September 4, 2024 • 37 mins
On this week's edition of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss the NFL storylines they are most intrigued by this season. Doug weighs in on the Commanders firing a VP for comments made about the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer delivers The Press.
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Um.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Look, there's some stuff going on. Patrick certain signs a
huge contract. I guess there's a little baseball to talk about.
But Wednesdays are the middle of the week. It's a
big week because Thursday football, Friday, football, Saturday, lots of football,
Sunday a ton of football. Heck, we had so many. Yes,
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football is unequivocally back. I mean Baltimore, Kansas City, Tomortnight
is incredible. But middle of the week, middle of the show,
middle of the middle of the day, let's get the midway.
He's not getting the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It's time for the midway.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, So here's what we thought we'd do. Let's do
just the most intriguing storylines from NFL teams heading into
the season. You guys, okay with that.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I want one intriguing story, each triguing story for each
of us.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Okay, Well is your idea, So.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You go, Aaron Rodgers. For those that didn't listen to
the Dan Patrick Show on Monday morning, Dan Byer and
I gave a book review to be honest, to be factual,
as call the Dan and J stew audio book review.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Your literation was impressive.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
We'll be doing like Tolstoy, Warre and P's probably next,
so look for that. I'm going to say, Aaron Rodgers,
I'm most intrigued to follow his story after reading the book.
I'm a fan of the guy. I admit on this
air all the time. I think he's very interesting. I
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think we lose sight of how interesting he is because
he says stuff that pisses people off. So this country
typically just dismisses you if you say something against the grain.
But he's a star in the biggest sport in the
country who says interesting things. All you have to do
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is watch the Quarterback on Netflix with Mahomes and Cousins
and a Mariota. These guys are robots that have almost
no depth to them at all. They're freak athletes that
are good at their jobs, but they're not interesting. Aaron
Rodgers is and we should appreciate that. And I'm rooting
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for him this season. I want the Jets to go far.
If he were to win a Super Bowl, it might
be one of the greatest What do you call that?
Resurrection stories comeback stories, and I'm not just talking about
the injury. People have come back from injuries before, but
coming back from the persecution he received in the wake
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of the.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
All dude, hold on, stop with the persecution. Wasn't persecuted.
It's really strong, really strong. You can cheer for Aaron
Rodgers because he says what he wants and he's a
unique thinker. Please don't do that. He was persecuted.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Come on, buck, look up the definition of persecution. It
was a public stoning about the public.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The act of mistreating a person because of their race, sexticity,
sexual orientation status. Yeah, persecution is confiscation of property, incitement
of hatred, arrests, imprisonment, beating, torture, murder, executions. The guy
lied about being vaccinated and then tried to outsmart everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Be this.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's not being persecuted. He wasn't suspended for a game,
was he.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I'm not sure if he received it. No, No, I
know he got COVID a couple.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Of weeks after.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And here's another thing. Okay, we got to stop with
the all vacts, like the RFK all vaccinations are bad.
He's a quack. Okay, he just is. We can argue
whether or not the COVID vaccine should have been mandated
or what levels it should have been, and remembering which
presidency actually created in fact, fast forwarded the vaccine, that's
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a fair discussion to have. But like, dude, really all vaccines. Yeah,
polio that really hasn't worked. Yes, it actually has smallpox,
et cetera. Like we go to crazy town over stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
He was not persecuted.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Aaron Rodgers is super interesting. The jets are super interesting.
I think anybody could happen on the top. Let's not
do the persecuted thing. So I was Sam.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Let's substitute the word persecution with the public stoning that
Aaron Rodgers received in the wake of the immunization point.
I'll clean it.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Up and edit.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Okay, Sanuary Rodgers prefers his stoning to be in private
with ayahuasca. Yeah, so, I think this is pretty obvious here.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
I don't know where that joke quent Dan your thoughts
a good joke to get us back on tracks. Sam you,
I'll lighten it up little bit. Where was the snare drum?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
It was a good joke, so we didn't need it.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. This is gonna be fairly obvious
statement here. But I think two things, huge things that
are critical to the success to your success in the NFL
are really good personnel and culture. Good culture that involves,
you know, a good coaching staff. I think that the
Detroit Lions have both of those things, and I'm curious
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about if they can sustain they can sustain their success
that they had last year. It's a team that hadn't
won a playoff game in more than three decades, and listen,
everybody's back, including their outstanding offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, and
Vegas is high on the Lions. I'm seeing you know
about ten and a half wins for their over under
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various sports books. So obviously there are expectations for the Lions.
And I think that two things that happened in the
offseason were really good for the Lions and in terms
of like keeping the focus off.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Of them and keeping them as sort of the underdog role.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Jordan Love's massive contract extension, which obviously put more expectations
on him, more pressure on him and the Packers to
do really well in the NFC North, and the Bears
drafting Caleb Williams number one overall. I think both of
those things took the focus off the Lions, which will
help them to sustain their success this year. And they're
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just gonna be a hohum, keep on keeping on, keep
digging away. And I think the Lions are just great
for the NFL. I think their fans are great. I
think that them being good is a really good thing
for the NFL. So I'm curious if the Lions, I mean,
did they really lose anybody.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Dan pretty much brought everybody, including Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson,
Jimi or Gibbs, Sam Woporta, Iman Rossain Brown, Goff. I mean,
they got an outstanding offense, the defense, is up and coming.
I want to see if the Lions and their culture
is healthy enough to sustain success for the next few years.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I have so many things and I don't want to
go out. Maybe at to an end of it, I
can go ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Yeah, I want to jump in on the Lions portion
of it because there are a few teams in the
NFL that we look like Baseball. We were so we
were so wrapped into the Cubs and the Red Sox
trying to end their droughts.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
White what's thatpp White Sox two eight eight years?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Then sure, but I think that the curse of the
Bambino with the Red Sox, with the Cubs, all of
that stuff played in and especially with the heartbreak that
the Red Sox had, and when that went away, I
think major League Baseball lost something. Same thing with the
Cubs and the Lions haven't won an NFL title since
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nineteen fifty seven. Only the Arizona Cardinals the Cardinals franchise,
have a longer drought. There's also the fact that they,
like the Browns, have never been in a Super Bowl.
So with the Lions, what I find is interesting is
if they go to the Super Bowl and lose, do
we find it a success because the Red Sox in
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where they were, the Red Sox were, you know, a
Bill Buckner grounder away. We feel from winning a World
Series where like the Cubs drought, it's like, Okay, it's
been this long for this and this long for that.
Can they even get to a World Series? Then they
go and do it. Like I wonder if the Lions,
if they just make it to a Super Bowl, if
that will be good enough for the season. I think so,
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Like I think that is the case with the Lions.
It would end one of those you know, of the
have nots of the NFL. That storyline would be pretty
much gone forever.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I think you're completely correct in you don't that one
does not have to win a Super Bowl get into
a super Bowl. It's like the Bengals a couple of
years ago, right where you're like the Bengals and a
Super they were so bad for so now the Bengals
weren't actually as bad as the Lions. Bengals had that
five consecutive yeers making the playoffs when Marvin was their coach.
