September 10, 2024 • 32 mins
Doug and Jason Stewart and Chris Perfett discuss the body cam footage of the Tyreek Hill incident on Sunday before the Dolphins' game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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iHeartRadio app welcome in. I hope you're doing absolutely splendid. So, man,
this is a topic that we're obviously going to talk about,
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and by we, I mean me and Jaseo and Profet
you cannot be in on you well, and I think
it'll be a great, honest discussion and I'll grant you. Okay,
it's a discussion from two uh oh wait a second.
Worst people on Earth are white men in America apparently
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are two white men. But I think it's a reasonable discussion,
and it's about the Tyreek Hill video, and I just
it's one of those things where I know the intention
of First of all, bodycam footage is out. If you
haven't seen it. If you haven't seen it, prophect, Do
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we have the audio.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
No, we don't have the audio.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, okay, if you haven't seen it, let me kind
of describe what it is. And of course you go
to my social media pages you can find it. But
if you haven't seen it, the one officer walks up
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to Tyree Hill's window and knocks on the window and
asks for his ID and for him to put his
window down. He puts his window down and immediately immediately
tells him to stop banging on his window. Tyreek Hill
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tells the officer to stop banging on his window. Now
what we don't know, because even though there's several body
cam footages, we don't know how fast exactly he was going.
But the rumors are was fifty miles an hour or
more over the speed limit, and there's six motorcycle police
officer cruisers behind his car like he was either in
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a parade or getting an escort, or he was going really,
really fucking fast, which I think is the third one.
Jay Sue, I'll just tell you what I think, and
then I know what you think because you and I
have talked. You know, my opinion is slightly different than yours,
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but very very similar. My opinion is this, okay. The
first part is you can't say, like the Tyreek Hill
my mom didn't raise me that way is offensive. It's offensive.
And this narrative that he has taken on and that
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his agent has taken on like he is some unwitting
victim of a crime. Is it's actually offensive to any
human being that pays attention the second officer, the one
who rips him out of the car, it feels like
he escalates it and he's a little bit over the top.
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We'll get to that in a second. But I have
never in my life, okay, seen somebody be initially that rute. Now,
let's not even factor in the fact that he beat
his girlfriend who became his wife. That's why he'd lost
his scholarship to Oklahoma State. He's had other fucking run INDs.
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He's got how many kids with how many women? Like, again,
that's not a criminal offense. But here's a guy that
has blatant disregard for any sort of normal rules of
society and telling like, I can't guarantee many things. Tyreek
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Hill will never be a police officer, So the I
have respect for cops, My mom didn't raise me that way, Like,
what the fuck are you even talking about? Have we
not been paying attention to the rest of your life?
And I like Tyreek Hill, I just hate being lied
to way more than I like Tyreek Hill. He gets
pulled over, he's initially caustic towards the cop. Then he
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called his agent on the phone, Drew Rosenhaus I am.
Then he closes up the window after giving them his ID.
That's when the officer's like, hey, who told you to
grow up the window? And finally they're like all right, fine,
you're getting out of the car. And the guy, the
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other cop comes in and he takes it, takes it
to a higher level. Now, what we don't know about
that is we don't know officer protocols because what no
one says in these situations is have we thought of
what it's like to be a police officer. Now, Look,
I've had tin in front windows. I've gotten pulled over
for tin in front windows. I found it to be
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obnoxious when I get to fix a ticket for tin
in front windows. But we all realize with so many
people packing fucking heat, that an officer needs that window
down and needs to see what you're doing while he's
gonna look up and call in your ID. That's why
they stay there and they have somebody else go back
to the police car or to the motorcycle to call
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in the ID. They do that, say and keep an
eye on you so you don't go into your glovebox
and get your gun and shoot the fucking officer. It's
a black I think it was a mclarenay, a black
McLaren with twin tended windows. And as much as any
of us like I would never be able to afford
to drive McLaren, it is in Miami, and I'm sure
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they pull over douchebags driving a McLaren or driving a
Bentley all the time. And the second you let your
guard down and you're cool about it, that's the second
you get fucking shot on the job. That's the fear.
So do I think the second officer escalated it and
was overly aggressive? Sure? Not a fucking idiot, Okay. Do
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I think it had anything to do with him be black?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And there's an additional body cam footage where Tyreek Hill's
sitting on the curb saying, I'm just a black man
trying to live as was like to be a black
ben Like we're brown too, Like what are you talking about?
You were an asshole? Driving one hundred and a fifty
is being an asshole and being dangerous And the idea
of Tyreek Hill going like if I wasn't Tyreek kill
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would have happened. The reason that he gave him the idea,
in my opinion, and then rolled up the window. Was
he thought once he showed the idea of it's Tyreek Hill,
to'd be like, oh, it's Tyreek Cable didn't fucking go
by all means, which probably would have happened in most situations.
But the problem was the initial confrontation was what are
you going to do about it? That was what Tyreek
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Hill said, like what so, look, if we can't have
police officers, they can't pull you over, if they can't
have them look inside your car visually while you're getting
your idea, we can't have a society. Can't have a
society with guns. If cops aren't allowed to see what's
going on in your car, can't they can't function. And
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we can't have a society that functions in a way
in which anytime a black man is arrested and detained whatever.
By the way, Klais Campbell is lucky he didn't get shot.
I didn't say to mccleas Campbell did anything particularly wrong,
but I want you to picture yourself as an officer. Okay,
you're in a bit of an argument. All of a
sudden it gets escalated. You're cuffing a guy out of
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a car, and somebody else pulls up in a car
and hops out of their car, like that's a good
way to get fucking shot if the officers didn't have
the patience to go, hey, put the camera down, move
the car, Like we all act like you're entitled to
do whatever the fuck you want in filming a police officer.
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You're not. By the way, none of that footage tells
any of the story. The bodycam footage, which was on
on all them, tells you everything you need to know.
And what's even more offensive is all of these people
in our business who are so scared to just go like, yeah, hey,
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Tyreek Hill is out of line, and then the cop
kind of escalated it, and it happens. We can all
learn from it, we can all move forward. Instead, they
make it out like these officers should be fired for
what What the fuck did they do wrong? Are they
not supposed to pull over a guy going one hundred
and fifty? Are they supposed to treat him better than
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anybody else, which they kind of did anyway, when he
refuses to obey orders? What are they supposed to do?
