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October 17, 2024 44 mins

On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug goes over the Dodgers win over the Mets in game three and taking a 2-1 series lead, and explains why baseball needs a World Series involving the Yankees and Dodgers. 

Doug welcomes college football analyst and former NFL quarterback Danny Kanell onto the show to discuss the weekend of college football.

On this version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday!", Jason Stewart takes Doug and the guys through the sports year of 2016. 

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(00:54):
what Jason Stewart's thinking, because he did actually predict what
happened last night to happen. But I almost feel like
he did it because he wanted to be wrong. It's
a lot like when they played the Padres and he
thought they had no chance. They won the last two
games and his prediction for Game four in Game five
are much the same. I think he wanted to be wrong.

(01:16):
I do think last night he wanted to be wrong.
I do truthfully, honestly, I absolutely do think he wanted
to be wrong, but he was right, and the Dodgers
hop out to two games to one lead, they take
back home field advantage, and now it forces the Mats

(01:37):
to like poof, you know, it's get what's the old
Yogi bear expression, it's getting late early. Yes, it is,
it's getting late early. What's weird about it is we
make such a gigantic deal of the Dodgers' ridiculous hitting lineup,
and yet here's a team. If you go back to
the Padres series, they've won four out of five, and

(01:58):
in those four wins, thes have allowed exactly zero runs,
zero runs, and they've done it all kinds of different ways.
Right game five, you had Yamamoto give you five good,
strong innings, and then they've done bullpen days and end
up winning it. And I do think that as much

(02:22):
as Jason and so many Dodger fans have been critical
of the Dodgers, the fact is that all of those
resources have been spread throughout the pitching staff, and even
though the starting starters have been depleted or up until
last night, like haven't pitched all that well, you're able

(02:43):
to sprinkle that money around. I was always a proponent
for the entirety of my adult life of hey, why
pay one guy fifty when you're better off paying five
guys ten, especially in pitching. And if you look at
their bullpen, that's a little bit about of what they've

(03:04):
end up doing. And those hard scrabble three hundred million
dollars payroll mets somehow don't appear to have the juice
to pull this thing off. But it's only two games.
One you win a game and suddenly it's a whole
new series again. But this is good for baseball. It's
really really good for baseball. Dodgers Yankees is good for baseball.

(03:27):
Much like Caitlin Clark still playing for the WNBA. I
mean Sabrina Yonescu, who's tremendous and oh yeah, by the way,
has I believe the number one selling shoe in America?
Now part of it is Nike. They've created a great shoe.
But I think those actually were supposed to be the Kobe's, right,
and Sabrina and the late great Kobe Bryant were close,

(03:49):
and so basically the Kobe's became the Sabrinas. But Sabrina
hits a logo jump shot and nobody cares or pays attention.
And if it was Kaitlin Clark, we'd be going crazy today,
the same thing I believe for baseball. Like many of you,
I don't recall anything about last year's World Series, and

(04:11):
I don't know if this year's World Series will resonate
with me if it's Yankees Dodgers, but I'll damn sure watch,
and so will more of my friends. And I think, look,
the product is actually really good. Everything you can say
about the NFL, and people on the show continue to

(04:32):
say the NFL's product isn't that good. I think Baseball's
product is actually way better than it's been. The game
moves much quicker. The three hitter rule makes sense the
DH and it makes for do I miss the old
days of the double switch and Nation League Baseball? Course okay,
but it does bring another bat to the plate, even

(04:54):
in the first time around the order. The product is
actually way better. But no one, and when I say
no one, far fewer have watched the most important part
of the product. You know, fewer people watch the All
Star Game, that's the celebration sport, and fewer people have
watched World Series in recent years than ever before. Now

(05:17):
it doesn't have to be done in any illicit terms.
There doesn't have to be anything nefarious at stake. No
one has to make it happen because look, at the
end of the day, both these teams have remarkable rosters.
They've loaded up their bullpens, they have huge hitters, they
got home field advantage, and again, it could still be
Mets Yankees. It could still be you know, Mets Guardians.

