September 3, 2024 • 21 mins
Doug riffs on the comments made by Roddy White about the Clemson football team. Doug reacts to Tom Brady's take on the Ravens. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart finds annoying today. Plus, Rob Ninkovich makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottli Show. Hears in
the bonus with Doug Gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Doug talking about the back around, running out welcome
in how you doing good? Good to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Roddy White said something on Twitter which has people really
really bothered. It has the right calling him a racist,
which is a weird one, right, and it has people
freaking out because well, it's something we all know to
be true, but somehow we can't seem to have like
a reasonable discussion about it. Basically, he said that Clemson's
(00:48):
been losing because they got too many white dudes, right,
and then he was shamed, and our kick wants to
call him the racist, and yeah, that's generally about it.
And so we get to this discussion where it's really amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's really amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Statistical analysis shows you that the NFL at positions of
speed and explosiveness, it's been dominated by the black athletic
now dominated by does not mean only right, but it's
(01:37):
been dominated by I'm talking about you know, you look
at wide receiver and cornerback just speed athletic positions. There
is an intelligence quotient to both of them as well
toughness quotient to it as well. But you've got to
have great speed, great athletic system, and you can count
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on one hand the number of white wide receivers defensive backs.
So when Roddy White says it, anybody who's played sports
been around sports, like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
They do have a lot of white guys, and especially
because for a long time Clemson was they always had
dudes with dreads that could really really run, right, That's
what they had, dudes with dreads that could.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Really really run.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And those guys feel like they're few and far between,
or they're now backups on that team.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But I think it's super interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That we're still completely unable to have this conversation. And
it's interesting because when I was at ESPN, the late
John Saunders and I got in discussion, like we're sitting
on the set one day and I said, John, why
can't a white guys say that black eyes are more
athletic and speed and explosive sports. You know, you look
at the NFL, and the NFL just wants to win games,
(02:55):
and how many running backs, how many wide receivers, how
many how many corner.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Are white versus the may are black?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Those players weren't selected to those to play those positions
because the color of their skin. It's because it's a meritocracy.
They've earned it, right, they've earned it. And the NFL,
by the way, is it's basically like fifty to fifty
you know, even quarterbacks now, which finally now we have
I think the most African Americans starting quarterbacks in the
(03:27):
history of the sport's fifteen for opening day night.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So you got about half an half there.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
The rest of the teams, believe it or not, if
are less than fifty percent, you take out skill positions
and are less than fifty percent black. So the offensive,
defensive lines and linebackers very very much mixed, but wide
receiver and running back or not, and quarnerback or not.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So I don't I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So when I asked John Sounders about it, he's like, well,
that's because some people will use it to say, oh, well,
if black people are more genetically predetermined to become speed
and explosive athletes, well then white people can have the
intelligence quotion. I was like, well, that doesn't make any sense.
So maybe that's what people running from. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Jay s du what do you think people are running from.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
With the very very obvious, the numbers that don't seem
to lie in regards to so many sports, and the
fact that.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You have the black athlete dominating sports. I don't know
why that's a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I
want anybody to be able to say or write anything
they feel, and I think it's refreshing that he said it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Do you think it's racist?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Uh No, I don't think it's racist. I don't even
know if it's true. Does cumpson have more white people
than back people on the field or something?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Ummm, I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I was actually I noticed it as well, like they
have a a lot of white guys.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's weird. It's weird. So I think it's true.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But I also think that it's just like people don't
know how to have rational discussions, like most people in sports.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Like we're kind of over that thing now.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
The other thing we've learned in sports is it's not
all about speed and athleticism. There's a toughness and a
competitiveness component, and not all black athletes are faster better
than the white athlete.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean the Cooper.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Cooper Cup has been the best wide receiver when healthy
in the NFL. Going back two years ago, they win
a Super Bowl solely because of Cooper Cup. And if
you want to say that the interior power and toughness is,
you know it was more for white interior alignment. Aaron
Donald destroyed any of that stereotype. But there is the
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reality that cornerbacks, running backs dominated by the black athlete,
and I don't understand why it's a bad thing to
bring it up. I'll never forget my freshman year at
Notre Dame. We started five white guys. We're playing against Georgetown.
