August 29, 2024 • 49 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the Colorado football program as they start their season Thursday night, and explains why he thinks Coach Prime is the Donald Trump of college football.
Doug welcomes Hall of Famer Champ Bailey onto the show to talk about Georgia, College Football, and what he is doing for kids with cancer.
Doug welcomes former NFL MVP Shaun Alexander to talk about his career and what he is doing for college football. Doug and the crew talk about the Ohtani bobbleheads.
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be welcome in. You have made it. You have made it.
Football seasons here the rest of the stuff, you know,
like we'll pretend like last week didn't happen. I know
Florida State want fans want that to happen. By the way,
I got my rapid radio here in my hand. This
thing is so cool. Breaker one nine, Breaker one nine
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this year the bandit come back right. I love this thing.
This thing is so good. We'll get to our rapid
radios reads a little bit later on the show, but
I have I think there's two people in the media
right now who in many ways parallel each other, and
they're trying to have the same type of success they've
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had previously in this field, which is not necessarily was
definitely not their primary focus coming out of college. Coach
Prime is the Donald Trump of college football and vice versa.
Two gigantic names, honestly, two gigantic names from the nineties,
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eighties and nineties who have achieved. Like, whatever you want
to say about our former president, he beat fifteen establisher
Republicans and Hillary Rodham Clinton to win the presidency of
the United States. That was an all time upset. So
he's actually achieved something previously. And we can say whatever
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we want about Jackson State and the level of competition.
They were the most dominant team in the HBCU world
and they dramatically change how we view Jackson State like overnight.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Trying to get back to that level for either is
going to be very difficult, And I think both are
similar in that, whether you like or dislike for whatever reason,
you can't turn it off. You know you're still watching.
And then they both have this kind of ingenious way
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of making any legitimate negative discussion into being about you
being negative and not about the actual discussion. Right, It's
like it's diabolical and brilliant that you know, Trump can
talk about all these things. It's like you help lead
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a riot on the Capitol after you lost the last election.
The same thing for Dion, like, hey, we're asking you
tough questions. You you said you wouldn't be hard to find,
and now you don't want us to find you. You
were the most flamboyant and talked about college football coach
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in the country last year, and he won four games,
Like people weren't rooting for you to win four games.
Now we get to a place to where you get
fatigue and you get worn down, and the act kind
of feels like I've seen this before, I know how
it ends, and I think you're getting some of that
with Donald Trump. I think you're getting a lot of
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that with coach Prime. So here's the question, not a
political question. Colorado kicks out their football season. They're taking
on North Dakota State really really well regarded one double
A team or whether they come FCS team, And I'm
just wondering, like, if I did an honest ratio, I
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think most of us will watch one you know you
have two players at Colorado who are two of at
least are perceived super elite players in the college game.
You'll watched last year even when they weren't good, but
especially when they were winning early and you were surprised.
I think this year's team will be better than last year.
But this year's schedule, especially pre dating when they get
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to the Big Twelve. You know, Colorado State on the
road and Nebraska on the road, as well as North
Dakota State at home, those are hard, hard games. Are
you watching to see Colorado win because you want to
be one of those? Hey, all these people are against
coach Prime. I'm with them sort of guys? Or do
you want to see them? I don't think there's anything
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in the middle. Samwhich is it for you? Do you
want to see him winner? Do you want to see
him lose?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I forgot about this fact. North Dakota State is coached
by former IOWA assistant Tim Polasek, and so I definitely
want to see him pull off the upset in Boulder
over the by excuse me, over the buffalo Bison.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Over the buffalo.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Bison, over the buffaloon.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Got a couple of trampling mascots for this game we do.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Is there a difference between a bison and a buffalo?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
There is. I couldn't tell you the minuscule anology differences,
but they are basically the same beast. They are, but
they might have slight differences.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All right, Jay stew are you rooting for? Do you
want coach Prime to win or lose?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Bison and buffalo are both large horned ox like animals
in the bevide family, but there are several differences between them.
Bison have humps, a large hump. Buffalo did not.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
No humps for the for the buffalo.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yep, So there it is. Lots of humps. All right,
learn something today. So here's here's my take on tonight.
Dion would have us believe, or he said this in
the past, that the reason why his program is disliked
is because we don't like brash, colorful, uh in your
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face black men. Right. He has said that. No, No,
it's not that. It's how you coach your kids to play.
I don't think it's good sportsmanship. It's easy to hate
they they they go overboard with rubbing it in and taunting.
That was the problem last year. Had nothing happened Nike.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
What did Nike do? How about Nike? Miike has made
Shadeur a centerpiece for their ad campaign. Okay, Meanwhile, the
picture of Shador is him holding up a watch which
is not Nike watch. And oh yeah, by the way,
it's douchebag material. That's what it is. Who does that?
It just is sorry, everybody thinks it. And and you
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know he may have gotten money from his nil. All
that stuff is because of his dad's name. Like, what
are we doing? You know, what are we doing? It's
like the kids showing up with brand new Jordan's to
the second day of sixth grade, acting like you know,
I made all this money, Like it's your dad's money.
What are you doing? Stop it anyway? Sorry, go ahead chasing.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So that was the reason why I drooted against them
last year, and I'm going to root against them this year.
It's because of the way they play. I think I
asked you or I told you usher he's going to
get one of his players killed on the on the field.
What was it the Colorado State game where there was
like an extra hit after the whistle or something that
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kind of of s talking by teams. You're dealing with
kids with a lot of pride, and when you shove
it in their faces like he does, like he coaches,
I think he's going to get one of his players
really hurt, including his son. So anyways, for all these reasons, I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Tuned in to watch, But you want to see him lose?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think that's the general I think most people think
that I just do. I just do And I again,
I totally understand if you're like, well, you know, he's
a success story. He's been successful. He's got us talking
about Colorado, caring about Colorado football. But you want all
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that attention, you want all that smoke, you get it,
you got to own it. And tonight I would say
eighty percent of the football world who's watching wants them
to lose, you know, because you're losing in North Dakota State.
That would be a little bit of come up and
what are you thinking about? Do you want to see
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Speaker 6 (09:22):
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Speaker 2 (09:32):
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Speaker 1 (09:38):
So excited for football tonight. Honestly, if you guys need me,
just text me or call me. Like, I will literally
be watching a bunch of football games. I'm excited. Speaking
of football games, Jalen Hurts, of course, had an MVP
like season going back two years ago before he was
injured struggle at the end of last year, they end
up to start to out ten to oh, they floundered
down the stretch. He said this on his radio hit
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this morning, talking about why he's taking more control this year.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
You know, I think in again, I think when you
look at this upcoming season and what you may have
seen from the years past is just different autonomy in
different places. You know, we had a great player Andrejason
Kelsey who took on a lot of responsibility, and result
of that, I was told not to worry about a
lot of things. My eagerness to learn and all of
that over the years, you know, kind of was halted
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because of who we act. But but not times are different,
and I'm excited for that journey.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, that was It's a weird way of expressing himself
in that way. You know, Hey, my eagerness to learn
was kind of halted when mean was halted, you know,
halted by what because other guys were already veterans and
Jason Kelce who is already a leader, So now you
have to be a leader. I don't know. I always
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feel like you either are you aren't a leader. If
you guys aren't connecting with you, you're not connecting with anymore.
And the mo on Jalen hurts his jailing is about jailing,
and guys do see through all all the other stuff
after a while. You know of the teams in the NFL,
which you could say, hey, I don't know way which
way this is going to go, but they have a
lot of talent. That's the Eagles number one team. All right,
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it's Doug alib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Of course,
he's a four time first team All Pro, second time,
I'm assuming you a four time second team All Pro.
And this guy was just an absolute star. Twelve team Pro,
twelve time Pro Bowl or fifteen season in the NFL,
eight time first or second team All Pro. And he's
in Atlanta because well the big college football game is
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in Atlanta, and he's there on behalf of the AFLEC
Cancer Center champ Bailey joins U in the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio Champ. How are you?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I am good, Doug?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
How are you good?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Man? I'm excited just even for tonight. Right. You got
you know, Deon's team playing tonight. You got some other
ranked opponents tonight. What do you remember about getting ready
for your first college football game? I've seen because back
when you were at Georgia, when you were the dogs,
you guys always played somebody good early in the year.
You often played Clemson early in the year. What's that
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like when, especially back then, you lose one game and
your national title helps are really dwindling.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Well, it's funny. I never played Clinton, but I would.
They played them right before I got there, then they
played them right after I left, and I never had
the privilege of playing against the organization like that. But
it's tough, man. You want to start the season off
with a bang, so taking an opponent like that, I mean,
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you know, some people say, no, let's get our feet
wet first. Some want to just jump off the roof.
And as a dog like I want to see us
play the best, and Cleinton's up there. I gotta I
feel Clinton is going to be better than people think,
you know, so we got our hands full as their
interior on both sides of the ball. It's always elite.
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So I'm just looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
But I do think my dog would take it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What is it like as a pro football Hall of
Famer to watch your alma mater play? In terms of
the joy and pain you get from You got to
do this for fifteen years in the NFL, You got
to do this at the highest level of college. You
are powerless watching your alma mater play. Be honest with me,
how much How does that feel watching it as opposed
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to when you were doing it?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Well, you have to look at it like this, Doug.
I was born a Bulldog, so I've been a fan
at least ten times as much as I played. So
it's not it's not nothing new that I'm on the
other side again, right. I did get my feet let
a little and play for the dog for three years,
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But again I'm a fan again, and for the past
I guess twenty five years or so, That's what I've
been doing, you know, over here, sweating and going crazy
and stressed out, just like everybody else are about there
alma mater. So it's good. It's good because when the
game's over, I'm not banged up like I was those
three years I played, So it feels great.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What has allowed Kirby to take this program to this
level of consistent excellence.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Leadership. It all boils down the leadership and the culture
that he's built there. There is no question there's always
going to be distractions from eighteen to twenty one year
old kids. It's inevitable. But how do you handle it?
