November 1, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug talks about what went right for the Jets in their win Thursday night, and gets into the Malachi Corley ball drop at the goal line. Doug welcomes former Bucs' General Manager Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about the Jets, Texans and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan takes Doug through a game of "I Got Dibbs!"
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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probably about fifteen years ago that says, I ain't as
good as I once was, but I'm as good once
as I ever was. And it wasn't a virtuoso in
the first half, matter of fact, it was super super ugly.
But in the second half, Aaron Rodgers was pretty damn outstanding.
I mean, even the most ardent Aaron Rodgers hater out
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there were like he made some throws that were pretty
good and they end up winning a game which I
was wrong about, helped at least slightly by the fact
that the Houston Texans kicker missed was a cal fuarburn.
He missed a chip shot, and kind of everything fell
apart after that. Here's Jetster interim coach Jeff Olbrich discussing
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the win.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
A really cool game for this team, man, after three
weeks of a lot of adversity, a lot of stetbacks,
some self imposed for them to have the resiliency and
to come back and played the way they did against
a really good an opponent, it's probable.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Here is Aaron Rodgers after the game.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Kind of season on the line there in second half.
Obviously we wouldn't have been mathematically eliminated, but mentally to
go to two and seven would have been real tough.
Hopefully it's kept this confidence that we can beat anybody,
because we feel like we could. The way we played
on offense in the second half is the way we've
been kind of waiting for this offense to wake up.
And I know obviously I was, you know, close to
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perfection as I needed to be, but that's the standard
I need to play at.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah. I mean, look, he had thirty seven yards passing
at the half, and he played really well in the
second half. Maybe the biggest takeaway, there's two tegaways in
the game. First is now I got let's go with three.
Here's the takeaways. One Aaron Rodgers ain't as good as
he once was, but he's as good once as he
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ever was. And throw to Devonte Adams amazing. Some other
throws that were outstanding, and a lot of this is
we talked about it this week about the ratio of things.
You know, when you're in your prime, four out of
five games you're incredible. When you're at the end of it,
there's like one out of five games you're incredible. And
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it's how often you can be just solid to above
average because there's going to be a stinker and they'll
occur more often the older that you are. It makes sense, right,
So that's the first takeaway. The second one is that
something wrong with the Texans, whether it's the injuries to
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their wide receivers or whether it's the fact their offensive
line's not good. There's some regression from CJ. Stroud. Here's CJ.
Stroud after the game.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
You know it'll come out here on Primeship game and
you know, get embarrassed like that is never fun. And
you know, I believe, you know, we have to be
better in a lot of areas, you know, and that
starts with me. You know, I think there's players I
gotta make, girls, I gotta make you know, times I
got to send the pocket and just trust my guys.
So I really point to figure, I mean realize, you know,
I got to be better as a football player. And
you know, if we want to win, this is not
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the rest before. We got to learn how to dominate.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
By the way. That's what you're supposed to sound like,
even when it's not your fault. That's how you're supposed
to sound. So if anybody says, like, well, why are
you so, why do you guys get such a big
like there's a starting quarterback, he's in his second year,
and whether any of the issues are his, the offensive lines,
the play calling, there was none of this did everybody
Else's why? CJ. Stroud's a stud leads you to believe
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he'll be fine, but he's not playing fine. He's playing rushed.
He mentioned trust and there's some issues there with that team.
The last takeaway is, well, I know that Jason Stewart
just can't stand it. Right, It's how many times are
we going to see that Malachi Corley play? How many times?
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How many times Malki Corley is going into the end
zone and he drops the ball right as he crosses
the plane of the in zone, And you know, like, look,
we're in the political season. So every four years, our
commercials are dominated by political ads, and most of them
outside the presidential ones are fairly tame. You know, you're
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talking about people's policies and whatever. But every four years
you learned something about people like I had no idea,
that's no idea. But you know, I can't blame it
on I can't blame it on this generation because it's
happened for twenty years. Like I've been in the media
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for twenty one years, twenty one years, and every year
somebody drops a football before they go in the inZone.
Here's Kirk Krbstreet in real time on the play.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
What in the heck is he thinking?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Why the urgency for some of these kids to drop
the ball before they even if it's close finish the play?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Absolutely here's Jeff Ulbrick, the head coach of the INTERNM
heead coach about the play after the game.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
First of all, you can't do that, And second of all, Yo,
what's one. Definitely frustrated, you know, to be honest and
angry at the same time, But what an amazing opportunity
for this kid to grow and learn from. You know,
I promise you ten years from now, when he's still
playing in this league, that will never happen again.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, well, I mean it won't happen to him, but
for whatever reason, happens every year. Right, Dan, You've been
doing this twenty years. I'm guessing that if we we
draw our memory, it feels like every year this happens,
literally every year college or pro somebody drops the ball
before they go in the end zone.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Durner feels like it's every week.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I mean, it happened in Orgon, right, didn't a Orgon
kid do it on an Organ game?
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Yeah? And I was even thinking of last week and
Kyle Pitts kind of went into the end zone late,
you know, in a lazy fashion, and Anton Winfield almost
him of the ball at the goal line. They couldn't
get a real good review of it. But yeah, it
seems to be every single week, whether it be in
college or the NFL, that someone does this. It feels
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that way. I know it's not that much, but it
just it feels like it's way more common now.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
When when the coach, uh, what's the name, coach Olbrook,
when he says that that's never going to happen again,
that implies intent. Dan, do you think he did it
on purpose? Do you think these players do it on purpose?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
I think they do it to showboat. I think that
gets their way of dropping the ball. Ain't no thing.
I'm in the end zone. Time to party. I do
my stuff. That's what I think. It is.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
My my working hypotheses again, because I don't know hypotheses
theories when it's proven. My working hypotheses is guys. And yes,
I don't know if it's showboat or celebrate or whatever.
Probably a little bit of both. But it's that you
lose your mind. You like see the end zone and
you just lose your like out of body experience. You know?
Was it rod Tidwell? Right? Was not the character that
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Tuba Gooden Junior played in? Uh, Jerry Maguire, Remember at
the end, he's in the end zone and he just
starts dancing and he never dances, but it's just overcome
by the emotion of the moment. He starts crying and
blowing kisses to his wife and his son on TV.
You just remember that, like it's a real thing that
dudes just lose their mind, just all that dopamine at
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once and you lose your Do you buy that at all?
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Jason?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Well, I mean, so your your theory implies that it's accidental.
And I'm with Dan on this. It's some kind of
showboding mood move. I just don't understand how or why
they could justify it. And these players, by the way,
Kyle Pitts wasn't asked about it Sunday. This kid was
not available for interview last night. I need one one answer.
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Why do you do that?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, I mean, I think I think it's pretty obvious.
I don't know. Do you think he meant to do it?
Speaker 8 (09:04):
That's what Dan thinks, That's what I think. Yeah, I
think he meant to. He didn't mean to fumble, but
I felt like he wanted to start whatever his celebration
was going to be at that point, and the celebration
could be look at me or I'm going to skip
in the end zone or do whatever, and this ball
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is only going to hamper what I'm about to drop
on these fans. And by the way, again, no big thing,
no big deal, just take this ball whatever, all right,
you guys can have it.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
Here's the real show. That's what I feel it is, Sam.
I agree with Dan. I think it's partly that. I
also think it's maybe like bliss or euphoria induced kind
of carelessness. Is it like you're in a blur, you're
running over the line and you just you were careless
because you should have just held onto it for another
half a second.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It really is crazy, though, Like every time we see it,
we're like, oh man, how they do it? It happens
all the time. I don't understand. I really don't understand.
I thought the whole idea of guys they want to celebrate,
Why are they dropping the ball? I guess to go
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celebrate more quickly without the foot. I just don't get it.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
This reminds me, I'm sorry, Dan, it reminds me say
one of your players hits a three, takes a three,
and then starts running back the other way, like Steph
Curry and the ball comes off, and if he's just
followed a shot, it could would have been a rebound
or something. Yeah, it's like one of those show boat moves.
In the moment, I'm going to emphasize this play by showboating.