My dear friend Antony whisho's now an assistant at Northern Illinois,
checks into the game and we're at the free to line.
(06:19):
Allen Iverson stand next to me and Toni standing on
the other side of him, and he turns to tone
and he's like, man, then got a lot of white guys.
All got a lot of white guys, and then went
back to playing.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And it was funny, but he was right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't think it's racist to point out that the
black athlete has had a dominance in certain positions in
certain sports. I don't I think it would be to
say that somebody's intelligence is based upon anything other than
their actual intelligence. That's the one thing I think we
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have learned and evolved from, and I just don't know
why we can't get that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Out of people.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottliebs
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Speaker 2 (07:07):
Let's get to what the Fox said, and now.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I say every day at this time in the end
of the Bonus Podcast, we play for you a previous
portion of a Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One show.
This is Colin Cowherd and Tom Brady talking about the
Ravens going to their opener with the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Does it start wearing on you Buffalo's going through this, Tom,
you start hearing you can't win these games? Is the
pressure on Kansas City to defend the home field or
Baltimore Thursday?
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I'd say a little bit more on Baltimore for that
exact reason. I think that when you have great leadership,
and I think of those Baltimore teams when they had
Ray Lewis and Ed Reid as their two primary leaders,
they even though they may lost in a championship game.
I actually saw this the other day, a clip from
Ray Lewis in the locker room after they had lost
to US I think in twenty eleven in the championship game,
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and how Ray talked about that team and how we
wanted to get them back on track going in the
next year. That's always what it's about. When you lose
in the playoffs, you want to think about our how
are we going to get over the hump next year?
What do we need to do? Where are our deficiencies?
Where can we get a little better? Where's our margin
of air? Is it taking care of the football? Is
at third down? Is it scoring points in the ridder?
(08:19):
Is it production from a unit that we haven't got
a lot of production from tight end groupings, running back groupings.
How can we improve our team a little bit so
when we get these big games we're more prepared than
the other team. We got more margin of there and
look to win a Super Bowl is absolutely incredibly difficult.
There's only one team that does it. To do what
the Chiefs have done is really remarkable, and they want
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to try to do it again. That challenge of them
doing it is going to be as hard a challenge
as any team the NFL's ever had. That's why it's
never happened to win three in a row. But the
Chiefs are poised like they always are to.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Go in there.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
I don't think they believe their height. They're very well coached,
obviously a great quarter, great leaders. The defense played really
well last year, so those guys are prepared. Baltimore wants
what the Chiefs got, and that's why you lead the
season off the way they have it. Ravens Chiefs. I'm
excited to see that one get underway too.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Give me both. I'm excited. That was a long way
to get to it.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
But yeah, I look, I don't think there's really pressure
on either of these teams, to be honest with you,
it's a seventeen game season, and we won't care about
the Ravens until we get to the postseason anyway, as
the Chiefs kind of same thing, only they've actually proven
themselves in the postseason time and time and time again.
(09:45):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about USC's win over LSU.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
USC that's a perception win. It's a victory, but that's
a perception win because we're I'm watching and I'm going, man,
USC is physical. They were a better team than LSU
Sunday night. Give credit to USC. They played well, Miller
Moss played well, and they got some playmakers there.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
That's a big win.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
Of all of the teams that had victories this weekend,
that one felt like it was a whole lot more
than just one win. That was a physical USC defense there,
and I thought that that was what stood out.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I thought they were the better team.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
And I kept waiting for something out of LSU and
it just never happened.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But give credit to USC.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Look, I thought USC looked really really good. I mean,
let's not act like LSU didn't punch back. LSU had
several leads in the second half, including late in the
fourth quarter, and and you know, and couldn't get over
the hump. I thought new Smyern many ways through a
really nice ball. But part of was, you know, they
that offense talled out at the most inopportune times. You know,
(10:57):
it really is the I thought the penalties undid LSU.
