November 4, 2024 • 40 mins
Doug explains why he is at the famous restaurant Eskimo Joe's in Stillwater, OK as his Green Bay Phoenix take on the Oklahoma State Cowboys in Doug's first game as a d-1 head coach. Eskimo Joe's owner Stan Clark joins Doug to chat about the history of the place and about the days when Doug played for the Cowboys.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottl.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Tradio iHeartRadio app.
That's really creepy when you start talking and people are
about to have lunch, I know, and all of a sudden,
my you know, gravelly voice starts yelling at them. They're like,
I was just in mid conversation, Dan Byer. But we
are live today from Eskimo Joe's, which is pretty much
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the only thing outside of Boone Pickens Stadium in gallaghery
Brena that most people know about Stillater, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It is the first thing I learned about Stillwater, Oklahoma.
I'll tell you that much. I had a kid growing up.
His mom was from Oklahoma. He had about five different
Eskimo Joe T shirts that he would always wear.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
True story.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, So I don't know Stan Clark, the owners probably
stopped by at some point in time. I don't know
if the stat is true, but it's one of those
that they tell you when you get here, and then
you know, like if somebody tell you something enough, whether
or that's true or not. You just kind of believe
it and repeat it. So supposedly it was at one
time or maybe still is the number two selling shirt
(01:11):
all time, like in America, really to the hard rock
cafe shirts because you remember people also I should. This
is a know more about me moment. I grew up,
obviously in southern California, and the number one T shirt
you had to have to be cool was the in
and Out Burger T shirt and my brother had two
of them, and I ruined both of them by getting
(01:33):
spots on them. But I would his school started before
it minded, see, and I go into his closet, take
his T shirt and come back wear it, get back
from school, put in his closet. Only that I al
would always get stuff on my shirts. So I don't
know how we got there. But we're live at Eskimo
Joe's and we're gonna do a special ind the Bonus Pod,
which is the it's called the talkie Talkie pot. Normally,
(01:55):
do you're annoying? Although I do think Jason didn't have
an annoying moment. It was a very funny moment last night.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, we can get to that.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We also have we are T minus at the time,
of this recording. My math's bad six hours and forty
five minutes from tip off of my coaching career, and
and my son's like, why are you doing your show today?
I was like, Well, if I wasn't doing my show today,
what would I be doing? I would, I guess be watching.
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I guess I'm supposed to watch more and more tape.
So what I'm supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You can't do enough work, Doug.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
As you told us work.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And actually when we were talking with Tim from asking
about Joes earlier, he said the same thing. Hayes in
the barn, right, what are you? What else are you
gonna do? Shoot Around's over?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
There's no like magic plays like oh wait, wait, wait wait,
I got an idea. Okay, everything we did, we're gonna
do the opposite. Like it's not how it actually works.
So I'm not diminishing the value of taking some time
to yourself. I have because the games data clock gets
a little bit better. Yeah, I have a couple hours
to kind of catch my breath. Here we get done,
just so people understand our schedule as a team. Three
(03:07):
point thirty we have pregame meal and then four to
fifteen will go over quick little scout. Then they've got
a couple hours to themselves. That's when I have to
take the time to myself and then we'll I guess
we're busting the Gala grad. But now, also this is
kind of a weird thing which has sort of helped
us in our favor, is there were torrential rains this
morning in thunderstorms. So this is one of those kind
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of meant to be things. So my son, Hayes is
he goes to high school about forty minutes from here
in Edmund, and we practiced there last night. It was cool,
and you know, part of the back and forth was
do you miss school today? Because all it was like
shoot around pregame and again like he's just hanging out
the hotel. But this morning is school is canceled. So
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I think supposedly there's supposed to be another band of thunderstorms.
Have you guys heard this? Yes, I don't know what
this band is called or who their lead singer is,
but apparently this is a hardcore band of thunders. That's
my dad joking.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's good, especially when it deals with devastation. But go ahead,
that's very good.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But I must say the on the weather tip.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I don't want to become a weather radio here, but yeah,
when I go to a new city or a state
that I've never been in, which is the case with Oklahoma,
I always want to experience, like what the state experience.
When I go to Seattle, I wanted to rain. When
I went to London, I wanted it to be foggy.
So I get to Oklahoma and we're down in Stillwater
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on Saturday night. I'm seeing on Twitter that there are
tornadoes as close as Oklahoma City.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
So I get story.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Leased, you gave me the experience of the state.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Now are you Are you familiar with you? Did you
did local sports?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes? I did the whole shebang.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, so uh. A dear friend of mine's guy named
Mark Rogers. Mark was my original radio partner in Oklahoma City.