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I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No, yeah, except for remember you have to actually score first,
so it does. I get your thing. And it's like
the Kemba Walker, right, wasn't it Kemba who famously when
he was in Charlotte all around and round round, then
he turned around and then went out. He thought it
went in.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, swaggy p two. Yeah, there's just this, there's no
the the extreme is, obviously, the other side is Barry
Sanders handing the ball to the referee. Sure, And I
don't know why a player wouldn't wouldn't make their thing. Say,
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my thing is when I score, I go on, I
take the football and I put it next to the goalpost.
You know that's there. They'll never fumble because guys, what
their thing is. You can't wait to see you run
and put the football by the goal post. That's should
be their thing. But for some reason as well, and listen,
this guy hasn't scored any touchdowns in the NFL. And
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and what Oldbrook is saying is that you know, ten
years in your career, no, you'll never get that touchdown back.
The thing will bother you till the day you die.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No question. I mean is on Thursday night football, So
it's a standalone games. Yeah, saw it, And I mean
a perfect example is everybody calls it the DeShawn Jackson
DeShawn Jackson, right, and d jacks E did it once
or twice.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
I know he did it in the pros and I
can't remember. I thought there was a cal Oregon game
where there was something that that happened of similar dilk
but I could be wrong, but I know what happened
in Dallas against the Cowboys, and I just there's also
the there's also like the point of like you crossed
the finish line and you think you are in the
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end zone, like you think you may think that you're
three yards in, but your body is still you know,
the back half of the body, or where your football
is or where your arm is completely different scenario from
from where you actually are on the field, still doesn't
give you a reason to let it go. It's that
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blissful blur this is this is the other this is
the other Craper talking about with the New York Jets.
To be honest with you, like they had no Doug
And I know you pointed out some of the things
that went wrong with the Texans, but they had no
business losing last week to the New England Patriots. None. Yeah,
absolutely zero.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And listen, this is that's a great pointment. Go ahead,
I'll let you make it and then I'll back up.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
But it's the point of too of like why why
would you try to bet on the NFL when crap
like this happens? Like all like do you want to
talk about points, spreads? The whole deal. Now, in the
end didn't matter last night, but I guarantee you in
the next four times that it does, it's probably going
to matter again.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well I would I wouldn't take it into the betting thing.
I would take it as the This is where this
is where Aaron Rodgers is probably right. It was it
was in the way in which he made it public
that he shouldn't have said it. He talked about being
accountability because even look at last night, right give away
a touchdown there and then I mean, obviously they're very
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fortunate that the Texans missed the field goal. But what
happened was they kick a field goal and but they
just ran over the long snapper. So they got a
chances to score a touchdown. If the Texans were decent,
all they score a touchdown, they're totally different game. And
the Texans were completely outplayed by the Jets, and yet
they Jets just gave away points.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
Yeah, another England, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It's a and everyone told me in the NFL last year.
They're like, yeah, they're just they're not a discipline team
at all. And here's the thing that's on Robert Sala,
that's on their GM as well. Hey, where they just
have not held guys accountable. It's the only reason stuff,
Like everyone I know knows you can't run over the
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long snapper. I never played high level, high level college football.
I know that rule, And like why do you do it?
You do it because you like discipline. And you could say, well,
this is a uh, this is a one off sort
of deal. Like no, now, now that team has no
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discipline at all, and they're riding the wave of the
fact that the Texans are kind of a mess right now.
And Aaron Rodgers played high level Aaron Rodgers, and they
have some playmakers. The defense is talented but not disciplined.
That dog won't hunt. So my take is on as
far as Vegas concerned, is just fade the Jets. Eventually
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the Jets will Jets. That's the way I would look
at it.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Yes, Sammy, what would be the fallout if they had
lost this game by like a touchdown or wes?
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Would he be cut? Do you think? I mean?
Speaker 9 (15:39):
They won the games, so it like it's still a
very glaring, egregious air he made.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
But if they had lost and maybe.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
This time, yeah, that's a real team. Does that real
team goes like, ah, a real team actually cuts him
when you win.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
I'll tell you we got some good feedback. The Raven
Rises tweets in it's their way of dropping the mic,
which I completely you agree with. Our buddy Gary Hopwood says,
it reminds me of one of runners in first place
and slows down and then the second place person crosses
the finish line in first.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Isn't there that video? Was it? The Olympics? Was the
World Championships where it's like racewalking. Yeah, she's like celebrated
in Spain. She's like celebrating. All of a sudden, this
other girl just comes boat races her. She's like, oh,
oh no, Only she didn't say, oh no, that's good
call Gary.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
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Speaker 2 (16:35):
Stug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio. I got to
pay attention there, Sammy. This is what I thought of
Aaron Rodgers last night. You know, by the way, as
somebody who got to know Toby Keith, who obviously passed
away from cancer early this year. I mean, really good human,
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really good human. There's lots of stories about lots of
people who make lots of money that aren't good humans
out there. He's not one of them. He's he was
a great dude. So he has missed even though he
was an O you guy and I I'm an Oklahoma
State guy. We got a lot to get to. Jerry
Jones made some comments about his team, the Jets win
last night. The Texans kind of feel like they're falling
apart a little bit. You got Lions and Packers this
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weekend at Lambeau. We'll see if Jordan Love plays we
got the Andre Anthony Anthony Richardson, deal, we got a
lot to get to, you know, who can give us
a great insight? Mark Dominic he spent twenty years in
NFL front offices. Of course, he was the gentle manager
of the tamp Bay Buccaneers, and he joins us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Anthony Richardson,
just your thoughts on I guess you can't just say, hey,
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it's about him taking himself out because he's tired. There's
also the uneven performances. So I guess my question is
anthrow Richard in totality, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean it's a little easy to kind of
throw it, you know, mud on our right now while
it's you know, still not looking very good, you know.
I mean, the reality is tapping out was one thing,
but the performance is the reality, right, And this is
a player that I think a lot of people he
skyrocketed in the draft, uh, you know, because of the
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need of position. You know, I think that the Colts
have had I think what nine straight years is nine
different quarterbacks, some of them are repeated, but still nine
straight years and ninety two starting quarterbacks starting week one.
Richardson falls into that. I mean, he's completed forty four
percent of his passes, you know, regardless, that's just you know,
so unheard of. It's like a kicker making you know,
fifty two percent of his still goals and keeping his job.
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That just doesn't happen. And so this isn't a big
surprise to me. You know, the running was a big
part of what they were hoping that he would really
explode with and be able to.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
All right, let's get rejoined by Mark Dominique joins us
here on the Doug Gotlib Show on Fox Sports Radio.
When is the time when you cut bait?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean I think you have. I think we're
at that point where as a cold organization. I think
they are officially cutting bait and realizing that this ship
is not sailing. And I think that they feel that.
But because of the completion percentage of forty five four percent, uh,
you know, the some of the inability to stay healthy,
and then obviously the tapping out was kind of like
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the final straw. You know, they realized Joe Flackel gives
them a better chance to keep their jobs and that's
what they're doing. But I think that for Anthony Richardson,
I think it is I don't think we're going to
see this historic comeback. Sadly, it's a hard position to play,
and a lot of teams, you know, push quarterbacks on
the board because if you don't have one, it makes
for a lot of long Sundays and a short career
in the NFL the head coach or GM if you
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don't have that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
We've seen some some players, I guess the premature celebrations, right,
that's what we saw last night with the drop in
the football before you get in the end zone. Well,
we saw Chicago in Chicago right where you still got
to play and you have a defensive back who's who's
gesturing two other Bears fans. Meanwhile they're on the road
and the Commanders and up scoring a touchdown because of
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a ball that he tipped, and he's not where he's
supposed to be. Uh as a general manager, I'm sure
that happened in one of the organizations. How accountable are
the coaches for what the players are doing?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Well, I mean, I think you know that's where you
kind of look at your you know, your d backs
coach because you realize he's the head coach of his room,
and you'd hope you know, but sometimes your DD coach
might be upstairs in the booth, or he might be
on the field. One of them should because you usually
have two DV coaches. You would like to think ones
on the on the sideline screaming away, trying to get
him to dial in and stay focused and know the
game's never really truly over as we all clearly saw.
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You know, it's it's a good a good football player.
