September 20, 2024 • 38 mins
Dan and Monse in for Doug as they discuss the Jets' win over the Patriots on Thursday night and the dynamic between Aaron Rodgers and Robert Saleh. Dan and Monse give their main takeaways from Shohei Ohtani's 50/50 achievement. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Dan and Monse through a game of "I Got Dibbs".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, everybody, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, It's Friday. I
went to a Jets game fourteen years ago and the
person I wanted to see was Fireman Ed. I have, like,
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this was before video cameras were on phone, so I
brought my own digital camera. I had like six videos
of Fireman Ed from my seat, just of him leading
the charges of the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
How clear was the image? I want to know more
about this camera. Did it have the little flip screen?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Nor?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was just a pocket one. Yeah, that's all it was.
But I constantly just kept on like any time I
thought he would do is I And by the way,
I was so many sections, yeah, so far away. Then
when I would zoom in, like it would just be
glory pixels.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:35):
And nothing has changed, Bonci because the expectations for a
New York Jets quarterback in twenty ten were the same
as they are in twenty twenty four. Actually I think
it was twenty eleven when I went. But still the
point being is the expectations and I at first have
my arm high, it's going lower and lower and lower
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and lower. And I know last night's game on Amazon
to start Week three wasn't one of those headline grabbers.
We're still talking about Otani, which we will in twenty
minutes or so, But there actually is a bigger reason
why last night was a big deal. And the bigger
reason is this, you gotta give the New York Jets
fans some grace. Last night was a big, big night
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for them. And the reason it's a big, big night
is because this franchise has been riddled with poor quarterback
play for I would say almost fifty years. But there
are people who are like Joe Navid's not a Hall
of Famer. He's throwing more interceptions than he has touchdowns.
How the heck is he a Hall of Famer? So
you can even go plus fifty years when talking about
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the New York Jets and last night when they see
Aaron Rodgers throwing the football around the yard like he
did almost three hundred yards, almost a magnificent perfect night,
aside from one instance on the sideline and about sixteen
yards short of a three hundred yard game. It was
a script that New York Jets fans have been craving for,
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not for the season, not since Rogers went down with
his achilles tendon, but basically forever. That's why last night
was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
But you know, I don't necessarily agree that the bar
is low. Are you saying that the bar is low
for Jets fans, because for football fans, I wouldn't say that.
I feel the way that Aaron Rodgers is looked at, scrutinized,
criticized left and right. And also let's talk about let's
not forget to mention last year going down what four
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snaps in and I feel like there was actually a
lot of pressure going into this season and so I
don't know if I necessararily agree with you unless you're
talking about Jets fans. For Jets fans, the bar is
low just because of how terrible their history has been
with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Do you think Jets fans were excited last night?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't know many Jets fans, but I'm gonna say yes,
I think they were as well.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Right, Ian Roddy, as a producer and editor here at
Fox Sports Radio, Yes, Ian was excited.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Jason Smith, Jason Smith was exciting most of the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon week nights on Fox Sports Radio.
He was excited. The Jets fans that I saw on
Twitter last night were excited or on X excuse me,
but to you and me as non Jets fans, it
was a twenty four to three blowout game that never
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was really close.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
But it's everything within that game that is the reason
why it's a bigger deal. It's Rogers not tearing his
achilles on the fourth play from scrimmage in front of
the home fans last night. It's not having your best
seasons in the last fifteen years. Be Mark Sanchez handing
the football off to Sean Green. It's not that any
Testaverdi was like fifty two years old when he was
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leading the Jets in the mid nineties. I may be exaggerating,
but that's what it was at that time. No disrespect
of any Testaverdi, who completely turned his career around and
is one heck of an NFL quarterback. But this is
Aaron Rodgers. And even though Aaron Rodgers is forty, last
night he looked anything butt forty. And this is why
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it's a bigger deal is because it's not just twenty
four to three. And why did Gerrod Mayo put Drake
may in at the end of the game. That's trying
to find something that happened last night. Everything that happened
last night is reading between the lines, and we'll read
between the lines of what happened with Robert solid Aaron Rodgers,
because that's a big part of this. But when you
think of the Jets, you're right. I picked the Jets
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to win the division, so a win last night shouldn't
have any effect on that. But this team has never
really had hope. They've had good teams. They've hoped to
beat Tom Brady, they've hoped to have that upset, but
they've never had it at the most important position, where
now they actually have someone there that can win a
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game on their own or make it look effortless like
Aaron Rodgers did likelast night. You know, I'm not a
huge Rogers fan, but I do appreciate his craft. There
are people who call him the greatest of all time
because of how he's played the position. Even Drake May
got into some heat last night because he said I'm
waiting for the goat. Then Mike Garafalo had to clear
up his tweet and why Drake May was saying goat
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and the whole deal. Whatever the case is, this franchise
has been miserable for so long and finally, in a
shining light, they have their quarterbacks. And it may only
be a year, may only be two years, who knows
what it is. But that's why last night was a
big deal for New York Jets fans. That's why just
winning a regular season game in September over the Patriots
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your arrival for the last twenty years, I mean, hacking
have been since twenty fifteen, since I think the stat
was since they had beaten the Patriots at home. I
believe that the stat was, But so you have all
of that come down to last night, Jets overmanned the Patriots.
That's how we see it. Completely different story with the
Jets fans, sure.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It might be and beyond. To me, as a non
Jets fan, I looked at that game and I was
just like, Okay, here's the Jets defense that I was
expecting to see weeks one and two, because that was
one of the big things with why I thought the
Jets would be successful. I don't know if I had
them winning the division, but I did pick them to
go into the playoffs because I thought their defense kept
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them afloat last year with Zach Wilson. Aaron Rodgers has
to be the difference maker to get them those three
more wins to get into the playoffs. So I hear
everything you're saying. You're right a big deal because Aaron
Rodgers did look very comfortable out there. But to me,
the defense showing up was actually also a really big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think the Patriots played a role in that they're
extremely limited, but it's a defense that lost Remaine Johnson
last week, didn't have CJ. Moseley last night, and obviously
we know about is Son Reddick. All of that is
not good for the Jets. But guess what, all of
that did not matter because they have their quarterback. It
would have mattered if it was Zack Wilson. It would
have mattered. If it was Mark Sanchez, it would have mattered.
If it was Ken O'Brien. It would have mattered, if
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it was Richard Todd, it would have mattered if it
was Joe Namath. Like, you can go on Bloomersias and
keep on naming Jet Chad Penning the whole deal. Let's
just keep on going naming Jets quarterbacks. Those things wouldn't
have mattered last night. It didn't matter. What also mattered
was Aaron Rodgers giving a death stare to his head coach,
which is another between the lines headline from last night
that we just can't seem to get away. So as
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much as I want to praise Aaron Rodgers, we now
have the death stare scene for Miles.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Away, I'm just like, why, Aaron, Why you already know
what people think of you, so why give them more, ammo?
Because there's no there's nothing you could say after that
incident that the camera caught, and I was like, man,
did you see that I rewinded it and I was like,
let's look at it again, me and my friend. I
was like, I should you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Tape it on a VCR videotape? Is that? No?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
No? Luckily I can rewind. So I did rewind and
we watched it again. I was like, look at it
and thank you. I was like, look at him. He
likes stops them hard and gives him a gives him
a look like I don't like you, get off of me.
Obviously that's not what they sent after, but I just
was like, Aaron, this is week three. You can't pretend.
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For a hot second, you can't pretend.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Aaron Rodgers gave an explanation on why he gave Robert
Sala death stare during last day. So is after the
second touchdown? Correct? Was that after the second touchdown to
go up thirteen to three with the extra point coming up?
This is Aaron Rodgers' explanation.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
He's not a big hugger usually, so I don't know
he was going for the hug. He likes to do
the two hand chest push as well, but he talks
a lot about two score leads, so I just kind
of gave him a push and said two score lead.
