September 30, 2024 • 28 mins
Doug riffs on the Alabama win over Georgia Saturday night. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on the Ravens. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Lamar Jackson makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlie Show Years in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Up? Doug Gotley Show with the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Here's my question.
How good? How good was that football game Saturday night?
(00:36):
I mean it was like a tale of two games
and having Saban there and you know, like Georgia looking
so out of it and you know, just getting smoked
early and they come back and they take the lead.
It had so many different elements to it. You know,
the old coach there. Georgia of course had kind of
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taken their mantle one the last and won two of
the last three national titles. And you know, then you have,
you know, big money quarterbacks for both teams. You have
a seventeen year old who reclassed to be a wide
receiver making the game winning catch and play for Bama.
I mean that thing was incredible. What a game. And
(01:20):
I don't know what the ratings are on it, but
I don't know anybody who watches college sports. I didn't
like that one, whereas Sunday was kind of man, it
was a little matt you know, and now we get
more and more water down because you got not that
the Monday night games are that good, but the Sunday
night game was very good. The Thursday night game had
the Cowboys and the Giants, so that'll take some of
the viewership kind of pizazz away from it, and the
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rest of us kind of mad. Saturday night killed, Saturday
Night killed, and two incredible comebacks. You had Oklahoma, I
don't know how they found a way to win that
game against Auburn. And then of course you had Georgia
coming from a couple of touchdowns down to take the lead,
and then Alabama jumps back and takes the lead and
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wins the game. At the end of it, that was
I don't know how much you guys watched. I thought
that was incredible. But the interesting part about it is,
you know, you get basically one year of carryover. You know,
Nick Saban's not the coach Debor is, and he's an
amazing quarterback coach. Obviously, good play color as well. It's
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not the defensive side the ball. Nobody pays attention to it.
They have dudes, But that's also Nick Saban's area of expertise.
And my guess is that starting next season you start
to see some slippage there. I could be wrong and
maybe they're able to pass it off from you know,
one Hall of Fame coach to the next Hall of
Fame coach. But usually when you have these big names,
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the discipline oriented guys, the guys that have done it,
you know, one way for a long time and just
had incredible success and all that saban, it's usually year
two where that culture that they established starts to find.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
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Speaker 2 (03:10):
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for your previous portion of Fox Sports Trader Fox Sports One.
This is LeVar Errington and Brady Quinn talking about the
continued skepticism surrounding Sam Darnald.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
They're going to continue to until it just continues happening.
That's just how skeptics work. Like Sam Darnald isn't going
to outperform the skeptical feelings of what could possibly be,
so he's just got to keep winning.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I mean, that's just what is he trying to not
be burdened by what has been is what it is.
I hope he's not being burt.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I hope he's just playing because at the end of
the day, like like you know, it's been said, has
been stated. He is now for the first time, arguably
in a great, great situation, in a great position to
win and have success. He hasn't always had that, so
I wouldn't be burdened with that. If I'm him, I'm
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looking at it like I'm gonna just keep dealing. We
keep dealing because at the end of the day, this
is my opportunity. I've moved around. People can think what
they want to think, they can feel how they want
to feel. But I got a team. We played defense,
great great strategist on the defensive side of the ball,
and I got a plethora of weing weapons on this
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offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And this is just that it looks sustainable.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think it looked sustainable. I mean, I thought he
played really well yesterday. He didn't see a blitz get
hit the back on the blind side. He wasn't perfect,
but there were some throws that were outstanding. He's good
on the move. He doesn't cost you a ton. I
don't know, I you know, and I understand. I mean,
maybe JJ McCarthy's really really, really good good, But I
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don't think you have to make a decision on any
of that until the season's over. You know, let him cook,
support him, treat him like as your starter, and then
at the end of the year you can kind of
go back and figure out, all, right, where do we
where do we go with this? I don't And I
also I'm not gonna outside of Janie Daniels, right, the
other rookie quarterbacks aren't playing well, But that doesn't mean
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that JJ McCarthy wouldn't have played well. I just you know,
I did have questions about him being drafted that high
in the draft, but I don't know. Like Sam Darnold,
this has happened before. We've seen it with Raindo Cunningham.
We've seen him with Kurt Warner, right, Kurt Warner and
his you know, people forget he went to the Giants
and he had the hand injury and he could you know,
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he got They end up drafting Eli Manning and then
he went to Arizona and that was for They drafted
Matt Lioner, but eventually beat out Liner. So I don't
know how where we end up, but I do know
that he's playing very well. They're winning football games, and
they weren't. You know, there's no cutting him or trading
him before the season's up anyway, So see how the
season goes, and then you can make a determination. Then
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this is Dan Patrick talking about the Jets.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
If you've listened to the show, you know that I
don't think Robert sala is a head coach. You know,
he's a defensive coordinator. But I watch and there's so
many things that go into being a head coach. If
you're just a defensive coordinator, you worry about being a
defensive coordinator. He's got to worry about a lot of things.
He's got to worry about leaks in the building, to
the media, going to a press conference, trying to explain
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why he keep somebody or got rid of somebody. Oh
my god, it's just jetsy and football. They have the talent,
they have weapons, defense is good. This is coaching. It
just is it's coaching. And you know, we may look
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back on this loss and say, oh that Jets didn't
make the playoffs, didn't make the wild card. Look at
the division right now. Buffalo just got roughed up. The
Dolphins don't have Tua, Patriots don't know who they are.
