September 23, 2024 • 49 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the Chiefs win over the Falcons Sunday night and wonders out loud how Kansas City just finds a way to win each week.
On this version of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most from their sports weekend.
Doug discusses a couple of people who took revenge on their former teams over the weekend. Doug welcomes former pro-bowl receiver and current FSR TJ Houshmandzadeh on to talk about the Raiders, Chiefs and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
What an absolutely crazy weekend in the college game and
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(00:52):
we need to start with I think we need to
start with last night, It's Chiefs win over the Falcons
Chiefs because when you're watching that game early on, you're like, oh, yeah,
Falcons got this one, and then you're in factor in
your brain. Okay, well maybe not because you know it's
Kirk Cousins is primetime. Kirk Cousins and Kirk Cousins primetime.
(01:15):
Kirk Cousins is a bad thing. And you know, for
the third consecutive game, and Pat Mahomes in the first
half kind of loose with the ball. His interception guy
was open. I think yeah, I mean I believe that
Kelsey was open. I think it was Kelsey in the
end zone. He just underthrew it, gets picked off and
(01:38):
you're looking up and then the Chiefs managed to get
to fourteen thirteen at the half, and he's just like, well,
the Chiefs are just kind of hanging around doing their thing.
They don't have a great running game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And if you were going to tell me that Carson
Steele was gonna what a great name, though, Carson Steele,
It's gonna lead down in rushing with seventy two yards,
like congratulations, yeah, Rushie Rice, As we told you. The
only reason they haven't gotten rid ofver she Rice, who
was on camera walking away from the scene of a
(02:15):
car chase whatever and the car crash that other people
were badly hurt in the only reason he hasn't been
suspended because he's their best player, best offensive weapon outside
of Pat Mahomes. And like for a third consecutive week,
you walk away going like, are they amy good? I
don't know, but keep winning games. Here's Pat Mahomes afterwards.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
We haven't played good. I mean really, all three games
we've been able to win. I mean that speaks to
the character of the team, the grid, how we've been
in these situations before. But I'll speak especially offensively and
me myself, I feel like I haven't played very well.
And that's not a stats thing. I just feel like
I'm missing opportunities whenever they're out there and not throwing
the ball in the exact spot I want it to
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be yet, So it's about me getting back to my
fund mentals, putting our guys in the right position, and
then we got to execute at a higher level offensively.
If teams are gonna make us drive the field, we
have to prove that we're able.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
And I'm sure we'll get a lot of the same
this next week with the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Here's Rahie Morris when he's asked about a late non
no call on Kyle Pits and the end zone probably
should have been called past interference.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
They didn't see the pass interference and look like us
clearly passive affairs on the replay.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I like my money. Let I like my money, But
Arthur Blank gives me you don't have to get that.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Very smart enough to be aware enough to talk about officials.
They made the call or they didn't make the call.
And it is what it is. We got to we
had a chance to win the football game when the
last play the game, they did so I guess. Look,
there's some some coaching stuff that you have to get to.
There's some parts that you absolutely wonder about, and then
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there's just a it does I actually, you know, I
find time when we have a podcast that we do
an hour of the show of if you haven't downloaded,
download review download podcasts, just typing Doug Gottlieb, and part
of it will do you know what does the Fox say?
Where we play portion of what everybody else has said
all day long? And we didn't use cow Hurt today,
(04:17):
but I did hear him or maybe saw his thing
on the volume about how it feels like the Patriots.
It does. It does. It's a completely dissimilar but totally
similar thing to the Patriots in that it doesn't make
any sense to me at all how they keep winning
these games except for the fact that the old winners win.
(04:38):
They just find a way. You know, they're just okay,
Like are they what are they good at? Like I
don't know. I mean, Chris Jones is really really good
and the defense is good. It's not great, it's good,
but they hang around, hang around, and he finds a
way to score enough points like I don't. It's whereas
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we when you'd watch the Patriots play and this was
like a fifteen year time where you're just like, they're okay,
their defense is okay, their offensive skilled, they have a
guy here or there, and then they would end up
with twelve or thirteen wins and we would all say, well,
the AFC AFC East stinks. Yeah, that part to it.
I just I'm gonna tell you honestly, it does. I'm
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gonna agree with Cowherd, which I don't always do, and
I will call out when I don't do it. I'm
gonna agree with Cowherd. It does feel like the Pats
in that there is no reasonable way of explaining how
they win all these games when I mean, heck, he
said it, and he said it well, had even played well,
(05:43):
haven't even played well, and yet here they are three
and now, whereas I have some other teams that have
played well that are one and two. Some teams are
zero and three, couple or two and one Jason Buyer,
I mean, can you is that help put it together
(06:06):
for somebody who didn't watch last night's game, because I was,
I watched an extensive part. I watched every play last
night's game, and I remember watching the first half going like, man,
maybe Atlantic could win this thing, and then he ends
up being the pass to the same well, I mean
the past I say, Pats, the Chiefs do the same.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
This is the part that I would disagree with Cowherd
or disagree with you on saying it feels like the Patriots.
It feels like the Patriots. When the Chiefs go and
win the Super Bowl again, or when you think they're
out of it, they're back in it. But the Patriots
would kick the crap out of some teams. They would,
and maybe maybe there'd be a regular season game where
they'd falter a little.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But this Chiefs team again.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Week one, a toe's out of bounds, We two bailed
out by a pass interference penalty, allowing them to kick
the game winning field goal. And then last night getting
a fourth and one stop as the Falcons failed to
kick a field goal earlier on the drive where you
had the pass interference that wasn't called. So those are
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Houdini like escapes, and two of those are at home.
Granted they're against teams that you think you would play
in the playoffs and face against the playoffs, but there
were times the Patriots just put it on teams and
that's not Kansas City. And I think that your analysis
of we're not sure what they're great at is very
fair because the running game is not the same without
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Isaiah pa check out, not that they would commit to
it anyway. Travis Kelcey hasn't been as much of a factor.
Rashi Rice is their weapon. But what they are good
at is what you said. They're winning, Yeah, winning games.
Knowing late game situations. Do you think the Chiefs would
have had the play call the Falcons ran on fourth
and one? Probably not, No, that wouldn't have been the case.
And to give the Chiefs the credit that they deserve
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on that play completely blew the Falcons off the line
of scrimmage. So whatever play the Falcons ran, they weren't
going to succeed. But Kansas City understands it. Kansas City
had a game last year and I remember this, Doug
because it was Week seventeen, and I lost in fantasy
football because Harrison Butcker kicked six field goals that game.
(08:17):
Last not the Atlanta Falcons are like, now we need
a touchdown. We need to do this. You kick two
field goals, You give yourself a chance to at least
win the game. Now, maybe they did have a chance
at the end, but I would rather take Young Wayku
kicking those two field goals and going and hoping your
defense gets a stop, especially at home. Maybe you don't
(08:37):
get that pass interference call like the Chiefs did last week.
Maybe you could play tougher on defense. But man, they
just figure out a way to win in those late
game situations. They're better versed than every other team in
the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think it's totally fair. There's a lot there, so
full disclosure. Zach Robinson's ZC of the Atlanta Falcons, really
good friend of mine, used to be with the Rams,
play quarterback in Oklahoma State stud dude, and I will
point out, like, if we're being fair and I'm only
going to dry parallel to my own situation, I'm inexperienced,
(09:14):
Like I just we had our first practice of the year,
like official practice of the year today, and like I'm not.
I know the nuts and bolts of how I want
to coach and how I want to play. Coach a
lot of games, but in the building of a program
and the things you have to hit on and the
building up to teaching guys things that they don't know,
you can't assume that they know. Like, I'm an experience,
so I have to lean on people, and I still
have a relatively inexperience. Don't have like a fifty year
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year vet. I don't have an Andy Reid, right, And
so Andy Reid has seen these things a million times
over and he coaches like it and his team plays
like it, and there's an ease to it, and they've
also seen success. Whether or not Rashid Rice has been
a part of that success previously in the big moments
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or past or not, is that they have You have
a coach who's done it, you have a quarterback who's
done it. You get some players who have done it,
and there's almost an arrogance to like, we're going to
figure it out and that's only time. And some failure
and a lot of success can kind of teach you that.
But I also think that it's just amazing to see
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these escapes and how many things. And I would also
tell you that the point you made was a good
win kick the field goal, because the fear of Pat Mahomes,
it's a real feel. He's a great player. There's no
other way to explain the incredible amount of team success
and individual but mostly team success they've had for the
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past couple of years because his numbers haven't been out
of this world in the regular season, a lot of
turnovers and you know, kind of uneven play if you will.
It's not like he's set the world on fire in
any of the past maybe three or four years. But
at the end of the game, you do have that
fear like you had a fear of Brady, like you
have fear of Aaron Rodgers, like you have a fear
(11:01):
of Peyton Manning, Like don't give them the ball with
a chance to win the game, like last week is
the example. All fine I do. Again, I'm not saying
that there's anything wrong with him, but like, this is
not the Chiefs offense with Tyreek Hill, This is not
Travis Kelcey is not the guy he was last year
and definitely wasn't isn't close to the guy he was
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two years ago. Like he looks old, he looks coverable,
whereas he was kind of uncoverable, especially when with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I think that people oftentimes react in away. Here's I'm
gonna give you a sports parallel for this time of
year that I think for you, especially Dan will work
and Jason will work for you as well. When the
Yankees had Marion Rivera the swings in the fifth, especially
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the sixth and seventh inning, guys came up and they're
the patience that they would have for the Yankees and
trying wearing down the starting pitcher completely evaporated because they
knew that Moe was coming in and you felt like
nobody beats that guy, right, that just felt like a formality,
(12:15):
you know, good night, good luck, drive home safely. You know,
That's how it was. And I think that squere we
are with the Chiefs, whether it's real or imagined, you're
so hesitant to just do the right thing. Like read
the game. The Chiefs scored nine points in the third quarter,
not like they had lighten up the scoreboard. They got
one talented wide receiver, Travis Kelsey is still going to
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catch the football, but he's a shell of the guy
he used to be. And they have no running game
and they're just not the same as they have had been.