How you handle it is what's going to separate you.
Every team around the country is dealing with issues, but
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your culture determines how you get through it. And he's
just built this thing into a powerhouse. Every year recruiting
the best kids, regardless of talent. He's getting the best
man he can get, and that's why you win games.
It's very simple. It's a very simple model. It's just
hard to keep it up every year. Here hard.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What would you have done in college if you had
the type of money that these kids have, and how
would that have affected you?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Probably blow it? Uh But because regardless, I was not
financially literate back then, so I'm sure most of them
are dealing with that now, and it's unfortunate that they're
getting this money without understanding what it means. You know,
there's no doubt in my mind that they'll figure this
out down the road. But structure is demanded now. They
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need it, and I just hope they don't wait too
long to.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Get it right.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
The way I see it, these kids deserve everything they get,
but we need to make sure that they don't destroy
themselves and others around them by what they do with it.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And so how do.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
We do how do we do?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
How do we do that? Champ? I mean honestly, you've
you've made a lot of money, you've made success. How
do you do that?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Though?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Because because the pushback, remember the pushback that you get is, hey,
you can't tell us how much we can make. Hey,
you can't tell us where the money goes. You just
got to give us the money. That's the pushback that
you'll get. So how do you create how do you
create a structure for players to get this money to
where they don't blow it but they do get what
they need.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Well, there needs to be some type of CDA, the
agreement between the players in the colleges or the NCAA
whoever's running the shows. There needs to be some agreement.
These scholarships they need to become contracts. This is where
we are. It's not like you change the game. It's
just the landscape of how you compensate these players fairly
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has changed. Now we're out here. You're giving them money
like this. There's schools that have collectives in how they
have There are schools that have collectives on the outside
like this. This team is fining players. This team is
there's no real structure around what the disciplines are, what
the compensation is. There's no structure. I don't have all
the answers about how that should look. But when you're
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talking about eighteen to twenty two year old kids, what
do you expect them to do.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
When you give them a million bucks?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
No question?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
What do you expect their family to do? What do
you expect? So we have to protect them from that.
Now when they get to the league and they're older,
they'll be well taught. You know, it'll actually benefit them
long term if we put those things in place now.
Teach them what it means to pay taxes, all that
stuff is important. They need to do that now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And I you and I agree wholeheartedly. Hey Champ, So
about this time? About this game? Okay, tell about this game.
So look, it's the you have the August thirty first
athletic kickoff game where I know you're there to support
the Affleck Cancer Center, but what about your family foundation
and some of the things some of the good works
you guys have been doing.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Well my family foundation, I've always had a foundation, uh
since I played. But I think as you evolve and
understand what it means to give back and how to
get back more effectively, That's what I've learned to do
over time. And now it's all about who am I
partnering with. You know that are out that are out
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here doing the good work, and as like you see
the best example of what it means to give back
what they've done at this cancer and Blood disorder center
for these young cancer patients and these young patients with
sickle cell it's it's nothing short of amazing. When you
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walk in there, you know they they people say that
we go there and we uplift these kids. But you know,
I go in there, I smile, and I'm feeding off
the energy of the parents. They're dealing with it, they're
in it every day. But the energy and there and
the positivity that they exude, I mean, it can't be understated.
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There's kids in there. When they're in that hospital, they
it's not just affecting them, it's affecting the whole family.
I see this one kid, he has his older brother there,
his older brother he's eight years old. His older brother's ten.
His mom is in there. Don't you think both those
kids want to be outside plane Now his little brother's ill,
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so he's in here help and take care of them.
I don't think people really understand, like what it really
means when a kid has an illness at a young
age like that, and what it does to everybody in
the family. So when you see that and witness it,
I come out more inspired by what they do. And
now I understand why Athletic has given so much to
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the Athletic Cancer and Blood Disorder Center, and why they've
done it for so long. I mean almost thirty years
they've been doing it. I'm just happy that they allow
me to be a part of it, and now they
support what I'm doing, and my part is trying to
help kids, kids that are dealing with mental and physical illnesses.
Man Like I said, it can't be understand the work
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that they do.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, it cannot. Champ Man, you were a great football player,
even better to talk to and catch up with as
a person. Enjoy watching your dogs this weekend against Clemson,
and let's do this again very very soon. Thank you
for bring our guests.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Thanks go Dogs.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All Right, that's the Hall of Famer Champ Bailey joining
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trader.
You know what's interesting about Champ is there's like a
con there's like two guys he kind of reminds you
of and has and there's some comparable parts to his career, right,
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Like Hines Ward's another great former Georgia player who had
a long college career, had a pro career as well,
And I mean it was unbelievable pro career, just solid
and consistent. And then I always thought when he was
when he was drafted by the Skins, he was going
to be the next Darryl oh Man. What's this?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well Dale Green? Right, and he he didn't play as
long as Dale Green played twenty years. He played fifteen.
But it's kind of similar, right, where they had just
great long careers, no issues with the guy, really good player.
And the interesting part about all three of those guys,
Darrol Green, Heinz Ward, and Champailey. The positions of flamboyance
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in the NFL, the positions that produce the guys that
are the look at me guys are cornerback and wide receivers.
You have to have a huge ego to be successful
in play it either because cornerback you're going to get
beat and as a wide receiver, you know you're not
going to catch every ball and they're going to try
and take your head off every time. But there is
a level of arrogance which so many people in those
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positions have.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Never felt like Champ heinz Ward, Dale Green ever had that.
Never had that. So again, they're not like best friends
or buddies. But if you did a Vinn diagram, you
know you'd put in one Sugley, put hinz Ward over
on one side, You'd put Daryl Green on the other side,
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and then you'd put Champ Bailey in the middle. Does
it make sense Chase too.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I thought you were going Could I throw in another comparison?
I guess he finds all of them, Charles Woodson, because
didn't Champ do both ways in college and return punts. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Charles Woodson, we thought coming out of college might do
some receiving. He never never quite did. I don't think
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Champ ever did.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah. I mean they kind of crossed over same era,
but they didn't cross over same teams. I guess right,
Woodson was. Woodson was a little bit older because he's
on the national champion Michigan team, and then they never
I don't they never cross pollinated in terms of being
on the same team.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Both went somewhere else to win a Super Bowl, right
did Champ was?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, they lost in Super Bowl. His Super Bowl was
the one they lost to the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, I don't think he wasn't on the Super Bowl
win team. And when I remember about that Super Bowl,
that was the one in New York City and that
week everybody came in. It was just a coronation for
Peyton Manning, Peyton man and Peyton Manning and we should
pull the tape at some point in time. You were
doing Rome Show at the time, and I was just
sitting there going like, are we sure that the best
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defense that we've seen in like ten years in the
NFL is really going to lose to Peyton Manning and
the Super Bowl and sure enough, you know, the fumbled
snap from the get go, they never got it going.
That was not a good game.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And then they won.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
There was nothing about that Super Bowl that was good. No,
because that was Uh did they win the next year?
Was a two years later? I don't think. I don't
think it was next.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Year, twenty fifteen, I believe is when the Broncos beat
the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Right, and that was that was? That was. I think
Champ was on the Saints that year. I think he
went to the Saints right after that one. I could
be wrong, but that's what I believe.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
No, he finished his career after that Super Bowl loss
in twenty thirteen. He just played with the two teams,
Washington and Denver. Looking at it now.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
All right, Washington, but no, but he played. He went
to the Saints. He went to the Saints a free agent.
He might have got cut at some point in time,
but he definitely was signed with the Saints at some
point in time. It was all like Jerry Rice. Do
you know Jerry Rice was in training camp with the
Seahawks or the Broncos. He did both.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, No, you're right. He Seahawks signed with the Saints
in April and was cut from the Saints in August
and called.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, so no, it didn't make the team called the quits.
Can you imagine that? How hard that is?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Like, you just lose the Super Bowl, you go to
a different team and like you're an all time great,
you're a Hall of Famer. You're like, yeah, I think
we're done here. I think we're done here.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And sorry to clarify, it was the Panthers Broncos was
the twenty sixteen Super Bowl following the.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, what do you remember about that Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Panthers Broncos? Yep, well we remember Cam Newton not diving.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
On the ball.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Correct, huge one and also which I was told at
the time, by the way, and I went crazy about
that because he handled that.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Fifty got too much grief for that. No he didn't,
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I feel like people just hold that over him. And
he was a great football player.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Again, you can be a great football player, but in
the moment, in the moment of truth, when the ball
is on the floor and they're saying you're down six, no,
and then if you remember he was a jerk about
it in the postgame press conference, and then he went
home and he had like a day off, and then
when he got to Carolina, he was still a jerk
about it. He's never taken ownership over ever.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Aver.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I have to point out that was a that was
a typical Sam justification. Because he's a great football player
doesn't mean that he didn't screw up in that Super Bowl.
I mean, I remember what was I'm not even sure
why I felt the need to do this, but I
sent out a tweet in the fourth quarter as he
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was getting his ass kicked, and I said, I wonder
if he's going to do a press conference at all.
Remember when he did the press conference, it was either
really short or he didn't do it, or something happened
at the end.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It was there was another press conference. He was in
a room, there's some other people, and he was just
very very he was super rude, you know. It was
super content, super contentious, you know. And he got and
when they asked him about the fumble, he was like, yeah,
well I was worried about Mike somebody taking out my knees,
my legs, Like, dude, you're in the Super Bowl. What
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are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He could not have handled it worse.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Could not have handled it worse. And then he got it.
