October 30, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug explains why the Dodgers' decision to seemingly give away game four could come back to haunt them. Doug and the crew discuss the incident involving Mookie Betts and the Yankees' fans. Doug welcomes MLB analyst and former big league outfielder Jeff Francoeur to talk about the World Series. Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "For Better or Worse?".
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should be Yes, Luca don chick at a game winner. Yes, uh,
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Jokich was incredible last night. Yes, there's other things to
talk about, but we got a World Series that people
actually care about, and apparently we made the decision as
a sports world to okay, the fact we're gonna have
another game. That's because the Yankees won was at eleven
to four last nights that would have ended up being
last night. We end up being a blowout, but it's
a relatively close game and of course the Dodgers. If
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you look at some of the personnel late in the game,
You're like, I'm not sure how much they wanted to
win that game or really grind it out, although there
were opportunities for them to win that game. And there's
a lot to that discussion I want to get to
first though. Here's Aaron Boone, who was the Victoria's manager
last night. I what really impressed him about his team.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Our guys were ready to play. Obviously a lot of
really good at bats, you know, Volpi with a big blow,
but like you said, the bottom of the order, Vulpy, Wells,
Verdugo all with really good bat at bats, and then
just a nice job of tacking on there. You know,
I was allowed me to get Weave out of there.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, so look they tacked on a bunch in the
bottom of the eighth inning. Here is Dave Roberts on
his pitching strategy.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Knowing obviously choice number one is to win tonight. But
since that didn't happen. I don't mean this to sound
flipp did this outcome in terms of pitching playout as
well as absolutely?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Absolutely. I don't don't think anyone expected those guys to
lay down, and we had some at bats that I
thought could have been better, but we knew it as
a bullpen game, and you know, as far as outcomes
to have, you know, six guys in your pen that
are feeling good rested. I feel good about that and
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being up three to one. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So hey, we're up three to one and Aaron Judge
still not really hitting all they had to hit last night.
By the way, something historic happened last night. Freddy Freeman
hit yet another home run. So four World Series games,
four home runs for Freddy Freeman, go back to his
last two with Atlanta, six in a row. Here's Freddy
Freeman on that streak.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Pre surprise Fane, they're adding today, Bye, Thankees, I'm not
surprised they're in the World Series there. You know, they're
one of the best teams in this game. So we
knew what we were We're gonna be tasked with tonight.
They just had their bats going today. So hopefully Jack
down and we score more runs than them.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Jack jack Clarty, of course he'll start tonight at the stadium.
No panic in the voice of Jason Stewart. He's sitting
there nodding as if he's baseball Stradamus, knowing that this
was in fact the plant. The issue becomes and look,
Judge didn't get it going. The top of the lineup
really didn't get it going. But my only fear with
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the Dodgers is you had some misplayed plays in the
field and that can become contagious. It was mostly Gavin Lux,
but it can become contagious. And you know, winning is
so difficult that I don't want to say they gave
away a game, but it felt like they gave away
a game and felt I got that big a deal.
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Like okay, because if you lose tonight, now you go
back to LA and make no mistake about the pressure
is squarely on the Dodgers now. The Dodgers have played
well under pressure. Go back to the Padres season when
there's Padres the series when their backs are against the wall.
But I do you just want Baseball is not really
a momentum sport, but that one if there was momentum
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halted theirs halted Theirs and you can act as if like, ah,
not that big a deal, but it's still it's the
series could be over now. So Jase, do I know
you feel still feel good? I just wonder and you
know the last thing you want is Aaron Judge to
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get his timing, to stop trying to pull everything and
to hit one out of the yard. And now all
of a sudden it becomes becomes kind of an onslaught.
But again, as of now, Dodger's still very much in
prime position. Your level of confidence is what Jase do.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
I'm actually supremely confident that we're going to win the series,
but as as always, I'm going to have my share
of issues. You know, when Dave Roberts and the collective
that runs the Dodgers decides that these bullpen games in
the postseason are going to be we're gonna try it
out and if it goes south quickly, then we're gonna
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run some guys out there just to kill innings. Interesting
strategy for a team that over the last ten years
has had the knack for not coming up when we
need them to come up the best. In other words,
they usually come up short in the postseason. So it's
really risky for Dave Roberts and company to take these risks.
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Last night, they obviously punted. They punted during the Padre series,
and they punted during the met series. Whenever you see
this guy Knack and Honeywell in the game. That means
that the Dodgers are trying to not win, and that's
a real scary proposition. And then don't get me started
on Gavin Wocks. He keeps making these mistakes. Some guys
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just aren't caught up for high leverage baseball, and maybe
Gavin's the one guy in the lineup that we should
replace because he keeps making mistakes. He gets bad jumps night.
He basically gave the Yankees that beginning with a couple
of defensive mistakes. But yeah, I have my issues, but
ultimately I think we're gonna win at Game six on
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Fernando's birthday. I'm gonna hang onto that prediction. I love predictions.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I know you hate actual predictions, but you've been big
on that prediction. But I mean, you don't want that
series going back to LA like that is not that
is suboptimal. I know they've played under a tremendous amount
of stress previously. I understand that, But you don't want that,
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do you?
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I mean, like really, I mean the baseball fanom me
would love to see more baseball, sure, and it's it
would be cool because we couldn't celebrate in twenty twenty,
that COVID Tournament championship, we had to celebrate in Texas,
and I want to say in eighty eight we celebrated
in Oakland. So to celebrate a World Series title at
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home for the first time and how forty some odd yours,
that would.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Be cool, Okay, But my point is more the pressure element,
and as I said before, like they have shown the
ability to play incredibly well under that level of stress
and pressure previously. But I don't think you want. I
don't think that's something you want to welcome you. I
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just I just don't. It's all it takes is it's baseball.
It's not like hockey, where you know, one slapshot can
ricochet off five things and then suddenly go into the net.
But it is as much as the series series hasn't
been close, there's a way in which you're like, okay,
well show Hayes banged up and he's not hitting, and
you know it. It doesn't take much. It doesn't take much.
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On the other hand, the gentleman sweep is very much alive,
and one more game doesn't hurt anybody. Everybody just gets
rich off of it and it'll be fascinating to see
if the Dodgers can because closing out the Yankees, those
twenty seven outs feel like thirty five just does. Rapid
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game without talk about the two Yankees fans. Now, you
may have heard from Dan Byer in our update that
they're not allowed to attend the game tonight, right, But
why are they allowed to attend games? Period? It's not
like they just reached over And we'll talk about this
later on the show. And did the Bartman like dude
was literally trying to take the ball out of Mookie
Bett's glove And I'm sure I haven't looked. I don't know.
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It feels like the barstoolization of a That's what it
feels like like you come to a game. I'm not
against bringing your glove I'm just not. I always I've
never caught a foul ball, so I totally understand you
want to catch a foul ball and like they come
in eye and hot, you want to don't want to
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catch one in your hands? Okay, probably now I would.
I would do. I don't have a baseball mit that
I take to games, but I'm not going to criticize
all guys for having a mitt. But if the ball
is if you're in the World Series and the ball
is caught by one of the players on either team
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taking the ball out of his mitt and being a
dB about it, that like, what are you doing? And
I've heard people go like, not that big a deal,
Yes it is. It's all about precedence. If you allow
that to happen, then what don't you allow to have happened?
I can't. I just can't believe Cowhard, for example, had
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no issue with it. What are you talking about? This
is what fans have become super entitled, obnoxious and they
think everything belongs to them, Like, dude, everyone else came
to see a baseball game. Mookie Bets made the play
and oh yeah, by the way, there's a world there
where Mooki Bets catches the out, shows it to the
umpire and flips you the ball. But ripping a ball
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from a guy's glove, what are you doing.
