September 17, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug reacts to what the Arkansas AD recently said about NIL. Doug welcomes former Super Bowl champion head coach Brian Billick onto the show to talk about Tua, Sam Darnold, XTech Shoulder Pads and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a Tuesday edition of "The Press".
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Let's take a little break for a second from NFL
talk from the Eagles, which I'm just I don't. I
don't like the Eagles. I don't like anything about them.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I respect when they're good in football, but I just
not a it's fun, it's it's enjoyable to watch the
Eagles lose, especially at home, really enjoyable watch the Cowboys
lose as well. So it's a good weekend. Everybody else
had a good weekend if you include the app absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
A hundred euros.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sich is the new asy athletic director at Arkansas, and
Arkansas obviously Sam h Sam Pittman's their head coach coaching football.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I saw a great T shirt. We almost always Uh
were we? What is it?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We always almost we almost always almost always always almost win? Yeah,
we almost we always almost always no hold on start,
let's start, let's start again. We Arkansas football.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We always.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Almost win something like that anyway. And then of course
in basketball they hired John cal Perry, and I think
the guy's name is John Tyson, the guy from Tyson Foods.
That's Tyson Chicken, right, that's right there. In Arkansas has.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Donated huge money.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And previous when they had Eric Musselman, the story was
that while other people would donate money to NIL, the
Tyson Foods guy would only donate to the school, not
to NIL. And those are two separate things. Because so
many in industry don't want, they don't believe in donating.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Strictly straight to the kids. They just don't.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Here's under Eurosis. Who's the ad at Arkansas talking about NIL?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It has been terrible, it's been it's been awful. NIL
the way it was intended, the way it was intended
July first of twenty twenty one, that if a student
athlete had a value to their name, image, or likeness,
and there was a business product or service like one
of these many businesses up here that wanted to use
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a student athlete to market their business productors servis, well
they could receive compensation, valid compensation to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
And that's how this all started.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And our student athletes in their first year did an
incredible job going out and knocking on doors and beating
the bushes, and they generated almost two and a half
million dollars in what I will call was legitimate NIL
agreements that they went out and got on their own.
But in college athletics, we are our own worst enemy,
and we find the loophole.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
To every single rule in the rule book.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And we found a loophole where we created these things
called collectives and collectives or donors pulling their resources together
to pay student athletes. Collectives under the auspice of doing
work charitable work, whether that was tweeting about a charitable
organization or signing autographs or making public appearances. But the
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amounts of money that were getting paid were simply ridiculous
and still our ridiculous and they just continue to be
ridiculous because when business are making decisions, you make good
business decisions. Right, If you're going to hire a student
athlete to market your business, you're going to pay them
market value. Well, collectors aren't paying market value, they're just
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buying teams, and so that figure has grown to a
just a ridiculous number, and athletic directors are charged many
times with going out and raising those dollars to various means.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
And now we've.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Finally gotten their footing at the University of Arkansas in
the NIL world, but we're not where we need to be.
I will tell you, the upper echelon of the SEC
in football is probably spending double of what we're spending
on our football program right now in the NIL space.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
That's reality.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So, I mean, you can blame that on Sam Pittman,
but it's not Sam Pittman's problem. It's his problem, but
it's a money problem, right, because if someone's spending double
of what we're spending, they're going to have a corner.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
On the market.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Stutgttleabs show here on Fox Sports Radio. There is a
lot to it, but what he's saying is exactly right.
And oh yeah, by the way, if you followed me
for a long time, I have been an opponent of nil.
Not because I don't think a guy should be able
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to represent a lot meats or festival foods, or or
the Legacy hotel in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Not because of that,
but because everyone who saw this happening new it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Would be pay for play. And you're you're dishonest with yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You're definitely dishonest with the rest of us, dishonest with
the rest of us if if you think otherwise, and
they're just isn't a reward for doing it quote unquote
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the right and traditional way, you know, And it's just
there's so many things that fans don't realize. And this
was a push for a long time for you know,
when people said nil and the NCAA was d'arconian or whatever,
but this is what they were protecting against.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Everybody knew it. Everybody knew it. It's not great, It's
really not not.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
At all because there is zero value in the actual
education which should be provided. Now, some of that is
like we've gotten to the point where kids won't even
take step foot on campus.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Look, it hasn't made it to where it's funny.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
The NCAA their argument before Congress was or before the
judges has.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Been that it would destroy.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Equal opportunity to be successful. And the truth is there
is no real equal opportunity. The best who are most
funded have always been the best. I think what's changed
is that you can win anywhere if you have a
lot of money. If you have a lot of money,
the problem is that the parody has will start to
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and continue to disappear because two conferences have so much
more money than everybody else, so much more money than
everywhere else. And again, I continue to believe that the
way to fix it is that you have to sit
out when you transfer, and you cannot get a check
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until you've actually played a season or played you know,
four games whatever, established some value for yourself at your
current school.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's my belief.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Because you don't really have name image and like as
fresh as maybe Arch Banning. But again he can use
his own private industry or whatever. But the collective the
idea of like Arch Banning, and that's because of he's
the Manning family. That's where you get into a real
kind of gray area. Way, can Arch Banning not make
money because even though he didn't play, he was still
crazy popular?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Sure? Sure. What's interesting is.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Players have to pay taxes on their nil money. And
if you ask most coaches, actually, I'm guessing if you
ask all coaches and you say, do you think any
of your guys have paid attention to the idea they're
gonna have to pay taxes on.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Their money or do they have any of the money
to they have?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Are there great stories of people buying books, buying charitable stuff,
buying stuff for other teammates, although most of the stuff
the other teammates come from the actual sponsor itself, not
from the player.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, there absolutely are, But.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I would also tell you that there's probably in the
sixty to seventy percent variety that money that you give
them that they don't quote unquote need, because you still
get room and board, you still get cost of attendance,
you still get what's called Alston money. And some players
that come from tough backgrounds to get pel grant you know,
part of FAFSA as well, So you'll have guys that,
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regardless of nil, you know, they're pocketing in the five
grand or so a month, maybe a little bit less
than that because the pell is sixty six hundred. The
Ulston money is like seven thousand, but it's basically thirty
five hundred a semester.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like kind of do the math.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But you get cost of attendance plus your room and
board check, and you're staying at usually the nicest place
either on campus or in town. So in addition to
all that, you're getting your nil money. You don't necessarily
need it as a freshman, and if you're not playing,
you have no name, image and likeness value in my opinion, Buyer,
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you're an Ohio State fan. Everyone knows they've gone out
and spent and spent and spent. Is there any like
this kind of feels icky?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, the the whole thing does I you know, like,
as the you know, the clip was talking about, my
naive mind thought, hey, this will be good for an
offensive lineman to go to the local car dealership and
sign some autographs on a Sunday afternoon and get a
little extra change in his pocket or something. Like that
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was me being just completely naive to the whole deal.
