September 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Doug and the crew throw it back 30 years in the first edition of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday". FSR Betting Analyst Jared Smith joins Doug to break down the weekend of football wagering. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 4 (00:38):
In m hm. You know, I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Jay stew has lots of ideas in his mind, incredible stuff,
and sometimes it's hit, sometimes it's miss.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
But I feel like this one's a hit. Jay. If
you want to give the idea for Throwback Thursday, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Kind of goes back to something that Dan Byer and
I we had a we had I guess a late
lunch one day and Dan Byers like, you know what,
maybe we should do some kind of a throwback Thursday segment,
and they kind of laid it out, and I wanted
I want to introduce it for the football season because
I think every Thursday there's gonna be a way to
talk about the Thursday night game. And I also want
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to implement something that I find very amusing. This is
my sense of humor. You know, don't call it a
comeback as a famous LL cool J song, and I'm
gonna say, naq you at yeah. And I always find
it funny how when celebrities are coming back from something
and then they go online and they're like, don't call
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it a comeback. Catch me Tuesday nights at eight o'clock whatever. No, No,
that is a comeback. You're actually coming back from something
that why would we not call it a comeback. I
don't think they understood the actual nature of the song,
which was llll was telling us I didn't go anywhere.
I've been a stud for a long time. This is
not a comeback. But most celebrities don't kind of get
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that nuance, so they just kind of throw it out there,
and it should become a thing of a lexicon thing.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
If they're throwing out there that it actually hasn't come back.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Then we don't question this as well. Yeah, and like
so I want.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
To rap quite like I can. I put a muscle
back in and put his face in the sand length less.
I'm sorry, that's I'm bad, which is again predates I
with Sam's possible knowledge of ell equol jay.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Just so aware.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
When I'm alone in my room sometimes I go at
the wall and in the back of my mind I
hear my conscience call telling me I need a girl
who's as sweet as a dove for the first time
in my life. So I want to start this segment
every Thursday. I don't want it. And and by the way,
this is fungible. We could we can mold it and
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however we want. But I want to see we'll get
some listener react to the first time we do it.
It's called don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What do we think of the intro?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I dig this song, so I'm good with it.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Could we go back thirty years? I know Sam is
is only I think he's thirty eight or thirty nine,
But Sam's an old soul, thank you. Can we go
back thirty years to the fall of nineteen ninety four
and kind of put yourself in that mindset. The Bills
played the Dolphins. Now you have to think about this.
The Bills were coming off of what three straight Super
Bowls or four straight Super Bowls? Four straight? The Dolphins
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had Dan Marino, I think maybe in his final years,
kind of the last thing, but he still had a
lot in him. The Bills in Miami in the fall
of nineteen ninety four beat the Dolphins forty two to
thirty one. It featured two Hall of Fame coaches, Marv
Levy and Don Shua, two Hall of Fame quarterbacks Dan
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Marino and Jim Kelly, and just a number of Hall
of famers on the Bill sidewines. Both quarterbacks put on
a show.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Again.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
The Bills ended up winning forty two to thirty one.
But a lot of people don't remember that that ninety
four season, the Bills had come down off of their reign.
They would end up going I don't know what they were,
they like seven and something, seven and seven and nine maybe,
But just think about nineteen ninety four and that night
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and that and that time, Like, what do you guys
think about when you hear these names that I just mentioned.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I think really good fun football. I think it's one
of those things.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
That where we a lot of people not our age Jason,
even yours Dan, but I would say that Sam, if
you were to ask somebody like, hey, what was football
like when you had Jim Kelly and Dan Marino and whatever,
you would think a lot more conservative, a lot more running.
But yet those two teams, Dann Reno, they never ran
the football. And then the K gun offense, though it
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had Thurman Thomas, it was as much Thurman out of
the backfield as anything. And was it kind of like
spread offense for for spread offensive school, high powered, high scoring.
I think it'd be very different than how people think.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'll ever forget. Nineteen ninety four in the NFL was
the seventy fifth anniversary, and so that is when you
saw a wide variety of different uniforms pop up at
the time, most notably the San Francisco forty nine ers
loved their throwbacks and felt that they were so superstitious
about it that they continued to wear them and wore
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them in the Super Bowl that they ended up beating
your guys, Chargers or Chargers. In January of nineteen ninety five,
but that ninety four season, there was a diamond patch
put on NFL uniforms that year signifying the seventy fifth anniversary,
and teams were encouraged to wear their throwback uniforms at
that time. So don't call it a throwback. Yeah, don't
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call it a throwback, but they were in nineteen ninety four.
I remember that I bought a this was and this
it was not as much of a craze at the time.
I shouldn't say I bought it. My mom bought it
for me. You get new school clothes, right for me?
My senior year in high school. I'm going to graduate
in nineteen ninety five. I wanted one thing authentic NFL
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Marshall Falk jersey. Ooh, Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, Marshall fulk Okay.
So the jersey comes in with the diamond patch on it,
but they make the jerseys it was so authentic then,
Doug that it was authentic to the team. So it
was like tight around the shoulder pads. So like when
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I ordered my size, which was my normal size, the
jersey was so small that I had to give it
to like my twelve year old cousin because I couldn't
wear it because of the way that it fit, and
because it was custom, because they didn't make Marshall falk
jerseys then, like you had to ask like A or
f Aulk and I want the number twenty eight. You
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couldn't return it, even though it was a player that
was thirty years ago. Now you go on the NFL
shop and the new players signs and his jersey is
up practically the next day. But it was not that
easy back then. It had the because why would a
running back want to loose jersey? Right? He wants it
tight against the pads. That's what I remember about nineteen
ninety four in the NFL. One of the things that
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I remember from nineteen ninety four in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
By the way, the Dolphins went on to win the
NFC or AFC East that year. Bernie Parmley led their
team in rushing. A guy named Irving Spikes was second
on that team. That was a team with oj McDuffie.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Oj McDuffie Penn State, right.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, and his son is a good player in the
league right now, correct or is that a different McDuffie.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Sarah Trent? Is it Trent? Is that I want to
say they're related. I could be right. I don't know.
I do not know that.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I found this interesting. This is where Sam's really going
to get engaged. The movie that took over nineteen ninety
four pulp fiction.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So a great movie, a great movie. Here's here's one
part about nineteen eighty four. That was when I fell
in love with the La Charger of the Santego Chargers.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Remember that tea.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes, Natron means business. Stand the man Humphreys. They they
beat the Dolphins and the Steelers and then took on
the Niners led by Steve Young in the Super Bowl
and just got completely housed. But Stan the man Humphreys
and the running back was Natron means business, right. That
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was That was back when Chris Chris Berman was big too.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Natron means It was also a time in the NFL
where it was the forty nine Ers and Cowboys and
everybody else that was the Packers were trying to build up.
The Bears were no longer a thing. The Giants it
kind of moved on from their time. It had been
years since they had been in those Super Bowls. It
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was a and it was an arms race. This was Dion,
Remember goes to the forty nine Ers, helps them win
the Super Bowl, then the next year ends up joining
the Cowboys and doing his thing. But it was you
weren't close. It was Cavaliers Warriors esque. I would say
of that NFL season on who was going to end
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up just playing? You just felt like the Cowboys and
forty nine Ers were going to meet the NFC Championship game,
and whoever won that game was going to win the
Super Bowl because whoever played from the AFC was not
going to be able to compete.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
You bring up Dion, I want to say he was
doing both sports that year. He played for the Braves
and the Falcons at some point in the nineties, and
I want to say when he was shipped to San Francisco,
he also was shipped to the Giants. He was playing
in San Francisco on the baseball team and the football team.