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Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So we talked
a little bit about it before the break. Major League
Baseball had those two fans banned tonight with refunds. Why
they refund their money? Sorry dude, sorry, come back to Connecticut.
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Here's Mooky Betts. After the game talked about the incident
with the Yankees fan fly right by Torres that's in
the corner. Does he have room fights.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
With a fan and they're gonna say that it's out
and fan interference?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, fan interference. It wasn't fan interference though, like it
wasn't the what was the guy's name the kid named
Jeffrey Mayer, right, Jeffrey Mayor. In that Oriole series, that
was a game changer that that changed the rules of baseball.
We saw the Dodger fan reach what would have been
over the proverbial line and what should have been a
double was ended up being called a double. But this
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one like once if like MOOKI goes after the ball,
you get out of the way and then he tries
to rip the ball out of his hands, not surprised
at all, and I just we have reached a place
and I'm not old man, get off my lawn, okay,
but we haven't reached a place where we have honestly,
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like we're just as responsible for it. In in sports radio,
our radio show doesn't do it. Fox Sports Radio. I
don't think Buying Large does it. But whether it's local
radio guy or some of these other entities, you know,
it's I say, it's like the barstoolization of sports, like
the barstool guys, Pig Cat's good dude, you know, uh
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uh with PFT commentators give there's a good guy, Like
those are good guys. But the it's it's a little
bit like something else we're saying where it's the people
that you welcome in to just being complete dbs if
you know what I mean, and just do whatever you
want just because you want to do it. Like no,
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there's a certain way in which as a fan you
don't have the right to throw bottles on people. You
don't have the right to rip the ball out of
a guy's hand. No one came to see you. You're
not some great Yankee fan because you're doing the Yankees
a service. You just look like a clown. It's no
more or less clownish than people getting these fistfights at
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NFL games or college football like most of the NFL games,
you know, and this is every got time you've been
to the Yankee stadium. Look, it's not a one to
one ratio. It's probably a three to one of good
solid fans too. But dude, there's definitely some some guys
there that take it a little too seriously. My guess
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is that guy's also a Knicks fan, a Ranger fan,
a Syracuse fan, and a Jet fan. That's my guess.
What do you think, Buyer? Did I nail it?
Speaker 10 (13:41):
L You probably nailed it on the teams and the fandoms.
The thing that I just really can't get past, aside
from the guy trying to rip the ball out, was
his buddy who grabbed Mookie Betts's arm like it's one
thing to try to rip the ball out of a glove,
which is absurd. I completely agree with you. The other
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guy with him physically grabs his wrist could have caused
injury in either of those scenarios, But the second guy,
to me, is much worse. And to your point about
how this is being glorified, ESPN does this piece on
finding the fan and he's smiling and he's with his
five buddies, and how in the world is this okay?
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All of the instances that you mentioned the Dodgers fan
Jeffrey Mayher, they were going for the ball, none of
them made physical contact that was meant to make physical
contact with any of those players, And it's just crazy
to me that this is just man. Remember in that
Yankee game, this absolutely crossed the line last night?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Is this a reason aren't they? Broadcasters and the broadcast
told to never show streakers, never show fans running on
the field and getting tackled because and I think the
reason the essence for that is they don't want to
show fans that if they do this, they're going to
get attention. So the way the broadcasts handled those guys
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last night, the way ESPN handled them today, and then
the Yankees' first inclination was to allow them back into
the game. They only ban them from tonight's game at
the at major League Baseball's behest. So the Yankees more
or less signed off on it too. But isn't this
just going to show fans that you can get your
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fifteen minutes of fame as well if you touch players?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (15:41):
Yes, and this wasn't just touching a player Like I
had a real problem with just the aggression that these
two guys showed, where you're taking someone's excuse me, taking
someone's hand and ripping it open to take the ball away.
I just I found it to be a violation. I
was really disgusted by it.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, Austin Capo Bianco, he said a story. He told
the ESPN, if it's in our ear, we're gonna d up.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
Yeah, hey dude, we're patrolling. We patrol these decks.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like hey Austin, Hey, Austin, dude, you couldn't get on
a field. You couldn't get on a field, period. Shut up.
You sound like the dumbest idiot that is known to mankind.
And there's plenty of idiots that are there. You're the
guy that everybody makes fun of when they talk about
the New York fan. You're the guy that called in
the mic and you we need to get rid of
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we need to get rid of everybody, everybody when they
lost games one through three, Ay, you're that guy. A
you're that guy. You're that guy. And again like the
Yankees not doing something about it. I give you again.
I shared with this with you guys for the last
week and a half. I went to the Texans Packers game. Now,
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the difference in that one Joe Mixon tried to do
the Lambeau lei because they were a Texan fan right there,
and then he got blocked and somebody dumped a beer
and they actually took the guy out who dumped the
beer on him. Now he snuck back in, he was
back in his seat. But my thing there was like
I actually didn't my first of all, it's a beer, Like,
come on, man, it's not. It was a hot, warm
day getting a deer beer dumped to his other and
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he was going into the stands. There was no football
action for it, right, he was just going to the
stands to celebrate, and like, dude, Joe, what are you doing?
I know you people have done the lambeau leap as visitors,
but this is not a smart move. But if there's
a ball near this. You're going for a football or
you're going for a baseball, like that's the sport. You're
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just a fan. You're a fan. You don't matter. Sorry,
this is the And again I know Jason, you love
your Dodgers. This is what real athletes think of guys
that say we like we and did you come ever practice?
You come every game right like nonet we. You're not
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a member of the Yankees. You're a Yankee fan. You
paid for your jersey, which is not yours. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
If the Yankees make history and they come all the
way back from being down three.
Speaker 10 (18:19):
To zero, here's to be celebrated.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yes, it all changed when these guys attack Mookie Betts
and they're going to celebrate it and glorify it. And
again in bolden other fans in other sports due to
the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's gross. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're on
Fox Sports Radio. And as the Major League Baseball season
continues on, like could have had our last game last night,
instead could be tonight. Uh, let's welcome in from Turner Sports.
Jeff frank Corr of course, longtime Major League Baseball Offit
are twelve years in the Biggs course. He's here on
behalf of Pure Athlete. They're helping families navigate the world
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and check out Pure Athlete podcast. Before we get to
just last night, what's your reaction to the Dodgers kind
of overall dominance in this series.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Let me tell you, first of all, thanks for having
me on. You know, I've called what nineteen twenty one
the playoffs for the Dodger and I've always felt like
it's a team that obviously was full of superstars, but
they were more Hollywood. I always felt like watching them
like it wasn't like let's grind it out. And I
was telling someone last week, man, watching this Dodger team,
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this is a gritty team, Like this is what you want, right,
Like Otani running with his arms, sitting here up on
the thing. Freddie has been hurt, Tommy Edman, you talk
about a gamer, man Like, this is a completely different
Dodgers team than we're used to. And it has been
so fun to watch their discipline. It's like great defense,
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they hit and you know, Doc's doing an unbelievable job
it's been incredible to watch.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Okay, I mean, speaking of Atlanta, I mean, how do
you how do you explain, first of all, why do
they keep coming inside to Freddie? Like? Why how many
times are they gonna come into Freddie? I thought the
worst one was was Game one, Like you bringing a
guy who hasn't pitched for a month. Fine, but lefty
lefty matchups, why wouldn't everything be breaking away from him?
Like that's the whole idea of a lefty lefty matchup.