And yeah, it's not it's not great. And even today
the state of Georgia, you know, allowing their athletes to
be paid directly, as their governor signed this order which
could put now Georgia at an advantage over other schools.
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And if you're Georgia or Georgia Tech, your other schools
in the SEC or ACC or SEC, you're now at
a disadvantage. And this is all stuff that had never
even mind wildest dreams would would have fasted.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So tell me what the what the Georgia rule is?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So this is so schools in Georgia have now legal
cover to immediately begin paying their athletes directly. This is
according to an executive order signed by Governor Brian Kemp
that prohibits the NCAA or Athletic Conferences from punishing any
university or college in Georgia for offering compensation or compensating
a student athlete for the use such as the student athletes. Nil,
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So what was.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Going to happen next year? They just sped up the process.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, yeah, because for people don't know next year, I
don't know if it's been made official but pretty much
everybody knows they're going to all this is going to
come up to that department. The one thing is, and
I've talked to a lot of people previous to getting
this job, and now that I have this job, the
idea of hiring athletes as employees will not work if
you hear people saying that they don't understand how it
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all works, because remember that puts you in the exact
same pool as the associate athletic director, the assistant soccer coach,
all this other stuff. And there are again every state
constitution is just is it a lot? And in order
to make hires you have to go through an entire
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hiring process. You can make emergency hires, but you can't
make emergency hires for eighty five scholarship players or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They go one hundred scholarship players to go to next year.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
In football, you know, and and you know again part
of for example, University of Wisconsin, say Wisconsin, I have
one assistant coach that I'm going to hire shortly, I've
already hired my staff. I have room for one more.
I have to have a committee approved thorough background case.
They have to have multiple interviews like that just the
process is a lot. So in addition to that, then
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you have you know, benefits packages, then you have all
different sorts of hr things. It's just it won't work.
It will not work. It will not work. And it
also eliminates the tax shelter that athletics benefits under because
now you're basically putting people in the gen pop and
you're paying a decorated music teacher less than you're paying
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an offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That won't work. None of that stuff works anyway. I'm sorry, go.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Ahead, you know the thing that I was going to say,
and I think that your explanation of this is really
good compared to what I'm about to say, because I
think in your sport, just on the surface, I think
NIL has been good for college basketball, where it's allowed
guys to stay in school and not leave and feel
like they needed to get a paycheck, and it has
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allowed the sport to maybe have more recognizable names in
the past. I don't think you're going to get that
in football in Ohio State was in a unique situation
just because you brought them up earlier, where you have
the Michigan thing, but now you also have the now
twenty million dollar nil price tag where a lot of
guys ended up. Yeah, I'll return to school. I'll do that.
You know, there's unfinished business. But if if you weren't
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getting any of that nil money, that business probably would
have been unfinished and they would have went into the
NFL and got their signing bonus and did what they
needed to do. But it has allowed, at least in
that program guys to stay back. But I think college
basketball on the surface has benefited for US fans in
that way. But compared to what you just said, it
just seems like an absolute headache in real world situations.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It is, and it is like, look, the biggest issue
is this, Let's just be honest. The biggest issue is
your pool of donors. And obviously it changes based upon
your school in the size. And we just had this
conversation with my when I went to the Packer Games
with my MATTHI director Josh Burn. It's like, you can't
keep asking the same people for money. You know, I
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have a list of guys. They're just really good people.
They really want to help, and I'm very cautious of
who to ask for what right now, Like I'm my
general way of doing things was we had a little
pool of money. I want to save as much as
I could because I like the players I have and
my goal. I think you build a winning program, especially
at this or maybe even at an a level with
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a high retention rate, high recipitous rate.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Bring them all back.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And but you know, it's like, there's other things we
need in the program. There's more money that is needed.
But I can't keep going to the same people to
ask for money. Hey, you made a donation, then you
bought tickets, you know, then you bought something at you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Know, an auction at our golf tournament.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Then you had something else you already gave money, Like
now we got to ask you for nil. Like at
some point they're just like, dude, you're just what I
love this school, I love what you're doing. But I'm
just I'm good, I'm out. So I do think that
bringing it in with the school does help because then
you can just make one ask and get that money
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and then you got to budget it accordingly. But it
definitely isn't what anybody designed it to do. And there's
a massive disparity between the haves and the have nots,
and it what does it teach me? The only part
I will disagree with you. I agree that in college
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basketball it's helped keep some players around more Zach Eaties
perfect example, Hunter Dickinson back at Kansas. The switching schools
even to get the checks has hurt some of that
name recognition. I think the popularity of women's basketball goes
way way back towards normal this year, and I think
men's basketball takes a jump back up. So but I
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think that in college football what it's done. Look at
bo Nick's look at you know all of those quarterbacks
that had been in college football for an extra year,
you know Washington, Oregon, even you know Oklahoma State and
Utah they have two seventh year quarterbacks going out this
weekend and still Water. I actually think it's it's gonna
help that product more and maybe help those players more.
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But they're just they're just a ridiculous amount of money
and a disparity between guys. It's not what college foot
sports is about. It's not what an il supposed to
be about. And just throwing money at a problem or
at one player, I don't think that. I don't think
that works long term.
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Brian Billica joins us in the Doug Gotlieb Show. Of course,
you won the Super Bowl as head coach of Baltimore Ravens,
and he's been analyzing football and been around football for
his entire adult life, and he's kind enough to join
us on behalf of x Tech Shoulder Pads and Coach
I do I do want to start with with shoulder pads.
You know, we've had people talk about helmets, shoulder pads,
increased safety. You, like everybody, we saw what happened with Tua.
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What do you think the likely it is he returns
to be quarterback this year for the Dolphins.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Boy, that's that's a tough one because you're talking about
really an injury, any other injury, you know, the proverbial
high angles frame. You go through a progression of healing up.
When does he be able to get mobility? Do the
doctor sign off of it? And then and then you
have a realistic expectation that it will continue to heal
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barring another hit to it during the course of the season.
Concussion is a totally different breed. This is one that
and it's hard because this has got to be very
much an individual decision by to it. You can't the coaches,
the doctors, all the other stuff because of the long
term ramifications. At some point, you know, his head's going
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to clear off, he's going to feel fine, and he's
going to feel like he can play. But the legitimate
question about the long term effects, and he doesn't have
that perspective of knowing thirty forty years down the line
what kind of effect this is going to have. So
this this is an extremely tough one. But I imagine over
the four weeks it will rectify itself in terms of
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the actually the symptoms. Then he's just going to have
to have the hard face to face conversation in the mirror.