(05:40):
There is by no means am I saying those series
are over. But all of the growth of baseball, all
the improvement of baseball, the pace of the game is better,
The talent in the game is outstanding. There's a lot
of young, outstanding talent. None of it matters if people
aren't paying attention. People don't watch outside of the traditional

(06:01):
hardcore baseball fans wh will watch no matter what's on.
We're getting close to that World series that not just
Fox Sports, major League baseball, baseball in general needs and
last night was a good thing unless you're a Met fan.
All right, Jacetu, how are you feeling today?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I feel great. I feel great. You know, I think
it's important to take the listeners back because you know,
you caught me you caught me in a moment of optimism.
We had thirty seconds left on the show yesterday and
you said to me, how do I feel about tonight's game?
And I think I said something like this tonight it's

(06:40):
going to be Walker Buwer delivers for Dodgers and show
Hey Otani wakes up in the LCS. Doug Not only
did he wake up, but he's in the middle of
one of the most incredible and odd statistical achievements. I

(07:02):
did a little bit of research. He hasn't gotten any
hits with no one on. He's over for without anyone on,
and that's in excess of like fifteen at bats. It's stupid.
But going back to his last nineteen at bats with
runners on base, this includes the latter part of the
regular season, he's sixteen for nineteen with runners on base.
That just doesn't make any sense. In this postseason, he's

(07:26):
four for five with a home run and a pair
of walks with runners in scoring positions, six for eight
when they're runners on base. It doesn't make any sense
at all, because the eye test is that Shohey has
kind of been struggling this this postseason with runners on base.
He has, but those numbers are just they're stupid. It
makes no sense. And I'm proud of Walker Bueller and

(07:48):
I'm very happy and I feel very confident about this series.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Wait wait, wait wait, you said with runners on base,
he has struggled.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
No with runners, with no one on base, he's old.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, So I mean that's it tells a pretty pretty
obvious story, right, I mean the story that he tells
is that if he has something decent to hit, he's unbelievable.
And when there's nobody on base, they truthfully want to
walk him, and he's still trying to trying to you know,
they're they're pitching a place story like if we walk them,

(08:22):
we walk them. But when you have to pitch to him,
he's basically a guy who you can't get out.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
And that's what's been missing this entire Andrew Friedman rain
for the last ten to twelve.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Anybody's rain misses a guy who can't.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Catch postseason clutch.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, but listen, and and this doesn't put all of
it off on his teammates. Some of it is him,
but the fact is that that's on his teammates. Get
on base and he'll knock you in. He'll knock you in.
I just I have been like look like anybody, I
went through years where I was down on baseball, but
the last couple of years, specifically the last two years

(09:02):
since the rule changes, it's been far better. You have
a guy that's a fifty to fifty guy, the best
player in the history of the sport, and oh yeah,
by the way, he's not even pitching this year. You'll
get to pitched next year. And the chance to have
Aaron Judge and the New York Yankees on the other
side like this is it's a chance for a rebirth

(09:22):
of the sport. Now, at the end of the day,
you'll have the same problem that the WNBA has with
Caitlin Clark that college football has had, you know, in
terms of it being a regional sport, where yes, Yankees
Dodgers will be a great draw, but then we go
back to our usual regional coverage during next year's regular season.
It doesn't matter though. The sport so desperately needs that,

(09:45):
because every year it feels like it just chips away
at America's pastime to where it feels like a past time.
Another home run from Key k Hernandez, here's keyk after
the game.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Myself in a position since I was a little kid,
thinking that I was playing October baseball when the games
were important for me as a kid. And you can
have one off, one bad postseason, and then not go
back to the postseason in a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
And I've been blessed with this is like.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
My ninth postseason already, and I don't think I'll be
I've had the numbers that I that I have if
it wasn't for how much experience I have and as
much as I've been in the postseason, he.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I mean obviously super comfortable. And then again, part of
it is because of the other bigger name hitters in
the lineup. Those guys are seeing more fastballs than they
got to hit him. But kick k a Hearnandez has
taken on that guy. And we all know guys in
every sport who like you don't pay attention to ever
you forget. You're like, oh yeah, kick Hearnana still plays
for them. He's back playing for them, and you're like,

(10:46):
that guy's awesome in the playoffs, really awesome in the playoffs.
Buyer is a season over. I mean that series is
the series over. I apologize series over.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
For the Mets.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
No, baseball's weird that way. They're not a lot of
momentum from one game to the next. But I do
think that the Dodgers having a really good starter on
the hill for Game four, that kids should give them
a ton of confidence.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I mean, take a look at their just their last
the last four games that they've played in this postseason.
Three of those games they have fired blanks. I'm sorry,
I mean that's the wrong analogy. They have shut out
the other team for three games, and then there was
just like kind of like reset Game two of this
LCS where they kind of threw out their subpar pitchers

