October 18, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug talks about the exciting baseball the was played Thursday night in the ALCS and NLCS. Doug gives his take on the Broncos-Saints game. Doug welcomes former NFL team exec Mark Dominik for his weekly hit to discuss the Saints, Cowboys and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I Got Dibbs!".
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You're too kind. Almost the perfect night in baseball. I'm
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big on this, you know. And I'm not as big
on New York baseball as Big Apple Sam is, nor
am I huge dot your fan the way that Jason
Stewart is. I just know that baseball actually talent wise
and quality of play wise, converse to I think the NFL.
(01:11):
And Jason, you tell me if I'm wrong. Here we've talked,
and we talk. We'll talk in the podcast about as well.
On you talk about you call it Zoropa like the
Zoropa albums Zopa Tour, where the NFL is kind of
living on reputation. The product isn't that good. I actually
think Major League Baseball's product is outstanding, but the reputation isn't.
It has a reputation of being boring in stale and
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nondescript teams winning it is that fair?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Do you think the product is actually really good?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
The product of baseball?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think the product the actual talent in the game.
I think there's there's never been more talent in the game. Sure,
But the antics of the players and the way they
choose to play the game and some of the rule
changes pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But no, I think the rule changes. But look the
rule changes that brought athleticism back to the sport. There's
more balls in play. Remember, if you go back before
the rule changes, more than sixty six percent, more than
two thirds of the time, a pitch would only be
touched by potentially only three people involved pitcher, catcher and hitter. Right,
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it was either strikeout, walk, or home run. And the
rule changes have made, you know, playing small ball a
little bit kind of back in vogue and not having
the shift and having the universal DH, all of these things,
it's been good. I think the sports actually play wise
and talent wise in a good place. I know you
don't like the antics. Everybody has a celebration when they
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get a single. You know, it can be an error
and they still do something, you know, some sort of
gyration to their to their dugout. We can talk about
that later day. The point is that baseball talent wise,
baseball skill wise, baseball execution wise in a good place.
But it needs Dodge's Yankees for mainstream people to pay
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attention to it, much the way the WNBA is better
than it has ever been. But they need Caitlin Clark
to play as much as possible for me to people
to actually pay attention to him. And then, of course
you got the Yankees. Oi. Yeah, YOI what a way
to lose a game if you're the Yankees. These are
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games that the Yankees traditionally always seem to win, right,
always seem to win. And yet the improbable happens when
the Yankees bullpen absolutely blows it. Right, suppose between Luke
Weaver and Clay Holmes, just one after the next did
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not look comfortable, and neither did Tommy us. What's the
guy's name, Tommy? Shoot the guy? He walked a couple
of guys when he first came in. Just too many walks.
I mean, I was by the story of last night
was the walks of the Dodgers and the walks by
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the Yankees of the Guardians. But that was one where
I'm watching the game and you know, it's four to
three and then five to three. I think, what wasn't
five to three heading into the bottom of the ninth,
And then this happened in the.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Deep time.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Cleveland, John Jensen, Nowell, John Kenson, Noel nicknames Big Christmas
two outs, Bob of the ninth. And I have a
I have a coach who coaches with me. His name
is Jordan McCabe. Jordan mcabe is if you ever know
the site ball is life like. He was the first
ever player. He is Zion Williamson and Jordan McCabe were
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the first ball as life guys. And he started when
I first got here. May hated baseball. Took to a
Brewer game. We had a couple of beers. He's like,
you know what, not bad? So I mandated that he
watched playoff baseball last night and he was like, did
you watch that Yankee game? That was unbelievable. I thought
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the game was over. And the thing about baseball is
there is no time limit. It's not over to you
get that twenty seventh out, and that was with twenty
six outs. Here's David Fry with a runner on second,
score tiede in the tenth swing, hit.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
High, hit deep left.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Segus.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Too run, home run to the play cherson left by
David Fried.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Who is that with the Who is that what they call?
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Dan Tom Hamilton on the call.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
My favorite thing about that home run on the tenth
inning off of the bat of David Fry is because
of the way Jacob's field we'll call it is situated,
and you have that enormous scoreboard in left. He's a
right handed hitter, pulls a shot to left field, and
as the ball is traveling over the fence.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
There's this enormance.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, it has this enormous graphic of David Fry. So
it is it is perfect, like because it is his moment,
it is his shot. He poses at the plate, camera
cuts to the ball going over and about I don't know,
forty two percent of your screen when you're watching it
is this huge David Fry graphic because he was at bat.
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It was such an awesome visual aside from it being
a walk off, two run home run that was absolutely crushed,
but also to have the picture of his graphic on
the scoreboard in the background, amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Truly amazing, truly, truly, truly amazing. I just again, I
want Dodgers Yankees World Series, but I do love seeing
the Yankees lose, especially in the Bob of the ninth.
Who doesn't and just the idea that that I hadn't
seen a home run that big since David Freeze in
the World Series in Game six, last strike, Bott of
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the ninth and then of course once again in extra
innings it was David Freeze and that was when Joe
Buck had the tip of the cap to his dad,
we'll see you tomorrow night. Right. That was exciting, Like
I get excited even listening to Tom Hamilton with the call.
That is in fact baseball, Like we joke about baseball
being so you know, the weird thing you can't explain,
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but that is baseball where it's like, all right, this
thing's over Yankees would be about up three games to none,
and then of course the Dodgers are up three games
to one, like these series are winding down and then
all of a sudden, one swing of the bat and
we got extras. One more swing of the bat and
we got ourselves a series.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And Luke Weaver has been so good, i think the
last part of the season and especially in this postseason.
He's been just dominant, and you get the feeling and
you know it's an uphill climb for the Guardians because
they have half the talent thing Inkos do, but you
get the feeling that that was like a blow. That
was a gut punch. We were giving up that tie
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in run with two outs in the night, and we've
seen this happen in baseball. There's precedent for this. You
go back to one moment in time, and that could
have been the series. If the Guardians end up coming back,
I'm going to go back to that big Christmas moment
against Weaver, who had been untouchable for most of the postseason.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
YEP, it is. It is a big one. And we'll
talk about this later on the show, probably talk about
some in the pod, which is like just like when
you blow a save like that, it's really hard. And
those guys are wired differently, right, they've been they tried
out there so much that they blow on. All right,
I gotta come back. But there is you know, there
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is that hangover effect, and I think I think show
hate leading off the NLC. Yes, with the home run,
I thought there was a hangover for the rest of
the game. Dodgers have a lead, Dodgers play with confidence,
Dodgers up one to nothing. It felt like, you know,
they're playing with house money to start the game. But yeah,
how Luke Weaver responds, how that Yankee bullpen responds, Because
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you're not winning anything baseball now without the bullpen, you
gotta be big. But what a what a great night
for baseball. By the way, here's Mookie Betts. Did he
talk about Jason Stewart calling him on Twitter? No, he
talked about the performance without Freddy Freeman. No, this is
the second game we won without Freddy, so maybe Freddie
need to not play anything. There's a little fake media
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laugh right there.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right, that was a little a little over the top.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know, here's Max Muncy saying, you know the cliche,
they're not done yet.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
For us, tomorrow it's a zero zero series. We got
to go out there and take care of business. You know,
we're not thinking about, you know, one more game. We're
thinking about tomorrow's zero zero series. We got to go
out there prepare the right way. You know, game playing
the right way can get our approach going, and you know,
just take care of business and play.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
To Dodger baseball, I totally understand. Okay, I understand that
for the Dodgers, you want to like this just sets
up so well to them, the fact that you're playing
three nights in a row. When you get it again,
remember you get ahead, and I know in baseball it's
hard to have momentum carry over. But when you win,
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you know, two out of the first three and don't
allow a run, then you win the next one and
you know, you score ten runs you only allow too,
and Show Hayes hitting and Mookie Bets is hitting, and
you're like, oh, holy hell, now what and then you
get no time to collect your thoughts. It does feel
like it's over. It does. I'm not like calling it
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when you know the Mets, it's not like the Dodgers
have the world's greatest starting pitching. But man, this series,
if it if it closes up shop tonight that thing.
