October 31, 2024 • 33 mins
Doug welcomes Kelley Ford of KFordRatings.com to talk college football. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take on the Yankees. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Julian Edelman is featured in today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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which is now known as x which is super super confusing. Anyway,
what's not confusing is college football rolls on and every
week we go to Kelly because we started the season
with predictive analysis of what the playoff would look like,
and now it's still predictive analysis of what the playoff
would look like. Kelly, what are the changes from last
week to this week on the final twelve?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah? So the changes, Doug, thanks as always for having me,
not many from a week ago. I now Notre Dame
in the projected field of twelve at the expense of Tennessee.
So my twelve right now projected at the end of
the year, Power four Conference champions Miami, Oregon, Texas, Iowa State.
You're at large teams that would host the game Georgia,
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Ohio State, Alabama, and Penn State, and then rounding out
the field here playing road games in the first round,
Notre Dame, as I said, entering the field Texas A
and M, Indiana and Boise State rounding it out as
the G five AQ there at the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, So what's the biggest change for people to pay
attention last week to this week?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So the biggest change for me, I mean it is
certainly going to be you know, Notre Dame now being
back in the field, and that's going to be projecting
you know, eleven to one Notre Dame team. No changes
to the top four projected seeds, meaning that the Power
four conference champion. No changes there from a from a
resume standpoint, What changed the most from last week to
this week? At the top, of course, Texas A and
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M's win against LSU, The Aggie's moved up in my
most Deserving rankings from number ten to number seven. LSU
now falls from number seven to number thirteen. The Tigers
are now behind as a two loss team, now behind
one other two loss team that would be Alabama, who
I have at number twelve in my most deserving.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Kelly Ford joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sworts Radio. Kelly, let me let me ask
you about the SEC, the teams that are not listed.
Who's next, Who's next in line if the Alabamas of
the world fall apart.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, so the next team from the SEC that are
just outside of my projected bracket for now, Tennessee LSU
are my first two teams out, So they're right there,
they're ready to pounce. I'm not ready to ride off
Old Miss just yet. I still think they have a
chance to sneak into this thing. They certainly can't afford
to lose another game, even Arkansas in South Carolina, Missouri.
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These teams are showing up in my projected top twenty
five at the end of the year, snipping me at
large just yet. There's a lot of teams in front
of them. But those are the other teams that are
still waiting if things break their way to take advantage.
But certainly Tennessee LSU Full Miss. Those are the teams
outside of of course Texas, Texas A and M Alabama
and Georgia as ones that we right now project to
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be in the field.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
All right, Kelly Ford joining us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. With that it allows
us to get into this weekend's games. One of the
things that his rating system does gives them gives you
kind of a true point spread, if you will. Boise
State's a twenty three and a half point favorite against
San Diego State. We've talked about Boise State a lot
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right now, you have them as the AQ of the
non Power four most likely to get in. Obviously, Ashton
Gentt's is everyone's talking about the possiblit of him winning
the Heisman Trophy. What are your numbers say about San
Diego State coming into Boise this weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, it's a Friday night game. I've got Boise Stan
as a big favorite here, not just like Vegas ninety
seven percent win expectancy, And Doug, if you look Boise State,
they've got five games remaining in the regular season, and
if you look at these games, my numbers right now
assign at least a ninety one percent win expectancy for
Boise State in each of their remaining regular season games.
I mean, the best team left on the schedule is
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probably Oregon State. They're at home. I've got Oregon State,
though power rated number eighty eight in the country, so
certainly not supposed to be a team that's going to
trip up Boise State. I've got a seventy five percent
chance that the Broncos win out here and finish at
eleven and one. Their best chance to make it into
the playoff would be to, hopefully, for their sake, see
UNLV again in the conference championship game. I know they
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just beat that UNLV team on the road in Las
Vegas last Friday night, and a five point win. That
would be their strongest opponent they could face in the
Mountain West Conference championship game. That's who they'd want to face.
And certainly I believe if Boise State finishes the year
at twelve and one, they would make the College Fotball
Playoff at no. Less than the number twelve seed. As
the G five AQ representative.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Manny Diaz is the former Miami Hurricanes head coach former
defensive coordinator. He's the head coach at Duke Blue. Devils
aren't great, but they're not terrible. They did play SMU
to a one point game. I'm only asking because Miami
I just I'm not terribly impressed, and maybe I'm holding
them to an unfair standard, but you know, game was
close with Louisville when Louisville is just okay. You know,
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you look at they should have lost the Cow game.
They should have lost the louisvill game. They should have
lost the Virginia Tech game. They didn't. It's an eleven
am on it's going to be a noon start time locally,
which sometimes you know, there's a little bit of malaise.
Your numbers say that they're in for a game here
is They're a twenty and a half point favorite via Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, that sounds about right. I mean, I've got Miami
with a ninety one percent win expectancy. But you're right, Doug,
it does speel, especially in recent weeks. I mean, you
look at the last four games that Miami has played.
They are three to oh in one score game in
last four. So if you look to see, you know,
how they've played recently over the course of the last month,
their power rating hasn't changed at all. It's been very
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consistent and they are a top ten power rated team.
For me, this offense arguably the number one unit in
the entire Country on that side of the ball with
cam Ward there at quarterback to transfer of course, But
on defense, that's where there's the concern, at least from
my standpoint from a power ratings model, I have them
number thirty nine on that side of the ball. So
you look though and see is any opposing offense remaining
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on the schedule is going to be able to challenge them?
Probably not, because I have Duke number eighty six on
offense Georgia Tech. That's a road game for the Hurricane.
They're number thirty eight, so perhaps there's an even matchup there.
But then Wake Forest is fifty seven, Syracuse is forty six.
So I really don't expect Miami truly to get tested
until the eighth again, until the ACC Championship game. Now,
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who are they going to face in that game? Is
it going to be SMU? Is it going to be Cleansing?
I think either of those teams will certainly provide a
stiff test. But if Miami makes it to Charlotte at
twelve to zero, then win or lose, I believe the
Hurricane will have a resume. Of course, if they win,
they're the AQ and Mike maybe the number one seed,
even if they lose, though, I think a one lost
Miami team with a twelve win is certainly a shoe
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win for the collegewall playoffs. So this team is not perfect.
They're very good on offense, the defense has concerned and
quite frankly, there's not much left on the regular season
schedule that gives me any costs for concern for Miami.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of our guy who I just I'm gonna tell you,
I think it's a It's really kind of a cheat
code to have Kelly Ford on here, as he gives
us his predictive analysis, and it makes you sound and
feel smarter when you get in these insane arguments about
what the college fotball playoff will look like. You mentioned
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old mister' not giving up Take it on Arkansas, Who's
red hot team out of the SEC at home? Vegas
says ole miss by seven and a half. What's Kelly
Ford saying?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And so this is a really interesting game for me,
Doug here this weekend. It's the only game on the
slate in which both teams, in my opinions on my
numbers are eliminated from at large contention with a loss.