And then like two days later they traveled home to
Charlotte and they did exit interviews and it wasn't like
it wasn't like a All he had to say was like, yeah,
I was just emotional. Super Bowl my bad, and he
like doubled it was worse. Double down is worse. So
that Super Bowl again, you talk about things you remember
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from these Super Bowls that we covered. The first one
where it was Broncos. Remember that was the first that
was Super Bowl in New York and there was a
snowstorm that hit like thirty minutes after the game. That
was that was one thing, but it was more just
a complete and utter dominance of the Seattle defense and
then the complete and utter dominance of the Broncos defense.
(27:31):
Two years later in the Super Bowl where the Broncos
their offense was completely non existent, but they won the
game because Panthers couldn't do anything with them, and they
also had excellent special teams.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Like I remember thinking to myself, they are gonna they're
gonna hurt Cam Newton. They're gonna permanently hurt him. He
was getting no support.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, they were not very good.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And that was a really really good Panthers offense that year.
And to hold him to fifteen points, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It was again, it's that that team played the weakest.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Schedule, right right, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
They played one team I believe with a winning record
all season long.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So they flexed on They flexed a great offense over
bad teams.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
No, they had.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
What they had was they had a great running game.
Quarterback could run, Two running backs could run. Right. They
had a really good running game, and they had a
great defense. Great defense in our lifetime, and I mean this,
we've had a lot of great running backs, a lot
of great linebackers. Luke Keikley is should be in any conversation,
the best we've ever seen play football.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
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Speaker 1 (28:45):
Doug gollib show rolls on Fox Sports Radio. So the
Patriots have decided to go with Jacoby Brissette. We'll be
joined by Shawan Alexander, former MVP of the NFL. Going
back to his days with Seattle Seahawks. He'll join us
at half past the hour. We've talked about this a lot.
I mean, look, it's a team in New England that
we're not going to talk a lot about because they're
not very good. But they did drafted a highly touted
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quarterback and they did bring back Jacoby Brissett, who was
the third string quarterback for them. They he started in
previous years at Cleveland and other places as well. Here's
Rod Mayo there, new head coach, announcing his decision to
start the veteran Jacoby Brissett ahead of the rookie Drake
may We'll get to that in one second. Look my
(29:37):
read on it is pretty simple. I just I just
think that in reality, Okay, in reality, you have a
guy in a Jacoby Brissett who you can take in
take out. He's everything has happened to him in this game.
Whereas you know, and I think Jason describes some many
(30:00):
gen Zers is fragile. I think young people can be fragile.
They haven't seen the tough times the way that older
people have. And when you're a rookie quarterback coming into
this league, whether you're fragile, whether you just lack the
self esteem of having done it before. It's a real thing.
Here's Mayo on his decision.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
We have decided, or I have decided, that Jacoby Brissett
will be our starting quarterback this season. Now I'm saying
that as an organization, we're one hundred percent behind Jacoby.
There is no you know, you got a guy right here,
you got a guy right there. We're one hundred percent
behind Jacoby. I had an opportunity to talk to Drake.
I had an opportunity to talk to Jacoby separately and
also together, and I feel like we're all on the
(30:38):
same page from an organizational perspective.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, so we're on the same page. It's going to
be your time. It's just not right now. There's no race.
We're not in a rush. You know, it's a really
hard thing to do too. As a young player, as
a young coach whatever. You have a new, bright, shiny object,
you have a quarterback, you to put him out there,
but you got to balance it, take a breath with it,
(31:03):
and go like, all right, what's what's the difference? You know,
I don't think there's huge expectations this Patriots team anyway,
Like nobody's sitting there going like super Bowl or bust.
So take your time with it. Make sure he's ready.
Have him watched Jakoby Brissett, who's a pros pro. Haven't
watched him prep, haven't watched see what goes right, see
(31:25):
what goes wrong? You know, until you've most guys have
never seen an NFL game executed. Very different than the
base of the college game. No matter how much you
get guys ready with preseason games, we know it's not
the same. We just do. Let mean Stut Gottleib Show,
you're on Fox Sports Radio, and you may remember him
(31:46):
as the NFL's MVP in two thousand and five. Of course,
he led the Seahawks to Super Bowl forty. He was
a three time Pro bowler, played nine years in the NFL,
but of course an absolute start during his college all
days as well. He's one only Sean Alexander kind of
have to spend some time with this year on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. And Sean, what tell me how it
(32:07):
came to be that you're the biggest advocate here for
this Freshman of the Year award?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You know it was it was a wild story. Of course,
you know, I've had great relationships with many of the
writers from sports and about seven years ago they asked
me what I helped. They're like, man, we want you
to be a part of college football in some kind
of way. You want to help us pick out the
freshman All American team and doing some of the voting
(32:33):
for some of the players, and and and so I said, yeah, sure,
I'll do that. And you know, it was really great
and and and it's a lot of fun. And then
after the year ended, they said, yeah, we're thinking about
naming the Freshman Player of the Year after somebody. We
want somebody who's you know, had a great college career,
great pro career. It's not a sinker, you know. I mean,
(32:54):
he's young enough that kids can remember him, and also
at the same time, he's old enough where he could
handle this position. But he's alive. And I was like, oh,
let me think about that. So, uh, they call me
up like the next day. It was like, Sean, we
actually were joking. It's it's you. We want you to
be the award recipient of the Shawn Alexander Freshman Player
of the Year. And I was like, wow, okay, and
(33:16):
so so yeah, so they picked me and and we
went on and we we picked the Freshman All American
Team that year, and then and the and the player
of the Year was our first one was the was
Trevor Lawrence, you know, now quarterback with the Jacksonville ga whar.
He's a little freshman at Clemson and they beat Alabama
in the National Championship game, and and he was number one.
Kenneth Gainswell was the second. Will Anderson Bama defensive end
(33:40):
was the number the third tick and and then fourth
was Brock Hours, fifth was Drake May and then six
is Caleb Downs. And so we've had six winners, all
great freshmen we looked up and and these guys have
all become the ones who are in the pros now
have become pros. And a couple of Trevor's number one overall,
but at two, number three overalls, Drake Manwell, Anderson we've
(34:04):
already had kindom games well for the Eagles. He already
sit in the Super Bowl. So our guys were picking
them as these little nineteen year olds and h and
they're blockoming quickly in the pros. And so that's some
dispersion that we wanted to do, was pick out a
great freshman, but also see the future of college football.
We call him the Princeville College Football and where we've
been picking right, it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Sean Alexander joining us on the Doug Gotleig Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. What do you remember about your
your freshman year when you were in college?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You know, my big my biggest game was the LSU game.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know, it was still Alabama's best single singles a
single game rushing games. And uh, and what I remember
about it is is we have all this talent down
the Alabama's team. You got all these guys you know,
all State Tennessee, you know, a year older than me,
all State Alabama that you know, two years older to me.
You got all these world class athletes, and our two,
(35:02):
our starter in the back of both got hurt right
before the game. And uh and they sue me in
the game in the first quarter at one carry, one touchdown,
seventeen yards against LSU. You know, it's still damn LSU
eight verse nine or something like that, you know, And
and they put me in the second half and broke
(35:23):
two seventy yarders and next thing you know, it's two
hundred and ninety one yards on twenty carries and four touchdowns.
And and I just remember playing against bat lers at
night as a freshman and putting your putting your mark
on a team. It's just special. And so those are
the moments I remember as a freshman, you know, just
those big games in the SEC and be able to
(35:44):
go in there and play, you know, all buring. You know,
two weeks later Florida Gators and the SEC championship and
we lost and they end up winning national championship and
kind of knowing how close we are, you know, your
freshman year gets to teach you a lot about the
fight inside you and also whether you can actually go
get thing done. And it was it was really special
for me.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Sean Alexander joining us in the Doug Galthlic show. Yeah,
interesting it would we don't know this, but would have
been interesting to see if you would have transferred after
you know, your first year where you got to start
because of injuries, second year didn't play nearly as much.
Would you even made it to years three and four
if it was twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Four, Yeah, you know what I think I would have
because I'm one of those if I pick you, I
pick you, and we're gonna ride or die, you know.
And it was never like, ooh, you're not going to play.
It was you know, you're a freshman. We've got two
juniors and they're both pretty good, and then they're sophomore.
(36:37):
My sophomore year, they were seniors, and I was one
of those guys that I thought I was the best.
But I also wasn't arrogant enough to feel like they
don't deserve to at least have a shot to go
do it now. I always set them. I told them
the same thing that I that I've always told everybody.
If you give me a chance, though you might not
get it back, but but to take it from somebody
(37:00):
without being on the field, I didn't think that was
the right thing to do.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
What about as a pro, how long did it take
to when you felt really comfortable? As as an NFL
running back?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know, I was buying Ricky Waters and you know
it's ten thousand yards seventy eight touchdowns. You know, he
was that guy, and so you know my you know,
I would come in spotty like that my rookie year,
and and then he got hurt like the third game
of our second of my second season, and that was
you know, you know, thirteen hundred you know, twenty or fifteen,
(37:34):
sixteen touchdowns and then the place was mine and so
it was once again it was the same thing. Like
I believe that if you got a superstar in front
of you, you're respecting, you know, you honoring, because one
day of the shift and you'll be the guy. But
if you get the chance, you leave a mark. And
you know, my first two starts when Ricky got hurt
(37:57):
was you know, was like one seventy two and one
and two touchdowns, you know, so but you know, you
blink your eyes at three hundred yards and three touchdowns
and two games, and so everybody can kind of see.
