bill Belichick had
earned that respect over twenty plus years of success and
had just the right player in a Tom Brady, to
coach in just the right way. He was toughest on
Tom Brady, but Tom Brady could take it. And oh yeah,
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by the way, Tom Brady was always already accomplished, so
too is Bill Belichick. So so many of these guys
have gone down and done their Belichick impression and he
doesn't work. Then you factor in that you have a
completely different generation of player and you have a really
smart player in a TUA who when you're smart.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You can also be sensitive to where you listen to guys.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
When a guy says you suck, they turn and go really,
whereas hardcourt dudes say you suck and they say I'm
gonna prove to you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You have to know him.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
The mentality of each player, at the confidence level of
each player. I'll give you an example. When I played
in college, my backcourt mate this guy named Joe Atkins. Okay,
you could tell Joe whatever you wanted. You could take
him out, you could yell at him, you could tell
me he didn't know what a good chot was. When
Joe got back of the game and he's felt any
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sort of light that ball was going up, he had unmistakable,
undeniable self confidence. I did not did not, And you know,
if you go back and you watch my college, I'm like,
why did't you shoot your one up? Because I was
scared to get taken out of the game, and you
can't ultimately succeed that way. But in the short term,
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you try and be a pleaser, You try and please
your coach. Tuua, he starts smart dude, he starts question himself.
Maybe I do suck, Maybe I'm not good enough, maybe
I should have imposter syndrome. The point is that your
ability to maintain the respect of your quarterback, to get
the best out of him, to coach him hard but fair,
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that is usually what determines your success in the National
Football League. And for anyone who said Brian Flores was
fired or hasn't gotten any of these jobs because of
the color of his in that simply means they haven't
called Miami because this is what they have told everybody
without saying it on camera. Another front office is killed
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Brian Flores and Tua only did because of the juxtaposition
of Mike McDaniel now with how he was coached previously
and what works for him. But there's so much here
in that story, right. It's the truth about Flores. It's
why those Belichick guys haven't succeeded. It's why Mike McDaniels
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is succeeding. It's the new age of player and how
they have to be coached and it's confidence, which is
just as important as conditioning and as culture. Those are
the three big season if you want to win in sports.
If you destroy somebody's confidence, you're destroying their game and
the break them down. Building back up that era is gone.
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It takes a really special kid, a really special person
to accept that level of crit and you don't have
the time to build him back up like you used
to back when kids would go to college for four
and five years. But good for Tua, tough for Flores,
good luck getting a head coaching job now when you
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were called a terrible person by two I Tako bylow Yeah,
Dann Buyer, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know the only thing about this that just strikes
me as odd as the timing of it. And usually
when you get the last laugh or the maybe you
win a super Bowl and then a lot of stuff
comes out afterwards because you've proved everyone wrong. I get
the sense, and I'm curious in what you think. Does
he say it now because he got the contract? Sure,
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you know, like but then you wonder, all right, what
are the goals? Like was it winning the Super Bowl?
Was that what he was going to come out? Was
it getting paid? When was this actually going to was
it when he retired, and now we found out that
it comes out after he gets it's the big contract
where he feels like like he's now been validated. And
I find I find it interesting. And maybe because of
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the glowing remarks that he made about Mike McDaniel and
what they've got going on in Miami, he felt that
them giving him the contract is another reason to to
show a positive light on that crew. But I just
find it interesting that it's he does this after he
gets the contract, and maybe not winning a Lombardi or
winning an MVP or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, No, he definitely did the how you like me now?
And I mean he that one is a that's a
heavy weight around the neck of Brian Flores.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But I would also.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Commend to on waiting to just the right way and
and and selling it at just the right I mean,
giving us I think way more in terms of honesty
than anybody else would have in regards to what really
went down, you know, because a lot of times when
you have something negative, say be like, you know, there's
some things that went on I disagree with some ways
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that like no, no, no, he's said he's a terrible person.
He told me, I sucked it. Everything he told me
I didn't belong here, and it started to wear on me.
I just I agree with you. The timing is like, oh,
because you got the contract. But I do think he's
given us context everything on why he believes he's been
so successful recently as opposed to why it was so
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awfully on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's a very fair point. You make, very fair point.
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should be welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Every Monday, we I'm trying
to figure out how do we put together the weekend,
and I don't know if we'll be able to do
this once NFL starts or college football starts Monday, because
(13:04):
there's just so many storylines.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Maybe we will, I don't. We haven't really decided yet.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But we're four very different people, from Sam who's like
mister WNBA, to Jason who's mister Dodger, to Dan who
obviously has his own show on Sundays Plush Locked In
on golf, and on and on both college and pro football,
to all of my various kind of things which are
in my mental rolodecks.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We all have different things for checking out. Let's get
to what we love from the weekend. Well, we hated
from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
God? I love you and what did you.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Hate these Claire hay Is, Let's start with you, Jay
stew some of you love from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Doug.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Every time I hear this song, it reminds me of
every time I hear this song, it reminds me of
my favorite Christmas movie Love. Actually, if you haven't seen
it once, you do see it, you'll see what I mean.
Great song by the Beatles. What I love from the
weekend is Doug. This is the fourth anniversary. This weekend
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is the fourth anniversary of maybe the most fascinating, remarkable,
slash funny piece of sound. Now I hate saying it's
funny because it cost somebody his livelihood, But Tom Brenneman
went to a break. He was doing the Reds Royals
baseball game four years ago and he made a regrettable
(14:41):
comment about gay people on a hot mic when he
thought they had gone to a break, didn't go to
a break, and it was live over air. So he
came back from the break and he said this.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
I pride myself and think of myself as a man
of faith. As there's a drive in a deep left
field by Costiganos, it will be a home run and
so that'll make it a four to nothing ball game.
I don't know if I'm to be putting on this
headset again. I don't know if it's going to be
for the Reds. I don't know if it's going to
(15:17):
be for my bosses at Fox. I'm going to apologize
for the people who sign my paycheck, for the Reds,
for Fox Sports, Ohio, for the people I work with,
for anybody that I've offended here tonight. I can't begin
to tell you how deeply sorry I am. That is
not who I am and never has been. And I'd
(15:38):
like to think maybe I could have some people that
they could back that up. I am very very sorry,
and I beg for your forgiveness.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Now. What I love about this, by the way, I
love the way that the story has grown since then
that Nick Castillano's seems to be a guy who hits
a home run when there was a tragic happening in
the world somewhere, and I think that's funny. I hate
that Tom brennanman hasn't been on the air in four years.
That sucks, But I think that this is really one
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of the all time greats. This is one of the
all time sound bites, and I wanted to celebrate it
today on the show.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
There's a drive by castianos is I mean, who doesn't
know that saying?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Now you know where it comes from? Right? All right?
Dan Byer sent me a love for the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
You know, it's funny because this is a scenario where
when you do good news or bad news, like I
would rather do my hate first and then my love
because it just syncs up with my weekend. Sure, but
sports wise, I think all of us who play the
game of golf can understand. Just did not have it
on the range on Saturday, And Doug, you know next
week I'll be back in America's dairy land playing a
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bunch of golf here, there and everywhere. And yesterday had
a bit of a breakthrough and so to go through
the struggles of Saturday doesn't mean I'm curing the ball
by any means, but it was a heck of a
lot better than what Saturday was. Saturday when I even
ripped the whole in my glove because I was messing
with my grips so much, it was it was atrocious.
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But to have something come through positively on Sunday after
going through the depths of my you know, despair on
the range on Saturday, is a very very good feeling.
Who knows how I'll play next week, but I at
least felt better yesterday than I did the day before,
and that is a that is a big thing when
you are just searching and you're like, I don't even
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know how to hold this club right now. It was
much better yesterday.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Okay, what about you there, Sammy, Well, I'd be lying
if I said that I didn't love the weekend that
Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
Had WNBA schedule resuming, and she was well rested and
came out there and just did about as well as
you would hope she would do, and breaking the rookie
assist record Sunday.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You listen, you can't lose to.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
A phoenix Mercury team on Friday with Diana Tarassi coming
back from the Olympics winning her twenty second gold medal. Joking,
of course, but you couldn't lose to her. That would
be a really bad look. So they took care of
business Friday night, took care of business Sunday. Caitlyn Clark,
she got her name back on the tip of our
tongues here in the sporting world. So that's my love
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of the weekend. Kaitlyn Clark's big weekend for the WNBA.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
But it's the way she played. Yeah, we love she
played on Friday is what all of us tuned in
to see her play in college.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
You love the ton ton wagging, and you love the
you love the grit, You love the Squagoun't it.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
In your opponent's face. It is the swag. It's I
love that she knows most people in the league can't
stand her, and she's gonna rub it in their face
because she's getting more comfortable, and I love that about her.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I personally love that the Atlanta Falcons have shut down
Michael Pennix because none of this makes any sense, and
I've had people go like, well, I'm with the the
Atlanta thing like it, Yeah, it's not that big a
deal or whatever, like what that somehow they won because
they made a trade. Like they have two quarterbacks, one
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that people think should be a starter as a rookie
and one who has been probably the most overlooked, solid
pro bowl level quarterback in the last two decades in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Like Kirk Cousins only last year started to earn people's
respect because that Quarterback show, he's on basis show for
six thousand yards, and like, you sign him, and then
you draft a guy in the first round. Everybody in
the first round except for Jo Love, plays right away.