Do I want to continue to take this risk because
of the unique nature of the injury. My guess is
that he will. He is a young man, he's ambition,
he wants to continue to play. He'll feel better. But
this is a tough call.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It definitely is a tough call.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What were your thoughts on how the Eagles handled having
a lead last night?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
You know what, the Eagles are an interesting animal right now.
Let's go back to last year. I mean, there's just
something not right about the Eagles right now. And it's
an extension from last year. You go back to what
were they nine and one, ten and one. I mean,
they looked unbeatable, they looked like a complete team. They
actually and then the next game, I think it was
against the forty nine Ers, they actually took a lead,
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a six nothing lead, and then had absolutely fallen apart.
Since that, the Niners went on and scored i think
versus on every possession. After that, they went on and
won only one of the remaining four or five six games.
And now they've got the talent, they have a confidence
about them, but they just don't seem to be able
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to finish anything. They just don't seem to have any
confidence about what they're doing. This is a strange, strange circumstance.
I don't know that's going to get any better.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I'm fascinated by the Ravens. I don't know how you
lose that game, especially having a lead at home. Offensive
line is not great. It feels like the Derrick Henry.
I don't know if that mix, if it's they haven't
played together enough. But you know, between the offensive line,
Lamar having to run it more, Derrick Henry's not a
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pass catcher out of the backfield just to power back,
and a guy that needs, you know, twenty five thirty
carries to get it going. They're just they're missing on
some stuff early. How fixable are the Ravens problems?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
I think you identifying the offensive line is maybe it's
the core of it. Now let's keep in mind now
they're they're they're a toe touch and another catch from
being two to zero. Same team doing the same thing,
became that close to both games. It was shocking at
home to see the Raiders come back late thirteen points
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against that defense, which is still a really solid defense.
And what's going to be very interesting is the next
three games. I mean, and they're right now, they're a
good team. There's no reason to think that they're not
continuing to be a great, you know, good playoff team.
But they're oh and two and they're now hearing all
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this stuff, all the rhetoric and noise around them. They've
never gone to the playoffs after starting OHO and two,
they've got eleven percent chance oh and two teams do
going to the playoffs. Now this team will kind of
shut that out, but all that noise is going to
continue to go on. And they have a stretch here.
They go on the road to Dallas, a desperate Dallas team,
so both these teams are desperate to win. And then
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they come home against a very good Bills team and
then have to go on the road to Cincinnati. So
this is this is a unique territory. This is a
very good playoff capable Ravens team that could be legit
LEO and five And that's a that's a scary proposition.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Dallas Cowboys, the Saints come in and just molly want them,
molly want them. Was that more about the Saints or
about the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Let's start with the Saints. That that that that was impressive,
and let's go back. Let's look at the Saints over
the last two games. And I know the first game
we gainst. Carolina, but it was a divisional game, so
those those carry a little bit more pressure and weight
with them. What they then offensively is stunning. I mean
they what scored on the first six drives each over
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seventy yards except the last one which is on a
short or the last one of the half, which is
on a short field because of the turnover between the
last two games. They scored on every single possession in
the in the first two halves of their games. Uh,
Derek Carr looks spectacular. They're running the ball. Avan Kamara
is is you know, just maybe the best back that's
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complete back and with the Kubia offense, he is one
of those rare guys and it is rare guys that
truly have a sixth sense about how to run that
zone scheme that has always been so successful going back
to the Shanahan years, Kobeyak and all the success he has.
So this offense of New Orleans is absolutely the real deal.
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And it's fun to watch. Having said that, Dallas have
home getting just you know, they had absolutely no answer
and that and that's hard to face that Mike Zimmer
and that and Mike McCarthy's got to look at that.
I mean, they gave up one hundred and ninety yards
rushing to the Nororleans Saints. They gave up five big
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plays in the passing game. And forget offensively the fact
that they couldn't run the ball and the turn two
two turnovers by Dak because that offense will come back
and be okay. But the defense, boy Ne Orleans as
good as Noorleans is playing that Dallas defense. And now
they're going to face the Ravens team that that that
one two punch of Derrick Henry uh uh and and
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Lamar Jackson pulling it out and get into the outside
a totally different challenge in the stopping this run. But still,
this is this is, this is this is a must
win for both teams.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Bryce Young, It may not be good enough, you may
not be big enough, you may not have the armstring,
But what happened Sunday wasn't about that. Like he he
can't complete basic throws, like he's he's kind of a
mess right now. And I would say, again, this is outsider,
but also kind of coach to coach. It looks like
a guy who's lost his confidence. Is there a way
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to fix that in season?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Well, it's tough. It's yeah, win and go out and
play well. But the things that tended to it and
the reason he's not looking good, are those going to change? Uh?
And then more importantly, now you look what does the
team think? What do they see? And do you stay
with this where now the team's questioning. You know, you
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want to be supportive and hey, we're going to help
you through this this tough time. But but you also
you got to win, and so it typically does it turnaround? No,
But that's a tough that's a tough call when you
make those kind of changes.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm with you, It's just it's a really hard one.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And then and then you factor in he might not
even if he has his confidence back, which is a
long rebuilding process, he still might not be there. You know,
your last year in Minnesota, when you went to the
NFC Championship game, you guys had the best best offense
the world ever seen.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right, it was Randall.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Cunningham, like reinvigorating Randall Cunningham. And I'm just wondering, I
understand it's a different era or whatever we're watching Sam
Darnold similarly with the Vikings. He's had opportunities with the Jets,
with the Panthers, as a backup with the Niners, and
now it does feel like, again we're talking small sample size,
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only two games, but kind of hitting his stride. What's
that like to be a part of a guy who
has the talent and has had people believe in him
and then later in his career kind of starts to
figure it out. When put again, like your Vikings team
with some super talented skill position players.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Yeah, it is exciting. I'd equated more to maybe Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Taken in Mia in Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Expectations goes obviously to Tennessee and things just kind of
click for him. And Sam Donald did look very comfortable
against a good Remember the forty nine defense in particular
in the forty nineteen is pretty darn good. And and
and the fact that brought pretty on the other side
was looking pretty good and was moving the ball, notwithstanding
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in one interception. They had a number of big plays,
but Sam Donald he looked That's the main thing. He
looked comfortable and had the running game going, and he
spread the ball around and he had his share of
the big plays down the field. So yeah, this could
This could be fun. And it's always great to see
when someone is able to re establish themselves. I mean
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they were seven of twelve on third down. That tells
you how comfortable he was in doing what he was doing.
And so yeah, anytime you can see someone remake themselves,
get an opportunity to show that he is capable. Now,
can you sustain it? You know, obviously Minnesota bit of
surprise that they're doing what they're doing right now, but
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playing very very well. So yeah, that's the that's the
key for Sam Darnold. Now can you sustain this over
the entire season. But they he's got to be energized
by it. Coach O'Connell's got to be energized by it.
The team's got to be energized by it. I know,
the fans are I live in Minnesota during the summer.
