September 26, 2024 • 47 mins
Doug updates you on the UNLV story involving their former quarterback. Doug tells you how important Thursday night is for the Cowboys.
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Giants Cowboys Giants Cowboys get to that in one second.
I do want to talk just for a second about
the UNIV story as it continues to evolve, the UNLV stories,
it continues to evolve, because we're gonna have on the
podcast where we have a pod only hour for this show,
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and our guy Bernie Fratto is gonna join us on
the podcast is the Bernie Fraddo Show, which you can
hear weekends on Fox Sports Tradio. He's like mister Vegas
and the claims are now that like look and again,
a lot of you can tell a lot of what
somebody knows, not based upon what they say, but sometimes
based upon what they don't say that makes sense. So
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it appears like we know what happened. An assistant coach
said something about one hundred grand, and the kid went
with it, and then when they got there there was
no one hundred grand. And I'm gonna just add this
do a little real quick little storytelling for you, Okay,
real quick storytelling because money is involved, and they're both
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two professional stints, and it happened essentially in back to
back weeks. For me, I was playing professionally in Israel,
playing for a club called Maccabi Ranana if you play
in Israel as an Israeli, and that's what at the time,
I had dual citizenship, so I could because I'm Jewish.
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You can make what's called ali ah and you can
become a citizen of Israel while maintaining your citizenship in
the United States voting elections, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So in order to do it, you have to go
live there for a year, and also you have to
put yourself in the pool to be in the army.
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We can tell we've told the army story a little bit.
We'll tell that at a different time. This is not
what it's about. It's about money, Okay. So I was
playing and we were having a little bit of a
disappointing season as a club. But part of it is
the year before they were in the biggest of euroleagues
and kind of overspent in order to do so, and
they were behind financially. It was it was during in Defad.
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I was in two thousand and one, it was in
two thousand and two. It was not a great time
financially in Israel. Although it was, it wasn't incredibly safe time.
And yeah, I just I distinctly. Remember, okay, when again,
when you're in Israeli, when you're an American, you get
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paid in dollars. When you're Israeli, you get paid in shekels.
In shekels, what's the difference. Well, the difference is again
they have to find the exact dollar amount to pay you,
and they pay you. Actually they wire it in dollars
into your American account, whereas they wired and shekels into
your American account. There's the factor of the currency, the
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currency exchange rate. So I was getting my payments several
days to a week late, and what the club was
doing because the money was tight, was they would wait
until the exchange rates were more favorable so they didn't
have to pay as much money. So I went to
the president of the club and I said, Sir, because
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I'm Israeli, I got to stay two extra months. I
got to go to basic training with it. With the army.
I wouldn't actually been in the army, would have been
a desk job, but I would have had to stay
after we had lost at some point in the playoffs
to get my maycheck and get my June check. I said,
if you will give me every penny that you owed
me have to go to court for it. Just look
me in the eye, tell me as a man, I'm
going to get every penny on my contract and in dollars.
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And he said, we will do the best can And
I gave him another chance, and he said the exact
same thing. So I left and then I went to
the ABA, which was a minor league, and this was
in the early years of the G League was then
called the D League. But no one wanted to be
in the D League because you didn't make any money.
Very few people got called up. And it was a
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three year guaranteed, so if you it was a fifty
thousand dollars buyout, but in order to get bought out
by somebody outside of the NBA, they had to pay
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. People weren't paying hundred
fifty thousand dollars to buy out that level of player.
So the ABA was a minor league that had a
very small buyout incredibly talented rosters. Most the rosters were
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made up of guys that had played in the NBA
and a couple that were trying to make it in
the NBA. All those guys are trying to get it
get back, and I will I will not forget the
fact that my first practice, I flew in from Israel
to Detroit, Michigan, and we played the Detroit Dogs two
nights in a row at Junior College. It was a
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good crowd. Then we flew to Phoenix where we were
staying in Tempee, and we were practicing at a church
in Scottsdale, a church where we played, Like I say,
I got three thousand seat really nice church. And I
don't rememberf we practiced there. We practiced at a high
school or whatever. But I remember getting on the practice
floor and all of the rest of the players refused
to practice, and when the coach walked in, they were like, hey,
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why are you guys not practicing? Like, we ain't got paid, man,
we ain't playing til we get paid. And for me,
because I had just signed with the team, I just
played in those games. I wasn't owed any additional money,
so I didn't have the right. So I actually had
a one unknown practice where all of my teammates were
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waiting for the owner to show up. Well, I ran
around and practiced in Arizona in the ABA, and sure enough,
the owner did walk in and again, I'll never forget
get it. You know, all the players are sitting down.
He's like, look, guys, we're going to get you paid
whatever we got to get you right right away. But
why aren't you practicing? And one of my teammates, one
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of my teammates said, if we worked at McDonald's and
we didn't get paid, why would we keep working at McDonald's. Right, So,
my thing is this with the UNLB deal, and this
is a real thing, and I would tell my own
players this because I've had this experience. Okay, there are
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NIL contracts that exist even at Green Bay, and within reason, right,
you have a contract, your set is supposed to be
paid at particular point in time. We did this with
with our players. So everyone gets a cost of attendance
check that's your normal scholarship check, plus a factor in
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what it would cost to live in Green Bay. And
then if you have an NIL check, it's ANIL check.
And our thing was we weren't back in school till
September fourth. Those were the first days of all payments,
and guys had rent that was supposed to be due
the first and it's not like they go like, don't
worry about rent. I got it. They had to do
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first and last already, and so they're a little tight.
I called the landlord and said, hey, can we get
this push back till September sixth. They all got their checks.
It was all fine, but you do run the risk
of guys going like, hey, man, I ain't doing anything.
Do I get my check? And I actually understand it.
The caveat is this though, and again I don't know.
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I was not involved. I understand what the former unv
quarterback is putting out there as this narrative. If you
agreed to an amount, and you were paid for that amount,
then you play. None of this other nonsense matters. And
if you sign a contract, then you absolutely play. But
his mistake was he shouldn't have played one single down
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without having a contract, one single down without having a contract.
So Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Gigantic
game tonight, Giants Cowboys. Dak Prescott has won each of
his last twelve starts against the g Man, throwing for
at least one hundred and forty yards in each victory.
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It's the longest such streak by any NFL quarterback against
a single team over the past seventy five years. So
the Giants have stunk and the Cowboys have beaten them.
But man, do the Cowboys feel like they're a little
dysfunctional right now, don't they? And the Giants? Everybody gave
up on the Giants and then they jump up and
win a game last week. We'll give you our picks
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and our predictions. But as I've told you, one of
the great joys of my life, Like, look, my kids
are the greatest joy of my life. They just make
me smile. My daughter today called me and uh small
talked for seven minutes before she asked me for gas money,
which I thought was wonderful. That's that's a great saleswoman already.
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That she's going seven minutes before she asked me for money,
you know. Or some kids just send you a text, Dad, Dad,
I need gas money. He's the daddy. Yeah. But the
other joys of my life are watching the Dallas Cowboys lose,
and I think we can all unite. And it's one
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thing for them to lose and nothing to lose on
Monday night football to you to lose on Monday night
football to the Giants and Daniel Jones, Do I think
it happens. Probably not do I want to happen? You
damn skippy.
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Who came up with this one? I think this is
a Jay Stu idea, right Like, there's no such thing
as bad ideas here in the Doug Gottlieb Show, especially
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with our crew. We've had Dan Byer propose different games.
We've had Jay Stu with several segments. Occasionally, Iowa Sam
gets in Moncy. Obviously she's got name with some ideas
as well. So I think Jase dou is this about
two months old.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Just to clarify, Iowa Sam rarely has anything. He has
cute bump music selections and he's got good drops and
he just played the crowd Noise, but he has yet
to delivered to me an idea for a bit. I'm
still waiting on that, but it's it's still early. He's
only he's only been in the business fifteen years now.
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Don't throw it. I'm most proud of the title of
this because a lot of people do throw back Thursday,
hashtag throwback Thursday, but I'm the one who came up
with the concept of the title and it goes back
to us, like these things that happened in sports. You'll like,
I remember what's the name of Hopkins of the Titans.
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I remember he was coming back from like a gambling
or a drug suspension or something, and he just went
on social media and said, don't call it a comeback,
but he was coming back because it was like six
games suspension. He hadn't played for a year, but it
was a comeback. He's coming back. But it's like been
a thing since Lael Cool Jay did the song like
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don't call it a comeback. So I did a little
uh spin off of that, and this is the name
of the segment here.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You see what I did there, don't throw I want
to go back ten years Doug on a Sunday night.
I think it was Cowboys versus the Giants on a
Sunday night. Uh. The internet broke because Odell Beckham Junior
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made maybe the greatest catch in the history of the NFL.
I think everyone has seen it if you haven't googled it.
