September 4, 2024 • 46 mins
On a Wednesday edition of The Best of the Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug gives his opinion on the quarterback situation with the Broncos in the wake of their star corner's Patrick Surtain's contract extension.
On this week's edition of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss the NFL storylines they are most intrigued by this season.
Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah to talk about the Chargers, 49ers and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.
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you know. Kind of interesting. I guess the story of
today is Patrick Shirtain's going to get a four year
deal ninety six million dollars. He becomes the highest paid
cornerback in the NFL at twenty four million dollars. Jared
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Alexander place for the Packers at twenty one million, AJ
terrell Is twenty million, denz Ward twenty million, Jalen Ramsey
twenty million. Top paid wide receivers make more at thirty five, thirty, four, thirty, two,
thirty and thirty being Brandon New York being the fifth
highest paid wide receiver in per year salary. But you know,
to me, I hear this story, and two things I
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think are really interesting. One, it's weird which guys who
are sons of pros we lock onto and we care
about Patrick Shirtan obviously son of a pro and a
good one. The second part, too, it is it's just
hard to talk about anything Broncos without concentrating on the
quarterback position, you know, without any without discussing the quarterback position,
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Like it's impossible to talk about the Denver Broncos. And
I think what's most interesting is if we look at
a couple things. You know, this time of year, we
usually make general predictions. And I remember when they traded
for Russell Wilson. I have to tell you I thought
it was a home run. I've been wrong about a lot.
(02:10):
You do this for twenty one, twenty two years, You're
gonna be wrong about a lot of things. That's just reality.
I know what happens is you get trolled when Steph
Curry has an unbelievable game for USA basketball. I get trolled,
right you name it, guys at Lamar Jackson, I thought
sam Don would better than Lamar Jackson. You get trolled,
but if you do it for twenty twe twenty two years,
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you know you're gonna run into way more often than
not people who remember way back in the past something
you may have said. But I want you to think
about something. Okay, can you name the Broncos quarterbacks and
the passer lead passing leaders, because there's more than one
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for most of these seasons for the Denvers since Peyton
Manning retired. Can you remember, okay, Trevor Simeon, case Keenum,
Joe Flacco, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater, Russell Wilson. And you
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know now they're going to try a rookie right now,
a very a rookie who's played just a ton, a
crap ton of college football, but a rookie nonetheless. So
I look at this thing and I think, no matter
what you tell me about their defense, and I understand
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when you have quarterbacks not making a ton of money,
that you can spend a bunch of money on the defense.
Like I'm fully well aware, well versed in how the
business of the NFL works. So maybe that's the story.
Although they're still paying Russell Wilson's bill is still on
this year's salary. But I look the Denver Broncos and
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you know, I look at those names since Peyton Manning retired,
and I think, can bo Nis be the stabilizing force?
Can he get multi years as a starter? Can he
just be solid? Forget about can he be a star?
Can he be solid? And this is for Sean Payton, Like,
this is a Sean Payton. It didn't work with Russell Wilson,
but that wasn't your guy. This is your hand picked
quarterback for your own new franchise. You have basic autonomy
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in who you pick and what you want to do.
If you can't get this right, it just shows how
hard it is to get it right. But it's like
it's fascinating to me. I we want to do a
midway about all the big storylines in the NFL. When
I think Broncos, I don't care about anything other than quarterback,
anything other than quarterback, where Whereas I don't think that's
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the storyline for most teams in the NFL. Some sure,
you know you're the Washington Commanders and you've been waiting.
I mean when Alex Smith was healthy before he shredded
his knee and had seventeen surgeries on or whatever. You
were in first place in the NFC East. We got hurt.
Your entire franchise fell apart. Ownership has changed. Now you
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got some clown VP on some date where he's saying
negative things about the team and about the league. So
the Washington Commanders, they're about the quarterback. You got a
new coach, you got Cliff Kingsbury, You've got an E
league quarterback or talent at quarterback. It's about the quarterback.
The Denver Broncos, it's about the quarterback. But like for
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the Chargers, I think it's just more about the little
things that the previous coaching staffs didn't do. And does
Justin Herbert fit this style for Lamar Jackson, for Dak Prescott,
for Brock Purty. None of this matters until you get
to the playoffs, anyway, it just doesn't. But I think
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the Denver Broncos. When I hear Broncos, the only thing
that I think about is, well, I wonder if bo
Nicks is as good as I think he is or
hope he is. And I can only think of a
handful of teams where it's really that cut and dry
that it's about the quarterback. Even though most of these
teams are about the quarterback. I forget who said it yesterday, like, well,
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you know, he's always he's not very good with the
back of the quarterback. Nobody's good with the back of
quarterback unless you fall into it, Tom Brady, unless you
fall into it, or you draft and develop a Jordan Love,
you know, or Jalen Hurts, you know, who develops over time. Generally, though,
you get to your backup quarterback, and that guy is
a backup for a reason, especially when you have a
big name starter. But I think, you know, for brock Perty,
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it's what's the ceiling there? For Lamar Jackson, it's can
he do it in the playoffs? For the dever Broncos
is can they get competent quarterback play out of a Knicks?
And there's very few players where the bar is set
that low. But it's this interesting and they've created a
lot like Chicago Bears. They've created a pretty soft landing
spot for their rookie quarterback. Let's see if he can
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take care of it. Let's see if he can take
advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He may.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
He may not. He may he may not. But it
is interesting that the highest paid wide receivers make ten
million dollars plus more a year than the highest paid cornerbacks.
You could make the argument that an elite quarter cornerback
is as or more valuable to a team than elite
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wide receiver, but the salaries haven't caught up. It's a
lot like a tight end to a wide receiver. Right
tight ends block cam block. Tight ends can make tough catches.
Tight ends also can volume. Mark Andrews can make volumes
of catches, but his numbers, no matter how highly paid he'spin,
has never gotten anywhere near that of the wide receiver market.
Is a weird thing in the NFL. What we value
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ninety six million dollars a year deal. It is It
does a yearly average twenty four million, which is three
million more than jyr Alexander. That's set in the market.
That's changing the market. Uh, but it's still eleven million
dollars below out of Justin Jefferson.
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certain signs a huge contract. I guess there's a little
baseball to talk about. But Wednesdays are the middle of
the week. It's a big week because Thursday football, Friday, football, Saturday,
lots of football, Sunday ton of football. Heck, we have
so many. Yes, football is unequivocally back. I mean, Baltimore,
(09:26):
Kansas City, Tomortnight is incredible. But middle of the week,
middle of the show, middle of the middle of the day.
Let's get to midway. He's not getting the middle with you.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's time for the middle.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The midway. Okay, so here's what we thought we'd do.
Let's do just the most intriguing storylines from NFL teams
heading into the season. You guys, okay with that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I want one intriguing story each the intriguing story for
each of us.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, well is your idea, So.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You go, Aaron Rodgers. For those that didn't listen to
the Dan Patrick Show on Monday morning, Dan Byer and
I gave a book review to be honest, to be factual.
It's called the Dan and J. Stew Audio Book Review.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Your literation was impressive.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We'll be doing like Tolstoy, Warre and P's probably next,
so look for that. I'm going to say, Aaron Rodgers,
I'm most intrigued to follow his story after reading the book.
I'm a fan of the guy. I admit on this
air all the time. I think he's very interesting. I
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think we lose sight of how interesting he is because
he says stuff that pisses people off. So this country
typically just dismisses you if you say something against the grain.
But he's a star in the biggest sport in the
country who says interesting things. All you have to do
(11:08):
is watch The Quarterback on Netflix with Mahomes and Cousins
and Za Mariota. These guys are robots that have almost
no depth to them at all. They're freak athletes that
are good at their jobs, but they're not interesting. Aaron
Rodgers is and we should appreciate that. And I'm rooting
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for him this season. I want the Jets to go far.
If he were to win a Super Bowl, it might
be one of the greatest what do you call that?
Resurrection stories comeback stories, And I'm not just talking about
the injury. People have come back from injuries before, but
coming back from the persecution he received in the wake
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of the.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Dude, hold on, stop with the persecution. Isn't persecuted. It's
really strong, really strong. You can cheer for Aaron Rodgers
because he says what he wants and he's a unique thinker.
Please don't do that. He was persecuted.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Come on, buck, look up the definition of persecution. It
was a public stoning about the public.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
The act of mistreating a person because of their race, sex, ethicity,
sexu orientation status. Yeah, persecution is confiscation of property, incitement
of hatred, arrests, imprisonment, beating, torture, murder, executions. The guy
lied about being vaccinated and then tried to outsmart everybody.
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Be this that's not being persecuted. He wasn't suspended for
a game, was he.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'm not sure if he received any No, I know
he got COVID a couple of weeks AFO.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And here's another thing. Okay, we got to stop with
the all vacs, like the RFK all vaccinations are bad.