But still it's more perception than reality. I'm having trouble
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pairing it down, but I will just stay close to
home with my my my favorite team spend the LA Chargers.
Just Harbaugh's won everywhere. How long does this process take
and can the team get to the place that that
magical place where instead of expecting something to go wrong,
expecting something to go right and then something goes right?
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Like Notre Dame has had this in football for a
long time, and I know they haven't been great for
a long time, but what do you call it? Lucky?
The Irish? Whatever Oklahoma football has had, they call it
Sooner magic. Just good teams find a way to win games.
They just do, you know, they figure out whatever it
takes to win. And I gotta tell you, like, I'm
intrigued by the Chargers because it's a weird Greg Roman's
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offense is a weird fit for the quarterback and there
is a part of me that wonders. Boy Jim Harborough.
I know he's won everywhere, but Chargers are hard and
the league has changed some. I'm just fascinate to see
what the Chargers do this year. How long and how
long to teach them to win? He can teach them
to win.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
They invested in the head coaching position, and I know
that sounds disrespectful to Brandon Staley and yeah, and you
know Mike McCoy prior to that, but yeah, that is
that is what they did.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I think Keenan Allen, if you talk to him in
eight weeks halfway through the season or nine weeks, whatever
it is, if you go to Keenan Allen, say do
you regret because Keenan Allen pulled a leverage move where
he wouldn't wasn't willing to take less money, and Harba
was like, okay, we'll trade you. I wonder if you
go to Keenan Allen the midway through the season and say,
do you regret what you did? I want everyone to
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remember this moment because I want we'll see where the
Bears are and we'll see where the Chargers are. I
really wanted Keenan Allen to be a part of something
great here because he paid his dues on dog crap.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Teams the midway.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Dan, It's funny over the last twenty four hours, there's
starting to be some rumblings everything was turning up gold
for the forty nine ers, and now I've seen some
stuff online where maybe the front office and ownership isn't
necessarily that excited on how John Lynch and the forty
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nine ers have dealt with some of these contract situations,
and that leads to the point of they gave in
to go all in on the season, and those things
can be scary when you come so close to a
Super Bowl, because yeah, you feel like you're so close.
And look at the Eagles last year. Look at what
ended up happening with them as they started out and
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the record looked right, but many said they don't look right,
and by the end of the year they did not
look right. And I just the forty nine ers like,
this is it. This is the last chance, the last
chance before Perty gets his deal, there are going to
be other decisions that they're going to have to make
in the future. I'm looking at a screen on the
NFL network right now where you have their four talking
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heads all picking the forty nine ers to win the
NFC West. I think a lot of people are picking
them to win the NFC. But if they don't, then
it's that it's over with. It's done with. And that
is to me, when you lose a Super Bowl at overtime,
to bounce back and feel like we just need to
run it back. I don't know if that always works,
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and maybe it will for the forty nine ers, but
we're already seeing rumblings. Once Trent Williams returns to practice,
Ayu gets his thirty million dollar deal, everything seems to
be back and great that maybe things aren't great in
San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The off season, Like really.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, you know, is that a quiet off season that
we haven't talked about that has dominated the NFL. We
can't see Chiefs. None of us mentioned it, And I
know you want have won from each and I know
it's boring, but we're literally watching like in mid career,
the greatest career that's ever happened in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Right, the Chiefs aren't boring, I said recently, I'm intrigued
by this three peat, Like, how often in our lifetimes
will we be able to witness greatness? If they're in
the playoffs end, it's late and they're not playing the Chargers,
I'm rooting four of the Chiefs. I don't think a
lot of people do.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
That, did you, because Jason a month ago you said
that this is the most intriguing storyline of the season.
So did you take this opportunity just to get your
Jets take out there just to stir Doug's blood up,
because he.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Goes Aaron Rodgers spirit beat there.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Is because this was I used it on my Sunday
show and I gave Jason Stewart credit. I said, Jayce
du said this to me a month ago, and I
poo pooed it on how intrigued he was and how
fascinated he was and seeing the Chiefs try to go
for a three peat. And then I even did some
more research on it, and it's even more intriguing outside
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of the of just a three peat for the Kansas
City Chiefs at where they are. I told Carrie Rhodes
on my show on Sunday five eastern, two Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, that this is the.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Teeter totter to the Patriots. You win this season. You've
gone back to back to back, which no one has
ever done in the NFL in the Super Bowl era.
No one's won three straight Super Bowls. You have now
tipped it where you are with four super bowls with
Patrick Mahomes. You're four with Andy Reid, who would need
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two away to catch Belichick. Mahomes will be three away
from Brady. With all of this now in reach, So
maybe Andy Reid's like, yeah, I'm gonna stay. If they
win the Super Bowl, they win four games of the playoffs,
Andy Reid will be a game back of Bill Belichick
for the most playoff wins. Ever, Andy Reid also has
an opportunity to pass Bill Belichick if Belichick stays away
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for most coach the regular season wins in an NFL career.
Think he's about thirty behind right now. So there's a
lot at stake for the Chiefs this year. And if
you win, you may think, well, way, what better way
to go out with a three peat? But I think
that puts them so much closer to be becoming that
dominant franchise that would be so difficult to walk away from.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You don't do it this year.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I still think that Patriots and Brady and Belichick still
kind of out of reach a little bit. But you
complete that three peat and continue that momentum. Wowso you're the.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Chiefe wowsa, wowsa. There's so many good storylines. I mean,
there's we didn't get to Bengals, right, and I mean
you have everybody loves Joe Burrow, but you know what
happens with that team? We didn't get to Baltimore to
Miami to Pittsburgh. Would they ever make a coaching change
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or just the whole Russell Wilson thing, like will that
work out? So many good storylines this year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
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you get this when you because you fill in for
this show. You filled in for Comino and Rich We
filled in together with for the Dan Patrick Show. Right
is again. I was doing this when I did Cowherd
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last Friday. I kept like coming in saying, Doug Gottlieb Show,
and it's not And then I got my brain wrapped
around filling in for and then I had the filling
in for it, and I was about to go Doug
Gotlieb filling in for and I didn't like, I'm not
feeling in for anybody. I'm actually doing my own show today.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
So it does happen from time to time, mixing up.
Even when I do my Sunday show, sometimes I may
say Doug Gottlieb Show. Although I don't think I've done it,
but I've been on the verge of doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I've done it. I've done it. If you haven't heard,
it's because Sam drops it at that very very right
moment Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did
you guys see this story? The Commanders have suspended an
employee who made comments about the team's players being anti gay,
and he accused Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones being racist
and anti gay, and he called the NFL commissioner Roger
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Goodell quote, a fifty million dollars puppet. The team said
they have suspended their vice president of content, Royale and Teen,
who's been with the organization for years. The comments he
made were to an undercover reporter from the O'Keeffe media group,
according to the social media video. And I don't know
if you guys have seen this. I have a team
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met the reporter on a dating app app Hinge, and
met with her twice at local restaurants. The language in
the video runs counter to our values. A team spokes
been said in a statement, we have suspended the employee
pending in investigation and reserved further comment at this time.