But it was a one handed catch. I guess. I
think there was past interference on the play. The cowboy
defender was all over him. Just a crazy ass catch
that frankly made the guy a bunch of money and
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has made him maybe the most overrated player in the
NFL the last five years. Seems like every offseason there's
a there's an o Day Beckham Junior sweepstakes. Who going
to get him? Who's going to get Odell Beckham?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Because they all wanted to be back to twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh Beckham jun Yeah, and I think he's on the
Dolphins now doing nothing, probably hurt. But I do want
to focus on that night because if you think back
to twenty fourteen, Giants and Cowboys. Tony Romo was playing
in his final full season with the Cowboys. Remember the
next season he would get it hurt, and then the
season after that they would draft Dak Prescott and the
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rest is history. The Giants lost that game that night,
and they would they would go on to have I
think a six and ten season. I think this was
two years removed from their upset over the Patriots or
second upset over the Patriots and the Super Bowl. But
if you think about the Cowboys and Giants from twenty fourteen,
that year, that's kind of where we're at. The Cowboys
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won the division, they of course came up short, I
think to the Seahawks, who would go to the Super
Bowl and lose to the Patriots. Yes, but twenty fourteen, Doug,
what comes to mind when you think of that year.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A lot of different things. When I knew you were
doing this year, I look back and I was like, wow,
there really wasn't very good movies that year. That was
one thing that jumped out in my mind. There wasn't
good movies that year. But it's one of the great
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years in the history of the NBA. Do you remember
who won the NBA championship there.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Twenty fourteen, Doug was a year of a lot of
dynasties sort of not necessarily reaching their end, but maybe
being like the middle of it or kind of towards
the end. It was the San Antonio Spurs and was
that their last one so far? Was the last one
with Pop Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeahwiland that was also Yeah, as Quid learned, that was
the one where we did Lebron cramp up in Game
one in San Antonio was so hot those Kawi Land
was the MVP.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They upset the heat Yeah, yeah, did they?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Was it an upset?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm guessing the heatles? Come on? Were they? Actually? They
were never an underdog in that series, were they?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Twenty fourteen was the loan time that Mike Trout was
in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Wait, wasn't it was that twenty fourteen?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That's sad and I want to say he got swept
out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, although that might not be the year because that
was the year Kansas City was in the World Series, right.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Twenty fifteen, that was the Kansas City World Series winner.
They roy they win that year, went and watched the Giants.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And then they beat the Mets.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Or yes, the Royals beat the Mets, and then yes,
twenty fourteen it was the Giants when it was at
their third and five years.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Was that mad bum Oh yeah, speaking of mad the
most popular TV show at that time and it started
its final season it was mad Men. Madman one of
the greatest TV.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Shows that never watched it.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh, tremendous.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I still watch it now.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah. Yeah, it's dated because it was it's set in
the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Right, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Right, you need to watch it. You've been shows I
love BEINGI oh you need to find mad Men. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
If it's bad, I'm gonna blame you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Fine, well, Don, then you have bad taste.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Don Draper is one of the greatest characters of all
time on TV. I think the one thing that you'll
find uncomfortable. And Christina has this thing she hates watching
shows or reading books about guys that cheat. If you
have that discomfort and you don't want to, I mean,
Don Draper's got a lot of weaknesses and that's that.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
John Hamm is he in there?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
N okay, okay, great show. What do you remember about
twenty fourteen, Malzi.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Twenty fourteen is when I started working for the Dodgers,
and I'm still there, so that's good. It's also when
I started working at Universal Studios as a VIP tour guide.
So a lot of memories there. But what stands out
to me in twenty fourteen sports wise, that was the
year that stupid Donald Sterling really derailed the Clippers' success
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because of all of the crap that came out and
he was banned from the league and you know, we
ended up losing to the Thunder and like it just
that's always I will always always think of that season
as the one that got away because of Donald Sterling.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And did you watch the show on FX clipped?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I actually didn't finish it. It's not It's fine, but
you know, it's not like it's not like a documentary.
It's obviously for entertainment purposes. So I think I got
like two episodes left. I was watching it when it
first came out, and then I was like, well, I
know what happens, and I found it more funny than
anything the way that they chose to execute it, like
(19:07):
with the casting and everything. But you know, I haven't
finished it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
The start of Steve Baumer that year? Was that it?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep. Toilets, Thank goodness for
those toilets.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
My dad died in twenty fourteen. Anybody wanted, like, I'm
not really sure that's the happy out happy note.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That everybody wanted ten years huh yeah, ten.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Years November wow, ten years November.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Godless.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I used to call them every night. So that was
I started working in August, so right about you know,
now a little bit earlier. From New York City, we
moved from California back to Westport, Connecticut. Love Westport and
drive home every night. People ask why I drive home.
I drove home so I could talk to my dad.
And the one night we were gonna we were going
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to California in like two days Thanksgiving, and uh actually
ironically had like the whole I have a brother and
a sister, they each have three kids, like all nine
grandkids are gonna be there whatever, And the night before
I didn't call him. I don't even know why. And
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then he had a brain bleed midle night and we
went out there and he was on the machines. We
turned out the machines. That was it. So yeah, ten
years ago. Happens happens?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
That is rough.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, really I would love to say I would
love to say it that. I Yeah, I mean like
I outwardly get over things really quickly. Inwardly, that one,
that one set me back a lot.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And you know, you probably think about it at the
ten year mark, right, You've been thinking about it this
whole time, but once that ten year mark rolls around,
you're reflecting on it.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, missing him, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, I don't know if I I didn't really that.
Maybe it's this spiking a pissed Jason. It's it been
ten years already.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
This time.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay, I appreciate that, though, Sam, you gotted something to
lighten the mood.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Please.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well ten years ago, I was still living in Iowa,
working a bunch of jobs and I would move out
to California in December of twenty fifteen. Not really lightning
the moon unless you want to laugh at the Iowah
Hawkeye football team. But they had a pretty who hum year.
They finished seven and five, and I believe that's the
year they got absolutely slayed slayed by Tennessee in the
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tax Slayer Gator Bowl, horrible blowout. And they also got
blown out earlier that year by Minnesota, which doesn't happen often,
but it was like fifty one to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It was.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Coach Jerry kill really had them roll in there for
a little bit before he had to move on because
of health issues. But yeah, it was a seven and
six season for Iowa football and Jarry kills it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He's like retired three times because of healthing is he
is he? I think he's back somewhere.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He was with New Mexico State and I and they.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Won, like won the bowl game last year. I remember that.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And they had some somewhere this year scandals at New
Mexico State, both with the basketball and football programs because
of like hazing and stuff. So I would have to
double check if he's still there. But he's a great coach.
He just had the seizure issue where he you know,
got a little two worked up nervous and then have
these seizures on the sideline at Minnesota. But he really
had them humming. He had a really good culture in
place there before he had to take his health into consideration.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
But yeah, he's a consultant at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Okay, so he said Vanderbilt and Vanderbilt opened to the
year I think two or three and zero before they
dropped one this past weekend. But yeah, great coach, I'm
sure boon to have on your staff. I noticed this
and I'm shocked that Monster didn't bring it up. The
album of the Year was nineteen eighty nine Nice. Nice
Of all of her albums.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
For those who don't know her music, how does nineteen
eighty nine rank nineteen?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
For me? It's probably it's not my favorite. My favorite
is Red, but nineteen eighty nine was a big one.
I think that's the one that had blank Space, which
was one of her bangers. Even the music video she
like destroys a car and I love it. That's what
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You'd ever describe a Taylor Shift's song as a banger.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I know I've said that to you before, and you
said this because they don't have that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Baseline like I think.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think the banger is like put down the windows,
rode down the windows, put down the top right, or
everybody's just like.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
We got a baseline kicking.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, you know what, You're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Shift's got bangers.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
You're not wrong. I just I love me.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I will tell you this. Fifteen always made me cry.
You think of my daughters. Yeah, my daughters were like
at the time, twenty fourteen, they were five, no, no, six,
they were eight, they were eight, and uh yeah, you
just think of them getting their heartbroken when they're fifteen
years old. You don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, that was a that's a great you're right, very emotional.
But yeah, in nineteen eight nine, I'm looking at the
list because I forget what albums have? What songs? Bad blood?
Great song? Great song? Bad blood?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
You speak for yourself, though, is can it be great song?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Great song? Banker?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What else happened two thousand.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I'll tell you what the pop culture sensation of the year.
And it's a shock. It's a shocker that this didn't
work out. Kanye and Kim Kai got married. Oh joy?
Oh wow, but that my diary. How many kids.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Did I gaggle?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That many?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Two or three?
Speaker 5 (24:46):
How many do they?
Speaker 7 (24:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's apparently that was part of the Ebola epidemic?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Was that year? Oh no, that was a four children? Sorry,
that's a great memory.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Actually, yeah, North Saint Chicago and Psalm mhm. Shall I
repeat that? North is eleven Saint is eight, Chicago is six,
Psalm is five. That's Kim K and Kanye's kids. Nice
a lot of alliteration there. You guys remember the ice
Bucket challenge, right that.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Was that was that summer. Yeah, we did it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
We should go back to a bola.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, it's actually a lot harder to get ebola than
you might think, Like COVID is way easier to get
than ebola, but.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's that was part of the thing with COVID was
how quickly it is.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But if you get ebola, you are kind of screwed,
kind of screwed.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
What is what what is the uh what's it called rate?
