October 14, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug explains why he said back in January that the Cowboys should have hired Bill Belichick then, and what is wrong with this current Cowboys' team. Doug welcomes former NFL player and FSR Weekends host Geoff Schwartz onto the show to talk about the Oregon-Ohio State game Saturday and to cover all of the major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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At some point in the show, we'll get to Oregan's
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win over Ohio State. At some point in the show,
We'll get to Alabama's escape against South Carolina. At some
point in the show, we'll get to the I don't
hate to say I told you so, but I told
you so. Oklahoma is going to have a really tough
time in the sec Of course, we got I don't
know if you got how many of you guys watch
preseason basketball, but some really interesting stuff with White Dante
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talking trash or maybe venting about being traded to the Timberwolves.
Was it to Tom Thibodeau, Was it to Jalen Brunson?
Was it to Rick Brunson, who's an assistant coach, Jalen
Brunson's dad, man, We got that to get to. Oh yeah,
by the way, Friday night gave us an unreal upset
in baseball, which apparently the Dodgers listened to this show
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and follow Jason Stewart on Twitter because the Dodgers called
out all the all the Dodger fans that didn't think
it was possible for them to win to in a row.
They did. So the Dodgers, who in just the how
many hours have been since we turned off air on Friday,
I don't know, seventy two hours or so seventy two
hours span, they beat the Padres, and then they dominate
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the Mets yesterday, and now they're getting ready to play
again at Chebez Ravine on Indigenous People's Day, so early
daytime game at the Ravine. We get into that, and
we also have the NFL, where again we're not bearying
the lead. We'll have some we'll have a legit discussion
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on the Cowboys, not just because they're the Cowboys, but
because of the debacle. Bengals got to win an ugly
game last night against the Giants. I got to point out,
I know that the Broncos aren't good. I understand that,
but there there's two elements to that game which I
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find to be interesting and fascinating. This is the Doug
Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Coaching absolutely matters, and
there is no clearer, no clear way of expressing it
in a football team's story, more so than the LA Chargers.
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And you might say, hey, the Broncos stink. The Broncos
stunk last year, and they still beat the Chargers. But
the bigger thing is that is a really physical football team.
And you know, when you're a coach yourself, you're trying
to find ways to Hey, how can we look a
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certain way? How can we impose our will? What can
we lean into in our strengths? And Jay Stu, I
will give your credit. As much as you've hated on
your Dodgers and they've proven you to be incorrect. You
and I are both Lockstep and the Chargers now finally
have a coach, they have a vision, this is how
they're going to play, and they just mauled the Denver Broncos.
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My issue with Denver is this, I do wonder if
the things that Sean Payton has always done and been
successful with in New Orleans, I do wonder if the
game has evolved and changed and that stuff doesn't work anymore.
And here's the here's the parallel. Tim Hassebak told me
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Tim Hasseback course analyst. Is he still analyst to ESPN?
Timmy's yeah. Tim Hassebak told me that he was with
the Washington Redskins when Joe Gibbs came back again. Now
this is if you're Sam knows this because he's a
sports nut. Obviously, I know Dan, you and Jay Stu
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know this, But there's a lot of sports people that
don't remember that Joe Gibbs was a dominant coach. They
won three Super Bowls. Right then he retired and went
into NASCAR, and then he came back to run the
Redskins a second time. When he did, Tim Hasseback was
like the third string quarterback with that team, and I
remember him telling me that they basically laughed him out
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of the quarterbacks room because the offensive install when he
tried to say, hey, this is what we're going to run,
it had tight ends in a three point stance and
wide receivers in a three point stance, which is what
you used to see in the eighties, right, and the
mid to late nineties, obviously all that stuff had gone away.
The point about Denver and I know that, like, look,
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I love Sean Payton. He's always been good to me.
And Colin is all about sewn because they established a
friendship last couple of years working at Fox. But man,
there's a lot of people in the NFL that have
told me that Sean Payton is doing the same stuff
they did for the last fifteen years New Orleans and
it doesn't have the same effect as it used to.
All Right, enough about the Chargers, the Dodgers. Let's not
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even talk about the Ravens. As they've bounced back from
a two to two start. Now they're four and two.
They start out sluggish. That was a good football game,
Houston Texans. They'll come in and play the Packers. I
went to the Packers game just with the exception of
about five minutes. They are a complete demolition of the
Arizona Cardinals. Really disappointing performance from the Cardinals. Let's not
bury the lead. Let's talk about the Cowboys, shall we.
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So the Dallas Cowboys get absolutely eviscerated by the Detroit Lions.
It is to me that maybe the most interesting, least
discussed part about it is I am old enough and
most of us are to remember five years ago or
so we would watch a game where you'd say Detroit
and Dallas on TV, Like why is Detroit on a
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made for TV game? Like I can't watch the Lions
suck any longer? Like why do we have to continue
to feel like the Lions are at that They're just not.
They got cool uniforms and that's it. The Lions are legit.
That offense is obscene. And obviously, now the big question
is with Ad Hutchinson out for the year, what do
they do with their defense to form a pass rush?
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But obviously the bigger story is the Dallas Cowboys. Now,
I am telling you I told you so. I don't
mind telling you I told you so. And I don't
put all of it, or maybe even most of it
at the feet of Mike McCarthy, like Mike McCarthy was
a good coach for a long time. He's done a
really good job with the Cowboys. But my point was always, hey,
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there is is big games. Their issue is playoff games.
Over the past two years, two years ago Niners, last
year Packers, and then you look this year, it's been
the big games. So where the Cowboys have shown up
the least. This was after last season Belichick fired. This
is January sixteenth of this year. Okay, So if you
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were going to ask me, what would you do, bye,
this is an easy one to me. I fired Mike McCarthy.
I hire Bill Belichick. Listen. Is there an issue with fit? Sure?
Is there an issue with egos? Okay, fine, all that stuff,
but if you want the best outcome, you hire the best.
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Four straight home games, including a playoff game where they
have been behind by fifteen or more points at halftime,
that's an NFL first. The Cowboys have allowed one hundred
and sixty seven points in their last four home games.
That's the third most of her four game span in
NFL history. Here's Mike McCarthy after the loss.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I think clearly your good team facts are they're further
ahead of us right now. At this time in week six.
You know we're not taking care of the ball. We're
not taking it away. I mean, that's a number one
on the list of basics. As far as how we train,
we got to start there. I didn't do a very
good job today as far as you know, some of
the answers that our guys.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Needed, So it took some accountability. He's right, they are
turned the ball over too much. The man responsible for
two of those interceptions, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Be honest with one another, everybody, myself, I'm sure coach
said the same. Look in the mirror. Figure out what
we can do, how we can be better for this team,
Put better units out there and collectively make sure that
when we get on the road week after this, buy
that that we're a much better team than then we
put out there today, and try to build from that.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Here's Siri Jones after the game.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Would it take you to evaluate making a head coaching
change in season?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I have a name considered it. I'm not considering that.
Just so you're clear, I'm not considering that, but you've
done it.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
I wouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Be a hypothetical in that matter.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Do you think I'm an idiot, do you Okay, well,
I'm not going hypothetical with you about one. I'd consider
coaching change. And a lot of the timing we're sitting
here with I'm not at.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
All So he's putting on you got to do better. Yeah,
I do better now. I understand that many people, Jay
stew You're one that's pointed out that the Cowboys have
been all in, yet they didn't make many moves in
the offseason. My point would be what they meant by
all it is, Hey, we were close last year. We
just they thought we just had a bad game. Hey,
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Dak threw a cold picks. We just had a bad game.