Here's a couple of the clips. Okay, this is so
a guy's on a hinge, matches up with a woman,
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they go on a date. Okay, he's and remember this
is the new commander's front office after Dan Snyder had
a clear hat clean house and then his wife hired
the front office and everybody. Okay, before the ownership change,
which took place.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
About a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Here's en teen talking about seeing hope the state. He
talks about sealing hope to state run media, selling hope.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Sorry, my job is to sell hope to the fans, right.
I need them buying tickets, I need them buying jerseys.
I need them consuming our contact.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
When there's not much hope to sell, I still got
to dig deep to find it.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Because why do you.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Think there's not much hope to sell? Right? Because the
stadium sucked.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
We had like pipes leaping sewage on our fans in
the middle of the game, and.
Speaker 10 (19:43):
I have to put out a social post saying like
it wasn't sewage water We promised that is state our meed.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
He talked about the NFL social justice. How do you
explain the fact that the NFL is very much into
like so justice.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's performative effort.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I mean, it's not done out of the goodness of
their art morality.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
It's done because George Floyd changed the game.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I mean that the social justice efforts are a performance for.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
The sake of public perception and not because they want
to actually push progress to get support from liberals.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, I don't.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
I think it's to make as much money as possible.
I think the NFL cares about the bottom line like
any corporation, a bubble else, and they have They don't
need to really change pennies because they make so much revenue.
Therefore they can faue prioritize DEI for the sake of
good publicity.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Hmm. It's actually a pretty interesting conversation. Just I'm blown
away by somebody who has an intimate conversation with a
guy who thinks are going on a date. Again. I'm
not saying the things that he says are all okay,
but like is there isn't there any part of you
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that goes like, really he thought he was on a date.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, second date, coming.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
A second date, Okay, he didn't know that these answers
are going to come out on.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
The second so he's videoing his date.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Okay, So did he know the point value was double
on the second date? For these questions like it's around
a jeopardy? All right, we got what we need? Dirty Pool.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It is dirty pool again. That's my opinion, Dan, What do.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
You think I I think that it is absolutely dirty
pool to do it in that sort of scenario. I
don't think the allegations that he made are that surprising.
When you're talking about the Washington commanders, considering the horror
stories we had heard year after year and them trying
to cover it up and make it seem like everything
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was all right. I don't think that that is a surprise.
I do find it interesting that they're, you know, the NFL,
in terms of what they've done in social justice and
what has happened. I can actually understand that. Remember they
put the you know, they put the phrases in the
end zone, and like those are still there, and I
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don't know if there's been anything done or said or
happened with the NFL, you know, over the last three years.
But I think they're say, hey, look at what we
have written in the back of the end zone, you know.
So that's that you'll see every Sunday and Monday night.
So the allegations that we heard in those comments there
not necessarily surprising, and I can't that I'm completely shocked
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that someone who is more on the inside would have
that sort of opinion, because I feel that a lot
of us on the outside have that opinion.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
This was.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Royale and teen, who's a VP with the Commanders who's
now suspended, saying this about alcohol and homophobia in NFL
locker rooms.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Most of the fans, I would say, are.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
High school educated alcoholics.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Most NFL fans are high school educated alcoholics.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Really with violence, like yeah, I mean there's fights in
the stands all the time, like it is, they're like
lower class people.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I hate to use that term. I would just say
mouth breathers. That's not even I know, it's way where
is it? Over fifty percent of our roster right is either.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
White, religious, and God says today is another big chunk
is a very low income African American that comes from
a community that is inherently very homophobic.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So my takeaway is that either he's playing to his
date or this is how he feels. But he is
very very to the left right, like he's socially very
conscious and he's bothered by the you know, the false
narrative that the NFL puts out there. Right, So that's
my kind of biggest takeaway. I don't know, do I
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think it's a bad look, sure, But I also think
it's like, here's a VP who's he's trying to impress
a chick and to sound really intelligent and clearly trying
to and maybe who knows if he's super woke or
she is, or she he thinks she is and he's
just trying to play to her sensibilities. Just like, Hey,
I hate to be the guy who to say this,
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but not everything a guy says on a date is
exactly aligned with how he actually feels. I know, I
know this may be stunning to women out there. Really,
I thought guys, especially a first and second date, like
the chances this is is somebody's being just real and
open up. Now, Look, a lot of this stuff is
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just feels real, open and honest. Maybe he's just good
at it. And even if he does like ID this
is a little bit like what we talked about yesterday,
Jason Whare. When I hear them as opposed to when
I read them, it feels different. Again, I don't agree
with a portion of what he says, and I think
he overinflates some of the statistics with the over fifty
percent thing. And it's pretty obvious which side of the
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political aisle he's presenting. But there's a lot of stuff
here that one not that crazy, and two you're starting
to try and figure out is he saying these things
because he believes him or is he saying these things
because he believes that she'll liked them?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Okay, wait, I want to ask again he knew he
was being videotaped during the school?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
No, he didn't know.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You said that she had a camera or phone or something,
and yes, she's a video you can great, so I
know at least they had the audio of it, Yeah,
the video coming. It sounds to me these sound like
candid and sincere opinions from this guy.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Absolutely, there's app and the BS meter is up with me.
I don't think this is a straight man on a
on a date with a woman. You think, I don't
this sounds like a gay man an extra grind?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Absolutely, oh absolutely, But I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
He's on hinge not grind her. Is that why?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah? I have no idea. But it's you think that
he knew that he was being recorded? No, no, no, no,
I'm just saying that the dynamic doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
He doesn't think he's on a date. He thinks he's gay,
and like, no straight dude ever has an issue with,
you know, with how people treat gay like that's the
gent working, Like what are we doing here? And only
a gay guy would make these comments.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It's coming from a very from a very biased place.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I agree, it comes from a bias thing, but one
I can't tell whether he's trying to play to her sensibilities.
Maybe there's somebody he has family members that are gay
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I think. I think his comments are so accurate. I think,
I mean, I think the NFL is going to probably
do what you're doing on this show, Doug. The NFL
is going to question how it was done and why
it was done, and then trapman and blah blah blah.
But if you listen to the words verbatim, these would
be troubling things for the NFL to hear from a
VP of one of their organizations.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, what's troubling about.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It that their players are generally homophobic? I mean we
talked about this on the show recently.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Again, do we do we argue with it?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
No? No, no, but we're talking. We're on a talk show.
The NFL is in the business of presenting an image
that they're not homophobic.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
What are they supposed to You can't change how people think.
You just can't. Like, look the part where he gets
himself in trouble and I'd be interested? Is I would
be interested? I think he meant in stadium crowd, but
calling people mouth breathers in high school educated alcoholics, like that's.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Sounds like he's talking about people in this stadium. This
is too much getting into fights.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
And I gotta be honest because I just am not
following what Jason is saying. And I'm just maybe stupid
and not connecting the dots here. But I don't know
how if you're on a dating app and you're going
on a second date with this person on why you
know because the and I'll just I'll tell you how
I feel. Maybe then that can that can answer my question.