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They were okay, it was fourteen, it was fourteen to nothing,
that fourteen to three. They went fourteen to nothing at
that point, and the two score lead. I don't know
necessarily what he is to talking about at that point. Yeah,
I don't know if you should not get excited from
a two score lead, but at that point Aaron Rodgers,
who I don't think realized he was being recorded.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
But okay, come on, man, you have to assume Aaron
Rodgers has to assume the camera is on him twenty
four to seven.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't think he did, because that's why I think
he stared him down. I think that is that's the
underlying portion of this. Plus Sala just seems like such
an alpha male. Yeah, and to see Rogers almost put
him in his place with that stare resonated so much more.
Of course, I mean if to have Sala be so excited,
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which says one thing considering all that he has been through,
and then it shows how many eggs of his are
in Aaron rodgers basket, and Aaron Rodgers still won't let
him have that moment. There wasn't even a smirk from
Aaron Rodgers. After that, I compared it to the Kobe
Bryant We're up two oh, job is not done. Is
that what Aaron Rodgers wanted to say, or was that
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his point or did he want to send a message
to Robert Sala saying like, look, man, this is still
my show. I'm running it. You need to chill out.
We haven't done anything. Get out of my face. That's
the sense that I got from.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That look and the way you just said all that
was better than how he handled it. Just the way
it was executed on his end, it looked so terrible.
Whether it is him saying this is still my team,
you need to chill out, whether it's insane, don't get excited.
We haven't won yet. There's still plenty of game to go.
Whatever the intention was, all it did though, was shine
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a light on the type of guy that Aaron Rodgers
comes off to the rest of us. Because I don't
know him personally, I can just make assumptions based on
what he says, how he acts, and all of that
just like added to that where I'm like, bro, like
you do not seem like a fun guy to have
a cocktail with. Let me tell you that you do
not seem like somebody that I want to be friends with,
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And I don't want my quarter and my coach to
have that type of relationship that looked toxic.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
There's nothing worse than not knowing your boundary, right, Yeah,
like there's something, there's something, yes that where like Sala
thought you were good and then you weren't. It's like
giving do you give someone a hug in a social
setting and then they extend a handshake and then you're like, Okay,
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what do I do? That's awkward enough When you know
each other and are on the same team and you
can't even get it correct, that's a bigger problem.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, it almost like would have been better if he
just would have walked away from him. Yeah, but he
like stopped him hard, like, like you said, exerted his
like Elphinis over Sala's alphinus.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
This is Robert Sala explaining his side of the Botch hug.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Part of the things that we've been talking about is
to just get the defensive two score ly, and those
two scorely, So I guess you just wanted to see
something on defense.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So it just reminded me that you got two score me.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I mean, it's interesting that they both mentioned something about
a two score lead. So I'm like, all right, which
PR person handled this on the sideline? Was like, listen,
you're both gonna say something about this when they ask
you about it, because you are literally on everyone's TV screen.
Everyone has positive and they're talking about this moment that
was a total PR move.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Did your family ever take take a vacation and go
to a hotel with a pool, like a swimming pool?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Not that really I can remember. We didn't take a
lot of vcage, Okayn.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Like, I'm not talking about Disney, and I'm just like, yeah,
out of town, you go to a hotel it has
a pool, and as a kid, you loved it. That
was one of my things of going to a hotel
with a pool. There weren't a lot of hotels with
pools where I grew up. Iowa, Sam, You're with me
on that absolutely big deal. Parents say, hey, you can
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swim tomorrow. Well, my mom says, guess what, you can
go swimming at the hotel pool tomorrow. Well the pool
opens at six am, so at five point fifty nine
you're ready to go. Not necessarily what your mom or
your parents were talking about when they said you could
swim tomorrow. Two score lead in the fourth quarter, completely
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different story than two score lead midway through the second
quarter of your first home game of the year. So
there's that aspect of it as well. So if Sala
is preaching hey to score lead, to score lead, and
Rogers comes off the field in the second quarter giving
him a two score lead, the job isn't done yet.
That's where I think Rogers is saying, like there's a
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miscommunication on what to score lead is, just like there's
a miscommunication on well, I thought we were going swimming today.
The pool opens at six am. Yet you'll go swimming
at five pm a little bit later on. We are
not going right now. That's the disconnect that I feel
that Rogers and Sala had of all right to score lead.
Roger's like, well, big deal, two scored lead in the
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second quarter. He that those evaporate all the time. Two
scored lead in the fourth quarter is a bigger deal
because it makes the other team one dimensional. That's how
I'm trying to solve this, That's how I'm trying to
think of. They're not even on the same page when
they're trying to send a message about what a two
score lead is this is just Rogers being a jerk,
like even in a great moment. That's probably the biggest takeaways.
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They praised Rogers at the start, the real takeaway is
that Rogers just had an opportunity where he felt like
he could be a jerk and he took advantage.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Of it full fully took advantage of it. And here's
the thing is that I think I don't believe that
that's really why he handled Sola like that because he
didn't think the job was done. It looked like he
just genuinely doesn't like the guy. And that's what he
said in the moment because he just, you know, didn't
want to say something worse than what he did. But
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I really feel like it was it was more than that.
That was just what came out of his mouth in
the moment as to why he stopped the coach with.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's easy to think that the rest of the team
would have gotten a weird message if they would have
had a hug good.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What do you mean that the team would have thought
it was weird if they hugged?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, Like, does Aaron Rodgers send the message to the Jets?
I hugged Robert Sala on the second quarter, So we've
accomplished a lot. I keep going back to the Kobe
two zero things because I do think that that's Aaron Rodgers'
scapegoat and all of this job's not finished. Job is
not done. If you're the New York Jets who have
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laid out the misery of that franchise earlier, are you
really going to take a victory lap up fourteen to
nothing on the Patriots in the second quarter of Week three?
Doesn't that send a bad message to the rest of
the team. If Rogers is getting to that point again,
I can understand it a heck of a lot more,
but I'm trying to give him as many outs as
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I can.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, No, I hear what you're saying, and you're right.
There may be a little bit to that. You're probably right.
It still was handled properly. Even if that is the
underlying feeling. You still came off like a total jerk.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So what should he have done? Hugged him? No, give
him the smirk at the end album.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Maybe a smirk. It's just the way he stopped him.
Come on the double fist, because he didn't just put
his hand like softly on him and been like, yo,
we're not done, because that's all you know what I mean?
Like that, really you could have done all of that,
but your hand open, not both fists stopping him. And
it looked like Sla even pushed like there was you know,
pressure from both sides. All of that just looked like
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there was tension. So easily he could have stopped him
and said, job's not done. Done a wink. He loves
to wink. We've seen him do it done a little
whatever smirk and then ran onto the field.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I don't think he knew that the camera was on.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
How does That's one another thing I can't get on.
I can't get with you on.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That one because I don't I think that he wanted
Robert Sala to know that I'm not playing this game
like it's a mind game with everyone. I don't think
you everybody else to know about it. Do you guys
think he was recorded? Sam Jason, do you think that
he knew that he was on camera?
Speaker 8 (18:07):
You should expect to you should expect to be surveiled
at all times, whether you're in a stadium, you're on TV,
you're playing, you're walking down the street. Their cameras everywhere,
so somebody probably got the reaction, just assume.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Because it wasn't it was a camera from the sideline
that caught him do that. So it wasn't like it
was a game camera or something like that that would
be able to see. I understand that there are cameras everywhere.
I just I think that his message was to tell
Robert Sala to put him in his place, that this
is my team, this is my deal.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
So right after a touchdown though, too, So it's like
they always get those.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Reactions, right, like, how do you not anticipate one camera
on you pretty much the entire game, especially after a touchdown.