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I don't even I don't know. I definitely don't understand
the pitch selection, let alone the location.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
But that's a great thing. That's what makes Freddy so
good is his ability to go the other way, but
his ability to pull the hands. And if you start
trying to show that you're gonna beat him in, they'll
just pull his hands. And like we've seen, he's gone
it the last two nights in the Yankee Stadium. And
he's such a smart hitter that he's got the ability
to do that. He's talented enough. You know, it's first
a bat that night, you know, or one of the
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first few at bats of that game one, he shot
a triple down the left field line, like just inside out,
so he's so tough to pitch, and I think it's
just funny. You know, Freddy's been injured a lot, man,
I know he hasn't had the usual Freddie Freeman year,
and I think this is I think this is his
way to remind everybody that I'm still pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah. No, he's still really, really, really really good. You know,
last night it did feel like the Dodgers kind of
waved the white flag. But I guess the question becomes,
does this create momentum for the Yankees.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
I don't think so. I'm laugh so hard, man. I've
been listening to all the stations today all over the place,
and I was so glad to get to talk to
you to just express look, at the end of the day,
the Dodgers and all intense purposes. I'm not taking anything
away from the Yankees, but those guys hit it all.
Three of the lowest leverage guys the Dodgers have. And
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you know, the only way Dave was going for the
kill shot last night was that they got to the fifth,
sixth inning and they had to lead otherwise. This was
the game plan from day one, the whole time, and
so I looked at it as more of like, you
know what, man, they they they threw all their low
leverage You can say what you want. People were making
the deal that Luke Weaver, you know, is didn't get
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thrown anymore than he had to do. He's still throwing
two days in a row for an inning and third yesterday.
Like the Yankees, their way to win tonight is they
have to have Garrett cole go seven plus innings and
only use Tommy Kinley and Phil and Luke Weaver like that.
That is their way to win. And the Dodgers, on
the other hand, have so many more ways. Like people
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are talking about Jack Flarry. Let me tell you Jack Flair.
To gives him four innings, he can go to Graderol,
go to Brazier, go to trying and like he Vessie,
he's got a loaded end. So I mean, it's gonna
be tough sledding for the Yankee tonight. But you know
the way I look at it, those bottom tight hitters
on the Yankees, they have not hit the good elite
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pitching for the Dodgers yet. Who did they hit it
off last night? Again the low leverage guy. So someone
in that lineup's gonna have to hit off one of
the real good guys. And I mean I again, I
still look at it like Dave was only going for
the kill shot if it lined up, and Boltie kind
of ruined that.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
What's going on with Judge?
Speaker 9 (23:10):
You know what, man, he's full happy? I mean, I
mean it truly is. I know it's hard to say,
but he is swinging and stuff that we never see
him swing at. You know, I can't. I did at
least ten of the Yankees Tuesday night games this year,
and the pitches he's swinging now he would take, he'd
take and he'd get a two zero count of three
one count, he'd take his walk. And I think, like anything,
when you hear time after time you haven't been able
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to get the job done, you haven't done this. I
just think he's trying, and he's swinging outside the zone.
He's swinging in pitches that he usually doesn't and that's
not Aaron Judge. But I don't care how good you are,
how many MVPs you got, You're not immune to criticism
and the ability to feel like I got to come through.
And I think it's you're seeing a superstar, you know, stress.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Showy show, Hey, we don't obviously what twenty five at
bats since hitting home run and now you have the
shoulder at least to blame. But how viable do you
think he is tonight? And if this thing goes forward,
that the matter is.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
I heard Dave Roberts say it the other day when
they're asking him during the game about show Hay in
Game three, and it's like fifty percent of show heyes,
better than one hundred percent of someone else. And I
remember Bobby Cox used to tell me that with Chipper
Jones all the time, like just go stand there, you're
gonna walk twice. And I believe that, like, if Otani
goes up there tonight, he's gonna just walk twice if
he doesn't swing. And look what happened in game in
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Game three and four. You know, he got on base
and Freddie Freeman hit the home run, and so you know,
look he's not healthy. He's drinding it out. But again,
that's a difference in this Dodgers team. Man, that's been
fun to watch is the guys written it out. They're
playing hard, they're playing hurd and that's that's not what
I've seen in the past from the Dodgers. But what
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I've seen this year.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Stug Ott Leave show here on Fox Sports, what was
the impetus behind you? You're getting involved to your athlete.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Again. I got four kids and the ability to help
families utilize and really make great memories and understand the
process of what this is. And the cool thing for
us is, you know, we had a good talk last time,
but like we're kind of getting to where you're dividing
it into like the developmental stage right where you're fixed
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to ten eleven years old, then kind of more serious
in the middle school, and then of course like an
all in stage when you get to high school. If
you want to come play college, if you want to
try to get drafted, if you want that. You know,
we're trying to give parents to balance to do that.
You know a lot of parents tell me the same thing.
I got four kids. You can't go all in on
one kid and not give your other three kids a chance.
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And so how do you balance that? How do you
balance home life, how do you balance having the life
going to the pool, hanging with your buddies, and how
do you balance when it's time to push your kids
to really let them realize their potential. I think, you know,
so many athletes, so many things we've done, we're learning
along the way. But I just think it's something that
needs to be talked about because U's four tab gotten
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crazy and it's it's the dynamic of it. I think
it's just given pair to an outlet, a lane to
kind of come and listen to stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You know. It's it's really interesting being on this side
of it, Jeff, is that we got a commitment from
a player earlier this week, and I know he's a
higher level than where he's been recruited at outside of US,
and I believe that the reason he wasn't as highly
recruited as others at a similar skill level was he's
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actually loyal to his AU program, playing the same AU program.
He didn't he didn't go to a shoe program. They
really never left the state and so it's great for us,
but I definitely think we would have had to fight
off a lot of other big ones and it's like
it almost kind of I guess, sort of punished as
a kid, although I think regardless of the size, like
he's a perfect fit for what we want. But it's interesting, right,
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It's like do it do I leave my boys behind,
do I not how much should I be spending? I
mean that the cost is just obscene and at some
point also that there's a there's a realness to where
you need want to grab a parent and go like, look,
I don't care how much you spend on him, Like
he and a player. You know, there's a doubt you
can have fifteen trainers and a psychologist and a strength
and nutritionist or whenever, like he just ain't good enough.
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It's that that would be interesting if you guys had
a reality coach, like, hey, just listen, Johnny's good at
a lot of things in life. Baseball's not way okay.
Speaker 9 (27:34):
Man, I'm having a parent meeting with my softball team tonight. Man,
I coach my daughter eleven year old softball team, and
they're all in sixth grade now, and I'm like, look,
if you don't throw strikes, I'm pulling you out of
the game. It's not personal, doesn't mean I don't love you.
It doesn't mean you're not going to get another opportunity.
But they're at the stage now right where it's like
I got to push him a little bit. If they're
getting ready for the high school level, I got to
(27:55):
start to push a little bit. Does it Does it
mean it's like you're never playing again? You're their pitching.
But I'm not going to make those girls sit in
the outfield and sit in the infield while a girl
walked six seven, seven batters two years ago. We had
more leeway for it, right, you had more rope for it.
But have they developed? It goes and like you said,
this person that you have coming, you know what, maybe
they could have been more highly recruited. But at the
(28:16):
same time, you know what, if he continues to do
what he does, whether it's the whole time at year school,
whatever happens at the end of the day, if you're
good enough, you know as well as I do. Those
pro scouts they don't miss they're not going to miss talent,
and he will have every opportunity. And so, you know what,
but he got to play with his buddies, man, And
like I did that. I was not highly highly thought
(28:38):
of in Baseball America until going into my senior year
when I played with Team USA because I went to
Cuba for three weeks. I raked and I did this,
and I came home and I was the sixth best
player in the country. If you go look my junior year, Man,
I wasn't on the top one hundred list because I
didn't go to any of these any of these showcases.