We just running back will be better. And the reality
is that you lost Dan Quinn, who was absolutely a
star as a defensive coordinator. Right, he didn't recreate the
legion of boom he created when he was in Seattle,
but the defense had been the story of the past
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two years and specifically taking the football away. And what
jumped out, What jumps out at you is once again
Dak Prescott with two interceptions in a big game. And
then you have the Dak Prescott. Hey, this was the
last year of his contract, and yet all they did
was Acquiesce extended him huge money to all these guys,
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and here we are yet again. I don't actually even
think that you know what happens is when the Cowboys
was Cowboys interchieved. Everybody wants to point to Jerry Jones,
eighty two year old owner slash GM, he's not good enough.
But again, as people around the league, no one says
the Cowboys don't have good enough players. They may have
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spent money in places they didn't have to spend. This
roster doesn't necessarily look like it should with a Mike
Zimmer defense. But that's more about who you picked to
replace Dan Quinn and what style is he going to play?
And do they marry to the personnel you have. I
think it's one hundred percent about coaching and quarterback more
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so than about GM and ownership. That's I believe. How
many times do we have to see Dak Prescott in
a big game not play well before we have to
go like, look, I like Dak, right, but tangible intangibles
only get you so far. Tangibles are necessary, go and
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trace it. And this is no like, there's no like
genius to me. Football games are decided much like basketball games.
Turnovers are the are the most important stat and what
happened is the same as what happened with the Packers,
and the other part too. It is if the Lions
have had an issue all year, it's been stopping people. Right,
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I'm not rise. The Lions love the scoreboard. Everybody thinks
they got a big time offense coordinator. They got all
kinds of weapons. And if you can't pressure Jared Goff,
he's gonna light you up. They have a very good offense.
They're probably been defense. So one, your defense isn't as good,
doesn't apply pressure, doesn't take the football away. Having replaced
Dan Quinn, who departed to become head coach of the
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Washington Commanders. And two how many times are we gonna
sit here and go like Dack's not that good, doesn't
make the right decisions, turn the football over and unable
to keep pace with a check met Tell me what
I'm missing, right, tell me what I'm missing? And then
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you have the Aiden Hutchinson injury. Here's Dan Campbell, head
coach of the Detroit Lions, talking about its injury.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Hate it for hutch That's tough. He's in good hands
right now. He's being taken care of. He'll stay back here.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Obviously he's gonna be down for a little while. So
that's that's tough, man. It's hard when you lose. Somebody
will like him, but we'll know a lot more after
this and obviously wish him the best.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Here's Jared Goff, his quarterback, on his star defensive end.
It's really tough.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
He's a guy who's part of the heartbeat of this
team and as a leader does everything right. He's a
great teammate. He's everything you want and a player and
a teammate, and to have him go down like that
and to be visibly upset is tough for all of us.
And he will be fine. You know, he's gonna come
back eventually, whenever that may be. But knowing him, he
will be fine and he will bounce back.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
That that was a crazy one, wasn't it crazy one?
I basically informed everybody in Green Bay of the three
types of people last night. And if you're just if
you're new to the show, im you to the show,
you show this. If you're old to the show for
the last twenty years, you know I've been saying this.
There's three types. Few in this world. I don't want
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to see the injury. Don't show it to me. Just
show it to me once for what people are talking about.
Or I can watch this as many times as possible.
I'm gonna send it to every friend. And that's what
aid Nutch and and I have no like, there's no
disrespect for Uston. He's a stud. And but that was
a weird one, right, Like his leg goes flying and
all of a sudden it hits somebody else and it
just breaks in half. JASEU, how many times have you
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watched it?
Speaker 9 (14:16):
I'm proud to say I haven't seen it once. I
have not watched it once. I've steering clear of it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Feels like a challenge though, right Guys like oh a
Gottliebone send it to me. I'm gonna send it to him.
There's no question, Sammy, how many times have you watched it?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
I have not seen it?
Speaker 10 (14:29):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I kind of you usually like, I don't really maybe
I'll just watch it once. Type of guy. Have you
watched that one?
Speaker 11 (14:36):
I'm usually I don't care to see it, so I
haven't actively searched out for it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Okay, well I have. I've seen it a hundred times.
It's awesome and gross and sad at the same time. Yeah,
I mean his leg literally breaks a half breaks and half.
It's a yes, it's one of those. It's one of those.
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I just again, I don't I have no animus towards
Mike McCarthy, but like, how many times, how many years
do we have to do this? And this is the
regular season, it's been the postseason. I just thought the
Belichick thing was the right marriage. That's the right marriage.
But again, maybe you're moving around the deck chairs to
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the Titanic because Dak's not good enough at the end
of the day, because the defense is not gonna be
good enough, especially once you lost the architect of that defense.
There is and I would give Mike Zimmer a little
bit of a pass on it from this standpoint, the
new defensive coordinator taking over for the old defense coordinator.
Everybody thinks Zimmer's good, right, Nobody thinks, I gotta know
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how good ahead coach he is. He's a guy that
can be rough around the edges, but it's a DC.
He's really good. But this is going to somebody's house
and trying to learn to use their remote control, you know,
trying to learn to use their remote control. It's really
really hard till you get your own remote. Till you
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get your own remote. But what a debacle. Did you
guys see the video about with the with the late
Now here's a video you probably have seen. Have you
guys seen the one with the lady who some guys
hold her hair back and she's just thrown up in
a concourse and there's a Detroit Lions fan doing the
gritty right next to her. Oh, I love that. I
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just I love that. Sorry, I'm sorry to say I
love that.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
Stut Gottlip Show Fox Sports Radio. Sam, what are you
following my son on on Instagram? Is that what you're doing?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
No?
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I just pulled this man. I just have good taste.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Like, who is it?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
This is a little little Dirk and someone else?
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Wait a minute, will Dirk is the feature? This is
a DJ Kyle had song, but they sings the entire
thing is another.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
It's a little baby, Little Dirk and DJ little Baby.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
There is little little baby. There's a little baby and
there's dubababy. Yeah, there's a little baby, and there's baby.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
But there's no Dirk.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
There is no Dir, just little Dirk. Is there Big
Dirk or only little Dirk? Or is Big Dirk Dirk Novitski?
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yeah, that is that is cratched.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I don't really know.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
That's the only Big Dirk.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Let's welcome in Jeff Schwartz, of course, he's a former
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NFL stuff in a second. You're an organ first, can
you explain to people the putting the twelfth man on
the field and the play and why it was gee
a genius move to find a loophole within the rules.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
Yeah, so I think we assume he did it on purpose, right,
I mean, there's no confirmation that he did it on purpose,
but I think you have to be foolish to think otherwise, right, Doug.
I mean their Organs are very prepared. They called the
time out and then put the twelfth player on the
field sort of after everyone was set, so it was
like a late edition. And the thought process is it
was third and twenty five and there were ten seconds left,
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and if you give up yards, you know they get
into field goal range. And the best acid you have
at that moment is time time left on the clock.
If you have twelve guys in the field, us less
likely they're going to complete a pass. And they doubled
Jeremiah Smith and he had to have a long comeback.
He wasn't able to run deep and the ball was
thrown short. And the only penalty for that is five yards,
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but the clock, whatever runs down the clock stays right.
It's not a dead ball foul. So they traded five yards,
which you're not getting a state into field goal range
for for four seconds.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Essentially, it's a pretty good trade.
Speaker 10 (19:08):
And uh, this has been done before, but I don't
think in college football quite as often as the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So how do you how do you fix it? If
you're going to change the rule, obviously can't got away
till the offseason. You got to fix it.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Well, what's the fix going to? Because how can you
prove that it was? It was like done with malice
though in the time. That's the problem, right, Like, how
do you prove is every twelve man on the field
dead ballfowl? Essentially? So because what if Ohio State got
fifteen yards on that, they'd be pretty pissed. It was
only a five yard penalty and you know they were
able to run their play.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I would say that you have to You can reset
the clock.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Yeah you could, Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the
way to do it. Yeah, that'd be the I guess
the fairest way to do it. Uh, to fix that loopholes,
just put the clock back to ten seconds and but
the off it's gonna I guess decline in the clualk
and run. Yeah, that would be the first way to do.