We did have somebody respond to us. Assad Lyndon is
the name and says, Aaron Rodgers owns Robert Sala.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Can I just can I just say something. I think
Robert sala is really I'm sorry. I think Robert saw
is really desperate to win and he wants to get them.
He knows he's a few years behind with the Jets
just because of you know, injuries and last year and
just just a whole bunch of things, just getting having
the team stall out. I think he's a good coach
and he's like, we should be a winning franchise. We
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should be a winning organization. And Rogers is just like,
I've won a Super Bowl, I've won four MVPs, I've
gotten to the playoffs like almost every year I've been a quarterback.
Give me just give it more time, don't get too ahead.
A few weeks from now, let's say week nine, week ten,
and they have a great record. All of this stuff,
this awkwardness is gonna be like a castle in the sand.
It's going to wash it away by the tide.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So you agree with the Kobe up to oh, like
Kobe not satisfied, You agree right.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Like Rodgers is like, we're not there yet, We're only
two and one.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'm trying to give Rogers the benefit of that. I
like that. I think to the point of him giving
a smirk to Sala could have helped the situation because yeah, yes, yeah,
but in trying to give him the benefit of the doubt,
I think that's what Rogers would say he was doing.
And also in reality, it is just a jerk.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Right And to add to what Sam is saying, it's like,
I think it was a nice moment that Robert Sala
felt happy right there, Like it's been such a rough
time for Robert Sala too. He's been having to defend
the Jets for so long, and so I it's like
he was. He seemed genuinely excited in that moment, and
then Aaron Rodgers was.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Like, nope, yeah, it hasn't been a picnic for him either. Yeah,
like you know, so he's got more to lose as well.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah. It just doesn't make Aaron Rodgers look good in
any way, shape or form, even if it's the Mamba
mentality and where job's not done, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
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Speaker 2 (20:54):
Doug gollib Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Fire, She's
Manzie Belanos. Did I give you guys the Aaron Rodgers
look prior to the show. I hope I didn't. I
know it was a little tense in here.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You gave a look. You gave a look, which is
why I asked you. What did I ask you? I remember,
it's like it looks like you want to punch everybody.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I didn't want to punch everybody. That's what I
said no, I didn't want to punch everybody. But I
then explained myself to you guys and what got under
my skin. And I hope it's cleared the air, because
I don't know if Aaron Rodgers and Robert Salav cleared
the air.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
She is Monty Belania. So I'm Dan Byer. We are
in for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. Isaac
Lohenkron's got an update for us in sixty seconds. I
want to say one other thing about this Aaron Rodgers stuff, Jez.
Both Jason and I read his book. I listened to it.
Did you read her you audiobook did as well, right, Jason.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I prefer to call it a hybrid. I read it
and listened to it.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But people who think it's really snooty and stuck up
to read things, they don't buy me reading and listening.
So I just say I listened to it. So yes.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
A theme in this book was Aaron Rodgers putting people
on this island where he doesn't have communication anymore. Right, Yes,
doesn't talk to family friends. He's done this other people.
It felt like Robert Salah was being sent to the
Island last night. That's what it felt like. Yeah, I
think that's the perfect way to kind of sum up.
No matter what both of them say, their explanation about
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the two scores doesn't even make sense. I just think
Aaron Rodgers could probably save himself to try to sound
like the ultimate competitor instead of sounding like the ultimate jerk. Yes,
or looking like the ultimate jerk.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
My last question here, is he the guy reading to
you his book? And is it his voice?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
No, it's actually not even Ian O'Connor. It's someone else
who gets so many names wrong. It's amazing like common
names as well. Yes, it's it, really, it's it's crazy.
It's you know, Brett Favre. No, it wasn't It wasn't
that bad. It wasn't that bad. But it was along
those lines, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Was that Today's impressive?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Just a footnote Because of time, I had to cut
it up. I had to edit the context. Monty was
not as confused as that made it seem back to you.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
No, that was funny. I liked it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
There is also some other mancy audio that we may
get to at some point during this show. Yeah, you
gitter up at Manti Blanya's find me at Dan Byron Flott.
You can find Isaac Loankron at Isaac Lohenkron. I haven't
seen people this excited for a fifty to fifty since
a fifty to fifty raffle got over five hundred K. Like,
this is crazy. We are twenty one hours removed from
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sho hey Otani reaching the fifty to fifty mark in
a game where he hit fourteen home runs, knocked in
forty two runs, and scored eighteen times. I think that's
what it was last night in Miami against the Marlins
twenty to four victory, but the numbers were talking about
our fifty to fifty. You hate people like me who say, boy,
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if the Dodgers don't do anything of the postseason, this
is gonna mean nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I just was like, can we like have a moment.
Can we have twenty four hours to celebrate this before
we already start talking about the playoffs and the history
that seems to repeat itself the last couple of years
when it comes to the Dodgers in the playoffs. I
was just was like, seriously, we're already somebody comment to
I posted something and they put a like a gif up.
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How I sleep knowing the Dodgers are gonna lose in
the playoffs like Gradu. That was the response to Tani
reaching fifty to fifty. Can we just get Can I
just have this for twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Can I just say to you, rent free? Because that's
the other comeback, rent free and rent free in your head,
Dodger fans. But this is this is the point of
it though. It is a perfect encapsulation of what the
Dodgers are. I get you want to enjoy everything, but
you are past the point of enjoying anything in the
regular season because it's come down to just the postseason.
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It's actually what makes the NBA so awful because we
don't enjoy anything in the eighty two games. We only
care about the postseason and what happens in the postseason
and how players play in the postseason, and then if
they win a championship or not, that is it. It's
the only thing we care about. And unfortunately, for the Dodgers,
in a sport where it was built on regular season numbers,
(25:11):
the home run, total, batting average, hitting streak, the whole deal. Unfortunately,
fifty to fifty comes from a team that needs to
win a World Series title. And if they don't, the
fifty to fifty magnifies that. Think the problem that people
have with the Dodgers when they look at them great
in the regular season, nothing in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Listening, You're not wrong, I understand it, but I guess
in my defense here is that the way shohe Otani
has played this entire season is nothing short of impressive.
And it's unfortunate because I think the hate that Otani
gets now is because he's a Dodger and he didn't
get it right. So like if this was if he
(25:52):
was doing this with another team, everyone would be enjoying
it a little bit more. And yes, I'm a Dodgers fan.
I work for the Dodgers, so obviously i'm when it
comes to this, But what he has done all year
is nothing short of impressive, and so I don't get
why we can't sell it. I know you just explained
it because of what the Dodgers have done the last
(26:13):
couple of years, and I agree, it's World Series or
bust it is. Do you can we talk about that yourrow?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Do you think John Carlos Stanton is liked as a
New York Yankee.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I don't think he's disliked.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A lot less than when he was with the Marlins.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Yeah right, yeah, But I don't think he's disliked because
there's other stars around him, like Shohey, a Tani's stardom
is bigger than at right now today than John carlos Stown,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Agreed, But I think that Stanton's a kind of different
label when he joined the Yankees from the Marlins. So
when he hits fifty nine with the Marlins, it wasn't
as big of a deal. Yeah, but Aaron Judge with
the Yankees challenging it and then breaking it enormous deal.
So Otani doing this for the Pittsburgh Pirates, it's wow,
(27:07):
all right, it's awesome. It is more volatile when it's
with the Dodgers. Yes, it would have, it would have.
I don't think it would have gotten the excitement that
it would have done if he was on another team
outside of the Dodgers or Yankees, or maybe the Cubs
or Phillies or something like or Mets or something like that.
But even the Dodgers being that team, it's a different
(27:29):
you know, it's a different volatility, if you will know.
And I just think that that maybe maybe they're Dodger haters.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Maybe that's the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
But when Aaron Judge hit sixty two and the Yankees
don't win the World Series, aren't people like, well, nice job,
here you go, another another non ring year with the Yankees.