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Fact check me on, but I think I got that right.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
By the way, previous fact check no relation between Trent
McDuffie and OJ McDuffie.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Only do a fact check if it confirms what I said.
We're only going to check one person here. Isn't that
the controversy, right? But if one person saying all the
wrong things. Don't we have to fact check. I don't
know how it all works. I will say this, I
do remember from nineteen ninety four. Okay, so we all
remember when the snow cave the Metro domin right. Do
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you remember when the tiles fell from the Kingdome?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So that was in nineteen ninety four. And the reason
I bring it up is because the Seahawks couldn't play
at the Kingdome.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
So they played at the Husky Stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes, yes, and they really weren't that good, but they
started out two and zero that year, and then you're like, wow,
they because they for as bad as they were, playing
in the Kingdome was such an advantage. I think they
they played the Steelers, I think in one of the
two games it was, and they ended up losing one
of the two. They didn't have a great year that year,
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but they started out to and oh and then I
remember they had to go. They went and played at
Husky Stadium, which looked just so weird because you were
so used to seeing them in the Kingdome. But yeah,
that was in nineteen ninety four. And then after a
little while, you're like, all right, we need a new
stadium here. Let's get this.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
It could be the problem with going to a game
where concrete might fall on your face.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
People were so soft these days. They were soft nineteen
ninety four as well. What's a little concrete, right?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You know what started in the fall of nineteen they
were by the way, they were fiberglass, so oh they
were Oh okay, what started in nineteen ninety four? Doug
the sitcom Friends follow nineteen ninety four, must see.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
TV, Must see TV in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, Seinfeld was in there somewhere. Yeah, Seinfeld was, I
think tops then because Cheers it left in ninety three.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Am started in ninety four. Yet had that's what started? Kramer?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What are you talking about? I'm sorry, Fraser, I check that, Yeah, yeah,
Maye Fraser may have been around a little bit. Seinfeld
was the king though. It was eighth central, I know
that for sure. And then Friends was at seven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Guys, I was only eight years central times. Central time
is so weird for you to go by, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Anyway, guys, I was only eight years old.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
But one of the best biggest hits for Soundgarden came
out in nineteen ninety four, black hole.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Sun Sun.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Had a resurgence a year or two ago. This year
with the eclipse, it came back into the rock charts.
Because of the eclipse, people are listening to it.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Senior ye in high school? Right there, boys, there you go?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Good time?
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Did that?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Was I any Commosi? Nineteen ninety four? It comes the
hot step?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Did Vitology come out in early ninety four? Was that?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'm I'm we're still rocking?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Pearl jam ten? I know Pearl jam ten was probably
ninety sure.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But you had verses one, I think, but I thought,
you know, I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Vitology was was definitely ninety four ninety Yeah, it was yep.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Kirk at Fenway this weekend, by the way, man who
did Kirk Cobain died in ninety four?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, the PlayStation was launched. I had the original for
just in time for Christmas nineteen ninety four. One A
lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The PS one. Yeah, great, great game system, really good
game system.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I remember many.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
How many game systems have you actually owned? JASO.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I'm not a gamer and my son is not a
big gamer, so that I'm bad got to ask, But
I will say this, I currently have a PlayStation four,
and I do. I watched my entire TV on that.
All the apps that I watch, all the streaming apps
are on a PlayStation four that I own, but maybe
maybe I've owned three total in my life.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I remember renting a PlayStation because I didn't have one.
You know, you could rent it from the video stores. Yeah,
bluck plush, Yes, getting a college football video game and
playing it and not realizing it was Were memory cards
used in PS once, No, you know, I think they did, yeah,
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Xbox No.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
No, I never had a PS one, You're right, so
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
PlayStation one also was the first to use a disc,
a spinning disk. Yes, yes, there's all these cartridges before,
and I had and I just thought that my game
would automatically be saved. And I kept on trying to
play these college football seasons with Ohio State, and every
single time it would give me the season opening game
and the games by then, you know, it took like
forty five minutes, so it wasn't like a quick game
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that I was flying through, and so I'd shut it
off and I didn't realize that I needed a memory
card because it used to be just saved on the
cartridge if you had Sega Genesis.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But I'm like, gosh, why is it this saving my game?
Do I just have to leave this thing on the
whole time? But yeah, those are those were that was
the technology that was fooling me.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Nineteen ninety four was NHL ninety four? Did we mention
this or is this my brain playing?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You didn't mention it? But you did not, No, we
did not.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's like one of the greatest video games of all
time ninety four.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That was game referenced in Swingers.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean the big thing was the use of
the one timer was I mean that was it was
pretty money.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You scored almost that will that way.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I had a great game. I had such a tough
time figure out how to score goals in those games.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You had to hold down the button and then release
it right as you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Got the pig game. Yeah, I know, the one timers
were the easier way. But how like you could I
was big.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I would gretzky, I would go around the back of
the net.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I couldn't do that. Yeah, I would just have to
take a slap shot and then it would be saved.
I was more of a rowneck guy. Ronick Jimmy Ronick
Mike McDonough.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Was Rome still on at night at that point in
time or did he go national middle of the day.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think it was right in the right when he
started to go during the daytime and then they gave
him that talk to show. Jim Everett was right around
those times.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I had surgery on my thumb in nineteen ninety four,
dislocated a video games Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasn't fun.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
What's the segment called, don't call it a throwback?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yes, yes, don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You got to keep her there, Jason.
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Speaker 6 (17:21):
Jared.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Let's get ready for tonight's game, shall we? Buffalo Miami
played each other twice a year every year since the
nineteen sixty six AFL season. The Dolphins have won all
twenty games over the Bills in the nineteen seventies, but
after that it changed to Buffalo had four straight victories
against Miami. The Bills are eleven to one the last
twelve head to head matchups, including escaping thirty four to
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thirty one at home in the Wildcard round of the
AFC Playoffs in January of twenty twenty three. Now, the
last loss was two years ago in September in Miami,
but it was during a day game where the heat
was intense.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Let's start with tonight.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
How much do you think the lack of sunshine on
that visiting sideline changes this game for Buffalo?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yeah? I think it matters. I think the injuries matter,
especially for Miami dealing with most dirt out as Shane
also banged up. So the running back room, which is
important for the Dolphins. Last week they had over or
they had two running backs on the field on over
fifty percent of their snaps. So we'll see what the
formations are tonight. We know you know McDaniel loves to
mix things up for Buffalo Toron Johnson, they're all pro
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corners out. That's good news for Tyreek Hill, that's good
news for Jalen Watto, good news for this Miami passing game.
I think gamescript matters could see a little weather obviously South
Florida and you know in September could see a spotty
shower go through. I did see the total tick down
a little bit. I think if it is moving just
based off of weather. I grew up down there in
South Florida, could be five minutes to rain and in
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nothing the whole night, So keep an eye on that.
Of course, live betting the total is always intriguing when
you see how these teams start. I think the key
is how does Buffalo handle third downs? Doug We know
they like to heat up. Anyone on third downs, especially
a quarterback is talented. Is to with the offensive line
issues that Miami has. The problem is too specifically against
the blitz has been very good last year, eleven touchdowns
and no picks, a very quick time to throw rate.
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They're very good at getting the ball out of their
hands quickly if they can detect that blitz. So how
Buffalo disguises those blitzes, and it's gonna be key on
third downs. I think how Miami wins on that down.
If they can protect and allow to it to push
the ball down the field, they should have an edge.
With Buffalo secondary a little bit nicked up.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, how good is Buffalo? Do you think at the
end of the day.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
I think Josh Allen's really good. I think that's the end.
That really is the end, all be all. He had
one of the highest success rates of any quarterback last week.
But Buffalo is flawed and their defense is banged up.