(28:20):
I actually feel that maybe these comments were made on
two separate dates, and so then he went on one date
with her. She wanted a second date. He's like, Wow,
she liked what I said. To Doug's point of maybe
I'll you know, ramp it up some since she's considering
that she liked our conversation, So I'll say the term
mouth breather to try to make her laugh and try
(28:41):
to maybe she likes that moxie from me or this
you know, this guy that knows all the inside and stuff,
and so he's playing it up that way thinking that,
you know, so like the first questions that we had heard,
I thought like, okay, that's stuff that we can see.
You know, this other stuff here is much more you
know inside, and was critical yeah, yeah, yeah. So I
(29:03):
don't understand on why we would think that that he
would be a homosexual in making these comments while he
didn't know he was.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
He was recruiting a beard that he was doing there there, Jay, I.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Think that I think you're you guys are choosing to
believe the story that this media company is presenting, and
I'm not so. Yeah, if you believe what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That you don't believe anything. You're like, that's why you
like Aaron Rodgers because you think everything is conspiracy. Nothing
is as it seemed. What the world is an illusion.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
I am not saying that, but I just I don't
understand his angle of doing that. Like if you said
there was a conspiracy theory that someone in the NFL
like this was good, this was going to be the
fall guy, like, hey, we need to out the NFL
on this. You're going to know, you're going to be
recorded and say this stuff and then we're going to
put the commanders in whatever spot or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Like. I could see that aspect of it, but.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
I just didn't. I don't understand. I don't understand that
conspiracy theory that.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
You Yeah, and I honestly haven't even thought that through.
I'm just saying that my BS meters up, it doesn't smell,
doesn't doesn't pass the smell test. The entire thing does. Well.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Can I just say, what do people talk about on
first dates? They talk about their job a lot, like
that's a that's a topic that always comes up. And
he she's coming into this date knowing he has a
very interesting job working with the NFL, working with a franchise,
And it sounds like she was asking him hard hitting
questions that he was like, Oh, this is really digging
into what I do on a you know, what I
(30:30):
deal with on a day to day basis. I'm going
to just completely go into the confessional mode and just
he let his guard down.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
It sounds too soon with this person. And how did
he not know what her job was? Did she lie
about that that she's like a reporter?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Probably? Ever, questions was not like casual social It did
sound like an interview much or a reporter. It did
in a interview. We dynamic she could just be his
date asking him questions. I guess about his jay.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
People think people fall in love at strip clubs, So
like I I if this guy was into this girl,
I don't think that her questioning would would even be
a blip on his radar.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Oh dude, he's going on on. He feels he thinks
he's the smartest. He's giving her all kinds of stuff exactly.
I I like, I would love also to know if
this was the first or the second date I'm with
I'm with Dan, because you know, like you feel somebody
out in the first date and you're like, okay, she's
super super liberal, Like okay, you know, I mean these
(31:28):
are things you gotta I don't read the room all
that well. Second time round, you're like, okay, they're super conservative.
Let's do away with the Trump jokes and just talk
about Biden be taking a nap, Right, that's really what
you do, Like you you focus on it. I just
think like if if the story is real where it
was really a hinge date and they went on a
second date and she recorded both times, like that's bull crap.
(31:52):
We can add this to the list of things you
can't do. Like you know, what you don't do. You
don't you don't publicize the world your d Your dms
are direct message between you and that person, right unless
it's some crime, you know, committed against a legit crime,
and in that case you show it to the cops.
You don't show it to the real world. It's a
private message. It's like passing a note in high school class.
(32:15):
The other things you don't do is you don't video
and audio record somebody who's on a date without their knowledge.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
That's dirty, pool, it's unsettling and disgusting and like what
was in it for her? Just because she was on
hinge and found out, Oh, this is something I could
write an article about, Like I'm gonna ask this guy.
There is just the betrayal.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
There is is just Yeah.
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He last direct messaged me August thirtieth of twenty twenty one,
that's four three years ago. He said, you're stupid and
all of my friends and I stopped listening to your
show because your comments regarding the fake COVID vaccine. It
(33:33):
was fake, guys, it was fake, fake vaccine. Then today
this is at the top of the hour, we're in
a little vaccine take. Your takes on vaccines are one
of the reasons that why many people I know aren't
listening to your show. Your takes on politics turn people off.
(33:53):
Switch to eight thirty am when you come on for
this reason, word of advice. Only provide opinions on sports, Rudy,
So you're lying right. You said three years ago that
that you weren't listening anymore. Then you clearly listened some more.
And so I'll just tell you this, and this is
honestly to you, Jays too. I love you as a guy,
(34:14):
but the anti vaccine stuff is incredibly dangerous. It's uneducated
and frankly, it needs to stop.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
You're talking about you're talking about my opinions on this.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'm talking about if you want to say whether or
not we should have had a mandate on COVID vaccines.
What happens is you have people like Rudy who clearly
aren't smart enough to understand that there's a difference in
an argument whether or not a vaccine should be mandated
or passed versus overall, vaccines have, by many people's estimations,
save the world of one hundred and fifty million deaths overall. Like,
(34:48):
plenty of vaccines work and work really really well. Do
we need all of them? I don't know. You know
what I'm not. I'm not an immunologist. But the idea
that we don't need vaccines. And by the way, this
is not more directed you. This said RFK Junior, who
I know people in politics, and he's a quack. Okay,
we've been through this before with what's your name? Who
(35:08):
has the the kid who's on the spectrum married, was married.
I don't know he's still married to Jim Carrey. What's
your name? God, she was super hot in the nineties.
Uh and in the early twenty percent one of my
what's where she she went on this big rampage about
vaccines causing autism and then like there's literally no medical
(35:30):
evidence that shows that. And it just gets really dangerous
because then people think, Okay, I won't to take the
COVID vaccine, then I won't take the polio vaccine, and
I want to take MMR and I want to have
my kid do anything, and you're like, what are you doing?
These things work.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Let's get to the press, the press, Lauren Holly, Was
that the name that you're looking at?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
No? Was married to? No? Damn? What was her name?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
I don't. I just looked up Jim Carrey wife and
that's what.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Pop McCarthy, Yes, Jane McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Oh yeah, she's yeah, she's married to Donnie Wahlberg.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
But she wasn't she married to or she dated Mary Carey?
Jim dated.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I think they just dated.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Caitlin Clark's the WNBA Rookie of the Month for the
month of August, the third time this season she's earned
that honor. Twenty four points per game, just over five rebounds,
an eight and a half assists per contest.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Can we not have any discussion about Rookie of the year.
It's not close. It's just not when you close.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Three out of the four years or three out of
the four months of the season.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
For the best player too right? Like not?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
She was Eastern Conference Player of the Week for the
second straight week last yesterday. So what do we do
the entire league in the Eastern Conference. Yes, DeMar Hamlin
will start his first game since suffering cardiac arrest in
January of twenty twenty three. He'll get the start in
the Bill's secondary when they take on the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Coming up to a guy who almost died in a
football field a year and a half ago is now starting,
that's kind of remarkable. I guess the question now is
if he stinks, Are we allowed to tell him he
stinks even though he was like America's hero for I
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Um.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Look, there's some stuff going on. Patrick certain signs a
huge contract. I guess there's a little baseball to talk about.