(11:43):
and almost gave the Mets a game. It's almost like
they conceded to reset the staff for the rest of
the series. But what they're, what they're they've been able
to do in the last four games. You just don't
see three shutouts in four games any more. It just doesn't.
You don't see that. It's it's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, it is. It's it is pretty remarkable. I Mean,
the shutouts are incredible in post's baseball, especially considering the
lineup that they're facing, Like those are no those guys
are no joke over there no joke the hard scrabble
mets that what's their payroll? Like three million dollars? Three
hundred million dollars. We'll point out that the Dodgers payroll

(12:26):
is way higher than it looks like on paper because
seventy million a year essentially gets deferred, right, Like, let's
kind of call it like it is.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
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on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Stug got Leab Show, Fox Sports Radio. I thought this
was funny. This is Drew Brees tonight. Of course, Drew
Brees is going to be inducted into these Saints Hall
of Fame. Here's Drew Brees. He just wants to do
a simple cheer at halftime.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Drew Brees Here, We've been able to experience some incredible
things together in the Superdome over the last eighteen years.
But Thursday game Day against the Broncos, at halftime, we're
gonna do something that's never been done before. We are
going to break out a chant that I know all
of you know, but we are gonna do it as

(13:18):
one in the Dome together. It's going to go like this.
I'm gonna grab that microphone. I'm gonna look around and
I'm just gonna say one. You say two win or
you three? Four win some more?

Speaker 8 (13:36):
Five six win for kicks, seven eight win, it's great,
nine ten win again, win again, win again, when again?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
You know what time it is?

Speaker 5 (13:55):
It's time to get a new cheer, is what I think.
That's the time, Doug.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think the kids say, so what they say, guys.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
I thought there would be no math.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Wait did he said he one? Or three? I came here,
stop talking, bruise talking the one and then two and
then three?

Speaker 6 (14:20):
Four?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I thought it was off the floor. Five six was
pickup sticks.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
The Minnesota Vikings do their skull chant, which is relatively
new and it works really well. You know why, because
it's one word. It's one syllable. This has multiple lines,
back and forth, participation, remembering, and the speed and the
cadence changes. This is gonna be a debacle. I hope

(14:49):
they don't cut away at halftime because it's just going
to be a rumbling mess.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Uh well, I don't think they'll cut away at half time.
It's on Amazon, right, so they need to go to ads,
so they'll they'll show this thing. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Here on Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having a
great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live from the
Tirek dot Com studios and joining us on behalf of
BED online is none other than Danny Knell, of course,

(15:16):
former start at Florida State and NFL starting quarterback, as
well longtime football analyst and talk show host. And we
start with a general agreement. I agree to not ask
you about Florida State. You agree not asked me at
Oklahoma State.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
We did.

Speaker 9 (15:28):
We good. That sounds like a perfect deal because the
season has not been kind to either one of us.
Although you guys at least had a nice win against Arkansas, Like,
you guys at least had some enjoyment. I didn't get
anything like I got one win over Cow that was ugly,
Like at least you guys had that.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, but I don't know how many wins are out
there the rest of the year. That's that's the part.
But well, let's again, let's not dwell, we made an agreement.
Let's move on. What surprised Florida didn't go for two? Right?
Why you're playing Tennessee, you're on the road end of
the game. Go for two?

Speaker 9 (16:02):
Right, absolutely, And unfortunately, I think for Billy Napier it
might be a decision that ultimately ends up to be
his demise, right, I mean he was already on the
hot seat. Like that's what kind of comes back to
driving me nuts, Like what do you have to lose
your Florida? Your season has not been the way you're
supposed to. You were a heavy underdog, as you mentioned,

(16:22):
you're on the road like you're playing, and so also
when you're that underdog, like you're the less talented team
like that has made more mistakes throughout the season and
then you're going to play extended time with more plays.
Why not just make it one play where you can
dictate the outcome, go up, dial up your best play,
and go for the win. I totally agree with you,

(16:44):
And I'll actually say something else because Purdue did it
against Illinois. They tried and ended up coming up short
and losing. But I actually come away feeling more respect
for Ryan Walters and him actually trying to do it
again a place where they're in the game. Illinois was
much better team. He goes for two, comes up short.
But you know what, I'd rather leave it all out

(17:04):
there and try it on one play than try to
take it to overtime and extended time and more periods
and more plays when the better team is probably gonna
win when you give him that opportunity.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of the one and only Danny Knell who joins us.
It looks like they've closed up that loophole. But the
organ play kind of genius, wasn't it.

Speaker 9 (17:30):
It really was? And you know, there was a lot
of debate early, Like I'm talking immediate aftermath because Warren Sharp,
you know, he's a great football follow on X He's
always breaking down stuff. He almost within an hour after
the game was like, look at this genius. And I
got to admit Doug. At first I was like, there's
no way, Like, there's no way he thought of this.