There's some discipline play there, and that's coaching. That's also
the personnel. Here's Jonas Knox, Brady, Quinn, LeVar Arrington. They
talked about Florida State.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Can I make a proclamation. I would like to guarantee
something here on the care because this is the business
of guarantees. I will guarantee you Florida State will not
be in the top ten when the new rankings come out.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Going to how about that's all guarantee you they want
to be the top twenty five after the college football
rankings come out, and just remind people the college football
playoff rankings won't be out for a while, so that
we know for sure the AP and Coaches poll will
be out I think today, and yet they will not
be a part of the top twenty five.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
Dang, I mean kind of.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
I mean they've been pretty impressive if you ask me,
you think so. Yes, it takes an impressive group to
come out and start zero and two. I mean, it
just does. And to travel as far as they did
to do it. I mean, man, they've given these teams
life shots out to Bill O'Brien and then to the
(12:06):
start of his career at Boston College.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, I don't think this story is Boston College, because
if it was, then the story was Georgia Tech last week. No,
the story is that Djunglele has been hasn't been good enough.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He's been shitty.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
They had a lot of drops last night as well.
And this is one of those you ask why teams
play cupcakes to start the season. That's why, because it's
got to be a good portion of it has to
be confidence.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You know, last year, the PAC twelve was an elite league.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Elite wouldn't be crazy to say best league in the country,
even if the SEC had better defensive personnel, just because
you have those quarterbacks and some defensive players. And DJ
Angleley was a good quarterback, you know, at Oregon State.
So part of it has to be a battle within
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himself in the conference. But whatever it is, who just
like Nick say and said, doesn't matter if you have
twenty million dollars you don't pick the right guys, you're screwed.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
That's what the Pox said.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'd say. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Let's find out what's annoying Jason Stewart and now it's
your annoying, Hey, Doug, what's annoying you?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
The Cheryl Swoops, the stephen A Media battle right now
is awesome. Gets your popcorn, find some kind of an
aggregate or blog that sums it up. Cheryl swoops seemingly
this is Caitlin Clark on her podcasts and on her broadcast,
and Steven A called her out for it, as Nancy Lieberman,
(13:55):
hall of Famer, was his guest on the podcast.
Speaker 11 (13:59):
You know, you can say whatever you want, you can
have your own opinion about anybody, but you do have
to get the statistics right. I mean, facts matter. And
if you just get ahead of this and just say, hey,
I'm made a mistake on my numbers, then this thing
is over and everybody respects you for your opinion. And
you know, you might like Boston, I might like the Yankees.
(14:20):
You know it's okay to have difference of opinions. Well,
she got a chat with me on the phone, and
I was like, Cheryl, you know, I'm not doing anything
to hurt you. I'm just sharing. We're talking, and so
our relationship pretty much is not happening at this point.
I tried to talk to her at the Final four.
You didn't want to talk to me. My life's going
(14:42):
to be good or great with or without. Cheryl swoops
in my life, I'd rather have her in it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Okay, So that was half the sound. The first part
of that was stephen A going off on Cheryl Swoops
for a legendly being removed from this past weekend's game
for Lieberman because of her bias. I love a good
media war, especially when Steven A is involved, and I
do think that it's great to call out Cheryl Swoops
(15:10):
because even though she posted a tweet with a screenshot
of her apologizing to Caitlin about the original concept or
original I guess comments back in April when she said
that Caitlin only has the scoring record because she played
an added COVID year, which was wrong. She corrected that
and center an apology. Caitlin Clark did what she always does,
(15:32):
which is take the high road and be respectful. I
don't know if that. I don't know if that makes
her an innocent party in this, because I think she's
done everything both on her broadcast and her podcast. I
guess she did an entire podcast of talking about how
good the Fever were and she didn't mention Caitlin Clark's
name once. So something's going on with Cheryl Swoops her.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, she's quite obviously super jealous, right because Cheryl Soups
was the best player in the WNBA. And the fact
is it now, twenty years later, you have to tell people,
you know, she was the best player in the w
NBA because nobody paid attention, nobody cared. I think it's
it really is that simple. And she doesn't know how
to get out of it. She doesn't know how to
get away from get away from those those feelings.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That's really what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, Tyreek Hill makes this segment a lot. I like,
I like making fun of Tyrek Hill. So he was
asked about this version of the Dolphins team.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
We all excited.