But Wednesdays are the middle of the week. It's a
big week because Thursday football, Friday, football, Saturday, lots of football,
Sunday a ton of football. Heck, we had so many. Yes,
(01:04):
football is unequivocally back. I mean Baltimore, Kansas City, Tomortnight
is incredible. But middle of the week, middle of the show,
middle of the middle of the day, let's get the midway.
He's not getting the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It's time for the midway.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, So here's what we thought we'd do. Let's do
just the most intriguing storylines from NFL teams heading into
the season. You guys, okay with that.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I want one intriguing story, each triguing story for each
of us.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Okay, Well is your idea, So.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You go, Aaron Rodgers. For those that didn't listen to
the Dan Patrick Show on Monday morning, Dan Byer and
I gave a book review to be honest, to be factual,
as call the Dan and J stew audio book review.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Your literation was impressive.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
We'll be doing like Tolstoy, Warre and P's probably next,
so look for that. I'm going to say, Aaron Rodgers,
I'm most intrigued to follow his story after reading the book.
I'm a fan of the guy. I admit on this
air all the time. I think he's very interesting. I
(02:28):
think we lose sight of how interesting he is because
he says stuff that pisses people off. So this country
typically just dismisses you if you say something against the grain.
But he's a star in the biggest sport in the
country who says interesting things. All you have to do
(02:49):
is watch the Quarterback on Netflix with Mahomes and Cousins
and a Mariota. These guys are robots that have almost
no depth to them at all. They're freak athletes that
are good at their jobs, but they're not interesting. Aaron
Rodgers is and we should appreciate that. And I'm rooting
(03:12):
for him this season. I want the Jets to go far.
If he were to win a Super Bowl, it might
be one of the greatest What do you call that?
Resurrection stories comeback stories, and I'm not just talking about
the injury. People have come back from injuries before, but
coming back from the persecution he received in the wake
(03:36):
of the.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
All dude, hold on, stop with the persecution. Wasn't persecuted.
It's really strong, really strong. You can cheer for Aaron
Rodgers because he says what he wants and he's a
unique thinker. Please don't do that. He was persecuted.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Come on, buck, look up the definition of persecution. It
was a public stoning about the public.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
The act of mistreating a person because of their race, sexticity,
sexual orientation status. Yeah, persecution is confiscation of property, incitement
of hatred, arrests, imprisonment, beating, torture, murder, executions. The guy
lied about being vaccinated and then tried to outsmart everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Be this.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's not being persecuted. He wasn't suspended for a game,
was he.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I'm not sure if he received it. No, No, I
know he got COVID a couple.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Of weeks after.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And here's another thing. Okay, we got to stop with
the all vacts, like the RFK all vaccinations are bad.
He's a quack. Okay, he just is. We can argue
whether or not the COVID vaccine should have been mandated
or what levels it should have been, and remembering which
presidency actually created in fact, fast forwarded the vaccine, that's
(05:02):
a fair discussion to have. But like, dude, really all vaccines. Yeah,
polio that really hasn't worked. Yes, it actually has smallpox,
et cetera. Like we go to crazy town over stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
He was not persecuted.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Aaron Rodgers is super interesting. The jets are super interesting.
I think anybody could happen on the top. Let's not
do the persecuted thing. So I was Sam.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Let's substitute the word persecution with the public stoning that
Aaron Rodgers received in the wake of the immunization point.
I'll clean it.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Up and edit.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Okay, Sanuary Rodgers prefers his stoning to be in private
with ayahuasca. Yeah, so, I think this is pretty obvious here.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
I don't know where that joke quent Dan your thoughts
a good joke to get us back on tracks. Sam you,
I'll lighten it up little bit. Where was the snare drum?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
It was a good joke, so we didn't need it.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. This is gonna be fairly obvious
statement here. But I think two things, huge things that
are critical to the success to your success in the NFL
are really good personnel and culture. Good culture that involves,
you know, a good coaching staff. I think that the
Detroit Lions have both of those things, and I'm curious
(06:26):
about if they can sustain they can sustain their success
that they had last year. It's a team that hadn't
won a playoff game in more than three decades, and listen,
everybody's back, including their outstanding offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, and
Vegas is high on the Lions. I'm seeing you know
about ten and a half wins for their over under
(06:48):
various sports books. So obviously there are expectations for the Lions.
And I think that two things that happened in the
offseason were really good for the Lions and in terms
of like keeping the focus off.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Of them and keeping them as sort of the underdog role.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Jordan Love's massive contract extension, which obviously put more expectations
on him, more pressure on him and the Packers to
do really well in the NFC North, and the Bears
drafting Caleb Williams number one overall. I think both of
those things took the focus off the Lions, which will
help them to sustain their success this year. And they're
(07:25):
just gonna be a hohum, keep on keeping on, keep
digging away. And I think the Lions are just great
for the NFL. I think their fans are great. I
think that them being good is a really good thing
for the NFL. So I'm curious if the Lions, I mean,
did they really lose anybody.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Dan pretty much brought everybody, including Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson,
Jimi or Gibbs, Sam Woporta, Iman Rossain Brown, Goff. I mean,
they got an outstanding offense, the defense, is up and coming.
I want to see if the Lions and their culture
is healthy enough to sustain success for the next few years.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I have so many things and I don't want to
go out. Maybe at to an end of it, I
can go ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Yeah, I want to jump in on the Lions portion
of it because there are a few teams in the
NFL that we look like Baseball. We were so we
were so wrapped into the Cubs and the Red Sox
trying to end their droughts.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
White what's thatpp White Sox two eight eight years?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Then sure, but I think that the curse of the
Bambino with the Red Sox, with the Cubs, all of
that stuff played in and especially with the heartbreak that
the Red Sox had, and when that went away, I
think major League Baseball lost something. Same thing with the
Cubs and the Lions haven't won an NFL title since
(08:38):
nineteen fifty seven. Only the Arizona Cardinals the Cardinals franchise,
have a longer drought. There's also the fact that they,
like the Browns, have never been in a Super Bowl.
So with the Lions, what I find is interesting is
if they go to the Super Bowl and lose, do
we find it a success because the Red Sox in
(08:59):
where they were, the Red Sox were, you know, a
Bill Buckner grounder away. We feel from winning a World
Series where like the Cubs drought, it's like, Okay, it's
been this long for this and this long for that.
Can they even get to a World Series? Then they
go and do it. Like I wonder if the Lions,
if they just make it to a Super Bowl, if
that will be good enough for the season. I think so,
(09:22):
Like I think that is the case with the Lions.
It would end one of those you know, of the
have nots of the NFL. That storyline would be pretty
much gone forever.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I think you're completely correct in you don't that one
does not have to win a Super Bowl get into
a super Bowl. It's like the Bengals a couple of
years ago, right where you're like the Bengals and a
Super they were so bad for so now the Bengals
weren't actually as bad as the Lions. Bengals had that
five consecutive yeers making the playoffs when Marvin was their coach.
But still it's more perception than reality. I'm having trouble
(09:54):
pairing it down, but I will just stay close to
home with my my my favorite team spend the LA Chargers.
Just Harbaugh's won everywhere. How long does this process take
and can the team get to the place that that
magical place where instead of expecting something to go wrong,
expecting something to go right and then something goes right?
