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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Not a lot going on, right or maybe there is,
you know, like the Tennessee Titans get their first win
of the year. Mason Rudolph, who came in and saved
the day for the Titans, will join us in the show.
By the way, I have a question for you, Dan,
you and Jay Stu. You guys are both very active
on social media. I was Sam as well, right, Like,
that's that's fair, that's not everybody good with that? Okay?
(01:09):
Did you see the post of a young woman and
her guy and they're at the Dolphins game and she
shows him that that Mason Rudolph slid into her DMS. Yes,
and he's and the guy is like, guys, like, Mason
Rudolph slides into my girls DMS. Now he's on the
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field and he's beating the Dolphins. But like, I can't.
This is the worst ever. I want to go home
right now. It's it, right, Okay? Should I ask Mason
about it?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think you have to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, I mean it's off the field. It doesn't have
to do totally. I mean I'd like to, and we
are friends, but like, is this gonna kill our friendship?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
If I asked, well, I wouldn't worry about the friendship.
I'd worried about the listener and what the listener wants
to to know, and I'd want to know that information.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, jay Stu, are you okay with that? I mean,
I'll go with it, but I just want to make
sure that we're all on board for the possibility of it.
I mean Jayce dou of course, used to be with
with with Rome's posse, and right Rome made a name
for himself by calling Jim Everett Chris Everett several times
and then getting the desk turned over on him. I
don't think Mason would have that kind of native energy.
And I got to find like a nice neutral way
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of asking him, But I got to ask him about it, right,
Jace du Can, I I can't give him a pack.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I think we got to and could you guys clarify
something for me, because I saw the tweet many times.
I just didn't I didn't actually spend any time looking
at it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Did it?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Did she divulge what he wrote to her?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No? Oh no, no, there was no there was nothing there.
It looked like it was unopened by the way. There was.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
There was some there was some drama on whether it
was a screenshot, whether it was an actual the actual
app being shown. The question or the message was are
you still in Miami? That's what was allegedly sent to
the message, Whether it's real or not.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You're still in Miami? All right, We'll we'll find out,
We'll ask. I will ask Mason Rudolph, he'll join us,
he'll join us upcoming, man. I mean, she blew up
his spot on Twitter when he's playing in the game.
That's called blowing up your spot. By the way, I
don't know if you guys are familiar with that. Mason's
joining us in twenty five minutes. It is the Doug
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appreciate you. We appreciate you. Can I get to the
(03:48):
Pete Rose thing. So Pete Rose passed away last night,
and again I haven't polled my staff. I haven't asked
j Steube, although I fall him on social media, so
I do know. I did see Dan tweet about it.
So again, Dan, if this goes counter to your opinion,
we can we can talk about it. But what actually
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has changed between yesterday and today?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I mean, p Rose isn't of this earth anymore? But
had any of you who spent any time thinking about
Pete Rose before now?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like? No?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So this newfound push and this always happens, right and
frankly like this is there's I don't think Reggie Bush's
is to this point. But like Reggie Bush was taking money,
got caught taking money, and now because you can take money,
they gave him back his Heisman trophy and we acted
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like none of it ever happened. And Reggie Bush acts
like he's a victim when he's he's not right. The
one thing is, yes, did it steer players or keep
players at schools because you paid them? Sure, But the
actual game itself there wasn't the same. It didn't strike
you the core of what the game with the sports
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is about. And suddenly now Pete Rose becomes some sort
of sympathetic figure because he passes away, and like, oh,
how could the whole time hit king, the all time
game player king, How could Peter Rose, seventeen time All Star?
How could he not be and recognized in the Hall
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of Fame. Well, first thing is he actually is recognized.
His accomplishments are recognized in the Hall of Fame. His
bats there, gloves, their shoes there. Okay, And I'm not
even factoring in some of the creepy off the field
stuff like don't care. I'm not using that to talk
about whether or not Pete Rose should be in or
shouldn't be in. But I started in this national sports
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radio game with a man named Chuck Wilson. Chuck normally
would join us. We get him for an hour, and
he is a Pete Rose fan who is the foremost
authority on the Doubt report and on all Pete Rose did.