What's the like, what's the.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Word survivability or like mortality rate?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Mortality rate? Yeah, yeah, yes, I'll look it up while
you you will you wax poetic on abola because it
seems like you want to.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Well, I read I read this book called The Hot
Zone a long time ago by John crack Hour dude,
like Into the Wild, Into Thin Air.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, there was also a wasn there a movie Outbreak?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It was sort of like yeah, kind of about like
kind of the Marburg or Ebola virus, but just fascinating.
I want to say, though, like twenty thirty years ago before,
maybe they had more treatment or uh, you know, treatment
for ebola.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I think that the the mortality rate.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Like it would kill oh man, I want to say
sixty percent of people who.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The average averages fifty case ftatorates have varied from twenty
five to ninety percent.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah. And then here's a weird thing.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I've read about people who got over ebola, but
they still had the virus like incubating in their eyeballs.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Very strange.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Twenty fourth, Sorry you were done. I thought we were
done talking about Ebola. I'm try trying to move on
from Ebola.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Talking about it bowl. Yeah, it got into the US.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, and we did Kanye and uh impregnating Kim five times,
four times.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Four children, North Saint Chicago.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
She definitely uses surrogate for at least one of them.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Yeah, maybe even more of that. That was also the
year that I won because dude, it's a lot on
the body.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, I know, but couple, like, what's the difference.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I know, because you don't want to do it anymore.
She was like, I'll pay somebody, So I don't know.
I just assumed she's hard on the body. That was
the year they or.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Do you think Kenye got to stop laying the plane?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Stop dog?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
It's Hollywood might be part of the deal, right, surrogate right?
Who wasn't? Who announced last week David Dave grow right
that he has a he had one out of out
of wood luck. Yeah, and then they're gonna they're gonna
stay together. I mean, I'm sure he tried the surguate thing, babe.
(27:53):
Let's just try the surrogate Dan.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right, he really tried to get out in front of it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
That's not how the surrogate thing works.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Not how it works.
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Stefan Diggs was a guy that super talented, but we
know his chili ran hot on the sidelines, So Josh
Allen didn't name him by name, but was he talking
about him when he described with this quote why his
season has gone so well and his receiving corp is
playing so well.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
When guys get to buy into this and really understand,
like I may not get the ball four or five
times thrown to me a game, but the one or
two times I do, I'm gonna have opportunities be in
the end zone. And it's a fun and wonderful thing.
When you got a bunch of guys that don't care
about the stats, they don't care about the touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Hmm was he huh? Was he referring to Stefan Diggs. There,
here's Josh Allen yesterday when asked him that he was
referring to Diggs.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Now, I know there's a lot of people talking out there. Again,
I'm not trying to tear down anybody. I've loved everybody
that I've played with, you know, and you don't have
to tear other people down to build each other up.
And you know, we're building each other up right now,
and that's all we're trying to do. We're trying to
stay together as a team, and we're really caring about
each other. And you know, everybody in this building's got
that feeling, you know what I mean. You know what
(30:13):
I mean, I with former whether it's former players. Yeah,
and again, I love I love fourteen, I still do.
But I everyone wants to keep making this thing a thing.
And you know, we're so focused on what's going on
inside of our building and that's the only thing that
we're caring about right now.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You buy it, I actually buy it. I actually truly
believe that he didn't mean anything by mentioning Stefan Dicks,
even if it ends up feeling like it's Stephan Dicks.
I actually believe that. I actually believe that maybe I'm gullible.
Do you guys really took the word gull about of
the dictionary. Somebody just told me that I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I think that we can. We can we meet halfway
on this. I think you're right. I think that he
in kind of like a galligy way, didn't mean any
harm towards Dix. But I think he inadvertently, by by
saying all those positive things about the current guys, he
was insinuating that it hasn't been the same in the past,
(31:15):
and there's only one guy that's not there from the past. Well,
maybe Gabe Davis left as well. Maybe he was referring
to Gabe Davis. Maybe we should start that rumor. But
I think we're I think you're right. I don't think
he meant to, But by by not, I don't know.
It just seemed like he meant too without meaning to.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Mm hmmmmm. I don't think that's what he meant. I
do think he meant. He's been in wide receivers. I
just don't think off the top of his head he
was like, Ooh, let me tell you why these guys
are better than Stefan Diggs. And here's why. I think
he's just his way of saying, like, look, these guys
are bought in, and that's what happens when you're bought in.
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doing with the whole Florida State thing?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
I like it. It's like it's like it there's a
death in the family because of how things have collapsed.
For my knowls, I am doing just fine. I can't
say the same for Mike Norvell, for dj Uyungulaa, and
for a lot of the Seminole fan base, which is
just absolutely perplexed right now wondering how they could go
(32:45):
from a very popular pick and not trendy like it
picked that a lot of people looked at and said,
you know what, offense should be good, defense should be great. Yeah,
they can compete with anybody. And to start the season
zero and three. It's been one of the big collapses
that I can recall in the last ten to fifteen
years of college football, and I do say, like Mike
(33:06):
Novel is just trying to keep things together. They were
very competitive and got their first win against Cal last week,
so I guess it's like, man, maybe that first one
was the hardest. Let's see what they can do. But
the season, no matter how it shakes out, is going
to be well short of expectations.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Agreed Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
what about Clemson. Does this prove that that it doesn't
work to not go to the portal?
Speaker 7 (33:34):
No? I think, dabbl I think there's a chance Dabo
could have the last laugh. You know, the problem that
he faced is a Georgia problem, and that's a problem
that anybody would have fits with. And they were in
a tight game for a half and then the second
half they got blown out. But since then they have
all of a sudden really found themselves, and a lot
(33:55):
of that's to do with playing teams that aren't it
twent at Georgia. So here's here's where I get to.
I feel like Clemson can be a top fifteen program,
the way that Davo is going to go about things,
ignoring the portal building from within. But I think what
could be incredibly frustrating for Clemson fans. They want to
get back to the national titles. They want to get
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back to beating teams like Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State.
And that's still that to me. I need to see
it before I believe, you know, before I can believe it,
because they still have When you look at some of
the composite numbers, which is basically a ranking of how
talented is your roster with four and five star players,
they're still ranked fifth in the country as far as
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talent composite according to twenty four to seven Sports. So
even though they haven't hit the portal, they're still uber talented.
It's just some of that talent is a little bit
younger because they've got them, you know, in recruiting as
opposed to getting some veterans come in who are fifth
year seniors and as that have a lot of experience.
But Davo, I still believe in his culture and I
actually appreciated in somebody's a little bit more old school,
(34:59):
likes guys that want to stick around and he's trying
to buck the trend. I root for him, but I
still wonder how he is gonna do if he gets
to the playoff, which I think is probably a likelihood
now considering how they've rebounded, if they do have a
rematch against Georgia, or if they do have to play
Ohio State or Alabama or one of these elite institutions,
and I think I would give him a chance. Like
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even if they're a rematch against Georgia, if they could
figure out their offense and allow time for improvement, I
still think they could be a team to be reckoned
with in the national title rate.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's the voice of Danny Knell. He joins us here
in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, speaking
of Georgia Obama this weekend in Tuscaloosa. What do you think?
Speaker 7 (35:41):
So this is pretty wild because coming into the week
my lean was Georgia just based on Kirby Smart, you know,
the job that he's done, consistent winner. Alabama has a
lot of question marks, you know, with Kaylyn de Bore
taking over for Nick Saban. But then I start looking
at the records and I'm like, Okay, Kirby Smart is
one in five against Alabama the program, you know, and
(36:03):
granted that was against Nick Saban. He's been awesome against
everybody else. So I'm trying to look at it and say,
all right, well, what is it? Was it a Nick
Saban problem? I think it's an Alabama problem. For one
of the few times that they play across the entire season,
Georgia is actually facing a team with as much or
more talent than he's got. It's in Tuscaloosa. Jaln Milroe,
(36:25):
I think has the quarterback advantage over Carson Beck, especially
considering the way the season has gone off to a
little bit of a bumpy start for the Bulldogs. I
think Carson Beck misses brought Bowers and Lad McConkey, two
of his favorite targets, and Brock Bowers is really probably
that was his biggest security blanket in clutch situation, and
they have not figured out who that guy is going
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to be yet. So I look at all factors combined
where the game is being played in Tuscaloosa, Jaln Milroe's legs,
I think are going to be the X factor. I'm
going to take Bama. I'm going to take the two
and a half points, and I don't hate Bama to
win the game outright, I do think this will be
a defensive slug fest, like, hey, keep the other team
at bay, don't let Milroe beat you with his legs,
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don't let Georgia beat you with a big play. So
I kind of also like the under but I'm gonna
go ahead and take Bama as a home dog, which
is something we have not seen since two thousand and seven,
for them to be an underdog playing at home.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I was told that Oklahoma had the savior. His name
was Jackson Arnold. Dylan Gabriel had a good year, was
in some Heisman discussions. You know, he lose to Oklahoma
State late, and then he puts himself in the portal.
