September 10, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug explains why he is willing to give the Jets and Aaron Rodgers a pass for now after their week one loss. Doug reacts to comments recently made by Jerry Jones about Dak Prescott's contract. Doug and the crew talk about the Jordan Mason incident from Monday night. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a Tuesday edition of "The Press".
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it's it's a really hard one to figure because you know,
the Niners are at home. The Niners are really good.
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The Niners have, you know, an unbelievable defense, Nick Bosa
back healthy, Fred Warner, stud Trent Williams obviously missed camp
but got a new contract, and Samon Brian and Ayuku
dropped that ball in the diving catch in the end zone.
Didn't have CMC but still had you know, most of
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their cornucope of talent. They're playing at home, they're mostly healthy,
and they were pretamn good even if they weren't terribly sharp.
The Jets, you don't have a sound reddick. You're traveling
across the country. You know, Aaron Rodgers has played four
snaps in the last you know, year and a half,
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and a lot of things are new there. So it's
not that the Jets lost and the Niners won. It's
that the Jets weren't really competitive. And I think John
Mittlcoff joined us last hour check out his podcast three out.
I think he pointed out something which I was thinking
but hadn't yet articulated, which is like one of the
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things about Rogers, And there's something about a quarterback and
who can just throw from the pocket, like did Tom
Brady have incredible elasticity in terms of his arm last
night long Shore, but he also he didn't have to
if he lost the step, it didn't matter. He never
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had one, right, Aaron Rodgers checked every box as a quarterback. Tough, smart,
quick release, great accuracy, incredible arm strength, athletic. But now
when you take out the athleticism and I think his
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arms still very strong and mostly accurate. It not as
accurate at times. That's completely changed the dynamic of who
he is as a player. So I guess the question
is what now for the Jets. Here's Aaron Rodgers summing
up the loss.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
Yeah, you know, we were just bad one first and
second down, I think for a lot of the game,
and then you know, we had a couple of drives.
We converted third downs, but overall, you know, we we
we I feel like we didn't have any third and
ten pluses tonight, so that's always a good thing. We
look in the stat sheet, but we didn't convert those
third mediums. You know, we had a drop, we had
a couple penalties, had a bad throw, so not the
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correct but overall, I feel, you know, I feel good
about our guys that the protection was really good tonight.
We just were a little bit off in the in
the run game. Couldn't give brist Co and couldn't give
him enough space. But a lot to build on.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Just a port called Nighters a championship level group. As
somebody has seen a lot of talented Nighters teams, which
said's fiers.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I would, yeah, they are a.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Championship level group, and I hope we see him there.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Here is Robert Salah on how good the forty nine
ers are.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
Anytime you get run on like that, and credit to them,
like I said, they U it's a championship outfit. And
they introduced us to some championship football and we'll get
that pics.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
No, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 10 (04:23):
They were able to run the ball really effectively, especially
on the edge.
Speaker 11 (04:27):
What were the problems you were seeing and having in
those situations where you couldn't get those stops?
Speaker 9 (04:31):
Now they you know, they still have a stab little backs.
But but at the same time, it's a you know,
they're very very good upfront and from an efficiency standpoint,
they they beat us up front playing and simple.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That's a that's a that's a big problem. It's a
big problem. Here's Garrett Wilson. He had a pretty bluntway
putting it.
Speaker 12 (04:50):
We gotta go, we gotta go, prepare, get better every
every week, every day, every hut truly, because we're not.
We're not there yet. They they they whipped our ass
today and the reality of it, and we got to
find a way to get better. You know, the great
teams will bounce back from this, and that's what we're planning.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
To do, all right, So like we'll see.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I encourage all of us.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And you know, Profet, I don't know how many years
you've been doing this for, but I know that Jay
Stewart's twenty five plus years in the business. Twenty plus
years in the business for Dan as well as myself.
Is what we've learned about the NFL is anything we
think week one, we see differently a lot of times
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week two. Right, So let's give I will give the
Jets at least this is the benefit of the doubt. Hey,
you got a week to show me differently, because again,
what I see is I see a quarterback who still good,
not superstar the way he was. Some good pieces, but
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not a great overall cast. And as as confident bordalining,
I'm bordally on arrogant as the defense was last year.
It seems to be missing that right now. And remember,
like now, when you play a team, any team in
the NFL, but a team like the Niners, where you
really got to figure it out and show everything you
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got all that tape, the rest of the league was watching,
and whatever they were doing up front, more so than
just having better personnel than you to move you around,
everyone's gonna copy. So there's a lot of work to
be done. It's just one of those things where I
thought we did a good job this summer of not
over discussing the Jets because I just don't think the
Jets are very good, and last night they lived down
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to whatever that reputation actually is.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Buyer, What hope do you see?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, is this just a they walked into a
buzzsaw better team ready to play and knock the crap
out of them, or is it just one game and
we'll see a different team this week.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think it's just one game for the Jets.
Speaker 11 (07:00):
It's funny because I actually I am glad that you
said what you said about Rogers, because I've seen nothing
but raver reviews on how Rogers looked, and I thought
he looked very stiff last night, and one of the
great things about his career has been his ability to
move to scramble to get runs on first down, aside
from his incredible accuracy and maybe the best thrower of
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the football that we've ever seen. But I do think
it is a one off game, which we had talked about.
This is the toughest game the Jets will have on
their schedule the entire season. You don't get much more
difficult than going on the road cross country to San
Francisco and to start the season. So I'm giving the
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Jets the benefit of the doubt on their performance last night,
and specifically their defensive performance.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
But if that doesn't get better, then there's.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
No way that you can expect Robert solad to return
next season, because that's supposed to be his baby.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Supposed to be supposed to be. Yeah, I'm I'm. I'm
of the mindset that you get you do, you get
one more week, and then after that one more week,
we can start making really hard and fast assessments, you know,
and being being fair but also still being critical at
the same time.
Speaker 11 (08:16):
Yeah, there's there's a there's a part too with Rogers
in this in Nathaniel Hackett in this dynamic is whatever
the offense is is, that's the best that it's going
to look, because no one knows it better than Aaron
Rodgers and he has his input with it as well,
So there's also a maxing out portion of of how
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the offense is going to look. Hopefully their offensive line
is better than it was last year and Rogers can
continue to play and stay upright. But you know, they're
obviously going to need Rogers to do it because he
maximizes everything they do. And again, tough night last night.
Even if the forty nine ers had all the drama
they had in the offseason, it's tough to expect in
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a sharp performance as well, considering the lack of action
that Rogers had in the preseason. But he seemed to
fare pretty well. So I'm giving them a bit of
a pass on Week one. I'd say the first month
or so. If we get into October and they're having
some of these same issues, then I'd start to be
concerned if I was a Jets fan.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Dan Bayer. What about you, profet?
Speaker 13 (09:25):
Yeah, so you were asking, Well, I've been covering the
NFL for about ten years, and I will say I
agree with you.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Week one.
Speaker 13 (09:33):
It's especially as we cut back the preseason and guys
starting you never know what you're gonna get out week
one or for a lot of September football at this point.
So I agree with Dan that I think there's definitely
a wait and see approach when it comes to the Jets.
One thing that does concern me a bit is just
and this is kind of hard to qualify, but it
just feels like, I mean, we played that Garrett Wilson
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clip and then we played the Robert Solid clips. The
vibes just kind of seem bad right out of the gate.
You take this one on the chin and it's just
you've either got one side of your team saying like,
oh yeah, that's a good team we played over there,
which I think is the right assessment, and then you've
got others who are like, no, we got our ass kicked.