I just returned to Columbus this week, and the fans,
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you know, obviously when the injury to the draft choice
went down, what now they're excited about it because they
thought they were going to be a pretty good team
and they see that, hey, maybe Sam Darnold can be.
So everybody's going to be energized by this, and it's
going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
To watch awesome stuff. Coach, I really appreciate X tax
shoulder pads.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know a lot of kids have already started football,
but why should they go out and get the X
Tech pads.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Absolutely, this is the next level of protection for our kids.
All the pros are using it. All you have to
do is go to x techpads dot com. Parents, go
and look at the pad versus what your kids are
wearing right now. It's a slam dunk one hundred percent
American made, can get to you and made and delivered
in a business day. All you have to is touch it,
feel it, look at the pad. It's a superior pad.
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That's why all the pros are in it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You're the best, coach. Thanks so much for joining us.
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
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Speaker 2 (30:36):
With the Press. The Press, Dann what he got?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Well, Doug, we have this from earlier in the show,
and you tried to figure out the Arkansas shirt?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
We almost always were was it we always almost? Oh
my almost? Amost always always almost win?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
We almost we always almost always no hold on we
Arkansas football. We always almost win something like that.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Oh it was great, It's awful, but I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It's so painful, won't.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
That's what I reminded me of. Yes, we almost always
almost win. There it is, Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's so good, so good. Yes, but I butchered. I
butchered it and that's.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
It's nothing wrong with that. On the spot, it's stuff
to come up with.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
This.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
This is what I felt.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
We can't get fooled again.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Uh, whenever I start to mess up, I go just
to the default of can't get fooled again? Which has happened?
That has happened. All right, On to other news, and
the big news of the hour is that the Dolphins
are placing to a tongue of Iloa on injured reserve.
He will miss their next four games. There is a
bye in between this four game stretch, so they'll miss games,
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or he'll miss games at Seattle home against Tennessee, at
New England, then a bye, than at Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Do we really think he's playing the rest of the season.
I mean that, damn you think.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I think there could be a chance. This shouldn't be surprising,
but this is the next step in all of this.
But I do think that there could be a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I think he wants to. Yeah, I think he wants to.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And I think there's a lot of people that will
sit there and go, look, I know it looks bad
and he's had three concussions, but I hope people understand
that these guys that are suffering through all these post
careers up they had like thirty concussions, you know, just
they reporting back then and they weren't as obvious, and
they happened in practice as well, and they happened growing
up as a kid. It doesn't mean, you know, here's
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the thing. If you want to play, you will be
able to find a doctor who will clear you to play.
If you want to play. And I think he wants
to play. I think it play. I just don't think
it'll be anytime soon.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Four games minimum for Tua to be out Steelers, said
coach Mike Tomlin had this to say when announcing that
Justin Fields would likely be his starter in Week three
against the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
But as I sit here today, he is not scheduled
to be a full participant tomorrow in practice, and so
we're ready in ourselves around Justin and we'll stay in
that mindset until something else happens. Hypotheticals is a waste
of our time.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Now, that should be a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It should be a T shirt. Play that one more time. Okay,
that's really really good.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Starts talking about Russ and then obviously transitions Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
The resting here today, he is not scheduled to be
a full participant tomorrow, and so we're ready in ourselves
around Justin, and we'll stay in that mindset until something
else happens. Hypotheticals is a waste of our time.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Hypothetical is a waste of our time. That's a good
T shirt. So is I want volunteers not prisoners.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Right, that's a big mon a. That's a big guest
by Tom the one.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
All right, big news today for US golf fans, and honestly,
I think it's sports fans. Augusta National Golf Club has
announced an expansion of their broadcast windows for the twenty
twenty five Masters. There will be an extra hour on
CBS on Saturday of the third round, so that will
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start at two o'clock Eastern time, and it previously previously
started at three o'clock Eastern time. The Sunday final round
started at two o'clock Eastern time. But in addition to this,
Doug and this is again streaming in the whole deal now,
in additional two hours of coverage will start prior to
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network coverage on Saturday day and Sunday on Paramount Plus,
So noon Eastern time will give you two hours of
the Masters. None of the leaders aren't going to be
out there at that time, maybe maybe just barely on Saturday,
but that extra hour allows on CBS, allows some of
the leaders to be in that CBS window. But now
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you can watch on Paramount Plus for two hours before
CBS is coverage even starts.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Now, did any guys have Direct TV because DirecTV used
to have a deal where you could turn on and
you could watch those holes be no announcers, but you
could watch those holes all weekend long, which is like
what this is. Paramount Plus is owned by CBS, so
this is the you know, it's all the same kind
of family, right.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, well, yes, yes, it's the same family. But what
has been done is they've expanded their coverage as of
late to the fourth, fifth, and sixth holes. They've had
coverage of Amen Corner. They've also had fifteen and sixteen.
These are all announcer manned now like they have been
for the past few years, and you have a featured
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group or two that you can follow. Those were always
going on on the streaming aspect of it. But this
is going to be a full broadcast. I don't know
if it's going to be jim NANTZ for the whole time.
Maybe they'll have someone else in there, Maybe Andrew Catillan
will handle some of the hours on the streaming portion
of it. Maybe it'll be ESPN, who you know, has
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taken over the par three contest. I'm not sure exactly
how it's going to work, but that will be actual
coverage and not just selected coverage that you would usually
get via Masters dot Com.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
That's it's interesting, and it does feel like, you know,
for so long they held tight to there, this is
what we do.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
We're Augusta.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
There's so much money be made, but they've always been
about we're doing it our way. It will be interesting
to see if is there a time in which the
Masters becomes completely commercialized, which you know, I don't think
anybody would like.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Commercial breaks will remain at Forma and it's parer. The
club also announced today, and this from ESPN not a
story out of nowhere, but they examined the possibility of
expansion in the NBA and it was brought up that
the league is likely to expand in the twenty twenty
seven twenty twenty eight season if it does expand by
two teams, and one of the tidbits in there was
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that if the NBA does expand back to Seattle, the
Sonics will get their name and history return to the organization.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I don't know. I guess that's I thought that was expected.
I don't know if that was surprised.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I think people for it might maybe forgot, but that
was part of the agreement when they moved.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Anyway, Yes, so Vegas and Seattle, that's what everybody expects.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
That's what Yes, that is the uh, that's the thought.
But I don't know. Vegas gets everything like I think
you could.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I don't think Vegas needs an NBA team.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
You know, they get all the other NBA stuff, and
it's better as a destination city than if you have
baseball football and then NBA basketball. But they have shown
the ability support the Raiders and the hockey team as well.
We'll see on baseball. But it's always been a basketball
but more of a Laker town than.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
A basketball town.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah, and that's the press bag.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
That was the press tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Maybe we should do a pot in the on Diddy
getting arrested.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Like I don't know. I mean, I guess some saw
that coming up. You know, you go back last month,
you can see it coming, But you go back ten
years ago and.