You have a great, great opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Uh yeah, they do. But I'm listening a lot of
times on this segment we disagree with the host, whoever
gets the opinion. I completely agree with Dan Patrick on
this one.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I just do.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The defense has always been brash and really good, but
they also they take a lot of chances and there's
a lot of penalties, and then offensively, you know, obviously
that just thing hasn't worked, and they just don't look
like a good, well coached team. It's really the only
way that they have some good pieces, they don't look
like a well coached team. And I don't know how
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you can defend it when Robert Sala has been there
for long enough and had his own GM, and they
do have an opportunity, right The Bills are good, but
they're not they you know, they got exposed little bit
last night. Patrits are not good and the Dolphins have talent,
but no quarterback right now, and you know, who knows
when Tua is going to come back? If he's going
to come back. This is a great opportunity for the Jets,
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but I just don't think they have the weaponry at
coach to do.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
So.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Here's Colin Coward talk about Lamar.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
People love athletic quarterbacks except Lamar Jackson, and he's the
best at it. I mean, Johnny Manzel comes out. I
was assured I didn't buy it, but he'd be great.
And I have defended Kyler Murray but he's tiny and
regressing and hard to coach. And then I was told
Justin Fields and Anthony Richardson, and it's like, I know
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what it looks like when it's great, and what it
looks like when it's great's Lamar Jackson, who, because of
his work, ethic and his passion, has become the soul
of the city, the soul of the franchise. Lamar Jackson's unbelievable.
He's the greatest all time running talent, and now Baltimore
finally got him a star back who's healthy, really nice receivers,
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Mark Andrews Titan, And this is what it looks like.
Think about Buffalo. A week ago, we thought Buffalo was
the best team in the world. They gave up last
night they quit. They just they had they couldn't stop
him nine yards of play in the first half. This
is a guy that is twenty one and one against
the NFC, and Chris collins Worth pointed this out, there's
no way to prepare for Lamar Jackson. Your best bet
(09:24):
is to be Cleveland, Cincinnati or the Steelers. You see
him a couple times a year, and you kind of
understand the game speed and his ability. Those teams have
a much better shot.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah. I mean, like, let's just let's not forget that
they were zero and two and could have easily been
oh to three when they played the Cowboys. So I
like Lamar and he's obviously evolved quite nicely into much
more of an NFL quarterback than he was when he
came out. But there's also times in which he's just
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erratic and throwing you know, intermediate underneath stuff, stuff that
you got to be accurate. There was a nice deep ball.
We don't all like we like athletic quarterbacks. I think
everybody likes Lamar. I actually think his athleticism and his
personality has given him a pass sum for the fact
that he has been less than less than what's desired.
(10:22):
Especially outside the numbers, outside the numbers, you know, twenty
yards down the field. Like he's just not crazy accurate,
and that's that's always been his limiting factor. But I
don't think anybody dislikes lamar, I don't. I don't know
where that one might come from. That's what the Fox
said say.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
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Speaker 2 (10:51):
Let's find out who what's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And now it's your annoying?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Hey, Doug.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
I figured we could either go like kind of light
and fun coming off the NFL weekend, or we could
just hit the heavy issues and don't shy away from
it and be unabashed with our opinions about heavy issues.
You repurposed this story over the weekend, so I'm guessing
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you also find it annoying. Christine Brennan. For our careers,
you and I go back a long time in this business.
Christine Brennan has been a massive voice for women's sports.
I think she's done a column for USA Today for
I don't know how long. I think she was originally
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a beat reporter, you know, just a journalist, journalist that
has always advocated for women's sports, and a lot of
times she goes way too far left for my sensibility,
but that's fine. Whatever. So this past weekend, the WMBA
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has pushed to revoke her credentials for the postseason, and
they put out a statement basically saying that so called
an interview that you did with Dja Carrington last week
was a blatant attempt to bait a professional athlete into
participating into a narrative that is false and designed to
fuel racism, homophobia, and misogynistic vitriol and social media. Do
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not hide behind your tenure or your credentials like just
a scathing rebuke. And in case listeners aren't familiar, djn
A Carrington, who is the girlfriend of Kitlin Clark's teammate,
got Caitlin Clark in the eye. I think what it
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wasn't a postseason game, or maybe it was, maybe it
was the first postseason game. It looked accidental. But Christine Brennan,
I guess, had heard a lot online about it not
maybe not being accidental, and she had this exchange with
Djene Carrington last week when you.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Went and kind of swatted at Caitlin, did you intend
to hit her in the eye? And if so, could
you just earthen out?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Either way?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Could you talk about what happened on that play.
Speaker 10 (13:18):
I just I don't even know why I would intend
to hit anybody in the eye. That doesn't even make
sense to me. But no, I didn't. I didn't know
I hit her. Actually, I was trying to make a
play on the ball, and I guess I followed through
and I hit her. So obviously it's never intentional. That's
not even like the type of player that I am.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
So yeah, did you and Marina kind of laugh about
it afterwards? It looked like you there was later on
the game they caught you guys laughing about it.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
No, I just told you I didn't even know I
hit her, So I can't laugh about something I didn't
know happened.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I think you can argue. I think it can be
argued that maybe the one of questioning was out of
left field or something. But Journalists Ask Questions USA Today
took up for Christine Brennan. Journalists ask questions and seek truth.
