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On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug weighs in on the Lions' Sunday night win over the Rams and explains how the Lions have learned how to win.
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Draft Kings The Crown is yours. You know, I almost
feel like as much as Jay Stewart I met and Chris,
I know you want to talk about the Lions because
you're a Lion fan. I mean, think about what we
have this weekend, right, Notre Dame loses that home to
Northern Illinois. That happened right after they beat They got
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a big, big, big win last week against Texa and
M on the road, right, so that actually happens. I mean,
I'd even say col beating Auburn is a gigantic win.
Not necessarily for everybody, but there was some college football
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stuff that was like things. I never thought I would
see Illinois rushing the field after beating Kansas. I didn't
know I would. What's the phrase that you hate, Chase
Dow I did not have that one on my bingo card,
not at all. There's also Jordan Love on Friday Night
losing was inaccurate in the third quarter, Like third quarter
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game was there to be won. He was inaccurate. Then
he gets hurt late in the game, late in a
close game. He gets hurt. It looks like a high
ankle sprain. His neee did pop, but it did not
tear anything. He's out four to six weeks like that happened.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That happened.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I don't think we'll have a chance to get to
the fact that the Bears won in spite of not
because of the number one overall picking the draft. Matter
of fact, all the young quarterbacks generally look like rookie quarterbacks.
Were so used to them coming in and looking good
early and then maybe regressing towards me. None of them
look good, none of them. I'm sure Buyer is gonna
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try and get us into some uniform discussion, which we should,
because Seattle won the day with those uniforms. Fair dan
byers that, like, I have no problem. I've also kind
of come around on I don't actually like those those
powder blue and the yellow pants with the Chargers. I don't.
I don't know what it is. It's just it feels
like too much color, too much.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The Lions like good in their uniforms, but uh, it
was only trumped by that overtime drive.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My goodness.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh man, Now they've changed the Honolulu blue. That's a
different shade of blue than I'm used to. But I
think here's the thing about about the Lions, and I'll
credit one of the guys on my staff. Tyris Thomas
Tyres course number eight pick of the draft. He was
at my house raving dinner like he's like, and I said,
I can't believe the Lions are on Sunday Night football
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first week and the season and it's where where everybody's
okay with it because they're actually good. And he said,
this is the first time in my life the Lions
have been good. And I was thinking to him, like,
there have been times in which, you know, they made
the playoffs a couple times. I know Stafford made the playoffs, whatever,
but nobody thought they were actually a good football team,
even when they had Barry Sanders. And I think all
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of us can attest to it. We were always like
Barry's great, but like they don't have much else. They
don't have much else. I'm trying to think. And Damikin
Sue is like the only defensive player I think I
can name from the Lions in the last twenty twenty
five years. And I know, Chris Profector, you're a Detroit guy.
You can probably go about one hundred names deep. But
I'm telling you nationally, like, if we go and think
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about it, how many big time defensive players they actually
had no.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I think in the history. The only one besides Sue
that comes close is probably Darius Slay and at this
point he's kind of becoming a little bit known more
as an Eagles player, not just a Lions guy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's crazy, though, right to follow U to follow football, Okay,
to follow football this long for forty years, and to
go like, yeah, I got like two guys and they're
both recent. Here's Dan Campbell. Here's Dan Campbell summing up
to win.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
The ones say that that can just play basic football
the best man that you know, the blocking, the tackling, targeting, communication,
taking care of the football, being smart with it to
check down. It's they win.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's it. And I would conclude that the hardest part
of to teach a team, Hey, the hardest thing to
teach a team is how to win. And and again,
like we could even think about last year in the
NFC Championship game, they had a lead and I thought
Dan Campbell's decision making wasn't good and I can't necessarily
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pick it apart yesterday whereas I felt like the Rams
probably could have used more clock put themselves in a
better position. But whatever, it's a super competitive game. Dan
Campbell has taught them how to win, and he's taught
them how to win with his opening speech which everybody
made fun of, which was teaching them to never stop competing.
Because he never stopped competing. You're gonna win more of
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than most. Here's Campbell on how tough Matt Stafford is.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Stafford man, you know he It's almost like you don't
want to hit him because I think when he hit
him he plays better, and you know, he just he
just continued to make plays.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Here's Sean McVay on his aggressive mentality.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
We came in here with an aggressive mindset of mentality.
Didn't feel like you could settle for field goals. That's
why we came up short the last time. And then
ultimately a couple of those situations is inevitably what ended
up leading to us probably not finishing it out tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, probably probably. I mean, look, Pooka Nukula gets hurt,
You're on the road, the Lions are good. Probably could
have done a better job of managing time and score
and situation, and also, like not this is their first
game in forever. With that, Aaron Donald, So your defense
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is trying to figure out leadership and pecking order as
well as pass and run, block and run stopping. So
I don't think it was bad for the Rams, but
I do think the fact that the Lions won and
that there's no freak out, it doesn't feel like it
wasn't an upset. It was supposed to be. And like
all of that is the one to eighty that's happened
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since Dan Campbell took over, and that's remarkable because there
have been so many quality coaches that have gotten opportunities
and no one's been able to do that where you
don't turn on the Lions game thinking something crazy bad
is going to happen, something that we're going to laugh at,
and then it's not just to make them competitive, but
make them able to win those games. That's a huge step.
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have you guys seen the new Buicks. Have you seen them? No,
there's like a new Buick little suv. It's nice, It's
really nice. And my dad had a Buick in the
late eighties. You got a Buick Regal unlimited. I always
thought it should have been limited, but apparently it was unlimited.
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And we all have in our mind what we think
of Buicks. But trying to convince us like, hey, that's
a viable options are really well made cars, nice America made.
Like you know, you end up talking yourself out of things.
You're like, well it's American maid, like, not realizing all
of the foreign cars. Their SUVs are made in the
States anyway, right, Mercedes, BMW, you know, Infinity, They're all
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made the States. Like sitting there going like, ah, foreign
made cars, that's an America may car. But to get
to that point to where the brand recognition is that
of a positive is remarkable. Yes, Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So what I think is interesting about the Lions is
part of their history and part of what Dan Campbell is.
And I don't want to put words in Chris Purfett's mouth,
but I feel if he says this, it sounds bias.
And I'm more of a neutral party on this, but
they resemble who Dan Campbell is. But it's more than that,
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it's they resemble who Dan Campbell is when the rest
of the league is trying to throw the football all
around the yard and it makes the forty nine ers
difficult in trying to stop. And we'll find out if
they can continue that run tonight. But they are so physical,
and it was pointed out many times last night by
collins Worth in Tarico on the broadcast on how it's
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weak one. These guys are gassed and Detroit just in
the end impose their will on the ram by just
running the football down in that final drive. But it's
also an organization that I thought for a while when
you talk about those bad years, Doug, we're talking about
misses on first round picks. You know, it wasn't too
long ago they took you know, Jeff Akuda with the
first round pick. But we're talking about Charles Rogers. We're
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talking about drafting all these wide receivers. Now look at
what they've done. You know, Aiden Hutchinson hit, Jamier Gibbs
sure feels like a hit. Who else am I missing?
Like they've pine Sewell, that's the biggest one of all
because when the Bengals took Jamar Chase, everybody said, uh,
you know, the Bengals needed offensive lineman, but they ended
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up going with the wide receiver. And then Chase is
the awesome rookie season and the Bengals go to the
Super Bowl and it's like, see, this is why you
don't take an offensive lineman. But now Pane Sewel is
like the best offensive lineman in the National Football League,
at least the best young offensive lineman. So you talk
about that building of it, and they're just a team
that you don't necessarily want to play, and it's pretty
amazing because of how good they are, Like there's no
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fluke about this at all, and that's what makes the
Lions great.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Jay s dou what was your level of interest in
that game Sunday Night Rams Lions.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I was into it. I liked it a lot, had
some fantasy interest, and but no, I liked it a lot.
I think one thing that we kind of do need
to mention, and I saw this tweeted out by Bernie Fratto,
Stafford's iron t in the end zone to end the
first half. I mean that that was huge. I think
McVeigh they had a three point lead with four minutes left.
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They didn't They didn't force the Lions to use any timeouts.
They threw the ball three times Karen Williams ran out
of bounds to stop the clock. As much as it
was a Lions victory, I think they were very much
helped out by mcveigh's aggression at the end of the
game and Stafford's decision at the end of that first
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half as well.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Uh yeah, I thought Stafford's throw at the end of
the first half was awful. It really really was bad,
and you have to come away with points in that
in that situation, have to come away with points. I
was really into the game as well. I don't know
if the Lions are top of the league, but I
do think that Dan Campbell's style and the overall talent
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that they have, I think that's a clear playoff team.
I don't know if it's a Super Bowl team.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
I just.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I don't know, but I think the fact that they've
flipped the league to believing in them is nothing short
of miraculous.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
What do you think they're missing?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Then?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
If you don't think they're a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, I mean, listen jameson Williams and that catching touchdown
on the stop and go is amazing. I think you
know the narrative out of Detroit profet you could speak
to this is James Williams really immature, didn't have a
good year. There was thoughts that maybe he's a bust
if he can be anywhere near the talent he was
before the injury and a consistent one. I think that's
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the type of explosive playmaker they need, just explosive playmakers,
because my thing is I'm just not a golf guy.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I think you got the preview of like I know
from camp all Ben Johnson, their offensive coordinator who's been
you know, picked for wanting to be a head coach.
All he talked about was Jamison Williams and how they're
gonna use him, And that was a preview of it.
Like last year we saw Jamison Williams on some those
deep routes you talked about. But they're using Jamison Williams
in every phase of the game now, in these end
to rounds and all this kind of stuff, and it's
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adding another value, especially as you're seeing teams like a'm
on Ross. Saint Brown was quiet in that game because
the Rams are just they know they have to shut
down Aman Ross Saint Brown because that's who Goff's going to.
And instead the line showed like, no, we've got they
have Jamison Williams as well, and they've got Sam Laporte
as well. This is an offense with a lot of
different weapons. I didn't even think they played that well.