He's done a good football.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Player for the Bears.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
It's not something you're going to cut the player. He's
learned his lesson, uh through through everybody.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
It's something that will haunt him. It's kind of like
Daran Laski's standing out, you know, walking out the back
of the end zone. He's never been able to get
over that. This will give me a saying, is this
will haunt him throughout his NFL career and post career.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Terrible situation, But you know the head coach of that
room is just as guilty by making sure that his
guys aren't in line and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Stet Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports Radio, Jerry Jones
calls you and says, Mark, you've done this for a
long time. You know this sport. What do you do?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yeah, I mean, I really wish I had Micah Parsons
up there. I wish I'd had a drown bland all
see me. I'm looking at the team, going can they
get everybody else on the football field? You know, Brendan
Cooks is They've just been banged up a bit. I
still think you play out this month and get to
November and see where your team sits, and then you
make decisions. I don't think you make a decision right now,
even with the game this weekend, and like I said,
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with the players that are going to be out, that
certainly doesn't make it any easier. But I mean you've
played the Atlanta outcomes. You see how things go. But
I think you've got to wait until you get to
the end of the month, and then I think you
make the decision. And if your team, if you're the
Cowboys and they're sitting there, you know, four weeks from now,
four and seven, I think the the go ahead and
make a move, you know, organization, they just realize that
you're starting to ramp up the hunts of the new
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head coach in the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So who is it's what's the type of fit that
works there?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Well, I think you're going to continue to look on
the trees that seem to have the most blossoms and
that's you know, whether that's the Ravens from a defensive
standpoint and that's what you want to focus on and
then be able to pull the offensive play color somewhere,
or you're going to look into that Shanahan McVay, the
whole system that's been putting out some productive coaches and
look into that realm as well. I think those are
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the two areas where I probably get my toes in
first to kind of see who are potential up and
comers who can handle a Dallas situation that's obviously going
to need a quick fix.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
In twenty twenty five, Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Trail. That's voice of Mark Dominic. Of course, he
joins US Weekly. He's former GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Over twenty years of experience in scouting and NFL front offices. Okay,
let's let's go back to those Bears. You saw two
talented young quarterbacks number one, number two pick. Obviously Jane
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Daniels is probably as a better season. But now seeing
them not head to head, right, don't play against each other,
but playing at the same time, what's your about of
both players at this stage in their career.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're very encouraged by both
of them. I think that Caleb Williams certainly has felt
like he's really kind of getting himself together, I guess,
playing a lot more consistent and feeling like it's one
of those things where you feel growth in what he's
been able to do and what he's showing out there,
you know, each week, and it's to me, it's getting better. Now.
Does he have the you know, the bad completion games,
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certainly against the Commanders, Yes, I mean ten for twenty
four is not what you're looking for, but you know,
it's the first time I thought he's really kind of dipped.
I know, like you know, Week one wasn't a great outing,
his preseason wasn't great. But I mean if you look
at the games, yes, you're gonna have a rough game
you're a rookie at Washington, but you look at the
six games. Part of that and you know, I think
he's somewhere around ten touchdowns nine interceptions or nine touchdowns
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five interceptions. That's that's okay for rookie. I think you
feel pretty go about where he sits, and you like
the important part is what you want to see is
that yards per attempt. To me, that's in a really
important stat and we've seen him push that number a
little bit higher again against Washington. Not good, but over
the last few weeks it's been seven or hovering north
of that, and that's kind of an important Mendoza line.
I think we did yards per attempt and how important
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that kind of thing is. I think that's where Jane
Daniels has really been impressive, is that his is you know,
for the seasons over eight almost eight and a half,
which is tremendous, and he's only got the two turnovers.
So I think that's been sometimes been very impressed about
Jade Daniels and what he's been able to do. You know,
I said at the beginning of this whole thing, he
was my rookie of the Year With Jade Daniels, I
think he's going to hold on to that and be
able to do it all season long. When you can
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throw for three hundred yards the NFL, like he did
against the Bears as a rookie, and they trust you
to go back downtil the ball was forty times. That
speaks volumes of how confident they are of you as
a young player.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's a
voice of Mark Dominic, Mark Russell Wilson. Kind of mixed bag,
mixed bag. On Monday Night. There was a couple of
great throws to Pickens, a couple that he dirted, a
couple that were just okay. I thought they did a
better job of play calling. I guess my question is
it's I talked about this Tuesday, and then we talked
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about it earlier day with Aaron Rodgers. Right, when you're
a very good to great quarterback and you get older,
you usually don't just completely fall off the cliff. It's
the ratio of times in which you're your old self,
like Aaron Rodgers, terrible in the first half, really good
in the second half, the likeli of repeating the second
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half is not great in terms of on a week
to week basis. Right, It's the ratio of times, how
often do you think we'll see the better part of
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
I feel pretty good about it. I feel like again,
I think what you're seeing and what we've seen is
a Pittsburgh offensive feels more explosive, has bigger plays down
the field, which is great. You like to see that.
He's obviously got a week here to just kind of
like put it all together. We'll see how they do
when they come out and play that at the Commanders
the falling week. But I think when you look at
their schedule, I feel pretty good.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
Now.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Is it easy? No, But it's the Commanders. The Browns
are going to be questionable as they kind of go
through it, but then they've got the Bengals twice, the Chiefs.
They've got tough games in front of them. It's not
the Jets and the Giants. It's you know, the Baltimore Ravens'
is the Philldelphia Eagles. You know, it's you can't see Chiefs.
But I think that what you're seeing with Russell is
exactly what I think we all talked about and why
I thought when he got healthy would be the starter.
(26:22):
Is that he's not afraid to go let his guys
go make plays and Pickens has made some fantastic catches,
no doubt, But the difference is Russell's going to put
the ball and let him go do that and be
the receiver he can be. And that's what really separates
the quarterbacks from experience young quarterbacks to experience, is that
they've gotten a point where they trust the guys on
their field that I'm going to fill this ball up
and this guy's going to go make a play. Watch
and the young quarterbacks looking to go, Okay, I don't
(26:44):
want to fill it there he's covered. And that's the difference,
and I think that's what Russell brings to it. So
I feel pretty good about what Russell Wilson's gonna be
able to do, even though I think the second half
of the season it's going to be a lot different
for this team. You know, you play the Raiders, Jets, Giants,
the Colts, you know, the teams that really haven't had
great seasons. In the second half, they're certainly gonna be
tested a lot more, But I think they're tested enough
(27:04):
where they can stay because of that defense, they can
stay in hunt for the winning this division.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Fild Lions' best team in football are just best teams
in the NFC.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
I think they're the best team in football. And that's
really hard to say when the Chiefs team's undefeated, but
you know, they just feel so complete and they you know,
utterly dominated obviously last week, and just have you know,
this is without their best, you know, or one of
their best is not their best defensive players. I mean,
that's the exciting thing here. They lost the four point
games of the Bucks week two, but you know, when
you can go and beat the Titans fifty two, where
(27:36):
you beat the Cowboys forty seven, I mean the last
four games, I think they're averaging over forty points a game.
I mean, that's incredible to do that in the National
Football League. So I think they're the most complete team
right now. I think Kansas City's right on the heels.
I think last night was as big a loss for
the Houston Texans, and I don't think it was as
big a win for the Jets. It was nice, but
it was bigger for like Kansas City. It was bigger
(27:57):
for the Buffo Bills. Houston had not lost AFC game yet,
so for them to get a loss on the board
of the conference is big in terms of when you
start to start looking at playoff picture and down the line.