Milano's hurt now their best corners out, and I think
over time, what we've seen with the Bills is the
attrition doesn't favor them. They're a very slow, methodical offense.
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They don't run with a ton of pace. That means
they need to take advantage of their drives and Josh
Allen has to be the savior. Now he has been
in one game against Arizona's defense. How does he handle
a short turnaround on the road against a much feistier
defense with the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
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joining us.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Of course, he's our picks are betting.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Analyst's let's let's get to a couple of college games,
shall we? Sneaky good Big twelve game Arizona? I think
what seven point dog at k State? Now they're both
in the Big twelve, but this is not a Big
twelve game.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
What do you think of the line?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
I think Kansas State's gonna run the ball. I think
that's been their mo from you know, regardless of whatever
conference they play in, or whatever conference opponent they play in,
or if it's a non conference game, the defense for
Arizona struggles. I think Avery Johnson's mobility is going to
be key. They need to play a little bit faster.
Kansas State tends to be a little bit slow, but
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I think in this particular game at home, with an
opponent coming into Manhattan that is not used to playing
in Manhattan, Kansas, I do think speeding up the tempo
and getting those two running backs Giddins and Edwards the
ball quickly in space is key. They love to be
exotic with their run games. They'll put both guys on
the field, they'll run wheel routs and eye candy out
of the backfield. And I think Arizona which again outside
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the top eighty in rush defense so far this year,
might struggle to stop it. Arizona's offense is the exact opposite.
It's very explosive. Fafeta the quarterback's been great. They've got
this kid McMillan on the outside that is an He
might be the best player in the country, an incredible receiver.
And Kansas State's defense last week, what we saw against
Tulane is struggled in communication, struggled with some of these lapses.
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They gave up ten completions of ten or more yards.
Three of them went for twenty plus. So Arizona, which
can stretch the field, if they can hit some of
these explosives and turn Kansas State into a negative game
script where they can't use their running game, I think
that's the path for Arizona to cover this. But if
Case States gets that ground game going and they're turning
it out and Avery Johnson's and around and Giddins and
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Edwards are doing their thing, I think Arizona's defense might
just get overwhelmed in this game.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Bama travels to take on Wisconsin. They're a road favorite
against the Badgers.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Yeah, we've seen this one. Get bet up pretty heavily
right a Bama minus nine, minus ten over the summer
for Alabama. Now we're seeing it up to sixteen seventeen.
So I think at what point do we see the
Wisconsin money step in. They have been good in this spot.
Three and zero against the number is a double digit
home dog. Now they're all against Ohio State, so it's
kind of a style make fights. Alabama comes in with
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a much different kind of offense. They want to attack
the immediate part of the intermediate part of the field.
That's something that Jalen Milroe has I think improved in.
They're better at stretching it deep. I think the Wisconsin
defense needs to show me a little something in this game.
They're giving up a lot of push to you know,
backs like Jalen Buckley out of Western Michigan and Charles
Pierre out of South Dakota. Alabama's going to come in
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with a different level of athlete and I think that's
what concerns me in this game for Wisconsin's offense. Unless
Tyler Van Dyke is a hero, I just don't see
a path for Wisconsin in this game. He leaves a
lot to be desired. Does not look healthy the outside
the top one hundred and QBR. I think the difference
Thug is is we're not seeing this same style of
Wisconsin offense that's been successful in years past. Luke Fickle's
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coming in and kind of changing some things. It's not
the same kind of offensive line, it's not the same
kind of run game. That is the recipe for beating Alabama.
You just do what Michigan did to him last year,
and you just bludgeon them. I don't know if Wisconsin
is that kind of Wisconsin this year. This is not
a Monty Ball kind of team, a Ron Dayn kind
of team. They're a little more spread it out now
with Van Dyke and Fickle running the show. So I'm
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a little concerned that they're kind of a poor man's
Bama in this spot in Alabama's going to come in
and just wipe the flour of them. The atmosphere could
matter Madison early game. I think that could be some variants,
But if all in a vacuum, I think Alabama just
kind of plays a better brand of football right now
and they should cover this.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You never know, though, in camp brand that could be
really really is just college Gambay is going to LSU
South Carolina. Well, last we tell LSU, of course they
lost a close one to start the season. What are
your thoughts on trying to beat the game Cocks.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I'm disappointed with LSU's offense so far, sixty one yards
rushing against Nicols State Emery. There are stars out now
with an ACL injury, you could tell they're really missing
Jade Daniel's mobility. There's no respect for nus Meyer in
the RPO game. They have one of the best offensive
lines in the country, which is why you would think
they'd be able to get pushed. But now they're basically
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down to their second and third string running backs and
they just need more at that side of the ball.
The one positive I can say about LSU is they're
not turning the ball over and nuss Meyer, who can
be a bit of a gunslinger, zero turnover worthy throws
in two games, so I think improved decision making. Certainly,
South Carolina's defense, the pass rush very dynamic. Dylan Stewart,
(24:54):
this five star freshman, is an absolute rock star. The
front has ten sacks and two games overall, so I'm
curious if they can create some holes and what's a
very good LSU front. The two data points for South
Carolina against Old Dominion in Kentucky without Liam Cohen, very
different Kentucky offense. Without Liam Cohen. You're seeing what he's
doing in the NFL with the Tampa Bay Bucks. They're
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not overly impressive. This will be the best offense that
South Carolina has phased thus far. And for LSU's defense,
if they can stop the run, they're down one of
the best d lineman Guilliries out for the year. If
they can stop the run and make South Carolina one dimensional,
I do think they can and should win this game.
But you're on the road game days in town and
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nuss Meyer's kind of been not as effective in the
running game, hasn't been able to establish that, So I'm
a little bit concerned with laying a number with LSU
in this game.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Fair enough, Okay, you got a couple of rivalry games,
actually had three rivalry games that you'd normally have late
in the year, but with new conferences, whatever, you got
Apple Cup. You got the Civil War, which is Oregon
Oregon State, and you had the Backyard Brawl which is
Pittsburgh and we and West Virginia, the of the two
(26:06):
of the in the Northwest, which is the most competitive.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I think Washington has a chance to really kind of
put their foot down. Washington State is a bit of
a paper tiger, so they beat Texas Deck last week
as a dog, and that's why you've seen this number move.
So this number was Washington minus eight last week and
now it's minus four and a half. And I don't
know if that went over Texas dech matters because two
weeks ago Texas Deck gave up fifty one to Abolion
(26:31):
Christian needed overtime. So I think Washington who has looked
better than I expected. I mean, they got raided obviously
after Penix Leaves and all the receivers go coach Leaves
oc Leaves, but they kind of stabilized things.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
They have found a little bit of consistency. They've got
Will Rogers, the Mississippi State transfer, playing quarterback. Their running
game is really good. Jonah Coleman's a workhorse, very elusive,
and their offensive line is is better than I expected.
The skill room despite losing three guys to the the NFL,
better than expected Boston Denzel Boston on the outside of
two touchdowns last week. The Washington State offense is very volatile.
(27:08):
They've got this dual threat Materier quarterback ran for two
hundred yards last week. I like the ocr buckle, but
I think Washington controls the trenches in this game. Neutral game.
It's in Lumenfield in Seattle to Seahawks Stadium, and I
think four and a half too big of an adjustment,
just based off of that win for Wazoo over Texas
deck last week. Oregon I was closed, Doug. I was
close to betting Oregon State this week, but it feels
(27:29):
like everyone is betting Oregon State last week after what
we saw from Oregon almost losing the Boise, not playing
well against Idaho. The offensive line is in shambles. I
do think at some point Dan Lanning figures it out.
He's a really good coach and they've got talent. They
just need to protect a little bit better. And they've
got a quarterback who can chuck it a little bit. Gabriel.
