September 5, 2024 • 35 mins
Doug and the crew talk about NFL teams that are heavily favored this season that might drop off the cliff. Doug welcomes professional sports bettor Bill Krackomberger onto the show to talk about the NFL wagering for week one of the season. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a Thursday edition of "The Press".
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Uh. He joined us twenty five after the hour. This
hour will we'll we'll.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Have it just like an open talk about Kansas City, Baltimore,
the what do you call it? The zuur Rupa Complex
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Ropa zu ropa phase.
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
Here's what I want to do. Okay. We do a
lot of kind of like in group.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
To talk on the show, right, not as much ensemble
stuff as some shows, more than other shows. But I
do value all of our opinions because we look at
different things and have different reasons and logic behind it.
So if we go back to last year as an example, right,
the Jets were a team that everybody kind of wondered about.
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There were some other teams as well, and you know,
I think there were higher hopes for the for the Steelers,
then they end up end up playing out. The Giants
were obviously a massive disappointment after missing the playoffs here
before the Eagles fell apart, the Lions were surprised. The
Vikings were doing well until Kirk Cousins got hurt. The
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Bears most people thought would be bad. The Panthers were
way worse than anybody could have thought. The NFC West
was about on par with what people thought, and the
AFC East.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It was about like.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The Jets were better considering they have their quarterback, better
than you could have thought. I think the Bengals because
of injury that held them back, but they still had
a chance to win in the playoffs. And of course
the Colts, whatever you thought of them, you didn't think
that Gardner Minshew would be their quarterback, and yet they
still had a good, solid year with them.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The Titans, on the other hand, fired their head coach,
which was a head scratch to me.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The point is every year there's a team that we
think is going to be good that for whatever reason,
usually injuries, sometimes dysfunction, falls off the radar. It's like
your favorite team that you know is going to fail.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Dan Byer, you got.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
One, go yeah, Doug, And I think when you look
at this, you could take the top ten in the NFL.
But when you really go ten, eleven, twelve deep, you're
getting into that Cowboys sort of range, and I would
rather just go top top. You know, the two teams
tonight I have the Lions in the Super Bowl so
it's not going to be them. But I do think
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that the off season of the San Francisco forty nine
ers is very intriguing in that, you know, Brandon Nyuk
is saying that he let this drag out a little
bit longer. So then where's Brandon Nyuk's real interest? Is
it in the money? Is in the Super Bowl? Do
you just not want to be at training camp? You know,
Trent Williams is back with the team. I felt like
him sitting out wasn't that huge deal. But as I
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mentioned yesterday, there were some social media blurbs coming out
of saying, you know what, ownership maybe isn't really too
keen on where the forty nine ers are set up
and putting all of their eggs in one basket. And
I still to your point, Doug, that we've done this
exercise on the show of who would you take over
Brock party? It's not a question of is brock Purty great,
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It's just a question of, all right, where is he
truly when we're talking about quarterbacks. So in saying all
of that, and with a roster that is the seventh
oldest in the National Football League, I think that you
could see that dip with the San Francisco forty nine ers,
and maybe my biggest evidence is just the Super Bowl
hangover of what happens when you lose in overtime. But
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I'm going with San Francisco as the team that I
think could could fall off because of just of what's
transpired over the last seven months or so.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
All Right, solid, solid thoughts and dissertation.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
If that happens. If the forty nine ers do fall off,
and god forbid that I don't like make the playoffs, right,
doesn't the brock party conversation completely change because right now
it's let's try to win now with him under that
salary because we're gonna have to pay him after the season.
But if they all off, don't you just start thinking
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about other options at quarterback at that point, or maybe
even drafting another quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't think there's any question you think about it.
You definitely think about it. But the only the problem
with drafting one is, man, you got to hit it right. Man,
You got to have a good supporting cast. And you know,
it's the same thing that Jerry's thinking, like, we're this close.
All we got to do is not play bad in
one important game. All right, let me get to Jay
stew give me your team that you feel like is
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most likely to drop off the map off the map.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I mentioned it yesterday. I don't know if this is
a top layer team that Dan just laid out. But
remember a year ago, nobody was talking about the Rams.
We had gone to training camp and even the Rams
officials were like, we have no idea what's going to
happen with this team?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
They had zero idea, and.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
They played really well, surprised everybody, and had a couple
of fantasy players that everyone adored, and it was a
real feel good season. And for the most part, I
think Matthew Stafford was on the field. He stayed healthy,
and that's a big key. I heard Greg Cosell today
say that Matthew Stafford is the best quarterback in the NFC,
and he said it matter of factly, like there was
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no discussion, like wow, that's that's quite a proclamation. The
problem is he's such a glass Joe. And I do
think that the Rams are kind of that team that
everyone is choosing this year as a team that's gonna
be good. And for whatever reason, my gut tells me
that Stafford is going to struggle to stay healthy, and
(06:35):
I think at that point everything goes downhill. As we
discussed yesterday, I guess Jimmy G is their backup. I
remember last year he almost got DeVante Adams killed on
the football field a couple times. So I don't know
if I would rely on Jimmy G if that's the case,
But the Rams are my pick for a team that
could easily kind of fall off the cliff is share.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
And remember, Jimmy G's not available because of his pe
D suspension.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That's why, Well that's what I said.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Jimmy's just not even available for the first two games.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, just just a little bit more on the Rams
as well, because we touched on this yesterday. They are
shuffling their offensive line on the season without Aaron Donald.
On defense, I mean, I mean, it's it's much more.
It feels like they're losing like three players on the
defensive line without Aaron Donald, like truly, like you're losing
Aaron Donald. Then you're losing the guy that you would
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normally double team, and then you're also us losing the
guy that you would probably triple team if you could.
So so losing Aaron Donald is a big deal. Darius Williams,
a cornerback, was just placed on injured reserve, So you're
coming in shorthanded on defense. And for as much as
Puka Akua emerged, you know, last season, and you have
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Cooper Cups now thirty one, a red zone threat for them. Yeah,
I have I have some questions about the Rams.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I think you have legitimate questions. Brooms. I thought they
could be a surprise team.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And then Jase two things the opposite of them. I Sam,
do you have a team you think of fall?
Speaker 8 (08:09):
If I had to pick a team, I guess this
is a tough one for me. I guess I'd go
with the Eagles for a number of reasons. They had
that you know that really lackadaisical end to their finish
last season where they were ten to one, they ended
up finishing I think like eleven and six or you know,
something like that. And you know, Jason Kelsey has retired,
Jalen Hurts has been banged up through his you know
(08:31):
time in the NFL. You know, you never know if
he could suffer an injury. Fans are a little frustrated
with Nick Sirianni. They are in year two of both
their I believe if correct me if I'm wrong here, guys,
their offensive and defensive coordinators are going to their second
year after that. Great weren't they all like hired away?
