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not to the we stattle of the wei status, but
of all fans, of all people who are celebrating today,
Jay stwo would be the most likely and the most
acceptable to stay we because he literally has watched every
Dodger game of the year. And although he's been a
curmudget and he said multiple times this team just does
not have the pitching. It's just not gonna happen. And
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they're soft and Mookie Bets is a choker. You know,
all those things are well documented. His team did, in
fact win the World Series. And it's not just that
you won the World Series, it's the way in which
you won the World Series. Here's the final call on
Fox TV.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Last night, the Dodgers a strike.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Away from a championship, from a proper celebration to us,
you're Dodgers heavy masers.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's Joe Davis the call. This is the Doug Otlib
Shawn Fox Sport tradio. There are similarities, right, and you
had a It was Julio Urayas who closed it in
twenty twenty, right, and again at the time he was
a starter, I believe who came in and closed the door.
We've seen this happen time again. But the Game seven
starter and I saw Jay stew was texting and then
I tweeted out, what if they put Shoeyotani in for
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the bobbom of the ninth inning to go in and
beat the Yankees in Yankee Stadium two out of three times?
Super impressive to come from behind in late in the
game against the Yankees. Super impressive to come from five
to nothing down, especially when Aaron Judge finally hit a
home run and they seem to wake up the bear
really really really impressive. I've told those last three outs
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are always hard against the anybody, especially the Yankees. The
last twenty seven against the Yankees and Yankee Stadium are difficult.
And I know they had an expensive team, but the
reality is that a good amount of that expense is
on the IRS pitchers. And choey Otani can't pitch. I know. Yeah,
by the way, he barely hit at least for Joeyotani
since hurting his shoulder at the end of Game two
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Game two, but they found a way or maybe And
right here's the coaching EXPRESSI and more games are lost
than one. The Yankees lost that game. I mean, I
think in the late innings, coming from six to five down,
putting together at pats, loading the bases, getting the sackfly,
you know, and then get some hits and score like
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all that stuff is great, but none of it happens
if the Yankees don't start throwing. Looking like when my
my son stopped playing baseball, one of the big reasons
he played didn't stop playing baseball was he wasn't on
particularly good club teams and bad club teams when you're
in like fifth grade, they look like that they boot
the rest. And the expression we always ad is man
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getting nine outs is really hard in one inning, right,
And you you felt for Garrett Cole, but then he,
of course, he has his own mental brain flatulence. While
you're sitting there and you're watching it home and there's
a grounder and they get it. At first, she's like,
where's the picture. And the look on his face when
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he was ultimately removed from the game was of the
realization that he let everybody down. Yes, picking the ball
up in the sixth inning and shutting him down was great,
but you can't get it back from where it was.
And I'm going to give you an expression that I used.
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I honestly don't know if I heard it somewhere or
I just made it up. It's one of those things
where when you say it or you're like, that's the
most simple minded, very easy, repeatable, dumb quote, but you
might actually like it. You ready for it. The fundamentals
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are the fundamentals. WHOA, what's that mean? Though?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
In baseball, fielding the ball, catching the ball, throwing the ball,
understanding based upon outs, based upon situation, where the ball
goes who's supposed to cover, where's the cutoff man, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. Those fundamentals have not changed, have
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not changed. Sometimes where the ball goes, you know, do
you hold a guy on? When do we have a
play on? Some of that has changed because the emphasis
of baseball. You know, for a long time, we didn't
have guys run because everything was hit home run and
we didn't value small ball. Now they increased the size
of the baseball bag, you know, of first base or
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I mean, you have second base. So it does technically
make it easier to steal. It's it's reinstitute death. But
unless you can throw it, catch it, field it, it
doesn't matter. In basketball, the sport has changed in terms
of the use of the three points, the use of
different quadrants of the court, the styles of offense. People
don't run motion, people don't do things inside the three
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point line. But passing, dribbling, catching, shooting, defending, rebounding. That
hasn't changed. Angles and themes does change the fundamentals of
the fundamentals In football, blocking, tackling, holding onto the ball.
He who turns the football over less generally wins. Right.
Those things haven't changed. The fundamentals are the fundamentals, and
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the New York Yankees were not fundamentally sound and that's
why they lost the game. Now, can you blame it
on not putting enough work in it? Maybe? I don't know.