He's a quack. Okay, he just is. We can argue
whether or not the COVID vaccines should have been mandated
or what levels it should have been, and remembering which
presidency actually created and fast fast forwarded the vaccine, that's
(13:21):
a fair discussion to have. But like, dude, really all vaccines? Yeah,
polio that really hasn't worked. Yes, it actually has smallpox,
et cetera. Like we go to crazy town over stuff.
He was not persecuted. Aaron Rodgers is super interesting. The
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jets are super interesting. I think anybody could happen on
the top four. Let's not do the persecuted thing. So
I was Sam.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Let's substitute the word persecution with the public stoning that
Aaron Rodgers received in the wake of the immunization point.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Cleaned it up and edit.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Okay, rody Dy Rodgers prefers his stoning to be in
private with ayahuasca. So I think this is pretty obvious here.
I don't even know where that joke went. Dan, your
thoughts A good joke to get us back on tracks.
You lighten it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Where was the snare drum?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
It was a good joke, so we didn't need it.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. This is gonna be fairly obvious
statement here. But I think two things, huge things that
are critical to the success to your success the NFL
are really good personnel and culture. Good culture that involves,
you know, a good coaching staff. I think that the
Detroit Lions have both of those things, and I'm curious
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about if they can sustain they can sustain their success
that they had last year. It's a team that hadn't
won a playoff game in more than three decades. And listen,
everybody's back, including their outstanding offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, and
Vegas is high on the Lions. I'm seeing, you know,
about ten and a half wins for their over under
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various sports books. So obviously there are expectations for the Lions,
and I think that two things that happened in the
offseason were really good for the Lions in terms of
like keeping the focus off of them and keeping them
as sort of the underdog role. Jordan Love's massive contract extension,
which obviously put more expectations on him, more pressure on
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him and the Packers to do really well in the
NFC North, and the Bears drafting Caleb Williams number one overall.
I think both of those things took the focus off
the Lions, which will help them to sustain their success
this year. And they're just going to be a hohum,
keep on keeping on, keep digging away. And I think
the Lions are just great for the NFL. I think
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their fans are great. I think that them being good
is a really good thing for the NFL. So I'm
curious if the Lions, I mean, did they really lose anybody.
Dan pretty much brought everybody, including Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson,
Jimi or Gibbs, Sam Laporta, I'm on Rossaint Brown golf.
I mean, they got an outstanding offense, the defense is
up and coming. I want to see if the Lions
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and their culture is healthy enough to sustain success for
the next few years.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I have so many things and I don't want to
go out. Maybe at to an end of it, I
can go ahead.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Yeah, I just I want to jump in on the
Lions portion of it because there are a few teams
in the NFL that we look like baseball. We were
so we were so wrapped into the Cubs and the
Red Sox trying to end their droughts.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
White Tux, what's pp White Sox two eight eight years?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Drink?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Sure? But I think that the curse of the Bambino
with the Red Sox and Billy Go with the Cubs,
all of that stuff played in and especially with the
heartbreak that the Red Sox had, and when that went away,
I think major League Baseball lost something. Same thing with
the Cubs, and the Lions haven't won an NFL title
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since nineteen fifty seven. Only the Arizona Carrs MC Cardinals
franchise have a longer drought. There's also the fact that they,
like the Browns, have never been in a Super Bowl.
So with the Lions, what I find is interesting is
if they go to the Super Bowl and lose, do
we find it a success because the Red Sox in
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where they were, the Red Sox were, you know, a
Bill Buckner grounder away we feel from winning a World
Series where like the Cubs drought, it's like, Okay, it's
been this long for this and this long for that.
Can they even get to a World Series? Then they
go and do it. Like I wonder if the Lions,
if they just make it to a super Bowl, if
that will be good enough for the season. I think so,
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Like I think that is the case with the Lions.
It would end one of those you know, of the
have nots of the NFL. That storyline would be pretty
much gone forever.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I think you're completely correct in you don't that one
does not have to win a Super Bowl get into
a super Bowl. It's like the Bengals couple years ago,
right where you're like the Bengals and super BA were
so bad for so now the Bengals weren't actually as
bad as the Lions. Bengals had that five consecutive beers
making the playoffs when Marvin was their coach, but still
it's more perception than reality. I'm having trouble pairing it down,
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but I will just stay close to home with my
my my favorite team, which has been the LA Chargers,
just Harbaugh's one everywhere. How long does this process take
and can the team get to the place that that
magical place where instead of expecting something to go wrong,
expecting something to go right and then something goes right.
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Like Notre Dame has had this in football for a
long time, and I know they haven't been great for
a long time, but what do you call it? Lucky?
The Irish? Whatever Oklahoma football has had, they call it
Sooner magic. Just good teams find a way to win games.
They just do, you know, they figure out whatever it
takes to win. And I got to tell you, like,
I'm intrigued by the Chargers because it's a weird Greg
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Roman's offense is a weird fit for the quarterback and
there is a part of me that wonders boy Jim Harborough.
I know he's won everywhere, but Chargers are hard and
the league has changed some. I'm just fascining to see
what the Chargers do this year. They how long, how
long he teaches him to win? He can teach them
to win.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They invested in the head coaching position and I know
that sounds disrespectful to Brandon Staley and yeah, yeah, and
you know Mike McCoy prior to that, but yeah, that
is that is what they did.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I think Keenan Allen, if you talk to him in
eight weeks, half halfway through the season or nine weeks,
whatever it is, if you go to Keenan Allen, say
do you regret because Keenan Allen pulled a leverage move
where he wouldn't wasn't willing to take less money and
Harbor I was like, okay, we'll trade you. I wonder
if you go to Keenan Allen the midway through the
season and say, do you regret what you did? I
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want everyone to remember this moment because I want we'll
see where the Bears are and we'll to where the
Chargers are. I really wanted Keenan Allen to be a
part of something great here because he paid his dues
on dog crop teams.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The midway.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Dan, It's funny over the last twenty four hours there's
starting to be some rumblings everything was turning up gold
for the forty nine ers, and now I've seen some
stuff online where maybe the front office and ownership isn't
necessarily that excited on how John Lynch and the forty
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nine ers have dealt with some of these contract situations,
and that leads to the point of they gave in
to go all in on this season, and those things
can be scary when you come so close to a
Super Bowl, because yeah, you feel like you're so close.
And look at the Eagles last year. Look at what
ended up happening with them as they started out and
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the record looked right, but many said they don't look right,
and by the end of the year they did not
look right. And I just the forty nine ers like,
this is it. This is the last chance, the last
chance before Perty gets his deal, There're gonna be other
decisions that they're gonna have to make in the future.
I'm looking at a screen on the NFL network right
now where you have their four talking heads all picking
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the forty nine ers to win the NFC West. I
think a lot of people are picking them to win
the NFC. But if they don't, then it's that it's
over with. It's done with. And that is to me,
when you lose a Super Bowl at overtime to bounce
back and feel like we just need to run it back.
I don't know if that always works, and maybe it
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will for the forty nine ers, but we're already seeing rumblings.
Once Trent Williams returns to practice, AU gets his thirty
million dollar deal, everything seems to be back and great
that maybe things aren't great in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is the off season really?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know? Is that a quiet off season that we
haven't talked about that is dominated the NFL. You can't
see Chiefs. None of us mentioned it, and I know
you wanted won from each and I know it's boring,
but we're literally watching like in mid career, the greatest
career that's ever happened in the NFL. Right, the Chiefs
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aren't boring at all.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I said recently, I'm intrigued by those three people, Like,
how often in our lifetimes will we be able to
witness greatness? If they're in the playoffs end, it's late
and they're not playing the Chargers, I'm rooting four of
the Chiefs. I don't think a lot of people do that.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Did you, because Jason a month ago you said that
this is the most intriguing storyline of the season, So
did you take this opportunity just to get your Jets
take out there just to stir Doug's blood up because he.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Goes Aaron Rodgers spirit beef.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
There is because this was I used it on my
Sunday show and I gave Jason Stewart credit. I said,
Jayce dou said this to me a month ago, and
I poo pooed it on how intrigued you and how
fascinated he was in seeing the Chiefs try to go
for a three peat. And then I even did some
more research on it, and it's even more intriguing outside
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of the of just a three peat for the Kansas
City Chiefs at where they are. I told Kerry Rhodes
on my show on Sunday five eastern, two Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio, Yeah, that this is the teeter totter
to the Patriots. You win this season, You've gone back
to back to back, which no one has ever done
in the NFL in the Super Bowl era, no one's
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won three straight Super Bowls. You have now tipped it
where you are with four super bowls with Patrick Mahomes.
