October 22, 2024 • 37 mins
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I do want to share with you something because it
was a major news story last week. Tony Bennett retired
as head coach in Virginia. I'm the head coach it
wiscons Green Bay, where Tony Bennett starred as a player
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and he played for his dad, Dick Bennett. Dick Bennett's
eighty one years old. He was He's been super kind
to me, so much so that last night, he drove
in and we had like a tip off dinner at
a place called The Bar, which is down on Homegrown Way,
which is literally a block from lambeau Field. It's a
half block from the Rest Center where we play most
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of our home games, and we just had like it
was like Q and A, but it was really a conversation.
And you know, I didn't I didn't tell him, I
wouldn't ask him. But I didn't tell my would ask him.
I was just gonna kind of let him. You guys
know how to do interviews, just kind of let him talk.
And anyway, he shared with the crowd what he shared
(01:41):
with me and what is real and listen, I totally
understand if you think that there's things that are.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Nefarious at play.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I've read different writers who feel, I feel like they're
disconnected from the realities of college coaching.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think Tony.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Was done probably a year ago, and like some of
it is how the sport has changed and what happens.
What you hear is.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Like, well, you know, coaches hold onto money.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It has nothing to do with just the idea of NIL.
Like I am an opponent of what is happening now
with NIL. I'm not opposed to players getting nil, but
what's happening now is not naming engine likeness.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You understand some of it is, and that stuff is great.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And our players if you play well, like hey player,
the game should have a night at the bar at
wherever you pick a spot in town.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They should be spokespeople for things in town. They should
be supported by it, like that's the idea of it.
But just giving money to a guy to give them
to come to your school, like, that's not a nil.
That's buying players, which used to be and it's so weird.
And then there's the idea that you can just leave
and not have to sit out. There's no penalty for it.
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And while you think that's fair, there's no buyouts, there's
no non compete clauses. And so I think it's the
constantly re recruiting your team, constantly being under the pressure
and the scrutiny of having to succeed even though the
landscape has changed dramatically. And if you're a builder, as
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Tony Bennett was a builder, and now it's really hard
to build because you get basically one year that a
new build and a new building a new build. It
gets frustrated and again, he's done it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He's good. So that's why, and why do you do
it now?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So his assistants got to keep their job for one
more year and get a chance to coach, to show
they belong and maybe keep the job. Many coaches, including
Dick Bennett did that when he was at Wisconsin, the
great Dean Smith did that for Bill Guthridge, and of
course Roy Williams did that. Uh did that before he retired.
Hubert Davis got the job. So there's your answer. Let's
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get back to talking football. John Mintokoff's our guests. He's
NLFI analyst hosting a three and out podcast. Are the
Ravens that good?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Did?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Was it the matchup of Tampa? Because man, did they
look like the best team in the NFL last night?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
They did.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I would say remember last year Mark Andrews gets injured
with the hip drop tackle and that, you know, was
a big blow to their offense. And their running game
has been really good in the Lamar era, but it's
been full of you see the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Backfield battle right.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I mean, it's like good players, but they currently have
a Hall of Fame guy that somehow looked.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like he's in the peak of his powers.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So you add that player with healthy Mark Andrew likely
to kind of come onto his own. Zay Flowers last
last year was a rookie, and Lamar is really kind
of master his position of being this dual threat guy.
Obviously he dominated last night. Their defense is not as
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good as last year from a pass game standpoint, Like
early on in that game, you're like, whoa, this looks
like Oklahoma Baker. Then Evans gets hurt many presses and
then they kind of unravels. But maybe their pass defense
not being as good. What's the team they can't beat
the Chiefs?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Well, the Chiefs passing game is not that good, right.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So you know they are more inclined to me to
just win a tougher game because of the running back
they added, who's proven to be a great playoff player.
So you know, depending on the match up in the playoffs,
that pass defense, now, I would guess they'll be sniffing
around for like a DV type trade or even an
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extra pass rusher because historically, like they're cultural a lot
like the Steelers, it ages well, they're just they're going
to improve on that side. But the downfall of them,
let's face it, in the playoffs, has been offensively.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
And I think if Lamar played, This is why I've
bet a bunch of money on them to beat the
Chiefs last year because of Lamar.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I k like, God, if he's playing like he's been playing,
he's gonna win. And then he's kind of resorted back
into not playing as well. But if that guy plays.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Like last night, I mean, we just saw the Chiefs
beat the Diners, which was an impressive win. Was the
final score that game twenty one to twelve or something?
I mean, the Chiefs can't score many points out. Can
they get healthier on offense? Well, the Bills now, Adam
Mauri Cooper, you.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Know the Steelers, I know they look good against the
Jets aren't exactly an offensive juggernaut. The Chargers, if they
win nine or ten games, can't score any points, So
it might it would hurt Hi more in the Super
Bowl if their past defense is the problem. If you're
playing right, the Lions or the Packers, but the way
their offense is humming, it's it's the most dynamic in
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the league, even more than Detroit because the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Can move right.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
If you could get to golf, which is hard because
the offensive line, he has no threat.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
To move around.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, what do
we do with San Francisco As the injuries are just
starting to mount and you're like.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I don't know if this is gonna hunt.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, it's bad. I mean that to me.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
It was such a bad injury with Iyuk because obviously
you lose him for the season, but you know the
reports ACL MCL potentially more damage. So you just keep
your fingers crossed, like the guy could tear their apl
got a young player like him, you wouldn't even think twice.
Then he'll come back full strength. So that's just a
big picture worry. But the McCaffrey thing is, you know,
hovering over their heads. I think what really screws them.
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They didn't play well in the Chiefs game. They deserve
to lose that game. But blowing the Arizona game and
blowing the Rams game, they.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Would still be fine.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Right now they're three and four, well, they be fighting two.
They'd have two asses to Minnesota and Kansas City, and
you'd be like, we got to figure out how to
beat the best team, but we've won the games we
were supposed to win. That's what's killing them now. If
you look back at the Kyle Shanahan era, last year
they were coming, they dominated, but the previous two years
when they made the championship game, one year I think
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they started three and four and the other year they
started three and five. So this team has started slow,
but it does look like the you know, they've just
played a lot of games, and you know, you've played
whatever extra two or three games every year now for
three straight years and you don't have well, we've won
a rank, right, so you're still chasing it. I don't
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want to say it's quite the year from hell, but
they definitely feel more even if they because they do.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
They play well in their division.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean, they were up on the Rams double digits,
they were up on the Cardinals double digits. They own
Seattle now that Russell's gone, so that's you know, I
feel confident in those games. But in this week they
get the Cowboys to think about Sunday night, if the
Niners were to lose to this Cowboy team with Jerry
just eviscerating everybody and you know, former Cowboys destroying them
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un let's face it, they've looked pretty bad against better
teams that that would be.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
An all time low.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But this and if the Cowboys lose that game, you're
losing this Niner team. It's out a bunch of injuries.
Whoever loses that game is gonna feel way worse than
they feel right now. And I would say two teams
that have been in the playoffs in this league, you
could argue no one. I mean, they're bad teams that
are one win, but they were most of us thoughts
they were gonna be bad. Whoever is the losers a night,
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I mean that that would be a miserable place to
be Monday morning in that office. And whoever wins you
if the Cowboys do the Niners. When the Niners need
the Cowboys say, Okay, take a deep breath. We're gonna
We'll be Okay, we'll be a playoff team. I still
think the Niners because of the division. I think when
the death fields now, they played Tampa in a couple
of weeks, Uh that team, I mean last night, can
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you have a worse moment to lose those two players?