Now he's at Orgon. But I don't worry. Jackson Arnold's
the guy. We're only a couple weeks in and now
they're starting another freshman on the road at Auburn after
(37:42):
losing their sec home opener to Tennessee. I guess my
question is, like, what do we think the how much
kind of slack do you think is going to be
given to this staff, to Brent Fennibles if in fact
they finished seven and five this year.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
Oh, he'll be catching some serious heat from Oklahoma fans.
He's got security because Bret Bennold has just just given
a nice contract extension before this season, So like the
buyouts way too much to even consider him to really
be on the hot seat. It'll just make things really
uncomfortable for him around Norman because the expectation is you
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guys to be competing for national championships and yet and
you just became like Lincoln Riley was there, they were
getting ten wins a year. Bob Soups was there ten
wins a year that wasn't a big twelve. And what
makes it really uncomfortable is that SEC fans have been
telling Oklahoma fans for the past three or four years
since we knew they were going to the SEC, oh,
(38:47):
you guys are going to be five hundred when you
get to the SEC. And you know what, you can't
say you're wrong, like you're gonna say, oh, maybe you
guys were right. The whole quarterback dilemma that a lot
of schools are in now, Doug is pretty wild because
I have noticed an epidemic of just a lack of
confidence from a lot of young quarterbacks. The minute they
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face adversity, or they have a rough game, or the
fans start to boo, or they throw a pick six,
they absolutely bundle up and just shut it down. And
you can see it. When I was watching Jackson Artold
against Tennessee and even the previous week against Tulane and
before that against Houston, I saw a young quarterback who
was really struggling with his confidence and his belief in himself.
(39:32):
And I think it's a trend we're seeing it. I mean,
DJ Youngolay at Florida State is I see him with
the exact same look in his eye, and he's not young,
but he's faced with adversity and all of a sudden,
they just lose their confidence. And I don't know where
it comes from. I don't know it's the pressers of
social media, if its anxiety is up across the younger generation.
(39:53):
I don't know if it's because a lot of these
quarterbacks don't face adversity in high school because they usually
go to a team where they're guaranteed the spot and
they have guaranteed the chance for a state championship. But
there aren't many quarterbacks that have been able to battle
through it. And so now you're seeing Oklahoma just go
to the backup. All right, we've seen it enough too.
We're going to make that change and Jackson Arnold probably
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will move on from Oklahoma and I'll go on to
his next stop after the season. But what I would
like to see, and we're seeing this somewhat a couple
of schools. Avery Johnson at Kansas State's another example. He's
just coming off a two interception games. I would love
to see a quarterback show some resolves, show some mental toughness,
show some belief in himself and a staff as well
(40:35):
to allow them to play their way through some difficult situations.
Any quarterback that's ever been with the salt that has
been considered great, either in college or that pros have
been through those tough times. We've all been there. You
just have to figure out a way to fight through it.
And for whatever reason, we're seeing more quarterbacks crumble under
the pressure of college football than we've ever seen before.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's a great point. That's a great point. Or maybe
we're just it's more noticeable. Yeah, And we and they're
making more money. Now, speaking of the money, what's your
thoughts in the unov thing.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
It's a disaster, you know, I mean, it just really is.
I mean, this is kind of where we are with
college athletics today. I mean, this is kind of and
I'm sorry you probably are like the same mindset. Well,
this is what everybody wanted, right, we wanted everybody to
be paid. Where I'm at now, Doug, and I don't
know where you are is Okay, we've gone down this road.
Let's just fully get there. Let's just make them employees.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Can't let them.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
You can't make them employees like people. People need to stop.
They don't understand. You can't make your employees. You can't
make them the same employee as as a as an
executive assistant, or as the sociology teacher. You can't. Now,
they'll they'll have to get some sort of approval from
the works for them.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
What if the courts force them to.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I don't think that they they they it will. It
will crush the university systems.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I just do.
Speaker 7 (41:59):
That's what I'm verified about.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Not how it worse. I mean, I'll give you an example, Okay,
this example to hire an assistant coach in the University
of Wisconsin system. Okay, I have to conduct interviews. Then
I have to form a committee. They have to conduct interviews. Okay,
you have to go through a CA THOROL background check
like it's it is not an overnight process. You can
get emergency hires, but it has to go through the chancellor,
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and there's a limited number of them. So you mean
to tell me for eighty five scholarship players, I have
to have a committee and go through all these like
just and again that's not even beginning to get to
all the other stuff like it's and and everything becomes taxed,
and then all their benefits become taxed. It just becomes
a mess. But I think we're like a year away
(42:45):
with if they if they come to an agreement on
the twenty two million dollars, which is essentially like a
sort of salary cap, right, that becomes interesting. Whereas all
that money can be you know, fed back to the athletes.
But then there's quite of Okay, what about Title nine?
Does that have any any place here? And you still
have an nil collective either in house or out of house,
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that doesn't have to do with that twenty two million dollars.
It's it's still very very interesting, don't you.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
Feel like it's all an absolute mess though, because even
that twenty two million is all of a sudden, that agreement,
that settlement that was agreed upon, is being fought by
some attorneys that are saying, no, no, no, no, that's not enough.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Oh no, it's never good. It's never gonna it's never
it's it's never going to be enough. Right, it's never
for for anybody. Right, That's that's how it's going to work.
And what they'll end up doing is they'll rob Peter
to pay Paul. They'll they'll bankrupt the system, uh right,
and they'll there'll be a fewer number of teams. Where
really where the people are really upset is that the
payments for this thing, where the back pay to the
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you know in the NCAA is made up a member
institution's the non power four power five. They have to
pay like sixty percent of the bill, even though like
none of it had anything to do with programs like mine.
It was all the high majors. But the caveat is like, hey,
if you want to keep make the NCAA tournament, have
it survive and that's where everybody makes money, then you're
gonna have to pay in for this thing. So it's
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it is. It is a mess.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
It's what I worry about is that I think it's
I think a lot of college football fans and college
basketball fans I'm sure too, are getting this interested now.
They're still coming back and they're going to watch the
big programs. But I do worry about the hardcore fans
who do shell out money to go to games and
who do want to watch and want to root for
(44:31):
a program, and they see stories like this and they
just and I see it all the time on social media.
Is Man, I'm done, and I don't want to lose
those fans. And I don't know if we will. Maybe
they're just saying that and they just threaten them, but
they're going to come back on Saturdays to watch. And
really the problem is I don't I don't know who's
its fault, like and I don't blame the kid. I
don't blame the quarterback in UNLV. If he was told
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he was going to be paid, I think we would
all do the same. I think, you know, the school,
I don't know if it was the collective without communicating
with the coaching staff who guaranteed him some money, and
the coaching staff's like, what the heck do you want
us to do? We're not even allowed to do this.
And the agent who's out there who doesn't have a
written contract is out there trying to say we got
screwed over, and yet he was the one who agreed
to this deal verbally without a written contract. It's just
(45:15):
an absolute mess and what I hope for And I
don't this is a problem because I think we all
sit around and we're like, yeah, this all sucks. There's
no end in sight. Because I just saw, literally as
I was waiting for the phone call to talk to you,
I saw a Florida Gator who's entering the portal because
it's three games and he wants to go somewhere else,
And like, there's no contractual obligations on either side, there's
(45:37):
no protections for either side until we get to that place,
We're just going to continue to see more and more
stories like this one. Yeah, don't I wish I had
the answers because it's incredibly frustrating and I'm sure. I mean,
every coach that I talked to is just like helpless,
Like I don't know, like I try to keep my
players happy. I don't know, what my roster's going to
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look like in a month. But I do my best
to try to develop team chemistry and camaraderie. But it's
really hard because half my team is brand new and
they haven't even been here for four months, and I'm
gonna lose them and there's gonna be just as much turnover.
It's it's just a mess, and it kind of it
makes me sad because I loved my experience of going
to college with a class like the class that I
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went into. The freshman class, we would talk smack against
the other classes and we had pride, and then when
we were all seniors, we'd look at the freshman class
and be like, are you guys have to uphold the standards?
Can you win as many championships as we did? And
we all like, I still have tech chains with guys
that I played with, you know, twenty five thirty years
ago that were all part of my freshman class together.
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And I look around and I see some of these
players and their freshman class is like a fraction of
what it was like. There's like two guys that maybe
lasted a lot of these programs for four to five years,
and it bumps me out because I think people, I
think as much as financial and steps of as there is,
they're missing out on a lot of what built like
me as a person in character and relationships and friendships.
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They're trading that out financially, which is great because they
are taken care of financially, but they're losing out on
a lot of relational capital that I think was extremely
valuable and one thing that you know, added a lot
of happiness and added a lot to my life in general.