We've got ten teams this weekend that by my numbers,
if they lose, they are out of the at large
race at least based on current projections. And ole Miss
Arkansas is the only game that pits two of these
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teams against each other, So Ole Miss it's a confounding team.
This team, from a power rating standpoint is very very good.
I mean, they are a top five team in many metrics,
including my own. From a power rating standpoint, this defense
has been incredible for most of the season. They're top
five on that side of the ball. The offense is
top ten, and we all thought the offense coming in
was going to be good. So they have two one
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possession losses, a very confounding loss at home that entuck
you by three points, and then they lose in Depth
Valley against LSU in overtime by three points in a
game that doug they trailed for zero seconds of game time.
They never trailed in that game until the final play,
which of course ends it there in overtime, and so
all the credit in the world to LSU forgetting the wins.
But Ole Miss is still a good team. Arkansas They're
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good in their own right, their top third in the
power ratings, They're top thirty five on both sides of
the ball. But I do have an eighty one percent
win expectancy for Old Miss on the road in this game.
I do have them with the advantage on both sides.
But Arkansas is a team. They have proven and we've
seen it earlier this year with the Hags being able
to pull off, you know, the upset of Tennessee at home,
going on the road and winning at Auburn in a
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game that many didn't think they'd have a chance. This
is a team that can surprise you and get a win.
So both teams need this one to stay in the race.
They have fainate chances they're gone with a loss. I
do think Ole Miss has enough to get it done.
Eighty one percent win expectancy for the Rebels here.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Last one Ohio State Penn State. Huge one in the
Big Ten, this one being played in Happy Valley. Of course,
Ohio State's only loss was one pointer on the road
at Oregon. Vegas likes Ohio State by more than a
field goal. What is your predicative analysis?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Say, yeah, and I'm kind of there with Vegas. I
have Ohio State with a sixty four percent win expectancy,
so it is a one score game which can be
considered a toss up in my mind in college football. However,
I think the health status and Drew Holler is really
big here. I mean, if he plays, is the one
hundred percent, I think that's certainly something that's to be considered.
These are two coaches that James Franklin and Ryan Day,
who have a lot of achievement. Certainly Ryan Day, you know,
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making cultural playoff, winning Big Ten championships, but in recent
years and really over the course of his Penn State
career for James Franklin, they have struggled somewhat in big games.
This is a huge game for both teams. I think
Ohio State actually needs it more though they are the
favorite in this game, they're on the road. I think
they need it more. It's at noon. It's big Fox,
big noon kickoff. If this was a night game, I
think Penn State has a bigger advantage even being at home.
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But being at noon I think helps Ohio State. Here's
why I think Ohio State really needs it. Doug Yes,
Ohio State certainly, by every metric, including my own from
a power rating standpoint, is a top twelve teammate. For
crying out loud, I have them number one in the
model right now. I'm not even sure how much I
agree with that, but they're top five on both sides
of the ball based on my model. But if Ohio
State loses this game, I think their CFP at large
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berth really comes into question because what's on the resume.
I mean, you've lost to Oregon, You've lost the Penn State. Sure,
those are tough games. They really have to beat Indiana
and Michigan and went out at that point, because I
think at ten and two, Ohio State, with the marquee
winning game win being probably at home and it's Indiana
at that stage would really come under scrutiny. I still
think given the brand of Ohio State and the committee
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saying we just think they're one of the twelve best teams,
they'd get in. But if I'm an Ohio State fan
and we lose this one, I get a little bit
nervous about how does this resume hold up on selection Sunday.
Having lost the two biggest games on our schedule, so
this is the biggest game of the weekend. It's got
a nine point nine out of ten on my watchability score.
I am very excited about it, and here on Fox Sports,
I know you guys are too. It should be the
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crown jewel of Week ten in college football.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Kelly, you're the best man. I really really appreciate you
join us. Thanks so much for being our guest on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Thanks for having me, Doug, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
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Speaker 2 (11:53):
App Let's Get to the Fox Says, and now every day,
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you play for your previous version of the Fox Sports
Radio Fox Sports One Show, this is Brady Quinn talking
about gen Z and the parents of gen Z.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But I feel like we've now raising kids in an
Arab where it's like, no, we don't want them to
be like you know, we don't want them to be
like that. We want to be aware, aware of their
mental health. I want them to be tough. I want
them to be able to sit there and say, yeah,
I would have pushed through this I'm tired. I don't
need to take a playoff. I don't need to call
a time out like I can do this, like I
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think that's what I need is I need them to
mentally be able to say that. And so that's the
problem for a guy like Anthony Richardson is of course
we're raising all these young people in a world where
it's okay to tap out. It's pathetic, honestly, and it's
I don't even put it early on him as much
as what we've created as like the older people and
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what we're looking down at because we've we've really complicit
with it. It's okay, it's okay if they want to tap
and they want to take a playoff, and it's like, hell, no,
it was never like that when you were growing up
var It was never like that when you're when you're
growing up Jonas. No, and it's bs. And it's why
I think when we look down the road at where
things are going, it's gonna be a problem because we
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lack any sort of toughness that like the future generations
Flipping had, like my dad or his dad and guys
who went and served war and came back got right
back in the workforce, put food on the table for
their families. People who are getting up doing that right
now that had fathers like that or or you know,
mothers like that. I mean, that's the bs of where
we're at right now.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Look, obviously there's Look I'm on the front lines of this,
and I also have a son, and I can tell
you that he's right and he's wrong. Right, there's a
way in which there's a middle ground there. There is
also kind of an awareness to how you're feeling and
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what's bothering you, and yet like like the here's the
probably easiest honest way to look at it. What you
have to do when you're in my position is it's
a little bit like what my coach, Coach Sutton used
to say, which is you can you can be tired,
but you can't play tired. And I think it's actually
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brilliant in the it's the validation of how you're feeling.
It's the validation of how you're feeling while saying you
have to push through those feelings. Right. What what Brady's
getting to is he believes and I think there are
a lot of people who do actually do this where
they say now ei their foul feelings have to be validated.
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But that means they can shut down on the challenge.
Life is not easy. Life does not wait for you
to are you okay? Okay? Now life can restart. You know,
there are many people that are psychologists that see the
world through lenses that are just not able to actually
happen in the real world. It's one of the things
I tell our guys on a daily BA this is
about basketball. Look, I get it. You want to you
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want to like figure out your balance and your feelings
and all that other stuff. We just don't have time.
It's not out the sport works. You to keep going,
keep going, keep going. So one, you have to weaponize them,
you know, you have to weaponize them with the answers.
You also, and I think this is the biggest thing.
Do you weaponize your own children with the coping mechanisms
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to get through this? Because there are other koping and
mechanisms other than just push through it. Do we need
to push through it more? Sure? He's not wrong, But
is it always just a push through? No, it's not.
Sometimes you're like, man, I'm out of sorts. I gotta
get myself out of the game. But fatigue which one
that some already said makes cowards of us all, which
that's what we're saying now of Anthony Richardson. Fatigue is
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a hard one and you have to you have to
basically validate feelings. I hear you. I know you're tired.