No reason Jordan Love didn't play right away was one,
there was Aaron Rodgerson.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Two.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Jordan Love had only played two years in college. Michael
Pennix played five years in college, Like he's a finished product.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And then to add to it to not play him
in the preseason where you give him reps. And I
continue to think that Dan Byer is onto something here
where they just didn't want they just didn't want him
to people be cheering for Michael Pennix. It's just such
bizarre handling of such what I believe would be a
simple situation. You sign Kirk Cousins, you draft a developmental quarterback, fine,
(20:34):
but not one of the first round. That's just doesn't
make any sense. And the more we see it, the
more Atlanta exposed itself as as a front office that
doesn't know what they're doing. They may win, but they're
gonna win in spite of not because of their front office.
What do you hate from the weekend?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Let's start with our resident hater, Jason Stewart, Jase dou.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
It's actually it's the it's buttoning up what Sam loved
about the weekend. So the other side of the Caitlin
Clark love fest is the uh, the bitterness from the
players and coaches around the league. This was a response
from some Seattle Storm player named Jewel Something or Jewel Lloyd.
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The actual question is, talk about the impact that Caitlin
Clark has had as a rookie in the w n
B A.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
I'm gonna talk about our rookies. Nikas in great, she's
an awesome putting her work in. I think our George
Jordan has been phenomenal to her second year.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Of her growth.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
You know, our focus is our team on and what
we need to do as a community to be better.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Now.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
I don't know who the commissioner is for the WNBA.
I know she wears weather jackets a lot. That's what
I know. That's that about her. I would find this
player and I would give mandatory media training on how
to re message Caitlin Clark on the WNBA. You have
a chance in this moment to promote the golden goose
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of the league, the person that's going to make Jewel
Lloyd much more money in her next contract. Just beat
your rass on the court and you should have something
gracious to say about that. The way she chose to
handle this as a finable offense, Doug.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I mean, they just every person in business, in the
business of sports I talked to says the exact same thing,
the exact same thing, which is, what are these women doing?
They're just the dumbest people ever in regards to how
you run a business.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
They're competitive, though, I mean, I kind of don't blame her,
like she's she's tired of hearing about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's like, hey, we.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Have all these people showing up to games that they
never showed up to before.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
We also play in the WNBA. We we've got talent too,
We put up stats. But you know, everyone wants to
talk about Kaitlyn and that's wonderful, but I get it
annoying and aggravating the players because you got to have
the rest of the players, the rest of the teams
around her in order for Kaitlin to flourish. So it's
competitive league, man, They're tired of it. There's such an
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easy way of handling it as well.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You can talk about Kaitlyn Clark and then allow your
rookies to get some shine to say, like, I love
our rookies as well, but they choose not to do that. Yes, correct,
they know she's good.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
I mean, so it's just like, yeah, we're gonna avoid
talking about her completely.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
All right, Dan Buyer some you hate it from the weekend.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Man, Aaron Judge continuing to make headlines everywhere. No, just
kidding what I hated. And this is kind of a
weird spin on the hate. But props to Discovery Channel
for this six part limited series that came to an
end in the eye of the storm, and you couldn't
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get this sort of stuff. I don't know. Fifteen years ago. Now,
when a storm or any like natural disaster hits, everybody's
got their phone on them and immediately starts recording. And
it was just unbelievable footage week after week from these
devastating storms. Last the finale that that just wrapped up
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in the latest episode where these tornadoes they hit Texas
and Kansas just you know, they have the Iowa ones
a couple of weeks ago that I think we talked about.
But I hate that this is over, that there's not
going to be a new episode. I'm glad people that
there aren't more storms that are that are going to
be kidding and that people were damaged in dealing with this.
But it was just so well done and just the
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this footage that they put together. If you're a weather fan,
like this is this series was a can't miss series.
And I'm just said that it's it's come to an end.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
I like that. That's see, that's a great way to
do it. If you don't really hate something, you just
hate something that you loved coming to an end, that's
a great way to do this. Kind of skirting the
rules a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, but it's a gray area, allow it. It's a
gray area, but I'll allow it, all right. What about
you there, Sammy.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
I just want to mention one thing speaking of storms, So,
Hurricane Debbie, I believe, just kind of went through Florida
and big shocker, like millions of dollars worth of cocaine
washed up on some beach. It's just so funny, like
it's just it's just always Florida. Man, I don't know,
it's just Hurricane Debbie passes through and they're like, oh,
what's this all right, sounds.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Like one of the positives of Quama change.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
Yeah, more drugs washing up on the beach. Great, my
my hate of the weekend. And it's like it's it's
also with the side of you know, entertaining factor, but
it's Tyreek Hill getting on social media on Sunday and
challenging no Alliles to a fifty yard dash. Oh this
is just so stupid because I kind of agree with
Noah Lyles, like he's being very literal in the sense
(25:57):
of when you're a Super Bowl champion, you're a world champion,
only in the sense that you're the world is the
United States. So I get no Alliles being like, don't
call yourself a world champion. Unless you compete against other people,
you know, in the world of the greater globe. But
then I also, you know, Tyreek Hill, he should be
focused on the upcoming season and not not this rubbish.
(26:20):
So it's funny, it's entertaining, but also like you know,
don't worry about no Alliles.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Let him have his his shine right now. I have
a hate that's connected with Iowa. Sam. If you want
to say that my other note was passed along.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Especially because it's about Sam, I think you should be
allowed to talk about.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So this past weekend, Noah Kent, guy who plays golf
for the University of Iowa another note, had a great
run to the final of the US Amateur at hazel
Teine in Minnesota. And on Friday I got the you know,
the email from the USGA that's saying Kent is advanced
through the quarterfinals. I forwarded that to Sam Iowa. Sam,
(27:01):
this kid went to Iowa. I thought that he would,
he would take an interest and maybe follow And then
when I followed up with him yesterday about it, did
you you don't even read the email?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Sam? Like you did read it? I have it right
here in front of him. Did not even like hit
his radar or gloss over it. He has done Iowa
based segments on shows on this network before, where he
would touch on things that were happening at UNI and
Drake and Grennell and all these places. And I give
him an Iowa Hawkeye doing great things in golf and
(27:33):
he just completely ignores it. And by the way, Noah
Kent gets to go to the Masters because he finished
in the made it to the final match of the
US Amateur. So that's a pretty good, pretty good deal. Well,
the name Noah Kent will be on my radar from
here on out.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Dan, I do appreciate that I had a little bit
of an unorthodox week last week, taking my weekend on
Thursday Friday, So I'm sorry I missed that he's speaking of.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Well, it was in your inbox.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It was.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
It was.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It's still there, and I know it's been covered some,
but I don't know if it's been covered enough.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Do you guys see the boyse stage story.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
There's a quarterback named Maddick is it Maddix Madson who's
five ten, two hundred pounds, just an average looking kid
from American Fork, Utah, and he beat out Malchi Nelson.
Who's you know six three sixty four former top five
quarterback prospect in the country, and I just look, this
(28:30):
is this is part of the hard part about college
athletics and the really sad part about high school rankings. Right,
Malachi Nelson, they were down I think twenty one or
twenty four to nothing at halftime of the CIF semi
finals in high school.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And I don't know if it's his dad or.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
His parents, they pulled him from the game for fear,
you know, they want to protect him for USC. Never
played for USC, transfer goes to the boys State, gets
beat out by a guy no one's ever heard of. Again, Like,
I'm not pouring salt in a wound here, I'm just saying,
like this is there's actually a good story to the Hey,
whoever is good enough to win for us now doesn't
matter to your rankings. The bad part is that it's
(29:11):
such a huge part of high school kids' lives the internet, right,
and it creates this false sense of how good somebody
really is in the end, in these high school rankings.
And he was the king of these seven on seven
stuff and show up in like super bright outfits, and
he had swag, had had had a confidence to him.
