November 1, 2024 • 18 mins
Doug riffs on the college football weekend. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Cam Newton makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the bonus with Doug gottlie What.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
I Heart Radio app. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. Let's get
you ready for a college football weekend. Ohio State Penn
State is in fact the big game, but oftentimes when
we study that big game, it's the other games that
(00:31):
jump up and get our attention. Right, I don't think
Michigan without a quarterback can be competitive with Oregon. Although
Oregon again on the road in the Big Ten across
the country, this stuff the Wisconsin trip in two weeks,
that's gonna be interesting. Indiana goes to Michigan State seven
and a half point favorites. Indiana has thumped everybody, but
again on the road in the Big Ten, going to
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be at least interesting. Ole Miss at Arkansas, that's a
good one. But Penn State Ohio State. And it's really
interesting here because you have two fan bases who they
have expectations of competing for and winning a national title,
and James Franklin, for whatever reason, doesn't totally endear himself
to some Penn State fans. A lot of college football
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fans when I don't know, Penn State has been really,
really good in Ohio State, of course, the big knock
on Ryan Day is what does he do in the
big games? And there is no bigger game than Penn State.
I guess Michigan, but not this year. Is Penn State
on the road. This is a really big one because
you know, reputations are established in games like this. They
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just are. And for Ohio State, who has nearly lost
and then did lose in a close one to Oregon,
they can still survive and get to the College Ball playoffs.
They lose this weekend, but it definitely puts them in
can't lose another game sort of territory. And the other
thing I would tell you about it we had Kelly
Ford on yesterday, is I'm not telling you that I
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don't love my life league in the Big twelve or
know that the ACC has had a tremendous amount of
talent in the past, but the SEC is so much
better at the top than the rest of these leagues.
We're talking about LSU in Texas and Alabama and Georgia
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and A and M and yeah, Notre Dame came in
and popped a and M sure close game, and yeah
LSU lost that opening game two years in a row,
and yeah old missus US. But the attrition of playing
in that league. Just look at Oklahoma like they're having
a disastrous season and they're more talented than they were
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last year. Look at Colorado in the season they're having
this year. They're a little bit more talented, but they
got a chance to win the Big Twelve. Why pig
Twel's not that good? Pac twelve last year was SEC,
this year is Big Ten's a step below the SEC,
but still above that of everybody else. It's really hard
in college sports because everybody loves her on school and
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then even if it's not your school, if they're in
your conference, they're like family. But the reality is the
SEC is far and away the best league. And in football,
it's not just about your top level talent, it's about
the depth of that talent, and they have in the
SEC and they just don't elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
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Speaker 2 (03:28):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And now it's your annoying, all.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Right, Doug's let's dive into Malchai Corley. Let's dive into
it earlier in the week. It's funny because we already
had this discussion. And remember Sunday two things happened that
I thought were just typical gen Z bullshit, but I
still am in need of an explanation. So on Sunday
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we had Tyreek Stevenson choosing to rub it in the
fans face instead of defend a hail Mary. And then
we also had Kyle Pitts dropping the ball at the
end zone, but he got away with it because the
instant replay confirmed a touchdown. Last night, Malachi Corley, I
guess he's a rookie for the Jets, scores what had
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been ruled a touchdown. He drops the ball an inch
before the end zone and it's overturned. I think this
is his first career touchdown er it would have been,
and it's overturned. This is what Kirk Kerbstreet said in
the moment. Why did the heck is he thinking?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Why the urgency for some of these guys could drop
the ball before they even if it's close.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
What finished the play? Absolutely the zone?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
So Kirk asks the question that I need answers to.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Why.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So, Kirk Kurbstreet's probably my age. Al Michaels is ninety
years old. Two old white guys are not going to
know the answer to why. So could somebody please ask
the player why? The coach of the Jets said this
about the play afterwards.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
First of all, you can't do that, and second of all, yo,
what's one Definitely frustrated, you know, to be honest and
angry at the same time, but what an amazing opportunity
for this kid to grow and learn from. You know,
I promise you ten years from now, when he's still
playing in this league, that will never happen again.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So I went on Twitter and I said, honest question,
I'm not joking here, why did he do that? Why
do they do this? And no one gave me an
answer that was suitable. So I asked you and Sam, like,
why are they dropping the ball before the end zone?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Why would you? I guess my question to you is
why do you think this is the gen Z thing?