Can you blame it on the pressure of the moment
when you're up five to nothing and you feel like
and then all of a sudden you make an error,
now sudden two or three? Like, yeah, that's fair. By
the way, that's called choking. When the pressure and magnitude
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of a moment cause you to perform at a level
far below the normal standard for you or for your
team personally, that's choking. Yeggy's choked. But to me, it's
the fundamentals. Are the fundamentals, and when you and that's
challenged the most at the times in which the pressure
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is the highest. And I can tell you, like, we're
playing a game. My first college basketball game as a
coach is on Monday, play my old Moner Oaklam State.
They're bigger, they're more athletic, they're stronger, they're older, and
based upon the way they play, the number one thing
that will win us or lose us the game is
the fundamentals. Can we pass, can we catch? Can we
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make shots? Can we defend? Stop the ball, can rebound
the ball? Like the placing of the players in the
skyning report, Like, oh, that's important, but unless you get
to the fundamentals, it doesn't matter. And that I think
is ultimately what undid the Yankees. You know, even the
fact that, like I get, you have show Hay and
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then you have Mookie before you get to Freddy. But
Game one, how you use a guy who hadn't pitched
in a month and then his first pitch is a
fastball right down in the middle. Why are you not
throwing a breaking ball which goes away from him? Why?
That's the whole strength that left you lefty matchups? The
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fundamentals are the fundamentals. Stuck golleb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Jase dou how are you feeling today?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Oh, I'm feeling wonderful. Thank you, Thank you for all
the compliments in the first couple of seconds of the show.
And I could not be happier. I cannot be happier
for myself, who has been with this team since the
nineteen seventies. But I couldn't be happiest for my son, Jacob,
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who is able to celebrate and acknowledge a first regular
season World Series title. So I'm over the roof and
a couple of things on what you just said. You know,
the fundamentals are definitely the issue here, and one thing
that we know about any sport is that in the postseason,
when things get tight, your flaws, your warts tend to surface.
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We knew the Yankees were not fundamentally sound all season.
This was kind of one of their weaknesses base running
as well, and it came to bite them in the
butt last night. The inverse of that, or the converse,
whatever the word is. The Dodgers' warts over the past
seven or eight years, they just didn't have any clutch
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to them. That was regular season thing and a postseason thing.
And this team, whatever chemistry shake up Andrew Friedman made
to this team, adding the best player in baseball never hurts,
They became clutch. They became tough as nails, and it
was such a fun team to watch. So you go
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beyond all my curmudgeon and it was just a fun
experience and I'm real happy about it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I think you want to know what changed. Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Sure, Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know, he wins the game in Game one. You know,
huge home runs in Games two and three, especially early
in the game when they're you know, there's pressure on you,
and you know other guys have that hangover. I think
Freddy Freeman, you know, Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That was the underreported, underrated at bat of the night.
You know, the Yankees are getting a lot of agree
for the way they they threw the ball round in
the fifth, but Freddy Freeman came up with two outs
and the bases loaded, and you have to get that hit,
and he did. He got the hit when the Dodgers
needed him most.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah. I mean, listen, at some point when a guy
does it again and again and again and again, you
just go, hey, that's he's a dude. That was remarkable.
And of course he had done it before when he
was with Atlanta in the World Series, not afraid of
the of the big moment. And then you know, I
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believe this there is something different. The Warriors did it
a couple of years ago when they won an NBA
title in Boston Garden. Just like the Dodgers. It's one
thing to win a World Series. It's another thing to
beat the Yankees. It's a whole other thing to beat
the Yankees in Yankee Stadium and come from behind in
Yankee Stadium when you got idiots like those Han Yackson
right field who thought they're playing defense by trying to
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take the ball out of Mookie BET's glove. You know,
in Game four, you didn't just vanquish the Yankees. You
didn't just beat them in Yankee Stadium. You came from
five to nothing down, then you were down again late
in the game and came back in one. And when
you're out of relievers, you use your Game seven starter
who closed the door. Pretty awesome stuff, and I think
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the ratings were reflect That was a great and memorable
and watchable series. This is the best of the Done
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guys saw this, but Bronnie James scored his first career points.