Like it feels like in watching the reactions in New
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York today, which are never good for the Jets, but
I do think this is one that kind of sticks
with them if there's something that's going to bite them
a little bit early. It is this sense that they
have something to prove and it is going to kind
of weigh them down if they just cannot get some
sort of wins early on, like to at least prove
to themselves. I don't care about proving it to New York,
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but at least approved to themselves that this is a
championship team that they will be there. Kind of funny
the reporter mentioning, you know, to Aaron Rodgers, you've seen
a lot of Championship forty nine ers teams. Yeah, because
the usually they beat you in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, I know it did just say, but for
a Lions fan who's had exactly one game of success
in the last thirty years in the playoffs, that's a
lot of That's a lot of good trash talk.
Speaker 14 (11:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I want to come on that, like, look, my I
just buyer. I think you and I are very much aligned.
I'm I'm I'm willing to give it another couple of weeks.
But I have not heard rave reviews on Salah in
the past, and God, they couldn't stop anybody. It's one
thing everybody says, well, you don't have a sound Rittick,
I granted, but they couldn't stop the run and that's
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not like his area of strength. They just kind of
got punked a little bit. And that was without without
Christian McCaffrey. But it is just one game. It is
all the way across the country. They do have a
second road game. Let's see what happens. But I'm I'm
not willing to punt, but I definitely think that people
who thought they were going to win this division when
you remember, the Bills are good, the Dolphins are good,
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and and maybe they're not great, but they at least
both know who they are.
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Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well Smashing Pumpkins for you, Doug Gottlieb show, You're on
Fox Sports Radio, Profet. I saw Smashing Pumpkins at we
have an iHeart Theater which is in Burbank. Yeah, have
you ever been?
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I have yet to been.
Speaker 13 (12:26):
I've I've signed up a few times for the internal
ticket giveaways and never won one of them.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Ask your boy, Okay, next time you want to go
ask your boy.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
We'll do.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I don't have many things that I can offer people,
but the good line on some good contracts. Jace Dou
Have you been to the iHeart Theater?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I have.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I saw.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I saw Food Fighters, which was incredible, and then I
saw a band called The Head and the Heart, which
was an alternative band that I like a lot. Both
of them were spectacular and you can't beat the vantage point.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean it's it's like a thousand people. It's
like a thousand people. Yeah, and usually they do it
like album release party, and so I've seen anybody from
Charlie Pooth to Green Day. Right before Covid, I saw
Green Day because they were launching a new album. They're
gonna go on tour, and then obviously that got canceled.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (13:20):
I think the last one I applied for the tickets
for was I think it was Cage the Elephant was
there and that sounded I think I'm pretty sure that
was an album release as well.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But it's just I mean, Smashing Pumpkins was so good. God,
they're so talented. He's so talented. He's weird, but he's
a musician, so he's he's weird. You guys, I'll give
you the update of my daughter Grace, who's who's at
Berkeley School of Music and she's like, Dad, I set
it on four Jam Sessions yesterday. I mean, so it's
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gotta be pretty cool, right when like, all you want
to do is play music and you go to school
and all they do is music.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yeah, big win for Cal two this weekend.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, different by yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Is that I'm I did not realize. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's okay, got it anyway, doug out the show here
on Fox Sports Radio. But yeah, it's it's cool to
talk to your kid. And where's my other daughters at
Oklahoma State? And she's on the questioning team and they
do they do like training, and she's like, I'm so swored.
I'm so tired because they've been like lifting weights and
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doing running.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
She's like, I just ride horses stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I do.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Think it's time talking about the cowboys.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Let's talk about the cowboys. Why, Well, because they're the cowboys.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Cowboy Well I heard this.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
This is Jerry Jones talking about Dak Prescott's contract on
his radio hit This Morning. Take a listen.
Speaker 14 (15:02):
Okay, any time that we've ever made players that has
played the player, key players such as Troy Egman, the
most high speeded player in the game. We won Super Bowl.
Speaker 15 (15:17):
Do you ever worry that someone is just going to say,
I want out here's my trade demand, I want out
of here?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Do you or do you never worry about that?
Speaker 15 (15:27):
And why do you think we really haven't had it
happen with a superstar around here when the negotiations may
not go their way initially?
Speaker 14 (15:34):
Well, I've never seen anybody get their feelings hurt enough
that the money couldn't cure.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That's so good, that's so good. They're all mad.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you slide that number over this a little bit
more than they thought they were going to get? So look,
I just we haven't talked Dak Prescott contract. I don't
like it. I just don't. It's the same note. I mean,
at least Jerry's consistent, right, It's like I would have
bounced Mike McCarthy and hired Bill Belichick in a second. Why, Like,
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you want to win a Super Bowl? Who gives you
a better chance? And yeah, I like, I don't know
who's out there instead of Dak Prescott, But I do
know that. I mean, you're still stuck with Dak Prescott
and that contract is sizable, and maybe like, well, we
got the experience, we got the leadership. Great, you've had
all those things and not and he's played poorly in
your last two playoff losses. Like what more do we
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need to see? But Jerry is consistent. His guys are
his guys, and he gives them a longer lease than
anybody else. Yes, Jase do so.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
The first SoundBite we played, he said that every time
he's given a player the most money for their position,
they've won a super Bowl. And then he mentions Troy
Yikman like, I don't know about you guys, but my
old man, he once said to me, and this was
just about five years ago. He was like he was
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struggling with the smartphone. He's like, I just want a phone.
That's a phone. I don't want to have to do
all this other stuff. And I'm like, Dad, that's a
bad take, man. The only thing that take is telling
us is that you're very old. I'll say the same thing,
Jerry Jones. You can't go around saying every time I
make someone the highest paid player, we win a super Bowl.
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Cause it was nineteen ninety five, a lot of people
were not alive back then.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
True, I love.
Speaker 14 (17:31):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
One of the things I miss with with my dad
so much is the is like when you explain something
to your dad, it's a really weird feeling. My dad
used to always say, like he loved Colin Love Colin
couldn't stand Sports Nation. I don't like that Sports Nation show.
I know you like the Beatle Girl. She seems very nice,
(17:52):
but I just don't like that show. I was like, Dad,
it's a clips show. It's not designed for you. He's like, well,
I'm a sports fan. It's like this, I'm for younger people. Well, no,
wonder like you just you know, so I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I love.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I love explaining things to my father that that that
could have been a great TV show back in the day.
Can you tell me that rule again?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
With the with the out of bounds thing.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
So if there is a foul on a play that
or and it is the ball goes out of bounds,
so they do an out of bounds review on it,
you can call a foul if it occurred on that play.
They're citing the Kyrie irving Jaden McDaniel's call during the
Mavericks Timberwolf series as being the the reason why this
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rule is being implemented.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah. I mean that's the problem when they go back
to those things is sometimes you find something else and
you're not really allowed to you're really not allowed to
to to go back and change it. But it is
weird that you can do a foul but there's other
things you can do. But I completely agree with that
because that's a big thing as you go back to like, well,
went off him, like yeah, but foul. That's why I
went off him.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Sure sense, yes, yes, absolutely, And there's the.
Speaker 11 (19:09):
You're you're you're one hundred percent right, But I just wonder,
how do you I guess this would happen with the
call in the court because there's usually a happy medium,
right like if someone's ball, you know hand, you have
the ball in your hands and someone knocks it out,
but it stays your possession. Okay, no harm, no foul,
it's your ball. They're not going to call a foul.