You're four with Andy Reid, who would need two away
to catch Belichick. Mahomes will be three away from Brady
with all of this now in reach, so maybe Andy
Reid's like, yeah, I'm gonna stay. If they win the
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Super Bowl, they win four games of the playoffs, Andy
Reid will be a game back of Bill Belichick for
the most playoff wins. Ever, Andy Reid also has an
opportunity to pass Bill Belichick if Belichick stays away for
most coach the regular season wins in an NFL career.
I think he's about thirty behind right now. So there's
a lot at stake for the Chiefs this year. And
if you win, you may think, well, way, what better
way to go out with a three peat? But I
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think that puts them so much closer to be becoming
that dominant franchise that would be so difficult to walk
away from. You don't do it this year. I still
think that Patriots and Brady and Belichick still kind of
out of reach a little bit. But you complete that
three peat and continue that momentum. Wowsa if you're the
Chief wowsa.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wowsa. There's so many good storylines. I mean, there's we
didn't get to Bengals, right, and I mean, you have
everybody loves Joe Burrow, but you know what happens with
that team. We didn't get to Baltimore to Miami to Pittsburgh.
Would they ever make a coaching change or just the
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whole Russell Wilson thing? Will that workout? So many good
storylines this year in the NFL. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
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The crown is yours. You asked about this story, and
I gotta be honest with you, Jay stew I don't
know what the deal is, but I can tell you
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that again, optics wise, it looks terrible. So here's the story.
Penny Hardaway. Today, today is September fourth. We start school
here at ed UB Green Bay today. So we've had meetings.
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We are going to add a staff member. We potentially
have like I don't know, forty eight hours to add
if we want to add one more player. But it's
super super interesting what happened at Memphis today where they
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brought in eight new players. That's not all that new,
but today they fired four members of their staff. Rick Stansbury,
longtime head coach at Mississippi State and then Western Kentucky.
He's the old head on the staff. He was let go.
Froggy Phillips and Jamie Rosser were let go. So was
Demetrius Dyson, who's like a special advisor. You know, that's
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like a non benefits sort of position. But you get
five assistants, and three of them you fire when school's
already started. I just something's up there. I have no
idea what it is. You know, if it was one
guy and one incident, by all means, then you know,
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not that big a deal. The only thing potentially I
could see in terms of Penny taking back his program.
And I don't know any of this to be true,
but it's just the idea of Hey, whether there was
a coup or whether it was guys talking ish about
Penny or part of the staff and he just heard
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about it and got rid of all of them. But
I can't imagine even starting today, we have not started school.
When I get done with this show at four o'clock
Central time, we begin practice at four fifteen. I can't
imagine me like, Okay, we've already started. Now I got
to find four new assistant coaches. You can find them,
but just getting them all up and running that that
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is hard. Is there the chance there that there's something
in terms of academics and getting guys eligible that they
found found out and anybody involved is gone. Sure? That
seems most logical, right, It seems most logical because here's
here's what happens. And you have to be very very
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purposeful about what you say to your staff. You know.
It's like I have coaches. Each coach is assigned to
a player, not one player, to several. They have like
four players, right, and of those guys like academics that
I just don't have the time to be looking at
each of their classes. They do. They got four guys.
They look through all four guys classes every day or whatever.
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And many of these players take mostly if not all,
online classes. But you can't. That laptop has to be
in the hands of the player. They can ask you questions,
you can give them, and of course you got to
have academic people. But to me, there's only two possibilities.
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One is the outs very outside chance that there was
a coup. I don't think that took place. Rick Stansbury
knows the deal. I don't see that happening. The more
likely thing is something in regards to academics and NCAA compliance,
and I don't think it has anything to do with money.
And guys got caught up in the wash. I saw
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this or I heard this, and I thought it was
really interesting, really really interesting. It's Brandon Ayuke talking about
he making it a mission. I think it's interesting. I
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Speaker 7 (29:51):
I think I'm not gonna lie I made a little
bit more difficult than it needed to at the end,
But yeah, it was. I mean it was like that
from I'm not gonna say the whole entire time but uh,
for about the past month, I think we're we're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah. So look, this is I talk about this. I
use real estate as the analogy called chasing the market.
And I think most of us know somebody in our
neighborhood is chased the market, especially right now, like home sales.
They the rates of drop schools back in sessions. So
home sales, it hasn't been a great year or so,
(30:27):
and relatively it's kind of a flat time of year, right,
but there'll be somebody who, you know, the Smiths down
the street sold their house for one hundred grand over asking.
You know, they got seven eighty for a house that
they had the market for six eighty. And it was
a bit of a bidding war. And Jim comes home
(30:47):
and he tells Margaret, Margaret, we're selling the house. The
Smiths sold theirs for seven eighty. Ours has got a
nicer pool to sell our house. Mark's like, I don't know, Jim,
I don't know. It's a weird time of year. School's
already in session. Margaret, I got this, rates have dropped,
(31:08):
we have the comps, we move the house. We'll go
and you can do your magic to another house. Right,
But what happens is if you put your house on
the mark for too much money, and then it sits
and sits and sits, and then you lower the price
to the price it should have been to begin with. Well,
somebody looks sen, It's like, why has the houseman house
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been on the market for three four months? What do
I not know that somebody else knows? And you end
up selling it for far less than you ever wanted
to because you chase the market from putting in a
position too high. I didn't think I you chased it
that much, but you listen to him, and he did say, basically, hey,
we came on too strong from the start. Let's welcome in.
(31:52):
Daniel Jeremiah DJ joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio Live atthtyreck dot com studios.
They get Trent Williams, they get Brandon Ayuk one last
year of brock perty at this very very reasonable rate
at quarterback. What are your thoughts on the Niners likely
that of getting back to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Well, I think they're obviously all in right now and
it's and I want to say now or never, because
they're not going anywhere. But I do think there are
some key players on this team that you could start
seeing a little bit of decline. And I think they'd
smart by Trent Williams, who's you know, he's played great,
but at his age, you know that at some point
in time that's going to start to slow down a
(32:33):
little bit. So, you know, I kind of think that's
good agent things and smart on his on his behalf
to get the new deal done. But I just look
at it as we start the season, Doug, and I'm
looking at them, and I'm looking at the NFC, and
I know everybody's kind of talked about them as the
overwhelming favorite. I just I go back to the game
that they played against the Lions, which the Lions had
(32:55):
a great opportunity to win, and I look at the
age of the key players on that team versus some
of the players on the Niners, and I feel like
the Lions are going to be better and I feel
like the Niners are trying to hold serve here. So
I'm leaning towards the Lions in the NFC this year.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, what are the Lions missing in your mind?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Pull The secondary was the you know, major issue for
them last year, so they go out and they draft
Terry and Arnold, they draft Innis Rake Straw, they get
two really young talented corners. They make a trade. Oh gosh,
Jamel Dean comes in. So they've they've done things to
try and to try and upgrade that secondary. Now we
got to wait and see it, see how it all
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comes together. But they've they were aggressive and attacking their
greatest weakness and offensively. I think one of the biggest
storylines that maybe never gets discussed was if I would
have told you at the end of the year, after
the way the Lions offense played, and told you the
number of head coaching jobs that were open that the
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Lions are going to be able to retain Ben Johnson
as their offensive coordinator. That was huge, absolutely huge for them.
And by the way, Carlton Davis, not Jamel Deane, a
former Bucks corner, got the wrong one.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, no, it happens. It happens. I mean, you have
a thousand names in your head. Every once in a while,
you're going to get one first name wrong. That does happen.
Daniel Jeremiah joining us. It's interesting. We're talking about Patrick
Sertain's contract and it's great. He's tell tremendous players, son
of a pro, all that stuff. But it's like Denver Broncos,
their season, their future, everything really rests on what they
(34:35):
figured out the quarterback STIs now.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
No, I think that's accurate. You know, it's at the
end of the day, we can go through and preview
all these teams and talk about hopes and dreams and
rosters and offensive line and defensive line. I don't want
to oversimplify it, but you know, it's hard for me
to envision the Broncos having a really good year without
Votnix having a really good year. And I mean, I
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think those fortunes are directly tied to one another. I
do support. I'd love to get your take on this, dug,
because you look at things from an outside perspective and
just an overall sports perspective. One of the things, and
maybe it came out a little bit with the Brian
Flores to us stuff, but I've always felt with young players,
I don't know that you can pump enough confidence into
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them like that car runs on confidence. So when I
see I think Caleb Williams was named the starter, sorry
was named the captain. Bo Nix was named the captain. Like,
I've never understood the reluctance to praise young players when
it feels like to me, man, the confidence is so fragile,
to just pump them full of it, I think is
(35:44):
a good move.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well, it's interesting you bring it up. I do think
that while confidence has always been an issue for all athletes,
I think it's an even bigger issue now, right, Like,
we've all guys have insecurities, but now when everything is public,
from who you're dating, what you're driving, how much you
make everything, everybody knows everything. There's some have little imposter syndrome,
(36:07):
some just have jealousy. Whatever it is. There's all kinds
of insecurities out there. So yeah, why don't they do
it more well? Because again it's the fight between old
and new school. Make him earn it before you give
him praise. You can't have a rookie be a captain.