You know he has experience. Oregon State lost a ton.
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I would not be shocked if Oregon ran up that score.
So I think of the two Northwest games, I like
Washington the best against Washington State.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
All right, backyard bro Pitt West Virginia m so I.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
West Virginia's been hot in this series, but last year's
game was Lasher's game might have been the ugliest collegeable
game of the year. Pitt is a completely different team
this year. They brought in it's like anti Nardoozi. They
brought in this ock bell from Western Carolina. They're averaging
over five hundred yards per game. They're third in places
per minute, like they went from the stone age offense
(28:23):
to now like modern, hyper ludicrous speed. They're running back
that they brought in from Western Carolina, Desmond Reid. He's
number one in the country in all purpose yards. He
can fly. So this is a very it's a high
variance game. West Virginia hasn't looked good. I mean, honestly,
one hundred and thirty first in defensive coverage. They were
allowing explosive plays last week to Albany. They let six
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different Albany receivers have a reception of twenty or more yards.
We know what they did against Penn State and the
opener I think give him a pass for that game.
The number is begging you to take West Virginia. But
something about Pitt's offense high variants. I think I would.
I would rather be on Pitt's side here because I
like what I've seen from this offense early. But it's volatile.
It could completely bust out. You saw what happened against
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Cincinnati last week. It was a really tight game and
all of a sudden or excuse me, they were down
big and then all of a sudden, Pit just exploded
and came back and won that game. Wouldn't be shocked
if they didn't have as much gas in the tank
this week against West Virginia.
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Speaker 3 (29:39):
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ERAUS children of the nineties, Lewis, let's do this. It's
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it a throwback Thursday regulators always mounted up right. Let's
(30:00):
get you to the press, the press.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What he got there, danby, I do want to give
Iowa Sam. Did you talk about a lot about yesterday
your Iowa meetup that you had. Were you able to
do that on the show yesterday? No, So when Sam
was in Iowa City, you got to meet up with
a bunch of fellow Hawkeys or hawkeys that were in Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
It was a symposium, the ninth Anneal Symposium for so
I was gone from the show Friday, Monday and Tuesday,
ninth Annal Symposium for the Sport and Recreate Recreation Management Department.
I was a panelist and got to network for some
students and some other people there, and uh, Dan noticed
I posted on Facebook, and Dan noticed something that he
thought was funny, and yeah, go ahead, d No.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think I actually, first of all awesome that you
got to go to be a part of it. It
is a wonderful event and even more awesomer that you
were a panelist and were able to share your experiences.
Talk a lot about Fox Sports Radio. We bust chops
a lot here, but I think that should be recognized
as a kudos and the thumbs up to you. What
I did find unique and Doug in the most Iowa
(31:10):
Sam Way ever. Sam posted I would say, I don't
know twelve pictures from his experience.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
It was it was the EUI SRM Sports Recreation Management's
own post share.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It was, That's what it was. So Sam shared it Doug,
but he only liked the pictures that he was in,
or the pictures where it appeared there were really important
people in the way. He skipped over some random shots
of maybe other students talking or other panelists talking that
weren't as important, but he made sure to like the
ones that he was in. But okay, and like the
(31:43):
ones where like it looked like people that were like,
you know, the who's who of that symposia.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Let me in my defense, isn't it kind of weird
when you like every single photo in like an album
on social media, Like could you could like the whole album?
I did do that, Yes, But then you go back
in life edual pictures that you were in, yes, right,
and video of me too.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And Doug. These weren't like here's Sam with an award.
It was just him was he was just you know,
I was just like a random person in the shot.
But yeah, I'm looking at there's a meeting with someone
from the Kansasty Chiefs. I did not like that photo.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
There's a couple of a couple of grad students with
their scholarship padfolio. As they said, I did not like
that one. But you know what, I did like a
couple that I was not in, and so, uh it
was a wonderful said to like all of the ones
that you were in. Yes, I want people. I wanted
people to you know, see that there I was in
my event.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
On an island here, Doug, I just find it just
it's just it's a little quirk of Iowa Sam that
I just.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I think it's amazing. I didn't have noticed any of that.
Now I'm gonna check that out all the time. Good good,
good work.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
I don't I don't know if I necessarily follow that
process or protocol every time, but uh no, yeah, you know,
I got to h it was a wonderful event.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I glad I went onto uh on some more serious issues.
As for the AJ Griffin story, Doug Shams reported for
The Athletic there was no story attached to it, so
it's just the point of that AJ Griffin is seriously
considering stepping away from basketball at this time, for the
Houston Rockets. How about this situation involving two thousand and
five Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush. His home was broken
(33:19):
into early Tuesday in Los Angeles, but he stold the
La Times that nothing was stolen from his place, everyone
was safe, but three men dressed in all black entered
his residents at about twelve thirty early Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
In Encino, man, I mean, and Sino has gotten so
much nicer in terms of the quality of home. It's
very close to where Spoxsports Trade is located for people
to understand, but they've had a lot of these break
ins and guys like that are targets at is scary
scary stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, absolutely, it's just such such a violation as well.
When I was younger, we had somebody walk into our
house in the middle of the night, and then you're
on edge for yeah, forever.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I lived in Encino for a number like six years,
and yeah, I feel lately in La and Sino for
some reason has been like a target. There have been
like break ins literally every other night for like the
last month. And you know, there's other beautiful homes all
over the valley, but for some reason, Encino has been
sort of focused on by Burglars.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
The big news in college sports today the PAC twelve
announcing the additions of Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State,
and San Diego State that will join the league in
twenty twenty six. It'll be a six school league at
this time, as the conference will still need to add
two more schools to reach the eighteen minimum required to
maintain its FBS status.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I get why wa Zoo in Oregon State want to
stay in it because then they can collect all that
money from all the teams that left. I understand why
standing in the state, Colorado State want to get to
the PAC twelve. But it's not the PAC twelve. So
unless they know something we don't, I mean, USC and
UCLA are not leaving the Big ten. If maybe it's
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the plan is they think the eight CC is gonna
fall apart and they'll get Callen Stanford back. But that's
still not a power five league. It's just not and
it won't demand the type of money from television they
wanted to demand.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
The Jacksonville Jaguars are hosting the Cleveland Browns on Sunday,
and their home opener, and it will be the opener
at Trevor Bank Stadium on Sunday, Renamed as part of
a collaboration with the stadium's naming rights sponsor EverBank and
quarterback Trevor Lawrence. They are calling it Trevor Bank Stadium
(35:33):
in a one game only affair. It will continue to
be EverBank, but this Sunday it will be Trevor Bank
when they face the Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Now, they're facing the Browns, so they should be good.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The Browns defense, we'll see. And the Jaguars had the
Dolphins dead to rights. Travis Etn is about to prance
it to the end zone, I know, and he fumbles.
Speaking of the Dolphins, they got the Bills tonight Devon
h hen game time decision with an ankle injury. H
N is expected to go Doug. I like the Dolphins tonight.
(36:04):
Are the Bills on a short week still having problems
with defense? I expressed that last week. I like the
Dolphins to go to and Llo with a win tonight
against Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I like the Dolphins as well, even though I think
the Bills are better.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yes, we'll see if that heat that Mike Sandal talked
about will get to them, and that's the press.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Get out there and pressed.