We reject the notion that the interview perpetuated any narrative.
(14:10):
Christine Brennan is well regarded as an advocate for women
and athletes, but first and foremost, she's a journalist many layers.
This is annoying, Doug, but I just think that the WNBA,
this is so on brand. They're trying to, I guess,
rid any negativity from coming into their sport. They're going
to try to be the gatekeepers of negativity.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Good luck with U.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, the first thing is, if we're honest, that's about
as bad a Q and A as you're ever going
to find. Okay, So what I'm gonna do? These two
things can both be true. I don't think Christine Brennan's
especially good at her job.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But the other part to it, which you said, you
can be not great at your job and still not
be the level to which I don't. I mean the
comments from the w is that the w NBA PA
correct is just comical and laughable, right, Like, here's what happens.
(15:14):
And we've talked about this sum on this podcast especially,
is like we our default is to racism, sexism, always
something negative, instead of like, hey, maybe she's just not
that good at her job, which I think is the
case here, because if you are going to lash out
at one of your biggest advocates and supporters, then how
(15:35):
does everybody else in the media world look at it?
They just do And plus not a lot of people
spend time pay attention at all to an interview or
listen to that sound. They just simply say, like, Christine
ran like and she kind of a feminist and they're
attacking her. If you listen to the interview, it's it's
honestly awful because she does she does the three things
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that you should never do. The first two. It happens,
but she should be better at it than she is.
It's just who what when?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Why?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
How?
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Who?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What?
Speaker 9 (16:07):
When?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Why? How? What happened between you and Caitlin Clark when
she got poked in the eye? Right, that's the question.
And then she says talk about which is not a
question in dan listen to that. Can we play that
first question one more time? I mean, this is it's
awful interviewing stuff for somebody as experienced as Christine is.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
When you went and kind of swatted at Caitlin, did
you intend to hit her in the eye? And if so,
could you just ear if not either way. Could you
talk about what happened on it?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Could you talk about it? Why does she?
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Like?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What? In what world is that a good question? It's
so bad when you swatted at her, did you intend? No,
you don't have to ask for that. What happened? Why
did it look like? Why would why could or how
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would anybody believe that could be intentional or whatever? Just
let her talk, ask her a question and then talk
about is. I mean, that's like basic stuff. So yeah,
I mean, I just I'm at it like two different parts.
One is Christine Brennan's always kind of been just okay,
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And the other part to it is this it's just
a joke. What the WNBA PA is trying to do it?
You know, I don't even know what was the claims
of racism from Fever fans when somebody put Taylor Clark's
face on some other body like in a meme. Like,
I don't even know what the hell they're talking about,
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just the idea that people come to a WNBA game
are racist when they cheer against you. I mean, the
Fever have like two white players maybe three that play
like so they don't like their own team. I don't
really understand it's stet league has always been so incredibly,
so incredibly toxic in their pushback of any sort of coverage.
(18:14):
They're that like the college fan that if you don't
know everything about everybody in our roster, then fuck you.
If you don't kiss our ass and tell us how
great our school is, then fuck you. And then of
course the second that their school loses a game, they
say the same things about their own coaches. You're not
allowed to say that for as an outsider, that on
steroids is what the WNBA is.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You're right, exactly right.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
So I want to make a commentary on the degree
of brutality and violence in recent fights at stadiums. I
don't know if you saw it, but the one that
went viral yesterday was I think during the Falcons and
Saints game, where you had a gentleman getting his head
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pounded into the concrete by someone else's foot. The recaps
of this fight was that the man that was getting
his head pounded almost lost his life. I think that
it's disturbing, and you know, on many levels, but I
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saw at least six or seven angles of this fight.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
This was the most.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Well covered fan fight by smartphones and the history of
fan fights, and you just start to think to yourself,
it's a matter of when, not if, that one of
these fans gets killed. And I hope that each of
those people that were holding the smartphone, instead of doing
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something or getting involved or trying to slow down the
situation or de escalate, I hope they lose sleep for life,
because catching something so that you could put it on
the internet later is the priority, and preventing a guy
from getting a stomped to death was not a priority.
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I don't know what this says about our civilization. I
thought civilizations were supposed to evolve, But what we've seen
over the last four or five years in society, I
have a I'm skeptical that we're evolving. It seems like
we're going backwards. You could say that there've always been
fights at stadiums, and it's just smartphones are catching more
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of them. Okay, but the degree of brutality. You and
I spoke a couple of weeks ago. You're like, did
you see the fights at the Raiders and Chargers game.
There was like ten of them. Yeah, I did, and
I had to look away in most of them. They're
not they're they're they're disgusting. They're sick to They make
me sick to my stomach. So the degree of brutality
I think is getting worse just the eye test. Civilizations
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are supposed to evolve. I don't know where we got
to this place where we started to go backwards. But
it's not Uh, it's not cool. And I think this too.
Soccer hooligans for decades have been maiming and killing the
opposing fans. Okay, I will say the soccer hooligans for
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the most part are from less civilized countries, like they're
just their citizenry is not what would you say, up
to the standards of what the United States claims to be,
Are we going to become just another country of soccer
hooligans that kills fans at sporting events.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
There was a lot to unpacked there, but I agree
with you, like we have gotten it went from videos
of fights that you feel like has already happened to well,
these are way worse and this is gross and everybody
in them you just like just watching somebody rail on
the dude, especially guys fall down. They're punching them and
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kicking them in the head. Like you do realize you
can do brain damage, and what was the guy that
the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Fan Brian Stipe. I want to say Brian's.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean that poor guy, you know, he had
brain damage is never the same as a human being.