Like I'm asking I'm actually asking a question, what are
they What are you supposed to do if a guy
refuses your orders and you're a police officer, please pretty
please with sugar on top, Like, no, that's not what
they do. So I just I understand that that black
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and brown people men mostly have at times felt like
they were treated way worse in the rest situation. Okay,
but if you have, if you're a reasonable human being,
this is not the fight to fight. This is not
the one to fight on. It's just not how I
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would say. It was like, I just think Greek kill.
All you gotta say is like, ah, my bad, I was.
I was running late. If he puts down the window
and goes like, hey man, sorry man, I'm a dolphin.
I'm running late to the game. I apologize for going fast.
My bad, Like, can we just if you want to
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write me a ticket, write me a ticket. If you
can let me go, that's even better. But I just
I really I got to get to the game. Imagine
that as opposed to what are you going to do
about it? If I'm not going to give you my ID.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
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Speaker 2 (10:38):
App Jase, do your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, first of all, could you ask me that question,
the rhetorical question that you just asked about, what are
they supposed to do if he continues to not be cooperative?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just ask me what are you supposed to do if
you continues not be cooperative?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The people that want him to be fired, this is
their answer, not what he did anything, but what the
officer did. And like, that's not offering up any solutions.
That's just exacerbating a problem by continuing to complain about it.
And it's vacuous and surface level. There's no way to
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get into the skin or that the mind frame of
a cop or cops that are dealing with somebody who's
being belligerent. And as you said, then as guys start
walking up on you don't walk up on a scene
that's escalated. That's where the accidents happened. The only reason
why this was escalated is because of the decisions made
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by tyreek Hill. How many times could you be asked
to get out of your car? How many times can
you be asked to roll down your window? How many
times could you be asked to get on the ground.
I mean, what is the threshold there. I mean, just
like a function in society needs to have laws and rules,
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and you need to have people that are paid to
enforce those laws and rules. And if you willingly break
a law, which Tyreek Hill did, then you need to
be deferential with law enforcement. If you're not showing respect
and you're not cooperating, then there are consequences for that.
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I'm going to quote a former police officer who happens
to be black, but that shouldn't be important here, and
he sums it up perfectly. His name is Officer Tatum.
The officer Tatum on Wine. You could find him. He
has a massive social media following. He talks about guns
a lot. He talks about law enforcement a lot. This
was his exact reaction to it. Keep the window down.
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Why are you rolling the window up? That's an officer
safety issue. They don't know this man. He could be
pulling a gun out. Keep the window down. They asked
you a simple question. You're the one at fault, not them.
I don't know how you could have a functioning society
of laws and rules if the first thing that a
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person does is be belligerent towards the people that are
paid to enforced laws. I what are kids being taught
when they see this body cam footage that when they're
pulled over or when an officer approaches be an asshole.
You want to talk about more shootings that are going
to happen, because you're gonna have more escalated situations and
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then God knows what happens after that. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know. That's just the surface of my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Prophet, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But yeah, I don't like this whole situation. I think
he acted poorly. On the other hands, I I also
don't want police officers who are afraid of everything out here.
The Kalais Campbell thing really rubbed me the wrong way.
I think at a certain point we give a lot
of power to police officers.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And like what part of the Kalays campbl thing the
w own.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
No, I just I think the answer in there is, sir,
please back up, this is a this is an active situation.
Please stop. Like that's that's That's probably what needs to
be said there. I don't know about being as far
as being deferential to police. It's tough because there's a
video I see posted every Friday by two lawyers who
I like on Twitter, and the name of that video
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is shut the fuck Up Friday, and how they describe
how dealing with the police is basically kind of this.
It's I wouldn't say it's hustle and not saying it's
rolling up the window. But you're also not under any
kind of legal obligation to be like you know, they're
They're like, I'm not discussing my day with you. It's tough.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
This is fucking fucked up. Okay, he was doing one
and fifty. Okay, this is not They.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Just rolled up on you talking about this like this
is this is a this is a stop for moving violation.
I just don't want please.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
He's it's not a moving violation, Okay, Let'm moving my
violation Okay, a moving violation. And what you're saying is
like he made an a legal turn. He's got a
light out in a car.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Okay, whatever the differentiation on.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But there's a big difference there. Imagine again, I want
you to here's what being what's the what's the word
called fuck empathetic? Right, It's it's feeling what other people feel. Right.
This is what we're missing, is we have zero empathy
for police officers. Okay, I want you to think about this,
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Chris for a second. You're a cop and all of
a sudden, you're riding your motorcycle and it's on a
Super Bowl Sunday. Maybe you're covering in the area. Maybe
you're not. I don't know. A guy goes zipping by. Again,
it's been reported one hundred and three and a fifty.
I don't know if that's accurate. Okay, one hundred and
three and a fifty. So you light him up, okay,
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and he pulls over in front of the stadium. Now,
if you're going a hundred in a fifty and you
get pulled over, is that the time to tell a
cop to shut the fuck up? I'm asking a question,
like really, like listen, if they pull you over for
some fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know, I've been pulled over several times. Let me
tell you this.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I gotta pulled over plenty got I got a speeding
ticket at three in the morning. I'm driving through a
tiny little town in the Upper Peninsula, Michigan. I had
you know, it's a six hour drive from Traverse City
to Green Bay, Wisconsin. Okay, so I stopped pulled over,
took a nap, okay, got up, got some liquid death Okay,
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I got a coffee and I'm driving and I go
through a little town and they clocked me at fifty
three in a thirty five at three in the fucking morning.
So they pulled me over. And I was like, They're like,
do you know why I pull you over? Like I
think I was probably speeding? Yeah, you're going fifty three
and a thirty five. I was like, it's three in
the morning, so yeah, you know, we're just looking for
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people who drun. I was like, well, I'll do a
field sobriety, you can do the BAC. I haven't had
a drink. They're like, no, it will just write your
verst speeding ticke. I was like, you can't let me go. No,
What is being a dick going to do for you?