I'd give it to an old veteran, etcetera, etcetera. It's
trying to get out of the way of the old ways.
Would be my best guss.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Yeah, I think the other thing I would you know
that I always pay attention to is you know, press conferences,
postgame comments from coaches on young quarterbacks, And I've just
to me's there's time for criticism, and I'm taking that
behind closed doors with the young guys. And there's ways
to kind of, you know, hey, we'll hold them accountable
in front of the team and do those things. But
(36:50):
I've never understood and it doesn't happen a lot, but
there are examples of guys of coaches who are kind of,
you know, somewhat hyper critical of young players. Right after
a game, I'm going like, do you know how fragile
this is with these guys? Like this is not the
way to go.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
No, not the way to go in in any way.
I actually, can I ask you a question? Now? Can
I ask you? This is okay? So in I know,
but it's a non football more just kind of gauging
your thoughts because again, you're outside of the the box
of who I normally ask. So I have media. We
have Horizon League Media Day in two weeks, fourteen days, yeah, exactly,
(37:32):
September eighteenth in Indianapolis. And I have how many new
guys I have? I have four I have like counting
walk ons, I have fourteen new guys. So I got
a lot of guys to choose from. Now I have
two returners that are really good, solid kids. Man. They
represent everything you'd want in any university, and they're gonna play.
(37:52):
They're good players. But part of me wants to give
that experience to at least one of the younger guys,
not just because he's one that I brought in and
I recruited, but just kind of a different perspective, different voice,
different representation. How much do you think that matters in
the locker room, like who I picked to go to
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media day?
Speaker 8 (38:15):
Well, I think it matters today more than it would
have when we were growing up and playing. But I
think I think as long as you articulate the reasons
for whoever you choose, I think you'll be okay. I
think the times where that gets off the rails and
maybe gets a little squirrely is when everybody in the
team just kind of finds out who you're taking to
that thing and nobody had any explanation for it, you know.
(38:36):
I think that's when you get the back talk, you know,
or people talking and close corners, and that's the last
thing you want. So I think as long as you're hey, guys,
this is not this, this is just what it is,
don't make it more than it is. But I'm taking
this player in this player. I'm taking this player because
of what he's meant to this program in the past
and his leadership. And I'm taking this player because I
want to take somebody from this group of all you
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young guys that have come in here and and give
you as a voice for what we're trying to do here.
So I think as long as you communicate that, I
think you're good.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Daniel Jeremiah joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Let me ask you about a
couple of these other teams. Let's talk Packers. Okay, I
think Look, Jordan Love was way better than anybody thought
he would be last year. There were some moments you're like, Okay,
now they give him a gigantic contract, and of course
(39:28):
with that comes gigantic expectations. Still a relatively young football team,
and as you mentioned, they got the lines in this division.
Bear's got to be better offensively. We'll see on the Vikings.
You know you and I are both big Sam Donald guys.
Will the performance meet the expectations for Jordan Love?
Speaker 8 (39:49):
I'm curious on them. I think a lot of people
have made some assumptions that growth is linear for players
and for teams. So you know, look, I just made
that statement about the Lions and how they have all
these young talented players and I think they're just on
the ascension, but they have a quarterback who's a little
more seasoned and a little more weathered. So I don't
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think with all quarterbacks. I mean, we've seen it, like
Josh Allen's a great example of you know, we've seen
you know, he's an amazing player, but there's been some
dips along the along the journey, and I don't think
that I don't think it's reasonable to expect that Jordan
Love is going to be on this steady upward trajectory.
I think there'll be some bumps along the road. I'm
with them. I'm almost more curious to see how the
(40:35):
you know, we're just gonna spread the ball around. They
have all these you know, really really good B level
receivers that you know, eventually somebody's going to want to
be the alpha of that group. A. Who's that going
to be? And B how does that? How does that
shake out with the rest of the room.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It's the Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
so I'm told that Jay S, do you have some
some research on the Padres for DJ.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, I went to work while you guys chatted about football.
I went to work. I promised Daniel that I would
do this because I'm you know, I'm that guy. Fernando
Tatis had his big return to the Padres lineup yesterday,
and I know Padre fans are excited. I have a
feeling Daniel is, but I just want to be the
guy that offers a little balance in this moment. The
(41:28):
record of the Padres this year when Tattoos is in
the lineup is five hundred. Remember when the Padres almost
went to the World Series in twenty twenty two. That
just happened to be the year that Fernando Tatis was
suspended for the entire season. He returned last year and
they went eighty two and eighty. So what does that
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tell a Dodger fan about Fernando Tatusa's return to the lineup.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
It's a great it's a great point, and it's one
that if it's a very surface level conversation, you can
probably get away with that argument. But let's add some
facts onto this Let's start first of all, at twenty
twenty two. Fernando did not play in twenty two. Thet
he played the year before in twenty one, they weren't
as good. You know who wasn't there in twenty one,
a guy by the name of one Soto who came
(42:17):
over halfway to the year. There, So you have Manny
Machado has a monster year. One Sodo is in the mix.
He has a monster year.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Then you look.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
At you know, last year, the most unlucky team in baseball,
and that the metrics were ridiculous just in terms of
how unlucky they were, one one run games, all that crap.
Let's get to this year. Jay stew Manny Machado, who
has off season elbow surgery. He starts off the year.
The first month he hit two seventeen. The second month
he hit twoin fifty eight. Then he hit two thirty.
(42:48):
Those are his first three months. Now the elbow's healthy,
and that coincides with when Tatieth is gone. He hits
three thirty three. Then he comes back, he hits a
zillion home runs six home runs. In the next month,
he's hitting three zho two with seven home runs in
this in July. I mean, the guy's been on fire.
So now we get to add Tatis to a healthy machado.
(43:08):
And that's why all my Dodgers fans are scared to
death about that five game series. We're fixing the.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Half here in a month or so, Dodger fan reaction.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I'm going to respond with a phrase that Adam Carolla
once said over the earth. This guarantees me a tie? Right,
you guys ready for it?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm ready?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah? But still, what's the.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Season series between those two teams this year? The curious
I forget yep, yeah, we already, we already cuinched that
we still have three more.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
With you, guys, I ask you this all summer long,
and now we've had a chance. You've had a chance
to call people. Give me somebody that we should be
paying attention to as a team, like they're pretty damn good.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
Ooh, well, I mean there is. This is the conversation
that I have every years. I call around to people
during roster cuts. Yep, and I'd say, who had the
toughest decisions and who cut the best players?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Sure, because that means they that means they have good
players that they had to make our decision it was
the Jets.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
Doug, the Jets. They everybody I talked to you, they
had several they had a couple of corners get claimed.
Their defensive line is stacked. Like defensively, they are absolutely loaded.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Now they're the mL of that defense is really talented.
But they take a lot of chances. Now, maybe they
took a lot of chances because who their quarterback was
last year, but it was there was some a lack
of discipline, was was what I had heard.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Yeah, I think they can rush for even without his
sound Radick, and hopefully that eventually gets figured out. But
even without him, I think they can rush for. They
can smother you in the secondary. But they just gave
their nickelback ten million dollars a year, Michael Carter, because
he's one of those people, not many one of those
guys not many people are aware of. But it's probably
the best nickel in the league. They're absolutely loaded on defense.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Hmm, Okay, give me somebody. Everybody's talking about who they're
not that good. I have one. It's pretty obvious, but
give me to give you one.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
Hears everybody's talking about that's not that good. Yeah, well,
everybody still I know a lot of there's still some
skepticism about the Bears from people that I talk to
just about you know, how good is the offensive line?
Love the skill, but the offensive line is still a
little bit of a question mark there.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I was gonna go with with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
Yeah, their offensive line is beat up too, and we
don't know what we're going to get a quarterback, so
it's fair.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And when you don't know who you're going to get
a quarterback and the offensive line is beat up, that's
a problem. That's that's a problem. That's a problem. DJ.
You ready for the Bolts?
Speaker 8 (45:48):
Oh dude, I cannot wait picked up my chart today
to call this game on Sunday, Chargers Raiders. It's gonna
be I mean, this is the most anticipated Charger opener
I can remember, just because of you know, Harbaugh's presence,
and nobody knows exactly what this is going to look
like and I can't wait for it to get here.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
And of course having Tom Telesco, a mutual friend of ours,
who is the former general manager of the Chargers, being
the general manager of the Raiders makes it makes it
weird as an understatement, like general managers, don't you jont
get another gentle manager job. Let alone the next year,
let alone with the arch rival of the other team.