I think the Rams playing against them perfectly out of
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the gate. But Jamison Williams, if he can put a
couple more games together like this, I don't think there's
any question to him at this point.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
If, if, if he has that consistently in him, that
would change because I'm just I just don't. I don't
love golf. It's really what have kind of come down to,
you know. And I know that some of it is
when guys don't believe in you, you're not going to
believe in yourself. But I had enough people with the
Rams were like, look, he just wouldn't let the ball go,
like wouldn't. I wouldn't push it down the field, like
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just wouldn't. He's just too matt ryany and and I
understand sometimes you can you can be done with the
guy when he's not really done, But I just I
got to see it for a substantial amount of time,
and not the not throwing interceptions thing. I need to
see you take a couple of chances through.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You know, I think he's shown some of it. He's
shown some of it last year. But also to like,
I understand LA has a vision of golf. But from
the Michigan side, I've gone to a lot of different
events in Michigan and every sporting events, fans are chanting
NonStop Jared Goff, Jared Goff at Michigan games, at Red
Wings games.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm not talking about the fans, but this is just
an energy and support getting that he's just not doing.
Do we know more than Sean McVay.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, But I also thinkhip was this guy's not good
enough to get back to another super Bowl. Now you
can make the wrong decision as a coach. I totally
get that. But my point is, like, I don't care
how fans feel, I care about how the actual lion
Ben Johnson in that room actually feels. Do they think
they can dial up some explosives and he'll take advantage
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of it.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson certainly have believed in
Jared Goff, They've been given plenty of chances to talk
against it, and they this is a lion's organization that's
backs into the hillt like. So, I guess this is
turning into a Sean McVay versus Dan Campbell. Who knows
more about Jared Goff. I think a quarterback can evolve.
I think they can change. I understand the relationship was
bad in LA with the Rams, but I think we
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need to stop holding Jared Goff. What happened in Los
Angeles that I don't know three years ago.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I don't think Doug is I think what Doug is
saying is like the interception last night that he threw
was in the fourth quarter, is just one of those
things that is tough to get out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And I think that's the that's the point of it.
And my only pushback on that would be is I
just think every team in the NFL has a wart somewhere,
and I'm not saying that Jared Goff is a wart,
but just we don't know. There's there's nothing dominant about
teams in the NFL like the Chiefs, for as great
as they are needed, Isaiah Likely's toe to be out
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of bounds, you know, to win that Thursday night opener,
and we were raving about the Chiefs and how they
looked and they still needed a tow. But you're still
talking about two top teams in that conference playing. I
think that's what we got last night. You know, nobody's perfect,
but when it comes down to it, when the when
the lines need to win. That's what made me most
impressive is they got the ball with these overtime rules
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and just ran it down the rams throats so and
that's so difficult to game plan against it. By the way,
it may be why they may be in a few
more closer games than maybe others. But I do think
that they have the offense that can't explode. But I
get it, I completely get it from your perspective. I
just think that there are other teams that also have
kind of those blemishes that are easier to over.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I agree with you on the blemishes, and we're gonna
see the Niners tonight. I'm not convinced that brock Perty
is all that great, right, they have more playmakers around him, maybe,
and you know, and maybe so that's why. But end
of the day, what told me back from saying that
Niner's gonna win Super Bowl is like again, we've seen
the Chiefs, a highly flawed team and even a quarterback
that can. I mean, my homes kind of it the
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other night with that interception. But if your quarterback figures
it out and your quarterback's your best play, you're better
off than if it's an ensemble cast and your quarterback
can hold you back. So am I holding LA against him? Maybe?
But it's it's more that interception other things. I've seen
my own person option of it. I just I just
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wonder if if Jared Goff win, that thing gets hot,
if he's going who which which Jared Goff He's going
to be? I think we got to get to the
story up coming next.
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that we see from bands are totally transparent. We act
like Texas beat last year's Michigan squad, Like most of
our team graduated, quarterback graduated, coach left, they're on probation.
Texas is good. Texas didn't win in the national semifinals
last year. Exis wins great, But you act like you
beat last year's Michigan team and you didn't. I don't
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really understand that one. Look, we don't. Today's not really
a time to talk college football. Week three college football
or week two whatever plus week zero. But I was
thinking about this watching Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame. The
last second kick was Imagine if Notre Dame had lost
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in a close game the last second kick to A
and M and beaten the tar out of NIU. How
would you have felt then? Right? Which would have been
really interesting?
Speaker 11 (19:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You were an underdog at A and M, and you
were a big favorite against that IU. But the craziness
of college football was on full display. Iowa States comeback
win over Iowa. Sorry Iowa. Sam's who was there vacationing
or visiting. We saw a couple other ones that were
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in interesting. I don't know why NC State was ranked.
It was like, let's just rank an acc team randomly,
and Tennessee went down there and beat the crap out
of him, and then Nebraska, I mean, twenty eight to
ten does not do it justice. That game was over
at the half, it was twenty eight to nothing, and
it was one of those Colorado's really not good. I
think Nebraska is pretty good. And I'll say this about
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Dylan Royola, who's the freshman quarterback who's basically doing at
Patrick Mahomes in look and actions whatever. There's a lot
worse guys in the world that you can emulate than
arguably the best quarterback we've ever seen play. The sport
doesn't bother me. Let's get to love and hate, shall we?
Speaker 9 (20:40):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
These player haters? Okay, we go around the room every
day we try and find out what people love, what
people hated for the weekend. Let's start with you there,
Dan Byer, So you're more of a longer than Jason Sewartz,
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the hater.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I actually was going to just ask for a little
time because there's a piece of audio that I was
just trying to search for.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I fine, let's go to let's go to Chris Prefet.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Chris, Oh, I actually have a pretty good one here,
and I think I've got my sound keyed up for this.
So you touched on it a little bit before. But
let me just I want to like rine back back.
I grew up in Toledo, Ohio, which besides Ohio State
and Michigan football, meant Toledo Rockets football, which went the MAC,
the Mid American Conference, And every year I would always
dread when the Toledo had to play the Northern Illinois Huskies.
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That is a tough football team. They've been tough for
a really long time. And always felt like, oh man,
they're going to ruin someone's season before too long. Well,
and I you went and did exactly that on Saturday,
going out and taking on Notre Dame, going into South
Bend when Notre Dame looked like they had probably the
clearest path after beating Texas A and m too getting
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to the playoffs, and you trip up over the mackets
and I use first wine ever over a top ten
ranks team, your top five for Notre Dame's case and
their current coach, Thomas Hammock he was. He's an alum
of the football program. He was the running backs coach
of the Baltimore Ravens before being hired about four years ago.
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Here he was after the game being asked by NBC,
what this moment felt like?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It's deep for you?
Speaker 12 (22:30):
Why?
Speaker 10 (22:31):
Yeah, I'm so proved about kids, the coaches, because everybody
they believe, they believe we came here, I got it gone.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
You told your guys this week that you didn't need
anyone to be a superhero or superhuman.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
They just needed to be their best.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
What kind of performances did you see out there?
Speaker 10 (22:58):
They listen't going off said? I told them all week
we don't need luck. We just got to be our best,
and there was the best today and we were able
to get it done.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Where's this emotion coming from for you?
Speaker 10 (23:14):
You know all these guys that Ben went off program,
Ben through the ups and downs and to continue to fight.
You know, I'm like they my kids. I'm happy for
the adversity to push through, you know, no matter the situation.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah, overwhelming with it. The locker room celebration is something
I love. What I saw to Thomas Hammock and the
Northern Illinois Huskies maction really on display on Saturday in
South Bends.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Love the story, Dan Byer, all Right, Doug, I got
my audio set up, and while it would be easy
to say Seahawks win first win of the Mike McDonald era,
would be the big thing that I loved, or Marshall
Lynch going up to the head coach during the game
and talking to him. It was actually something that I
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missed because I was doing my show with Kerry Rhoades
yesterday during the broadcast. This was Adam Marceletta on CBS
as bow Nicks was dropping back to pass for the
Denver Broncos in the second half of that game.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
I have thirty five left, they're down thirteen Knicks. Oh no,
has ltd by T intercepted, picked off by Lollan. Second
interception throwed by the rookie Knicks.
Speaker 14 (24:34):
He's just trying to do too much and hit the
crossing route. But you're gonna see when he decides to let.
Speaker 13 (24:40):
This ball go.
Speaker 14 (24:41):
There's three Seattle defenders. You have Roland chasing him. You
had the linebacker underneath.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You get the point, but the oh no during the call.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I didn't get a chance to hear a lot of
Tom Brady yesterday, but if on any throw he would
have said oh no by Deshaun Watson or Dak Prescot
that was going to end up end up in the
hands of the defenders, I think we would be giving
rave reviews to Tom Brady for that because Adam march
a lotta saw it as it was happening. Uh, just
a great moment yesterday.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
This is one of my favorites. First of all, all
time great dude, like literally all time great dude. And
I think a brilliant broadcasters sometime. You know, he just
doesn't have as big a name, but as a safety,
he'd be able to see everything that's coming. Is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, you have thought I feel about boat Necks.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
By the way, I was never big on boat Nicks.
I don't really get it.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Game one.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Game one. I think it'll be fine, but as far
as like an elite quarterback, I never saw it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
By the way, I just want to play it one
more time now that we know what I'm talking about.
Listen to like how soon he says oh no, thirty five.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
Left, they're down thirteen knicks.
Speaker 15 (25:49):
Oh no, before Spiadida says has all they knew that. Yeah,
this was not good, and he's right, there were three
Seahawks in the area.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, but yeah, love that.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Okay, let me go to Jason Stewart what he got.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
I'm not a religious guy. I'm not even very spiritual,
but I do believe in karma. I believe that what
you put out into the world, you're gonna get back,
positive and negative. So every time Deshaun Watson gets a
beat down, I love it. Like I was so joyful
watching the Cowboys utterly destroy him yesterday, making him feel
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pain all day. I want to point out two tweets
I think two people won Twitter yesterday, both having to
do with Deshaun Watson. At Barry on here very funny
Twitter follow, he says, Deshaun Watson might be a terrible person,
but he's also a terrible quarterback and that's what really matters.
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That was only outdone by this Tweetson is getting abused.
