September 24, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug and Dan Beyer partake in the the world premiere of "Beyer's Remorse". Doug welcomes The Athletic's NFL Insider Jeff Howe onto the show to discuss the Jaguars' woes, the Rams and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a Tuesday edition of "The Press".
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Hope?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So hope?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
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Crown is yours. Yeah, buyer. I did play Aaron Hills
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and the USGA was kind enough to welcome me out.
I brought a couple other guys out and we went
and we walked it eight and a half miles eight
and a half miles. Aaron Hills is a Lynxy style course.
It's in just a farmland in Wisconsin, and it's a
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lot of that farmland was you know, they obviously part
of Wisconsin used to be these these glaciers before the
glaciers you know, receded and became the Great Lakes, and
so they didn't have to move a ton of dirt Fords.
Really really interesting Linxy style setup with like almost the
outside of the the clubhouse is like almost like a
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dilapidated sort of wood shingle sort of home. It does
feel like you're kind of going back in time to
how golf it's And it was raining today. It's like
drizzling throughout all eighteen holes where it does make you
feel like you're playing golf and you could drink a
pint afterwards. It felt like I was in Ireland or Scotland,
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and I was sitting there going like a lot is,
let's go get a pint after we get down with
this round. I did not get a pint after we
get done with round. But that was the when you
had the Lindsey style and you had the drizzle. Yeah,
that's it. It did feel like.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
That a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Did you get any wind? No?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I was lucky. I was bad enough without the wind.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Sure, that's bad enough without the wind. No, it's quite
a test.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
The pros fared pretty well at the US Open in
twenty seventeen, and people are like, ah, that's not a
US Open type of course. And then you look back
at the leader board at that time because there were
a lot of names that we just weren't accustomed to yet.
Brooks Koepka ended up winning his first major at that point.
But yeah, quite a few big names there. Just got
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Let's start a new segment. We call it Buyer's Remorse.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
I engage, but there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well tell them about it, Dan, Yeah, Doug.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
So here's the deal, and it kind of has the
NFL set up in this perfect position through three weeks
of the season. Everything that we thought was going to
happen at the beginning of the year, so much has
changed and we're not even through September. Correct, So there's
some buyer's remorse on my side of things. For thinking
the Chicago Bears were going to be a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I don't if I thought their playoff team, but
I definitely thought they would be improved.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I did.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I thought they were going to be a playoff team.
In fact, I thought the Minnesota Vikings were the only
team from that division that we're not going to make
the playoffs, But it has been I don't think that
we are. I don't think we're doing a great job
in focusing on how bad it has been for the
Chicago Bears. They've been in competitive games, but to Jason's point,
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it feels like everything is competitive right now. The only
game that they won was a game where they didn't
score an offensive touchdown and Caleb Williams ended up having
less than one hundred yards passing in that game. And
now you've gone back to back weeks playing against the
AFC South, losing on the road to Houston and Indianapolis.
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And while those are close games, you also put up
thirteen and sixteen points respectively. And I honestly think the
ship has now sailed in the Matt Eberflus Shane Waldron era,
that offensive line is a mess. That's probably Ryan Poles's fault,
something that has been talked about by Bill Belichick and
others right now. But they did use a first round
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pick on alignment last year, probably could have used another
one this year in the draft considering who you all
brought in free agent wise with Keenan Allen and you
drafted Roma Dudns. All points that have been pointed out
by other people. But I don't see how this gets right.
I don't know how things show up. And Shane Waldron
was a questionable higher when it happened. Jackson Smith and
(05:27):
JIGBA gave him the not so great scathing review when
asked by a Chicago media outlet during Super Bowl week
of what Bears fans could expect from Shane Waldron, and
there was quite the pause and the uh, that's not
a good sign. And I don't. I don't think things
are going to get better. So I am already kind
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of disappointed in myself that I thought the Bears were
going to make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, I got a little buyer's remorse. I just again,
I understand and that this may come back to earth,
but I'm wrong. As far as Justin Fields is concerned.
I didn't think he was a viable option. I don't.
I didn't think you could win NFL games with him.
My thought was everybody had a shot at him, and
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they had to give up very very little financially to
get him, and he wasn't supposed to be the starter.
It was only because Russell Wilson wasn't wasn't healthy. The
Steelers are three and zero. I don't think there's any
way in which Russell Wilson gets his job back unless
unless Justin Fields gets hurt or it goes through just
a stretch of being terrible, and I don't think it'll
be terrible, but I just think he'll manage a game.
(06:37):
But it doesn't matter. They're winning with justin fields and
starting quarterback. I was wrong. That's my boris from morsh.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I got another one to lay on you. Okay, this
one is going to take. This is kind of the
opposite of my Bears take, maybe more along the lines
of your Steelers take here. I want to play two
pieces of audio because we scrutinized this audio and we should.
We did it throughout the summer. We were so smitten
with the Hard Knocks version with the New York Giants.
(07:07):
Remember when Joe Shane had this to say about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
H grade the offensive line and you're paying the guy
forty million dollars.
Speaker 9 (07:14):
It's not to hand the ball off to a twelve
million dollars back.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
My plan is address the offensive line at some point
here at free agency, we're sitting at six. Here's a
chance there's an offensive weapon there. This is the year
for Daniel.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
So that was We took that eighteen seconds and we
scrutinized it, and we looked over everything, said, man, this
is big one for the Giants. And then in Week
one they get destroyed by the Minnesota Vikings and we
were ready to fire Joe Shane and Brian Dable, Right,
So now look at the New York Giants and you say, yeah,
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but they're one and two. Well, they just went to
Cleveland and took out the Browns, who may have their
own problems. But if Brian Dable and the Giants would
have handled their kicker position correctly, they very well could
have beaten the Washington Commanders in week two. Sure, and
it makes this minute long exchange when talking about Saquon
Barkley because I know, Doug, the Giants the excuse me, Yeah,
(08:12):
the Giants haters or the Eagles lovers are going to
point to, but look at what Saquon Barkley is doing
right now, and you could have had him. That's all
well and good, but the reality is is they weren't
going to be able to have Saquon Barkley and do
all the things that Joe Shane felt that they needed
to do in the sixty second exchange with team co
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owner John Marraw, because we're not going.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
To franchising, Like it doesn't make any sense of franchisings
unless you think you can trade them after doing it right,
and then could we get something in trading?
Speaker 8 (08:45):
What are we really going to get unless it got
down to like seven million dollars, and I don't want
to offer that because I don't want to be think
we disrespected him. There's thirty one teams. Only takes one
to you know, maybe be open to doing something. If
it doesn't get to that, Hey, we're going to do
the right thing. We're going to let you hit free agency,
find out your market, come back and let us know
if we can match it. If if we can, you know,
(09:05):
we'll have those discussions.
Speaker 9 (09:08):
I mean a perfect world, I'd still like to have
me back.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
I just until we can prove that we can do
have a decent offense without him. Daniel's making a lot
of money and it's the forking like We've got to
figure out is to see the guy, so we got
to protect him. We need to put resources there. We
have wallaer Belly, a healthy Wandell Hyatt, Slayton. We'll have
to find a running back, but upgrade the offensive line,
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give him a chance, force.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
Us to take a running back and the high the
minute or we can.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Still sign one. There's gonna be guys if we're patient.
