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September 2, 2024 41 mins

Gottlieb and Beyer in for Dan as they share what they loved and what they hated most from the sports weekend. Dan and Doug welcome former Pro-Bowler Donte Whitner onto the show to talk about the 49ers, the Ricky Pearsall incident, and other NFL headlines. Plus, what was the best part of this past summer? 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
WHA but Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app
Welcome in, boys off for one more day, They're back tomorrow,
the guts, You're ready for the upcoming NFL season. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome in. Dan Byer alongside, I'm Doug Gottlieb. But that's

(00:28):
Jason Stewart. And it's interesting, guys, because I don't know
if you know the backstory with this, Jace, do you
want to turn our love and hate segment into the good,
the bad, the ugly? Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
No, no, no, So the background is this. We were
doing our production meeting and Dan's like, didn't Dan Patrick
used to do the good, the bad and the ugly?
Do they still do that? So we asked Joel Elliott,
who runs the board for the show every day, and
he says, I guess what Dan stopped doing that? And
then I guess he just takes calls nowadays like what
did you love best from the weekend or something?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
So I don't think I don't I don't. I don't
think he did the good, the bad, the ugly. I
could be wrong, and again that this is a little
bit like the back shoulder throw in football. Okay, I
am going to claim to be the one who did
the Good, the Bad, the Ugly, going back to my
days at ESPN Radio, and it was copied by Eric

(01:27):
Casilius who then took it to do on his show. Okay,
and how do I know because I'm actually a huge
spaghetti Western fan, huge spaghetti western fan. Which is where
the sound, the good, the bad, the ugly, that's where
the movie was actually was. It's actually a movie the good,
the bad, the.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
When there's that thing is right, somebody's gotta be a
better whistler than me. I don't know if I don't
know what's going on my whistling today, Can you, Dan,
can you whistle better than I can?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I can't do the I can't do the loud one
with your teeth, so with the fingers.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, is there a name for that? Like we have
names for everything, we don't have a name for that.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
And yeah, I don't know what it is, but I
do want to say something, so you know, I used
to I used to anchor in the mornings during the
Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio years ago, and
it had been a while since I had been. You know,
we do your show in the afternoon, so our schedules
don't match up for listening wise. So Dan and the
dan Nets did the best and worst of the weekend.

(02:36):
That's what they would do. And so no disrespect to them,
it's just our schedules don't match up in what they do.
But you know, we do a similar thing with the
with the Love and Hate on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Sure, I mean, I listen, these are not these are
no these And as much as it sounds like I'm
slamming Cassilli, it's like, look there you go. Oh so good.
M So, I mean like, look, Colin used to do,

(03:09):
uh what did he used to do? I used to
do something when you go around the country, spanning the globe,
spanning the globe, right, used to do spanning the globe.
So spanning the globe was wildly successful back when he
was at ESPN Radio. And so we copied that and
we just did We called it zoning, and we would

(03:31):
do a person from every time zone.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
So the idea is like I'll just I'll admit it.
It's the old aerosmith's line, which is amateur's borrow professional steel.
So that's what took place there was the I was
an absolute professional in that one. So anyway, do you
wander do the good, the bad, the uglier?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Do you want to do love and hate or best
and worst of the weekend? What do you want to do?
Let's do Jason.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Stewart, Yeah, I mean Joel's got all the sounds for
Levin hate.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Alright.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Let's douce the nation, the damn Patrick nation to this.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Let's see a little love and hate, all right? What
we love from the weekend. I got a bunch of
things I love for the weekend. We'll start with a
personal note. The Baltimore Orioles took two out of three

(04:25):
from the Colorado Rockies. But dear friend of mine, Matt Holliday,
got a chance to go back watch his son play
for the Orioles against the Rockies, and they had him
throw out the first pitch to his son. But it's
the in the first game, Jackson Holiday, who's a rookie
for the Baltimore Orioles, hit a triple off the wall,

(04:47):
and they showed like flashback videos to when Jackson was
like three years old and his dad was playing for
the Rockies and he you know, hit like a whiffle
ball and went running around the bases Like I thought,
that was really cool, really really cool.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
My love on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
What do you got there, Jay Stu?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
We just touched upon it last last hour. But I
really enjoy watching Caitlin Clark at her peak in those
in those brief moments when she does a step back
and the logo threes and those passes. That reminds me
of what I fell in love with at Iowa. Now

(05:26):
he hasn't had as many moments in the pros, but
they are getting more and more with each game. If
you haven't figured it out. On Friday night, she was
the subject of several cheap shots by the Scott and
I love seeing on Twitter everyone come to her defense.
It's strange that there is a right leaning twist to it.