I mean one guy shatters his ankle and the other
guy that's about as bad of a hamstring and Mike Havan.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Is a tough guy. Clearly he that did not look good.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Did it?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No? No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean the injuries are just really starting, I mean
really starting to build up for them. I mean, like
you missed those two guys that's their team, Like wow wow.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
No. I mean those guys are probably combined and I mean,
give or take what do you think twenty touchdowns combined
those two players.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And they're just so good.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean, Mike Evans is unstoppable because of how good
he is, and Godwin being a number two he sent
the virstatile player.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
There's such high level guys.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I mean, the look on Baker's faith because they didn't
reach out the injury. You know, I never even looked,
but obviously then it came out what it was said
it all.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
It was like, man, this is and to lose it
like that, I.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Mean the game was over, even Harball when he was
running out the clock. And listen, I don't blame him
for yanking him out. It's just it's just tough emotionally
to lose a guy. It'd be one thing if it
was a high game. It's part of football, sure, it's
another thing, like you weren't losing that game. That's a
big You've seen their schedule, you know they get the
Falcons this week, then they go to the Chiefs, and
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then they played at forty nine ers. I mean Todd
Bowles and Baker. If they're able to get I mean,
it's all about this week. You beat the Falcons. Even
if you lose the next two weeks, you're okay. But
that game's got a lot more difficult short week with
those injuries.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Is is Sam Donald bumping into his ceiling.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I thought it was pretty good, Doug in the second half.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I mean, I think right before that mispass to Justin
Jefferson he were twelve to thirteen. I thought you played
winning football. They just might not be quite as good
like I think when the dust settles, I believe the
Packers and the Detroit Lions are better, but I also.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Think you could argue Detroit.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I mean, I don't know, one of the best teams
in the NFL, And maybe I'm not a Packer homer,
but I'm a pretty big believer. If they can just
play good football at the right time, they are potent.
So there's nothing wrong with winning ten or eleven games
with Sam Donald quarterback and being in the playoffs where
you know you would get the opportunity, probably because I
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think all three of those teams are making it. The
great part about those matchups is neither team is going
to be intimidated by the other. They're very comfortable playing
each other. You know, if you've got to go to Detroit,
if you're Minnesota, you're a dome team.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
That works out. You know.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Obviously, depending on the seeding, you would have to go
to Green Bay. Obviously both teams would have to win
on the road in the first round. But I think
all three teams, speaking specifically about Minnesota, like remember a
couple of years ago, I think there were twelve or
thirteen wins they lost in the first round of the Giants.
They were kind of fraudulent. They're way left front.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I mean to me, they're a real team. They're good now.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Sam. In these bigger games, the pressure is going to
continue to mount. But I thought, I don't know about you.
I thought it looked pretty good down the stretch.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Of that game.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I did too, But you know, you always get people
that because he hasn't sustained success in the past, think
he won't sustain success this time this time around.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, draft in the three quarterbacks, right, Goff loved him.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
He would clearly be the third guy.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Speaking of it, Jared Goff, is this sustainable?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I mean look at his resume. He's been a good
player for a long long time. And the moment McVeigh
got there and he resurrected his career, it got weird there.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But these last couple of years in Detroit kind of
speaks for themselves. He's he's really a throwback to what we.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Grew up on.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
That player does not really exist anymore in high school
or college football, the unathletic pocket quarterback.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
So you know, in the way this league is, so.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Many teams have good interior pass rushers and good edge rushers.
You have to have a good offensive line, and that
team clearly has one. The other thing that the Lions
have is man they I know, Jamison just got to
spend it for a couple of games, but they got
him who could stretch the field. They got Saint Brown,
which is probably one of it's not the best over
the middle guys.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Laportas have stud how good does Gibbs book in.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
The open field? We know how good Montgomery is. They're
one of the rare teams whose offense has been awesome,
and they have a young offensive coordinator who's not the
head coach and he just has turned down all these jobs, so.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
They have this cohesion.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, they went into San Francisco last year and
hit them, right them.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I mean, what were they up?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
What was the core like twenty to three or twenty
twenty four to seven. I mean they were killing them
and it wasn't you know. Then he went for that
field goal miss and the game kind of flipped or
you know, or he went for it.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Didn't kick the field goal.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But yeah, I think I think they are a problem.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I mean they've been a problem for a while, so
I it would not shock me at all. And how
cool would that.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Be, what a legend Dan Campbell would be if he
got you don't even need to win, if you got
the Detroit Lions to the super Bowl, and I think
they're going to be, you know, sniffing around. I mean
they are sniffing around for help for a pass rusher.
I mean Putterinston had not been hurt, he was just
playing like he was playing. I think they would be
the heavy favorites to win the conference right now.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Any concern over CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I went to the game and look Jordan Love. I
mean he threw three picks and he forced some stuff
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But CJ.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Stroud seem to be seen to be struggling to see
to see it right, to see it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Any costs for concern there?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think I saw stat that of the fourteen third downs,
twelve of them they got pressure.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think Happily had I mean his finest moment so
far in a short pack her career. I mean they
were every time I looked he was on the move,
I mean they were crushing him. I think it also shows,
you know, Nico Collins to them. Honestly, my comp the
player that he had become was kind of Mike Evans,
and he's a huge loss for them. I mean, that's
his go to guys. He's uncoverable because of the size
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and the speed.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I think they benefit.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, he's not I mean playing Its numbers don't look
like last year, and that game was I would imagine
one of the worst.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Statistical games in his career.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
But I'm a pretty big believer in him. Knowing guys
in the Texans what they say about the guy. I
think once Nco comes back, now that Mixon's back, like
to me, the Packers, you know, they were missing players.
I think the Packers are a better team. They're tough
to beat in Lambeau. Honestly, if he doesn't muff the punt,
that's a free touchdown.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
That's the game.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
The Packers should have.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Won by ten points. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Packer's special teams, especially their punt punt coverage was so bad.
The punters awesome, but there their punter terms just every
decision was bad. And multiple guys back that Jen Reid
back there, and he was he was just as bad
as I forget. I mean, the problem with the muff
punt was he didn't feel the punt when he should
have caught it, and then it bounced to hit off
one of his teammates.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Then they put Reid.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Back there and he he catches the punter like the
one yard line going into the end zone, had to
run out, got tackled the four like it was a
comedy of airs. Plus you had the to go minus
three in the turnovers and beat the Texans was honestly
kind of impressive. I'm with you on Mix and I
I like him. I like him a lot. Last thing,
are the Eagles good now?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's all like they had been struggling and feels like
it'd been uncomfortable. Was it's the Giants? It was the
sake On Barkley game, like, are they all good now?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I would maybe I'll feel a little more confident. They
do that to the Bengals. I mean, the Giants were
missing their left tackle. The Eagles, who have struggled to
get pressure all year long, we're constantly in the backfield.
Daniel Jones was atrocious. I mean, it's the Giants with
their injury, they're bad right now. They got no shot. Obviously,
the Eagles came in with Sakon Barkley kind of that
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elephant in the room, and he ran for I mean
he easily could have ran for over two hundred yards.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I'm sure he saw that quip.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
He's like, hey, I'm good, I'm done, and uh yeah,
it was. That's the day where if you're the GM man,
that's first, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It does?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
It does?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (18:12):
Stut Gottlib Show Fox Sports Radio. You know, we all
have things we'd like to change. Change is good, Transition
is hard. But I think that only Dan Bayer has
his own segment on the show in which he really
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takes back things he wished he hadn't bought into.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
We call it buyer's remorse.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
I engage, but.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
There's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Dany b What do you got for buyer's remorse?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, Doug, there's a lot that's on my mind. But
for some reason, I can't get the Jets off of
my because Aaron Rodgers is the one who's been delivering
shattered dreams to the New York Jets fans. And here's
where it just kind of all goes wrong for me.
I thought this team was ready to win the division,
thought that they were going to win the AFC East.