If he asked the Cowboys to stop, they should force
him against his will to be assaulted. Then when he
leaves the field in tears, they should send him a
text message reading, sorry about you feeling uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
That's really good stuff. That's really good stuff. You did
what I love for the weekend?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Who sent that?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Who said that the tweet?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
No, that was me.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That was Jason Stewart at Jason Stewart on.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
X, at Jason Stewart on X anymore? Before I get
to go, go ahead, Doug, Okay, do you guys you
didn't realize what I was gonna love, right? I mean,
I thought Sam Darno was nineteen of twenty four. He
did have a pick nineteen of twenty four. Now, part
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of it is I think the Giants might be the
worst team in football, but yeah, he was amazing. I
was so happy for the guy. He's just got such
good weapons there. He doesn't have to overdo it, you know.
I mean you looking and with Aaron Jones going for
ninety four yards, but also Aaron Jones being an out
of backfield threat, justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and Oliver and
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Chandler like they got a squad of guys from a
throw to I just you know again, I've been a
fan of Sam Donald, hoped he would live up to
his lofty billing. I don't think he ever will, but
I was really happy that he had a great day
against a really bad team to get a start season started.
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
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So much to dig into Jason Stewart, you're really good
at this.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
What he got, Doug. Everyone knows who's been listening to
the show and the podcast that I can't stand Tony
Romo as a broadcaster. I had a unique view last yesterday,
so there was a double box on my YouTube TV,
one being the local Charger game with Tony Romo and
Jim Nance, the other one being Tom Brady's debut as
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a broadcaster on the other. Now, YouTube TV allows you
to obviously highlight one of them that you listen to,
so I mostly listened to the Brady debut, but every
time I tuned into the Chargers game, Tony Romo only
affirmed my opinion of him that he's awful on the
air and he's like nails screeching a chalkboard. I wanted
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to play this for our listeners because it's very apropos
This is Dreue Bledsoe and maybe Bayer knows the answer
to this. I think Bledsoe was interviewed for a feature
on Tony Romo and it was on Brady. I thought
within that feature he said this during an interview in Dallas.
Speaker 11 (29:38):
Parcels made the decision to yank me at halftime of
a game and throw Romo in there. Really didn't agree
with that one. If you're watching this, Romo, you know
this is true. The minute that he became the starter,
he became pretty big in his own mind, and he
was no longer the curious and inquisitive guy where that
was the difference between him and Tommy. Tommy became the starter,
he still was asking all the questions, where all of
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a sudden, Romo was the guy that had all the answers.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I think that's apropos for this broadcasting thing too. Romo
has been bad for years, and he's obviously not taken
any teaching or guidance because he's still bad. I think
Brady is going to listen. I think he's going to learn.
Tom Brady had a rough day yesterday, But I'm not
going to make any conclusions yet. Did you guys have
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any takeaway from the Brady experience.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I just thought he sounded like a guy who hadn't
done a game and somebody who's been overly coached and
he didn't know when to end his sentences, and that
would happen to me very early on in my career.
And also first game of the year takes a while
to get your rhythm going. And so, I mean, I
think there's some good things he said there. I just
he's definitely playing it a little too close to the
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vest I think that'll listen up, and he's trying to
be an announcer instead of just talking about football.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, I agree with that one. There was a part.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Of the game that I did see just prior to
our show where the Browns had a like a fourth
and two or something and they were lining up for it,
and you could tell that Kevin Burkhart was giving him
room to say something, and at that point he didn't
take advantage of it to your point of he you
want him to say? What a quarterback would be thinking?
What are you thinking if you're Deshaun Watson? What are
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you looking at? What information is going on within that
triangle of you and the head coach and the coordinator
and whoever of making that decision to go for it
or kick a field goal or punt, and I think
they ended up punting in that scenario. But you could
tell that Burkhart was trying to give him some rooms,
some space to say something, and Brady didn't say anything
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at that point, and then when he finally did, it
was a bit of a cliche.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
But yeah, that'll come with time.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Not easy.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Your first show is always your worst.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Correct, very very true, Profet.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
All right, I think we hit on the Browns. Let
me let me pivot a little bit. I know people
like to think the best about technology out there, that
it brings new, cool and interesting things. But in the
case of what we are calling artificial intelligence, it can't
do the things people are saying it can do. For example,
ESPN announced before the weekend that they were going to
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introduce a artificial intelligence writing to several of their quote
underserved sports like the National Women's Soccer League and Premier
League Lacrosse. It just so happened this weekend was also
the last professional soccer game of Alex Morgan's career. Alex Morgan,
legendary US women's soccer player, announcing a retirement. She's pregnant
with a second kid on the way as well. It
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was her last game with the San Diego Wave and
this was the first chance for ESPN's AI program to
come out and show what it had. Now AI programs
like this, we got to be clear. They don't actually
write articles. They take pieces and guess and think what
is appropriate to write about. They can't actually write about it.
So when the article came out about the San Diego
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Waves game on Sunday, there was no mention whatsoever about
this being Alex Morgan's last game, nothing about her performance.
She was absent from the article entirely. ESPN eventually went in,
sent in another writer to write another article, and even
corrected the AI article. But this is just flat out
embarrassing considering how much they probably are paying for artificial intelligence.
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If you can't put a writer, a real writer who
can actually like make deductions about what is important and
write a story, don't put a program on it. It's
worse than not even writing anything at all. It was embarrassing,
absolutely embarrassing for an organization that claims that it's covering
sports as a journalism outlet. It's malpractice to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Good. I like that all.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Right, byer, did you go yet?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I didn't it was going to be a very self
serving one and one that's a little bit, you know, backhanded.
Remember on the Gambler on Friday, I gave you guys
a pick. Then the pick was to take New England
because I just did not like where Cincinnati was. This
was New England with the points. Did I think they
were going to win outright? No, but they were more
than a touchdown dog at that point, and I just
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didn't like the vibes coming out of Cincinnati. The only
problem with what I said Friday, Doug was on the
podcast that I record with Mike Harmon I Want Your Flex,
that we dropped Thursday night. I actually gave Cincinnati out
as the most likely survivor pick if you were to go.
But I just had such a change of hearts when
I woke up the next morning that I left that
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information out there. So I while I got the Patriots
one right, Yeah, well I got the Patriots one right
on Friday. I was with a lot of people on
Thursday with the Bengals as a survivor pick. I also
gave a seattle which ended up working, and I took
the commanders in a pool and ended up hitting but
Well and the Bucks. Yeah, yeah, excuse me, the Bucks. Yeah,
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not the Commanders. Yeah, the Bucks in that scenario which
ended up hitting. But yeah, I just wish I would
keep my mouth shut sometimes because it was just so
clear as day that the Bengals just have their minds
on other things and that's money.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, complete distractions.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I did not realize that either, because I picked them
my survivor pool. I did not survive.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I was gonna pull thirty four percent of the entries
had the Bengals in, and at one point the Dolphins
were losing big to the Jaguars, the Bears were down
to the Titans. You would have survivor pools that were
to have had fifty percent wiped out in the first
window of Sunday, But then Dolphins rallied and the Bears
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defense obviously came to the rescue.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's my hate.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I hate Nick Sirianni. I can't stand him. He's such
an incredible dB. It's unbelievable, like he just can't help himself.
I don't know, Yeah, I agree, I just what are
we doing like we have We've had athletes that do that,
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you know, most of the NBA players that just and
we just get worn out by him and they move
from team team. This guy's coaching one of the best
teams in the NFL, and he's just every game, every
shot to the sideline. There's very little likable about him.
Can't stand him, nobody won. So I hate that even worse.
And that's love and hate for the weekend Stug gott
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to t j'sman zad Up momentarily. So I mean, I
don't think anybody thinks it was normal or not weird
to have Tyreek Hill cuffed and face down on the
pavement outside of where the Dolphins play was at hard
Rock Stadium, and then Kalaias Campbell got stuffed got cuffed
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as well, And look, I think what happens is we
all get up on our high horse and we all,
you know, for whatever reason, this becomes some political issue
where guys go to their sides and echoes of Colin
Kaepernick in the past. And I mean, if you have
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body can put it, it just gonna tell us all we
need to know. And we still may not agree, but
my guess is it's somewhere in between. The cop was
just in a hole and Tyreek Hill was an a hole.
If you listen to the cops are like, look, he
didn't want to comply, then he would send the curb,
so he put him on face down and we cuffed him.
(38:23):
Listen to Tyreek Hill, He's like, they just went crazy
on me. So I mean, I'm not an idiot. Like,
we sit there and it's Tyreek Hill pulling into the
Dolphins game. This is not that hard, hey, Tyreek Amen,
slow it down, Amen, keep it on the road, and
then stay off your phone. Not the pullover and get
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out of the car. Although Tyreek Hill wouldn't put down
the window all the way, but you can see that
in the video. They asked to put it down your window.
You don't crack your window. You put it all the
way down, and you can sit here and go like,
I'm Tyreek Hill, I'm not hiding anything. But then why
would you ever win just barely crack down? You have
tinted windows, which I don't care about, but why do
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they not want you to have ten and windows so
they can see what you're doing inside your car, because
lots of people in their car keep a firearm in
their car. So this is not me defending the police.
It's defending the idea that if I'm a cop and
I pull somebody over and they're in a really nice
car and they don't want to put their window down
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and they don't want to comply with me, are they
hiding something? Now? Most of us can sit there and
go like, hey man, let's Tyree kill like maybe he's
hiding a football. I don't know, but I would just
I would just say, just patients the truth to come out.
And I don't think putting the officer on leave in
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any way indicts the officer. It looks bad right now
to somebody not paying attention, But this is an incident
called the question. Easiest thing to do is take them
off the street, put them behind a desk. You know,
it happened to Murtog all the time, breaks the Murchag
all the time when they were lead the weapon. It's
Doug Gottlie Joe Clock Sports Radio. Let's welcome him in.
He's former pro bowler t Josh Benzana joining us and
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it's your team. So let's let's let's ask the first question.
They killed me in my survivor pool, what they'll happened
with the Bengals yesterday?