But I wonder if that happy medium is taken away.
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I do like the fact of this of this play
because on this play, Jade McDaniel's got the ball, Kyrie
fouled them went out of bounds. It was off of
the Timberwolves and the Mavericks got the ball, so it
was a win win for the Mavericks. But I just
wonder if that will have any effect on this kind
of those happy mediums no harm, no foul call.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I can tell you
that there's there are certain there's certain calls that are made,
like in basketball, a lot of times instead of calling
a f they just give you the ball. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
And again I don't know how they worked that out,
but maybe they do.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
And it'll be interesting like if the if the official
had gotten the call correctly here, he could have just said,
you know what, it's uh, Minnesota ball, you know, Minnesota
ball right here, and then they would review it and
then you could say, all right, Minnesota ball, no harm,
no foul, or they could assess that foul to to
Kyrie Irving. But I think here what they gave possession
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to Dallas in that scenario and then could not call
the foul on Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Agreed and that's Dan Byer with with an update. This
is so funny. Now, do you guys hear what Jordan
Mason said after the game when he was asked when
he knew that he was going to be starting running back.
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Take a listen. This is Jordan Mason's response, why did you.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Find out that you're going to be starting?
Speaker 16 (21:02):
Well, I'm not found out. Maybe Friday, Friday night, you know,
something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay, So all of a sudden people are like what,
here's Kyle shanean after the game.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Jordan's said after the game he was told on Friday
night and he was going to start.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
When did Christian start feeling a cry? I never told
Jordan he was going to start.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
Told him he had to be ready a bunch. But
I might have been Bobby or somebody trying to pump
him up, but I knew he was gonna have to
play a lot and told him that he was gonna
have to. It wasn't going to be like usual. He's
going to be a number two back that was splitting
a lot of the time. But now he didn't know
he for sure was doing that till the day.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And then this was I thought this was kind of sad.
This is Jordan Mason at the press conference afterwards.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
When did you find out that you'd be in the
starting lineup?
Speaker 16 (21:48):
That question right there is while I'm at uh, that's
why I'm like really talking to media because you say
one thing wrong and then you know, I don't know,
just give that question.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, so obviously he said something that he was told
he shouldn't have said, you know. And this is it's
really interesting on how coaches talk and what we are
supposed to mean and say. And look, I'll be honest
with you. I try and be I've told my parents
and guys I recruit, try and be like, this is
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a college basketball coaching is like slightly below that of
used car salesman in terms of people believing what you
say to be true? Like what do you do? Like
I'm in marketing? What do you do? Like I'm in sales?
What do you do like I'm a college basketball coach?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (22:41):
Really?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, it's like what anyway? But there are things
in which we can't say, Like there are things I'll
give example, we I am big on having the ability
to have mental health care for play. Like I got
guys from I got one from Senegal, one from Australia,
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one from Israel. Right there, far from home. I got
one from Oklahoma, one from Oakland, one from Orange County.
Right it's gonna get one from Province Roland. It's gonna
get cold, it's gonna get hard, so maybe you need
somebody to talk to. I cannot set up nor mandate
that a player goes to seek psychological help of any kind,
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even if he badly needs it. It has to be optional,
not mandatory. My own son said, like he didn't know
if he wanted to switch into weightlifting with his basketball coach,
only because not because he didn't want to do it,
but it makes it so he has a seven period
day where he gets he goes into school and once
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practice starts, they go and set practice seven to nine
and they have weightlifting nine to ten, but then they're
there till four o'clock. He's like, that's a long day
for me.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But that's the deal point is he's like, well said
it's optional. It's like, eh, they can only say it's optional,
it's really mandatory. Right, So there's way and Kyle may
not have said you're the starter, but I also think
that you know Mason isn't a dope and doesn't know
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what he meant Jordan Mason, And then we act like
Jordan Mason's a bad guy for telling the truth when
he didn't know he's supposed to lie.
Speaker 11 (24:27):
Yeah, that's the crazy part about it, Doug, is that
here Jordan Mason has the game of his life and
on national TV and helps the team, you know, get
this huge win, and now it's completely marred by the
forty nine ers trying to you know, want to and
game the New York Jets and in that fashion game
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the betting markets and really the fantasy world as well.
This is a huge deal in fantasy football. It has
so many different ramifications. And here's Jordan Mason, who never
and his wildest dreams probably thought he'd be able to
have one hundred and forty seven yards at a touchdown on
Monday Night Football and is now being chastised by the
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Niners because the Niners didn't want to divulge Christian McCaffrey's
true injury situation.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's absurd.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Don't you feel bad when he says, this is why
I don't like dealing with the media. I mean, we
always just assume that these people in the spotlight and
you know, public figures all just like to speak in public,
and they're good doing it and they're comfortable. Jordan Mason,
obviously is very uncomfortable in this setting. He had the
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game of his wife and he just was he was
comfortable at the wrong time on national TV, and he's
been vilified for it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, I don't I don't even think the question and
I think it was Lisa Salters who asked him. I
don't even think the question was designed.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It wasn't.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
It was just it was like it was one of
those I'm sure she thought, like somebody called him on
the way to the game.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Exactly like today, when did you find out?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Like at dinner whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He's like Friday, She's like what, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I don't think there was anything wrong with the question.
Speaker 13 (26:11):
It's just that everyone else had the reaction, and then
that reaction thus has to have the follow up question.
The whole point we have these injury reports and like
the whole stickling point about when they have to be
out is just this it's gambling and everything else. It
hearkens back to a time when there were guys trying
to before we had the injury reports out, and it
(26:33):
was a whole bunch of messive guys calling around and
meddling to trying to find out who was in these games.
And this was supposed to be an option for transparency.
And there's a little bit maybe of the forty nine
ers gaming in a bit. I don't know if that's
right or wrong, but it's uh. I think I see
where the controversy comes from.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
At least.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't think it's a controversy. I think it's I mean,
it's like, like Dan pointed out, it's basically the Niners
trying to you know, it's gamesmanship. We're not going to
tell you so you can change how what your look is, whatever,
change your assumption of our you know. And and I
actually don't mind the Niners not caring about either the
(27:15):
betting market or the fantasy football market. But it should
be pointed out that that's one of the reasons that
so many changes have been made to the injury report, right,
is so that you can't do this because like and
we can act like it's all about the all about
(27:36):
the game, the sacty sports, and it is. But like, look,
and this is the hard part is that gambling and
fantasy football, that's tradition.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Truthfully, that's what pays the bills.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like we always say fans pay the bills, but the
reality is, like football is the reason football is so
popular is, yeah, it's awesome, it's easy to watch, it's
great on TV. But let's cut down to it best
tax easiest to bet on, easiest to plan for, best
for fantasy football, fantasy sports. Even though baseball kind of
invented the fantasy world, it's just too many games to
keep up with and to completely what's the word marginalize
(28:16):
The importance of presenting legitimate injury reports marginalizes the fantasy
and the betting world, which they're paying billions of dollars
to get that information. So I feel bad for the
kid because, like you said, like we all said, like, bro,
(28:37):
that's his first big time interview. He was deer in
the headlights. He was incredibly gracious and thoughtful, like everything
about it was great. There was no bad. And then
all of a sudden, she's like, when'd you find out?