This has happened for twenty years, every year, every single year.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
That still doesn't answer the question why.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know. I just I think people lose their mind.
Have you ever scored touchdown?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I've never scored.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Nope, Okay, pure elation. Right, so you get there, pure elation,
and then you just, I guess, lose your mind. It's
the only possible explanation.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
So that's an explanation though that so you're saying there's
no intent. No, they are not purposefully doing that to
somehow rub it in the other team's face to look
cool as kind of an ego stroke for their buddies
back home. Because these are answers that I got on
why but how about this? Why don't we ask the
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actual player who did it? Kyle Pitts wasn't asked on
Sunday and Malachai was not made available last night. So
the annoying part for me is that I am a person,
a reasonable educated person, looking for the answer to one
question that hasn't been asked, and in the last two minutes,
not you or me or saying I haven't been in
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one answer. I don't get it. I just don't understand it.
If it's done on purpose, it might be the dumbest
thing to ever do on a sports field. But I again,
I need an answer to it all that's annoying to me.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It is annoying. I totally understand. I feel for you
in many ways there, but I just the only thing
I can think of is like, remember, you're playing a
sport where there's a better than I don't know, fifteen
percent chance you're gonna have brain damage after playing that sport,
which leads you to believe you might not be the
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most thoughtful person in the world. As far as the
all around effects of football, I don't know. There's a
bunch of different reasons I get to but I really
think it's you just it's like an out of body
experience if you ever asked. I remember in Jared Maguire
right where he starts dancing in the end zone like
had on dance, Like you just kind of lose your
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mind there. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
You're caught up in the moment, caught up in the moment,
You're you're experiencing this whole touchdown run. It is like
a blur run into the end zone. You're just you're
not thinking about am I over the goal line? You're
just like, I've run into the end zone with the
ball and you're dropping it and you're just yeah, he
just dropped it too soon.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Again, don't know why they do it, but that's the
only plausible explanation to me.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
What else is? What else is upsetting here?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I just need I need them to Did you do
that on purpose? And why did you do it? Did
you do on purp?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Why would anybody do it on purpose?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Because it's it's a way of it's almost like when
and this is a much more mild example when man
in Machado chooses to stand at home plate and watch
a ball that might go out and then it bounces
off the wall and gets a single, like he's choosing
in that moment to show up the team as opposed
(08:52):
to do what the right sports play is. And it
just seems like when you drop the ball at the
one inch line, you're showing the other team up in
some ways, shape or form on purpose, because as you stated,
it's happened repeatedly and I have yet to get an explanation.
But anyways, let's talk about the twenty twenty World Series
(09:13):
title real fast. It's been a big point of contention
among Dodger fans. I was listening to a five seventy
our sister station here in La yesterday, and there was
an entire segment on the Rogan and Rodney show callers
and all about the twenty twenty title. I've always been
to the belief that Alex Verdugo, Alex Verdugo used to
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be a Dodger, now he's a Yankee. He made the
final out of the World series. I think Walker Bueller
was referring to him when he said this after the
game five quinter.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Two years off to surgeries. It's a lot for our organization.
We deserve this. We've been playing really good baseball for
a lot of years and twenty twenty and whatever, but
they can't say a whole lot about it now.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So thanks to Keike Hernandez, the dump button person at
Fox is really on his game. So we missed that.
But the Walker Buwer said people been talking a lot
of shit about twenty twenty and now they could shut up.
Max Munsey said after the clincher that people called that
twenty twenty World series a Mickey Mouse World series. Now
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they could shut the fuck up. Dodger players are very
defensive about this one, and this is what Alex Vrdugo said.
This is verbatim what Alex Vradugo said. A sixty game season.