(17:51):
But then we also we've heard from Dan Lanning. But
then if you think about the situation, the fact that
he had it was coming out of a timeout. So like,
if there's ever a time where you would not you'd
have things buttoned up, you've got your right personnel out there,
your personal group, your personnel groupings, it would be after
a time out, and that's what Dan Lanning actually alluded
to when he was asked about this, he said, yeah,
we discussed this in the time out. It is the

(18:14):
difference in like being a great coach and being a
good coach. And I think Dan Lanning is a great coach.
He's one of the more innovative, cutting edge minds as
far as the analytical approach and when to go forward
on fourth down. He's always been aggressive and if you
remember last year against Washington, he got burned on it,
and a lot of people were criticizing him for his

(18:37):
aggressive tactics and for using those the data and when
to go for it and saying, oh, you got to
take those points there, and it cost them a game.
So I was really happy for him to kind of
be able to showcase that, you know what, It's sort
of like being at the blackjack table when you look
at analytics. You know, some people don't feel comfortable hitting
on sixteen if the dealer has two faces, you know,
twenty showing, but you kind of have to. And sometimes

(18:58):
you might bust out and be like, oh, I wish
I wouldn't have done that, but you kind of have
to because the more times you do it, the more
times they will work in your favor. So I was
really happy for Dan Lanning. He is a phenomenal coach,
he's still young. Oregon locked him up because I do
think he was about you know, could have gone to Alabama,
could have had any other job out there, and Oregon
locked him up with a massive payday that I think

(19:20):
was well worth it. I think you're starting to see
the dividends of that.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Payoff, no question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let me ask you about Georgia
Texas this week. What are your thoughts on the matchup
against the Horns for the.

Speaker 9 (19:37):
Dogs, I think I actually think it's a pretty good
matchup if they can protect Carson Beck. I think Texas
is one weakness on the defensive side of the ball,
because they have a really good front seven is the secondary.
I do think they're gettable and they haven't exactly gone
against a gauntlet of quarterbacks who strike a lot of
fear in you. And that includes two of our big

(19:59):
signature wins. Right when they played Michigan on the road.
That looks like an awesome win, and it was. It
shouldn't take away from it, but the quarterback they faced
Davis Warren really struggled. He's not you know. That was
two quarterbacks go for Michigan. They've since benched him. He
finishes out the year before he gets benched two touchdowns,
six interceptions, and then against Oklahoma they were able to

(20:20):
completely shut down Oklahoma's offense, but Oklahoma was without five
wide receivers and a quarterback making his second start in
Michael Hawkins Junior. So I think this will be Texas's
biggest matchup yet for their secondary to have to stop.
And I do look at these quarterbacks, both of them
Doug and they're both probably buying potentially for who is
the first quarterback off the board. Chadior Sanders might have

(20:42):
something to say about that as well. But if these
quarterbacks shine in this moment, it might come down to
who plays better in this game. And trust me, we
might see it again in the SEC Championship game. So
it might not be finished, but I do think this
could put one guy ahead. As far as the NFL
scouts think, I think it's going to be awesome. I
do say think there's value on Georgia. I feel like

(21:02):
people are kind of down on Georgia. They didn't look
great in the first half against Alabama. Last week they
gave up thirty one points the Mississippi State, who's not
very good, you know, and so everyone's kind of down
on Georgia and everybody's great on Texas, like, look how
great they are. They're number one, and they look awesome
and they've done everything they needed to do. But also
just knowing experience wise, when this happens, I think the

(21:24):
value is on the underdog here. Five points is a
lot for texastacks them to win by a touchdown or more.
I think you could see a very similar game to
what we saw Oregon Ohio State, two heavyweights going toe
to toe that comes down to the wire to a
field goal. So I actually think the value is on Georgia.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Okay, now let's let's go to Alabama taking on Tennessee.
What's going on with Alabama? Right, looks so good in
the first half against Georgia and then hold on for
dear life and then lose, lose to Andy and they
need a lot to beat South Carolina.

Speaker 9 (21:59):
It's going on interesting, Isn't it crazy? How quickly you
know you can go from the penthouse to the outhouse.
You know, that feels like what's happened to Kaylen de
Boor the head coach of Bamba, Because when they beat Georgia,
and I know they blew the lead and they almost
you know, lost the game. When they beat Georgia, Jalen
Molroe is the Heisan Trophy favorite. Ryan Williams was the best,

(22:20):
you know, true freshman we've ever seen in history, and
he might be. And Kaylen de Bor was like, they're
going to be the next Nick Saban, Like how many
titles are you going to win? And here we are
just a few weeks removed, and all how quickly the
conversation has changed. Now we're worried about what Kaylen de
Bor is wearing on the sideline. Now it's you know,
the defense has massive holes and all of a sudden
there's all this heat and pressure on Kayln de Boor.