If you're the Mets, you had to feel like after
Game two this, wait, what happened?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
What what happened? I'll relate it to this. I'm coaching
my first college game tomorrow. Do you guys know that?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
We have a scrimmage, secret scrimmage. And one thing I
do know from having broadcast games and coached high school.
Uh I coached actually one high school game and a
bunch of au and overseas, is the games they can
turn on a dime. Like you get you get a
bad lineup, and all of a sudden, you get in
a bad run and you never recover. And I feel
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like the Mets. I feel like the Mets. You know,
once Mookie got it going show a hits home run.
When you're talking three days in a row, three l's
potentially three l's in row. And now we're out of there, like, wait,
we were just we won Game two. We came bouncing
back to New York. We're at City Field. You know
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this is what we do at LEFG. Let's go Mets,
and it feels like it's over.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
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Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. That's Fox Sports Radio. Bayer,
did you watch the Thursday night game? I know you're
prone to watch football first and football second, football foremost,
plus you have your fantasy podcast. How much of that game?
Did you watch?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
About half of it?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It was a tough one.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It was a hard watch, so hard watch.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Normally, if all the participants were playing, it would have
been worthwhile. But the Saints were so decimated and the
Broncos just aren't a pretty watch offensively that it made
for an awful Thursday night game.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It was a bad one. It was a bad one.
Spencer Rattler, you guys remember him, started Oklahoma, then was
replaced by Caleb Williams, transferred to South Carolina. And you know.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's the stuff that actually annoys me. Are people who
talk themselves into like, hey, this is the answer. This
is our Brock Purty, this is our Tom Brady. I
think Spencer Ratler is going to be the guy. Really,
it's really what we think. Now, maybe he deserves more
of a chance of what he had last night, considering
how short handed they were. Yes, but this is the
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sort of crap that you get and it wasn't all
his fault.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But no, no, But what a weird year for the Saints, right,
And I know injuries are a huge, huge factor, but
to put up forty seven and forty four and then
you think of how they lost that game to the
Eagles and since then, complete and utter house of cards,
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House of cards, they've lost five in a row. They
got the Chargers on the road, who without a healthy
team against the physicality of the Chargers, they win. The
Panthers one of the two teams they've beaten Falcons and
Brown So it's not a crazy hard schedule. But what
leads you to believe after watching last night or give
up fifty one to the Buccaneers, that they can be competitive,
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let alone win.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, that's that is the Other part of the equation
is maybe you look at and you see certain wins
down the road and then you remember that it's the
Saints team that you're talking about. Now. Derek Carr is
expected to do some throwing this weekend, but honestly, for
an organization that really needs a reboot. Alvin Kamari even
talked about it last night, being frustrated and seeing the
fans leave early. There just wasn't any energy, even if
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Drew Brees was going into the Hall of Fame. It
just is a different feel and it feels like apathy
is starting to set in and them ruling off another
eight straight losses may not be the worst thing in
the world long term for them, but man, I likened
it to the Panthers in two thousand and one when
they won their first game and then lost the next
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fifteen in a row, where the Saints could start too
and oh and then who knows, maybe you end up
two in fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh god, they were good those first two weeks. And
I know the Panthers the first game, but they were
really good.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Which was just which was the biggest why of the
first two weeks? The Saints, who, by the way, I
think the Cowboys should feel much worse about themselves right
now for getting their asses kicked by the Saints the
way they did at home, By the way, but what
was the bigger why? The Saints or the Raiders going
into Baltimore on winning. How unusual does that sound given
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the state of the teams.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I actually I was gonna say, I think the Raiders
is more of the fake. The Saints. You can't, sorry,
say what you will about Derek Carr, he's injured. You
don't have chrys O Lave, you don't have Rashid Shaheed.
Those are very big parts of your offense. So last
night could have been understood a little bit, even though
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the Broncos were playing with Alt Patrick's artan the Raiders
coming back and scoring what like thirteen unanswered against the
Ravens to win in that fourth quarter to be as
more of the outlier.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean the Raiders one was a super weird one.
I think that one's the biggest outlier, biggest outlier because
the Raiders legitimately stink. They don't have a quarterback. Now, granted,
at the time they had one of the best defense
players in football, one of the best wide receivers in
football like that it was, and at the time they
still had some hope. But yeah, I would say that's
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the bigger lie than the Saints.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Do we have a follow up on how the Drew
Brees chant went. Yes? Yes, was it as disastrous as
the Saints offense? I did see it last night.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, it wasn't as confusing, but it did not go
off like he said that they were going to lift
the roof off of the Superdome. Roof is still on,
by the way. He just powered through it. He just like,
did it rapid fire? You couldn't decipher what the crowd
was saying. And then he was like, thank you. It
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was pretty much a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It was random.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, it was just again nobody knew what their role was.
One two buckle my shoe. Yeah, I guess, Oh yeah, uh.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Chub, Nick Chubb. Let's get to our good friend. Mark Dominic,
former general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers, join us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Saints just
been decimated by injuries and they're not that good. Broncos
are a hard watch. Any takeaways of note from that
game last night?
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Well, I think the sad part was as much as
you were rooting for Spencer Rattler and what he could
possibly do or what he could possibly be. That was
ruined pretty hard last night in terms of being rattled
and just the sacks and the plays. Uh just you know,
I know it took them in the fifth round. It
is what it is, but it just shows you again, Uh,
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you got to have something that's more viable at quarterback
after your first string guy, because you've got to be
able to be competitive in games. And that game just
wasn't competitive. But I'm sure for coach Payton h that
was a very important game for him to win, even
though he won't admit it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, no, no question about it. Let's get to the Cowboys.
I know they've had a lot of injuries as well,
but how fixable there issues?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I think it's concerning. You know, I've always been a
Cowboy guy, as you know. You know they got to
the two rookies. Not offensive line, but to me, it's
more defensively. It's just it's and yes, Michael Parsons, you
know it's a big, big loss, but they've been through,
like you said, some injury. It just doesn't feel like
the defense is finding its groove and and as comfortable
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under coach Zimmer uh than coach Quinn. And they are
completely different types of coaches. And I think that maybe
the players aren't responding quite the way I thought they would,
and so it's been you know, frustrating and just it
does not look like like we said, Like you said,
it's just not the same team. You know. Obviously they've
got the Marcus Lawrence and Neelan's on ir and Sam
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Williams never even got there, so they've got pieces of
that team. Dron Blamb's not back yet that are all
missing that they eagerly need. But the only thing that
can fix this team right now is what you're talking about,
and that's the magic of health.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's in the meantime. It's it's tough, it's it's really
really tough, Nick Sirianni kind of giving it back to
his own fans. They did win, but it's not like
they were crazy impressive. What's your sense of the Eagles
and whether out their coach can get them on the
right track.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, I mean I think he can. I think he
can get him on the right track. I feel like
he tried to steal something out of Dan Campbell's playbook,
even though Dan Campbell played in the National Football League
and certainly has a little more clout to him in
terms of, you know, being the tough guy. It felt
like Nick was trying to be Joe tough guy and
doesn't have to do that, even though Philly is a
tough town. It was just here's bizarre, and obviously he
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apologized for how he handled himself. I do think there's
still time, but it's a one year thing. Howie Roseveen
showed in the past to be quick to make decisions
of how he's safe there. I think as the general manager, certainly,
but I don't know that Nick is. This team's got
to get it turned around, right. This is not really
the NFC East is at all what I thought it
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would be at this point, and so there's still opportunity
for all these clubs to kind of get themselves back
in order. But the Commanders play the Panthers this weekend
and can move out to five and two with a win.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
How who improved more, the Bills or the Jets with
their wide spride receiver acquisition.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
So I think the Bills did, and the reason why
as much as I like Devanta Adams and yeah, he'll
hopefully be healthy and ready to play. You know, Garrett
Wilson's a legit, no doubt in my mind. Number One,
it was a mistake I think from the previous you
know Nate Hackett, you see Todd Downings forcing the ball
to him, and that's what you got to do. You
have to force your ball to the best players and
let them make a play. I think the Buffalo Bill's
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skier has been very good, but I think they have
him an Amari Cooper to be like a number one
type of guy is going to be a big difference
for the Buffalo offense as well as Josh Allen's playing
rather than Devanta Adams. Are they already having a one
this is going to help him. They've got a crowded
receiver room, which isn't a bad thing, but that doesn't
fix their offensive line. And that's the concern I still
have with the Jets.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The Pittsburgh Steelers appear appear to be poised to start
Russell Wilson. This despite the fact of four and two
on the year Justin Fields has handled it pretty well.