And yet you played as if, holy hell, if we
kicked this field goal, we're signing ourselves up to lose
a game. And I just don't think that's the case.
You have the new kickoff rule, which you could have
pinned them deep all different points. But this is not
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me in any way saying the Chiefs stink. Do they
get a call? Yeah, it's Kansas basketball in many ways too,
where just like you almost think they're gonna get a call.
Even when they don't get a call, it's like there
was a really bad roughing call on both teams on
successive drives. But for whatever reason, it feels like the
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Chiefs always get the college Like, no, it's actually even So.
This is a roundabout way of pointing out something we
all saw, we all feel, and I think everybody in
the NFL feels like there isn't really an explanation other
than they just know they're gonna win and the other
team knows they're gonna lose, and it ends up playing
out that way more often than not. And I'm sorry,
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I'm I'm pausing, and that should be your time to
get in. This is my apology to you. But you're right,
like the Ravens didn't really do that. They caught the
ball in the end zone with the toe on the line.
But then you're watching like Chiefs again, and then last
week with the with the pick six that's called back
the chief sick in And it's just a feeling, and
it's the opposite feeling of what it's like to be
(14:09):
a Charger fan. Jason and I were talking this morning,
We're like, are you kidding me? Both tackles out. You know,
finally got a competent coach, and apparently the Charger's curse
is carries over to new coaching staffs, even when they
play super physical football. It's the opposite feeling. You're sitting
there watching, You're like, we're gonna lose this game, are we? Yep?
(14:32):
You know I know that everybody points out the Colorado
Hail Mary, But to me, I watched an end of
first half Baylor has to tackle at like the forty
five yard line. The Colorado. Kid looked like he was down,
but he stayed on his feet and Baylor just stopped playing.
Kid runs in for a touchdown. It's like, I don't
want to say loser mentality, but just if you haven't
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done it with that group, they don't know how to
do it. And even though there's some new pieces to
this group, the Chiefs just know how to win and
find a way. And everyone walks away going like, wait,
how'd that happen? I don't know. There's a fourth down
call here, he could have kicked the field goal. There
as a fourth and one stop, there was a I
(15:16):
don't really know. Oh the Chiefs good. I guess they win.
It's a very very weird sports thing in that winners
do win.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Can I say one thing?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You say anything you want to say, that's.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Okay, your point about Zach Robinson. And this is where
I think the Falcons just kind of felt that they
were pot committed, not on the drive at the end
of the game, but on the previous drive, and they
should have kicked the field goal to get within two.
They went for it on fourth and two at the
eighteen yard line with six minutes left and got it,
and it was probably that was probably the time to
(15:54):
kick the field goal. But you think fourth and two
were down here, because Doug, I know I've this tea
one hundred times, but I cannot say it enough. The
Chiefs working the clock are a machine. When there's six
minutes left in the game, they will milk that thing.
They will get eleven yards on their three plays and
move the chains and you will never see the football back.
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And I think that's what the Falcons thought at that time,
that even with six minutes left in the game and
the timeouts that they have, we got to score a
touchdown here. So when they ended up going for it
the first time, they took two more minutes off the clock.
Now there's four minutes left, and you feel like you
have to go for it on fourth down the first
time around, And that's where they kind of felt pot committed,
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because if you weren't going to kick it earlier, you
really can't kick it that second time. And that's where
I think they got stuck on not kicking the first
field goal. But that's what the Kansas City Chiefs do
to you. Now, all of that stuff made the Falcons
made those make those decisions because of what the Chiefs
have done previously, and I don't think you get that
with thirty one other teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Parallel.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, twenty four outs, you don't have twenty seven. You
have twenty four outs to get your runs. Yep, just
like this, you have fifty four minutes to win the game.
You don't have you don't have sixty because if they
have the football at the end, they are gonna milk
the clock. They are so good at it, so good.
Last night they ended up getting a Falcons kind of
stop and got the football back. But that doesn't happen
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a lot of the times. Chiefs are usually magnificent in
those situations.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Jaset, what's it like to watch.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
The Chiefs? I think that there's a You said this
last year about two teams. You said that the Caleb
Williams USC Trojans like to play with their food. You
said that Pat Mahomes likes to play with this food.
I think that what the last season, in three games
has shown is that the Chiefs have been figured out.
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He's not playing with his food. They've just taken away
his options. He said after the game last night, they're
taking away Kelsey. So I don't think it's a matter
of playing with the food. Is that they've been figured out.
Andy Reid needs to figure out a way to counter that.
And in the meantime, they got a great defense. I
don't think any any of us in this room are
going to argue the fact that the Chiefs won the
(18:13):
Super Bowl last year because of their defense and their
clutch quarterback.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
But yeah, it's a weird one and I have zero
faith that the Chargers are going to beat them this
week with Herbert or not.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, h wild weekend, man, you guys have a good weekend.
It's good. I will I will tell you that. The
other thing that happened this weekend is fall arrived, and
you got Dan can speak to this because he grew
up in the Midwest, right, Jay stew I don't know
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if you know obviously Sam, who's out, he's a little
bit under the weather on the weather today and it's time,
you know, growing up in Iowa, he can speak to it, right.
It's it's an amazing thing when it happens. Usually happens
like around the first of September, but had a little
bit of Indian summer, Like just you walk outside and
the air feels different. It smells different, the breeze is different,
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the temperature is different. And the one thing we've had
over the past I don't know, six or seven years,
is when we get to fall, the Chiefs find a
way to figure things out and everybody else, everybody else
kind of collapses around them. We do have some breaking news,
breaking news, Get sport, Doug.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
This falls into your lab.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Brett McMurphy, your buddy from the Action Network, the first
to report that Gonzaga is going to be leaving the
West Coast Conference to join the new PAC twelve. So
this move would be I believe taken place in twenty
twenty six. But Gonzaga leaving the West Coast Conference to
join the PAC twelve. This after Memphis, South Florida, UTSA,
and Tulane decided to stay in the American Athletic Conference.
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But Gonzaga is leaving the West Coast Conference.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I have some thoughts on that I'll share with you
later on in the show.
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a great wild weekend baseball races heating up, and as
we told you it would happen. Told you what happened.
Shoeyo Tani fifty for fifty. You guys know there's somebody
(20:55):
else going forty forty crazy though, But Shohyo Tani, I
maybe we'll have a discussion on a slower day when
there's not as many things to discuss. Is there any
conversation he's the best player ever to play baseball, and
I don't think there is. But regardless of that, that's
just simply obviously a playoff. Pennant races and wildcard races
(21:16):
throughout baseball. Wild weekend in college football, the miracle in Boulder, Colorado,
Some of the their craziness in the college game, Michigan
not even throwing the football and running it over and
through USC to a win. Got stuff there. And then
of course the NFL Sunday, which was interesting. I don't
know if it's a great, but very interesting. All part
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of our own kind of personal snapshot is what we
call love and hey.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Meet these player hays.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, every Monday hearing the Dog Gotlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio, we play for you a poor oh sorry,
play for you. We recap a portion of the weekend
that we loved and then we hated. So a resident
lover it's Dan Byer Dan, what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Well, Doug, I'll tell you what. In a league that
strives on parody, I love that my Seahawks are three
and oh and I know I'm gonna get some pushback
and say, well.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Who have you beaten?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh? You're baden?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, Broncos, Patriots and Dolphins. Should I remind you there
are eleven Super Bowl championships super Bowl titles combined with
those three franchises.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That was that? Is that really your pushback? I know?
You're like smiling when you say that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, I joke.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Dan Reno is not walking through that door. Tom Brady's
not walking John l. Lary Bird is not walking through
that door.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
But I will say this, on a schedule yesterday, where
you saw the Broncos go to Tampa and take out
the Buccaneers, where you had a crazy comeback with the
Rams beating the forty nine ers, there are outcomes that
surprised many in the National Football League. I'm sure we're
gonna get to at some point in this segment. The
Seahawks have done what they've needed to do, win the
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games they are supposed to win. They probably will not
have any three easier games than the games that they've
had on their schedule here. But again, Buccaneers could have
been three and oh. All they had to do is
beat the Broncos of the Seahawks beat in Week one,
and they couldn't do it yesterday. So I'll take the
Seahawks being three and oh and having a two game
lead in the NFC West while I can.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I want to mention one thing about that game, and
I encourage our listeners to go back and watch it.
Find it on Twitter whoever you gotta get it. The
bomb to DK metcalf in that game was severely underthrown.
DK had beaten his DBS by twenty yards and Gino
Smith underthrew it. DK had to slow down almost to
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a stop to catch the ball. That allowed two professional
defensive backs who probably run four three forties to catch
up to DK. He catches the ball and then somehow
just bursts another fifteen yards into the end zone without
them catching it. Was like a cartoon or like a
video game. He caught it and then you push the
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button that makes you go really fast into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
It's funny you say that, because on the Sunday show
I do with Carrie Rhodes, this play happened as we
were on the air, and he immediately just said, yeah,
they're not going to catch him. Yeah, that he was gone.