(05:48):
I don't know why the pro Caitlin Clark taking up
for her when she's abused like that is like a
right leaning take for whatever reason on Twitter, but I
think it was unfair on Friday. I love seeing her
win that game, and then what yesterday she won again
and and Doug, you could speak to this because you
were a point guard and you're a coach. I think

(06:10):
those early season struggles with the fever was much more
about these players trying to get to know her passes, right.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think it's some of it. I don't think it's
all of it. I think some of it is that
she had. It's a it's a much higher level. She
still turns the ball over too much, So some of
it is knowing you don't need a home run pass.
Some of it is them learning how to play with
somebody who's a creative passer. So I think there's there's
there's various levels to it, various levels to it.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I also think that the Olympic break did her a
world of good. No question, she needed the time off.
You called that, by the way, so and I think
everybody needed it. I think there's this different feel about
Caitlin Clark now after that that month off. Kelsey Mitchell
also wasn't available early for the Indiana fever and she
had like thirty three yesterday or something. So that also

(06:59):
helps the stat from the Caitlin Clark report. Did you
see this that you were talking about, Jason, was that
of this seventeen percent of the flagrant follows the season
you know, they were on Caitlin Clark and all that
seventeen percent eighty percent of those are committed by the sky.
I don't know if that's official or not, but that's
what was circulating, and it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And one person plays for this guy who's a rival
of calig Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I mean, actually it's it's kind of genius. I don't
know if she meant to be that way, but it's
kind of genius. And that I had no idea she
existed on this earth until she committed a couple of fouls, right,
made a name for herself. All right, Uh, Dan Byra,
would you left in the weekend?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
I'll tell you what. In the end, it didn't. It
didn't pay off to cheat. But I love Sahith Thigala
self imposing a two stroke penalty because he believes that
he struck the sand when he was hitting a shot
out of the bunker at the Tour Championship. And why
is this great? Especially when you hear what was at

(08:05):
stake is that it's the honesty. And he said, listen,
I don't know if it's one hundred percent sure, but
if you asked me one way or another, did I
think I hit the sand, yes, or no, I think
I did, And that is what is great about golf
and say hit Thigala ended up costing himself two and
a half million dollars. He didn't know that at the time,

(08:26):
but that's what it would have cost him. Is he
would have tied Klin Morikawa for second at the Tour
Championship yesterday as Scotty Scheffler ended up winning, but he
also would have tied Klin Morikawa and could have picked
up an official World Golf Ranking victory. They because of
the staggered start of the Tour Championship where Scheffler starts
out at ten under power and his shots ahead. The

(08:48):
World Golf rankings don't look at that. They look at
what your actual score was, and so Thigala would have
gotten an official World Golf Ranking victory because he had.
Marikawa would have tied for the for the lowest score,
but it didn't happen because he called the penalty out
himself on Saturday, something that other players in the sport
of golf would not do.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay, I got one another thing. I love college football
being back. Just love it. And look, I'm we're all
fully aware that the level of play is not that
of the NFL and not the NFL level of play
to start the season's gonna be great. But I don't
know who has loved college football being back, and you know,

(09:31):
Mile Motyn it nothing short of remarkable what Mike Gundy
has done. I mean, you go and look historically at
how bad Oaklham State football has been and now completely
sold out all season long. They got I think a
tough game with Arkansas this weekend at home, but uh,

(09:51):
creating a program kind of from scratch a little bit right,
he stripped it down and rebuilt it. But just watching
college football, the school colors, the band, still love it,
not perfect, still love it.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I liked watching our guy that the Tommy Trojan missed
with the sword last night. He had a tough time
with that.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, there was something going on underneath the service.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
There was they played on the turf last night, which
is what UNLV does. Raiders play on grass, and so.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I thought, I think there's still a chance if you
talked to him today that he pulled a muscle, you know,
there's something an elbow injury or like, because he he
thought there was going to be some given that there wasn't
and we all we've all kind of felt that before.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
Our resident hater is Jason Stewart. I'm sure you got
a lot of am O go.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
So this is going to be masked. My hate is
going to be massed to promote Sho Hao Tani. Sho
Hao Tani has lived up to the contract. He lived
up to the hype. So few free agents ever live
up to what they signed for, and Shohy has lived