Would just have to go back to ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Mm hmm. So gott leap show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, So in the grand scheme of things, like look,
the downside to it is doesn't have to be the
only time these two teams play in the Big Ten.
They could they both still could play in the playoff.
Do we are have you come to grips as a
college football guy, like we both love the NFL, we
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love college football. You and I both Okay, have we
come to the grips to the fact that even though
these games are awesome? Alabama Georgia was awesome. This game
was InCred incredible game. It doesn't mean as much as
it has for the past ever because there's twelve teams
getting in and the likehood is out of the big
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ten in the SEC, you're gonna get three to five
and to get that fourth or fifteam, they're gonna have
two or three losses.
Speaker 10 (20:59):
One of the things that I felt during the game is, uh,
not as much dread about losing because the season is
not over and that's one hundred percent of the total
team playoff, right, because in the previous years, if you
lose this game, you're basically out of the playoff.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Right, No, you probably have this is probably the only
game you can lose all year, and yes, then it's
a maybe, yes, maybe it's amazing.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
You also have to beat Ole Homestead again essentially, which
I think it's gonna be really hard to do if
we play them again, because that game was about as
even as you can as you can have a game, right,
so you know, and and now the realization that, I mean,
we can get upset surely by someone else, but we're
in the playoff like we're we're in now, like we
won this game. We're six and zero. You know, we're
probably not losing more than one if we get upset
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at some point and we're playing on house stated again,
and or maybe pen say if they beat ohiuse stated
in a couple of weeks and we're in the playoff now.
So I certainly thought about that during the game. But
how different it did feel that your season is not
quote unquote over with a loss. That's why I think
a lot of the games as we get down the
stretch here are going to feel that way. It's not
going to feel quite like the end of your season.
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If you lose a game that might determine your your
playoffs either or if you're if you're Georgia, you lost Alabama,
your season is not over. In years past it might
have felt that way. And so I think that's the
best part of the twelve teen playoff.
Speaker 11 (22:18):
Doug.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
I don't know if it gives us difference.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's part of the worst part.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
The best part, Like, I think the best part is
that is that And I think we've always looked at
this collegeable success through the prism of the playoff for
a lot of teams that really aren't playoff eligible, and
so we've wrongly decided that ten games is not good enough.
But now you're going to have so many teams, even
group of five teams dog, they're going to play the
next couple of weeks with real playoff implications, And I
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think it's it's one of the better things about twelve
team playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't know if that's a better thing or a
worse thing, but lessen than your your your opinion is
obviously your own. It is it is valid. Texas Oklahoma
was a was a blood letting.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Was that more about Texas? Was it more about Oklahoma?
Speaker 10 (23:01):
I think more about Oklahoma's offense. It's just not good.
They they haven't figured out anything on offense, any subbots
of offense. You know, their defense is fine. It's just
Texas is really good. I mean they allowed just at
the end of that game, they just allowed points and
points of points because you know, they couldn't you couldn't know,
couldn't keep up offensively. That's the problem is Oklahoma's offense.
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It's pretty shocky. I'm looking. I have the numbers pull
up right now. I mean points per drive. There are
one hundred and eleven in the country. There are one
hundred and twenty eighth country yards per place. It's Oklahoma.
I mean, they're that far removed from Lincoln Riley, right,
and they cannot go down the field and catch the
ball and complete. But I think I think it's fair
to say that. I think that's how the tweet that
you know could handful of their starting whiteouts were not in
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the game and haven't played for a little bit of time.
But still, it's rather shocking how poor this offense is.
I thought Texas was gonna win and cover that game
because I think Texas is just far better than Oklahoma,
so that that didn't surprise me. But the three points,
I mean, still that that's pretty shocking. So it's offense.
They can't They got rid of of Dylan Gabriel and
went with a young kid, and they had to bench him.
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And you can't figure out quarterback. And if you can't
figure out quarterback, you have no chance to win. But
you should in Oklahoma, though, you should look at Michigan.
You should be able to figure out quarterback. Is rather
surprising some of these blue bloods can't figure out quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, I just think there's a limit to how many
there are. Really, really would it comes down? Let me
ask you about USC big lead Penn Sta comes storm
back and gets the win. Obviously there's people that want
to run Lincoln Riley out of town. That's the that's
e USC's problem.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
For However, many years Clay Hilton was no matter how
much he wont he won the Rose Bowl, they wanted
to fire him, right and because of it, Like, recruits
aren't stupid to that, and it's hurt then, Plus they
weren't recruiting. Well, what are your thoughts if if you'd
if you took out the fact that the first year
you had Kayleb Williams and you tried to fix it
on the fly in terms of rebuild, what are your
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thoughts on USC and trying to rebuild themselves and where
they are?
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Yeah, so their problem is they have not developed any
offensive lineman, and to be fair, not any defensive lineman.
And I know that Lincoln Riley has basically said like
this is you know we try to do to the
portal did not work, and so this is year one
of our rebuild upfront. But it is year three though, right,
and so now by you know, your rebuild on that
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typically takes three years to mature. So now you're looking
at year five by the time some of these young
guys are like, really good, right, Doug, And how much
longer are you going to take? They're going to take
sort of this offense and the way it performs each
week with that offensive line, and they don't have a
lot of pros. It's kind of baffling to me. This
is the thing I mentioned last season when it came
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to the US He's offense and then, to be fair,
their defense, it's like where where are the pro guys at?
For as good as Riley had in Oklahoma and all
the pros he sent to the NFL, they don't have
him at USC right now?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Then do they not have do they? Do they not
have the money?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
What is the what is the I mean, I'm sure
the issue is money. And there's also the issue with
California does not produce linemen nearly the way they used to.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
Correct just not there's no Schwartz brothers out there, No
three stars from Palis a high school. I think I
think it's talent evaluation those positions, right. I mean, they're
getting players that are, at least according to a recruit ranking,
is good, right, and they're not developing those players into
being successful in their program. So that's what I see
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is the problem. I don't know what they do with
US that's different than anywhere else or other places that
successfully grow their players. But US is having a problem
right now developing town.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
Now.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Their wide receivers are young, so I think we can
give them a couple of years, but still they really
have their pros have been a lot of transfer portal
players that they brought in and they have not developed themselves.
And it is year three. They're they're not going to
have a bunch of developed pros yet. But even right now,
there's not a lot of guys on that roster that
you're looking as far as NFL talent. So they got
to figure that part out. They've got to figure out
the development part of their program right now.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Jeff Schwartz showing us of course. You can hear him
Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning with Bill Krackenberger, Brian
Now of course he's a Fox Sports Radio, NFL and
college football analyst, and of course that show is presented
by Bett MGM. Let me go to the NFL real quick.
If you had to say the biggest issue the Cowboys have,
what is it?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
They just look they look lifeless on defense right now
and they're just getting pushed. I mean the Lions just Doug.
They pushed him around, man. I mean even the first
drive I put a clip out today and Montgomery's touchdown run.
I mean the Lions are resetting the line of scrimmage
by three yards. I'm not I'm not saying that the
Cowboys are soft at all, but they look just lifeless
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on defense and offensively.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
How much is that? Let me let me ask you defensively? Okay,
so you have a guy in dan Quinn who builds
a defense, hands it off to Mike Zimmer. Zimmer is
like a fire and brimstone guy. But different says how
much of it is Zimmer with somebody else's guys? How
much of it is that?