Does it actually make them better to start Russell Wilson?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I think it does. I think that, you know, when
you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers and how they've played
this year, certainly being formed to at this point and
losing two games very by very small margin, the difference is,
you know, Justin Field is really you know, outside of
what one or two games He's talked for hundred something
yards every game, right, one hundred and fifty, one hundred
and forty hundred and thirty, one hundred and ten. He's
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done a good job of not losing the games, and
they're calling the games that way for him. I think
the offense is going to be more explosive in terms
of passing the ball, in terms of getting the ball
out to wide receivers, in terms of I think you
can see thirty two to thirty five attempts and that
kind of stuff. I just think it's going to be
a different game with Russell Wilson. So as good as
you know, JJ has again not had the turnovers, just
the one interception. He's taken quite a few sacks. But
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I think overall this is going to be a better
off now going forward with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
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are a couple of huge games this week, and none
bigger than Niners versus the Chiefs. Niners obviously have struggled
some with all of their injuries, but well, brock perty
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was really good last week. What are your thoughts on
how they match up against the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I think it's a good matchup. I know the forty
nine ers obviously are three and three, and they don't
feel like a three and three football team. But they've
they've certainly, you know, had a good game against the Seahawks.
You know, they've lost the tough win against Arizona. I
like I have a hard time ever going against the
Chiefs because of the continuity factor. I think you're right that,
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you know, brock Pritty's played very well. It looks like
Juju Smith Schuster will be able to go. At least
that's the words from Andy Reid that he thinks he's
gonna be able to go. I just think that San
Francisco probably isn't a better position to playing at home.
I just think that from a defensive standpoint, San Francisco's
playing a better spot. I know they're still banged up
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a little bit on the defense side. I like, as
much as I'm a Chief believer, I think this one
bills in San Francisco this weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Texans come in to take on the Packers. I watched
the Packers and you know, listen, I thought Arizona was
pretty good for a couple weeks of the season. They
were fairly non competitive last weekend. And the Texans they
had some They've had some really close games but persevered
to only have one loss. Two really talented young quarterbacks.
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How good. Let's start with the Texans. How good are they?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yeah, I think we'll have a better sense of them, right,
I mean, they did beat the Buffalo Bills. Other than that,
you know, they beat the Bears, and they've beat a
Colts team and the Jaguars team and the Patriots team.
So it's not you know, if they don't have the
Bills win, I'm sitting there going, well, they've certainly got
the schedule figured out. I think the Packers are the
better team. I think they're more explosive across the board.
I think they have a better offensive line. I think
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those things all come into it. You know, from a
defensive standpoint, I like the aggressiveness that we see from
coach Hapley, the defensive coordinator at the Green Bay Packers.
He takes more risks and you know, whether CJ's crowd
and company can capitalize on that, and I don't know
if they'll be able to because I think that they're
going to try to get after Stroud pretty hard. As
long as Jaye Alexander's out there on the field, that
gives them a better chance of winning the game at
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cornerbacks because he's such a good player when he can
be healthy and when he is healthy. But that's just
such a big piece of the puzzle as well for
the Green Bay Packers. So all that being said, I
really I lean towards the Packers in this game. I
think we'll find out exactly who the Houston Texans really
are based off how they performance. They beat the Packers
and then Houston's got themselves and you know they've actually
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got a great record, but then they certainly put another
notch on their belt saying hey, look, we're not just
messing around to the AFC South. We're going to try
to get the AFC Conference title too.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm really interested in the Jaguars. A lot of talk
that they'll be a coaching change when they return from overseas,
but Trevor Lawrence just does not look the same. So
I'll put you back in the GMC you're trying to
fix Trevor Lauren because you just signed a contract extension.
Sound like you're gonna run him off. What do you do?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Right? It's kind of what I talked about before, you know,
when that was around Coach Dungee and working underneath him.
A lot of things he talked about is like, dude, less,
but do it better. You know That's that's kind of
the mantra that he had, like, Okay, if we're not
going to get this done, we're going to at least
do this smaller part better. I don't know what to
say about Trevor Lawrence and what I mean by that is,
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and I was very vocal with you too. I don't
think Trevor Lawrence should have gotten that kind of a contract.
I don't think he's performed to that level. I think
you think you're buying what you think you're going to get.
But the reality is Trevor Lawrence is still on pace
for probably right around twenty five touchdown. That's what he
does every year, and so I just I feel like
that's what Trevor Lawrence is. And as much as you
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can have weapons around him, and I know it's going
to be good to have Evan Anger hopefully going and
what that means. But if there's going to be a
change of coach, Quite frankly, I think I don't think
the rosters as good as I think that Trent Balki
has led the owner to believe. And I think that's
more of the pressing part is that I just don't
think when you look at them defensively, right, Doug, what's
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the defensive player you're scared of? Trayvon Walker's been good,
Josh Allen's been good. They've paid their players a lot
of money, but they're not getting that much money in
return for how much they're paying these players in the
first place. Even Brandon Sheriff's not looking like the player
that they've paid for. And that's the thing that I
think haunting this team.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Got leave show here on Fox Sports Radio. Miami's waiting
on Tua. But how do you protect yourself if you're Miami, right?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I think the only way you well see the problem
you have is that ten Hills plably not going to
pick to Miami. But he's obviously the one quarterback you'd
sit there and go locause that could make a lot
of sense, you know, because he's the best quarterback that's
out there on the streets. You've got to call around.
I think you call to the other thirty one clubs.
You look at roster as the depth charts and say, hey, look,
maybe we want James Winston or maybe you want you know,
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some other quarterback that's played in the Nation Football League,
and you're like, I can go get him from them
and see if we can get fixed in terms of
like our roster in that that position. So I think
you've got to call the other clubs, look at the
depth charts and say, who's got the best number two
slash three that can you know, like a Miles Davis
and go, hey, look, I know Houston, you signed him
to an extension, but we might want to go get
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him because he's proven to be good. He might not
be great, but he's proven to be a good guy
that you can win around. Or maybe it's Gardner Minshew,
even though I think Gardner Minshew's showing everybody what he
can be or what he is. He's just a solid quarterback.
But I think you've got to look around the thirty
one of the clubs because I don't think ten Hills
an option.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I don't think so either. I really don't as well.