(29:34):
Turns out it's more arrogance and it doesn't work. So
I just I hate it for him. But I hate
that the wake up call came after his second school.
And I hate how the disproportionate way we look at
at athletes based upon people ranking things that don't really
know what.
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Speaker 2 (30:41):
So.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Caitlin Clark helped the Indiana Fever get another win last night,
ninety two seventy five over Seattle Storms. She break broke
the WNBA single season Ricky mark for assists. She's averaging
eight point three per game. Tisha Pinchero was the previous
record holder with to twenty four. She had nine for
(31:02):
two thirty two. I believe they're playing more games now,
so whatever, but she did break it early in the season.
Remember they beat THEIX Phoenix Mercury ninety eight eighty nine
in Indy. Clark had twenty nine in that game. She
al Sa had ten assists in five rebounds. She was
asked about a technical foul she got.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
During the game.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Seattle player Juwel Lloyd was asked, We'll get to that.
Her response in a second, but here's Caitlyn Clark. When
I asked about that technical foul.
Speaker 12 (31:30):
I got a technical for basically being mad at myself
because I missed the three and then I went and
hit the backboard, and he told me it was disrespectful
to the game of basketball.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So I don't know.
Speaker 12 (31:38):
It reminded me of the technical that I got in
college where I said, damn it, where it's like a
personal frustration, had nothing to do with the REFI had
nothing to do with other teams. It was just because
I'm a competitor and I felt like I should have
been making more shots. But I think he fired me
up to continue to.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Play a lot harder. I thought we got a lot better.
Speaker 12 (31:53):
I needed that, so I want to thank him for that.
But overall, I thought once we got to that media
timeout around minutes in the third quarter, I.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thought we all kind of just took a breath. It
was a little.
Speaker 12 (32:03):
Chaos there for two and a half minutes, and I
think I could have done a better job of kind
of regame I'm cool. But that's like the fire passion
that just gets me going. It's just finding a way
to channel that and use that. I thought I did
a really good job with that. At the the third
and the fourth.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Quarter, here's a Skyler Diggins kind of bumped shoulders with
her and there's some kerfuffle between the coaches. Here's Juel Lloyd,
who plays for Seattle Storm. She was asked what she
thinks about the impact Caitlin Clark has had on the
WNB as rookie.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
I'm gonna talk about our rookies. Nika has been great,
She's been awesome putting her work in. I think our
Jordan has been phenomenal to her second year of her growth.
You know, our focus is our team and what we
need to do as a community to be better.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
This question.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The level of pettiness in the women's game is surprising
to most people, not surprising to me. I told people
this a long time ago, Like the number one thing
holding women back and broadcasting is other women. They just
cattiness and pettiness. And the number one thing holding back
to the WNBA this season is cattiness and pettiness. Cattiness
(33:07):
and pettiness. I mean, it's just comical how they like.
I don't want to talk about her, so I'm going
to talk about her own rookies.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
The crowds are massive, she's playing incredibly well. It costs
nothing to give somebody a compliment and to go, hey,
the Caitlin Clark thing is awesome, and we want to
take all that popularity and have people learn about our rookies.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
They just can't do it, can't do it. We got
to Holly row in a second.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
First, let's get to a Dan Byer get a quick
update and everything going on sports, Danny woy.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Got you know, I will say the conversation that we
had Friday about the NFL and Caitlin Clark a spurt
of topic I did on my show yesterday with Carrie
Rhodes in talking about the WNBA playoffs, which we mentioned
starts September twenty second. Carrie, former All pro, a starter
from day one in the NFL, chose to watch Caitlyn
(34:10):
Clark in the playoffs over six of the seven early
window games in Week three of that NFL season. So
on September twenty second, when it's Week three, we went
through the entire schedule and of the early window the
one o'clock Eastern time games, Carrie Rhodes chose to watch
Caitlin Clark in the playoffs as opposed to the NFL action.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Come on, do you believe?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I don't know it was surprising you. I thought Texans
Vikings he was completely down with watching football that he said, No,
that wasn't the case. Bears Colts was the only game
that he ended up saying that he would watch over
Caitlin Clark in the playoffs. The late window a little
different because you have Ravens, Cowboys, Niners, Rams, Dolphins, Seahawks, Heck, Lions, Arizona.
(34:56):
Good open window, but that playoff weekend and it'll be
interesting to see with the w NBA puts Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And she
is synonymous, synonymous with sports really really of course, having
been a reporter for ESPN for years, she's covered the
NFL college football, men's college basketball, women's college basketball, the WNBA.
She's also covered the Jazz for the Jazz Local TV Network.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
She does it all.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
She's holdy row okay back and of course she's here
to talk about College Color Days, which is back for
its twentieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Holly, how are you? I am so great? How are you?
I'm good? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'm busiting one armed paperhanger, as are you? College Color Days?
And I know that Finax is offering twenty five percent
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Speaker 2 (35:51):
What was it just you where your college colors? Is
that as simple as it is?
Speaker 13 (35:54):
Yeah, it's really cool. So College Colors Day is the
day before kind of college football kicks for real. So
August thirtieth, they've been doing this for twenty years, and
they're just kind of like telling everybody out there, like, hey,
go to work being your you know, I'm sitting here
in my Utah gear or you would go in your
Oklahoma state gear. It's like, today's the day where you
tell everybody, here's who I'm going to be cheering for.
(36:16):
I'll season long, this is the tribe belong to you,
and this is who I'm rolling with. So it's kind
of a fun way to get people psyched for the season.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It's interesting because there's very much a like that's the
difference between the Midwest, the South, and like and most
of the coastal states is you know, Northeast where you
and I have spent a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Of time, or even in LA.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Like you, if you're in the Midwest and you get
on an airplane or you're going out for the night,
it's very very normal to throw on your college gear
and it's not inappropriate at all, Whereas if you're in LA,
you're in New York and you throw on your Alabama
you know, pullover or your hoodie.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Like people like are you going to a game, what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
It's very interesting in terms of the region, you know,
kind of a dress code if you will.
Speaker 13 (37:03):
Yeah, I think particularly in SEC country, it's like your
daily outfit really, like you might be in some takis
and an auburn shirt every day of your life if
you live in the South. But it's so cute because like,
I've been traveling this summer all over the world. I
got back from the Paris Olympics, and it's so crazy
to me. I'll be like on the top of a
wall in Dubrovnik, on a medieval city and there's people
(37:27):
rocking their Iowa gear or their Auburn gear or their
LSU gear, and it's just like I love it because
we just kind of proclaim, like, Hi, this is who
I belong to you. So it's cool. I have met
so many people all around the world, like just me
in the middle of nowhere, and they'll be like, oh,
hi are you, Hollywen. We're Georgia fans, and You're like,
oh my gosh, I can immediately connect with you. So
it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, I can understand that you are synonymous, especially with
college athletics. I am interested in your perspective because I
have one and I can share with with the audience.
But yours is because you've traveled to so many different schools,
so many different schools. How how different are the PAC
(38:11):
twelve schools that are joining the Big Ten From your.
Speaker 13 (38:13):
Perspective, Well, it's really kind of exciting. So when it
first all happened, I think I was like a lot
of traditionalists where I was like mourning the PAC twelve
and like what would this mean? And then two days
ago I went out to USC because my first one
of my first games as LSU USC opening weekend. So
I go out and I walk into the LA Coliseum
(38:36):
and you see signs, you know, billboards, these big electronic
billboards going around campus that says this is Big ten
country now, And I just kind of thought, like, oh,
this is going to be kind of crazy cool where
all of a sudden, Michigan is playing in the Coliseum
or Oregon is playing at the Big House, you know,
like you see LA is going to be playing at
(38:56):
Ohio Stadium, and it's just like there's there's going to
be these new matchups and new normal matchups that we
used to only ever get in post Sedons. I just
went to Archie Griffin's statue unveiling at the Rose Bowl yesterday,
and it was so cool because they're talking about you know,
USC or Ucla. This is their home football stadium, and
(39:19):
now they're going to be swinging in you know, Iowa,
Ohio State, you know, all these schools that would never
have played out there unless it was the Rose Bowls,
and it's just going to be like a regular season
college football team. So I think on the one hand,
we mourn a little bit of the lots of tradition
and the lots of what we've known. But then my brain,
I don't know why. It's just since we can kind
(39:40):
of seeing it in person out in LA, I was like, dang,
we're going to get some cool new matchups, and I
think it's going to be really exciting for fans.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
It will be, and I think the initial excitement, I
agree with you, like the Rose Bowl will be probably full.