(11:09):
up to it. And we haven't even gotten his pitching
arm yet, and so I have to give him credit.
But this is what I hate about what he did
this weekend. So I don't know if you're aware of this.
If you were on Twitter when he did it, you're
definitely aware of it. All the Baseball Dorks told us
that in the history of baseball, it goes back one
hundred and forty some odd years, Nobody in the history
of baseball has ever hit forty three home runs and

(11:30):
stolen forty three bases in the same season. Nobody's ever
done that. The reason why we don't know that because
forty three and forty three just doesn't quite have the
ring doesn't come off the tongue as much. But this
is what I don't want to hear, because he is
forty fourth last night. If he steals his forty fourth tonight,
I don't want the same baseball nerds to be like,

(11:51):
hey sho, hey o Tani, the first player in the
history of baseball to have forty four stolen bases and
forty four home runs. How about we do this. Let's
see what he comes up up at the end of
the year, and then you can make that grand proclamation
of what he did. We don't have to go home
run by home run on this one. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Okay, Dan Byer, Okay. I'm gonna stick with golf, but
I'm gonna make this personal. If you guys ever broke
in a club on the course, of course you've seen
me golf right, then you may have done it out
of anger. I did not do it out of anger.
I broke a club on a swing, and I broke
a pitching wedge, and it went awful feeling because now

(12:37):
you're like, listen, a pitching wedge is a club that
you would like to use and would use it maybe
more often than say a six hire. Like if you
don't have a six iron, you can hit five or seven.
I think pitching wedge a little bit more focused on
what you want to dial in. So I am now
without a pitching wedge because it's snapped right on the

(12:57):
hozzle after trying to hit a shot that was right
at the edge of a bunker below my feet. But
to make things worse at the course that I did
it the New TPC Wisconsin, just north of Madison. The
day that I play, guys, did I played okay? I didn't.
I didn't play great, but I played okay and was like, boy,

(13:20):
it's a tough track. Some kids shot fifty nine that
same day that I did, So like this realization of
how actually bad I am at golf. I thought the
course was was a tough course. Steve Stricker a huge,
huge hand because it's basically his course in the design
of it. And I left being like, man, this is
going to be tough. Champions Tour is going to be

(13:41):
here next year. And some kid goes and lights it
up for a fifty nine on the exact same day
that I played, Absolutely demoralizing and it's why I hate golf.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Doug, did you hear that? Did you hear that hate
was masked as just a big humble brack.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It was. There were several humble bracks, a lot of
humble brack. I played at this incredible course. I had
a week of golf. You Sluman, Steve Stricker.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's just for people to relate. That's the work I've
played with Steve Stricker.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Dann, We're messing with you.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
I know, I know, I know, I get. I'm going
with a bit.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, I got, I got some of my hey this weekend.
I I'm just annoyed by the Colorado thing. That again,
I understand when it took place. It took place Thursday,
But like if we if we wrap up what happened
in college football, it's the fact that there's an expression

(14:44):
in coaching you're either coaching it or you're allowing it, right,
And all Deon Sanders has tried to do is tell
us how great Shadoor Sanders is. And look, I've coached
my kid. I know it's not easy. I understand it's
not easy. But less than two minutes to go and

(15:04):
North Dakota State has one time out and Shador Sanders
tries to pad his stats. Ever, there's no possible logical
understanding reason other than that, right, and Dion his dad,
but also as head coach, like Nazi, he's a great kid.
He was trying to get his teammate a score. And

(15:25):
then the reporters they're all in on it too. They're like, well,
your dad said you were trying to get him a
score instead of just asking like what were you think
on the first down? And then Store is like, yeah,
I got to learn from that. Well if it wasn't
a mistake, why'd you have to learn from it? The
fact that Dion can't even publicly say what is he doing?
We're trying to win a game. He's trying to pad
his stats and win a Heisman trophy Like that ain't

(15:47):
how we roll here, you know, And and like look,
the difference is pretty obvious. JJ McCarthy. I don't know
how good he is, but the Minnesota Vikings seem to
think he's really really good. And Michigan last year they
go to Penn Sate, they didn't throw it once in
the second half. You know why, because all they want,
all they came there to do is to win the game.