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We weren't expecting much of the Patriots, thought the Dolphins
would take a step back, and who knows what was
going to happen with the Bills. They're kind of a
bit of a roller coaster, although I like the Bills
as a wildcard. Entering the season, I thought the Jets
had what it takes to win the AFC East, and
right now they're sitting there at two and five looking
no different than the team except maybe worse. They're actually
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maybe worse than they were when they were in London
and decided to fire Robert Sala. My faith in the
Jets again continues to be washed away. You know, I'm
not a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, but I thought they'd
win the division. Now at two and five, basically with
the Bills now with a game in hand against them
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in the game that already took place at MetLife Stadium,
So if the Jets THENTO even that out, they have
to win in Buffalo. Gosh, I have buyer's remorse on
any any hope or promise that I had for the
New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Well, listen, I'm I'm with you on the disappointment. I
think a lot of it comes down to the fact
that we didn't see Aaron Rodgers looking old right like.
I think everybody is guilty of that. You just assume
that even if you're not an Aaron Rodgers fan, like, okay, well,
he's always solid, doesn't turn the ball over much, and
just like he just missed some throws.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Now before we before we.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Say hey, they stink it's over now if they lose
to the Patriots this weekend, it is in fact over right,
It's just yes, yeah, I mean, that's that's I can't
lose game. And one of the things we make a
mistake of as football fans is we only look at
things from a one team perspective. The Jets have to
have this game, like, but do you think the Patriots
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aren't gonna their coaches called him soft, Like he's clearly
trying to establish it's his team, his program, his way,
and we'll see what kind of reaction he gets from
his players. Then they have the Texans. I don't think
that's the game they're gonna win. They go to Arizona
take on the Cardinals. Good luck trying to figure that
team out. But two below average teams, but the Cardinals
(21:15):
obviously better at home. But then Colts bye weeks, Seahawks
at home at Dolphins at Jags, Rams at home, before
they go to the Bills and the Dolphins at home.
We don't know to a probably plays this week, but
who knows. My point is, there is a world there
where they still make the playoffs. There's a world there
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where there's still competitive top of the division despite the
fact this has been a terrible start. But the problem
with it is like, this is the team that lost
to the Broncos at home.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I felt bad that.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
I still I'm still hung up on this Sola firing
and that was two weeks ago. Like the Devonte Adams acquisition,
I'm like, well, yeah, you fire Soli Munds.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It go out and get Devonte Adams. But it just made.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
Zero sense, made zero sense for a team that again
that was an Aaron Rodgers interception because he was throwing
it to Mike Williams. And this was before he threw
Mike Williams under the bus. This was a different game
where he tried to throw to Mike Williams and was intercepted.
That's our cluss. They were they were driving against the
Vikings in London with an opportunity to take the lead,
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and felt like this was the opportunity to make a change.
It just doesn't make any sense. And then the people
that you put in those positions. You've now got Todd
Downing in a new spot. Nathaniel Hackett doesn't have any say,
and Jeff Ulbrik is your defensive coordinator. Now he's spread
thin because he's got to be the head coach. So
what does that do? That empowers Aaron Rodgers even more.
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I just don't understand it. Doug Well, the.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Other part too, It is this let's just talk about
the honest psychology of it. Like the defensive players very
likely liked Robert Salla a great deal. Aaron Rodgers pretty
obvious based upon his commentary, didn't think that that Robert
Sala held them accountable. Are is everybody okay with me
saying that that's there in kindaize the run.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
Yeah, could be, I mean hacked this team aiming held
the Patriots to three and what was their final win
so far? Not that holding bow Knicks to ten was anything,
but they lost a ten to nine game. There was
bad weather kept the Vikings somewhat in check. Bills was
a twenty three to twenty game. Defense has done their
part up until this past weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, So with that mind, though, at some point the
defense sits there and goes, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Why we fire Robert Sola?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, yep, And then they go, well, who got Robert
Sala fired? Aaron Rodgers, And now you have a problem
in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Now you have a problem in the field. You're not
going to get the best out of the defense. So
I don't think they're there yet.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I do think you're there if the offense doesn't play
well and they don't beat the Patriots.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
Aaron Rodgers through three interceptions in that game against the Vikings,
the third one ending any hope that they had of
possibly winning the game. He then threw another interception against
the Bills, and then threw two against Pittsburgh this past weekend.
I know Garrett Wilson may be at fault for one
of the interceptions, but still tough to take. I have
one more buyers remorse to pass along.
Speaker 10 (24:13):
Can I add one thing to you?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (24:14):
Sorry one. I think there's a fantasy layer to this.
As a person that took Breece Hall in the first
round of a fantasy draft, of mind, DeVante Adams has
been an absolute disappointment. Aaron Rodgers. If he's your quarterback,
I feel really bad for you. From a fantasy standpoint too.
This was kind of a team that was supposed to
move the ball and score points. Like it's part of
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the buyer's remorse. You have a lot of very frustrated
Fantasy owners around here.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
That is true. You also have a team then, in
their last win against New England, I had a game
where Brayln Allen got eleven carries and Breeze Hall got
sixteen carries. It's a nice, nice split, nice workload. And
since then it's been the Aaron Rodgers throwing the football game.
Braylan Allen has had ten carries combined in the last
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three games. The last game he won, he had eleven.
In the last three games combined, he's had ten. It's
just let's let's have y Let's have Aaron throw it
fifty four times to have them throw it thirty nine times,
all right.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
And one of those one of those touchdowns, by the way,
was that hail Mary to his art.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Wait Fluke, my other piece, Doug is Actually it's not
my remorse. It is a true buyers remorse, b U
y Er, and I am pointing to anybody who paid
for ESPN Plus last night to watch Chargers Cardinals. I
understand if Netflix has the games on Christmas Day. Guess what,
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I want to sign up for Netflix. There's two games.
Because I want to watch those games. I'm signing up
Amazon Prime. I got to sign up to watch Thursday
night football. I get it, peek playoff game. I gotta
sign up. I have no desire to sign up for
ESPN Plus if there's another game on another network, even
though it's within their building, that I could just watch
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on my TV. I understand all of the other streaming
aspects of trying to get people to purchase those streaming
apps or to buy those subscriptions. I don't know anybody
that said to themselves, you know what, it's a seven
to six game at halftime between the Cardinals and Chargers.
I better put my eleven dollars down so I can
watch the second half of that game. You are completely
(26:33):
satisfied by watching Raven's Buccaneers at that point. I didn't
see any added value that you would get if you're
ESPN to have people go to ESPN Plus. The only
people that would do that are Cardinals and Chargers fans
who have the game shown locally on TV anyway, because
of NFL rules, last night's ESPN Plus only broadcast just
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did not make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I agree it made sense to them, right to them.
There's somebody in programming who makes these decisions, and I'm
whoever it is. I would love for somebody to sit
down and go like, here's the real reason we did
it right, here's a real reason we did I don't
know what the answer to that one.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I would any other buyer's remorse. Get that music going again.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Jason, you want to get in on ESPN Plus, which
is an ESPN minus last night?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Let me let me, let me just throw this in here.
Guys Disney. I think it's Disney plus, Hulu and ESPN
Plus as a bundle, and I want to say it's
pretty cheap. I have a feeling they sold a lot
of bundles yesterday, so you could get Hulu and Disney
for a month. I'm just guessing. And if you did
do that, I do want to recommend something a program. Note.
(27:43):
There is a documentary on ESPN Plus right now called
An Uncivil War. It's a documentary about the Dodgers and
Yankees from the seventies. It's an amazing documentary. It'll get
you ready for the World series and it paints Steve
Garvey as an awful human being. I could not recommend
this enough.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Steve Garvey's running for something, isn't he?