Weren't they?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
The Eagles are called new coordinators on both sides of
the ball. Okay, so okay, so yes, Hell and Fangio. Okay,
So yeah, there there you go.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
So who knows if those schemes will translate. I'll go
with the Eagles as my pick. They could fall off.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Kellen Moore, by the way, I two years ago or
maybe three years ago, wasn't he like the the next
the head coach in waiting?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
In Dallas.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yes, I thought they should have fired McCarthy after the
first year and hired him. Yes, just so you wouldn't leave.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It could turn out that the Cowboys and Jerry Jones,
who he spoke about earlier in the show, maybe they
were right about Kellen Moore. I mean that season lasher
was a disaster. You can't really blame him completely because
Herbert was was banged up.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But if he doesn't do any great before he was
banged up.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Herbert didn't he like lose a lung or something.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, no, yeah, but he broke a finger, right, he
just a finger.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The lung was lost as well, but they weren't They
weren't killing it. The offense was kind of clunky anyway,
to be honest.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Can I just clarify something? So after the Eagles Super
Bowl run, didn't they get both their offensive court coordinated defense?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
They were tired away, right, Jonathan Gannon went to the
Cardinals Shane Stick and went.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
And then so then they had one year under the
new guys, then they were fired.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Yeah, Brian Johnson was did you watch their offense last year?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
No?
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Yeah, no, I mean listen, they were ten and one
then they fell off the map.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
So that was part of the disconnect on offense, was
was Brian Johnson, Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
So they're starting over again with new COROC and DC.
So yeah, so who knows? They're unstable right now?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think, yeah, okay, I'm gonna give mine and this one.
I don't think it's going to happen, but I think
it very much could happen because they've been sitting there
teetering on getting too a Super Bowl for the last
couple of years and that's all of our expectations.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But what about the Buffalo Bills, right, mm hmm. You know, like.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Two of their top wide receivers gone from last year.
The defense isn't as good as it used to be,
they never really figured out the running game. Still Josh
Allen running the football, and that division is really really good,
really good. Granted, I don't think the Patriots are particularly good,
but I do think the Jets are good, and I
do think the Dolphins are good. And the Bills they
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just are very dependent upon Josh Allen and when he's
been great, they're great. When he's just below average, they're
below average.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yes, and I think it's a good pick. I feel
it's going to be auditioned by some subtraction without stuff
on Diggs there. But to your point, Doug, something I
mentioned earlier, Bills are also the oldest team in the NFL.
And there was a story that surfaced yesterday that was
an unbelievable feel good story yesterday, I believe it was yesterday.
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DeMar Hamlin going to make his first start since suffering
cardiac arrest this week against the Cardinals. That is awesome.
But if we're sitting here talking football, Damar Hamlin was
available Week one of last year and was inactive. So
what you're saying is is you had a guy who
played sparingly last year and you actually had every reason
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to play him because of the story that he was,
but you deemed him not good enough. Now you are
starting him at free safety for the season. So what
does that say about your safety position?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Right?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Like, if Damar Hamlin, if you would have started last
year in Week one, what an amazing story after what
we had seen transpire a year and a half ago.
But he didn't, and he was inactive for a lot
of games. I don't know, he played in like five
games last year maybe give or take. But now he's
going to be starting for them, and we get wrapped
up in the great story of it. But if you're
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a Bills fan, last year, Sean McDermott and that defense
kind of determined you know what, DeMar's not even good
enough to be active on game days. Now he's going
to be starting on the secondary.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That one strikes me as odd as well.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, there's a lot their wide receiving corps. They drafted
Kean Coleman in the second round, but I mean it's
Mac Collins, Curtis, Samuel, and Khalil Shakirque. He's the one
with the rapport with with Alan Kincage should have a
huge year. But yeah, there are questions with Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Was Buffalo half of Motown to Showtown Snowtown? It was
half of Motown to Snowtown last hour, Showtown would be
the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I always think, right, well, Snowtown is also the Raiders
because of Vegas and cocaine. But that's completely different.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
I was just thinking, doesn't really snow much in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I thought cocaine's more Miami.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
That could be as well. If you want to do that,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Have you guys ever seen cocaine in person?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Not me. I know I know Sam every night.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
I've never I'm being completely honest here, I've never done
cocaine in my life. I think I've seen it before
at a party you saw a time ago. Yeah, I
saw it, But why does that.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Mean party with you?
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Just I just I'm just interested white powder.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
There was somebody somebody's trying to tell me.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
It's like, yeah, I was at this party and everybody's
doing cocaine, But I don't do coke.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Like Okay, I swear I've never done it. Iird enough,
I don't need to be extra wired.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm not attacking you.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
I'm just to put that on the record.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But like, was it like a pile of cocon It
was notable and somebody's cutting it up.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
It was not scarface. It was like residue sitting there.
This is like when I went to go visit my
sister and she took names. Yeah, named a sister. No,
she took me to a party. I was in high school.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Cocaine, that's responsible.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
It was just it was just it was an IVY
League party.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So I was there. It was no crack, real cocaine.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Did you tie the sweater around your neck?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
No? No, no, none of that.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
No, just visiting and it just happened to be there.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I am curious of what Jason Stewart was saying before
we got on the cocaine train.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
What were you saying, Jason?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You saying Snowtown Motown to Snowtown. Bear with me on
this one. So you know, Friday's game is going to
be on a streaming app in Brazil.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And it's Motown versus No Town. Yep.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Dan said yesterday that they need to do a game
in Alaska, and you know he's kind of making fun
of why not just go to Alaska. I'm going to
take a couple of things. I'm going to take that
a step further. I'm not going to be a one
up guy like Sam. I'm just going to take it
a step further. It's an additional creative piece. How about
Motown to Snowtown at the North Pole on Christmas and
(15:26):
it could be on the Hallmark streaming out. Okay, Motown
to Snowtown definitely not a one up, of course not.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
My whole point was, you know there are people in
Alaska that will never see an NFL game. Why not
do it up right there, right, make it, make it
a big deal. You're going to Brazil, and I know
why they aren't because there's not as much money there,
But that would be better to me play a game
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out there.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I think, what about what about if I found a
happy medium? You know they play some of these preseason
games in college stadiums. What if they played like one
NFL game in a college stadium per year. There's plenty
of places that don't have NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
They go crazy for it.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I no offense to Alaska, but they really have nothing.
So I feel like if you're like an LSU fan
and when the Saints had a play in Baton Rouge,
it just didn't have that same feel. I mean, are
you saying like they should go to a lot.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Or something like? Sure, maybe those fans pick out I.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Mean, I mean would be incredible, sell out, pick out
the you know there's six sixteen best sites, non NFL
sites that don't have go to states, states or areas
that don't have an NFL team. Right, Why can't the
Texans play at Daryl Royal Stadium? You know they at
der Royal Stadium at the University of Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, that would be cool.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
If you had a rivalry with the Cowboys that you could,
you know, make it your own Red River rival.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That would be amazing. NFL and play there.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Every year you play it there, that would be unique.
That would be something different. I don't know if I
would love it, but I would. I would definitely appreciate
the effort of the NFL doing something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I've often thought they should change the divisions and get
you know, get Baltimore in and Washington in the same division,
et cetera. Et cetera, Jets and the Giants the same division.
I still think that's the way. The problem is the
NFC East is so historic and people just struggle to
get away.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well yeah, well that's you want to talk about bending
over backwards for the Cowboys. There's no reason for the
Cowboys to be in the NFC East. But there's every
reason for the Cowboys to be in the NFC East.