(16:10):
And I just I'm embarrassed for the coaching profession that
you have a head coach, especially one who receives the
shine that Deon Santa does, and he doesn't. He can't
even hold his kid accountable. Like this is what people
hate about people coaching their kids. Most of us who
coach our kids hold our kid to a higher, higher standard,

(16:31):
because that's what it means to be a coach's kid.
You gotta be perfect and then even better than that.
So I just I'm still mad about that, infuriated by
how that looks anyone else. We're good, all right, We're good,
and that's love and hate. He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottlieb.

(16:54):
How badly do the Niners need to win?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Or do they need to get the Trent Williams done
deal done in order to win? We'll discuss next.

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Speaker 2 (18:00):
Dan, we do this thing every year right where we
act like only one team's under pressure. But I do
think that there is a certain point which the Niners, Hey,
they've they've climbed the mountain. They've gotten there. But Rock
Perty's very likely to get paid for next year, so
you know, they're just trying to manage and keep these

(18:20):
things together. They got the Auke deal done, still waiting
on the Trent Williams thing done. And Trent Williams is
a guy that he's shown he'll set out for money
in the past. Where are you on the Niners heading
into the season.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Now, this is the last shot of this window, so
I think it's it's right here because the window changes
after party gets paid.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I completely agree with you, Completely agree with you. But
how close are they? Are they better than last year?
Are they different than last year? You know a guy
who would know is Dante Whitner. They called him Dante
Hitner back when he played for the Bills and of
course the Niners. He covers them for NBC Sports Bay Area. Okay,
so Dante, assuming they get Trent Williams back, is this

(19:04):
team better than last year's team?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I believe that they're similar than last year's team. I
think one area where they're better is on the defensive line.
They revamped that front. They went out and got Malie Collins,
who's a big run stuff for a front. He'll keep
Fred Warner in that line back and Core Free. They
brought in Elliott, They brought in Matos for that defensive

(19:30):
end that can set the edge, understands his job, that's
his primary focus. And they went out and got Leonard
Floyd to tandem with Nick Bosa to be able to
take a lot of pressure off the secondary and get
back to the dominant defense run defense, that they're customed
to the plane, and we know that that feeds into
what Kyle Shanahan wants to do with run the ball
on offense RPOs. And they have all their playmakers back.

(19:52):
Rob Purty has taking another step forward. So I think
this team is better than last year's team, but they
have to prove it. They have to go out there
and execute, have to stay healthy, and they have to
get Trent Williams most importantly, what were.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
The challenges that you guys faced in trying to get
back to the Super Bowl after falling to the Ravens,
because I would assume there have to be similar challenges
that this team is going to face after falling short
to the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Well, the challenges come internally and each individual has to
look themselves in the mirror in every year and say,
am I dedicated? Am I willing to put the work
in inside the building and outside the building to help
get us back to the championship game. In the NFC Championships,
and we had a bunch of veterans who were hungry
and who were in contract years, and we went out

(20:37):
and we performed and then we had some luck we
stay healthy. So I think that this forty nine Ers organization,
and they have a culture of consistently competing for championships,
and they have the individuals in that locker room. So
I would say the biggest, the hardest thing is each
individual looking themselves in the mirror and actually putting the
work in each year to have the outcome that they've had.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
They talked about using McCaffrey less in the regular season,
keep him fresher for the postseason. Is that a reality?
Can they actually get away with that?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I don't think so. I haven't seen it in the past.
Kyle Shanahan hasn't done that in the past, even with
Christian McCaffrey. So I know that this forty nine Ers
coaching staff knows that this offense runs through Christian McCaffrey.
Sometimes you can just give him the ball, it doesn't
have to be blocked up properly, and he's going to
make something happen. He's their second best route runner on

(21:29):
offense as a receiver, so he's a thread out of
the backfield. So this offense runs through Christian McCaffrey. I
don't think they'll try to take any off of his load.
If you've seen him in training camp, this year. He
looks phenomenal other than when he hurt the calf. So
before the calf he was phenomenal. But he looks like
he's going to be ready to go week one versus
the Jets.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
How does how does the situation like what happened to
Ricky Pearsall over the weekend? Were you were you with
Pearsall at all of the the in the most recent days,
you know, leading up to this incident on Saturday where
you know, there was an attempted robbery and for those
that missed it suffered a gunshot wound to the chest
that did not strike any vital organs and Pearsall was