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Just Senate? Nothing important?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Is there, like a Barbara Boxer's seat or something like that.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
It's going up against Adam Schiff, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Is that who is the enemy from within? Former Speaker
of the House.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, I mean sorry, I don't know anybody who thinks
that's an acceptable thing to say about an American who's
what running for and going to win a seat in
the Senate. It's gross anyway, what was the remorse over?
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I just don't I don't think that ESPN thought this through.
I just don't know anybody who would have bought that
game last night?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How about this one? Go ahead, go ahead, Chris.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
I saw something and I might just be going crazy,
which is a really possible.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Real good possibility.
Speaker 11 (28:56):
But I saw, like Scott Hansen saying, last night too
was also like a Manning cast red Zone crossover event
that I didn't even know. And I guess the Manning
cast was ESPN Plus only as well.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
I know that was very confused.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
I didn't watch the Manning cast last night, but I
know that they were frustrated because they weren't getting actual
Cardinals Chargers action. They were just getting like bits of
it here and there. They couldn't do their actual stuff
with it. I didn't see it, so I can't comment completely,
but I feel that the streaming aspect is all about
fomo and missing out, and I just don't think that
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it's I don't think that last night you felt you
were missing anything when you could already watch a different game.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So how about this. You might be right that they
didn't think it through, or they might have overthought it.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Maybe that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
More than anything, is they go, well, what if, okay,
wait for it, we just did this one ESPN and
ESPN plus. What if we did just ESPN And somebody's like,
why we do that? Well, we increased in subscriptions ESPN
plus that way, Like really, it's a good idea, second idea,
Jimmy's got an idea. What do you guys think I've
been working on this for days, I hadn't slept in months,
(30:13):
And they're like, yeah, you might do that way, yeah,
or you could just do it the way we've been
doing it the whole time.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's buyer's Remorse.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
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Speaker 1 (30:30):
You guys are peeking out over like middle school, high school.
Listen to this album.
Speaker 11 (30:34):
Well, I think what happened is someone left on and
here in the studio a streaming TV running MTV Classics,
and we came back with Shattered Dreams because Dan came
in here to talk and was just enraptured by the
music video and that LEDD.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Song That's why, because it was a big Johnny Hits jazz. Yeah,
Johnny's Jazz is wonderful.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
And then me and Jason started talking about Violator as
one of the greatest albums of all time.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
So depeche Mode, like depeche Mode made a mark. I
don't know. I mean, I think I was the perfect
age for depeche Mode. The entirety of their popularity was
my high school years. And if you think about it, guys,
you don't love music anymore than you ever did when
you were in high school. So I went to that Rose.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Bowl one igree I disagree.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Are you going to go to college?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I love music more, way more. Now I have way better.
I have so much better taste.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But do you love the.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
Music from high school or do you love music.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I didn't love like I didn't like depeche Mode when
I was in middle in high school.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Now I like depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I didn't like like the hair rock you know, like
now I kind of like it.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Bon Jovi. I wasn't super injury. Remember I was a hooper.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It was all a hip hop rap, and then college
I came around to country right and some classic rock.
My my dad was an old soul so he was
like Sinatra and big band music and jazz and then
a lot of seventies soul stuff. I knew more than
like sixties, seventies, eighties classic rock on. My dad did
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not listen to that, so I didn't have it around
my house. Now I like, especially now with kids like
one daughter country, one daughter metal son rap, and a
little bit of hip hop. So yeah, I like, I
feel like I'm way more well versed and have a
completely open catalog and it's not just one genre, whereas
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when you're young you kind of lock in on one genre.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
I feel like I'll say this, I actually think you're
both right because I think with Jason as saying, like,
there are songs that I remember in high school or
in middle school that still are with me to this day.
You know, you remember exactly where you were, you know
what that reminds, what that song reminds you of. But
to Doug's point, I also think when you're a kid
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and you're listening to a lot of music, you try
to be maybe what's popular, or do what's popopular, or
try to find the new artists and just buy a
bunch of crap, like just just awful CDs, because why not,
That's what we're all doing. And now you have an
appreciation of what is good what isn't. So I think
it both can be right.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Let's get to the press. The press, I was trying
to cut you off the end. I just knew we
had yeah playing this gook ahead.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Jerry Jones, speaking on one O five point three The Fan,
first of all, talked about all the hubbub that his
appearance got last week when he appeared on the Dallas station.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I don't have anythings say about last week. Tell you,
I'm surprised that last week got the attention at God.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Surprised by it.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
And then I know, I don't know if we should
be surprised at Jerry Jones shout it talk.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Why would he be surprised by that.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
I'm not sure, but I'm not surprised that he started
talking about Derreck Henry again and why they didn't sign him.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Derick Henry is having a career year. I don't know
if he'd be having that career year in our situation.
We don't run that type offense at all. Derrick Henry
didn't fit, but cause principally of managing the cap.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I listen, I actually believe him on this. It's a
very different offense cowboy backs. They wanted to catch it
out of the backfield. It's not really what Dereck Henry does.
You know, He's just a downhill Give me the ball
and I need it thirty times a game. And I
do think that the Cap and they have all these
issues that I'm sure that Derek Henry probably want a little.
Hey man, I'm from Dallas, I'm in Dallas. I want
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to feel like I'm a cowboy. Give me a multi
year deal and I'm a star.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
I would say the one thing the one thing that
Jerry doesn't have going for him is that it's not
like they chose someone else that did fit. Sure mean,
they just brought Zeke back who they didn't want the
year prior, and that's so there wasn't like somebody else's
brought in.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yes, but Zeke was a minimum money right.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Yes, but there was also a point where they said
we didn't want him anymore and they let him go
to New England. By the way, Doug NFL network's about
to show Chris Godwin getting injured, so I don't know
if you have your TV on. I do, but hopefully
they blur it out because it was just not the
prettiest of things. The Athletics says the Rams are open
to trading wide receiver Cooper Cup for a second round pick.
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It'd also be willing to take on some of his salary.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
There was there was also an internet rumor that they
were willing to trade Matt Stafford.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Yeah. I don't know the validity the.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Ability of that one, but Athletics saying, Cooper Cup, man, wow,
I mean, he's been so injured, but such a stud
when he is in it, he is healthy.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
Also, I think the Rams are finally realizing like, now,
maybe he is the opportunity for us to kind of
start and start fresh. And I think it took Aaron
Donald's retirement to really do that. He was so dominant
in such a force that you were always seemingly in
it because you had Aaron Donald that center of your defense.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
And now that's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
All Right, Doug, Sixers will be without Joel Embiid and
Paul George for tomorrow's opener against the Bucks.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
It's just like weird, Like why are you starting the
season if you don't have your two best players? Like, hey,
good news, Sixer season starting. Bad news, two best players
not playing. So apparently we're not the only ones not
ready for the start of the NBA season. Sixers not
ready to start in the NBA season.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
Will they play seventy six percent of their games? That's
the question. I don't I don't think it's going to
be that. I don't think that's going to be the case.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
No.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
Juju Watkins in Page Becker's unanimous picks for the Associated
Press preseason All American Women's Hoops team.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Just gonna be fascinating to see how many people watch
women's college basketball without Kaitlyn.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Clark, and finally, Doug Colorado had coach Dean Sanders's two
way star Travis Hunter will play this Saturday against Cincinnati.
Was dinged up last week, didn't play in the second half,
but says that he's got more rest and Hunter should
be good to go against the Bearcats.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I believe he's the best player in college football, but man,
he gets hurt a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
That's the press, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
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I do want to share with you something because it
was a major news story last week. Tony Bennett retired
as head coach in Virginia. I'm the head coach it
wiscons Green Bay, where Tony Bennett starred as a player
(00:57):
and he played for his dad, Dick Bennett. Dick Bennett's
eighty one years old. He was He's been super kind
to me, so much so that last night, he drove
in and we had like a tip off dinner at
a place called The Bar, which is down on Homegrown Way,
which is literally a block from lambeau Field. It's a
half block from the Rest Center where we play most
(01:19):
of our home games, and we just had like it
was like Q and A, but it was really a conversation.