Speaker 11 (16:27):
Man.
Speaker 12 (16:27):
We got a lot of weapons, a lot of playmakers
on this team.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Man.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
So everybody's you know, on on the very edge edge
of their seats, man, you know, just waiting for this moment.
I think there these three days that you know, we
had off all I could think about, you know, was
just you know, lining up playing, you know, alongside of
the guys you know, on offense. So I'm very excited, man,
Like every year it is another opportunity, man like to
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win games and you know, create memories, man like with
you know a great group of guys, and you said
it like, this is our best team that we do
not have since we've been here. So for the time
to be alive, man can be a Dolphin fan.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
That might be true. This might be the best Dolphins
team he's been a part of since he's been there.
I don't know. I don't get into the predictions. I
hate preseason predictions, but I will say this, as good
as the Dolphins might be this year, they're not better
than the Chiefs and they have not won the last
two Super Bowls like the Chiefs did. I want to
(17:26):
be the guy that constantly reminds people that Tyreek Hill
chose to leave the Chiefs. He chose to leave the
best quarterback, he chose to leave the best offensive minded
football and he's also made questionable life decisions. So if
like one of his twelve illegitimate kids ever goes up
to him and asking for advice, I think the best
(17:47):
thing Tyreek Kuldill could say is take my advice. Don't
take my advice.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, I would agree with you, Tyreek Hill. He's good
at football. That's probably the best one.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What else?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Friday is a game between is it the Eagles and Yeah,
they're playing in Brazil and they're playing on a stream
streaming app. So I said this when it was first announced,
and it's time to say it again. The NFL having
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the balls and the arrogance to put one of their
regular games on a streaming app in Brazil. Brazil is
on the.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Cusp of collapse.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
By the way in Brazil on a Friday night proves
my theory that this is the zoo Ropa time of
the NFL. Zuo Ropa was the album you two came
out with after Octung Baby, so they had a home
run in Joshua Tree. Octungbaby came out I think in
nineteen eighty nine or ninety. They were the biggest rock
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band in the world, and they said, let's put out
a below average product to see if they'll still buy it.
Let's put out a product intentionally to see just how
stupid our fans are. So that's the NFL with this
game in Brazil on a streaming app. This is the
Zeropa time of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I like this Zeropa parallel. I went to PopMart also
wasn't good either. Just so aware they've not the only
time they've they've done that. They've done that as well.
I don't think that though the product is like, I
disagree with you in the product. I think you have
a belief that the product is somehow better previously, and
it wasn't. This has always been the product, and it
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can be boring, it can be tedious. What's most annoying
out of those three?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I think Cheryl Soops.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
The Cheryl Swoops thing is is to me, what jumps
out of me, you know, like whether Nancy Leerman thinks
Caitlin clar is as good as she says. She definitely
knows how to play the game. That's why she's been
around the game so long. But Cheryl Swoops, his personal
meltdown over this thing is weird, weird.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The Patriots former linebacker Rob Nikovich. I think he's done
some he's done some ESPN stuff, but he was on
a podcast and he talked about Mac Jones.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You don't like us either. I don't like you. I
don't give me like you think I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I'll smack the ship out.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Of like you.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I don't care. I'm fine with him.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
He does not like you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Do you care if somebody doesn't like you?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I'm just telling you, I hope he has a great
career as a backup.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Wow, did we get any any details as to why
why there's such hatred there? That's a lot, it's a
lot going on there. Why could I play it for you? Well,
because quite obviously a lot of the older Patriots didn't
like mac Jones, and because we can. That's it for
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(21:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Doug talking about the back around, running out welcome
in how you doing good? Good to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Roddy White said something on Twitter which has people really
really bothered. It has the right calling him a racist,
which is a weird one, right, and it has people
freaking out because well, it's something we all know to
be true, but somehow we can't seem to have like
a reasonable discussion about it. Basically, he said that Clemson's
(00:48):
been losing because they got too many white dudes, right,
and then he was shamed, and our kick wants to
call him the racist, and yeah, that's generally about it.