I get back out there, play through it. So I
think there's the middle ground of actually validating people's feelings.
I know it doesn't feel good, I understand, but I like,
somebody has to play, and we made you a bunch
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of money, and that's that's the job of playing quarterback.
So there's a middle ground too. They just put your
head down and don't even discuss feelings, and the get
so much in your feelings that you can't actually function.
And I think the best way to do it is
to balidate them and then say here, you now, get
back out there. This is Dan Patrick talking about the
disastrous fifth inning for the Yankees last night.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
With all the millions and millions and millions of dollars
that both of these franchise spent this year on their rosters,
it comes down to small things. Small things like catching
a fly ball, covering first base, making a good throw
to third base, taking advantage of a situation. And you know,
the fifth inning started harmlessly. It was like, all right,
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you know, five nothing. Garrett Cole was dealing, all right,
we're going to Los Angeles for a game six. Then
all of a sudden it happened. Judge drops the ball,
Anthony Volpi an error, throw a third, and then Garrett Cole,
he sees a dribbler from Mooki Bets, go up the
first base line. Anthony Rizzo he's sort of waiting for
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Garrett Cole to be over there and give credit to
Mooki Betts because he got down the line. He never
ever said, well, I just grounded out to end the inning.
If you look at Garrett Cole, he comes off the mound,
he's headed towards the dugout. Anthony Rizzo backs up. There
was maybe a little nonchalance on his part there. I
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don't know if they would have gotten Mooki Bets in
fairness to the you know, the totality of the play.
But Garrett Cole has to this is what you work
on in spring training. This is simple. This is just baseball.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
One oh one. Yeah, I mean it, He's not wrong,
and I mean Garrett Cole not covering first place you
could see how deflated he was, and I thought John
Smoltz said, man, it was amazing performance in the sixth
and need to come back out and pitch and to
pitch well and to shut the Dodgers down. But like
all these things are in fact the same, right, like
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those little things become big things. They cost you runs,
they cost you games, they cost them the World Series.
I would say that nerves had a great deal to
do with it, you know. And sometimes nerves can be
you're just nervous, so you make bad plays. And sometimes
nervous can be some people. We talked about copy mechanisms.
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Some people try to get to a place of being
super relaxed to not let nerves get to you, and
that actually screws them up as well. Here's Colin Cowhert
talking about Wuan Soto.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
The best thing that could happen to Major League Baseball,
dead serious here is that Soto Wan Soto for the
Yankees is arguably the great young player in the game.
He and Otani would be for the Dodgers to outbid
everybody and the Dodge to add him to Atani, Freeman, Betts, Kershaw, Soto,
it would be be the ultimate villain outside of Los Angeles,
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couldn't take your eyes off it. Major League Baseball has
not had a dynasty since like the early two thousands.
And by the way, go look at the NBA last
time they got great ratings. MJ's Bulls, Kobe Shack Steph's Warriors.
I think the Dodgers should make a run this year.
The Dodgers led baseball in home attendance and they also
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led it in road attendance. They're interesting. It's a star
studded machine. Add another star. We're all distracted. You have
to create urgency, and I think five former MVPs on
a team would create special and unique, create an experience
you can't get anywhere else. Everybody got mad when Kadi
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went to the Warriors. They watched they were a villain.
It was unique.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean, I'd love to say that that's what
this is about. I mean, I just think Shoeyo Tani
is the greatest player we've ever seen in the sport.
And then you have Mookie Betts and others like let's
not get into Kevin Durant and all these other like
super teams. They're not viewed like the Warriors. They're not
the Dodgers are really really good, and then they added
show heyo Tani, like, I don't think, what's that? What
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do the kids say? It's not that deep. It's not
that deep. Yes, yes, Jase do all.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Right, So I pulled this on purpose. I'm really disappointed
in Colin and this is why, you know, he's one
of the loudest voices, has one of the biggest audiences
in our industry. And I'm really pissed off because yesterday
and your annoying I said that John Hayman just lied
to everybody and was doing the bidding of Scott Boris
by saying that the Dodgers will be players for Juan Soto,
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and I'm and you know, Hayman should be ashamed for
just doing the agent's bidding. I don't think there's any
credence to this. When Sodo signs with whoever he signs
the next day, I'm going to ask somebody in the
organization at the Dodgers how much interest did the Dodgers have.
It's gonna be close to zero financially, it makes no sense.
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It's not consistent with the way Andrew Friedman's been spending money,
and he could spend that five hundred to seven hundred
million dollars on securing guys like Bueller or Ti Oscar
Hernandez or more valuable value related free agents. Like there's
just better ways to spend the money. It sounds weird,
but the Dodgers don't need Wan Sodo. And I'm disappointed
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for in Colin for being a loud voice in our
industry that is perpetuating this quote unquote report by John Hayman.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah. I mean again, it's we did this with Lebron too, right,
It's not just baseball. Like do you remember when Lebron
signed with the Lakers and everybody knew who signed with
the Lakers, and you had people link out that, oh,
he could sign with the Spurs. And I did this
on the radio show at the time. I know we
weren't together, but we worked together at Fox, and I said,
and I don't want to quote myself, but basically, is
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the first rule of playing for Greg Popovich and the Spurs.
You know what it is? Anybody? Do you? Sam? Do
you know what it is?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No, get over yourself? Right? Do you think that Lebron
James is over himself? Do you think there's any way
in which he could be over himself. So the answer
is no, it was never going to happen. It wasn't
even a discussion. But what happened was the and the Lakers.
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You know, they they took some of the bait with
some of the stuff, but just the idea of hey,
there's multiple bidders, like, no, there's not. He had Birch's
the home in LA. He had had his kids go
and visit private schools all in Orange County and in LA,
like it was a done deal. And you know, you
just you create some discussion and some leverage that doesn't
actually exist. So my point is that you're right Jay
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Stung in saying that it happens in a bunch of
different that only happens in baseball. Maybe it's worse in baseball.
I think it's equally bad in basketball. But and I
also agree with you with you're basically buying into an
insider who though an insider, he's really just telling you
one side of the details. Well, look, Jordan Schultz does
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the same thing. I think Jordan Schultz is probably the
worst at it, which is every opinion he has or
every story that he has and inside details that he
has comes from an agent, and they're all kind of
pro player sides. Like it's almost like some people will
pick side. It's a lot like political news right where
you're like, well, MSNBC is left and Fox News is right,
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and you know CNN tries to be sort of in
the middle and whatever. Right. Well, it's like in sports
you can tell that Jordan Schultz is completely players and
to a certain extents agents, and Hayman is all agents.