You know that ended up shaking out. Devin Singletary, who
was in Houston played for two seven to five this.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Year, and Devin Singletary ended up being signed by the
Giants on a three year, sixteen and a half million
dollar contract, almost what Takuon Barkley got from the Philadelphia
Eagles for twenty twenty four. And the why that Joe
Shane laid out was we're going to upgrade our offensive line.
We're going to get him the weapon like Molik Neighbors, who,
(10:07):
by the way, without the court, yes, amazing, he's been
great so far. Singletary probably should have had two touchdowns
against the Browns, but slid at the one yard line
so they could run out the clock and get the win.
The plan that Joe Shane laid out that ipoo pooed
and even said in Week one, while this looks like
a disaster, is exactly why the Giants have kind of
turned it around over these last two weeks and why
(10:29):
Daniel Jones hasn't been as awful as he as we
thought he would be. My Lak Neighbors has been great,
Devin Singletary has been as sufficient running back at a
third of the cost of Saquon Barkley. So that is
where I have buyer's remorse that I was so quick
to jump on Joe Shane because they gave us the
access that not the other thirty one teams have done,
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including the Chicago Bears and their version of hard knocks.
And now I think that they may not be a
playoff contending team, but they are definitely not as bad
as we thought they were and probably should be two
and one right now.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think it's a very very fair way of looking
at it as of now. When my buyer's remorse on
the Lions, now, I will point out that after taking
on your Seahawks on Monday night, they have a bye week,
and then have you seen their schedule at Cowboys at Vikings,
Titans at home in Green Bay on the road against
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the Texans. That's in successive games. They have four of
five on the road, Titans at home obviously feels like
a doub but man, you're going to find out what
that team is made of. They still have to go
to the Niners. I know they have to go to
the Colts whatever, but that's where we find out. But
my thing was that the Lions, it's really hard when
your schedule is loaded up when you're you know, when
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you play deep into the playoffs. You're going to play
a better schedule the next year. It's really hard to
replicate it when you haven't replicated it before. And so
far they look like a like a playoff team. I
know they lost the Buccaneers at home, that's a weird one,
but beating Arizona on the road ends up kind of
equing things out because I think Arizon's a little bit
better than our initial perception of them. My buyer's remorse
(12:06):
is on the Detroit Lions. I picked them and finished
the last that division.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
They had red zone troubles against the Buccaneers, they had
time of the clock issues against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
They very well could be three and zero. I picked
the Lions to not only win the Super to go
to the Super Bowl, but win the Super Bowl. And
I have no reason through the first three weeks of
the season to think that they are not going to
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do that.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I do. I yeah, they tell you what.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Look at the forty nine ers right now and the
issues that they're having with injuries and trying to trying
to get everybody back. There is no guarantee that everybody
is coming back the way that they were for the
San Francisco forty nine ers vikings seem to be like
a challenge. I think Green Bay has actually proved quite
a bit in these last two weeks. Really curious to
now see how they respond with Jordan Love as their quarterback.
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I can't hold the loss in Brazil against them, but still, Lions.
They play physical. I don't think teams like to play
that in the postseason. And yeah, I'm still on that
Lions train.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Jay Stu, do you got any buyers remorse you'd like
to share?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
You know, I chose to spend a very high draft
pick in an expensive fantasy league on Tyreek Hill, and
I felt awful doing it because as anyone who listens
to are in the Bonus podcast, and anyone who listens
to this show knows that I can't stand the guy.
And I think the lesson there is don't take a
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guy that you hate, even though he's one of the
most productive players in the history of the NFL. And
now I have buyer's remorse because I hated buying it,
and now without a quarterback in sight, and he has
looked checked out the last two weeks, it's been embarrassing.
So Tyreek Hill my buyer's remorse. Now, Dan, as in
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the Fantasy Officion Auto, you never sell it, guy Helloa.
So I wait for him to have a good game
and then I.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
That's all you can hope for right now. And I
don't know if you can hope for Tua playing again
this season, but that would be your only saving grace.
Maybe there was something with Tyler Huntley. They sure didn't
seem to be something with Skyler Thompson during the time
that he played. Yes, all of the Dolphin stock, whether
it be eighth Chan Wattle or Tyreek Hill, has gone
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significantly down because of the Tua concussion.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Samy, you want to get in on this, you get any.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I mean I totally whiffed on the Vikings and Sam Darnold,
and I didn't give enough credit to the pieces around
him and to a young, enthusiastic, clever coach like Kevin
O'Connell making it work for Sam. So you know, I'll
totally eat that. It's great to see Sam and the
Vikings succeeding. I just really did not see him performing
like this.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You guys know I did. That's my guy. I'm super
excited about it.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
That.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
By the way, my kids is buyer's remorse.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
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Is that right? Do you guys like the doubleheader on
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Monday night? I kind of really liked it last night. Now,
part of it is I have that the YouTube TV
where you can go two box, you can watch them
both at once. I just I kind of came up
come around on something I like. I really liked it because,
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just like last night, when you have one game that's crap,
you can still watch football, and the other game was good.
It wasn't that as close as the final score, but
it was still good, still good, stupid good. Jeff Howe
joins us. Of course, he's a national NFL insider for
the Athletic He joins us in the Doug Gotlin Show
on Fox Sports Radio and Jeff. Last night we saw
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the Bills absolutely eviscerate the Jacksonville Jaguars. It was two
years ago. The Jaguars had an incredible comeback to take
down the Chargers. Then they had a shot, you know,
they were playing well, had a shot to beat the
Kansas City Chiefs in Kansas City, and since then, now
Houston's kind of the toast of the town in their division.
Trevor Lawrence gets a big extension in the offseason. What's
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wrong with the Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's multi layered issues here. Talking to people around in
the league about the Jaguars today, it's kind of stunning
how far they fallen so quickly. And I covered both
of them those playoff games a couple of years ago.
I mean, that was a team that absolutely had the
feel of a young group that was coming on to something,
and then it all fell apart last season. I mean,
there's been issues with the offensive play calling. I think
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there are certainly the offensive line is having issues. I mean,
losing the left sack, Cam Robinson was having problems protecting
Trevor Lawrence all night. I think Trevor Lawrence was having
trouble with some mechanical things, probably because he couldn't trust
that the protection was always going to hold up now.
Certainly there were some accuracy issues that he needs to
reel in as well. Defensively, I got I had nothing
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to say. I mean that there was no fight. There
was certainly just not enough pushback. I know there was
some injuries, but you know, you can't tell me that
bring back let's call it three defensive players or what
have you, and all of a sudden things are going
to get a whole lot better. I mean, this just
looks like a team that's on the verge of a
meltdown if they don't get it fixed very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, a lot about the offense finally started to hit
on all cylinders, but the defense couldn't stop anybody last night.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, that was a really surprising one. And you know,
to an extent there, I want to give credit to
the commanders and the offensive game plan. Jayden Daniels obviously
played phenomenally and Cliff Kingsbury, as we've stayed in the past,
like when Cliff Kingsbury had the offense going in the
ground game, operating at a high level, he can be
a hard guy to game plan against, especially in real time.
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So but with the Bengals, I mean, again that's that's
a team that's had an average offensive line at best.
Really since Joe Burrow became one of the league's best quarterbacks. Offensively,
they're still a little bit out of think although last
night you wouldn't really know it, but you know, still
working their way back with the two receivers who were
unhappy with their contracts, Lust Boyd in the offseason and
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free agency traded Joe Mixon. So this is a group
that's going to take a while. That took that is
taking longer than we've accustomed to seeing with their early
season struggles. But the defensive lapses, I mean, I trust
in lou and Romo to kind of fix that on
the fly, just because of his track record. But you know,
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last night, maybe that was more about the Commanders than
the Bengals, at least the offense verus the Cincinnati defense.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Maybe maybe, I guess, maybe how do you explain what
the Rams were able to do Sunday?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That was incredible? I mean, talk about a jaw dropper.