But that's that's kind of what I believe. I believe
in busting your tail and getting yourself ready to go
and be that guy, but also having enough humility and
(38:17):
patience and grind to to wait it out. But when
it's your term, take it over. And I think that's
why I like the Freshman Player of the Year award,
you know, like I get to go tell those stories
and being like, hey, you're the guy, we all see
it in you, but also have a little humility and
a lot in a strong, strong skin and a strong
(38:38):
work ethic and watch what happens and uh, it becomes
out of fun.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
How can we get more information about your ward?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Well, you know, you know, of course all the social
media is you've got, you know, Instagram and Twitter, and
then we're part of the Maxwell Football Club family of
awards and uh and sore where you can go to
Max dot com board you can go just to my
ward to Seth Shanna Alexander dot com and and and
hear about it. But it's been a lot of fun
(39:07):
growing these relationships with these guys and watching them become
men and uh, and what's really cool is is we've
kind of layered it, you know, so just like the
watch list, you get to see the Alexander Hot thirty
seven and and I start the relationships with those guys
then and around the first of November, we come up
with the Fab fourteen, that's the fourteenth semifinalists. December December one,
(39:30):
right before that championship game, we usually lift out our
top five finalists and then I'll usually call the winner
on Christmas Day and I give them a Merry Christmas.
You're the freshman player, Player of the Year, You're the
baddest freshman in the country. Now go win your bowl
games and uh and it's always a sweet moment with
with the winners with that. And you know, it's been
(39:51):
about three of them have been able to play in
the in the playoffs or the National Championship game afterwards.
So it's been really cool to watch that also, it.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Should be a lot of fun. Sean, You're an awesome ambassador,
not just for this but for all the football. We
really appreciate joining us on box Port Radio.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Hey, thank you, brother, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
All right. That that's our pleasure. That's Shawan Alexander joining
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
I did want to bring Moncu into this conversation of
one we had yesterday, so we were trying to figure
out why people were freaking out about show Heyo, Toni's
bobblehead night. Now he did, of course play well because
(40:32):
he's showed Hey Toni. Apparently there was like there were
gold bobbleheads. Is that right?
Speaker 8 (40:37):
There was.
Speaker 10 (40:38):
It was like a golden ticket and you didn't know
whether you got it until you open the box. So
I've got the last couple of years there has.
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Been like a specialty bobblehead.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
You know, a couple of years ago we had a
Cody Bellinger bobblehead, and very few of them.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
He had the great Away uniform.
Speaker 10 (40:58):
That bobblehead was a window, meaning they handed to you
and you could tell right away is it a white
uniform or is it a gray uniform. This was a
couple of years ago and people went crazy for Cody
Bellinger in a gray Away uniform jersey.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
However you want to look at it.
Speaker 10 (41:12):
So this time we were expecting it to be a
little bit wild as well. The first round of Otani
bobbleheads also had a special different look, but they didn't
announce it. This one was announced a little bit ahead
of time, and it was an all gold babble had.
But there's no window on the box. So you walked in,
they handed you a bobblehead, and then you walked in,
you had to open it. You had to take it
out to see if you got the golden bobblehead, the
(41:33):
golden ticket and brilliant.
Speaker 8 (41:36):
It was actually kind of fun.
Speaker 10 (41:38):
We started with tours, so the tour guests were the
first ones to come in and get their bobbleheads. And
the way I would find out as if they got
it is because I was away, like in center field,
and I could hear someone cheering, and I was like, oh,
they got a gold one because they're cheering.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
There's they're all clapping and cheering, and uh.
Speaker 10 (41:55):
We also found out that the box on the outside
there's a picture of Showy and there's like.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
A moon and Saturn, and on.
Speaker 10 (42:02):
The moon there's a little pawprint. And that's how you
knew it was a golden bobble.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yes, the deats, I like that.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I like that.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Yeah, but we obviously didn't.
Speaker 10 (42:13):
Know that until you know, after the facts. So if
you look closely, there is a little pawprint. So no,
my bobble box does.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
Not have a Pawprinty.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
It didn't even open mind.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
So here's the question, Jay stew percentage of Dodger fans
who went to the game last night knowing there was
a potential golden bobblehead majority.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, most people did. They announce it beforehand. So I
think that's what explains the massive traffic jam to get
in and people camping out or getting there really early.
The question I have for everybody here is how much
what was the what are those golden things going forward?
Speaker 8 (42:50):
A lot?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Like, are we talking about like fifteen five figures?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
I'll tell you right now, because yesterday they were.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
And is that was that the because that one makes
sense to go there at eight in the morning and
just camp all day, because you could turn zero dollars
into fifteen thousand. That makes that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 10 (43:10):
Like right now, just the first couple of listings on
eBay two thousand plus eighteen hundred, thirty one hundred.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I saw one for seventeen thousand. Maybe that was like,
I don't.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
Even know this one is seventeen thousand.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Hier right now asking price doesn't mean they're going to
get to seventeen thousand. But let's just say that these
golden bobble heads are going in the thousands, and then
the colored ones are going for like in the three hundreds.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, and I'd love to have one of just even
the colored ones that are cool.
Speaker 10 (43:37):
Yeah, no, no, they are cool and obviously has his
dog decoy. But it was like this the first time
around with the first bobblehead, and this time around it
was a little.
Speaker 8 (43:48):
Bit you know, more intense.
Speaker 10 (43:49):
People thought it was like Black Friday and that they
could camp out and I don't know what they try
to start camping out at like seven am, but they
were shoot away. They were like, you can't get in
line at seven am, what are you doing? And then
the line really started around ten thirty am outside the gates,
like there was I don't know where people left their cars.
Speaker 8 (44:07):
I don't know where they parked.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
It was a madness.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
It was it was mad.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
It was crazy. I saw a video footage of this.
People lined up like it was a like a Taylor
Swift concert or honestly, like in line to watch m clark. Yeah, exactly.
It was crazy. And I think Japanese fans flew in
for this game absolutely because they interviewed people in line
and they're like, yeah, we came in for this game.
Speaker 10 (44:29):
And that's why these are going for so much money
is because he is an international.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Star that we were aware international, We were you.
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Know, Americans buying. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Right, which is which just kind of the secret to
the California housing market, which people don't understand right to like,
how can anybody afford like you have you know, Asian
business people, they come in, they smartly buy up with
cash and everything, and and and Persian business people buying
up all of Newport Coast. That's what kind of drives
up with those values. But man to come in for
one baseball game seems like a lot.
Speaker 10 (45:03):
Yeah, no, guys, there were people who sorry, there was
like a one one family who took a Japanese tour
at ten thirty am. They took an English tour at
one pm, and then they took the pregame tour at
three point thirty.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
They I can barely make it through like half a tour.
My add said, creeps up. I get through a tour like,
oh my gosh, I don't care, like, oh this is
from nineteen sixties, Like, don't care. Mightbe this may be
incredible information, but you got past fifteen minutes. I'm out.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
I know they're all a day.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
People were trying to stay in the stadium because they
kept you. They're like you have to exit to get
back in the line. And I was like, listen, if
you want to hide in a bush.
Speaker 8 (45:40):
You can try it.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Try all means.
Speaker 8 (45:43):
I'm not going to stop you.
Speaker 10 (45:44):
I'm just telling you I've never seen security work as
hard as they've been working today.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, we'll see what was like, looking back, I'm pretty
sure that was like a fire hazard, a violation of something,
looking back, can't the Dodgers just have as many bobbleheads
as there are seats from the stadium.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Yeah, but what's a supply and demand thing?
Speaker 8 (46:03):
It is a supply actually this time.
Speaker 10 (46:05):
Usually the Dodgers, by the way, are the ones that
give the most giveaways. We usually do forty thousand giveaways
for any giveaway out of how many seats.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
It's like, is it fifty five thousand dollars?
Speaker 10 (46:16):
Fifty six thousand is a capacity, but that includes the
player of security workers.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
There's not fifty five thousand seats. There's probably about fifty thousand,
fifty seats.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
We're talking like eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Why do why do only eighty percent get the giveaway?
Speaker 10 (46:28):
Well, this time, Doug, they actually had fifty thousand giveaways.
They didn't they update, they didn't. Everyone should have got one.
They did not. That was not public information. That wasn't told.
They did up.
Speaker 8 (46:42):
It ten thousand more this time.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
So the somewhere there's that George somewhere, there's a George
kiss stands up there, Who's who who? He's very much
in charge of this and He's like, what if we
give away just forty thousand this time and save some money. No,
let's do fifty thousand.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
They're already spending a lot of money on show Hay's contract.
Like there, it's it was a wise investment. I mean,
I can't even tell you like the valuation of all
of this show hey Mania. I mean, they're they're gonna
get their money money's worth.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Last night, like literally last night would be one of
those nights where you would hear Joe, Joe Davis or
whoever say, I mean, if you went into a Hollywood
script pitch meeting, they'd kick out of the room.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
You hate this, You hate that.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Because decoy, his dog is on the bubblehead correct decoy
throughout the first.
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Pitch, throughout with he ran it to him in the first.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Pitch, Show Hay steps up first first bat and it's
a home run.
Speaker 10 (47:39):
It's ridiculous. And by the way, they had been practicing
this with decoy. He had been out there for like
two weeks, like the tours were five, right, Yeah, like
they were training, they were they they didn't do it,
you know, they did a couple of times, and it
was fun to see him doing that. Like the first
time the tours were like, what is he doing?
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Oh, he's practicing with decoy were and got to see that.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
Lots of tour guests got to see it. Yeah, because he.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Had a practice and then one of the times he
used the restroom on the field.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, how do you how do you.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Know all this about tours? Do you give away tours?
Have you been on a bunch of these tours? You
seem to doing a lot. Hey, you give the tours Dodger.
Speaker 10 (48:16):
I mean I haven't, and I now am elite, so
I now run the operations day to day, but I
gave tours for many years. I would keep you more
entertained than fifteen minutes, Doug.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Really, he's an ambassador of Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah, I had no idea. I love Dodger Stadium, but
I that tour. I'd wont like a personalized tour. I'm
a snob like that. There's a group of people like, say, coach,
here's a group of people like nah nah.
Speaker 10 (48:41):
Yeah, I definitely have your attention for more than fifteen minutes,
not with boring stuff.
Speaker 8 (48:47):
Not that you're boring, I just I know what you
mean about the historical stuff.