I think that loss is really going to haunt Houston
what it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
You know, we've talked about this a little bit. You know,
you have these quarterbacks that get a second chance, whereas
the the Anthony Richardson's the first chance guys, the first
round draft picks we move on from. Jamis played pretty well,
like who else? Who are the other guys that are
out there? The NFL guys know about that that, yeah,
(28:29):
they've been a starter, they lost their starting spot, but
they're probably going to get a shot because you look
around the league and between Baker and Gino Smith and
Russell Wilson and Jamis, like those guys have value and
they're not making top dollar. Who are we not thinking
of that? We'll be talking about this upcoming off season.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
I don't know if there's great names. I think there's
I think you know, Houston already locked up Davis Mills,
and maybe you're not a huge Davis Mills fans, but
I think as they were building the Texans, Davis Mills
did a pretty good job, and I think that's why
they went and locked him in, and he took the
bait and took it. And whether Davis Mills is ever
going to be a good start of the league or
like a great starter like you know, to do with
(29:11):
you know, obviously what Baker's doing right now. I don't
know if I see that, but I certainly see a
guy that I think has a lot more potential in
front of him, and maybe not the guy that everybody's
got their eye on, like, oh, okay, I never thought
about Davis Mills, but you got to think he was
with a Texans team that was really still not where
the talent level they are today and still was able
to be productive out there. I think that's kind of
a hidden guy that I would think about when you
(29:32):
kind of asked me that kind of a question. But
I think like Jamis, you know, he was part of
at the thirty thirty club, right he threw thirty touchdowns
with through thirty interceptions that played before the touchdown he
almost had a pick, So you know, he's he's going
to be a guy that's going to give you a
little bit of a rollercoaster ride. But it's happy to
see it for him. But I do think there is value,
that there's experience that they've played with. I mean Gardner Minshew,
like him or not, I've always felt like agent should
(29:54):
be the starter. I think Gardner Minshew can have a
career in this league for the other seven years because
I think you feel like if you put him in,
you have a chance to stay in the game and win.
But he's not going to take you to where I
think again, maybe one of these players like what Baker's
been able to do in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, high floora low ceiling, exactly. Flor Hey man, I
really appreciate you joining us and look forward to talking
with you next week. Enjoy the college and pro football
this weekend. We'll talk to you then.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Sounds great, Doug, have a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's the one and only Mark Dominic. He joins us
every week here on The Doug gottlief Show. Former Gentlem
manager of the tam Bay Buccaneers. Coming up next to
The Doug Gotlieb Show live from the tyrack dot Com Studios.
Who's the NFL's MVP so far? Find out next.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
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Speaker 2 (30:39):
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We turn over to Dan Byer and play a game.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Hey Dan, Hi, what do you got?
Speaker 8 (31:09):
What's up Doug? The game today is I Got DIBs? Okay,
so I got dibbs. Is a game for those that
don't know, is when we throw out a topic and
just like you would with your buddies or pals, you'd
say I got DIBs on whatever the possibilities could be
within that topic. Three of them today and we start
(31:29):
in the National Football League. The first topic if I
got dibbs the NFL MVP through eight plus weeks of
the season.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Dan, you got your fighting off something a little bit
little sick?
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I am very yeah. Yeah. It's uh feels like a
thousand pounds of pressure on my head. Got me under pressure.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Obviously, as you can tell my voice. I thought through
a little bit, you know, Yeah, that's some great suburban grit.
We got to make a recommendation. Sure, I'd become a
big proponent of bone broth because the boone broth, no
bone broth, it's like the new it's like the new
chicken broth, only I think they make it with the
bones of meat. I don't know. I mean whatever, it's good,
(32:11):
sure good. It's kind of salty. It tastes like something
your mom would say, drink this, you'll feel better that.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
A little vixed vapor rub well, vix.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Vapor rub is that's a solid call right there.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
You just did it last night on my nose and throat.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
We are right now through like a middle phase of it.
It was a sore throat earlier in the week, and
now it's a lot of congestion.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Do you do you when you're sick? Do you sleep
next to Lisa or do you go like in the
guest room.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Well, last time I couldn't get this sleep to like
three am, so I slept on the futon in the loft.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There you go, phuton loft. Isn't that no problem?
Speaker 8 (32:49):
Yeah? I didn't want to get her sick, and Brodie
sleeps in our room. As well.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So yeah, Brody's like Dad out, yeah, out, coming down
up with sugar eye here. Okay, I just raced around,
raced around the neighborhood. Okay, I'm about to pass out
and there's about to be cavities on my teeth. I
need you to leave, you know, to leave the premises.
You got to get out of the room.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
You're like you neat my candy and peace Dad, I
mean you can't have you in hear coughing and spreading germs.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
All right, let's let's get to the game. I got
DIBs and the topic Number one is NFL MVP so
far this season.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
I got DIBs on Jared Goff. We steal that right
out of ducks back pocket. Yeah you mean you right
out of the gate, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Right out of he said gates.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
He's completing like over eighty percent of his passes the
last five games. The guy's on fire.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
That was a good game. Okay, what's next.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
I got DIBs on Derrick Henry of the Baltimore Ravens.
I know the Lamar gets a lot of the headlines,
but it's Derrick Henry that I think is the true
the true guy who can have them topple the Chiefs.
And right now when you lead the NFL by like
two hundred yards in rush, Yeah, Derrick Henry right now
is my MVP.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I got DIBs on Lamar Jackson. That's right in Dan's face.
Derrick Henry could not do what he's doing if someone
didn't give him the ball.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
In my face in the fish, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I got DIBs on on Josh Allen. Okay, Cush fourteen touchdowns,
one reception. Bill's having a really good year. Cush all right.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Second topic, Dodgers right now celebrating at Dodgers Stadium their
World Series championship. I don't know if Jason Stewart has
FOMO or not, but I'm sure a lot of Dodger
fans wish they were there. And I know that there
are a lot of baseball teams twenty nine others that
wish that they were doing what the Dodgers were doing
right now. So, guys, and I got DIBs major League
(34:53):
baseball team that you want to see win a world title.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I mean, I got DIBs of my Angels. It's been
twenty two years. Twenty two years, all.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Right, shouldn't this be like realistic, like somebody has a
realistic chance the next twenty years of winning.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, yeah, I do want a different I do want
to pick another team. But I had to pick our team,
didn't I or my team?
Speaker 8 (35:23):
If you couldn't pick your team, because I was.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Okay, I'd like to see the Brewers. I got DIBs
in the Brewers.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And by the way, what happened to the Yankees will
not happen to the Brewers. In terms of fielding, I
was told I don't know this for a fact, but
I was told by one of their front office guys
that everyone in their starting lineup was a former shortstop.
Like they value speed and defense almost above everything else.
(35:49):
And then you know, Jackson Trio is so good, so good.
Speaker 9 (35:53):
I got DIBs on my New York Mets. Come on, baby,
I need another. It's been a listen I the year
I was born, eighty six year I was born, and
they haven't won one since. So come on, mine Mets,
big up with Sam once this Mets to win one.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
I'm shocked. I'm shocked you were born in eighty six.
Like whenever Doug talks to you and your rage on
this show, it's like you're twenty one, yes, but the
other day we're very twenty ten, and Doug was like,
were you even born yet?
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Sam?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I want to be for real young is a young spirit.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I got DIBs on the Mariners good care never won
one like the Brewers. Sure, yeah, it'd be nice to
get one up in there. The Pacific Northwest don't really
have a dog in the fight, but it'd be cool
to see them have some success. All right, final question.
We may have done this before. I had deja vun
(36:46):
running it down. Favorite time of the day, and I'm
talking actual time, top of the hour, not like mourning,
but like a specific time. But it doesn't have to
be like eight forty two a top of the hour.
Favorite time of day. I got DIBs on ten am.
I don't know if it's because that's when Prices Right starts,
(37:09):
but it's morning. It's yeah. I love ten am.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh I love six pm usually right about sunset.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Okay, I love pm. Guy, Yeah, I got DIBs on
seven pm. That's when Jeopardy starts. Jeopardy starts. Your Your
Day's over.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
By Wapner Wapner's at four Wapner's at four and.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I'm a night guy. I took a morning time. Iowa, Sam,
I'll go.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
I'll take DIBs on one pm. Because there's still a
lot of daylight left in top of the you know,
the sun's high in the sky.
Speaker 8 (37:40):
One o'clock, a lot of day left, and it's when
the Midway starts exactly. That's game time.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
This is game time. On the Dug god Leaf.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Show, the Yankees collapse. How much of that is they're
not very good fielders? How much of that was the
pressure the moment. We'll ask the former All Star who
won a World Series next in the Doug Outlet Show,
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friend of mine and he had he had a song
(01:01):
probably about fifteen years ago that says, I ain't as
good as I once was, but I'm as good once
as I ever was. And it wasn't a virtuoso in
the first half, matter of fact, it was super super ugly.