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Speaker 4 (00:38):
In m hm. You know, I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Jay stew has lots of ideas in his mind, incredible stuff,
and sometimes it's hit, sometimes it's miss.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
But I feel like this one's a hit. Jay. If
you want to give the idea for Throwback Thursday, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Kind of goes back to something that Dan Byer and
I we had a we had I guess a late
lunch one day and Dan Byers like, you know what,
maybe we should do some kind of a throwback Thursday segment,
and they kind of laid it out, and I wanted
I want to introduce it for the football season because
I think every Thursday there's gonna be a way to
talk about the Thursday night game. And I also want
(01:22):
to implement something that I find very amusing. This is
my sense of humor. You know, don't call it a
comeback as a famous LL cool J song, and I'm
gonna say, naq you at yeah. And I always find
it funny how when celebrities are coming back from something
and then they go online and they're like, don't call
(01:44):
it a comeback. Catch me Tuesday nights at eight o'clock whatever. No, No,
that is a comeback. You're actually coming back from something
that why would we not call it a comeback. I
don't think they understood the actual nature of the song,
which was llll was telling us I didn't go anywhere.
I've been a stud for a long time. This is
not a comeback. But most celebrities don't kind of get
(02:06):
that nuance, so they just kind of throw it out there,
and it should become a thing of a lexicon thing.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
If they're throwing out there that it actually hasn't come back.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Then we don't question this as well. Yeah, and like
so I want.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
To rap quite like I can. I put a muscle
back in and put his face in the sand length less.
I'm sorry, that's I'm bad, which is again predates I
with Sam's possible knowledge of ell equol jay.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Just so aware.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
When I'm alone in my room sometimes I go at
the wall and in the back of my mind I
hear my conscience call telling me I need a girl
who's as sweet as a dove for the first time
in my life. So I want to start this segment
every Thursday. I don't want it. And and by the way,
this is fungible. We could we can mold it and
(02:48):
however we want. But I want to see we'll get
some listener react to the first time we do it.
It's called don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What do we think of the intro?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I dig this song, so I'm good with it.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Could we go back thirty years? I know Sam is
is only I think he's thirty eight or thirty nine,
But Sam's an old soul, thank you. Can we go
back thirty years to the fall of nineteen ninety four
and kind of put yourself in that mindset. The Bills
played the Dolphins. Now you have to think about this.
The Bills were coming off of what three straight Super
Bowls or four straight Super Bowls? Four straight? The Dolphins
(03:35):
had Dan Marino, I think maybe in his final years,
kind of the last thing, but he still had a
lot in him. The Bills in Miami in the fall
of nineteen ninety four beat the Dolphins forty two to
thirty one. It featured two Hall of Fame coaches, Marv
Levy and Don Shua, two Hall of Fame quarterbacks Dan
(03:58):
Marino and Jim Kelly, and just a number of Hall
of famers on the Bill sidewines. Both quarterbacks put on
a show.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Again.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
The Bills ended up winning forty two to thirty one.
But a lot of people don't remember that that ninety
four season, the Bills had come down off of their reign.
They would end up going I don't know what they were,
they like seven and something, seven and seven and nine maybe,
But just think about nineteen ninety four and that night
(04:29):
and that and that time, Like, what do you guys
think about when you hear these names that I just mentioned.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I think really good fun football. I think it's one
of those things.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
That where we a lot of people not our age Jason,
even yours Dan, but I would say that Sam, if
you were to ask somebody like, hey, what was football
like when you had Jim Kelly and Dan Marino and whatever,
you would think a lot more conservative, a lot more running.
But yet those two teams, Dann Reno, they never ran
the football. And then the K gun offense, though it
(05:01):
had Thurman Thomas, it was as much Thurman out of
the backfield as anything. And was it kind of like
spread offense for for spread offensive school, high powered, high scoring.
I think it'd be very different than how people think.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'll ever forget. Nineteen ninety four in the NFL was
the seventy fifth anniversary, and so that is when you
saw a wide variety of different uniforms pop up at
the time, most notably the San Francisco forty nine ers
loved their throwbacks and felt that they were so superstitious
about it that they continued to wear them and wore
(05:35):
them in the Super Bowl that they ended up beating
your guys, Chargers or Chargers. In January of nineteen ninety five,
but that ninety four season, there was a diamond patch
put on NFL uniforms that year signifying the seventy fifth anniversary,
and teams were encouraged to wear their throwback uniforms at
that time. So don't call it a throwback. Yeah, don't
(05:55):
call it a throwback, but they were in nineteen ninety four.
I remember that I bought a this was and this
it was not as much of a craze at the time.
I shouldn't say I bought it. My mom bought it
for me. You get new school clothes, right for me?
My senior year in high school. I'm going to graduate
in nineteen ninety five. I wanted one thing authentic NFL
(06:21):
Marshall Falk jersey. Ooh, Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, Marshall fulk Okay.
So the jersey comes in with the diamond patch on it,
but they make the jerseys it was so authentic then,
Doug that it was authentic to the team. So it
was like tight around the shoulder pads. So like when
(06:42):
I ordered my size, which was my normal size, the
jersey was so small that I had to give it
to like my twelve year old cousin because I couldn't
wear it because of the way that it fit, and
because it was custom, because they didn't make Marshall falk
jerseys then, like you had to ask like A or
f Aulk and I want the number twenty eight. You
(07:03):
couldn't return it, even though it was a player that
was thirty years ago. Now you go on the NFL
shop and the new players signs and his jersey is
up practically the next day. But it was not that
easy back then. It had the because why would a
running back want to loose jersey? Right? He wants it
tight against the pads. That's what I remember about nineteen
ninety four in the NFL. One of the things that
(07:23):
I remember from nineteen ninety four in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
By the way, the Dolphins went on to win the
NFC or AFC East that year. Bernie Parmley led their
team in rushing. A guy named Irving Spikes was second
on that team. That was a team with oj McDuffie.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Oj McDuffie Penn State, right.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, and his son is a good player in the
league right now, correct or is that a different McDuffie.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Sarah Trent? Is it Trent? Is that I want to
say they're related. I could be right. I don't know.
I do not know that.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I found this interesting. This is where Sam's really going
to get engaged. The movie that took over nineteen ninety
four pulp fiction.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So a great movie, a great movie. Here's here's one
part about nineteen eighty four. That was when I fell
in love with the La Charger of the Santego Chargers.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Remember that tea.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes, Natron means business. Stand the man Humphreys. They they
beat the Dolphins and the Steelers and then took on
the Niners led by Steve Young in the Super Bowl
and just got completely housed. But Stan the man Humphreys
and the running back was Natron means business, right. That
(08:41):
was That was back when Chris Chris Berman was big too.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Natron means It was also a time in the NFL
where it was the forty nine Ers and Cowboys and
everybody else that was the Packers were trying to build up.
The Bears were no longer a thing. The Giants it
kind of moved on from their time. It had been
years since they had been in those Super Bowls. It
(09:05):
was a and it was an arms race. This was Dion,
Remember goes to the forty nine Ers, helps them win
the Super Bowl, then the next year ends up joining
the Cowboys and doing his thing. But it was you
weren't close. It was Cavaliers Warriors esque. I would say
of that NFL season on who was going to end
(09:26):
up just playing? You just felt like the Cowboys and
forty nine Ers were going to meet the NFC Championship game,
and whoever won that game was going to win the
Super Bowl because whoever played from the AFC was not
going to be able to compete.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
You bring up Dion, I want to say he was
doing both sports that year. He played for the Braves
and the Falcons at some point in the nineties, and
I want to say when he was shipped to San Francisco,
he also was shipped to the Giants. He was playing
in San Francisco on the baseball team and the football team.
(09:59):
Fact check me on, but I think I got that right.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
By the way, previous fact check no relation between Trent
McDuffie and OJ McDuffie.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Only do a fact check if it confirms what I said.