It's still hard to judge to this day, Like, yeah,
it's a World Series, right, Yeah, it's like they got
the ring, but they didn't play any games at their
home field. They didn't, they weren't. There weren't any fans there.
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It was sixty game season. Anybody can ball out for
sixty games. That extra one O two is a big difference.
They won it. It's true one it counts, but I
still call it as I see it, it's a sixty gamer.
I have no problems with this. I have no problems
with this description of the twenty twenty title. I have
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said similar things, and I will say this, the twenty
twenty title would have not been meaningless as meaningless if
the Dodgers had surrounded it with titles. If they had
won it in twenty eighteen and then came back and
won it in twenty three, the twenty twenty title would
be easy to include in the mix. But the more
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it's was there on its own, the more it was
an ice ore in an exception, and that's why people
have discounted it over the years, that it was kind
of a fluke. You couldn't win it the normal way,
and you just kind of won that Disneyland title whatever
they call it. So anyways, what's annoying about this is
that current Dodger players are obviously annoyed by the way
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that that title has been described for the last four years.
I say, get over it, and you winning this title
this week gives more credibility to the twenty twenty title. Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I hate to break it to you, but this has
nothing to do with the twenty twenty title zero. It's
just I mean, it's complete fan bullshit. Sorry, don't get
me wrong. I actually think the twenty twenty thing. It's
just different. They won a tournament, right, that's it, condensed season.
They want a tournament like the Spurs one. I think
two titles during lockout shortened seasons. Nobody ever mentions that
(12:33):
I've never understood that, right. Nobody ever mentions that I
understand that you were isolated and there wasn't as many fans,
you weren't playing on the road. I get all that
same thing with the Lakers, but you still had to
beat the other teams in a series. In many ways,
it's a more pure form of who the better team
was that year. Look, there's a lot of things that
went with the Lakers. You know, teams that they played.
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The Clippers just shut it down, kind of emotionally didn't
want to be there. The Lakers didn't really want to
be there either, But then they had two extra days
off because of the riots in Milwaukee and it kind
of helped them gain their balance when their families arrived.
So there's a lot of other stories parts to it.
But you know, look, if that makes you feel better,
it makes you feel like twenty twenty is now a
legit title because you won twenty twenty four. Fine, reality is,
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it's not the case. Shoeyotani wasn't on that team. Who else?
I mean, look at the pitching staff, remarkably different, most
of the lineup remarkably different, And I just I think
they have a great team, a great organization. Last year,
they clearly didn't spend the money they needed in the
places they needed, and they're probably holding off for the show.
(13:39):
Hey thing holding off for I'm sorry the other Japanese
pitcher who was outstanding when he got a shot in
the postseason, But I just like two seasons five years
apart that doesn't do it for me.
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Speaker 4 (14:02):
As we're recording this, I'm looking at images of the
local Los Angeles news of the Dodgers parade. I don't
know if it's begun yet. It looks like it's about
to begin. Who knows. Anyways, there are hundreds and hundreds
of thousands of people in the streets. This is not
like a WNBA celebration. This is this is the there's
the WNBA celebration and then the opposite end of the spectrum.
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There are way too many people in the crowded streets.
In fact, on most sportsbooks right now, the over under
is three and a half for the number of homeless
people run over by parade bus.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Over under.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I don't know, not very many. But I hate the
victory parade thing. I just do. I think it's it's
I don't know, you know, I mean, based on all
the athletes get super super drunk, and you got lots
people that say they're fans are really just showing up
and taking off work. I don't know. I have zero
desire to ever show up at a victory parade.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
No, no, I will never do it. So in general, victory
parades are annoying. Yes, I'm gonna make this one caveat
for today. God bless these hundreds and hundreds of thousands
of people that are on this parade route today. God
bless them. They deserve it. They couldn't get a parade
in twenty twenty yep. If most of them aren't alive
in eighty eight.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
And for a lot of these Latino Mexican American fans,
it's Fernando's birthday. It's a heavy heart day. It's just
they deserve it. So even though I would never be
caught dead doing it, I really, I really feel for
all these people.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I respect it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, exactly, I got it.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So victory parades are annoying? Are annoying? Are they the
most annoying thing?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think the people that are correlating twenty twenty twenty
twenty four, I just to me, that's just an annoying
It's not close to being the same. It doesn't have
any correlation. If anything, If you're saying that twenty twenty
makes twenty twenty four makes twenty twenty a more righteous win. Like,
actually think that takes away from twenty twenty four, Make
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no mistake about it. Twenty twenty four they were dead
to rights beaten by the San Diego Padres. Padres had
a better roster, they were healthier, they were talking all
kinds of shit, and you know what, the Dodgers turned
around and baggled them two straight games, didn't give up
a run, beat them, smoked the Mets, and honestly smoked
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the smoke the Yankees as well, five game series against
the New York Yankees, winning two or three games in
Yankee Stadium. I just let's not take away from what
those guys accomplished, so that that's correlating or or somehow
making a point about twenty twenty because of five years later.