(22:41):
I think this is kind of normal. I think what
you're seeing is a program that wasn't as talent rich
even last year with Nick Saban. It was an unbelievable
coaching job that Saban did last year getting them to
the playoffs, but they weren't as dominant as they had
been maybe four or five years previous prior to nil
and the portal, So now all of a sudden, there's
a little bit closer talent. Then on the defensive side

(23:03):
of the ball. That's where I do think there's a
weakness in the coaching. Caine Walmock takes over. He's still
a younger coach who's still kind of figuring out things.
He's you know, calling these defenses, and I think they've
struggled to adjust in game. And one of the things
that you know that it has been noticeable is their
lack of really adjusting in games. So the opposing offenses

(23:25):
are figuring out what they're running and then they're exploiting it,
and they're not making those necessary adjustments, either with substitutions
or with different coverages, and they've got to be quicker
in that sense. But the good news for Bama's secondary
and they're for their defense, is they're facing Tennessee, who
is typically a high powered offense who's throwing it all
over the place. They've been struggling to put up points themselves.

(23:45):
So I think that's the matchup that determines the outcome
of the game, is Tennessee's offense versus Alabama's secondary. Who
wins that battle, Like who fixes their issues first will
probably determine the outcome.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's s Doug Gotlig Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I do want to circle back to the organ Ohio
State game. Ryan Day was a hand chosen successor right
of Urban Meyer, but he has struggled against some of
the top ranked teams. They've played how long you know, look,
a close game, very good football game, but how long
do we think the leash is for Ryan Day? After

(24:19):
a lot of people were upset over low last year,
finished losing once again to Michigan.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
It's so interesting because I think it's a real you
know this better than anybody like. And there's more parody,
I believe, than there's ever been before in college football.
So now coaching becomes that much more of a premium.
Previously five years ago was all about recruiting, like who
was the best recruiters, who could have massed the best talent? Right?
I mean, that was what really gave you the edge

(24:44):
because you could every time Ohio State has taken the field,
really in most of the games in Ryan Day's tenure,
they've had superior talent ten games out of twelve, eleven
games out of twelve, And then you look at some
of those closer games, when all of a sudden you're
facing the team on the other who has the exact
same talent or maybe you know slightly better. But that's
when coaching starts to matter that much more. Look how

(25:07):
they've done. They've in Georgia in the playoffs. They come
up just short. Oregon, they come up just short. Michigan
last couple of years, they come up short. So those games,
and I know, you look at the overall record, it's like, well,
you're sixty one to nine. You haven't lost that many games.
How could this guy potentially be considered anything less than
the coach of the next ten years. This is where
I do think coaching matters. And we look at the

(25:28):
decision we were talking about Dan Lanning like that was genius.
This is where I do think Ryan Day needs to
step up and make some better coaching decisions. I think
it was genius to bring in Chip Kelly and bring
in that sort of mind that comes in, and I
think the offense has clicked for that reason. But it's
those these little, tiny situational decisions that are magnified that
much more. And it hasn't been exactly something that gets

(25:51):
Ohio State fans excited, so I think, look, he's not
getting fired anytime soon because he is having so much success.
But they still have Penn State on the road, which
they'll be favored, they probably should win. They're playing Indiana,
who all of a sudden looks a lot better. They're
looking at Michigan, who's having a down year. Like that
to me is the most pressure packed game, and it
doesn't matter if it probably makes it more pressure packed.

(26:13):
If Michigan is like six and six or seven and five,
then you talk about a must win game. I think
Ryan Day needs to make a deep playoff run and potentially,
you know, to the National Championship game. I don't think
he has to win it, but I think he has
to win some meaningful games in order to quiet some
of his critics. I think he will because there is
so much talent on that roster and look how close

(26:34):
they were against Oregon. But if he doesn't, then I
think next year he comes in on the proverbial hot seat,
so to speak, which is crazy, but it's just the
landscape of college football and knowing college football fan.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Bases awesome stuff. Danny Knell. Of course, you can hear
Danny on Sirius Sex Sam. You can see him on
CBS Sports and who he joins some half of bet online. Danny,
you're the best man. Really appreciate you joining us always.