It comes with the territory, and the Dodgers have had
many more opportunities to shed the label. I get twenty twenty,
But you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Oh, yeah, No, I understand.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I just I don't know if I should go to
the other Dodger fan here. And Jason Stewart in getting
his sense on this, but I mean, Manzi says, I'm
not far off with this? Am I far off on this? No,
you're not far off. I think it's an objective way
to look at it. And I would say that I
am as cynical and negative a Dodger fan as they come,
(28:24):
and I probably bring up the negative more than I should.
And I have been talking for years about the lack
of success in the postseason. All that is true, and
I blame Andrew Friedman. With all that said, I just
think I am sad that Yesterday was not made into
a big enough deal, Like if you traffic and content,
(28:44):
sports content like I do every day. It's just amazing
how little it was given credit. And it's kind of
sad because it speaks to where baseball is in the
national landscape, and it speaks to how utterly annoyingly popular
the NFL was, because as soon as that game started
last night, everything went away with Shohan and it it
(29:07):
kind of sucks it happened an hour beforehand. I will
say I did check ESPN's web page at about eleven
thirty last night, and Otani was the big story. Like
the top headline was Rogers and their headlines thing but
they're graphic. In the picture was the Dodgers one twenty
to four in Otani at fifty to fifty. I think
it's carried on some weight with it. But I'll also
(29:31):
say this, I think a home run record is way
more interesting than fifty to fifty because I remember Jose
Canseco trying to be forty forty, and it was more
about Jose Canseco the athlete, or if Alex Rodriguez is
chasing it, like on how great of an athlete they are,
than an actual mark in baseball that had been held
(29:53):
for you know, so many years. And I'll just use
you know Maris's home run mark in sixty one and
how get wrapped up with that. Hitting four hundred fifty
to fifty is a heck of an accomplishment to have
the power and speed, if you will. But I think
it just says more about the player than it does
the actual history of baseball, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I don't necessarily disagree with that either. I do think
more home runs, probably, I would agree, is more impressive.
But I do think there's context here. It's just o
tani Otani is better. Like did you think he was
going to be better offensively? I did not think he
could possibly get better.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I don't think he should pitch, period. I think I'm
not pitch, and I'm not talking about this year. I'm
not talking about the question. I just no, Like, like,
what's the point like if you if you sign that.
Jason made this point I think on social media as well,
of when has a free agent exceeded expectations and he
(30:51):
has done that? Hmm, so now you're like, okay, do more? Yeah?
Like that doesn't make it like like you're okay, now
this is your value. I would be more interested in
sixty sixty than I would to see him go and
pitch for the Dodgers and see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, because you can only assume that if he does
return to full time pitching, this is not going to
be how he runs the bases because he's probably gonna
want to protect himself a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
So.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Maybe the home runs stay about the same, But you're right,
it's gonna be a different game the way he approaches it.
I don't see him not coming back to pitching next year,
to be honest with you, but I don't think he
should pitch at all this year. Playoffs are not I
just don't pitch. But I think there's a chance we're
gonna see him pitch in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Gotta go. They always want the sequel. They want the
next movie, in the next movie, the next Sometimes it
falls off.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, can you imagine game I don't know, seven of
the World Series and we need three outs in the
ninth inning, and Otani says, I can do it.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I'll totally see it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Also, get out to Haroton, do it?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Do it? Yeah? We want an even better you know
storybook end? Yeah, come on, it happening in Miami yesterday, didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
He You're welcome Miami, though you have nothing to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You're welcome, Thank you. That's it.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Sam, You agree with it, Well, yeah, the like the
context of it. I mean, if this had happened at
Dodger Stadium, Yeah, at first I did not like that
it happened in Miami in front of those fans. There
are a lot of Dodger fans there too, But the
fact that he put together such an amazing complete game
and they put up twenty runs and he had one
of the greatest games in MLB history.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, it really doesn't matter where it happened. It had
to come against a crappy team. I know happened to
be a crappy team with no fans that really cared about.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
And to show his credit, he said he wanted to
get this out of the way. And I think that
because he went blue past fifty, he it was like
it's almost like it was just like this blur of scoring.
And so if it was just like he landed on fifty,
maybe would have I don't know, it would have been
celebrated more or something. But he just blew past all
of that.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
No is he going to come out of the bullpen
and no, don't do it. To your point. Put that
cherry on top of this delicious Sunday. She's Monty Blogno,
so I'm Dan Byer. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show
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Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam's here and Isaac Low and
(33:38):
Cron has brought a game.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
This is Game Time Game Sah on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Hello, Isaac, all we got today.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Here's what's on top?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
What do you have? Satchel?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I got dims.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Aw So I'm gonna uh.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Spit out figuratively or literally, depending on my enthusiasm various
sundry topics and possibilities in the world of sports. And
you guys, the whole crew jumps in and says who
you have DIBs on? And we will start as I
so often like to do because I'm a bitter, evil
(34:20):
human being. On the negative side, I want you to
get DIBs on your favorite team to see lose. Just
a team loses in devastating fashion and it just tickles
your heart. Who you got DIBs on?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
People?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I got DIBs on the San Diego Padres. Woh I can?
I really? I want them to lose every time I
see Yeah, come on. And it's very annoying because Manny
Machado is so good and Luis Arayes hits the ball
(34:58):
whenever he feels like it, so it's very annoying. But
they're the ones that bring me a little joy when
they lose.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
And Monster, you accidentally list left your social media up here.
You just got a notification Rich Ornberger has just added
you to the list people I hate on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Ah, that's good, I am. I've got the two fingers
up because we are fighting on this Saturday. Michigan can
lose in everything. I'm mad at Joel Klatt for his
stupid Michigan has been punished enough. Take on Colin cowhard
this week. Michigan can lose every single day, and it
would make me happy every single day. Just lose everything I.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Got, I gots, I got DIBs on a this year.
This is a recent one, and it's more it's specifically
a player. I love watching the Browns lose, and I
like watching Deshaun Watson get his ass kick I eat
Week one against the Cowboys. I enjoyed every time he
looked like he was in pain.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I mean, solid answers all around.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Really, iowash Sam always takes his time in this one. Well,
I guess it's like I always for a long time.
Wisconsin just used to beat Iowa consistently in football, so
I would love it when they Iowa would beat Wisconsin.
I don't know if I like to see them lose
all the time, but I'd definitely like to see them
lose to Iowa. And I just felt really good.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
What about Nebraska against Illinois's.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
That's a good game tonight, Yes, yes, Nebraska. It's like, all,
let's go to the next one. I mean, another moment, please.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Favorite fall relighted things. What do you have DIBs on?
And it can be sports football, whatever. It would also
be you know, your classic fall related things, even like
the special pumpkin latte you get at your local coffee shop.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Go, it won't be the time change that Montsy wondered
if it was this week.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
That's not until November, right, Yeah, but I got scared.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I got scared.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
She was definitely similar. She was, she was frightened. I
do love the leaves. I love the colors. I got
DIBs on the colors.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I got DIBs on all the spooky Halloween stuff. I
love getting scared. The scarier, the better, bring it on.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
I'll take DIBs on some rain Falling in southern California
takes a while. There are some sprinkles today actually driving in.
We're talking about I want substantial, measurable rainfall.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
I got DIBs on the weather. It's nice and cool.
I don't like being cold, but I like being in
the cold. Think about that.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
So Sam gets the rain portion of the weather, Jason
gets the cold portion of the weather.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
Fox Sports Radio chief meteorologists over there in the other room.