He can join us because his father in law is very,
very sick and he's holding his wife's hand and he
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was It's just that's it's not something he wants to
disrupt in terms of his family. But what I did
learn from him, going back again, I've been doing this
for twenty two years. Of the twenty two years, nationally,
anytime Pete Rose comes up, there'll be something to go. Well,
they just put him in. What's the point of having punishments?
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What's the one time punishments? And oh yeah, by the way,
the way in which you get a punishment lessoned in
the court of law is what admit fault, admit guilt.
He just admitted and will cut it down. And you know,
Pete Rose never did. He never admitted it. Not only
he never admitted, but he wouldn't even admit to when
he began betting on baseball Hipete's thing was like, I
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only bet on games we're going to for us to win. Okay, Pete,
you do understand that if you call a bookie twice
a week and say and bet on your team to win,
and then you don't call your bookie, doesn't that mean
you think you're gonna lose? Right? And oh yeah, by
the way, he started betting on baseball, not just as
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a manager, a player manager, so he could directly affect
all of those games, and even the ones he didn't
bet on, he could directly affect the other part too.
It is you can load up your quality pitchers for
those games that you bet on and essentially throw the
other ones without throwing them. Piro is a great player,
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all time great and the way in which he played
the sport is the way in which you want anybody
to play the sport. But when you violate the core
tenants of what sports is about, specifically baseball, where a
rule that was posted on every clubhouse wall, and then
you deny, deny, deny, may make yourself out to be
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the victim. Okay, then you do all kinds of things
like I'm gonna sell autographs right across the street. Hall
of fame like Pete. He's not a great dude. He
just wasn't. Let's not make him into some sympathetic figure.
He was a great ballplayer that committed a crime against
the sport of baseball. The punishment that they chose that
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everybody agreed with, was a lifetime ban. That band could
have been lifted several times over had he at any
at any point, at any point acknowledged what he had done,
admitted it, talked about it, and tried to tell others
not to fall into the trappings of betting on professional sports,
especially the one in which you play. He chose not
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to do so. So the payment is just like when
you're like, hey, I'm going to fight this ticket. If
you fight that ticket, have you ever been in a
traffic court but you go in and they call your
name and like hey, look a hundred bucks. It goes
away like, well, you fight the ticket, and what happens.
I don't know if anybody had been in a traffic
court recently.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I have.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
There's cameras everywhere. He did not run that red light,
and like, mister gotlieb, this is your car, you ran
the red light. Any what happens because of their time
because of what they had to do. They're going to
punish you to the complete extent of the law. Like okay,
now it's a three hundred and fifty dollars ticket like that.
You know you could have go you could have walked
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away with a hundred, but you chose not to do.
So let's not make that Pete out to be anything
more than an incredible player who played for a long time,
who played baseball the right way, except for the one
thing he gambled on baseball, and then he lied about it.
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He claimed to never know when his first bet was
because if he did, he would say, which is in
the doubt report, that he started betting on baseball when
he was a player manager. In other words, he was
still playing. So let's not act like he didn't have
his hands on a baseball to make a play that
could help or hurt his team. Just not that way.
I feel zero sympathy for him individually personally being recognized
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in the in the Baseball Hall of Fame. None, and
you shouldn't either. And don't believe these people that haven't
done their homework. That's simply all they want to do
is grandstand and get people on social media or media
to act like there's some hero championing the week. That's
not who Pete Rose was. Per Ros did come from
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nothing and built him built himself into an absolute legendary
baseball player. But he's kind of a slam ball. Let's
just be totally candidate, honest, and if that, if that
bothers you, fine, go and just track his history all
the things he's done, and you're like, yeah, maybe not
the best guy they want.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Again, that doesn't keep you out of the Pro Baseball
Hall of Fame. There's plenty of Hall of famers that
aren't good dudes. But he bet on baseball repeatedly as
the player manager, What do you want to do with that?
And then never came clean, never admitted to when he
did it. You know, has had opportunity after opportunity after
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opportunity to acquiesce to what baseball has asked him to
do in order to in order to get reinstated. He
made the calculated guess, hey, that public pressure would be
on his side, and it probably was, but also that
he would be more popular, probably make more money as
the anti Hall of Fame Hall of Famer than he
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would by saying I admitted I did it.