Speaker 9 (26:59):
Doug, he catch it out man to join the games.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Thank you so much. Let's go to Dan Barr. We
have breaking news in the world of college basketball.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
On the eve of a brand new season, Tony Bennett
is retiring as the men's basketball coach at Virginia. Spent
fifteen years at the school. An official announcement is expected
to take place in Charlottesville late tomorrow morning. Again, Tony
Bennett retiring as the men's basketball coach at Virginia.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
And interesting, obviously, I occupy the seat where his dad sat.
His dad, Dick, of course, legendary head coach at Green Bay,
at Wisconsin, at Washington State. He's supposed to join us Monday.
We have a big event, and he told me he
was going to come to town and he was headed
to Charlottesville afterwards. So obviously this strikes a surprised Now.

(27:51):
I know what people will say. They'll say, WHOA he
retired twenty days for the start of the season. Something
must be up. There have been a lot of and
again this is not me reporting because I haven't talked
to Tony about it. I just got a text from
him when I got the job and got just let
him be. But a lot of reports that Tony just
didn't love, didn't love where college basketball was going right

(28:17):
when coaches want their guy to get the job. And
we saw this with Dean Smith, we saw it with
Roy Williams. We've seen it with lots of coaches where
they retire right before the season so there is no
time for a national search. And you know he has
two associate head coaches. One is Ron Sanchez, Ron was

(28:39):
fired at Charlotte a year ago, really good coach, and
Jason Woolford, who's another associated coach, a long time assistant
under under Tony Bennett. My guess would be that he
would do it in an effort to get one of
his guys the job.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
But Doug, there's precedents with his dad, Dick. Dick retired
early in citing burnout in Wisconsin in two thousand and one,
so I mean, pretty interesting Wisconsin bo Ryan did it
for Greg Gard too, Yeah, but amazing. I think it's burnout.

(29:21):
I think it's more burnout than to what you're saying
at the beginning, when you're like, yeah, maybe this college
basketball isn't what it was before.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, but I think it's burnout over how college basketball is.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, you know, I agree.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, And and people say well, like well for you,
well for me, like it's a dream job, Like I
got this is I might have been burnout of my
old of doing it, the old way of doing you know,
travel around the country doing college games, so it's something
new for me. But look, this is there is one
piece of it which we try and pay attention to,

(30:00):
but especially at the highest level, it does get lost
is the education piece. Is this it's professional basketball, professional
football for many of these guys, and constantly having to
recruit your own team, let alone another team, and not
having guys grow and evolve like that whole thing is
if you've been doing it one way for twenty five

(30:23):
years and been crazy successful, and I'm like, yeah, you
gotta do it a different way, you know. Yeah. By
the way, if somebody doesn't like it, they can just
up and leave. Yeah, I get it, I understand. I understand.
If I get information, of course I share it with you.
But I'm just bumped. He's a great human being, like

(30:43):
one of the few guys you can go like, yeah,
he's a better guy than me.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
You know what's interesting too, is you named some of
the assistants. Brad Soderberg, who was the one that took
over for Dick Matt when he's left when Bennett retired
from Wisconsin. Soderberg is on that staff of Tony Bennett.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, and Brad is a phenomenal coach. Phenom a coach
who the best part Brad's thing was they thought he
was too boring, Like, yeah, I don't think you know,
he was successful, not boring.

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Speaker 1 (31:20):
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(31:42):
talk about Florida State football, right, We'll not talk about
Florida State football or Oklahoma State football. That's my deal
with Danny. Don't talk about my own monor I won't
talk about yours. We'll just pretend like these disastrous seasons
don't occur. But you know what will occur. Every Thursday
we give the reins to unfortunately Jason Stewart who throws
it back for us. Jayse do don't call it a

(32:05):
throwback throw back Thursday.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Doug, Tonight, the Broncos are going to New Orleans to
play the Saints. It is Sean Payton's return to New Orleans. Now,
the Saints and Broncos have not played each other much
over the years, so I guess the stat isn't that impressive.
But the Broncos have never lost in New Orleans. They've
never lost, which is interesting. And it takes a little

(32:32):
bit of searching to find any notable games in the history,
but I found one. Doug. Let's go back eight years.
Just think of how crazy November of twenty sixteen was.
Think about who was elected president in the November of
twenty sixteen, and then think about nine days later. You

(32:56):
fired nine days later when the Broncos were at the
Saints and it was a humdinger, Doug, it was a humdinger.
Holy Broncos won twenty five to twenty three. Neither team
were that good that year. Uh, Trevor Simeon. Simeon had

(33:16):
a good night. He led the Broncos over the over
drew Breeses Saints. I think the Broncos finished two games
under five hundred, Saints finished two games over, so that
wasn't significant. But the way the year played out, that
was Matt Ryan's MVP season. Matt Ryan led his Falcons
to the Patriots eventually, and the Patriots would win, coming
back from twenty seven to three. The rest is history.