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Let's take a little break for a second from NFL
talk from the Eagles, which I'm just I don't. I
don't like the Eagles. I don't like anything about them.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I respect when they're good in football, but I just
not a it's fun, it's it's enjoyable to watch the
Eagles lose, especially at home, really enjoyable watch the Cowboys
lose as well. So it's a good weekend. Everybody else
had a good weekend if you include the app absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
A hundred euros.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sich is the new asy athletic director at Arkansas, and
Arkansas obviously Sam h Sam Pittman's their head coach coaching football.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I saw a great T shirt. We almost always Uh
were we? What is it?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We always almost we almost always almost always always almost win? Yeah,
we almost we always almost always no hold on start,
let's start, let's start again. We Arkansas football.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We always.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Almost win something like that anyway. And then of course
in basketball they hired John cal Perry, and I think
the guy's name is John Tyson, the guy from Tyson Foods.
That's Tyson Chicken, right, that's right there. In Arkansas has.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Donated huge money.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And previous when they had Eric Musselman, the story was
that while other people would donate money to NIL, the
Tyson Foods guy would only donate to the school, not
to NIL. And those are two separate things. Because so
many in industry don't want, they don't believe in donating.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Strictly straight to the kids. They just don't.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Here's under Eurosis. Who's the ad at Arkansas talking about NIL?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It has been terrible, it's been it's been awful. NIL
the way it was intended, the way it was intended
July first of twenty twenty one, that if a student
athlete had a value to their name, image, or likeness,
and there was a business product or service like one
of these many businesses up here that wanted to use
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a student athlete to market their business productors servis, well
they could receive compensation, valid compensation to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
And that's how this all started.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And our student athletes in their first year did an
incredible job going out and knocking on doors and beating
the bushes, and they generated almost two and a half
million dollars in what I will call was legitimate NIL
agreements that they went out and got on their own.
But in college athletics, we are our own worst enemy,
and we find the loophole.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
To every single rule in the rule book.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And we found a loophole where we created these things
called collectives and collectives or donors pulling their resources together
to pay student athletes. Collectives under the auspice of doing
work charitable work, whether that was tweeting about a charitable
organization or signing autographs or making public appearances. But the
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amounts of money that were getting paid were simply ridiculous
and still our ridiculous and they just continue to be
ridiculous because when business are making decisions, you make good
business decisions. Right, If you're going to hire a student
athlete to market your business, you're going to pay them
market value. Well, collectors aren't paying market value, they're just
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buying teams, and so that figure has grown to a
just a ridiculous number, and athletic directors are charged many
times with going out and raising those dollars to various means.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
And now we've.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Finally gotten their footing at the University of Arkansas in
the NIL world, but we're not where we need to be.
I will tell you, the upper echelon of the SEC
in football is probably spending double of what we're spending
on our football program right now in the NIL space.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
That's reality.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So, I mean, you can blame that on Sam Pittman,
but it's not Sam Pittman's problem. It's his problem, but
it's a money problem, right, because if someone's spending double
of what we're spending, they're going to have a corner.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
On the market.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Stutgttleabs show here on Fox Sports Radio. There is a
lot to it, but what he's saying is exactly right.
And oh yeah, by the way, if you followed me
for a long time, I have been an opponent of nil.
Not because I don't think a guy should be able
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to represent a lot meats or festival foods, or or
the Legacy hotel in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Not because of that,
but because everyone who saw this happening new it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Would be pay for play. And you're you're dishonest with yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You're definitely dishonest with the rest of us, dishonest with
the rest of us if if you think otherwise, and
they're just isn't a reward for doing it quote unquote
(06:03):
the right and traditional way, you know, And it's just
there's so many things that fans don't realize. And this
was a push for a long time for you know,
when people said nil and the NCAA was d'arconian or whatever,
but this is what they were protecting against.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Everybody knew it. Everybody knew it. It's not great, It's
really not not.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
At all because there is zero value in the actual
education which should be provided. Now, some of that is
like we've gotten to the point where kids won't even
take step foot on campus.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Look, it hasn't made it to where it's funny.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
The NCAA their argument before Congress was or before the
judges has.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Been that it would destroy.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Equal opportunity to be successful. And the truth is there
is no real equal opportunity. The best who are most
funded have always been the best. I think what's changed
is that you can win anywhere if you have a
lot of money. If you have a lot of money,
the problem is that the parody has will start to
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and continue to disappear because two conferences have so much
more money than everybody else, so much more money than
everywhere else. And again, I continue to believe that the
way to fix it is that you have to sit
out when you transfer, and you cannot get a check
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until you've actually played a season or played you know,
four games whatever, established some value for yourself at your
current school.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's my belief.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Because you don't really have name image and like as
fresh as maybe Arch Banning. But again he can use
his own private industry or whatever. But the collective the
idea of like Arch Banning, and that's because of he's
the Manning family. That's where you get into a real
kind of gray area. Way, can Arch Banning not make
money because even though he didn't play, he was still
crazy popular?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Sure? Sure. What's interesting is.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Players have to pay taxes on their nil money. And
if you ask most coaches, actually, I'm guessing if you
ask all coaches and you say, do you think any
of your guys have paid attention to the idea they're
gonna have to pay taxes on.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Their money or do they have any of the money
to they have?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Are there great stories of people buying books, buying charitable stuff,
buying stuff for other teammates, although most of the stuff
the other teammates come from the actual sponsor itself, not
from the player.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, there absolutely are, But.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I would also tell you that there's probably in the
sixty to seventy percent variety that money that you give
them that they don't quote unquote need, because you still
get room and board, you still get cost of attendance,
you still get what's called Alston money. And some players
that come from tough backgrounds to get pel grant you know,
part of FAFSA as well, So you'll have guys that,
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regardless of nil, you know, they're pocketing in the five
grand or so a month, maybe a little bit less
than that because the pell is sixty six hundred. The
Ulston money is like seven thousand, but it's basically thirty
five hundred a semester.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Like kind of do the math.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But you get cost of attendance plus your room and
board check, and you're staying at usually the nicest place
either on campus or in town. So in addition to
all that, you're getting your nil money. You don't necessarily
need it as a freshman, and if you're not playing,
you have no name, image and likeness value in my opinion, Buyer,
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you're an Ohio State fan. Everyone knows they've gone out
and spent and spent and spent. Is there any like
this kind of feels icky?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, the the whole thing does I you know, like,
as the you know, the clip was talking about, my
naive mind thought, hey, this will be good for an
offensive lineman to go to the local car dealership and
sign some autographs on a Sunday afternoon and get a
little extra change in his pocket or something. Like that
(10:34):
was me being just completely naive to the whole deal.