You know, the question is for UCLA, are they going
to be like the Chargers where they're you know, they're
a road team in their own own home stadium.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
What about Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I mean that's a school you've covered a ton obviously,
they've been incredibly successful in the Big twelve. My argument
would be, like they were special and unique and dominant
in the Big tael football wise, and second in terms
of money spent, and they're really resonated as the dominant.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Team in the league.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Now they're just an SEC team that I think lacks
the same unique appeal.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
But again, I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You've experienced Oklahoma football far more up close and far
more often than I have. What's your opinion of of
how they'll navigate the waters of the SEC?
Speaker 13 (40:34):
Yeah, I think I disagree with you from this standpoint. Oklahoma.
Like I went down and visited Oklahoma. They had a
new kind of in zone facility, and they have all
these statues out and all these trophies out, and the
line of statues of their Heisman Trophy winner goes down
like an entire street. And I just think that Oklahoma
is probably one of the top two, maybe top four
(40:57):
brands in all of college sports. You know, their football
program was when we were growing up, Oklahoma football was it.
Like Barry Switzer was my idol growing up, one of
the most important people that I loved and was obsessed
with as a kid. I just think Oklahoma is a
big brand and I don't think they'll get swallowed up
(41:19):
by the SEC, because if you look at the SEC,
other than Alabama and maybe Georgia, they're just as big
at brand as anybody else in that league. So I
think that they maybe are going to take some time.
I think from a recruiting standpoint, they've got to get
bigger upfront. My Onwly criticism would be their offensive and
defensive lines have to be bigger, have to be deeper,
and have to be more dominant for them to really
(41:40):
succeed in the SEC. But I think as far as
interest and name brand, they've already got it and they're
going to be exciting and trust me, Alabama fans, Georgia fans,
LSU fans are going to love going to Norman because
their game day is a special atmosphere and it's going
to be a new, unique game day atmosphere that SEC
(42:02):
fans have not been used to.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Holy Road joining us Ah, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'll just.
Speaker 13 (42:08):
Say it'll be different than what they've experienced.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
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C D twenty four on Friday, August thirtieth, that's the
day before college football kicks off. It's also the twentieth
anniversary of College Colors Days. You mentioned Utah, and of
course Utah and Colorado Colorado going back to what was
(42:33):
the Big eight now Big twelve, and of course the
Big twelve has expanded. Utah has all the substance, Colorado
has all the style.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
What do you think their entrance into the Big twelve
will be?
Speaker 13 (42:43):
Like, I think number one, Utah has been really successful
in the Pac twelve. I think they surprised a lot
of people the last couple of years. You know, they
went back to back Pack twelve championships, went to back
to back Rose Bowl. I don't know that a lot
of people would have had that on their bingo card
when Utah joined the Pac twelve. So now they get
into the Big twelve and I'm like, I think Utah
can be dominant. I really think what Kyle Whittingham's built there,
(43:07):
the guys that they have coming back, I mean Cam
Rising is like twenty seven thousand years old or something.
You know, it's crazy, but he's going to be what
the most experienced quarterback in college football, so I think
that they're going to make noise when they come in.
I do think Colorado will be improved. They had to
get better upfront. They have a special quarterback. I think
that they can be special if they get the protection
(43:29):
that they need up front, because Standards is the real
deal at quarterback, and they've got some special players around him.
So you know, it takes time. I think you know this.
It always takes time to build depth and experience in
the trenches. And now that you can kind of go
out and tay guys to come in and get better quickly,
I think that Colorado will be that.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Palli, you are the best. I really appreciate join us.
We look forward to seeing your big old smile all
across the college landscape. You just you bring joy, you
bring information, You're obviously excellent interviews. It's it's it's an
honor to catch up with you. Thanks so much for
joining us on behalf of Fanatics.
Speaker 13 (44:04):
You too, I miss seeing you all the time in
our Big twelve basketball country, but good to talk to
you here.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, you You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
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(44:33):
you've been back and forth to Wisconsin several times. You're
a huge obviously Ohio State fan. You know, like when
you go to the Midwest, like it's almost you're almost
dressing poorly if you're not repping.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Your school on a plane or at a barbecue.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Whereas if you're out in LA, like unless you're like
an SC guy and only SC guys only wear SC
stuff when they're doing well.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Outside of that, you're like, why are you? Why are
you wearing your college stuff.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
It's actually one of my favorite things at airports is
when you're walking pas all these terminals and you see
all these flights going to different spots. You see a
lot of different team gear, both college and pro as well.
But it's it's always unique to see on who is
who is reppin' what? Like, I even remember you brought
up Wyoming a little bit earlier and seeing a flight
(45:17):
that went to Laramie and just seeing about, you know,
three or four Wyoming sweatshirts. If you're headed to Wisconsin,
you're maybe going to see some Badger stage. You're going
to see some packers stuff and go first you're going
to see well, not to Wisconsin, but there's some.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
There's some golfers that live that live close there. Right,
there's some ex patriots. There's one Ohio State fan you
that live in from the Star. Yeah, you'll you'll feel
some You'll see some buck stuff as well. I think
that the college stuff you see more college you see
more visor and polo or as pro as the jersey,
right that that that's the distinction.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
You will see college jerseys.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
But by and large, like you're going to a tailgate,
right you come back from a game, or you're just
traveling around, like very normal if you're from Oklahoma to
wear an o U shirt or an OSU shirt whatever,
just like on a daily basis, whereas it's not normal
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
It's not normal in New York. It's a very big distinction.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
And then in protowns, right, you wear the pro jersey,
but you only wear that like if you're going to
the game.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
I will say, I'm always envious of the ivy leaguers
that are like Harvard Law, you know, like like that
is that is the ultimate flex.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
That is a flex. Do you know how you know
somebody went to Harvard or somebody goes to Harvard they
tell you, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Or they're wearing it or they're wearing it again, like
can't blame them. On the other hand, you're like, yeah,
did you you know to Harvard?
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Did you know?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
It's such a It's such a flex.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It is such a flex. It is such a flex.
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You know what week it is. It's the week before
game week, which is actually game week week zero in
(00:45):
college football. Right, it's week zero, which is super which
is super we weird because it's actually week one.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's like preboarding a plane. You want to get on
a plane. Before you board a plane, how do you
how does that all work? Not really sure, doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This is a game week. This is I think it's
gonna be a really good show.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
By the way, we'll talk some Caitlin Clark, Holly row
will join us here in about twenty five minutes. Gets
you ready for the college football season. And boy, there
is one name as a rookie starting quarterback there. Everybody's
just trying to convince us is better than the rest.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'll see.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I'll tell you why I need some convincing coming up next,
but let's start with this. Speaking of quarterbacks, you know,
a couple of years ago, Brian Flores was fired by
the Miami Dolphins, and it was during a time in
which there were other minority candidates for head coaching jobs
(01:43):
in the NFL, and there were a paucity of black
head coaches, and many people said that Flora's being fired
and oh yeah, oh, by the way, Flora's being told
by Bill Belichick, who was getting the Giants job before
he ever interviewed for the Giants job, was seen as
some sort of racism, and at the time I tried
to inform people how comical and ludicrous those assertions were,
(02:08):
mostly because if you knew who he was working for
in Miami, his entire front office is black, and if
you read the reports and talk to people and understood
that he came from the Belichick Tree, you knew how
all this thing was kind of sort of going down.
Then you're like, okay, well, why didn't he get a
(02:30):
shot with the New York Giants. You know they already
picked the white coach, they brought him in.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, No, that's not how it works.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And this is where I can give although it's only
the last three months, I can give you the reality
of how it works in coaching. The reality is that
when Wyoming came open, everyone and their brother, myself included,
knew that Sundance Wicks, who preceded me at Green Bay,
would be the next head coach there. So it didn't
(03:00):
matter who they interviewed and who they talked to. Sun
Dances from Wyoming came on the staff and had been
a head coach previous to Green Bay and was a
head coach at Green Bay and turned him from four
wins to eighteen wins.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It was an absolute no brainer, right.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And if you look at the New York Giants, John
Marra is really close to Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick didn't
tell him not to interview for the job. He just
told him who was ultimately going to get the job. Why,
Because the Bills were the offense, and the change in
Josh Allen was so apparent that you wanted that offensive
(03:40):
coordinator be your guy. Right you had you want to
draft a new quarterback, You had to have a new system.
The quarterback whispered, that's who you're going to pick, as
opposed to Brian Flores, who had major trouble a new
offensive coordinator every year, couldn't get along with the offensive
coordinators apparently couldn't get out along with the front office.