Speaker 12 (40:16):
Man, isn't it Isn't it natural? You know, after week
one we overreact to everything, and I'm overreacting. I just
don't understand. As bad as the Patriots looked in the preseason,
could barely get a first down, could barely move the ball,
(40:37):
we got one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
one of the best receivers, a better offensive line. We
scored ten points. We scored ten points against the Patriots,
and they ran the ball I believe, like one hundred
and seventy yards, Like it was shocking. And then I
had to do some research and I was like, wait,
(40:57):
what is Joe Burrow is like one in eight in
the first two weeks of the season to start his career,
and so I'm I'm hoping he's just a slow starter
and a strong finisher. But these slow starts are killing
us because now you're playing a much better defense, a
much better offense. In Week two against the Chiefs will
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be better, but it's gonna be a tough task.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
It's gonna be a really really tough task, really tough task.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Since I was my boy Tyers Thomas was at my house.
Were watching the game. We're like, can you believe the
Lions are actually good? But it does feel like the
Rams sort of gave one away with bad poor clock
management late. What were your thoughts on Rams Lions?
Speaker 12 (41:44):
I felt like the Rams Lions games, it was back
and forth, really really really good game. I thought it
like the Lions are just one of those teams man,
they were always at the bottom. They're always laughed at.
They're for real. The Sean McVay bro is a fantastic coach.
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They literally had the game right there in their hands.
Obviously it slipped away, but you got to give the
Lions credit. Man. In overtime they said, you know, we're
gonna play bully ball. We're gonna play bullyball. We're gonna
use this high priced offensive line. And I believe it
was eight plays in overtime. Seven of them were run plays.
(42:32):
They just bullied them. Run run, run, run, run, run, run, run, touchdown,
game over. And so when the Lions decide that's how
they want to play football, it's gonna be hard to
beat them because their best offensive weapon, I'm and ros
Saint Brown, didn't have much of an impact in that game.
And so if you're an opponent of the Lions moving forward,
it's like, whoa, I'm Andraw didn't really get off and
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they won the game. Jamison william Is looking like the
Jamison Williams they thought they were drafting out Obama. The
lines are going.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
To be for real, okay, sit, I mean that had
to be your dream though. Cooper flag they threw them.
Uh see Cooper Cup. They threw him twenty one times,
twenty one targets. It's amazing. That's like every wide receiver's dream.
How many guys are sitting there on their couch going
like that could be me.
Speaker 12 (43:20):
Every receiver in the league is saying Cooper Cup is
lucky the Rams can. The Rams won't many win many
games if that's how they're going to approach it. When
one player is getting twenty one targets, which is almost
fifty percent of your throws, you're passing player, I just
don't see how that's sustainable. Obviously Pooka going out plays
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a role in that, but you have to be able
to get other guys involved. It's almost making it too
obvious that we know you want to get it to
Cooper Cup, but twenty one attempts. I don't know how
many guys get that in the career, and I guarantee
Cooper Cup has had that probably more than two or
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three four times. And so I think the Rams need
to try to get other guys involved. With Pookah going down,
I'm sure played a part in that.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, no question about that one. What do we do
with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 12 (44:19):
Doug when when I first got on, I said, we
have a tendency to overreact. I'm officially overreacting to Deshaun Watson.
I think he's washing. I don't know if he can
still play at that level that we saw with the
Houston Texas. I'm into Shaun Watson's corner. I believe when
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you take those years off, those two years he didn't play,
it's hard to get back into it. Not from a
physical perspective, it's a mental perspective. It's a timing perspective.
It's getting your body and your eyes. I say this
all the time. It's getting your eyes used to the
speed of the game. That's the hardest thing to do
when you're because getting your eye used to the speed
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of the game. And granted you have two offensive linemen down,
I'll you playing against one of the better pass rushing
teams in the league, Mike Zimmer, who has a point
to prove as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But man, is just bad.
Speaker 12 (45:19):
It's bad. It's like you can't there's no more excuses.
You know it. Now you should be settled in now,
your body should be ready to go, and when you
should be an asset. He seems to be a liability
right now. I'll give to Shaun Watson. Honestly, I don't know.
I said he's watched earlier. If I'm a that's just
(45:41):
an overreaction statement. I'm gonna give to Shaun Watson five
to six games. And if he's not the DeShawn Watson
that we saw in Houston, it's ober.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
He hasn't been the Shawn Watson we saw in Houston
in a long time. But we'll we'll, we'll defin only
definitely check it out. Okay, what's your reaction to the
Dak Prescott contract, which we were told he was going
to play out the year and then all of a sudden, Yeah,
I know he's gonna be the Cowboys for the next
couple of years.
Speaker 12 (46:13):
I wouldn't have done it if I'm the Cowboys. I'm
not giving Dak Prescott sixty million. I'm not doing it
under any circumstance. But we're here and he's received sixty million.
Shout out to uh Todd France and Athletes first man.
They always seem away find a way to get it
done for that client. Shout out to them now, Doug
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Mike McCarthy is underrated.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Bro.
Speaker 12 (46:39):
Mike McCarthy is underrated as a head coach and play caller,
and I just realized that Mike McCarthy is really good
and people gloss over it and they he's underappreciated because
Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers greatness and the way he
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just carved up that Cleveland d Jim Schwartz is one
of the better defensive coordinators in the league. Mike McCarthy
and the Cowboys had a perfect plan and carved him up,
and so moving like he's a top five coach. I
don't know who comes out, but Mike McCarthy is a
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really good head coach because nobody did that. Nobody does
that to the Cleveland Browns defense, not since Jim Schwartz
has been there. They may have a bad game here,
they got carved up. And so I'm gonna give Mike
McCarthy a ton of credit for the plan that he
put together. But if I'm Jerry Jones and the Cowboys,
I'm not giving Dak Prescott sixty million. Dak Prescott is
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a really good quarterback, but when you need him in
the biggest of moments in the playoffs, he hasn't been
able to do it, and so I know what I'm
gonna get. I'm gonna make him the highest paid player
in the national football in the history of the game
by a wide margin. I can't do that. I can't
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do that knowing what I'm gonna get, or should I say,
assuming what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
TJ just Bensis our guest, two time Pro bowler of course,
longtime wide receiver with the CINCINNTI Bengals, n if A
analyst and the wide receiver guru for all these guys
in the offseason when they want to get better, they
come and see who Pittsburgh gets a road win. Is
it sustainable playing the way they're playing.
Speaker 12 (48:32):
That's how they've always played since Big Band is retired.
Played good, defenseless, just don't turn the ball over and
give us a chance. Six field goals won the game.
Like it isn't sustainable when you play, when you play
a team that offensively is going to put pressure on you,
that isn't sustainable. You're not gonna be able to do that.
Kirk Cousins didn't have a great game through so interceptions
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and they both were costly. It's like, wait, oh, well, Kirk,
what are we doing so I don't believe it's sustainable,
but that is how Mike Tomlin has played football since
Ben is retired. Let's play great defense, all their resources
on the defensive side of the ball. George Pickens and
Shustin Fields made enough places. I felt like one of
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the bigger plays in the game was just before halftime
when Justin rolled out to the left and through the
corner or what if you call it a high corner
route back to George Pickens and they were able to
get a field But I thought that was a huge
play in the game, considering they really didn't have many
options but to get a chunk play and so you
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know they had a lapse. So I think the Falcons
defense they just I don't know what happened on that play,
But no, I don't believe it's sustainable. But Mike Tomlin
has never had a losing season for a reason. The
interesting question will be when Russ is healthy, what happens
if they continue to win but it's not because of
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the offense that happened. Do they stay with Jessin Fields,
do they go to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
It's a great question. I don't know what the answers
that is, but I don't because I don't think Russell
Wilson is that much better. Can he get the ball
to guys? Yeah, but he holds a long time and
he doesn't have the dynamic of being an athlete anymore.
So we'll we'll see last last one. Who's do you
consider benching Bryce Young? It's only one game in, but
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we do have all of last year.
Speaker 12 (50:29):
I can't bench right. But like, if you go back
to the days of Ricky's wouldn't they wouldn't play, they
would sit. He played as a Ricky got beat down
physically more importantly mentally, Bryce shung And this is no disrespect.
He's not playing what top of the line receivers he isn't.
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Jamar Chase doesn't practice all the training camp. T Higgins
doesn't play. Joe Brow's one of the best quarterbacks in
the league. Did he look at yesterday?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Nope?
Speaker 12 (51:04):
No, Like the quarterbacks matter a ton, but boy, I
tell you them, receivers that can create separation get open.
It don't matter who's garden them. They matter. Also, Shun
doesn't have that. He doesn't have that. Then obviously his
players played a part in this. But I'm not benching
he no, because I want to see if you bench him,
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the guy that you bring in is one Andy Dalk.
He's not your future. Can he do much better? Can
he get it to the playoffs? Other answer is no,
So let's see what Bryce Sean can do. I think
for Bryce, his biggest thing is he has to stay
locked in mentally. What I mean by that is, Doug,
when everything is going great, you coach, you a basketball
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coach man. When you guys go on a fifteen game
win streak, everybody in that locker room is gonna they're
gonna feel like every game we play, we're gonna win.
When you go on a fifteen game Bluton Street not win.
If that was to take place, everybody's going to have doubt.
Bryce Sean has to erase that doubt because he has doubt.
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Bryce Sean was a winner at every level of football
until now. I'm sure he has so much doubt that
it's probably messing with his mental He has to get
rid of that. But I'm not benching because I don't
know if I have anything better. And aside from that,
he doesn't have these top flight receivers that he's throwing
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the ball to. And so who's going to do any
better that That would be my thinking as a coach.
Who is going to be better than Bryce Seank And
the answer would be nobody.
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Man?
Speaker 1 (52:55):
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Speaker 12 (52:58):
I go, I appreciate it. Keep up to great work man,
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you're a Lion fan. I mean, think about what we
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Not necessarily for everybody, but there was some college football
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stuff that was like things. I never thought I would
see Illinois rushing the field after beating Kansas. I didn't
know I would. What's the phrase that you hate, Chase
Dow I did not have that one on my bingo card,
not at all. There's also Jordan Love on Friday Night
losing was inaccurate in the third quarter, Like third quarter
(02:15):
game was there to be won. He was inaccurate. Then
he gets hurt late in the game, late in a
close game. He gets hurt. It looks like a high
ankle sprain. His neee did pop, but it did not
tear anything. He's out four to six weeks like that happened.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That happened.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I don't think we'll have a chance to get to
the fact that the Bears won in spite of not
because of the number one overall picking the draft. Matter
of fact, all the young quarterbacks generally look like rookie quarterbacks.