(10:18):
Like Notre Dame has had this in football for a
long time, and I know they haven't been great for
a long time, but what do you call it? Lucky?
The Irish? Whatever Oklahoma football has had, they call it
Sooner magic. Just good teams find a way to win games.
They just do, you know, they figure out whatever it
takes to win. And I gotta tell you, like, I'm
intrigued by the Chargers because it's a weird Greg Roman's
(10:40):
offense is a weird fit for the quarterback and there
is a part of me that wonders. Boy Jim Harborough.
I know he's won everywhere, but Chargers are hard and
the league has changed some. I'm just fascinate to see
what the Chargers do this year. How long and how
long to teach them to win? He can teach them
to win.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
They invested in the head coaching position, and I know
that sounds disrespectful to Brandon Staley and yeah, and you
know Mike McCoy prior to that, but yeah, that is
that is what they did.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I think Keenan Allen, if you talk to him in
eight weeks halfway through the season or nine weeks, whatever
it is, if you go to Keenan Allen, say do
you regret because Keenan Allen pulled a leverage move where
he wouldn't wasn't willing to take less money, and Harba
was like, okay, we'll trade you. I wonder if you
go to Keenan Allen the midway through the season and say,
do you regret what you did? I want everyone to
(11:38):
remember this moment because I want we'll see where the
Bears are and we'll see where the Chargers are. I
really wanted Keenan Allen to be a part of something
great here because he paid his dues on dog crap.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Teams the midway.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Dan, It's funny over the last twenty four hours, there's
starting to be some rumblings everything was turning up gold
for the forty nine ers, and now I've seen some
stuff online where maybe the front office and ownership isn't
necessarily that excited on how John Lynch and the forty
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nine ers have dealt with some of these contract situations,
and that leads to the point of they gave in
to go all in on the season, and those things
can be scary when you come so close to a
Super Bowl, because yeah, you feel like you're so close.
And look at the Eagles last year. Look at what
ended up happening with them as they started out and
(12:37):
the record looked right, but many said they don't look right,
and by the end of the year they did not
look right. And I just the forty nine ers like,
this is it. This is the last chance, the last
chance before Perty gets his deal, there are going to
be other decisions that they're going to have to make
in the future. I'm looking at a screen on the
NFL network right now where you have their four talking
(12:58):
heads all picking the forty nine ers to win the
NFC West. I think a lot of people are picking
them to win the NFC. But if they don't, then
it's that it's over with. It's done with. And that
is to me, when you lose a Super Bowl at overtime,
to bounce back and feel like we just need to
run it back. I don't know if that always works,
(13:19):
and maybe it will for the forty nine ers, but
we're already seeing rumblings. Once Trent Williams returns to practice,
Ayu gets his thirty million dollar deal, everything seems to
be back and great that maybe things aren't great in
San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The off season, Like really.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, you know, is that a quiet off season that
we haven't talked about that has dominated the NFL. We
can't see Chiefs. None of us mentioned it, And I
know you want have won from each and I know
it's boring, but we're literally watching like in mid career,
the greatest career that's ever happened in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Right, the Chiefs aren't boring, I said recently, I'm intrigued
by this three peat, Like, how often in our lifetimes
will we be able to witness greatness? If they're in
the playoffs end, it's late and they're not playing the Chargers,
I'm rooting four of the Chiefs. I don't think a
lot of people do.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
That, did you, because Jason a month ago you said
that this is the most intriguing storyline of the season.
So did you take this opportunity just to get your
Jets take out there just to stir Doug's blood up,
because he.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Goes Aaron Rodgers spirit beat there.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Is because this was I used it on my Sunday
show and I gave Jason Stewart credit. I said, Jayce
du said this to me a month ago, and I
poo pooed it on how intrigued he was and how
fascinated he was and seeing the Chiefs try to go
for a three peat. And then I even did some
more research on it, and it's even more intriguing outside
(14:52):
of the of just a three peat for the Kansas
City Chiefs at where they are. I told Carrie Rhodes
on my show on Sunday five eastern, two Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, that this is the.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Teeter totter to the Patriots. You win this season. You've
gone back to back to back, which no one has
ever done in the NFL in the Super Bowl era.
No one's won three straight Super Bowls. You have now
tipped it where you are with four super bowls with
Patrick Mahomes. You're four with Andy Reid, who would need
(15:26):
two away to catch Belichick. Mahomes will be three away
from Brady. With all of this now in reach, So
maybe Andy Reid's like, yeah, I'm gonna stay. If they
win the Super Bowl, they win four games of the playoffs,
Andy Reid will be a game back of Bill Belichick
for the most playoff wins. Ever, Andy Reid also has
an opportunity to pass Bill Belichick if Belichick stays away
(15:47):
for most coach the regular season wins in an NFL career.
Think he's about thirty behind right now. So there's a
lot at stake for the Chiefs this year. And if
you win, you may think, well, way, what better way
to go out with a three peat? But I think
that puts them so much closer to be becoming that
dominant franchise that would be so difficult to walk away from.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You don't do it this year.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I still think that Patriots and Brady and Belichick still
kind of out of reach a little bit. But you
complete that three peat and continue that momentum. Wowso you're the.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Chiefe wowsa, wowsa. There's so many good storylines. I mean,
there's we didn't get to Bengals, right, and I mean
you have everybody loves Joe Burrow, but you know what
happens with that team? We didn't get to Baltimore to
Miami to Pittsburgh. Would they ever make a coaching change
(16:39):
or just the whole Russell Wilson thing, like will that
work out? So many good storylines this year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
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you get this when you because you fill in for
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filled in together with for the Dan Patrick Show. Right
is again. I was doing this when I did Cowherd
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last Friday. I kept like coming in saying, Doug Gottlieb Show,
and it's not And then I got my brain wrapped
around filling in for and then I had the filling
in for it, and I was about to go Doug
Gotlieb filling in for and I didn't like, I'm not
feeling in for anybody. I'm actually doing my own show today.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
So it does happen from time to time, mixing up.
Even when I do my Sunday show, sometimes I may
say Doug Gottlieb Show. Although I don't think I've done it,
but I've been on the verge of doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I've done it. I've done it. If you haven't heard,
it's because Sam drops it at that very very right
moment Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did
you guys see this story? The Commanders have suspended an
employee who made comments about the team's players being anti gay,
and he accused Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones being racist
and anti gay, and he called the NFL commissioner Roger
(18:12):
Goodell quote, a fifty million dollars puppet. The team said
they have suspended their vice president of content, Royale and Teen,
who's been with the organization for years. The comments he
made were to an undercover reporter from the O'Keeffe media group,
according to the social media video. And I don't know
if you guys have seen this. I have a team
(18:33):
met the reporter on a dating app app Hinge, and
met with her twice at local restaurants. The language in
the video runs counter to our values. A team spokes
been said in a statement, we have suspended the employee
pending in investigation and reserved further comment at this time.