And everybody was like, like, was it? The morning was
on the way? Was he warming up?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's like Friday, like what excuse me?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And then he goes up there and it's like he
it was like he had done something wrong when he
had done nothing wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Correct. Yep. Yeah, that's that's why I think we all
feel bad for him.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I feel bad for I feel terrible for him.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You painted it perfectly, like here's the game of his life,
National TV Week one against the Jets. Huge numbers, you know,
Payton and Eli and Bill Belichick doing their thing on ESPN,
and on ABC it's you know, Troy Aikman and Joe
Buck and everybody's talking about how awesome this kid is.
And by the end of it, Scott Van Peltz like
they might have a second back there and I might
(29:28):
split some time there in San Francisco, Like, man, we're
talking crazy about Jordan Mason, and we treat him like
he did something wrong because somebody asked him when he
found out he was starting or going to play more,
and he was like Friday, I don't feel bad for
the dude. I know he played great.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Jason.
Speaker 11 (29:45):
Did you have something to add I've got I got
two things to add to this because it allows me
to pob our latest episode if I want your flex
out now. We recorded it after the Monday night game
Mike Carmen and myself Fantasy podcast, and we dealt with
a lot of this stuff. But there are fantasy players
out there that had five points and they had Christian
(30:06):
McCaffrey going on or needed five points and they had
Christian McCaffrey going on Monday Night and then lost their
matchup because they didn't have the handcuff of Jordan Mason.
It's actually something Mike and I get into, and handcuffing
was such a popular phrase ten years ago in fantasy football,
and you're probably not doing it as much as you
are now, But the forty nine ers are one of
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the few teams where you would actually want to handcuff
your guy because of their system. So that was a huge,
huge deal in the fantasy world on if you did
or if you didn't have Jordan Mason as your backup
to Christian McCaffrey, ruined a lot of weak ones for people,
or made great week ones if you were facing a
team that had Christian McCaffrey and you were up and
you didn't have to worry about Monday Night. But I
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think it also shows you, Doug is the conversation that
you mentioned is, Yeah, now everybody's saying, do they have
a two back system in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I think it's showing that the forty niners are doing
what we all think it is and we all know
what it is, and that is they are all in
for the season, so risking Christian McCaffrey in a Week
one game against the Jets is just not worth it.
And this is a team that tried to get Christian
McCaffrey a touchdown streak last year in a game against
the Jaguars where they you know, had him in late
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in the fourth quarter, trying for him to break an
NFL record. And I actually commend the forty nine ers
for doing what they did because that, to me, is
a direct opposite of what they did for Jacksonville ast year.
You could have got Christian McCaffrey hurt and just chasing
a stupid record at that time. But this show is
all right, we're gonna need Christian McCaffrey for the long
haul the second half of the season, and they played
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it safe for them last night, and I think that
shows a sign of growth with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Case do you want to get in here?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
He may have tapped out, I was christ wants in.
Speaker 13 (31:51):
Yeah, I will say from a gambling side at least,
like I believe Kyle Shanahan when he says that, I think,
you know, Mason just kind of.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I don't at all. I don't believe Chris.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
What I mean, Well, I just want to say you
were born at night, not last night.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
That's that's fair, Okay. I guess that my larger point
I didn't I didn't tell him.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I said, I said to be ready, and he's But
I think.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (32:14):
But either way, I think the larger point is that
because I also saw this earlier today that like the
Auburn quarterback Peyton Thorn was saying, he has people like
demanding him pay them venmo.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Because he ruined their parlays.
Speaker 13 (32:26):
There's so much heat and so many people who have
jumped into the sports betting world all of the sudden
that a comment like this just gets further amplified by
a lot of people who have jumped in with no
real experience with sports gambling, and now they see a
comment like that and they are I mean they they
(32:48):
were the ones who probably put Carlaiser props on on
McCaffrey and they're they're they're they're mad too, they're ticked
off too, and this just amplifies and puts pressure on
Mason Moore where it shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, I think it's interesting you bring up the Auburn quarterback.
And I've said this on air and I've said it
on social media, and I mean it is that the
proliferation of gambling and now as it moves and now
paying college student athletes going to change the energy towards
those guys. If it hasn't already, you know, it just
just is just is.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
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get out.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
There and pressed that.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
The press.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That was a tease from what you're gonna hear with
the Dan Byer.
Speaker 11 (33:58):
Yeah, Doug, I rarely rarely ever do this, but I'm
going to do it today because I just can't get
over this piece of audio that I think is an
enormous SoundBite, because it is so it is so demeaning
to not one, but two quarterbacks. And again, this was
(34:18):
yesterday Titans head coach Brian Callahan talking to reporters after
he saw the Bears defense score the two touchdowns for
Chicago and the Titans blow that lead against the Bears.
This was the Titans head coach talking about, I guess
his team's offensive performance and also takes a complete swat
(34:40):
at Caleb Williams of the Bears.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
It was situational.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
I just we were playing so good on defense that
it's almost as if, I mean, if we just punted
it on first and ten every time, we might have
won the game of the way that you know, we
gave it away.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
So I fight it.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
We want honest even the coaches. That was honesty. Y.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It was the hey, what if we ran the water
boy offense right punt on second down play to our defense.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
It's such a shot at will Levis and the Titans
offense to be like, yeah, we probably should have punted,
And I know he's trying to, you know, complement his
defense and saying, hey, we could have just had our
defense out there and they would have been just fine.
But it is will Levis's offense that turned the ball
over twice. And it's also saying, yeah, Cayleb Williams. He
didn't throw for one hundred yards against us, and you
(35:27):
could have continued to do it.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I just I love it.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
I'm surprised that it hasn't gone as viral as it has,
and I just wanted to play it again today.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I think it's because of the Tyreek Hill stuff.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
Yeah, I think so too. I think that week won
a lot of stuff. And honestly, I think it's because
it's the Titans.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, Titans, nobody cares.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
Yeah, yes, So some more details on these citations given
to Tyreek Hill. He'd faced one hundred and seventy nine
dollars fine for that careless driving citation that he got
one hundred and twenty nine dollars on the seat belt
viola seatbelt violation. So the fines with total three hundred
and eight dollars now on the police report. Police estimated
(36:03):
that Hill was going around sixty miles per hour in
an area that had heavy traffic of pedestrians and vehicles.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But yeah, there there's construction, there's cones was right by
the stadium.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
There's video of it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
He was zipping by. He's clearly going a lot faster
than everybody else, but that that takes away from the
previously and I even said it. The idea that he
was going one hundred in a fifty he appeared to
be going sixty in a twenty five, I think is what.
Speaker 11 (36:30):
Yeah, And here's here's my point about it, though, if
there was no gun on him, they didn't have any
radar or anything like that, would he have just would
have just given him a seatbelt violation? Another one hundred
and seventy nine extra, doesn't care. But yeah, no, totally
to that point of there was no gun. So if
he would have just.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Just put down your window and be nice, hey man,
my bad, I'm just I'm trying to get to the stadium,
you know.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
But the cost, the reason why Dan gave that update
is because it's being made a big deal and the
and how it's being positioned. Is all of that for
one hundred and fifty bucks or three hundred and thirty bucks.
All of the police had to rough up a guy
for three hundred and thirty dollars in citations, and they
just forget about everything that happened in between. It's like,
(37:17):
who cares for the reason he got pulled over? It's
what he did after he got pulled totally.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I look at it much like you do, you guys,
you do Dan, which is the and I think Jaysu
your your more lying lines of this, Like I look
at it as the like, dude, all you had to
do is put down your window, be cordial. Worst case scenario,
you pay that fine. Okay, best case scenario, you probably
don't pay anything.