That's that's crazy. DJ, you're the best. Appreciate joining us.
Speaker 8 (46:27):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
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you know. Kind of interesting. I guess the story of
today is Patrick Shirtain's going to get a four year
deal ninety six million dollars. He becomes the highest paid
cornerback in the NFL at twenty four million dollars. Jared
(00:55):
Alexander place for the Packers at twenty one million, AJ
terrell Is twenty million, denz Ward twenty million, Jalen Ramsey
twenty million. Top paid wide receivers make more at thirty five, thirty, four, thirty, two,
thirty and thirty being Brandon New York being the fifth
highest paid wide receiver in per year salary. But you know,
to me, I hear this story, and two things I
(01:18):
think are really interesting. One, it's weird which guys who
are sons of pros we lock onto and we care
about Patrick Shirtan obviously son of a pro and a
good one. The second part, too, it is it's just
hard to talk about anything Broncos without concentrating on the
quarterback position, you know, without any without discussing the quarterback position,
(01:47):
Like it's impossible to talk about the Denver Broncos. And
I think what's most interesting is if we look at
a couple things. You know, this time of year, we
usually make general predictions. And I remember when they traded
for Russell Wilson. I have to tell you I thought
it was a home run. I've been wrong about a lot.
(02:10):
You do this for twenty one, twenty two years, You're
gonna be wrong about a lot of things. That's just reality.
I know what happens is you get trolled when Steph
Curry has an unbelievable game for USA basketball. I get trolled,
right you name it, guys at Lamar Jackson, I thought
sam Don would better than Lamar Jackson. You get trolled,
but if you do it for twenty twe twenty two years,
(02:34):
you know you're gonna run into way more often than
not people who remember way back in the past something
you may have said. But I want you to think
about something. Okay, can you name the Broncos quarterbacks and
the passer lead passing leaders, because there's more than one
(02:56):
for most of these seasons for the Denvers since Peyton
Manning retired. Can you remember, okay, Trevor Simeon, case Keenum,
Joe Flacco, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater, Russell Wilson. And you
(03:19):
know now they're going to try a rookie right now,
a very a rookie who's played just a ton, a
crap ton of college football, but a rookie nonetheless. So
I look at this thing and I think, no matter
what you tell me about their defense, and I understand
(03:41):
when you have quarterbacks not making a ton of money,
that you can spend a bunch of money on the defense.
Like I'm fully well aware, well versed in how the
business of the NFL works. So maybe that's the story.
Although they're still paying Russell Wilson's bill is still on
this year's salary. But I look the Denver Broncos and
(04:02):
you know, I look at those names since Peyton Manning retired,
and I think, can bo Nis be the stabilizing force?
Can he get multi years as a starter? Can he
just be solid? Forget about can he be a star?
Can he be solid? And this is for Sean Payton, Like,
this is a Sean Payton. It didn't work with Russell Wilson,
but that wasn't your guy. This is your hand picked
quarterback for your own new franchise. You have basic autonomy
(04:26):
in who you pick and what you want to do.
If you can't get this right, it just shows how
hard it is to get it right. But it's like
it's fascinating to me. I we want to do a
midway about all the big storylines in the NFL. When
I think Broncos, I don't care about anything other than quarterback,
anything other than quarterback, where Whereas I don't think that's
(04:52):
the storyline for most teams in the NFL. Some sure,
you know you're the Washington Commanders and you've been waiting.
I mean when Alex Smith was healthy before he shredded
his knee and had seventeen surgeries on or whatever. You
were in first place in the NFC East. We got hurt.
Your entire franchise fell apart. Ownership has changed. Now you
(05:13):
got some clown VP on some date where he's saying
negative things about the team and about the league. So
the Washington Commanders, they're about the quarterback. You got a
new coach, you got Cliff Kingsbury, You've got an E
league quarterback or talent at quarterback. It's about the quarterback.
The Denver Broncos, it's about the quarterback. But like for
(05:34):
the Chargers, I think it's just more about the little
things that the previous coaching staffs didn't do. And does
Justin Herbert fit this style for Lamar Jackson, for Dak Prescott,
for Brock Purty. None of this matters until you get
to the playoffs, anyway, it just doesn't. But I think
(05:54):
the Denver Broncos. When I hear Broncos, the only thing
that I think about is, well, I wonder if bo
Nicks is as good as I think he is or
hope he is. And I can only think of a
handful of teams where it's really that cut and dry
that it's about the quarterback. Even though most of these
teams are about the quarterback. I forget who said it yesterday, like, well,
(06:16):
you know, he's always he's not very good with the
back of the quarterback. Nobody's good with the back of
quarterback unless you fall into it, Tom Brady, unless you
fall into it, or you draft and develop a Jordan Love,
you know, or Jalen Hurts, you know, who develops over time. Generally, though,
you get to your backup quarterback, and that guy is
a backup for a reason, especially when you have a
big name starter. But I think, you know, for brock Perty,
(06:41):
it's what's the ceiling there? For Lamar Jackson, it's can
he do it in the playoffs? For the dever Broncos
is can they get competent quarterback play out of a Knicks?
And there's very few players where the bar is set
that low. But it's this interesting and they've created a
lot like Chicago Bears. They've created a pretty soft landing
spot for their rookie quarterback. Let's see if he can
(07:02):
take care of it. Let's see if he can take
advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
He may.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
He may not. He may he may not. But it
is interesting that the highest paid wide receivers make ten
million dollars plus more a year than the highest paid cornerbacks.
You could make the argument that an elite quarter cornerback
is as or more valuable to a team than elite
(07:28):
wide receiver, but the salaries haven't caught up. It's a
lot like a tight end to a wide receiver. Right
tight ends block cam block. Tight ends can make tough catches.
Tight ends also can volume. Mark Andrews can make volumes
of catches, but his numbers, no matter how highly paid he'spin,
has never gotten anywhere near that of the wide receiver market.
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(08:15):
ninety six million dollars a year deal. It is It
does a yearly average twenty four million, which is three
million more than jyr Alexander. That's set in the market.
That's changing the market. Uh, but it's still eleven million
dollars below out of Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
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certain signs a huge contract. I guess there's a little
baseball to talk about. But Wednesdays are the middle of
the week. It's a big week because Thursday football, Friday, football, Saturday,
lots of football, Sunday ton of football. Heck, we have
so many. Yes, football is unequivocally back. I mean, Baltimore,
(09:26):
Kansas City, Tomortnight is incredible. But middle of the week,
middle of the show, middle of the middle of the day.
Let's get to midway. He's not getting the middle with you.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's time for the middle.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The midway. Okay, so here's what we thought we'd do.
Let's do just the most intriguing storylines from NFL teams
heading into the season. You guys, okay with that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I want one intriguing story each the intriguing story for
each of us.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, well is your idea, So.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
You go, Aaron Rodgers. For those that didn't listen to
the Dan Patrick Show on Monday morning, Dan Byer and
I gave a book review to be honest, to be factual.
It's called the Dan and J. Stew Audio Book Review.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Your literation was impressive.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We'll be doing like Tolstoy, Warre and P's probably next,
so look for that. I'm going to say, Aaron Rodgers,
I'm most intrigued to follow his story after reading the book.
I'm a fan of the guy. I admit on this
air all the time. I think he's very interesting. I
(10:46):
think we lose sight of how interesting he is because
he says stuff that pisses people off. So this country
typically just dismisses you if you say something against the grain.
But he's a star in the biggest sport in the
country who says interesting things. All you have to do
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is watch The Quarterback on Netflix with Mahomes and Cousins
and Za Mariota. These guys are robots that have almost
no depth to them at all. They're freak athletes that
are good at their jobs, but they're not interesting. Aaron
Rodgers is and we should appreciate that. And I'm rooting
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for him this season. I want the Jets to go far.
If he were to win a Super Bowl, it might
be one of the greatest what do you call that?
Resurrection stories comeback stories, And I'm not just talking about
the injury. People have come back from injuries before, but
coming back from the persecution he received in the wake
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of the.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Dude, hold on, stop with the persecution. Isn't persecuted. It's
really strong, really strong. You can cheer for Aaron Rodgers
because he says what he wants and he's a unique thinker.
Please don't do that. He was persecuted.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Come on, buck, look up the definition of persecution. It
was a public stoning about the public.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
The act of mistreating a person because of their race, sex, ethicity,
sexu orientation status. Yeah, persecution is confiscation of property, incitement
of hatred, arrests, imprisonment, beating, torture, murder, executions. The guy
lied about being vaccinated and then tried to outsmart everybody.
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Be this that's not being persecuted. He wasn't suspended for
a game, was he.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'm not sure if he received any No, I know
he got COVID a couple of weeks AFO.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And here's another thing. Okay, we got to stop with
the all vacs, like the RFK all vaccinations are bad.