I'm interested in what you think about the Raiders and
kind of the selloff now, right, it's you're getting Tom
Brady's saying, Hey, I want Belichick to be the coach,
but you just hired Telesco, who he's from Napoleon family, right,
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you still have Mark Davis. It's just kind of this
weird sort of thing where there's no true direction. Don't
get me wrong. You know, to LESCo, I'm I'm not
shy to meet a friend and has obviously done a
very good job draft and go back to his days
with the Chargers. But how do you think that plays
out there as they appear to be packing it in
for this year?
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, I think it's bad. I think it's been a
very difficult to watch them. You know, obviously with their
quarterback situation Number one, I never thought they should have
started garnering minshew. I think they should have just given
the season to Aidan O'Connell and see what he is
and know exactly what they're going to get. And now
you're getting Adan O'Connell there, and Jakobe Myers is been playing,
and now your best receiver has been shopped, you know,
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you've got a tight end that's you know, on the NFI.
So it's it's kind of hard to get a sense
of who this young quarterback is. And even he's not
good enough, what I feel is a one and done
season coming right down the road for the Las Vegas Raiders.
And that's for Antonio Pierce. I just I don't feel
overly confident and where they're headed as a football team
and just his just the general feel for it I do.
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I don't think it's just like, oh, it's automatically going
to be Belichick. I think Tom's left could be in
trouble too. I mean Tom's a good friend of mine too.
I've known him for so long, you know, great opportunity
for him to actually go from one team to the other.
And you know, if you look at the Raiders draft
class this year, I'd sit there and say, you know,
obviously brought Powers is then exactly what I think we
all thought it would be. DJ Glides has coming there
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and I think played well at right tackle. Right now,
I'm saying with Jackson Powers, Johnson's been good. So I
mean your first three picks are actually playing well. So
I think you got to take down an account. I
don't know if it's a one and done for Tom.
I do think Belichick would go in there. But you're
gonna you know, it's a different animal, Like you said,
Napoleon family versus the Belichick family, two different worlds. You
got to just be prepared to live in it, and
you've got to be prepared to give up some of
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your probably your jew in the draft drum or maybe
juice and free agency to Belichick if you want to
keep that job.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Mark Dominic spent over twenty years in the NFL, and
of course he was a scouting guy, front office guy,
and most notably the gentle manager of the Tampay Buccaneers.
And he gives you what you really should know about
what's really happening inside the National Football League. Mark, you
the best, have a wonderful weekend. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
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Speaker 1 (31:26):
Doug Gotlib Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's a Friday. That
means our game is determined by one Dan Buyer.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Hello Doug, the game today?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh Dan Byer.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The game today is I got DIBs is where we
throw on a topic and we just try to get
DIBs four on the board. Today, we'll see if we
can get to all four. Topic number one for Doug
big Apple, Sam and Jason Stewart and myself the World
Series in the past that still makes you mad today,
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the World Series that still makes you mad.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Oh man, this is so good.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I got DIBs on nineteen ninety one. I think we
all jumped on the Braves bandwagon at that point because
they weren't anything, but they were facing the Minnesota Twins
who were looking for their second title in what four years?
Five years one in eighty seven, and then go to
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that game seven and Jack Morris is just nails. Now.
This also is at the time of not knowing the
great success that the Braves were about to embark on. Granted,
maybe not World Series success, but that makes nineteen ninety
one a part of that. I just wanted the Braves
to win that World Series and they didn't, So I'm
sayingeteen ninety one.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
That's kind of an upset. I thought you were going
to go with nineteen eighty two when Don Sutton ruined
your team's only chance at a World Series.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But I don't remember much from the eighty two World Series,
to be honest, except that my grandma got to go
because my uncle took her to one of the games,
and I believe it was an afternoon game for some reason.
I think it was like an afternoon game on a
weekend at County Stadium.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Harvey's Wallbangers. Yeah, I got dips. This is really easy.
This is wheelhouse stuff for me. The Houston Astros were
caught cheating in twenty seventeen. They cheated every single home
game for the duration of the season. It was proven
anecdotally and with evidence anecdotally for those listeners not up
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to speed. The players gained immunity and divulged that they
cheated so they could not get any punishment. One of
the biggest farces and tragedies in the history of sports,
the twenty seventeen Astros. And guess what team lost the
World Series that year, the Los Angeles Dodge, and the
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World Series title has yet to be taken away from
the Astros because I think Manford said it's a slippery swap.
So that's that's an easy answer for me. Dan, and
thank you for calling up those emotions.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Okay, I got DIBs on the two thousand and one
Diamondbacks over the Yankees. Remember I had that that that
bloop Gonzo had that bloop off of Oh Haya Rivera, right,
and j Bell couldn't get a bunt down as back
when people bunted.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Hey, J Bell couldn't get a bunt down. I did
not think that you would. You were going to be
able to pull something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
That's dude, I remember that series. That's I remember that
series like the back of my hand because the reason
I continue to do radio I was filling in two
thousand and one was Jim Traber was the voice the Diamondbacks.
He's also long running afternoon host on The Sports Animal
and Oklahoma City. So I watched like every one of
those games hoping that the Diamondbacks would win. But I
was sitting there going like, there's some crazy things that
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go bump in the night.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Of course, they had Randy Johnson and Kurk chilling, but
it really came down to the bullpen and Young Young
Kim ends up the victor, whereas Mario Rivera ends up
kind of the goat in this He's the Goat as
the greatest closer of all time, but the Goat in
terms of the bad type of goat in that series,
and you know, for the totality of his career, he
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was lights out. He just had some things go against
him in that series.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
I'll take DIBs on and you know, this is kind
of a distant fourth here, but I'll take DIBs on
the Nationals Astros World Series from twenty nineteen, simply because
all of the games were won by the road team
and the home team the home stadium, the home crowd
never got to celebrate. But it was cool to see
the Nationals win it, I'll give it them, but you
never got they never got to celebrate with their home fans.
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It is crazy, strange World Series.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I think that's one of the facts that I can't
wait to tell thirty years from now, to be like, well,
back in in twenty nineteen, you know, the home team
never even won a game, and now they play best
of thirteen. So all right. Second topic, shocking retirements. This
on the heels of Tony Bennett stepping down as the
Virginia men's basketball coach. Shocking retirements in sports?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Were you shocked to I mean I got Devis Jordan
retiring after his dad and night your dad been murdered.
I mean that was studying studying.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Murdered by the wrong guy that's been serving time. Yeah, supposedly,
I got dips. November seventh, nineteen ninety one. I was
listening to the ninety six ninety I want to say,
the Louse Cannons when they said that the Lakers and
Magic Johnson are holding a press conference, and I remember crying.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yep, I was crying aso Magic tell Us was. I
was listening. I was in high school, and our coach
Tom McCluskey called us all in, set us all on
the jim floor and said, guys, Magic Johnson's retiring from
the Lakers. He's got HIV, which is the virus that
leads to AIDS, and he's going to die from this
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terrible disease. And he went into a long story about
about the need for safe sex and stay away from
drugs with needles, And here we are, thirty three years later,
Magic Johnson is healthier than the rest of us. He's
a terrible tweeter, but very much alive.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And well, I'll quickly say this is a recent one.
Nick Saban because it was also the day that Pete
Carroll was let go, so you have this crazy news day,
and so Nick Saban actually stepping down when he did
this past winter.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
If you will, nothing Iowa from you, Iowa, Sam
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Lisa Blueter of course, right, yeah, sure, that's game, Tom
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big on this, you know. And I'm not as big
on New York baseball as Big Apple Sam is, nor
am I huge dot your fan the way that Jason
Stewart is. I just know that baseball actually talent wise
and quality of play wise, converse to I think the NFL.