Speaker 11 (37:38):
Yeah, you probably wouldn't even have got a ticket for
t I would even got the wouldn't have had the
you know.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
But but we choose to look at it from the
opposite side, which is so bizarre how we got to
this point.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
That's suppress.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
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it's it's a really hard one to figure because you know,
the Niners are at home. The Niners are really good.
(01:07):
The Niners have, you know, an unbelievable defense, Nick Bosa
back healthy, Fred Warner, stud Trent Williams obviously missed camp
but got a new contract, and Samon Brian and Ayuku
dropped that ball in the diving catch in the end zone.
Didn't have CMC but still had you know, most of
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their cornucope of talent. They're playing at home, they're mostly healthy,
and they were pretamn good even if they weren't terribly sharp.
The Jets, you don't have a sound reddick. You're traveling
across the country. You know, Aaron Rodgers has played four
snaps in the last you know, year and a half,
(01:51):
and a lot of things are new there. So it's
not that the Jets lost and the Niners won. It's
that the Jets weren't really competitive. And I think John
Mittlcoff joined us last hour check out his podcast three out.
I think he pointed out something which I was thinking
but hadn't yet articulated, which is like one of the
(02:13):
things about Rogers, And there's something about a quarterback and
who can just throw from the pocket, like did Tom
Brady have incredible elasticity in terms of his arm last
night long Shore, but he also he didn't have to
if he lost the step, it didn't matter. He never
(02:34):
had one, right, Aaron Rodgers checked every box as a quarterback. Tough, smart,
quick release, great accuracy, incredible arm strength, athletic. But now
when you take out the athleticism and I think his
(02:56):
arms still very strong and mostly accurate. It not as
accurate at times. That's completely changed the dynamic of who
he is as a player. So I guess the question
is what now for the Jets. Here's Aaron Rodgers summing
up the loss.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
Yeah, you know, we were just bad one first and
second down, I think for a lot of the game,
and then you know, we had a couple of drives.
We converted third downs, but overall, you know, we we
we I feel like we didn't have any third and
ten pluses tonight, so that's always a good thing. We
look in the stat sheet, but we didn't convert those
third mediums. You know, we had a drop, we had
a couple penalties, had a bad throw, so not the
(03:40):
correct but overall, I feel, you know, I feel good
about our guys that the protection was really good tonight.
We just were a little bit off in the in
the run game. Couldn't give brist Co and couldn't give
him enough space. But a lot to build on.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Just a port called Nighters a championship level group. As
somebody has seen a lot of talented Nighters teams, which
said's fiers.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I would, yeah, they are a.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Championship level group, and I hope we see him there.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Here is Robert Salah on how good the forty nine
ers are.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
Anytime you get run on like that, and credit to them,
like I said, they U it's a championship outfit. And
they introduced us to some championship football and we'll get
that pics.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
No, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 10 (04:23):
They were able to run the ball really effectively, especially
on the edge.
Speaker 11 (04:27):
What were the problems you were seeing and having in
those situations where you couldn't get those stops?
Speaker 9 (04:31):
Now they you know, they still have a stab little backs.
But but at the same time, it's a you know,
they're very very good upfront and from an efficiency standpoint,
they they beat us up front playing and simple.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That's a that's a that's a big problem. It's a
big problem. Here's Garrett Wilson. He had a pretty bluntway
putting it.
Speaker 12 (04:50):
We gotta go, we gotta go, prepare, get better every
every week, every day, every hut truly, because we're not.
We're not there yet. They they they whipped our ass
today and the reality of it, and we got to
find a way to get better. You know, the great
teams will bounce back from this, and that's what we're planning.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
To do, all right, So like we'll see.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I encourage all of us.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And you know, Profet, I don't know how many years
you've been doing this for, but I know that Jay
Stewart's twenty five plus years in the business. Twenty plus
years in the business for Dan as well as myself.
Is what we've learned about the NFL is anything we
think week one, we see differently a lot of times
(05:30):
week two. Right, So let's give I will give the
Jets at least this is the benefit of the doubt. Hey,
you got a week to show me differently, because again,
what I see is I see a quarterback who still good,
not superstar the way he was. Some good pieces, but
(05:52):
not a great overall cast. And as as confident bordalining,
I'm bordally on arrogant as the defense was last year.
It seems to be missing that right now. And remember,
like now, when you play a team, any team in
the NFL, but a team like the Niners, where you
really got to figure it out and show everything you
(06:16):
got all that tape, the rest of the league was watching,
and whatever they were doing up front, more so than
just having better personnel than you to move you around,
everyone's gonna copy. So there's a lot of work to
be done. It's just one of those things where I
thought we did a good job this summer of not
over discussing the Jets because I just don't think the
Jets are very good, and last night they lived down
(06:39):
to whatever that reputation actually is.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Buyer, What hope do you see?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, is this just a they walked into a
buzzsaw better team ready to play and knock the crap
out of them, or is it just one game and
we'll see a different team this week.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think it's just one game for the Jets.
Speaker 11 (07:00):
It's funny because I actually I am glad that you
said what you said about Rogers, because I've seen nothing
but raver reviews on how Rogers looked, and I thought
he looked very stiff last night, and one of the
great things about his career has been his ability to
move to scramble to get runs on first down, aside
from his incredible accuracy and maybe the best thrower of
(07:22):
the football that we've ever seen. But I do think
it is a one off game, which we had talked about.
This is the toughest game the Jets will have on
their schedule the entire season. You don't get much more
difficult than going on the road cross country to San
Francisco and to start the season. So I'm giving the
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Jets the benefit of the doubt on their performance last night,
and specifically their defensive performance.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
But if that doesn't get better, then there's.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
No way that you can expect Robert solad to return
next season, because that's supposed to be his baby.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Supposed to be supposed to be. Yeah, I'm I'm. I'm
of the mindset that you get you do, you get
one more week, and then after that one more week,
we can start making really hard and fast assessments, you know,
and being being fair but also still being critical at
the same time.
Speaker 11 (08:16):
Yeah, there's there's a there's a part too with Rogers
in this in Nathaniel Hackett in this dynamic is whatever
the offense is is, that's the best that it's going
to look, because no one knows it better than Aaron
Rodgers and he has his input with it as well,
So there's also a maxing out portion of of how
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the offense is going to look. Hopefully their offensive line
is better than it was last year and Rogers can
continue to play and stay upright. But you know, they're
obviously going to need Rogers to do it because he
maximizes everything they do. And again, tough night last night.
Even if the forty nine ers had all the drama
they had in the offseason, it's tough to expect in
(09:00):
a sharp performance as well, considering the lack of action
that Rogers had in the preseason. But he seemed to
fare pretty well. So I'm giving them a bit of
a pass on Week one. I'd say the first month
or so. If we get into October and they're having
some of these same issues, then I'd start to be
concerned if I was a Jets fan.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Dan Bayer. What about you, profet?
Speaker 13 (09:25):
Yeah, so you were asking, Well, I've been covering the
NFL for about ten years, and I will say I
agree with you.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Week one.
Speaker 13 (09:33):
It's especially as we cut back the preseason and guys
starting you never know what you're gonna get out week
one or for a lot of September football at this point.
So I agree with Dan that I think there's definitely
a wait and see approach when it comes to the Jets.
One thing that does concern me a bit is just
and this is kind of hard to qualify, but it
just feels like, I mean, we played that Garrett Wilson
(09:54):
clip and then we played the Robert Solid clips. The
vibes just kind of seem bad right out of the gate.