And you know, I didn't I didn't tell him, I
wouldn't ask him. But I didn't tell my would ask him.
I was just gonna kind of let him. You guys
know how to do interviews, just kind of let him talk.
And anyway, he shared with the crowd what he shared
(01:41):
with me and what is real and listen, I totally
understand if you think that there's things that are.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Nefarious at play.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I've read different writers who feel, I feel like they're
disconnected from the realities of college coaching.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think Tony.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Was done probably a year ago, and like some of
it is how the sport has changed and what happens.
What you hear is.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Like, well, you know, coaches hold onto money.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It has nothing to do with just the idea of NIL.
Like I am an opponent of what is happening now
with NIL. I'm not opposed to players getting nil, but
what's happening now is not naming engine likeness.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You understand some of it is, and that stuff is great.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And our players if you play well, like hey player,
the game should have a night at the bar at
wherever you pick a spot in town.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They should be spokespeople for things in town. They should
be supported by it, like that's the idea of it.
But just giving money to a guy to give them
to come to your school, like, that's not a nil.
That's buying players, which used to be and it's so weird.
And then there's the idea that you can just leave
and not have to sit out. There's no penalty for it.
(03:10):
And while you think that's fair, there's no buyouts, there's
no non compete clauses. And so I think it's the
constantly re recruiting your team, constantly being under the pressure
and the scrutiny of having to succeed even though the
landscape has changed dramatically. And if you're a builder, as
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Tony Bennett was a builder, and now it's really hard
to build because you get basically one year that a
new build and a new building a new build. It
gets frustrated and again, he's done it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He's good. So that's why, and why do you do
it now?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So his assistants got to keep their job for one
more year and get a chance to coach, to show
they belong and maybe keep the job. Many coaches, including
Dick Bennett did that when he was at Wisconsin, the
great Dean Smith did that for Bill Guthridge, and of
course Roy Williams did that. Uh did that before he retired.
Hubert Davis got the job. So there's your answer. Let's
(04:08):
get back to talking football. John Mintokoff's our guests. He's
NLFI analyst hosting a three and out podcast. Are the
Ravens that good?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Did?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Was it the matchup of Tampa? Because man, did they
look like the best team in the NFL last night?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
They did.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I would say remember last year Mark Andrews gets injured
with the hip drop tackle and that, you know, was
a big blow to their offense. And their running game
has been really good in the Lamar era, but it's
been full of you see the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Backfield battle right.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I mean, it's like good players, but they currently have
a Hall of Fame guy that somehow looked.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like he's in the peak of his powers.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So you add that player with healthy Mark Andrew likely
to kind of come onto his own. Zay Flowers last
last year was a rookie, and Lamar is really kind
of master his position of being this dual threat guy.
Obviously he dominated last night. Their defense is not as
(05:08):
good as last year from a pass game standpoint, Like
early on in that game, you're like, whoa, this looks
like Oklahoma Baker. Then Evans gets hurt many presses and
then they kind of unravels. But maybe their pass defense
not being as good. What's the team they can't beat
the Chiefs?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Well, the Chiefs passing game is not that good, right.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So you know they are more inclined to me to
just win a tougher game because of the running back
they added, who's proven to be a great playoff player.
So you know, depending on the match up in the playoffs,
that pass defense, now, I would guess they'll be sniffing
around for like a DV type trade or even an
(05:48):
extra pass rusher because historically, like they're cultural a lot
like the Steelers, it ages well, they're just they're going
to improve on that side. But the downfall of them,
let's face it, in the playoffs, has been offensively.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
And I think if Lamar played, This is why I've
bet a bunch of money on them to beat the
Chiefs last year because of Lamar.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I k like, God, if he's playing like he's been playing,
he's gonna win. And then he's kind of resorted back
into not playing as well. But if that guy plays.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Like last night, I mean, we just saw the Chiefs
beat the Diners, which was an impressive win. Was the
final score that game twenty one to twelve or something?
I mean, the Chiefs can't score many points out. Can
they get healthier on offense? Well, the Bills now, Adam
Mauri Cooper, you.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Know the Steelers, I know they look good against the
Jets aren't exactly an offensive juggernaut. The Chargers, if they
win nine or ten games, can't score any points, So
it might it would hurt Hi more in the Super
Bowl if their past defense is the problem. If you're
playing right, the Lions or the Packers, but the way
their offense is humming, it's it's the most dynamic in
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the league, even more than Detroit because the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Can move right.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
If you could get to golf, which is hard because
the offensive line, he has no threat.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
To move around.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, what do
we do with San Francisco As the injuries are just
starting to mount and you're like.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I don't know if this is gonna hunt.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, it's bad. I mean that to me.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
It was such a bad injury with Iyuk because obviously
you lose him for the season, but you know the
reports ACL MCL potentially more damage. So you just keep
your fingers crossed, like the guy could tear their apl
got a young player like him, you wouldn't even think twice.
Then he'll come back full strength. So that's just a
big picture worry. But the McCaffrey thing is, you know,
hovering over their heads. I think what really screws them.
(07:43):
They didn't play well in the Chiefs game. They deserve
to lose that game. But blowing the Arizona game and
blowing the Rams game, they.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Would still be fine.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Right now they're three and four, well, they be fighting two.
They'd have two asses to Minnesota and Kansas City, and
you'd be like, we got to figure out how to
beat the best team, but we've won the games we
were supposed to win. That's what's killing them now. If
you look back at the Kyle Shanahan era, last year
they were coming, they dominated, but the previous two years
when they made the championship game, one year I think
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they started three and four and the other year they
started three and five. So this team has started slow,
but it does look like the you know, they've just
played a lot of games, and you know, you've played
whatever extra two or three games every year now for
three straight years and you don't have well, we've won
a rank, right, so you're still chasing it. I don't
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want to say it's quite the year from hell, but
they definitely feel more even if they because they do.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
They play well in their division.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean, they were up on the Rams double digits,
they were up on the Cardinals double digits. They own
Seattle now that Russell's gone, so that's you know, I
feel confident in those games. But in this week they
get the Cowboys to think about Sunday night, if the
Niners were to lose to this Cowboy team with Jerry
just eviscerating everybody and you know, former Cowboys destroying them
(09:04):
un let's face it, they've looked pretty bad against better
teams that that would be.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
An all time low.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
But this and if the Cowboys lose that game, you're
losing this Niner team. It's out a bunch of injuries.
Whoever loses that game is gonna feel way worse than
they feel right now. And I would say two teams
that have been in the playoffs in this league, you
could argue no one. I mean, they're bad teams that
are one win, but they were most of us thoughts
they were gonna be bad. Whoever is the losers a night,
(09:31):
I mean that that would be a miserable place to
be Monday morning in that office. And whoever wins you
if the Cowboys do the Niners. When the Niners need
the Cowboys say, Okay, take a deep breath. We're gonna
We'll be Okay, we'll be a playoff team. I still
think the Niners because of the division. I think when
the death fields now, they played Tampa in a couple
of weeks, Uh that team, I mean last night, can
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you have a worse moment to lose those two players?