Actually was before we got on the show. That's why
he said that we were getting ready.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
As soon as soon as he caught it and he
started to take off, he goes, it's over. Good observation,
Jason three and zero. I'll take it, Ryan, what do
you got?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well?
Speaker 8 (24:50):
I love the fact that Gino Smith was on my
bench in my Fantasy League but that's not what I
want to talk about. I despise the forty nine ers
and I love the fact that they lost during football season,
and me and my family all we do is talk trash,
and I was talking a lot of trash when the
forty nine ers lost. So whenever a Niner team loses,
it's a good day. Plus I think Rock Party is overrated,
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and that's all I.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Have to say. He was good yesterday though, he was
really good. But did he win?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
But if Ronnie Bell could catch, they probably would have
fair point, so.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Fair to say he earned another contract. Dan and I
were Dan and I were on a group text with our.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Friend John Ramos good and called Doug. By the way,
I'm sorry, that's very good.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You guys didn't even get that one. Did yet? I said,
what about Bell and BIV? Nobody gets that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Bad?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, Ben, never never trust the big button to smile.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's what you wanted to vote, But yeah we got it. Yep,
uh so good. I'm sorry, Jason.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I sent a text to John to Dan and John Ramos,
our friend John Ramos, because those tweets of the home
crowd at so far with all the red it was
a forty nine er home game. Here we are how
many years now, six or seven years into the Rounds
returned to Los Angeles. They've been to a super Bowl,
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and they won a super Bowl. This is an established
team with an exciting young head coach and a good team,
and they're still giving away home games to forty nine ers.
It's disgusting, it really is. But I have to give
him credit for the win yesterday for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Okay, can I give you what I loved? I just
I love Joshypel's speech. I did. I love Josh Hypel's speech.
You know, that's the reality to it, So just I
love that he didn't make it about him, but he
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processed those emotions so much. And for people who don't know,
Joshipel was quarterback at Oklahoma they won a national championship.
There's a freaking statue of him out front, and Bob
steps fired him. And I don't even know if Bob
Stoops was wrong to let him go. That you know,
at some point in time, you got to make some
tough changes, but it just it feels wrong. It's a
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hard thing about coaching your alma mater, really really hard thing.
So I don't know that's that's uh, that's my love.
I I you know, it was a tough weekend for
the state of Oklahoma, but Oklahoma Oklham State both losing
home games, one to Utah new member of the Big Twelve,
and one to Tennessee as Oh, you moved in the SEC.
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And I think Oklahoma's in for a tough year. But
I don't know. The Josh Hipel thing. If you haven't
seen the speech, you got to check that one out,
because he held it in, held it in, held in,
and then it was pretty obviously emotional, and I don't know,
I can't imagine the emotions of it. You know, like
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we're playing my first game at Oklahoma State. They didn't
fire me, they didn't hire me. But I mean again,
like it just gives me more gratitude for for Green Bay,
but for a guy that was actually there and won
a national championship, Like I was a good player, he
won a national championship his quarterback in two thousand. I
loved it. I loved it all right, let's turn to
the tables, let's go to let's kind of hate. What'd
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you hate from the weekend? Hm m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Uh. Dan
On Jason Stewart, You're you're the best for the hate.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
This is what I'll do. I'm gonna do a Instagram
live right after the show today to do what I
loved from this segment. So we're gonna shove it. We
skip me, but I'm going to do an Instagram live
right for the show.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I thought you did you.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I thought it was the M forty nine ers thing
that you love that you were sending too.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
I thought that was your DK Metcalf thing too.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna save my thoughts on
Malik Willis. Now let's get to what I hated, because
this is very vitriolic. Coming into the game yesterday, the
Panthers had given up seventy three points in two games,
and that's a low total because the Panthers played the
Chargers and the Chargers just stopped scoring in the fourth
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quarter of their game, so they probably could have given
up one hundred points in the first two games of
the weekend. The Raiders were coming off this amazing win
on the road in Baltimore. The Panthers made a quarterback change.
You wouldn't think that would impact too much of the game.
I think it moved the line two points.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You hate that, No, this is what I hate, Okay.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
I hate that I had the Raiders of my Survivor poll.
I hate that the Raiders cost me a massive amount
of money yesterday. I hate that they didn't show up,
that they could not score on a Panther team that
had given up seventy three points in two weeks. Now
you could say the Raiders scored twenty two yesterday. No,
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they had a couple of late trash touchdowns. That doesn't count.
They let Andy Dalton look like Joe Montana.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
That wasn't Joe Montana.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
They made him look like an incarnate of Joe Montana
and Dan Marino. This is Andy Dalton. The Raiders should
be embarrassed. And that was a home game for the Raiders.
If I'm a Raider fan right now, I'm probably turning
in my credentials and I'm joining the Charger fans. If
I'm a Raider fan right now, I'm embarrassed. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Can we all like there's a bigger discussion here. It
couldn't so. One of the reasons that there was such
a push back to having a team in Vegas was
the nightlife right? And again I don't know who went
out and who didn't go out, but that felt like
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a game. You know what that felt like? What was
the other boxer that Butch killed in pulp fiction where
he never laced up his gloves? You know, the fix
was in. Butcher was supposed to take a dive, He
didn't take a dive, and then the guy died in
the ring. That was the Raiders. I don't know this
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for a fact, okay, but in just in terms of
final score, back come, everyone says Carolina has no players,
Caroline's not very good. And Andy Dalton was a damn
good quarterback for a long time. He's turned himself into
the consummate backup. He's good. This just has to be
a game where the Raiders didn't prepare well enough for it.
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And you know, it's it's one of those things where
those old school coaches they get you to you know,
it's like we always use to make fun of Lou
Holtz saying like, you know, shid now, it's a heck
of a football. Dam they cut me there, bacon, And
you're like, yeah, no they can't. But you have to
convince your team to prepare as if they're playing the
eighty five Bears, and he couldn't do that. He couldn't,
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he couldn't, couldn't do that.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I'll also say this because I pose this question honestly.
If we honestly say who would you rather have as
your quarterback, Gardner Minshew or Andy Dalton, and I think
the answer is Andy Dalton. For as much as we
love Minshew mania, there is a portion of that. For
as great as it was last week, Gardner Minshew will
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bring your team back from you know, down ten in Baltimore,
I think that took a lot out of them. I
felt like they won a super Bowl like game last week,
and then you come home and you feel like it's
a home opener, but really the bigger high.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Was last week. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Sure, And how do you prepare, Like, if you're the Raiders,
you can't watch any Bryce Young film because that is
a relevant So I think that they were really difficult
to prepare for Andy Dalton because you didn't see Andy
Dalton and Dave Canalis's offense.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah yeah, I actually I actually understand that one more
so than some of the other ones. So I understand
your anger there JAYSU. But I think that was a
game of they weren't prepared when you want to call
a letdown game, or they didn't take it seriously or whatever.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
Right, why didn't they tell me beforehand that that they
weren't prepared. I could have changed my pick.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's true, they should have. This is Jason was stuck
on this pick. Doug.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
With this stuff, I go back and forth, and I'm
wishy washing. I talked myself out of stuff. Jason was
locked in for this all week long, all week long.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
It's one thing to it's one thing to pick a
Survivor pick and be pissed off at the team. But
like when you pick the team that you hate, so
you're you're essentially rooting for the team you hate and
they still lose, it just feels it feels even more hollow.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Okay, what about you there, Ryan?
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Yeah, so I'm a Raider fan, so let's talk about this.
I don't care about Jason's hatred. I do not care.
There's only one nation, and yesterday my team, the Raider Nation,
played like trash. And they always do stuff like this.
They go out and beat teams they have no business beating,
like the Ravens and then they lose the teams they
have no business losing too. Like the Panthers, they choose
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Jason's point. They did make Dalton look like Joel Montana.
I don't know what they were thinking. It was somebody
I would say, you know, you know what, I would say,
Tom Brady. But Tom Brady cheats. But and I don't think,
and I don't think the Panthers cheated. Raiders just didn't
come to play. And I'm kicked off. I either turned
my phone off, That's how mad I was. So that's
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all I gotta say. I'm kicked off. And by the way,
I will never become a Chargers fan. I'd rather drink bleach.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well that's a good way to get rid of COVID.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
That's harsh, jeez, thugs on fire first belve of devote
all this.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
As if I was a lady they be. They called
me satiny.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Did you were you up all that?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Are you wired from the first practice? Or did you
get good sleep last night?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I got? I mean, did you hear the sleep number read?
I got great sleep last night? Totally factual? No, I
got like five six strong hours. But that's after being
up for thirty straight hours. So yeah, no, I'm I'm good.
I'm you know, I just I'm I personally take great
delight in just crushing our dudes. And then at the
(35:42):
end of our practice, I had everybody coaches included to
a five minute wall st and the coaches were like,
what five minutes if we gotta do it, Like, yep,
we're all in this together. Guys are dying. I mean
my legs are fried too, but it was it was
fun to do. So yeah, I'm in a mood. I'm
not gonna lie. I'm in a bit of a mood.
(36:02):
What a good weekend, What a really good weekend. Plus
I had a really good hung out with my son.
Yesterday we went to Wild Wings and we finally like
Central time Zone. I'm convinced is the time zone for
wild Wings because the early window is twelve o'clock. So
we went like twelve fifteen. And here's another like b
(36:25):
Dubs or any sports bar. NFL fan College towns and
we were in Stillwater. College towns are amazing on a
Sunday because it's not really NFL territory, so there's places
to sit, whereas if you're in La or if you're
in San fran or in Chicago or even in Green Bay.