And that wraps up this addition, a surprisingly weather heavy
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show's time.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, everybody, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, It's Friday. I
went to a Jets game fourteen years ago and the
person I wanted to see was Fireman Ed. I have, like,
(00:39):
this was before video cameras were on phone, so I
brought my own digital camera. I had like six videos
of Fireman Ed from my seat, just of him leading
the charges of the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
How clear was the image? I want to know more
about this camera. Did it have the little flip screen?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Nor?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was just a pocket one. Yeah, that's all it was.
But I constantly just kept on like any time I
thought he would do is I And by the way,
I was so many sections, yeah, so far away. Then
when I would zoom in, like it would just be
glory pixels.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:35):
And nothing has changed, Bonci because the expectations for a
New York Jets quarterback in twenty ten were the same
as they are in twenty twenty four. Actually I think
it was twenty eleven when I went. But still the
point being is the expectations and I at first have
my arm high, it's going lower and lower and lower
(01:57):
and lower. And I know last night's game on Amazon
to start Week three wasn't one of those headline grabbers.
We're still talking about Otani, which we will in twenty
minutes or so, But there actually is a bigger reason
why last night was a big deal. And the bigger
reason is this, you gotta give the New York Jets
fans some grace. Last night was a big, big night
(02:21):
for them. And the reason it's a big, big night
is because this franchise has been riddled with poor quarterback
play for I would say almost fifty years. But there
are people who are like Joe Navid's not a Hall
of Famer. He's throwing more interceptions than he has touchdowns.
How the heck is he a Hall of Famer? So
you can even go plus fifty years when talking about
(02:43):
the New York Jets and last night when they see
Aaron Rodgers throwing the football around the yard like he
did almost three hundred yards, almost a magnificent perfect night,
aside from one instance on the sideline and about sixteen
yards short of a three hundred yard game. It was
a script that New York Jets fans have been craving for,
(03:06):
not for the season, not since Rogers went down with
his achilles tendon, but basically forever. That's why last night
was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
But you know, I don't necessarily agree that the bar
is low. Are you saying that the bar is low
for Jets fans, because for football fans, I wouldn't say that.
I feel the way that Aaron Rodgers is looked at, scrutinized,
criticized left and right. And also let's talk about let's
not forget to mention last year going down what four
(03:36):
snaps in and I feel like there was actually a
lot of pressure going into this season and so I
don't know if I necessararily agree with you unless you're
talking about Jets fans. For Jets fans, the bar is
low just because of how terrible their history has been
with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Do you think Jets fans were excited last night?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't know many Jets fans, but I'm gonna say yes,
I think they were as well.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Right, Ian Roddy, as a producer and editor here at
Fox Sports Radio, Yes, Ian was excited.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Jason Smith, Jason Smith was exciting most of the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon week nights on Fox Sports Radio.
He was excited. The Jets fans that I saw on
Twitter last night were excited or on X excuse me,
but to you and me as non Jets fans, it
was a twenty four to three blowout game that never
(04:29):
was really close.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
But it's everything within that game that is the reason
why it's a bigger deal. It's Rogers not tearing his
achilles on the fourth play from scrimmage in front of
the home fans last night. It's not having your best
seasons in the last fifteen years. Be Mark Sanchez handing
the football off to Sean Green. It's not that any
Testaverdi was like fifty two years old when he was
(04:53):
leading the Jets in the mid nineties. I may be exaggerating,
but that's what it was at that time. No disrespect
of any Testaverdi, who completely turned his career around and
is one heck of an NFL quarterback. But this is
Aaron Rodgers. And even though Aaron Rodgers is forty, last
night he looked anything butt forty. And this is why
(05:14):
it's a bigger deal is because it's not just twenty
four to three. And why did Gerrod Mayo put Drake
may in at the end of the game. That's trying
to find something that happened last night. Everything that happened
last night is reading between the lines, and we'll read
between the lines of what happened with Robert solid Aaron Rodgers,
because that's a big part of this. But when you
think of the Jets, you're right. I picked the Jets
(05:35):
to win the division, so a win last night shouldn't
have any effect on that. But this team has never
really had hope. They've had good teams. They've hoped to
beat Tom Brady, they've hoped to have that upset, but
they've never had it at the most important position, where
now they actually have someone there that can win a
(05:55):
game on their own or make it look effortless like
Aaron Rodgers did likelast night. You know, I'm not a
huge Rogers fan, but I do appreciate his craft. There
are people who call him the greatest of all time
because of how he's played the position. Even Drake May
got into some heat last night because he said I'm
waiting for the goat. Then Mike Garafalo had to clear
up his tweet and why Drake May was saying goat
(06:18):
and the whole deal. Whatever the case is, this franchise
has been miserable for so long and finally, in a
shining light, they have their quarterbacks. And it may only
be a year, may only be two years, who knows
what it is. But that's why last night was a
big deal for New York Jets fans. That's why just
winning a regular season game in September over the Patriots
(06:40):
your arrival for the last twenty years, I mean, hacking
have been since twenty fifteen, since I think the stat
was since they had beaten the Patriots at home. I
believe that the stat was, But so you have all
of that come down to last night, Jets overmanned the Patriots.
That's how we see it. Completely different story with the
Jets fans, sure.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It might be and beyond. To me, as a non
Jets fan, I looked at that game and I was
just like, Okay, here's the Jets defense that I was
expecting to see weeks one and two, because that was
one of the big things with why I thought the
Jets would be successful. I don't know if I had
them winning the division, but I did pick them to
go into the playoffs because I thought their defense kept
(07:22):
them afloat last year with Zach Wilson. Aaron Rodgers has
to be the difference maker to get them those three
more wins to get into the playoffs. So I hear
everything you're saying. You're right a big deal because Aaron
Rodgers did look very comfortable out there. But to me,
the defense showing up was actually also a really big deal.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think the Patriots played a role in that they're
extremely limited, but it's a defense that lost Remaine Johnson
last week, didn't have CJ. Moseley last night, and obviously
we know about is Son Reddick. All of that is
not good for the Jets. But guess what, all of
that did not matter because they have their quarterback. It
would have mattered if it was Zack Wilson. It would
have mattered. If it was Mark Sanchez, it would have mattered.
If it was Ken O'Brien. It would have mattered, if
(08:04):
it was Richard Todd, it would have mattered if it
was Joe Namath. Like, you can go on Bloomersias and
keep on naming Jet Chad Penning the whole deal. Let's
just keep on going naming Jets quarterbacks. Those things wouldn't
have mattered last night. It didn't matter. What also mattered
was Aaron Rodgers giving a death stare to his head coach,
which is another between the lines headline from last night
that we just can't seem to get away. So as
(08:24):
much as I want to praise Aaron Rodgers, we now
have the death stare scene for Miles.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Away, I'm just like, why, Aaron, Why you already know
what people think of you, so why give them more, ammo?
Because there's no there's nothing you could say after that
incident that the camera caught, and I was like, man,
did you see that I rewinded it and I was like,
let's look at it again, me and my friend. I
was like, I should you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Tape it on a VCR videotape? Is that? No?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
No? Luckily I can rewind. So I did rewind and
we watched it again. I was like, look at it
and thank you. I was like, look at him. He
likes stops them hard and gives him a gives him
a look like I don't like you, get off of me.
Obviously that's not what they sent after, but I just
was like, Aaron, this is week three. You can't pretend.
(09:14):
For a hot second, you can't pretend.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Aaron Rodgers gave an explanation on why he gave Robert
Sala death stare during last day. So is after the
second touchdown? Correct? Was that after the second touchdown to
go up thirteen to three with the extra point coming up?
This is Aaron Rodgers' explanation.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
He's not a big hugger usually, so I don't know
he was going for the hug. He likes to do
the two hand chest push as well, but he talks
a lot about two score leads, so I just kind
of gave him a push and said two score lead.