And yeah, it's not it's not great. And even today
the state of Georgia, you know, allowing their athletes to
be paid directly, as their governor signed this order which
could put now Georgia at an advantage over other schools.
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And if you're Georgia or Georgia Tech, your other schools
in the SEC or ACC or SEC, you're now at
a disadvantage. And this is all stuff that had never
even mind wildest dreams would would have fasted.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So tell me what the what the Georgia rule is?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So this is so schools in Georgia have now legal
cover to immediately begin paying their athletes directly. This is
according to an executive order signed by Governor Brian Kemp
that prohibits the NCAA or Athletic Conferences from punishing any
university or college in Georgia for offering compensation or compensating
a student athlete for the use such as the student athletes. Nil,
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So what was.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Going to happen next year? They just sped up the process.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, yeah, because for people don't know next year, I
don't know if it's been made official but pretty much
everybody knows they're going to all this is going to
come up to that department. The one thing is, and
I've talked to a lot of people previous to getting
this job, and now that I have this job, the
idea of hiring athletes as employees will not work if
you hear people saying that they don't understand how it
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all works, because remember that puts you in the exact
same pool as the associate athletic director, the assistant soccer coach,
all this other stuff. And there are again every state
constitution is just is it a lot? And in order
to make hires you have to go through an entire
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hiring process. You can make emergency hires, but you can't
make emergency hires for eighty five scholarship players or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They go one hundred scholarship players to go to next year.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
In football, you know, and and you know again part
of for example, University of Wisconsin, say Wisconsin, I have
one assistant coach that I'm going to hire shortly, I've
already hired my staff. I have room for one more.
I have to have a committee approved thorough background case.
They have to have multiple interviews like that just the
process is a lot. So in addition to that, then
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you have you know, benefits packages, then you have all
different sorts of hr things. It's just it won't work.
It will not work. It will not work. And it
also eliminates the tax shelter that athletics benefits under because
now you're basically putting people in the gen pop and
you're paying a decorated music teacher less than you're paying
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an offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That won't work. None of that stuff works anyway. I'm sorry, go.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Ahead, you know the thing that I was going to say,
and I think that your explanation of this is really
good compared to what I'm about to say, because I
think in your sport, just on the surface, I think
NIL has been good for college basketball, where it's allowed
guys to stay in school and not leave and feel
like they needed to get a paycheck, and it has
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allowed the sport to maybe have more recognizable names in
the past. I don't think you're going to get that
in football in Ohio State was in a unique situation
just because you brought them up earlier, where you have
the Michigan thing, but now you also have the now
twenty million dollar nil price tag where a lot of
guys ended up. Yeah, I'll return to school. I'll do that.
You know, there's unfinished business. But if if you weren't
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getting any of that nil money, that business probably would
have been unfinished and they would have went into the
NFL and got their signing bonus and did what they
needed to do. But it has allowed, at least in
that program guys to stay back. But I think college
basketball on the surface has benefited for US fans in
that way. But compared to what you just said, it
just seems like an absolute headache in real world situations.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It is, and it is like, look, the biggest issue
is this, Let's just be honest. The biggest issue is
your pool of donors. And obviously it changes based upon
your school in the size. And we just had this
conversation with my when I went to the Packer Games
with my MATTHI director Josh Burn. It's like, you can't
keep asking the same people for money. You know, I
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have a list of guys. They're just really good people.
They really want to help, and I'm very cautious of
who to ask for what right now, Like I'm my
general way of doing things was we had a little
pool of money. I want to save as much as
I could because I like the players I have and
my goal. I think you build a winning program, especially
at this or maybe even at an a level with
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a high retention rate, high recipitous rate.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Bring them all back.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And but you know, it's like, there's other things we
need in the program. There's more money that is needed.
But I can't keep going to the same people to
ask for money. Hey, you made a donation, then you
bought tickets, you know, then you bought something at you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Know, an auction at our golf tournament.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Then you had something else you already gave money, Like
now we got to ask you for nil. Like at
some point they're just like, dude, you're just what I
love this school, I love what you're doing. But I'm
just I'm good, I'm out. So I do think that
bringing it in with the school does help because then
you can just make one ask and get that money
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and then you got to budget it accordingly. But it
definitely isn't what anybody designed it to do. And there's
a massive disparity between the haves and the have nots,
and it what does it teach me? The only part
I will disagree with you. I agree that in college
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basketball it's helped keep some players around more Zach Eaties
perfect example, Hunter Dickinson back at Kansas. The switching schools
even to get the checks has hurt some of that
name recognition. I think the popularity of women's basketball goes
way way back towards normal this year, and I think
men's basketball takes a jump back up. So but I
(16:52):
think that in college football what it's done. Look at
bo Nick's look at you know all of those quarterbacks
that had been in college football for an extra year,
you know Washington, Oregon, even you know Oklahoma State and
Utah they have two seventh year quarterbacks going out this
weekend and still Water. I actually think it's it's gonna
help that product more and maybe help those players more.
(17:16):
But they're just they're just a ridiculous amount of money
and a disparity between guys. It's not what college foot
sports is about. It's not what an il supposed to
be about. And just throwing money at a problem or
at one player, I don't think that. I don't think
that works long term.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
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Brian Billica joins us in the Doug Gotlieb Show. Of course,
you won the Super Bowl as head coach of Baltimore Ravens,
and he's been analyzing football and been around football for
his entire adult life, and he's kind enough to join
us on behalf of x Tech Shoulder Pads and Coach
I do I do want to start with with shoulder pads.
You know, we've had people talk about helmets, shoulder pads,
increased safety. You, like everybody, we saw what happened with Tua.
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What do you think the likely it is he returns
to be quarterback this year for the Dolphins.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Boy, that's that's a tough one because you're talking about
really an injury, any other injury, you know, the proverbial
high angles frame. You go through a progression of healing up.
When does he be able to get mobility? Do the
doctor sign off of it? And then and then you
have a realistic expectation that it will continue to heal
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barring another hit to it during the course of the season.
Concussion is a totally different breed. This is one that
and it's hard because this has got to be very
much an individual decision by to it. You can't the coaches,
the doctors, all the other stuff because of the long
term ramifications. At some point, you know, his head's going
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to clear off, he's going to feel fine, and he's
going to feel like he can play. But the legitimate
question about the long term effects, and he doesn't have
that perspective of knowing thirty forty years down the line
what kind of effect this is going to have. So
this this is an extremely tough one. But I imagine over
the four weeks it will rectify itself in terms of
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the actually the symptoms. Then he's just going to have
to have the hard face to face conversation in the mirror.
Do I want to continue to take this risk because
of the unique nature of the injury. My guess is
that he will. He is a young man, he's ambition,
he wants to continue to play. He'll feel better. But
this is a tough call.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It definitely is a tough call.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What were your thoughts on how the Eagles handled having
a lead last night?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
You know what, the Eagles are an interesting animal right now.