Like on an NFL weekend, sports bars are packed. College
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Saturday not as much so, so we nailed it. A
college town. Go to a sports bar on a Sunday
in the Central time zone and you get all those
games at once. So all of that combined with a
great I think five and a half hour stretched last night. Yeah,
I'm and making everybody do five minutes of wall sits.
I'm good. Anything else, anybody else want to get anything
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off their chest, anything else you hate from the weekend.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
I just hated that Baylor's defense was called victory cigar
on that hill Mary pass which I saw running around.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Why weren't they in a zone? Why wasn't there like
three guys back there and just in a zone? I
don't know what are they doing?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
They were all around Travis Hunter. That's what Hunter said. Awful.
I mean good for Colorado, you know, but gil.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Been bad for David Randa. I like Dave Randa a lot.
He had a winning really well he the losing has
been bad. And yeah, yeah, all right, that's loving hate.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
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It It's Doug Gallip Show, It's Fox Sports Radio. It's
a Monday. Did you guys see he was playing next
next week Monday Night Football? Rough one Dolphins, Titans. Now
you got Jacksonville oh and two taking on Buffalo. I
think Jacksonville is better than their record, but not much.
Cincinnati oh in two took it on Washington in the Natty.
(38:18):
So you have two teams that we both think should
be around late in the AFC playoffs. One though off
to anho to two start, one a chance to get
the three oh which is you look statistically a great
shout at making the playoffs. I thought two cool things
did happen. You talk about the Tennessee Volunteers and and
uh and the Green Bay Packers going into Tennessee getting
(38:40):
a win. There was one parallel, dann By. You know
what that parallel is, right, I mean both teams were
led by somebody fired by the other side, and they
got a win. Malik Willis comes in and you know
thirteen of nineteen, I mean win because of him, But
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they didn't lose. You know, he did not put them
in position to lose. And you know, Malik Willis, of
course was a third round draft pick at the Tennessee Titans,
was their starting quarterback. And you know, coaching change, GM change,
and look, he wouldn't. I don't think he's great anyway.
I don't think anybody thinks like he's proven he's a
starting quarterback. But it still is pretty awesome. And then Saturday,
(39:23):
Josh Hipel, who won a Heisman trophy, led Oklahoma to
a national championship and then coached their quarterbacks and their
offense and was let go by Bob Stoops. There's a
statue of him outside of the stadium and they fired him.
(39:45):
And Tennessee came in their first SEC game against or
Oklahoma's first SEC game with Tennessee visiting. It was not
nearly as close as the final score. And look, we
can all talk in terms and say the right things.
And whenever I thought Hipel's postgame speech was awesome, right
(40:07):
awesome because he talked about all the things and it
didn't it's not that you know, it wasn't about it
was never about me, But I do appreciate you when
it for me. And then the guys gave him the
game ball we'll get to that upcoming. I mean that like, look,
we're all human beings, and when some place that's special
(40:28):
to you tells you your services are no longer needed.
That one hurts bad and then to lead another parallel
football program in and to beat their tails, that feels
really good. Feels really good. Let's welcome in TJ. Huschman Zada,
who joins us now and the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Foxport Trade. You can hear up on game on Saturdays
(40:50):
here on fox Portrader Plus download the podcast. Let's start
with the Chiefs. How do you explain how beatable they
look and yet how unbeatable they seem to be at
the end of the day.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
I mean, the Chiefs are a good team, and when
you're a good team, that's what happens. You show some vulnerability,
but ultimately you're always gonna find a way to win.
And I mean we talked about this after they beat
the Bengals. They get calls to go in their favor,
but when you're a good team, you get those calls
(41:26):
you get I mean, that was passing appearance in the
end zone that would have given the Falcons first and
goal from the one yard line. You think they scored,
but then the Chiefs would have had time to probably
go down and score, which they probably would have. And
so the Chiefs they just make plays when it's needed.
It's fourth in inches, the Falcons had a chance, they didn't.
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That's what good teams do. And they are such a
complete team because if it's not Mahomes and the offense,
Chris Jones and that defense has shown us that they
can bring the game home as well.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Got them show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let's get her on the league. Is Justin Fields good enough?
Speaker 6 (42:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
I don't think any of us would say he's great?
Is he good enough?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Here? He doug straight up and down. Justin Fields is
a prime example of being on the right team, the
right fit, the right organization. It's a prime example. He
couldn't play in Chicago. It was what is going to happen? Oh,
(42:35):
Justin Fields is a bus No Justin Field's development in Chicago.
So you got to give Mike Tomlin Arthur Smith in
the first Stevens organization at Son of Credit, he's their
starting quarterback. I know Russell's hurt, and I know they
waiting on Russell.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I don't think they're waiting. I don't think they're waiting
on Russell for one second.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
No, he You know what, you know what needs to
happen is Mike Tomlin should just tell Justin Fields and
that team he's a starting quarterback. He'll play better knowing that.
But Justin Fields man that his story? Now? Is it
just you got to get a Steelers a ton of
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credit for this?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Okay, let's go kind of around around the league. Is
as we continue to look at you know, three weeks
into the season, how do you explain the Carolina Panthers
inserting Andy Dalton in putting thirty six up on the Raiders. Raiders, now,
by the way, talking about a quarterback change, how do
you explain though Carolina Andy Dalton good player for a
(43:41):
long time. I know, obviously quarterback with the Bengals, but
the dramatic change in their outcome, Uh, that is.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
It's really really crazy how well Andy Dalton played. Not
surprising though Andy Dalton is as been a pretty good quarterback,
but to see Bryce struggle so much and then Andy
Dalton you do that on a Raiders defense? Like the
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Raiders is they're not just a average like they're one
of the better defenses at least I thought in the
league can rush a passer good on the back end,
and so man Andy Dalton was phenomenal. But it is
an indictment on Bryce because he could barely throw for
one hundred yards and Andy Dalton threw for three hundred.
(44:37):
I think Bryce needs a change of scenery. It's confidence.
Even after that, it's hard like anytime you fail. We
all lose our conference does. But when you see somebody
go in there and play at that level and they win,
that has to be a blow to where you say, man,
(44:58):
am I that bad? And so I think he needs
to get up out of there. If they're smart, does
just trade them, cut their losses and move forward.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
That's the voice that tjes just Benzata for a Pro
Bowl Wide receivers join us in the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. What about the Raiders a
short time ago, you know, they had a press conference
and I thought it was interesting, right, I guess that
you know, you got a young head coach comes up
and says not ruling out a quarterback change, which means
(45:30):
there's going to be a quarterback change. Does Aidan O'Connell
change the Raiders at all.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
I'm not too certain of that. You know, Minshew is
going to be a guy at he can create time
in a pocket with his legs. He's not really running
the ball, but he's gonna scramble around to find guys
open the throw. Whereas aide O'Connell, she's your prototypical early
two thousands pocket passer. And the Raiders last time, I say,
(45:56):
I don't believe their old line is the greatest, and
so you're gonna put unquote almost a statue back there
the old line better, black better. They didn't lose that
game yesterday because of Gardner Minshew. They lost that game
because the defense didn't play how many thought they would play,
how I thought they would play. But when you do
(46:18):
say that, you're right, Doug, we're considering it's probably gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, it's not probably it is gonna happen. Malik Naghbors
makes two touchdown grabs. One was just absolutely spectacular. How
do we look now at uh at Danny Dimes?
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Hey, Daniel Jones played well. I was watching some of
that game. Man. He played well, he really did. But
I'm I'm a really big believer in Brian David was
a head coach man. This dude is so underrated as
a coach because of the deficiency of Daniel Jones at
times and his accuracy problems. But when Daniel Jones is
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ain't on time for the most part being accurate, the
way Dabele can design and scheme guy to open it
and scheme up plays that defense. I thought the defense
played very well that d line. I mean it was
pressure the whole game and so. But Daniel Jones played
well with league neighbors. Then if somebody's LSU receivers, man,
(47:24):
they come in the league and they just hit the
ground rolling ready to go.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, they definitely do. Jerry Jones said, hey, we didn't
have the money to get Derrick Henry. Derek Henry signed
one year eight million dollars. Instead, of course, he went
out and got Zeke for the league minimum. Granted he
had Tony Pollard and you know, Derrick Henry's a different dude.
What are your thoughts on what's happened to the Dallas
(47:50):
Cowboys in recent weeks.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
I said before the season started, the Dallas Cowboys, we're
going to start one and two. I really I thought
they would lose the even beat the Saints and lose
through the Ravens. Obviously I was wrong with the first two,
but I mean he had the money to pay Derrick Henry.
They didn't want Derrick Canry. Just say it, you have
the money to pay him. We didn't want them. We
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didn't get helpless. Just be honest. But when you you know,
the Cowboys knew they were going to pay Dak Prescott.
And when you pay a quarterback to amount of money
that Dak is being paid, the game is going to
go through him each and every game. That's why they
didn't want Derrick Henry. That's why they didn't pay Derrick Henry.
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Dak being a sixty million dollar quarterback, and he made
around at it towards the end of the game. You know,
it got real interesting. But Dak, the game has to
be on his shoulders each and every time because that's
the contract that you want, that's the contract that you have.
You got to go get it.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
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Speaker 6 (49:06):
You the best man. I'm out here in Cincinnati getting
ready to go to the game, baby, as a fan
you and as a fan yeah, I mean what else
am I going as?
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't know that. Where are you going to sit here?