But I knew eventually, man, I was going to get
(28:59):
my sho And when I did, I knew that I
would ball out. And that's what my dad always told me.
He's like, you played with your buddies, and then going
into your senior year, we said, you know what, it's
time to go all in. And so we went to
Missouri for the USA trials and I went and did this,
and I just think kids now try to go all
in too soon, and that's where I think it gets dangerous.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, well, I'm with you this. It's a great service
that you're providing for so many. We'll see how many
get involved. Remember it's Pure Athlete Inc. On Instagram. You
can check out the Pure Athlete podcast. He's Jeff Rankcore.
You see him on on Turner Sports and of course
coaching an eleven eleven U softball team as well. Jeff,
you're the best, man, Get up to the bay and
let's let's come see a game.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
I'd love to Man, I'll be up there self, all.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Right, no, no problem. Jeff Chah by Way, Jeff's uncle
as our golf coach, so pretty pretty cool stud stud guy.
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Speaker 8 (30:38):
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Speaker 10 (30:44):
For the record, when I was young, five, six, seven
years old, I collected Star Wars figurines. I had the
Darth Vader collector case. I wore Star Wars under ruse. Yeah,
all that stuff. So I was I was down. I
just ended up kind of growing out of it. That's
(31:06):
that's all it was. So there's there's no shame in
Star Wars. There's no shame in the animated game of Simpsons. Obviously,
such a such a fabric of our generation family guy,
all those. I did like South Park for a while,
but I haven't watched it recently. But I've just never
(31:28):
been biding that animated stuff so very good. But anyway,
now back to my.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'm more teasing me, like I just I I grew
up to. I don't want to grow up. I'm a
toys r us. Kids chose not to grow up.
Speaker 10 (31:42):
There is something magical about the toy store or the
toy aisle now in stores.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You know what I never want I always wanted to do.
You know, people would get those like you get like
a five minute toy run where you just get a
grocery card. That's my dream. Yeah, shopping street. I don't
know anyone ever happened to. It was like a couple
of kids that Nickelodeon would get it. I just I'm
forever jealous.
Speaker 10 (32:05):
No, I agree with that all right. The game today
is for better or worse. What Doug tells us, what
is better or what is worse? For better or worse?
Doug New York fans versus Philadelphia fans.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
New York fans of Philadelphia fans.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
Who's better or worse?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Push push push?
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, Nick Wick, there you go. Somebody remembers as.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
For better or worse dog Jamis wins I would say,
I would I honestly, they're the worst, all of.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Them, all of them. You wrap in like Maryland basketball fans,
just Eastern Seaboard, like all of you. Anyway, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (32:57):
That's all right. For better or worse Jamis Winston's career
or Marcus Mariota's career. Oh wow, each has a heisman?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Do we have to do? We have to take into
account the off the field?
Speaker 10 (33:17):
I you could, but there's something to that.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I would say, didn't Jamis to James win the national championship?
Speaker 10 (33:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, I would say Jameis.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
And Marcus Mariota lost theirs.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, and then that's that's part of it. That's part
of it. And I would also say that, Okay, so
part of it is he want to actual championship, and
you know how it ended in Atlanta with Mariota just
bailing from the team, or as Jamis has kind of
accepted the role of being a backup and now still
(33:50):
has has new life like that that part to it,
whether it's this part three or Part four, five point
zero whatever. Jamis also better than Mariota. I'll go I'm
gonna go Jammes.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
Mariota's thrown for sixteen thousand yards in his career ninety
five touchdowns. Jamis has thrown for twenty two hundred twenty
two thousand yards in his career one hundred and forty
five touchdowns. The uh For some reason, I can't get
my compare up on Pro Football Reference, but the Mariota
(34:21):
was the quarterback when the Titans made their their run
to the AFC Championship game. I believe, at least I
know that they beat the Chiefs in a playoff game.
Jamis Winston hasn't had that success all right. For better
or worse, Joe Flaco versus Matt Ryan, both both wearing
the horseshoe late in their career.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, Matt Ryan went MVP. Joe Flaco won a Super Bowl.
I'm gonna go Flaco.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
Okay, better Flaco better than Ryan.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
For career, I mean career. I'm like again, I think
Matt Ryan was probably a little bit better player, but
I mean he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
M hm, So yeah, for better worse. And this is
the Hail Mary category, the fail Mary versus the Hail Maryland.
That's what they're calling the Commander's play, the Mary.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Fail Mary was worse. Fail Mary was worse. I'm what
a joke in the end zone there? Like that was?
That was a debacle. I know you're a Seahawks fan.
What was a debacle?
Speaker 10 (35:21):
It's a good call, you know, this fifty to fifty
possession or not. And of course the replacement refs were
made that such a such a big part of the
conversation because any full time ref would have called that
an interception. However, as a Seahawks fan sitting at home
watching that game, and I'm saying to myself, oh, geez,
(35:42):
shared possession, and I think that's what the part time
ref thought as well. Ty goes the runner, tie goes
to the offense. What do we like, guys? Do we
like the hale Mary wind or is there another name
that we could give that I heard calm bomb earlier
in the week. I like Hail Maryland, Maryland. Yeah, it's
(36:04):
really good. I'm not sold on Jason's is it? Fred Vp?
Is that what it is?
Speaker 9 (36:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I made that up. Yeah, I'm trying to get it.
What do you call it? I'm trying to get it.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
What about m m V free? Would that be a
better alternative?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Wasn't somebody else already? V MB three?
Speaker 7 (36:22):
This is m V free but MV free? Yeah, that's awesome,
fred VP. I'm trying to get that copy written. We'll
give it a shot, all right. For better or worse,
doug ut for the Big Ten? When Penn State's winning,
versus when Nebraska is winning? What's better for the Big Ten?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I think when Nebraska is winning, I think it's it's
not a worse for for Penn State. But it's like
you need some first of all, like Nebraska is historic power.
It's a completely different kind of market. You know they were.
They're also part you know, whether or not they're the
West now with the true West schools, like that whole
(37:04):
side was kind of set up for them to succeed
because there you don't have me. Remember that, you didn't
have Michigan and Penn State and Ohio State all you know,
you had Iowa came out from it and Wisconsin and
whatever like, Nebraska should be a power there. The league
needs Nebraska and USC to be back as powers.
Speaker 10 (37:22):
All right. Final one for better or worse. When we're
ordering at Eskimo Joe's on Monday and Still Water, Oklahoma,
the chili cheese fries versus the sweet pepper bacon cheese fries.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Sweet pepper bacon cheese fries. Order that six days a week,
twice on Sunday.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
If you want to join us, two o'clock.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Jumping Joint, Jumping juke Joint. Also, some of my friends
might be there, might be the jumping jew joint as well.
We can jump up and down, jump up, jump up,
jump round. But yeah, two we'll be there starting it
before one shoot round ends at noon. I'll walk over
Min's all walking distance from Gallagher I's game.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
By the way, that's.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay. And by the way, buyer, did you see Oklahoma
State's throwback uniforms for the weekend?
Speaker 10 (38:12):
Holy Caw.