And I'm sure you can relate to that just kind
of the life. The life, you know, relationships that you make,
and I feel bad for the players that are trading
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out that out for a few bucks.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
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Speaker 7 (47:43):
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I do want to talk just for a second about
the UNIV story as it continues to evolve, the UNLV stories,
it continues to evolve, because we're gonna have on the
podcast where we have a pod only hour for this show,
(01:31):
and our guy Bernie Fratto is gonna join us on
the podcast is the Bernie Fraddo Show, which you can
hear weekends on Fox Sports Tradio. He's like mister Vegas
and the claims are now that like look and again,
a lot of you can tell a lot of what
somebody knows, not based upon what they say, but sometimes
based upon what they don't say that makes sense. So
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it appears like we know what happened. An assistant coach
said something about one hundred grand, and the kid went
with it, and then when they got there there was
no one hundred grand. And I'm gonna just add this
do a little real quick little storytelling for you, Okay,
real quick storytelling because money is involved, and they're both
(02:17):
two professional stints, and it happened essentially in back to
back weeks. For me, I was playing professionally in Israel,
playing for a club called Maccabi Ranana if you play
in Israel as an Israeli, and that's what at the time,
I had dual citizenship, so I could because I'm Jewish.
(02:40):
You can make what's called ali ah and you can
become a citizen of Israel while maintaining your citizenship in
the United States voting elections, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So in order to do it, you have to go
live there for a year, and also you have to
put yourself in the pool to be in the army.
(03:03):
We can tell we've told the army story a little bit.
We'll tell that at a different time. This is not
what it's about. It's about money, Okay. So I was
playing and we were having a little bit of a
disappointing season as a club. But part of it is
the year before they were in the biggest of euroleagues
and kind of overspent in order to do so, and
they were behind financially. It was it was during in Defad.
(03:25):
I was in two thousand and one, it was in
two thousand and two. It was not a great time
financially in Israel. Although it was, it wasn't incredibly safe time.
And yeah, I just I distinctly. Remember, okay, when again,
when you're in Israeli, when you're an American, you get
(03:47):
paid in dollars. When you're Israeli, you get paid in shekels.
In shekels, what's the difference. Well, the difference is again
they have to find the exact dollar amount to pay you,
and they pay you. Actually they wire it in dollars
into your American account, whereas they wired and shekels into
your American account. There's the factor of the currency, the
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currency exchange rate. So I was getting my payments several
days to a week late, and what the club was
doing because the money was tight, was they would wait
until the exchange rates were more favorable so they didn't
have to pay as much money. So I went to
the president of the club and I said, Sir, because
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I'm Israeli, I got to stay two extra months. I
got to go to basic training with it. With the army.
I wouldn't actually been in the army, would have been
a desk job, but I would have had to stay
after we had lost at some point in the playoffs
to get my maycheck and get my June check. I said,
if you will give me every penny that you owed
me have to go to court for it. Just look
me in the eye, tell me as a man, I'm
going to get every penny on my contract and in dollars.
(04:58):
And he said, we will do the best can And
I gave him another chance, and he said the exact
same thing. So I left and then I went to
the ABA, which was a minor league, and this was
in the early years of the G League was then
called the D League. But no one wanted to be
in the D League because you didn't make any money.
Very few people got called up. And it was a
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three year guaranteed, so if you it was a fifty
thousand dollars buyout, but in order to get bought out
by somebody outside of the NBA, they had to pay
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. People weren't paying hundred
fifty thousand dollars to buy out that level of player.
So the ABA was a minor league that had a
very small buyout incredibly talented rosters. Most the rosters were
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made up of guys that had played in the NBA
and a couple that were trying to make it in
the NBA. All those guys are trying to get it
get back, and I will I will not forget the
fact that my first practice, I flew in from Israel
to Detroit, Michigan, and we played the Detroit Dogs two
nights in a row at Junior College. It was a
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good crowd. Then we flew to Phoenix where we were
staying in Tempee, and we were practicing at a church
in Scottsdale, a church where we played, Like I say,
I got three thousand seat really nice church. And I
don't rememberf we practiced there. We practiced at a high
school or whatever. But I remember getting on the practice
floor and all of the rest of the players refused
to practice, and when the coach walked in, they were like, hey,
(06:27):
why are you guys not practicing? Like, we ain't got paid, man,
we ain't playing til we get paid. And for me,
because I had just signed with the team, I just
played in those games. I wasn't owed any additional money,
so I didn't have the right. So I actually had
a one unknown practice where all of my teammates were
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waiting for the owner to show up. Well, I ran
around and practiced in Arizona in the ABA, and sure enough,
the owner did walk in and again, I'll never forget
get it. You know, all the players are sitting down.
He's like, look, guys, we're going to get you paid
whatever we got to get you right right away. But
why aren't you practicing? And one of my teammates, one
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of my teammates said, if we worked at McDonald's and
we didn't get paid, why would we keep working at McDonald's. Right, So,
my thing is this with the UNLB deal, and this
is a real thing, and I would tell my own
players this because I've had this experience. Okay, there are
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NIL contracts that exist even at Green Bay, and within reason, right,
you have a contract, your set is supposed to be
paid at particular point in time. We did this with
with our players. So everyone gets a cost of attendance
check that's your normal scholarship check, plus a factor in
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what it would cost to live in Green Bay. And
then if you have an NIL check, it's ANIL check.
And our thing was we weren't back in school till
September fourth. Those were the first days of all payments,
and guys had rent that was supposed to be due
the first and it's not like they go like, don't
worry about rent. I got it. They had to do
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first and last already, and so they're a little tight.
I called the landlord and said, hey, can we get
this push back till September sixth. They all got their checks.
It was all fine, but you do run the risk
of guys going like, hey, man, I ain't doing anything.
Do I get my check? And I actually understand it.
The caveat is this though, and again I don't know.
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I was not involved. I understand what the former unv
quarterback is putting out there as this narrative. If you
agreed to an amount, and you were paid for that amount,
then you play. None of this other nonsense matters. And
if you sign a contract, then you absolutely play. But
his mistake was he shouldn't have played one single down
(09:01):
without having a contract, one single down without having a contract.
So Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Gigantic
game tonight, Giants Cowboys. Dak Prescott has won each of
his last twelve starts against the g Man, throwing for
at least one hundred and forty yards in each victory.
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It's the longest such streak by any NFL quarterback against
a single team over the past seventy five years. So
the Giants have stunk and the Cowboys have beaten them.
But man, do the Cowboys feel like they're a little
dysfunctional right now, don't they? And the Giants? Everybody gave
up on the Giants and then they jump up and
win a game last week. We'll give you our picks
(09:44):
and our predictions. But as I've told you, one of
the great joys of my life, Like, look, my kids
are the greatest joy of my life. They just make
me smile. My daughter today called me and uh small
talked for seven minutes before she asked me for gas money,
which I thought was wonderful. That's that's a great saleswoman already.
(10:06):
That she's going seven minutes before she asked me for money,
you know. Or some kids just send you a text, Dad, Dad,
I need gas money. He's the daddy. Yeah. But the
other joys of my life are watching the Dallas Cowboys lose,
and I think we can all unite. And it's one
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thing for them to lose and nothing to lose on
Monday night football to you to lose on Monday night
football to the Giants and Daniel Jones, Do I think
it happens. Probably not do I want to happen? You
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Who came up with this one? I think this is
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as bad ideas here in the Doug Gottlieb Show, especially
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We've had Jay Stu with several segments. Occasionally, Iowa Sam
gets in Moncy. Obviously she's got name with some ideas
as well. So I think Jase dou is this about
two months old.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Just to clarify, Iowa Sam rarely has anything. He has
cute bump music selections and he's got good drops and
he just played the crowd Noise, but he has yet
to delivered to me an idea for a bit. I'm
still waiting on that, but it's it's still early. He's
only he's only been in the business fifteen years now.
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Don't throw it. I'm most proud of the title of
this because a lot of people do throw back Thursday,
hashtag throwback Thursday, but I'm the one who came up
with the concept of the title and it goes back
to us, like these things that happened in sports. You'll like,
I remember what's the name of Hopkins of the Titans.
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I remember he was coming back from like a gambling
or a drug suspension or something, and he just went
on social media and said, don't call it a comeback,
but he was coming back because it was like six
games suspension. He hadn't played for a year, but it
was a comeback. He's coming back. But it's like been
a thing since Lael Cool Jay did the song like
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don't call it a comeback. So I did a little
uh spin off of that, and this is the name
of the segment here.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You see what I did there, don't throw I want
to go back ten years Doug on a Sunday night.
I think it was Cowboys versus the Giants on a
Sunday night. Uh. The internet broke because Odell Beckham Junior
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made maybe the greatest catch in the history of the NFL.
I think everyone has seen it if you haven't googled it.