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Let's start with the Detroit Lions, who now three and
one on the year. Lone loss was at home to
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They weren't perfect last night. Well,
(13:32):
one guy was perfect last night was Jared Goff. I
guess the only thing he did wrong was they're up
what fourteen late and on third and one when they're
just they were going to get a two minute warning
and they're trying to run out the clock. He drops
back the past, the pack of the pocket collapses. He
tries to scramble and gets tackled right at about the
(13:54):
gold line. Tries to stretch the ball out, but they
kind of explained why you don't get forward progress there.
It was a safety outside of that, eighteen for eighteen
throwing the football. Here's Jared Goff after the game.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Never Never, I don't think it's I've ever done it.
I knew I did in the first half last week,
so I was aware of it then and I was
kind of aware of it today. About the middle of
the third quarter, I was like, I couldn't think of one,
but then I threw the one out of bounds. I
ended up being offensive pass interference and I was like,
does that count?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I couldn't. I didn't know if that. I didn't know
if that counted or not.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
But yeah, it's a good day.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
It was.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It was a pretty good day. Here's Dan Campbell, his
head coach, on Jared Golf.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I just gave the game ball to somebody else, So
I feel awful.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
To see.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
No, well, I knew he played a heck of a game.
I did not realize he was perfect. I did not
know he was literally eighteen for eighteen I mean that,
But I knew he played really well. You could feel it,
and he really found his rhythm early and I thought
he was seeing the field played with rhythm. He had
to move a little bit in the pocket. I thought
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what really kickstarted him is the you know, he had
to kind of move in the pod and got spun
around and hung with Jamo and hit him on the
hook for the first down. Was big man because he
was rolling.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
After that, he was the offense is great for a while.
Now he did get stagnant in the second half, and
it was a pretty competitive game. I thought Seattle played
after you know, the first two and a half quarters,
Dan where like they had some breakdowns and coverage that
were just bizarre that James, Now, James Williams obviously is
(15:31):
incredibly fast, but they just had some breakdowns. You're like, wow,
he's not only wide open, no one's going to tackle him.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, well, it's tough when he's got a head start
and guys, I mean, he's so fast. But you're right
when he caught the football, there wasn't anybody that was
really in clear view. But again, and I've said this
with the with the Legion of Boom of their success
was really dependent on if the defensive line could get
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something on the quarterback, get pressure hand in their face.
So the Michael Bennetts of the world, the Clefavrels, even
the Chris Clemens when they were first starting. If you
could get after the quarterback, it made Richard Sherman's job
a lot easier. To take nothing away from those guys,
but you have to have pressure on the quarterback. And
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they did sack Jared Golf three times last night. But
when you're eighteen of eighteen, it tells me that your
defensive line didn't do their job no matter how many
guys are out. I mean they had Leonard Williams didn't play,
first round pick Byram Murphy didn't play, Boy and Mafe
didn't play. They still don't have a Chenna Nuosu. So
they were severely shorthanded on defense last night, and it
hurts the back end when you don't get that pressure
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on the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
This is very true. It is a Doug Gottlieb show
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I'm undefeated in my fans. All right, good work, there
(17:08):
you go.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You know, it is interesting last night because we talked
about this on the pod that is available wherever you
get your podcasts. Mike Carmen and myself do it right
after the Monday night games. Ian Roddy's our executive producer,
and Ian chimes in as well. But the conversation, the
point that I brought up of Gino Smith now is
the Seahawks quarterback and seeing what bo Nix is doing
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with the Broncos, which isn't much, and seeing what is
happening with Caleb Williams in Chicago in trying to get
those rookie quarterbacks ready for play. You're going through growin pains,
and to watch Geno Smith. I'm now found with the
Seahawks having Geno Smith as their quarterback for the next
five years. He was great last night. He gets the
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ball to the guys who need to get the football.
When you look at their offense and you take away
the Gino Smith that you think that he is and
you actually watch him, he is more than sufficient for
what they need to do, so offensively they are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
He's athletic enough to get away from trouble and ocasionally
run for a first down. He's got a good enough arm.