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Jokich was incredible last night. Yes, there's other things to
talk about, but we got a World Series that people
actually care about, and apparently we made the decision as
a sports world to okay, the fact we're gonna have
another game. That's because the Yankees won was at eleven
to four last nights that would have ended up being
last night. We end up being a blowout, but it's
a relatively close game and of course the Dodgers. If
(01:00):
you look at some of the personnel late in the game,
You're like, I'm not sure how much they wanted to
win that game or really grind it out, although there
were opportunities for them to win that game. And there's
a lot to that discussion I want to get to
first though. Here's Aaron Boone, who was the Victoria's manager
last night. I what really impressed him about his team.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Our guys were ready to play. Obviously a lot of
really good at bats, you know, Volpi with a big blow,
but like you said, the bottom of the order, Vulpy, Wells,
Verdugo all with really good bat at bats, and then
just a nice job of tacking on there. You know,
I was allowed me to get Weave out of there.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, so look they tacked on a bunch in the
bottom of the eighth inning. Here is Dave Roberts on
his pitching strategy.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Knowing obviously choice number one is to win tonight. But
since that didn't happen. I don't mean this to sound
flipp did this outcome in terms of pitching playout as
well as absolutely?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Absolutely. I don't don't think anyone expected those guys to
lay down, and we had some at bats that I
thought could have been better, but we knew it as
a bullpen game, and you know, as far as outcomes
to have, you know, six guys in your pen that
are feeling good rested. I feel good about that and
(02:20):
being up three to one. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So hey, we're up three to one and Aaron Judge
still not really hitting all they had to hit last night.
By the way, something historic happened last night. Freddy Freeman
hit yet another home run. So four World Series games,
four home runs for Freddy Freeman, go back to his
last two with Atlanta, six in a row. Here's Freddy
Freeman on that streak.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Pre surprise Fane, they're adding today, Bye, Thankees, I'm not
surprised they're in the World Series there. You know, they're
one of the best teams in this game. So we
knew what we were We're gonna be tasked with tonight.
They just had their bats going today. So hopefully Jack
down and we score more runs than them.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Jack jack Clarty, of course he'll start tonight at the stadium.
No panic in the voice of Jason Stewart. He's sitting
there nodding as if he's baseball Stradamus, knowing that this
was in fact the plant. The issue becomes and look,
Judge didn't get it going. The top of the lineup
really didn't get it going. But my only fear with
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the Dodgers is you had some misplayed plays in the
field and that can become contagious. It was mostly Gavin Lux,
but it can become contagious. And you know, winning is
so difficult that I don't want to say they gave
away a game, but it felt like they gave away
a game and felt I got that big a deal.
(03:43):
Like okay, because if you lose tonight, now you go
back to LA and make no mistake about the pressure
is squarely on the Dodgers now. The Dodgers have played
well under pressure. Go back to the Padres season when
there's Padres the series when their backs are against the wall.
But I do you just want Baseball is not really
a momentum sport, but that one if there was momentum
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halted theirs halted Theirs and you can act as if like, ah,
not that big a deal, but it's still it's the
series could be over now. So Jase, do I know
you feel still feel good? I just wonder and you
know the last thing you want is Aaron Judge to
(04:27):
get his timing, to stop trying to pull everything and
to hit one out of the yard. And now all
of a sudden it becomes becomes kind of an onslaught.
But again, as of now, Dodger's still very much in
prime position. Your level of confidence is what Jase do.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
I'm actually supremely confident that we're going to win the series,
but as as always, I'm going to have my share
of issues. You know, when Dave Roberts and the collective
that runs the Dodgers decides that these bullpen games in
the postseason are going to be we're gonna try it
out and if it goes south quickly, then we're gonna
(05:04):
run some guys out there just to kill innings. Interesting
strategy for a team that over the last ten years
has had the knack for not coming up when we
need them to come up the best. In other words,
they usually come up short in the postseason. So it's
really risky for Dave Roberts and company to take these risks.
(05:27):
Last night, they obviously punted. They punted during the Padre series,
and they punted during the met series. Whenever you see
this guy Knack and Honeywell in the game. That means
that the Dodgers are trying to not win, and that's
a real scary proposition. And then don't get me started
on Gavin Wocks. He keeps making these mistakes. Some guys
(05:49):
just aren't caught up for high leverage baseball, and maybe
Gavin's the one guy in the lineup that we should
replace because he keeps making mistakes. He gets bad jumps night.
He basically gave the Yankees that beginning with a couple
of defensive mistakes. But yeah, I have my issues, but
ultimately I think we're gonna win at Game six on
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Fernando's birthday. I'm gonna hang onto that prediction. I love predictions.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I know you hate actual predictions, but you've been big
on that prediction. But I mean, you don't want that
series going back to LA like that is not that
is suboptimal. I know they've played under a tremendous amount
of stress previously. I understand that, But you don't want that,
(06:35):
do you?
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I mean, like really, I mean the baseball fanom me
would love to see more baseball, sure, and it's it
would be cool because we couldn't celebrate in twenty twenty,
that COVID Tournament championship, we had to celebrate in Texas,
and I want to say in eighty eight we celebrated
in Oakland. So to celebrate a World Series title at
(06:57):
home for the first time and how forty some odd yours,
that would.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Be cool, Okay, But my point is more the pressure element,
and as I said before, like they have shown the
ability to play incredibly well under that level of stress
and pressure previously. But I don't think you want. I
don't think that's something you want to welcome you. I
(07:24):
just I just don't. It's all it takes is it's baseball.
It's not like hockey, where you know, one slapshot can
ricochet off five things and then suddenly go into the net.
But it is as much as the series series hasn't
been close, there's a way in which you're like, okay,
well show Hayes banged up and he's not hitting, and
you know it. It doesn't take much. It doesn't take much.
(07:49):
On the other hand, the gentleman sweep is very much alive,
and one more game doesn't hurt anybody. Everybody just gets
rich off of it and it'll be fascinating to see
if the Dodgers can because closing out the Yankees, those
twenty seven outs feel like thirty five just does. Rapid
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(08:31):
game without talk about the two Yankees fans. Now, you
may have heard from Dan Byer in our update that
they're not allowed to attend the game tonight, right, But
why are they allowed to attend games? Period? It's not
like they just reached over And we'll talk about this
later on the show. And did the Bartman like dude
was literally trying to take the ball out of Mookie
Bett's glove And I'm sure I haven't looked. I don't know.
(08:57):
It feels like the barstoolization of a That's what it
feels like like you come to a game. I'm not
against bringing your glove I'm just not. I always I've
never caught a foul ball, so I totally understand you
want to catch a foul ball and like they come
in eye and hot, you want to don't want to
(09:17):
catch one in your hands? Okay, probably now I would.
I would do. I don't have a baseball mit that
I take to games, but I'm not going to criticize
all guys for having a mitt. But if the ball
is if you're in the World Series and the ball
is caught by one of the players on either team
(09:38):
taking the ball out of his mitt and being a
dB about it, that like, what are you doing? And
I've heard people go like, not that big a deal,
Yes it is. It's all about precedence. If you allow
that to happen, then what don't you allow to have happened?
I can't. I just can't believe Cowhard, for example, had
(10:01):
no issue with it. What are you talking about? This
is what fans have become super entitled, obnoxious and they
think everything belongs to them, Like, dude, everyone else came
to see a baseball game. Mookie Bets made the play
and oh yeah, by the way, there's a world there
where Mooki Bets catches the out, shows it to the
umpire and flips you the ball. But ripping a ball
(10:21):
from a guy's glove, what are you doing.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
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Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So we talked
a little bit about it before the break. Major League
Baseball had those two fans banned tonight with refunds. Why
they refund their money? Sorry dude, sorry, come back to Connecticut.