No thanks, Why.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Cam Newton makes this segment a lot, so I really
I appreciate him for this. He just went on his
podcast and he had something to say about Anthony Richardson
calling out of a game.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You're in the big leagues now, guy, he's the big league.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
A lot of guys are in college and they're thinking
like oh, man, Bro, I'm gonna dominate. No, you just
think you're gonna do what Lamar Jackson does. You just
think you're gonna do what Peyton Manning and Tom Brady do.
You think you're just gonna do what Lamar Jackson do? No, Bro, No, No,
it's not This shit ain't easy. This game is not easy.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I mean it's pretty obvious that not starting and
you know, having to earn his the respect back is
all part of this backlash. I do think it's fascinating
how guys that played, and I think at there was
a point which Cam became more of a worker. But
let's not kid ourselves. It wasn't like he was a
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huge worker early on in his NFL career. He was
like Anthony Richardson, just all God given talent and a
ton of work ethic in terms of his body. But
he did eventually become a worker and buy into all
the different cerebral aspects of being a quarterback and a
good scolding never hurt anybody ever. Why can we play
(18:27):
it for you? Because we can. That's it for the
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
I Heart Radio app. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. Let's get
you ready for a college football weekend. Ohio State Penn
State is in fact the big game, but oftentimes when
we study that big game, it's the other games that
(00:31):
jump up and get our attention. Right, I don't think
Michigan without a quarterback can be competitive with Oregon. Although
Oregon again on the road in the Big Ten across
the country, this stuff the Wisconsin trip in two weeks,
that's gonna be interesting. Indiana goes to Michigan State seven
and a half point favorites. Indiana has thumped everybody, but
again on the road in the Big Ten, going to
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be at least interesting. Ole Miss at Arkansas, that's a
good one. But Penn State Ohio State. And it's really
interesting here because you have two fan bases who they
have expectations of competing for and winning a national title,
and James Franklin, for whatever reason, doesn't totally endear himself
to some Penn State fans. A lot of college football
(01:14):
fans when I don't know, Penn State has been really,
really good in Ohio State, of course, the big knock
on Ryan Day is what does he do in the
big games? And there is no bigger game than Penn State.
I guess Michigan, but not this year. Is Penn State
on the road. This is a really big one because
you know, reputations are established in games like this. They
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just are. And for Ohio State, who has nearly lost
and then did lose in a close one to Oregon,
they can still survive and get to the College Ball playoffs.
They lose this weekend, but it definitely puts them in
can't lose another game sort of territory. And the other
thing I would tell you about it we had Kelly
Ford on yesterday, is I'm not telling you that I
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don't love my life league in the Big twelve or
know that the ACC has had a tremendous amount of
talent in the past, but the SEC is so much
better at the top than the rest of these leagues.