We're only going to check one person here. Isn't that
the controversy, right? But if one person saying all the
wrong things. Don't we have to fact check. I don't
know how it all works. I will say this, I
do remember from nineteen ninety four. Okay, so we all
remember when the snow cave the Metro domin right. Do
(10:28):
you remember when the tiles fell from the Kingdome?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So that was in nineteen ninety four. And the reason
I bring it up is because the Seahawks couldn't play
at the Kingdome.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
So they played at the Husky Stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes, yes, and they really weren't that good, but they
started out two and zero that year, and then you're like, wow,
they because they for as bad as they were, playing
in the Kingdome was such an advantage. I think they
they played the Steelers, I think in one of the
two games it was, and they ended up losing one
of the two. They didn't have a great year that year,
(11:05):
but they started out to and oh and then I
remember they had to go. They went and played at
Husky Stadium, which looked just so weird because you were
so used to seeing them in the Kingdome. But yeah,
that was in nineteen ninety four. And then after a
little while, you're like, all right, we need a new
stadium here. Let's get this.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
It could be the problem with going to a game
where concrete might fall on your face.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
People were so soft these days. They were soft nineteen
ninety four as well. What's a little concrete, right?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You know what started in the fall of nineteen they
were by the way, they were fiberglass, so oh they
were Oh okay, what started in nineteen ninety four? Doug
the sitcom Friends follow nineteen ninety four, must see.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
TV, Must see TV in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well, Seinfeld was in there somewhere. Yeah, Seinfeld was, I
think tops then because Cheers it left in ninety three.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Am started in ninety four. Yet had that's what started? Kramer?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What are you talking about? I'm sorry, Fraser, I check that, Yeah, yeah,
Maye Fraser may have been around a little bit. Seinfeld
was the king though. It was eighth central, I know
that for sure. And then Friends was at seven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Guys, I was only eight years central times. Central time
is so weird for you to go by, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Anyway, guys, I was only eight years old.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
But one of the best biggest hits for Soundgarden came
out in nineteen ninety four, black hole.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Sun Sun.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Had a resurgence a year or two ago. This year
with the eclipse, it came back into the rock charts.
Because of the eclipse, people are listening to it.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Senior ye in high school? Right there, boys, there you go?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Good time?
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Did that?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Was I any Commosi? Nineteen ninety four? It comes the
hot step?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Did Vitology come out in early ninety four? Was that?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'm I'm we're still rocking?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Pearl jam ten? I know Pearl jam ten was probably
ninety sure.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But you had verses one, I think, but I thought,
you know, I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Vitology was was definitely ninety four ninety Yeah, it was yep.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Kirk at Fenway this weekend, by the way, man who
did Kirk Cobain died in ninety four?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, the PlayStation was launched. I had the original for
just in time for Christmas nineteen ninety four. One A
lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
The PS one. Yeah, great, great game system, really good
game system.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I remember many.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
How many game systems have you actually owned? JASO.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I'm not a gamer and my son is not a
big gamer, so that I'm bad got to ask, But
I will say this, I currently have a PlayStation four,
and I do. I watched my entire TV on that.
All the apps that I watch, all the streaming apps
are on a PlayStation four that I own, but maybe
maybe I've owned three total in my life.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I remember renting a PlayStation because I didn't have one.
You know, you could rent it from the video stores. Yeah,
bluck plush, Yes, getting a college football video game and
playing it and not realizing it was Were memory cards
used in PS once, No, you know, I think they did, yeah,
(14:24):
Xbox No.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
No, I never had a PS one, You're right, so
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
PlayStation one also was the first to use a disc,
a spinning disk. Yes, yes, there's all these cartridges before,
and I had and I just thought that my game
would automatically be saved. And I kept on trying to
play these college football seasons with Ohio State, and every
single time it would give me the season opening game
and the games by then, you know, it took like
forty five minutes, so it wasn't like a quick game
(14:50):
that I was flying through, and so I'd shut it
off and I didn't realize that I needed a memory
card because it used to be just saved on the
cartridge if you had Sega Genesis.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But I'm like, gosh, why is it this saving my game?
Do I just have to leave this thing on the
whole time? But yeah, those are those were that was
the technology that was fooling me.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Nineteen ninety four was NHL ninety four? Did we mention
this or is this my brain playing?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You didn't mention it? But you did not, No, we
did not.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's like one of the greatest video games of all
time ninety four.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
That was game referenced in Swingers.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean the big thing was the use of
the one timer was I mean that was it was
pretty money.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You scored almost that will that way.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I had a great game. I had such a tough
time figure out how to score goals in those games.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
You had to hold down the button and then release
it right as you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Got the pig game. Yeah, I know, the one timers
were the easier way. But how like you could I
was big.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
I would gretzky, I would go around the back of
the net.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I couldn't do that. Yeah, I would just have to
take a slap shot and then it would be saved.
I was more of a rowneck guy. Ronick Jimmy Ronick
Mike McDonough.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Was Rome still on at night at that point in
time or did he go national middle of the day.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I think it was right in the right when he
started to go during the daytime and then they gave
him that talk to show. Jim Everett was right around
those times.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I had surgery on my thumb in nineteen ninety four,
dislocated a video games Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasn't fun.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
What's the segment called, don't call it a throwback?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yes, yes, don't call it a throwback Thursday.
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You got to keep her there, Jason.
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Speaker 6 (17:21):
Jared.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Let's get ready for tonight's game, shall we? Buffalo Miami
played each other twice a year every year since the
nineteen sixty six AFL season. The Dolphins have won all
twenty games over the Bills in the nineteen seventies, but
after that it changed to Buffalo had four straight victories
against Miami. The Bills are eleven to one the last
twelve head to head matchups, including escaping thirty four to
(17:42):
thirty one at home in the Wildcard round of the
AFC Playoffs in January of twenty twenty three. Now, the
last loss was two years ago in September in Miami,
but it was during a day game where the heat
was intense.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Let's start with tonight.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
How much do you think the lack of sunshine on
that visiting sideline changes this game for Buffalo?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yeah? I think it matters. I think the injuries matter,
especially for Miami dealing with most dirt out as Shane
also banged up. So the running back room, which is
important for the Dolphins. Last week they had over or
they had two running backs on the field on over
fifty percent of their snaps. So we'll see what the
formations are tonight. We know you know McDaniel loves to
mix things up for Buffalo Toron Johnson, they're all pro
(18:26):
corners out. That's good news for Tyreek Hill, that's good
news for Jalen Watto, good news for this Miami passing game.
I think gamescript matters could see a little weather obviously South
Florida and you know in September could see a spotty
shower go through. I did see the total tick down
a little bit. I think if it is moving just
based off of weather. I grew up down there in
South Florida, could be five minutes to rain and in
(18:47):
nothing the whole night, So keep an eye on that.
Of course, live betting the total is always intriguing when
you see how these teams start. I think the key
is how does Buffalo handle third downs? Doug We know
they like to heat up. Anyone on third downs, especially
a quarterback is talented. Is to with the offensive line
issues that Miami has. The problem is too specifically against
the blitz has been very good last year, eleven touchdowns
and no picks, a very quick time to throw rate.
(19:09):
They're very good at getting the ball out of their
hands quickly if they can detect that blitz. So how
Buffalo disguises those blitzes, and it's gonna be key on
third downs. I think how Miami wins on that down.
If they can protect and allow to it to push
the ball down the field, they should have an edge.
With Buffalo secondary a little bit nicked up.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, how good is Buffalo? Do you think at the
end of the day.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
I think Josh Allen's really good. I think that's the end.
That really is the end, all be all. He had
one of the highest success rates of any quarterback last week.
But Buffalo is flawed and their defense is banged up.
Milano's hurt now their best corners out, and I think
over time, what we've seen with the Bills is the
attrition doesn't favor them. They're a very slow, methodical offense.