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Oh? I'm sitting in the suite, and sweet sitting in
the box. I'm sitting in the box. I'm just you know,
over here talking with some of my commanders. I'm friends here,
people in the front office and coaches and stuff. Just
talking to them.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
All right, bro, we'll talk. We'll catch up soon.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
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we need to start with I think we need to
start with last night, It's Chiefs win over the Falcons
Chiefs because when you're watching that game early on, you're like, oh, yeah,
Falcons got this one, and then you're in factor in
your brain. Okay, well maybe not because you know it's
Kirk Cousins is primetime. Kirk Cousins and Kirk Cousins primetime.
(01:15):
Kirk Cousins is a bad thing. And you know, for
the third consecutive game, and Pat Mahomes in the first
half kind of loose with the ball. His interception guy
was open. I think yeah, I mean I believe that
Kelsey was open. I think it was Kelsey in the
end zone. He just underthrew it, gets picked off and
(01:38):
you're looking up and then the Chiefs managed to get
to fourteen thirteen at the half, and he's just like, well,
the Chiefs are just kind of hanging around doing their thing.
They don't have a great running game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And if you were going to tell me that Carson
Steele was gonna what a great name, though, Carson Steele,
It's gonna lead down in rushing with seventy two yards,
like congratulations, yeah, Rushie Rice, As we told you. The
only reason they haven't gotten rid ofver she Rice, who
was on camera walking away from the scene of a
(02:15):
car chase whatever and the car crash that other people
were badly hurt in the only reason he hasn't been
suspended because he's their best player, best offensive weapon outside
of Pat Mahomes. And like for a third consecutive week,
you walk away going like, are they amy good? I
don't know, but keep winning games. Here's Pat Mahomes afterwards.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
We haven't played good. I mean really, all three games
we've been able to win. I mean that speaks to
the character of the team, the grid, how we've been
in these situations before. But I'll speak especially offensively and
me myself, I feel like I haven't played very well.
And that's not a stats thing. I just feel like
I'm missing opportunities whenever they're out there and not throwing
the ball in the exact spot I want it to
(02:57):
be yet, So it's about me getting back to my
fund mentals, putting our guys in the right position, and
then we got to execute at a higher level offensively.
If teams are gonna make us drive the field, we
have to prove that we're able.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
And I'm sure we'll get a lot of the same
this next week with the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Here's Rahie Morris when he's asked about a late non
no call on Kyle Pits and the end zone probably
should have been called past interference.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
They didn't see the pass interference and look like us
clearly passive affairs on the replay.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I like my money. Let I like my money, But
Arthur Blank gives me you don't have to get that.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Very smart enough to be aware enough to talk about officials.
They made the call or they didn't make the call.
And it is what it is. We got to we
had a chance to win the football game when the
last play the game, they did so I guess. Look,
there's some some coaching stuff that you have to get to.
There's some parts that you absolutely wonder about, and then
(03:55):
there's just a it does I actually, you know, I
find time when we have a podcast that we do
an hour of the show of if you haven't downloaded,
download review download podcasts, just typing Doug Gottlieb, and part
of it will do you know what does the Fox say?
Where we play portion of what everybody else has said
all day long? And we didn't use cow Hurt today,
(04:17):
but I did hear him or maybe saw his thing
on the volume about how it feels like the Patriots.
It does. It does. It's a completely dissimilar but totally
similar thing to the Patriots in that it doesn't make
any sense to me at all how they keep winning
these games except for the fact that the old winners win.
(04:38):
They just find a way. You know, they're just okay,
Like are they what are they good at? Like I
don't know. I mean, Chris Jones is really really good
and the defense is good. It's not great, it's good,
but they hang around, hang around, and he finds a
way to score enough points like I don't. It's whereas
(04:59):
we when you'd watch the Patriots play and this was
like a fifteen year time where you're just like, they're okay,
their defense is okay, their offensive skilled, they have a
guy here or there, and then they would end up
with twelve or thirteen wins and we would all say, well,
the AFC AFC East stinks. Yeah, that part to it.
I just I'm gonna tell you honestly, it does. I'm
(05:22):
gonna agree with Cowherd, which I don't always do, and
I will call out when I don't do it. I'm
gonna agree with Cowherd. It does feel like the Pats
in that there is no reasonable way of explaining how
they win all these games when I mean, heck, he
said it, and he said it well, had even played well,
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haven't even played well, and yet here they are three
and now, whereas I have some other teams that have
played well that are one and two. Some teams are
zero and three, couple or two and one Jason Buyer,
I mean, can you is that help put it together
(06:06):
for somebody who didn't watch last night's game, because I was,
I watched an extensive part. I watched every play last
night's game, and I remember watching the first half going like, man,
maybe Atlantic could win this thing, and then he ends
up being the pass to the same well, I mean
the past I say, Pats, the Chiefs do the same.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
This is the part that I would disagree with Cowherd
or disagree with you on saying it feels like the Patriots.
It feels like the Patriots. When the Chiefs go and
win the Super Bowl again, or when you think they're
out of it, they're back in it. But the Patriots
would kick the crap out of some teams. They would,
and maybe maybe there'd be a regular season game where
they'd falter a little.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But this Chiefs team again.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Week one, a toe's out of bounds, We two bailed
out by a pass interference penalty, allowing them to kick
the game winning field goal. And then last night getting
a fourth and one stop as the Falcons failed to
kick a field goal earlier on the drive where you
had the pass interference that wasn't called. So those are
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Houdini like escapes, and two of those are at home.
Granted they're against teams that you think you would play
in the playoffs and face against the playoffs, but there
were times the Patriots just put it on teams and
that's not Kansas City. And I think that your analysis
of we're not sure what they're great at is very
fair because the running game is not the same without
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Isaiah pa check out, not that they would commit to
it anyway. Travis Kelcey hasn't been as much of a factor.
Rashi Rice is their weapon. But what they are good
at is what you said. They're winning, Yeah, winning games.
Knowing late game situations. Do you think the Chiefs would
have had the play call the Falcons ran on fourth
and one? Probably not, No, that wouldn't have been the case.
And to give the Chiefs the credit that they deserve
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on that play completely blew the Falcons off the line
of scrimmage. So whatever play the Falcons ran, they weren't
going to succeed. But Kansas City understands it. Kansas City
had a game last year and I remember this, Doug
because it was Week seventeen, and I lost in fantasy
football because Harrison Butcker kicked six field goals that game.
(08:17):
Last not the Atlanta Falcons are like, now we need
a touchdown. We need to do this. You kick two
field goals, You give yourself a chance to at least
win the game. Now, maybe they did have a chance
at the end, but I would rather take Young Wayku
kicking those two field goals and going and hoping your
defense gets a stop, especially at home. Maybe you don't
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get that pass interference call like the Chiefs did last week.
Maybe you could play tougher on defense. But man, they
just figure out a way to win in those late
game situations. They're better versed than every other team in
the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I think it's totally fair. There's a lot there, so
full disclosure. Zach Robinson's ZC of the Atlanta Falcons, really
good friend of mine, used to be with the Rams,
play quarterback in Oklahoma State stud dude, and I will
point out, like, if we're being fair and I'm only
going to dry parallel to my own situation, I'm inexperienced,
(09:14):
Like I just we had our first practice of the year,
like official practice of the year today, and like I'm not.
I know the nuts and bolts of how I want
to coach and how I want to play. Coach a
lot of games, but in the building of a program
and the things you have to hit on and the
building up to teaching guys things that they don't know,
you can't assume that they know. Like, I'm an experience,
so I have to lean on people, and I still
have a relatively inexperience. Don't have like a fifty year
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year vet. I don't have an Andy Reid, right, And
so Andy Reid has seen these things a million times
over and he coaches like it and his team plays
like it, and there's an ease to it, and they've
also seen success. Whether or not Rashid Rice has been
a part of that success previously in the big moments
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or past or not, is that they have You have
a coach who's done it, you have a quarterback who's
done it. You get some players who have done it,
and there's almost an arrogance to like, we're going to
figure it out and that's only time. And some failure
and a lot of success can kind of teach you that.
But I also think that it's just amazing to see
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these escapes and how many things. And I would also
tell you that the point you made was a good
win kick the field goal, because the fear of Pat Mahomes,
it's a real feel. He's a great player. There's no
other way to explain the incredible amount of team success
and individual but mostly team success they've had for the
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past couple of years because his numbers haven't been out
of this world in the regular season, a lot of
turnovers and you know, kind of uneven play if you will.
It's not like he's set the world on fire in
any of the past maybe three or four years. But
at the end of the game, you do have that
fear like you had a fear of Brady, like you
have fear of Aaron Rodgers, like you have a fear
(11:01):
of Peyton Manning, Like don't give them the ball with
a chance to win the game, like last week is
the example. All fine I do. Again, I'm not saying
that there's anything wrong with him, but like, this is
not the Chiefs offense with Tyreek Hill, This is not
Travis Kelcey is not the guy he was last year
and definitely wasn't isn't close to the guy he was
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two years ago. Like he looks old, he looks coverable,
whereas he was kind of uncoverable, especially when with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I think that people oftentimes react in away. Here's I'm
gonna give you a sports parallel for this time of
year that I think for you, especially Dan will work
and Jason will work for you as well. When the
Yankees had Marion Rivera the swings in the fifth, especially
(11:54):
the sixth and seventh inning, guys came up and they're
the patience that they would have for the Yankees and
trying wearing down the starting pitcher completely evaporated because they
knew that Moe was coming in and you felt like
nobody beats that guy, right, that just felt like a formality,
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you know, good night, good luck, drive home safely. You know,
That's how it was. And I think that squere we
are with the Chiefs, whether it's real or imagined, you're
so hesitant to just do the right thing. Like read
the game. The Chiefs scored nine points in the third quarter,
not like they had lighten up the scoreboard. They got
one talented wide receiver, Travis Kelsey is still going to
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catch the football, but he's a shell of the guy
he used to be. And they have no running game
and they're just not the same as they have had been.