Here's lebron talking about his son's first NBA bucket.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
To see him get his first NBA basket in this
arena where he grew up not too far away from here, that's.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
An unbelievable moment.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Unbelievable moment for him, you know, first of all, for
our family.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's just pretty cool to be a.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Part of it. It is. But again, as is the case,
like they lost by twenty four points, they were non competitive,
and he's just not like I guess you can make
him an NBA player, but he's not an NBA player,
although he's an NBA player. All right, more on that
in the second though. First, let's get you to Dan Byer.
Get a quick update.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Dan Doug.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Texans and Jets do start week nine to night eight,
fifteen Eastern Time. Jets made a roster move by placing
wide receiver Alan Lazard on injured reserve because of a
chest injury. We are monitoring the situation involving Raven's quarterback
Lamar Jackson, who missed his second straight day of practice
because of knee and back injuries. Packers quarterback Jordan Love
on the practice field. What is going on? What is
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going on here?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Uh? Hey, I think Doug's calling his dog over. I
think that's what it was.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Packers quarterback Jordan Love was on the practice field to
see there is a groin injury. Packers ows the Lions
on Sunday. Running back Josh Jacobs did practice today after
missing yesterday's workout with an ankle issue. On the Lion
side of things, quarterback Jared Goff returned to practice. He
missed yesterday's workout with his sprained ankle. Commanders quarterback Jayden
Daniels limited in practice for the second straight day. They've
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got the Giants on Sunday. Giant, said coach Brian Daboles's
running back Tyron Tracy is on track to clear concussion
protocol and play against Washington Well Bengals wid receiver T
Higgins missed his second straight practice because of a quad injury.
Angels a quiet outfielder Jorge Solo from the Atlanta Braves,
four pitcher of Griffin Channing, and the Dodgers are holding
their World Series parade and rally in La tomorrow. Lake
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are declining the third year option of the contract of
Jalen Jucheffino. Bucks are doing the same with Marjon Bouchamp Doug.
Back to you Stug.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Gott Leib Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Jerry Harrison
joins us fresh off the the culmination of an unbelievable
season by the Dodgers. A great comeback against the Padres,
great comeback last night against the Yankees, of course, said
Jerry's a former Dodger himself Dodger analyst for Spectrum Sports
Net here in La, and he won a World Series
with the Yankees in two thousand and nine. Man, there's
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a lot to dig into. But let's start with the
fifth inning. It's five nothing, and it obviously got away
from from the yank from the Yankees, especially with just
kind of the basic right, just just old school basic,
take a take a fun go and start fielding the
ball boys. What do you think happened to the Yankees there?
Speaker 6 (15:48):
It's just one of those things where you're right, it
happened so quickly and so suddenly because at that point
your cole is dominant, I mean absolutely cruising along for
the first four intings, he didn't surrender a hit. And
then obviously keyk Nanas gets on with the base hit
and a routine fly ball as rootiet as it gets
a center field of Aaron Judge, who is an incredible
player of legend, will tell yourself he should have had it.
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You know, I think he took his eye off the ball.
Maybe in the back of his mind he thought he
could maybe pickoff or a back pick and double off.
Key cary Nana's getting back to first, he takes his
eye off the ball, drops the ball. Now we got
action first and second, nobody out, and then you look
at the base run of Keikranas. He gets in the
way of Rope's throw and it just caused that little
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distraction right there. Does not want to hit key kid
and he throws the ball away and then something doug.
As you know, as a basketball coach former basketball player,
you go through drills in the.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Beginning of camp day one cover first base.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
One cover first base. That is, you know at first base,
you always tell the picture before even start. You look
at the picture, hey, make sure as a reminder. And
it was cute off the bat at Mookie batts, and
it took a funny happened. You know, Anthony Rizzo tried
to smother the ball. If you look back at it,
he's going towards second base. Just make sure he smothers
the ball. And Garrett Cole should have covered first base.
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And when that didn't happen, they scored a run and
you felt the momentum shift instantly, and then up walks
you know who, Freddy Freeman delivers a clutch single and
then obviously Cananis tied the ball came up with a
two run double, and after that, I felt, even though
the Yankees went ahead, after that, I felt the moment
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that shifted and the Dodger were in great position and
they were able to win that game. But you know
what the Yankees. You know, if you watch this team
all year, Yes, they slugged, they hit the home run,
they hit the long ball, but they did the little things.