We're talking about LSU in Texas and Alabama and Georgia
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and A and M and yeah, Notre Dame came in
and popped a and M sure close game, and yeah
LSU lost that opening game two years in a row,
and yeah old missus US. But the attrition of playing
in that league. Just look at Oklahoma like they're having
a disastrous season and they're more talented than they were
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last year. Look at Colorado in the season they're having
this year. They're a little bit more talented, but they
got a chance to win the Big Twelve. Why pig
Twel's not that good? Pac twelve last year was SEC,
this year is Big Ten's a step below the SEC,
but still above that of everybody else. It's really hard
in college sports because everybody loves her on school and
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then even if it's not your school, if they're in
your conference, they're like family. But the reality is the
SEC is far and away the best league. And in football,
it's not just about your top level talent, it's about
the depth of that talent, and they have in the
SEC and they just don't elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
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Speaker 2 (03:28):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And now it's your annoying, all.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Right, Doug's let's dive into Malchai Corley. Let's dive into
it earlier in the week. It's funny because we already
had this discussion. And remember Sunday two things happened that
I thought were just typical gen Z bullshit, but I
still am in need of an explanation. So on Sunday
(04:02):
we had Tyreek Stevenson choosing to rub it in the
fans face instead of defend a hail Mary. And then
we also had Kyle Pitts dropping the ball at the
end zone, but he got away with it because the
instant replay confirmed a touchdown. Last night, Malachi Corley, I
guess he's a rookie for the Jets, scores what had
(04:25):
been ruled a touchdown. He drops the ball an inch
before the end zone and it's overturned. I think this
is his first career touchdown er it would have been,
and it's overturned. This is what Kirk Kerbstreet said in
the moment. Why did the heck is he thinking?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Why the urgency for some of these guys could drop
the ball before they even if it's close.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
What finished the play? Absolutely the zone?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
So Kirk asks the question that I need answers to.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Why.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So, Kirk Kurbstreet's probably my age. Al Michaels is ninety
years old. Two old white guys are not going to
know the answer to why. So could somebody please ask
the player why? The coach of the Jets said this
about the play afterwards.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
First of all, you can't do that, and second of all, yo,
what's one Definitely frustrated, you know, to be honest and
angry at the same time, but what an amazing opportunity
for this kid to grow and learn from. You know,
I promise you ten years from now, when he's still
playing in this league, that will never happen again.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So I went on Twitter and I said, honest question,
I'm not joking here, why did he do that? Why
do they do this? And no one gave me an
answer that was suitable. So I asked you and Sam, like,
why are they dropping the ball before the end zone?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Why would you? I guess my question to you is
why do you think this is the gen Z thing?
This has happened for twenty years, every year, every single year.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
That still doesn't answer the question why.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know. I just I think people lose their mind.
Have you ever scored touchdown?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I've never scored.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Nope, Okay, pure elation. Right, so you get there, pure elation,
and then you just, I guess, lose your mind. It's
the only possible explanation.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
So that's an explanation though that so you're saying there's
no intent. No, they are not purposefully doing that to
somehow rub it in the other team's face to look
cool as kind of an ego stroke for their buddies
back home. Because these are answers that I got on
why but how about this? Why don't we ask the
(06:37):
actual player who did it? Kyle Pitts wasn't asked on
Sunday and Malachai was not made available last night. So
the annoying part for me is that I am a person,
a reasonable educated person, looking for the answer to one
question that hasn't been asked, and in the last two minutes,
not you or me or saying I haven't been in
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one answer. I don't get it. I just don't understand it.
If it's done on purpose, it might be the dumbest
thing to ever do on a sports field. But I again,
I need an answer to it all that's annoying to me.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It is annoying. I totally understand. I feel for you
in many ways there, but I just the only thing
I can think of is like, remember, you're playing a
sport where there's a better than I don't know, fifteen
percent chance you're gonna have brain damage after playing that sport,
which leads you to believe you might not be the
(07:36):
most thoughtful person in the world. As far as the
all around effects of football, I don't know. There's a
bunch of different reasons I get to but I really
think it's you just it's like an out of body
experience if you ever asked. I remember in Jared Maguire
right where he starts dancing in the end zone like
had on dance, Like you just kind of lose your
(07:57):
mind there. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
You're caught up in the moment, caught up in the moment,
You're you're experiencing this whole touchdown run. It is like
a blur run into the end zone. You're just you're
not thinking about am I over the goal line? You're
just like, I've run into the end zone with the
ball and you're dropping it and you're just yeah, he
just dropped it too soon.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Again, don't know why they do it, but that's the
only plausible explanation to me.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
What else is? What else is upsetting here?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I just need I need them to Did you do
that on purpose? And why did you do it? Did
you do on purp?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Why would anybody do it on purpose?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Because it's it's a way of it's almost like when
and this is a much more mild example when man
in Machado chooses to stand at home plate and watch
a ball that might go out and then it bounces
off the wall and gets a single, like he's choosing
in that moment to show up the team as opposed
(08:52):
to do what the right sports play is. And it
just seems like when you drop the ball at the
one inch line, you're showing the other team up in
some ways, shape or form on purpose, because as you stated,
it's happened repeatedly and I have yet to get an explanation.