But in the second half, Aaron Rodgers was pretty damn outstanding.
I mean, even the most ardent Aaron Rodgers hater out
(01:21):
there were like he made some throws that were pretty
good and they end up winning a game which I
was wrong about, helped at least slightly by the fact
that the Houston Texans kicker missed was a cal fuarburn.
He missed a chip shot, and kind of everything fell
apart after that. Here's Jetster interim coach Jeff Olbrich discussing
(01:47):
the win.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
A really cool game for this team, man, after three
weeks of a lot of adversity, a lot of stetbacks,
some self imposed for them to have the resiliency and
to come back and played the way they did against
a really good an opponent, it's probable.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Here is Aaron Rodgers after the game.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Kind of season on the line there in second half.
Obviously we wouldn't have been mathematically eliminated, but mentally to
go to two and seven would have been real tough.
Hopefully it's kept this confidence that we can beat anybody,
because we feel like we could. The way we played
on offense in the second half is the way we've
been kind of waiting for this offense to wake up.
And I know obviously I was, you know, close to
(02:28):
perfection as I needed to be, but that's the standard
I need to play at.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah. I mean, look, he had thirty seven yards passing
at the half, and he played really well in the
second half. Maybe the biggest takeaway, there's two tegaways in
the game. First is now I got let's go with three.
Here's the takeaways. One Aaron Rodgers ain't as good as
he once was, but he's as good once as he
(02:56):
ever was. And throw to Devonte Adams amazing. Some other
throws that were outstanding, and a lot of this is
we talked about it this week about the ratio of things.
You know, when you're in your prime, four out of
five games you're incredible. When you're at the end of it,
there's like one out of five games you're incredible. And
(03:18):
it's how often you can be just solid to above
average because there's going to be a stinker and they'll
occur more often the older that you are. It makes sense, right,
So that's the first takeaway. The second one is that
something wrong with the Texans, whether it's the injuries to
(03:38):
their wide receivers or whether it's the fact their offensive
line's not good. There's some regression from CJ. Stroud. Here's CJ.
Stroud after the game.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
You know it'll come out here on Primeship game and
you know, get embarrassed like that is never fun. And
you know, I believe, you know, we have to be
better in a lot of areas, you know, and that
starts with me. You know, I think there's players I
gotta make, girls, I gotta make you know, times I
got to send the pocket and just trust my guys.
So I really point to figure, I mean realize, you know,
I got to be better as a football player. And
you know, if we want to win, this is not
(04:07):
the rest before. We got to learn how to dominate.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
By the way. That's what you're supposed to sound like,
even when it's not your fault. That's how you're supposed
to sound. So if anybody says, like, well, why are
you so, why do you guys get such a big
like there's a starting quarterback, he's in his second year,
and whether any of the issues are his, the offensive lines,
the play calling, there was none of this did everybody
Else's why? CJ. Stroud's a stud leads you to believe
(04:31):
he'll be fine, but he's not playing fine. He's playing rushed.
He mentioned trust and there's some issues there with that team.
The last takeaway is, well, I know that Jason Stewart
just can't stand it. Right, It's how many times are
we going to see that Malachi Corley play? How many times?
(04:56):
How many times Malki Corley is going into the end
zone and he drops the ball right as he crosses
the plane of the in zone, And you know, like, look,
we're in the political season. So every four years, our
commercials are dominated by political ads, and most of them
outside the presidential ones are fairly tame. You know, you're
(05:18):
talking about people's policies and whatever. But every four years
you learned something about people like I had no idea,
that's no idea. But you know, I can't blame it
on I can't blame it on this generation because it's
happened for twenty years. Like I've been in the media
(05:40):
for twenty one years, twenty one years, and every year
somebody drops a football before they go in the inZone.
Here's Kirk Krbstreet in real time on the play.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
What in the heck is he thinking?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
Why the urgency for some of these kids to drop
the ball before they even if it's close finish the play?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Absolutely here's Jeff Ulbrick, the head coach of the INTERNM
heead coach about the play after the game.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
First of all, you can't do that, And second of all, Yo,
what's one. Definitely frustrated, you know, to be honest and
angry at the same time, But what an amazing opportunity
for this kid to grow and learn from. You know,
I promise you ten years from now, when he's still
playing in this league, that will never happen again.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, well, I mean it won't happen to him, but
for whatever reason, happens every year. Right, Dan, You've been
doing this twenty years. I'm guessing that if we we
draw our memory, it feels like every year this happens,
literally every year college or pro somebody drops the ball
before they go in the end zone.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Durner feels like it's every week.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I mean, it happened in Orgon, right, didn't a Orgon
kid do it on an Organ game?
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Yeah? And I was even thinking of last week and
Kyle Pitts kind of went into the end zone late,
you know, in a lazy fashion, and Anton Winfield almost
him of the ball at the goal line. They couldn't
get a real good review of it. But yeah, it
seems to be every single week, whether it be in
college or the NFL, that someone does this. It feels
(07:13):
that way. I know it's not that much, but it
just it feels like it's way more common now.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
When when the coach, uh, what's the name, coach Olbrook,
when he says that that's never going to happen again,
that implies intent. Dan, do you think he did it
on purpose? Do you think these players do it on purpose?
Speaker 8 (07:31):
I think they do it to showboat. I think that
gets their way of dropping the ball. Ain't no thing.
I'm in the end zone. Time to party. I do
my stuff. That's what I think. It is.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
My my working hypotheses again, because I don't know hypotheses
theories when it's proven. My working hypotheses is guys. And yes,
I don't know if it's showboat or celebrate or whatever.
Probably a little bit of both. But it's that you
lose your mind. You like see the end zone and
you just lose your like out of body experience. You know?
Was it rod Tidwell? Right? Was not the character that
(08:06):
Tuba Gooden Junior played in? Uh, Jerry Maguire, Remember at
the end, he's in the end zone and he just
starts dancing and he never dances, but it's just overcome
by the emotion of the moment. He starts crying and
blowing kisses to his wife and his son on TV.
You just remember that, like it's a real thing that
dudes just lose their mind, just all that dopamine at
(08:27):
once and you lose your Do you buy that at all?
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Jason?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Well, I mean, so your your theory implies that it's accidental.
And I'm with Dan on this. It's some kind of
showboding mood move. I just don't understand how or why
they could justify it. And these players, by the way,
Kyle Pitts wasn't asked about it Sunday. This kid was
not available for interview last night. I need one one answer.
(08:54):
Why do you do that?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, I mean, I think I think it's pretty obvious.
I don't know. Do you think he meant to do it?
Speaker 8 (09:04):
That's what Dan thinks, That's what I think. Yeah, I
think he meant to. He didn't mean to fumble, but
I felt like he wanted to start whatever his celebration
was going to be at that point, and the celebration
could be look at me or I'm going to skip
in the end zone or do whatever, and this ball
(09:25):
is only going to hamper what I'm about to drop
on these fans. And by the way, again, no big thing,
no big deal, just take this ball whatever, all right,
you guys can have it.
Speaker 9 (09:36):
Here's the real show. That's what I feel it is, Sam.
I agree with Dan. I think it's partly that. I
also think it's maybe like bliss or euphoria induced kind
of carelessness. Is it like you're in a blur, you're
running over the line and you just you were careless
because you should have just held onto it for another
half a second.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It really is crazy, though, Like every time we see it,
we're like, oh man, how they do it? It happens
all the time. I don't understand. I really don't understand.
I thought the whole idea of guys they want to celebrate,
Why are they dropping the ball? I guess to go
(10:17):
celebrate more quickly without the foot. I just don't get it.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
This reminds me, I'm sorry, Dan, it reminds me say
one of your players hits a three, takes a three,
and then starts running back the other way, like Steph
Curry and the ball comes off, and if he's just
followed a shot, it could would have been a rebound
or something. Yeah, it's like one of those show boat moves.
In the moment, I'm going to emphasize this play by showboating.