(33:39):
But when we think about twenty sixteen, and as I
alluded to, election year, just a crazy year, and the
Broncos beat the Saints on that night, what else comes
to mind?

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Dan Bayer, The twenty sixteen season was the season of
one Matt Ryan, and it's really the only case that
you can make for him to be a Pro Football
Hall of Famer. The Falcons just I don't know if
it was lightning in a bottle if it was Kyle Shanahan.
But the Falcons season that year of them not being

(34:11):
the Falcons of old, and honestly, even after that season
now that we look back, it was just a different
Falcons team that year, and it was because they had
good teams in the past. We had seen a couple
of years prior they were pretty good at home field advantage,
but this one they were just boat raising everybody and
did throw out the playoffs. But yeah, the Falcons in

(34:34):
twenty sixteen stood out to me in the National Football.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
It's interesting because you whenever there, it's like a mandatory
thing nowadays that when a team goes to the Super
Bowl and loses, talk radio and debate shows and everything
the next day always say that the losing team will
be back.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Oh yeah, it's so young and sad and outside of
outside of the Patriots and once upon down the Chiefs,
they're never back.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
They're never back. So the Falcons were a great example
of that, and they had some heartbreak earlier.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
They lost four years earlier to the Niners in the
NFC Championship game. Remember there's Tony Gonzalez. He finally won
a playoff game. And they beat Seattle, but then they
lost in the Niners. And this one is just like
all right, Seattle kicked them out the door, all right, Packers,
see you later, and then uh then we know what happened.

Speaker 9 (35:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
But that season they were just really really good. Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
That was also the year that the Cubs won the
World Series, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
No, they were going to come back from r too,
because they were so young and so dynamic that they
were going to go back and they were gonna started.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
That was the classic start of a dynasty.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Talk that was it?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
That was it won and done.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Remember they almost lost in that World Series? Like that
was I was hoping for that to happen.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
You say they were the Indians or they're the former Guardians.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
No, we canna say they were the Indians. They were
actually they were Actually.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Yeah, what a season I mean geez I mentioned it
in the uh I feel a Draft, the Calves knocking
off the Warriors in that twenty sixteen campaign, Like what
a year for championships.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
That was the year of the Rundown Block.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yes, Chase down Black Camp.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Wow, what a year. I'm sorry, Chase down that was called.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
That was also the year that Chris Jenkins hit the
jump shot to win the NCAA Championship.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
This show is going full circle. This is amazing.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Oh you had all kinds of stuff that year. What
about music, Chase dou.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
It's funny you ask Doug because I don't know about
you guys, but this was an earworm for most of
twenty sixteen. For me, it goes something like.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
This, go serve me? And so did you guys know
why I hung one night? When I hung out? I
think it was the next Final four. The next year
was in Arizona. It was with Aaron Rodgers and these guys.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah? It was like one of those weird like wo'd
you tonight? It was me and my buddy. Who is it? Uh? Stanton? Uh?
That was Shane Stanton. Shout out to Shane. He's working
too hard. But Shane and I.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Would, I hope because you forgot his name for about
ten seconds. Doug, No, I I.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Know, I like all their boys. Yeah, well like Reeds
a giant. He's like six to two and anyway, so, uh,
Shane Stanton and I we I go, Shane, I'm doing
this thing for Coca Cola. And I said, I think
Aaron Rodgers, we might hang out with him. I'm in
so then all of a sudden, Aaron's like, hey, uh,

(37:53):
do you want to hang out with the chainsmokers? I
was like yeah, And next thing I know, we're going
bar hopping and stale with Aaron Rodgers, the chain Smokers,
and me and my buddy Shane.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Now I don't want to hang out with chain smokers,
but I would like to hang out with the chain smoker.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
The chain Smokers.

Speaker 10 (38:13):
Yeah, that that name runs rubs me the wrong way
a little bit. It's just yeah, chain smoking, you just
smell bad. You're bringing on death prematurely. I just don't care.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
If you did a chain smoker's tribute band, would it
be secondhand smoke? Would that?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Would that be the Ah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
No, as you were not listening to the chain Smokers.
In twenty sixteen, what do you remember most Well, definitely
remember Hillary versus Trump.