And yet you played as if, holy hell, if we
kicked this field goal, we're signing ourselves up to lose
a game. And I just don't think that's the case.
You have the new kickoff rule, which you could have
pinned them deep all different points. But this is not
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me in any way saying the Chiefs stink. Do they
get a call? Yeah, it's Kansas basketball in many ways too,
where just like you almost think they're gonna get a call.
Even when they don't get a call, it's like there
was a really bad roughing call on both teams on
successive drives. But for whatever reason, it feels like the
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Chiefs always get the college Like, no, it's actually even So.
This is a roundabout way of pointing out something we
all saw, we all feel, and I think everybody in
the NFL feels like there isn't really an explanation other
than they just know they're gonna win and the other
team knows they're gonna lose, and it ends up playing
out that way more often than not. And I'm sorry,
(13:46):
I'm I'm pausing, and that should be your time to
get in. This is my apology to you. But you're right,
like the Ravens didn't really do that. They caught the
ball in the end zone with the toe on the line.
But then you're watching like Chiefs again, and then last
week with the with the pick six that's called back
the chief sick in And it's just a feeling, and
it's the opposite feeling of what it's like to be
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a Charger fan. Jason and I were talking this morning,
We're like, are you kidding me? Both tackles out. You know,
finally got a competent coach, and apparently the Charger's curse
is carries over to new coaching staffs, even when they
play super physical football. It's the opposite feeling. You're sitting
there watching, You're like, we're gonna lose this game, are we? Yep?
(14:32):
You know I know that everybody points out the Colorado
Hail Mary, But to me, I watched an end of
first half Baylor has to tackle at like the forty
five yard line. The Colorado. Kid looked like he was down,
but he stayed on his feet and Baylor just stopped playing.
Kid runs in for a touchdown. It's like, I don't
want to say loser mentality, but just if you haven't
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done it with that group, they don't know how to
do it. And even though there's some new pieces to
this group, the Chiefs just know how to win and
find a way. And everyone walks away going like, wait,
how'd that happen? I don't know. There's a fourth down
call here, he could have kicked the field goal. There
as a fourth and one stop, there was a I
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don't really know. Oh the Chiefs good. I guess they win.
It's a very very weird sports thing in that winners
do win.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Can I say one thing?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You say anything you want to say, that's.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Okay, your point about Zach Robinson. And this is where
I think the Falcons just kind of felt that they
were pot committed, not on the drive at the end
of the game, but on the previous drive, and they
should have kicked the field goal to get within two.
They went for it on fourth and two at the
eighteen yard line with six minutes left and got it,
and it was probably that was probably the time to
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kick the field goal. But you think fourth and two
were down here, because Doug, I know I've this tea
one hundred times, but I cannot say it enough. The
Chiefs working the clock are a machine. When there's six
minutes left in the game, they will milk that thing.
They will get eleven yards on their three plays and
move the chains and you will never see the football back.
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And I think that's what the Falcons thought at that time,
that even with six minutes left in the game and
the timeouts that they have, we got to score a
touchdown here. So when they ended up going for it
the first time, they took two more minutes off the clock.
Now there's four minutes left, and you feel like you
have to go for it on fourth down the first
time around, And that's where they kind of felt pot committed,
(16:38):
because if you weren't going to kick it earlier, you
really can't kick it that second time. And that's where
I think they got stuck on not kicking the first
field goal. But that's what the Kansas City Chiefs do
to you. Now, all of that stuff made the Falcons
made those make those decisions because of what the Chiefs
have done previously, and I don't think you get that
with thirty one other teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Parallel.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, twenty four outs, you don't have twenty seven. You
have twenty four outs to get your runs. Yep, just
like this, you have fifty four minutes to win the game.
You don't have you don't have sixty because if they
have the football at the end, they are gonna milk
the clock. They are so good at it, so good.
Last night they ended up getting a Falcons kind of
stop and got the football back. But that doesn't happen
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a lot of the times. Chiefs are usually magnificent in
those situations.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Jaset, what's it like to watch.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
The Chiefs? I think that there's a You said this
last year about two teams. You said that the Caleb
Williams USC Trojans like to play with their food. You
said that Pat Mahomes likes to play with this food.
I think that what the last season, in three games
has shown is that the Chiefs have been figured out.
(17:52):
He's not playing with his food. They've just taken away
his options. He said after the game last night, they're
taking away Kelsey. So I don't think it's a matter
of playing with the food. Is that they've been figured out.
Andy Reid needs to figure out a way to counter that.
And in the meantime, they got a great defense. I
don't think any any of us in this room are
going to argue the fact that the Chiefs won the
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Super Bowl last year because of their defense and their
clutch quarterback.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
But yeah, it's a weird one and I have zero
faith that the Chargers are going to beat them this
week with Herbert or not.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, h wild weekend, man, you guys have a good weekend.
It's good. I will I will tell you that. The
other thing that happened this weekend is fall arrived, and
you got Dan can speak to this because he grew
up in the Midwest, right, Jay stew I don't know
(18:46):
if you know obviously Sam, who's out, he's a little
bit under the weather on the weather today and it's time,
you know, growing up in Iowa, he can speak to it, right.
It's it's an amazing thing when it happens. Usually happens
like around the first of September, but had a little
bit of Indian summer, Like just you walk outside and
the air feels different. It smells different, the breeze is different,
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the temperature is different. And the one thing we've had
over the past I don't know, six or seven years,
is when we get to fall, the Chiefs find a
way to figure things out and everybody else, everybody else
kind of collapses around them. We do have some breaking news,
breaking news, Get sport, Doug.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
This falls into your lab.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Brett McMurphy, your buddy from the Action Network, the first
to report that Gonzaga is going to be leaving the
West Coast Conference to join the new PAC twelve. So
this move would be I believe taken place in twenty
twenty six. But Gonzaga leaving the West Coast Conference to
join the PAC twelve. This after Memphis, South Florida, UTSA,
and Tulane decided to stay in the American Athletic Conference.
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But Gonzaga is leaving the West Coast Conference.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I have some thoughts on that I'll share with you
later on in the show.
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a great wild weekend baseball races heating up, and as
we told you it would happen. Told you what happened.
Shoeyo Tani fifty for fifty. You guys know there's somebody
(20:55):
else going forty forty crazy though, But Shohyo Tani, I
maybe we'll have a discussion on a slower day when
there's not as many things to discuss. Is there any
conversation he's the best player ever to play baseball, and
I don't think there is. But regardless of that, that's
just simply obviously a playoff. Pennant races and wildcard races
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throughout baseball. Wild weekend in college football, the miracle in Boulder, Colorado,
Some of the their craziness in the college game, Michigan
not even throwing the football and running it over and
through USC to a win. Got stuff there. And then
of course the NFL Sunday, which was interesting. I don't
know if it's a great, but very interesting. All part
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of our own kind of personal snapshot is what we
call love and hey.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Meet these player hays.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, every Monday hearing the Dog Gotlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio, we play for you a poor oh sorry,
play for you. We recap a portion of the weekend
that we loved and then we hated. So a resident
lover it's Dan Byer Dan, what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Well, Doug, I'll tell you what. In a league that
strives on parody, I love that my Seahawks are three
and oh and I know I'm gonna get some pushback
and say, well.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Who have you beaten?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh? You're baden?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, Broncos, Patriots and Dolphins. Should I remind you there
are eleven Super Bowl championships super Bowl titles combined with
those three franchises.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That was that? Is that really your pushback? I know?
You're like smiling when you say that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, I joke.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Dan Reno is not walking through that door. Tom Brady's
not walking John l. Lary Bird is not walking through
that door.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
But I will say this, on a schedule yesterday, where
you saw the Broncos go to Tampa and take out
the Buccaneers, where you had a crazy comeback with the
Rams beating the forty nine ers, there are outcomes that
surprised many in the National Football League. I'm sure we're
gonna get to at some point in this segment. The
Seahawks have done what they've needed to do, win the
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games they are supposed to win. They probably will not
have any three easier games than the games that they've
had on their schedule here. But again, Buccaneers could have
been three and oh. All they had to do is
beat the Broncos of the Seahawks beat in Week one,
and they couldn't do it yesterday. So I'll take the
Seahawks being three and oh and having a two game
lead in the NFC West while I can.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I want to mention one thing about that game, and
I encourage our listeners to go back and watch it.
Find it on Twitter whoever you gotta get it. The
bomb to DK metcalf in that game was severely underthrown.
DK had beaten his DBS by twenty yards and Gino
Smith underthrew it. DK had to slow down almost to
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a stop to catch the ball. That allowed two professional
defensive backs who probably run four three forties to catch
up to DK. He catches the ball and then somehow
just bursts another fifteen yards into the end zone without
them catching it. Was like a cartoon or like a
video game. He caught it and then you push the
(24:20):
button that makes you go really fast into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
It's funny you say that, because on the Sunday show
I do with Carrie Rhodes, this play happened as we
were on the air, and he immediately just said, yeah,
they're not going to catch him. Yeah, that he was gone.
Actually was before we got on the show. That's why
he said that we were getting ready.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
As soon as soon as he caught it and he
started to take off, he goes, it's over. Good observation,
Jason three and zero. I'll take it, Ryan, what do
you got?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well?
Speaker 8 (24:50):
I love the fact that Gino Smith was on my
bench in my Fantasy League but that's not what I
want to talk about. I despise the forty nine ers
and I love the fact that they lost during football season,
and me and my family all we do is talk trash,
and I was talking a lot of trash when the
forty nine ers lost. So whenever a Niner team loses,
it's a good day. Plus I think Rock Party is overrated,
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and that's all I.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Have to say. He was good yesterday though, he was
really good. But did he win?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No?