I would say passing is a little bit more in
the middle. Right. Anyway, that's what the Fox is.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Uh, let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
All right, So I'll put Colin Cowherd in that in
the mix today. But last night very predictable, but it's
still annoyed. It being predictable and it always happening doesn't
make it any less annoying. Criminals thieves taken advantage of
any situation to burn down cities and loot. So the
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Dodgers win, and it was like you look at your
watch and you count down when the reports of fire
looting will be coming out of downtown. And of course
over the next couple hours there was a lot of
celebrating with fireworks people in the streets. But again, criminal
activity as a justification or a Dodgers championship as as
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justification for stealing things. I mean there's like that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Like like I want you to think about that for
a second. Who's the persons like the Dodgers won, Let's
go steal some.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Shit, right, opportunists?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I know they exist everywhere. It's just he got bad people. Like,
what are we doing just such a such a bad look?
I mean, honesty, it happens literally everywhere. I don't understand
how bad was it? Like it felt fairly, you know.
It's like what we do with social media and with
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media is we magnify things that sometimes aren't really that
big of a problem. How big an issue was it.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
I think there's a couple dozen arrests. I don't nobody.
I don't think anyone is hurt or anything. I just
saw like images of people walking out of whatever stores
with boxes of Nikes shit like that. It's just it's
amazing to me, but it's not surprising, dudes. So, uh,
it's Halloween, and I give women a pass, and I
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give kids twelve and under a pass. Okay, Now, I
don't think kids twelve and under are going to work,
not in this country anyways, maybe China. But people that
wear costumes to work that are not that are not women.
And I'm going to give I'm going to give an
exception here because if you are on TV for a living,
or you're a part of a digital presentation, there's a
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lot of podcasts in our world here that also have
a video component. If you are a part of a
visual podcast or what have you, you're an exception. But
any male grown man wearing a car costume to work
today and you're not a part of a visual medium,
you're annoying Doug.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
To work. Yeah, I mean what if your work says
I generally, you're right. Yes, I do think though that also,
like I kind of think Halloween's one of the greatest
holidays ever. Can I do what you're annoying thing? Real quick?
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I got one right? Okay, So Ryan is it glass Spiegel?
Is that how you say his name? Okay? So Ryan Glasspiegel,
and I understand what he's saying. Okay, I actually do,
because he's calling out Ryan Clark, because Ryan Clark was
wearing a Bill Belichick mask and was pretending to be
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Bill Belichick. And it was, by the way, a terrible,
terrible rendition of Bill Belichick. But and this is not
at at Glasspiegel specifically, it comes down to he said, like, Ryan,
you're doing white face. And obviously Ryan Clark has spoken
out previously against blackface. And here's what's annoying is about
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ninety percent of our population. My guess would be they
don't actually know what blackface is. Now, I am not
going to this is It's not your fault if you
don't know, Sammy, do you know what blackface is?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
I do?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
It's where you put a face paint. You're a non
black person, or specifically a white person, you put black face,
You put face paint on your face that's black to
resemble a person of color. No, okay, well yeah, but
it goes back to minstrels, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And and now that now that part is that part
is correct?
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Okay, Well, okay, where where my blackface description was I wrong?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well? There's more a little bit more to it. Okay,
black blackface is not imitating a black person like I
could go if I wanted to for Halloween, be Baraco Obama.
And I can't do a Barack Obama impersonation, but it
would be pretty funny if I was, you know, at
a Halloween party and somebody asked me, and I would
go into some long soliloquy, dude, really because I knocked,
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And I would go into some long soliloquy because you know,
Blarack Obama. Every answer is really long, and he has
a he's become a great orator, but there's never just
an answer of yes or no. Yes, right. So if
I was to go into it, that's not blackface. And
I would say that, Sammy, you don't think that. I
don't think. Do you like imitating Barack Obama's not blackface?
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We agree.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
If we were just talking, i'd say no. But people
now can take anything. Again, I would say, no, it's
not because you're wearing a mask.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No, no, hold on, it doesn't matter if you're wearing
a mask or if you're doing paint. You're allowed. Actually,
especially on Halloween, you were allowed to get dressed up
as whatever you want to get dressed up.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
As if you're honoring Obama, if you're like I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You can make fun of fun of them, okay. But
but here's that you make it totally. Okay, you can,
if you're a black person, you can. But in the
nineteen twenties, I believe you talk about minstrels. Okay, back
in the vaudeville days. They were. They were singers that
painted their face with like black tar and then made
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their lips look especially like either white or red. And
what they did was mimic all of the monastiest, most
negative stereotypes of black people, right. They made them out
to be dumb, to imitate animals, all of the all
of the awful stereotypes. Okay, and they were laughed at.
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It was a comedic thing. Okay. My point is that
that people who got offended you get offended at dressing
up as as Will Smith. Right, if you got dressed
up as Will Smith and you're with you, you have
a Jada with you, and you said, you know, keep
my they're reading the doorbell, say keep my wife's name
out your mouth, right, that wouldn't be blackface. But I
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would say ninety percent of the population would think it's blackface.
It's not a getting blackface highly incredibly offensive. Getting dressed
up as a black persioner, getting dressed up and imitating
a white person, especially on Halloween, is not unless, of
course you're trying to play a negative stereotypes.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So the point is that Ryan Glasspiegel mislabeling getting dressed
up as Bill Belichick as blackface, as I see me
as whiteface, because Ryan Clark and others have mislabeled people
gett dressed up in imitating black people as blackface. Okay,
all of it's annoying because no one actually studies the
history and knows, and they throw it terms that they
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don't know what they mean, and that to me is
very annoying. Okay, so we we all we have a
bunch of your annoying. I still think the burning and
looting and overturning cars and whatever, because a team that
you probably never even I don't care if you went
to every game or no games, that's it's a terrible
reflection on your city. And it's usually like one hundred
(32:11):
idiot people, and of course in LA you can definitely
find one hundred idiots at one time, it's not that hard.
So to those people who are ruining how it looks
for I mean, all honesty, Mike, my hometown, you're annoying
your assholes. You're fucking up how anybody looks at Los
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Angeles just like Detroit when they burn shit, just like
New York when they burn shit, just like Well, college
sounds a little different when they burn couches. But looting
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Let's see here. Julian Edelman and Rob Gronkowski were on
a podcast recently. They talked about Brady.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
What was the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed?
Speaker 9 (33:03):
Oh my god, when I would return punts. I remember
my rookie year.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
It was my first punt return.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
I see Tom on the sideline. He was like coaching
me up on how to return a punt, and he's like.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Just get up, just get up.
Speaker 9 (33:15):
I'm sitting there and I'm looking at him like, this
guy has never done this.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
He does not know what I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
I was so annoyed with him. And then they repunted
it and I housed it and I slammed the ball
against the things. I was so annoyed with them, like
he's never felt what it fills when the guys are
running full and this is new to me. I never
felt it either at the time, So like I was
so annoyed with them.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That's awesome. But the best part about the whole thing
is the Brady imitation why I can play for you
because we can. All Right, that's it for the end
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
What did the bonus? The Doug Gottlieb Show. This is
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The iHeartRadio app. All right, let's welcome in. He's the
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which is now known as x which is super super confusing. Anyway,
what's not confusing is college football rolls on and every
week we go to Kelly because we started the season
with predictive analysis of what the playoff would look like,
and now it's still predictive analysis of what the playoff
would look like. Kelly, what are the changes from last
week to this week on the final twelve?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah? So the changes, Doug, thanks as always for having me,
not many from a week ago. I now Notre Dame
in the projected field of twelve at the expense of Tennessee.