They had no business winning that game and the Niners
had no business losing it, but Matt Stafford played out
of his mind. I had kind of written them off,
at least for the time being. Because of the amount
of injuries they've had. I mean, the offensive line injuries
started in training camp. It's looking a lot like the
twenty two season, when you know they just couldn't keep
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the same group together upfront, losing Cooper Cup and Pooka
and Nakua. I mean, that's I just assumed that this
was a team that was going to be way too
beat up to con continue competing in such a tough division.
But you know, on the other side, you've got to
really beat up forty nine ers group too. But you know,
you got Rock Perdy delivering a path on the numbers
to a receiver who drops it. You know, basically could
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have sealed that game. You've got a missed field goal,
another opportunity to kind of put the Rams away. They
just kept making mistakes. I thought Rock Purdy played a
good game, much better than the previous week against Flora's
and the Vikings defense. But the just team that made
a lot of uncharacteristic I guess you could argue against
that being uncharacteristic, but it's a team that made too
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many self inflicted mistakes down the stretch and a RAMS
group that keeps fighting because they're well coached and that's
what they do.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
That is all fair. Okay, Justin Fields, he hasn't played great,
but they've won all the games and it's working. Were
the Bears wrong, Like, well, what's your Justin Fields? Take
three games in the season.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They are putting him in an absolutely perfect situation. They
aren't asking Justin Field to do too much. When he
was with the Bears, he had to play almost perfect
just to give them a chance to even win, and
even sometimes that wasn't enough because of everything going on
around him. With the Steelers, they're the best defense in
the league right now. They're they're allowed, they're keeping opponents
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to an average of under ten points a game, and
Fields is you know, I was talking to people about
their quarterback situation before the season, and the majority of
people I spoke to thought that Justin Fields was better
suited to run that Steelers offense than Russell Wilson because
you can use his legs and as an asset, and
you can rely on Najie Harris in that round game.
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And we know Arthur Smith. You know, I think obviously
things fell apart for Arthur Smith in Atlanta, But if
you kind of marry all that stuff off you call
a fairly conservative game. You know some simple passes. Now, well,
he threw that dart on a crossing pattern for that
big game on Sunday. That was an absolutely brilliant ball.
You're not going to see many balls better than that one.
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So when asked to kind of pass to lead the offense,
he's done it in spurts. But they're not forcing him
to be something he's not, and they're allowing him to
kind of grow into that role. I just I love
what they're doing with him. Like you said, he's not
playing fantastic or anything. He's not posting massive numbers, but
he's doing everything it takes to win a football game
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because everything else around him is clicking so.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, it's really interesting to watch how you can be
supported by an organization or a really good defensive team.
We will see how long it lasts because they haven't
played the top level competition as of yet. Jeff Howe
joins us NFL Insider for the Athletic He covers the
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(22:54):
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What did we learn about the Dallas Cowboys in their
inability to win yet again at home against the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
It's their biggest concern going into the season. What was
going to happen with this defense? I mean, losing Dan Quinn,
like you knew that was going to happen, but bringing
in zim Or that's a completely different coaching personality. It's
a completely different coaching scheme. And you know, again talking
to people around the league before the season started, they
weren't sure that it was all going to come together.
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Certainly going to be some growing pains, and you can
run the ball on them. And when teams are committed
to running and you know they don't get greedy, you
just want to attack them up the middle. They're not
stopping you. There's not a whole lot of resistance. Now, offensively,
they made some mistakes, really like bad mistakes, dropping bad passes,
you know, just dropping the ball in multiple different ways.
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And you do that against the quality team like the Ravens,
you're going to dig yourself into a huge hole. Now,
they I like the fact that they showed a lot
they tried to dig themselves out of it, and you're
doing it to or you try to do it to
a Ravens team that has fallen apart quite a bit
over the last few years at the ends of games
and blowing big leagues, so they were a little vulnerable there.
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I still think that's probably somewhat of a concern if
you're Baltimore. But you know, again, defensively, I think that's
the biggest concern. I think eventually, you know, I'm not
sure what the ceiling is for the offense because I'm
skeptical of their running game, but I expect the passing
game and Dak and CDE. I expect those guys to
be fine, but they just need to be able to
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compliment them. They need complimentary football. Like everything the Steelers
are doing, the Cowboys are not. They're not running the
ball as explosively as they have in the past, and
they're certainly not stopping the run, and that's putting a
lot of pressure on the passing game.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Anthony Richardson, Can that be fixed?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
There's so much talent that I do. I do believe
that it can be. I just I'm shocked that it's
started off so poorly because he played so well in
stretches last season, and I thought that he was ready
to take a massive leap, and you know it's Shane
Steiching did a really good job last season, got a
good offensive mind, as we know I got, you know,
I got some pretty decent quarterback plays. So it's like,
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all right, now you get to put in the first
round pick the kid with all the talent in the world,
and all of a sudden, it's going to get a
whole lot better. We just haven't seen it yet. I mean,
the good thing is he's it seems like he's staying healthy,
but the performance just hasn't been great. I don't I
don't know. I haven't been able to watch them closely
enough to really know exactly what's going on with Richardson,
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but he's he's completely inaccurate.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I've watched him two games through. I watch him in
person against Green Bay and just misses things, doesn't see it.
And then the other part to it, though, is they're
really not running him, and I guess, I guess, I
just wonder, And obviously we don't know how much of
that is he was hurt last year and how much
of it is you know, Andrew Luck got beat up
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being there, and the last thing they want is another
Andrew Luck situation. But you have to run him. I mean,
that's his superpower.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, I totally agree with you there, and I think
it's fair to trace it to the injuries last season.
I mean, he started four games last year. I think
he got hurt in all four of those games. Now,
not necessarily like an injury report type of situation in
all four, but certainly a time when like it took
him quite a while to get off the turf in
each of those four games. So, yeah, you're trying to
(26:33):
minimize the impact that he's taking, but you also can't
have him played with one hand tie behind his back.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
We started by talking about Jacksonville, no Stefan Diggs, no
problem thus far for the Buffalo Bills. There were many
people that thought this was a year that'd be a falloff. Granted,
let's not act like Jacksonville is great. What's your impression
of the Bills in their chase of the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
They look outstanding. So, I mean, Josh Allen's been the
best player in the league through three weeks, and it
seems like they're all kind of fighting for him. They're
all playing like they believe that they have a quarterback
who can get them where they've been trying to go
for the last four years. And I think he's just
he's on an entirely different level at this point. He's
doing whatever he wants now. Again, part of that is
(27:20):
Jacksonville deserves all the criticism they've gotten for that defensive showing.