Here's a couple of the clips. Okay, this is so
a guy's on a hinge, matches up with a woman,
(18:56):
they go on a date. Okay, he's and remember this
is the new commander's front office after Dan Snyder had
a clear hat clean house and then his wife hired
the front office and everybody. Okay, before the ownership change,
which took place.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
About a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Here's en teen talking about seeing hope the state. He
talks about sealing hope to state run media, selling hope.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Sorry, my job is to sell hope to the fans, right.
I need them buying tickets, I need them buying jerseys.
I need them consuming our contact.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
When there's not much hope to sell, I still got
to dig deep to find it.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Because why do you.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Think there's not much hope to sell? Right? Because the
stadium sucked.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
We had like pipes leaping sewage on our fans in
the middle of the game, and.
Speaker 10 (19:43):
I have to put out a social post saying like
it wasn't sewage water We promised that is state our meed.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
He talked about the NFL social justice. How do you
explain the fact that the NFL is very much into
like so justice.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's performative effort.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I mean, it's not done out of the goodness of
their art morality.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
It's done because George Floyd changed the game.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I mean that the social justice efforts are a performance for.
Speaker 10 (20:17):
The sake of public perception and not because they want
to actually push progress to get support from liberals.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, I don't.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
I think it's to make as much money as possible.
I think the NFL cares about the bottom line like
any corporation, a bubble else, and they have They don't
need to really change pennies because they make so much revenue.
Therefore they can faue prioritize DEI for the sake of
good publicity.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Hmm. It's actually a pretty interesting conversation. Just I'm blown
away by somebody who has an intimate conversation with a
guy who thinks are going on a date. Again. I'm
not saying the things that he says are all okay,
but like is there isn't there any part of you
(21:10):
that goes like, really he thought he was on a date.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, second date, coming.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
A second date, Okay, he didn't know that these answers
are going to come out on.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
The second so he's videoing his date.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Okay, So did he know the point value was double
on the second date? For these questions like it's around
a jeopardy? All right, we got what we need? Dirty Pool.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It is dirty pool again. That's my opinion, Dan, What do.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
You think I I think that it is absolutely dirty
pool to do it in that sort of scenario. I
don't think the allegations that he made are that surprising.
When you're talking about the Washington commanders, considering the horror
stories we had heard year after year and them trying
to cover it up and make it seem like everything
(22:01):
was all right. I don't think that that is a surprise.
I do find it interesting that they're, you know, the NFL,
in terms of what they've done in social justice and
what has happened. I can actually understand that. Remember they
put the you know, they put the phrases in the
end zone, and like those are still there, and I
(22:23):
don't know if there's been anything done or said or
happened with the NFL, you know, over the last three years.
But I think they're say, hey, look at what we
have written in the back of the end zone, you know.
So that's that you'll see every Sunday and Monday night.
So the allegations that we heard in those comments there
not necessarily surprising, and I can't that I'm completely shocked
(22:47):
that someone who is more on the inside would have
that sort of opinion, because I feel that a lot
of us on the outside have that opinion.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
This was.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Royale and teen, who's a VP with the Commanders who's
now suspended, saying this about alcohol and homophobia in NFL
locker rooms.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Most of the fans, I would say, are.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
High school educated alcoholics.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Most NFL fans are high school educated alcoholics.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Really with violence, like yeah, I mean there's fights in
the stands all the time, like it is, they're like
lower class people.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I hate to use that term. I would just say
mouth breathers. That's not even I know, it's way where
is it? Over fifty percent of our roster right is either.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
White, religious, and God says today is another big chunk
is a very low income African American that comes from
a community that is inherently very homophobic.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So my takeaway is that either he's playing to his
date or this is how he feels. But he is
very very to the left right, like he's socially very
conscious and he's bothered by the you know, the false
narrative that the NFL puts out there. Right, So that's
my kind of biggest takeaway. I don't know, do I
(24:18):
think it's a bad look, sure, But I also think
it's like, here's a VP who's he's trying to impress
a chick and to sound really intelligent and clearly trying
to and maybe who knows if he's super woke or
she is, or she he thinks she is and he's
just trying to play to her sensibilities. Just like, Hey,
I hate to be the guy who to say this,
(24:39):
but not everything a guy says on a date is
exactly aligned with how he actually feels. I know, I
know this may be stunning to women out there. Really,
I thought guys, especially a first and second date, like
the chances this is is somebody's being just real and
open up. Now, Look, a lot of this stuff is
(25:00):
just feels real, open and honest. Maybe he's just good
at it. And even if he does like ID this
is a little bit like what we talked about yesterday,
Jason Whare. When I hear them as opposed to when
I read them, it feels different. Again, I don't agree
with a portion of what he says, and I think
he overinflates some of the statistics with the over fifty
percent thing. And it's pretty obvious which side of the
(25:21):
political aisle he's presenting. But there's a lot of stuff
here that one not that crazy, and two you're starting
to try and figure out is he saying these things
because he believes him or is he saying these things
because he believes that she'll liked them?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Okay, wait, I want to ask again he knew he
was being videotaped during the school?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
No, he didn't know.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
You said that she had a camera or phone or something,
and yes, she's a video you can great, so I
know at least they had the audio of it, Yeah,
the video coming. It sounds to me these sound like
candid and sincere opinions from this guy.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Absolutely, there's app and the BS meter is up with me.
I don't think this is a straight man on a
on a date with a woman. You think, I don't
this sounds like a gay man an extra grind?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Absolutely, oh absolutely, But I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
He's on hinge not grind her. Is that why?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah? I have no idea. But it's you think that
he knew that he was being recorded? No, no, no, no,
I'm just saying that the dynamic doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
He doesn't think he's on a date. He thinks he's gay,
and like, no straight dude ever has an issue with,
you know, with how people treat gay like that's the
gent working, Like what are we doing here? And only
a gay guy would make these comments.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It's coming from a very from a very biased place.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I agree, it comes from a bias thing, but one
I can't tell whether he's trying to play to her sensibilities.
Maybe there's somebody he has family members that are gay
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I think. I think his comments are so accurate. I think,
I mean, I think the NFL is going to probably
do what you're doing on this show, Doug. The NFL
is going to question how it was done and why
it was done, and then trapman and blah blah blah.
But if you listen to the words verbatim, these would
be troubling things for the NFL to hear from a
VP of one of their organizations.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, what's troubling about.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It that their players are generally homophobic? I mean we
talked about this on the show recently.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Again, do we do we argue with it?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
No? No, no, but we're talking. We're on a talk show.
The NFL is in the business of presenting an image
that they're not homophobic.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
What are they supposed to You can't change how people think.
You just can't. Like, look the part where he gets
himself in trouble and I'd be interested? Is I would
be interested? I think he meant in stadium crowd, but
calling people mouth breathers in high school educated alcoholics, like that's.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Sounds like he's talking about people in this stadium. This
is too much getting into fights.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
And I gotta be honest because I just am not
following what Jason is saying. And I'm just maybe stupid
and not connecting the dots here. But I don't know
how if you're on a dating app and you're going
on a second date with this person on why you
know because the and I'll just I'll tell you how
I feel. Maybe then that can that can answer my question.