He's coming to the game tonight, and he talks about
how all the sports guys say that when the weather
guys get their days like this, they get the weather woody, right,
they get really excited because they just take.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Over the newsnight.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh yeah, they take over the news like nothing else matters,
Like there's an election tomorrow, right, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I can I tell you what my like Baptism of
Oklahoma weather sure was, Yeah, so we did this. Remember
we did this on Thursday or Friday. Favorite time of
the day, told you ten am. Price is right starts.
That's my favorite time of the day watching prices.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
They play two games and then tornado warning break in graphics.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
The whole deal. They had weather spotters out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The weather sponsors were sponsored by a roofing company.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Sure like, like think about it, like, let's work together.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Let's go out to Ken and Carroll, who are over
in Boone County, over northwest Boon, and what does it
look like? And then they have the picture of the
two people in the car and then it says, you know,
Jones Roofing, like it's sponsored. It's amazing in a tornado warning.
Actually the weather looks.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Perfect at it's there's gonna be more bands come through Tulsa.
But everything is relatively storm up lous east of us.
So I think we're good. But the cool thing is
so harper. And my daughter, I think normally, you know,
she has like workouts at like six in the morning,
and you know, the games that ate at night. Normally
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she'd be just worn out by the entire day. And
so even though I mean I want her to come
to the game and experience the game and all that
other stuff. I would understand if she didn't have the
normal level energy. They canceled school today. Wow, so the
campus is kind of wet and soggy. But there's just
a fear of a second band. But looks like the
band is not coming through here now. Maybe something else
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will pop up I'm not really familiar with. But looks
pretty good. Looks pretty good anyway. Welcome to Oklahoma, where
I told Jason because I think I texted this. We
haven't talked about this on air to those of you
who have listened to us since Jason joined the show
a couple of years ago. He hates the I guess
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November fourth? Is it November already? I can't believe it's
November already.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
It's like low hanging fruit for small talk.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Right, did he get on the elevator with a with
a stranger?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, it's easy to go. Can you believe it's already November?
So it's always an good icebreaker.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Low hanging fruit in Oklahoma's well? Need the rain? Right?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Made the rain?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We could use it?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, we could use it. Me the rain has anybody
ever said like, nah, we're good. You know, made the
rain they need.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I would say, now, they don't need it. Did need
the rain.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
There were actually brush fires. I guess last week it
was pretty dry. But again, there's never been a time
and I've I've I've been a part of Oklahoma culture, right.
I lived here for on and off for like seven
or eight years, and I've always been back. There's never
been a time where it's ever rained in the Sooner
State and anyone's ever said, well, we don't need that rain.
(08:02):
You know. I'm sure in Iowa where they have that flooding.
They often have flooding, you know, in Iowa in the
summer sometimes, you know, like they're probably like, we're good,
but yeah, I've never noticed a storm come through. They
don't need the tornadoes, they don't need the wind shear.
I got another one for you. So I have a buddy.
His name is Jay McCarty. Shout out to you, Jay.
He's coming up to the game tonight as well. And
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Jay and I used to live right down the street
from each other, and during severe weather he'd come. I
had a basement and he didn't come in the basement,
and we watched the weather challs and we had drinking
games based upon the terms. Right, there's like wind sheer lowering.
Hook echo is a bad thing when you're a hook echo.
You know that means a tornado. I heard a lot
of hook yeah this morning I did yeah, hook echo.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
There's that hook there it is.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You watch these I don't know how they do it.
They look at these radars and they see this little
kind of hook and they're like, that's a tornado.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's a nator.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I guess here's usually I do this thing. But
I'll just you, guys, what are you interested in terms
of this day? For me, for my team, this experience.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I mean, I don't think we can make a big
enough deal out of this that a Division one head
coach is about to play his alma mater in college
basketball and he is a full time radio host as well.
This is a true unique situation. I don't think we
could put enough attention on that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
So I don't want to ever lose sight of that
that you do this for a living, and you do
that for a living, and we've all come to the
place where you're going to play your alma mater. I
think that's just a really cool deal, a true one off.