He's a quack. Okay, he just is. We can argue
whether or not the COVID vaccines should have been mandated
or what levels it should have been, and remembering which
presidency actually created and fast fast forwarded the vaccine, that's
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a fair discussion to have. But like, dude, really all vaccines? Yeah,
polio that really hasn't worked. Yes, it actually has smallpox,
et cetera. Like we go to crazy town over stuff.
He was not persecuted. Aaron Rodgers is super interesting. The
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jets are super interesting. I think anybody could happen on
the top four. Let's not do the persecuted thing. So
I was Sam.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Let's substitute the word persecution with the public stoning that
Aaron Rodgers received in the wake of the immunization point.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Cleaned it up and edit.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Okay, rody Dy Rodgers prefers his stoning to be in
private with ayahuasca. So I think this is pretty obvious here.
I don't even know where that joke went. Dan, your
thoughts A good joke to get us back on tracks.
You lighten it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Where was the snare drum?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
It was a good joke, so we didn't need it.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. This is gonna be fairly obvious
statement here. But I think two things, huge things that
are critical to the success to your success the NFL
are really good personnel and culture. Good culture that involves,
you know, a good coaching staff. I think that the
Detroit Lions have both of those things, and I'm curious
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about if they can sustain they can sustain their success
that they had last year. It's a team that hadn't
won a playoff game in more than three decades. And listen,
everybody's back, including their outstanding offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, and
Vegas is high on the Lions. I'm seeing, you know,
about ten and a half wins for their over under
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various sports books. So obviously there are expectations for the Lions,
and I think that two things that happened in the
offseason were really good for the Lions in terms of
like keeping the focus off of them and keeping them
as sort of the underdog role. Jordan Love's massive contract extension,
which obviously put more expectations on him, more pressure on
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him and the Packers to do really well in the
NFC North, and the Bears drafting Caleb Williams number one overall.
I think both of those things took the focus off
the Lions, which will help them to sustain their success
this year. And they're just going to be a hohum,
keep on keeping on, keep digging away. And I think
the Lions are just great for the NFL. I think
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their fans are great. I think that them being good
is a really good thing for the NFL. So I'm
curious if the Lions, I mean, did they really lose anybody.
Dan pretty much brought everybody, including Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson,
Jimi or Gibbs, Sam Laporta, I'm on Rossaint Brown golf.
I mean, they got an outstanding offense, the defense is
up and coming. I want to see if the Lions
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and their culture is healthy enough to sustain success for
the next few years.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I have so many things and I don't want to
go out. Maybe at to an end of it, I
can go ahead.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Yeah, I just I want to jump in on the
Lions portion of it because there are a few teams
in the NFL that we look like baseball. We were
so we were so wrapped into the Cubs and the
Red Sox trying to end their droughts.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
White Tux, what's pp White Sox two eight eight years?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Drink?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Sure? But I think that the curse of the Bambino
with the Red Sox and Billy Go with the Cubs,
all of that stuff played in and especially with the
heartbreak that the Red Sox had, and when that went away,
I think major League Baseball lost something. Same thing with
the Cubs, and the Lions haven't won an NFL title
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since nineteen fifty seven. Only the Arizona Carrs MC Cardinals
franchise have a longer drought. There's also the fact that they,
like the Browns, have never been in a Super Bowl.
So with the Lions, what I find is interesting is
if they go to the Super Bowl and lose, do
we find it a success because the Red Sox in
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where they were, the Red Sox were, you know, a
Bill Buckner grounder away we feel from winning a World
Series where like the Cubs drought, it's like, Okay, it's
been this long for this and this long for that.
Can they even get to a World Series? Then they
go and do it. Like I wonder if the Lions,
if they just make it to a super Bowl, if
that will be good enough for the season. I think so,
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Like I think that is the case with the Lions.
It would end one of those you know, of the
have nots of the NFL. That storyline would be pretty
much gone forever.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I think you're completely correct in you don't that one
does not have to win a Super Bowl get into
a super Bowl. It's like the Bengals couple years ago,
right where you're like the Bengals and super BA were
so bad for so now the Bengals weren't actually as
bad as the Lions. Bengals had that five consecutive beers
making the playoffs when Marvin was their coach, but still
it's more perception than reality. I'm having trouble pairing it down,
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but I will just stay close to home with my
my my favorite team, which has been the LA Chargers,
just Harbaugh's one everywhere. How long does this process take
and can the team get to the place that that
magical place where instead of expecting something to go wrong,
expecting something to go right and then something goes right.
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Like Notre Dame has had this in football for a
long time, and I know they haven't been great for
a long time, but what do you call it? Lucky?
The Irish? Whatever Oklahoma football has had, they call it
Sooner magic. Just good teams find a way to win games.
They just do, you know, they figure out whatever it
takes to win. And I got to tell you, like,
I'm intrigued by the Chargers because it's a weird Greg
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Roman's offense is a weird fit for the quarterback and
there is a part of me that wonders boy Jim Harborough.
I know he's won everywhere, but Chargers are hard and
the league has changed some. I'm just fascining to see
what the Chargers do this year. They how long, how
long he teaches him to win? He can teach them
to win.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They invested in the head coaching position and I know
that sounds disrespectful to Brandon Staley and yeah, yeah, and
you know Mike McCoy prior to that, but yeah, that
is that is what they did.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I think Keenan Allen, if you talk to him in
eight weeks, half halfway through the season or nine weeks,
whatever it is, if you go to Keenan Allen, say
do you regret because Keenan Allen pulled a leverage move
where he wouldn't wasn't willing to take less money and
Harbor I was like, okay, we'll trade you. I wonder
if you go to Keenan Allen the midway through the
season and say, do you regret what you did? I
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want everyone to remember this moment because I want we'll
see where the Bears are and we'll to where the
Chargers are. I really wanted Keenan Allen to be a
part of something great here because he paid his dues
on dog crop teams.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
The midway.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Dan, It's funny over the last twenty four hours there's
starting to be some rumblings everything was turning up gold
for the forty nine ers, and now I've seen some
stuff online where maybe the front office and ownership isn't
necessarily that excited on how John Lynch and the forty
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nine ers have dealt with some of these contract situations,
and that leads to the point of they gave in
to go all in on this season, and those things
can be scary when you come so close to a
Super Bowl, because yeah, you feel like you're so close.
And look at the Eagles last year. Look at what
ended up happening with them as they started out and
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the record looked right, but many said they don't look right,
and by the end of the year they did not
look right. And I just the forty nine ers like,
this is it. This is the last chance, the last
chance before Perty gets his deal, There're gonna be other
decisions that they're gonna have to make in the future.
I'm looking at a screen on the NFL network right
now where you have their four talking heads all picking
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the forty nine ers to win the NFC West. I
think a lot of people are picking them to win
the NFC. But if they don't, then it's that it's
over with. It's done with. And that is to me,
when you lose a Super Bowl at overtime to bounce
back and feel like we just need to run it back.
I don't know if that always works, and maybe it
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will for the forty nine ers, but we're already seeing rumblings.
Once Trent Williams returns to practice, AU gets his thirty
million dollar deal, everything seems to be back and great
that maybe things aren't great in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is the off season really?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know? Is that a quiet off season that we
haven't talked about that is dominated the NFL. You can't
see Chiefs. None of us mentioned it, and I know
you wanted won from each and I know it's boring,
but we're literally watching like in mid career, the greatest
career that's ever happened in the NFL. Right, the Chiefs
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aren't boring at all.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I said recently, I'm intrigued by those three people, Like,
how often in our lifetimes will we be able to
witness greatness? If they're in the playoffs end, it's late
and they're not playing the Chargers, I'm rooting four of
the Chiefs. I don't think a lot of people do that.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Did you, because Jason a month ago you said that
this is the most intriguing storyline of the season, So
did you take this opportunity just to get your Jets
take out there just to stir Doug's blood up because he.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Goes Aaron Rodgers spirit beef.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
There is because this was I used it on my
Sunday show and I gave Jason Stewart credit. I said,
Jayce dou said this to me a month ago, and
I poo pooed it on how intrigued you and how
fascinated he was in seeing the Chiefs try to go
for a three peat. And then I even did some
more research on it, and it's even more intriguing outside
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of the of just a three peat for the Kansas
City Chiefs at where they are. I told Kerry Rhodes
on my show on Sunday five eastern, two Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio, Yeah, that this is the teeter totter
to the Patriots. You win this season, You've gone back
to back to back, which no one has ever done
in the NFL in the Super Bowl era, no one's
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won three straight Super Bowls. You have now tipped it
where you are with four super bowls with Patrick Mahomes.