So I don't know what our role is other than
not retweeting it. And I've I've retweeted it and felt
super guilty afterwards. So I've stopped retweeting it. But I
don't know if that actually does does anybody any good?
Speaker 8 (22:23):
So fight fan fights Christine, the Christine Brennan ordeal and
oh I didn't even get to my third Oh man,
this is good. Bear with me here on this one.
So did you see the Jets game yesterday? They lost
to the Broncos. Right, and the Jets offensive line I
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think fall started like four or five times. And you know,
because Aaron Rodgers has always had this amazing cadence where
he gets the other.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Team to jump off side.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I saw this too, Yeah, like he weed's the world.
And I think I think they had I think they
had five false starts.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
So so afterwards, Robert Sola was asked about the cadence
and he said, this last.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Year, I think you guys were one or two in
the NFL. Tell he's now this year, I think you're four.
Speaker 11 (23:10):
What needs to change to clean it up? Oh, we've
got to figure it out whether or not we're good
enough to handle all the We're ready to handle all
the kidens. Cadence had not been an issue all camp
felt like our operation had been operating pretty good. Obviously,
today it took a major step back.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
So then Aaron Rodgers was asked about his head coach, saying,
maybe we need to take a look at the cadence, the.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
Cadence specifically, Robert said, there might be something you guys
have to dial back a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Is that something you think could potentially help the situation.
Speaker 12 (23:46):
It's a fun way to do it. The other ways
hold them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue.
We've had one false start. Morgan had one false start,
I believe until this so it's been a weapon. We
use it every day in practice. You know, we rarely
have a false start, and to have I don't know
five today it seemed like four or five. Yeah, it
seems like an outlier. I don't know if we need
to make mass changes based on you know, kind of
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an outlier game.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Classic Aaron Rodgers. Right, That's called the opposite of being
lockstep with your coach.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And that's my point.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
The New York media gets, I guess, gets credited for
being hard on their teams. But the New York media
I thought, has come up short in this regard. A
couple weeks back when they had that hug thing, that
hug exchange and then Aaron Rodgers gave him a death stare,
I thought the New York media was kind of lazy afterwards,
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and following up on that, they allowed both of the
parties to give answers like, hey, I'm not much of
a hugger and there's something about two score. You know,
they never really gave any reason for why there was
this death stare by Aaron Rodgers. So you fast forward
to today and Boomer Siasin goes on New York Radio
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and says what the New York media has been reluctant
to even follow up on. I try to watch to.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
See if I see any interactions on the sideline or anything. Nothing. Nothing.
I see a guy walking right past the other guy.
I can't imagine that. And when I see Aaron Rodgers
on the sideline and I see him after the game
in the postgame press conference. You know, and again I'm
speculating here, but yesterday's day postgame press conference, there is
a major issue there, and they bult will deny it,
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I guarantee it, but there is an issue there, and
it's because you have this forty year old Hall of
Fame quarterback to be dealing with a coach that I
think he doesn't respect.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I get this feeling a lot when I do when
I watch politics and politicians getting interviewed, I get so
frustrated at the lack of follow up with the reporting.
They just allow people to lie and then they don't
hold him accountable. It's like that whole thing with the
exchange at you know, in the middle of the field
room in the season. I just didn't feel like there
was enough follow up. And I think Boom are sitting
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on something. Do you do you agree?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't think there's any question he said on something
that there's absolutely positively something going on there where they
I don't know if they don't like each other or
I just think it's I don't think he regards him
as a very good coach. I think that's really kind
of simply what it is. I wish I could say
it was something more like a bigger deal than that,
(26:24):
but I agree. I don't know if it's it doesn't
respect him or what, but I definitely don't think he
thinks he's a very good coach.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
So that situation to me, the kind of lack of
journalism and the New York media and the Christine Brennan
story and the fan fights.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh, I don't think there's anything close to the how
annoying the WNBA is, right, I just don't get me wrong.
Like there's a lot of stuff that's annoying. And then
the lack of follow up by the New York media
also is annoying, although in this case they let Aaron
Rodgers kind of I don't even want to say himself
or he allowed you know, I mean, nobody was searching
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for this story that he just kind of brought to us.
But nonetheless there was a lack of like follow up
to exactly what those comments meant. But I you know,
the w NBA attacking Christine Rennet, who's been like your
only champion in national print media, I yeah, they're not.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Lamar Jackson had a big night last night and then
he did the postgame interview on Live TV.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
You told us that people underestimate Derek Henry speed, that
you even underestimated it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
How fast is he?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Curse? Oh no, man, he different. You've seen him. He
started putting away from gods. He just man, that's the
key hearing man, can't hear it?
Speaker 8 (28:00):
I almost cursed.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's so good, so good? Uh? He is he is
so big that he's Is he bigger than Christian Nakoye.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Size wise?
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah, I don't know if he's as bulky, but I'm
guessing same same around the same category.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Man. I mean, he's just an absolute man among boys. Man, boys,
why can we play for you? Because we can. That's
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Up? Doug Gotley Show with the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Here's my question.
How good? How good was that football game Saturday night?