(22:10):
released in the hospital yesterday. But but how does that
sort of incident affect this team? And have you have
you spoken with Pearsall recently?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
The ironic thing is I was a Ricky Piersall at
an autograph signing in Daily City and we changed numbers.
We spoke about the NFL season, a little bit about
him being healthy and being ready to go week one.
We changed numbers. I left, went to the airport, He
left and went, you know, to a shopping area in
San Francisco, and then I get a call say then

(22:42):
he was somebody tried to rob him and he got shot.
So I immediately sent him a message. He returned my
message yesterday said everything was good.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
We were just together, and you know, it's just a
learning experience for a lot of other guys out there.
You have to always be aware just surroundings. You have
to understand that you're a target, whether you want to
believe so or not. So it's probably best to not
wear a lot of those things in public right now,
especially with the economic situations that's going on. And I'm

(23:12):
glad that Ricky came out healthy. It was only God
on their side. When you get shot in the chest
and it doesn't hit any internal organ, that's God on
your side. So I'll pray for speedy recovery for Ricky
and you know, for you know, peace for his family
through the situation.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, that is it is absolutely crazy, Just a crazy,
crazy story. Dante Whitner joining US NBC Sports Bear Area
Corner pro bowler. He's joining US. I'm Doug Gottlieban for
Dan and the Dan Nets here on the Dan Patrick
Show on Fox Sports Radio. The you know, the Seahawks
gone gone through some changes obviously, the Rams. You know,

(23:50):
you lose the most dynamic defensive player. Uh, maybe in
the entire league still in Aaron Donald, and you know
the Cardinals are fairly competitive. Is there any legit challenger
to the Niners in their division?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
So.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I think that the forty nine ers are above, heads,
above and beyond more talented than all those units. They
all the forty nine ers have more continuity, they have
more veteran leadership, and they've proven that they can get
it done. And in the NFL, when you consecutive, consecutively
beat teams in your division, there's a mental hurdle it
they have to get over in order to beat the

(24:30):
forty nine ers and then come into Santa Clara and
beat the forty nine ers at home. So they have
to prove that they can do that, which is going
to be a tough feat. You have that championship, DNA,
it's tough to take it. So it takes me back
to the times when we had those clashes with the
Seattle Seahawks, you know, during the horrball days. And I
don't just I don't see anybody in the in the

(24:52):
division that has that type of mental fort two in
the type of physical for or two that the forty
nine ers consistently have put on display. So I don't
don't think so. The four niners are above are the
best team you know, by far in that division.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
That may be a perfect transition to what your former
coach is now facing with the Chargers. Do they have
enough personnel to be successful? How do you think the
Bolts will do in your one under Jim Marball.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think they'll do great. I went on the Ky
Adams Show earlier this offseason and I predicted that I
believe that he'll have the LA Chargers team in the
AFC Championship. Me knowing, yeah, me knowing Jim Harball. And
a lot of this is, you know, a lot of
it is just attention to detail. It's holding guys accountable,

(25:39):
which is why you hear a lot of organizations. Once
Jim Harball leaves, he ruffles some feathers because he knows
how to get it done and it's going to be
his way of the highway, and that's where everybody involved.
And then he has this thing where you're not going
to be late for any meeting, You're not going to
have any mental errors, You're going to be early. You're
going to be a team player, whether you like it

(26:01):
or not. And then having a quarterback, right, he's going
to have a running game. He's going to have a
dominant running game, a running game, a quarterback, and two
edge rushers that can get after quarterbacks. This is the
perfect situation for Jim Harbaugh to make his arrival back
onto the NFL scene. So I'll predict that he's going
to have this Chargers team in the AFC Championship.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Dante Whitner, Dante, great stuff as always, man, Thanks so
much for joining us here on the Dan Patrick Show.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Thank you, guys. Have a good one.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Dante Whitner joined us, of course, you can see his
work on NBC Sports Bay Area with Dan Byro. I'm
Doug Gollybian for Dan and the Dan Nets. That is
a crazy story, right where you're hanging out with a
guy and then all of a sudden he get shot.
He got shot in the chest and then was fine.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, spent a night in the hospital and it's crazy,
but it's not as crazy when you consider that Brian
Robinson and the Commanders was remember karjacked two years ago.
Go leading up to the season, and he was shot
a couple of times, you know, in the leg ended
up returning and playing that season. But this is just,