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
What what are your thoughts on how it went from
a really good defense to a pathetic one.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
Well, inside, their defensive tackles just aren't very stout and
they just get pushed off the ball a lot. I'm
not sure that's a coach, it's an individual just maybe
not good enough to defend the run type of thing, right,
That's what I see. A lot of interior for them. Obviously,
the injuries haven't helped at all, injuries in the back end,
injuries at pass rusher. But you know, Zimmer was he
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kind of gets a really good rap for his defense
wasn't great the end of Minnesota either. I was kind
of surprised to hear when he was hired that people
thought the Cowboys defense would just be the same when
we know that coordinator changes, especially on that side the ball,
tend to produce defenses that have a lot of variants
from year to year. So I was a little surprised
that was sort of talking about handing the season. And
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then I think they just getting pushed around right now.
So it's a personnel thing and just a physical thing.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Jeff Schwartz joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Other big takeaway, I'm I went
to the Packer game. That was a blood letting. I
was stunned at how poorly Theirs when a Cardinals played.
They weren't really running Kyler. They couldn't get anything going
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in terms of the running game. And look, this is
a it's a Packers defense that doesn't pressure the passers
pentually well, but as bad as they were on offense, defensively,
Jordan Love had all time to throw. What happened to
the Cardinals? I thought they were playing pretty good well.
Speaker 10 (29:29):
I think the Niners game sort of skewed what they are.
I mean, they were down that game twenty three ten
thirteen halftime and somehow came all the way back and
one that game, Niners scored no second half points. Cardinals
defense is not good in the Niners for so whatever
reason did not take did not take advantage of it.
The Packers did. I'm a little surprised the Packers defense
play as well as they did. I think the Cardinals
offensively are good. The NFC north Man, you got three
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teams with point differentials I think all positive fifty. I mean,
some good football out there. And the Packers are one
of those teams where it's a big They play two
games with a back of quarterback and one two of
those that's such a big boost to the confidence of
your team. You add in Jordan Love and he gets
a little bit healthier, looks a bit better, and he
just sort of that they're playing as we thought they would.
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I just don't think Arizona is that good. And we
saw this weekend for the first time all season. The
bad teams were sort of bad. For the first five weeks,
the bad teams covered in even one games. But you
look at at Jacksonville and Arizona and the Raiders. The
Giants didn't cover last night. All the teams with with
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one loss two laws that we think are bad got
smoked yesterday. And maybe that's sort of coming back to
me now of the bad teams just being bad and
not being able to cover these games.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now, that's a great point because as we've talked about,
first four games are like extended preseason now because nobody
plays in the preseason, and now it really now as
things start to settle outside of teams that are banged
up with injury, the haves that have not seem to
separate themselves. Yesterday's JEF check them out every Sunday morning,
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Speaker 5 (31:12):
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Speaker 5 (31:42):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Hey Dan, what's the game today?
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Doug?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
The game is big deal, little deal, no deed?
Speaker 11 (31:53):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal that
the Padre is basically kept Otani and check during the
divisional series.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think it's a little deal because the Padres won.
I mean, because the Dodgers won, and he'll get he'll
get a chance to write a different narrative. Right had
they lost, it's a much bigger deal. I just again,
I know the numbers are the same. Had they lost
in Game five, we would have looked at it like
that's a huge deal. But now it's like, well, okay,
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they uh, what's his name? Teo hits a grand slam,
and Key k hits a home run to start him off,
and the ancillary pit parts pick it up. So uh,
in the grand scheme of things, it's a little deal
because they won.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
Interesting, you took it a lot more serious that I
meant for that. It was actually supposed to be like
a joke because that was the thing that the Padres
felt like they were hanging on to. Jason Stewart, is
that like correct, Like, well, we lost, but we kept
Otani in check.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:53):
I think that that was the one thing that they
cling to because like, it's amazing that a team that
like really loved an embraces brand of talking junk just
laid down for the last eighteen innings. They weren't even competitive.
Their top two hitters were one for fifteen. So to
say that we held otawny and check is like a
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way of maybe saving face, but they that was embarrassing
what they did the last two games.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Doug Now we're on the serious topics that Kevin Stefanski
is sticking by Deshaun Watson in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's no big deal, Like, what are you supposed to do?
It's too much money to set him out. This is
why no one will ever do a five year, fully
guaranteed contract ever again period.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
Stop, especially to a guy who sat out or on
full season and then missed another eleven games and then
we yeah, you keep going on and on. So is
that a no dealer? Is that a big deal? Because
he did a no big deal on that one. I
just need to know for the record, no deal deal,
all right, big deal, little dealer, no deal. That Bears
quarterback Caleb Williams threw four touchdown pass in their win
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over Jacksonville in London, A.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Big deal, I will point out. I mean, you guys
see those numbers on deep balls and he throw an
interception in a deep ball where it's like does he
not have a good arm? Like what's going on there?
But he's looked much more comfortable. They're finding better ways
to use him. He's making better reads, he's improving. That
that's a big deal.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
Could have had five, but a little pop pass that
they had to DJ Moore, he was marked down at
the half yard line. Would have been a cheap five,
but still a big deal. Little dealer, no deal, Doug
that Steelers quarterback Justin Fields had not won but two
rushing touchdowns in a win over the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
A little deal. I mean, look, they've tried to simplify
things for him, and part of that's why he fits
better with Arthur Smith than Russell West. What Russell Wilson does,
because Arthur Smith has go back those days, is as
Tennessee's offense corner utilized a running quarterback. I think that's
a big thing. Hey man, I'd much rather you run
it and even get a yard or two then I
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have you try and make a read on a defense,
which is something you're not great at.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
Yeah, that's the thing that Russell Wilson can't do really anymore.
Big deal, a little deal or no deal. That Mike
McDaniel says that to a tongue of Iloa will play
again this season for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That he said he will. Yes, that's a big deal
because there's a lot of people like, well he ever
play football again, let alone play this year. That's a
big deal, all right.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
Moving on to college football. Doug, big deal, A little
deal or no deal? That Alabama had trouble with South
Carolina this past weekend, a week after losing on the
road to Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, and then if you factor in the second half
against Georgia, they were hanging on for your dear life.
I do think it's a big deal. I think you
know you're a little bit of a tailspin. I can
get you from You know that you hit teams that
you might overlook. This is the challenge. But now you
go to Tennessee. At Tennessee who also, in fairness, survived Florida.
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I mean, why wouldn't Florida go for two at the
end of regulation. I don't understand that one, But it
feels like a big deal. Obviously everything changes if they
beat Tennessee on the road.
Speaker 11 (36:10):
Big deal, little deal or no deal Doug that Pitt
remained unbeaten with a win against cal this past weekend. Iowa, Sam,
do you want to you want to get in on
this huge Well, it's on the heels. Last week when
we did love and hate and then you did a love,
(36:33):
I did a love, Sam Uh, Jason did a love
and then Sam did four loves. Remember he does four
of them, and one of those was that Pitt was unbeaten.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
He just loved it, and so I did.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I just love those those perfect starts from teams that
don't usually do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Them have them.
Speaker 11 (36:50):
Yeah. So I don't know, I don't know if you
loved it as much as Iowa Sam did. But Pitt
is six and oh wow.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
To start the season, d c I.
Speaker 11 (37:01):
Big deal, little deal or no deal, Doug that the
Associated Press did not give any votes to the Green
Bay Phoenix in their preseason Top twenty five College Shops poll.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
That's a that's a massive oversight. Big deal, I mean,
just another case of rigged voting. So that is it's big.
They will learn, whoever they are, they'll learn. They'll learn.
Speaker 11 (37:25):
Starting November fourth, Yeah, you'll learn, people.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And that is game time.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Game. This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Programming Note November fourth, we will be doing the show
from Stillwater from Eskimo Joe's Buyer. You're gonna be there,
I know, Jason, You're gonna.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Be there, right, both of us.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yes, Oh, this is gonna gonna be fun, all right?
Coming up next, Love and Hate, what'd you love from
the weekend. What'd you hate? We'll share ours next on
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win over Ohio State. At some point in the show,
We'll get to Alabama's escape against South Carolina. At some
point in the show, we'll get to the I don't
hate to say I told you so, but I told
you so. Oklahoma is going to have a really tough
time in the sec Of course, we got I don't
know if you got how many of you guys watch
preseason basketball, but some really interesting stuff with White Dante
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talking trash or maybe venting about being traded to the Timberwolves.