(19:51):
They don't run with a ton of pace. That means
they need to take advantage of their drives and Josh
Allen has to be the savior. Now he has been
in one game against Arizona's defense. How does he handle
a short turnaround on the road against a much feistier
defense with the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Jared Smith
joining us.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Of course, he's our picks are betting.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Analyst's let's let's get to a couple of college games,
shall we? Sneaky good Big twelve game Arizona? I think
what seven point dog at k State? Now they're both
in the Big twelve, but this is not a Big
twelve game.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
What do you think of the line?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
I think Kansas State's gonna run the ball. I think
that's been their mo from you know, regardless of whatever
conference they play in, or whatever conference opponent they play in,
or if it's a non conference game, the defense for
Arizona struggles. I think Avery Johnson's mobility is going to
be key. They need to play a little bit faster.
Kansas State tends to be a little bit slow, but
(20:53):
I think in this particular game at home, with an
opponent coming into Manhattan that is not used to playing
in Manhattan, Kansas, I do think speeding up the tempo
and getting those two running backs Giddins and Edwards the
ball quickly in space is key. They love to be
exotic with their run games. They'll put both guys on
the field, they'll run wheel routs and eye candy out
of the backfield. And I think Arizona which again outside
(21:15):
the top eighty in rush defense so far this year,
might struggle to stop it. Arizona's offense is the exact opposite.
It's very explosive. Fafeta the quarterback's been great. They've got
this kid McMillan on the outside that is an He
might be the best player in the country, an incredible receiver.
And Kansas State's defense last week, what we saw against
Tulane is struggled in communication, struggled with some of these lapses.
(21:38):
They gave up ten completions of ten or more yards.
Three of them went for twenty plus. So Arizona, which
can stretch the field, if they can hit some of
these explosives and turn Kansas State into a negative game
script where they can't use their running game, I think
that's the path for Arizona to cover this. But if
Case States gets that ground game going and they're turning
it out and Avery Johnson's and around and Giddins and
(22:01):
Edwards are doing their thing, I think Arizona's defense might
just get overwhelmed in this game.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Bama travels to take on Wisconsin. They're a road favorite
against the Badgers.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Yeah, we've seen this one. Get bet up pretty heavily
right a Bama minus nine, minus ten over the summer
for Alabama. Now we're seeing it up to sixteen seventeen.
So I think at what point do we see the
Wisconsin money step in. They have been good in this spot.
Three and zero against the number is a double digit
home dog. Now they're all against Ohio State, so it's
kind of a style make fights. Alabama comes in with
(22:33):
a much different kind of offense. They want to attack
the immediate part of the intermediate part of the field.
That's something that Jalen Milroe has I think improved in.
They're better at stretching it deep. I think the Wisconsin
defense needs to show me a little something in this game.
They're giving up a lot of push to you know,
backs like Jalen Buckley out of Western Michigan and Charles
Pierre out of South Dakota. Alabama's going to come in
(22:55):
with a different level of athlete and I think that's
what concerns me in this game for Wisconsin's offense. Unless
Tyler Van Dyke is a hero, I just don't see
a path for Wisconsin in this game. He leaves a
lot to be desired. Does not look healthy the outside
the top one hundred and QBR. I think the difference
Thug is is we're not seeing this same style of
Wisconsin offense that's been successful in years past. Luke Fickle's
(23:17):
coming in and kind of changing some things. It's not
the same kind of offensive line, it's not the same
kind of run game. That is the recipe for beating Alabama.
You just do what Michigan did to him last year,
and you just bludgeon them. I don't know if Wisconsin
is that kind of Wisconsin this year. This is not
a Monty Ball kind of team, a Ron Dayn kind
of team. They're a little more spread it out now
with Van Dyke and Fickle running the show. So I'm
(23:40):
a little concerned that they're kind of a poor man's
Bama in this spot in Alabama's going to come in
and just wipe the flour of them. The atmosphere could
matter Madison early game. I think that could be some variants,
But if all in a vacuum, I think Alabama just
kind of plays a better brand of football right now
and they should cover this.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You never know, though, in camp brand that could be
really really is just college Gambay is going to LSU
South Carolina. Well, last we tell LSU, of course they
lost a close one to start the season. What are
your thoughts on trying to beat the game Cocks.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I'm disappointed with LSU's offense so far, sixty one yards
rushing against Nicols State Emery. There are stars out now
with an ACL injury, you could tell they're really missing
Jade Daniel's mobility. There's no respect for nus Meyer in
the RPO game. They have one of the best offensive
lines in the country, which is why you would think
they'd be able to get pushed. But now they're basically
(24:32):
down to their second and third string running backs and
they just need more at that side of the ball.
The one positive I can say about LSU is they're
not turning the ball over and nuss Meyer, who can
be a bit of a gunslinger, zero turnover worthy throws
in two games, so I think improved decision making. Certainly,
South Carolina's defense, the pass rush very dynamic. Dylan Stewart,
(24:54):
this five star freshman, is an absolute rock star. The
front has ten sacks and two games overall, so I'm
curious if they can create some holes and what's a
very good LSU front. The two data points for South
Carolina against Old Dominion in Kentucky without Liam Cohen, very
different Kentucky offense. Without Liam Cohen. You're seeing what he's
doing in the NFL with the Tampa Bay Bucks. They're
(25:15):
not overly impressive. This will be the best offense that
South Carolina has phased thus far. And for LSU's defense,
if they can stop the run, they're down one of
the best d lineman Guilliries out for the year. If
they can stop the run and make South Carolina one dimensional,
I do think they can and should win this game.
But you're on the road game days in town and
(25:36):
nuss Meyer's kind of been not as effective in the
running game, hasn't been able to establish that, So I'm
a little bit concerned with laying a number with LSU
in this game.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Fair enough, Okay, you got a couple of rivalry games,
actually had three rivalry games that you'd normally have late
in the year, but with new conferences, whatever, you got
Apple Cup. You got the Civil War, which is Oregon
Oregon State, and you had the Backyard Brawl which is
Pittsburgh and we and West Virginia, the of the two
(26:06):
of the in the Northwest, which is the most competitive.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I think Washington has a chance to really kind of
put their foot down. Washington State is a bit of
a paper tiger, so they beat Texas Deck last week
as a dog, and that's why you've seen this number move.
So this number was Washington minus eight last week and
now it's minus four and a half. And I don't
know if that went over Texas dech matters because two
weeks ago Texas Deck gave up fifty one to Abolion
(26:31):
Christian needed overtime. So I think Washington who has looked
better than I expected. I mean, they got raided obviously
after Penix Leaves and all the receivers go coach Leaves
oc Leaves, but they kind of stabilized things.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
They have found a little bit of consistency. They've got
Will Rogers, the Mississippi State transfer, playing quarterback. Their running
game is really good. Jonah Coleman's a workhorse, very elusive,
and their offensive line is is better than I expected.
The skill room despite losing three guys to the the NFL,
better than expected Boston Denzel Boston on the outside of
two touchdowns last week. The Washington State offense is very volatile.
(27:08):
They've got this dual threat Materier quarterback ran for two
hundred yards last week. I like the ocr buckle, but
I think Washington controls the trenches in this game. Neutral game.
It's in Lumenfield in Seattle to Seahawks Stadium, and I
think four and a half too big of an adjustment,
just based off of that win for Wazoo over Texas
deck last week. Oregon I was closed, Doug. I was
close to betting Oregon State this week, but it feels
(27:29):
like everyone is betting Oregon State last week after what
we saw from Oregon almost losing the Boise, not playing
well against Idaho. The offensive line is in shambles. I
do think at some point Dan Lanning figures it out.
He's a really good coach and they've got talent. They
just need to protect a little bit better. And they've
got a quarterback who can chuck it a little bit. Gabriel.