(00:36):
I mean it was like a tale of two games
and having Saban there and you know, like Georgia looking
so out of it and you know, just getting smoked
early and they come back and they take the lead.
It had so many different elements to it. You know,
the old coach there. Georgia of course had kind of
(00:56):
taken their mantle one the last and won two of
the last three national titles. And you know, then you have,
you know, big money quarterbacks for both teams. You have
a seventeen year old who reclassed to be a wide
receiver making the game winning catch and play for Bama.
I mean that thing was incredible. What a game. And
(01:20):
I don't know what the ratings are on it, but
I don't know anybody who watches college sports. I didn't
like that one, whereas Sunday was kind of man, it
was a little matt you know, and now we get
more and more water down because you got not that
the Monday night games are that good, but the Sunday
night game was very good. The Thursday night game had
the Cowboys and the Giants, so that'll take some of
the viewership kind of pizazz away from it, and the
(01:43):
rest of us kind of mad. Saturday night killed, Saturday
Night killed, and two incredible comebacks. You had Oklahoma, I
don't know how they found a way to win that
game against Auburn. And then of course you had Georgia
coming from a couple of touchdowns down to take the lead,
and then Alabama jumps back and takes the lead and
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wins the game. At the end of it, that was
I don't know how much you guys watched. I thought
that was incredible. But the interesting part about it is,
you know, you get basically one year of carryover. You know,
Nick Saban's not the coach Debor is, and he's an
amazing quarterback coach. Obviously, good play color as well. It's
(02:27):
not the defensive side the ball. Nobody pays attention to it.
They have dudes, But that's also Nick Saban's area of expertise.
And my guess is that starting next season you start
to see some slippage there. I could be wrong and
maybe they're able to pass it off from you know,
one Hall of Fame coach to the next Hall of
Fame coach. But usually when you have these big names,
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the discipline oriented guys, the guys that have done it,
you know, one way for a long time and just
had incredible success and all that saban, it's usually year
two where that culture that they established starts to find.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
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Speaker 2 (03:10):
Let's get to what the Fox says and now say
every day. This time that gottlip Show podcast we play
for your previous portion of Fox Sports Trader Fox Sports One.
This is LeVar Errington and Brady Quinn talking about the
continued skepticism surrounding Sam Darnald.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
They're going to continue to until it just continues happening.
That's just how skeptics work. Like Sam Darnald isn't going
to outperform the skeptical feelings of what could possibly be,
so he's just got to keep winning.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I mean, that's just what is he trying to not
be burdened by what has been is what it is.
I hope he's not being burt.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I hope he's just playing because at the end of
the day, like like you know, it's been said, has
been stated. He is now for the first time, arguably
in a great, great situation, in a great position to
win and have success. He hasn't always had that, so
I wouldn't be burdened with that. If I'm him, I'm
(04:11):
looking at it like I'm gonna just keep dealing. We
keep dealing because at the end of the day, this
is my opportunity. I've moved around. People can think what
they want to think, they can feel how they want
to feel. But I got a team. We played defense,
great great strategist on the defensive side of the ball,
and I got a plethora of weing weapons on this
(04:35):
offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
And this is just that it looks sustainable.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think it looked sustainable. I mean, I thought he
played really well yesterday. He didn't see a blitz get
hit the back on the blind side. He wasn't perfect,
but there were some throws that were outstanding. He's good
on the move. He doesn't cost you a ton. I
don't know, I you know, and I understand. I mean,
maybe JJ McCarthy's really really, really good good, But I
(05:01):
don't think you have to make a decision on any
of that until the season's over. You know, let him cook,
support him, treat him like as your starter, and then
at the end of the year you can kind of
go back and figure out, all, right, where do we
where do we go with this? I don't And I
also I'm not gonna outside of Janie Daniels, right, the
other rookie quarterbacks aren't playing well, But that doesn't mean
(05:22):
that JJ McCarthy wouldn't have played well. I just you know,
I did have questions about him being drafted that high
in the draft, but I don't know. Like Sam Darnold,
this has happened before. We've seen it with Raindo Cunningham.
We've seen him with Kurt Warner, right, Kurt Warner and
his you know, people forget he went to the Giants
and he had the hand injury and he could you know,
(05:42):
he got They end up drafting Eli Manning and then
he went to Arizona and that was for They drafted
Matt Lioner, but eventually beat out Liner. So I don't
know how where we end up, but I do know
that he's playing very well. They're winning football games, and
they weren't. You know, there's no cutting him or trading
him before the season's up anyway, So see how the
season goes, and then you can make a determination. Then
(06:04):
this is Dan Patrick talking about the Jets.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
If you've listened to the show, you know that I
don't think Robert sala is a head coach. You know,
he's a defensive coordinator. But I watch and there's so
many things that go into being a head coach. If
you're just a defensive coordinator, you worry about being a
defensive coordinator. He's got to worry about a lot of things.
He's got to worry about leaks in the building, to
the media, going to a press conference, trying to explain
(06:30):
why he keep somebody or got rid of somebody. Oh
my god, it's just jetsy and football. They have the talent,
they have weapons, defense is good. This is coaching. It
just is it's coaching. And you know, we may look
(06:52):
back on this loss and say, oh that Jets didn't
make the playoffs, didn't make the wild card. Look at
the division right now. Buffalo just got roughed up. The
Dolphins don't have Tua, Patriots don't know who they are.