So my twelve right now projected at the end of
the year, Power four Conference champions Miami, Oregon, Texas, Iowa State.
You're at large teams that would host the game Georgia,
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Ohio State, Alabama, and Penn State, and then rounding out
the field here playing road games in the first round,
Notre Dame, as I said, entering the field Texas A
and M, Indiana and Boise State rounding it out as
the G five AQ there at the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, So what's the biggest change for people to pay
attention last week to this week?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So the biggest change for me, I mean it is
certainly going to be you know, Notre Dame now being
back in the field, and that's going to be projecting
you know, eleven to one Notre Dame team. No changes
to the top four projected seeds, meaning that the Power
four conference champion. No changes there from a from a
resume standpoint, What changed the most from last week to
this week? At the top, of course, Texas A and
(01:58):
M's win against LSU, The Aggie's moved up in my
most Deserving rankings from number ten to number seven. LSU
now falls from number seven to number thirteen. The Tigers
are now behind as a two loss team, now behind
one other two loss team that would be Alabama, who
I have at number twelve in my most deserving.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Kelly Ford joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sworts Radio. Kelly, let me let me ask
you about the SEC, the teams that are not listed.
Who's next, Who's next in line if the Alabamas of
the world fall apart.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, so the next team from the SEC that are
just outside of my projected bracket for now, Tennessee LSU
are my first two teams out, So they're right there,
they're ready to pounce. I'm not ready to ride off
Old Miss just yet. I still think they have a
chance to sneak into this thing. They certainly can't afford
to lose another game, even Arkansas in South Carolina, Missouri.
(02:55):
These teams are showing up in my projected top twenty
five at the end of the year, snipping me at
large just yet. There's a lot of teams in front
of them. But those are the other teams that are
still waiting if things break their way to take advantage.
But certainly Tennessee LSU Full Miss. Those are the teams
outside of of course Texas, Texas A and M Alabama
and Georgia as ones that we right now project to
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be in the field.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
All right, Kelly Ford joining us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. With that it allows
us to get into this weekend's games. One of the
things that his rating system does gives them gives you
kind of a true point spread, if you will. Boise
State's a twenty three and a half point favorite against
San Diego State. We've talked about Boise State a lot
(03:40):
right now, you have them as the AQ of the
non Power four most likely to get in. Obviously, Ashton
Gentt's is everyone's talking about the possiblit of him winning
the Heisman Trophy. What are your numbers say about San
Diego State coming into Boise this weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, it's a Friday night game. I've got Boise Stan
as a big favorite here, not just like Vegas ninety
seven percent win expectancy, And Doug, if you look Boise State,
they've got five games remaining in the regular season, and
if you look at these games, my numbers right now
assign at least a ninety one percent win expectancy for
Boise State in each of their remaining regular season games.
I mean, the best team left on the schedule is
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probably Oregon State. They're at home. I've got Oregon State,
though power rated number eighty eight in the country, so
certainly not supposed to be a team that's going to
trip up Boise State. I've got a seventy five percent
chance that the Broncos win out here and finish at
eleven and one. Their best chance to make it into
the playoff would be to, hopefully, for their sake, see
UNLV again in the conference championship game. I know they
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just beat that UNLV team on the road in Las
Vegas last Friday night, and a five point win. That
would be their strongest opponent they could face in the
Mountain West Conference championship game. That's who they'd want to face.
And certainly I believe if Boise State finishes the year
at twelve and one, they would make the College Fotball
Playoff at no. Less than the number twelve seed. As
the G five AQ representative.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Manny Diaz is the former Miami Hurricanes head coach former
defensive coordinator. He's the head coach at Duke Blue. Devils
aren't great, but they're not terrible. They did play SMU
to a one point game. I'm only asking because Miami
I just I'm not terribly impressed, and maybe I'm holding
them to an unfair standard, but you know, game was
close with Louisville when Louisville is just okay. You know,
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you look at they should have lost the Cow game.
They should have lost the louisvill game. They should have
lost the Virginia Tech game. They didn't. It's an eleven
am on it's going to be a noon start time locally,
which sometimes you know, there's a little bit of malaise.
Your numbers say that they're in for a game here
is They're a twenty and a half point favorite via Vegas.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, that sounds about right. I mean, I've got Miami
with a ninety one percent win expectancy. But you're right, Doug,
it does speel, especially in recent weeks. I mean, you
look at the last four games that Miami has played.
They are three to oh in one score game in
last four. So if you look to see, you know,
how they've played recently over the course of the last month,
their power rating hasn't changed at all. It's been very
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consistent and they are a top ten power rated team.
For me, this offense arguably the number one unit in
the entire Country on that side of the ball with
cam Ward there at quarterback to transfer of course, But
on defense, that's where there's the concern, at least from
my standpoint from a power ratings model, I have them
number thirty nine on that side of the ball. So
you look though and see is any opposing offense remaining
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on the schedule is going to be able to challenge them?
Probably not, because I have Duke number eighty six on
offense Georgia Tech. That's a road game for the Hurricane.
They're number thirty eight, so perhaps there's an even matchup there.
But then Wake Forest is fifty seven, Syracuse is forty six.
So I really don't expect Miami truly to get tested
until the eighth again, until the ACC Championship game. Now,
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who are they going to face in that game? Is
it going to be SMU? Is it going to be Cleansing?
I think either of those teams will certainly provide a
stiff test. But if Miami makes it to Charlotte at
twelve to zero, then win or lose, I believe the
Hurricane will have a resume. Of course, if they win,
they're the AQ and Mike maybe the number one seed,
even if they lose, though, I think a one lost
Miami team with a twelve win is certainly a shoe
(07:09):
win for the collegewall playoffs. So this team is not perfect.
They're very good on offense, the defense has concerned and
quite frankly, there's not much left on the regular season
schedule that gives me any costs for concern for Miami.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of our guy who I just I'm gonna tell you,
I think it's a It's really kind of a cheat
code to have Kelly Ford on here, as he gives
us his predictive analysis, and it makes you sound and
feel smarter when you get in these insane arguments about
what the college fotball playoff will look like. You mentioned
(07:42):
old mister' not giving up Take it on Arkansas, Who's
red hot team out of the SEC at home? Vegas
says ole miss by seven and a half. What's Kelly
Ford saying?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And so this is a really interesting game for me,
Doug here this weekend. It's the only game on the
slate in which both teams, in my opinions on my
numbers are eliminated from at large contention with a loss.
We've got ten teams this weekend that by my numbers,
if they lose, they are out of the at large
race at least based on current projections. And ole Miss
Arkansas is the only game that pits two of these
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teams against each other, So Ole Miss it's a confounding team.
This team, from a power rating standpoint is very very good.