You're four with Andy Reid, who would need two away
to catch Belichick. Mahomes will be three away from Brady
with all of this now in reach, so maybe Andy
Reid's like, yeah, I'm gonna stay. If they win the
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Super Bowl, they win four games of the playoffs, Andy
Reid will be a game back of Bill Belichick for
the most playoff wins. Ever, Andy Reid also has an
opportunity to pass Bill Belichick if Belichick stays away for
most coach the regular season wins in an NFL career.
I think he's about thirty behind right now. So there's
a lot at stake for the Chiefs this year. And
if you win, you may think, well, way, what better
way to go out with a three peat? But I
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think that puts them so much closer to be becoming
that dominant franchise that would be so difficult to walk
away from. You don't do it this year. I still
think that Patriots and Brady and Belichick still kind of
out of reach a little bit. But you complete that
three peat and continue that momentum. Wowsa if you're the
Chief wowsa.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wowsa. There's so many good storylines. I mean, there's we
didn't get to Bengals, right, and I mean, you have
everybody loves Joe Burrow, but you know what happens with
that team. We didn't get to Baltimore to Miami to Pittsburgh.
Would they ever make a coaching change or just the
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whole Russell Wilson thing? Will that workout? So many good
storylines this year in the NFL. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
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The crown is yours. You asked about this story, and
I gotta be honest with you, Jay stew I don't
know what the deal is, but I can tell you
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that again, optics wise, it looks terrible. So here's the story.
Penny Hardaway. Today, today is September fourth. We start school
here at ed UB Green Bay today. So we've had meetings.
(26:02):
We are going to add a staff member. We potentially
have like I don't know, forty eight hours to add
if we want to add one more player. But it's
super super interesting what happened at Memphis today where they
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brought in eight new players. That's not all that new,
but today they fired four members of their staff. Rick Stansbury,
longtime head coach at Mississippi State and then Western Kentucky.
He's the old head on the staff. He was let go.
Froggy Phillips and Jamie Rosser were let go. So was
Demetrius Dyson, who's like a special advisor. You know, that's
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like a non benefits sort of position. But you get
five assistants, and three of them you fire when school's
already started. I just something's up there. I have no
idea what it is. You know, if it was one
guy and one incident, by all means, then you know,
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not that big a deal. The only thing potentially I
could see in terms of Penny taking back his program.
And I don't know any of this to be true,
but it's just the idea of Hey, whether there was
a coup or whether it was guys talking ish about
Penny or part of the staff and he just heard
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about it and got rid of all of them. But
I can't imagine even starting today, we have not started school.
When I get done with this show at four o'clock
Central time, we begin practice at four fifteen. I can't
imagine me like, Okay, we've already started. Now I got
to find four new assistant coaches. You can find them,
but just getting them all up and running that that
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is hard. Is there the chance there that there's something
in terms of academics and getting guys eligible that they
found found out and anybody involved is gone. Sure? That
seems most logical, right, It seems most logical because here's
here's what happens. And you have to be very very
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purposeful about what you say to your staff. You know.
It's like I have coaches. Each coach is assigned to
a player, not one player, to several. They have like
four players, right, and of those guys like academics that
I just don't have the time to be looking at
each of their classes. They do. They got four guys.
They look through all four guys classes every day or whatever.
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And many of these players take mostly if not all,
online classes. But you can't. That laptop has to be
in the hands of the player. They can ask you questions,
you can give them, and of course you got to
have academic people. But to me, there's only two possibilities.
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One is the outs very outside chance that there was
a coup. I don't think that took place. Rick Stansbury
knows the deal. I don't see that happening. The more
likely thing is something in regards to academics and NCAA compliance,
and I don't think it has anything to do with money.
And guys got caught up in the wash. I saw
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this or I heard this, and I thought it was
really interesting, really really interesting. It's Brandon Ayuke talking about
he making it a mission. I think it's interesting. I
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Speaker 7 (29:51):
I think I'm not gonna lie I made a little
bit more difficult than it needed to at the end,
But yeah, it was. I mean it was like that
from I'm not gonna say the whole entire time but uh,
for about the past month, I think we're we're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah. So look, this is I talk about this. I
use real estate as the analogy called chasing the market.
And I think most of us know somebody in our
neighborhood is chased the market, especially right now, like home sales.
They the rates of drop schools back in sessions. So
home sales, it hasn't been a great year or so,
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and relatively it's kind of a flat time of year, right,
but there'll be somebody who, you know, the Smiths down
the street sold their house for one hundred grand over asking.
You know, they got seven eighty for a house that
they had the market for six eighty. And it was
a bit of a bidding war. And Jim comes home
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and he tells Margaret, Margaret, we're selling the house. The
Smiths sold theirs for seven eighty. Ours has got a
nicer pool to sell our house. Mark's like, I don't know, Jim,
I don't know. It's a weird time of year. School's
already in session. Margaret, I got this, rates have dropped,
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we have the comps, we move the house. We'll go
and you can do your magic to another house. Right,
But what happens is if you put your house on
the mark for too much money, and then it sits
and sits and sits, and then you lower the price
to the price it should have been to begin with. Well,
somebody looks sen, It's like, why has the houseman house
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been on the market for three four months? What do
I not know that somebody else knows? And you end
up selling it for far less than you ever wanted
to because you chase the market from putting in a
position too high. I didn't think I you chased it
that much, but you listen to him, and he did say, basically, hey,
we came on too strong from the start. Let's welcome in.
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Daniel Jeremiah DJ joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio Live atthtyreck dot com studios.
They get Trent Williams, they get Brandon Ayuk one last
year of brock perty at this very very reasonable rate
at quarterback. What are your thoughts on the Niners likely
that of getting back to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Well, I think they're obviously all in right now and
it's and I want to say now or never, because
they're not going anywhere. But I do think there are
some key players on this team that you could start
seeing a little bit of decline. And I think they'd
smart by Trent Williams, who's you know, he's played great,
but at his age, you know that at some point
in time that's going to start to slow down a
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little bit. So, you know, I kind of think that's
good agent things and smart on his on his behalf
to get the new deal done. But I just look
at it as we start the season, Doug, and I'm
looking at them, and I'm looking at the NFC, and
I know everybody's kind of talked about them as the
overwhelming favorite. I just I go back to the game
that they played against the Lions, which the Lions had
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a great opportunity to win, and I look at the
age of the key players on that team versus some
of the players on the Niners, and I feel like
the Lions are going to be better and I feel
like the Niners are trying to hold serve here. So
I'm leaning towards the Lions in the NFC this year.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, what are the Lions missing in your mind?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Pull The secondary was the you know, major issue for
them last year, so they go out and they draft
Terry and Arnold, they draft Innis Rake Straw, they get
two really young talented corners. They make a trade. Oh gosh,
Jamel Dean comes in. So they've they've done things to
try and to try and upgrade that secondary. Now we
got to wait and see it, see how it all
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comes together. But they've they were aggressive and attacking their
greatest weakness and offensively. I think one of the biggest
storylines that maybe never gets discussed was if I would
have told you at the end of the year, after
the way the Lions offense played, and told you the
number of head coaching jobs that were open that the
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Lions are going to be able to retain Ben Johnson
as their offensive coordinator. That was huge, absolutely huge for them.
And by the way, Carlton Davis, not Jamel Deane, a
former Bucks corner, got the wrong one.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, no, it happens. It happens. I mean, you have
a thousand names in your head. Every once in a while,
you're going to get one first name wrong. That does happen.
Daniel Jeremiah joining us. It's interesting. We're talking about Patrick
Sertain's contract and it's great. He's tell tremendous players, son
of a pro, all that stuff. But it's like Denver Broncos,
their season, their future, everything really rests on what they
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figured out the quarterback STIs now.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
No, I think that's accurate. You know, it's at the
end of the day, we can go through and preview
all these teams and talk about hopes and dreams and
rosters and offensive line and defensive line. I don't want
to oversimplify it, but you know, it's hard for me
to envision the Broncos having a really good year without
Votnix having a really good year. And I mean, I
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think those fortunes are directly tied to one another. I
do support. I'd love to get your take on this, dug,
because you look at things from an outside perspective and
just an overall sports perspective. One of the things, and
maybe it came out a little bit with the Brian
Flores to us stuff, but I've always felt with young players,
I don't know that you can pump enough confidence into
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them like that car runs on confidence. So when I
see I think Caleb Williams was named the starter, sorry
was named the captain. Bo Nix was named the captain. Like,
I've never understood the reluctance to praise young players when
it feels like to me, man, the confidence is so fragile,
to just pump them full of it, I think is
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a good move.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well, it's interesting you bring it up. I do think
that while confidence has always been an issue for all athletes,
I think it's an even bigger issue now, right, Like,
we've all guys have insecurities, but now when everything is public,
from who you're dating, what you're driving, how much you
make everything, everybody knows everything. There's some have little imposter syndrome,
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some just have jealousy. Whatever it is. There's all kinds
of insecurities out there. So yeah, why don't they do
it more well? Because again it's the fight between old
and new school. Make him earn it before you give
him praise. You can't have a rookie be a captain.