Was it to Tom Thibodeau, Was it to Jalen Brunson?
Was it to Rick Brunson, who's an assistant coach, Jalen
Brunson's dad, man, We got that to get to. Oh yeah,
by the way, Friday night gave us an unreal upset
in baseball, which apparently the Dodgers listened to this show
(01:30):
and follow Jason Stewart on Twitter because the Dodgers called
out all the all the Dodger fans that didn't think
it was possible for them to win to in a row.
They did. So the Dodgers, who in just the how
many hours have been since we turned off air on Friday,
I don't know, seventy two hours or so seventy two
hours span, they beat the Padres, and then they dominate
(01:52):
the Mets yesterday, and now they're getting ready to play
again at Chebez Ravine on Indigenous People's Day, so early
daytime game at the Ravine. We get into that, and
we also have the NFL, where again we're not bearying
the lead. We'll have some we'll have a legit discussion
(02:13):
on the Cowboys, not just because they're the Cowboys, but
because of the debacle. Bengals got to win an ugly
game last night against the Giants. I got to point out,
I know that the Broncos aren't good. I understand that,
but there there's two elements to that game which I
(02:35):
find to be interesting and fascinating. This is the Doug
Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Coaching absolutely matters, and
there is no clearer, no clear way of expressing it
in a football team's story, more so than the LA Chargers.
(02:58):
And you might say, hey, the Broncos stink. The Broncos
stunk last year, and they still beat the Chargers. But
the bigger thing is that is a really physical football team.
And you know, when you're a coach yourself, you're trying
to find ways to Hey, how can we look a
(03:18):
certain way? How can we impose our will? What can
we lean into in our strengths? And Jay Stu, I
will give your credit. As much as you've hated on
your Dodgers and they've proven you to be incorrect. You
and I are both Lockstep and the Chargers now finally
have a coach, they have a vision, this is how
they're going to play, and they just mauled the Denver Broncos.
(03:40):
My issue with Denver is this, I do wonder if
the things that Sean Payton has always done and been
successful with in New Orleans, I do wonder if the
game has evolved and changed and that stuff doesn't work anymore.
And here's the here's the parallel. Tim Hassebak told me
(04:01):
Tim Hasseback course analyst. Is he still analyst to ESPN?
Timmy's yeah. Tim Hassebak told me that he was with
the Washington Redskins when Joe Gibbs came back again. Now
this is if you're Sam knows this because he's a
sports nut. Obviously, I know Dan, you and Jay Stu
(04:22):
know this, But there's a lot of sports people that
don't remember that Joe Gibbs was a dominant coach. They
won three Super Bowls. Right then he retired and went
into NASCAR, and then he came back to run the
Redskins a second time. When he did, Tim Hasseback was
like the third string quarterback with that team, and I
remember him telling me that they basically laughed him out
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of the quarterbacks room because the offensive install when he
tried to say, hey, this is what we're going to run,
it had tight ends in a three point stance and
wide receivers in a three point stance, which is what
you used to see in the eighties, right, and the
mid to late nineties, obviously all that stuff had gone away.
The point about Denver and I know that, like, look,
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I love Sean Payton. He's always been good to me.
And Colin is all about sewn because they established a
friendship last couple of years working at Fox. But man,
there's a lot of people in the NFL that have
told me that Sean Payton is doing the same stuff
they did for the last fifteen years New Orleans and
it doesn't have the same effect as it used to.
All Right, enough about the Chargers, the Dodgers. Let's not
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even talk about the Ravens. As they've bounced back from
a two to two start. Now they're four and two.
They start out sluggish. That was a good football game,
Houston Texans. They'll come in and play the Packers. I
went to the Packers game just with the exception of
about five minutes. They are a complete demolition of the
Arizona Cardinals. Really disappointing performance from the Cardinals. Let's not
bury the lead. Let's talk about the Cowboys, shall we.
(05:54):
So the Dallas Cowboys get absolutely eviscerated by the Detroit Lions.
It is to me that maybe the most interesting, least
discussed part about it is I am old enough and
most of us are to remember five years ago or
so we would watch a game where you'd say Detroit
and Dallas on TV, Like why is Detroit on a
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made for TV game? Like I can't watch the Lions
suck any longer? Like why do we have to continue
to feel like the Lions are at that They're just not.
They got cool uniforms and that's it. The Lions are legit.
That offense is obscene. And obviously, now the big question
is with Ad Hutchinson out for the year, what do
they do with their defense to form a pass rush?
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But obviously the bigger story is the Dallas Cowboys. Now,
I am telling you I told you so. I don't
mind telling you I told you so. And I don't
put all of it, or maybe even most of it
at the feet of Mike McCarthy, like Mike McCarthy was
a good coach for a long time. He's done a
really good job with the Cowboys. But my point was always, hey,
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there is is big games. Their issue is playoff games.
Over the past two years, two years ago Niners, last
year Packers, and then you look this year, it's been
the big games. So where the Cowboys have shown up
the least. This was after last season Belichick fired. This
is January sixteenth of this year. Okay, So if you
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were going to ask me, what would you do, bye,
this is an easy one to me. I fired Mike McCarthy.
I hire Bill Belichick. Listen. Is there an issue with fit? Sure?
Is there an issue with egos? Okay, fine, all that stuff,
but if you want the best outcome, you hire the best.
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Four straight home games, including a playoff game where they
have been behind by fifteen or more points at halftime,
that's an NFL first. The Cowboys have allowed one hundred
and sixty seven points in their last four home games.
That's the third most of her four game span in
NFL history. Here's Mike McCarthy after the loss.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I think clearly your good team facts are they're further
ahead of us right now. At this time in week six.
You know we're not taking care of the ball. We're
not taking it away. I mean, that's a number one
on the list of basics. As far as how we train,
we got to start there. I didn't do a very
good job today as far as you know, some of
the answers that our guys.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Needed, So it took some accountability. He's right, they are
turned the ball over too much. The man responsible for
two of those interceptions, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Be honest with one another, everybody, myself, I'm sure coach
said the same. Look in the mirror. Figure out what
we can do, how we can be better for this team,
Put better units out there and collectively make sure that
when we get on the road week after this, buy
that that we're a much better team than then we
put out there today, and try to build from that.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Here's Siri Jones after the game.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Would it take you to evaluate making a head coaching
change in season?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I have a name considered it. I'm not considering that.
Just so you're clear, I'm not considering that, but you've
done it.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
I wouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Be a hypothetical in that matter.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Do you think I'm an idiot, do you Okay, well,
I'm not going hypothetical with you about one. I'd consider
coaching change. And a lot of the timing we're sitting
here with I'm not at.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
All So he's putting on you got to do better. Yeah,
I do better now. I understand that many people, Jay
stew You're one that's pointed out that the Cowboys have
been all in, yet they didn't make many moves in
the offseason. My point would be what they meant by
all it is, Hey, we were close last year. We
just they thought we just had a bad game. Hey,
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Dak threw a cold picks. We just had a bad game.
We just running back will be better. And the reality
is that you lost Dan Quinn, who was absolutely a
star as a defensive coordinator. Right, he didn't recreate the
legion of boom he created when he was in Seattle,
but the defense had been the story of the past
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two years and specifically taking the football away. And what
jumped out, What jumps out at you is once again
Dak Prescott with two interceptions in a big game. And
then you have the Dak Prescott. Hey, this was the
last year of his contract, and yet all they did
was Acquiesce extended him huge money to all these guys,
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and here we are yet again. I don't actually even
think that you know what happens is when the Cowboys
was Cowboys interchieved. Everybody wants to point to Jerry Jones,
eighty two year old owner slash GM, he's not good enough.