Let's go back to last year. I mean, there's just
something not right about the Eagles right now. And it's
an extension from last year. You go back to what
were they nine and one, ten and one. I mean,
they looked unbeatable, they looked like a complete team. They
actually and then the next game, I think it was
against the forty nine Ers, they actually took a lead,
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a six nothing lead, and then had absolutely fallen apart.
Since that, the Niners went on and scored i think
versus on every possession. After that, they went on and
won only one of the remaining four or five six games.
And now they've got the talent, they have a confidence
about them, but they just don't seem to be able
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to finish anything. They just don't seem to have any
confidence about what they're doing. This is a strange, strange circumstance.
I don't know that's going to get any better.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I'm fascinated by the Ravens. I don't know how you
lose that game, especially having a lead at home. Offensive
line is not great. It feels like the Derrick Henry.
I don't know if that mix, if it's they haven't
played together enough. But you know, between the offensive line,
Lamar having to run it more, Derrick Henry's not a
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pass catcher out of the backfield just to power back,
and a guy that needs, you know, twenty five thirty
carries to get it going. They're just they're missing on
some stuff early. How fixable are the Ravens problems?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
I think you identifying the offensive line is maybe it's
the core of it. Now let's keep in mind now
they're they're they're a toe touch and another catch from
being two to zero. Same team doing the same thing,
became that close to both games. It was shocking at
home to see the Raiders come back late thirteen points
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against that defense, which is still a really solid defense.
And what's going to be very interesting is the next
three games. I mean, and they're right now, they're a
good team. There's no reason to think that they're not
continuing to be a great, you know, good playoff team.
But they're oh and two and they're now hearing all
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this stuff, all the rhetoric and noise around them. They've
never gone to the playoffs after starting OHO and two,
they've got eleven percent chance oh and two teams do
going to the playoffs. Now this team will kind of
shut that out, but all that noise is going to
continue to go on. And they have a stretch here.
They go on the road to Dallas, a desperate Dallas team,
so both these teams are desperate to win. And then
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they come home against a very good Bills team and
then have to go on the road to Cincinnati. So
this is this is a unique territory. This is a
very good playoff capable Ravens team that could be legit
LEO and five And that's a that's a scary proposition.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Dallas Cowboys, the Saints come in and just molly want them,
molly want them. Was that more about the Saints or
about the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Let's start with the Saints. That that that that was impressive,
and let's go back. Let's look at the Saints over
the last two games. And I know the first game
we gainst. Carolina, but it was a divisional game, so
those those carry a little bit more pressure and weight
with them. What they then offensively is stunning. I mean
they what scored on the first six drives each over
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seventy yards except the last one which is on a
short or the last one of the half, which is
on a short field because of the turnover between the
last two games. They scored on every single possession in
the in the first two halves of their games. Uh,
Derek Carr looks spectacular. They're running the ball. Avan Kamara
is is you know, just maybe the best back that's
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complete back and with the Kubia offense, he is one
of those rare guys and it is rare guys that
truly have a sixth sense about how to run that
zone scheme that has always been so successful going back
to the Shanahan years, Kobeyak and all the success he has.
So this offense of New Orleans is absolutely the real deal.
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And it's fun to watch. Having said that, Dallas have
home getting just you know, they had absolutely no answer
and that and that's hard to face that Mike Zimmer
and that and Mike McCarthy's got to look at that.
I mean, they gave up one hundred and ninety yards
rushing to the Nororleans Saints. They gave up five big
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plays in the passing game. And forget offensively the fact
that they couldn't run the ball and the turn two
two turnovers by Dak because that offense will come back
and be okay. But the defense, boy Ne Orleans as
good as Noorleans is playing that Dallas defense. And now
they're going to face the Ravens team that that that
one two punch of Derrick Henry uh uh and and
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Lamar Jackson pulling it out and get into the outside
a totally different challenge in the stopping this run. But still,
this is this is, this is this is a must
win for both teams.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Bryce Young, It may not be good enough, you may
not be big enough, you may not have the armstring,
But what happened Sunday wasn't about that. Like he he
can't complete basic throws, like he's he's kind of a
mess right now. And I would say, again, this is outsider,
but also kind of coach to coach. It looks like
a guy who's lost his confidence. Is there a way
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to fix that in season?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Well, it's tough. It's yeah, win and go out and
play well. But the things that tended to it and
the reason he's not looking good, are those going to change? Uh?
And then more importantly, now you look what does the
team think? What do they see? And do you stay
with this where now the team's questioning. You know, you
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want to be supportive and hey, we're going to help
you through this this tough time. But but you also
you got to win, and so it typically does it turnaround? No,
But that's a tough that's a tough call when you
make those kind of changes.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm with you, It's just it's a really hard one.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And then and then you factor in he might not
even if he has his confidence back, which is a
long rebuilding process, he still might not be there. You know,
your last year in Minnesota, when you went to the
NFC Championship game, you guys had the best best offense
the world ever seen.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Right, it was Randall.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Cunningham, like reinvigorating Randall Cunningham. And I'm just wondering, I
understand it's a different era or whatever we're watching Sam
Darnold similarly with the Vikings. He's had opportunities with the Jets,
with the Panthers, as a backup with the Niners, and
now it does feel like, again we're talking small sample size,
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only two games, but kind of hitting his stride. What's
that like to be a part of a guy who
has the talent and has had people believe in him
and then later in his career kind of starts to
figure it out. When put again, like your Vikings team
with some super talented skill position players.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Yeah, it is exciting. I'd equated more to maybe Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Taken in Mia in Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
Expectations goes obviously to Tennessee and things just kind of
click for him. And Sam Donald did look very comfortable
against a good Remember the forty nine defense in particular
in the forty nineteen is pretty darn good. And and
and the fact that brought pretty on the other side
was looking pretty good and was moving the ball, notwithstanding
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in one interception. They had a number of big plays,
but Sam Donald he looked That's the main thing. He
looked comfortable and had the running game going, and he
spread the ball around and he had his share of
the big plays down the field. So yeah, this could
This could be fun. And it's always great to see
when someone is able to re establish themselves. I mean
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they were seven of twelve on third down. That tells
you how comfortable he was in doing what he was doing.
And so yeah, anytime you can see someone remake themselves,
get an opportunity to show that he is capable. Now,
can you sustain it? You know, obviously Minnesota bit of
surprise that they're doing what they're doing right now, but
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playing very very well. So yeah, that's the that's the
key for Sam Darnold. Now can you sustain this over
the entire season. But they he's got to be energized
by it. Coach O'Connell's got to be energized by it.
The team's got to be energized by it. I know,
the fans are I live in Minnesota during the summer.