(27:10):
I mean, it's just it's it's it's crazy to think
that this happened again. Yes, like, but it did. And yeah,
thank goodness that he is he is okay, and hopefully
he makes, you know, the type of recovery that that
Brian Robinson ended up making.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Uh, it's the It's the Dan Patrick Show here on
Fox Sports Radio with Dan Byer. I'm Doug gallib Okay,
So what is your level of buy in on the Niners.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
It's tough, Like I thought that Trent Williams thing was
just I don't want to show up to training camp
and maybe because the season is so long, maybe you
don't want Trent Williams playing all seventeen games. This allows
him to to, you know, do what he needs. But
now with a Yuke in, they are all in on
the season. But I don't know on how that sort

(28:02):
of off season is conducive to this season. And he
talked about the challenges of trying to come back from
a Super Bowl loss, and remember they made it to
the NFC Championship Game, where then Richard Sherman had the
breakup pass on Michael Crabtree and the interception by Malcolm
Smith to steal it for the Seahawks. But they were
knocking on the door again of a back to back

(28:23):
Super Bowl and then is not easy to do when
you lose it. And I just think that there are
challenges in trying to take that whole road back. I mean,
they were an overtime away from winning a Super Bowl
and now you got to do it all again. I
just think that there are going to be hiccups this
season that we just can't see right now. With the
forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh, I don't think there's any question. There's any question.
I'll tell you. The thing I do like that they've
done is many teams I think we talked about this
a lot. Teams that lose Super Bowls, it usually takes
them longer to get back than does ten teams that
win the Super Bowls. And why is that? And we
have this a lot with team that when they go
to conference championship games or conference finals in basketball ahead

(29:05):
of maybe ahead of schedule, is that your results of
the playoffs make you think you're closer than you are.
And so you're like, oh, one player here or one
player there, like that doesn't get you over the hump.
You got to continue with whatever kind of got you there.
And that's what I like about the Niners is to
this point they haven't made drastic moves. They're trying to

(29:26):
run it back, and I do think like this is
kind of the last year of it right where you
just kind of try and get through. And you know,
Deebo Samuel's the guy they resigned, was that they going
back to last year. It's basically two year deal, so
you see, if you can keep him healthy. Trent Williams
like he's still very good, He's not what he was
a couple of years ago, and so you got to
factor all that in with the new contract that's coming

(29:47):
for brock Perty. So I like the fact that they
haven't changed a ton and that they'll have more cohesion.
But again, we've seen so many of these teams, not
named the Patriots lose the Super Bowl and then fall
off the next year that that has happened a lot
a lot in this league. The thing I think it's
interesting is I think the NFC is incredibly competitive. You know,

(30:12):
for a long time we've talked about the AFCU, but
I think that division. I think the Rams offensively can
be special, and defensively, we'll see without Aaron Donald, you know,
like I actually think the Cardinals are gonna be pretty good.
But the bigger one is, you know you had Eagles,
you got The NFC North, I think is better across
the board. Obviously we saw how good the Lions were

(30:32):
last year. Well, I think we all think the Packers
should be better with most of their whole team back
and with a new defense. The NFC South is really
kind of the unknown. It doesn't look great on paper,
but oftentimes that that surprises m Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
The only thing that I would say to that in
the NFC overview because the team that I'm picking going
to the super Bowl is the Detroit Lions. And the
thing that I love about Detroit is I haven't heard
anything about Detroit this preseason. And I think that is
aside from a Jamier Gibbs injury that he should be
fine for this Sunday's game against the Rams, there's nothing.