(01:11):
And Jason, you tell me if I'm wrong. Here we've talked,
and we talk. We'll talk in the podcast about as well.
On you talk about you call it Zoropa like the
Zoropa albums Zopa Tour, where the NFL is kind of
living on reputation. The product isn't that good. I actually
think Major League Baseball's product is outstanding, but the reputation isn't.
It has a reputation of being boring in stale and
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nondescript teams winning it is that fair?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Do you think the product is actually really good?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
The product of baseball?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think the product the actual talent in the game.
I think there's there's never been more talent in the game. Sure,
But the antics of the players and the way they
choose to play the game and some of the rule
changes pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But no, I think the rule changes. But look the
rule changes that brought athleticism back to the sport. There's
more balls in play. Remember, if you go back before
the rule changes, more than sixty six percent, more than
two thirds of the time, a pitch would only be
touched by potentially only three people involved pitcher, catcher and hitter. Right,
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it was either strikeout, walk, or home run. And the
rule changes have made, you know, playing small ball a
little bit kind of back in vogue and not having
the shift and having the universal DH, all of these things,
it's been good. I think the sports actually play wise
and talent wise in a good place. I know you
don't like the antics. Everybody has a celebration when they
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get a single. You know, it can be an error
and they still do something, you know, some sort of
gyration to their to their dugout. We can talk about
that later day. The point is that baseball talent wise,
baseball skill wise, baseball execution wise in a good place.
But it needs Dodge's Yankees for mainstream people to pay
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attention to it, much the way the WNBA is better
than it has ever been. But they need Caitlin Clark
to play as much as possible for me to people
to actually pay attention to him. And then, of course
you got the Yankees. Oi. Yeah, YOI what a way
to lose a game if you're the Yankees. These are
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games that the Yankees traditionally always seem to win, right,
always seem to win. And yet the improbable happens when
the Yankees bullpen absolutely blows it. Right, suppose between Luke
Weaver and Clay Holmes, just one after the next did
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not look comfortable, and neither did Tommy us. What's the
guy's name, Tommy? Shoot the guy? He walked a couple
of guys when he first came in. Just too many walks.
I mean, I was by the story of last night
was the walks of the Dodgers and the walks by
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the Yankees of the Guardians. But that was one where
I'm watching the game and you know, it's four to
three and then five to three. I think, what wasn't
five to three heading into the bottom of the ninth,
And then this happened in the.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Deep time.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Cleveland, John Jensen, Nowell, John Kenson, Noel nicknames Big Christmas
two outs, Bob of the ninth. And I have a
I have a coach who coaches with me. His name
is Jordan McCabe. Jordan mcabe is if you ever know
the site ball is life like. He was the first
ever player. He is Zion Williamson and Jordan McCabe were
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the first ball as life guys. And he started when
I first got here. May hated baseball. Took to a
Brewer game. We had a couple of beers. He's like,
you know what, not bad? So I mandated that he
watched playoff baseball last night and he was like, did
you watch that Yankee game? That was unbelievable. I thought
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the game was over. And the thing about baseball is
there is no time limit. It's not over to you
get that twenty seventh out, and that was with twenty
six outs. Here's David Fry with a runner on second,
score tiede in the tenth swing, hit.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
High, hit deep left.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Segus.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Too run, home run to the play cherson left by
David Fried.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Who is that with the Who is that what they call?
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Dan Tom Hamilton on the call.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
My favorite thing about that home run on the tenth
inning off of the bat of David Fry is because
of the way Jacob's field we'll call it is situated,
and you have that enormous scoreboard in left. He's a
right handed hitter, pulls a shot to left field, and
as the ball is traveling over the fence.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
There's this enormance.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, it has this enormous graphic of David Fry. So
it is it is perfect, like because it is his moment,
it is his shot. He poses at the plate, camera
cuts to the ball going over and about I don't know,
forty two percent of your screen when you're watching it
is this huge David Fry graphic because he was at bat.
(06:33):
It was such an awesome visual aside from it being
a walk off, two run home run that was absolutely crushed,
but also to have the picture of his graphic on
the scoreboard in the background, amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Truly amazing, truly, truly, truly amazing. I just again, I
want Dodgers Yankees World Series, but I do love seeing
the Yankees lose, especially in the Bob of the ninth.
Who doesn't and just the idea that that I hadn't
seen a home run that big since David Freeze in
the World Series in Game six, last strike, Bott of
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the ninth and then of course once again in extra
innings it was David Freeze and that was when Joe
Buck had the tip of the cap to his dad,
we'll see you tomorrow night. Right. That was exciting, Like
I get excited even listening to Tom Hamilton with the call.
That is in fact baseball, Like we joke about baseball
being so you know, the weird thing you can't explain,
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but that is baseball where it's like, all right, this
thing's over Yankees would be about up three games to none,
and then of course the Dodgers are up three games
to one, like these series are winding down and then
all of a sudden, one swing of the bat and
we got extras. One more swing of the bat and
we got ourselves a series.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And Luke Weaver has been so good, i think the
last part of the season and especially in this postseason.
He's been just dominant, and you get the feeling and
you know it's an uphill climb for the Guardians because
they have half the talent thing Inkos do, but you
get the feeling that that was like a blow. That
was a gut punch. We were giving up that tie
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in run with two outs in the night, and we've
seen this happen in baseball. There's precedent for this. You
go back to one moment in time, and that could
have been the series. If the Guardians end up coming back,
I'm going to go back to that big Christmas moment
against Weaver, who had been untouchable for most of the postseason.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
YEP, it is. It is a big one. And we'll
talk about this later on the show, probably talk about
some in the pod, which is like just like when
you blow a save like that, it's really hard. And
those guys are wired differently, right, they've been they tried
out there so much that they blow on. All right,
I gotta come back. But there is you know, there
(08:55):
is that hangover effect, and I think I think show
hate leading off the NLC. Yes, with the home run,
I thought there was a hangover for the rest of
the game. Dodgers have a lead, Dodgers play with confidence,
Dodgers up one to nothing. It felt like, you know,
they're playing with house money to start the game. But yeah,
how Luke Weaver responds, how that Yankee bullpen responds, Because
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you're not winning anything baseball now without the bullpen, you
gotta be big. But what a what a great night
for baseball. By the way, here's Mookie Betts. Did he
talk about Jason Stewart calling him on Twitter? No, he
talked about the performance without Freddy Freeman. No, this is
the second game we won without Freddy, so maybe Freddie
need to not play anything. There's a little fake media
(09:42):
laugh right there.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Right, that was a little a little over the top.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know, here's Max Muncy saying, you know the cliche,
they're not done yet.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
For us, tomorrow it's a zero zero series. We got
to go out there and take care of business. You know,
we're not thinking about, you know, one more game. We're
thinking about tomorrow's zero zero series. We got to go
out there prepare the right way. You know, game playing
the right way can get our approach going, and you know,
just take care of business and play.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
To Dodger baseball, I totally understand. Okay, I understand that
for the Dodgers, you want to like this just sets
up so well to them, the fact that you're playing
three nights in a row. When you get it again,
remember you get ahead, and I know in baseball it's
hard to have momentum carry over. But when you win,
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you know, two out of the first three and don't
allow a run, then you win the next one and
you know, you score ten runs you only allow too,
and Show Hayes hitting and Mookie Bets is hitting, and
you're like, oh, holy hell, now what and then you
get no time to collect your thoughts. It does feel
like it's over. It does. I'm not like calling it
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when you know the Mets, it's not like the Dodgers
have the world's greatest starting pitching. But man, this series,
if it if it closes up shop tonight that thing.