And so we get to this discussion where it's really amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's really amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Statistical analysis shows you that the NFL at positions of
speed and explosiveness, it's been dominated by the black athletic
now dominated by does not mean only right, but it's
(01:37):
been dominated by I'm talking about you know, you look
at wide receiver and cornerback just speed athletic positions. There
is an intelligence quotient to both of them as well
toughness quotient to it as well. But you've got to
have great speed, great athletic system, and you can count
(01:59):
on one hand the number of white wide receivers defensive backs.
So when Roddy White says it, anybody who's played sports
been around sports, like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
They do have a lot of white guys, and especially
because for a long time Clemson was they always had
dudes with dreads that could really really run, right, That's
what they had, dudes with dreads that could.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Really really run.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And those guys feel like they're few and far between,
or they're now backups on that team.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But I think it's super interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That we're still completely unable to have this conversation. And
it's interesting because when I was at ESPN, the late
John Saunders and I got in discussion, like we're sitting
on the set one day and I said, John, why
can't a white guys say that black eyes are more
athletic and speed and explosive sports. You know, you look
at the NFL, and the NFL just wants to win games,
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and how many running backs, how many wide receivers, how
many how many corner.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Are white versus the may are black?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Those players weren't selected to those to play those positions
because the color of their skin. It's because it's a meritocracy.
They've earned it, right, they've earned it. And the NFL,
by the way, is it's basically like fifty to fifty
you know, even quarterbacks now, which finally now we have
I think the most African Americans starting quarterbacks in the
(03:27):
history of the sport's fifteen for opening day night.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So you got about half an half there.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
The rest of the teams, believe it or not, if
are less than fifty percent, you take out skill positions
and are less than fifty percent black. So the offensive,
defensive lines and linebackers very very much mixed, but wide
receiver and running back or not, and quarnerback or not.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So I don't I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So when I asked John Sounders about it, he's like, well,
that's because some people will use it to say, oh, well,
if black people are more genetically predetermined to become speed
and explosive athletes, well then white people can have the
intelligence quotion. I was like, well, that doesn't make any sense.
So maybe that's what people running from. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Jay s du what do you think people are running from.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
With the very very obvious, the numbers that don't seem
to lie in regards to so many sports, and the
fact that.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You have the black athlete dominating sports. I don't know
why that's a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I
want anybody to be able to say or write anything
they feel, and I think it's refreshing that he said it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Do you think it's racist?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Uh No, I don't think it's racist. I don't even
know if it's true. Does cumpson have more white people
than back people on the field or something?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Ummm, I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I was actually I noticed it as well, like they
have a a lot of white guys.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's weird. It's weird. So I think it's true.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But I also think that it's just like people don't
know how to have rational discussions, like most people in sports.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Like we're kind of over that thing now.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
The other thing we've learned in sports is it's not
all about speed and athleticism. There's a toughness and a
competitiveness component, and not all black athletes are faster better
than the white athlete.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean the Cooper.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Cooper Cup has been the best wide receiver when healthy
in the NFL. Going back two years ago, they win
a Super Bowl solely because of Cooper Cup. And if
you want to say that the interior power and toughness is,
you know it was more for white interior alignment. Aaron
Donald destroyed any of that stereotype. But there is the
(05:57):
reality that cornerbacks, running backs dominated by the black athlete,
and I don't understand why it's a bad thing to
bring it up. I'll never forget my freshman year at
Notre Dame. We started five white guys. We're playing against Georgetown.