And then he clearly did not think that to a
(04:02):
tongue of Ioloa was good enough. But because Brian Flores
sued the league for discrimination, and because Brian Flores hasn't
gotten a job since, despite the fact he was an
outstanding defensive coordinator going back to his time short time
with the Newton Patriots, there was this overall sense of, well,
(04:22):
he got fired because of racism. To a tongue of
Iolawa is Hawaiian. He's of Polynesian descent, and I only
tell you that because you know that. But remember, you
have an all black front office. You have a Polynesian
quarterback who was selected number four in the draft. Some
(04:42):
people believe that the Miami Dolphins wanted to lose games
to make sure they got to a tongue of ioloa.
And oh yeah, by the way, Brian Flores has echoed
that I think everybody knew that to be the case.
But if you want to know why he lost the job,
take a listen to Tua and what he said to
Dan LeBatard.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To put it in simplest terms, if you woke up
every morning and I told you you suck at what
you did, that you don't belong doing what you do,
that you shouldn't be here, that this guy should be here,
that you haven't earned this right, and then you have
(05:20):
somebody else come in and tell you, dude, you are
the best fit for this, Like you are accurate, you
are the best. Whatever you are, this you are that.
Like how would it make you feel listening to one
or the other? You see what I'm saying, and then
you hear it. You hear it regardless of what it is,
the good or the bad, and you hear it more
(05:41):
and more. You start to actually believe that, I don't
care who you are, you can be the president of
the United States. You have a terrible person that's telling
you things that you don't want to hear or that
you probably shouldn't be hearing.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You're going to start to believe that about yourself. Remember
what he said.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And again I do believe that he was just going
and ranting, but he said a terrible person, that's how
he described Brian Flores, and that he killed his confidence.
And look, when you're coaching, confidence is actually job number one.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's a really hard thing.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And players today are different than players of if you're
in your forties or older our era, right the old
break them down, build them back up. But in professional
sports it's almost unheard of, with the exception of the Patriots.
And here therein lies the problem with so many former
Patriots assistants, so many of them where they walk in
(06:46):
and they carry themselves as if they're Bill Belichick, as
if they're Bill Belichick, not understanding that Bill Belichick had
earned that respect over twenty plus years of success and
had just the right player in a Tom Brady, to
coach in just the right way. He was toughest on
Tom Brady, but Tom Brady could take it. And oh yeah,
(07:10):
by the way, Tom Brady was always already accomplished, so
too is Bill Belichick. So so many of these guys
have gone down and done their Belichick impression and he
doesn't work. Then you factor in that you have a
completely different generation of player and you have a really
smart player in a TUA who when you're smart.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You can also be sensitive to where you listen to guys.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
When a guy says you suck, they turn and go really,
whereas hardcourt dudes say you suck and they say I'm
gonna prove to you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You have to know him.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
The mentality of each player, at the confidence level of
each player. I'll give you an example. When I played
in college, my backcourt mate this guy named Joe Atkins. Okay,
you could tell Joe whatever you wanted. You could take
him out, you could yell at him, you could tell
me he didn't know what a good chot was. When
Joe got back of the game and he's felt any
(08:03):
sort of light that ball was going up, he had unmistakable,
undeniable self confidence. I did not did not, And you know,
if you go back and you watch my college, I'm like,
why did't you shoot your one up? Because I was
scared to get taken out of the game, and you
can't ultimately succeed that way. But in the short term,
(08:23):
you try and be a pleaser, You try and please
your coach. Tuua, he starts smart dude, he starts question himself.
Maybe I do suck, Maybe I'm not good enough, maybe
I should have imposter syndrome. The point is that your
ability to maintain the respect of your quarterback, to get
the best out of him, to coach him hard but fair,
(08:47):
that is usually what determines your success in the National
Football League. And for anyone who said Brian Flores was
fired or hasn't gotten any of these jobs because of
the color of his in that simply means they haven't
called Miami because this is what they have told everybody
without saying it on camera. Another front office is killed
(09:09):
Brian Flores and Tua only did because of the juxtaposition
of Mike McDaniel now with how he was coached previously
and what works for him. But there's so much here
in that story, right. It's the truth about Flores. It's
why those Belichick guys haven't succeeded. It's why Mike McDaniels
(09:31):
is succeeding. It's the new age of player and how
they have to be coached and it's confidence, which is
just as important as conditioning and as culture. Those are
the three big season if you want to win in sports.
If you destroy somebody's confidence, you're destroying their game and
the break them down. Building back up that era is gone.
(09:54):
It takes a really special kid, a really special person
to accept that level of crit and you don't have
the time to build him back up like you used
to back when kids would go to college for four
and five years. But good for Tua, tough for Flores,
good luck getting a head coaching job now when you
(10:17):
were called a terrible person by two I Tako bylow Yeah,
Dann Buyer, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know the only thing about this that just strikes
me as odd as the timing of it. And usually
when you get the last laugh or the maybe you
win a super Bowl and then a lot of stuff
comes out afterwards because you've proved everyone wrong. I get
the sense, and I'm curious in what you think. Does
he say it now because he got the contract? Sure,
(10:45):
you know, like but then you wonder, all right, what
are the goals? Like was it winning the Super Bowl?
Was that what he was going to come out? Was
it getting paid? When was this actually going to was
it when he retired, and now we found out that
it comes out after he gets it's the big contract
where he feels like like he's now been validated. And
I find I find it interesting. And maybe because of
(11:06):
the glowing remarks that he made about Mike McDaniel and
what they've got going on in Miami, he felt that
them giving him the contract is another reason to to
show a positive light on that crew. But I just
find it interesting that it's he does this after he
gets the contract, and maybe not winning a Lombardi or
winning an MVP or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, No, he definitely did the how you like me now?
And I mean he that one is a that's a
heavy weight around the neck of Brian Flores.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But I would also.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Commend to on waiting to just the right way and
and and selling it at just the right I mean,
giving us I think way more in terms of honesty
than anybody else would have in regards to what really
went down, you know, because a lot of times when
you have something negative, say be like, you know, there's
some things that went on I disagree with some ways
(11:59):
that like no, no, no, he's said he's a terrible person.
He told me, I sucked it. Everything he told me
I didn't belong here, and it started to wear on me.
I just I agree with you. The timing is like, oh,
because you got the contract. But I do think he's
given us context everything on why he believes he's been
so successful recently as opposed to why it was so
(12:20):
awfully on.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's a very fair point. You make, very fair point.
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to figure out how do we put together the weekend,
and I don't know if we'll be able to do
this once NFL starts or college football starts Monday, because
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there's just so many storylines.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Maybe we will, I don't. We haven't really decided yet.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But we're four very different people, from Sam who's like
mister WNBA, to Jason who's mister Dodger, to Dan who
obviously has his own show on Sundays Plush Locked In
on golf, and on and on both college and pro football,
to all of my various kind of things which are
in my mental rolodecks.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We all have different things for checking out. Let's get
to what we love from the weekend. Well, we hated
from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
God? I love you and what did you.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Hate these Claire hay Is, Let's start with you, Jay
stew some of you love from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Doug.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Every time I hear this song, it reminds me of
every time I hear this song, it reminds me of
my favorite Christmas movie Love. Actually, if you haven't seen
it once, you do see it, you'll see what I mean.
Great song by the Beatles. What I love from the
weekend is Doug. This is the fourth anniversary. This weekend
(14:20):
is the fourth anniversary of maybe the most fascinating, remarkable,
slash funny piece of sound. Now I hate saying it's
funny because it cost somebody his livelihood, But Tom Brenneman
went to a break. He was doing the Reds Royals
baseball game four years ago and he made a regrettable
(14:41):
comment about gay people on a hot mic when he
thought they had gone to a break, didn't go to
a break, and it was live over air. So he
came back from the break and he said this.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
I pride myself and think of myself as a man
of faith. As there's a drive in a deep left
field by Costiganos, it will be a home run and
so that'll make it a four to nothing ball game.
I don't know if I'm to be putting on this
headset again. I don't know if it's going to be
for the Reds. I don't know if it's going to
(15:17):
be for my bosses at Fox. I'm going to apologize
for the people who sign my paycheck, for the Reds,
for Fox Sports, Ohio, for the people I work with,
for anybody that I've offended here tonight. I can't begin
to tell you how deeply sorry I am. That is
not who I am and never has been. And I'd
(15:38):
like to think maybe I could have some people that
they could back that up. I am very very sorry,
and I beg for your forgiveness.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Now. What I love about this, by the way, I
love the way that the story has grown since then
that Nick Castillano's seems to be a guy who hits
a home run when there was a tragic happening in
the world somewhere, and I think that's funny. I hate
that Tom brennanman hasn't been on the air in four years.