But it was a one handed catch. I guess. I
think there was past interference on the play. The cowboy
defender was all over him. Just a crazy ass catch
that frankly made the guy a bunch of money and
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has made him maybe the most overrated player in the
NFL the last five years. Seems like every offseason there's
a there's an o Day Beckham Junior sweepstakes. Who going
to get him? Who's going to get Odell Beckham?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Because they all wanted to be back to twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh Beckham jun Yeah, and I think he's on the
Dolphins now doing nothing, probably hurt. But I do want
to focus on that night because if you think back
to twenty fourteen, Giants and Cowboys. Tony Romo was playing
in his final full season with the Cowboys. Remember the
next season he would get it hurt, and then the
season after that they would draft Dak Prescott and the
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rest is history. The Giants lost that game that night,
and they would they would go on to have I
think a six and ten season. I think this was
two years removed from their upset over the Patriots or
second upset over the Patriots and the Super Bowl. But
if you think about the Cowboys and Giants from twenty fourteen,
that year, that's kind of where we're at. The Cowboys
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won the division, they of course came up short, I
think to the Seahawks, who would go to the Super
Bowl and lose to the Patriots. Yes, but twenty fourteen, Doug,
what comes to mind when you think of that year.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
A lot of different things. When I knew you were
doing this year, I look back and I was like, wow,
there really wasn't very good movies that year. That was
one thing that jumped out in my mind. There wasn't
good movies that year. But it's one of the great
(15:27):
years in the history of the NBA. Do you remember
who won the NBA championship there.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Twenty fourteen, Doug was a year of a lot of
dynasties sort of not necessarily reaching their end, but maybe
being like the middle of it or kind of towards
the end. It was the San Antonio Spurs and was
that their last one so far? Was the last one
with Pop Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeahwiland that was also Yeah, as Quid learned, that was
the one where we did Lebron cramp up in Game
one in San Antonio was so hot those Kawi Land
was the MVP.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They upset the heat Yeah, yeah, did they?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Was it an upset?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I'm guessing the heatles? Come on? Were they? Actually? They
were never an underdog in that series, were they?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Twenty fourteen was the loan time that Mike Trout was
in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Wait, wasn't it was that twenty fourteen?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That's sad and I want to say he got swept
out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, although that might not be the year because that
was the year Kansas City was in the World Series, right.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Twenty fifteen, that was the Kansas City World Series winner.
They roy they win that year, went and watched the Giants.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And then they beat the Mets.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Or yes, the Royals beat the Mets, and then yes,
twenty fourteen it was the Giants when it was at
their third and five years.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Was that mad bum Oh yeah, speaking of mad the
most popular TV show at that time and it started
its final season it was mad Men. Madman one of
the greatest TV.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Shows that never watched it.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh, tremendous.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I still watch it now.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah. Yeah, it's dated because it was it's set in
the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Right, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Right, you need to watch it. You've been shows I
love BEINGI oh you need to find mad Men. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Man.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
If it's bad, I'm gonna blame you guys.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Fine, well, Don, then you have bad taste.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Don Draper is one of the greatest characters of all
time on TV. I think the one thing that you'll
find uncomfortable. And Christina has this thing she hates watching
shows or reading books about guys that cheat. If you
have that discomfort and you don't want to, I mean,
Don Draper's got a lot of weaknesses and that's that.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
John Hamm is he in there?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
N okay, okay, great show. What do you remember about
twenty fourteen, Malzi.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Twenty fourteen is when I started working for the Dodgers,
and I'm still there, so that's good. It's also when
I started working at Universal Studios as a VIP tour guide.
So a lot of memories there. But what stands out
to me in twenty fourteen sports wise, that was the
year that stupid Donald Sterling really derailed the Clippers' success
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because of all of the crap that came out and
he was banned from the league and you know, we
ended up losing to the Thunder and like it just
that's always I will always always think of that season
as the one that got away because of Donald Sterling.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And did you watch the show on FX clipped?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I actually didn't finish it. It's not It's fine, but
you know, it's not like it's not like a documentary.
It's obviously for entertainment purposes. So I think I got
like two episodes left. I was watching it when it
first came out, and then I was like, well, I
know what happens, and I found it more funny than
anything the way that they chose to execute it, like
(19:07):
with the casting and everything. But you know, I haven't
finished it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
The start of Steve Baumer that year? Was that it?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep. Toilets, Thank goodness for
those toilets.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
My dad died in twenty fourteen. Anybody wanted, like, I'm
not really sure that's the happy out happy note.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That everybody wanted ten years huh yeah, ten.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Years November wow, ten years November.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Godless.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I used to call them every night. So that was
I started working in August, so right about you know,
now a little bit earlier. From New York City, we
moved from California back to Westport, Connecticut. Love Westport and
drive home every night. People ask why I drive home.
I drove home so I could talk to my dad.
And the one night we were gonna we were going
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to California in like two days Thanksgiving, and uh actually
ironically had like the whole I have a brother and
a sister, they each have three kids, like all nine
grandkids are gonna be there whatever, And the night before
I didn't call him. I don't even know why. And
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then he had a brain bleed midle night and we
went out there and he was on the machines. We
turned out the machines. That was it. So yeah, ten
years ago. Happens happens?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
That is rough.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, really I would love to say I would
love to say it that. I Yeah, I mean like
I outwardly get over things really quickly. Inwardly, that one,
that one set me back a lot.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And you know, you probably think about it at the
ten year mark, right, You've been thinking about it this
whole time, but once that ten year mark rolls around,
you're reflecting on it.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, missing him, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, I don't know if I I didn't really that.
Maybe it's this spiking a pissed Jason. It's it been
ten years already.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
This time.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay, I appreciate that, though, Sam, you gotted something to
lighten the mood.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Please.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well ten years ago, I was still living in Iowa,
working a bunch of jobs and I would move out
to California in December of twenty fifteen. Not really lightning
the moon unless you want to laugh at the Iowah
Hawkeye football team. But they had a pretty who hum year.
They finished seven and five, and I believe that's the
year they got absolutely slayed slayed by Tennessee in the
(21:37):
tax Slayer Gator Bowl, horrible blowout. And they also got
blown out earlier that year by Minnesota, which doesn't happen often,
but it was like fifty one to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It was.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Coach Jerry kill really had them roll in there for
a little bit before he had to move on because
of health issues. But yeah, it was a seven and
six season for Iowa football and Jarry kills it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He's like retired three times because of healthing is he
is he? I think he's back somewhere.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He was with New Mexico State and I and they.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Won, like won the bowl game last year. I remember that.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And they had some somewhere this year scandals at New
Mexico State, both with the basketball and football programs because
of like hazing and stuff. So I would have to
double check if he's still there. But he's a great coach.
He just had the seizure issue where he you know,
got a little two worked up nervous and then have
these seizures on the sideline at Minnesota. But he really
had them humming. He had a really good culture in
place there before he had to take his health into consideration.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
But yeah, he's a consultant at Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Okay, so he said Vanderbilt and Vanderbilt opened to the
year I think two or three and zero before they
dropped one this past weekend. But yeah, great coach, I'm
sure boon to have on your staff. I noticed this
and I'm shocked that Monster didn't bring it up. The
album of the Year was nineteen eighty nine Nice. Nice
Of all of her albums.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
For those who don't know her music, how does nineteen
eighty nine rank nineteen?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
For me? It's probably it's not my favorite. My favorite
is Red, but nineteen eighty nine was a big one.
I think that's the one that had blank Space, which
was one of her bangers. Even the music video she
like destroys a car and I love it. That's what
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You'd ever describe a Taylor Shift's song as a banger.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I know I've said that to you before, and you
said this because they don't have that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Baseline like I think.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think the banger is like put down the windows,
rode down the windows, put down the top right, or
everybody's just like.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
We got a baseline kicking.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, you know what, You're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Shift's got bangers.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
You're not wrong. I just I love me.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I will tell you this. Fifteen always made me cry.
You think of my daughters. Yeah, my daughters were like
at the time, twenty fourteen, they were five, no, no, six,
they were eight, they were eight, and uh yeah, you
just think of them getting their heartbroken when they're fifteen
years old. You don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, that was a that's a great you're right, very emotional.
But yeah, in nineteen eight nine, I'm looking at the
list because I forget what albums have? What songs? Bad blood?
Great song? Great song? Bad blood?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
You speak for yourself, though, is can it be great song?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Great song? Banker?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
What else happened two thousand.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I'll tell you what the pop culture sensation of the year.
And it's a shock. It's a shocker that this didn't
work out. Kanye and Kim Kai got married. Oh joy?
Oh wow, but that my diary. How many kids.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Did I gaggle?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
That many?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Two or three?
Speaker 5 (24:46):
How many do they?
Speaker 7 (24:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's apparently that was part of the Ebola epidemic?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Was that year? Oh no, that was a four children? Sorry,
that's a great memory.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Actually, yeah, North Saint Chicago and Psalm mhm. Shall I
repeat that? North is eleven Saint is eight, Chicago is six,
Psalm is five. That's Kim K and Kanye's kids. Nice
a lot of alliteration there. You guys remember the ice
Bucket challenge, right that.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Was that was that summer. Yeah, we did it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
We should go back to a bola.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, it's actually a lot harder to get ebola than
you might think, Like COVID is way easier to get
than ebola, but.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's that was part of the thing with COVID was
how quickly it is.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But if you get ebola, you are kind of screwed,
kind of screwed.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
What is what what is the uh what's it called rate?
What's the like, what's the.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Word survivability or like mortality rate?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Mortality rate? Yeah, yeah, yes, I'll look it up while
you you will you wax poetic on abola because it
seems like you want to.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Well, I read I read this book called The Hot
Zone a long time ago by John crack Hour dude,
like Into the Wild, Into Thin Air.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, there was also a wasn there a movie Outbreak?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It was sort of like yeah, kind of about like
kind of the Marburg or Ebola virus, but just fascinating.