(31:08):
There's nothing from Detroit, and I think that is exactly
how you want it. I think there's questions in Philadelphia,
there's questions in Dallas. You mentioned the NFC South. I
think we think Atlanta can challenge Tampa Bay, but that
in that you know NFC North Division, where we think
the Bears and Packers are going to be the teams,
and they're the ones that they're getting the hype. I

(31:28):
actually love that no one is talking about the Lions.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's fair point, pair point, and we don't know. You
know what we'll see from the Vikings with Sam Donald's
quarterback Caleb Williams on paper appears to be a little better,
But you're right for alliance. For a team that has
been thrust into the spotlight after years and years of misery,
you would think there'd be some trash talks, some bragged dosies,
anything off the field, and Dan Campbell's bunch hasn't given

(31:54):
us any of that.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Nothing at all. It's hazy nothing.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
It's almost like they don't exist, which is how most
of those guys, most of those coaches like it. He's
Dan Byrom Doug Gottlie. Many consider Labor Day a symbolic
end the summer, so we'll do it like a summer
memories drop next to The Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
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Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's the Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio. So today
is the official or unofficial last day of summer, right Dan?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Unofficial? Yes, the official is in like three weeks.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Okay. If I have a piece, I have a I've
become a big note ticker if I were to write
down the ten best things from the summer twenty twenty
four sports because there's lots of other nonsports stuff which
have been really fun in the summer, but sports wise,
what would what would be on the list? We're brainstorming here,

(33:06):
so Jay Stu you can hop in this one as well. Joel,
you can happen if you know something.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, I'll start right off the gate. I always think
that the the Olympics, yep, bring you know, would bring
stuff to the headlines. Lebron crowning himself when the French
fans were cheering for that, Leon Marshaan at the the
arena definitely a top ten moment for me this summer

(33:36):
and then he obviously crowned himself on the metal stand,
which was fine, but when he thought they were cheering
for him and they weren't one of the best, one
of the best.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
We can I add subcategories to that, one that these
don't need to be independent, These don't need to be
a part of the official list. But breakdancer Raygun was
amazingly amusing the reaction to her, Yeah, I mean she
was off just awful. And then the pole vaulter who
had the junk interfere with the gold.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Oh yeah, two.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Of the biggest takeaways from the Olympics. I don't know
if that that says the Olympics were a success or not, but.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
The three of the funniest things that have happened.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
And I guess that's what sicks for us because I
don't watch the Olympics. I just watch how people react
to the Olympics, and that's the only stuff that was
on my to.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I feel me either, but I would say, like Steph
Curry four three is to win the gold medal, Yeah,
it was pretty awesome. And then the Martian dude, I thought, watching, Uh,
why am I blanking on famous swimmer holds? All the records.
Cheering for Marshan to break his records was pretty amazing

(34:46):
as well.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
I'll tell you what. Another thing that I think we're
going to get sick of but is funny is the
Katie ledecky mean yea where she's in the lane and uh,
actually she's waiting.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
She one and then she's waiting for everybody else. Well
she's like, she's like, I wish she would have done
the whole lookier watch thing, Like.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Yeah, it's so great. There's just there's also just the
screenshot if she's the only swimmer in the picture. Our
buddy Nicope here at Fox Sports Radio, I think I
got a family member that that texted him or said
to him, why is Katie Ladecki swimming in a different
direction as all the other swimmers? Yeah, because she was
that far ahead.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I can't think of anything baseball, So tell me something baseball.
I know, I know Showeytan is awesome. I know he's
gonna be the first forty four or forty four guy.
I know he's gonna, you know, gonna be a fifty
to fifty guy or get close to. But what what
is the one thing from the summer.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Summer of Judge, Aaron Judge leading the Yankees, done another
historic season.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, do we have anything football wise?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yes? What you ready for this?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Off season hard Knocks with the New York Giants.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Great, that's going it was.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
It was one of those things that I did not
think would be anything, and it turned out to be
the greatest thing. It reminds me of Boy Meets World.
I was not in on Boy Meets World when it
was When it was on and my buddy in college said,
I love Boy Meets World. So I started to watch
it because he watched it, And now to this day,

(36:28):
I still love to watch old Boy Meets World episodes.
I can't believe that I wasn't on that train earlier.
But that's how I felt about this Hard Knocks as
I was ready to poop poo it. Then I saw
one episode ten minutes in and I was I was hooked.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I've never watched one episode of boy it Meets World.
Is it worth tapping into?