What is telling the officer to shut the fuck up
because you watch some lawyer do it like again, Tyreek
Hill has been convicted of crimes previously. Tyreek Hill is
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a multimillion dollar athlete. There's a lot of things going
on here. You get pulled over. What is going to
hurt you from rolling down your window and being polite
and going like, hey man, my bad, sorry I was speeding.
I was wrong. Just you want write to take it,
right to take it if you don't, And honestly, that
sometimes gets you out of a ticket. How possibly? Okay?
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And then again, Chris, this is the other thing. So
you're a cop and you knock on a window. If
the guy has a tinted front window on a black car,
you can't see in that car if he goes to
get a gun.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Chris, you want my I mean, you're asking my opinion
on all.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'm not asking your opinion. I'm telling you the fucking
reality of it.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Okay, I'm telling you raw that us too, is that
police have done a lot of things that have kind
of garnered these kind of reactions in the past. There
needs to be an equal, equalized field A lot. I
don't think I understand. Some people just don't trust cops, period.
I I get where that comes from.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We don't trust anybody.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We don't trust and people too.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Again, we don't trust police officers, we don't trust anybody
who's in charge. We don't trust teachers, we don't trust lawyers,
we don't trust presidents, we don't truy and and some
of them also have earned it. They also have earned it.
Like it's fucking hysterical that like the right is going
to sit there and going like say law and order.
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Where you're right, there's been plenty of cops, plenty of
other people in charge you, plenty of wrong things. Case
in point, all of all the president's guys are all
fell are are all all carry felonies. So does he
like it's a fucking joke, right, But okay, but dude,
you were using you're using all of that as ammo
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towards something which is comically comically.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think one in this situation acted poorly. But I
also think that we can't use tygreek Hill's past like
that cop doesn't psychically know his past in all of
this as well. He's got someone in there, as you say,
is speeding, has tinted windows. He doesn't know what's going on.
On the other hand, there's a lot of reasons where
that could have just not escalated, and somehow we got Estally,
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you said to yourself that other cop acted extremely poorly, a.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Grin, you know, he acted extremely aggressively. I didn't say poorly.
I don't know what their protocols are. I do know
that if a guy doesn't want to get out of
a car and you order him out of a car
and he's blacked into windows refusing, you know, refusing to
abide by what you've asked. I don't know if their
police protocols is fucking yank him out because the second
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you slow down and go like, I don't know that
the second somebody pulls out a gun and shoots it
that happens.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Is that all worth it over a speeding though? I
think that's ultimately when I'm getting what like I I
keep coming back with it right down the plate or
something like.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Wait, so you want to write down, I tell you
what and send him a ticket in the mail.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I just don't need guys getting tackled and like everyone
going out of their mind.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
All he had to do was leave the window down
and have a conversation that he did have to leave, yes,
and he didn't further he gets down, then he had
it cracked, then he put it all the way up.
Then he refused to put it down and in the
process and said what are you going to do about it?
Like it's not that hard And and in regards to
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Klais Campbell, I agree with you. But again, this is
where you need to have empathy for a police officer.
We're dealing with a guy who is a police we
don't know who the fuck he is. He puts he
won't put his window down, he won't comply, and all
of a sudden behind us, a car pulls up and
dudes hop out, Like I actually think they showed a
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lot of restraint, because there's a lot of cops that
would all of a sudden they have their weapons going.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That's a problem. No, that's a problem right there, Then
what's the problem? No, I you you want to have
empathy for the police officer's fine, I want to have
empy for them too. I also think that when you
are a police officer and you are given a tremendous
amount of power and given a weapon that can take
lives at will in a split second, you need to
also show with that power comes responsibility for it, and
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comes calm for it. Police policing as a profession was beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You have any cops that are friends, You have any
friends on your on your phone that you call right
now that are police officers, because I guarantee you all
of them would say whoever your Chris perfect guy is
out of his fucking mind.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay, but he's just going nuts in this kind and
it's not going don't nobody's going now fearful of the
people they are policing.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know what you have to do. You know what
you have to do, Chris. You have to take all
of the guns that all of America has.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That sounds like a great idea to me. Doug, I'm
all for.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That, but it's never gonna happen, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Okay, So we're in fear of everyone for all of
our I can't do that as a Christian, as a Catholic,
I can't accept that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
The rest of their lives.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay. So again, we police officers deal with reality, Okay, reality,
and I want people to understand this. Okay. I'm a
a a radical centrist. I have always been and will
continue to be left leaning. And despite the fact that
the way the Democrats have cowered to some of these
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fucking lunatics okay that want to defund the police, and
they don't want to defund the police. Nobody's going to
defund the police, Okay. I was still I'm not voting
for the dude it's not happening. Not happening. He is
a bad person who tried to overthrow the government after
a fair and fair election that he fucking lost. Period, stop,
end of story. Won't have any other discussion about it. Okay,
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but but okay, but you're painting the world of a
fantasy world where no cop is going to be in fear.
It's not necessarily fear based. Those guys actually perform their
job really well. In an adverse situation where really popular
person who they didn't fucking know and don't fucking care
who he is, was speeding and was non compliant, and
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then other dudes roll up and ask what the deal
is where a bad cop would would put their weapon
right on them and potentially shoot their ass.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
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Speaker 2 (23:40):
But the point is that when you're a cop and
your only goal is to go home every night to
your wife and kids, or just to your fucking dog,
it doesn't matter. You have to just like being a
defensive driver and worry about everybody else around you. That's
the thing because they get and I thought, Jason, you
said this to me last night and was really really good.
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They get lied to every day, all the time, every day,
all the time. No one has ever said I did it.
They don't do it. They don't come and turn themselves in.
I did it. I apologize, here's my crime, here's my weapon.