I mean, they are a top five team in many metrics,
including my own. From a power rating standpoint, this defense
has been incredible for most of the season. They're top
five on that side of the ball. The offense is
top ten, and we all thought the offense coming in
was going to be good. So they have two one
(08:36):
possession losses, a very confounding loss at home that entuck
you by three points, and then they lose in Depth
Valley against LSU in overtime by three points in a
game that doug they trailed for zero seconds of game time.
They never trailed in that game until the final play,
which of course ends it there in overtime, and so
all the credit in the world to LSU forgetting the wins.
But Ole Miss is still a good team. Arkansas They're
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good in their own right, their top third in the
power ratings, They're top thirty five on both sides of
the ball. But I do have an eighty one percent
win expectancy for Old Miss on the road in this game.
I do have them with the advantage on both sides.
But Arkansas is a team. They have proven and we've
seen it earlier this year with the Hags being able
to pull off, you know, the upset of Tennessee at home,
going on the road and winning at Auburn in a
(09:18):
game that many didn't think they'd have a chance. This
is a team that can surprise you and get a win.
So both teams need this one to stay in the race.
They have fainate chances they're gone with a loss. I
do think Ole Miss has enough to get it done.
Eighty one percent win expectancy for the Rebels here.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Last one Ohio State Penn State. Huge one in the
Big Ten, this one being played in Happy Valley. Of course,
Ohio State's only loss was one pointer on the road
at Oregon. Vegas likes Ohio State by more than a
field goal. What is your predicative analysis?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Say, yeah, and I'm kind of there with Vegas. I
have Ohio State with a sixty four percent win expectancy,
so it is a one score game which can be
considered a toss up in my mind in college football. However,
I think the health status and Drew Holler is really
big here. I mean, if he plays, is the one
hundred percent, I think that's certainly something that's to be considered.
These are two coaches that James Franklin and Ryan Day,
who have a lot of achievement. Certainly Ryan Day, you know,
(10:10):
making cultural playoff, winning Big Ten championships, but in recent
years and really over the course of his Penn State
career for James Franklin, they have struggled somewhat in big games.
This is a huge game for both teams. I think
Ohio State actually needs it more though they are the
favorite in this game, they're on the road. I think
they need it more. It's at noon. It's big Fox,
big noon kickoff. If this was a night game, I
think Penn State has a bigger advantage even being at home.
(10:32):
But being at noon I think helps Ohio State. Here's
why I think Ohio State really needs it. Doug Yes,
Ohio State certainly, by every metric, including my own from
a power rating standpoint, is a top twelve teammate. For
crying out loud, I have them number one in the
model right now. I'm not even sure how much I
agree with that, but they're top five on both sides
of the ball based on my model. But if Ohio
State loses this game, I think their CFP at large
(10:55):
berth really comes into question because what's on the resume.
I mean, you've lost to Oregon, You've lost the Penn State. Sure,
those are tough games. They really have to beat Indiana
and Michigan and went out at that point, because I
think at ten and two, Ohio State, with the marquee
winning game win being probably at home and it's Indiana
at that stage would really come under scrutiny. I still
think given the brand of Ohio State and the committee
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saying we just think they're one of the twelve best teams,
they'd get in. But if I'm an Ohio State fan
and we lose this one, I get a little bit
nervous about how does this resume hold up on selection Sunday.
Having lost the two biggest games on our schedule, so
this is the biggest game of the weekend. It's got
a nine point nine out of ten on my watchability score.
I am very excited about it, and here on Fox Sports,
I know you guys are too. It should be the
(11:36):
crown jewel of Week ten in college football.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Kelly, you're the best man. I really really appreciate you
join us. Thanks so much for being our guest on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Thanks for having me, Doug, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (11:53):
App Let's Get to the Fox Says, and now every day,
this time that Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus podcast
you play for your previous version of the Fox Sports
Radio Fox Sports One Show, this is Brady Quinn talking
about gen Z and the parents of gen Z.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But I feel like we've now raising kids in an
Arab where it's like, no, we don't want them to
be like you know, we don't want them to be
like that. We want to be aware, aware of their
mental health. I want them to be tough. I want
them to be able to sit there and say, yeah,
I would have pushed through this I'm tired. I don't
need to take a playoff. I don't need to call
a time out like I can do this, like I
(12:33):
think that's what I need is I need them to
mentally be able to say that. And so that's the
problem for a guy like Anthony Richardson is of course
we're raising all these young people in a world where
it's okay to tap out. It's pathetic, honestly, and it's
I don't even put it early on him as much
as what we've created as like the older people and
(12:53):
what we're looking down at because we've we've really complicit
with it. It's okay, it's okay if they want to tap
and they want to take a playoff, and it's like, hell, no,
it was never like that when you were growing up
var It was never like that when you're when you're
growing up Jonas. No, and it's bs. And it's why
I think when we look down the road at where
things are going, it's gonna be a problem because we
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lack any sort of toughness that like the future generations
Flipping had, like my dad or his dad and guys
who went and served war and came back got right
back in the workforce, put food on the table for
their families. People who are getting up doing that right
now that had fathers like that or or you know,
mothers like that. I mean, that's the bs of where
we're at right now.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Look, obviously there's Look I'm on the front lines of this,
and I also have a son, and I can tell
you that he's right and he's wrong. Right, there's a
way in which there's a middle ground there. There is
also kind of an awareness to how you're feeling and
(13:57):
what's bothering you, and yet like like the here's the
probably easiest honest way to look at it. What you
have to do when you're in my position is it's
a little bit like what my coach, Coach Sutton used
to say, which is you can you can be tired,
but you can't play tired. And I think it's actually
(14:18):
brilliant in the it's the validation of how you're feeling.
It's the validation of how you're feeling while saying you
have to push through those feelings. Right. What what Brady's
getting to is he believes and I think there are
a lot of people who do actually do this where
they say now ei their foul feelings have to be validated.
(14:40):
But that means they can shut down on the challenge.
Life is not easy. Life does not wait for you
to are you okay? Okay? Now life can restart. You know,
there are many people that are psychologists that see the
world through lenses that are just not able to actually
happen in the real world. It's one of the things
I tell our guys on a daily BA this is
about basketball. Look, I get it. You want to you
(15:03):
want to like figure out your balance and your feelings
and all that other stuff. We just don't have time.
It's not out the sport works. You to keep going,
keep going, keep going. So one, you have to weaponize them,
you know, you have to weaponize them with the answers.
You also, and I think this is the biggest thing.
Do you weaponize your own children with the coping mechanisms
(15:27):
to get through this? Because there are other koping and
mechanisms other than just push through it. Do we need
to push through it more? Sure? He's not wrong, But
is it always just a push through? No, it's not.
Sometimes you're like, man, I'm out of sorts. I gotta
get myself out of the game. But fatigue which one
that some already said makes cowards of us all, which
that's what we're saying now of Anthony Richardson. Fatigue is
(15:51):
a hard one and you have to you have to
basically validate feelings. I hear you. I know you're tired.
I get back out there, play through it. So I
think there's the middle ground of actually validating people's feelings.