But you know what Josh Allen is doing. You know,
this is a remade wide receiver room. It's not just
losing digs and gave Davis. Now you're incorporating some younger guys,
certainly some unproven players. The other thing I like is,
you know, they're mixing in the run with Cook a
(27:40):
whole lot more than they were last year at the
start when they were struggling so defensively. You know, we'll
see where where they're able to get to in terms
of their ceiling. But with the way Josh Allen's playing,
I mean, the amount of defense, the amount of pressure
that he's going to put on opposing offense is to
kind of keep up. It's got to be a situation
where that defense is just able to be offertunistic.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Jeff great stuff as always, Man, Hey, we really appreciate
joining us thanks to our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Of course, thanks for having me. I have a good.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
One, you know, Dan, I was I actually did want
to ask you something. This was kind of This was
something I was talking with Jay stew earlier today about
can you believe how little hype there is about what
Shoheo Tani has done this year. I want you to
think about something in our lifetime, not that long ago. Right,
(28:31):
We had the home run Chase and the argument a
couple of years ago was it's Anaheim. Even remember Mike
Tradd was like, well the Angels in Major League Baseball,
they don't know how to promote guys. He had a fifties,
he's had a fifty to fifty season. He's in a
sixty sixty chase, and it'd be hard for him to
(28:51):
get there, obviously, but not impossible. And yet, I mean,
you know, I'm not talking about whether or not your
local news or in LA we talk about it, or
there's a mention here there on sports and maybe some
of it there is some of it, the fact that
traditional Sports center is no longer a big thing. Right,
Like we all grew up watching Keith and Dan and
(29:12):
Steve Levy and John Anderson and you know, and Ven
Pelt and Boucie Gross or whatever. And now those guys
are on, but we don't know half the other people
with Sports Center. Is not kind of the same as
he used to be. But you know, they take on
the they talk on the Padres today, they got up
three games that huge set with the Padres. They're actually
(29:34):
playing really good baseball. More than anything, this dude is unbelievable.
Fifty three home runs and fifty five stolen bases. And
yet I feel like I have to be the only
I know, I'm the only Fox guy outside of Rob Parker,
probably as he's a big baseball guy as well. Is
(29:54):
there any way to fix that in your in your mind?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yet?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I and if I'm wrong, you just go, hey, you're wrong.
You're not paying attention. You're in your own kind of
world of Green Bay and Packers in football. The rest
of the world is talking about it. I just don't
feel it.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I would say, And I think that there could be
a multitude of answers. This may be a smaller one,
but I would say if he was a New York Yankee,
I think it would be different.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Sure, but he is an LA Dodger. I grant that's
my point. I'm with you. He's a Dodgers. Aren't the Yankees.
He's a Dodger.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yes, that's my point with it where it is, and
I think it's an interesting look at where those two
organizations are considering. In the NBA, we think we have
all these brands, and I still think this way, I don't.
I don't think the Celtics are close to what the
(30:51):
Lakers brand is, sure, and I think that we saw
that with the NBA title this past year of the
Celtics winning and nobody really cares. But if the Lakers won,
completely different story. I think that that is part of it.
And I know it's crazy to say it's because he
plays on the Dodgers. I think there are so many
things I think now in sports, even in our business,
(31:11):
if I can speak on that is the NFL seems
to be the one where we only actually do care
about the games.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
The NBA has.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Been such a drama, you know, a filled season of
off season and who's going to play? Instead of your
actually talking about games. We don't necessarily do that in
this medium anymore. First take is just arguing about arguing
and nobody has an argument otherwise because they're not paying
(31:39):
attention to baseball. So there's I think that that could
play a small role in it. I also just don't
know if fifty to fifty and fifty three, you know,
fifty three, whatever you want to say, whatever the numbers
exactly are at this point, it's not the traditional baseball
stat that we love. I think it's more about a
player being athletic.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I do think you did nail did nail something there,
and maybe you you put it as part of the package.
I think the fact that the first takes and back
when they had undisputed and now you have any of
these talker shows, okay, they're like NBA drama, NFL centric shows. Now.
(32:19):
I'll also point out MLB Network does an amazing job.
I don't work for them. I'd never collected a check
for them. Okay, but when I watch, like if the student,
the set is really cool, they do really good highlights,
like if you're a baseball person, they do an amazing job.
But again I would I would challenge people to go, like,
have you ever watched their morning show? Do you ever
(32:40):
turn that on? If you're no, and you know the
First Takes and even obviously Good Morning Football, But those
shows are seen as so much more popular, and there's
so much money thrown into them that you inherently instinctively
watch you throw on. You know, in ESPN back when
you when when Shannon was there, people through on Undisputed.
(33:01):
But they don't talk baseball now. They don't talk baseball
because everyone knows that nobody wants to talk about baseball,
or nobody can wants to listen to baseball on a
national level. I just want to point out it's historically incredible,
and yet it feels like very little uttered about it.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I know we're tired on time, but I will say this,
it felt in ninety eight that we were all along
for the ride with the Cardinals and Cobs, Yes, yes,
and with show. Hey, if you're going to talk about it,
you have to have one opinion or the other, and
that's that's not everybody's along for the ride.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So maybe it's the way in which we watch sports
now is so divisible. Yeah, that's a really good one.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
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(34:11):
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of course you hear Dan Byer again top of the hour, Dan,
what do you got?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
This is the new press? Because that is not what
this is going to be. That's going to be two
big stories. Dan Campbell, that had got to the Detroit Lions,
spoke to the Detroit News more about the reason why
he and his wife decided to sell their house. We
found out because they were being harassed after the NFC
Championship game. As it turns out, the harassment started via
(34:41):
a classmate of one of Campbell's daughters who took to
social media, posting the address on social media, and then
that person and a group of other students ended up
going to the home where Campbell's daughter and her boyfriend
were there at the time. So that's how the scenario
broke out. Where Campbell was obviously with the team in
(35:02):
Santa Clara for the NFC Championship game, but afterwards, because
his wife was also there at the game, his daughter was.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Back home where the boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
They were the ones who got the harassment on January
twenty eighth, and because the address went online, they felt
comfortable enough to say like, hey, we need to get
out of here, and so they have moved. They're home
sold within twenty four hours. But that's more of the
details and why Dan Campbell sold his home.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Suck.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
People suck. It's sports. People suck.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, it really does, especially to considering how far that organization.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, I mean no perspective, like you were bad for
forty years, you're finally good. I didn't agree with the
play calling, you know, with the decision making there and
that get in the NFC champion game. But okay, you know,
and even if they are bad, like I don't care,
I don't care if you're a bad coach, what are
we doing? People suck?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Correct, the police did investigate. They said that the incident
did not meet the standard to file criminal charges against
the classmate, So they were just hard.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
With public information, you can find where people live. Just again, Yeah, people.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Suck, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
I remember when Brett Favr and the Green Bay Packers
won their first playoff game. They ended up beating the
Lions in Detroit on that throw by Brett Favre to
Sterling sharp late in the game, and then Packer fans
were happy after that game, or I should say, with
that playoff run, knowing that hey, we hadn't been there
in a long time, we finally were. We won a
game perfect. I think the Lions should have had the
(36:33):
same perspective. Speaking of Brett Favre, the Hall of Fame
quarterback revealed today in front of Congress that he's been
diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Incredibly sad. Just said, and you know, I can't say,
I'm not a doctor, I'm definitely not a neuroscientist that
football is the cause of it. But yes, quite obviously
most feels the cause of it.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Sucks.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Man. It's like you can disagree, you cannot like Brett
Farv and some of the things he's done off the
field or in his career or post career, that's fine.
He's a hell of a player, and he kind of
embodied the toughness and play every game no matter what.
And this is what the game is reordering with.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Sucks and that's the press.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
They get out there and pressed. That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
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and a half miles. Aaron Hills is a Lynxy style course.