He delivers the ball, yeah, relatively quickly, like you know, again,
as long as you keep it, you know, like cost wise,
Like that's the kind of guy. And I just it's honestly,
Dan that you bring up a great point. And I
don't know if this is what you meant to bring up,
but I appreciate you for doing it. It's hey, what
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if you just had a good quarterback that we all
know is not great, but you also didn't pay him
sixty million dollars? You paid him like, no, fifteen twenty
million dollars. And he said, what if we have a
guy who's just good, steady, solid, fine, okay, and then
we put a really good team around him, And it's
like the brock Purty thing, only instead of having a
young quarterback who doesn't make anything then eventually is gonna
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make a bunch, you have a guy who's been doing
a long time. You slightly overpay him, but you don't
massively be over pahm. Is that about right?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah? Yeah, I think I think he's really good, Like
I don't want to say that he's great. But I
think even good is almost a bit of an under
selling for what we've seen in the quarterback play around
the NFL. And it's tough to go up against the
guy who goes eighteen of eighteen last night, but the
Seahwks had to throw the ball fifty six times. Gino
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is fully capable of doing that, even with an offensive
line that played good last night. I actually played really
well in past sitting situations, which were a lot because
they trailed early. But yeah, look around the National Football
League and you look at some of the struggles that
those teams have. And I bring up bon Nicks only
for the reason Douglas. If the Seahawks were to draft
a quarterback in the next draft, it would probably be
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around in the area where Bonnicks was drafted, or even
later and maybe in an area where Kenny Pickett was drafted.
And are you really getting the value of pick at
that point when you're drafting in the mid to late
first rounds. I don't think that you are. Jordan Love
is starting to become one of the exceptions to the rule,
but I'd rather just keep what you have with Gino Smith.
(20:03):
So the talk of the Seahawks looking for a quarterback.
I just I think right now has gone out the
window for oh.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think what you do is And here's one like,
could Darnold be the next GENO? Right is? That is
this kind of a new sort of role we're finding
with some of these guys Baker Mayfield. Now, Baker makes
a lot of money and he probably overpaid. But it's
guys that have had a shot in the past and
(20:33):
have whatever level, failed, but they still have accumulated all
that knowledge and they haven't lost their confidence and their competent.
They're not great, but they're good, and it's like it's
like the reappearance of a middle class in a system
that has had no middle class for the last ten
to fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, good point.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
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Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah yeah, Jay, you guys are talking about quarterbacks here,
and you know you played sound of Dan Campbell talking
about Jared Gobbs eighteen for eighteen. That's another It's just
the most recent example of a room full of sycophantish
writers over exaggerating their laughter at a pretty you know,
(21:16):
this joke is actually for jock and meathead standards. It's
actually a pretty fun joke. But I want to compare
the reaction in the room last night after Dan Campbell
drops this joke to the famous one where Tom Brady
told his joke. So here's the Dan Campbell one.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
I just gave the game ball to somebody else, so
I feel awful right now.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
So then remember, can I can I quick interject something
with that? Because I do want to. I want to
hear it again. Yeah, there's all. There's also the reporter
who has to then be in on the laughter quick anywhere.
He follows up like he's got to have something to
say because he needs to be a part of the
joke as well, because he needs to be thought of
as witty and funny. So if you listen to that
replay that.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
There's also there's also one of those, which is the
ultimate fake laugh. Nobody laughs like that.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
They just gave the game ball to somebody else, So
I feel awful right now.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So then it sounds like a motorcycle trying to fire
up right, So chance that guy ever like that's that's
the kind of laugh that keeps you from marrying a check.
She like, I was gonna marr him, But what happened.
It was an annoying laugh.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And I agree with Jason. I actually do think it
was funny like it was. It was a funny delivery. Yeah,
I did chuckle with it.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
For me to have the standards, it was just because
it was just kind of matter of fact, you know,
matter of fact.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
But remember Tom Brady's final season. Yes, they had some
wacky play to end a game and they won, and
he went.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
To the.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Now tired cliche that's how we drew it up. And
he he may as well have been Chris Rock meets
Kevin Hart dropping this line.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Just like we drew it up, like we drew it up.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
That was Sam And the last part right that was
Yeah in the background, he actually wasn't he He did
throw an incompletion if you guys noticed it or not,
and they addressed it in the post game. But he
threw it in completion. But the Lions were called for
a penalty pass interference and it was it was a
(23:41):
golden gold situation, so it was first in goal to ten,
So the Seahawks took the penalty and backed them up.