I mean one guy shatters his ankle and the other
guy that's about as bad of a hamstring and Mike Havan.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Is a tough guy. Clearly he that did not look good.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Did it?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No? No, I did not.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I mean the injuries are just really starting, I mean
really starting to build up for them. I mean, like
you missed those two guys that's their team, Like wow wow.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
No. I mean those guys are probably combined and I mean,
give or take what do you think twenty touchdowns combined
those two players.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And they're just so good.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean, Mike Evans is unstoppable because of how good
he is, and Godwin being a number two he sent
the virstatile player.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
There's such high level guys.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I mean, the look on Baker's faith because they didn't
reach out the injury. You know, I never even looked,
but obviously then it came out what it was said
it all.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
It was like, man, this is and to lose it
like that, I.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Mean the game was over, even Harball when he was
running out the clock. And listen, I don't blame him
for yanking him out. It's just it's just tough emotionally
to lose a guy. It'd be one thing if it
was a high game. It's part of football, sure, it's
another thing, like you weren't losing that game. That's a
big You've seen their schedule, you know they get the
Falcons this week, then they go to the Chiefs, and
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then they played at forty nine ers. I mean Todd
Bowles and Baker. If they're able to get I mean,
it's all about this week. You beat the Falcons. Even
if you lose the next two weeks, you're okay. But
that game's got a lot more difficult short week with
those injuries.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Is is Sam Donald bumping into his ceiling.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I thought it was pretty good, Doug in the second half.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I mean, I think right before that mispass to Justin
Jefferson he were twelve to thirteen. I thought you played
winning football. They just might not be quite as good
like I think when the dust settles, I believe the
Packers and the Detroit Lions are better, but I also.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Think you could argue Detroit.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I mean, I don't know, one of the best teams
in the NFL, And maybe I'm not a Packer homer,
but I'm a pretty big believer. If they can just
play good football at the right time, they are potent.
So there's nothing wrong with winning ten or eleven games
with Sam Donald quarterback and being in the playoffs where
you know you would get the opportunity, probably because I
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think all three of those teams are making it. The
great part about those matchups is neither team is going
to be intimidated by the other. They're very comfortable playing
each other. You know, if you've got to go to Detroit,
if you're Minnesota, you're a dome team.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
That works out. You know.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Obviously, depending on the seeding, you would have to go
to Green Bay. Obviously both teams would have to win
on the road in the first round. But I think
all three teams, speaking specifically about Minnesota, like remember a
couple of years ago, I think there were twelve or
thirteen wins they lost in the first round of the Giants.
They were kind of fraudulent. They're way left front.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I mean to me, they're a real team. They're good now.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Sam. In these bigger games, the pressure is going to
continue to mount. But I thought, I don't know about you.
I thought it looked pretty good down the stretch.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Of that game.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I did too, But you know, you always get people
that because he hasn't sustained success in the past, think
he won't sustain success this time this time around.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, draft in the three quarterbacks, right, Goff loved him.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
He would clearly be the third guy.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Speaking of it, Jared Goff, is this sustainable?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I mean look at his resume. He's been a good
player for a long long time. And the moment McVeigh
got there and he resurrected his career, it got weird there.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
At the end.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But these last couple of years in Detroit kind of
speaks for themselves. He's he's really a throwback to what we.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Grew up on.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
That player does not really exist anymore in high school
or college football, the unathletic pocket quarterback.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
So you know, in the way this league is, so.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Many teams have good interior pass rushers and good edge rushers.
You have to have a good offensive line, and that
team clearly has one. The other thing that the Lions
have is man they I know, Jamison just got to
spend it for a couple of games, but they got
him who could stretch the field. They got Saint Brown,
which is probably one of it's not the best over
the middle guys.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Laportas have stud how good does Gibbs book in.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
The open field? We know how good Montgomery is. They're
one of the rare teams whose offense has been awesome,
and they have a young offensive coordinator who's not the
head coach and he just has turned down all these jobs, so.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
They have this cohesion.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean, they went into San Francisco last year and
hit them, right them.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I mean, what were they up?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
What was the core like twenty to three or twenty
twenty four to seven. I mean they were killing them
and it wasn't you know. Then he went for that
field goal miss and the game kind of flipped or
you know, or he went for it.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Didn't kick the field goal.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But yeah, I think I think they are a problem.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I mean they've been a problem for a while, so
I it would not shock me at all. And how
cool would that.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Be, what a legend Dan Campbell would be if he
got you don't even need to win, if you got
the Detroit Lions to the super Bowl, and I think
they're going to be, you know, sniffing around. I mean
they are sniffing around for help for a pass rusher.
I mean Putterinston had not been hurt, he was just
playing like he was playing. I think they would be
the heavy favorites to win the conference right now.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Any concern over CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I went to the game and look Jordan Love. I
mean he threw three picks and he forced some stuff
as well.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
But CJ.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Stroud seem to be seen to be struggling to see
to see it right, to see it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Any costs for concern there?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think I saw stat that of the fourteen third downs,
twelve of them they got pressure.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I think Happily had I mean his finest moment so
far in a short pack her career. I mean they
were every time I looked he was on the move,
I mean they were crushing him. I think it also shows,
you know, Nico Collins to them. Honestly, my comp the
player that he had become was kind of Mike Evans,
and he's a huge loss for them. I mean, that's
his go to guys. He's uncoverable because of the size
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and the speed.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I think they benefit.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, he's not I mean playing Its numbers don't look
like last year, and that game was I would imagine
one of the worst.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Statistical games in his career.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
But I'm a pretty big believer in him. Knowing guys
in the Texans what they say about the guy. I
think once Nco comes back, now that Mixon's back, like
to me, the Packers, you know, they were missing players.
I think the Packers are a better team. They're tough
to beat in Lambeau. Honestly, if he doesn't muff the punt,
that's a free touchdown.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
That's the game.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
The Packers should have.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Won by ten points. Right.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Packer's special teams, especially their punt punt coverage was so bad.
The punters awesome, but there their punter terms just every
decision was bad. And multiple guys back that Jen Reid
back there, and he was he was just as bad
as I forget. I mean, the problem with the muff
punt was he didn't feel the punt when he should
have caught it, and then it bounced to hit off
one of his teammates.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Then they put Reid.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Back there and he he catches the punter like the
one yard line going into the end zone, had to
run out, got tackled the four like it was a
comedy of airs. Plus you had the to go minus
three in the turnovers and beat the Texans was honestly
kind of impressive. I'm with you on Mix and I
I like him. I like him a lot. Last thing,
are the Eagles good now?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's all like they had been struggling and feels like
it'd been uncomfortable. Was it's the Giants? It was the
sake On Barkley game, like, are they all good now?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I would maybe I'll feel a little more confident. They
do that to the Bengals. I mean, the Giants were
missing their left tackle. The Eagles, who have struggled to
get pressure all year long, we're constantly in the backfield.
Daniel Jones was atrocious. I mean, it's the Giants with
their injury, they're bad right now. They got no shot. Obviously,
the Eagles came in with Sakon Barkley kind of that
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elephant in the room, and he ran for I mean
he easily could have ran for over two hundred yards.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I'm sure he saw that quip.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
He's like, hey, I'm good, I'm done, and uh yeah,
it was. That's the day where if you're the GM man,
that's first, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It does?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
It does?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
John Minikoff three and now is the podcast John great
stuff man. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
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Speaker 1 (18:12):
Stut Gottlib Show Fox Sports Radio. You know, we all
have things we'd like to change. Change is good, Transition
is hard. But I think that only Dan Bayer has
his own segment on the show in which he really
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takes back things he wished he hadn't bought into.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
We call it buyer's remorse.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
I engage, but.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
There's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Dany b What do you got for buyer's remorse?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, Doug, there's a lot that's on my mind. But
for some reason, I can't get the Jets off of
my because Aaron Rodgers is the one who's been delivering
shattered dreams to the New York Jets fans. And here's
where it just kind of all goes wrong for me.
I thought this team was ready to win the division,
thought that they were going to win the AFC East.