(10:58):
Here's Mooky Betts. After the game talked about the incident
with the Yankees fan fly right by Torres that's in
the corner. Does he have room fights.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
With a fan and they're gonna say that it's out
and fan interference?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, fan interference. It wasn't fan interference though, like it
wasn't the what was the guy's name the kid named
Jeffrey Mayer, right, Jeffrey Mayor. In that Oriole series, that
was a game changer that that changed the rules of baseball.
We saw the Dodger fan reach what would have been
over the proverbial line and what should have been a
double was ended up being called a double. But this
(11:39):
one like once if like MOOKI goes after the ball,
you get out of the way and then he tries
to rip the ball out of his hands, not surprised
at all, and I just we have reached a place
and I'm not old man, get off my lawn, okay,
but we haven't reached a place where we have honestly,
(12:00):
like we're just as responsible for it. In in sports radio,
our radio show doesn't do it. Fox Sports Radio. I
don't think Buying Large does it. But whether it's local
radio guy or some of these other entities, you know,
it's I say, it's like the barstoolization of sports, like
the barstool guys, Pig Cat's good dude, you know, uh
(12:22):
uh with PFT commentators give there's a good guy, Like
those are good guys. But the it's it's a little
bit like something else we're saying where it's the people
that you welcome in to just being complete dbs if
you know what I mean, and just do whatever you
want just because you want to do it. Like no,
(12:43):
there's a certain way in which as a fan you
don't have the right to throw bottles on people. You
don't have the right to rip the ball out of
a guy's hand. No one came to see you. You're
not some great Yankee fan because you're doing the Yankees
a service. You just look like a clown. It's no
more or less clownish than people getting these fistfights at
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NFL games or college football like most of the NFL games,
you know, and this is every got time you've been
to the Yankee stadium. Look, it's not a one to
one ratio. It's probably a three to one of good
solid fans too. But dude, there's definitely some some guys
there that take it a little too seriously. My guess
(13:29):
is that guy's also a Knicks fan, a Ranger fan,
a Syracuse fan, and a Jet fan. That's my guess.
What do you think, Buyer? Did I nail it?
Speaker 10 (13:41):
L You probably nailed it on the teams and the fandoms.
The thing that I just really can't get past, aside
from the guy trying to rip the ball out, was
his buddy who grabbed Mookie Betts's arm like it's one
thing to try to rip the ball out of a glove,
which is absurd. I completely agree with you. The other
(14:04):
guy with him physically grabs his wrist could have caused
injury in either of those scenarios, But the second guy,
to me, is much worse. And to your point about
how this is being glorified, ESPN does this piece on
finding the fan and he's smiling and he's with his
five buddies, and how in the world is this okay?
(14:28):
All of the instances that you mentioned the Dodgers fan
Jeffrey Mayher, they were going for the ball, none of
them made physical contact that was meant to make physical
contact with any of those players, And it's just crazy
to me that this is just man. Remember in that
Yankee game, this absolutely crossed the line last night?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Is this a reason aren't they? Broadcasters and the broadcast
told to never show streakers, never show fans running on
the field and getting tackled because and I think the
reason the essence for that is they don't want to
show fans that if they do this, they're going to
get attention. So the way the broadcasts handled those guys
(15:13):
last night, the way ESPN handled them today, and then
the Yankees' first inclination was to allow them back into
the game. They only ban them from tonight's game at
the at major League Baseball's behest. So the Yankees more
or less signed off on it too. But isn't this
just going to show fans that you can get your
(15:35):
fifteen minutes of fame as well if you touch players?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (15:41):
Yes, and this wasn't just touching a player Like I
had a real problem with just the aggression that these
two guys showed, where you're taking someone's excuse me, taking
someone's hand and ripping it open to take the ball away.
I just I found it to be a violation. I
was really disgusted by it.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, Austin Capo Bianco, he said a story. He told
the ESPN, if it's in our ear, we're gonna d up.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
Yeah, hey dude, we're patrolling. We patrol these decks.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like hey Austin, Hey, Austin, dude, you couldn't get on
a field. You couldn't get on a field, period. Shut up.
You sound like the dumbest idiot that is known to mankind.
And there's plenty of idiots that are there. You're the
guy that everybody makes fun of when they talk about
the New York fan. You're the guy that called in
the mic and you we need to get rid of
(16:32):
we need to get rid of everybody, everybody when they
lost games one through three, Ay, you're that guy. A
you're that guy. You're that guy. And again like the
Yankees not doing something about it. I give you again.
I shared with this with you guys for the last
week and a half. I went to the Texans Packers game. Now,
(16:57):
the difference in that one Joe Mixon tried to do
the Lambeau lei because they were a Texan fan right there,
and then he got blocked and somebody dumped a beer
and they actually took the guy out who dumped the
beer on him. Now he snuck back in, he was
back in his seat. But my thing there was like
I actually didn't my first of all, it's a beer, Like,
come on, man, it's not. It was a hot, warm
day getting a deer beer dumped to his other and
(17:18):
he was going into the stands. There was no football
action for it, right, he was just going to the
stands to celebrate, and like, dude, Joe, what are you doing?
I know you people have done the lambeau leap as visitors,
but this is not a smart move. But if there's
a ball near this. You're going for a football or
you're going for a baseball, like that's the sport. You're
(17:39):
just a fan. You're a fan. You don't matter. Sorry,
this is the And again I know Jason, you love
your Dodgers. This is what real athletes think of guys
that say we like we and did you come ever practice?
You come every game right like nonet we. You're not
(18:03):
a member of the Yankees. You're a Yankee fan. You
paid for your jersey, which is not yours. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
If the Yankees make history and they come all the
way back from being down three.
Speaker 10 (18:19):
To zero, here's to be celebrated.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yes, it all changed when these guys attack Mookie Betts
and they're going to celebrate it and glorify it. And
again in bolden other fans in other sports due to
the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's gross. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're on
Fox Sports Radio. And as the Major League Baseball season
continues on, like could have had our last game last night,
instead could be tonight. Uh, let's welcome in from Turner Sports.
Jeff frank Corr of course, longtime Major League Baseball Offit
are twelve years in the Biggs course. He's here on
behalf of Pure Athlete. They're helping families navigate the world
(18:53):
of youth sports. Follow them at Pure Athlete Inc. On Instagram,
and check out Pure Athlete podcast. Before we get to
just last night, what's your reaction to the Dodgers kind
of overall dominance in this series.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Let me tell you, first of all, thanks for having
me on. You know, I've called what nineteen twenty one
the playoffs for the Dodger and I've always felt like
it's a team that obviously was full of superstars, but
they were more Hollywood. I always felt like watching them
like it wasn't like let's grind it out. And I
was telling someone last week, man, watching this Dodger team,
(19:31):
this is a gritty team, Like this is what you want, right,
Like Otani running with his arms, sitting here up on
the thing. Freddie has been hurt, Tommy Edman, you talk
about a gamer, man Like, this is a completely different
Dodgers team than we're used to. And it has been
so fun to watch their discipline. It's like great defense,
(19:52):
they hit and you know, Doc's doing an unbelievable job
it's been incredible to watch.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Okay, I mean, speaking of Atlanta, I mean, how do
you how do you explain, first of all, why do
they keep coming inside to Freddie? Like? Why how many
times are they gonna come into Freddie? I thought the
worst one was was Game one, Like you bringing a
guy who hasn't pitched for a month. Fine, but lefty
lefty matchups, why wouldn't everything be breaking away from him?
Like that's the whole idea of a lefty lefty matchup.