Speaker 10 (48:50):
Sometimes it's yeah, and especially yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
This is where Sandy Kofax spit out his gum and
then the gum's been put into a k.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Especially yes, especially if you do it in like a
nineteen twenties baseball The hair is where Sandy Kofax spit
out his gum the day before the Sabbath that he
took off because it was roche hash An.
Speaker 8 (49:15):
That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
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be welcome in. You have made it. You have made it.
Football seasons here the rest of the stuff, you know,
like we'll pretend like last week didn't happen. I know
Florida State want fans want that to happen. By the way,
I got my rapid radio here in my hand. This
thing is so cool. Breaker one nine, Breaker one nine
(01:05):
this year the bandit come back right. I love this thing.
This thing is so good. We'll get to our rapid
radios reads a little bit later on the show, but
I have I think there's two people in the media
right now who in many ways parallel each other, and
they're trying to have the same type of success they've
(01:30):
had previously in this field, which is not necessarily was
definitely not their primary focus coming out of college. Coach
Prime is the Donald Trump of college football and vice versa.
Two gigantic names, honestly, two gigantic names from the nineties,
(01:54):
eighties and nineties who have achieved. Like, whatever you want
to say about our former president, he beat fifteen establisher
Republicans and Hillary Rodham Clinton to win the presidency of
the United States. That was an all time upset. So
he's actually achieved something previously. And we can say whatever
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we want about Jackson State and the level of competition.
They were the most dominant team in the HBCU world
and they dramatically change how we view Jackson State like overnight.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Trying to get back to that level for either is
going to be very difficult, And I think both are
similar in that, whether you like or dislike for whatever reason,
you can't turn it off. You know you're still watching.
And then they both have this kind of ingenious way
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of making any legitimate negative discussion into being about you
being negative and not about the actual discussion. Right, It's
like it's diabolical and brilliant that you know, Trump can
talk about all these things. It's like you help lead
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a riot on the Capitol after you lost the last election.
The same thing for Dion, like, hey, we're asking you
tough questions. You you said you wouldn't be hard to find,
and now you don't want us to find you. You
were the most flamboyant and talked about college football coach
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in the country last year, and he won four games,
Like people weren't rooting for you to win four games.
Now we get to a place to where you get
fatigue and you get worn down, and the act kind
of feels like I've seen this before, I know how
it ends, and I think you're getting some of that
with Donald Trump. I think you're getting a lot of
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that with coach Prime. So here's the question, not a
political question. Colorado kicks out their football season. They're taking
on North Dakota State really really well regarded one double
A team or whether they come FCS team, And I'm
just wondering, like, if I did an honest ratio, I
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think most of us will watch one you know you
have two players at Colorado who are two of at
least are perceived super elite players in the college game.
You'll watched last year even when they weren't good, but
especially when they were winning early and you were surprised.
I think this year's team will be better than last year.
But this year's schedule, especially pre dating when they get
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to the Big Twelve. You know, Colorado State on the
road and Nebraska on the road, as well as North
Dakota State at home, those are hard, hard games. Are
you watching to see Colorado win because you want to
be one of those? Hey, all these people are against
coach Prime. I'm with them sort of guys? Or do
you want to see them? I don't think there's anything
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in the middle. Samwhich is it for you? Do you
want to see him winner? Do you want to see
him lose?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I forgot about this fact. North Dakota State is coached
by former IOWA assistant Tim Polasek, and so I definitely
want to see him pull off the upset in Boulder
over the by excuse me, over the buffalo Bison.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Over the buffalo.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Bison, over the buffaloon.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Got a couple of trampling mascots for this game we do.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Is there a difference between a bison and a buffalo?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
There is. I couldn't tell you the minuscule anology differences,
but they are basically the same beast. They are, but
they might have slight differences.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
All right, Jay stew are you rooting for? Do you
want coach Prime to win or lose?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Bison and buffalo are both large horned ox like animals
in the bevide family, but there are several differences between them.
Bison have humps, a large hump. Buffalo did not.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
No humps for the for the buffalo.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yep, So there it is. Lots of humps. All right,
learn something today. So here's here's my take on tonight.
Dion would have us believe, or he said this in
the past, that the reason why his program is disliked
is because we don't like brash, colorful, uh in your
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face black men. Right. He has said that. No, No,
it's not that. It's how you coach your kids to play.
I don't think it's good sportsmanship. It's easy to hate
they they they go overboard with rubbing it in and taunting.
That was the problem last year. Had nothing happened Nike.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
What did Nike do? How about Nike? Miike has made
Shadeur a centerpiece for their ad campaign. Okay, Meanwhile, the
picture of Shador is him holding up a watch which
is not Nike watch. And oh yeah, by the way,
it's douchebag material. That's what it is. Who does that?
It just is sorry, everybody thinks it. And and you
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know he may have gotten money from his nil. All
that stuff is because of his dad's name. Like, what
are we doing? You know, what are we doing? It's
like the kids showing up with brand new Jordan's to
the second day of sixth grade, acting like you know,
I made all this money, Like it's your dad's money.
What are you doing? Stop it anyway? Sorry, go ahead chasing.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So that was the reason why I drooted against them
last year, and I'm going to root against them this year.
It's because of the way they play. I think I
asked you or I told you usher he's going to
get one of his players killed on the on the field.
What was it the Colorado State game where there was
like an extra hit after the whistle or something that
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kind of of s talking by teams. You're dealing with
kids with a lot of pride, and when you shove
it in their faces like he does, like he coaches,
I think he's going to get one of his players
really hurt, including his son. So anyways, for all these reasons, I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Tuned in to watch, But you want to see him lose?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I think that's the general I think most people think
that I just do. I just do And I again,
I totally understand if you're like, well, you know, he's
a success story. He's been successful. He's got us talking
about Colorado, caring about Colorado football. But you want all
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that attention, you want all that smoke, you get it,
you got to own it. And tonight I would say
eighty percent of the football world who's watching wants them
to lose, you know, because you're losing in North Dakota State.
That would be a little bit of come up and
what are you thinking about? Do you want to see
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Speaker 6 (09:22):
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Speaker 1 (09:38):
So excited for football tonight. Honestly, if you guys need me,
just text me or call me. Like, I will literally
be watching a bunch of football games. I'm excited. Speaking
of football games, Jalen Hurts, of course, had an MVP
like season going back two years ago before he was
injured struggle at the end of last year, they end
up to start to out ten to oh, they floundered
down the stretch. He said this on his radio hit
(09:58):
this morning, talking about why he's taking more control this year.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
You know, I think in again, I think when you
look at this upcoming season and what you may have
seen from the years past is just different autonomy in
different places. You know, we had a great player Andrejason
Kelsey who took on a lot of responsibility, and result
of that, I was told not to worry about a
lot of things. My eagerness to learn and all of
that over the years, you know, kind of was halted
(10:22):
because of who we act. But but not times are different,
and I'm excited for that journey.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, that was It's a weird way of expressing himself
in that way. You know, Hey, my eagerness to learn
was kind of halted when mean was halted, you know,
halted by what because other guys were already veterans and
Jason Kelce who is already a leader, So now you
have to be a leader. I don't know. I always
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feel like you either are you aren't a leader. If
you guys aren't connecting with you, you're not connecting with anymore.
And the mo on Jalen hurts his jailing is about jailing,
and guys do see through all all the other stuff
after a while. You know of the teams in the NFL,
which you could say, hey, I don't know way which
way this is going to go, but they have a
lot of talent. That's the Eagles number one team. All right,
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it's Doug alib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Of course,
he's a four time first team All Pro, second time,
I'm assuming you a four time second team All Pro.
And this guy was just an absolute star. Twelve team Pro,
twelve time Pro Bowl or fifteen season in the NFL,
eight time first or second team All Pro. And he's
in Atlanta because well the big college football game is
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in Atlanta, and he's there on behalf of the AFLEC
Cancer Center champ Bailey joins U in the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio Champ. How are you?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I am good, Doug?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
How are you good?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Man? I'm excited just even for tonight. Right. You got
you know, Deon's team playing tonight. You got some other
ranked opponents tonight. What do you remember about getting ready
for your first college football game? I've seen because back
when you were at Georgia, when you were the dogs,
you guys always played somebody good early in the year.
You often played Clemson early in the year. What's that
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like when, especially back then, you lose one game and
your national title helps are really dwindling.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Well, it's funny. I never played Clinton, but I would.
They played them right before I got there, then they
played them right after I left, and I never had
the privilege of playing against the organization like that. But
it's tough, man. You want to start the season off
with a bang, so taking an opponent like that, I mean,
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you know, some people say, no, let's get our feet
wet first. Some want to just jump off the roof.
And as a dog like I want to see us
play the best, and Cleinton's up there. I gotta I
feel Clinton is going to be better than people think,
you know, so we got our hands full as their
interior on both sides of the ball. It's always elite.
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So I'm just looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
But I do think my dog would take it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What is it like as a pro football Hall of
Famer to watch your alma mater play? In terms of
the joy and pain you get from You got to
do this for fifteen years in the NFL, You got
to do this at the highest level of college. You
are powerless watching your alma mater play. Be honest with me,
how much How does that feel watching it as opposed
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to when you were doing it?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Well, you have to look at it like this, Doug.
I was born a Bulldog, so I've been a fan
at least ten times as much as I played. So
it's not it's not nothing new that I'm on the
other side again, right. I did get my feet let
a little and play for the dog for three years,
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But again I'm a fan again, and for the past
I guess twenty five years or so, That's what I've
been doing, you know, over here, sweating and going crazy
and stressed out, just like everybody else are about there
alma mater. So it's good. It's good because when the
game's over, I'm not banged up like I was those
three years I played, So it feels great.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What has allowed Kirby to take this program to this
level of consistent excellence.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Leadership. It all boils down the leadership and the culture
that he's built there. There is no question there's always
going to be distractions from eighteen to twenty one year
old kids. It's inevitable. But how do you handle it?
How you handle it is what's going to separate you.