Were so used to them coming in and looking good
early and then maybe regressing towards me. None of them
look good, none of them. I'm sure Buyer is gonna
(02:57):
try and get us into some uniform discussion, which we should,
because Seattle won the day with those uniforms. Fair dan
byers that, like, I have no problem. I've also kind
of come around on I don't actually like those those
powder blue and the yellow pants with the Chargers. I don't.
I don't know what it is. It's just it feels
like too much color, too much.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The Lions like good in their uniforms, but uh, it
was only trumped by that overtime drive.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My goodness.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh man, Now they've changed the Honolulu blue. That's a
different shade of blue than I'm used to. But I
think here's the thing about about the Lions, and I'll
credit one of the guys on my staff. Tyris Thomas
Tyres course number eight pick of the draft. He was
at my house raving dinner like he's like, and I said,
I can't believe the Lions are on Sunday Night football
(03:52):
first week and the season and it's where where everybody's
okay with it because they're actually good. And he said,
this is the first time in my life the Lions
have been good. And I was thinking to him, like,
there have been times in which, you know, they made
the playoffs a couple times. I know Stafford made the playoffs, whatever,
but nobody thought they were actually a good football team,
even when they had Barry Sanders. And I think all
(04:13):
of us can attest to it. We were always like
Barry's great, but like they don't have much else. They
don't have much else. I'm trying to think. And Damikin
Sue is like the only defensive player I think I
can name from the Lions in the last twenty twenty
five years. And I know, Chris Profector, you're a Detroit guy.
You can probably go about one hundred names deep. But
I'm telling you nationally, like, if we go and think
(04:36):
about it, how many big time defensive players they actually
had no.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I think in the history. The only one besides Sue
that comes close is probably Darius Slay and at this
point he's kind of becoming a little bit known more
as an Eagles player, not just a Lions guy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's crazy, though, right to follow U to follow football, Okay,
to follow football this long for forty years, and to
go like, yeah, I got like two guys and they're
both recent. Here's Dan Campbell. Here's Dan Campbell summing up
to win.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
The ones say that that can just play basic football
the best man that you know, the blocking, the tackling, targeting, communication,
taking care of the football, being smart with it to
check down. It's they win.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's it. And I would conclude that the hardest part
of to teach a team, Hey, the hardest thing to
teach a team is how to win. And and again,
like we could even think about last year in the
NFC Championship game, they had a lead and I thought
Dan Campbell's decision making wasn't good and I can't necessarily
(05:48):
pick it apart yesterday whereas I felt like the Rams
probably could have used more clock put themselves in a
better position. But whatever, it's a super competitive game. Dan
Campbell has taught them how to win, and he's taught
them how to win with his opening speech which everybody
made fun of, which was teaching them to never stop competing.
Because he never stopped competing. You're gonna win more of
(06:09):
than most. Here's Campbell on how tough Matt Stafford is.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Stafford man, you know he It's almost like you don't
want to hit him because I think when he hit
him he plays better, and you know, he just he
just continued to make plays.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Here's Sean McVay on his aggressive mentality.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
We came in here with an aggressive mindset of mentality.
Didn't feel like you could settle for field goals. That's
why we came up short the last time. And then
ultimately a couple of those situations is inevitably what ended
up leading to us probably not finishing it out tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, probably probably. I mean, look, Pooka Nukula gets hurt,
You're on the road, the Lions are good. Probably could
have done a better job of managing time and score
and situation, and also, like not this is their first
game in forever. With that, Aaron Donald, So your defense
(07:03):
is trying to figure out leadership and pecking order as
well as pass and run, block and run stopping. So
I don't think it was bad for the Rams, but
I do think the fact that the Lions won and
that there's no freak out, it doesn't feel like it
wasn't an upset. It was supposed to be. And like
all of that is the one to eighty that's happened
(07:26):
since Dan Campbell took over, and that's remarkable because there
have been so many quality coaches that have gotten opportunities
and no one's been able to do that where you
don't turn on the Lions game thinking something crazy bad
is going to happen, something that we're going to laugh at,
and then it's not just to make them competitive, but
make them able to win those games. That's a huge step.
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(08:12):
have you guys seen the new Buicks. Have you seen them? No,
there's like a new Buick little suv. It's nice, It's
really nice. And my dad had a Buick in the
late eighties. You got a Buick Regal unlimited. I always
thought it should have been limited, but apparently it was unlimited.
(08:32):
And we all have in our mind what we think
of Buicks. But trying to convince us like, hey, that's
a viable options are really well made cars, nice America made.
Like you know, you end up talking yourself out of things.
You're like, well it's American maid, like, not realizing all
of the foreign cars. Their SUVs are made in the
States anyway, right, Mercedes, BMW, you know, Infinity, They're all
(08:56):
made the States. Like sitting there going like, ah, foreign
made cars, that's an America may car. But to get
to that point to where the brand recognition is that
of a positive is remarkable. Yes, Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So what I think is interesting about the Lions is
part of their history and part of what Dan Campbell is.
And I don't want to put words in Chris Purfett's mouth,
but I feel if he says this, it sounds bias.
And I'm more of a neutral party on this, but
they resemble who Dan Campbell is. But it's more than that,
(09:31):
it's they resemble who Dan Campbell is when the rest
of the league is trying to throw the football all
around the yard and it makes the forty nine ers
difficult in trying to stop. And we'll find out if
they can continue that run tonight. But they are so physical,
and it was pointed out many times last night by
collins Worth in Tarico on the broadcast on how it's
(09:54):
weak one. These guys are gassed and Detroit just in
the end impose their will on the ram by just
running the football down in that final drive. But it's
also an organization that I thought for a while when
you talk about those bad years, Doug, we're talking about
misses on first round picks. You know, it wasn't too
long ago they took you know, Jeff Akuda with the
first round pick. But we're talking about Charles Rogers. We're
(10:16):
talking about drafting all these wide receivers. Now look at
what they've done. You know, Aiden Hutchinson hit, Jamier Gibbs
sure feels like a hit. Who else am I missing?
Like they've pine Sewell, that's the biggest one of all
because when the Bengals took Jamar Chase, everybody said, uh,
you know, the Bengals needed offensive lineman, but they ended
(10:38):
up going with the wide receiver. And then Chase is
the awesome rookie season and the Bengals go to the
Super Bowl and it's like, see, this is why you
don't take an offensive lineman. But now Pane Sewel is
like the best offensive lineman in the National Football League,
at least the best young offensive lineman. So you talk
about that building of it, and they're just a team
that you don't necessarily want to play, and it's pretty
amazing because of how good they are, Like there's no
(10:59):
fluke about this at all, and that's what makes the
Lions great.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Jay s dou what was your level of interest in
that game Sunday Night Rams Lions.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I was into it. I liked it a lot, had
some fantasy interest, and but no, I liked it a lot.
I think one thing that we kind of do need
to mention, and I saw this tweeted out by Bernie Fratto,
Stafford's iron t in the end zone to end the
first half. I mean that that was huge. I think
McVeigh they had a three point lead with four minutes left.
(11:37):
They didn't They didn't force the Lions to use any timeouts.
They threw the ball three times Karen Williams ran out
of bounds to stop the clock. As much as it
was a Lions victory, I think they were very much
helped out by mcveigh's aggression at the end of the
game and Stafford's decision at the end of that first
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half as well.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Uh yeah, I thought Stafford's throw at the end of
the first half was awful. It really really was bad,
and you have to come away with points in that
in that situation, have to come away with points. I
was really into the game as well. I don't know
if the Lions are top of the league, but I
do think that Dan Campbell's style and the overall talent
(12:20):
that they have, I think that's a clear playoff team.
I don't know if it's a Super Bowl team.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
I just.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I don't know, but I think the fact that they've
flipped the league to believing in them is nothing short
of miraculous.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
What do you think they're missing?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Then?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
If you don't think they're a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, I mean, listen jameson Williams and that catching touchdown
on the stop and go is amazing. I think you
know the narrative out of Detroit profet you could speak
to this is James Williams really immature, didn't have a
good year. There was thoughts that maybe he's a bust
if he can be anywhere near the talent he was
before the injury and a consistent one. I think that's
(13:05):
the type of explosive playmaker they need, just explosive playmakers,
because my thing is I'm just not a golf guy.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I think you got the preview of like I know
from camp all Ben Johnson, their offensive coordinator who's been
you know, picked for wanting to be a head coach.
All he talked about was Jamison Williams and how they're
gonna use him, And that was a preview of it.
Like last year we saw Jamison Williams on some those
deep routes you talked about. But they're using Jamison Williams
in every phase of the game now, in these end
to rounds and all this kind of stuff, and it's
(13:33):
adding another value, especially as you're seeing teams like a'm
on Ross. Saint Brown was quiet in that game because
the Rams are just they know they have to shut
down Aman Ross Saint Brown because that's who Goff's going to.
And instead the line showed like, no, we've got they
have Jamison Williams as well, and they've got Sam Laporte
as well. This is an offense with a lot of
different weapons. I didn't even think they played that well.
I think the Rams playing against them perfectly out of
(13:55):
the gate. But Jamison Williams, if he can put a
couple more games together like this, I don't think there's
any question to him at this point.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
If, if, if he has that consistently in him, that
would change because I'm just I just don't. I don't
love golf. It's really what have kind of come down to,
you know. And I know that some of it is
when guys don't believe in you, you're not going to
believe in yourself. But I had enough people with the
Rams were like, look, he just wouldn't let the ball go,
like wouldn't. I wouldn't push it down the field, like
(14:26):
just wouldn't. He's just too matt ryany and and I
understand sometimes you can you can be done with the
guy when he's not really done, But I just I
got to see it for a substantial amount of time,
and not the not throwing interceptions thing. I need to
see you take a couple of chances through.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You know, I think he's shown some of it. He's
shown some of it last year. But also to like,
I understand LA has a vision of golf. But from
the Michigan side, I've gone to a lot of different
events in Michigan and every sporting events, fans are chanting
NonStop Jared Goff, Jared Goff at Michigan games, at Red
Wings games.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm not talking about the fans, but this is just
an energy and support getting that he's just not doing.