My dear friend Antony whisho's now an assistant at Northern Illinois,
checks into the game and we're at the free to line.
(06:19):
Allen Iverson stand next to me and Toni standing on
the other side of him, and he turns to tone
and he's like, man, then got a lot of white guys.
All got a lot of white guys, and then went
back to playing.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And it was funny, but he was right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't think it's racist to point out that the
black athlete has had a dominance in certain positions in
certain sports. I don't I think it would be to
say that somebody's intelligence is based upon anything other than
their actual intelligence. That's the one thing I think we
(06:53):
have learned and evolved from, and I just don't know
why we can't get that.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Out of people.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottliebs
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Speaker 2 (07:07):
Let's get to what the Fox said, and now.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I say every day at this time in the end
of the Bonus Podcast, we play for you a previous
portion of a Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One show.
This is Colin Cowherd and Tom Brady talking about the
Ravens going to their opener with the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Does it start wearing on you Buffalo's going through this, Tom,
you start hearing you can't win these games? Is the
pressure on Kansas City to defend the home field or
Baltimore Thursday?
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I'd say a little bit more on Baltimore for that
exact reason. I think that when you have great leadership,
and I think of those Baltimore teams when they had
Ray Lewis and Ed Reid as their two primary leaders,
they even though they may lost in a championship game.
I actually saw this the other day, a clip from
Ray Lewis in the locker room after they had lost
to US I think in twenty eleven in the championship game,
(07:57):
and how Ray talked about that team and how we
wanted to get them back on track going in the
next year. That's always what it's about. When you lose
in the playoffs, you want to think about our how
are we going to get over the hump next year?
What do we need to do? Where are our deficiencies?
Where can we get a little better? Where's our margin
of air? Is it taking care of the football? Is
at third down? Is it scoring points in the ridder?
(08:19):
Is it production from a unit that we haven't got
a lot of production from tight end groupings, running back groupings.
How can we improve our team a little bit so
when we get these big games we're more prepared than
the other team. We got more margin of there and
look to win a Super Bowl is absolutely incredibly difficult.
There's only one team that does it. To do what
the Chiefs have done is really remarkable, and they want
(08:41):
to try to do it again. That challenge of them
doing it is going to be as hard a challenge
as any team the NFL's ever had. That's why it's
never happened to win three in a row. But the
Chiefs are poised like they always are to.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Go in there.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
I don't think they believe their height. They're very well coached,
obviously a great quarter, great leaders. The defense played really
well last year, so those guys are prepared. Baltimore wants
what the Chiefs got, and that's why you lead the
season off the way they have it. Ravens Chiefs. I'm
excited to see that one get underway too.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Give me both. I'm excited. That was a long way
to get to it.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
But yeah, I look, I don't think there's really pressure
on either of these teams, to be honest with you,
it's a seventeen game season, and we won't care about
the Ravens until we get to the postseason anyway, as
the Chiefs kind of same thing, only they've actually proven
themselves in the postseason time and time and time again.
(09:45):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about USC's win over LSU.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
USC that's a perception win. It's a victory, but that's
a perception win because we're I'm watching and I'm going, man,
USC is physical. They were a better team than LSU
Sunday night. Give credit to USC. They played well, Miller
Moss played well, and they got some playmakers there.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
That's a big win.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
Of all of the teams that had victories this weekend,
that one felt like it was a whole lot more
than just one win. That was a physical USC defense there,
and I thought that that was what stood out.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I thought they were the better team.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
And I kept waiting for something out of LSU and
it just never happened.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
But give credit to USC.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Look, I thought USC looked really really good. I mean,
let's not act like LSU didn't punch back. LSU had
several leads in the second half, including late in the
fourth quarter, and and you know, and couldn't get over
the hump. I thought new Smyern many ways through a
really nice ball. But part of was, you know, they
that offense talled out at the most inopportune times. You know,
(10:57):
it really is the I thought the penalties undid LSU.