I want to say, though, like twenty thirty years ago before,
maybe they had more treatment or uh, you know, treatment
for ebola.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I think that the the mortality rate.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Like it would kill oh man, I want to say
sixty percent of people who.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The average averages fifty case ftatorates have varied from twenty
five to ninety percent.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah. And then here's a weird thing.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I've read about people who got over ebola, but
they still had the virus like incubating in their eyeballs.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Very strange.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Twenty fourth, Sorry you were done. I thought we were
done talking about Ebola. I'm try trying to move on
from Ebola.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Talking about it bowl. Yeah, it got into the US.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, and we did Kanye and uh impregnating Kim five times,
four times.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Four children, North Saint Chicago.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
She definitely uses surrogate for at least one of them.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Yeah, maybe even more of that. That was also the
year that I won because dude, it's a lot on
the body.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, I know, but couple, like, what's the difference.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I know, because you don't want to do it anymore.
She was like, I'll pay somebody, So I don't know.
I just assumed she's hard on the body. That was
the year they or.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Do you think Kenye got to stop laying the plane?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Stop dog?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
It's Hollywood might be part of the deal, right, surrogate right?
Who wasn't? Who announced last week David Dave grow right
that he has a he had one out of out
of wood luck. Yeah, and then they're gonna they're gonna
stay together. I mean, I'm sure he tried the surguate thing, babe.
(27:53):
Let's just try the surrogate Dan.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right, he really tried to get out in front of it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
That's not how the surrogate thing works.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Not how it works.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
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Stefan Diggs was a guy that super talented, but we
know his chili ran hot on the sidelines, So Josh
Allen didn't name him by name, but was he talking
about him when he described with this quote why his
season has gone so well and his receiving corp is
playing so well.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
When guys get to buy into this and really understand,
like I may not get the ball four or five
times thrown to me a game, but the one or
two times I do, I'm gonna have opportunities be in
the end zone. And it's a fun and wonderful thing.
When you got a bunch of guys that don't care
about the stats, they don't care about the touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Hmm was he huh? Was he referring to Stefan Diggs. There,
here's Josh Allen yesterday when asked him that he was
referring to Diggs.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Now, I know there's a lot of people talking out there. Again,
I'm not trying to tear down anybody. I've loved everybody
that I've played with, you know, and you don't have
to tear other people down to build each other up.
And you know, we're building each other up right now,
and that's all we're trying to do. We're trying to
stay together as a team, and we're really caring about
each other. And you know, everybody in this building's got
that feeling, you know what I mean. You know what
(30:13):
I mean, I with former whether it's former players. Yeah,
and again, I love I love fourteen, I still do.
But I everyone wants to keep making this thing a thing.
And you know, we're so focused on what's going on
inside of our building and that's the only thing that
we're caring about right now.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You buy it, I actually buy it. I actually truly
believe that he didn't mean anything by mentioning Stefan Dicks,
even if it ends up feeling like it's Stephan Dicks.
I actually believe that. I actually believe that maybe I'm gullible.
Do you guys really took the word gull about of
the dictionary. Somebody just told me that I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I think that we can. We can we meet halfway
on this. I think you're right. I think that he
in kind of like a galligy way, didn't mean any
harm towards Dix. But I think he inadvertently, by by
saying all those positive things about the current guys, he
was insinuating that it hasn't been the same in the past,
(31:15):
and there's only one guy that's not there from the past. Well,
maybe Gabe Davis left as well. Maybe he was referring
to Gabe Davis. Maybe we should start that rumor. But
I think we're I think you're right. I don't think
he meant to, But by by not, I don't know.
It just seemed like he meant too without meaning to.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Mm hmmmmm. I don't think that's what he meant. I
do think he meant. He's been in wide receivers. I
just don't think off the top of his head he
was like, Ooh, let me tell you why these guys
are better than Stefan Diggs. And here's why. I think
he's just his way of saying, like, look, these guys
are bought in, and that's what happens when you're bought in.
(31:54):
Stuck Gottlieb Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio, Danny Canale
joins US former NFL quarterback, stand out at starting quarterback
at Florida State, longtime college football analyst. Of course, he
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doing with the whole Florida State thing?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
I like it. It's like it's like it there's a
death in the family because of how things have collapsed.
For my knowls, I am doing just fine. I can't
say the same for Mike Norvell, for dj Uyungulaa, and
for a lot of the Seminole fan base, which is
just absolutely perplexed right now wondering how they could go
(32:45):
from a very popular pick and not trendy like it
picked that a lot of people looked at and said,
you know what, offense should be good, defense should be great. Yeah,
they can compete with anybody. And to start the season
zero and three. It's been one of the big collapses
that I can recall in the last ten to fifteen
years of college football, and I do say, like Mike
(33:06):
Novel is just trying to keep things together. They were
very competitive and got their first win against Cal last week,
so I guess it's like, man, maybe that first one
was the hardest. Let's see what they can do. But
the season, no matter how it shakes out, is going
to be well short of expectations.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Agreed Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
what about Clemson. Does this prove that that it doesn't
work to not go to the portal?
Speaker 7 (33:34):
No? I think, dabbl I think there's a chance Dabo
could have the last laugh. You know, the problem that
he faced is a Georgia problem, and that's a problem
that anybody would have fits with. And they were in
a tight game for a half and then the second
half they got blown out. But since then they have
all of a sudden really found themselves, and a lot
(33:55):
of that's to do with playing teams that aren't it
twent at Georgia. So here's here's where I get to.
I feel like Clemson can be a top fifteen program,
the way that Davo is going to go about things,
ignoring the portal building from within. But I think what
could be incredibly frustrating for Clemson fans. They want to
get back to the national titles. They want to get
(34:17):
back to beating teams like Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State.
And that's still that to me. I need to see
it before I believe, you know, before I can believe it,
because they still have When you look at some of
the composite numbers, which is basically a ranking of how
talented is your roster with four and five star players,
they're still ranked fifth in the country as far as
(34:37):
talent composite according to twenty four to seven Sports. So
even though they haven't hit the portal, they're still uber talented.
It's just some of that talent is a little bit
younger because they've got them, you know, in recruiting as
opposed to getting some veterans come in who are fifth
year seniors and as that have a lot of experience.
But Davo, I still believe in his culture and I
actually appreciated in somebody's a little bit more old school,
(34:59):
likes guys that want to stick around and he's trying
to buck the trend. I root for him, but I
still wonder how he is gonna do if he gets
to the playoff, which I think is probably a likelihood
now considering how they've rebounded, if they do have a
rematch against Georgia, or if they do have to play
Ohio State or Alabama or one of these elite institutions,
and I think I would give him a chance. Like
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even if they're a rematch against Georgia, if they could
figure out their offense and allow time for improvement, I
still think they could be a team to be reckoned
with in the national title rate.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's the voice of Danny Knell. He joins us here
in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, speaking
of Georgia Obama this weekend in Tuscaloosa. What do you think?
Speaker 7 (35:41):
So this is pretty wild because coming into the week
my lean was Georgia just based on Kirby Smart, you know,
the job that he's done, consistent winner. Alabama has a
lot of question marks, you know, with Kaylyn de Bore
taking over for Nick Saban. But then I start looking
at the records and I'm like, Okay, Kirby Smart is
one in five against Alabama the program, you know, and
(36:03):
granted that was against Nick Saban. He's been awesome against
everybody else. So I'm trying to look at it and say,
all right, well, what is it? Was it a Nick
Saban problem? I think it's an Alabama problem. For one
of the few times that they play across the entire season,
Georgia is actually facing a team with as much or
more talent than he's got. It's in Tuscaloosa. Jaln Milroe,
(36:25):
I think has the quarterback advantage over Carson Beck, especially
considering the way the season has gone off to a
little bit of a bumpy start for the Bulldogs. I
think Carson Beck misses brought Bowers and Lad McConkey, two
of his favorite targets, and Brock Bowers is really probably
that was his biggest security blanket in clutch situation, and
they have not figured out who that guy is going
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to be yet. So I look at all factors combined
where the game is being played in Tuscaloosa, Jaln Milroe's legs,
I think are going to be the X factor. I'm
going to take Bama. I'm going to take the two
and a half points, and I don't hate Bama to
win the game outright, I do think this will be
a defensive slug fest, like, hey, keep the other team
at bay, don't let Milroe beat you with his legs,
(37:07):
don't let Georgia beat you with a big play. So
I kind of also like the under but I'm gonna
go ahead and take Bama as a home dog, which
is something we have not seen since two thousand and seven,
for them to be an underdog playing at home.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I was told that Oklahoma had the savior. His name
was Jackson Arnold. Dylan Gabriel had a good year, was
in some Heisman discussions. You know, he lose to Oklahoma
State late, and then he puts himself in the portal.