(20:21):
I don't even I don't know. I definitely don't understand
the pitch selection, let alone the location.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
But that's a great thing. That's what makes Freddy so
good is his ability to go the other way, but
his ability to pull the hands. And if you start
trying to show that you're gonna beat him in, they'll
just pull his hands. And like we've seen, he's gone
it the last two nights in the Yankee Stadium. And
he's such a smart hitter that he's got the ability
to do that. He's talented enough. You know, it's first
a bat that night, you know, or one of the
(20:50):
first few at bats of that game one, he shot
a triple down the left field line, like just inside out,
so he's so tough to pitch, and I think it's
just funny. You know, Freddy's been injured a lot, man,
I know he hasn't had the usual Freddie Freeman year,
and I think this is I think this is his
way to remind everybody that I'm still pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah. No, he's still really, really, really really good. You know,
last night it did feel like the Dodgers kind of
waved the white flag. But I guess the question becomes,
does this create momentum for the Yankees.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
I don't think so. I'm laugh so hard, man. I've
been listening to all the stations today all over the place,
and I was so glad to get to talk to
you to just express look, at the end of the day,
the Dodgers and all intense purposes. I'm not taking anything
away from the Yankees, but those guys hit it all.
Three of the lowest leverage guys the Dodgers have. And
(21:46):
you know, the only way Dave was going for the
kill shot last night was that they got to the fifth,
sixth inning and they had to lead otherwise. This was
the game plan from day one, the whole time, and
so I looked at it as more of like, you
know what, man, they they they threw all their low
leverage You can say what you want. People were making
the deal that Luke Weaver, you know, is didn't get
(22:07):
thrown anymore than he had to do. He's still throwing
two days in a row for an inning and third yesterday.
Like the Yankees, their way to win tonight is they
have to have Garrett cole go seven plus innings and
only use Tommy Kinley and Phil and Luke Weaver like that.
That is their way to win. And the Dodgers, on
the other hand, have so many more ways. Like people
(22:29):
are talking about Jack Flarry. Let me tell you Jack Flair.
To gives him four innings, he can go to Graderol,
go to Brazier, go to trying and like he Vessie,
he's got a loaded end. So I mean, it's gonna
be tough sledding for the Yankee tonight. But you know
the way I look at it, those bottom tight hitters
on the Yankees, they have not hit the good elite
(22:50):
pitching for the Dodgers yet. Who did they hit it
off last night? Again the low leverage guy. So someone
in that lineup's gonna have to hit off one of
the real good guys. And I mean I again, I
still look at it like Dave was only going for
the kill shot if it lined up, and Boltie kind
of ruined that.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
What's going on with Judge?
Speaker 9 (23:10):
You know what, man, he's full happy? I mean, I
mean it truly is. I know it's hard to say,
but he is swinging and stuff that we never see
him swing at. You know, I can't. I did at
least ten of the Yankees Tuesday night games this year,
and the pitches he's swinging now he would take, he'd
take and he'd get a two zero count of three
one count, he'd take his walk. And I think, like anything,
when you hear time after time you haven't been able
(23:32):
to get the job done, you haven't done this. I
just think he's trying, and he's swinging outside the zone.
He's swinging in pitches that he usually doesn't and that's
not Aaron Judge. But I don't care how good you are,
how many MVPs you got, You're not immune to criticism
and the ability to feel like I got to come through.
And I think it's you're seeing a superstar, you know, stress.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Showy show, Hey, we don't obviously what twenty five at
bats since hitting home run and now you have the
shoulder at least to blame. But how viable do you
think he is tonight? And if this thing goes forward,
that the matter is.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
I heard Dave Roberts say it the other day when
they're asking him during the game about show Hay in
Game three, and it's like fifty percent of show heyes,
better than one hundred percent of someone else. And I
remember Bobby Cox used to tell me that with Chipper
Jones all the time, like just go stand there, you're
gonna walk twice. And I believe that, like, if Otani
goes up there tonight, he's gonna just walk twice if
he doesn't swing. And look what happened in game in
(24:33):
Game three and four. You know, he got on base
and Freddie Freeman hit the home run, and so you know,
look he's not healthy. He's drinding it out. But again,
that's a difference in this Dodgers team. Man, that's been
fun to watch is the guys written it out. They're
playing hard, they're playing hurd and that's that's not what
I've seen in the past from the Dodgers. But what
(24:55):
I've seen this year.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Stug Ott Leave show here on Fox Sports, what was
the impetus behind you? You're getting involved to your athlete.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Again. I got four kids and the ability to help
families utilize and really make great memories and understand the
process of what this is. And the cool thing for
us is, you know, we had a good talk last time,
but like we're kind of getting to where you're dividing
it into like the developmental stage right where you're fixed
(25:26):
to ten eleven years old, then kind of more serious
in the middle school, and then of course like an
all in stage when you get to high school. If
you want to come play college, if you want to
try to get drafted, if you want that. You know,
we're trying to give parents to balance to do that.
You know a lot of parents tell me the same thing.
I got four kids. You can't go all in on
one kid and not give your other three kids a chance.
(25:47):
And so how do you balance that? How do you
balance home life, how do you balance having the life
going to the pool, hanging with your buddies, and how
do you balance when it's time to push your kids
to really let them realize their potential. I think, you know,
so many athletes, so many things we've done, we're learning
along the way. But I just think it's something that
needs to be talked about because U's four tab gotten
(26:08):
crazy and it's it's the dynamic of it. I think
it's just given pair to an outlet, a lane to
kind of come and listen to stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You know. It's it's really interesting being on this side
of it, Jeff, is that we got a commitment from
a player earlier this week, and I know he's a
higher level than where he's been recruited at outside of US,
and I believe that the reason he wasn't as highly
recruited as others at a similar skill level was he's
(26:39):
actually loyal to his AU program, playing the same AU program.
He didn't he didn't go to a shoe program. They
really never left the state and so it's great for us,
but I definitely think we would have had to fight
off a lot of other big ones and it's like
it almost kind of I guess, sort of punished as
a kid, although I think regardless of the size, like
he's a perfect fit for what we want. But it's interesting, right,
(27:02):
It's like do it do I leave my boys behind,
do I not how much should I be spending? I
mean that the cost is just obscene and at some
point also that there's a there's a realness to where
you need want to grab a parent and go like, look,
I don't care how much you spend on him, Like
he and a player. You know, there's a doubt you
can have fifteen trainers and a psychologist and a strength
and nutritionist or whenever, like he just ain't good enough.
(27:25):
It's that that would be interesting if you guys had
a reality coach, like, hey, just listen, Johnny's good at
a lot of things in life. Baseball's not way okay.
Speaker 9 (27:34):
Man, I'm having a parent meeting with my softball team tonight. Man,
I coach my daughter eleven year old softball team, and
they're all in sixth grade now, and I'm like, look,
if you don't throw strikes, I'm pulling you out of
the game. It's not personal, doesn't mean I don't love you.
It doesn't mean you're not going to get another opportunity.
But they're at the stage now right where it's like
I got to push him a little bit. If they're
getting ready for the high school level, I got to
(27:55):
start to push a little bit. Does it Does it
mean it's like you're never playing again? You're their pitching.
But I'm not going to make those girls sit in
the outfield and sit in the infield while a girl
walked six seven, seven batters two years ago. We had
more leeway for it, right, you had more rope for it.
But have they developed? It goes and like you said,
this person that you have coming, you know what, maybe
they could have been more highly recruited. But at the
(28:16):
same time, you know what, if he continues to do
what he does, whether it's the whole time at year school,
whatever happens at the end of the day, if you're
good enough, you know as well as I do. Those
pro scouts they don't miss they're not going to miss talent,
and he will have every opportunity. And so, you know what,
but he got to play with his buddies, man, And
like I did that. I was not highly highly thought
(28:38):
of in Baseball America until going into my senior year
when I played with Team USA because I went to
Cuba for three weeks. I raked and I did this,
and I came home and I was the sixth best
player in the country. If you go look my junior year, Man,
I wasn't on the top one hundred list because I
didn't go to any of these any of these showcases.