They didn't play very good defense. Their base running wasn't
good either, and finally the little things came back to.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
The hot of them. Yeah, little things become big things.
That's yeah, you know, it's it's it's really fascinating. You've
seen the Dodgers since the first pitch of spring training.
Obviously there's a ton of pressure on this club because
of because of the sustained success, the investment uh in
the personnel as well. But I like, I know, it's
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a high dollar team with all stars across the board,
But am I wrong? Padres had a better roster and
a better setup When they're up two to one, and
yet the pitchers came through and didn't allow a run
in two straight games and they win. I felt like
that was the moment in which this this group became
a team that wasn't going to lose. Is that is
that fair?
Speaker 6 (18:33):
That that is fair? Especially with the key injuries of
the Dodger sustained. You know, anytime you lose your ace.
Tyler Glasdal did not pick up the ball in the postseason.
Gavin Stone was one of our better pitchers. So you
lose those two guys along with Clayton Kershaw, you are
you're hurting. And then we just got Yemo Motor back.
So listen to Padres had everybody healthy, They had plenty
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of star power in that lineup, and they were poised,
especially in that two to one lead, to knock off
the Dodgers. But I will say this, Doug. You know
this as a former athlete. It just takes one thing,
the light, a spark, and I really believe he just
talking to the guys when Manam Machado threw that ball,
had manager Dave Roberts. Even though they won that game,
that changed the Mets in that Dodger locker room, in
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that Dodger clubhouse, like, oh, you think you can push
us around and throw something at our manager. That ignited
a fire in that team and they came back to
win that series, and they had the Munson going in
the nlcster they played a pretty good and hot Mets team,
but that moment against the Padres. They knew that Padres
were talented, but that little fire under them. They say,
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you know what, we're not going to get pushed around,
even though we're injured, even though we got a couple
of our horses out. We have enough in that clubhouse
to get it done. And boy, they get it done.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
The Freddy Freeman thing's really remarkable, right, I mean, he
hits a home run the first floor and then he
comes through the clutch hit last night, and you know,
obviously and Choehy was not himself here since he heard
his shoulder. Have you seen anything like the Freddy thing?
And it's not like obviously Reggie Jackson three home runs
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in the game, Kirk Gibson home run. We've had great,
uh you know, World Series performances, but the sustain the
sustained excellence, like every game getting a giganticit. You seen
that before I have it.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
You know, Listen, We've had so many postseason performance whether
it's John Smoltz on the Mountain World Series games. You
mentioned Reggie Jackson. He had that three homework game against
the Dodgers in that World Series. But you're right for
him to have like every game he had an impact.
Then obviously the walk off home run, the clutch hits,
he goes in the Yankee Stadium Game three, puts us
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on the board with a home run, and again puts
us on the board with a home run at Yankee
Stadium game four, even though they dropped that game, he
wasn't present, and he had that tremendous press into that
lineup to make you know, things happen with the bat
and also with the glove, and what he had to
go through and endure, listen to go what he had
to go through with his son. That just took so
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much out of him mentally, physically, emotionally, just trying to
be there for his son. And thankfully, his son is
doing a whole lot better and he's on a road
to recovery. But that took a lot out of him.
And then compound that to hurt his ankle. Anytime you've
had a high ankles brand and you know, being a
battball player when I played in high school, I had
a high ankles brain that is not fun. That takes
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four sometimes two months, you know, four weeks or two
months to recover. He was asked to come back in
a week, and he was in so much pain, and
for him to go through all that and get himself
relatively healthy by eighty percent, and have the run he
had at the World Series to carry us to a
World Series title. Freddie Freeman is as good as it
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gets as a person, as good as it gets as
a player. I'm just so happy for him. He deserved
that championship.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Big time stuff. Hey Jerry, I know you're watching your
kid play baseball tonight Baseball day. We appreciate you popping
on and joining us. What an amazing end of the
season and finally the Dodgers getting that monkey out the back.