If they declined the penalty and have a second and
goal from the ten, then golf is not perfect last night,
so a line's penalty actually saved them because it was
a bad throw and it was, but it was an
offensive pass interference. You would have been you would have
been teen of nineteen. Instead, we wouldn't have gotten Dan
(24:02):
Campbell and that joke.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh, just like we drew it up, like we drew
it up. We drew it up, just like we drew
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(24:25):
Cowherd said you can't trust Detroit because why were they
throwing the football when they're up to touchdowns? And they
had kind of a free play and he got that
safety in it. You know, it made it at least
interesting last two minutes of the game. And I pointed
out last year when they lost to San Francisco that
the decision making from Dan Campbell and whoever decided when
to go, when not to go, when to go for two,
(24:46):
when to kick a field goal all that day, all
that stuff, it was contradictory to one common sense. And
then there were times in which they decided to not
go four times in which they went for it. And
when they go for it and don't get it, they're like, well,
that's what we do, but they'll always do it, So
which are you? But my my thing is a couple
of things. When I saw it, I did one sideline
(25:07):
game for the NFL for Fox NFL Fox, and I
was in Miami and Adam Gase was the coach, and
everyone we met with from the organization was like, do
you know who the one guy we've had, because they've
had just a turnstyle of coaches and they're like, the
one guy that everybody loved was Dan Campbell. And so
when he got the job, I was I was a
(25:28):
defender of the of the press conference because you know
so much of it. When you're an NFL coaches, you
gotta have the respect to the locker room he does as
a former player, Okay, and he's a hard worker and
you just got him get him play hard, like hire
really good coaches to do the whole coaching stuff he
has with what he's done on the offensive side of
the ball. I he didn't call any plays and he's
(25:50):
a former tight endn't call plays. He's got the best
player call of the business. So I I liked it.
I didn't know it would be this good because I
never been a big Jared golf guy. But the other
part to it is kind of like Tampa. You draft
that high that long, eventually you're going to figure it out,
and they have. But my big takeaway is, hey, you
can win anywhere. We're like four or five years removed
(26:14):
from people going why is Detroit on Thanksgiving Day? Why
tell me? Why? Tell me why? To now it's like
Detroit's on all the time, non Monday night football, and
why would you watch the other game? They're a good watch,
They're a fun team, They're electric offensively. But again, just
(26:35):
snapshot in time, I would say there was a good
ten year conversation. And I know it through three different networks,
right I was at ESPN, at CBS, and Fox. At
each of the networks, at some point in time, somebody
brought up the why is Detroit always on Thanksgiving Day?
Like they stink? It's not fun? What are we doing?
Real quick? Dan Byer uniforms your thoughts it at all?
(27:03):
It's one of those things where you're known for one thing.
It'd be like I went to see Barry Manilow with
my mom. Imagine if he didn't play Mandy. Imagine if
he didn't play Mandy. You know, like I get you
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isn't it. You're a Honolulu Blue. I don't that one.
I'm with you on that one.
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Mason Ruff up coming
in my clock here five minutes, five minutes, amazing, Yeah, yeah,
five minutes, and we'll get the quarterback, maybe the starting
quarterback for the Titans, although last night's head coach came
out and said, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna stick as Is.
You know, they got the week off anyway, so we will.
(28:45):
Levis got hurt, hurt his shoulder ac joint. We don't
know how bad it is, uh, but Callahan said yes
last night after the game that if Will love Us
is healthy, he's still the starter. We'll see devob Day
Adams was on the k Adam Show, No Relation, and
he had this to say, but a lot of people
think you're you may never play another down as a raider.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
What would you say to that.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
All I can control is this this talk we're having
right here, and then after we're done with this, all
I can control is the next thing that I'm unsting.
So I'm gonna get up in a minute and nice
workout in and that's all I can control.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Look, they don't have the quarterback, they're not there yet,
they're not close to being there, and you're wasting DeVante amas.
You're paying him a ton of money. And even though
you wanted to be a raider, he wanted to be
a raider with Derek Carr. It was like a different
regime ago. It didn't work, and we move on. The
question becomes is he still the same DeVante he was
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in Green Bay? And the question and the answer is
probably maybe not. You know, you got two years removed.