That sucks, But I think that this is really one
(16:13):
of the all time greats. This is one of the
all time sound bites, and I wanted to celebrate it
today on the show.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
There's a drive by castianos is I mean, who doesn't
know that saying?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Now you know where it comes from? Right? All right?
Dan Byer sent me a love for the weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
You know, it's funny because this is a scenario where
when you do good news or bad news, like I
would rather do my hate first and then my love
because it just syncs up with my weekend. Sure, but
sports wise, I think all of us who play the
game of golf can understand. Just did not have it
on the range on Saturday, And Doug, you know next
week I'll be back in America's dairy land playing a
(16:59):
bunch of golf here, there and everywhere. And yesterday had
a bit of a breakthrough and so to go through
the struggles of Saturday doesn't mean I'm curing the ball
by any means, but it was a heck of a
lot better than what Saturday was. Saturday when I even
ripped the whole in my glove because I was messing
with my grips so much, it was it was atrocious.
(17:21):
But to have something come through positively on Sunday after
going through the depths of my you know, despair on
the range on Saturday, is a very very good feeling.
Who knows how I'll play next week, but I at
least felt better yesterday than I did the day before,
and that is a that is a big thing when
you are just searching and you're like, I don't even
(17:43):
know how to hold this club right now. It was
much better yesterday.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Okay, what about you there, Sammy, Well, I'd be lying
if I said that I didn't love the weekend that
Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
Had WNBA schedule resuming, and she was well rested and
came out there and just did about as well as
you would hope she would do, and breaking the rookie
assist record Sunday.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You listen, you can't lose to.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
A phoenix Mercury team on Friday with Diana Tarassi coming
back from the Olympics winning her twenty second gold medal. Joking,
of course, but you couldn't lose to her. That would
be a really bad look. So they took care of
business Friday night, took care of business Sunday. Caitlyn Clark,
she got her name back on the tip of our
tongues here in the sporting world. So that's my love
(18:38):
of the weekend. Kaitlyn Clark's big weekend for the WNBA.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
But it's the way she played. Yeah, we love she
played on Friday is what all of us tuned in
to see her play in college.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
You love the ton ton wagging, and you love the
you love the grit, You love the Squagoun't it.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
In your opponent's face. It is the swag. It's I
love that she knows most people in the league can't
stand her, and she's gonna rub it in their face
because she's getting more comfortable, and I love that about her.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I personally love that the Atlanta Falcons have shut down
Michael Pennix because none of this makes any sense, and
I've had people go like, well, I'm with the the
Atlanta thing like it, Yeah, it's not that big a
deal or whatever, like what that somehow they won because
they made a trade. Like they have two quarterbacks, one
(19:35):
that people think should be a starter as a rookie
and one who has been probably the most overlooked, solid
pro bowl level quarterback in the last two decades in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Like Kirk Cousins only last year started to earn people's
respect because that Quarterback show, he's on basis show for
six thousand yards, and like, you sign him, and then
you draft a guy in the first round. Everybody in
the first round except for Jo Love, plays right away.
No reason Jordan Love didn't play right away was one,
there was Aaron Rodgerson.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Two.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Jordan Love had only played two years in college. Michael
Pennix played five years in college, Like he's a finished product.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And then to add to it to not play him
in the preseason where you give him reps. And I
continue to think that Dan Byer is onto something here
where they just didn't want they just didn't want him
to people be cheering for Michael Pennix. It's just such
bizarre handling of such what I believe would be a
simple situation. You sign Kirk Cousins, you draft a developmental quarterback, fine,
(20:34):
but not one of the first round. That's just doesn't
make any sense. And the more we see it, the
more Atlanta exposed itself as as a front office that
doesn't know what they're doing. They may win, but they're
gonna win in spite of not because of their front office.
What do you hate from the weekend?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Let's start with our resident hater, Jason Stewart, Jase dou.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
It's actually it's the it's buttoning up what Sam loved
about the weekend. So the other side of the Caitlin
Clark love fest is the uh, the bitterness from the
players and coaches around the league. This was a response
from some Seattle Storm player named Jewel Something or Jewel Lloyd.
(21:23):
The actual question is, talk about the impact that Caitlin
Clark has had as a rookie in the w n
B A.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
I'm gonna talk about our rookies. Nikas in great, she's
an awesome putting her work in. I think our George
Jordan has been phenomenal to her second year.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Of her growth.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
You know, our focus is our team on and what
we need to do as a community to be better.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Now.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
I don't know who the commissioner is for the WNBA.
I know she wears weather jackets a lot. That's what
I know. That's that about her. I would find this
player and I would give mandatory media training on how
to re message Caitlin Clark on the WNBA. You have
a chance in this moment to promote the golden goose
(22:11):
of the league, the person that's going to make Jewel
Lloyd much more money in her next contract. Just beat
your rass on the court and you should have something
gracious to say about that. The way she chose to
handle this as a finable offense, Doug.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I mean, they just every person in business, in the
business of sports I talked to says the exact same thing,
the exact same thing, which is, what are these women doing?
They're just the dumbest people ever in regards to how
you run a business.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
They're competitive, though, I mean, I kind of don't blame her,
like she's she's tired of hearing about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's like, hey, we.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Have all these people showing up to games that they
never showed up to before.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
We also play in the WNBA. We we've got talent too,
We put up stats. But you know, everyone wants to
talk about Kaitlyn and that's wonderful, but I get it
annoying and aggravating the players because you got to have
the rest of the players, the rest of the teams
around her in order for Kaitlin to flourish. So it's
competitive league, man, They're tired of it. There's such an
(23:14):
easy way of handling it as well.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You can talk about Kaitlyn Clark and then allow your
rookies to get some shine to say, like, I love
our rookies as well, but they choose not to do that. Yes, correct,
they know she's good.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
I mean, so it's just like, yeah, we're gonna avoid
talking about her completely.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
All right, Dan Buyer some you hate it from the weekend.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Man, Aaron Judge continuing to make headlines everywhere. No, just
kidding what I hated. And this is kind of a
weird spin on the hate. But props to Discovery Channel
for this six part limited series that came to an
end in the eye of the storm, and you couldn't
(23:56):
get this sort of stuff. I don't know. Fifteen years ago. Now,
when a storm or any like natural disaster hits, everybody's
got their phone on them and immediately starts recording. And
it was just unbelievable footage week after week from these
devastating storms. Last the finale that that just wrapped up
(24:19):
in the latest episode where these tornadoes they hit Texas
and Kansas just you know, they have the Iowa ones
a couple of weeks ago that I think we talked about.
But I hate that this is over, that there's not
going to be a new episode. I'm glad people that
there aren't more storms that are that are going to
be kidding and that people were damaged in dealing with this.
But it was just so well done and just the
(24:42):
this footage that they put together. If you're a weather fan,
like this is this series was a can't miss series.
And I'm just said that it's it's come to an end.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
I like that. That's see, that's a great way to
do it. If you don't really hate something, you just
hate something that you loved coming to an end, that's
a great way to do this. Kind of skirting the
rules a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, but it's a gray area, allow it. It's a
gray area, but I'll allow it, all right. What about
you there, Sammy.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
I just want to mention one thing speaking of storms, So,
Hurricane Debbie, I believe, just kind of went through Florida
and big shocker, like millions of dollars worth of cocaine
washed up on some beach. It's just so funny, like
it's just it's just always Florida. Man, I don't know,
it's just Hurricane Debbie passes through and they're like, oh,
what's this all right, sounds.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Like one of the positives of Quama change.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
Yeah, more drugs washing up on the beach. Great, my
my hate of the weekend. And it's like it's it's
also with the side of you know, entertaining factor, but
it's Tyreek Hill getting on social media on Sunday and
challenging no Alliles to a fifty yard dash. Oh this
is just so stupid because I kind of agree with
Noah Lyles, like he's being very literal in the sense
(25:57):
of when you're a Super Bowl champion, you're a world champion,
only in the sense that you're the world is the
United States. So I get no Alliles being like, don't
call yourself a world champion. Unless you compete against other people,
you know, in the world of the greater globe. But
then I also, you know, Tyreek Hill, he should be
focused on the upcoming season and not not this rubbish.