I did it. I'm guilty. Conscious that doesn't happen. They
lie about everything. So you can't trust that the guy
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who rolls up his window with a tinted car, even
though he's an NFL star with a beautiful necklace around
his waist and he looks around his neck and he
looks like he might be not you can't trust that
he ain't going to his blovebox to get a gun.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Why do we come to the point where we have
bodycams for police?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Then? Huh?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Why did we come to the point where we needed
bodycams for police? Then that always have to be on
and every footage has to be reviewed. Why did we
start doing.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That so we don't have a he said? She said,
because it's pretty obvious that in watching that video, I
have a pretty strong one, I think is reasonable opinion,
and other people do not and that is again how
this is described. But you've had it described by other people. Okay,
think about how it's described by other people, the interaction
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that took place. Then watch it actually happen on the
body cam footage, and it gives you a completely different
perspective of it.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Also, that equation is also that we've also had police
lying out here in this game. You can call me
fantastical or idealistic, but I also think that at some
point we have to start stop being so cynical and
start paving a path. That's how every movement has moved
in this country. It may sound fantastical, but at some
point the present cannot hold. Progress has to happen in
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some way. That doesn't mean I'm saying progressive. I don't
even think this issue here can be lined up as
either a left or right thing, and I reject those
labels entirely. It's just it's a question of reform. It's
a question of how do we get to this place
where everyone's looking at that footage and taking two very
different wild reactions from it. It's because nobody trusts anyone
anymore in any situation. And I'm just saying like, at
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some point there is some onus on the people who
have the response, like the responsibility of that law to
also be responsible for trying to bring some of that
public trust back as well, And an incident like this
erodes it on both sides. It erods it on both sides.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I truly think this. I'm gonna say this in all honesty.
I don't think the cops did anything particularly wrong other
than you know, again, if I don't know their protocols,
and their protocols are he was overly aggressive, that would
be the thing that would be the thing, you know,
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I mean, even the I won't sit down. I had
surgery on my knee. I don't know when he had
a scope on his knee. I don't know when that
is okay, But then just sit in the curb, dude.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
That goes back to But that goes back to my point.
That's probably why I said it to you yesterday. People.
Why do these guys all day long you think that
saying I'd got a knee surgery is beyond the scope
of dishonesty in a situation like this, like the cops
don't care about your situation. They certainly don't know who
you are. That's the thing too.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I've also though, seen other police videos where people said, hey,
can I just get my shoes and they let them
get the shoes and nothing happens.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Like I again, just like again, what is the context
of the situation where they go.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I was an arrest at at a apartment complex?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Right, Were they combative from the moment that they were speeding?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
And no, but it was mentally troubled person that they
were arresting.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Every situation is different. That's what's crazy about this entire thing.
Like the situation I think that you're talking about Chris
and why we need body camps and everything. I think
there have been awful situations with awful decisions made by
horrible people, and it puts us in this situation where
no one trusts anyone. I just don't think that incident
on Sunday was one of them. I mean, Miami Daves
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sent out a statement before they sent out the body
camps that they said that the officers acted the way
that they should have. Like, so the body cam to
them confirmed that the officers did what they were supposed
to do. That's what's crazy about this. And now the public,
the public fervor afterwards might force this police department to
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go back on their original statement and suspend or even
fire these officers. Like, it's kind of shitty world.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
We're living in. And it's also coming in the light
that we just had this this situation where with Scotti Scheffler,
you know, a few months ago, where there were falsities
told by the police of exactly what happened in that incident.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Sure, sure, all fair. Again, you can tell me that
there's police officers on a power trip. I think most
of us have experienced that. I'm willing to believe there's
probably some police officers that are racist. Okay, I haven't
experienced it. I'm sure it does exist to black men.
I don't think this is that case. I don't. I
(28:59):
think this is what happens. And I think Tyreek Hill
then he was on CNN last night like what the
fuck and like and I got to be honest, you like,
I know Drew rose Nous a little bit. This is
what makes people despise Drew Rosenause because there is zero
accountability towards his client.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I was sitting here at the studio that morning and
I saw Drew Rosenhouse first on ESPN with Jeff Darlington
and then within five minutes he was on after finishing that,
he was on NFL network like he went through that,
he went through a car wash.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Here.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Reality, he's a piece of shit for how he's handled this.
He's a piece of shit, okay, because a real dude
would be like, hey, Tyreek was speeding, he was wrong,
he was running late. His children are all hot. That
doesn't excuse it. Now the cop, Now, then you can
go into your whole cop thing about you thought the
cop was way over the top. Whatever you can, but
(29:53):
zero accountability first clients, none, zero, Like there are so
many people that their skin is crawling because they feel
they can't say what I just said because they think
they'll get canceled, fired, whatever. That's actually the saddest part
(30:15):
about this shit is that those officers, who what are
they doing? They're working on a fucking football Sunday. There's
also a part of the body cam footage where somebody goes,
don't you know who that is? That's one of the
Dolphin star players. It's like I don't know, I don't care,
like I don't care, don't know okay, which I think
is mind blowing to me, right, Like you didn't know
(30:36):
it's start. Youll like, look, I'm with you if you
just go like, all you gotta do is roll up
the window and be like, oh tyreek, we are you
doing speed? Man? Fuck? What are you doing? And I'm
going to the game? Are running late? Ah? All right,
I gotta write you a ticket real quick because you
were going one hundred. I'm I'm gonna put it down
a little bit or part of the bodycam footage thing,
which which which screws them up is they can't go
(30:58):
like if you had one hundred and three in a fifty, right,
they can't go, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna drop this
to like seventy and a sixty. So it's it's not
reckless driving. You know, you just pay the fine. I
can't do that anymore because of it. And I think
all of us have had a cop that's like, all right, man,
(31:19):
slow it down or let me just drop it a
couple miles an hour, So it's not a crazy ticket.
But you're right, Chris, we don't trust anybody. The guns
are a big problem. The rhetoric on TV is a
gigantic problem. The behavior of police officers in the past
(31:39):
has been a problem, but again how would you react
if people treat you like shit every single fucking day?
Like that's that's one of the things, like I understand
the black person's perspective, which is like, hey man, how
would you react to people treat you like shit all
the time? Like yeah, okay, that's what it feels like
to be a cop. So some of it is earned,
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a lot of it is not. All right, that's it
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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iHeartRadio app welcome in. I hope you're doing absolutely splendid. So, man,
this is a topic that we're obviously going to talk about,
(00:34):
and by we, I mean me and Jaseo and Profet
you cannot be in on you well, and I think
it'll be a great, honest discussion and I'll grant you. Okay,
it's a discussion from two uh oh wait a second.