But anyways, let's talk about the twenty twenty World Series
(09:13):
title real fast. It's been a big point of contention
among Dodger fans. I was listening to a five seventy
our sister station here in La yesterday, and there was
an entire segment on the Rogan and Rodney show callers
and all about the twenty twenty title. I've always been
to the belief that Alex Verdugo, Alex Verdugo used to
(09:35):
be a Dodger, now he's a Yankee. He made the
final out of the World series. I think Walker Bueller
was referring to him when he said this after the
game five quinter.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Two years off to surgeries. It's a lot for our organization.
We deserve this. We've been playing really good baseball for
a lot of years and twenty twenty and whatever, but
they can't say a whole lot about it now.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So thanks to Keike Hernandez, the dump button person at
Fox is really on his game. So we missed that.
But the Walker Buwer said people been talking a lot
of shit about twenty twenty and now they could shut up.
Max Munsey said after the clincher that people called that
twenty twenty World series a Mickey Mouse World series. Now
(10:27):
they could shut the fuck up. Dodger players are very
defensive about this one, and this is what Alex Vrdugo said.
This is verbatim what Alex Vradugo said. A sixty game season.
It's still hard to judge to this day, Like, yeah,
it's a World Series, right, Yeah, it's like they got
the ring, but they didn't play any games at their
home field. They didn't, they weren't. There weren't any fans there.
(10:49):
It was sixty game season. Anybody can ball out for
sixty games. That extra one O two is a big difference.
They won it. It's true one it counts, but I
still call it as I see it, it's a sixty gamer.
I have no problems with this. I have no problems
with this description of the twenty twenty title. I have
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said similar things, and I will say this, the twenty
twenty title would have not been meaningless as meaningless if
the Dodgers had surrounded it with titles. If they had
won it in twenty eighteen and then came back and
won it in twenty three, the twenty twenty title would
be easy to include in the mix. But the more
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it's was there on its own, the more it was
an ice ore in an exception, and that's why people
have discounted it over the years, that it was kind
of a fluke. You couldn't win it the normal way,
and you just kind of won that Disneyland title whatever
they call it. So anyways, what's annoying about this is
that current Dodger players are obviously annoyed by the way
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that that title has been described for the last four years.
I say, get over it, and you winning this title
this week gives more credibility to the twenty twenty title. Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I hate to break it to you, but this has
nothing to do with the twenty twenty title zero. It's
just I mean, it's complete fan bullshit. Sorry, don't get
me wrong. I actually think the twenty twenty thing. It's
just different. They won a tournament, right, that's it, condensed season.
They want a tournament like the Spurs one. I think
two titles during lockout shortened seasons. Nobody ever mentions that
(12:33):
I've never understood that, right. Nobody ever mentions that I
understand that you were isolated and there wasn't as many fans,
you weren't playing on the road. I get all that
same thing with the Lakers, but you still had to
beat the other teams in a series. In many ways,
it's a more pure form of who the better team
was that year. Look, there's a lot of things that
went with the Lakers. You know, teams that they played.
(12:54):
The Clippers just shut it down, kind of emotionally didn't
want to be there. The Lakers didn't really want to
be there either, But then they had two extra days
off because of the riots in Milwaukee and it kind
of helped them gain their balance when their families arrived.
So there's a lot of other stories parts to it.