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We weren't expecting much of the Patriots, thought the Dolphins
would take a step back, and who knows what was
going to happen with the Bills. They're kind of a
bit of a roller coaster, although I like the Bills
as a wildcard. Entering the season, I thought the Jets
had what it takes to win the AFC East, and
right now they're sitting there at two and five looking
no different than the team except maybe worse. They're actually
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maybe worse than they were when they were in London
and decided to fire Robert Sala. My faith in the
Jets again continues to be washed away. You know, I'm
not a huge Aaron Rodgers fan, but I thought they'd
win the division. Now at two and five, basically with
the Bills now with a game in hand against them
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in the game that already took place at MetLife Stadium,
So if the Jets THENTO even that out, they have
to win in Buffalo. Gosh, I have buyer's remorse on
any any hope or promise that I had for the
New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Well, listen, I'm I'm with you on the disappointment. I
think a lot of it comes down to the fact
that we didn't see Aaron Rodgers looking old right like.
I think everybody is guilty of that. You just assume
that even if you're not an Aaron Rodgers fan, like, okay, well,
he's always solid, doesn't turn the ball over much, and
just like he just missed some throws.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Now before we before we.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Say hey, they stink it's over now if they lose
to the Patriots this weekend, it is in fact over right,
It's just yes, yeah, I mean, that's that's I can't
lose game. And one of the things we make a
mistake of as football fans is we only look at
things from a one team perspective. The Jets have to
have this game, like, but do you think the Patriots
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aren't gonna their coaches called him soft, Like he's clearly
trying to establish it's his team, his program, his way,
and we'll see what kind of reaction he gets from
his players. Then they have the Texans. I don't think
that's the game they're gonna win. They go to Arizona
take on the Cardinals. Good luck trying to figure that
team out. But two below average teams, but the Cardinals
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obviously better at home. But then Colts bye weeks, Seahawks
at home at Dolphins at Jags, Rams at home, before
they go to the Bills and the Dolphins at home.
We don't know to a probably plays this week, but
who knows. My point is, there is a world there
where they still make the playoffs. There's a world there
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where there's still competitive top of the division despite the
fact this has been a terrible start. But the problem
with it is like, this is the team that lost
to the Broncos at home.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I felt bad that.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
I still I'm still hung up on this Sola firing
and that was two weeks ago. Like the Devonte Adams acquisition,
I'm like, well, yeah, you fire Soli Munds.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It go out and get Devonte Adams. But it just made.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
Zero sense, made zero sense for a team that again
that was an Aaron Rodgers interception because he was throwing
it to Mike Williams. And this was before he threw
Mike Williams under the bus. This was a different game
where he tried to throw to Mike Williams and was intercepted.
That's our cluss. They were they were driving against the
Vikings in London with an opportunity to take the lead,
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and felt like this was the opportunity to make a change.
It just doesn't make any sense. And then the people
that you put in those positions. You've now got Todd
Downing in a new spot. Nathaniel Hackett doesn't have any say,
and Jeff Ulbrik is your defensive coordinator. Now he's spread
thin because he's got to be the head coach. So
what does that do? That empowers Aaron Rodgers even more.
(22:43):
I just don't understand it. Doug Well, the.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Other part too, It is this let's just talk about
the honest psychology of it. Like the defensive players very
likely liked Robert Salla a great deal. Aaron Rodgers pretty
obvious based upon his commentary, didn't think that that Robert
Sala held them accountable. Are is everybody okay with me
saying that that's there in kindaize the run.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
Yeah, could be, I mean hacked this team aiming held
the Patriots to three and what was their final win
so far? Not that holding bow Knicks to ten was anything,
but they lost a ten to nine game. There was
bad weather kept the Vikings somewhat in check. Bills was
a twenty three to twenty game. Defense has done their
part up until this past weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, So with that mind, though, at some point the
defense sits there and goes, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Why we fire Robert Sola?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, yep, And then they go, well, who got Robert
Sala fired? Aaron Rodgers, And now you have a problem
in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Now you have a problem in the field. You're not
going to get the best out of the defense. So
I don't think they're there yet.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I do think you're there if the offense doesn't play
well and they don't beat the Patriots.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
Aaron Rodgers through three interceptions in that game against the Vikings,
the third one ending any hope that they had of
possibly winning the game. He then threw another interception against
the Bills, and then threw two against Pittsburgh this past weekend.
I know Garrett Wilson may be at fault for one
of the interceptions, but still tough to take. I have
one more buyers remorse to pass along.
Speaker 10 (24:13):
Can I add one thing to you?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (24:14):
Sorry one. I think there's a fantasy layer to this.
As a person that took Breece Hall in the first
round of a fantasy draft, of mind, DeVante Adams has
been an absolute disappointment. Aaron Rodgers. If he's your quarterback,
I feel really bad for you. From a fantasy standpoint too.
This was kind of a team that was supposed to
move the ball and score points. Like it's part of
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the buyer's remorse. You have a lot of very frustrated
Fantasy owners around here.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
That is true. You also have a team then, in
their last win against New England, I had a game
where Brayln Allen got eleven carries and Breeze Hall got
sixteen carries. It's a nice, nice split, nice workload. And
since then it's been the Aaron Rodgers throwing the football game.
Braylan Allen has had ten carries combined in the last
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three games. The last game he won, he had eleven.
In the last three games combined, he's had ten. It's
just let's let's have y Let's have Aaron throw it
fifty four times to have them throw it thirty nine times,
all right.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
And one of those one of those touchdowns, by the way,
was that hail Mary to his art.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Wait Fluke, my other piece, Doug is Actually it's not
my remorse. It is a true buyers remorse, b U
y Er, and I am pointing to anybody who paid
for ESPN Plus last night to watch Chargers Cardinals. I
understand if Netflix has the games on Christmas Day. Guess what,
(25:50):
I want to sign up for Netflix. There's two games.
Because I want to watch those games. I'm signing up
Amazon Prime. I got to sign up to watch Thursday
night football. I get it, peek playoff game. I gotta
sign up. I have no desire to sign up for
ESPN Plus if there's another game on another network, even
though it's within their building, that I could just watch
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on my TV. I understand all of the other streaming
aspects of trying to get people to purchase those streaming
apps or to buy those subscriptions. I don't know anybody
that said to themselves, you know what, it's a seven
to six game at halftime between the Cardinals and Chargers.
I better put my eleven dollars down so I can
watch the second half of that game. You are completely
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satisfied by watching Raven's Buccaneers at that point. I didn't
see any added value that you would get if you're
ESPN to have people go to ESPN Plus. The only
people that would do that are Cardinals and Chargers fans
who have the game shown locally on TV anyway, because
of NFL rules, last night's ESPN Plus only broadcast just
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did not make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I agree it made sense to them, right to them.
There's somebody in programming who makes these decisions, and I'm
whoever it is. I would love for somebody to sit
down and go like, here's the real reason we did
it right, here's a real reason we did I don't
know what the answer to that one.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I would any other buyer's remorse. Get that music going again.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Jason, you want to get in on ESPN Plus, which
is an ESPN minus last night?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Let me let me, let me just throw this in here.
Guys Disney. I think it's Disney plus, Hulu and ESPN
Plus as a bundle, and I want to say it's
pretty cheap. I have a feeling they sold a lot
of bundles yesterday, so you could get Hulu and Disney
for a month. I'm just guessing. And if you did
do that, I do want to recommend something a program. Note.
(27:43):
There is a documentary on ESPN Plus right now called
An Uncivil War. It's a documentary about the Dodgers and
Yankees from the seventies. It's an amazing documentary. It'll get
you ready for the World series and it paints Steve
Garvey as an awful human being. I could not recommend
this enough.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Steve Garvey's running for something, isn't he?