You have a great, great opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Uh yeah, they do. But I'm listening a lot of
times on this segment we disagree with the host, whoever
gets the opinion. I completely agree with Dan Patrick on
this one.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I just do.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The defense has always been brash and really good, but
they also they take a lot of chances and there's
a lot of penalties, and then offensively, you know, obviously
that just thing hasn't worked, and they just don't look
like a good, well coached team. It's really the only
way that they have some good pieces, they don't look
like a well coached team. And I don't know how
(07:50):
you can defend it when Robert Sala has been there
for long enough and had his own GM, and they
do have an opportunity, right The Bills are good, but
they're not they you know, they got exposed little bit
last night. Patrits are not good and the Dolphins have talent,
but no quarterback right now, and you know, who knows
when Tua is going to come back? If he's going
to come back. This is a great opportunity for the Jets,
(08:11):
but I just don't think they have the weaponry at
coach to do.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
So.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Here's Colin Coward talk about Lamar.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
People love athletic quarterbacks except Lamar Jackson, and he's the
best at it. I mean, Johnny Manzel comes out. I
was assured I didn't buy it, but he'd be great.
And I have defended Kyler Murray but he's tiny and
regressing and hard to coach. And then I was told
Justin Fields and Anthony Richardson, and it's like, I know
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what it looks like when it's great, and what it
looks like when it's great's Lamar Jackson, who, because of
his work, ethic and his passion, has become the soul
of the city, the soul of the franchise. Lamar Jackson's unbelievable.
He's the greatest all time running talent, and now Baltimore
finally got him a star back who's healthy, really nice receivers,
(09:01):
Mark Andrews Titan, And this is what it looks like.
Think about Buffalo. A week ago, we thought Buffalo was
the best team in the world. They gave up last
night they quit. They just they had they couldn't stop
him nine yards of play in the first half. This
is a guy that is twenty one and one against
the NFC, and Chris collins Worth pointed this out, there's
no way to prepare for Lamar Jackson. Your best bet
(09:24):
is to be Cleveland, Cincinnati or the Steelers. You see
him a couple times a year, and you kind of
understand the game speed and his ability. Those teams have
a much better shot.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah. I mean, like, let's just let's not forget that
they were zero and two and could have easily been
oh to three when they played the Cowboys. So I
like Lamar and he's obviously evolved quite nicely into much
more of an NFL quarterback than he was when he
came out. But there's also times in which he's just
(10:00):
erratic and throwing you know, intermediate underneath stuff, stuff that
you got to be accurate. There was a nice deep ball.
We don't all like we like athletic quarterbacks. I think
everybody likes Lamar. I actually think his athleticism and his
personality has given him a pass sum for the fact
that he has been less than less than what's desired.
(10:22):
Especially outside the numbers, outside the numbers, you know, twenty
yards down the field. Like he's just not crazy accurate,
and that's that's always been his limiting factor. But I
don't think anybody dislikes lamar, I don't. I don't know
where that one might come from. That's what the Fox
said say.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
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Speaker 2 (10:51):
Let's find out who what's annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And now it's your annoying?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Hey, Doug.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
I figured we could either go like kind of light
and fun coming off the NFL weekend, or we could
just hit the heavy issues and don't shy away from
it and be unabashed with our opinions about heavy issues.
You repurposed this story over the weekend, so I'm guessing
(11:25):
you also find it annoying. Christine Brennan. For our careers,
you and I go back a long time in this business.
Christine Brennan has been a massive voice for women's sports.
I think she's done a column for USA Today for
I don't know how long. I think she was originally
(11:45):
a beat reporter, you know, just a journalist, journalist that
has always advocated for women's sports, and a lot of
times she goes way too far left for my sensibility,
but that's fine. Whatever. So this past weekend, the WMBA
(12:07):
has pushed to revoke her credentials for the postseason, and
they put out a statement basically saying that so called
an interview that you did with Dja Carrington last week
was a blatant attempt to bait a professional athlete into
participating into a narrative that is false and designed to
fuel racism, homophobia, and misogynistic vitriol and social media. Do
(12:32):
not hide behind your tenure or your credentials like just
a scathing rebuke. And in case listeners aren't familiar, djn
A Carrington, who is the girlfriend of Kitlin Clark's teammate,
got Caitlin Clark in the eye. I think what it
(12:52):
wasn't a postseason game, or maybe it was, maybe it
was the first postseason game. It looked accidental. But Christine Brennan,
I guess, had heard a lot online about it not
maybe not being accidental, and she had this exchange with
Djene Carrington last week when you.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
Went and kind of swatted at Caitlin, did you intend
to hit her in the eye? And if so, could
you just earthen out?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Either way?
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Could you talk about what happened on that play.
Speaker 10 (13:18):
I just I don't even know why I would intend
to hit anybody in the eye. That doesn't even make
sense to me. But no, I didn't. I didn't know
I hit her. Actually, I was trying to make a
play on the ball, and I guess I followed through
and I hit her. So obviously it's never intentional. That's
not even like the type of player that I am.
Speaker 9 (13:35):
So yeah, did you and Marina kind of laugh about
it afterwards? It looked like you there was later on
the game they caught you guys laughing about it.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
No, I just told you I didn't even know I
hit her, So I can't laugh about something I didn't
know happened.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I think you can argue. I think it can be
argued that maybe the one of questioning was out of
left field or something. But Journalists Ask Questions USA Today
took up for Christine Brennan. Journalists ask questions and seek truth.