Worst people on Earth are white men in America apparently
(00:56):
are two white men. But I think it's a reasonable discussion,
and it's about the Tyreek Hill video, and I just
it's one of those things where I know the intention
of First of all, bodycam footage is out. If you
haven't seen it. If you haven't seen it, prophect, Do
(01:21):
we have the audio.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
No, we don't have the audio.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, okay, if you haven't seen it, let me kind
of describe what it is. And of course you go
to my social media pages you can find it. But
if you haven't seen it, the one officer walks up
(01:45):
to Tyree Hill's window and knocks on the window and
asks for his ID and for him to put his
window down. He puts his window down and immediately immediately
tells him to stop banging on his window. Tyreek Hill
(02:06):
tells the officer to stop banging on his window. Now
what we don't know, because even though there's several body
cam footages, we don't know how fast exactly he was going.
But the rumors are was fifty miles an hour or
more over the speed limit, and there's six motorcycle police
officer cruisers behind his car like he was either in
(02:28):
a parade or getting an escort, or he was going really,
really fucking fast, which I think is the third one.
Jay Sue, I'll just tell you what I think, and
then I know what you think because you and I
have talked. You know, my opinion is slightly different than yours,
(02:50):
but very very similar. My opinion is this, okay. The
first part is you can't say, like the Tyreek Hill
my mom didn't raise me that way is offensive. It's offensive.
And this narrative that he has taken on and that
(03:12):
his agent has taken on like he is some unwitting
victim of a crime. Is it's actually offensive to any
human being that pays attention the second officer, the one
who rips him out of the car, it feels like
he escalates it and he's a little bit over the top.
(03:34):
We'll get to that in a second. But I have
never in my life, okay, seen somebody be initially that rute. Now,
let's not even factor in the fact that he beat
his girlfriend who became his wife. That's why he'd lost
his scholarship to Oklahoma State. He's had other fucking run INDs.
(03:55):
He's got how many kids with how many women? Like, again,
that's not a criminal offense. But here's a guy that
has blatant disregard for any sort of normal rules of
society and telling like, I can't guarantee many things. Tyreek
(04:15):
Hill will never be a police officer, So the I
have respect for cops, My mom didn't raise me that way, Like,
what the fuck are you even talking about? Have we
not been paying attention to the rest of your life?
And I like Tyreek Hill, I just hate being lied
to way more than I like Tyreek Hill. He gets
pulled over, he's initially caustic towards the cop. Then he
(04:39):
called his agent on the phone, Drew Rosenhaus I am.
Then he closes up the window after giving them his ID.
That's when the officer's like, hey, who told you to
grow up the window? And finally they're like all right, fine,
you're getting out of the car. And the guy, the
(05:00):
other cop comes in and he takes it, takes it
to a higher level. Now, what we don't know about
that is we don't know officer protocols because what no
one says in these situations is have we thought of
what it's like to be a police officer. Now, Look,
I've had tin in front windows. I've gotten pulled over
for tin in front windows. I found it to be
(05:22):
obnoxious when I get to fix a ticket for tin
in front windows. But we all realize with so many
people packing fucking heat, that an officer needs that window
down and needs to see what you're doing while he's
gonna look up and call in your ID. That's why
they stay there and they have somebody else go back
to the police car or to the motorcycle to call
(05:44):
in the ID. They do that, say and keep an
eye on you so you don't go into your glovebox
and get your gun and shoot the fucking officer. It's
a black I think it was a mclarenay, a black
McLaren with twin tended windows. And as much as any
of us like I would never be able to afford
to drive McLaren, it is in Miami, and I'm sure
(06:05):
they pull over douchebags driving a McLaren or driving a
Bentley all the time. And the second you let your
guard down and you're cool about it, that's the second
you get fucking shot on the job. That's the fear.
So do I think the second officer escalated it and
was overly aggressive? Sure? Not a fucking idiot, Okay. Do
(06:28):
I think it had anything to do with him be black?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And there's an additional body cam footage where Tyreek Hill's
sitting on the curb saying, I'm just a black man
trying to live as was like to be a black
ben Like we're brown too, Like what are you talking about?
You were an asshole? Driving one hundred and a fifty
is being an asshole and being dangerous And the idea
of Tyreek Hill going like if I wasn't Tyreek kill
(06:52):
would have happened. The reason that he gave him the idea,
in my opinion, and then rolled up the window. Was
he thought once he showed the idea of it's Tyreek Hill,
to'd be like, oh, it's Tyreek Cable didn't fucking go
by all means, which probably would have happened in most situations.
But the problem was the initial confrontation was what are
you going to do about it? That was what Tyreek
(07:13):
Hill said, like what so, look, if we can't have
police officers, they can't pull you over, if they can't
have them look inside your car visually while you're getting
your idea, we can't have a society. Can't have a
society with guns. If cops aren't allowed to see what's
going on in your car, can't they can't function. And
(07:37):
we can't have a society that functions in a way
in which anytime a black man is arrested and detained whatever.
By the way, Klais Campbell is lucky he didn't get shot.
I didn't say to mccleas Campbell did anything particularly wrong,
but I want you to picture yourself as an officer. Okay,
you're in a bit of an argument. All of a
sudden it gets escalated. You're cuffing a guy out of
(08:02):
a car, and somebody else pulls up in a car
and hops out of their car, like that's a good
way to get fucking shot if the officers didn't have
the patience to go, hey, put the camera down, move
the car, Like we all act like you're entitled to
do whatever the fuck you want in filming a police officer.
(08:23):
You're not. By the way, none of that footage tells
any of the story. The bodycam footage, which was on
on all them, tells you everything you need to know.
And what's even more offensive is all of these people
in our business who are so scared to just go like, yeah, hey,
(08:44):
Tyreek Hill is out of line, and then the cop
kind of escalated it, and it happens. We can all
learn from it, we can all move forward. Instead, they
make it out like these officers should be fired for
what What the fuck did they do wrong? Are they
not supposed to pull over a guy going one hundred
and fifty? Are they supposed to treat him better than
(09:06):
anybody else, which they kind of did anyway, when he
refuses to obey orders? What are they supposed to do?