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Just Senate? Nothing important?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Is there, like a Barbara Boxer's seat or something like that.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
It's going up against Adam Schiff, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Is that who is the enemy from within? Former Speaker
of the House.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, I mean sorry, I don't know anybody who thinks
that's an acceptable thing to say about an American who's
what running for and going to win a seat in
the Senate. It's gross anyway, what was the remorse over?
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I just don't I don't think that ESPN thought this through.
I just don't know anybody who would have bought that
game last night?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How about this one? Go ahead, go ahead, Chris.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
I saw something and I might just be going crazy,
which is a really possible.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Real good possibility.
Speaker 11 (28:56):
But I saw, like Scott Hansen saying, last night too
was also like a Manning cast red Zone crossover event
that I didn't even know. And I guess the Manning
cast was ESPN Plus only as well.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
I know that was very confused.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
I didn't watch the Manning cast last night, but I
know that they were frustrated because they weren't getting actual
Cardinals Chargers action. They were just getting like bits of
it here and there. They couldn't do their actual stuff
with it. I didn't see it, so I can't comment completely,
but I feel that the streaming aspect is all about
fomo and missing out, and I just don't think that
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it's I don't think that last night you felt you
were missing anything when you could already watch a different game.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So how about this. You might be right that they
didn't think it through, or they might have overthought it.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Maybe that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
More than anything, is they go, well, what if, okay,
wait for it, we just did this one ESPN and
ESPN plus. What if we did just ESPN And somebody's like,
why we do that? Well, we increased in subscriptions ESPN
plus that way, Like really, it's a good idea, second idea,
Jimmy's got an idea. What do you guys think I've
been working on this for days, I hadn't slept in months,
(30:13):
And they're like, yeah, you might do that way, yeah,
or you could just do it the way we've been
doing it the whole time.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's buyer's Remorse.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
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Speaker 1 (30:30):
You guys are peeking out over like middle school, high school.
Listen to this album.
Speaker 11 (30:34):
Well, I think what happened is someone left on and
here in the studio a streaming TV running MTV Classics,
and we came back with Shattered Dreams because Dan came
in here to talk and was just enraptured by the
music video and that LEDD.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Song That's why, because it was a big Johnny Hits jazz. Yeah,
Johnny's Jazz is wonderful.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
And then me and Jason started talking about Violator as
one of the greatest albums of all time.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
So depeche Mode, like depeche Mode made a mark. I
don't know. I mean, I think I was the perfect
age for depeche Mode. The entirety of their popularity was
my high school years. And if you think about it, guys,
you don't love music anymore than you ever did when
you were in high school. So I went to that Rose.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Bowl one igree I disagree.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Are you going to go to college?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I love music more, way more. Now I have way better.
I have so much better taste.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But do you love the.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
Music from high school or do you love music.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I didn't love like I didn't like depeche Mode when
I was in middle in high school.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Now I like depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I didn't like like the hair rock you know, like
now I kind of like it.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Bon Jovi. I wasn't super injury. Remember I was a hooper.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It was all a hip hop rap, and then college
I came around to country right and some classic rock.
My my dad was an old soul so he was
like Sinatra and big band music and jazz and then
a lot of seventies soul stuff. I knew more than
like sixties, seventies, eighties classic rock on. My dad did
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not listen to that, so I didn't have it around
my house. Now I like, especially now with kids like
one daughter country, one daughter metal son rap, and a
little bit of hip hop. So yeah, I like, I
feel like I'm way more well versed and have a
completely open catalog and it's not just one genre, whereas
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when you're young you kind of lock in on one genre.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
I feel like I'll say this, I actually think you're
both right because I think with Jason as saying, like,
there are songs that I remember in high school or
in middle school that still are with me to this day.
You know, you remember exactly where you were, you know
what that reminds, what that song reminds you of. But
to Doug's point, I also think when you're a kid
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and you're listening to a lot of music, you try
to be maybe what's popular, or do what's popopular, or
try to find the new artists and just buy a
bunch of crap, like just just awful CDs, because why not,
That's what we're all doing. And now you have an
appreciation of what is good what isn't. So I think
it both can be right.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Let's get to the press. The press, I was trying
to cut you off the end. I just knew we
had yeah playing this gook ahead.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Jerry Jones, speaking on one O five point three The Fan,
first of all, talked about all the hubbub that his
appearance got last week when he appeared on the Dallas station.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I don't have anythings say about last week. Tell you,
I'm surprised that last week got the attention at God.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Surprised by it.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
And then I know, I don't know if we should
be surprised at Jerry Jones shout it talk.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Why would he be surprised by that.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
I'm not sure, but I'm not surprised that he started
talking about Derreck Henry again and why they didn't sign him.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Derick Henry is having a career year. I don't know
if he'd be having that career year in our situation.
We don't run that type offense at all. Derrick Henry
didn't fit, but cause principally of managing the cap.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I listen, I actually believe him on this. It's a
very different offense cowboy backs. They wanted to catch it
out of the backfield. It's not really what Dereck Henry does.
You know, He's just a downhill Give me the ball
and I need it thirty times a game. And I
do think that the Cap and they have all these
issues that I'm sure that Derek Henry probably want a little.
Hey man, I'm from Dallas, I'm in Dallas. I want
(34:33):
to feel like I'm a cowboy. Give me a multi
year deal and I'm a star.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
I would say the one thing the one thing that
Jerry doesn't have going for him is that it's not
like they chose someone else that did fit. Sure mean,
they just brought Zeke back who they didn't want the
year prior, and that's so there wasn't like somebody else's
brought in.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yes, but Zeke was a minimum money right.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Yes, but there was also a point where they said
we didn't want him anymore and they let him go
to New England. By the way, Doug NFL network's about
to show Chris Godwin getting injured, so I don't know
if you have your TV on. I do, but hopefully
they blur it out because it was just not the
prettiest of things. The Athletics says the Rams are open
to trading wide receiver Cooper Cup for a second round pick.
(35:15):
It'd also be willing to take on some of his salary.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
There was there was also an internet rumor that they
were willing to trade Matt Stafford.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Yeah. I don't know the validity the.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Ability of that one, but Athletics saying, Cooper Cup, man, wow,
I mean, he's been so injured, but such a stud
when he is in it, he is healthy.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
Also, I think the Rams are finally realizing like, now,
maybe he is the opportunity for us to kind of
start and start fresh. And I think it took Aaron
Donald's retirement to really do that. He was so dominant
in such a force that you were always seemingly in
it because you had Aaron Donald that center of your defense.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
And now that's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
All Right, Doug, Sixers will be without Joel Embiid and
Paul George for tomorrow's opener against the Bucks.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
It's just like weird, Like why are you starting the
season if you don't have your two best players? Like, hey,
good news, Sixer season starting. Bad news, two best players
not playing. So apparently we're not the only ones not
ready for the start of the NBA season. Sixers not
ready to start in the NBA season.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
Will they play seventy six percent of their games? That's
the question. I don't I don't think it's going to
be that. I don't think that's going to be the case.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
No.
Speaker 9 (36:28):
Juju Watkins in Page Becker's unanimous picks for the Associated
Press preseason All American Women's Hoops team.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Just gonna be fascinating to see how many people watch
women's college basketball without Kaitlyn.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Clark, and finally, Doug Colorado had coach Dean Sanders's two
way star Travis Hunter will play this Saturday against Cincinnati.
Was dinged up last week, didn't play in the second half,
but says that he's got more rest and Hunter should
be good to go against the Bearcats.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I believe he's the best player in college football, but man,
he gets hurt a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
That's the press, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Enjoy the the NBA season. I think the Timberwls and
the Knicks both win tonight. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show.
This is Fox Sport Radio.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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