We reject the notion that the interview perpetuated any narrative.
(14:10):
Christine Brennan is well regarded as an advocate for women
and athletes, but first and foremost, she's a journalist many layers.
This is annoying, Doug, but I just think that the WNBA,
this is so on brand. They're trying to, I guess,
rid any negativity from coming into their sport. They're going
to try to be the gatekeepers of negativity.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Good luck with U.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, the first thing is, if we're honest, that's about
as bad a Q and A as you're ever going
to find. Okay, So what I'm gonna do? These two
things can both be true. I don't think Christine Brennan's
especially good at her job.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But the other part to it, which you said, you
can be not great at your job and still not
be the level to which I don't. I mean the
comments from the w is that the w NBA PA
correct is just comical and laughable, right, Like, here's what happens.
(15:14):
And we've talked about this sum on this podcast especially,
is like we our default is to racism, sexism, always
something negative, instead of like, hey, maybe she's just not
that good at her job, which I think is the
case here, because if you are going to lash out
at one of your biggest advocates and supporters, then how
(15:35):
does everybody else in the media world look at it?
They just do And plus not a lot of people
spend time pay attention at all to an interview or
listen to that sound. They just simply say, like, Christine
ran like and she kind of a feminist and they're
attacking her. If you listen to the interview, it's it's
honestly awful because she does she does the three things
(15:57):
that you should never do. The first two. It happens,
but she should be better at it than she is.
It's just who what when?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Why?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
How?
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Who?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What?
Speaker 9 (16:07):
When?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Why? How? What happened between you and Caitlin Clark when
she got poked in the eye? Right, that's the question.
And then she says talk about which is not a
question in dan listen to that. Can we play that
first question one more time? I mean, this is it's
awful interviewing stuff for somebody as experienced as Christine is.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
When you went and kind of swatted at Caitlin, did
you intend to hit her in the eye? And if so,
could you just ear if not either way. Could you
talk about what happened on it?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Could you talk about it? Why does she?
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Like?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What? In what world is that a good question? It's
so bad when you swatted at her, did you intend? No,
you don't have to ask for that. What happened? Why
did it look like? Why would why could or how
(17:04):
would anybody believe that could be intentional or whatever? Just
let her talk, ask her a question and then talk
about is. I mean, that's like basic stuff. So yeah,
I mean, I just I'm at it like two different parts.
One is Christine Brennan's always kind of been just okay,
(17:27):
And the other part to it is this it's just
a joke. What the WNBA PA is trying to do it?
You know, I don't even know what was the claims
of racism from Fever fans when somebody put Taylor Clark's
face on some other body like in a meme. Like,
I don't even know what the hell they're talking about,
(17:49):
just the idea that people come to a WNBA game
are racist when they cheer against you. I mean, the
Fever have like two white players maybe three that play
like so they don't like their own team. I don't
really understand it's stet league has always been so incredibly,
so incredibly toxic in their pushback of any sort of coverage.
(18:14):
They're that like the college fan that if you don't
know everything about everybody in our roster, then fuck you.
If you don't kiss our ass and tell us how
great our school is, then fuck you. And then of
course the second that their school loses a game, they
say the same things about their own coaches. You're not
allowed to say that for as an outsider, that on
steroids is what the WNBA is.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You're right, exactly right.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
So I want to make a commentary on the degree
of brutality and violence in recent fights at stadiums. I
don't know if you saw it, but the one that
went viral yesterday was I think during the Falcons and
Saints game, where you had a gentleman getting his head
(18:57):
pounded into the concrete by someone else's foot. The recaps
of this fight was that the man that was getting
his head pounded almost lost his life. I think that
it's disturbing, and you know, on many levels, but I
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saw at least six or seven angles of this fight.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
This was the most.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Well covered fan fight by smartphones and the history of
fan fights, and you just start to think to yourself,
it's a matter of when, not if, that one of
these fans gets killed. And I hope that each of
those people that were holding the smartphone, instead of doing
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something or getting involved or trying to slow down the
situation or de escalate, I hope they lose sleep for life,
because catching something so that you could put it on
the internet later is the priority, and preventing a guy
from getting a stomped to death was not a priority.
(20:03):
I don't know what this says about our civilization. I
thought civilizations were supposed to evolve, But what we've seen
over the last four or five years in society, I
have a I'm skeptical that we're evolving. It seems like
we're going backwards. You could say that there've always been
fights at stadiums, and it's just smartphones are catching more
(20:23):
of them. Okay, but the degree of brutality. You and
I spoke a couple of weeks ago. You're like, did
you see the fights at the Raiders and Chargers game.
There was like ten of them. Yeah, I did, and
I had to look away in most of them. They're
not they're they're they're disgusting. They're sick to They make
me sick to my stomach. So the degree of brutality
I think is getting worse just the eye test. Civilizations
(20:46):
are supposed to evolve. I don't know where we got
to this place where we started to go backwards. But
it's not Uh, it's not cool. And I think this too.
Soccer hooligans for decades have been maiming and killing the
opposing fans. Okay, I will say the soccer hooligans for
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the most part are from less civilized countries, like they're
just their citizenry is not what would you say, up
to the standards of what the United States claims to be,
Are we going to become just another country of soccer
hooligans that kills fans at sporting events.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
There was a lot to unpacked there, but I agree
with you, like we have gotten it went from videos
of fights that you feel like has already happened to well,
these are way worse and this is gross and everybody
in them you just like just watching somebody rail on
the dude, especially guys fall down. They're punching them and
(21:52):
kicking them in the head. Like you do realize you
can do brain damage, and what was the guy that
the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Fan Brian Stipe. I want to say Brian's.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean that poor guy, you know, he had
brain damage is never the same as a human being.