I know it doesn't feel good, I understand, but I like,
somebody has to play, and we made you a bunch
(16:13):
of money, and that's that's the job of playing quarterback.
So there's a middle ground too. They just put your
head down and don't even discuss feelings, and the get
so much in your feelings that you can't actually function.
And I think the best way to do it is
to balidate them and then say here, you now, get
back out there. This is Dan Patrick talking about the
disastrous fifth inning for the Yankees last night.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
With all the millions and millions and millions of dollars
that both of these franchise spent this year on their rosters,
it comes down to small things. Small things like catching
a fly ball, covering first base, making a good throw
to third base, taking advantage of a situation. And you know,
the fifth inning started harmlessly. It was like, all right,
(16:57):
you know, five nothing. Garrett Cole was dealing, all right,
we're going to Los Angeles for a game six. Then
all of a sudden it happened. Judge drops the ball,
Anthony Volpi an error, throw a third, and then Garrett Cole,
he sees a dribbler from Mooki Bets, go up the
first base line. Anthony Rizzo he's sort of waiting for
(17:17):
Garrett Cole to be over there and give credit to
Mooki Betts because he got down the line. He never
ever said, well, I just grounded out to end the inning.
If you look at Garrett Cole, he comes off the mound,
he's headed towards the dugout. Anthony Rizzo backs up. There
was maybe a little nonchalance on his part there. I
(17:39):
don't know if they would have gotten Mooki Bets in
fairness to the you know, the totality of the play.
But Garrett Cole has to this is what you work
on in spring training. This is simple. This is just baseball.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
One oh one. Yeah, I mean it, He's not wrong,
and I mean Garrett Cole not covering first place you
could see how deflated he was, and I thought John
Smoltz said, man, it was amazing performance in the sixth
and need to come back out and pitch and to
pitch well and to shut the Dodgers down. But like
all these things are in fact the same, right, like
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those little things become big things. They cost you runs,
they cost you games, they cost them the World Series.
I would say that nerves had a great deal to
do with it, you know. And sometimes nerves can be
you're just nervous, so you make bad plays. And sometimes
nervous can be some people. We talked about copy mechanisms.
(18:36):
Some people try to get to a place of being
super relaxed to not let nerves get to you, and
that actually screws them up as well. Here's Colin Cowhert
talking about Wuan Soto.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
The best thing that could happen to Major League Baseball,
dead serious here is that Soto Wan Soto for the
Yankees is arguably the great young player in the game.
He and Otani would be for the Dodgers to outbid
everybody and the Dodge to add him to Atani, Freeman, Betts, Kershaw, Soto,
it would be be the ultimate villain outside of Los Angeles,
(19:08):
couldn't take your eyes off it. Major League Baseball has
not had a dynasty since like the early two thousands.
And by the way, go look at the NBA last
time they got great ratings. MJ's Bulls, Kobe Shack Steph's Warriors.
I think the Dodgers should make a run this year.
The Dodgers led baseball in home attendance and they also
(19:30):
led it in road attendance. They're interesting. It's a star
studded machine. Add another star. We're all distracted. You have
to create urgency, and I think five former MVPs on
a team would create special and unique, create an experience
you can't get anywhere else. Everybody got mad when Kadi
(19:52):
went to the Warriors. They watched they were a villain.
It was unique.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean, I'd love to say that that's what
this is about. I mean, I just think Shoeyo Tani
is the greatest player we've ever seen in the sport.
And then you have Mookie Betts and others like let's
not get into Kevin Durant and all these other like
super teams. They're not viewed like the Warriors. They're not
the Dodgers are really really good, and then they added
show heyo Tani, like, I don't think, what's that? What
(20:24):
do the kids say? It's not that deep. It's not
that deep. Yes, yes, Jase do all.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Right, So I pulled this on purpose. I'm really disappointed
in Colin and this is why, you know, he's one
of the loudest voices, has one of the biggest audiences
in our industry. And I'm really pissed off because yesterday
and your annoying I said that John Hayman just lied
to everybody and was doing the bidding of Scott Boris
by saying that the Dodgers will be players for Juan Soto,
(20:52):
and I'm and you know, Hayman should be ashamed for
just doing the agent's bidding. I don't think there's any
credence to this. When Sodo signs with whoever he signs
the next day, I'm going to ask somebody in the
organization at the Dodgers how much interest did the Dodgers have.
It's gonna be close to zero financially, it makes no sense.
(21:13):
It's not consistent with the way Andrew Friedman's been spending money,
and he could spend that five hundred to seven hundred
million dollars on securing guys like Bueller or Ti Oscar
Hernandez or more valuable value related free agents. Like there's
just better ways to spend the money. It sounds weird,
but the Dodgers don't need Wan Sodo. And I'm disappointed
(21:36):
for in Colin for being a loud voice in our
industry that is perpetuating this quote unquote report by John Hayman.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah. I mean again, it's we did this with Lebron too, right,
It's not just baseball. Like do you remember when Lebron
signed with the Lakers and everybody knew who signed with
the Lakers, and you had people link out that, oh,
he could sign with the Spurs. And I did this
on the radio show at the time. I know we
weren't together, but we worked together at Fox, and I said,
and I don't want to quote myself, but basically, is
(22:08):
the first rule of playing for Greg Popovich and the Spurs.
You know what it is? Anybody? Do you? Sam? Do
you know what it is?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No, get over yourself? Right? Do you think that Lebron
James is over himself? Do you think there's any way
in which he could be over himself. So the answer
is no, it was never going to happen. It wasn't
even a discussion. But what happened was the and the Lakers.
(22:35):
You know, they they took some of the bait with
some of the stuff, but just the idea of hey,
there's multiple bidders, like, no, there's not. He had Birch's
the home in LA. He had had his kids go
and visit private schools all in Orange County and in LA,
like it was a done deal. And you know, you
just you create some discussion and some leverage that doesn't
actually exist. So my point is that you're right Jay
(22:59):
Stung in saying that it happens in a bunch of
different that only happens in baseball. Maybe it's worse in baseball.
I think it's equally bad in basketball. But and I
also agree with you with you're basically buying into an
insider who though an insider, he's really just telling you
one side of the details. Well, look, Jordan Schultz does
(23:19):
the same thing. I think Jordan Schultz is probably the
worst at it, which is every opinion he has or
every story that he has and inside details that he
has comes from an agent, and they're all kind of
pro player sides. Like it's almost like some people will
pick side. It's a lot like political news right where
you're like, well, MSNBC is left and Fox News is right,
(23:41):
and you know CNN tries to be sort of in
the middle and whatever. Right. Well, it's like in sports
you can tell that Jordan Schultz is completely players and
to a certain extents agents, and Hayman is all agents.