Speaker 10 (38:42):
But I'll give you a little snippet of this year
and Hawkeye football history.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
I was started the year getting upset. What No, don't
know what.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
I'm sorry, Yeah, go ahead, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
No, No, this is this is good, good and bad.
So it's good. No, it's all bad, but no, it's not.
You haven't even to let me talk.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 10 (39:01):
So they got upset at home by North Dakota State.
Later in the year, though, they would upset undefeated number
three Michigan at home fourteen to thirteen in a wild game.
And that's your snippet it Hawkeye football history twenty sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I'd liked rogue one. That was twenty sixteen. I could
be your loan. I liked Rogue one a lot.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
So that was also a year that was pretty controversial
for the College Football Playoff, I know because Ohio State
was involved in it, and they ended up getting crushed
by Clemson. But their only loss was on the road
to a Penn State team where Urban Meyer and the
Buck guys elected to kick what was like a forty
five yard field goal. Really wasn't one of their strengths.

(39:42):
Tough stadium to kick October, not the greatest effort, and
it ended up getting blocked in return for a touchdown,
but they lost by three to Penn State. Was their
only loss at the time entering what was then the playoff,
and Penn State had a couple of losses, but they
had that win against Ohio State and ended up representing
the Big Ten in the championship game that year for

(40:04):
the Big Ten, but Ohio State ended up making the
playoff that year because of the early losses that Penn
State had.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Who were the final four?

Speaker 5 (40:14):
That was Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State in Washington.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
A lot of the usual suspects.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yes, you guys want to know what happened in golf
that year unless you had any sure So what was
unique about that season was the twenty sixteen Open Championship
was probably the standout event because of the showdown that
you had with Phil Mickelson and Henrik Stenson just pulling

(40:42):
away at Royal Troon and it was basically match play
for the final final eighteen holes of that championship. I
did have to look up the ending spread. Stenson finished
at twenty under part of win pulled away after a
final round six. Mickelson shot seventeen under paw for the championship.

(41:04):
Third place was JB. Holmes, he shot six under. He
was eleven shots back of Mickelson. So when you think
of Phil Mickelson's career and do you think of all
the near misses that he had at US Opens and
what could have been. This is another he was eleven
shots clear of third place. He just happened to be
playing in the same tournament that Henrik Stenson was playing

(41:26):
that week, and Stenson was just as out of his
mind as Mickelson was. But that that was the big
news in golf. And also that year it was an
Olympic year. Yeah that Justin Rose won the Golden Golf
but because of the Olympics, the PGA Championship had to
be moved up because of the conflict, so they played

(41:47):
it just like a week or so after the Open Championship.
Wasn't back to back weeks, there was a week separating.
Jimmy Walker ended up winning at Baltus role that year.
He was dynamite, but it was kind of lost in
the shuffle. And then kind of what fueled the PGA
Championship or help fuel the PGA Championship moving to the spring,

(42:08):
because now with golf in the Olympics every four years,
you were likely to have a conflict either with the
Open Championship or with the PGA. The PGA ended up
moving out and moving to May. But that was in
twenty sixteen. Danny Willett won the Masters Dustin Johnson ended
up winning the US Open that year. But that's your
year in golf. You know who's a good golfer. Ryan Gosling.

(42:34):
Ryan Gostling starred in the Movie of the Year musical
La La Land about this city that we live in.
Emma Stone never seen it, never saw it. No, it's
pretty good, not bad. And if you remember, right, if
you flash forward to the oscars of this movie year,
Wa La Land was spoken spoken to win the Best

(42:58):
Picture and then remember they gave them the wrong card
to read horn Baty and it was actually Moon White.
Moon White won the year a movie that nobody saw.
So La La Land a lot of people saw, and
the Moon White nobody saw. So that was that was
a part of that movie year. Do you guys remember
Stranger Things started twenty sixteen?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
To Bin, I didn't know what it was that long ago.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
I know it's I like watched it.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm going to say, like I watched it last year
or the year before, and I was I don't like
scary things, and that scared me. But I found a
way to hold my own hand and make it through.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
If you think about it, I think they're starting their
final season. They're going to release it here maybe in
the early twenty twenty five, and it's been what six seasons,
But you're right, it doesn't seem that far back, especially
since all the main cast members were like twelve and
thirteen years old, so they've had to grow on the

(43:55):
on the show, which is crazy. But yeah, twenty sixteen
happened that year. It's just amazing just going back and
checking all this out. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
It is crazy also true, and that is don't call
it a throwback.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Don't call it a throwback.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
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