So I don't know what our role is other than
not retweeting it. And I've I've retweeted it and felt
super guilty afterwards. So I've stopped retweeting it. But I
don't know if that actually does does anybody any good?
Speaker 8 (22:23):
So fight fan fights Christine, the Christine Brennan ordeal and
oh I didn't even get to my third Oh man,
this is good. Bear with me here on this one.
So did you see the Jets game yesterday? They lost
to the Broncos. Right, and the Jets offensive line I
(22:43):
think fall started like four or five times. And you know,
because Aaron Rodgers has always had this amazing cadence where
he gets the other.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Team to jump off side.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I saw this too, Yeah, like he weed's the world.
And I think I think they had I think they
had five false starts.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
So so afterwards, Robert Sola was asked about the cadence
and he said, this last.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Year, I think you guys were one or two in
the NFL. Tell he's now this year, I think you're four.
Speaker 11 (23:10):
What needs to change to clean it up? Oh, we've
got to figure it out whether or not we're good
enough to handle all the We're ready to handle all
the kidens. Cadence had not been an issue all camp
felt like our operation had been operating pretty good. Obviously,
today it took a major step back.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
So then Aaron Rodgers was asked about his head coach, saying,
maybe we need to take a look at the cadence, the.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
Cadence specifically, Robert said, there might be something you guys
have to dial back a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Is that something you think could potentially help the situation.
Speaker 12 (23:46):
It's a fun way to do it. The other ways
hold them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue.
We've had one false start. Morgan had one false start,
I believe until this so it's been a weapon. We
use it every day in practice. You know, we rarely
have a false start, and to have I don't know
five today it seemed like four or five. Yeah, it
seems like an outlier. I don't know if we need
to make mass changes based on you know, kind of
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an outlier game.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Classic Aaron Rodgers. Right, That's called the opposite of being
lockstep with your coach.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And that's my point.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
The New York media gets, I guess, gets credited for
being hard on their teams. But the New York media
I thought, has come up short in this regard. A
couple weeks back when they had that hug thing, that
hug exchange and then Aaron Rodgers gave him a death stare,
I thought the New York media was kind of lazy afterwards,
(24:39):
and following up on that, they allowed both of the
parties to give answers like, hey, I'm not much of
a hugger and there's something about two score. You know,
they never really gave any reason for why there was
this death stare by Aaron Rodgers. So you fast forward
to today and Boomer Siasin goes on New York Radio
(25:00):
and says what the New York media has been reluctant
to even follow up on. I try to watch to.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
See if I see any interactions on the sideline or anything. Nothing. Nothing.
I see a guy walking right past the other guy.
I can't imagine that. And when I see Aaron Rodgers
on the sideline and I see him after the game
in the postgame press conference. You know, and again I'm
speculating here, but yesterday's day postgame press conference, there is
a major issue there, and they bult will deny it,
(25:29):
I guarantee it, but there is an issue there, and
it's because you have this forty year old Hall of
Fame quarterback to be dealing with a coach that I
think he doesn't respect.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I get this feeling a lot when I do when
I watch politics and politicians getting interviewed, I get so
frustrated at the lack of follow up with the reporting.
They just allow people to lie and then they don't
hold him accountable. It's like that whole thing with the
exchange at you know, in the middle of the field
room in the season. I just didn't feel like there
was enough follow up. And I think Boom are sitting
(26:01):
on something. Do you do you agree?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't think there's any question he said on something
that there's absolutely positively something going on there where they
I don't know if they don't like each other or
I just think it's I don't think he regards him
as a very good coach. I think that's really kind
of simply what it is. I wish I could say
it was something more like a bigger deal than that,
(26:24):
but I agree. I don't know if it's it doesn't
respect him or what, but I definitely don't think he
thinks he's a very good coach.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
So that situation to me, the kind of lack of
journalism and the New York media and the Christine Brennan
story and the fan fights.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh, I don't think there's anything close to the how
annoying the WNBA is, right, I just don't get me wrong.
Like there's a lot of stuff that's annoying. And then
the lack of follow up by the New York media
also is annoying, although in this case they let Aaron
Rodgers kind of I don't even want to say himself
or he allowed you know, I mean, nobody was searching
(27:04):
for this story that he just kind of brought to us.
But nonetheless there was a lack of like follow up
to exactly what those comments meant. But I you know,
the w NBA attacking Christine Rennet, who's been like your
only champion in national print media, I yeah, they're not.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Lamar Jackson had a big night last night and then
he did the postgame interview on Live TV.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
You told us that people underestimate Derek Henry speed, that
you even underestimated it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
How fast is he?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Curse? Oh no, man, he different. You've seen him. He
started putting away from gods. He just man, that's the
key hearing man, can't hear it?
Speaker 8 (28:00):
I almost cursed.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's so good, so good? Uh? He is he is
so big that he's Is he bigger than Christian Nakoye.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Size wise?
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah, I don't know if he's as bulky, but I'm
guessing same same around the same category.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Man. I mean, he's just an absolute man among boys. Man, boys,
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