Every team around the country is dealing with issues, but
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your culture determines how you get through it. And he's
just built this thing into a powerhouse. Every year recruiting
the best kids, regardless of talent. He's getting the best
man he can get, and that's why you win games.
It's very simple. It's a very simple model. It's just
hard to keep it up every year. Here hard.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What would you have done in college if you had
the type of money that these kids have, and how
would that have affected you?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Probably blow it? Uh But because regardless, I was not
financially literate back then, so I'm sure most of them
are dealing with that now, and it's unfortunate that they're
getting this money without understanding what it means. You know,
there's no doubt in my mind that they'll figure this
out down the road. But structure is demanded now. They
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need it, and I just hope they don't wait too
long to.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Get it right.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
The way I see it, these kids deserve everything they get,
but we need to make sure that they don't destroy
themselves and others around them by what they do with it.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And so how do.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
We do how do we do?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
How do we do that? Champ? I mean honestly, you've
you've made a lot of money, you've made success. How
do you do that?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Though?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Because because the pushback, remember the pushback that you get is, hey,
you can't tell us how much we can make. Hey,
you can't tell us where the money goes. You just
got to give us the money. That's the pushback that
you'll get. So how do you create how do you
create a structure for players to get this money to
where they don't blow it but they do get what
they need.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Well, there needs to be some type of CDA, the
agreement between the players in the colleges or the NCAA
whoever's running the shows. There needs to be some agreement.
These scholarships they need to become contracts. This is where
we are. It's not like you change the game. It's
just the landscape of how you compensate these players fairly
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has changed. Now we're out here. You're giving them money
like this. There's schools that have collectives in how they
have There are schools that have collectives on the outside
like this. This team is fining players. This team is
there's no real structure around what the disciplines are, what
the compensation is. There's no structure. I don't have all
the answers about how that should look. But when you're
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talking about eighteen to twenty two year old kids, what
do you expect them to do.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
When you give them a million bucks?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
No question?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
What do you expect their family to do? What do
you expect? So we have to protect them from that.
Now when they get to the league and they're older,
they'll be well taught. You know, it'll actually benefit them
long term if we put those things in place now.
Teach them what it means to pay taxes, all that
stuff is important. They need to do that now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And I you and I agree wholeheartedly. Hey Champ, So
about this time? About this game? Okay, tell about this game.
So look, it's the you have the August thirty first
athletic kickoff game where I know you're there to support
the Affleck Cancer Center, but what about your family foundation
and some of the things some of the good works
you guys have been doing.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Well my family foundation, I've always had a foundation, uh
since I played. But I think as you evolve and
understand what it means to give back and how to
get back more effectively, That's what I've learned to do
over time. And now it's all about who am I
partnering with. You know that are out that are out
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here doing the good work, and as like you see
the best example of what it means to give back
what they've done at this cancer and Blood disorder center
for these young cancer patients and these young patients with
sickle cell it's it's nothing short of amazing. When you
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walk in there, you know they they people say that
we go there and we uplift these kids. But you know,
I go in there, I smile, and I'm feeding off
the energy of the parents. They're dealing with it, they're
in it every day. But the energy and there and
the positivity that they exude, I mean, it can't be understated.
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There's kids in there. When they're in that hospital, they
it's not just affecting them, it's affecting the whole family.
I see this one kid, he has his older brother there,
his older brother he's eight years old. His older brother's ten.
His mom is in there. Don't you think both those
kids want to be outside plane Now his little brother's ill,
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so he's in here help and take care of them.
I don't think people really understand, like what it really
means when a kid has an illness at a young
age like that, and what it does to everybody in
the family. So when you see that and witness it,
I come out more inspired by what they do. And
now I understand why Athletic has given so much to
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the Athletic Cancer and Blood Disorder Center, and why they've
done it for so long. I mean almost thirty years
they've been doing it. I'm just happy that they allow
me to be a part of it, and now they
support what I'm doing, and my part is trying to
help kids, kids that are dealing with mental and physical illnesses.
Man Like I said, it can't be understand the work
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that they do.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, it cannot. Champ Man, you were a great football player,
even better to talk to and catch up with as
a person. Enjoy watching your dogs this weekend against Clemson,
and let's do this again very very soon. Thank you
for bring our guests.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Thanks go Dogs.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All Right, that's the Hall of Famer Champ Bailey joining
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trader.
You know what's interesting about Champ is there's like a
con there's like two guys he kind of reminds you
of and has and there's some comparable parts to his career, right,
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Like Hines Ward's another great former Georgia player who had
a long college career, had a pro career as well,
And I mean it was unbelievable pro career, just solid
and consistent. And then I always thought when he was
when he was drafted by the Skins, he was going
to be the next Darryl oh Man. What's this?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well Dale Green? Right, and he he didn't play as
long as Dale Green played twenty years. He played fifteen.
But it's kind of similar, right, where they had just
great long careers, no issues with the guy, really good player.
And the interesting part about all three of those guys,
Darrol Green, Heinz Ward, and Champailey. The positions of flamboyance
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in the NFL, the positions that produce the guys that
are the look at me guys are cornerback and wide receivers.
You have to have a huge ego to be successful
in play it either because cornerback you're going to get
beat and as a wide receiver, you know you're not
going to catch every ball and they're going to try
and take your head off every time. But there is
a level of arrogance which so many people in those
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positions have.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Never felt like Champ heinz Ward, Dale Green ever had that.
Never had that. So again, they're not like best friends
or buddies. But if you did a Vinn diagram, you
know you'd put in one Sugley, put hinz Ward over
on one side, You'd put Daryl Green on the other side,
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and then you'd put Champ Bailey in the middle. Does
it make sense Chase too.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I thought you were going Could I throw in another comparison?
I guess he finds all of them, Charles Woodson, because
didn't Champ do both ways in college and return punts. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Charles Woodson, we thought coming out of college might do
some receiving. He never never quite did. I don't think
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Champ ever did.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah. I mean they kind of crossed over same era,
but they didn't cross over same teams. I guess right,
Woodson was. Woodson was a little bit older because he's
on the national champion Michigan team, and then they never
I don't they never cross pollinated in terms of being
on the same team.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Both went somewhere else to win a Super Bowl, right
did Champ was?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No, they lost in Super Bowl. His Super Bowl was
the one they lost to the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh, I don't think he wasn't on the Super Bowl
win team. And when I remember about that Super Bowl,
that was the one in New York City and that
week everybody came in. It was just a coronation for
Peyton Manning, Peyton man and Peyton Manning and we should
pull the tape at some point in time. You were
doing Rome Show at the time, and I was just
sitting there going like, are we sure that the best
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defense that we've seen in like ten years in the
NFL is really going to lose to Peyton Manning and
the Super Bowl and sure enough, you know, the fumbled
snap from the get go, they never got it going.
That was not a good game.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And then they won.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
There was nothing about that Super Bowl that was good. No,
because that was Uh did they win the next year?
Was a two years later? I don't think. I don't
think it was next.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Year, twenty fifteen, I believe is when the Broncos beat
the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Right, and that was that was? That was. I think
Champ was on the Saints that year. I think he
went to the Saints right after that one. I could
be wrong, but that's what I believe.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
No, he finished his career after that Super Bowl loss
in twenty thirteen. He just played with the two teams,
Washington and Denver. Looking at it now.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
All right, Washington, but no, but he played. He went
to the Saints. He went to the Saints a free agent.
He might have got cut at some point in time,
but he definitely was signed with the Saints at some
point in time. It was all like Jerry Rice. Do
you know Jerry Rice was in training camp with the
Seahawks or the Broncos. He did both.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, No, you're right. He Seahawks signed with the Saints
in April and was cut from the Saints in August
and called.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, so no, it didn't make the team called the quits.
Can you imagine that? How hard that is?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Like, you just lose the Super Bowl, you go to
a different team and like you're an all time great,
you're a Hall of Famer. You're like, yeah, I think
we're done here. I think we're done here.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And sorry to clarify, it was the Panthers Broncos was
the twenty sixteen Super Bowl following the.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, what do you remember about that Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Panthers Broncos? Yep, well we remember Cam Newton not diving.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
On the ball.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Correct, huge one and also which I was told at
the time, by the way, and I went crazy about
that because he handled that.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Fifty got too much grief for that. No he didn't,
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I feel like people just hold that over him. And
he was a great football player.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Again, you can be a great football player, but in
the moment, in the moment of truth, when the ball
is on the floor and they're saying you're down six, no,
and then if you remember he was a jerk about
it in the postgame press conference, and then he went
home and he had like a day off, and then
when he got to Carolina, he was still a jerk
about it. He's never taken ownership over ever.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Aver.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I have to point out that was a that was
a typical Sam justification. Because he's a great football player
doesn't mean that he didn't screw up in that Super Bowl.
I mean, I remember what was I'm not even sure
why I felt the need to do this, but I
sent out a tweet in the fourth quarter as he
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was getting his ass kicked, and I said, I wonder
if he's going to do a press conference at all.
Remember when he did the press conference, it was either
really short or he didn't do it, or something happened
at the end.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It was there was another press conference. He was in
a room, there's some other people, and he was just
very very he was super rude, you know. It was
super content, super contentious, you know. And he got and
when they asked him about the fumble, he was like, yeah,
well I was worried about Mike somebody taking out my knees,
my legs, Like, dude, you're in the Super Bowl. What
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are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He could not have handled it worse.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Could not have handled it worse. And then he got it.
And then like two days later they traveled home to
Charlotte and they did exit interviews and it wasn't like
it wasn't like a All he had to say was like, yeah,
I was just emotional. Super Bowl my bad, and he
like doubled it was worse. Double down is worse. So
that Super Bowl again, you talk about things you remember
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from these Super Bowls that we covered. The first one
where it was Broncos. Remember that was the first that
was Super Bowl in New York and there was a
snowstorm that hit like thirty minutes after the game. That
was that was one thing, but it was more just
a complete and utter dominance of the Seattle defense and
then the complete and utter dominance of the Broncos defense.