Speaker 5 (25:18):
But if Ronnie Bell could catch, they probably would have
fair point, so.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Fair to say he earned another contract. Dan and I
were Dan and I were on a group text with our.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Friend John Ramos good and called Doug. By the way,
I'm sorry, that's very good.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
You guys didn't even get that one. Did yet? I said,
what about Bell and BIV? Nobody gets that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Bad?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, Ben, never never trust the big button to smile.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's what you wanted to vote, But yeah we got it. Yep,
uh so good. I'm sorry, Jason.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I sent a text to John to Dan and John Ramos,
our friend John Ramos, because those tweets of the home
crowd at so far with all the red it was
a forty nine er home game. Here we are how
many years now, six or seven years into the Rounds
returned to Los Angeles. They've been to a super Bowl,
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and they won a super Bowl. This is an established
team with an exciting young head coach and a good team,
and they're still giving away home games to forty nine ers.
It's disgusting, it really is. But I have to give
him credit for the win yesterday for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Okay, can I give you what I loved? I just
I love Joshypel's speech. I did. I love Josh Hypel's speech.
You know, that's the reality to it, So just I
love that he didn't make it about him, but he
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processed those emotions so much. And for people who don't know,
Joshipel was quarterback at Oklahoma they won a national championship.
There's a freaking statue of him out front, and Bob
steps fired him. And I don't even know if Bob
Stoops was wrong to let him go. That you know,
at some point in time, you got to make some
tough changes, but it just it feels wrong. It's a
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hard thing about coaching your alma mater, really really hard thing.
So I don't know that's that's uh, that's my love.
I I you know, it was a tough weekend for
the state of Oklahoma, but Oklahoma Oklham State both losing
home games, one to Utah new member of the Big Twelve,
and one to Tennessee as Oh, you moved in the SEC.
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And I think Oklahoma's in for a tough year. But
I don't know. The Josh Hipel thing. If you haven't
seen the speech, you got to check that one out,
because he held it in, held it in, held in,
and then it was pretty obviously emotional, and I don't know,
I can't imagine the emotions of it. You know, like
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we're playing my first game at Oklahoma State. They didn't
fire me, they didn't hire me. But I mean again,
like it just gives me more gratitude for for Green Bay,
but for a guy that was actually there and won
a national championship, Like I was a good player, he
won a national championship his quarterback in two thousand. I
loved it. I loved it all right, let's turn to
the tables, let's go to let's kind of hate. What'd
(28:25):
you hate from the weekend? Hm m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Uh. Dan
On Jason Stewart, You're you're the best for the hate.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
This is what I'll do. I'm gonna do a Instagram
live right after the show today to do what I
loved from this segment. So we're gonna shove it. We
skip me, but I'm going to do an Instagram live
right for the show.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I thought you did you.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I thought it was the M forty nine ers thing
that you love that you were sending too.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
I thought that was your DK Metcalf thing too.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna save my thoughts on
Malik Willis. Now let's get to what I hated, because
this is very vitriolic. Coming into the game yesterday, the
Panthers had given up seventy three points in two games,
and that's a low total because the Panthers played the
Chargers and the Chargers just stopped scoring in the fourth
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quarter of their game, so they probably could have given
up one hundred points in the first two games of
the weekend. The Raiders were coming off this amazing win
on the road in Baltimore. The Panthers made a quarterback change.
You wouldn't think that would impact too much of the game.
I think it moved the line two points.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You hate that, No, this is what I hate, Okay.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
I hate that I had the Raiders of my Survivor poll.
I hate that the Raiders cost me a massive amount
of money yesterday. I hate that they didn't show up,
that they could not score on a Panther team that
had given up seventy three points in two weeks. Now
you could say the Raiders scored twenty two yesterday. No,
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they had a couple of late trash touchdowns. That doesn't count.
They let Andy Dalton look like Joe Montana.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
That wasn't Joe Montana.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
They made him look like an incarnate of Joe Montana
and Dan Marino. This is Andy Dalton. The Raiders should
be embarrassed. And that was a home game for the Raiders.
If I'm a Raider fan right now, I'm probably turning
in my credentials and I'm joining the Charger fans. If
I'm a Raider fan right now, I'm embarrassed. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Can we all like there's a bigger discussion here. It
couldn't so. One of the reasons that there was such
a push back to having a team in Vegas was
the nightlife right? And again I don't know who went
out and who didn't go out, but that felt like
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a game. You know what that felt like? What was
the other boxer that Butch killed in pulp fiction where
he never laced up his gloves? You know, the fix
was in. Butcher was supposed to take a dive, He
didn't take a dive, and then the guy died in
the ring. That was the Raiders. I don't know this
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for a fact, okay, but in just in terms of
final score, back come, everyone says Carolina has no players,
Caroline's not very good. And Andy Dalton was a damn
good quarterback for a long time. He's turned himself into
the consummate backup. He's good. This just has to be
a game where the Raiders didn't prepare well enough for it.
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And you know, it's it's one of those things where
those old school coaches they get you to you know,
it's like we always use to make fun of Lou
Holtz saying like, you know, shid now, it's a heck
of a football. Dam they cut me there, bacon, And
you're like, yeah, no they can't. But you have to
convince your team to prepare as if they're playing the
eighty five Bears, and he couldn't do that. He couldn't,
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he couldn't, couldn't do that.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
I'll also say this because I pose this question honestly.
If we honestly say who would you rather have as
your quarterback, Gardner Minshew or Andy Dalton, and I think
the answer is Andy Dalton. For as much as we
love Minshew mania, there is a portion of that. For
as great as it was last week, Gardner Minshew will
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bring your team back from you know, down ten in Baltimore,
I think that took a lot out of them. I
felt like they won a super Bowl like game last week,
and then you come home and you feel like it's
a home opener, but really the bigger high.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Was last week. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Sure, And how do you prepare, Like, if you're the Raiders,
you can't watch any Bryce Young film because that is
a relevant So I think that they were really difficult
to prepare for Andy Dalton because you didn't see Andy
Dalton and Dave Canalis's offense.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah yeah, I actually I actually understand that one more
so than some of the other ones. So I understand
your anger there JAYSU. But I think that was a
game of they weren't prepared when you want to call
a letdown game, or they didn't take it seriously or whatever.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
Right, why didn't they tell me beforehand that that they
weren't prepared. I could have changed my pick.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's true, they should have. This is Jason was stuck
on this pick. Doug.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
With this stuff, I go back and forth, and I'm
wishy washing. I talked myself out of stuff. Jason was
locked in for this all week long, all week long.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
It's one thing to it's one thing to pick a
Survivor pick and be pissed off at the team. But
like when you pick the team that you hate, so
you're you're essentially rooting for the team you hate and
they still lose, it just feels it feels even more hollow.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Okay, what about you there, Ryan?
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Yeah, so I'm a Raider fan, so let's talk about this.
I don't care about Jason's hatred. I do not care.
There's only one nation, and yesterday my team, the Raider Nation,
played like trash. And they always do stuff like this.
They go out and beat teams they have no business beating,
like the Ravens and then they lose the teams they
have no business losing too. Like the Panthers, they choose
(34:29):
Jason's point. They did make Dalton look like Joel Montana.
I don't know what they were thinking. It was somebody
I would say, you know, you know what, I would say,
Tom Brady. But Tom Brady cheats. But and I don't think,
and I don't think the Panthers cheated. Raiders just didn't
come to play. And I'm kicked off. I either turned
my phone off, That's how mad I was. So that's
(34:52):
all I gotta say. I'm kicked off. And by the way,
I will never become a Chargers fan. I'd rather drink bleach.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well that's a good way to get rid of COVID.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
That's harsh, jeez, thugs on fire first belve of devote
all this.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
As if I was a lady they be. They called
me satiny.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Did you were you up all that?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Like?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Are you wired from the first practice? Or did you
get good sleep last night?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I got? I mean, did you hear the sleep number read?
I got great sleep last night? Totally factual? No, I
got like five six strong hours. But that's after being
up for thirty straight hours. So yeah, no, I'm I'm good.
I'm you know, I just I'm I personally take great
delight in just crushing our dudes. And then at the
(35:42):
end of our practice, I had everybody coaches included to
a five minute wall st and the coaches were like,
what five minutes if we gotta do it, Like, yep,
we're all in this together. Guys are dying. I mean
my legs are fried too, but it was it was
fun to do. So yeah, I'm in a mood. I'm
not gonna lie. I'm in a bit of a mood.
(36:02):
What a good weekend, What a really good weekend. Plus
I had a really good hung out with my son.
Yesterday we went to Wild Wings and we finally like
Central time Zone. I'm convinced is the time zone for
wild Wings because the early window is twelve o'clock. So
we went like twelve fifteen. And here's another like b
(36:25):
Dubs or any sports bar. NFL fan College towns and
we were in Stillwater. College towns are amazing on a
Sunday because it's not really NFL territory, so there's places
to sit, whereas if you're in La or if you're
in San fran or in Chicago or even in Green Bay.
Like on an NFL weekend, sports bars are packed. College
(36:46):
Saturday not as much so, so we nailed it. A
college town. Go to a sports bar on a Sunday
in the Central time zone and you get all those
games at once. So all of that combined with a
great I think five and a half hour stretched last night. Yeah,
I'm and making everybody do five minutes of wall sits.