It's in just a farmland in Wisconsin, and it's a
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lot of that farmland was you know, they obviously part
of Wisconsin used to be these these glaciers before the
glaciers you know, receded and became the Great Lakes, and
so they didn't have to move a ton of dirt Fords.
Really really interesting Linxy style setup with like almost the
outside of the the clubhouse is like almost like a
(01:46):
dilapidated sort of wood shingle sort of home. It does
feel like you're kind of going back in time to
how golf it's And it was raining today. It's like
drizzling throughout all eighteen holes where it does make you
feel like you're playing golf and you could drink a
pint afterwards. It felt like I was in Ireland or Scotland,
(02:06):
and I was sitting there going like a lot is,
let's go get a pint after we get down with
this round. I did not get a pint after we
get done with round. But that was the when you
had the Lindsey style and you had the drizzle. Yeah,
that's it. It did feel like.
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That a little bit.
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Did you get any wind? No?
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I was lucky. I was bad enough without the wind.
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Sure, that's bad enough without the wind. No, it's quite
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Brooks Koepka ended up winning his first major at that point.
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Let's start a new segment. We call it Buyer's Remorse.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
I engage, but there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well tell them about it, Dan, Yeah, Doug.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
So here's the deal, and it kind of has the
NFL set up in this perfect position through three weeks
of the season. Everything that we thought was going to
happen at the beginning of the year, so much has
changed and we're not even through September. Correct, So there's
some buyer's remorse on my side of things. For thinking
the Chicago Bears were going to be a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I don't if I thought their playoff team, but
I definitely thought they would be improved.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I did.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I thought they were going to be a playoff team.
In fact, I thought the Minnesota Vikings were the only
team from that division that we're not going to make
the playoffs, But it has been I don't think that
we are. I don't think we're doing a great job
in focusing on how bad it has been for the
Chicago Bears. They've been in competitive games, but to Jason's point,
(04:23):
it feels like everything is competitive right now. The only
game that they won was a game where they didn't
score an offensive touchdown and Caleb Williams ended up having
less than one hundred yards passing in that game. And
now you've gone back to back weeks playing against the
AFC South, losing on the road to Houston and Indianapolis.
(04:43):
And while those are close games, you also put up
thirteen and sixteen points respectively. And I honestly think the
ship has now sailed in the Matt Eberflus Shane Waldron era,
that offensive line is a mess. That's probably Ryan Poles's fault,
something that has been talked about by Bill Belichick and
others right now. But they did use a first round
(05:05):
pick on alignment last year, probably could have used another
one this year in the draft considering who you all
brought in free agent wise with Keenan Allen and you
drafted Roma Dudns. All points that have been pointed out
by other people. But I don't see how this gets right.
I don't know how things show up. And Shane Waldron
was a questionable higher when it happened. Jackson Smith and
(05:27):
JIGBA gave him the not so great scathing review when
asked by a Chicago media outlet during Super Bowl week
of what Bears fans could expect from Shane Waldron, and
there was quite the pause and the uh, that's not
a good sign. And I don't. I don't think things
are going to get better. So I am already kind
(05:48):
of disappointed in myself that I thought the Bears were
going to make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Okay, I got a little buyer's remorse. I just again,
I understand and that this may come back to earth,
but I'm wrong. As far as Justin Fields is concerned.
I didn't think he was a viable option. I don't.
I didn't think you could win NFL games with him.
My thought was everybody had a shot at him, and
(06:15):
they had to give up very very little financially to
get him, and he wasn't supposed to be the starter.
It was only because Russell Wilson wasn't wasn't healthy. The
Steelers are three and zero. I don't think there's any
way in which Russell Wilson gets his job back unless
unless Justin Fields gets hurt or it goes through just
a stretch of being terrible, and I don't think it'll
be terrible, but I just think he'll manage a game.
(06:37):
But it doesn't matter. They're winning with justin fields and
starting quarterback. I was wrong. That's my boris from morsh.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I got another one to lay on you. Okay, this
one is going to take. This is kind of the
opposite of my Bears take, maybe more along the lines
of your Steelers take here. I want to play two
pieces of audio because we scrutinized this audio and we should.
We did it throughout the summer. We were so smitten
with the Hard Knocks version with the New York Giants.
(07:07):
Remember when Joe Shane had this to say about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
H grade the offensive line and you're paying the guy
forty million dollars.
Speaker 9 (07:14):
It's not to hand the ball off to a twelve
million dollars back.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
My plan is address the offensive line at some point
here at free agency, we're sitting at six. Here's a
chance there's an offensive weapon there. This is the year
for Daniel.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
So that was We took that eighteen seconds and we
scrutinized it, and we looked over everything, said, man, this
is big one for the Giants. And then in Week
one they get destroyed by the Minnesota Vikings and we
were ready to fire Joe Shane and Brian Dable, Right,
So now look at the New York Giants and you say, yeah,
(07:50):
but they're one and two. Well, they just went to
Cleveland and took out the Browns, who may have their
own problems. But if Brian Dable and the Giants would
have handled their kicker position correctly, they very well could
have beaten the Washington Commanders in week two. Sure, and
it makes this minute long exchange when talking about Saquon
Barkley because I know, Doug, the Giants the excuse me, Yeah,
(08:12):
the Giants haters or the Eagles lovers are going to
point to, but look at what Saquon Barkley is doing
right now, and you could have had him. That's all
well and good, but the reality is is they weren't
going to be able to have Saquon Barkley and do
all the things that Joe Shane felt that they needed
to do in the sixty second exchange with team co
(08:35):
owner John Marraw, because we're not going.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
To franchising, Like it doesn't make any sense of franchisings
unless you think you can trade them after doing it right,
and then could we get something in trading?
Speaker 8 (08:45):
What are we really going to get unless it got
down to like seven million dollars, and I don't want
to offer that because I don't want to be think
we disrespected him. There's thirty one teams. Only takes one
to you know, maybe be open to doing something. If
it doesn't get to that, Hey, we're going to do
the right thing. We're going to let you hit free agency,
find out your market, come back and let us know
if we can match it. If if we can, you know,
(09:05):
we'll have those discussions.
Speaker 9 (09:08):
I mean a perfect world, I'd still like to have
me back.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
I just until we can prove that we can do
have a decent offense without him. Daniel's making a lot
of money and it's the forking like We've got to
figure out is to see the guy, so we got
to protect him. We need to put resources there. We
have wallaer Belly, a healthy Wandell Hyatt, Slayton. We'll have
to find a running back, but upgrade the offensive line,
(09:31):
give him a chance, force.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
Us to take a running back and the high the
minute or we can.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Still sign one. There's gonna be guys if we're patient.
You know that ended up shaking out. Devin Singletary, who
was in Houston played for two seven to five this.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Year, and Devin Singletary ended up being signed by the
Giants on a three year, sixteen and a half million
dollar contract, almost what Takuon Barkley got from the Philadelphia
Eagles for twenty twenty four. And the why that Joe
Shane laid out was we're going to upgrade our offensive line.
We're going to get him the weapon like Molik Neighbors, who,
(10:07):
by the way, without the court, yes, amazing, he's been
great so far. Singletary probably should have had two touchdowns
against the Browns, but slid at the one yard line
so they could run out the clock and get the win.