Now he's at Orgon. But I don't worry. Jackson Arnold's
the guy. We're only a couple weeks in and now
they're starting another freshman on the road at Auburn after
(37:42):
losing their sec home opener to Tennessee. I guess my
question is, like, what do we think the how much
kind of slack do you think is going to be
given to this staff, to Brent Fennibles if in fact
they finished seven and five this year.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
Oh, he'll be catching some serious heat from Oklahoma fans.
He's got security because Bret Bennold has just just given
a nice contract extension before this season, So like the
buyouts way too much to even consider him to really
be on the hot seat. It'll just make things really
uncomfortable for him around Norman because the expectation is you
(38:27):
guys to be competing for national championships and yet and
you just became like Lincoln Riley was there, they were
getting ten wins a year. Bob Soups was there ten
wins a year that wasn't a big twelve. And what
makes it really uncomfortable is that SEC fans have been
telling Oklahoma fans for the past three or four years
since we knew they were going to the SEC, oh,
(38:47):
you guys are going to be five hundred when you
get to the SEC. And you know what, you can't
say you're wrong, like you're gonna say, oh, maybe you
guys were right. The whole quarterback dilemma that a lot
of schools are in now, Doug is pretty wild because
I have noticed an epidemic of just a lack of
confidence from a lot of young quarterbacks. The minute they
(39:08):
face adversity, or they have a rough game, or the
fans start to boo, or they throw a pick six,
they absolutely bundle up and just shut it down. And
you can see it. When I was watching Jackson Artold
against Tennessee and even the previous week against Tulane and
before that against Houston, I saw a young quarterback who
was really struggling with his confidence and his belief in himself.
(39:32):
And I think it's a trend we're seeing it. I mean,
DJ Youngolay at Florida State is I see him with
the exact same look in his eye, and he's not young,
but he's faced with adversity and all of a sudden,
they just lose their confidence. And I don't know where
it comes from. I don't know it's the pressers of
social media, if its anxiety is up across the younger generation.
(39:53):
I don't know if it's because a lot of these
quarterbacks don't face adversity in high school because they usually
go to a team where they're guaranteed the spot and
they have guaranteed the chance for a state championship. But
there aren't many quarterbacks that have been able to battle
through it. And so now you're seeing Oklahoma just go
to the backup. All right, we've seen it enough too.
We're going to make that change and Jackson Arnold probably
(40:14):
will move on from Oklahoma and I'll go on to
his next stop after the season. But what I would
like to see, and we're seeing this somewhat a couple
of schools. Avery Johnson at Kansas State's another example. He's
just coming off a two interception games. I would love
to see a quarterback show some resolves, show some mental toughness,
show some belief in himself and a staff as well
(40:35):
to allow them to play their way through some difficult situations.
Any quarterback that's ever been with the salt that has
been considered great, either in college or that pros have
been through those tough times. We've all been there. You
just have to figure out a way to fight through it.
And for whatever reason, we're seeing more quarterbacks crumble under
the pressure of college football than we've ever seen before.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's a great point. That's a great point. Or maybe
we're just it's more noticeable. Yeah, And we and they're
making more money. Now, speaking of the money, what's your
thoughts in the unov thing.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
It's a disaster, you know, I mean, it just really is.
I mean, this is kind of where we are with
college athletics today. I mean, this is kind of and
I'm sorry you probably are like the same mindset. Well,
this is what everybody wanted, right, we wanted everybody to
be paid. Where I'm at now, Doug, and I don't
know where you are is Okay, we've gone down this road.
Let's just fully get there. Let's just make them employees.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Can't let them.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
You can't make them employees like people. People need to stop.
They don't understand. You can't make your employees. You can't
make them the same employee as as a as an
executive assistant, or as the sociology teacher. You can't. Now,
they'll they'll have to get some sort of approval from
the works for them.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
What if the courts force them to.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I don't think that they they they it will. It
will crush the university systems.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I just do.
Speaker 7 (41:59):
That's what I'm verified about.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Not how it worse. I mean, I'll give you an example, Okay,
this example to hire an assistant coach in the University
of Wisconsin system. Okay, I have to conduct interviews. Then
I have to form a committee. They have to conduct interviews. Okay,
you have to go through a CA THOROL background check
like it's it is not an overnight process. You can
get emergency hires, but it has to go through the chancellor,
(42:23):
and there's a limited number of them. So you mean
to tell me for eighty five scholarship players, I have
to have a committee and go through all these like
just and again that's not even beginning to get to
all the other stuff like it's and and everything becomes taxed,
and then all their benefits become taxed. It just becomes
a mess. But I think we're like a year away
(42:45):
with if they if they come to an agreement on
the twenty two million dollars, which is essentially like a
sort of salary cap, right, that becomes interesting. Whereas all
that money can be you know, fed back to the athletes.
But then there's quite of Okay, what about Title nine?
Does that have any any place here? And you still
have an nil collective either in house or out of house,
(43:07):
that doesn't have to do with that twenty two million dollars.
It's it's still very very interesting, don't you.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
Feel like it's all an absolute mess though, because even
that twenty two million is all of a sudden, that agreement,
that settlement that was agreed upon, is being fought by
some attorneys that are saying, no, no, no, no, that's not enough.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Oh no, it's never good. It's never gonna it's never
it's it's never going to be enough. Right, it's never
for for anybody. Right, That's that's how it's going to work.
And what they'll end up doing is they'll rob Peter
to pay Paul. They'll they'll bankrupt the system, uh right,
and they'll there'll be a fewer number of teams. Where
really where the people are really upset is that the
payments for this thing, where the back pay to the
(43:46):
you know in the NCAA is made up a member
institution's the non power four power five. They have to
pay like sixty percent of the bill, even though like
none of it had anything to do with programs like mine.
It was all the high majors. But the caveat is like, hey,
if you want to keep make the NCAA tournament, have
it survive and that's where everybody makes money, then you're
gonna have to pay in for this thing. So it's
(44:08):
it is. It is a mess.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
It's what I worry about is that I think it's
I think a lot of college football fans and college
basketball fans I'm sure too, are getting this interested now.
They're still coming back and they're going to watch the
big programs. But I do worry about the hardcore fans
who do shell out money to go to games and
who do want to watch and want to root for
(44:31):
a program, and they see stories like this and they
just and I see it all the time on social media.
Is Man, I'm done, and I don't want to lose
those fans. And I don't know if we will. Maybe
they're just saying that and they just threaten them, but
they're going to come back on Saturdays to watch. And
really the problem is I don't I don't know who's
its fault, like and I don't blame the kid. I
don't blame the quarterback in UNLV. If he was told
(44:53):
he was going to be paid, I think we would
all do the same. I think, you know, the school,
I don't know if it was the collective without communicating
with the coaching staff who guaranteed him some money, and
the coaching staff's like, what the heck do you want
us to do? We're not even allowed to do this.
And the agent who's out there who doesn't have a
written contract is out there trying to say we got
screwed over, and yet he was the one who agreed
to this deal verbally without a written contract. It's just
(45:15):
an absolute mess and what I hope for And I
don't this is a problem because I think we all
sit around and we're like, yeah, this all sucks. There's
no end in sight. Because I just saw, literally as
I was waiting for the phone call to talk to you,
I saw a Florida Gator who's entering the portal because
it's three games and he wants to go somewhere else,
And like, there's no contractual obligations on either side, there's
(45:37):
no protections for either side until we get to that place,
We're just going to continue to see more and more
stories like this one. Yeah, don't I wish I had
the answers because it's incredibly frustrating and I'm sure. I mean,
every coach that I talked to is just like helpless,
Like I don't know, like I try to keep my
players happy. I don't know, what my roster's going to
(46:00):
look like in a month. But I do my best
to try to develop team chemistry and camaraderie. But it's
really hard because half my team is brand new and
they haven't even been here for four months, and I'm
gonna lose them and there's gonna be just as much turnover.
It's it's just a mess, and it kind of it
makes me sad because I loved my experience of going
to college with a class like the class that I
(46:22):
went into. The freshman class, we would talk smack against
the other classes and we had pride, and then when
we were all seniors, we'd look at the freshman class
and be like, are you guys have to uphold the standards?
Can you win as many championships as we did? And
we all like, I still have tech chains with guys
that I played with, you know, twenty five thirty years
ago that were all part of my freshman class together.
(46:44):
And I look around and I see some of these
players and their freshman class is like a fraction of
what it was like. There's like two guys that maybe
lasted a lot of these programs for four to five years,
and it bumps me out because I think people, I
think as much as financial and steps of as there is,
they're missing out on a lot of what built like
me as a person in character and relationships and friendships.
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They're trading that out financially, which is great because they
are taken care of financially, but they're losing out on
a lot of relational capital that I think was extremely
valuable and one thing that you know, added a lot
of happiness and added a lot to my life in general.
And I'm sure you can relate to that just kind
of the life. The life, you know, relationships that you make,
and I feel bad for the players that are trading
(47:29):
out that out for a few bucks.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
He's the one and only Danny Knell. Of course, he's
here on baff A bet Online. She got bet online
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Football Week five lines. DK, You're the best, man, Thanks
for joining us.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
Awesome. Don take care man,
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