If you're the Mets, you had to feel like after
Game two this, wait, what happened?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
What what happened? I'll relate it to this. I'm coaching
my first college game tomorrow. Do you guys know that?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
We have a scrimmage, secret scrimmage. And one thing I
do know from having broadcast games and coached high school.
Uh I coached actually one high school game and a
bunch of au and overseas, is the games they can
turn on a dime. Like you get you get a
bad lineup, and all of a sudden, you get in
a bad run and you never recover. And I feel
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like the Mets. I feel like the Mets. You know,
once Mookie got it going show a hits home run.
When you're talking three days in a row, three l's
potentially three l's in row. And now we're out of there, like, wait,
we were just we won Game two. We came bouncing
back to New York. We're at City Field. You know
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this is what we do at LEFG. Let's go Mets,
and it feels like it's over.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
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Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. That's Fox Sports Radio. Bayer,
did you watch the Thursday night game? I know you're
prone to watch football first and football second, football foremost,
plus you have your fantasy podcast. How much of that game?
Did you watch?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
About half of it?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It was a tough one.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It was a hard watch, so hard watch.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Normally, if all the participants were playing, it would have
been worthwhile. But the Saints were so decimated and the
Broncos just aren't a pretty watch offensively that it made
for an awful Thursday night game.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It was a bad one. It was a bad one.
Spencer Rattler, you guys remember him, started Oklahoma, then was
replaced by Caleb Williams, transferred to South Carolina. And you know.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's the stuff that actually annoys me. Are people who
talk themselves into like, hey, this is the answer. This
is our Brock Purty, this is our Tom Brady. I
think Spencer Ratler is going to be the guy. Really,
it's really what we think. Now, maybe he deserves more
of a chance of what he had last night, considering
how short handed they were. Yes, but this is the
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sort of crap that you get and it wasn't all
his fault.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But no, no, But what a weird year for the Saints, right,
And I know injuries are a huge, huge factor, but
to put up forty seven and forty four and then
you think of how they lost that game to the
Eagles and since then, complete and utter house of cards,
(14:05):
House of cards, they've lost five in a row. They
got the Chargers on the road, who without a healthy
team against the physicality of the Chargers, they win. The
Panthers one of the two teams they've beaten Falcons and
Brown So it's not a crazy hard schedule. But what
leads you to believe after watching last night or give
up fifty one to the Buccaneers, that they can be competitive,
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let alone win.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, that's that is the Other part of the equation
is maybe you look at and you see certain wins
down the road and then you remember that it's the
Saints team that you're talking about. Now. Derek Carr is
expected to do some throwing this weekend, but honestly, for
an organization that really needs a reboot. Alvin Kamari even
talked about it last night, being frustrated and seeing the
fans leave early. There just wasn't any energy, even if
(14:51):
Drew Brees was going into the Hall of Fame. It
just is a different feel and it feels like apathy
is starting to set in and them ruling off another
eight straight losses may not be the worst thing in
the world long term for them, but man, I likened
it to the Panthers in two thousand and one when
they won their first game and then lost the next
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fifteen in a row, where the Saints could start too
and oh and then who knows, maybe you end up
two in fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh god, they were good those first two weeks. And
I know the Panthers the first game, but they were
really good.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Which was just which was the biggest why of the
first two weeks? The Saints, who, by the way, I
think the Cowboys should feel much worse about themselves right
now for getting their asses kicked by the Saints the
way they did at home, By the way, but what
was the bigger why? The Saints or the Raiders going
into Baltimore on winning. How unusual does that sound given
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the state of the teams.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I actually I was gonna say, I think the Raiders
is more of the fake. The Saints. You can't, sorry,
say what you will about Derek Carr, he's injured. You
don't have chrys O Lave, you don't have Rashid Shaheed.
Those are very big parts of your offense. So last
night could have been understood a little bit, even though
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the Broncos were playing with Alt Patrick's artan the Raiders
coming back and scoring what like thirteen unanswered against the
Ravens to win in that fourth quarter to be as
more of the outlier.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean the Raiders one was a super weird one.
I think that one's the biggest outlier, biggest outlier because
the Raiders legitimately stink. They don't have a quarterback. Now, granted,
at the time they had one of the best defense
players in football, one of the best wide receivers in
football like that it was, and at the time they
still had some hope. But yeah, I would say that's
(16:48):
the bigger lie than the Saints.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Do we have a follow up on how the Drew
Brees chant went. Yes? Yes, was it as disastrous as
the Saints offense? I did see it last night.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, it wasn't as confusing, but it did not go
off like he said that they were going to lift
the roof off of the Superdome. Roof is still on,
by the way. He just powered through it. He just like,
did it rapid fire? You couldn't decipher what the crowd
was saying. And then he was like, thank you. It
(17:22):
was pretty much a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It was random.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, it was just again nobody knew what their role was.
One two buckle my shoe. Yeah, I guess, Oh yeah, uh.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Chub, Nick Chubb. Let's get to our good friend. Mark Dominic,
former general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers, join us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Saints just
been decimated by injuries and they're not that good. Broncos
are a hard watch. Any takeaways of note from that
game last night?
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Well, I think the sad part was as much as
you were rooting for Spencer Rattler and what he could
possibly do or what he could possibly be. That was
ruined pretty hard last night in terms of being rattled
and just the sacks and the plays. Uh just you know,
I know it took them in the fifth round. It
is what it is, but it just shows you again, Uh,
(18:19):
you got to have something that's more viable at quarterback
after your first string guy, because you've got to be
able to be competitive in games. And that game just
wasn't competitive. But I'm sure for coach Payton h that
was a very important game for him to win, even
though he won't admit it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, no, no question about it. Let's get to the Cowboys.
I know they've had a lot of injuries as well,
but how fixable there issues?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I think it's concerning. You know, I've always been a
Cowboy guy, as you know. You know they got to
the two rookies. Not offensive line, but to me, it's
more defensively. It's just it's and yes, Michael Parsons, you
know it's a big, big loss, but they've been through,
like you said, some injury. It just doesn't feel like
the defense is finding its groove and and as comfortable
(19:05):
under coach Zimmer uh than coach Quinn. And they are
completely different types of coaches. And I think that maybe
the players aren't responding quite the way I thought they would,
and so it's been you know, frustrating and just it
does not look like like we said, Like you said,
it's just not the same team. You know. Obviously they've
got the Marcus Lawrence and Neelan's on ir and Sam
(19:26):
Williams never even got there, so they've got pieces of
that team. Dron Blamb's not back yet that are all
missing that they eagerly need. But the only thing that
can fix this team right now is what you're talking about,
and that's the magic of health.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's in the meantime. It's it's tough, it's it's really
really tough, Nick Sirianni kind of giving it back to
his own fans. They did win, but it's not like
they were crazy impressive. What's your sense of the Eagles
and whether out their coach can get them on the
right track.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, I mean I think he can. I think he
can get him on the right track. I feel like
he tried to steal something out of Dan Campbell's playbook,
even though Dan Campbell played in the National Football League
and certainly has a little more clout to him in
terms of, you know, being the tough guy. It felt
like Nick was trying to be Joe tough guy and
doesn't have to do that, even though Philly is a
tough town. It was just here's bizarre, and obviously he
(20:25):
apologized for how he handled himself. I do think there's
still time, but it's a one year thing. Howie Roseveen
showed in the past to be quick to make decisions
of how he's safe there. I think as the general manager, certainly,
but I don't know that Nick is. This team's got
to get it turned around, right. This is not really
the NFC East is at all what I thought it
(20:45):
would be at this point, and so there's still opportunity
for all these clubs to kind of get themselves back
in order. But the Commanders play the Panthers this weekend
and can move out to five and two with a win.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
How who improved more, the Bills or the Jets with
their wide spride receiver acquisition.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
So I think the Bills did, and the reason why
as much as I like Devanta Adams and yeah, he'll
hopefully be healthy and ready to play. You know, Garrett
Wilson's a legit, no doubt in my mind. Number One,
it was a mistake I think from the previous you
know Nate Hackett, you see Todd Downings forcing the ball
to him, and that's what you got to do. You
have to force your ball to the best players and
let them make a play. I think the Buffalo Bill's
(21:26):
skier has been very good, but I think they have
him an Amari Cooper to be like a number one
type of guy is going to be a big difference
for the Buffalo offense as well as Josh Allen's playing
rather than Devanta Adams. Are they already having a one
this is going to help him. They've got a crowded
receiver room, which isn't a bad thing, but that doesn't
fix their offensive line. And that's the concern I still
have with the Jets.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The Pittsburgh Steelers appear appear to be poised to start
Russell Wilson. This despite the fact of four and two
on the year Justin Fields has handled it pretty well.