Do we know more than Sean McVay.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, But I also thinkhip was this guy's not good
enough to get back to another super Bowl. Now you
can make the wrong decision as a coach. I totally
get that. But my point is, like, I don't care
how fans feel, I care about how the actual lion
Ben Johnson in that room actually feels. Do they think
they can dial up some explosives and he'll take advantage
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of it.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson certainly have believed in
Jared Goff, They've been given plenty of chances to talk
against it, and they this is a lion's organization that's
backs into the hillt like. So, I guess this is
turning into a Sean McVay versus Dan Campbell. Who knows
more about Jared Goff. I think a quarterback can evolve.
I think they can change. I understand the relationship was
bad in LA with the Rams, but I think we
(15:58):
need to stop holding Jared Goff. What happened in Los
Angeles that I don't know three years ago.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I don't think Doug is I think what Doug is
saying is like the interception last night that he threw
was in the fourth quarter, is just one of those
things that is tough to get out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And I think that's the that's the point of it.
And my only pushback on that would be is I
just think every team in the NFL has a wart somewhere,
and I'm not saying that Jared Goff is a wart,
but just we don't know. There's there's nothing dominant about
teams in the NFL like the Chiefs, for as great
as they are needed, Isaiah Likely's toe to be out
(16:36):
of bounds, you know, to win that Thursday night opener,
and we were raving about the Chiefs and how they
looked and they still needed a tow. But you're still
talking about two top teams in that conference playing. I
think that's what we got last night. You know, nobody's perfect,
but when it comes down to it, when the when
the lines need to win. That's what made me most
impressive is they got the ball with these overtime rules
(16:57):
and just ran it down the rams throats so and
that's so difficult to game plan against it. By the way,
it may be why they may be in a few
more closer games than maybe others. But I do think
that they have the offense that can't explode. But I
get it, I completely get it from your perspective. I
just think that there are other teams that also have
kind of those blemishes that are easier to over.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I agree with you on the blemishes, and we're gonna
see the Niners tonight. I'm not convinced that brock Perty
is all that great, right, they have more playmakers around him, maybe,
and you know, and maybe so that's why. But end
of the day, what told me back from saying that
Niner's gonna win Super Bowl is like again, we've seen
the Chiefs, a highly flawed team and even a quarterback
that can. I mean, my homes kind of it the
(17:41):
other night with that interception. But if your quarterback figures
it out and your quarterback's your best play, you're better
off than if it's an ensemble cast and your quarterback
can hold you back. So am I holding LA against him? Maybe?
But it's it's more that interception other things. I've seen
my own person option of it. I just I just
(18:02):
wonder if if Jared Goff win, that thing gets hot,
if he's going who which which Jared Goff He's going
to be? I think we got to get to the
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that we see from bands are totally transparent. We act
like Texas beat last year's Michigan squad, Like most of
our team graduated, quarterback graduated, coach left, they're on probation.
Texas is good. Texas didn't win in the national semifinals
last year. Exis wins great, But you act like you
beat last year's Michigan team and you didn't. I don't
(19:06):
really understand that one. Look, we don't. Today's not really
a time to talk college football. Week three college football
or week two whatever plus week zero. But I was
thinking about this watching Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame. The
last second kick was Imagine if Notre Dame had lost
(19:28):
in a close game the last second kick to A
and M and beaten the tar out of NIU. How
would you have felt then? Right? Which would have been
really interesting?
Speaker 11 (19:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You were an underdog at A and M, and you
were a big favorite against that IU. But the craziness
of college football was on full display. Iowa States comeback
win over Iowa. Sorry Iowa. Sam's who was there vacationing
or visiting. We saw a couple other ones that were
(19:59):
in interesting. I don't know why NC State was ranked.
It was like, let's just rank an acc team randomly,
and Tennessee went down there and beat the crap out
of him, and then Nebraska, I mean, twenty eight to
ten does not do it justice. That game was over
at the half, it was twenty eight to nothing, and
it was one of those Colorado's really not good. I
think Nebraska is pretty good. And I'll say this about
(20:21):
Dylan Royola, who's the freshman quarterback who's basically doing at
Patrick Mahomes in look and actions whatever. There's a lot
worse guys in the world that you can emulate than
arguably the best quarterback we've ever seen play. The sport
doesn't bother me. Let's get to love and hate, shall we?
Speaker 9 (20:40):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
These player haters? Okay, we go around the room every
day we try and find out what people love, what
people hated for the weekend. Let's start with you there,
Dan Byer, So you're more of a longer than Jason Sewartz,
(21:06):
the hater.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I actually was going to just ask for a little
time because there's a piece of audio that I was
just trying to search for.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And I fine, let's go to let's go to Chris Prefet.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Chris, Oh, I actually have a pretty good one here,
and I think I've got my sound keyed up for this.
So you touched on it a little bit before. But
let me just I want to like rine back back.
I grew up in Toledo, Ohio, which besides Ohio State
and Michigan football, meant Toledo Rockets football, which went the MAC,
the Mid American Conference, And every year I would always
dread when the Toledo had to play the Northern Illinois Huskies.
(21:39):
That is a tough football team. They've been tough for
a really long time. And always felt like, oh man,
they're going to ruin someone's season before too long. Well,
and I you went and did exactly that on Saturday,
going out and taking on Notre Dame, going into South
Bend when Notre Dame looked like they had probably the
clearest path after beating Texas A and m too getting
(22:00):
to the playoffs, and you trip up over the mackets
and I use first wine ever over a top ten
ranks team, your top five for Notre Dame's case and
their current coach, Thomas Hammock he was. He's an alum
of the football program. He was the running backs coach
of the Baltimore Ravens before being hired about four years ago.
(22:23):
Here he was after the game being asked by NBC,
what this moment felt like?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It's deep for you?
Speaker 12 (22:30):
Why?
Speaker 10 (22:31):
Yeah, I'm so proved about kids, the coaches, because everybody
they believe, they believe we came here, I got it gone.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
You told your guys this week that you didn't need
anyone to be a superhero or superhuman.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
They just needed to be their best.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
What kind of performances did you see out there?
Speaker 10 (22:58):
They listen't going off said? I told them all week
we don't need luck. We just got to be our best,
and there was the best today and we were able
to get it done.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Where's this emotion coming from for you?
Speaker 10 (23:14):
You know all these guys that Ben went off program,
Ben through the ups and downs and to continue to fight.
You know, I'm like they my kids. I'm happy for
the adversity to push through, you know, no matter the situation.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah, overwhelming with it. The locker room celebration is something
I love. What I saw to Thomas Hammock and the
Northern Illinois Huskies maction really on display on Saturday in
South Bends.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Love the story, Dan Byer, all Right, Doug, I got
my audio set up, and while it would be easy
to say Seahawks win first win of the Mike McDonald era,
would be the big thing that I loved, or Marshall
Lynch going up to the head coach during the game
and talking to him. It was actually something that I
(24:05):
missed because I was doing my show with Kerry Rhoades
yesterday during the broadcast. This was Adam Marceletta on CBS
as bow Nicks was dropping back to pass for the
Denver Broncos in the second half of that game.
Speaker 13 (24:20):
I have thirty five left, they're down thirteen Knicks. Oh no,
has ltd by T intercepted, picked off by Lollan. Second
interception throwed by the rookie Knicks.
Speaker 14 (24:34):
He's just trying to do too much and hit the
crossing route. But you're gonna see when he decides to let.
Speaker 13 (24:40):
This ball go.
Speaker 14 (24:41):
There's three Seattle defenders. You have Roland chasing him. You
had the linebacker underneath.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You get the point, but the oh no during the call.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I didn't get a chance to hear a lot of
Tom Brady yesterday, but if on any throw he would
have said oh no by Deshaun Watson or Dak Prescot
that was going to end up end up in the
hands of the defenders, I think we would be giving
rave reviews to Tom Brady for that because Adam march
a lotta saw it as it was happening. Uh, just
a great moment yesterday.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
This is one of my favorites. First of all, all
time great dude, like literally all time great dude. And
I think a brilliant broadcasters sometime. You know, he just
doesn't have as big a name, but as a safety,
he'd be able to see everything that's coming. Is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, you have thought I feel about boat Necks.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
By the way, I was never big on boat Nicks.
I don't really get it.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Game one.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Game one. I think it'll be fine, but as far
as like an elite quarterback, I never saw it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
By the way, I just want to play it one
more time now that we know what I'm talking about.
Listen to like how soon he says oh no, thirty five.
Speaker 13 (25:46):
Left, they're down thirteen knicks.
Speaker 15 (25:49):
Oh no, before Spiadida says has all they knew that. Yeah,
this was not good, and he's right, there were three
Seahawks in the area.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, but yeah, love that.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Okay, let me go to Jason Stewart what he got.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
I'm not a religious guy. I'm not even very spiritual,
but I do believe in karma. I believe that what
you put out into the world, you're gonna get back,
positive and negative. So every time Deshaun Watson gets a
beat down, I love it. Like I was so joyful
watching the Cowboys utterly destroy him yesterday, making him feel
(26:33):
pain all day. I want to point out two tweets
I think two people won Twitter yesterday, both having to
do with Deshaun Watson. At Barry on here very funny
Twitter follow, he says, Deshaun Watson might be a terrible person,
but he's also a terrible quarterback and that's what really matters.
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That was only outdone by this Tweetson is getting abused.
If he asked the Cowboys to stop, they should force
him against his will to be assaulted. Then when he
leaves the field in tears, they should send him a
text message reading, sorry about you feeling uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
That's really good stuff. That's really good stuff. You did
what I love for the weekend?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Who sent that?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Who said that the tweet?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
No, that was me.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That was Jason Stewart at Jason Stewart on.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
X, at Jason Stewart on X anymore? Before I get
to go, go ahead, Doug, Okay, do you guys you
didn't realize what I was gonna love, right? I mean,
I thought Sam Darno was nineteen of twenty four. He
did have a pick nineteen of twenty four. Now, part
(27:51):
of it is I think the Giants might be the
worst team in football, but yeah, he was amazing. I
was so happy for the guy. He's just got such
good weapons there. He doesn't have to overdo it, you know.