(10:42):
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No, yeah, except for remember you have to actually score first,
so it does. I get your thing. And it's like
the Kemba Walker, right, wasn't it Kemba who famously when
he was in Charlotte all around and round round, then
he turned around and then went out. He thought it
went in.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, swaggy p two. Yeah, there's just this, there's no
the the extreme is, obviously, the other side is Barry
Sanders handing the ball to the referee. Sure, And I
don't know why a player wouldn't wouldn't make their thing. Say,
(11:24):
my thing is when I score, I go on, I
take the football and I put it next to the goalpost.
You know that's there. They'll never fumble because guys, what
their thing is. You can't wait to see you run
and put the football by the goal post. That's should
be their thing. But for some reason as well, and listen,
this guy hasn't scored any touchdowns in the NFL. And
(11:47):
and what Oldbrook is saying is that you know, ten
years in your career, no, you'll never get that touchdown back.
The thing will bother you till the day you die.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No question. I mean is on Thursday night football, So
it's a standalone games. Yeah, saw it, And I mean
a perfect example is everybody calls it the DeShawn Jackson
DeShawn Jackson, right, and d jacks E did it once
or twice.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
I know he did it in the pros and I
can't remember. I thought there was a cal Oregon game
where there was something that that happened of similar dilk
but I could be wrong, but I know what happened
in Dallas against the Cowboys, and I just there's also
the there's also like the point of like you crossed
the finish line and you think you are in the
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end zone, like you think you may think that you're
three yards in, but your body is still you know,
the back half of the body, or where your football
is or where your arm is completely different scenario from
from where you actually are on the field, still doesn't
give you a reason to let it go. It's that
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blissful blur this is this is the other this is
the other Craper talking about with the New York Jets.
To be honest with you, like they had no Doug
And I know you pointed out some of the things
that went wrong with the Texans, but they had no
business losing last week to the New England Patriots. None. Yeah,
absolutely zero.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And listen, this is that's a great pointment. Go ahead,
I'll let you make it and then I'll back up.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
But it's the point of too of like why why
would you try to bet on the NFL when crap
like this happens? Like all like do you want to
talk about points, spreads? The whole deal. Now, in the
end didn't matter last night, but I guarantee you in
the next four times that it does, it's probably going
to matter again.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well I would I wouldn't take it into the betting thing.
I would take it as the This is where this
is where Aaron Rodgers is probably right. It was it
was in the way in which he made it public
that he shouldn't have said it. He talked about being
accountability because even look at last night, right give away
a touchdown there and then I mean, obviously they're very
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fortunate that the Texans missed the field goal. But what
happened was they kick a field goal and but they
just ran over the long snapper. So they got a
chances to score a touchdown. If the Texans were decent,
all they score a touchdown, they're totally different game. And
the Texans were completely outplayed by the Jets, and yet
they Jets just gave away points.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
Yeah, another England, Like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It's a and everyone told me in the NFL last year.
They're like, yeah, they're just they're not a discipline team
at all. And here's the thing that's on Robert Sala,
that's on their GM as well. Hey, where they just
have not held guys accountable. It's the only reason stuff,
Like everyone I know knows you can't run over the
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long snapper. I never played high level, high level college football.
I know that rule, And like why do you do it?
You do it because you like discipline. And you could say, well,
this is a uh, this is a one off sort
of deal. Like no, now, now that team has no
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discipline at all, and they're riding the wave of the
fact that the Texans are kind of a mess right now.
And Aaron Rodgers played high level Aaron Rodgers, and they
have some playmakers. The defense is talented but not disciplined.
That dog won't hunt. So my take is on as
far as Vegas concerned, is just fade the Jets. Eventually
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the Jets will Jets. That's the way I would look
at it.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
Yes, Sammy, what would be the fallout if they had
lost this game by like a touchdown or wes?
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Would he be cut? Do you think? I mean?
Speaker 9 (15:39):
They won the games, so it like it's still a
very glaring, egregious air he made.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
But if they had lost and maybe.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
This time, yeah, that's a real team. Does that real
team goes like, ah, a real team actually cuts him
when you win.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
I'll tell you we got some good feedback. The Raven
Rises tweets in it's their way of dropping the mic,
which I completely you agree with. Our buddy Gary Hopwood says,
it reminds me of one of runners in first place
and slows down and then the second place person crosses
the finish line in first.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Isn't there that video? Was it? The Olympics? Was the
World Championships where it's like racewalking. Yeah, she's like celebrated
in Spain. She's like celebrating. All of a sudden, this
other girl just comes boat races her. She's like, oh,
oh no, Only she didn't say, oh no, that's good
call Gary.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
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Speaker 2 (16:35):
Stug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio. I got to
pay attention there, Sammy. This is what I thought of
Aaron Rodgers last night. You know, by the way, as
somebody who got to know Toby Keith, who obviously passed
away from cancer early this year. I mean, really good human,
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really good human. There's lots of stories about lots of
people who make lots of money that aren't good humans
out there. He's not one of them. He's he was
a great dude. So he has missed even though he
was an O you guy and I I'm an Oklahoma
State guy. We got a lot to get to. Jerry
Jones made some comments about his team, the Jets win
last night. The Texans kind of feel like they're falling
apart a little bit. You got Lions and Packers this
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weekend at Lambeau. We'll see if Jordan Love plays we
got the Andre Anthony Anthony Richardson, deal, we got a
lot to get to, you know, who can give us
a great insight? Mark Dominic he spent twenty years in
NFL front offices. Of course, he was the gentle manager
of the tamp Bay Buccaneers, and he joins us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Anthony Richardson,
just your thoughts on I guess you can't just say, hey,
(17:45):
it's about him taking himself out because he's tired. There's
also the uneven performances. So I guess my question is
anthrow Richard in totality, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean it's a little easy to kind of
throw it, you know, mud on our right now while
it's you know, still not looking very good, you know.
I mean, the reality is tapping out was one thing,
but the performance is the reality, right, And this is
a player that I think a lot of people he
skyrocketed in the draft, uh, you know, because of the
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need of position. You know, I think that the Colts
have had I think what nine straight years is nine
different quarterbacks, some of them are repeated, but still nine
straight years and ninety two starting quarterbacks starting week one.
Richardson falls into that. I mean, he's completed forty four
percent of his passes, you know, regardless, that's just you know,
so unheard of. It's like a kicker making you know,
fifty two percent of his still goals and keeping his job.
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That just doesn't happen. And so this isn't a big
surprise to me. You know, the running was a big
part of what they were hoping that he would really
explode with and be able to.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
All right, let's get rejoined by Mark Dominique joins us
here on the Doug Gotlib Show on Fox Sports Radio.
When is the time when you cut bait?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean I think you have. I think we're
at that point where as a cold organization. I think
they are officially cutting bait and realizing that this ship
is not sailing. And I think that they feel that.
But because of the completion percentage of forty five four percent, uh,
you know, the some of the inability to stay healthy,
and then obviously the tapping out was kind of like
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the final straw. You know, they realized Joe Flackel gives
them a better chance to keep their jobs and that's
what they're doing. But I think that for Anthony Richardson,
I think it is I don't think we're going to
see this historic comeback. Sadly, it's a hard position to play,
and a lot of teams, you know, push quarterbacks on
the board because if you don't have one, it makes
for a lot of long Sundays and a short career
in the NFL the head coach or GM if you
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don't have that quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
We've seen some some players, I guess the premature celebrations, right,
that's what we saw last night with the drop in
the football before you get in the end zone. Well,
we saw Chicago in Chicago right where you still got
to play and you have a defensive back who's who's
gesturing two other Bears fans. Meanwhile they're on the road
and the Commanders and up scoring a touchdown because of
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a ball that he tipped, and he's not where he's
supposed to be. Uh as a general manager, I'm sure
that happened in one of the organizations. How accountable are
the coaches for what the players are doing?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Well, I mean, I think you know that's where you
kind of look at your you know, your d backs
coach because you realize he's the head coach of his room,
and you'd hope you know, but sometimes your DD coach
might be upstairs in the booth, or he might be
on the field. One of them should because you usually
have two DV coaches. You would like to think ones
on the on the sideline screaming away, trying to get
him to dial in and stay focused and know the
game's never really truly over as we all clearly saw.
(20:37):
You know, it's it's a good a good football player.