Does it actually make them better to start Russell Wilson?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I think it does. I think that, you know, when
you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers and how they've played
this year, certainly being formed to at this point and
losing two games very by very small margin, the difference is,
you know, Justin Field is really you know, outside of
what one or two games He's talked for hundred something
yards every game, right, one hundred and fifty, one hundred
and forty hundred and thirty, one hundred and ten. He's
(22:23):
done a good job of not losing the games, and
they're calling the games that way for him. I think
the offense is going to be more explosive in terms
of passing the ball, in terms of getting the ball
out to wide receivers, in terms of I think you
can see thirty two to thirty five attempts and that
kind of stuff. I just think it's going to be
a different game with Russell Wilson. So as good as
you know, JJ has again not had the turnovers, just
the one interception. He's taken quite a few sacks. But
(22:46):
I think overall this is going to be a better
off now going forward with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Mark Dominic, longtime front office better a former
general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jorge Weekly here
in the Doug Otli Show on Fox Sports Radio. There
are a couple of huge games this week, and none
bigger than Niners versus the Chiefs. Niners obviously have struggled
some with all of their injuries, but well, brock perty
(23:12):
was really good last week. What are your thoughts on
how they match up against the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
I think it's a good matchup. I know the forty
nine ers obviously are three and three, and they don't
feel like a three and three football team. But they've
they've certainly, you know, had a good game against the Seahawks.
You know, they've lost the tough win against Arizona. I
like I have a hard time ever going against the
Chiefs because of the continuity factor. I think you're right that,
(23:38):
you know, brock Pritty's played very well. It looks like
Juju Smith Schuster will be able to go. At least
that's the words from Andy Reid that he thinks he's
gonna be able to go. I just think that San
Francisco probably isn't a better position to playing at home.
I just think that from a defensive standpoint, San Francisco's
playing a better spot. I know they're still banged up
(23:58):
a little bit on the defense side. I like, as
much as I'm a Chief believer, I think this one
bills in San Francisco this weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Texans come in to take on the Packers. I watched
the Packers and you know, listen, I thought Arizona was
pretty good for a couple weeks of the season. They
were fairly non competitive last weekend. And the Texans they
had some They've had some really close games but persevered
to only have one loss. Two really talented young quarterbacks.
(24:25):
How good. Let's start with the Texans. How good are they?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yeah, I think we'll have a better sense of them, right,
I mean, they did beat the Buffalo Bills. Other than that,
you know, they beat the Bears, and they've beat a
Colts team and the Jaguars team and the Patriots team.
So it's not you know, if they don't have the
Bills win, I'm sitting there going, well, they've certainly got
the schedule figured out. I think the Packers are the
better team. I think they're more explosive across the board.
I think they have a better offensive line. I think
(24:50):
those things all come into it. You know, from a
defensive standpoint, I like the aggressiveness that we see from
coach Hapley, the defensive coordinator at the Green Bay Packers.
He takes more risks and you know, whether CJ's crowd
and company can capitalize on that, and I don't know
if they'll be able to because I think that they're
going to try to get after Stroud pretty hard. As
long as Jaye Alexander's out there on the field, that
gives them a better chance of winning the game at
(25:12):
cornerbacks because he's such a good player when he can
be healthy and when he is healthy. But that's just
such a big piece of the puzzle as well for
the Green Bay Packers. So all that being said, I
really I lean towards the Packers in this game. I
think we'll find out exactly who the Houston Texans really
are based off how they performance. They beat the Packers
and then Houston's got themselves and you know they've actually
(25:32):
got a great record, but then they certainly put another
notch on their belt saying hey, look, we're not just
messing around to the AFC South. We're going to try
to get the AFC Conference title too.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm really interested in the Jaguars. A lot of talk
that they'll be a coaching change when they return from overseas,
but Trevor Lawrence just does not look the same. So
I'll put you back in the GMC you're trying to
fix Trevor Lauren because you just signed a contract extension.
Sound like you're gonna run him off. What do you do?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Right? It's kind of what I talked about before, you know,
when that was around Coach Dungee and working underneath him.
A lot of things he talked about is like, dude, less,
but do it better. You know That's that's kind of
the mantra that he had, like, Okay, if we're not
going to get this done, we're going to at least
do this smaller part better. I don't know what to
say about Trevor Lawrence and what I mean by that is,
(26:28):
and I was very vocal with you too. I don't
think Trevor Lawrence should have gotten that kind of a contract.
I don't think he's performed to that level. I think
you think you're buying what you think you're going to get.
But the reality is Trevor Lawrence is still on pace
for probably right around twenty five touchdown. That's what he
does every year, and so I just I feel like
that's what Trevor Lawrence is. And as much as you
(26:51):
can have weapons around him, and I know it's going
to be good to have Evan Anger hopefully going and
what that means. But if there's going to be a
change of coach, Quite frankly, I think I don't think
the rosters as good as I think that Trent Balki
has led the owner to believe. And I think that's
more of the pressing part is that I just don't
think when you look at them defensively, right, Doug, what's
(27:12):
the defensive player you're scared of? Trayvon Walker's been good,
Josh Allen's been good. They've paid their players a lot
of money, but they're not getting that much money in
return for how much they're paying these players in the
first place. Even Brandon Sheriff's not looking like the player
that they've paid for. And that's the thing that I
think haunting this team.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Got leave show here on Fox Sports Radio. Miami's waiting
on Tua. But how do you protect yourself if you're Miami, right?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I think the only way you well see the problem
you have is that ten Hills plably not going to
pick to Miami. But he's obviously the one quarterback you'd
sit there and go locause that could make a lot
of sense, you know, because he's the best quarterback that's
out there on the streets. You've got to call around.
I think you call to the other thirty one clubs.
You look at roster as the depth charts and say, hey, look,
maybe we want James Winston or maybe you want you know,
(28:07):
some other quarterback that's played in the Nation Football League,
and you're like, I can go get him from them
and see if we can get fixed in terms of
like our roster in that that position. So I think
you've got to call the other clubs, look at the
depth charts and say, who's got the best number two
slash three that can you know, like a Miles Davis
and go, hey, look, I know Houston, you signed him
to an extension, but we might want to go get
(28:27):
him because he's proven to be good. He might not
be great, but he's proven to be a good guy
that you can win around. Or maybe it's Gardner Minshew,
even though I think Gardner Minshew's showing everybody what he
can be or what he is. He's just a solid quarterback.
But I think you've got to look around the thirty
one of the clubs because I don't think ten Hills
an option.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I don't think so either. I really don't as well.