But again, as people around the league, no one says
the Cowboys don't have good enough players. They may have
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spent money in places they didn't have to spend. This
roster doesn't necessarily look like it should with a Mike
Zimmer defense. But that's more about who you picked to
replace Dan Quinn and what style is he going to play?
And do they marry to the personnel you have. I
think it's one hundred percent about coaching and quarterback more
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so than about GM and ownership. That's I believe. How
many times do we have to see Dak Prescott in
a big game not play well before we have to
go like, look, I like Dak, right, but tangible intangibles
only get you so far. Tangibles are necessary, go and
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trace it. And this is no like, there's no like
genius to me. Football games are decided much like basketball games.
Turnovers are the are the most important stat and what
happened is the same as what happened with the Packers,
and the other part too. It is if the Lions
have had an issue all year, it's been stopping people. Right,
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I'm not rise. The Lions love the scoreboard. Everybody thinks
they got a big time offense coordinator. They got all
kinds of weapons. And if you can't pressure Jared Goff,
he's gonna light you up. They have a very good offense.
They're probably been defense. So one, your defense isn't as good,
doesn't apply pressure, doesn't take the football away. Having replaced
Dan Quinn, who departed to become head coach of the
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Washington Commanders. And two how many times are we gonna
sit here and go like Dack's not that good, doesn't
make the right decisions, turn the football over and unable
to keep pace with a check met Tell me what
I'm missing, right, tell me what I'm missing? And then
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you have the Aiden Hutchinson injury. Here's Dan Campbell, head
coach of the Detroit Lions, talking about its injury.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Hate it for hutch That's tough. He's in good hands
right now. He's being taken care of. He'll stay back here.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Obviously he's gonna be down for a little while. So
that's that's tough, man. It's hard when you lose. Somebody
will like him, but we'll know a lot more after
this and obviously wish him the best.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Here's Jared Goff, his quarterback, on his star defensive end.
It's really tough.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
He's a guy who's part of the heartbeat of this
team and as a leader does everything right. He's a
great teammate. He's everything you want and a player and
a teammate, and to have him go down like that
and to be visibly upset is tough for all of us.
And he will be fine. You know, he's gonna come
back eventually, whenever that may be. But knowing him, he
will be fine and he will bounce back.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
That that was a crazy one, wasn't it crazy one?
I basically informed everybody in Green Bay of the three
types of people last night. And if you're just if
you're new to the show, im you to the show,
you show this. If you're old to the show for
the last twenty years, you know I've been saying this.
There's three types. Few in this world. I don't want
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to see the injury. Don't show it to me. Just
show it to me once for what people are talking about.
Or I can watch this as many times as possible.
I'm gonna send it to every friend. And that's what
aid Nutch and and I have no like, there's no
disrespect for Uston. He's a stud. And but that was
a weird one, right, Like his leg goes flying and
all of a sudden it hits somebody else and it
just breaks in half. JASEU, how many times have you
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watched it?
Speaker 9 (14:16):
I'm proud to say I haven't seen it once. I
have not watched it once. I've steering clear of it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Feels like a challenge though, right Guys like oh a
Gottliebone send it to me. I'm gonna send it to him.
There's no question, Sammy, how many times have you watched it?
Speaker 7 (14:28):
I have not seen it?
Speaker 10 (14:29):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I kind of you usually like, I don't really maybe
I'll just watch it once. Type of guy. Have you
watched that one?
Speaker 11 (14:36):
I'm usually I don't care to see it, so I
haven't actively searched out for it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Okay, well I have. I've seen it a hundred times.
It's awesome and gross and sad at the same time. Yeah,
I mean his leg literally breaks a half breaks and half.
It's a yes, it's one of those. It's one of those.
(15:04):
I just again, I don't I have no animus towards
Mike McCarthy, but like, how many times, how many years
do we have to do this? And this is the
regular season, it's been the postseason. I just thought the
Belichick thing was the right marriage. That's the right marriage.
But again, maybe you're moving around the deck chairs to
(15:26):
the Titanic because Dak's not good enough at the end
of the day, because the defense is not gonna be
good enough, especially once you lost the architect of that defense.
There is and I would give Mike Zimmer a little
bit of a pass on it from this standpoint, the
new defensive coordinator taking over for the old defense coordinator.
Everybody thinks Zimmer's good, right, Nobody thinks, I gotta know
(15:47):
how good ahead coach he is. He's a guy that
can be rough around the edges, but it's a DC.
He's really good. But this is going to somebody's house
and trying to learn to use their remote control, you know,
trying to learn to use their remote control. It's really
really hard till you get your own remote. Till you
(16:09):
get your own remote. But what a debacle. Did you
guys see the video about with the with the late
Now here's a video you probably have seen. Have you
guys seen the one with the lady who some guys
hold her hair back and she's just thrown up in
a concourse and there's a Detroit Lions fan doing the
gritty right next to her. Oh, I love that. I
(16:32):
just I love that. Sorry, I'm sorry to say I
love that.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
Stut Gottlip Show Fox Sports Radio. Sam, what are you
following my son on on Instagram? Is that what you're doing?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
No?
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I just pulled this man. I just have good taste.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Like, who is it?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
This is a little little Dirk and someone else?
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Wait a minute, will Dirk is the feature? This is
a DJ Kyle had song, but they sings the entire
thing is another.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
It's a little baby, Little Dirk and DJ little Baby.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
There is little little baby. There's a little baby and
there's dubababy. Yeah, there's a little baby, and there's baby.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
But there's no Dirk.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
There is no Dir, just little Dirk. Is there Big
Dirk or only little Dirk? Or is Big Dirk Dirk Novitski?
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Yeah, that is that is cratched.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I don't really know.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
That's the only Big Dirk.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Let's welcome in Jeff Schwartz, of course, he's a former
NFL lineman. He co hosts Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff,
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NFL stuff in a second. You're an organ first, can
you explain to people the putting the twelfth man on
the field and the play and why it was gee
a genius move to find a loophole within the rules.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
Yeah, so I think we assume he did it on purpose, right,
I mean, there's no confirmation that he did it on purpose,
but I think you have to be foolish to think otherwise, right, Doug.
I mean their Organs are very prepared. They called the
time out and then put the twelfth player on the
field sort of after everyone was set, so it was
like a late edition. And the thought process is it
was third and twenty five and there were ten seconds left,
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and if you give up yards, you know they get
into field goal range. And the best acid you have
at that moment is time time left on the clock.
If you have twelve guys in the field, us less
likely they're going to complete a pass. And they doubled
Jeremiah Smith and he had to have a long comeback.
He wasn't able to run deep and the ball was
thrown short. And the only penalty for that is five yards,
(18:56):
but the clock, whatever runs down the clock stays right.
It's not a dead ball foul. So they traded five yards,
which you're not getting a state into field goal range
for for four seconds.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Essentially, it's a pretty good trade.
Speaker 10 (19:08):
And uh, this has been done before, but I don't
think in college football quite as often as the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So how do you how do you fix it? If
you're going to change the rule, obviously can't got away
till the offseason. You got to fix it.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Well, what's the fix going to? Because how can you
prove that it was? It was like done with malice
though in the time. That's the problem, right, Like, how
do you prove is every twelve man on the field
dead ballfowl? Essentially? So because what if Ohio State got
fifteen yards on that, they'd be pretty pissed. It was
only a five yard penalty and you know they were
able to run their play.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I would say that you have to You can reset
the clock.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Yeah you could, Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the
way to do it. Yeah, that'd be the I guess
the fairest way to do it. Uh, to fix that loopholes,
just put the clock back to ten seconds and but
the off it's gonna I guess decline in the clualk
and run. Yeah, that would be the first way to do.
Would just have to go back to ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Mm hmm. So gott leap show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, So in the grand scheme of things, like look,
the downside to it is doesn't have to be the
only time these two teams play in the Big Ten.