Like I'm asking I'm actually asking a question, what are
they What are you supposed to do if a guy
refuses your orders and you're a police officer, please pretty
please with sugar on top, Like, no, that's not what
they do. So I just I understand that that black
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and brown people men mostly have at times felt like
they were treated way worse in the rest situation. Okay,
but if you have, if you're a reasonable human being,
this is not the fight to fight. This is not
the one to fight on. It's just not how I
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would say. It was like, I just think Greek kill.
All you gotta say is like, ah, my bad, I was.
I was running late. If he puts down the window
and goes like, hey man, sorry man, I'm a dolphin.
I'm running late to the game. I apologize for going fast.
My bad, Like, can we just if you want to
(10:17):
write me a ticket, write me a ticket. If you
can let me go, that's even better. But I just
I really I got to get to the game. Imagine
that as opposed to what are you going to do
about it? If I'm not going to give you my ID.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
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Speaker 2 (10:38):
App Jase, do your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, first of all, could you ask me that question,
the rhetorical question that you just asked about, what are
they supposed to do if he continues to not be cooperative?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just ask me what are you supposed to do if
you continues not be cooperative?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The people that want him to be fired, this is
their answer, not what he did anything, but what the
officer did. And like, that's not offering up any solutions.
That's just exacerbating a problem by continuing to complain about it.
And it's vacuous and surface level. There's no way to
(11:17):
get into the skin or that the mind frame of
a cop or cops that are dealing with somebody who's
being belligerent. And as you said, then as guys start
walking up on you don't walk up on a scene
that's escalated. That's where the accidents happened. The only reason
why this was escalated is because of the decisions made
(11:39):
by tyreek Hill. How many times could you be asked
to get out of your car? How many times can
you be asked to roll down your window? How many
times could you be asked to get on the ground.
I mean, what is the threshold there. I mean, just
like a function in society needs to have laws and rules,
(12:01):
and you need to have people that are paid to
enforce those laws and rules. And if you willingly break
a law, which Tyreek Hill did, then you need to
be deferential with law enforcement. If you're not showing respect
and you're not cooperating, then there are consequences for that.
(12:21):
I'm going to quote a former police officer who happens
to be black, but that shouldn't be important here, and
he sums it up perfectly. His name is Officer Tatum.
The officer Tatum on Wine. You could find him. He
has a massive social media following. He talks about guns
a lot. He talks about law enforcement a lot. This
was his exact reaction to it. Keep the window down.
(12:45):
Why are you rolling the window up? That's an officer
safety issue. They don't know this man. He could be
pulling a gun out. Keep the window down. They asked
you a simple question. You're the one at fault, not them.
I don't know how you could have a functioning society
of laws and rules if the first thing that a
(13:07):
person does is be belligerent towards the people that are
paid to enforced laws. I what are kids being taught
when they see this body cam footage that when they're
pulled over or when an officer approaches be an asshole.
You want to talk about more shootings that are going
to happen, because you're gonna have more escalated situations and
(13:30):
then God knows what happens after that. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know. That's just the surface of my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Prophet, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But yeah, I don't like this whole situation. I think
he acted poorly. On the other hands, I I also
don't want police officers who are afraid of everything out here.
The Kalais Campbell thing really rubbed me the wrong way.
I think at a certain point we give a lot
of power to police officers.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And like what part of the Kalays campbl thing the
w own.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
No, I just I think the answer in there is, sir,
please back up, this is a this is an active situation.
Please stop. Like that's that's That's probably what needs to
be said there. I don't know about being as far
as being deferential to police. It's tough because there's a
video I see posted every Friday by two lawyers who
I like on Twitter, and the name of that video
(14:22):
is shut the fuck Up Friday, and how they describe
how dealing with the police is basically kind of this.
It's I wouldn't say it's hustle and not saying it's
rolling up the window. But you're also not under any
kind of legal obligation to be like you know, they're
They're like, I'm not discussing my day with you. It's tough.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
This is fucking fucked up. Okay, he was doing one
and fifty. Okay, this is not They.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Just rolled up on you talking about this like this
is this is a this is a stop for moving violation.
I just don't want please.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
He's it's not a moving violation, Okay, Let'm moving my
violation Okay, a moving violation. And what you're saying is
like he made an a legal turn. He's got a
light out in a car.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Okay, whatever the differentiation on.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But there's a big difference there. Imagine again, I want
you to here's what being what's the what's the word
called fuck empathetic? Right, It's it's feeling what other people feel. Right.
This is what we're missing, is we have zero empathy
for police officers. Okay, I want you to think about this,
(15:32):
Chris for a second. You're a cop and all of
a sudden, you're riding your motorcycle and it's on a
Super Bowl Sunday. Maybe you're covering in the area. Maybe
you're not. I don't know. A guy goes zipping by. Again,
it's been reported one hundred and three and a fifty.
I don't know if that's accurate. Okay, one hundred and
three and a fifty. So you light him up, okay,
(15:55):
and he pulls over in front of the stadium. Now,
if you're going a hundred in a fifty and you
get pulled over, is that the time to tell a
cop to shut the fuck up? I'm asking a question,
like really, like listen, if they pull you over for
some fucking bullshit.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You know, I've been pulled over several times. Let me
tell you this.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I gotta pulled over plenty got I got a speeding
ticket at three in the morning. I'm driving through a
tiny little town in the Upper Peninsula, Michigan. I had
you know, it's a six hour drive from Traverse City
to Green Bay, Wisconsin. Okay, so I stopped pulled over,
took a nap, okay, got up, got some liquid death Okay,
(16:39):
I got a coffee and I'm driving and I go
through a little town and they clocked me at fifty
three in a thirty five at three in the fucking morning.
So they pulled me over. And I was like, They're like,
do you know why I pull you over? Like I
think I was probably speeding? Yeah, you're going fifty three
and a thirty five. I was like, it's three in
the morning, so yeah, you know, we're just looking for
(16:59):
people who drun. I was like, well, I'll do a
field sobriety, you can do the BAC. I haven't had
a drink. They're like, no, it will just write your
verst speeding ticke. I was like, you can't let me go. No,
What is being a dick going to do for you?