I mean you looking and with Aaron Jones going for
ninety four yards, but also Aaron Jones being an out
of backfield threat, justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and Oliver and
(28:16):
Chandler like they got a squad of guys from a
throw to I just you know again, I've been a
fan of Sam Donald, hoped he would live up to
his lofty billing. I don't think he ever will, but
I was really happy that he had a great day
against a really bad team to get a start season started.
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
(28:36):
So much to dig into Jason Stewart, you're really good
at this.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
What he got, Doug. Everyone knows who's been listening to
the show and the podcast that I can't stand Tony
Romo as a broadcaster. I had a unique view last yesterday,
so there was a double box on my YouTube TV,
one being the local Charger game with Tony Romo and
Jim Nance, the other one being Tom Brady's debut as
(29:02):
a broadcaster on the other. Now, YouTube TV allows you
to obviously highlight one of them that you listen to,
so I mostly listened to the Brady debut, but every
time I tuned into the Chargers game, Tony Romo only
affirmed my opinion of him that he's awful on the
air and he's like nails screeching a chalkboard. I wanted
(29:22):
to play this for our listeners because it's very apropos
This is Dreue Bledsoe and maybe Bayer knows the answer
to this. I think Bledsoe was interviewed for a feature
on Tony Romo and it was on Brady. I thought
within that feature he said this during an interview in Dallas.
Speaker 11 (29:38):
Parcels made the decision to yank me at halftime of
a game and throw Romo in there. Really didn't agree
with that one. If you're watching this, Romo, you know
this is true. The minute that he became the starter,
he became pretty big in his own mind, and he
was no longer the curious and inquisitive guy where that
was the difference between him and Tommy. Tommy became the starter,
he still was asking all the questions, where all of
(30:00):
a sudden, Romo was the guy that had all the answers.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I think that's apropos for this broadcasting thing too. Romo
has been bad for years, and he's obviously not taken
any teaching or guidance because he's still bad. I think
Brady is going to listen. I think he's going to learn.
Tom Brady had a rough day yesterday, But I'm not
going to make any conclusions yet. Did you guys have
(30:22):
any takeaway from the Brady experience.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I just thought he sounded like a guy who hadn't
done a game and somebody who's been overly coached and
he didn't know when to end his sentences, and that
would happen to me very early on in my career.
And also first game of the year takes a while
to get your rhythm going. And so, I mean, I
think there's some good things he said there. I just
he's definitely playing it a little too close to the
(30:48):
vest I think that'll listen up, and he's trying to
be an announcer instead of just talking about football.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, I agree with that one. There was a part.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Of the game that I did see just prior to
our show where the Browns had a like a fourth
and two or something and they were lining up for it,
and you could tell that Kevin Burkhart was giving him
room to say something, and at that point he didn't
take advantage of it to your point of he you
want him to say? What a quarterback would be thinking?
What are you thinking if you're Deshaun Watson? What are
(31:18):
you looking at? What information is going on within that
triangle of you and the head coach and the coordinator
and whoever of making that decision to go for it
or kick a field goal or punt, and I think
they ended up punting in that scenario. But you could
tell that Burkhart was trying to give him some rooms,
some space to say something, and Brady didn't say anything
(31:39):
at that point, and then when he finally did, it
was a bit of a cliche.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
But yeah, that'll come with time.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Not easy.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Your first show is always your worst.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Correct, very very true, Profet.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
All right, I think we hit on the Browns. Let
me let me pivot a little bit. I know people
like to think the best about technology out there, that
it brings new, cool and interesting things. But in the
case of what we are calling artificial intelligence, it can't
do the things people are saying it can do. For example,
ESPN announced before the weekend that they were going to
(32:16):
introduce a artificial intelligence writing to several of their quote
underserved sports like the National Women's Soccer League and Premier
League Lacrosse. It just so happened this weekend was also
the last professional soccer game of Alex Morgan's career. Alex Morgan,
legendary US women's soccer player, announcing a retirement. She's pregnant
with a second kid on the way as well. It
(32:37):
was her last game with the San Diego Wave and
this was the first chance for ESPN's AI program to
come out and show what it had. Now AI programs
like this, we got to be clear. They don't actually
write articles. They take pieces and guess and think what
is appropriate to write about. They can't actually write about it.
So when the article came out about the San Diego
(32:57):
Waves game on Sunday, there was no mention whatsoever about
this being Alex Morgan's last game, nothing about her performance.
She was absent from the article entirely. ESPN eventually went in,
sent in another writer to write another article, and even
corrected the AI article. But this is just flat out
embarrassing considering how much they probably are paying for artificial intelligence.
(33:22):
If you can't put a writer, a real writer who
can actually like make deductions about what is important and
write a story, don't put a program on it. It's
worse than not even writing anything at all. It was embarrassing,
absolutely embarrassing for an organization that claims that it's covering
sports as a journalism outlet. It's malpractice to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Good. I like that all.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Right, byer, did you go yet?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I didn't it was going to be a very self
serving one and one that's a little bit, you know, backhanded.
Remember on the Gambler on Friday, I gave you guys
a pick. Then the pick was to take New England
because I just did not like where Cincinnati was. This
was New England with the points. Did I think they
were going to win outright? No, but they were more
than a touchdown dog at that point, and I just
(34:13):
didn't like the vibes coming out of Cincinnati. The only
problem with what I said Friday, Doug was on the
podcast that I record with Mike Harmon I Want Your Flex,
that we dropped Thursday night. I actually gave Cincinnati out
as the most likely survivor pick if you were to go.
But I just had such a change of hearts when
I woke up the next morning that I left that
(34:33):
information out there. So I while I got the Patriots
one right, Yeah, well I got the Patriots one right
on Friday. I was with a lot of people on
Thursday with the Bengals as a survivor pick. I also
gave a seattle which ended up working, and I took
the commanders in a pool and ended up hitting but
Well and the Bucks. Yeah, yeah, excuse me, the Bucks. Yeah,
(34:56):
not the Commanders. Yeah, the Bucks in that scenario which
ended up hitting. But yeah, I just wish I would
keep my mouth shut sometimes because it was just so
clear as day that the Bengals just have their minds
on other things and that's money.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, complete distractions.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I did not realize that either, because I picked them
my survivor pool. I did not survive.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I was gonna pull thirty four percent of the entries
had the Bengals in, and at one point the Dolphins
were losing big to the Jaguars, the Bears were down
to the Titans. You would have survivor pools that were
to have had fifty percent wiped out in the first
window of Sunday, But then Dolphins rallied and the Bears
(35:34):
defense obviously came to the rescue.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's my hate.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I hate Nick Sirianni. I can't stand him. He's such
an incredible dB. It's unbelievable, like he just can't help himself.
I don't know, Yeah, I agree, I just what are
we doing like we have We've had athletes that do that,
(36:02):
you know, most of the NBA players that just and
we just get worn out by him and they move
from team team. This guy's coaching one of the best
teams in the NFL, and he's just every game, every
shot to the sideline. There's very little likable about him.
Can't stand him, nobody won. So I hate that even worse.
And that's love and hate for the weekend Stug gott
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to t j'sman zad Up momentarily. So I mean, I
don't think anybody thinks it was normal or not weird
to have Tyreek Hill cuffed and face down on the
pavement outside of where the Dolphins play was at hard
Rock Stadium, and then Kalaias Campbell got stuffed got cuffed
(37:39):
as well, And look, I think what happens is we
all get up on our high horse and we all,
you know, for whatever reason, this becomes some political issue
where guys go to their sides and echoes of Colin
Kaepernick in the past. And I mean, if you have
(38:00):
body can put it, it just gonna tell us all we
need to know. And we still may not agree, but
my guess is it's somewhere in between. The cop was
just in a hole and Tyreek Hill was an a hole.
If you listen to the cops are like, look, he
didn't want to comply, then he would send the curb,
so he put him on face down and we cuffed him.
(38:23):
Listen to Tyreek Hill, He's like, they just went crazy
on me. So I mean, I'm not an idiot. Like,
we sit there and it's Tyreek Hill pulling into the
Dolphins game. This is not that hard, hey, Tyreek Amen,
slow it down, Amen, keep it on the road, and
then stay off your phone. Not the pullover and get
(38:45):
out of the car. Although Tyreek Hill wouldn't put down
the window all the way, but you can see that
in the video. They asked to put it down your window.
You don't crack your window. You put it all the
way down, and you can sit here and go like,
I'm Tyreek Hill, I'm not hiding anything. But then why
would you ever win just barely crack down? You have
tinted windows, which I don't care about, but why do
(39:06):
they not want you to have ten and windows so
they can see what you're doing inside your car, because
lots of people in their car keep a firearm in
their car. So this is not me defending the police.
It's defending the idea that if I'm a cop and
I pull somebody over and they're in a really nice
car and they don't want to put their window down
(39:26):
and they don't want to comply with me, are they
hiding something? Now? Most of us can sit there and
go like, hey man, let's Tyree kill like maybe he's
hiding a football. I don't know, but I would just
I would just say, just patients the truth to come out.
And I don't think putting the officer on leave in
(39:46):
any way indicts the officer. It looks bad right now
to somebody not paying attention, But this is an incident
called the question. Easiest thing to do is take them
off the street, put them behind a desk. You know,
it happened to Murtog all the time, breaks the Murchag
all the time when they were lead the weapon. It's
Doug Gottlie Joe Clock Sports Radio. Let's welcome him in.
He's former pro bowler t Josh Benzana joining us and
(40:08):
it's your team. So let's let's let's ask the first question.
They killed me in my survivor pool, what they'll happened
with the Bengals yesterday?