I'd give it to an old veteran, etcetera, etcetera. It's
trying to get out of the way of the old ways.
Would be my best guss.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Yeah, I think the other thing I would you know
that I always pay attention to is you know, press conferences,
postgame comments from coaches on young quarterbacks, And I've just
to me's there's time for criticism, and I'm taking that
behind closed doors with the young guys. And there's ways
to kind of, you know, hey, we'll hold them accountable
in front of the team and do those things. But
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I've never understood and it doesn't happen a lot, but
there are examples of guys of coaches who are kind of,
you know, somewhat hyper critical of young players. Right after
a game, I'm going like, do you know how fragile
this is with these guys? Like this is not the
way to go.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
No, not the way to go in in any way.
I actually, can I ask you a question? Now? Can
I ask you? This is okay? So in I know,
but it's a non football more just kind of gauging
your thoughts because again, you're outside of the the box
of who I normally ask. So I have media. We
have Horizon League Media Day in two weeks, fourteen days, yeah, exactly,
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September eighteenth in Indianapolis. And I have how many new
guys I have? I have four I have like counting
walk ons, I have fourteen new guys. So I got
a lot of guys to choose from. Now I have
two returners that are really good, solid kids. Man. They
represent everything you'd want in any university, and they're gonna play.
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They're good players. But part of me wants to give
that experience to at least one of the younger guys,
not just because he's one that I brought in and
I recruited, but just kind of a different perspective, different voice,
different representation. How much do you think that matters in
the locker room, like who I picked to go to
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media day?
Speaker 8 (38:15):
Well, I think it matters today more than it would
have when we were growing up and playing. But I
think I think as long as you articulate the reasons
for whoever you choose, I think you'll be okay. I
think the times where that gets off the rails and
maybe gets a little squirrely is when everybody in the
team just kind of finds out who you're taking to
that thing and nobody had any explanation for it, you know.
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I think that's when you get the back talk, you know,
or people talking and close corners, and that's the last
thing you want. So I think as long as you're hey, guys,
this is not this, this is just what it is,
don't make it more than it is. But I'm taking
this player in this player. I'm taking this player because
of what he's meant to this program in the past
and his leadership. And I'm taking this player because I
want to take somebody from this group of all you
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young guys that have come in here and and give
you as a voice for what we're trying to do here.
So I think as long as you communicate that, I
think you're good.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Daniel Jeremiah joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Let me ask you about a
couple of these other teams. Let's talk Packers. Okay, I
think Look, Jordan Love was way better than anybody thought
he would be last year. There were some moments you're like, Okay,
now they give him a gigantic contract, and of course
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with that comes gigantic expectations. Still a relatively young football team,
and as you mentioned, they got the lines in this division.
Bear's got to be better offensively. We'll see on the Vikings.
You know you and I are both big Sam Donald guys.
Will the performance meet the expectations for Jordan Love?
Speaker 8 (39:49):
I'm curious on them. I think a lot of people
have made some assumptions that growth is linear for players
and for teams. So you know, look, I just made
that statement about the Lions and how they have all
these young talented players and I think they're just on
the ascension, but they have a quarterback who's a little
more seasoned and a little more weathered. So I don't
(40:12):
think with all quarterbacks. I mean, we've seen it, like
Josh Allen's a great example of you know, we've seen
you know, he's an amazing player, but there's been some
dips along the along the journey, and I don't think
that I don't think it's reasonable to expect that Jordan
Love is going to be on this steady upward trajectory.
I think there'll be some bumps along the road. I'm
with them. I'm almost more curious to see how the
(40:35):
you know, we're just gonna spread the ball around. They
have all these you know, really really good B level
receivers that you know, eventually somebody's going to want to
be the alpha of that group. A. Who's that going
to be? And B how does that? How does that
shake out with the rest of the room.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It's the Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
so I'm told that Jay S, do you have some
some research on the Padres for DJ.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, I went to work while you guys chatted about football.
I went to work. I promised Daniel that I would
do this because I'm you know, I'm that guy. Fernando
Tatis had his big return to the Padres lineup yesterday,
and I know Padre fans are excited. I have a
feeling Daniel is, but I just want to be the
guy that offers a little balance in this moment. The
(41:28):
record of the Padres this year when Tattoos is in
the lineup is five hundred. Remember when the Padres almost
went to the World Series in twenty twenty two. That
just happened to be the year that Fernando Tatis was
suspended for the entire season. He returned last year and
they went eighty two and eighty. So what does that
(41:51):
tell a Dodger fan about Fernando Tatusa's return to the lineup.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
It's a great it's a great point, and it's one
that if it's a very surface level conversation, you can
probably get away with that argument. But let's add some
facts onto this Let's start first of all, at twenty
twenty two. Fernando did not play in twenty two. Thet
he played the year before in twenty one, they weren't
as good. You know who wasn't there in twenty one,
a guy by the name of one Soto who came
(42:17):
over halfway to the year. There, So you have Manny
Machado has a monster year. One Sodo is in the mix.
He has a monster year.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Then you look.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
At you know, last year, the most unlucky team in baseball,
and that the metrics were ridiculous just in terms of
how unlucky they were, one one run games, all that crap.
Let's get to this year. Jay stew Manny Machado, who
has off season elbow surgery. He starts off the year.
The first month he hit two seventeen. The second month
he hit twoin fifty eight. Then he hit two thirty.
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Those are his first three months. Now the elbow's healthy,
and that coincides with when Tatieth is gone. He hits
three thirty three. Then he comes back, he hits a
zillion home runs six home runs. In the next month,
he's hitting three zho two with seven home runs in
this in July. I mean, the guy's been on fire.
So now we get to add Tatis to a healthy machado.
(43:08):
And that's why all my Dodgers fans are scared to
death about that five game series. We're fixing the.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Half here in a month or so, Dodger fan reaction.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I'm going to respond with a phrase that Adam Carolla
once said over the earth. This guarantees me a tie? Right,
you guys ready for it?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm ready?
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah? But still, what's the.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Season series between those two teams this year? The curious
I forget yep, yeah, we already, we already cuinched that
we still have three more.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
With you, guys, I ask you this all summer long,
and now we've had a chance. You've had a chance
to call people. Give me somebody that we should be
paying attention to as a team, like they're pretty damn good.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
Ooh, well, I mean there is. This is the conversation
that I have every years. I call around to people
during roster cuts. Yep, and I'd say, who had the
toughest decisions and who cut the best players?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Sure, because that means they that means they have good
players that they had to make our decision it was
the Jets.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
Doug, the Jets. They everybody I talked to you, they
had several they had a couple of corners get claimed.
Their defensive line is stacked. Like defensively, they are absolutely loaded.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Now they're the mL of that defense is really talented.
But they take a lot of chances. Now, maybe they
took a lot of chances because who their quarterback was
last year, but it was there was some a lack
of discipline, was was what I had heard.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Yeah, I think they can rush for even without his
sound Radick, and hopefully that eventually gets figured out. But
even without him, I think they can rush for. They
can smother you in the secondary. But they just gave
their nickelback ten million dollars a year, Michael Carter, because
he's one of those people, not many one of those
guys not many people are aware of. But it's probably
the best nickel in the league. They're absolutely loaded on defense.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Hmm, Okay, give me somebody. Everybody's talking about who they're
not that good. I have one. It's pretty obvious, but
give me to give you one.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
Hears everybody's talking about that's not that good. Yeah, well,
everybody still I know a lot of there's still some
skepticism about the Bears from people that I talk to
just about you know, how good is the offensive line?
Love the skill, but the offensive line is still a
little bit of a question mark there.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I was gonna go with with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
Yeah, their offensive line is beat up too, and we
don't know what we're going to get a quarterback, so
it's fair.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And when you don't know who you're going to get
a quarterback and the offensive line is beat up, that's
a problem. That's that's a problem. That's a problem. DJ.
You ready for the Bolts?
Speaker 8 (45:48):
Oh dude, I cannot wait picked up my chart today
to call this game on Sunday, Chargers Raiders. It's gonna
be I mean, this is the most anticipated Charger opener
I can remember, just because of you know, Harbaugh's presence,
and nobody knows exactly what this is going to look
like and I can't wait for it to get here.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
And of course having Tom Telesco, a mutual friend of ours,
who is the former general manager of the Chargers, being
the general manager of the Raiders makes it makes it
weird as an understatement, like general managers, don't you jont
get another gentle manager job. Let alone the next year,
let alone with the arch rival of the other team.
That's that's crazy. DJ, you're the best. Appreciate joining us.
Speaker 8 (46:27):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
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