When they didn't realignment, it made no sense. Yeah, zero sense.
But because of the Cowboys they get Yeah, they get
that aspect. They could just play with the extra game.
You could have played all these rivalries. You know, my
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
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Speaker 3 (18:40):
Tonight, we got Thursday Night football. Okay, Thursday Night football.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's right, We've made it.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Lamar Jackson, quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens against Pat Mahomes,
defending Super Bowl champion quarterback of the Kansasity Chiefs. Jackson's
one of four against Mahomes, which is tied for the
fifth most lopsided rivalry in the NFL between NFL Award
winning MVP Award winning quarterbacks and played at least five times.
Other than Mahomes, no quarterback has has beaten Jackson more
(19:16):
than twice.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Last year, the Chiefs held Jackson a ten points or
less for just a fourth time in his eighty three
game career. So Lamar Jackson may be great now, but
we know that his struggles have been in the playoffs,
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much for joining us. What do you think about tonight's line?
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Hey, Doug, great, great to hear from you. And tonight's wine.
You know it's funny. I'm in Vegas here, just came
to a quiet area of a casino. I actually bet
a little bit under forty seven because that seems to
be the trend with these prime time football games. I'm
not really a trend guy. I don't go back many years,
but I just think last year was a really good factor,
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deciding factor for me to put a little bit on
the under here. I also here in Vegas at Kansas
City minus two and a half a few weeks back.
Not as strong of a play as it once was
that thick in the game was going to go to three.
Everyone bet in the Super Bowl champion. But there's a
lot of respect out there for Jackson and Baltimore. So
this is tons of two way actions. A matter of fact,
(20:34):
the casino I'm in wrote a two hundred thousand dollars
ticket on Baltimore. They went from three to two and
a half. Where they sit right now, they're probably the
only two and a half in the country that has
minus two and a half minus a dollars ten. Everything
else is minus fifteen, minus twenty or three. So I'm
waiting for them to go back to the three. I'm
surprised they didn't yet. They take a lot of volume here,
(20:54):
so they wrote to the two hundred thousand. Jimmy Viccaro,
big famous bookmaker here in Vegas, posted the ticket on
Twitter about six seven weeks ago, and yeah, so we
got a lot of two way action on this game.
If anything, No, I lean more towards the under there's
still a couple of forty seven's out there around the
country and here in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I agree, Bill, there is there is some some
meat seal on that bone. Okay, let's let's go around
the league a little bit. First, Okay, so you gave
us what you thought of tomorrow night. What about Brazil?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
How do we get it?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
There's so much unknown with the Eagles right new offense.
Granted they started hot the last two years. We don't
know what Aaron Rodgers gonna look like. We haven't seen
him in the preseason. So much unknown, unknown setting. You know,
Peacock's host of the game. It's just weird.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What's your lean for that game?
Speaker 7 (21:44):
I don't like that this game is not being played here.
I understand they have a couple of games in England
throughout the year, or some don't. Brazil, I mean, the
team's both got notices not to go outside their hotel rooms.
So it's just not a good atmosphere for them, Sam Pots.
But if anything, in this game, green Bay is getting
a lot of respect this year with their fifty two
(22:05):
million dollars manunder the helm. We know Rogers has had
no reps here in preseason, but he's you know, all
time veteran, future Hall of Famer. You know, if anything,
I would probably throw Green Bay in a teaser here,
taking them up through the key numbers of three and seven,
taking them up to all the lines two two and
a half, taking them up to eight and a half.
You want to get past the eight. Even now with
(22:28):
analytics being in the game, where these teams go for two,
a lot, miss extra points, a lot of things, I
would probably take that Green Bay up up to the
eight and a half and listen, it's going to seem
like public everyone's on the same thing here. All I
want Cincinnati is to win the game. So I'm gonna
take Cincinnati down to minus one one and a half
and just let them win the game versus New England,
(22:49):
which sounds like it's going to be so easy to do.
But don't think New England won't, you know, give them
a game. They don'tant. They don't want to embarrassed here.
But I do like Cincinnati in that game. Win the teeser.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Do you have a team that you kind of have
a secret? Bill Krachenberger, crush on. I think this team
is good before the rest of the world catches up
on it.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
You know, my allegiance is my bank roll. I don't
care about these guys. They don't care about me. Off
the field. It's every week I could bet against someone,
I bet on someone I'll give you my anti team,
and living here in Las Vegas, it's not very popular.
I am anti Las Vegas this year. I'm under seven wins,
under seven and a half wins, late a dollar fifty.
I don't think they're going to have a good season.
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Raiders under for season wins. So if I'm not giving
you a team I love this year, but I'm giving
you a team I'm against this year would be the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I mean, I do think that Garner Minshew gives them
a better chance, but they're still waiting on a quarterback.
There's so many holes that roster. It has been put
together by so many different people. I love to LESCo
and he's a very good drafter, but I and I
know they're in the market for a quarterbacks. I just
I don't love it. I don't love it either. Your
biggest lean of the Sunday Slate is what I tell you.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I'm on a couple Usually I'm not on so many sides.
I am on some sides here though, I like Jacksonville
with three and a half about three three or four
sportsbooks have that here in town versus Miami taking the hook.
I just think that hook can be the difference in
that type of game. I don't know if I'm so
high on Miami this year. You know that division is
going to be a tough division. It's almost like Yazi,
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anyone can win it. But then again, I'm anti Buffalo
for the year. I like season wins under on Buffalo
who's going to win the division? And Miami the Jets.
I'm not really high on the Jets either. I need
to see Rogers. I need to Sae in action to
see if he aged this past year. So, but I
am on Jacksonville bus to three and a half there also, listen,
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the most popular team here, millions and millions of dollars
in risk in this town. Every single book maker in
town has told me they are anti Houston because the
public loves Houston this year. They love the quarterback, they
love the team. Everyone's high on Houston, so of course
I want to be on the book side. I am
taking Indianapolis. I took them already here where I'm at
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at the South Point. I took them plus three earlier,
So Indianapolis plus three home dog. You know again, this
is really a bet against Houston in the public. This
game opened up at one went to three. So again
my players are going to be ugly plays throughout the year.
That's why I'm going to be on the bookmaker side.
I'll give you something I didn't bet yet, Doug, and
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for your people at home here and listening, everyone listening, driving,
I am gonna go Monday night and stick with that
Monday night home. I'm sorry, Primetime game under. So I'm
gonna go Monday night. San Fran and the Jets, I'm
going to go under forty four have not bet it yet.
Forty fours are everywhere. Jets San Fran. I don't think
they're going to come out Monday and have an offensive power.
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As you can see, I'm kind of anti Jets this year,
but you know what, I'm anti san France too. I
don't think they're gonna win twelve games, and that's their
season win total. So I just don't see them winning
twelve games this year. I think the offense is that
Jet defense is very good. I just think that under
forty four. So I give you guys a bunch of
plays this week. Everyone, get your bank rolls ready, crack.