I do got to ask you last thing, having one
a World Series with the Yankees, do you think it
means something extra that the Dodgers were able to not
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just beat the Yankees, but beat the Yankees in Yankee Stadium?
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I think it's special. Anytime you beat a historic franchise
like the New York Yankees at their place in the
manner they did it, it's special. You would rather do
it at your place, But the next best thing is
to do it at Yankee Stadium against a really good team,
a great franchise, great organization. Again, I still have friends there,
first class organization, and somebody had to lose, and the Dodgers.
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This time prevailed and hopefully this is a recurring thing.
We want to see Yankees World Series hopefully for the
next three to five years. I think it'd be great
for baseball.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I completely agree. Maybe next year we have a show.
Hey on on on the mound, Jerry, enjoy the game,
Good luck to your son. Thanks for being our guest
on Fox Sports Radio anytime.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
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to do cop Looking out at the at Green Bay,
we had thunderstorms last night. You're talking about possible thunderstorms
and still water, Oklahoma. So you guys are going to
the football game, right, You're going to the Arizona State
Oklahoma State homecoming game.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Correct, that's the plan? Yeah, Dan, what are.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Your thoughts on Oklahoma State when they're they're kind of
made up throwback uniforms where they go back to the
Aggies there. Yeah, almost like an Avengers A with some
striping on it. There's a lot going on there. Let's
go to dan By our uniforms expert Danny.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
A lot going on the striping on these sleeves and
then I believe on the socks as well. Yeah, it's
it is quite distracting, maybe distracting from the Big Twelve
conference record right now.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I think that'd be great if we get distract from
the fact that Oklahoma State hasn't won a game in
the Big Twelve despite being picked to win the Big Twelve,
that would be great. I love the distractions.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
I love Oklahoma State's uniforms, and they're one of the
few schools when they actually switch it up, they still
have really good versions. Whether it's the script cowboys, whether
it's the uh what is it pistol pete, the the.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You know, the actual cowboy and the helmets.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
They all look good and I would rather than wear
one of those when I'm in attendance at the game.
But these are okay. I think they're gonna be a
little tough for people to uh get used to on
screen with the stripes on the on the on the sleeves,
but they usually do a pretty good Oklahoma State does I.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Would I would agree, I think. And just so you know,
the original president of Oklahoma stake, I believe that the story.
I never like fact checked it, but he came from
Princeton and Oklahoma State originally was the Tigers. And that's
why people like me say it's the Princeton of the planes,
because that's actually what they called it a long time
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ago when his Oklahoma A and M was the Princeton
of the planes. And that's where the orange and black
comes from. I go a little fun factoid. That's some
other fun fact toys. It's Thursday. It's a throwback Thursday.
Don't believe me. Listen to this.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
We call it a throwback Thursday. This is where we
won't talk about sports. But of course, you know Jay
Stu wants to be an FM morning DJ, and we
know that. You know, we all grew up on Rick
d in the morning. Rick ds in the morning, tell
us what time it is and tell us what the
climate is. Anyway, so we kind of blend the two
(26:10):
here on a Thursday. What year are we doing there?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Jays Dooo, it's funny you mentioned that, Doug, and thank
you All'll take it from here. You had the Rick
DS thing. I always love the twenty four hour news
station in town KNX KFWB.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And it went, there's two, there's kN next ten seventy
new radio.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
And remember KFWB was KFWB News ninety eight. You give
us twenty two minutes. Oh give you the world, the
world right, traffic on the twos, weather on the ones. Anyways,
I want to take us back to twenty ten. Let's
get in the south and the time machine and go
back to twenty ten. Jacks, Yep, there it is. The
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Texans played the Jets. Texans played the Jets. I don't
know if any of you remember this, but think about
who the Jets were in twenty ten. The Jets were
Rex Ryan and that amazing defense. The Jets were also
Mark Sanchez. He did just enough to lead them to
a division title. He did just enough to beat the
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Texans on this night on November twenty first, twenty ten.
Of course, the Texans were led by Arian Foster, who
had his best single season. He rushed for over sixteen
hundred yards that year. Gary Kubiak was a head coach
of the Texans.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
That's a weird name for a black running back, right,
Arian Foster?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Interesting guy, too interesting guy.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Totally interesting guy, and really really talented.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I agree. So yeah, that night Jets played the Texans.