You take this one on the chin and it's just
you've either got one side of your team saying like,
oh yeah, that's a good team we played over there,
which I think is the right assessment, and then you've
got others who are like, no, we got our ass kicked.
Like it feels like in watching the reactions in New
(10:16):
York today, which are never good for the Jets, but
I do think this is one that kind of sticks
with them if there's something that's going to bite them
a little bit early. It is this sense that they
have something to prove and it is going to kind
of weigh them down if they just cannot get some
sort of wins early on, like to at least prove
to themselves. I don't care about proving it to New York,
(10:38):
but at least approved to themselves that this is a
championship team that they will be there. Kind of funny
the reporter mentioning, you know, to Aaron Rodgers, you've seen
a lot of Championship forty nine ers teams. Yeah, because
the usually they beat you in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, I know it did just say, but for
a Lions fan who's had exactly one game of success
in the last thirty years in the playoffs, that's a
lot of That's a lot of good trash talk.
Speaker 14 (11:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I want to come on that, like, look, my I
just buyer. I think you and I are very much aligned.
I'm I'm I'm willing to give it another couple of weeks.
But I have not heard rave reviews on Salah in
the past, and God, they couldn't stop anybody. It's one
thing everybody says, well, you don't have a sound Rittick,
I granted, but they couldn't stop the run and that's
(11:30):
not like his area of strength. They just kind of
got punked a little bit. And that was without without
Christian McCaffrey. But it is just one game. It is
all the way across the country. They do have a
second road game. Let's see what happens. But I'm I'm
not willing to punt, but I definitely think that people
who thought they were going to win this division when
you remember, the Bills are good, the Dolphins are good,
(11:51):
and and maybe they're not great, but they at least
both know who they are.
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Speaker 5 (12:43):
I have.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I saw.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I saw Food Fighters, which was incredible, and then I
saw a band called The Head and the Heart, which
was an alternative band that I like a lot. Both
of them were spectacular and you can't beat the vantage point.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I mean it's it's like a thousand people. It's
like a thousand people. Yeah, and usually they do it
like album release party, and so I've seen anybody from
Charlie Pooth to Green Day. Right before Covid, I saw
Green Day because they were launching a new album. They're
gonna go on tour, and then obviously that got canceled.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (13:20):
I think the last one I applied for the tickets
for was I think it was Cage the Elephant was
there and that sounded I think I'm pretty sure that
was an album release as well.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But it's just I mean, Smashing Pumpkins was so good. God,
they're so talented. He's so talented. He's weird, but he's
a musician, so he's he's weird. You guys, I'll give
you the update of my daughter Grace, who's who's at
Berkeley School of Music and she's like, Dad, I set
it on four Jam Sessions yesterday. I mean, so it's
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gotta be pretty cool, right when like, all you want
to do is play music and you go to school
and all they do is music.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yeah, big win for Cal two this weekend.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, different by yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Is that I'm I did not realize. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's okay, got it anyway, doug out the show here
on Fox Sports Radio. But yeah, it's it's cool to
talk to your kid. And where's my other daughters at
Oklahoma State? And she's on the questioning team and they
do they do like training, and she's like, I'm so swored.
I'm so tired because they've been like lifting weights and
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doing running.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
She's like, I just ride horses stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I do.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Think it's time talking about the cowboys.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Let's talk about the cowboys. Why, Well, because they're the cowboys.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Cowboy Well I heard this.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
This is Jerry Jones talking about Dak Prescott's contract on
his radio hit This Morning. Take a listen.
Speaker 14 (15:02):
Okay, any time that we've ever made players that has
played the player, key players such as Troy Egman, the
most high speeded player in the game. We won Super Bowl.
Speaker 15 (15:17):
Do you ever worry that someone is just going to say,
I want out here's my trade demand, I want out
of here?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Do you or do you never worry about that?
Speaker 15 (15:27):
And why do you think we really haven't had it
happen with a superstar around here when the negotiations may
not go their way initially?
Speaker 14 (15:34):
Well, I've never seen anybody get their feelings hurt enough
that the money couldn't cure.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That's so good, that's so good. They're all mad.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you slide that number over this a little bit
more than they thought they were going to get? So look,
I just we haven't talked Dak Prescott contract. I don't
like it. I just don't. It's the same note. I mean,
at least Jerry's consistent, right, It's like I would have
bounced Mike McCarthy and hired Bill Belichick in a second. Why, Like,
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you want to win a Super Bowl? Who gives you
a better chance? And yeah, I like, I don't know
who's out there instead of Dak Prescott, But I do
know that. I mean, you're still stuck with Dak Prescott
and that contract is sizable, and maybe like, well, we
got the experience, we got the leadership. Great, you've had
all those things and not and he's played poorly in
your last two playoff losses. Like what more do we
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need to see? But Jerry is consistent. His guys are
his guys, and he gives them a longer lease than
anybody else. Yes, Jase do so.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
The first SoundBite we played, he said that every time
he's given a player the most money for their position,
they've won a super Bowl. And then he mentions Troy
Yikman like, I don't know about you guys, but my
old man, he once said to me, and this was
just about five years ago. He was like he was
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struggling with the smartphone. He's like, I just want a phone.
That's a phone. I don't want to have to do
all this other stuff. And I'm like, Dad, that's a
bad take, man. The only thing that take is telling
us is that you're very old. I'll say the same thing,
Jerry Jones. You can't go around saying every time I
make someone the highest paid player, we win a super Bowl.
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Cause it was nineteen ninety five, a lot of people
were not alive back then.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
True, I love.
Speaker 14 (17:31):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
One of the things I miss with with my dad
so much is the is like when you explain something
to your dad, it's a really weird feeling. My dad
used to always say, like he loved Colin Love Colin
couldn't stand Sports Nation. I don't like that Sports Nation show.
I know you like the Beatle Girl. She seems very nice,
(17:52):
but I just don't like that show. I was like, Dad,
it's a clips show. It's not designed for you. He's like, well,
I'm a sports fan. It's like this, I'm for younger people. Well, no,
wonder like you just you know, so I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I love.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I love explaining things to my father that that that
could have been a great TV show back in the day.
Can you tell me that rule again?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
With the with the out of bounds thing.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
So if there is a foul on a play that
or and it is the ball goes out of bounds,
so they do an out of bounds review on it,
you can call a foul if it occurred on that play.
They're citing the Kyrie irving Jaden McDaniel's call during the
Mavericks Timberwolf series as being the the reason why this
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rule is being implemented.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah. I mean that's the problem when they go back
to those things is sometimes you find something else and
you're not really allowed to you're really not allowed to
to to go back and change it. But it is
weird that you can do a foul but there's other
things you can do. But I completely agree with that
because that's a big thing as you go back to like, well,
went off him, like yeah, but foul. That's why I
went off him.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Sure sense, yes, yes, absolutely, And there's the.
Speaker 11 (19:09):
You're you're you're one hundred percent right, But I just wonder,
how do you I guess this would happen with the
call in the court because there's usually a happy medium,
right like if someone's ball, you know hand, you have
the ball in your hands and someone knocks it out,
but it stays your possession. Okay, no harm, no foul,
it's your ball. They're not going to call a foul.
But I wonder if that happy medium is taken away.
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I do like the fact of this of this play
because on this play, Jade McDaniel's got the ball, Kyrie
fouled them went out of bounds. It was off of
the Timberwolves and the Mavericks got the ball, so it
was a win win for the Mavericks. But I just
wonder if that will have any effect on this kind
of those happy mediums no harm, no foul call.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I can tell you
that there's there are certain there's certain calls that are made,
like in basketball, a lot of times instead of calling
a f they just give you the ball. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
And again I don't know how they worked that out,
but maybe they do.