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Let's start up to during Dan Byer, you'll get all
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all the topics of the day. We'll discuss them all
and as we get in in the press.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
The press, what do you got, Dan, Doug.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
At the end of this, when we have a couple
of minutes remaining, I do want to finish out our
draft because we drafted twelve teams earlier that we think
can win Super Bowl fifty nine. But as Sam pointed out,
you know we've got now playoff teams, fourteen playoff teams.
If we did another draft, we would have two teams
that maybe wouldn't make the playoffs or weren't in the
playoffs last year, and we can. I think those are
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maybe even more interesting than the teams that we've already picked.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
So we'll just kind of let that one lay out,
all right.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
The last game that counted in the National Football League
was Super Bowl fifty eight. Chiefs stopped the forty nine
Ers in overtime as the Chiefs scored a touchdown after
the Niners scored the field goal.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
One of the things to.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Come from that was the game was on CBS and
Tony Romo went all Tony Romo kind of ruining Jim
Nantz's call. Andrew mar Sean Now of The Athletic had
Jim nance on his podcast and this was their exchange
about that final play.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
I was critical in the last call. I felt like
you had the call, you say jackpot. Then Tony comes
in and it's talking about Andy Reid's uh play call
as opposed to the you know you finishing up your
call Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Let's lay out how
am I what you you know you said, what's your
opinion of my opinion?
Speaker 11 (28:27):
Well, I felt good about the call, and you know
Tony's enthusiasm. Uh, you know, there's a call and there's
an there's analytics. Tony is enthusiastic. That's who he is.
It's all organic, that's who he is. He's like a
big kid. I I'm listen. I'm gonna never say anything
about Tony that would be misrepresented, not misrepresentative, miss understood
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by anyone. I just chalk it up to the excitement
of the moment.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
So there it is. That's terrible from Jim Nance.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That sounds terrible.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Everybody loves sports media podcast from Andrew Marshawn.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I know Andrew Marshans podcast is good. Andrew Marchian's a friend.
I think he's really good. I thought, I thought that's
asking a very fair question, and I thought Nance smartly
danced it and dodged it. But he basically said that
that's Romo's too much of a big kid to actually
do the job.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Nance is never going to say the wrong thing, at
least publicly.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
No, and he pushed for Romo.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I actually think that Romo did a lot of good
for Nance.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Totally absolutely reinvigorated dance. Nance's calls are better than ever.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I agree, but I and I'm not to the negative
point of Jason Stewart, but I would say that, like,
at some point something like that has to change, Like, dude,
you can't talk over Jim Nants in a championship call
like that, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Here's my only issue with it is jack Pot is
so jin eric and it's for whoever. And if it
was Patrick Mahomes taking a knee at the end of
regulation a run on the clock, would Nance still have
went with Jackpot.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I think that he would have, and I think that
he was actually helped by the timing and the overtime
and how that all played out. But I think anybody
that has done any broadcast needs to also realize that
not only are you trying to serve your partner, you're
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trying to serve the audience. And while it may not
sound like it, Tony Romo just rambling on and on
isn't serving the audience. When you lay out like that,
like Kevin Harlan tells you to do, it's not about
all about me and my call. It's also about the
fans soaking in that moment. Great, Jason, you have anything
to add to this.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I just I've always been surprised by the fact that
there hasn't been a producer with enough gravitas to pull
him aside and say, shut the f up in those
moments that we need to breathe. He just he did
it again in the postseason last year. I want to
show to it in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I try to just talk.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
We were actually just talking about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
The cutting out. Just maybe have him cut out the mics, mics,
you know like that.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, it would be so demeaning, but maybe you have to.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Nobody would know about it except those in the booth.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
But if you're the guy in the truck and you
can cut those mics, Doug, you'd know more about it
than me.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But you can definitely cut the mics if you want to.
Nobody does it, but they should sure.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
By the way, that was Andrew Marshan's The Main Event podcast.
Andrew's got a lot of irons in the fire. So
I just want to make it clear that's where Jim
Nance appeared other NFL news. The Washington Commanders ended up
firing the vice president of content one day after they
suspended Rail and Team for allegedly making disparaging remarks about
a variety of things in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I mean, I don't really know what choice. What choice
they were given.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Here there's my take on this. I didn't like the
reporting of it. Adam Schefter, like, the things that were
said secretly Doug were about specific names and people and players,
and when you're reporting these things, I've been using the
disparaging remarks. Some can say that the comments made were
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also about race and religion and other things, but it's
the point of when you bring up Roger Goodell's name,
you bring up anybody else's name, whether they did or didn't,
you're not bringing attention to the fact of what this
guy said, even if it wasn't true. So the specific
reporting of it, when you listen to the audio, you
can get all the information you need. But on the
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reporting of it, I just don't think it's necessarily fair
to the parties that were named in these secretly recorded conversations.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Fair fair, fair, fair point.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
All right? How about this one?
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Doug talks between the Big Twelve and Yukon about the
Huskies joining their league have been put on hold your
mark to the Big twelve. The commissioner their says, yeah,
they're going to pause these talks for a little while.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I know they're trying to expand to get the basketball thing.
I just I think everybody's waiting to see if the
ACC blows up, right, because you take Yukon like, well,
the ACC We've got to make sure we have the
right seats at the table. And even though most people
believe that North Carolina and Duke would go to the
Big Ten, what is left for the for the Big
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twelve to pick? And if they do pick a Yukon,
do they have to give him a full share or
just give them a basketball share?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
What do they want to do there?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So I think this is more Big Twelve generated than
Yukon generated.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Finally, before we fill out our draft from earlier, American
soccer star Alex Morgan, now thirty five years old and
pregnant with her second child, officially announced her retirement effective
after Sunday's match for San Diego FC.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Alex Morgan's career career, yes, coming to an end. All right.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Earlier on the show, we did our game time. I
feel a draft of picking teams that we thought could
win Super Bowl fifty nine. We picked twelve of them.
I think we need to pick sixteen. It'll be Sam, Me, Jason,
and Doug. You'll have the last pick. These are the
teams you cannot pick because they've already been chosen. Chiefs, Ravens, Lions, Bills, Packers,
forty nine Ers, Eagles, Bengals, Cowboys, Jets, Texans, and Rams.
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Samuel on the clock.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I'm gonna go with the Kirk Cousins led Falcons.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
All right, the Falcons. We talked about this a little
bit yesterday. It's more about their defense for me than
their offense. Right now, give me the Bears as my
fourth round pick. Jason Stewart, Dan, I'll take it from here.
Take the Dolphins. Dolphins off the board, Fins.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I like the Dolphins or a pick?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
All right, Doug, did any did anyby pick the Jets?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yes, Jason did, Cowboys, Jets, Dixon's Rams were the last four. Okay,
Chargers are there.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I'm gonna go with the Chargers. Jim Harball a little early.
I don't think they have the personnel for it, but
you never know.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I think else No, that's the press, get out there
and press.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Dan Buyer Quick prediction of tonight's game.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I think that the Chiefs win and cover tonight.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, I'm gonna take a slightly. It's a three point line, Okay.
I think the Baltimore Ravens win tonight. Baltimore Ravens win tonight.
I also think it will hit the over all.
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
Here's what I want to do. Okay. We do a
lot of kind of like in group.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
To talk on the show, right, not as much ensemble
stuff as some shows, more than other shows. But I
do value all of our opinions because we look at
different things and have different reasons and logic behind it.