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They were okay, it was fourteen, it was fourteen to nothing,
that fourteen to three. They went fourteen to nothing at
that point, and the two score lead. I don't know
necessarily what he is to talking about at that point. Yeah,
I don't know if you should not get excited from
a two score lead, but at that point Aaron Rodgers,
who I don't think realized he was being recorded.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
But okay, come on, man, you have to assume Aaron
Rodgers has to assume the camera is on him twenty
four to seven.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't think he did, because that's why I think
he stared him down. I think that is that's the
underlying portion of this. Plus Sala just seems like such
an alpha male. Yeah, and to see Rogers almost put
him in his place with that stare resonated so much more.
Of course, I mean if to have Sala be so excited,
(10:42):
which says one thing considering all that he has been through,
and then it shows how many eggs of his are
in Aaron rodgers basket, and Aaron Rodgers still won't let
him have that moment. There wasn't even a smirk from
Aaron Rodgers. After that, I compared it to the Kobe
Bryant We're up two oh, job is not done. Is
that what Aaron Rodgers wanted to say, or was that
(11:03):
his point or did he want to send a message
to Robert Sala saying like, look, man, this is still
my show. I'm running it. You need to chill out.
We haven't done anything. Get out of my face. That's
the sense that I got from.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That look and the way you just said all that
was better than how he handled it. Just the way
it was executed on his end, it looked so terrible.
Whether it is him saying this is still my team,
you need to chill out, whether it's insane, don't get excited.
We haven't won yet. There's still plenty of game to go.
Whatever the intention was, all it did though, was shine
(11:37):
a light on the type of guy that Aaron Rodgers
comes off to the rest of us. Because I don't
know him personally, I can just make assumptions based on
what he says, how he acts, and all of that
just like added to that where I'm like, bro, like
you do not seem like a fun guy to have
a cocktail with. Let me tell you that you do
not seem like somebody that I want to be friends with,
(11:58):
And I don't want my quarter and my coach to
have that type of relationship that looked toxic.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
There's nothing worse than not knowing your boundary, right, Yeah,
like there's something, there's something, yes that where like Sala
thought you were good and then you weren't. It's like
giving do you give someone a hug in a social
setting and then they extend a handshake and then you're like, Okay,
(12:24):
what do I do? That's awkward enough When you know
each other and are on the same team and you
can't even get it correct, that's a bigger problem.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, it almost like would have been better if he
just would have walked away from him. Yeah, but he
like stopped him hard, like, like you said, exerted his
like Elphinis over Sala's alphinus.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
This is Robert Sala explaining his side of the Botch hug.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Part of the things that we've been talking about is
to just get the defensive two score ly, and those
two scorely, So I guess you just wanted to see
something on defense.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
So it just reminded me that you got two score me.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I mean, it's interesting that they both mentioned something about
a two score lead. So I'm like, all right, which
PR person handled this on the sideline? Was like, listen,
you're both gonna say something about this when they ask
you about it, because you are literally on everyone's TV screen.
Everyone has positive and they're talking about this moment that
was a total PR move.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Did your family ever take take a vacation and go
to a hotel with a pool, like a swimming pool?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Not that really I can remember. We didn't take a
lot of vcage, Okayn.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Like, I'm not talking about Disney, and I'm just like, yeah,
out of town, you go to a hotel it has
a pool, and as a kid, you loved it. That
was one of my things of going to a hotel
with a pool. There weren't a lot of hotels with
pools where I grew up. Iowa, Sam, You're with me
on that absolutely big deal. Parents say, hey, you can
(13:59):
swim tomorrow. Well, my mom says, guess what, you can
go swimming at the hotel pool tomorrow. Well the pool
opens at six am, so at five point fifty nine
you're ready to go. Not necessarily what your mom or
your parents were talking about when they said you could
swim tomorrow. Two score lead in the fourth quarter, completely
(14:20):
different story than two score lead midway through the second
quarter of your first home game of the year. So
there's that aspect of it as well. So if Sala
is preaching hey to score lead, to score lead, and
Rogers comes off the field in the second quarter giving
him a two score lead, the job isn't done yet.
That's where I think Rogers is saying, like there's a
(14:42):
miscommunication on what to score lead is, just like there's
a miscommunication on well, I thought we were going swimming today.
The pool opens at six am. Yet you'll go swimming
at five pm a little bit later on. We are
not going right now. That's the disconnect that I feel
that Rogers and Sala had of all right to score lead.
Roger's like, well, big deal, two scored lead in the
(15:02):
second quarter. He that those evaporate all the time. Two
scored lead in the fourth quarter is a bigger deal
because it makes the other team one dimensional. That's how
I'm trying to solve this, That's how I'm trying to
think of. They're not even on the same page when
they're trying to send a message about what a two
score lead is this is just Rogers being a jerk,
like even in a great moment. That's probably the biggest takeaways.
(15:23):
They praised Rogers at the start, the real takeaway is
that Rogers just had an opportunity where he felt like
he could be a jerk and he took advantage.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Of it full fully took advantage of it. And here's
the thing is that I think I don't believe that
that's really why he handled Sola like that because he
didn't think the job was done. It looked like he
just genuinely doesn't like the guy. And that's what he
said in the moment because he just, you know, didn't
want to say something worse than what he did. But
(15:51):
I really feel like it was it was more than that.
That was just what came out of his mouth in
the moment as to why he stopped the coach with.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's easy to think that the rest of the team
would have gotten a weird message if they would have
had a hug good.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What do you mean that the team would have thought
it was weird if they hugged?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, Like, does Aaron Rodgers send the message to the Jets?
I hugged Robert Sala on the second quarter, So we've
accomplished a lot. I keep going back to the Kobe
two zero things because I do think that that's Aaron Rodgers'
scapegoat and all of this job's not finished. Job is
not done. If you're the New York Jets who have
(16:31):
laid out the misery of that franchise earlier, are you
really going to take a victory lap up fourteen to
nothing on the Patriots in the second quarter of Week three?
Doesn't that send a bad message to the rest of
the team. If Rogers is getting to that point again,
I can understand it a heck of a lot more,
but I'm trying to give him as many outs as
(16:52):
I can.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, No, I hear what you're saying, and you're right.
There may be a little bit to that. You're probably right.
It still was handled properly. Even if that is the
underlying feeling. You still came off like a total jerk.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So what should he have done? Hugged him? No, give
him the smirk at the end album.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Maybe a smirk. It's just the way he stopped him.
Come on the double fist, because he didn't just put
his hand like softly on him and been like, yo,
we're not done, because that's all you know what I mean?
Like that, really you could have done all of that,
but your hand open, not both fists stopping him. And
it looked like Sla even pushed like there was you know,
pressure from both sides. All of that just looked like
(17:34):
there was tension. So easily he could have stopped him
and said, job's not done. Done a wink. He loves
to wink. We've seen him do it done a little
whatever smirk and then ran onto the field.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I don't think he knew that the camera was on.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
How does That's one another thing I can't get on.
I can't get with you on.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That one because I don't I think that he wanted
Robert Sala to know that I'm not playing this game
like it's a mind game with everyone. I don't think
you everybody else to know about it. Do you guys
think he was recorded? Sam Jason, do you think that
he knew that he was on camera?
Speaker 8 (18:07):
You should expect to you should expect to be surveiled
at all times, whether you're in a stadium, you're on TV,
you're playing, you're walking down the street. Their cameras everywhere,
so somebody probably got the reaction, just assume.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Because it wasn't it was a camera from the sideline
that caught him do that. So it wasn't like it
was a game camera or something like that that would
be able to see. I understand that there are cameras everywhere.
I just I think that his message was to tell
Robert Sala to put him in his place, that this
is my team, this is my deal.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
So right after a touchdown though, too, So it's like
they always get those.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Reactions, right, like, how do you not anticipate one camera
on you pretty much the entire game, especially after a touchdown.