The plan that Joe Shane laid out that ipoo pooed
and even said in Week one, while this looks like
a disaster, is exactly why the Giants have kind of
turned it around over these last two weeks and why
(10:29):
Daniel Jones hasn't been as awful as he as we
thought he would be. My Lak Neighbors has been great,
Devin Singletary has been as sufficient running back at a
third of the cost of Saquon Barkley. So that is
where I have buyer's remorse that I was so quick
to jump on Joe Shane because they gave us the
access that not the other thirty one teams have done,
(10:50):
including the Chicago Bears and their version of hard knocks.
And now I think that they may not be a
playoff contending team, but they are definitely not as bad
as we thought they were and probably should be two
and one right now.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I think it's a very very fair way of looking
at it as of now. When my buyer's remorse on
the Lions, now, I will point out that after taking
on your Seahawks on Monday night, they have a bye week,
and then have you seen their schedule at Cowboys at Vikings,
Titans at home in Green Bay on the road against
(11:22):
the Texans. That's in successive games. They have four of
five on the road, Titans at home obviously feels like
a doub but man, you're going to find out what
that team is made of. They still have to go
to the Niners. I know they have to go to
the Colts whatever, but that's where we find out. But
my thing was that the Lions, it's really hard when
your schedule is loaded up when you're you know, when
(11:44):
you play deep into the playoffs. You're going to play
a better schedule the next year. It's really hard to
replicate it when you haven't replicated it before. And so
far they look like a like a playoff team. I
know they lost the Buccaneers at home, that's a weird one,
but beating Arizona on the road ends up kind of
equing things out because I think Arizon's a little bit
better than our initial perception of them. My buyer's remorse
(12:06):
is on the Detroit Lions. I picked them and finished
the last that division.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
They had red zone troubles against the Buccaneers, they had
time of the clock issues against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
They very well could be three and zero. I picked
the Lions to not only win the Super to go
to the Super Bowl, but win the Super Bowl. And
I have no reason through the first three weeks of
the season to think that they are not going to
(12:31):
do that.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I do. I yeah, they tell you what.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Look at the forty nine ers right now and the
issues that they're having with injuries and trying to trying
to get everybody back. There is no guarantee that everybody
is coming back the way that they were for the
San Francisco forty nine ers vikings seem to be like
a challenge. I think Green Bay has actually proved quite
a bit in these last two weeks. Really curious to
now see how they respond with Jordan Love as their quarterback.
(12:56):
I can't hold the loss in Brazil against them, but still, Lions.
They play physical. I don't think teams like to play
that in the postseason. And yeah, I'm still on that
Lions train.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Jay Stu, do you got any buyers remorse you'd like
to share?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
You know, I chose to spend a very high draft
pick in an expensive fantasy league on Tyreek Hill, and
I felt awful doing it because as anyone who listens
to are in the Bonus podcast, and anyone who listens
to this show knows that I can't stand the guy.
And I think the lesson there is don't take a
(13:33):
guy that you hate, even though he's one of the
most productive players in the history of the NFL. And
now I have buyer's remorse because I hated buying it,
and now without a quarterback in sight, and he has
looked checked out the last two weeks, it's been embarrassing.
So Tyreek Hill my buyer's remorse. Now, Dan, as in
(13:56):
the Fantasy Officion Auto, you never sell it, guy Helloa.
So I wait for him to have a good game
and then I.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
That's all you can hope for right now. And I
don't know if you can hope for Tua playing again
this season, but that would be your only saving grace.
Maybe there was something with Tyler Huntley. They sure didn't
seem to be something with Skyler Thompson during the time
that he played. Yes, all of the Dolphin stock, whether
it be eighth Chan Wattle or Tyreek Hill, has gone
(14:25):
significantly down because of the Tua concussion.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Samy, you want to get in on this, you get any.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I mean I totally whiffed on the Vikings and Sam Darnold,
and I didn't give enough credit to the pieces around
him and to a young, enthusiastic, clever coach like Kevin
O'Connell making it work for Sam. So you know, I'll
totally eat that. It's great to see Sam and the
Vikings succeeding. I just really did not see him performing
like this.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You guys know I did. That's my guy. I'm super
excited about it.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
That.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
By the way, my kids is buyer's remorse.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
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Is that right? Do you guys like the doubleheader on
(15:41):
Monday night? I kind of really liked it last night. Now,
part of it is I have that the YouTube TV
where you can go two box, you can watch them
both at once. I just I kind of came up
come around on something I like. I really liked it because,
(16:02):
just like last night, when you have one game that's crap,
you can still watch football, and the other game was good.
It wasn't that as close as the final score, but
it was still good, still good, stupid good. Jeff Howe
joins us. Of course, he's a national NFL insider for
the Athletic He joins us in the Doug Gotlin Show
on Fox Sports Radio and Jeff. Last night we saw
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the Bills absolutely eviscerate the Jacksonville Jaguars. It was two
years ago. The Jaguars had an incredible comeback to take
down the Chargers. Then they had a shot, you know,
they were playing well, had a shot to beat the
Kansas City Chiefs in Kansas City, and since then, now
Houston's kind of the toast of the town in their division.
Trevor Lawrence gets a big extension in the offseason. What's
(16:46):
wrong with the Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's multi layered issues here. Talking to people around in
the league about the Jaguars today, it's kind of stunning
how far they fallen so quickly. And I covered both
of them those playoff games a couple of years ago.
I mean, that was a team that absolutely had the
feel of a young group that was coming on to something,
and then it all fell apart last season. I mean,
there's been issues with the offensive play calling. I think
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there are certainly the offensive line is having issues. I mean,
losing the left sack, Cam Robinson was having problems protecting
Trevor Lawrence all night. I think Trevor Lawrence was having
trouble with some mechanical things, probably because he couldn't trust
that the protection was always going to hold up now.
Certainly there were some accuracy issues that he needs to
reel in as well. Defensively, I got I had nothing
(17:37):
to say. I mean that there was no fight. There
was certainly just not enough pushback. I know there was
some injuries, but you know, you can't tell me that
bring back let's call it three defensive players or what
have you, and all of a sudden things are going
to get a whole lot better. I mean, this just
looks like a team that's on the verge of a
meltdown if they don't get it fixed very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, a lot about the offense finally started to hit
on all cylinders, but the defense couldn't stop anybody last night.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, that was a really surprising one. And you know,
to an extent there, I want to give credit to
the commanders and the offensive game plan. Jayden Daniels obviously
played phenomenally and Cliff Kingsbury, as we've stayed in the past,
like when Cliff Kingsbury had the offense going in the
ground game, operating at a high level, he can be
a hard guy to game plan against, especially in real time.
(18:29):
So but with the Bengals, I mean, again that's that's
a team that's had an average offensive line at best.
Really since Joe Burrow became one of the league's best quarterbacks. Offensively,
they're still a little bit out of think although last
night you wouldn't really know it, but you know, still
working their way back with the two receivers who were
unhappy with their contracts, Lust Boyd in the offseason and
(18:51):
free agency traded Joe Mixon. So this is a group
that's going to take a while. That took that is
taking longer than we've accustomed to seeing with their early
season struggles. But the defensive lapses, I mean, I trust
in lou and Romo to kind of fix that on
the fly, just because of his track record. But you know,
(19:14):
last night, maybe that was more about the Commanders than
the Bengals, at least the offense verus the Cincinnati defense.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Maybe maybe, I guess, maybe how do you explain what
the Rams were able to do Sunday?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That was incredible? I mean, talk about a jaw dropper.