So if we go back to last year as an example, right,
the Jets were a team that everybody kind of wondered about.
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There were some other teams as well, and you know,
I think there were higher hopes for the for the Steelers,
then they end up end up playing out. The Giants
were obviously a massive disappointment after missing the playoffs here
before the Eagles fell apart, the Lions were surprised. The
Vikings were doing well until Kirk Cousins got hurt. The
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Bears most people thought would be bad. The Panthers were
way worse than anybody could have thought. The NFC West
was about on par with what people thought, and the
AFC East.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It was about like.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The Jets were better considering they have their quarterback, better
than you could have thought. I think the Bengals because
of injury that held them back, but they still had
a chance to win in the playoffs. And of course
the Colts, whatever you thought of them, you didn't think
that Gardner Minshew would be their quarterback, and yet they
still had a good, solid year with them.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The Titans, on the other hand, fired their head coach,
which was a head scratch to me.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The point is every year there's a team that we
think is going to be good that for whatever reason,
usually injuries, sometimes dysfunction, falls off the radar. It's like
your favorite team that you know is going to fail.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Dan Byer, you got.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
One, go yeah, Doug, And I think when you look
at this, you could take the top ten in the NFL.
But when you really go ten, eleven, twelve deep, you're
getting into that Cowboys sort of range, and I would
rather just go top top. You know, the two teams
tonight I have the Lions in the Super Bowl so
it's not going to be them. But I do think
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that the off season of the San Francisco forty nine
ers is very intriguing in that, you know, Brandon Nyuk
is saying that he let this drag out a little
bit longer. So then where's Brandon Nyuk's real interest? Is
it in the money? Is in the Super Bowl? Do
you just not want to be at training camp? You know,
Trent Williams is back with the team. I felt like
him sitting out wasn't that huge deal. But as I
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mentioned yesterday, there were some social media blurbs coming out
of saying, you know what, ownership maybe isn't really too
keen on where the forty nine ers are set up
and putting all of their eggs in one basket. And
I still to your point, Doug, that we've done this
exercise on the show of who would you take over
Brock party? It's not a question of is brock Purty great,
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It's just a question of, all right, where is he
truly when we're talking about quarterbacks. So in saying all
of that, and with a roster that is the seventh
oldest in the National Football League, I think that you
could see that dip with the San Francisco forty nine ers,
and maybe my biggest evidence is just the Super Bowl
hangover of what happens when you lose in overtime. But
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I'm going with San Francisco as the team that I
think could could fall off because of just of what's
transpired over the last seven months or so.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
All Right, solid, solid thoughts and dissertation.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
If that happens. If the forty nine ers do fall off,
and god forbid that I don't like make the playoffs, right,
doesn't the brock party conversation completely change because right now
it's let's try to win now with him under that
salary because we're gonna have to pay him after the season.
But if they all off, don't you just start thinking
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about other options at quarterback at that point, or maybe
even drafting another quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't think there's any question you think about it.
You definitely think about it. But the only the problem
with drafting one is, man, you got to hit it right. Man,
You got to have a good supporting cast. And you know,
it's the same thing that Jerry's thinking, like, we're this close.
All we got to do is not play bad in
one important game. All right, let me get to Jay
stew give me your team that you feel like is
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most likely to drop off the map off the map.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I mentioned it yesterday. I don't know if this is
a top layer team that Dan just laid out. But
remember a year ago, nobody was talking about the Rams.
We had gone to training camp and even the Rams
officials were like, we have no idea what's going to
happen with this team?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
They had zero idea, and.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
They played really well, surprised everybody, and had a couple
of fantasy players that everyone adored, and it was a
real feel good season. And for the most part, I
think Matthew Stafford was on the field. He stayed healthy,
and that's a big key. I heard Greg Cosell today
say that Matthew Stafford is the best quarterback in the NFC,
and he said it matter of factly, like there was
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no discussion, like wow, that's that's quite a proclamation. The
problem is he's such a glass Joe. And I do
think that the Rams are kind of that team that
everyone is choosing this year as a team that's gonna
be good. And for whatever reason, my gut tells me
that Stafford is going to struggle to stay healthy, and
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I think at that point everything goes downhill. As we
discussed yesterday, I guess Jimmy G is their backup. I
remember last year he almost got DeVante Adams killed on
the football field a couple times. So I don't know
if I would rely on Jimmy G if that's the case,
But the Rams are my pick for a team that
could easily kind of fall off the cliff is share.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
And remember, Jimmy G's not available because of his pe
D suspension.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
That's why, Well that's what I said.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Jimmy's just not even available for the first two games.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, just just a little bit more on the Rams
as well, because we touched on this yesterday. They are
shuffling their offensive line on the season without Aaron Donald.
On defense, I mean, I mean, it's it's much more.
It feels like they're losing like three players on the
defensive line without Aaron Donald, like truly, like you're losing
Aaron Donald. Then you're losing the guy that you would
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normally double team, and then you're also us losing the
guy that you would probably triple team if you could.
So so losing Aaron Donald is a big deal. Darius Williams,
a cornerback, was just placed on injured reserve, So you're
coming in shorthanded on defense. And for as much as
Puka Akua emerged, you know, last season, and you have
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Cooper Cups now thirty one, a red zone threat for them. Yeah,
I have I have some questions about the Rams.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I think you have legitimate questions. Brooms. I thought they
could be a surprise team.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And then Jase two things the opposite of them. I Sam,
do you have a team you think of fall?
Speaker 8 (08:09):
If I had to pick a team, I guess this
is a tough one for me. I guess I'd go
with the Eagles for a number of reasons. They had
that you know that really lackadaisical end to their finish
last season where they were ten to one, they ended
up finishing I think like eleven and six or you know,
something like that. And you know, Jason Kelsey has retired,
Jalen Hurts has been banged up through his you know
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time in the NFL. You know, you never know if
he could suffer an injury. Fans are a little frustrated
with Nick Sirianni. They are in year two of both
their I believe if correct me if I'm wrong here, guys,
their offensive and defensive coordinators are going to their second
year after that. Great weren't they all like hired away?
Weren't they?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
The Eagles are called new coordinators on both sides of
the ball. Okay, so okay, so yes, Hell and Fangio. Okay,
So yeah, there there you go.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
So who knows if those schemes will translate. I'll go
with the Eagles as my pick. They could fall off.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Kellen Moore, by the way, I two years ago or
maybe three years ago, wasn't he like the the next
the head coach in waiting?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
In Dallas.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yes, I thought they should have fired McCarthy after the
first year and hired him. Yes, just so you wouldn't leave.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It could turn out that the Cowboys and Jerry Jones,
who he spoke about earlier in the show, maybe they
were right about Kellen Moore. I mean that season lasher
was a disaster. You can't really blame him completely because
Herbert was was banged up.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But if he doesn't do any great before he was
banged up.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Herbert didn't he like lose a lung or something.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, no, yeah, but he broke a finger, right, he
just a finger.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The lung was lost as well, but they weren't They
weren't killing it. The offense was kind of clunky anyway,
to be honest.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Can I just clarify something? So after the Eagles Super
Bowl run, didn't they get both their offensive court coordinated defense?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
They were tired away, right, Jonathan Gannon went to the
Cardinals Shane Stick and went.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
And then so then they had one year under the
new guys, then they were fired.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Yeah, Brian Johnson was did you watch their offense last year?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
No?