You know he has experience. Oregon State lost a ton.
(27:50):
I would not be shocked if Oregon ran up that score.
So I think of the two Northwest games, I like
Washington the best against Washington State.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
All right, backyard bro Pitt West Virginia m so I.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
West Virginia's been hot in this series, but last year's
game was Lasher's game might have been the ugliest collegeable
game of the year. Pitt is a completely different team
this year. They brought in it's like anti Nardoozi. They
brought in this ock bell from Western Carolina. They're averaging
over five hundred yards per game. They're third in places
per minute, like they went from the stone age offense
(28:23):
to now like modern, hyper ludicrous speed. They're running back
that they brought in from Western Carolina, Desmond Reid. He's
number one in the country in all purpose yards. He
can fly. So this is a very it's a high
variance game. West Virginia hasn't looked good. I mean, honestly,
one hundred and thirty first in defensive coverage. They were
allowing explosive plays last week to Albany. They let six
(28:44):
different Albany receivers have a reception of twenty or more yards.
We know what they did against Penn State and the
opener I think give him a pass for that game.
The number is begging you to take West Virginia. But
something about Pitt's offense high variants. I think I would.
I would rather be on Pitt's side here because I
like what I've seen from this offense early. But it's volatile.
It could completely bust out. You saw what happened against
(29:05):
Cincinnati last week. It was a really tight game and
all of a sudden or excuse me, they were down
big and then all of a sudden, Pit just exploded
and came back and won that game. Wouldn't be shocked
if they didn't have as much gas in the tank
this week against West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Jared Smith, Okay, I can check them out on Countdown
to Kickoff right here on Fox Sports Radio every Saturday,
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Speaker 4 (29:26):
Course is presented by Bett MGM. You're the best, Jared,
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Good luck Dock.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 3 (29:39):
Appy, you can tell me you about your generation, your
ERAUS children of the nineties, Lewis, let's do this. It's
a gott Leave show Fox Sports Radio. Little don't call
it a throwback Thursday regulators always mounted up right. Let's
(30:00):
get you to the press, the press.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What he got there, danby, I do want to give
Iowa Sam. Did you talk about a lot about yesterday
your Iowa meetup that you had. Were you able to
do that on the show yesterday? No, So when Sam
was in Iowa City, you got to meet up with
a bunch of fellow Hawkeys or hawkeys that were in Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
It was a symposium, the ninth Anneal Symposium for so
I was gone from the show Friday, Monday and Tuesday,
ninth Annal Symposium for the Sport and Recreate Recreation Management Department.
I was a panelist and got to network for some
students and some other people there, and uh, Dan noticed
I posted on Facebook, and Dan noticed something that he
thought was funny, and yeah, go ahead, d No.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think I actually, first of all awesome that you
got to go to be a part of it. It
is a wonderful event and even more awesomer that you
were a panelist and were able to share your experiences.
Talk a lot about Fox Sports Radio. We bust chops
a lot here, but I think that should be recognized
as a kudos and the thumbs up to you. What
I did find unique and Doug in the most Iowa
(31:10):
Sam Way ever. Sam posted I would say, I don't
know twelve pictures from his experience.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
It was it was the EUI SRM Sports Recreation Management's
own post share.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It was, That's what it was. So Sam shared it Doug,
but he only liked the pictures that he was in,
or the pictures where it appeared there were really important
people in the way. He skipped over some random shots
of maybe other students talking or other panelists talking that
weren't as important, but he made sure to like the
ones that he was in. But okay, and like the
(31:43):
ones where like it looked like people that were like,
you know, the who's who of that symposia.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
Let me in my defense, isn't it kind of weird
when you like every single photo in like an album
on social media, Like could you could like the whole album?
I did do that, Yes, But then you go back
in life edual pictures that you were in, yes, right,
and video of me too.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And Doug. These weren't like here's Sam with an award.
It was just him was he was just you know,
I was just like a random person in the shot.
But yeah, I'm looking at there's a meeting with someone
from the Kansasty Chiefs. I did not like that photo.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
There's a couple of a couple of grad students with
their scholarship padfolio. As they said, I did not like
that one. But you know what, I did like a
couple that I was not in, and so, uh it
was a wonderful said to like all of the ones
that you were in. Yes, I want people. I wanted
people to you know, see that there I was in
my event.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
On an island here, Doug, I just find it just
it's just it's a little quirk of Iowa Sam that
I just.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I think it's amazing. I didn't have noticed any of that.
Now I'm gonna check that out all the time. Good good,
good work.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
I don't I don't know if I necessarily follow that
process or protocol every time, but uh no, yeah, you know,
I got to h it was a wonderful event.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I glad I went onto uh on some more serious issues.
As for the AJ Griffin story, Doug Shams reported for
The Athletic there was no story attached to it, so
it's just the point of that AJ Griffin is seriously
considering stepping away from basketball at this time, for the
Houston Rockets. How about this situation involving two thousand and
five Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush. His home was broken
(33:19):
into early Tuesday in Los Angeles, but he stold the
La Times that nothing was stolen from his place, everyone
was safe, but three men dressed in all black entered
his residents at about twelve thirty early Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
In Encino, man, I mean, and Sino has gotten so
much nicer in terms of the quality of home. It's
very close to where Spoxsports Trade is located for people
to understand, but they've had a lot of these break
ins and guys like that are targets at is scary
scary stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, absolutely, it's just such such a violation as well.
When I was younger, we had somebody walk into our
house in the middle of the night, and then you're
on edge for yeah, forever.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I lived in Encino for a number like six years,
and yeah, I feel lately in La and Sino for
some reason has been like a target. There have been
like break ins literally every other night for like the
last month. And you know, there's other beautiful homes all
over the valley, but for some reason, Encino has been
sort of focused on by Burglars.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
The big news in college sports today the PAC twelve
announcing the additions of Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State,
and San Diego State that will join the league in
twenty twenty six. It'll be a six school league at
this time, as the conference will still need to add
two more schools to reach the eighteen minimum required to
maintain its FBS status.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I get why wa Zoo in Oregon State want to
stay in it because then they can collect all that
money from all the teams that left. I understand why
standing in the state, Colorado State want to get to
the PAC twelve. But it's not the PAC twelve. So
unless they know something we don't, I mean, USC and
UCLA are not leaving the Big ten. If maybe it's
(34:58):
the plan is they think the eight CC is gonna
fall apart and they'll get Callen Stanford back. But that's
still not a power five league. It's just not and
it won't demand the type of money from television they
wanted to demand.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
The Jacksonville Jaguars are hosting the Cleveland Browns on Sunday,
and their home opener, and it will be the opener
at Trevor Bank Stadium on Sunday, Renamed as part of
a collaboration with the stadium's naming rights sponsor EverBank and
quarterback Trevor Lawrence. They are calling it Trevor Bank Stadium
(35:33):
in a one game only affair. It will continue to
be EverBank, but this Sunday it will be Trevor Bank
when they face the Browns.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Now, they're facing the Browns, so they should be good.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The Browns defense, we'll see. And the Jaguars had the
Dolphins dead to rights. Travis Etn is about to prance
it to the end zone, I know, and he fumbles.
Speaking of the Dolphins, they got the Bills tonight Devon
h hen game time decision with an ankle injury. H
N is expected to go Doug. I like the Dolphins tonight.
(36:04):
Are the Bills on a short week still having problems
with defense? I expressed that last week. I like the
Dolphins to go to and Llo with a win tonight
against Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I like the Dolphins as well, even though I think
the Bills are better.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yes, we'll see if that heat that Mike Sandal talked
about will get to them, and that's the press.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
That was the press.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
No mind to check out the podcast downloaded at the
top of the hour. You get an extra third hour
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download this podcast as well.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
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