Just like tonight, Mark Sanchez led the Jets over the
Texans thirty to twenty seven. Rex Ryan gave up more
points than he typically did, but he made it work. Dan,
you remember anything else from that NFL season that comes
to mind?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Twenty ten was a season where in the Super Bowl
that was played in the actual year was Saints Colts,
but the season that we have as a whole was
one where Pete Carroll made his debut as the Seahawks
head coach. So that hits home for me because that
was the turnaround or the start of the turnaround. It
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was the season that gave them the Beast quake. They
won the division had seven to nine in twenty ten,
but probably most notably known for the miraculous playoff run
then by the Green Bay Packers on their way to
winning the Super Bowl. But twenty ten Leuve Tom Brady
won the NFL MVP that season, so the Yes, twenty ten,
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that's what stands out to me.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
In the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Oh, Aaron Rodgers beat the Steelers in the Super Bowl. Yes,
And just to bring it around full circle, the Steelers
beat the rex Ryans Jets in the AFC Title Game. So,
I mean, this thing just has so many of the
same connections. It's scary. Sam, you remember anything from twenty ten?
Speaker 7 (29:08):
Well, I remember that Packers run and they finished they
got I think they got the wild card at ten
and six, and they had to beat the Bears to
capture the wild card, and then of course they would
end up playing the Bears in the NFC title game.
It's where Jay Cutler got hurt and everyone gave him
crap for it because I you know, in came the backup.
But he would just never hear the end of that.
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But yeah, I remember Aaron Rodgers playing a game I
think it like the Lions and getting a concussion. There
was a lot of worry about his health and the team.
And they get to ten and six and then they
just they just started destroying people on the way their
way to the Super Bowl Championship. I will say something
about that Jets team. One of my all time favorite Hawkeyes.
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Sean Green was sort of the featured running back for
those Jets when they went to the back to back
AFC title games.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
So that was that was cool with what Danian Tomlinson
in the last couple of years of his career there.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I I'm forget about that good call, good poll.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
In that Packers run.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
The first game of that run, because you mentioned the
Bears at the end of the regular season was even
the week before they beat the New York Giants Atlama
Field day after Christmas. I was home for Christmas. I
went to that game, and that was the start of
the run where you could kind of all of a
sudden start to see. I also think that's the run
where people now would never count out Aaron Rodgers because
of what they did that season to go and win
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that Super Bowl. But that started in yeah, late December
of twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Relax, that was a year the Lakers beat the Celtics, right, yes,
and people forget the the in game seven, Game seven,
the final score was eighty three seventy ninety yikes, and
Kobe Bryant scored twenty three points on twenty six field goals,
and really run our test may probably save the day,
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but an epic seven game showdown where the Lakers returned
home down three games to two after the Celtics won
both games four and five, and Game six was an
absolute pummeling at the end of the Lakers. The Celtics
scored only sixty seven points and Game seven was ugly
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and the Lakers survived eighty three seventy nine.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Was that the series where Paul Pierce almost died? No,
that was No, that was was oh wow, two years off.
I'm way off on there.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Talking about it. When he came into the wheelchair.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, but there's the speculation that maybe he had
had an accident in his pants or something like that.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes, that's the speculation.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, it happens, right, speculation, Yeah, what
do you?