Can the Chiefs get him? And if so, can Tom
to Let's go kind of hold them upside down. The
problem with the Chiefs is they're often undefeed to start,
so a first round pick is not really nearly as
valuable as bad teams first round picks. Is the available, Yeah,
(30:13):
what's the asking price? That part's going to be interesting,
really interesting, really interesting. It's Doug Gottliebshell. You're on Fox
Sports Radio, and uh, light work from a boy. Mason
Rudolph Right comes in off the bench, another dub, just
like last year with the Steelers, helping lead them to
the playoffs. He joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. Mason,
(30:35):
how are you.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Doing great, Doug? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm good, man, I'm good. What was that like last night?
Here you're on the sideline, you see will go down?
What is that like? As the backup quarterback a role
that you've you've played before obviously been the start, you've
been the backup. What's it like when you're one concern
for a guy that you share the quarterback room with,
but you also got to get ready to go.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, uh, it'll spike the adrenaline levels pretty quickly. I
uh yeah, obviously, like you said, uh, we'll tweak his
shoulder some sort of an ac uh irritation, and so
he's sort of moving around and you, you know, you
don't know if it's something he's gonna be able to
kind of play with or work for. Like you said,
(31:20):
you're going to get out there and play. So he
ended up not being able to go, and you kind
of getting that zone talk about you know, play play
options or the next of the following drive, the upcoming drive,
and uh, get you a couple of get you a
couple of throws to get warm and jump in there.
So that's kind of how it goes but.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
What what is what is that like? Right, it's your
first time wearing a different uniform in a real NFL game,
fresh off of playing and starting for the Steelers in
the playoffs, going to last year. What's that feeling like?
Trotting out, trotting out in the field for the first
time as the Titans quarterback during the regular season.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, it felt great. I mean I I felt prepared. Uh,
I felt like that's part of the best staff I've
been a part of as far as just you know, offensively,
just the offensive minded head coach, the attended of detailed
in the installation each week, the situational like we drill
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situations two minute and a half to win the game.
It's just like to death. And so felt prepared, even
though you know, you know, obviously not getting the reps
during the week, but I try to stay sharp, and
they were that call sheet, so sure, you know, mentally
up to speed.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
How do you not you know, the calls and the
the the verbiage you know, is obviously different. It's a
different football family. It's you know, Holtz wasn't he was
last year in Jacksonville and with the Raiders before, so
it's not like he was in Pittsburgh, so it reminds me.
It's got to remind me of I remember when I
was in Russia. I learned to speak Russian, but occasionally
(32:51):
I would be speaking Russian and a Spanish word would
pop in and like, no, no, it's not Spanish. It's right,
there are different languages. Do you catch yourself with the
verbiage chain kind of when you're calling, when you're audibilizing
or thinking, thinking of what what you're looking for?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yes, so actually Callahan, Brian Callahan, the head coach. He
calls the plays. Uh he even though coordinator Nicoles that
you references coordinator on paper. But so yeah, quite quite
a lot of you know, new verbiage, longer play calls.
You know that I was used to in pit, but uh,
(33:27):
you know I've had I've had training camp reps and
and preseason game reps, and so I felt pretty dar uncomfortable.
And but yeah, there's there are times where you know, uh,
you have sort of you know, uh moments where you're, hey,
this this is what we call this right, And he's
kind of getting in there and double checking, double checking things,
especially with the center that you know, I hadn't worked
(33:48):
with a whole lot through training camp, you know, under
center sort of chemistry and and and and verbal cadence
and so, but we figured that out pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What what is the kind of Callahan seeker? Right, because
obviously his dad's like I mean, he was head coach
of the Raiders who went to Super Bowl. But he's
an offensive line guru and savant and of course his
sons like Chip off the old Block. Like you mentioned
attention to detail, Like, what is it specifically that's allowed
that family to be so well respected on the offensive
side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, I think I think I was talking to you know.
His nickname is wild Bill Calhoun, you know, the senior
uh Bill, And and he is just I mean he's
sixty eight years old and he is as sharp as attack.
And when he when he when he installed the run
plan each week, it's uh, I mean, it's just it's
it's sort of a it's like a p's and L bit.
(34:40):
It's so it's enjoyable. He's he's he's humorous, he's sarcastic,
and the guys are locked in and listening to him.