He's done a good football.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Player for the Bears.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
It's not something you're going to cut the player. He's
learned his lesson, uh through through everybody.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
It's something that will haunt him. It's kind of like
Daran Laski's standing out, you know, walking out the back
of the end zone. He's never been able to get
over that. This will give me a saying, is this
will haunt him throughout his NFL career and post career.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Terrible situation, But you know the head coach of that
room is just as guilty by making sure that his
guys aren't in line and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Stet Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports Radio, Jerry Jones
calls you and says, Mark, you've done this for a
long time. You know this sport. What do you do?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yeah, I mean, I really wish I had Micah Parsons
up there. I wish I'd had a drown bland all
see me. I'm looking at the team, going can they
get everybody else on the football field? You know, Brendan
Cooks is They've just been banged up a bit. I
still think you play out this month and get to
November and see where your team sits, and then you
make decisions. I don't think you make a decision right now,
even with the game this weekend, and like I said,
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with the players that are going to be out, that
certainly doesn't make it any easier. But I mean you've
played the Atlanta outcomes. You see how things go. But
I think you've got to wait until you get to
the end of the month, and then I think you
make the decision. And if your team, if you're the
Cowboys and they're sitting there, you know, four weeks from now,
four and seven, I think the the go ahead and
make a move, you know, organization, they just realize that
you're starting to ramp up the hunts of the new
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head coach in the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So who is it's what's the type of fit that
works there?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
Well, I think you're going to continue to look on
the trees that seem to have the most blossoms and
that's you know, whether that's the Ravens from a defensive
standpoint and that's what you want to focus on and
then be able to pull the offensive play color somewhere,
or you're going to look into that Shanahan McVay, the
whole system that's been putting out some productive coaches and
look into that realm as well. I think those are
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the two areas where I probably get my toes in
first to kind of see who are potential up and
comers who can handle a Dallas situation that's obviously going
to need a quick fix.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
In twenty twenty five, Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Trail. That's voice of Mark Dominic. Of course, he
joins US Weekly. He's former GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Over twenty years of experience in scouting and NFL front offices. Okay,
let's let's go back to those Bears. You saw two
talented young quarterbacks number one, number two pick. Obviously Jane
(23:01):
Daniels is probably as a better season. But now seeing
them not head to head, right, don't play against each other,
but playing at the same time, what's your about of
both players at this stage in their career.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're very encouraged by both
of them. I think that Caleb Williams certainly has felt
like he's really kind of getting himself together, I guess,
playing a lot more consistent and feeling like it's one
of those things where you feel growth in what he's
been able to do and what he's showing out there,
you know, each week, and it's to me, it's getting better. Now.
Does he have the you know, the bad completion games,
(23:34):
certainly against the Commanders, Yes, I mean ten for twenty
four is not what you're looking for, but you know,
it's the first time I thought he's really kind of dipped.
I know, like you know, Week one wasn't a great outing,
his preseason wasn't great. But I mean if you look
at the games, yes, you're gonna have a rough game
you're a rookie at Washington, but you look at the
six games. Part of that and you know, I think
he's somewhere around ten touchdowns nine interceptions or nine touchdowns
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five interceptions. That's that's okay for rookie. I think you
feel pretty go about where he sits, and you like
the important part is what you want to see is
that yards per attempt. To me, that's in a really
important stat and we've seen him push that number a
little bit higher again against Washington. Not good, but over
the last few weeks it's been seven or hovering north
of that, and that's kind of an important Mendoza line.
I think we did yards per attempt and how important
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that kind of thing is. I think that's where Jane
Daniels has really been impressive, is that his is you know,
for the seasons over eight almost eight and a half,
which is tremendous, and he's only got the two turnovers.
So I think that's been sometimes been very impressed about
Jade Daniels and what he's been able to do. You know,
I said at the beginning of this whole thing, he
was my rookie of the Year With Jade Daniels, I
think he's going to hold on to that and be
able to do it all season long. When you can
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throw for three hundred yards the NFL, like he did
against the Bears as a rookie, and they trust you
to go back downtil the ball was forty times. That
speaks volumes of how confident they are of you as
a young player.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's a
voice of Mark Dominic, Mark Russell Wilson. Kind of mixed bag,
mixed bag. On Monday Night. There was a couple of
great throws to Pickens, a couple that he dirted, a
couple that were just okay. I thought they did a
better job of play calling. I guess my question is
it's I talked about this Tuesday, and then we talked
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about it earlier day with Aaron Rodgers. Right, when you're
a very good to great quarterback and you get older,
you usually don't just completely fall off the cliff. It's
the ratio of times in which you're your old self,
like Aaron Rodgers, terrible in the first half, really good
in the second half, the likeli of repeating the second
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half is not great in terms of on a week
to week basis. Right, It's the ratio of times, how
often do you think we'll see the better part of
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
I feel pretty good about it. I feel like again,
I think what you're seeing and what we've seen is
a Pittsburgh offensive feels more explosive, has bigger plays down
the field, which is great. You like to see that.
He's obviously got a week here to just kind of
like put it all together. We'll see how they do
when they come out and play that at the Commanders
the falling week. But I think when you look at
their schedule, I feel pretty good.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
Now.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Is it easy? No, But it's the Commanders. The Browns
are going to be questionable as they kind of go
through it, but then they've got the Bengals twice, the Chiefs.
They've got tough games in front of them. It's not
the Jets and the Giants. It's you know, the Baltimore Ravens'
is the Philldelphia Eagles. You know, it's you can't see Chiefs.
But I think that what you're seeing with Russell is
exactly what I think we all talked about and why
I thought when he got healthy would be the starter.
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Is that he's not afraid to go let his guys
go make plays and Pickens has made some fantastic catches,
no doubt, But the difference is Russell's going to put
the ball and let him go do that and be
the receiver he can be. And that's what really separates
the quarterbacks from experience young quarterbacks to experience, is that
they've gotten a point where they trust the guys on
their field that I'm going to fill this ball up
and this guy's going to go make a play. Watch
and the young quarterbacks looking to go, Okay, I don't
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want to fill it there he's covered. And that's the difference,
and I think that's what Russell brings to it. So
I feel pretty good about what Russell Wilson's gonna be
able to do, even though I think the second half
of the season it's going to be a lot different
for this team. You know, you play the Raiders, Jets, Giants,
the Colts, you know, the teams that really haven't had
great seasons. In the second half, they're certainly gonna be
tested a lot more, But I think they're tested enough
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where they can stay because of that defense, they can
stay in hunt for the winning this division.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Fild Lions' best team in football are just best teams
in the NFC.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
I think they're the best team in football. And that's
really hard to say when the Chiefs team's undefeated, but
you know, they just feel so complete and they you know,
utterly dominated obviously last week, and just have you know,
this is without their best, you know, or one of
their best is not their best defensive players. I mean,
that's the exciting thing here. They lost the four point
games of the Bucks week two, but you know, when
you can go and beat the Titans fifty two, where
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you beat the Cowboys forty seven, I mean the last
four games, I think they're averaging over forty points a game.
I mean, that's incredible to do that in the National
Football League. So I think they're the most complete team
right now. I think Kansas City's right on the heels.
I think last night was as big a loss for
the Houston Texans, and I don't think it was as
big a win for the Jets. It was nice, but
it was bigger for like Kansas City. It was bigger
(27:57):
for the Buffo Bills. Houston had not lost AFC game yet,
so for them to get a loss on the board
of the conference is big in terms of when you
start to start looking at playoff picture and down the line.