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Yeah, no, I mean listen, they were ten and one
then they fell off the map.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
So that was part of the disconnect on offense, was
was Brian Johnson, Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
So they're starting over again with new COROC and DC.
So yeah, so who knows? They're unstable right now?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think, yeah, okay, I'm gonna give mine and this one.
I don't think it's going to happen, but I think
it very much could happen because they've been sitting there
teetering on getting too a Super Bowl for the last
couple of years and that's all of our expectations.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But what about the Buffalo Bills, right, mm hmm. You know, like.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Two of their top wide receivers gone from last year.
The defense isn't as good as it used to be,
they never really figured out the running game. Still Josh
Allen running the football, and that division is really really good,
really good. Granted, I don't think the Patriots are particularly good,
but I do think the Jets are good, and I
do think the Dolphins are good. And the Bills they
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just are very dependent upon Josh Allen and when he's
been great, they're great. When he's just below average, they're
below average.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yes, and I think it's a good pick. I feel
it's going to be auditioned by some subtraction without stuff
on Diggs there. But to your point, Doug, something I
mentioned earlier, Bills are also the oldest team in the NFL.
And there was a story that surfaced yesterday that was
an unbelievable feel good story yesterday, I believe it was yesterday.
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DeMar Hamlin going to make his first start since suffering
cardiac arrest this week against the Cardinals. That is awesome.
But if we're sitting here talking football, Damar Hamlin was
available Week one of last year and was inactive. So
what you're saying is is you had a guy who
played sparingly last year and you actually had every reason
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to play him because of the story that he was,
but you deemed him not good enough. Now you are
starting him at free safety for the season. So what
does that say about your safety position?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Right?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Like, if Damar Hamlin, if you would have started last
year in Week one, what an amazing story after what
we had seen transpire a year and a half ago.
But he didn't, and he was inactive for a lot
of games. I don't know, he played in like five
games last year maybe give or take. But now he's
going to be starting for them, and we get wrapped
up in the great story of it. But if you're
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a Bills fan, last year, Sean McDermott and that defense
kind of determined you know what, DeMar's not even good
enough to be active on game days. Now he's going
to be starting on the secondary.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That one strikes me as odd as well.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, there's a lot their wide receiving corps. They drafted
Kean Coleman in the second round, but I mean it's
Mac Collins, Curtis, Samuel, and Khalil Shakirque. He's the one
with the rapport with with Alan Kincage should have a
huge year. But yeah, there are questions with Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Was Buffalo half of Motown to Showtown Snowtown? It was
half of Motown to Snowtown last hour, Showtown would be
the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I always think, right, well, Snowtown is also the Raiders
because of Vegas and cocaine. But that's completely different.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
I was just thinking, doesn't really snow much in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I thought cocaine's more Miami.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
That could be as well. If you want to do that,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Have you guys ever seen cocaine in person?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Not me. I know I know Sam every night.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
I've never I'm being completely honest here, I've never done
cocaine in my life. I think I've seen it before
at a party you saw a time ago. Yeah, I
saw it, But why does that.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Mean party with you?
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Just I just I'm just interested white powder.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
There was somebody somebody's trying to tell me.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
It's like, yeah, I was at this party and everybody's
doing cocaine, But I don't do coke.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
Like Okay, I swear I've never done it. Iird enough,
I don't need to be extra wired.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm not attacking you.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
I'm just to put that on the record.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But like, was it like a pile of cocon It
was notable and somebody's cutting it up.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
It was not scarface. It was like residue sitting there.
This is like when I went to go visit my
sister and she took names. Yeah, named a sister. No,
she took me to a party. I was in high school.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Cocaine, that's responsible.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
It was just it was just it was an IVY
League party.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So I was there. It was no crack, real cocaine.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Did you tie the sweater around your neck?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
No? No, no, none of that.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
No, just visiting and it just happened to be there.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I am curious of what Jason Stewart was saying before
we got on the cocaine train.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
What were you saying, Jason?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You saying Snowtown Motown to Snowtown. Bear with me on
this one. So you know, Friday's game is going to
be on a streaming app in Brazil.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And it's Motown versus No Town. Yep.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Dan said yesterday that they need to do a game
in Alaska, and you know he's kind of making fun
of why not just go to Alaska. I'm going to
take a couple of things. I'm going to take that
a step further. I'm not going to be a one
up guy like Sam. I'm just going to take it
a step further. It's an additional creative piece. How about
Motown to Snowtown at the North Pole on Christmas and
(15:26):
it could be on the Hallmark streaming out. Okay, Motown
to Snowtown definitely not a one up, of course not.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
My whole point was, you know there are people in
Alaska that will never see an NFL game. Why not
do it up right there, right, make it, make it
a big deal. You're going to Brazil, and I know
why they aren't because there's not as much money there,
But that would be better to me play a game
(15:53):
out there.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I think, what about what about if I found a
happy medium? You know they play some of these preseason
games in college stadiums. What if they played like one
NFL game in a college stadium per year. There's plenty
of places that don't have NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
They go crazy for it.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I no offense to Alaska, but they really have nothing.
So I feel like if you're like an LSU fan
and when the Saints had a play in Baton Rouge,
it just didn't have that same feel. I mean, are
you saying like they should go to a lot.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Or something like? Sure, maybe those fans pick out I.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Mean, I mean would be incredible, sell out, pick out
the you know there's six sixteen best sites, non NFL
sites that don't have go to states, states or areas
that don't have an NFL team. Right, Why can't the
Texans play at Daryl Royal Stadium? You know they at
der Royal Stadium at the University of Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, that would be cool.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
If you had a rivalry with the Cowboys that you could,
you know, make it your own Red River rival.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That would be amazing. NFL and play there.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Every year you play it there, that would be unique.
That would be something different. I don't know if I
would love it, but I would. I would definitely appreciate
the effort of the NFL doing something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I've often thought they should change the divisions and get
you know, get Baltimore in and Washington in the same division,
et cetera. Et cetera, Jets and the Giants the same division.
I still think that's the way. The problem is the
NFC East is so historic and people just struggle to
get away.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well yeah, well that's you want to talk about bending
over backwards for the Cowboys. There's no reason for the
Cowboys to be in the NFC East. But there's every
reason for the Cowboys to be in the NFC East.
When they didn't realignment, it made no sense. Yeah, zero sense.
But because of the Cowboys they get Yeah, they get
that aspect. They could just play with the extra game.
You could have played all these rivalries. You know, my
(17:47):
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm with you. I don't know why they don't do it.
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Speaker 3 (18:40):
Tonight, we got Thursday Night football. Okay, Thursday Night football.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's right, We've made it.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Lamar Jackson, quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens against Pat Mahomes,
defending Super Bowl champion quarterback of the Kansasity Chiefs. Jackson's
one of four against Mahomes, which is tied for the
fifth most lopsided rivalry in the NFL between NFL Award
winning MVP Award winning quarterbacks and played at least five times.