There's some discipline play there, and that's coaching. That's also
the personnel. Here's Jonas Knox, Brady, Quinn, LeVar Arrington. They
talked about Florida State.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Can I make a proclamation. I would like to guarantee
something here on the care because this is the business
of guarantees. I will guarantee you Florida State will not
be in the top ten when the new rankings come out.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Going to how about that's all guarantee you they want
to be the top twenty five after the college football
rankings come out, and just remind people the college football
playoff rankings won't be out for a while, so that
we know for sure the AP and Coaches poll will
be out I think today, and yet they will not
be a part of the top twenty five.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
Dang, I mean kind of.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
I mean they've been pretty impressive if you ask me,
you think so. Yes, it takes an impressive group to
come out and start zero and two. I mean, it
just does. And to travel as far as they did
to do it. I mean, man, they've given these teams
life shots out to Bill O'Brien and then to the
(12:06):
start of his career at Boston College.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, I don't think this story is Boston College, because
if it was, then the story was Georgia Tech last week. No,
the story is that Djunglele has been hasn't been good enough.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He's been shitty.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
They had a lot of drops last night as well.
And this is one of those you ask why teams
play cupcakes to start the season. That's why, because it's
got to be a good portion of it has to
be confidence.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
You know, last year, the PAC twelve was an elite league.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Elite wouldn't be crazy to say best league in the country,
even if the SEC had better defensive personnel, just because
you have those quarterbacks and some defensive players. And DJ
Angleley was a good quarterback, you know, at Oregon State.
So part of it has to be a battle within
(12:55):
himself in the conference. But whatever it is, who just
like Nick say and said, doesn't matter if you have
twenty million dollars you don't pick the right guys, you're screwed.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
That's what the Pox said.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'd say. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Let's find out what's annoying Jason Stewart and now it's
your annoying, Hey, Doug, what's annoying you?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
The Cheryl Swoops, the stephen A Media battle right now
is awesome. Gets your popcorn, find some kind of an
aggregate or blog that sums it up. Cheryl swoops seemingly
this is Caitlin Clark on her podcasts and on her broadcast,
and Steven A called her out for it, as Nancy Lieberman,
(13:55):
hall of Famer, was his guest on the podcast.
Speaker 11 (13:59):
You know, you can say whatever you want, you can
have your own opinion about anybody, but you do have
to get the statistics right. I mean, facts matter. And
if you just get ahead of this and just say, hey,
I'm made a mistake on my numbers, then this thing
is over and everybody respects you for your opinion. And
you know, you might like Boston, I might like the Yankees.
(14:20):
You know it's okay to have difference of opinions. Well,
she got a chat with me on the phone, and
I was like, Cheryl, you know, I'm not doing anything
to hurt you. I'm just sharing. We're talking, and so
our relationship pretty much is not happening at this point.
I tried to talk to her at the Final four.
You didn't want to talk to me. My life's going
(14:42):
to be good or great with or without. Cheryl swoops
in my life, I'd rather have her in it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Okay, So that was half the sound. The first part
of that was stephen A going off on Cheryl Swoops
for a legendly being removed from this past weekend's game
for Lieberman because of her bias. I love a good
media war, especially when Steven A is involved, and I
do think that it's great to call out Cheryl Swoops
(15:10):
because even though she posted a tweet with a screenshot
of her apologizing to Caitlin about the original concept or
original I guess comments back in April when she said
that Caitlin only has the scoring record because she played
an added COVID year, which was wrong. She corrected that
and center an apology. Caitlin Clark did what she always does,
(15:32):
which is take the high road and be respectful. I
don't know if that. I don't know if that makes
her an innocent party in this, because I think she's
done everything both on her broadcast and her podcast. I
guess she did an entire podcast of talking about how
good the Fever were and she didn't mention Caitlin Clark's
name once. So something's going on with Cheryl Swoops her.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, she's quite obviously super jealous, right because Cheryl Soups
was the best player in the WNBA. And the fact
is it now, twenty years later, you have to tell people,
you know, she was the best player in the w
NBA because nobody paid attention, nobody cared. I think it's
it really is that simple. And she doesn't know how
to get out of it. She doesn't know how to
get away from get away from those those feelings.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That's really what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, Tyreek Hill makes this segment a lot. I like,
I like making fun of Tyrek Hill. So he was
asked about this version of the Dolphins team.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
We all excited.