But I knew eventually, man, I was going to get
(28:59):
my sho And when I did, I knew that I
would ball out. And that's what my dad always told me.
He's like, you played with your buddies, and then going
into your senior year, we said, you know what, it's
time to go all in. And so we went to
Missouri for the USA trials and I went and did this,
and I just think kids now try to go all
in too soon, and that's where I think it gets dangerous.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, well, I'm with you this. It's a great service
that you're providing for so many. We'll see how many
get involved. Remember it's Pure Athlete Inc. On Instagram. You
can check out the Pure Athlete podcast. He's Jeff Rankcore.
You see him on on Turner Sports and of course
coaching an eleven eleven U softball team as well. Jeff,
you're the best, man, Get up to the bay and
let's let's come see a game.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
I'd love to Man, I'll be up there self, all.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Right, no, no problem. Jeff Chah by Way, Jeff's uncle
as our golf coach, so pretty pretty cool stud stud guy.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
If you don't like the song, I don't like You
Fair Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Part of it
is it's my favorite Marvel movie too, right. Buyer's like,
I don't watch Marvel movies because I'm a grown up.
I don't watch kids stuff, right, But I'm not. I'm
(30:18):
just Sam knows this Guardians of the Galaxy, right, plus
Redbone on the on the ones and twos. If you're
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get to be a game.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
For the record, when I was young, five, six, seven
years old, I collected Star Wars figurines. I had the
Darth Vader collector case. I wore Star Wars under ruse. Yeah,
all that stuff. So I was I was down. I
just ended up kind of growing out of it. That's
(31:06):
that's all it was. So there's there's no shame in
Star Wars. There's no shame in the animated game of Simpsons. Obviously,
such a such a fabric of our generation family guy,
all those. I did like South Park for a while,
but I haven't watched it recently. But I've just never
(31:28):
been biding that animated stuff so very good. But anyway,
now back to my.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I'm more teasing me, like I just I I grew
up to. I don't want to grow up. I'm a
toys r us. Kids chose not to grow up.
Speaker 10 (31:42):
There is something magical about the toy store or the
toy aisle now in stores.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You know what I never want I always wanted to do.
You know, people would get those like you get like
a five minute toy run where you just get a
grocery card. That's my dream. Yeah, shopping street. I don't
know anyone ever happened to. It was like a couple
of kids that Nickelodeon would get it. I just I'm
forever jealous.
Speaker 10 (32:05):
No, I agree with that all right. The game today
is for better or worse. What Doug tells us, what
is better or what is worse? For better or worse?
Doug New York fans versus Philadelphia fans.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
New York fans of Philadelphia fans.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
Who's better or worse?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Push push push?
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Nick?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, Nick Wick, there you go. Somebody remembers as.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
For better or worse dog Jamis wins I would say,
I would I honestly, they're the worst, all of.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Them, all of them. You wrap in like Maryland basketball fans,
just Eastern Seaboard, like all of you. Anyway, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (32:57):
That's all right. For better or worse Jamis Winston's career
or Marcus Mariota's career. Oh wow, each has a heisman?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Do we have to do? We have to take into
account the off the field?
Speaker 10 (33:17):
I you could, but there's something to that.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I would say, didn't Jamis to James win the national championship?
Speaker 10 (33:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, I would say Jameis.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
And Marcus Mariota lost theirs.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, and then that's that's part of it. That's part
of it. And I would also say that, Okay, so
part of it is he want to actual championship, and
you know how it ended in Atlanta with Mariota just
bailing from the team, or as Jamis has kind of
accepted the role of being a backup and now still
(33:50):
has has new life like that that part to it,
whether it's this part three or Part four, five point
zero whatever. Jamis also better than Mariota. I'll go I'm
gonna go Jammes.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
Mariota's thrown for sixteen thousand yards in his career ninety
five touchdowns. Jamis has thrown for twenty two hundred twenty
two thousand yards in his career one hundred and forty
five touchdowns. The uh For some reason, I can't get
my compare up on Pro Football Reference, but the Mariota
(34:21):
was the quarterback when the Titans made their their run
to the AFC Championship game. I believe, at least I
know that they beat the Chiefs in a playoff game.
Jamis Winston hasn't had that success all right. For better
or worse, Joe Flaco versus Matt Ryan, both both wearing
the horseshoe late in their career.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, Matt Ryan went MVP. Joe Flaco won a Super Bowl.
I'm gonna go Flaco.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
Okay, better Flaco better than Ryan.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
For career, I mean career. I'm like again, I think
Matt Ryan was probably a little bit better player, but
I mean he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (34:56):
M hm, So yeah, for better worse. And this is
the Hail Mary category, the fail Mary versus the Hail Maryland.
That's what they're calling the Commander's play, the Mary.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Fail Mary was worse. Fail Mary was worse. I'm what
a joke in the end zone there? Like that was?
That was a debacle. I know you're a Seahawks fan.
What was a debacle?
Speaker 10 (35:21):
It's a good call, you know, this fifty to fifty
possession or not. And of course the replacement refs were
made that such a such a big part of the
conversation because any full time ref would have called that
an interception. However, as a Seahawks fan sitting at home
watching that game, and I'm saying to myself, oh, geez,
(35:42):
shared possession, and I think that's what the part time
ref thought as well. Ty goes the runner, tie goes
to the offense. What do we like, guys? Do we
like the hale Mary wind or is there another name
that we could give that I heard calm bomb earlier
in the week. I like Hail Maryland, Maryland. Yeah, it's
(36:04):
really good. I'm not sold on Jason's is it? Fred Vp?
Is that what it is?
Speaker 9 (36:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I made that up. Yeah, I'm trying to get it.
What do you call it? I'm trying to get it.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
What about m m V free? Would that be a
better alternative?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Wasn't somebody else already? V MB three?
Speaker 7 (36:22):
This is m V free but MV free? Yeah, that's awesome,
fred VP. I'm trying to get that copy written. We'll
give it a shot, all right. For better or worse,
doug ut for the Big Ten? When Penn State's winning,
versus when Nebraska is winning? What's better for the Big Ten?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I think when Nebraska is winning, I think it's it's
not a worse for for Penn State. But it's like
you need some first of all, like Nebraska is historic power.
It's a completely different kind of market. You know they were.
They're also part you know, whether or not they're the
West now with the true West schools, like that whole
(37:04):
side was kind of set up for them to succeed
because there you don't have me. Remember that, you didn't
have Michigan and Penn State and Ohio State all you know,
you had Iowa came out from it and Wisconsin and
whatever like, Nebraska should be a power there. The league
needs Nebraska and USC to be back as powers.
Speaker 10 (37:22):
All right. Final one for better or worse. When we're
ordering at Eskimo Joe's on Monday and Still Water, Oklahoma,
the chili cheese fries versus the sweet pepper bacon cheese fries.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Sweet pepper bacon cheese fries. Order that six days a week,
twice on Sunday.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
If you want to join us, two o'clock.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Jumping Joint, Jumping juke Joint. Also, some of my friends
might be there, might be the jumping jew joint as well.
We can jump up and down, jump up, jump up,
jump round. But yeah, two we'll be there starting it
before one shoot round ends at noon. I'll walk over
Min's all walking distance from Gallagher I's game.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
By the way, that's.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Okay. And by the way, buyer, did you see Oklahoma
State's throwback uniforms for the weekend?
Speaker 10 (38:12):
Holy Caw.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
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