I just returned to Columbus this week, and the fans,
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you know, obviously when the injury to the draft choice
went down, what now they're excited about it because they
thought they were going to be a pretty good team
and they see that, hey, maybe Sam Darnold can be.
So everybody's going to be energized by this, and it's
going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
To watch awesome stuff. Coach, I really appreciate X tax
shoulder pads.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know a lot of kids have already started football,
but why should they go out and get the X
Tech pads.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Absolutely, this is the next level of protection for our kids.
All the pros are using it. All you have to
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in a business day. All you have to is touch it,
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That's why all the pros are in it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You're the best, coach. Thanks so much for joining us.
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
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Speaker 3 (30:01):
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Speaker 2 (30:36):
With the Press. The Press, Dann what he got?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Well, Doug, we have this from earlier in the show,
and you tried to figure out the Arkansas shirt?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
We almost always were was it we always almost? Oh
my almost? Amost always always almost win?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
We almost we always almost always no hold on we
Arkansas football. We always almost win something like that.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Oh it was great, It's awful, but I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It's so painful, won't.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
That's what I reminded me of. Yes, we almost always
almost win. There it is, Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's so good, so good. Yes, but I butchered. I
butchered it and that's.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
It's nothing wrong with that. On the spot, it's stuff
to come up with.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
This.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
This is what I felt.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
We can't get fooled again.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Uh, whenever I start to mess up, I go just
to the default of can't get fooled again? Which has happened?
That has happened. All right, On to other news, and
the big news of the hour is that the Dolphins
are placing to a tongue of Iloa on injured reserve.
He will miss their next four games. There is a
bye in between this four game stretch, so they'll miss games,
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or he'll miss games at Seattle home against Tennessee, at
New England, then a bye, than at Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Do we really think he's playing the rest of the season.
I mean that, damn you think.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I think there could be a chance. This shouldn't be surprising,
but this is the next step in all of this.
But I do think that there could be a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I think he wants to. Yeah, I think he wants to.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And I think there's a lot of people that will
sit there and go, look, I know it looks bad
and he's had three concussions, but I hope people understand
that these guys that are suffering through all these post
careers up they had like thirty concussions, you know, just
they reporting back then and they weren't as obvious, and
they happened in practice as well, and they happened growing
up as a kid. It doesn't mean, you know, here's
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the thing. If you want to play, you will be
able to find a doctor who will clear you to play.
If you want to play. And I think he wants
to play. I think it play. I just don't think
it'll be anytime soon.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Four games minimum for Tua to be out Steelers, said
coach Mike Tomlin had this to say when announcing that
Justin Fields would likely be his starter in Week three
against the Chargers.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
But as I sit here today, he is not scheduled
to be a full participant tomorrow in practice, and so
we're ready in ourselves around Justin and we'll stay in
that mindset until something else happens. Hypotheticals is a waste
of our time.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Now, that should be a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
It should be a T shirt. Play that one more time. Okay,
that's really really good.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Starts talking about Russ and then obviously transitions Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
The resting here today, he is not scheduled to be
a full participant tomorrow, and so we're ready in ourselves
around Justin, and we'll stay in that mindset until something
else happens. Hypotheticals is a waste of our time.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Hypothetical is a waste of our time. That's a good
T shirt. So is I want volunteers not prisoners.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Right, that's a big mon a. That's a big guest
by Tom the one.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
All right, big news today for US golf fans, and honestly,
I think it's sports fans. Augusta National Golf Club has
announced an expansion of their broadcast windows for the twenty
twenty five Masters. There will be an extra hour on
CBS on Saturday of the third round, so that will
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start at two o'clock Eastern time, and it previously previously
started at three o'clock Eastern time. The Sunday final round
started at two o'clock Eastern time. But in addition to this,
Doug and this is again streaming in the whole deal now,
in additional two hours of coverage will start prior to
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network coverage on Saturday day and Sunday on Paramount Plus,
So noon Eastern time will give you two hours of
the Masters. None of the leaders aren't going to be
out there at that time, maybe maybe just barely on Saturday,
but that extra hour allows on CBS, allows some of
the leaders to be in that CBS window. But now
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you can watch on Paramount Plus for two hours before
CBS is coverage even starts.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Now, did any guys have Direct TV because DirecTV used
to have a deal where you could turn on and
you could watch those holes be no announcers, but you
could watch those holes all weekend long, which is like
what this is. Paramount Plus is owned by CBS, so
this is the you know, it's all the same kind
of family, right.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, well, yes, yes, it's the same family. But what
has been done is they've expanded their coverage as of
late to the fourth, fifth, and sixth holes. They've had
coverage of Amen Corner. They've also had fifteen and sixteen.
These are all announcer manned now like they have been
for the past few years, and you have a featured
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group or two that you can follow. Those were always
going on on the streaming aspect of it. But this
is going to be a full broadcast. I don't know
if it's going to be jim NANTZ for the whole time.
Maybe they'll have someone else in there, Maybe Andrew Catillan
will handle some of the hours on the streaming portion
of it. Maybe it'll be ESPN, who you know, has
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taken over the par three contest. I'm not sure exactly
how it's going to work, but that will be actual
coverage and not just selected coverage that you would usually
get via Masters dot Com.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
That's it's interesting, and it does feel like, you know,
for so long they held tight to there, this is
what we do.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
We're Augusta.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
There's so much money be made, but they've always been
about we're doing it our way. It will be interesting
to see if is there a time in which the
Masters becomes completely commercialized, which you know, I don't think
anybody would like.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Commercial breaks will remain at Forma and it's parer. The
club also announced today, and this from ESPN not a
story out of nowhere, but they examined the possibility of
expansion in the NBA and it was brought up that
the league is likely to expand in the twenty twenty
seven twenty twenty eight season if it does expand by
two teams, and one of the tidbits in there was
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that if the NBA does expand back to Seattle, the
Sonics will get their name and history return to the organization.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I don't know. I guess that's I thought that was expected.
I don't know if that was surprised.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I think people for it might maybe forgot, but that
was part of the agreement when they moved.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Anyway, Yes, so Vegas and Seattle, that's what everybody expects.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
That's what Yes, that is the uh, that's the thought.
But I don't know. Vegas gets everything like I think
you could.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I don't think Vegas needs an NBA team.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
You know, they get all the other NBA stuff, and
it's better as a destination city than if you have
baseball football and then NBA basketball. But they have shown
the ability support the Raiders and the hockey team as well.
We'll see on baseball. But it's always been a basketball
but more of a Laker town than.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
A basketball town.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah, and that's the press bag.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
That was the press tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Maybe we should do a pot in the on Diddy
getting arrested.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Like I don't know. I mean, I guess some saw
that coming up. You know, you go back last month,
you can see it coming, But you go back ten
years ago and.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Say that what happened. I don't know. Download the podcast.
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