They had no business winning that game and the Niners
had no business losing it, but Matt Stafford played out
of his mind. I had kind of written them off,
at least for the time being. Because of the amount
of injuries they've had. I mean, the offensive line injuries
started in training camp. It's looking a lot like the
twenty two season, when you know they just couldn't keep
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the same group together upfront, losing Cooper Cup and Pooka
and Nakua. I mean, that's I just assumed that this
was a team that was going to be way too
beat up to con continue competing in such a tough division.
But you know, on the other side, you've got to
really beat up forty nine ers group too. But you know,
you got Rock Perdy delivering a path on the numbers
to a receiver who drops it. You know, basically could
(20:13):
have sealed that game. You've got a missed field goal,
another opportunity to kind of put the Rams away. They
just kept making mistakes. I thought Rock Purdy played a
good game, much better than the previous week against Flora's
and the Vikings defense. But the just team that made
a lot of uncharacteristic I guess you could argue against
that being uncharacteristic, but it's a team that made too
(20:35):
many self inflicted mistakes down the stretch and a RAMS
group that keeps fighting because they're well coached and that's
what they do.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
That is all fair. Okay, Justin Fields, he hasn't played great,
but they've won all the games and it's working. Were
the Bears wrong, Like, well, what's your Justin Fields? Take
three games in the season.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They are putting him in an absolutely perfect situation. They
aren't asking Justin Field to do too much. When he
was with the Bears, he had to play almost perfect
just to give them a chance to even win, and
even sometimes that wasn't enough because of everything going on
around him. With the Steelers, they're the best defense in
the league right now. They're they're allowed, they're keeping opponents
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to an average of under ten points a game, and
Fields is you know, I was talking to people about
their quarterback situation before the season, and the majority of
people I spoke to thought that Justin Fields was better
suited to run that Steelers offense than Russell Wilson because
you can use his legs and as an asset, and
you can rely on Najie Harris in that round game.
(21:47):
And we know Arthur Smith. You know, I think obviously
things fell apart for Arthur Smith in Atlanta, But if
you kind of marry all that stuff off you call
a fairly conservative game. You know some simple passes. Now, well,
he threw that dart on a crossing pattern for that
big game on Sunday. That was an absolutely brilliant ball.
You're not going to see many balls better than that one.
(22:08):
So when asked to kind of pass to lead the offense,
he's done it in spurts. But they're not forcing him
to be something he's not, and they're allowing him to
kind of grow into that role. I just I love
what they're doing with him. Like you said, he's not
playing fantastic or anything. He's not posting massive numbers, but
he's doing everything it takes to win a football game
(22:29):
because everything else around him is clicking so.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, it's really interesting to watch how you can be
supported by an organization or a really good defensive team.
We will see how long it lasts because they haven't
played the top level competition as of yet. Jeff Howe
joins us NFL Insider for the Athletic He covers the
entire National Footballleague. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show here
on Fox Sports Radio and of course Your Mind. You
(22:54):
can download the podcast at any time and force at
the end of the show, you can get all of it.
What did we learn about the Dallas Cowboys in their
inability to win yet again at home against the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
It's their biggest concern going into the season. What was
going to happen with this defense? I mean, losing Dan Quinn,
like you knew that was going to happen, but bringing
in zim Or that's a completely different coaching personality. It's
a completely different coaching scheme. And you know, again talking
to people around the league before the season started, they
weren't sure that it was all going to come together.
(23:29):
Certainly going to be some growing pains, and you can
run the ball on them. And when teams are committed
to running and you know they don't get greedy, you
just want to attack them up the middle. They're not
stopping you. There's not a whole lot of resistance. Now, offensively,
they made some mistakes, really like bad mistakes, dropping bad passes,
you know, just dropping the ball in multiple different ways.
(23:52):
And you do that against the quality team like the Ravens,
you're going to dig yourself into a huge hole. Now,
they I like the fact that they showed a lot
they tried to dig themselves out of it, and you're
doing it to or you try to do it to
a Ravens team that has fallen apart quite a bit
over the last few years at the ends of games
and blowing big leagues, so they were a little vulnerable there.
(24:13):
I still think that's probably somewhat of a concern if
you're Baltimore. But you know, again, defensively, I think that's
the biggest concern. I think eventually, you know, I'm not
sure what the ceiling is for the offense because I'm
skeptical of their running game, but I expect the passing
game and Dak and CDE. I expect those guys to
be fine, but they just need to be able to
(24:33):
compliment them. They need complimentary football. Like everything the Steelers
are doing, the Cowboys are not. They're not running the
ball as explosively as they have in the past, and
they're certainly not stopping the run, and that's putting a
lot of pressure on the passing game.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Anthony Richardson, Can that be fixed?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
There's so much talent that I do. I do believe
that it can be. I just I'm shocked that it's
started off so poorly because he played so well in
stretches last season, and I thought that he was ready
to take a massive leap, and you know it's Shane
Steiching did a really good job last season, got a
good offensive mind, as we know I got, you know,
I got some pretty decent quarterback plays. So it's like,
(25:15):
all right, now you get to put in the first
round pick the kid with all the talent in the world,
and all of a sudden, it's going to get a
whole lot better. We just haven't seen it yet. I mean,
the good thing is he's it seems like he's staying healthy,
but the performance just hasn't been great. I don't I
don't know. I haven't been able to watch them closely
enough to really know exactly what's going on with Richardson,
(25:38):
but he's he's completely inaccurate.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I've watched him two games through. I watch him in
person against Green Bay and just misses things, doesn't see it.
And then the other part to it, though, is they're
really not running him, and I guess, I guess, I
just wonder, And obviously we don't know how much of
that is he was hurt last year and how much
of it is you know, Andrew Luck got beat up
(26:05):
being there, and the last thing they want is another
Andrew Luck situation. But you have to run him. I mean,
that's his superpower.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, I totally agree with you there, and I think
it's fair to trace it to the injuries last season.
I mean, he started four games last year. I think
he got hurt in all four of those games. Now,
not necessarily like an injury report type of situation in
all four, but certainly a time when like it took
him quite a while to get off the turf in
each of those four games. So, yeah, you're trying to
(26:33):
minimize the impact that he's taking, but you also can't
have him played with one hand tie behind his back.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
We started by talking about Jacksonville, no Stefan Diggs, no
problem thus far for the Buffalo Bills. There were many
people that thought this was a year that'd be a falloff. Granted,
let's not act like Jacksonville is great. What's your impression
of the Bills in their chase of the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
They look outstanding. So, I mean, Josh Allen's been the
best player in the league through three weeks, and it
seems like they're all kind of fighting for him. They're
all playing like they believe that they have a quarterback
who can get them where they've been trying to go
for the last four years. And I think he's just
he's on an entirely different level at this point. He's
doing whatever he wants now. Again, part of that is
(27:20):
Jacksonville deserves all the criticism they've gotten for that defensive showing.