They could they both still could play in the playoff.
Do we are have you come to grips as a
college football guy, like we both love the NFL, we
(20:31):
love college football. You and I both Okay, have we
come to the grips to the fact that even though
these games are awesome? Alabama Georgia was awesome. This game
was InCred incredible game. It doesn't mean as much as
it has for the past ever because there's twelve teams
getting in and the likehood is out of the big
(20:52):
ten in the SEC, you're gonna get three to five
and to get that fourth or fifteam, they're gonna have
two or three losses.
Speaker 10 (20:59):
One of the things that I felt during the game is, uh,
not as much dread about losing because the season is
not over and that's one hundred percent of the total
team playoff, right, because in the previous years, if you
lose this game, you're basically out of the playoff.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Right, No, you probably have this is probably the only
game you can lose all year, and yes, then it's
a maybe, yes, maybe it's amazing.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
You also have to beat Ole Homestead again essentially, which
I think it's gonna be really hard to do if
we play them again, because that game was about as
even as you can as you can have a game, right,
so you know, and and now the realization that, I mean,
we can get upset surely by someone else, but we're
in the playoff like we're we're in now, like we
won this game. We're six and zero. You know, we're
probably not losing more than one if we get upset
(21:45):
at some point and we're playing on house stated again,
and or maybe pen say if they beat ohiuse stated
in a couple of weeks and we're in the playoff now.
So I certainly thought about that during the game. But
how different it did feel that your season is not
quote unquote over with a loss. That's why I think
a lot of the games as we get down the
stretch here are going to feel that way. It's not
going to feel quite like the end of your season.
(22:07):
If you lose a game that might determine your your
playoffs either or if you're if you're Georgia, you lost Alabama,
your season is not over. In years past it might
have felt that way. And so I think that's the
best part of the twelve teen playoff.
Speaker 11 (22:18):
Doug.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
I don't know if it gives us difference.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's part of the worst part.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
The best part, Like, I think the best part is
that is that And I think we've always looked at
this collegeable success through the prism of the playoff for
a lot of teams that really aren't playoff eligible, and
so we've wrongly decided that ten games is not good enough.
But now you're going to have so many teams, even
group of five teams dog, they're going to play the
next couple of weeks with real playoff implications, And I
(22:42):
think it's it's one of the better things about twelve
team playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I don't know if that's a better thing or a
worse thing, but lessen than your your your opinion is
obviously your own. It is it is valid. Texas Oklahoma
was a was a blood letting.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Was that more about Texas? Was it more about Oklahoma?
Speaker 10 (23:01):
I think more about Oklahoma's offense. It's just not good.
They they haven't figured out anything on offense, any subbots
of offense. You know, their defense is fine. It's just
Texas is really good. I mean they allowed just at
the end of that game, they just allowed points and
points of points because you know, they couldn't you couldn't know,
couldn't keep up offensively. That's the problem is Oklahoma's offense.
(23:23):
It's pretty shocky. I'm looking. I have the numbers pull
up right now. I mean points per drive. There are
one hundred and eleven in the country. There are one
hundred and twenty eighth country yards per place. It's Oklahoma.
I mean, they're that far removed from Lincoln Riley, right,
and they cannot go down the field and catch the
ball and complete. But I think I think it's fair
to say that. I think that's how the tweet that
you know could handful of their starting whiteouts were not in
(23:44):
the game and haven't played for a little bit of time.
But still, it's rather shocking how poor this offense is.
I thought Texas was gonna win and cover that game
because I think Texas is just far better than Oklahoma,
so that that didn't surprise me. But the three points,
I mean, still that that's pretty shocking. So it's offense.
They can't They got rid of of Dylan Gabriel and
went with a young kid, and they had to bench him.
(24:06):
And you can't figure out quarterback. And if you can't
figure out quarterback, you have no chance to win. But
you should in Oklahoma, though, you should look at Michigan.
You should be able to figure out quarterback. Is rather
surprising some of these blue bloods can't figure out quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, I just think there's a limit to how many
there are. Really, really would it comes down? Let me
ask you about USC big lead Penn Sta comes storm
back and gets the win. Obviously there's people that want
to run Lincoln Riley out of town. That's the that's
e USC's problem.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
For However, many years Clay Hilton was no matter how
much he wont he won the Rose Bowl, they wanted
to fire him, right and because of it, Like, recruits
aren't stupid to that, and it's hurt then, Plus they
weren't recruiting. Well, what are your thoughts if if you'd
if you took out the fact that the first year
you had Kayleb Williams and you tried to fix it
on the fly in terms of rebuild, what are your
(24:57):
thoughts on USC and trying to rebuild themselves and where
they are?
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Yeah, so their problem is they have not developed any
offensive lineman, and to be fair, not any defensive lineman.
And I know that Lincoln Riley has basically said like
this is you know we try to do to the
portal did not work, and so this is year one
of our rebuild upfront. But it is year three though, right,
and so now by you know, your rebuild on that
(25:22):
typically takes three years to mature. So now you're looking
at year five by the time some of these young
guys are like, really good, right, Doug, And how much
longer are you going to take? They're going to take
sort of this offense and the way it performs each
week with that offensive line, and they don't have a
lot of pros. It's kind of baffling to me. This
is the thing I mentioned last season when it came
(25:43):
to the US He's offense and then, to be fair,
their defense, it's like where where are the pro guys at?
For as good as Riley had in Oklahoma and all
the pros he sent to the NFL, they don't have
him at USC right now?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Then do they not have do they? Do they not
have the money?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Like?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
What is the what is the I mean, I'm sure
the issue is money. And there's also the issue with
California does not produce linemen nearly the way they used to.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
Correct just not there's no Schwartz brothers out there, No
three stars from Palis a high school. I think I
think it's talent evaluation those positions, right. I mean, they're
getting players that are, at least according to a recruit ranking,
is good, right, and they're not developing those players into
being successful in their program. So that's what I see
(26:27):
is the problem. I don't know what they do with
US that's different than anywhere else or other places that
successfully grow their players. But US is having a problem
right now developing town.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
Now.
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Their wide receivers are young, so I think we can
give them a couple of years, but still they really
have their pros have been a lot of transfer portal
players that they brought in and they have not developed themselves.
And it is year three. They're they're not going to
have a bunch of developed pros yet. But even right now,
there's not a lot of guys on that roster that
you're looking as far as NFL talent. So they got
to figure that part out. They've got to figure out
the development part of their program right now.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Jeff Schwartz showing us of course. You can hear him
Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning with Bill Krackenberger, Brian
Now of course he's a Fox Sports Radio, NFL and
college football analyst, and of course that show is presented
by Bett MGM. Let me go to the NFL real quick.
If you had to say the biggest issue the Cowboys have,
what is it?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
They just look they look lifeless on defense right now
and they're just getting pushed. I mean the Lions just Doug.
They pushed him around, man. I mean even the first
drive I put a clip out today and Montgomery's touchdown run.
I mean the Lions are resetting the line of scrimmage
by three yards. I'm not I'm not saying that the
Cowboys are soft at all, but they look just lifeless
(27:41):
on defense and offensively.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
How much is that? Let me let me ask you defensively? Okay,
so you have a guy in dan Quinn who builds
a defense, hands it off to Mike Zimmer. Zimmer is
like a fire and brimstone guy. But different says how
much of it is Zimmer with somebody else's guys? How
much of it is that?
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
What what are your thoughts on how it went from
a really good defense to a pathetic one.