What is telling the officer to shut the fuck up
because you watch some lawyer do it like again, Tyreek
Hill has been convicted of crimes previously. Tyreek Hill is
(17:22):
a multimillion dollar athlete. There's a lot of things going
on here. You get pulled over. What is going to
hurt you from rolling down your window and being polite
and going like, hey man, my bad, sorry I was speeding.
I was wrong. Just you want write to take it,
right to take it if you don't, And honestly, that
sometimes gets you out of a ticket. How possibly? Okay?
(17:42):
And then again, Chris, this is the other thing. So
you're a cop and you knock on a window. If
the guy has a tinted front window on a black car,
you can't see in that car if he goes to
get a gun.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Chris, you want my I mean, you're asking my opinion
on all.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'm not asking your opinion. I'm telling you the fucking
reality of it.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Okay, I'm telling you raw that us too, is that
police have done a lot of things that have kind
of garnered these kind of reactions in the past. There
needs to be an equal, equalized field A lot. I
don't think I understand. Some people just don't trust cops, period.
I I get where that comes from.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We don't trust anybody.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We don't trust and people too.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Again, we don't trust police officers, we don't trust anybody
who's in charge. We don't trust teachers, we don't trust lawyers,
we don't trust presidents, we don't truy and and some
of them also have earned it. They also have earned it.
Like it's fucking hysterical that like the right is going
to sit there and going like say law and order.
(18:44):
Where you're right, there's been plenty of cops, plenty of
other people in charge you, plenty of wrong things. Case
in point, all of all the president's guys are all
fell are are all all carry felonies. So does he
like it's a fucking joke, right, But okay, but dude,
you were using you're using all of that as ammo
(19:08):
towards something which is comically comically.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think one in this situation acted poorly. But I
also think that we can't use tygreek Hill's past like
that cop doesn't psychically know his past in all of
this as well. He's got someone in there, as you say,
is speeding, has tinted windows. He doesn't know what's going on.
On the other hand, there's a lot of reasons where
that could have just not escalated, and somehow we got Estally,
(19:34):
you said to yourself that other cop acted extremely poorly, a.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Grin, you know, he acted extremely aggressively. I didn't say poorly.
I don't know what their protocols are. I do know
that if a guy doesn't want to get out of
a car and you order him out of a car
and he's blacked into windows refusing, you know, refusing to
abide by what you've asked. I don't know if their
police protocols is fucking yank him out because the second
(19:58):
you slow down and go like, I don't know that
the second somebody pulls out a gun and shoots it
that happens.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Is that all worth it over a speeding though? I
think that's ultimately when I'm getting what like I I
keep coming back with it right down the plate or
something like.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Wait, so you want to write down, I tell you
what and send him a ticket in the mail.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I just don't need guys getting tackled and like everyone
going out of their mind.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
All he had to do was leave the window down
and have a conversation that he did have to leave, yes,
and he didn't further he gets down, then he had
it cracked, then he put it all the way up.
Then he refused to put it down and in the
process and said what are you going to do about it?
Like it's not that hard And and in regards to
(20:42):
Klais Campbell, I agree with you. But again, this is
where you need to have empathy for a police officer.
We're dealing with a guy who is a police we
don't know who the fuck he is. He puts he
won't put his window down, he won't comply, and all
of a sudden behind us, a car pulls up and
dudes hop out, Like I actually think they showed a
(21:03):
lot of restraint, because there's a lot of cops that
would all of a sudden they have their weapons going.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That's a problem. No, that's a problem right there, Then
what's the problem? No, I you you want to have
empathy for the police officer's fine, I want to have
empy for them too. I also think that when you
are a police officer and you are given a tremendous
amount of power and given a weapon that can take
lives at will in a split second, you need to
also show with that power comes responsibility for it, and
(21:28):
comes calm for it. Police policing as a profession was beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You have any cops that are friends, You have any
friends on your on your phone that you call right
now that are police officers, because I guarantee you all
of them would say whoever your Chris perfect guy is
out of his fucking mind.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay, but he's just going nuts in this kind and
it's not going don't nobody's going now fearful of the
people they are policing.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know what you have to do. You know what
you have to do, Chris. You have to take all
of the guns that all of America has.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That sounds like a great idea to me. Doug, I'm
all for.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That, but it's never gonna happen, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Okay, So we're in fear of everyone for all of
our I can't do that as a Christian, as a Catholic,
I can't accept that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
The rest of their lives.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Okay. So again, we police officers deal with reality, Okay, reality,
and I want people to understand this. Okay. I'm a
a a radical centrist. I have always been and will
continue to be left leaning. And despite the fact that
the way the Democrats have cowered to some of these
(22:36):
fucking lunatics okay that want to defund the police, and
they don't want to defund the police. Nobody's going to
defund the police, Okay. I was still I'm not voting
for the dude it's not happening. Not happening. He is
a bad person who tried to overthrow the government after
a fair and fair election that he fucking lost. Period, stop,
end of story. Won't have any other discussion about it. Okay,
(22:58):
but but okay, but you're painting the world of a
fantasy world where no cop is going to be in fear.
It's not necessarily fear based. Those guys actually perform their
job really well. In an adverse situation where really popular
person who they didn't fucking know and don't fucking care
who he is, was speeding and was non compliant, and
(23:21):
then other dudes roll up and ask what the deal
is where a bad cop would would put their weapon
right on them and potentially shoot their ass.
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Speaker 2 (23:40):
But the point is that when you're a cop and
your only goal is to go home every night to
your wife and kids, or just to your fucking dog,
it doesn't matter. You have to just like being a
defensive driver and worry about everybody else around you. That's
the thing because they get and I thought, Jason, you
said this to me last night and was really really good.
(24:02):
They get lied to every day, all the time, every day,
all the time. No one has ever said I did it.
They don't do it. They don't come and turn themselves in.
I did it. I apologize, here's my crime, here's my weapon.