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yeah, it's It's it's just good family sitcom that is funny.
I think the characters are great. Yeah, I love Boy
Meets World.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
No, the I think the the opposite of the off
season Hard Knocks this training camp, Hard Knocks has gotten
almost zero buzz, like what's going on. The narratives just superficial.
I watched the no I feel like they finished one.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
They've been well. I mean the big thing is you're
not in the GM room, right, I mean there's no
there's no Ryan Pace there, whereas everything with the Giants
with Joe Shane and it was really really interesting Ryan Poles, right,
Ryan Poles.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yeah, the old one was Ryan Pace.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm sorry, Ryan Poles, my mistake. Ryan Poles wanted nothing,
wants nothing to do with sharing any sort of any
sort of the stuff going on behind the scenes, whereas
yeahs did.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
And as we found out that mccaskeys don't want them
to swear, so there's no swearing. It's a really it's
a it's a difficult recipe and it makes you wonder
on how they made it work early, like how did
it become so good?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
More access and the cuts they don't do the brutal
cuts anymore.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Well, yeah, and now I'll tell you what having the
only the one cutdown day like you used to have
the two that you could you know, maybe a guy
would be bounced early. But you're also then guessing on
who makes it and who doesn't make it. Yeah, there's
a lot that, but I think that the point of
the Giants and the inside access to that GM room

(38:14):
and the conversations with the coaches and being candid and
the combine is everything that we wanted, and in fact,
I think that's what we also loved about the original
Hard Knocks, the Joe philbin O Cho Sinko conversation, that's
what we loved about it. But we don't get that anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
No, we don't, And I don't understand the overprotective nature
from these teams. Like every Hard Knocks I've ever ever watched,
you walk away from loving everything about the team, like
they do a great job of painting in a way
in which, you know, there's usually very few negatives. The
only one was when they did the Bengals and what's

(38:54):
his name, Harrison, the Steeler who was there for one year,
Like he just didn't want Harris James Harrison. He was
just he was so in character the whole time, You're like, dude, stop.
But other than that, I can't remember disliking anybody who's
been on Hard Knocks. You know, I thought, you know,
JJ Watt was super cheesy and over the top and
practices being on like field seven over by himself, you know,

(39:16):
when he didn't need to and they're filming it, like
making swim moves, like come on, some of that's been
cheesy in the past. But yeah, this year just has
not hit. And I don't think it's because the Bears
aren't interesting. I think they're portraying themselves in the least
interesting possible way, as if there's something to protect themselves.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
From anything else. Yeah, I got I got another thing
in the world of golf because golf has just been
doa for most of the year because of the split
between the PGA Tour and Lived Golf. And I had
a buddy ask me, what did you remember about the
majors this past year and ago? That they were awful?
That was my immediate response, and then I said that

(39:55):
was actually wrong, because the PGA Championship was exciting and
the best thing about it was actually the US Open,
Rory McElroy and Bryson to Shambo going down to the
wired Rory missing the two putts on sixteen and eighteen.
But it was also the evolution of Bryson to Shambo
becoming this guy that now everybody was loving and this
this new personality and to see his excitement, and it
started at the PGA and carried over to the US Open.

(40:17):
As a golf fan, that's what you want. And on
of course, like Pinehurst number two, it was great theater.
It didn't carry over anywhere. There wasn't any lasting effect
of it. But you want to talk about summer memories,
I'll remember the twenty twenty four US Open and how
it ended.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Well, I'm going to remember. Was it the PGA Championship
where the best golfer in the world got arrested? Yes,
sunny show. Yeah, I was going to read I remember
that one.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Yeah, it wasn't May, but close enough.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
That's the unofficial start of summer.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
That counts. Okay, that count? Joel?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Does that count? Does May count? May counts? Right? I
mean it's this count golf or.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Some schools are out. Sure, I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, yeah, all right. Any any of your other best
ten best things this summer? I do think ray Gun
definitely tops the list, as as does the favorite pole
vaulter of Jason.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I love how no one mentioned anything with the NBA finals.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Jason Tatum's gonna be posted.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, oh that was the summer.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, I guess we'll never know. That's me mocking
Jason Tatum. That was Yeah, that's that's all it was.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, that was that was I guess they'll never know.
For Dan Byer, for Jason Stewart. From my guy Joel,
I'm Doug Gottlieb. This has been the Dan Patrick Show.
Your summer, well, your summer's over in like fifteen hours,
so go make the best of it and the boys
will be back tomorrow. You can check out The Doug
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