Speaker 10 (28:03):
Well, inside, their defensive tackles just aren't very stout and
they just get pushed off the ball a lot. I'm
not sure that's a coach, it's an individual just maybe
not good enough to defend the run type of thing, right,
That's what I see. A lot of interior for them. Obviously,
the injuries haven't helped at all, injuries in the back end,
injuries at pass rusher. But you know, Zimmer was he
(28:27):
kind of gets a really good rap for his defense
wasn't great the end of Minnesota either. I was kind
of surprised to hear when he was hired that people
thought the Cowboys defense would just be the same when
we know that coordinator changes, especially on that side the ball,
tend to produce defenses that have a lot of variants
from year to year. So I was a little surprised
that was sort of talking about handing the season. And
(28:48):
then I think they just getting pushed around right now.
So it's a personnel thing and just a physical thing.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Jeff Schwartz joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Other big takeaway, I'm I went
to the Packer game. That was a blood letting. I
was stunned at how poorly Theirs when a Cardinals played.
They weren't really running Kyler. They couldn't get anything going
(29:15):
in terms of the running game. And look, this is
a it's a Packers defense that doesn't pressure the passers
pentually well, but as bad as they were on offense, defensively,
Jordan Love had all time to throw. What happened to
the Cardinals? I thought they were playing pretty good well.
Speaker 10 (29:29):
I think the Niners game sort of skewed what they are.
I mean, they were down that game twenty three ten
thirteen halftime and somehow came all the way back and
one that game, Niners scored no second half points. Cardinals
defense is not good in the Niners for so whatever
reason did not take did not take advantage of it.
The Packers did. I'm a little surprised the Packers defense
play as well as they did. I think the Cardinals
offensively are good. The NFC north Man, you got three
(29:52):
teams with point differentials I think all positive fifty. I mean,
some good football out there. And the Packers are one
of those teams where it's a big They play two
games with a back of quarterback and one two of
those that's such a big boost to the confidence of
your team. You add in Jordan Love and he gets
a little bit healthier, looks a bit better, and he
just sort of that they're playing as we thought they would.
(30:13):
I just don't think Arizona is that good. And we
saw this weekend for the first time all season. The
bad teams were sort of bad. For the first five weeks,
the bad teams covered in even one games. But you
look at at Jacksonville and Arizona and the Raiders. The
Giants didn't cover last night. All the teams with with
(30:33):
one loss two laws that we think are bad got
smoked yesterday. And maybe that's sort of coming back to
me now of the bad teams just being bad and
not being able to cover these games.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now, that's a great point because as we've talked about,
first four games are like extended preseason now because nobody
plays in the preseason, and now it really now as
things start to settle outside of teams that are banged
up with injury, the haves that have not seem to
separate themselves. Yesterday's JEF check them out every Sunday morning,
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New Year to you. Thanks for joining us, you buddy here.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
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Speaker 1 (31:20):
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Speaker 5 (31:42):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Hey Dan, what's the game today?
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Doug?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
The game is big deal, little deal, no deed?
Speaker 11 (31:53):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal that
the Padre is basically kept Otani and check during the
divisional series.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think it's a little deal because the Padres won.
I mean, because the Dodgers won, and he'll get he'll
get a chance to write a different narrative. Right had
they lost, it's a much bigger deal. I just again,
I know the numbers are the same. Had they lost
in Game five, we would have looked at it like
that's a huge deal. But now it's like, well, okay,
(32:22):
they uh, what's his name? Teo hits a grand slam,
and Key k hits a home run to start him off,
and the ancillary pit parts pick it up. So uh,
in the grand scheme of things, it's a little deal
because they won.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
Interesting, you took it a lot more serious that I
meant for that. It was actually supposed to be like
a joke because that was the thing that the Padres
felt like they were hanging on to. Jason Stewart, is
that like correct, Like, well, we lost, but we kept
Otani in check.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:53):
I think that that was the one thing that they
cling to because like, it's amazing that a team that
like really loved an embraces brand of talking junk just
laid down for the last eighteen innings. They weren't even competitive.
Their top two hitters were one for fifteen. So to
say that we held otawny and check is like a
(33:14):
way of maybe saving face, but they that was embarrassing
what they did the last two games.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Doug Now we're on the serious topics that Kevin Stefanski
is sticking by Deshaun Watson in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's no big deal, Like, what are you supposed to do?
It's too much money to set him out. This is
why no one will ever do a five year, fully
guaranteed contract ever again period.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
Stop, especially to a guy who sat out or on
full season and then missed another eleven games and then
we yeah, you keep going on and on. So is
that a no dealer? Is that a big deal? Because
he did a no big deal on that one. I
just need to know for the record, no deal deal,
all right, big deal, little dealer, no deal. That Bears
quarterback Caleb Williams threw four touchdown pass in their win
(34:00):
over Jacksonville in London, A.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Big deal, I will point out. I mean, you guys
see those numbers on deep balls and he throw an
interception in a deep ball where it's like does he
not have a good arm? Like what's going on there?
But he's looked much more comfortable. They're finding better ways
to use him. He's making better reads, he's improving. That
that's a big deal.
Speaker 11 (34:19):
Could have had five, but a little pop pass that
they had to DJ Moore, he was marked down at
the half yard line. Would have been a cheap five,
but still a big deal. Little dealer, no deal, Doug
that Steelers quarterback Justin Fields had not won but two
rushing touchdowns in a win over the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
A little deal. I mean, look, they've tried to simplify
things for him, and part of that's why he fits
better with Arthur Smith than Russell West. What Russell Wilson does,
because Arthur Smith has go back those days, is as
Tennessee's offense corner utilized a running quarterback. I think that's
a big thing. Hey man, I'd much rather you run
it and even get a yard or two then I
(35:00):
have you try and make a read on a defense,
which is something you're not great at.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
Yeah, that's the thing that Russell Wilson can't do really anymore.
Big deal, a little deal or no deal. That Mike
McDaniel says that to a tongue of Iloa will play
again this season for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That he said he will. Yes, that's a big deal
because there's a lot of people like, well he ever
play football again, let alone play this year. That's a
big deal, all right.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
Moving on to college football. Doug, big deal, A little
deal or no deal? That Alabama had trouble with South
Carolina this past weekend, a week after losing on the
road to Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, and then if you factor in the second half
against Georgia, they were hanging on for your dear life.
I do think it's a big deal. I think you
know you're a little bit of a tailspin. I can
get you from You know that you hit teams that
you might overlook. This is the challenge. But now you
go to Tennessee. At Tennessee who also, in fairness, survived Florida.
(35:59):
I mean, why wouldn't Florida go for two at the
end of regulation. I don't understand that one, But it
feels like a big deal. Obviously everything changes if they
beat Tennessee on the road.
Speaker 11 (36:10):
Big deal, little deal or no deal Doug that Pitt
remained unbeaten with a win against cal this past weekend. Iowa, Sam,
do you want to you want to get in on
this huge Well, it's on the heels. Last week when
we did love and hate and then you did a love,
(36:33):
I did a love, Sam Uh, Jason did a love
and then Sam did four loves. Remember he does four
of them, and one of those was that Pitt was unbeaten.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
He just loved it, and so I did.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I just love those those perfect starts from teams that
don't usually do.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Them have them.
Speaker 11 (36:50):
Yeah. So I don't know, I don't know if you
loved it as much as Iowa Sam did. But Pitt
is six and oh wow.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
To start the season, d c I.
Speaker 11 (37:01):
Big deal, little deal or no deal, Doug that the
Associated Press did not give any votes to the Green
Bay Phoenix in their preseason Top twenty five College Shops poll.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
That's a that's a massive oversight. Big deal, I mean,
just another case of rigged voting. So that is it's big.
They will learn, whoever they are, they'll learn. They'll learn.
Speaker 11 (37:25):
Starting November fourth, Yeah, you'll learn, people.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And that is game time.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Game. This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Programming Note November fourth, we will be doing the show
from Stillwater from Eskimo Joe's Buyer. You're gonna be there,
I know, Jason, You're gonna.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Be there, right, both of us.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yes, Oh, this is gonna gonna be fun, all right?
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the weekend. What'd you hate? We'll share ours next on
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Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.