I did it. I'm guilty. Conscious that doesn't happen. They
lie about everything. So you can't trust that the guy
(24:24):
who rolls up his window with a tinted car, even
though he's an NFL star with a beautiful necklace around
his waist and he looks around his neck and he
looks like he might be not you can't trust that
he ain't going to his blovebox to get a gun.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Why do we come to the point where we have
bodycams for police?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Then? Huh?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Why did we come to the point where we needed
bodycams for police? Then that always have to be on
and every footage has to be reviewed. Why did we
start doing.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That so we don't have a he said? She said,
because it's pretty obvious that in watching that video, I
have a pretty strong one, I think is reasonable opinion,
and other people do not and that is again how
this is described. But you've had it described by other people. Okay,
think about how it's described by other people, the interaction
(25:07):
that took place. Then watch it actually happen on the
body cam footage, and it gives you a completely different
perspective of it.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Also, that equation is also that we've also had police
lying out here in this game. You can call me
fantastical or idealistic, but I also think that at some
point we have to start stop being so cynical and
start paving a path. That's how every movement has moved
in this country. It may sound fantastical, but at some
point the present cannot hold. Progress has to happen in
(25:37):
some way. That doesn't mean I'm saying progressive. I don't
even think this issue here can be lined up as
either a left or right thing, and I reject those
labels entirely. It's just it's a question of reform. It's
a question of how do we get to this place
where everyone's looking at that footage and taking two very
different wild reactions from it. It's because nobody trusts anyone
anymore in any situation. And I'm just saying like, at
(25:59):
some point there is some onus on the people who
have the response, like the responsibility of that law to
also be responsible for trying to bring some of that
public trust back as well, And an incident like this
erodes it on both sides. It erods it on both sides.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I truly think this. I'm gonna say this in all honesty.
I don't think the cops did anything particularly wrong other
than you know, again, if I don't know their protocols,
and their protocols are he was overly aggressive, that would
be the thing that would be the thing, you know,
(26:38):
I mean, even the I won't sit down. I had
surgery on my knee. I don't know when he had
a scope on his knee. I don't know when that
is okay, But then just sit in the curb, dude.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
That goes back to But that goes back to my point.
That's probably why I said it to you yesterday. People.
Why do these guys all day long you think that
saying I'd got a knee surgery is beyond the scope
of dishonesty in a situation like this, like the cops
don't care about your situation. They certainly don't know who
you are. That's the thing too.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I've also though, seen other police videos where people said, hey,
can I just get my shoes and they let them
get the shoes and nothing happens.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Like I again, just like again, what is the context
of the situation where they go.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I was an arrest at at a apartment complex?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Right, Were they combative from the moment that they were speeding?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
And no, but it was mentally troubled person that they
were arresting.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Every situation is different. That's what's crazy about this entire thing.
Like the situation I think that you're talking about Chris
and why we need body camps and everything. I think
there have been awful situations with awful decisions made by
horrible people, and it puts us in this situation where
no one trusts anyone. I just don't think that incident
on Sunday was one of them. I mean, Miami Daves
(27:56):
sent out a statement before they sent out the body
camps that they said that the officers acted the way
that they should have. Like, so the body cam to
them confirmed that the officers did what they were supposed
to do. That's what's crazy about this. And now the public,
the public fervor afterwards might force this police department to
(28:17):
go back on their original statement and suspend or even
fire these officers. Like, it's kind of shitty world.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
We're living in. And it's also coming in the light
that we just had this this situation where with Scotti Scheffler,
you know, a few months ago, where there were falsities
told by the police of exactly what happened in that incident.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Sure, sure, all fair. Again, you can tell me that
there's police officers on a power trip. I think most
of us have experienced that. I'm willing to believe there's
probably some police officers that are racist. Okay, I haven't
experienced it. I'm sure it does exist to black men.
I don't think this is that case. I don't. I
(28:59):
think this is what happens. And I think Tyreek Hill
then he was on CNN last night like what the
fuck and like and I got to be honest, you like,
I know Drew rose Nous a little bit. This is
what makes people despise Drew Rosenause because there is zero
accountability towards his client.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I was sitting here at the studio that morning and
I saw Drew Rosenhouse first on ESPN with Jeff Darlington
and then within five minutes he was on after finishing that,
he was on NFL network like he went through that,
he went through a car wash.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Here.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Reality, he's a piece of shit for how he's handled this.
He's a piece of shit, okay, because a real dude
would be like, hey, Tyreek was speeding, he was wrong,
he was running late. His children are all hot. That
doesn't excuse it. Now the cop, Now, then you can
go into your whole cop thing about you thought the
cop was way over the top. Whatever you can, but
(29:53):
zero accountability first clients, none, zero, Like there are so
many people that their skin is crawling because they feel
they can't say what I just said because they think
they'll get canceled, fired, whatever. That's actually the saddest part
(30:15):
about this shit is that those officers, who what are
they doing? They're working on a fucking football Sunday. There's
also a part of the body cam footage where somebody goes,
don't you know who that is? That's one of the
Dolphin star players. It's like I don't know, I don't care,
like I don't care, don't know okay, which I think
is mind blowing to me, right, Like you didn't know
(30:36):
it's start. Youll like, look, I'm with you if you
just go like, all you gotta do is roll up
the window and be like, oh tyreek, we are you
doing speed? Man? Fuck? What are you doing? And I'm
going to the game? Are running late? Ah? All right,
I gotta write you a ticket real quick because you
were going one hundred. I'm I'm gonna put it down
a little bit or part of the bodycam footage thing,
which which which screws them up is they can't go
(30:58):
like if you had one hundred and three in a fifty, right,
they can't go, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna drop this
to like seventy and a sixty. So it's it's not
reckless driving. You know, you just pay the fine. I
can't do that anymore because of it. And I think
all of us have had a cop that's like, all right, man,
(31:19):
slow it down or let me just drop it a
couple miles an hour, So it's not a crazy ticket.
But you're right, Chris, we don't trust anybody. The guns
are a big problem. The rhetoric on TV is a
gigantic problem. The behavior of police officers in the past
(31:39):
has been a problem, but again how would you react
if people treat you like shit every single fucking day?
Like that's that's one of the things, like I understand
the black person's perspective, which is like, hey man, how
would you react to people treat you like shit all
the time? Like yeah, okay, that's what it feels like
to be a cop. So some of it is earned,
(32:00):
a lot of it is not. All right, that's it
for the In the Bonus podcast, I'm Doug Gottlieb. We'll
check you tomorrow. This is in the Bonus
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