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Two years later in the Super Bowl where the Broncos
their offense was completely non existent, but they won the
game because Panthers couldn't do anything with them, and they
also had excellent special teams.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Like I remember thinking to myself, they are gonna they're
gonna hurt Cam Newton. They're gonna permanently hurt him. He
was getting no support.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, they were not very good.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And that was a really really good Panthers offense that year.
And to hold him to fifteen points, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It was again, it's that that team played the weakest.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Schedule, right right, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
They played one team I believe with a winning record
all season long.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So they flexed on They flexed a great offense over
bad teams.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
No, they had.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
What they had was they had a great running game.
Quarterback could run, Two running backs could run. Right. They
had a really good running game, and they had a
great defense. Great defense in our lifetime, and I mean this,
we've had a lot of great running backs, a lot
of great linebackers. Luke Keikley is should be in any conversation,
the best we've ever seen play football.
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joined by Shawan Alexander, former MVP of the NFL. Going
back to his days with Seattle Seahawks. He'll join us
at half past the hour. We've talked about this a lot.
I mean, look, it's a team in New England that
we're not going to talk a lot about because they're
not very good. But they did drafted a highly touted
(29:07):
quarterback and they did bring back Jacoby Brissett, who was
the third string quarterback for them. They he started in
previous years at Cleveland and other places as well. Here's
Rod Mayo there, new head coach, announcing his decision to
start the veteran Jacoby Brissett ahead of the rookie Drake
may We'll get to that in one second. Look my
(29:37):
read on it is pretty simple. I just I just
think that in reality, Okay, in reality, you have a
guy in a Jacoby Brissett who you can take in
take out. He's everything has happened to him in this game.
Whereas you know, and I think Jason describes some many
(30:00):
gen Zers is fragile. I think young people can be fragile.
They haven't seen the tough times the way that older
people have. And when you're a rookie quarterback coming into
this league, whether you're fragile, whether you just lack the
self esteem of having done it before. It's a real thing.
Here's Mayo on his decision.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
We have decided, or I have decided, that Jacoby Brissett
will be our starting quarterback this season. Now I'm saying
that as an organization, we're one hundred percent behind Jacoby.
There is no you know, you got a guy right here,
you got a guy right there. We're one hundred percent
behind Jacoby. I had an opportunity to talk to Drake.
I had an opportunity to talk to Jacoby separately and
also together, and I feel like we're all on the
(30:38):
same page from an organizational perspective.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, so we're on the same page. It's going to
be your time. It's just not right now. There's no race.
We're not in a rush. You know, it's a really
hard thing to do too. As a young player, as
a young coach whatever. You have a new, bright, shiny object,
you have a quarterback, you to put him out there,
but you got to balance it, take a breath with it,
(31:03):
and go like, all right, what's what's the difference? You know,
I don't think there's huge expectations this Patriots team anyway,
Like nobody's sitting there going like super Bowl or bust.
So take your time with it. Make sure he's ready.
Have him watched Jakoby Brissett, who's a pros pro. Haven't
watched him prep, haven't watched see what goes right, see
(31:25):
what goes wrong? You know, until you've most guys have
never seen an NFL game executed. Very different than the
base of the college game. No matter how much you
get guys ready with preseason games, we know it's not
the same. We just do. Let mean Stut Gottleib Show,
you're on Fox Sports Radio, and you may remember him
(31:46):
as the NFL's MVP in two thousand and five. Of course,
he led the Seahawks to Super Bowl forty. He was
a three time Pro bowler, played nine years in the NFL,
but of course an absolute start during his college all
days as well. He's one only Sean Alexander kind of
have to spend some time with this year on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. And Sean, what tell me how it
(32:07):
came to be that you're the biggest advocate here for
this Freshman of the Year award?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You know it was it was a wild story. Of course,
you know, I've had great relationships with many of the
writers from sports and about seven years ago they asked
me what I helped. They're like, man, we want you
to be a part of college football in some kind
of way. You want to help us pick out the
freshman All American team and doing some of the voting
(32:33):
for some of the players, and and and so I said, yeah, sure,
I'll do that. And you know, it was really great
and and and it's a lot of fun. And then
after the year ended, they said, yeah, we're thinking about
naming the Freshman Player of the Year after somebody. We
want somebody who's you know, had a great college career,
great pro career. It's not a sinker, you know. I mean,
(32:54):
he's young enough that kids can remember him, and also
at the same time, he's old enough where he could
handle this position. But he's alive. And I was like, oh,
let me think about that. So, uh, they call me
up like the next day. It was like, Sean, we
actually were joking. It's it's you. We want you to
be the award recipient of the Shawn Alexander Freshman Player
of the Year. And I was like, wow, okay, and
(33:16):
so so yeah, so they picked me and and we
went on and we we picked the Freshman All American
Team that year, and then and the and the player
of the Year was our first one was the was
Trevor Lawrence, you know, now quarterback with the Jacksonville ga whar.
He's a little freshman at Clemson and they beat Alabama
in the National Championship game, and and he was number one.
Kenneth Gainswell was the second. Will Anderson Bama defensive end
(33:40):
was the number the third tick and and then fourth
was Brock Hours, fifth was Drake May and then six
is Caleb Downs. And so we've had six winners, all
great freshmen we looked up and and these guys have
all become the ones who are in the pros now
have become pros. And a couple of Trevor's number one overall,
but at two, number three overalls, Drake Manwell, Anderson we've
(34:04):
already had kindom games well for the Eagles. He already
sit in the Super Bowl. So our guys were picking
them as these little nineteen year olds and h and
they're blockoming quickly in the pros. And so that's some
dispersion that we wanted to do, was pick out a
great freshman, but also see the future of college football.
We call him the Princeville College Football and where we've
been picking right, it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Sean Alexander joining us on the Doug Gotleig Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. What do you remember about your
your freshman year when you were in college?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You know, my big my biggest game was the LSU game.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know, it was still Alabama's best single singles a
single game rushing games. And uh, and what I remember
about it is is we have all this talent down
the Alabama's team. You got all these guys you know,
all State Tennessee, you know, a year older than me,
all State Alabama that you know, two years older to me.
You got all these world class athletes, and our two,
(35:02):
our starter in the back of both got hurt right
before the game. And uh and they sue me in
the game in the first quarter at one carry, one touchdown,
seventeen yards against LSU. You know, it's still damn LSU
eight verse nine or something like that, you know, And
and they put me in the second half and broke
(35:23):
two seventy yarders and next thing you know, it's two
hundred and ninety one yards on twenty carries and four touchdowns.
And and I just remember playing against bat lers at
night as a freshman and putting your putting your mark
on a team. It's just special. And so those are
the moments I remember as a freshman, you know, just
those big games in the SEC and be able to
(35:44):
go in there and play, you know, all buring. You know,
two weeks later Florida Gators and the SEC championship and
we lost and they end up winning national championship and
kind of knowing how close we are, you know, your
freshman year gets to teach you a lot about the
fight inside you and also whether you can actually go
get thing done. And it was it was really special
for me.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Sean Alexander joining us in the Doug Galthlic show. Yeah,
interesting it would we don't know this, but would have
been interesting to see if you would have transferred after
you know, your first year where you got to start
because of injuries, second year didn't play nearly as much.
Would you even made it to years three and four
if it was twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Four, Yeah, you know what I think I would have
because I'm one of those if I pick you, I
pick you, and we're gonna ride or die, you know.
And it was never like, ooh, you're not going to play.
It was you know, you're a freshman. We've got two
juniors and they're both pretty good, and then they're sophomore.
(36:37):
My sophomore year, they were seniors, and I was one
of those guys that I thought I was the best.
But I also wasn't arrogant enough to feel like they
don't deserve to at least have a shot to go
do it now. I always set them. I told them
the same thing that I that I've always told everybody.
If you give me a chance, though you might not
get it back, but but to take it from somebody
(37:00):
without being on the field, I didn't think that was
the right thing to do.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
What about as a pro, how long did it take
to when you felt really comfortable? As as an NFL
running back?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know, I was buying Ricky Waters and you know
it's ten thousand yards seventy eight touchdowns. You know, he
was that guy, and so you know my you know,
I would come in spotty like that my rookie year,
and and then he got hurt like the third game
of our second of my second season, and that was
you know, you know, thirteen hundred you know, twenty or fifteen,
(37:34):
sixteen touchdowns and then the place was mine and so
it was once again it was the same thing. Like
I believe that if you got a superstar in front
of you, you're respecting, you know, you honoring, because one
day of the shift and you'll be the guy. But
if you get the chance, you leave a mark. And
you know, my first two starts when Ricky got hurt
(37:57):
was you know, was like one seventy two and one
and two touchdowns, you know, so but you know, you
blink your eyes at three hundred yards and three touchdowns
and two games, and so everybody can kind of see.
But that's that's kind of what I believe. I believe
in busting your tail and getting yourself ready to go
and be that guy, but also having enough humility and
(38:17):
patience and grind to to wait it out. But when
it's your term, take it over. And I think that's
why I like the Freshman Player of the Year award,
you know, like I get to go tell those stories
and being like, hey, you're the guy, we all see
it in you, but also have a little humility and
a lot in a strong, strong skin and a strong
(38:38):
work ethic and watch what happens and uh, it becomes
out of fun.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
How can we get more information about your ward?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Well, you know, you know, of course all the social
media is you've got, you know, Instagram and Twitter, and
then we're part of the Maxwell Football Club family of
awards and uh and sore where you can go to
Max dot com board you can go just to my
ward to Seth Shanna Alexander dot com and and and
hear about it. But it's been a lot of fun
(39:07):
growing these relationships with these guys and watching them become
men and uh, and what's really cool is is we've
kind of layered it, you know, so just like the
watch list, you get to see the Alexander Hot thirty
seven and and I start the relationships with those guys
then and around the first of November, we come up
with the Fab fourteen, that's the fourteenth semifinalists. December December one,
(39:30):
right before that championship game, we usually lift out our
top five finalists and then I'll usually call the winner
on Christmas Day and I give them a Merry Christmas.