(28:20):
I actually feel that maybe these comments were made on
two separate dates, and so then he went on one date
with her. She wanted a second date. He's like, Wow,
she liked what I said. To Doug's point of maybe
I'll you know, ramp it up some since she's considering
that she liked our conversation, So I'll say the term
mouth breather to try to make her laugh and try
(28:41):
to maybe she likes that moxie from me or this
you know, this guy that knows all the inside and stuff,
and so he's playing it up that way thinking that,
you know, so like the first questions that we had heard,
I thought like, okay, that's stuff that we can see.
You know, this other stuff here is much more you
know inside, and was critical yeah, yeah, yeah. So I
(29:03):
don't understand on why we would think that that he
would be a homosexual in making these comments while he
didn't know he was.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
He was recruiting a beard that he was doing there there, Jay, I.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Think that I think you're you guys are choosing to
believe the story that this media company is presenting, and
I'm not so. Yeah, if you believe what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That you don't believe anything. You're like, that's why you
like Aaron Rodgers because you think everything is conspiracy. Nothing
is as it seemed. What the world is an illusion.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
I am not saying that, but I just I don't
understand his angle of doing that. Like if you said
there was a conspiracy theory that someone in the NFL
like this was good, this was going to be the
fall guy, like, hey, we need to out the NFL
on this. You're going to know, you're going to be
recorded and say this stuff and then we're going to
put the commanders in whatever spot or whatever.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Like. I could see that aspect of it, but.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
I just didn't. I don't understand. I don't understand that
conspiracy theory that.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
You Yeah, and I honestly haven't even thought that through.
I'm just saying that my BS meters up, it doesn't smell,
doesn't doesn't pass the smell test. The entire thing does. Well.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Can I just say, what do people talk about on
first dates? They talk about their job a lot, like
that's a that's a topic that always comes up. And
he she's coming into this date knowing he has a
very interesting job working with the NFL, working with a franchise,
And it sounds like she was asking him hard hitting
questions that he was like, Oh, this is really digging
into what I do on a you know, what I
(30:30):
deal with on a day to day basis. I'm going
to just completely go into the confessional mode and just
he let his guard down.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
It sounds too soon with this person. And how did
he not know what her job was? Did she lie
about that that she's like a reporter?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Probably? Ever, questions was not like casual social It did
sound like an interview much or a reporter. It did
in a interview. We dynamic she could just be his
date asking him questions. I guess about his jay.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
People think people fall in love at strip clubs, So
like I I if this guy was into this girl,
I don't think that her questioning would would even be
a blip on his radar.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Oh dude, he's going on on. He feels he thinks
he's the smartest. He's giving her all kinds of stuff exactly.
I I like, I would love also to know if
this was the first or the second date I'm with
I'm with Dan, because you know, like you feel somebody
out in the first date and you're like, okay, she's
super super liberal, Like okay, you know, I mean these
(31:28):
are things you gotta I don't read the room all
that well. Second time round, you're like, okay, they're super conservative.
Let's do away with the Trump jokes and just talk
about Biden be taking a nap, Right, that's really what
you do, Like you you focus on it. I just
think like if if the story is real where it
was really a hinge date and they went on a
second date and she recorded both times, like that's bull crap.
(31:52):
We can add this to the list of things you
can't do. Like you know, what you don't do. You
don't you don't publicize the world your d Your dms
are direct message between you and that person, right unless
it's some crime, you know, committed against a legit crime,
and in that case you show it to the cops.
You don't show it to the real world. It's a
private message. It's like passing a note in high school class.
(32:15):
The other things you don't do is you don't video
and audio record somebody who's on a date without their knowledge.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
That's dirty, pool, it's unsettling and disgusting and like what
was in it for her? Just because she was on
hinge and found out, Oh, this is something I could
write an article about, Like I'm gonna ask this guy.
There is just the betrayal.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
There is is just Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
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(33:10):
guys can hit me on IG anytime you want, including
Rudy Villa Reale, who's a liar. How do I know?
He last direct messaged me August thirtieth of twenty twenty one,
that's four three years ago. He said, you're stupid and
all of my friends and I stopped listening to your
show because your comments regarding the fake COVID vaccine. It
(33:33):
was fake, guys, it was fake, fake vaccine. Then today
this is at the top of the hour, we're in
a little vaccine take. Your takes on vaccines are one
of the reasons that why many people I know aren't
listening to your show. Your takes on politics turn people off.
(33:53):
Switch to eight thirty am when you come on for
this reason, word of advice. Only provide opinions on sports, Rudy,
So you're lying right. You said three years ago that
that you weren't listening anymore. Then you clearly listened some more.
And so I'll just tell you this, and this is
honestly to you, Jays too. I love you as a guy,
(34:14):
but the anti vaccine stuff is incredibly dangerous. It's uneducated
and frankly, it needs to stop.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
You're talking about you're talking about my opinions on this.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'm talking about if you want to say whether or
not we should have had a mandate on COVID vaccines.
What happens is you have people like Rudy who clearly
aren't smart enough to understand that there's a difference in
an argument whether or not a vaccine should be mandated
or passed versus overall, vaccines have, by many people's estimations,
save the world of one hundred and fifty million deaths overall. Like,
(34:48):
plenty of vaccines work and work really really well. Do
we need all of them? I don't know. You know
what I'm not. I'm not an immunologist. But the idea
that we don't need vaccines. And by the way, this
is not more directed you. This said RFK Junior, who
I know people in politics, and he's a quack. Okay,
we've been through this before with what's your name? Who
(35:08):
has the the kid who's on the spectrum married, was married.
I don't know he's still married to Jim Carrey. What's
your name? God, she was super hot in the nineties.
Uh and in the early twenty percent one of my
what's where she she went on this big rampage about
vaccines causing autism and then like there's literally no medical
(35:30):
evidence that shows that. And it just gets really dangerous
because then people think, Okay, I won't to take the
COVID vaccine, then I won't take the polio vaccine, and
I want to take MMR and I want to have
my kid do anything, and you're like, what are you doing?
These things work.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Let's get to the press, the press, Lauren Holly, Was
that the name that you're looking at?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
No? Was married to? No? Damn? What was her name?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
I don't. I just looked up Jim Carrey wife and
that's what.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Pop McCarthy, Yes, Jane McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Oh yeah, she's yeah, she's married to Donnie Wahlberg.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
But she wasn't she married to or she dated Mary Carey?
Jim dated.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I think they just dated.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Caitlin Clark's the WNBA Rookie of the Month for the
month of August, the third time this season she's earned
that honor. Twenty four points per game, just over five rebounds,
an eight and a half assists per contest.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Can we not have any discussion about Rookie of the year.
It's not close. It's just not when you close.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Three out of the four years or three out of
the four months of the season.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
For the best player too right? Like not?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
She was Eastern Conference Player of the Week for the
second straight week last yesterday. So what do we do
the entire league in the Eastern Conference. Yes, DeMar Hamlin
will start his first game since suffering cardiac arrest in
January of twenty twenty three. He'll get the start in
the Bill's secondary when they take on the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Coming up to a guy who almost died in a
football field a year and a half ago is now starting,
that's kind of remarkable. I guess the question now is
if he stinks, Are we allowed to tell him he
stinks even though he was like America's hero for I
don't know, I'm going to think about it. Download the podcast.
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