Speaker 11 (20:08):
And it'll be interesting like if the if the official
had gotten the call correctly here, he could have just said,
you know what, it's uh, Minnesota ball, you know, Minnesota
ball right here, and then they would review it and
then you could say, all right, Minnesota ball, no harm,
no foul, or they could assess that foul to to
Kyrie Irving. But I think here what they gave possession
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to Dallas in that scenario and then could not call
the foul on Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Agreed and that's Dan Byer with with an update. This
is so funny. Now, do you guys hear what Jordan
Mason said after the game when he was asked when
he knew that he was going to be starting running back.
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Take a listen. This is Jordan Mason's response, why did you.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Find out that you're going to be starting?
Speaker 16 (21:02):
Well, I'm not found out. Maybe Friday, Friday night, you know,
something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay, So all of a sudden people are like what,
here's Kyle shanean after the game.
Speaker 11 (21:13):
Jordan's said after the game he was told on Friday
night and he was going to start.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
When did Christian start feeling a cry? I never told
Jordan he was going to start.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
Told him he had to be ready a bunch. But
I might have been Bobby or somebody trying to pump
him up, but I knew he was gonna have to
play a lot and told him that he was gonna
have to. It wasn't going to be like usual. He's
going to be a number two back that was splitting
a lot of the time. But now he didn't know
he for sure was doing that till the day.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And then this was I thought this was kind of sad.
This is Jordan Mason at the press conference afterwards.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
When did you find out that you'd be in the
starting lineup?
Speaker 16 (21:48):
That question right there is while I'm at uh, that's
why I'm like really talking to media because you say
one thing wrong and then you know, I don't know,
just give that question.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, so obviously he said something that he was told
he shouldn't have said, you know. And this is it's
really interesting on how coaches talk and what we are
supposed to mean and say. And look, I'll be honest
with you. I try and be I've told my parents
and guys I recruit, try and be like, this is
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a college basketball coaching is like slightly below that of
used car salesman in terms of people believing what you
say to be true? Like what do you do? Like
I'm in marketing? What do you do? Like I'm in sales?
What do you do like I'm a college basketball coach?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (22:41):
Really?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, it's like what anyway? But there are things
in which we can't say, Like there are things I'll
give example, we I am big on having the ability
to have mental health care for play. Like I got
guys from I got one from Senegal, one from Australia,
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one from Israel. Right there, far from home. I got
one from Oklahoma, one from Oakland, one from Orange County.
Right it's gonna get one from Province Roland. It's gonna
get cold, it's gonna get hard, so maybe you need
somebody to talk to. I cannot set up nor mandate
that a player goes to seek psychological help of any kind,
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even if he badly needs it. It has to be optional,
not mandatory. My own son said, like he didn't know
if he wanted to switch into weightlifting with his basketball coach,
only because not because he didn't want to do it,
but it makes it so he has a seven period
day where he gets he goes into school and once
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practice starts, they go and set practice seven to nine
and they have weightlifting nine to ten, but then they're
there till four o'clock. He's like, that's a long day
for me.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But that's the deal point is he's like, well said
it's optional. It's like, eh, they can only say it's optional,
it's really mandatory. Right, So there's way and Kyle may
not have said you're the starter, but I also think
that you know Mason isn't a dope and doesn't know
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what he meant Jordan Mason, And then we act like
Jordan Mason's a bad guy for telling the truth when
he didn't know he's supposed to lie.
Speaker 11 (24:27):
Yeah, that's the crazy part about it, Doug, is that
here Jordan Mason has the game of his life and
on national TV and helps the team, you know, get
this huge win, and now it's completely marred by the
forty nine ers trying to you know, want to and
game the New York Jets and in that fashion game
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the betting markets and really the fantasy world as well.
This is a huge deal in fantasy football. It has
so many different ramifications. And here's Jordan Mason, who never
and his wildest dreams probably thought he'd be able to
have one hundred and forty seven yards at a touchdown on
Monday Night Football and is now being chastised by the
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Niners because the Niners didn't want to divulge Christian McCaffrey's
true injury situation.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's absurd.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Don't you feel bad when he says, this is why
I don't like dealing with the media. I mean, we
always just assume that these people in the spotlight and
you know, public figures all just like to speak in public,
and they're good doing it and they're comfortable. Jordan Mason,
obviously is very uncomfortable in this setting. He had the
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game of his wife and he just was he was
comfortable at the wrong time on national TV, and he's
been vilified for it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, I don't I don't even think the question and
I think it was Lisa Salters who asked him. I
don't even think the question was designed.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It wasn't.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
It was just it was like it was one of
those I'm sure she thought, like somebody called him on
the way to the game.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Exactly like today, when did you find out?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Like at dinner whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He's like Friday, She's like what, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I don't think there was anything wrong with the question.
Speaker 13 (26:11):
It's just that everyone else had the reaction, and then
that reaction thus has to have the follow up question.
The whole point we have these injury reports and like
the whole stickling point about when they have to be
out is just this it's gambling and everything else. It
hearkens back to a time when there were guys trying
to before we had the injury reports out, and it
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was a whole bunch of messive guys calling around and
meddling to trying to find out who was in these games.
And this was supposed to be an option for transparency.
And there's a little bit maybe of the forty nine
ers gaming in a bit. I don't know if that's
right or wrong, but it's uh. I think I see
where the controversy comes from.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
At least.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't think it's a controversy. I think it's I mean,
it's like, like Dan pointed out, it's basically the Niners
trying to you know, it's gamesmanship. We're not going to
tell you so you can change how what your look is, whatever,
change your assumption of our you know. And and I
actually don't mind the Niners not caring about either the
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betting market or the fantasy football market. But it should
be pointed out that that's one of the reasons that
so many changes have been made to the injury report, right,
is so that you can't do this because like and
we can act like it's all about the all about
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the game, the sacty sports, and it is. But like, look,
and this is the hard part is that gambling and
fantasy football, that's tradition.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Truthfully, that's what pays the bills.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like we always say fans pay the bills, but the
reality is, like football is the reason football is so
popular is, yeah, it's awesome, it's easy to watch, it's
great on TV. But let's cut down to it best
tax easiest to bet on, easiest to plan for, best
for fantasy football, fantasy sports. Even though baseball kind of
invented the fantasy world, it's just too many games to
keep up with and to completely what's the word marginalize
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The importance of presenting legitimate injury reports marginalizes the fantasy
and the betting world, which they're paying billions of dollars
to get that information. So I feel bad for the
kid because, like you said, like we all said, like, bro,
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that's his first big time interview. He was deer in
the headlights. He was incredibly gracious and thoughtful, like everything
about it was great. There was no bad. And then
all of a sudden, she's like, when'd you find out?
And everybody was like, like, was it? The morning was
on the way? Was he warming up?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's like Friday, like what excuse me?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And then he goes up there and it's like he
it was like he had done something wrong when he
had done nothing wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Correct. Yep. Yeah, that's that's why I think we all
feel bad for him.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I feel bad for I feel terrible for him.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You painted it perfectly, like here's the game of his life,
National TV Week one against the Jets. Huge numbers, you know,
Payton and Eli and Bill Belichick doing their thing on ESPN,
and on ABC it's you know, Troy Aikman and Joe
Buck and everybody's talking about how awesome this kid is.