We did have somebody respond to us. Assad Lyndon is
the name and says, Aaron Rodgers owns Robert Sala.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Can I just can I just say something. I think
Robert sala is really I'm sorry. I think Robert saw
is really desperate to win and he wants to get them.
He knows he's a few years behind with the Jets
just because of you know, injuries and last year and
just just a whole bunch of things, just getting having
the team stall out. I think he's a good coach
and he's like, we should be a winning franchise. We
(19:21):
should be a winning organization. And Rogers is just like,
I've won a Super Bowl, I've won four MVPs, I've
gotten to the playoffs like almost every year I've been a quarterback.
Give me just give it more time, don't get too ahead.
A few weeks from now, let's say week nine, week ten,
and they have a great record. All of this stuff,
this awkwardness is gonna be like a castle in the sand.
It's going to wash it away by the tide.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So you agree with the Kobe up to oh, like
Kobe not satisfied, You agree right.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Like Rodgers is like, we're not there yet, We're only
two and one.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'm trying to give Rogers the benefit of that. I
like that. I think to the point of him giving
a smirk to Sala could have helped the situation because yeah, yes, yeah,
but in trying to give him the benefit of the doubt,
I think that's what Rogers would say he was doing.
And also in reality, it is just a jerk.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Right And to add to what Sam is saying, it's like,
I think it was a nice moment that Robert Sala
felt happy right there, Like it's been such a rough
time for Robert Sala too. He's been having to defend
the Jets for so long, and so I it's like
he was. He seemed genuinely excited in that moment, and
then Aaron Rodgers was.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Like, nope, yeah, it hasn't been a picnic for him either. Yeah,
like you know, so he's got more to lose as well.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah. It just doesn't make Aaron Rodgers look good in
any way, shape or form, even if it's the Mamba
mentality and where job's not done, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 2 (20:54):
Doug gollib Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Fire, She's
Manzie Belanos. Did I give you guys the Aaron Rodgers
look prior to the show. I hope I didn't. I
know it was a little tense in here.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
You gave a look. You gave a look, which is
why I asked you. What did I ask you? I remember,
it's like it looks like you want to punch everybody.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I didn't want to punch everybody. That's what I
said no, I didn't want to punch everybody. But I
then explained myself to you guys and what got under
my skin. And I hope it's cleared the air, because
I don't know if Aaron Rodgers and Robert Salav cleared
the air.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
She is Monty Belania. So I'm Dan Byer. We are
in for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. Isaac
Lohenkron's got an update for us in sixty seconds. I
want to say one other thing about this Aaron Rodgers stuff, Jez.
Both Jason and I read his book. I listened to it.
Did you read her you audiobook did as well, right, Jason.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I prefer to call it a hybrid. I read it
and listened to it.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But people who think it's really snooty and stuck up
to read things, they don't buy me reading and listening.
So I just say I listened to it. So yes.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
A theme in this book was Aaron Rodgers putting people
on this island where he doesn't have communication anymore. Right, Yes,
doesn't talk to family friends. He's done this other people.
It felt like Robert Salah was being sent to the
Island last night. That's what it felt like. Yeah, I
think that's the perfect way to kind of sum up.
No matter what both of them say, their explanation about
(22:21):
the two scores doesn't even make sense. I just think
Aaron Rodgers could probably save himself to try to sound
like the ultimate competitor instead of sounding like the ultimate jerk. Yes,
or looking like the ultimate jerk.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
My last question here, is he the guy reading to
you his book? And is it his voice?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
No, it's actually not even Ian O'Connor. It's someone else
who gets so many names wrong. It's amazing like common
names as well. Yes, it's it, really, it's it's crazy.
It's you know, Brett Favre. No, it wasn't It wasn't
that bad. It wasn't that bad. But it was along
those lines, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Was that Today's impressive?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Just a footnote Because of time, I had to cut
it up. I had to edit the context. Monty was
not as confused as that made it seem back to you.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
No, that was funny. I liked it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
There is also some other mancy audio that we may
get to at some point during this show. Yeah, you
gitter up at Manti Blanya's find me at Dan Byron Flott.
You can find Isaac Loankron at Isaac Lohenkron. I haven't
seen people this excited for a fifty to fifty since
a fifty to fifty raffle got over five hundred K. Like,
this is crazy. We are twenty one hours removed from
(23:31):
sho hey Otani reaching the fifty to fifty mark in
a game where he hit fourteen home runs, knocked in
forty two runs, and scored eighteen times. I think that's
what it was last night in Miami against the Marlins
twenty to four victory, but the numbers were talking about
our fifty to fifty. You hate people like me who say, boy,
(23:52):
if the Dodgers don't do anything of the postseason, this
is gonna mean nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I just was like, can we like have a moment.
Can we have twenty four hours to celebrate this before
we already start talking about the playoffs and the history
that seems to repeat itself the last couple of years
when it comes to the Dodgers in the playoffs. I
was just was like, seriously, we're already somebody comment to
I posted something and they put a like a gif up.
(24:17):
How I sleep knowing the Dodgers are gonna lose in
the playoffs like Gradu. That was the response to Tani
reaching fifty to fifty. Can we just get Can I
just have this for twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Can I just say to you, rent free? Because that's
the other comeback, rent free and rent free in your head,
Dodger fans. But this is this is the point of
it though. It is a perfect encapsulation of what the
Dodgers are. I get you want to enjoy everything, but
you are past the point of enjoying anything in the
regular season because it's come down to just the postseason.
(24:48):
It's actually what makes the NBA so awful because we
don't enjoy anything in the eighty two games. We only
care about the postseason and what happens in the postseason
and how players play in the postseason, and then if
they win a championship or not, that is it. It's
the only thing we care about. And unfortunately, for the Dodgers,
in a sport where it was built on regular season numbers,
(25:11):
the home run, total, batting average, hitting streak, the whole deal. Unfortunately,
fifty to fifty comes from a team that needs to
win a World Series title. And if they don't, the
fifty to fifty magnifies that. Think the problem that people
have with the Dodgers when they look at them great
in the regular season, nothing in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Listening, You're not wrong, I understand it, but I guess
in my defense here is that the way shohe Otani
has played this entire season is nothing short of impressive.
And it's unfortunate because I think the hate that Otani
gets now is because he's a Dodger and he didn't
get it right. So like if this was if he
(25:52):
was doing this with another team, everyone would be enjoying
it a little bit more. And yes, I'm a Dodgers fan.
I work for the Dodgers, so obviously i'm when it
comes to this, But what he has done all year
is nothing short of impressive, and so I don't get
why we can't sell it. I know you just explained
it because of what the Dodgers have done the last
(26:13):
couple of years, and I agree, it's World Series or
bust it is. Do you can we talk about that yourrow?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Do you think John Carlos Stanton is liked as a
New York Yankee.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I don't think he's disliked.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A lot less than when he was with the Marlins.
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Yeah right, yeah, But I don't think he's disliked because
there's other stars around him, like Shohey, a Tani's stardom
is bigger than at right now today than John carlos Stown,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Agreed, But I think that Stanton's a kind of different
label when he joined the Yankees from the Marlins. So
when he hits fifty nine with the Marlins, it wasn't
as big of a deal. Yeah, but Aaron Judge with
the Yankees challenging it and then breaking it enormous deal.
So Otani doing this for the Pittsburgh Pirates, it's wow,
(27:07):
all right, it's awesome. It is more volatile when it's
with the Dodgers. Yes, it would have, it would have.
I don't think it would have gotten the excitement that
it would have done if he was on another team
outside of the Dodgers or Yankees, or maybe the Cubs
or Phillies or something like or Mets or something like that.
But even the Dodgers being that team, it's a different
(27:29):
you know, it's a different volatility, if you will know.