I'm interested in what you think about the Raiders and
kind of the selloff now, right, it's you're getting Tom
Brady's saying, Hey, I want Belichick to be the coach,
but you just hired Telesco, who he's from Napoleon family, right,
(29:07):
you still have Mark Davis. It's just kind of this
weird sort of thing where there's no true direction. Don't
get me wrong. You know, to LESCo, I'm I'm not
shy to meet a friend and has obviously done a
very good job draft and go back to his days
with the Chargers. But how do you think that plays
out there as they appear to be packing it in
for this year?
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, I think it's bad. I think it's been a
very difficult to watch them. You know, obviously with their
quarterback situation Number one, I never thought they should have
started garnering minshew. I think they should have just given
the season to Aidan O'Connell and see what he is
and know exactly what they're going to get. And now
you're getting Adan O'Connell there, and Jakobe Myers is been playing,
and now your best receiver has been shopped, you know,
(29:50):
you've got a tight end that's you know, on the NFI.
So it's it's kind of hard to get a sense
of who this young quarterback is. And even he's not
good enough, what I feel is a one and done
season coming right down the road for the Las Vegas Raiders.
And that's for Antonio Pierce. I just I don't feel
overly confident and where they're headed as a football team
and just his just the general feel for it I do.
(30:14):
I don't think it's just like, oh, it's automatically going
to be Belichick. I think Tom's left could be in
trouble too. I mean Tom's a good friend of mine too.
I've known him for so long, you know, great opportunity
for him to actually go from one team to the other.
And you know, if you look at the Raiders draft
class this year, I'd sit there and say, you know,
obviously brought Powers is then exactly what I think we
all thought it would be. DJ Glides has coming there
(30:36):
and I think played well at right tackle. Right now,
I'm saying with Jackson Powers, Johnson's been good. So I
mean your first three picks are actually playing well. So
I think you got to take down an account. I
don't know if it's a one and done for Tom.
I do think Belichick would go in there. But you're
gonna you know, it's a different animal, Like you said,
Napoleon family versus the Belichick family, two different worlds. You
got to just be prepared to live in it, and
you've got to be prepared to give up some of
(30:56):
your probably your jew in the draft drum or maybe
juice and free agency to Belichick if you want to
keep that job.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Mark Dominic spent over twenty years in the NFL, and
of course he was a scouting guy, front office guy,
and most notably the gentle manager of the Tampay Buccaneers.
And he gives you what you really should know about
what's really happening inside the National Football League. Mark, you
the best, have a wonderful weekend. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Doug Gotlib Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's a Friday. That
means our game is determined by one Dan Buyer.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Hello Doug, the game today?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh Dan Byer.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The game today is I got DIBs is where we
throw on a topic and we just try to get
DIBs four on the board. Today, we'll see if we
can get to all four. Topic number one for Doug
big Apple, Sam and Jason Stewart and myself the World
Series in the past that still makes you mad today,
(32:12):
the World Series that still makes you mad.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Oh man, this is so good.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I got DIBs on nineteen ninety one. I think we
all jumped on the Braves bandwagon at that point because
they weren't anything, but they were facing the Minnesota Twins
who were looking for their second title in what four years?
Five years one in eighty seven, and then go to
(32:39):
that game seven and Jack Morris is just nails. Now.
This also is at the time of not knowing the
great success that the Braves were about to embark on. Granted,
maybe not World Series success, but that makes nineteen ninety
one a part of that. I just wanted the Braves
to win that World Series and they didn't, So I'm
sayingeteen ninety one.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
That's kind of an upset. I thought you were going
to go with nineteen eighty two when Don Sutton ruined
your team's only chance at a World Series.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But I don't remember much from the eighty two World Series,
to be honest, except that my grandma got to go
because my uncle took her to one of the games,
and I believe it was an afternoon game for some reason.
I think it was like an afternoon game on a
weekend at County Stadium.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Harvey's Wallbangers. Yeah, I got dips. This is really easy.
This is wheelhouse stuff for me. The Houston Astros were
caught cheating in twenty seventeen. They cheated every single home
game for the duration of the season. It was proven
anecdotally and with evidence anecdotally for those listeners not up
(33:47):
to speed. The players gained immunity and divulged that they
cheated so they could not get any punishment. One of
the biggest farces and tragedies in the history of sports,
the twenty seventeen Astros. And guess what team lost the
World Series that year, the Los Angeles Dodge, and the
(34:08):
World Series title has yet to be taken away from
the Astros because I think Manford said it's a slippery swap.
So that's that's an easy answer for me. Dan, and
thank you for calling up those emotions.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Okay, I got DIBs on the two thousand and one
Diamondbacks over the Yankees. Remember I had that that that
bloop Gonzo had that bloop off of Oh Haya Rivera, right,
and j Bell couldn't get a bunt down as back
when people bunted.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Hey, J Bell couldn't get a bunt down. I did
not think that you would. You were going to be
able to pull something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
That's dude, I remember that series. That's I remember that
series like the back of my hand because the reason
I continue to do radio I was filling in two
thousand and one was Jim Traber was the voice the Diamondbacks.
He's also long running afternoon host on The Sports Animal
and Oklahoma City. So I watched like every one of
those games hoping that the Diamondbacks would win. But I
was sitting there going like, there's some crazy things that
(35:11):
go bump in the night.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Of course, they had Randy Johnson and Kurk chilling, but
it really came down to the bullpen and Young Young
Kim ends up the victor, whereas Mario Rivera ends up
kind of the goat in this He's the Goat as
the greatest closer of all time, but the Goat in
terms of the bad type of goat in that series,
and you know, for the totality of his career, he
(35:34):
was lights out. He just had some things go against
him in that series.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
I'll take DIBs on and you know, this is kind
of a distant fourth here, but I'll take DIBs on
the Nationals Astros World Series from twenty nineteen, simply because
all of the games were won by the road team
and the home team the home stadium, the home crowd
never got to celebrate. But it was cool to see
the Nationals win it, I'll give it them, but you
never got they never got to celebrate with their home fans.
(36:00):
It is crazy, strange World Series.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I think that's one of the facts that I can't
wait to tell thirty years from now, to be like, well,
back in in twenty nineteen, you know, the home team
never even won a game, and now they play best
of thirteen. So all right. Second topic, shocking retirements. This
on the heels of Tony Bennett stepping down as the
Virginia men's basketball coach. Shocking retirements in sports?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Were you shocked to I mean I got Devis Jordan
retiring after his dad and night your dad been murdered.
I mean that was studying studying.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Murdered by the wrong guy that's been serving time. Yeah, supposedly,
I got dips. November seventh, nineteen ninety one. I was
listening to the ninety six ninety I want to say,
the Louse Cannons when they said that the Lakers and
Magic Johnson are holding a press conference, and I remember crying.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yep, I was crying aso Magic tell Us was. I
was listening. I was in high school, and our coach
Tom McCluskey called us all in, set us all on
the jim floor and said, guys, Magic Johnson's retiring from
the Lakers. He's got HIV, which is the virus that
leads to AIDS, and he's going to die from this
(37:14):
terrible disease. And he went into a long story about
about the need for safe sex and stay away from
drugs with needles, And here we are, thirty three years later,
Magic Johnson is healthier than the rest of us. He's
a terrible tweeter, but very much alive.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
And well, I'll quickly say this is a recent one.
Nick Saban because it was also the day that Pete
Carroll was let go, so you have this crazy news day,
and so Nick Saban actually stepping down when he did
this past winter.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
If you will, nothing Iowa from you, Iowa, Sam
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Lisa Blueter of course, right, yeah, sure, that's game, Tom
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