Speaker 12 (40:16):
Man, isn't it Isn't it natural? You know, after week
one we overreact to everything, and I'm overreacting. I just
don't understand. As bad as the Patriots looked in the preseason,
could barely get a first down, could barely move the ball,
(40:37):
we got one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
one of the best receivers, a better offensive line. We
scored ten points. We scored ten points against the Patriots,
and they ran the ball I believe, like one hundred
and seventy yards, Like it was shocking. And then I
had to do some research and I was like, wait,
(40:57):
what is Joe Burrow is like one in eight in
the first two weeks of the season to start his career,
and so I'm I'm hoping he's just a slow starter
and a strong finisher. But these slow starts are killing
us because now you're playing a much better defense, a
much better offense. In Week two against the Chiefs will
(41:19):
be better, but it's gonna be a tough task.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
It's gonna be a really really tough task, really tough task.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Since I was my boy Tyers Thomas was at my house.
Were watching the game. We're like, can you believe the
Lions are actually good? But it does feel like the
Rams sort of gave one away with bad poor clock
management late. What were your thoughts on Rams Lions?
Speaker 12 (41:44):
I felt like the Rams Lions games, it was back
and forth, really really really good game. I thought it
like the Lions are just one of those teams man,
they were always at the bottom. They're always laughed at.
They're for real. The Sean McVay bro is a fantastic coach.
(42:11):
They literally had the game right there in their hands.
Obviously it slipped away, but you got to give the
Lions credit. Man. In overtime they said, you know, we're
gonna play bully ball. We're gonna play bullyball. We're gonna
use this high priced offensive line. And I believe it
was eight plays in overtime. Seven of them were run plays.
(42:32):
They just bullied them. Run run, run, run, run, run, run, run, touchdown,
game over. And so when the Lions decide that's how
they want to play football, it's gonna be hard to
beat them because their best offensive weapon, I'm and ros
Saint Brown, didn't have much of an impact in that game.
And so if you're an opponent of the Lions moving forward,
it's like, whoa, I'm Andraw didn't really get off and
(42:56):
they won the game. Jamison william Is looking like the
Jamison Williams they thought they were drafting out Obama. The
lines are going.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
To be for real, okay, sit, I mean that had
to be your dream though. Cooper flag they threw them.
Uh see Cooper Cup. They threw him twenty one times,
twenty one targets. It's amazing. That's like every wide receiver's dream.
How many guys are sitting there on their couch going
like that could be me.
Speaker 12 (43:20):
Every receiver in the league is saying Cooper Cup is
lucky the Rams can. The Rams won't many win many
games if that's how they're going to approach it. When
one player is getting twenty one targets, which is almost
fifty percent of your throws, you're passing player, I just
don't see how that's sustainable. Obviously Pooka going out plays
(43:42):
a role in that, but you have to be able
to get other guys involved. It's almost making it too
obvious that we know you want to get it to
Cooper Cup, but twenty one attempts. I don't know how
many guys get that in the career, and I guarantee
Cooper Cup has had that probably more than two or
(44:02):
three four times. And so I think the Rams need
to try to get other guys involved. With Pookah going down,
I'm sure played a part in that.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, no question about that one. What do we do
with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 12 (44:19):
Doug when when I first got on, I said, we
have a tendency to overreact. I'm officially overreacting to Deshaun Watson.
I think he's washing. I don't know if he can
still play at that level that we saw with the
Houston Texas. I'm into Shaun Watson's corner. I believe when
(44:41):
you take those years off, those two years he didn't play,
it's hard to get back into it. Not from a
physical perspective, it's a mental perspective. It's a timing perspective.
It's getting your body and your eyes. I say this
all the time. It's getting your eyes used to the
speed of the game. That's the hardest thing to do
when you're because getting your eye used to the speed
(45:03):
of the game. And granted you have two offensive linemen down,
I'll you playing against one of the better pass rushing
teams in the league, Mike Zimmer, who has a point
to prove as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
But man, is just bad.
Speaker 12 (45:19):
It's bad. It's like you can't there's no more excuses.
You know it. Now you should be settled in now,
your body should be ready to go, and when you
should be an asset. He seems to be a liability
right now. I'll give to Shaun Watson. Honestly, I don't know.
I said he's watched earlier. If I'm a that's just
(45:41):
an overreaction statement. I'm gonna give to Shaun Watson five
to six games. And if he's not the DeShawn Watson
that we saw in Houston, it's ober.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
He hasn't been the Shawn Watson we saw in Houston
in a long time. But we'll we'll, we'll defin only
definitely check it out. Okay, what's your reaction to the
Dak Prescott contract, which we were told he was going
to play out the year and then all of a sudden, Yeah,
I know he's gonna be the Cowboys for the next
couple of years.
Speaker 12 (46:13):
I wouldn't have done it if I'm the Cowboys. I'm
not giving Dak Prescott sixty million. I'm not doing it
under any circumstance. But we're here and he's received sixty million.
Shout out to uh Todd France and Athletes first man.
They always seem away find a way to get it
done for that client. Shout out to them now, Doug
(46:35):
Mike McCarthy is underrated.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Bro.
Speaker 12 (46:39):
Mike McCarthy is underrated as a head coach and play caller,
and I just realized that Mike McCarthy is really good
and people gloss over it and they he's underappreciated because
Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers greatness and the way he
(47:00):
just carved up that Cleveland d Jim Schwartz is one
of the better defensive coordinators in the league. Mike McCarthy
and the Cowboys had a perfect plan and carved him up,
and so moving like he's a top five coach. I
don't know who comes out, but Mike McCarthy is a
(47:22):
really good head coach because nobody did that. Nobody does
that to the Cleveland Browns defense, not since Jim Schwartz
has been there. They may have a bad game here,
they got carved up. And so I'm gonna give Mike
McCarthy a ton of credit for the plan that he
put together. But if I'm Jerry Jones and the Cowboys,
I'm not giving Dak Prescott sixty million. Dak Prescott is
(47:44):
a really good quarterback, but when you need him in
the biggest of moments in the playoffs, he hasn't been
able to do it, and so I know what I'm
gonna get. I'm gonna make him the highest paid player
in the national football in the history of the game
by a wide margin. I can't do that. I can't
(48:05):
do that knowing what I'm gonna get, or should I say,
assuming what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
TJ just Bensis our guest, two time Pro bowler of course,
longtime wide receiver with the CINCINNTI Bengals, n if A
analyst and the wide receiver guru for all these guys
in the offseason when they want to get better, they
come and see who Pittsburgh gets a road win. Is
it sustainable playing the way they're playing.
Speaker 12 (48:32):
That's how they've always played since Big Band is retired.
Played good, defenseless, just don't turn the ball over and
give us a chance. Six field goals won the game.
Like it isn't sustainable when you play, when you play
a team that offensively is going to put pressure on you,
that isn't sustainable. You're not gonna be able to do that.
Kirk Cousins didn't have a great game through so interceptions
(48:56):
and they both were costly. It's like, wait, oh, well, Kirk,
what are we doing so I don't believe it's sustainable,
but that is how Mike Tomlin has played football since
Ben is retired. Let's play great defense, all their resources
on the defensive side of the ball. George Pickens and
Shustin Fields made enough places. I felt like one of
(49:16):
the bigger plays in the game was just before halftime
when Justin rolled out to the left and through the
corner or what if you call it a high corner
route back to George Pickens and they were able to
get a field But I thought that was a huge
play in the game, considering they really didn't have many
options but to get a chunk play and so you
(49:36):
know they had a lapse. So I think the Falcons
defense they just I don't know what happened on that play,
But no, I don't believe it's sustainable. But Mike Tomlin
has never had a losing season for a reason. The
interesting question will be when Russ is healthy, what happens
if they continue to win but it's not because of
(49:58):
the offense that happened. Do they stay with Jessin Fields,
do they go to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
It's a great question. I don't know what the answers
that is, but I don't because I don't think Russell
Wilson is that much better. Can he get the ball
to guys? Yeah, but he holds a long time and
he doesn't have the dynamic of being an athlete anymore.
So we'll we'll see last last one. Who's do you
consider benching Bryce Young? It's only one game in, but
(50:27):
we do have all of last year.
Speaker 12 (50:29):
I can't bench right. But like, if you go back
to the days of Ricky's wouldn't they wouldn't play, they
would sit. He played as a Ricky got beat down
physically more importantly mentally, Bryce shung And this is no disrespect.
He's not playing what top of the line receivers he isn't.
(50:55):
Jamar Chase doesn't practice all the training camp. T Higgins
doesn't play. Joe Brow's one of the best quarterbacks in
the league. Did he look at yesterday?
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Nope?
Speaker 12 (51:04):
No, Like the quarterbacks matter a ton, but boy, I
tell you them, receivers that can create separation get open.
It don't matter who's garden them. They matter. Also, Shun
doesn't have that. He doesn't have that. Then obviously his
players played a part in this. But I'm not benching
he no, because I want to see if you bench him,
(51:26):
the guy that you bring in is one Andy Dalk.
He's not your future. Can he do much better? Can
he get it to the playoffs? Other answer is no,
So let's see what Bryce Sean can do. I think
for Bryce, his biggest thing is he has to stay
locked in mentally. What I mean by that is, Doug,
when everything is going great, you coach, you a basketball
(51:48):
coach man. When you guys go on a fifteen game
win streak, everybody in that locker room is gonna they're
gonna feel like every game we play, we're gonna win.
When you go on a fifteen game Bluton Street not win.
If that was to take place, everybody's going to have doubt.
Bryce Sean has to erase that doubt because he has doubt.
(52:09):
Bryce Sean was a winner at every level of football
until now. I'm sure he has so much doubt that
it's probably messing with his mental He has to get
rid of that. But I'm not benching because I don't
know if I have anything better. And aside from that,
he doesn't have these top flight receivers that he's throwing
(52:30):
the ball to. And so who's going to do any
better that That would be my thinking as a coach.
Who is going to be better than Bryce Seank And
the answer would be nobody.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
That's TJ. Hrichmandzade. Who can you can hear on Up
on Game? Up On Game is available every Saturday morning
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Speaker 11 (52:55):
Man?
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Got to get you up to the base sometime. We'll
talk soon.
Speaker 12 (52:58):
I go, I appreciate it. Keep up to great work man,
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