And but we we had a heck of a lot
of personnel groups. I mean, it's it's it's a complex
plan a lot. You know, there's a lot of times
in the huddle what you're called, you know, one one
run play, can you know, you know, alert to a
other run play case, you know, basic on the look
(35:01):
we get. So he's detailed in there, and that's why
the study and during the week is so vital.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It's interesting though, right because like I'm sitting at home
and I'm like, you know, they're running power, you know,
like man let me of course, I'm like, let my
man throw the ball. But the second, the second part
is you're sitting there going like, okay, this to the
layman appears very very simple, just running the football, but
the reality is it's super super complex.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It is it is, And yeah, I knew that was
going to be the game sort of the game plan
going in, Like, you know, they got a quarterback who've
freaking been a part of their program for ten days,
so it's reasonable to expect. And you know, anyone, I
don't care if you're you know, I don't know, big
man into going there, you're not going to be as
effective as you're just so new. And so when we
(35:49):
got there, you know, the early lead we need to
control the ball, you know, run it, running it well.
Shot on the clock, it's going to be important. But
you're right, it's uh. I mean most of the time
you're breaking hot with two plays and you got emotion,
a shift and then another speed motion most likely, and
and there's just a lot of moving parts and they
(36:12):
average ran like said, wouldn't realize that.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Did you see what happened on social media with the
guy and his girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah? I did know. I did. I had that sent
to me a few times. That was plain No, this
was this was a I was responding actually to whoever
the girl was had sent a few messages my way.
I believe she was a Steelers fan, and so I
was responding back. But you know, water under the bridge,
(36:42):
it's it's all uh, it's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Come on, dude, it's hilarious, right, Like she's saying, like
he slid into my d MS, which is not an
accurate way, and he's like, and we're losing and we suck.
I just want to go home now, and you know,
and then of course, yeah, like to add insult to injury,
it was just that the Titans were beating his beloved Dolphins.
But that you checked in the game and then you're
responsible for beating the Dolphins like that was that was
(37:07):
a kind of amazing thing to sit here as a
bread and watch.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, no, but it was.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
It wasn't an unsolicited slide into her DMS. We want
to make sure that's clear.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Say it again.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It was not an unsolicited slide in her deal.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
It was it was a it was a it was
a response, and it was about eight months ago. It
was definitely not in between the second down going to
third down. Put a good frame job, a good frame
job for a little fifteen seconds of same. I guess
you know it's all that's what these kids are going for.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Okay, so you got the week off right and then
colts at home. What's your mentality in regards to Will
and whether or not you'll starter come off the bench?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, I uh Kellyan said last night that you know
Will bearing his shelfy that hell will be kind of
a slated in guy. So I'm going to continue to
prepare and you know, support him if that's if that's
the direction We're going to go and help them get
ready and trying to help the Titans win whatever way
(38:13):
I can. Got the buye week obviously, so you I'm
not going to speculate that I don't I don't fully know.
I think that's what he said last night. That's the
direction we're going to go and and but I'll be
ready as always, and you know, whether it's.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
What's what's this life? I mean, honestly, what's this life life?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
For you?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Mason, Mason Rudolf join us Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Trader.
You're a pride toal guy. Okay, you were the starter
in Pittsburgh. They brought another you know, they go and
draft another guy. Eventually you end up beating him out,
you go to the playoffs, and yet then they go
and bring in two new quarterbacks, obviously new offense. Now
you go here, you check in, you win the game.
Like so you're sitting there going like, I can win
football games this league. I did it last year. And
(38:56):
yet you know, even even last night, Callahan and obviously
Will's younger was have to by the team grain a
different regime. But what is that what is that existence
like of maintaining your level of self confidence while also
being willing to have other guys playing. You know, your
job as a backup is to get the other guy ready.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, it's definitely your your You're living in limbo quite
a bit and I've gotten used to it, but you
never totally get fully you know, you never want to
be complacent with being a backup. And I don't. I mean,
like you said, I felt dark and confident in the
way I played last year at the even the season
to get us in the playoffs and winning games and
(39:37):
playing good football. And last night, you know, I didn't
like the scoreboard up, but I felt felt good on
you know, not having much work with the first team offense.