But you know, look, if that makes you feel better,
it makes you feel like twenty twenty is now a
legit title because you won twenty twenty four. Fine, reality is,
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it's not the case. Shoeyotani wasn't on that team. Who else?
I mean, look at the pitching staff, remarkably different, most
of the lineup remarkably different, And I just I think
they have a great team, a great organization. Last year,
they clearly didn't spend the money they needed in the
places they needed, and they're probably holding off for the show.
(13:39):
Hey thing holding off for I'm sorry the other Japanese
pitcher who was outstanding when he got a shot in
the postseason, But I just like two seasons five years
apart that doesn't do it for me.
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Speaker 4 (14:02):
As we're recording this, I'm looking at images of the
local Los Angeles news of the Dodgers parade. I don't
know if it's begun yet. It looks like it's about
to begin. Who knows. Anyways, there are hundreds and hundreds
of thousands of people in the streets. This is not
like a WNBA celebration. This is this is the there's
the WNBA celebration and then the opposite end of the spectrum.
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There are way too many people in the crowded streets.
In fact, on most sportsbooks right now, the over under
is three and a half for the number of homeless
people run over by parade bus.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Over under.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I don't know, not very many. But I hate the
victory parade thing. I just do. I think it's it's
I don't know, you know, I mean, based on all
the athletes get super super drunk, and you got lots
people that say they're fans are really just showing up
and taking off work. I don't know. I have zero
desire to ever show up at a victory parade.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
No, no, I will never do it. So in general, victory
parades are annoying. Yes, I'm gonna make this one caveat
for today. God bless these hundreds and hundreds of thousands
of people that are on this parade route today. God
bless them. They deserve it. They couldn't get a parade
in twenty twenty yep. If most of them aren't alive
in eighty eight.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
And for a lot of these Latino Mexican American fans,
it's Fernando's birthday. It's a heavy heart day. It's just
they deserve it. So even though I would never be
caught dead doing it, I really, I really feel for
all these people.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I respect it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, exactly, I got it.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So victory parades are annoying? Are annoying? Are they the
most annoying thing?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I think the people that are correlating twenty twenty twenty
twenty four, I just to me, that's just an annoying
It's not close to being the same. It doesn't have
any correlation. If anything, If you're saying that twenty twenty
makes twenty twenty four makes twenty twenty a more righteous win. Like,
actually think that takes away from twenty twenty four, Make
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no mistake about it. Twenty twenty four they were dead
to rights beaten by the San Diego Padres. Padres had
a better roster, they were healthier, they were talking all
kinds of shit, and you know what, the Dodgers turned
around and baggled them two straight games, didn't give up
a run, beat them, smoked the Mets, and honestly smoked
(16:39):
the smoke the Yankees as well, five game series against
the New York Yankees, winning two or three games in
Yankee Stadium. I just let's not take away from what
those guys accomplished, so that that's correlating or or somehow
making a point about twenty twenty because of five years later.
No thanks, Why.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Cam Newton makes this segment a lot, so I really
I appreciate him for this. He just went on his
podcast and he had something to say about Anthony Richardson
calling out of a game.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You're in the big leagues now, guy, he's the big league.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
A lot of guys are in college and they're thinking
like oh, man, Bro, I'm gonna dominate. No, you just
think you're gonna do what Lamar Jackson does. You just
think you're gonna do what Peyton Manning and Tom Brady do.
You think you're just gonna do what Lamar Jackson do? No, Bro, No, No,
it's not This shit ain't easy. This game is not easy.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I mean it's pretty obvious that not starting and
you know, having to earn his the respect back is
all part of this backlash. I do think it's fascinating
how guys that played, and I think at there was
a point which Cam became more of a worker. But
let's not kid ourselves. It wasn't like he was a
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huge worker early on in his NFL career. He was
like Anthony Richardson, just all God given talent and a
ton of work ethic in terms of his body. But
he did eventually become a worker and buy into all
the different cerebral aspects of being a quarterback and a
good scolding never hurt anybody ever. Why can we play
(18:27):
it for you? Because we can. That's it for the
End of the Moments podcast. Check out the radio show every
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