(26:20):
So it's funny, it's entertaining, but also like you know,
don't worry about no Alliles.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Let him have his his shine right now. I have
a hate that's connected with Iowa. Sam. If you want
to say that my other note was passed along.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Especially because it's about Sam, I think you should be
allowed to talk about.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So this past weekend, Noah Kent, guy who plays golf
for the University of Iowa another note, had a great
run to the final of the US Amateur at hazel
Teine in Minnesota. And on Friday I got the you know,
the email from the USGA that's saying Kent is advanced
through the quarterfinals. I forwarded that to Sam Iowa. Sam,
(27:01):
this kid went to Iowa. I thought that he would,
he would take an interest and maybe follow And then
when I followed up with him yesterday about it, did
you you don't even read the email?
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Sam? Like you did read it? I have it right
here in front of him. Did not even like hit
his radar or gloss over it. He has done Iowa
based segments on shows on this network before, where he
would touch on things that were happening at UNI and
Drake and Grennell and all these places. And I give
him an Iowa Hawkeye doing great things in golf and
(27:33):
he just completely ignores it. And by the way, Noah
Kent gets to go to the Masters because he finished
in the made it to the final match of the
US Amateur. So that's a pretty good, pretty good deal. Well,
the name Noah Kent will be on my radar from
here on out.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Dan, I do appreciate that I had a little bit
of an unorthodox week last week, taking my weekend on
Thursday Friday, So I'm sorry I missed that he's speaking of.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Well, it was in your inbox.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It was.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
It was.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It's still there, and I know it's been covered some,
but I don't know if it's been covered enough.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Do you guys see the boyse stage story.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
There's a quarterback named Maddick is it Maddix Madson who's
five ten, two hundred pounds, just an average looking kid
from American Fork, Utah, and he beat out Malchi Nelson.
Who's you know six three sixty four former top five
quarterback prospect in the country, and I just look, this
(28:30):
is this is part of the hard part about college
athletics and the really sad part about high school rankings. Right,
Malachi Nelson, they were down I think twenty one or
twenty four to nothing at halftime of the CIF semi
finals in high school.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
And I don't know if it's his dad or.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
His parents, they pulled him from the game for fear,
you know, they want to protect him for USC. Never
played for USC, transfer goes to the boys State, gets
beat out by a guy no one's ever heard of. Again, Like,
I'm not pouring salt in a wound here, I'm just saying,
like this is there's actually a good story to the Hey,
whoever is good enough to win for us now doesn't
matter to your rankings. The bad part is that it's
(29:11):
such a huge part of high school kids' lives the internet, right,
and it creates this false sense of how good somebody
really is in the end, in these high school rankings.
And he was the king of these seven on seven
stuff and show up in like super bright outfits, and
he had swag, had had had a confidence to him.
(29:34):
Turns out it's more arrogance and it doesn't work. So
I just I hate it for him. But I hate
that the wake up call came after his second school.
And I hate how the disproportionate way we look at
at athletes based upon people ranking things that don't really
know what.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
They're ranking about. That's what's really it. Hen That's love
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Speaker 2 (30:41):
So.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Caitlin Clark helped the Indiana Fever get another win last night,
ninety two seventy five over Seattle Storms. She break broke
the WNBA single season Ricky mark for assists. She's averaging
eight point three per game. Tisha Pinchero was the previous
record holder with to twenty four. She had nine for
(31:02):
two thirty two. I believe they're playing more games now,
so whatever, but she did break it early in the season.
Remember they beat THEIX Phoenix Mercury ninety eight eighty nine
in Indy. Clark had twenty nine in that game. She
al Sa had ten assists in five rebounds. She was
asked about a technical foul she got.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
During the game.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Seattle player Juwel Lloyd was asked, We'll get to that.
Her response in a second, but here's Caitlyn Clark. When
I asked about that technical foul.
Speaker 12 (31:30):
I got a technical for basically being mad at myself
because I missed the three and then I went and
hit the backboard, and he told me it was disrespectful
to the game of basketball.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So I don't know.
Speaker 12 (31:38):
It reminded me of the technical that I got in
college where I said, damn it, where it's like a
personal frustration, had nothing to do with the REFI had
nothing to do with other teams. It was just because
I'm a competitor and I felt like I should have
been making more shots. But I think he fired me
up to continue to.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Play a lot harder. I thought we got a lot better.
Speaker 12 (31:53):
I needed that, so I want to thank him for that.
But overall, I thought once we got to that media
timeout around minutes in the third quarter, I.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Thought we all kind of just took a breath. It
was a little.
Speaker 12 (32:03):
Chaos there for two and a half minutes, and I
think I could have done a better job of kind
of regame I'm cool. But that's like the fire passion
that just gets me going. It's just finding a way
to channel that and use that. I thought I did
a really good job with that. At the the third
and the fourth.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Quarter, here's a Skyler Diggins kind of bumped shoulders with
her and there's some kerfuffle between the coaches. Here's Juel Lloyd,
who plays for Seattle Storm. She was asked what she
thinks about the impact Caitlin Clark has had on the
WNB as rookie.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
I'm gonna talk about our rookies. Nika has been great,
She's been awesome putting her work in. I think our
Jordan has been phenomenal to her second year of her growth.
You know, our focus is our team and what we
need to do as a community to be better.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
This question.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
The level of pettiness in the women's game is surprising
to most people, not surprising to me. I told people
this a long time ago, Like the number one thing
holding women back and broadcasting is other women. They just
cattiness and pettiness. And the number one thing holding back
to the WNBA this season is cattiness and pettiness. Cattiness
(33:07):
and pettiness. I mean, it's just comical how they like.
I don't want to talk about her, so I'm going
to talk about her own rookies.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
The crowds are massive, she's playing incredibly well. It costs
nothing to give somebody a compliment and to go, hey,
the Caitlin Clark thing is awesome, and we want to
take all that popularity and have people learn about our rookies.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
They just can't do it, can't do it. We got
to Holly row in a second.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
First, let's get to a Dan Byer get a quick
update and everything going on sports, Danny woy.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Got you know, I will say the conversation that we
had Friday about the NFL and Caitlin Clark a spurt
of topic I did on my show yesterday with Carrie
Rhodes in talking about the WNBA playoffs, which we mentioned
starts September twenty second. Carrie, former All pro, a starter
from day one in the NFL, chose to watch Caitlyn
(34:10):
Clark in the playoffs over six of the seven early
window games in Week three of that NFL season. So
on September twenty second, when it's Week three, we went
through the entire schedule and of the early window the
one o'clock Eastern time games, Carrie Rhodes chose to watch
Caitlin Clark in the playoffs as opposed to the NFL action.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Come on, do you believe?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I don't know it was surprising you. I thought Texans
Vikings he was completely down with watching football that he said, No,
that wasn't the case. Bears Colts was the only game
that he ended up saying that he would watch over
Caitlin Clark in the playoffs. The late window a little
different because you have Ravens, Cowboys, Niners, Rams, Dolphins, Seahawks, Heck, Lions, Arizona.
(34:56):
Good open window, but that playoff weekend and it'll be
interesting to see with the w NBA puts Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And she
is synonymous, synonymous with sports really really of course, having
been a reporter for ESPN for years, she's covered the
NFL college football, men's college basketball, women's college basketball, the WNBA.
She's also covered the Jazz for the Jazz Local TV Network.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
She does it all.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
She's holdy row okay back and of course she's here
to talk about College Color Days, which is back for
its twentieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Holly, how are you? I am so great? How are you?
I'm good? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'm busiting one armed paperhanger, as are you? College Color Days?
And I know that Finax is offering twenty five percent
on all orders with the code c D twenty four
on Friday, August thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
What was it just you where your college colors? Is
that as simple as it is?
Speaker 13 (35:54):
Yeah, it's really cool. So College Colors Day is the
day before kind of college football kicks for real. So
August thirtieth, they've been doing this for twenty years, and
they're just kind of like telling everybody out there, like, hey,
go to work being your you know, I'm sitting here
in my Utah gear or you would go in your
Oklahoma state gear. It's like, today's the day where you
tell everybody, here's who I'm going to be cheering for.
(36:16):
I'll season long, this is the tribe belong to you,
and this is who I'm rolling with. So it's kind
of a fun way to get people psyched for the season.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
It's interesting because there's very much a like that's the
difference between the Midwest, the South, and like and most
of the coastal states is you know, Northeast where you
and I have spent a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Of time, or even in LA.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Like you, if you're in the Midwest and you get
on an airplane or you're going out for the night,
it's very very normal to throw on your college gear
and it's not inappropriate at all, Whereas if you're in LA,
you're in New York and you throw on your Alabama
you know, pullover or your hoodie.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Like people like are you going to a game, what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
It's very interesting in terms of the region, you know,
kind of a dress code if you will.