Speaker 3 (31:37):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I think the most memorable game of twenty ten when
it comes to hoops, and I know Doug knows, this
was the National championship game that year. Game that we
referenced a lot in late game situations, or if we're
talking about Cinderellas, that was Duke Butler in Indianapolis that year.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So what happened in that game was Duke and like
there's a lot of different interesting parts of Duke. So
Duke really played one way defensively for maybe the last
fifteen years of Mike Ryzewski's career, they just extended pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure,
and a lot of times that would lead to their
downfalls if people could break that pressure. But if you couldn't,
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you just couldn't run offense against them. Well, that season
they were really struggling defensively based upon their personnel, and
they had a player named Brian Zubek who they installed
in their starting lineup, and he was seven f tall, huge,
huge guy, and he's an outstanding rebounder. And they changed defensively,
played more what's called pack line defense, invented by Dick Bennett,
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who of course occupied the seat that I sit in
now head coach at UW Green Bay before his head
coach Wisconsin and watched the state. Anyway, they changed defensively
and they made it all the way to the National
Chamionship Game where they played Butler in Indianapolis. They were
up one point and that's when Gordon Hayward baseline missed
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a kind of floater from about eight feet. Zubec got
the rebound and was fouled up ones, we made the
first freight throw, and Mike Krzyzewski with like, I don't
know three seconds to go, order his team to order
him to miss the free throw. And look, there is
a thought there where you missed the free throw and
they can't set up a play and it's rushed and
they chuck up a shot, whereas if you make the
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free throw, they can set a play up and Brad
Stevens has a great place. The problem is that brings
losing into the equation. And so the most famous shot,
maybe in the history of college missshot in the history
of college basketball is Gordon Hayward getting a screen and
nearly sinking a mid court shot which would have won
the game. Had they made the free throw. Well, then
even that shot would have just tied the game. After
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the game, coach k was asked about it and he
said it might have been a bit of a mistake,
and it probably was. I think it definitely was. There's
no way you allow losing to be part of the
equation if you don't need it to be. If it's
one to two, that's different. You missed the free throw.
Two to three, you make the free throw, because then
it takes losing out the equation.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
It was also an interesting year in golf doug because
it was the return of Tiger Woods from scandal. So
in twenty ten, after the twenty nine Thanksgiving Day car crash,
Tiger Woods comes back following his rehab stint and also
made his season debut at the Masters twenty ten Masters,
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which was eventually won by Phil Mickelson, holding off likes
of Lee Westwood and others for that crown. But it
was Tiger Woods who made his return after the cheating scandal,
and he made it at the Masters. I was there
for the final round, and I remember it was a
mixed gallery usually former Masters champions, especially somewhat of Tiger's ilk,
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if you will, of what he has accomplished. At Augusta National,
those players get standing ovations where everybody stands. It was
very mixed because people were mixed. There were some who
got to their feet and were applauding him, and he
was kind of in contention as well, but there were
others who refused to at that time. Now we look
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back at that those fourteen years ago, whenever Tiger tees
it up, I think everybody's cheering for him. But there
was a period of time where that wasn't necessarily the case,
and that was in twenty ten when he came back
from the scandal.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And when you say rehab, was it sex rehab?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yes? Yeah, officially.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And was that the masters that he basically had his
first press conference since then? Was that all the hub
ub there?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Yeah, it would have been, because it was his first
event that he had played that yet.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I remember him having one specific answer to how he's
kind of recuperating and getting better as a person, and
he said that he's returning to his Buddhism. And I said,
to the Jim Rome crew off the you mean you're
returning to your bootyism, Yeah, and that they kind of
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dismissed that as a very sophomoric joke. I swear to Gosh,
I'm watching Jay Leno. A couple of nights later, he
said the exact joke. He said that joke in front
of millions of people in nationwide, validating my sense of humor.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
He played well that week, he did. We also thought
maybe Anthony Kim would have a chance. It didn't happen.
Graham mcdallan ended up winning the US Open that year,
Louisuse Taysen was the winner of the Open Championship, and
then Martin Kaimer at Whistling Straights, Doug just down the
road from you, about an hour or so away a
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little more maybe claimed the PGA Championship in a playoff
beating Bubba Watson in twenty ten, and then the US
lost the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Speaking of that, Speaking of Bubba Watson, I remember he
had used to wear his iPod when he would was
at the driving ring and he used to have this
in his butts. Justin Bieber releases his iconic song Baby,
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and then the rest is history. I will say this
about Justin Bieber. Back then, these songs were really a
big hit with teenage girls, and he he became a
superstar because of that. I really appreciate the evolution of
Justin Bieber's career. He parlayed this like teeny pop thing
into like a very respectable hip hop artist where all
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these other hip hop artists are willing to collaborate with him.