Other than Mahomes, no quarterback has has beaten Jackson more
(19:16):
than twice.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Last year, the Chiefs held Jackson a ten points or
less for just a fourth time in his eighty three
game career. So Lamar Jackson may be great now, but
we know that his struggles have been in the playoffs,
send recently against the Chiefs. Let's welcome in Bill Krackenberger,
who's a professional sports better along with Jeff Schwartz and
Brian no new Ho, co hosts of Fox Sports Radios
(19:38):
Countdown to Kickoffers and I bet MGM. Every Sunday morning
tune in and Sunday morning ten am Eastern, take you
all the way to kick Off on Fox Sports Trader
of the iHeartRadio presented by bet MGM. Bill, thanks so
much for joining us. What do you think about tonight's line?
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Hey, Doug, great, great to hear from you. And tonight's wine.
You know it's funny. I'm in Vegas here, just came
to a quiet area of a casino. I actually bet
a little bit under forty seven because that seems to
be the trend with these prime time football games. I'm
not really a trend guy. I don't go back many years,
but I just think last year was a really good factor,
(20:13):
deciding factor for me to put a little bit on
the under here. I also here in Vegas at Kansas
City minus two and a half a few weeks back.
Not as strong of a play as it once was
that thick in the game was going to go to three.
Everyone bet in the Super Bowl champion. But there's a
lot of respect out there for Jackson and Baltimore. So
this is tons of two way actions. A matter of fact,
(20:34):
the casino I'm in wrote a two hundred thousand dollars
ticket on Baltimore. They went from three to two and
a half. Where they sit right now, they're probably the
only two and a half in the country that has
minus two and a half minus a dollars ten. Everything
else is minus fifteen, minus twenty or three. So I'm
waiting for them to go back to the three. I'm
surprised they didn't yet. They take a lot of volume here,
(20:54):
so they wrote to the two hundred thousand. Jimmy Viccaro,
big famous bookmaker here in Vegas, posted the ticket on
Twitter about six seven weeks ago, and yeah, so we
got a lot of two way action on this game.
If anything, No, I lean more towards the under there's
still a couple of forty seven's out there around the
country and here in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I agree, Bill, there is there is some some
meat seal on that bone. Okay, let's let's go around
the league a little bit. First, Okay, so you gave
us what you thought of tomorrow night. What about Brazil?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
How do we get it?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
There's so much unknown with the Eagles right new offense.
Granted they started hot the last two years. We don't
know what Aaron Rodgers gonna look like. We haven't seen
him in the preseason. So much unknown, unknown setting. You know,
Peacock's host of the game. It's just weird.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What's your lean for that game?
Speaker 7 (21:44):
I don't like that this game is not being played here.
I understand they have a couple of games in England
throughout the year, or some don't. Brazil, I mean, the
team's both got notices not to go outside their hotel rooms.
So it's just not a good atmosphere for them, Sam Pots.
But if anything, in this game, green Bay is getting
a lot of respect this year with their fifty two
(22:05):
million dollars manunder the helm. We know Rogers has had
no reps here in preseason, but he's you know, all
time veteran, future Hall of Famer. You know, if anything,
I would probably throw Green Bay in a teaser here,
taking them up through the key numbers of three and seven,
taking them up to all the lines two two and
a half, taking them up to eight and a half.
You want to get past the eight. Even now with
(22:28):
analytics being in the game, where these teams go for two,
a lot, miss extra points, a lot of things, I
would probably take that Green Bay up up to the
eight and a half and listen, it's going to seem
like public everyone's on the same thing here. All I
want Cincinnati is to win the game. So I'm gonna
take Cincinnati down to minus one one and a half
and just let them win the game versus New England,
(22:49):
which sounds like it's going to be so easy to do.
But don't think New England won't, you know, give them
a game. They don'tant. They don't want to embarrassed here.
But I do like Cincinnati in that game. Win the teeser.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Do you have a team that you kind of have
a secret? Bill Krachenberger, crush on. I think this team
is good before the rest of the world catches up
on it.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
You know, my allegiance is my bank roll. I don't
care about these guys. They don't care about me. Off
the field. It's every week I could bet against someone,
I bet on someone I'll give you my anti team,
and living here in Las Vegas, it's not very popular.
I am anti Las Vegas this year. I'm under seven wins,
under seven and a half wins, late a dollar fifty.
I don't think they're going to have a good season.
(23:27):
Raiders under for season wins. So if I'm not giving
you a team I love this year, but I'm giving
you a team I'm against this year would be the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I mean, I do think that Garner Minshew gives them
a better chance, but they're still waiting on a quarterback.
There's so many holes that roster. It has been put
together by so many different people. I love to LESCo
and he's a very good drafter, but I and I
know they're in the market for a quarterbacks. I just
I don't love it. I don't love it either. Your
biggest lean of the Sunday Slate is what I tell you.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I'm on a couple Usually I'm not on so many sides.
I am on some sides here though, I like Jacksonville
with three and a half about three three or four
sportsbooks have that here in town versus Miami taking the hook.
I just think that hook can be the difference in
that type of game. I don't know if I'm so
high on Miami this year. You know that division is
going to be a tough division. It's almost like Yazi,
(24:20):
anyone can win it. But then again, I'm anti Buffalo
for the year. I like season wins under on Buffalo
who's going to win the division? And Miami the Jets.
I'm not really high on the Jets either. I need
to see Rogers. I need to Sae in action to
see if he aged this past year. So, but I
am on Jacksonville bus to three and a half there also, listen,
(24:41):
the most popular team here, millions and millions of dollars
in risk in this town. Every single book maker in
town has told me they are anti Houston because the
public loves Houston this year. They love the quarterback, they
love the team. Everyone's high on Houston, so of course
I want to be on the book side. I am
taking Indianapolis. I took them already here where I'm at
(25:04):
at the South Point. I took them plus three earlier,
So Indianapolis plus three home dog. You know again, this
is really a bet against Houston in the public. This
game opened up at one went to three. So again
my players are going to be ugly plays throughout the year.
That's why I'm going to be on the bookmaker side.
I'll give you something I didn't bet yet, Doug, and
(25:25):
for your people at home here and listening, everyone listening, driving,
I am gonna go Monday night and stick with that
Monday night home. I'm sorry, Primetime game under. So I'm
gonna go Monday night. San Fran and the Jets, I'm
going to go under forty four have not bet it yet.
Forty fours are everywhere. Jets San Fran. I don't think
they're going to come out Monday and have an offensive power.
(25:48):
As you can see, I'm kind of anti Jets this year,
but you know what, I'm anti san France too. I
don't think they're gonna win twelve games, and that's their
season win total. So I just don't see them winning
twelve games this year. I think the offense is that
Jet defense is very good. I just think that under
forty four. So I give you guys a bunch of
plays this week. Everyone, get your bank rolls ready, crack.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
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Speaker 2 (26:25):
Bill, Good luck to you, You're the best. I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Thanks, Buddy.