And by the end of it, Scott Van Peltz like
they might have a second back there and I might
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split some time there in San Francisco, Like, man, we're
talking crazy about Jordan Mason, and we treat him like
he did something wrong because somebody asked him when he
found out he was starting or going to play more,
and he was like Friday, I don't feel bad for
the dude. I know he played great.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Jason.
Speaker 11 (29:45):
Did you have something to add I've got I got
two things to add to this because it allows me
to pob our latest episode if I want your flex
out now. We recorded it after the Monday night game
Mike Carmen and myself Fantasy podcast, and we dealt with
a lot of this stuff. But there are fantasy players
out there that had five points and they had Christian
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McCaffrey going on or needed five points and they had
Christian McCaffrey going on Monday Night and then lost their
matchup because they didn't have the handcuff of Jordan Mason.
It's actually something Mike and I get into, and handcuffing
was such a popular phrase ten years ago in fantasy football,
and you're probably not doing it as much as you
are now, But the forty nine ers are one of
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the few teams where you would actually want to handcuff
your guy because of their system. So that was a huge,
huge deal in the fantasy world on if you did
or if you didn't have Jordan Mason as your backup
to Christian McCaffrey, ruined a lot of weak ones for people,
or made great week ones if you were facing a
team that had Christian McCaffrey and you were up and
you didn't have to worry about Monday Night. But I
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think it also shows you, Doug is the conversation that
you mentioned is, Yeah, now everybody's saying, do they have
a two back system in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I think it's showing that the forty niners are doing
what we all think it is and we all know
what it is, and that is they are all in
for the season, so risking Christian McCaffrey in a Week
one game against the Jets is just not worth it.
And this is a team that tried to get Christian
McCaffrey a touchdown streak last year in a game against
the Jaguars where they you know, had him in late
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in the fourth quarter, trying for him to break an
NFL record. And I actually commend the forty nine ers
for doing what they did because that, to me, is
a direct opposite of what they did for Jacksonville ast year.
You could have got Christian McCaffrey hurt and just chasing
a stupid record at that time. But this show is
all right, we're gonna need Christian McCaffrey for the long
haul the second half of the season, and they played
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it safe for them last night, and I think that
shows a sign of growth with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Case do you want to get in here?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
He may have tapped out, I was christ wants in.
Speaker 13 (31:51):
Yeah, I will say from a gambling side at least,
like I believe Kyle Shanahan when he says that, I think,
you know, Mason just kind of.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I don't at all. I don't believe Chris.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
What I mean, Well, I just want to say you
were born at night, not last night.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
That's that's fair, Okay. I guess that my larger point
I didn't I didn't tell him.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I said, I said to be ready, and he's But
I think.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (32:14):
But either way, I think the larger point is that
because I also saw this earlier today that like the
Auburn quarterback Peyton Thorn was saying, he has people like
demanding him pay them venmo.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Because he ruined their parlays.
Speaker 13 (32:26):
There's so much heat and so many people who have
jumped into the sports betting world all of the sudden
that a comment like this just gets further amplified by
a lot of people who have jumped in with no
real experience with sports gambling, and now they see a
comment like that and they are I mean they they
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were the ones who probably put Carlaiser props on on
McCaffrey and they're they're they're they're mad too, they're ticked
off too, and this just amplifies and puts pressure on
Mason Moore where it shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, I think it's interesting you bring up the Auburn quarterback.
And I've said this on air and I've said it
on social media, and I mean it is that the
proliferation of gambling and now as it moves and now
paying college student athletes going to change the energy towards
those guys. If it hasn't already, you know, it just
just is just is.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
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our podcast will be going up. You missed any today's show,
or you want to hear an hour of Tyreek Hill Discussion,
check it out. Let's get to the press that you
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get out.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
There and pressed that.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
The press.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
That was a tease from what you're gonna hear with
the Dan Byer.
Speaker 11 (33:58):
Yeah, Doug, I rarely rarely ever do this, but I'm
going to do it today because I just can't get
over this piece of audio that I think is an
enormous SoundBite, because it is so it is so demeaning
to not one, but two quarterbacks. And again, this was
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yesterday Titans head coach Brian Callahan talking to reporters after
he saw the Bears defense score the two touchdowns for
Chicago and the Titans blow that lead against the Bears.
This was the Titans head coach talking about, I guess
his team's offensive performance and also takes a complete swat
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at Caleb Williams of the Bears.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
It was situational.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
I just we were playing so good on defense that
it's almost as if, I mean, if we just punted
it on first and ten every time, we might have
won the game of the way that you know, we
gave it away.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
So I fight it.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
We want honest even the coaches. That was honesty. Y.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It was the hey, what if we ran the water
boy offense right punt on second down play to our defense.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
It's such a shot at will Levis and the Titans
offense to be like, yeah, we probably should have punted,
And I know he's trying to, you know, complement his
defense and saying, hey, we could have just had our
defense out there and they would have been just fine.
But it is will Levis's offense that turned the ball
over twice. And it's also saying, yeah, Cayleb Williams. He
didn't throw for one hundred yards against us, and you
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could have continued to do it.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I just I love it.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
I'm surprised that it hasn't gone as viral as it has,
and I just wanted to play it again today.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I think it's because of the Tyreek Hill stuff.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
Yeah, I think so too. I think that week won
a lot of stuff. And honestly, I think it's because
it's the Titans.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, Titans, nobody cares.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
Yeah, yes, So some more details on these citations given
to Tyreek Hill. He'd faced one hundred and seventy nine
dollars fine for that careless driving citation that he got
one hundred and twenty nine dollars on the seat belt
viola seatbelt violation. So the fines with total three hundred
and eight dollars now on the police report. Police estimated
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that Hill was going around sixty miles per hour in
an area that had heavy traffic of pedestrians and vehicles.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
But yeah, there there's construction, there's cones was right by
the stadium.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
There's video of it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
He was zipping by. He's clearly going a lot faster
than everybody else, but that that takes away from the
previously and I even said it. The idea that he
was going one hundred in a fifty he appeared to
be going sixty in a twenty five, I think is what.
Speaker 11 (36:30):
Yeah, And here's here's my point about it, though, if
there was no gun on him, they didn't have any
radar or anything like that, would he have just would
have just given him a seatbelt violation? Another one hundred
and seventy nine extra, doesn't care. But yeah, no, totally
to that point of there was no gun. So if
he would have just.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Just put down your window and be nice, hey man,
my bad, I'm just I'm trying to get to the stadium,
you know.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
But the cost, the reason why Dan gave that update
is because it's being made a big deal and the
and how it's being positioned. Is all of that for
one hundred and fifty bucks or three hundred and thirty bucks.
All of the police had to rough up a guy
for three hundred and thirty dollars in citations, and they
just forget about everything that happened in between. It's like,
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who cares for the reason he got pulled over? It's
what he did after he got pulled totally.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I look at it much like you do, you guys,
you do Dan, which is the and I think Jaysu
your your more lying lines of this, Like I look
at it as the like, dude, all you had to
do is put down your window, be cordial. Worst case scenario,
you pay that fine. Okay, best case scenario, you probably
don't pay anything.
Speaker 11 (37:38):
Yeah, you probably wouldn't even have got a ticket for
t I would even got the wouldn't have had the
you know.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
But but we choose to look at it from the
opposite side, which is so bizarre how we got to
this point.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
That's suppress.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
All right, check out the podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
There'll be some arguing on it, but we still like it.
I hope you do too. More sports talk tomorrow on
The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio
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