I think that loss is really going to haunt Houston
what it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
You know, we've talked about this a little bit. You know,
you have these quarterbacks that get a second chance, whereas
the the Anthony Richardson's the first chance guys, the first
round draft picks we move on from. Jamis played pretty well,
like who else? Who are the other guys that are
out there? The NFL guys know about that that, yeah,
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they've been a starter, they lost their starting spot, but
they're probably going to get a shot because you look
around the league and between Baker and Gino Smith and
Russell Wilson and Jamis, like those guys have value and
they're not making top dollar. Who are we not thinking
of that? We'll be talking about this upcoming off season.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
I don't know if there's great names. I think there's
I think you know, Houston already locked up Davis Mills,
and maybe you're not a huge Davis Mills fans, but
I think as they were building the Texans, Davis Mills
did a pretty good job, and I think that's why
they went and locked him in, and he took the
bait and took it. And whether Davis Mills is ever
going to be a good start of the league or
like a great starter like you know, to do with
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you know, obviously what Baker's doing right now. I don't
know if I see that, but I certainly see a
guy that I think has a lot more potential in
front of him, and maybe not the guy that everybody's
got their eye on, like, oh, okay, I never thought
about Davis Mills, but you got to think he was
with a Texans team that was really still not where
the talent level they are today and still was able
to be productive out there. I think that's kind of
a hidden guy that I would think about when you
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kind of asked me that kind of a question. But
I think like Jamis, you know, he was part of
at the thirty thirty club, right he threw thirty touchdowns
with through thirty interceptions that played before the touchdown he
almost had a pick, So you know, he's he's going
to be a guy that's going to give you a
little bit of a rollercoaster ride. But it's happy to
see it for him. But I do think there is value,
that there's experience that they've played with. I mean Gardner Minshew,
like him or not, I've always felt like agent should
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be the starter. I think Gardner Minshew can have a
career in this league for the other seven years because
I think you feel like if you put him in,
you have a chance to stay in the game and win.
But he's not going to take you to where I
think again, maybe one of these players like what Baker's
been able to do in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, high floora low ceiling, exactly. Flor Hey man, I
really appreciate you joining us and look forward to talking
with you next week. Enjoy the college and pro football
this weekend. We'll talk to you then.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Sounds great, Doug, have a good weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's the one and only Mark Dominic. He joins us
every week here on The Doug gottlief Show. Former Gentlem
manager of the tam Bay Buccaneers. Coming up next to
The Doug Gotlieb Show live from the tyrack dot Com Studios.
Who's the NFL's MVP so far? Find out next.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. Little
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all right? Sezy tod does have good energy. That's a
good call. This time the Doug Gottlieb Show live in
the Fox Sports Radio from the tyrack dot com studios.
We turn over to Dan Byer and play a game.
Speaker 10 (31:00):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Hey Dan, Hi, what do you got?
Speaker 8 (31:09):
What's up Doug? The game today is I Got DIBs? Okay,
so I got dibbs. Is a game for those that
don't know, is when we throw out a topic and
just like you would with your buddies or pals, you'd
say I got DIBs on whatever the possibilities could be
within that topic. Three of them today and we start
(31:29):
in the National Football League. The first topic if I
got dibbs the NFL MVP through eight plus weeks of
the season.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Dan, you got your fighting off something a little bit
little sick?
Speaker 8 (31:42):
I am very yeah. Yeah. It's uh feels like a
thousand pounds of pressure on my head. Got me under pressure.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Obviously, as you can tell my voice. I thought through
a little bit, you know, Yeah, that's some great suburban grit.
We got to make a recommendation. Sure, I'd become a
big proponent of bone broth because the boone broth, no
bone broth, it's like the new it's like the new
chicken broth, only I think they make it with the
bones of meat. I don't know. I mean whatever, it's good,
(32:11):
sure good. It's kind of salty. It tastes like something
your mom would say, drink this, you'll feel better that.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
A little vixed vapor rub well, vix.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Vapor rub is that's a solid call right there.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
You just did it last night on my nose and throat.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
We are right now through like a middle phase of it.
It was a sore throat earlier in the week, and
now it's a lot of congestion.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Do you do you when you're sick? Do you sleep
next to Lisa or do you go like in the
guest room.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Well, last time I couldn't get this sleep to like
three am, so I slept on the futon in the loft.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There you go, phuton loft. Isn't that no problem?
Speaker 8 (32:49):
Yeah? I didn't want to get her sick, and Brodie
sleeps in our room. As well.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So yeah, Brody's like Dad out, yeah, out, coming down
up with sugar eye here. Okay, I just raced around,
raced around the neighborhood. Okay, I'm about to pass out
and there's about to be cavities on my teeth. I
need you to leave, you know, to leave the premises.
You got to get out of the room.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
You're like you neat my candy and peace Dad, I
mean you can't have you in hear coughing and spreading germs.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
All right, let's let's get to the game. I got
DIBs and the topic Number one is NFL MVP so
far this season.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
I got DIBs on Jared Goff. We steal that right
out of ducks back pocket. Yeah you mean you right
out of the gate, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Right out of he said gates.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
He's completing like over eighty percent of his passes the
last five games. The guy's on fire.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
That was a good game. Okay, what's next.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
I got DIBs on Derrick Henry of the Baltimore Ravens.
I know the Lamar gets a lot of the headlines,
but it's Derrick Henry that I think is the true
the true guy who can have them topple the Chiefs.
And right now when you lead the NFL by like
two hundred yards in rush, Yeah, Derrick Henry right now
is my MVP.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I got DIBs on Lamar Jackson. That's right in Dan's face.
Derrick Henry could not do what he's doing if someone
didn't give him the ball.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
In my face in the fish, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I got DIBs on on Josh Allen. Okay, Cush fourteen touchdowns,
one reception. Bill's having a really good year. Cush all right.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Second topic, Dodgers right now celebrating at Dodgers Stadium their
World Series championship. I don't know if Jason Stewart has
FOMO or not, but I'm sure a lot of Dodger
fans wish they were there. And I know that there
are a lot of baseball teams twenty nine others that
wish that they were doing what the Dodgers were doing
right now. So, guys, and I got DIBs major League
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baseball team that you want to see win a world title.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I mean, I got DIBs of my Angels. It's been
twenty two years. Twenty two years, all.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Right, shouldn't this be like realistic, like somebody has a
realistic chance the next twenty years of winning.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, yeah, I do want a different I do want
to pick another team. But I had to pick our team,
didn't I or my team?
Speaker 8 (35:23):
If you couldn't pick your team, because I was.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Okay, I'd like to see the Brewers. I got DIBs
in the Brewers.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And by the way, what happened to the Yankees will
not happen to the Brewers. In terms of fielding, I
was told I don't know this for a fact, but
I was told by one of their front office guys
that everyone in their starting lineup was a former shortstop.
Like they value speed and defense almost above everything else.
(35:49):
And then you know, Jackson Trio is so good, so good.
Speaker 9 (35:53):
I got DIBs on my New York Mets. Come on, baby,
I need another. It's been a listen I the year
I was born, eighty six year I was born, and
they haven't won one since. So come on, mine Mets,
big up with Sam once this Mets to win one.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
I'm shocked. I'm shocked you were born in eighty six.
Like whenever Doug talks to you and your rage on
this show, it's like you're twenty one, yes, but the
other day we're very twenty ten, and Doug was like,
were you even born yet?
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Sam?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I want to be for real young is a young spirit.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I got DIBs on the Mariners good care never won
one like the Brewers. Sure, yeah, it'd be nice to
get one up in there. The Pacific Northwest don't really
have a dog in the fight, but it'd be cool
to see them have some success. All right, final question.
We may have done this before. I had deja vun
(36:46):
running it down. Favorite time of the day, and I'm
talking actual time, top of the hour, not like mourning,
but like a specific time. But it doesn't have to
be like eight forty two a top of the hour.
Favorite time of day. I got DIBs on ten am.
I don't know if it's because that's when Prices Right starts,
(37:09):
but it's morning. It's yeah. I love ten am.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh I love six pm usually right about sunset.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Okay, I love pm. Guy, Yeah, I got DIBs on
seven pm. That's when Jeopardy starts. Jeopardy starts. Your Your
Day's over.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
By Wapner Wapner's at four Wapner's at four and.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I'm a night guy. I took a morning time. Iowa, Sam,
I'll go.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
I'll take DIBs on one pm. Because there's still a
lot of daylight left in top of the you know,
the sun's high in the sky.
Speaker 8 (37:40):
One o'clock, a lot of day left, and it's when
the Midway starts exactly. That's game time.
Speaker 10 (37:50):
This is game time. On the Dug god Leaf.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Show, the Yankees collapse. How much of that is they're
not very good fielders? How much of that was the
pressure the moment. We'll ask the former All Star who
won a World Series next in the Doug Outlet Show,
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