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Let's start up to during Dan Byer, you'll get all
(27:00):
all the topics of the day. We'll discuss them all
and as we get in in the press.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
The press, what do you got, Dan, Doug.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
At the end of this, when we have a couple
of minutes remaining, I do want to finish out our
draft because we drafted twelve teams earlier that we think
can win Super Bowl fifty nine. But as Sam pointed out,
you know we've got now playoff teams, fourteen playoff teams.
If we did another draft, we would have two teams
that maybe wouldn't make the playoffs or weren't in the
playoffs last year, and we can. I think those are
(27:32):
maybe even more interesting than the teams that we've already picked.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
So we'll just kind of let that one lay out,
all right.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
The last game that counted in the National Football League
was Super Bowl fifty eight. Chiefs stopped the forty nine
Ers in overtime as the Chiefs scored a touchdown after
the Niners scored the field goal.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
One of the things to.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Come from that was the game was on CBS and
Tony Romo went all Tony Romo kind of ruining Jim
Nantz's call. Andrew mar Sean Now of The Athletic had
Jim nance on his podcast and this was their exchange
about that final play.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
I was critical in the last call. I felt like
you had the call, you say jackpot. Then Tony comes
in and it's talking about Andy Reid's uh play call
as opposed to the you know you finishing up your
call Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Let's lay out how
am I what you you know you said, what's your
opinion of my opinion?
Speaker 11 (28:27):
Well, I felt good about the call, and you know
Tony's enthusiasm. Uh, you know, there's a call and there's
an there's analytics. Tony is enthusiastic. That's who he is.
It's all organic, that's who he is. He's like a
big kid. I I'm listen. I'm gonna never say anything
about Tony that would be misrepresented, not misrepresentative, miss understood
(28:52):
by anyone. I just chalk it up to the excitement
of the moment.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
So there it is. That's terrible from Jim Nance.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That sounds terrible.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Everybody loves sports media podcast from Andrew Marshawn.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I know Andrew Marshans podcast is good. Andrew Marchian's a friend.
I think he's really good. I thought, I thought that's
asking a very fair question, and I thought Nance smartly
danced it and dodged it. But he basically said that
that's Romo's too much of a big kid to actually
do the job.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Nance is never going to say the wrong thing, at
least publicly.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
No, and he pushed for Romo.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I actually think that Romo did a lot of good
for Nance.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Totally absolutely reinvigorated dance. Nance's calls are better than ever.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I agree, but I and I'm not to the negative
point of Jason Stewart, but I would say that, like,
at some point something like that has to change, Like, dude,
you can't talk over Jim Nants in a championship call
like that, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Here's my only issue with it is jack Pot is
so jin eric and it's for whoever. And if it
was Patrick Mahomes taking a knee at the end of
regulation a run on the clock, would Nance still have
went with Jackpot.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I think that he would have, and I think that
he was actually helped by the timing and the overtime
and how that all played out. But I think anybody
that has done any broadcast needs to also realize that
not only are you trying to serve your partner, you're
(30:33):
trying to serve the audience. And while it may not
sound like it, Tony Romo just rambling on and on
isn't serving the audience. When you lay out like that,
like Kevin Harlan tells you to do, it's not about
all about me and my call. It's also about the
fans soaking in that moment. Great, Jason, you have anything
to add to this.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I just I've always been surprised by the fact that
there hasn't been a producer with enough gravitas to pull
him aside and say, shut the f up in those
moments that we need to breathe. He just he did
it again in the postseason last year. I want to
show to it in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I try to just talk.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
We were actually just talking about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
The cutting out. Just maybe have him cut out the mics, mics,
you know like that.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, it would be so demeaning, but maybe you have to.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Nobody would know about it except those in the booth.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
But if you're the guy in the truck and you
can cut those mics, Doug, you'd know more about it
than me.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
But you can definitely cut the mics if you want to.
Nobody does it, but they should sure.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
By the way, that was Andrew Marshan's The Main Event podcast.
Andrew's got a lot of irons in the fire. So
I just want to make it clear that's where Jim
Nance appeared other NFL news. The Washington Commanders ended up
firing the vice president of content one day after they
suspended Rail and Team for allegedly making disparaging remarks about
a variety of things in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I mean, I don't really know what choice. What choice
they were given.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Here there's my take on this. I didn't like the
reporting of it. Adam Schefter, like, the things that were
said secretly Doug were about specific names and people and players,
and when you're reporting these things, I've been using the
disparaging remarks. Some can say that the comments made were
(32:24):
also about race and religion and other things, but it's
the point of when you bring up Roger Goodell's name,
you bring up anybody else's name, whether they did or didn't,
you're not bringing attention to the fact of what this
guy said, even if it wasn't true. So the specific
reporting of it, when you listen to the audio, you
can get all the information you need. But on the
(32:44):
reporting of it, I just don't think it's necessarily fair
to the parties that were named in these secretly recorded conversations.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Fair fair, fair, fair point.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
All right? How about this one?
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Doug talks between the Big Twelve and Yukon about the
Huskies joining their league have been put on hold your
mark to the Big twelve. The commissioner their says, yeah,
they're going to pause these talks for a little while.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I know they're trying to expand to get the basketball thing.
I just I think everybody's waiting to see if the
ACC blows up, right, because you take Yukon like, well,
the ACC We've got to make sure we have the
right seats at the table. And even though most people
believe that North Carolina and Duke would go to the
Big Ten, what is left for the for the Big
(33:28):
twelve to pick? And if they do pick a Yukon,
do they have to give him a full share or
just give them a basketball share?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
What do they want to do there?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So I think this is more Big Twelve generated than
Yukon generated.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Finally, before we fill out our draft from earlier, American
soccer star Alex Morgan, now thirty five years old and
pregnant with her second child, officially announced her retirement effective
after Sunday's match for San Diego FC.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Alex Morgan's career career, yes, coming to an end. All right.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Earlier on the show, we did our game time. I
feel a draft of picking teams that we thought could
win Super Bowl fifty nine. We picked twelve of them.
I think we need to pick sixteen. It'll be Sam, Me, Jason,
and Doug. You'll have the last pick. These are the
teams you cannot pick because they've already been chosen. Chiefs, Ravens, Lions, Bills, Packers,
forty nine Ers, Eagles, Bengals, Cowboys, Jets, Texans, and Rams.
(34:24):
Samuel on the clock.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I'm gonna go with the Kirk Cousins led Falcons.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
All right, the Falcons. We talked about this a little
bit yesterday. It's more about their defense for me than
their offense. Right now, give me the Bears as my
fourth round pick. Jason Stewart, Dan, I'll take it from here.
Take the Dolphins. Dolphins off the board, Fins.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I like the Dolphins or a pick?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
All right, Doug, did any did anyby pick the Jets?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yes, Jason did, Cowboys, Jets, Dixon's Rams were the last four. Okay,
Chargers are there.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I'm gonna go with the Chargers. Jim Harball a little early.
I don't think they have the personnel for it, but
you never know.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I think else No, that's the press, get out there
and press.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Dan Buyer Quick prediction of tonight's game.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I think that the Chiefs win and cover tonight.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, I'm gonna take a slightly. It's a three point line, Okay.
I think the Baltimore Ravens win tonight. Baltimore Ravens win tonight.
I also think it will hit the over all.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
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