Speaker 13 (37:03):
Yeah, I think particularly in SEC country, it's like your
daily outfit really, like you might be in some takis
and an auburn shirt every day of your life if
you live in the South. But it's so cute because like,
I've been traveling this summer all over the world. I
got back from the Paris Olympics, and it's so crazy
to me. I'll be like on the top of a
wall in Dubrovnik, on a medieval city and there's people
(37:27):
rocking their Iowa gear or their Auburn gear or their
LSU gear, and it's just like I love it because
we just kind of proclaim, like, Hi, this is who
I belong to you. So it's cool. I have met
so many people all around the world, like just me
in the middle of nowhere, and they'll be like, oh,
hi are you, Hollywen. We're Georgia fans, and You're like,
oh my gosh, I can immediately connect with you. So
it's really fun.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, I can understand that you are synonymous, especially with
college athletics. I am interested in your perspective because I
have one and I can share with with the audience.
But yours is because you've traveled to so many different schools,
so many different schools. How how different are the PAC
(38:11):
twelve schools that are joining the Big Ten From your.
Speaker 13 (38:13):
Perspective, Well, it's really kind of exciting. So when it
first all happened, I think I was like a lot
of traditionalists where I was like mourning the PAC twelve
and like what would this mean? And then two days
ago I went out to USC because my first one
of my first games as LSU USC opening weekend. So
I go out and I walk into the LA Coliseum
(38:36):
and you see signs, you know, billboards, these big electronic
billboards going around campus that says this is Big ten
country now, And I just kind of thought, like, oh,
this is going to be kind of crazy cool where
all of a sudden, Michigan is playing in the Coliseum
or Oregon is playing at the Big House, you know,
like you see LA is going to be playing at
(38:56):
Ohio Stadium, and it's just like there's there's going to
be these new matchups and new normal matchups that we
used to only ever get in post Sedons. I just
went to Archie Griffin's statue unveiling at the Rose Bowl yesterday,
and it was so cool because they're talking about you know,
USC or Ucla. This is their home football stadium, and
(39:19):
now they're going to be swinging in you know, Iowa,
Ohio State, you know, all these schools that would never
have played out there unless it was the Rose Bowls,
and it's just going to be like a regular season
college football team. So I think on the one hand,
we mourn a little bit of the lots of tradition
and the lots of what we've known. But then my brain,
I don't know why. It's just since we can kind
(39:40):
of seeing it in person out in LA, I was like, dang,
we're going to get some cool new matchups, and I
think it's going to be really exciting for fans.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
It will be, and I think the initial excitement, I
agree with you, like the Rose Bowl will be probably full.
You know, the question is for UCLA, are they going
to be like the Chargers where they're you know, they're
a road team in their own own home stadium.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
What about Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I mean that's a school you've covered a ton obviously,
they've been incredibly successful in the Big twelve. My argument
would be, like they were special and unique and dominant
in the Big tael football wise, and second in terms
of money spent, and they're really resonated as the dominant.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Team in the league.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Now they're just an SEC team that I think lacks
the same unique appeal.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
But again, I could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You've experienced Oklahoma football far more up close and far
more often than I have. What's your opinion of of
how they'll navigate the waters of the SEC?
Speaker 13 (40:34):
Yeah, I think I disagree with you from this standpoint. Oklahoma.
Like I went down and visited Oklahoma. They had a
new kind of in zone facility, and they have all
these statues out and all these trophies out, and the
line of statues of their Heisman Trophy winner goes down
like an entire street. And I just think that Oklahoma
is probably one of the top two, maybe top four
(40:57):
brands in all of college sports. You know, their football
program was when we were growing up, Oklahoma football was it.
Like Barry Switzer was my idol growing up, one of
the most important people that I loved and was obsessed
with as a kid. I just think Oklahoma is a
big brand and I don't think they'll get swallowed up
(41:19):
by the SEC, because if you look at the SEC,
other than Alabama and maybe Georgia, they're just as big
at brand as anybody else in that league. So I
think that they maybe are going to take some time.
I think from a recruiting standpoint, they've got to get
bigger upfront. My Onwly criticism would be their offensive and
defensive lines have to be bigger, have to be deeper,
and have to be more dominant for them to really
(41:40):
succeed in the SEC. But I think as far as
interest and name brand, they've already got it and they're
going to be exciting and trust me, Alabama fans, Georgia fans,
LSU fans are going to love going to Norman because
their game day is a special atmosphere and it's going
to be a new, unique game day atmosphere that SEC
(42:02):
fans have not been used to.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Holy Road joining us Ah, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'll just.
Speaker 13 (42:08):
Say it'll be different than what they've experienced.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Holey Road joining us here on the Doug Outlive show
on Fox Sports Trading behalf of Fanatics. They're offering twenty
five percent off on all orders with the code c
C D twenty four on Friday, August thirtieth, that's the
day before college football kicks off. It's also the twentieth
anniversary of College Colors Days. You mentioned Utah, and of
course Utah and Colorado Colorado going back to what was
(42:33):
the Big eight now Big twelve, and of course the
Big twelve has expanded. Utah has all the substance, Colorado
has all the style.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
What do you think their entrance into the Big twelve
will be?
Speaker 13 (42:43):
Like, I think number one, Utah has been really successful
in the Pac twelve. I think they surprised a lot
of people the last couple of years. You know, they
went back to back Pack twelve championships, went to back
to back Rose Bowl. I don't know that a lot
of people would have had that on their bingo card
when Utah joined the Pac twelve. So now they get
into the Big twelve and I'm like, I think Utah
can be dominant. I really think what Kyle Whittingham's built there,
(43:07):
the guys that they have coming back, I mean Cam
Rising is like twenty seven thousand years old or something.
You know, it's crazy, but he's going to be what
the most experienced quarterback in college football, so I think
that they're going to make noise when they come in.
I do think Colorado will be improved. They had to
get better upfront. They have a special quarterback. I think
that they can be special if they get the protection
(43:29):
that they need up front, because Standards is the real
deal at quarterback, and they've got some special players around him.
So you know, it takes time. I think you know this.
It always takes time to build depth and experience in
the trenches. And now that you can kind of go
out and tay guys to come in and get better quickly,
I think that Colorado will be that.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Palli, you are the best. I really appreciate join us.
We look forward to seeing your big old smile all
across the college landscape. You just you bring joy, you
bring information, You're obviously excellent interviews. It's it's it's an
honor to catch up with you. Thanks so much for
joining us on behalf of Fanatics.
Speaker 13 (44:04):
You too, I miss seeing you all the time in
our Big twelve basketball country, but good to talk to
you here.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, you You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
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(44:33):
you've been back and forth to Wisconsin several times. You're
a huge obviously Ohio State fan. You know, like when
you go to the Midwest, like it's almost you're almost
dressing poorly if you're not repping.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Your school on a plane or at a barbecue.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Whereas if you're out in LA, like unless you're like
an SC guy and only SC guys only wear SC
stuff when they're doing well.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Outside of that, you're like, why are you? Why are
you wearing your college stuff.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
It's actually one of my favorite things at airports is
when you're walking pas all these terminals and you see
all these flights going to different spots. You see a
lot of different team gear, both college and pro as well.
But it's it's always unique to see on who is
who is reppin' what? Like, I even remember you brought
up Wyoming a little bit earlier and seeing a flight
(45:17):
that went to Laramie and just seeing about, you know,
three or four Wyoming sweatshirts. If you're headed to Wisconsin,
you're maybe going to see some Badger stage. You're going
to see some packers stuff and go first you're going
to see well, not to Wisconsin, but there's some.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
There's some golfers that live that live close there. Right,
there's some ex patriots. There's one Ohio State fan you
that live in from the Star. Yeah, you'll you'll feel
some You'll see some buck stuff as well. I think
that the college stuff you see more college you see
more visor and polo or as pro as the jersey,
right that that that's the distinction.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
You will see college jerseys.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
But by and large, like you're going to a tailgate,
right you come back from a game, or you're just
traveling around, like very normal if you're from Oklahoma to
wear an o U shirt or an OSU shirt whatever,
just like on a daily basis, whereas it's not normal
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
It's not normal in New York. It's a very big distinction.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
And then in protowns, right, you wear the pro jersey,
but you only wear that like if you're going to
the game.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
I will say, I'm always envious of the ivy leaguers
that are like Harvard Law, you know, like like that
is that is the ultimate flex.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
That is a flex. Do you know how you know
somebody went to Harvard or somebody goes to Harvard they
tell you, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Or they're wearing it or they're wearing it again, like
can't blame them. On the other hand, you're like, yeah,
did you you know to Harvard?
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Did you know?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
It's such a It's such a flex.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It is such a flex. It is such a flex.
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