I'm good. Anything else, anybody else want to get anything
(37:07):
off their chest, anything else you hate from the weekend.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
I just hated that Baylor's defense was called victory cigar
on that hill Mary pass which I saw running around.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Why weren't they in a zone? Why wasn't there like
three guys back there and just in a zone? I
don't know what are they doing?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
They were all around Travis Hunter. That's what Hunter said. Awful.
I mean good for Colorado, you know, but gil.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Been bad for David Randa. I like Dave Randa a lot.
He had a winning really well he the losing has
been bad. And yeah, yeah, all right, that's loving hate.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
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Speaker 1 (37:52):
It It's Doug Gallip Show, It's Fox Sports Radio. It's
a Monday. Did you guys see he was playing next
next week Monday Night Football? Rough one Dolphins, Titans. Now
you got Jacksonville oh and two taking on Buffalo. I
think Jacksonville is better than their record, but not much.
Cincinnati oh in two took it on Washington in the Natty.
(38:18):
So you have two teams that we both think should
be around late in the AFC playoffs. One though off
to anho to two start, one a chance to get
the three oh which is you look statistically a great
shout at making the playoffs. I thought two cool things
did happen. You talk about the Tennessee Volunteers and and
uh and the Green Bay Packers going into Tennessee getting
(38:40):
a win. There was one parallel, dann By. You know
what that parallel is, right, I mean both teams were
led by somebody fired by the other side, and they
got a win. Malik Willis comes in and you know
thirteen of nineteen, I mean win because of him, But
(39:01):
they didn't lose. You know, he did not put them
in position to lose. And you know, Malik Willis, of
course was a third round draft pick at the Tennessee Titans,
was their starting quarterback. And you know, coaching change, GM change,
and look, he wouldn't. I don't think he's great anyway.
I don't think anybody thinks like he's proven he's a
starting quarterback. But it still is pretty awesome. And then Saturday,
(39:23):
Josh Hipel, who won a Heisman trophy, led Oklahoma to
a national championship and then coached their quarterbacks and their
offense and was let go by Bob Stoops. There's a
statue of him outside of the stadium and they fired him.
(39:45):
And Tennessee came in their first SEC game against or
Oklahoma's first SEC game with Tennessee visiting. It was not
nearly as close as the final score. And look, we
can all talk in terms and say the right things.
And whenever I thought Hipel's postgame speech was awesome, right
(40:07):
awesome because he talked about all the things and it
didn't it's not that you know, it wasn't about it
was never about me, But I do appreciate you when
it for me. And then the guys gave him the
game ball we'll get to that upcoming. I mean that like, look,
we're all human beings, and when some place that's special
(40:28):
to you tells you your services are no longer needed.
That one hurts bad and then to lead another parallel
football program in and to beat their tails, that feels
really good. Feels really good. Let's welcome in TJ. Huschman Zada,
who joins us now and the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Foxport Trade. You can hear up on game on Saturdays
(40:50):
here on fox Portrader Plus download the podcast. Let's start
with the Chiefs. How do you explain how beatable they
look and yet how unbeatable they seem to be at
the end of the day.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
I mean, the Chiefs are a good team, and when
you're a good team, that's what happens. You show some vulnerability,
but ultimately you're always gonna find a way to win.
And I mean we talked about this after they beat
the Bengals. They get calls to go in their favor,
but when you're a good team, you get those calls
(41:26):
you get I mean, that was passing appearance in the
end zone that would have given the Falcons first and
goal from the one yard line. You think they scored,
but then the Chiefs would have had time to probably
go down and score, which they probably would have. And
so the Chiefs they just make plays when it's needed.
It's fourth in inches, the Falcons had a chance, they didn't.
(41:46):
That's what good teams do. And they are such a
complete team because if it's not Mahomes and the offense,
Chris Jones and that defense has shown us that they
can bring the game home as well.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Got them show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let's get her on the league. Is Justin Fields good enough?
Speaker 6 (42:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (42:10):
I don't think any of us would say he's great?
Is he good enough?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Here? He doug straight up and down. Justin Fields is
a prime example of being on the right team, the
right fit, the right organization. It's a prime example. He
couldn't play in Chicago. It was what is going to happen? Oh,
(42:35):
Justin Fields is a bus No Justin Field's development in Chicago.
So you got to give Mike Tomlin Arthur Smith in
the first Stevens organization at Son of Credit, he's their
starting quarterback. I know Russell's hurt, and I know they
waiting on Russell.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I don't think they're waiting. I don't think they're waiting
on Russell for one second.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
No, he You know what, you know what needs to
happen is Mike Tomlin should just tell Justin Fields and
that team he's a starting quarterback. He'll play better knowing that.
But Justin Fields man that his story? Now? Is it
just you got to get a Steelers a ton of
(43:15):
credit for this?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Okay, let's go kind of around around the league. Is
as we continue to look at you know, three weeks
into the season, how do you explain the Carolina Panthers
inserting Andy Dalton in putting thirty six up on the Raiders. Raiders, now,
by the way, talking about a quarterback change, how do
you explain though Carolina Andy Dalton good player for a
(43:41):
long time. I know, obviously quarterback with the Bengals, but
the dramatic change in their outcome, Uh, that is.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
It's really really crazy how well Andy Dalton played. Not
surprising though Andy Dalton is as been a pretty good quarterback,
but to see Bryce struggle so much and then Andy
Dalton you do that on a Raiders defense? Like the
(44:12):
Raiders is they're not just a average like they're one
of the better defenses at least I thought in the
league can rush a passer good on the back end,
and so man Andy Dalton was phenomenal. But it is
an indictment on Bryce because he could barely throw for
one hundred yards and Andy Dalton threw for three hundred.
(44:37):
I think Bryce needs a change of scenery. It's confidence.
Even after that, it's hard like anytime you fail. We
all lose our conference does. But when you see somebody
go in there and play at that level and they win,
that has to be a blow to where you say, man,
(44:58):
am I that bad? And so I think he needs
to get up out of there. If they're smart, does
just trade them, cut their losses and move forward.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
That's the voice that tjes just Benzata for a Pro
Bowl Wide receivers join us in the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. What about the Raiders a
short time ago, you know, they had a press conference
and I thought it was interesting, right, I guess that
you know, you got a young head coach comes up
and says not ruling out a quarterback change, which means
(45:30):
there's going to be a quarterback change. Does Aidan O'Connell
change the Raiders at all.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
I'm not too certain of that. You know, Minshew is
going to be a guy at he can create time
in a pocket with his legs. He's not really running
the ball, but he's gonna scramble around to find guys
open the throw. Whereas aide O'Connell, she's your prototypical early
two thousands pocket passer. And the Raiders last time, I say,
(45:56):
I don't believe their old line is the greatest, and
so you're gonna put unquote almost a statue back there
the old line better, black better. They didn't lose that
game yesterday because of Gardner Minshew. They lost that game
because the defense didn't play how many thought they would play,
how I thought they would play. But when you do
(46:18):
say that, you're right, Doug, we're considering it's probably gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, it's not probably it is gonna happen. Malik Naghbors
makes two touchdown grabs. One was just absolutely spectacular. How
do we look now at uh at Danny Dimes?
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Hey, Daniel Jones played well. I was watching some of
that game. Man. He played well, he really did. But
I'm I'm a really big believer in Brian David was
a head coach man. This dude is so underrated as
a coach because of the deficiency of Daniel Jones at
times and his accuracy problems. But when Daniel Jones is
(47:00):
ain't on time for the most part being accurate, the
way Dabele can design and scheme guy to open it
and scheme up plays that defense. I thought the defense
played very well that d line. I mean it was
pressure the whole game and so. But Daniel Jones played
well with league neighbors. Then if somebody's LSU receivers, man,
(47:24):
they come in the league and they just hit the
ground rolling ready to go.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, they definitely do. Jerry Jones said, hey, we didn't
have the money to get Derrick Henry. Derek Henry signed
one year eight million dollars. Instead, of course, he went
out and got Zeke for the league minimum. Granted he
had Tony Pollard and you know, Derrick Henry's a different dude.
What are your thoughts on what's happened to the Dallas
(47:50):
Cowboys in recent weeks.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
I said before the season started, the Dallas Cowboys, we're
going to start one and two. I really I thought
they would lose the even beat the Saints and lose
through the Ravens. Obviously I was wrong with the first two,
but I mean he had the money to pay Derrick Henry.
They didn't want Derrick Canry. Just say it, you have
the money to pay him. We didn't want them. We
(48:14):
didn't get helpless. Just be honest. But when you you know,
the Cowboys knew they were going to pay Dak Prescott.
And when you pay a quarterback to amount of money
that Dak is being paid, the game is going to
go through him each and every game. That's why they
didn't want Derrick Henry. That's why they didn't pay Derrick Henry.
(48:36):
Dak being a sixty million dollar quarterback, and he made
around at it towards the end of the game. You know,
it got real interesting. But Dak, the game has to
be on his shoulders each and every time because that's
the contract that you want, that's the contract that you have.
You got to go get it.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Tjosnzana co host of Up on Game with LaVar Arrington
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it where you find any podcast. Who's your the best
Man appreciate you join us.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
You the best man. I'm out here in Cincinnati getting
ready to go to the game, baby, as a fan
you and as a fan yeah, I mean what else
am I going as?
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I don't know that. Where are you going to sit here?
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Oh? I'm sitting in the suite, and sweet sitting in
the box. I'm sitting in the box. I'm just you know,
over here talking with some of my commanders. I'm friends here,
people in the front office and coaches and stuff. Just
talking to them.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
All right, bro, we'll talk. We'll catch up soon.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
Thanks to take care of that.
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