And I just think that that maybe maybe they're Dodger haters.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Maybe that's the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
But when Aaron Judge hit sixty two and the Yankees
don't win the World Series, aren't people like, well, nice job,
here you go, another another non ring year with the Yankees.
It comes with the territory, and the Dodgers have had
many more opportunities to shed the label. I get twenty twenty,
But you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Oh, yeah, No, I understand.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I just I don't know if I should go to
the other Dodger fan here. And Jason Stewart in getting
his sense on this, but I mean, Manzi says, I'm
not far off with this? Am I far off on this? No,
you're not far off. I think it's an objective way
to look at it. And I would say that I
am as cynical and negative a Dodger fan as they come,
(28:24):
and I probably bring up the negative more than I should.
And I have been talking for years about the lack
of success in the postseason. All that is true, and
I blame Andrew Friedman. With all that said, I just
think I am sad that Yesterday was not made into
a big enough deal, Like if you traffic and content,
(28:44):
sports content like I do every day. It's just amazing
how little it was given credit. And it's kind of
sad because it speaks to where baseball is in the
national landscape, and it speaks to how utterly annoyingly popular
the NFL was, because as soon as that game started
last night, everything went away with Shohan and it it
(29:07):
kind of sucks it happened an hour beforehand. I will
say I did check ESPN's web page at about eleven
thirty last night, and Otani was the big story. Like
the top headline was Rogers and their headlines thing but
they're graphic. In the picture was the Dodgers one twenty
to four in Otani at fifty to fifty. I think
it's carried on some weight with it. But I'll also
(29:31):
say this, I think a home run record is way
more interesting than fifty to fifty because I remember Jose
Canseco trying to be forty forty, and it was more
about Jose Canseco the athlete, or if Alex Rodriguez is
chasing it, like on how great of an athlete they are,
than an actual mark in baseball that had been held
(29:53):
for you know, so many years. And I'll just use
you know Maris's home run mark in sixty one and
how get wrapped up with that. Hitting four hundred fifty
to fifty is a heck of an accomplishment to have
the power and speed, if you will. But I think
it just says more about the player than it does
the actual history of baseball, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I don't necessarily disagree with that either. I do think
more home runs, probably, I would agree, is more impressive.
But I do think there's context here. It's just o
tani Otani is better. Like did you think he was
going to be better offensively? I did not think he
could possibly get better.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I don't think he should pitch, period. I think I'm
not pitch, and I'm not talking about this year. I'm
not talking about the question. I just no, Like, like,
what's the point like if you if you sign that.
Jason made this point I think on social media as well,
of when has a free agent exceeded expectations and he
(30:51):
has done that? Hmm, so now you're like, okay, do more? Yeah?
Like that doesn't make it like like you're okay, now
this is your value. I would be more interested in
sixty sixty than I would to see him go and
pitch for the Dodgers and see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, because you can only assume that if he does
return to full time pitching, this is not going to
be how he runs the bases because he's probably gonna
want to protect himself a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
So.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Maybe the home runs stay about the same, But you're right,
it's gonna be a different game the way he approaches it.
I don't see him not coming back to pitching next year,
to be honest with you, but I don't think he
should pitch at all this year. Playoffs are not I
just don't pitch. But I think there's a chance we're
gonna see him pitch in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Gotta go. They always want the sequel. They want the
next movie, in the next movie, the next Sometimes it
falls off.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, can you imagine game I don't know, seven of
the World Series and we need three outs in the
ninth inning, and Otani says, I can do it.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
I'll totally see it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Also, get out to Haroton, do it?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Do it? Yeah? We want an even better you know
storybook end? Yeah, come on, it happening in Miami yesterday, didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
He You're welcome Miami, though you have nothing to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You're welcome, Thank you. That's it.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Sam, You agree with it, Well, yeah, the like the
context of it. I mean, if this had happened at
Dodger Stadium, Yeah, at first I did not like that
it happened in Miami in front of those fans. There
are a lot of Dodger fans there too, But the
fact that he put together such an amazing complete game
and they put up twenty runs and he had one
of the greatest games in MLB history.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, it really doesn't matter where it happened. It had
to come against a crappy team. I know happened to
be a crappy team with no fans that really cared about.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
And to show his credit, he said he wanted to
get this out of the way. And I think that
because he went blue past fifty, he it was like
it's almost like it was just like this blur of scoring.
And so if it was just like he landed on fifty,
maybe would have I don't know, it would have been
celebrated more or something. But he just blew past all
of that.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
No is he going to come out of the bullpen
and no, don't do it. To your point. Put that
cherry on top of this delicious Sunday. She's Monty Blogno,
so I'm Dan Byer. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, Oh, our favorite
Friday tradition. That's next here on Fox.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
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Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam's here and Isaac Low and
(33:38):
Cron has brought a game.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
This is Game Time Game Sah on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Hello, Isaac, all we got today.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Here's what's on top?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
What do you have? Satchel?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I got dims.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Aw So I'm gonna uh.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Spit out figuratively or literally, depending on my enthusiasm various
sundry topics and possibilities in the world of sports. And
you guys, the whole crew jumps in and says who
you have DIBs on? And we will start as I
so often like to do because I'm a bitter, evil
(34:20):
human being. On the negative side, I want you to
get DIBs on your favorite team to see lose. Just
a team loses in devastating fashion and it just tickles
your heart. Who you got DIBs on?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
People?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I got DIBs on the San Diego Padres. Woh I can?
I really? I want them to lose every time I
see Yeah, come on. And it's very annoying because Manny
Machado is so good and Luis Arayes hits the ball
(34:58):
whenever he feels like it, so it's very annoying. But
they're the ones that bring me a little joy when
they lose.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
And Monster, you accidentally list left your social media up here.
You just got a notification Rich Ornberger has just added
you to the list people I hate on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Ah, that's good, I am. I've got the two fingers
up because we are fighting on this Saturday. Michigan can
lose in everything. I'm mad at Joel Klatt for his
stupid Michigan has been punished enough. Take on Colin cowhard
this week. Michigan can lose every single day, and it
would make me happy every single day. Just lose everything I.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Got, I gots, I got DIBs on a this year.
This is a recent one, and it's more it's specifically
a player. I love watching the Browns lose, and I
like watching Deshaun Watson get his ass kick I eat
Week one against the Cowboys. I enjoyed every time he
looked like he was in pain.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I mean, solid answers all around.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Really, iowash Sam always takes his time in this one. Well,
I guess it's like I always for a long time.
Wisconsin just used to beat Iowa consistently in football, so
I would love it when they Iowa would beat Wisconsin.
I don't know if I like to see them lose
all the time, but I'd definitely like to see them
lose to Iowa. And I just felt really good.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
What about Nebraska against Illinois's.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
That's a good game tonight, Yes, yes, Nebraska. It's like, all,
let's go to the next one. I mean, another moment, please.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Favorite fall relighted things. What do you have DIBs on?
And it can be sports football, whatever. It would also
be you know, your classic fall related things, even like
the special pumpkin latte you get at your local coffee shop.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Go, it won't be the time change that Montsy wondered
if it was this week.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
That's not until November, right, Yeah, but I got scared.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I got scared.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
She was definitely similar. She was, she was frightened. I
do love the leaves. I love the colors. I got
DIBs on the colors.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I got DIBs on all the spooky Halloween stuff. I
love getting scared. The scarier, the better, bring it on.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
I'll take DIBs on some rain Falling in southern California
takes a while. There are some sprinkles today actually driving in.
We're talking about I want substantial, measurable rainfall.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
I got DIBs on the weather. It's nice and cool.
I don't like being cold, but I like being in
the cold. Think about that.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
So Sam gets the rain portion of the weather, Jason
gets the cold portion of the weather.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
Fox Sports Radio chief meteorologists over there in the other room.
And that wraps up this addition, a surprisingly weather heavy
related edition of I Got dips Ay shortly after the
show's time.
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