You're the freshman player, Player of the Year, You're the
baddest freshman in the country. Now go win your bowl
games and uh and it's always a sweet moment with
with the winners with that. And you know, it's been
(39:51):
about three of them have been able to play in
the in the playoffs or the National Championship game afterwards.
So it's been really cool to watch that also, it.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Should be a lot of fun. Sean, You're an awesome ambassador,
not just for this but for all the football. We
really appreciate joining us on box Port Radio.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Hey, thank you, brother, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
All right. That that's our pleasure. That's Shawan Alexander joining
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
I did want to bring Moncu into this conversation of
one we had yesterday, so we were trying to figure
out why people were freaking out about show Heyo, Toni's
bobblehead night. Now he did, of course play well because
(40:32):
he's showed Hey Toni. Apparently there was like there were
gold bobbleheads. Is that right?
Speaker 8 (40:37):
There was.
Speaker 10 (40:38):
It was like a golden ticket and you didn't know
whether you got it until you open the box. So
I've got the last couple of years there has.
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Been like a specialty bobblehead.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
You know, a couple of years ago we had a
Cody Bellinger bobblehead, and very few of them.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
He had the great Away uniform.
Speaker 10 (40:58):
That bobblehead was a window, meaning they handed to you
and you could tell right away is it a white
uniform or is it a gray uniform. This was a
couple of years ago and people went crazy for Cody
Bellinger in a gray Away uniform jersey.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
However you want to look at it.
Speaker 10 (41:12):
So this time we were expecting it to be a
little bit wild as well. The first round of Otani
bobbleheads also had a special different look, but they didn't
announce it. This one was announced a little bit ahead
of time, and it was an all gold babble had.
But there's no window on the box. So you walked in,
they handed you a bobblehead, and then you walked in,
you had to open it. You had to take it
out to see if you got the golden bobblehead, the
(41:33):
golden ticket and brilliant.
Speaker 8 (41:36):
It was actually kind of fun.
Speaker 10 (41:38):
We started with tours, so the tour guests were the
first ones to come in and get their bobbleheads. And
the way I would find out as if they got
it is because I was away, like in center field,
and I could hear someone cheering, and I was like, oh,
they got a gold one because they're cheering.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
There's they're all clapping and cheering, and uh.
Speaker 10 (41:55):
We also found out that the box on the outside
there's a picture of Showy and there's like.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
A moon and Saturn, and on.
Speaker 10 (42:02):
The moon there's a little pawprint. And that's how you
knew it was a golden bobble.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yes, the deats, I like that.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
I like that.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Yeah, but we obviously didn't.
Speaker 10 (42:13):
Know that until you know, after the facts. So if
you look closely, there is a little pawprint. So no,
my bobble box does.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
Not have a Pawprinty.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
It didn't even open mind.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
So here's the question, Jay stew percentage of Dodger fans
who went to the game last night knowing there was
a potential golden bobblehead majority.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, most people did. They announce it beforehand. So I
think that's what explains the massive traffic jam to get
in and people camping out or getting there really early.
The question I have for everybody here is how much
what was the what are those golden things going forward?
Speaker 8 (42:50):
A lot?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Like, are we talking about like fifteen five figures?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
I'll tell you right now, because yesterday they were.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
And is that was that the because that one makes
sense to go there at eight in the morning and
just camp all day, because you could turn zero dollars
into fifteen thousand. That makes that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 10 (43:10):
Like right now, just the first couple of listings on
eBay two thousand plus eighteen hundred, thirty one hundred.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I saw one for seventeen thousand. Maybe that was like,
I don't.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
Even know this one is seventeen thousand.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Hier right now asking price doesn't mean they're going to
get to seventeen thousand. But let's just say that these
golden bobble heads are going in the thousands, and then
the colored ones are going for like in the three hundreds.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, and I'd love to have one of just even
the colored ones that are cool.
Speaker 10 (43:37):
Yeah, no, no, they are cool and obviously has his
dog decoy. But it was like this the first time
around with the first bobblehead, and this time around it
was a little.
Speaker 8 (43:48):
Bit you know, more intense.
Speaker 10 (43:49):
People thought it was like Black Friday and that they
could camp out and I don't know what they try
to start camping out at like seven am, but they
were shoot away. They were like, you can't get in
line at seven am, what are you doing? And then
the line really started around ten thirty am outside the gates,
like there was I don't know where people left their cars.
Speaker 8 (44:07):
I don't know where they parked.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
It was a madness.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
It was it was mad.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
It was crazy. I saw a video footage of this.
People lined up like it was a like a Taylor
Swift concert or honestly, like in line to watch m clark. Yeah, exactly.
It was crazy. And I think Japanese fans flew in
for this game absolutely because they interviewed people in line
and they're like, yeah, we came in for this game.
Speaker 10 (44:29):
And that's why these are going for so much money
is because he is an international.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Star that we were aware international, We were you.
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Know, Americans buying. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Right, which is which just kind of the secret to
the California housing market, which people don't understand right to like,
how can anybody afford like you have you know, Asian
business people, they come in, they smartly buy up with
cash and everything, and and and Persian business people buying
up all of Newport Coast. That's what kind of drives
up with those values. But man to come in for
one baseball game seems like a lot.
Speaker 10 (45:03):
Yeah, no, guys, there were people who sorry, there was
like a one one family who took a Japanese tour
at ten thirty am. They took an English tour at
one pm, and then they took the pregame tour at
three point thirty.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
They I can barely make it through like half a tour.
My add said, creeps up. I get through a tour like,
oh my gosh, I don't care, like, oh this is
from nineteen sixties, Like, don't care. Mightbe this may be
incredible information, but you got past fifteen minutes. I'm out.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
I know they're all a day.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
People were trying to stay in the stadium because they
kept you. They're like you have to exit to get
back in the line. And I was like, listen, if
you want to hide in a bush.
Speaker 8 (45:40):
You can try it.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Try all means.
Speaker 8 (45:43):
I'm not going to stop you.
Speaker 10 (45:44):
I'm just telling you I've never seen security work as
hard as they've been working today.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, we'll see what was like, looking back, I'm pretty
sure that was like a fire hazard, a violation of something,
looking back, can't the Dodgers just have as many bobbleheads
as there are seats from the stadium.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Yeah, but what's a supply and demand thing?
Speaker 8 (46:03):
It is a supply actually this time.
Speaker 10 (46:05):
Usually the Dodgers, by the way, are the ones that
give the most giveaways. We usually do forty thousand giveaways
for any giveaway out of how many seats.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
It's like, is it fifty five thousand dollars?
Speaker 10 (46:16):
Fifty six thousand is a capacity, but that includes the
player of security workers.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
There's not fifty five thousand seats. There's probably about fifty thousand,
fifty seats.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
We're talking like eighty percent.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Why do why do only eighty percent get the giveaway?
Speaker 10 (46:28):
Well, this time, Doug, they actually had fifty thousand giveaways.
They didn't they update, they didn't. Everyone should have got one.
They did not. That was not public information. That wasn't told.
They did up.
Speaker 8 (46:42):
It ten thousand more this time.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
So the somewhere there's that George somewhere, there's a George
kiss stands up there, Who's who who? He's very much
in charge of this and He's like, what if we
give away just forty thousand this time and save some money. No,
let's do fifty thousand.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
They're already spending a lot of money on show Hay's contract.
Like there, it's it was a wise investment. I mean,
I can't even tell you like the valuation of all
of this show hey Mania. I mean, they're they're gonna
get their money money's worth.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Last night, like literally last night would be one of
those nights where you would hear Joe, Joe Davis or
whoever say, I mean, if you went into a Hollywood
script pitch meeting, they'd kick out of the room.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
You hate this, You hate that.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Because decoy, his dog is on the bubblehead correct decoy
throughout the first.
Speaker 8 (47:32):
Pitch, throughout with he ran it to him in the first.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Pitch, Show Hay steps up first first bat and it's
a home run.
Speaker 10 (47:39):
It's ridiculous. And by the way, they had been practicing
this with decoy. He had been out there for like
two weeks, like the tours were five, right, Yeah, like
they were training, they were they they didn't do it,
you know, they did a couple of times, and it
was fun to see him doing that. Like the first
time the tours were like, what is he doing?
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Oh, he's practicing with decoy were and got to see that.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
Lots of tour guests got to see it. Yeah, because he.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Had a practice and then one of the times he
used the restroom on the field.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, how do you how do you.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Know all this about tours? Do you give away tours?
Have you been on a bunch of these tours? You
seem to doing a lot. Hey, you give the tours Dodger.
Speaker 10 (48:16):
I mean I haven't, and I now am elite, so
I now run the operations day to day, but I
gave tours for many years. I would keep you more
entertained than fifteen minutes, Doug.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Really, he's an ambassador of Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah, I had no idea. I love Dodger Stadium, but
I that tour. I'd wont like a personalized tour. I'm
a snob like that. There's a group of people like, say, coach,
here's a group of people like nah nah.
Speaker 10 (48:41):
Yeah, I definitely have your attention for more than fifteen minutes,
not with boring stuff.
Speaker 8 (48:47):
Not that you're boring, I just I know what you
mean about the historical stuff.
Speaker 10 (48:50):
Sometimes it's yeah, and especially yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
This is where Sandy Kofax spit out his gum and
then the gum's been put into a k.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Especially yes, especially if you do it in like a
nineteen twenties baseball The hair is where Sandy Kofax spit
out his gum the day before the Sabbath that he
took off because it was roche hash An.
Speaker 8 (49:15):
That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
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