And I must say, you know, the pandemic was a
tough time on all of us. I listened to a
lot of Bieber hip hop collapse. That was kind of
my way to escape.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
So just with a lot of the rumors of what
went on with the did he help his career?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Oh you had to bring in Diddy? Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I mean it's part of it, right, of course, it's.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
It's a big part of it now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
But yeah, this number one ring song that year, do
you know what it is?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
I think so. I think one number one.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
No Number one song in that year was Kesha.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Oh okay, so too Kesha.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
The song that I don't know if it charted or not,
but I think the most popular, like social media phenomenon
was Rebecca Black's Friday.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
That's a terrible song, absolutely awful.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I've never heard that song.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
We'll play tomorrow Friday. I never heard Friday, We'll play I've.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Heard Friday, but a different Friday version of Friday from
from the From the Wretched Movie soundtrack Friday.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I'm guessing you've run into Rebecca Black down in Orange County.
I think she was like a Newport Beach resident. Never
heard of her now the movie.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Really, this is the first time I've heard that person,
Like I was I'm what was it Shack's thing? I
was not aware of of your game or something like
that TikTok need to Know by Lady and Debellom that's
too Hay Soul's Sisters three by Train, California Girls by
Kay Berry with Snoop dogg on it a O MG
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by Usher Oh man, ye was.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
It was five Usher? He had another another tie here?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Now the movie that I know you really like. I
think the first movie came out despickleb on me.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
That Love our Family. That's a great movie. Do that,
but do that, fucked do that right? Uh that was
the first time we met grew and is uh really
hard to please mother. We will steal the moon now thing.
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You guys know nothing.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I love Steve Kurl. I've never seen any the Despicable
Meme movies.
Speaker 7 (40:05):
You haven't seen this well, I think you were raising
kids so it made sense to see it, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
But no, I know of all the minions and all that,
and I'm a huge Steve Curl.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Minions are the same right right.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
I know I'm saying I know about them, like I
know I've seen them and memes and all that stuff.
But uh, we would be remiss though, if we didn't
talk about college football that year, which was really it
was the story of Auburn.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Winning was that?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yep? Cam Newton twenty two.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
We're talking twenty ten, they won the twenty of The
Auburn Tigers won the twenty eleven BCS National championship against Oregon.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Who is Dan I believe coach by Chip Kelly that year?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yes? Yes, yeah? Why do we always do this? The
twenty ten season was the fall of twenty ten? Was
Cam Newton?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah? And then they won the national championship Heisman?
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah? Yeah? But how much do you remember of the
story there, Sammy, because you weren't very old.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
I was in my twenties. He I know, you know
with Cam Newton or of like the season he was
a quarterback at Florida if I'm not mistaken, and I
believe he got into some trouble for like taking a
laptop yep, and then he went to He.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Was the backup to Tim Tebow. Yeah, went to junior college,
won a junior college national team, went to Auburn, and
then people were like, oh that's funny. Dan Mullens recruited
in Florida, yet he went to Auburn. Why would you
go to Auburn when you could have gone Mississippi State,
which by the way was the spot occupied I think
eventually by uh the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
Anyway, with Cam Newton with the Auburn Tigers the year before,
because I remember that they played Northwestern in some crazy
bowl game that was like a back and forth.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
No, he only played one year at Auburn. Okay, okay,
playing junior college one year, one year at Florida. Didn't
play one year in junior college, one year at Auburn. And
he actually remember he he snuck the ball, like didn't
he Yer in the National Chamisor game. Didn't he like
sneak it and he could have lost the ball and
felt like a really selfish play. I forget to play.
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They won that one on their running back looking like
he was down and Oregon stopped playing and he got
up and kept running.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Was it Michael Dyer?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yes, Oregon fans still not happy with that one.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
That was the last year of Jim Trussel at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
There was there was a lot of talk about like, uh,
at Mississippi State had offered him money and he turned
down missed like one hundred and fifty for Misissippi State,
and like, well, if you turn out on hundred of
Misissippi State. You didn't go to Auburn free. That doesn't happen.
And they were like, no, it's his dad, and his
dad was supposedly not allowed in the stadium. Then dad's
on the camera shots.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Was that also the year of the kick six with
Bam Movers?
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I'm sorry?
Speaker 7 (42:49):
No, no, no, no no. Did they won by a point?
Though at Alabama? Didn't they check?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I don't know. It wasn't the kick six?
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah? They won by Yes, they did win twenty eight,
twenty seven. At least I got that part right. Perfect timing.
Song just ended. Don't call it a throwback, throw back
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