But you know what Josh Allen is doing. You know,
this is a remade wide receiver room. It's not just
losing digs and gave Davis. Now you're incorporating some younger guys,
certainly some unproven players. The other thing I like is,
you know, they're mixing in the run with Cook a
(27:40):
whole lot more than they were last year at the
start when they were struggling so defensively. You know, we'll
see where where they're able to get to in terms
of their ceiling. But with the way Josh Allen's playing,
I mean, the amount of defense, the amount of pressure
that he's going to put on opposing offense is to
kind of keep up. It's got to be a situation
where that defense is just able to be offertunistic.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Jeff great stuff as always, Man, Hey, we really appreciate
joining us thanks to our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Of course, thanks for having me. I have a good.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
One, you know, Dan, I was I actually did want
to ask you something. This was kind of This was
something I was talking with Jay stew earlier today about
can you believe how little hype there is about what
Shoheo Tani has done this year. I want you to
think about something in our lifetime, not that long ago. Right,
(28:31):
We had the home run Chase and the argument a
couple of years ago was it's Anaheim. Even remember Mike
Tradd was like, well the Angels in Major League Baseball,
they don't know how to promote guys. He had a fifties,
he's had a fifty to fifty season. He's in a
sixty sixty chase, and it'd be hard for him to
(28:51):
get there, obviously, but not impossible. And yet, I mean,
you know, I'm not talking about whether or not your
local news or in LA we talk about it, or
there's a mention here there on sports and maybe some
of it there is some of it, the fact that
traditional Sports center is no longer a big thing. Right,
Like we all grew up watching Keith and Dan and
(29:12):
Steve Levy and John Anderson and you know, and Ven
Pelt and Boucie Gross or whatever. And now those guys
are on, but we don't know half the other people
with Sports Center. Is not kind of the same as
he used to be. But you know, they take on
the they talk on the Padres today, they got up
three games that huge set with the Padres. They're actually
(29:34):
playing really good baseball. More than anything, this dude is unbelievable.
Fifty three home runs and fifty five stolen bases. And
yet I feel like I have to be the only
I know, I'm the only Fox guy outside of Rob Parker,
probably as he's a big baseball guy as well. Is
(29:54):
there any way to fix that in your in your mind?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yet?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I and if I'm wrong, you just go, hey, you're wrong.
You're not paying attention. You're in your own kind of
world of Green Bay and Packers in football. The rest
of the world is talking about it. I just don't
feel it.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I would say, And I think that there could be
a multitude of answers. This may be a smaller one,
but I would say if he was a New York Yankee,
I think it would be different.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Sure, but he is an LA Dodger. I grant that's
my point. I'm with you. He's a Dodgers. Aren't the Yankees.
He's a Dodger.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yes, that's my point with it where it is, and
I think it's an interesting look at where those two
organizations are considering. In the NBA, we think we have
all these brands, and I still think this way, I don't.
I don't think the Celtics are close to what the
(30:51):
Lakers brand is, sure, and I think that we saw
that with the NBA title this past year of the
Celtics winning and nobody really cares. But if the Lakers won,
completely different story. I think that that is part of it.
And I know it's crazy to say it's because he
plays on the Dodgers. I think there are so many
things I think now in sports, even in our business,
(31:11):
if I can speak on that is the NFL seems
to be the one where we only actually do care
about the games.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
The NBA has.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Been such a drama, you know, a filled season of
off season and who's going to play? Instead of your
actually talking about games. We don't necessarily do that in
this medium anymore. First take is just arguing about arguing
and nobody has an argument otherwise because they're not paying
(31:39):
attention to baseball. So there's I think that that could
play a small role in it. I also just don't
know if fifty to fifty and fifty three, you know,
fifty three, whatever you want to say, whatever the numbers
exactly are at this point, it's not the traditional baseball
stat that we love. I think it's more about a
player being athletic.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I do think you did nail did nail something there,
and maybe you you put it as part of the package.
I think the fact that the first takes and back
when they had undisputed and now you have any of
these talker shows, okay, they're like NBA drama, NFL centric shows. Now.
(32:19):
I'll also point out MLB Network does an amazing job.
I don't work for them. I'd never collected a check
for them. Okay, but when I watch, like if the student,
the set is really cool, they do really good highlights,
like if you're a baseball person, they do an amazing job.
But again I would I would challenge people to go, like,
have you ever watched their morning show? Do you ever
(32:40):
turn that on? If you're no, and you know the
First Takes and even obviously Good Morning Football, But those
shows are seen as so much more popular, and there's
so much money thrown into them that you inherently instinctively
watch you throw on. You know, in ESPN back when
you when when Shannon was there, people through on Undisputed.
(33:01):
But they don't talk baseball now. They don't talk baseball
because everyone knows that nobody wants to talk about baseball,
or nobody can wants to listen to baseball on a
national level. I just want to point out it's historically incredible,
and yet it feels like very little uttered about it.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I know we're tired on time, but I will say this,
it felt in ninety eight that we were all along
for the ride with the Cardinals and Cobs, Yes, yes,
and with show. Hey, if you're going to talk about it,
you have to have one opinion or the other, and
that's that's not everybody's along for the ride.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So maybe it's the way in which we watch sports
now is so divisible. Yeah, that's a really good one.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
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(34:11):
idea of the press is as many quick hitting stories
as possible to get you on about your day. And
of course you hear Dan Byer again top of the hour, Dan,
what do you got?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
This is the new press? Because that is not what
this is going to be. That's going to be two
big stories. Dan Campbell, that had got to the Detroit Lions,
spoke to the Detroit News more about the reason why
he and his wife decided to sell their house. We
found out because they were being harassed after the NFC
Championship game. As it turns out, the harassment started via
(34:41):
a classmate of one of Campbell's daughters who took to
social media, posting the address on social media, and then
that person and a group of other students ended up
going to the home where Campbell's daughter and her boyfriend
were there at the time. So that's how the scenario
broke out. Where Campbell was obviously with the team in
(35:02):
Santa Clara for the NFC Championship game, but afterwards, because
his wife was also there at the game, his daughter was.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Back home where the boyfriend.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
They were the ones who got the harassment on January
twenty eighth, and because the address went online, they felt
comfortable enough to say like, hey, we need to get
out of here, and so they have moved. They're home
sold within twenty four hours. But that's more of the
details and why Dan Campbell sold his home.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Suck.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
People suck. It's sports. People suck.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, it really does, especially to considering how far that organization.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, I mean no perspective, like you were bad for
forty years, you're finally good. I didn't agree with the
play calling, you know, with the decision making there and
that get in the NFC champion game. But okay, you know,
and even if they are bad, like I don't care,
I don't care if you're a bad coach, what are
we doing? People suck?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Correct, the police did investigate. They said that the incident
did not meet the standard to file criminal charges against
the classmate, So they were just hard.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
With public information, you can find where people live. Just again, Yeah, people.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Suck, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
I remember when Brett Favr and the Green Bay Packers
won their first playoff game. They ended up beating the
Lions in Detroit on that throw by Brett Favre to
Sterling sharp late in the game, and then Packer fans
were happy after that game, or I should say, with
that playoff run, knowing that hey, we hadn't been there
in a long time, we finally were. We won a
game perfect. I think the Lions should have had the
(36:33):
same perspective. Speaking of Brett Favre, the Hall of Fame
quarterback revealed today in front of Congress that he's been
diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Incredibly sad. Just said, and you know, I can't say,
I'm not a doctor, I'm definitely not a neuroscientist that
football is the cause of it. But yes, quite obviously
most feels the cause of it.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Sucks.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Man. It's like you can disagree, you cannot like Brett
Farv and some of the things he's done off the
field or in his career or post career, that's fine.
He's a hell of a player, and he kind of
embodied the toughness and play every game no matter what.
And this is what the game is reordering with.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Sucks and that's the press.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
They get out there and pressed. That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
You should have learned a lot from this show, a lot,
a lot, a lot a lot like Hey, Padres and
Dodgers tonight and of course show Hey going for home
run fifty four, but nobody outside of us cares. This
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