Speaker 11 (16:27):
Man.
Speaker 12 (16:27):
We got a lot of weapons, a lot of playmakers
on this team.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Man.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
So everybody's you know, on on the very edge edge
of their seats, man, you know, just waiting for this moment.
I think there these three days that you know, we
had off all I could think about, you know, was
just you know, lining up playing, you know, alongside of
the guys you know, on offense. So I'm very excited, man,
Like every year it is another opportunity, man like to
(16:52):
win games and you know, create memories, man like with
you know a great group of guys, and you said
it like, this is our best team that we do
not have since we've been here. So for the time
to be alive, man can be a Dolphin fan.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
That might be true. This might be the best Dolphins
team he's been a part of since he's been there.
I don't know. I don't get into the predictions. I
hate preseason predictions, but I will say this, as good
as the Dolphins might be this year, they're not better
than the Chiefs and they have not won the last
two Super Bowls like the Chiefs did. I want to
(17:26):
be the guy that constantly reminds people that Tyreek Hill
chose to leave the Chiefs. He chose to leave the
best quarterback, he chose to leave the best offensive minded
football and he's also made questionable life decisions. So if
like one of his twelve illegitimate kids ever goes up
to him and asking for advice, I think the best
(17:47):
thing Tyreek Kuldill could say is take my advice. Don't
take my advice.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, I would agree with you, Tyreek Hill. He's good
at football. That's probably the best one.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What else?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Friday is a game between is it the Eagles and Yeah,
they're playing in Brazil and they're playing on a stream
streaming app. So I said this when it was first announced,
and it's time to say it again. The NFL having
(18:22):
the balls and the arrogance to put one of their
regular games on a streaming app in Brazil. Brazil is
on the.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Cusp of collapse.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
By the way in Brazil on a Friday night proves
my theory that this is the zoo Ropa time of
the NFL. Zuo Ropa was the album you two came
out with after Octung Baby, so they had a home
run in Joshua Tree. Octungbaby came out I think in
nineteen eighty nine or ninety. They were the biggest rock
(18:58):
band in the world, and they said, let's put out
a below average product to see if they'll still buy it.
Let's put out a product intentionally to see just how
stupid our fans are. So that's the NFL with this
game in Brazil on a streaming app. This is the
Zeropa time of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I like this Zeropa parallel. I went to PopMart also
wasn't good either. Just so aware they've not the only
time they've they've done that. They've done that as well.
I don't think that though the product is like, I
disagree with you in the product. I think you have
a belief that the product is somehow better previously, and
it wasn't. This has always been the product, and it
(19:41):
can be boring, it can be tedious. What's most annoying
out of those three?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I think Cheryl Soops.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
The Cheryl Swoops thing is is to me, what jumps
out of me, you know, like whether Nancy Leerman thinks
Caitlin clar is as good as she says. She definitely
knows how to play the game. That's why she's been
around the game so long. But Cheryl Swoops, his personal
meltdown over this thing is weird, weird.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The Patriots former linebacker Rob Nikovich. I think he's done
some he's done some ESPN stuff, but he was on
a podcast and he talked about Mac Jones.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You don't like us either. I don't like you. I
don't give me like you think I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I'll smack the ship out.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Of like you.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I don't care. I'm fine with him.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
He does not like you.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Do you care if somebody doesn't like you?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I'm just telling you, I hope he has a great
career as a backup.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Wow, did we get any any details as to why
why there's such hatred there? That's a lot, it's a
lot going on there. Why could I play it for you? Well,
because quite obviously a lot of the older Patriots didn't
like mac Jones, and because we can. That's it for
the end the Bonus podcast. She got to the radio
(21:11):
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