I would say passing is a little bit more in
the middle. Right. Anyway, that's what the Fox is.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'd say, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Uh, let's find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
All right, So I'll put Colin Cowherd in that in
the mix today. But last night very predictable, but it's
still annoyed. It being predictable and it always happening doesn't
make it any less annoying. Criminals thieves taken advantage of
any situation to burn down cities and loot. So the
(24:53):
Dodgers win, and it was like you look at your
watch and you count down when the reports of fire
looting will be coming out of downtown. And of course
over the next couple hours there was a lot of
celebrating with fireworks people in the streets. But again, criminal
activity as a justification or a Dodgers championship as as
(25:17):
justification for stealing things. I mean there's like that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Like like I want you to think about that for
a second. Who's the persons like the Dodgers won, Let's
go steal some.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Shit, right, opportunists?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I know they exist everywhere. It's just he got bad people. Like,
what are we doing just such a such a bad look?
I mean, honesty, it happens literally everywhere. I don't understand
how bad was it? Like it felt fairly, you know.
It's like what we do with social media and with
(25:53):
media is we magnify things that sometimes aren't really that
big of a problem. How big an issue was it.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
I think there's a couple dozen arrests. I don't nobody.
I don't think anyone is hurt or anything. I just
saw like images of people walking out of whatever stores
with boxes of Nikes shit like that. It's just it's
amazing to me, but it's not surprising, dudes. So, uh,
it's Halloween, and I give women a pass, and I
(26:24):
give kids twelve and under a pass. Okay, Now, I
don't think kids twelve and under are going to work,
not in this country anyways, maybe China. But people that
wear costumes to work that are not that are not women.
And I'm going to give I'm going to give an
exception here because if you are on TV for a living,
or you're a part of a digital presentation, there's a
(26:47):
lot of podcasts in our world here that also have
a video component. If you are a part of a
visual podcast or what have you, you're an exception. But
any male grown man wearing a car costume to work
today and you're not a part of a visual medium,
you're annoying Doug.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
To work. Yeah, I mean what if your work says
I generally, you're right. Yes, I do think though that also,
like I kind of think Halloween's one of the greatest
holidays ever. Can I do what you're annoying thing? Real quick?
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I got one right? Okay, So Ryan is it glass Spiegel?
Is that how you say his name? Okay? So Ryan Glasspiegel,
and I understand what he's saying. Okay, I actually do,
because he's calling out Ryan Clark, because Ryan Clark was
wearing a Bill Belichick mask and was pretending to be
(27:46):
Bill Belichick. And it was, by the way, a terrible,
terrible rendition of Bill Belichick. But and this is not
at at Glasspiegel specifically, it comes down to he said, like, Ryan,
you're doing white face. And obviously Ryan Clark has spoken
out previously against blackface. And here's what's annoying is about
(28:09):
ninety percent of our population. My guess would be they
don't actually know what blackface is. Now, I am not
going to this is It's not your fault if you
don't know, Sammy, do you know what blackface is?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
I do?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
It's where you put a face paint. You're a non
black person, or specifically a white person, you put black face,
You put face paint on your face that's black to
resemble a person of color. No, okay, well yeah, but
it goes back to minstrels, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And and now that now that part is that part
is correct?
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Okay, Well, okay, where where my blackface description was I wrong?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well? There's more a little bit more to it. Okay,
black blackface is not imitating a black person like I
could go if I wanted to for Halloween, be Baraco Obama.
And I can't do a Barack Obama impersonation, but it
would be pretty funny if I was, you know, at
a Halloween party and somebody asked me, and I would
go into some long soliloquy, dude, really because I knocked,
(29:15):
And I would go into some long soliloquy because you know,
Blarack Obama. Every answer is really long, and he has
a he's become a great orator, but there's never just
an answer of yes or no. Yes, right. So if
I was to go into it, that's not blackface. And
I would say that, Sammy, you don't think that. I
don't think. Do you like imitating Barack Obama's not blackface?
(29:36):
We agree.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
If we were just talking, i'd say no. But people
now can take anything. Again, I would say, no, it's
not because you're wearing a mask.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No, no, hold on, it doesn't matter if you're wearing
a mask or if you're doing paint. You're allowed. Actually,
especially on Halloween, you were allowed to get dressed up
as whatever you want to get dressed up.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
As if you're honoring Obama, if you're like I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You can make fun of fun of them, okay. But
but here's that you make it totally. Okay, you can,
if you're a black person, you can. But in the
nineteen twenties, I believe you talk about minstrels. Okay, back
in the vaudeville days. They were. They were singers that
painted their face with like black tar and then made
(30:24):
their lips look especially like either white or red. And
what they did was mimic all of the monastiest, most
negative stereotypes of black people, right. They made them out
to be dumb, to imitate animals, all of the all
of the awful stereotypes. Okay, and they were laughed at.
(30:48):
It was a comedic thing. Okay. My point is that
that people who got offended you get offended at dressing
up as as Will Smith. Right, if you got dressed
up as Will Smith and you're with you, you have
a Jada with you, and you said, you know, keep
my they're reading the doorbell, say keep my wife's name
out your mouth, right, that wouldn't be blackface. But I
(31:10):
would say ninety percent of the population would think it's blackface.
It's not a getting blackface highly incredibly offensive. Getting dressed
up as a black persioner, getting dressed up and imitating
a white person, especially on Halloween, is not unless, of
course you're trying to play a negative stereotypes.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
So the point is that Ryan Glasspiegel mislabeling getting dressed
up as Bill Belichick as blackface, as I see me
as whiteface, because Ryan Clark and others have mislabeled people
gett dressed up in imitating black people as blackface. Okay,
all of it's annoying because no one actually studies the
history and knows, and they throw it terms that they
(31:49):
don't know what they mean, and that to me is
very annoying. Okay, so we we all we have a
bunch of your annoying. I still think the burning and
looting and overturning cars and whatever, because a team that
you probably never even I don't care if you went
to every game or no games, that's it's a terrible
reflection on your city. And it's usually like one hundred
(32:11):
idiot people, and of course in LA you can definitely
find one hundred idiots at one time, it's not that hard.
So to those people who are ruining how it looks
for I mean, all honesty, Mike, my hometown, you're annoying
your assholes. You're fucking up how anybody looks at Los
(32:33):
Angeles just like Detroit when they burn shit, just like
New York when they burn shit, just like Well, college
sounds a little different when they burn couches. But looting
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Why are we doing this because we can.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Let's see here. Julian Edelman and Rob Gronkowski were on
a podcast recently. They talked about Brady.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
What was the moment that Tom made you the most annoyed?
Speaker 9 (33:03):
Oh my god, when I would return punts. I remember
my rookie year.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
It was my first punt return.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
I see Tom on the sideline. He was like coaching
me up on how to return a punt, and he's like.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Just get up, just get up.
Speaker 9 (33:15):
I'm sitting there and I'm looking at him like, this
guy has never done this.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
He does not know what I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
I was so annoyed with him. And then they repunted
it and I housed it and I slammed the ball
against the things. I was so annoyed with them, like
he's never felt what it fills when the guys are
running full and this is new to me. I never
felt it either at the time, So like I was
so annoyed with them.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That's awesome. But the best part about the whole thing
is the Brady imitation why I can play for you
because we can. All Right, that's it for the end
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