So I think in the end, like it's it's just
a good it's a good lesson for life and like
you know, always staying ready, and I think it will
make me make me a better man and you know,
(40:00):
maybe a better father and a husband one day. Just
just just the old you know, the hardening that the
NFL has made me, you know, made molded me into
of it. It's just cutthroat and they're always trying to
replace you. And uh, you know, if you don't have
confidence in yourself, and you know, there's not a lot
(40:22):
of people will. I think I think I've had a
lot of confidence in myself the way I played and
my teammates had confidence in me and when I step
on the field, and that's all I try to worry about.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Last thing. I really appreciate your time, mate.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
You know one start you direct you Doug with you
know the new gig up there in Green Bay. We
you know, we talked the text a couple of times.
But that's awesome had before you.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, I really appreciate it. And I do expect you
to be in attendance at at one of the games
at some point in time. Those are my there's my expectations.
We play we play oh State the day after you
play the Patriots. Just so you know, Like Casey want
to case you want to fly in from nash Vegas.
You know you can. You can sit on my bench.
You can sit on my bench if you want. Grab
(41:08):
Tree can be my my, my my bodyguard, and you
can you can you can call a couple. You can
call it cold plays? Yeah sure, why not? What what
about this team? Like anybody looks at a one and
three record and you're like, but if you watch the
games and I did you know a couple will turnovers?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Right?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
I mean trying to make plays is the difference between
beating the Bears, beating the Jets, being three and one,
on being three and one on the season, where do
you think this team is in terms of expectations? Obviously,
you know Callahan year one, there's a lot of changes
going on. Now you come up to the meat of
you still got you coltson ad Bills at Lions, at Chargers.
(41:46):
What are your thoughts on where this team is in
its growth phase?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I mean I think a lot of a lot
of close games obviously the last four weeks. We've got
the guys to do it. I mean, we've got, you know,
a heck of a group the receivers, Ridley hop Tyler Boyd,
Traylon Burks, and then you know the two headed Wenster
Tony Pollard and Hodgie Spears who carried us, you know,
carried us last night. And then and then a great
(42:12):
defense that Nard Wilson who came down from from Baltimore,
who's got that you know, attack mentality and then heat
you up in different looks and they played great last
night as well. And so I think, yeah, anytime you
have a young rookie head coach is going to be
sort of some you know, uh, I guess skeptics. But
I think we've got the We've got the horsepowered man
(42:34):
to win games. And you know, like you said, you're
on paper, you look at those opponents and you're like, wow,
that's kind of a daunting task. But like the NFL is,
anyone can win each and every week. You see that
every week, and I think you get into the week
and you start prepping for him, and by by Saturday,
you know, Saturday night, you're feeling as confident as ever
(42:55):
and like you can go beat the eighty five Bears.
So I think, uh, I think got I think we
got a good, good group that stayed together. The head
coaches knows what he's doing. He's he's a smart guy,
he's a great play caller, and we're going to hit
the second half of the season, you know, with some
fire makes.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
You the best man. I really appreciate you joining us.
Congrats on the dub can't wait to see you back
out in the turf in the Titans uniform really really soon.
Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Thanks, Doug, appreciate it had to do with.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
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like you get just get done. You win a game.
You know, your NFL, your backup quarterback, you get in
money n football, You win a game, and then you know,
you get back to the you get to your phone
and your girlfriend's like, who dat what? And then you
see that Uh yeah, that was nine months ago.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I didn't know his relationship status at all, so I
wasn't sure if there was. It was more scandalous because
of the situation that he would have been in, but
I felt that that he addressed it pretty well to
be like, yeah, no, I did send her a message,
she responded back to me. And this was also months
ago that this happened. But I think that that's all
(44:28):
pretty fair.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah. I think he was single right to mingle in
this in the early offseason, and I think I don't know. Again,
I haven't pressed him like friends, but I'm not going
to act like we're like best friends whatever. I haven't
pressed him on, like what is current. I don't know
how long this girlfriend has been around. Would be my
my thing. But that was That was fun. That was fun.
It's also really good, like he's a really good, thoughtful guy,
(44:51):
Like something happens in your life. He sends you a
text like, good dude, to see him do well last night.
And obviously he didn't have to throw the ball a
ton man, that Tony Pollard cut. You want to talk
about some speed? Holy cow, that was impressive.