No one will ever do it again. Yes, and I
want to keep stating that.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I had some friends who my son. That was
part of my argument with his mom. What wasn't really
an argument, which is like, it's one night show, right,
It's like a one like I would love if they
want to play us every year. Cool, we'll do it
every year if they want it. Is you're like, hey,
we're gonna go play somebody else, right, So yeah, it's
like it's a one night show. It's a grand opening,
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green closing, and well we'll see. So I'm excited for
my kids. I just I the idea. The idea my
mind is I wanted something that Obviously Oklahoma State's at
a higher level than us, you know, it's a it's
a different level of the sport what they have, and
they're much older. They have four graduate seniors. I have two,
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but only ones a scholarship player, and all of their
players that played high major basketball. I have thirteen guys
of my eight team, we have fifteen here that haven't
played a college basketball game ever. So there's going to
be a stiff learning curve tonight. But I wanted to
show them like one, what it's all about. Two Like
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this is where I'm from, this is me, this is
what I represent and what's important and sacred to me,
and I all think, and this is really cool. We
didn't go to the final four. People all oftentime like
we played big countries, Like, no, I didn't play a
big country as ninety five. Oh you played No.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Four.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's like, now that's John Lucas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We only went to the lead eight.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We lost to Florida and it wasn't like we lost
in the last second shot. They beat our ass. But
the point is that my team, my group is widely
seen as maybe the most beloved over the last twenty
five thirty years. And I mean, I have some idea
as to why. But the biggest reason why was like
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we were really really connected as teammates but also as people.
And then we all had because we were connected and
because we felt comfortable in being ourselves. We were ourselves
and we had like really big personalities out of it.
And I think that part is cool. I want them
to do that too. I want them to do that
at Green Bay to where they just like like again.
(11:54):
We didn't win as championship. We didn't get to the
final four, we didn't win the Big Twelve or the
Big Twelve tournament, got the championship game, didn't win, could
have won the Big twelve, last home game of my career,
didn't do it. Yet we still I still feel an
incredible amount of love from fans and friends like we
did something super special. We did even if the end
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game wasn't final for national Championship, Big Tell Championship, Big
Tal Term Championship. That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm curious about the ovation tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Oh, it'll be standing, so i'd be standing.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Wait, hold on, wait a second, wait to make a
nice moment.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I wanted the air and the coach of the Green
Bay Phoenix. Do No, it'll be so.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Larry Reese is the play by play guy, and Larry
is first he's a man. Second, he's great player play guy.
I mean that the Papa announcer, p announcer, and he'll
I would guess what do you think, tim, He'll say
he'll say something that welcome home Cowboy. It'd be like
welcome home Cowboy, or and then he'll say something before that.
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When I get choose, say the head coach the Green
Bay Phoenix, and I'll say something I don't know what
it is, and then we'll yeah, and then I'll say
welcome home, cowboy. And he's got one of those he's
like when I got working with my voice. He's got
kind of like naturally and it's it sounds really good.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So I'm curious to hear that. That's what I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Now, have you guys been in gallaghery yet?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You didn't go to shoot a run.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Nope, I want to experience.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I was kind of doing my thing.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And I had and and by the way, I just
told you a story ten minutes ago. I was watching
The Price is Right at ten o'clock and then the
weather that's in. So that was during shoot around. So
there's no way I was going to make shoot around
and miss the Price Right.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I forgot how important the Price is Right is in
the world.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I want to experience the gym or the arena at
the same gym.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, it was better when it was a gym. Yeah,
well that's that. Tim just said, you're no olo. I'm
supposed tornado coverage, right, You got to know the terms
lowering power flash you know power flashes. No, that's when
that's when the wind blows up like a transformer. And
that's how you know sometimes if there's a tornado coming,
if you can't see it, if you see power flash.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Listen to Power Flash the group in the eighties, the
Power Group in the eighties with the Deuran Durango brothers
and the Robert.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Palmer is a power station.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Power station, that's right, that was deep in your bag
for that one.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Robert Plant. Robert Palmer's great. Robert Plant's great too, but
Robert Palmer's.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Can we tell the story? Can we tell the story
of good Taste Sam of Jason Stewart last night?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Let's do it?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Are you okay with it?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Let's do it?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So did I get some context though?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And then you could then you could tell the story.
But the context.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I'll give you context in one second. So just for
people who are listening to the pod, understand forty sets
the context of it.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yesterday my team landed at four point thirty ish. Then
we had a practice at Edmon Memorial High School my
son goes, and then we had planned on having dinner
at the Holiday's house. That's Matt Holliday and Leslie Holliday
and their family, and they're wonderful, wonderful people. So anyway,
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I brought my whole crew, so we have twenty five
in our travel party. Then there were a couple of
other kind of stragglers and Matt his family and some
of his friends. My daughter was there, her friends Lapio.
Probably about fifty people. And okay, so then you give
the context to your story.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
All right.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
So remember several weeks ago when Tyreek Hill got pulled
over for speeding and he acted, I could jerk, and
the cop got a little too rough with him. So anyways,
it caused this big culture war conversation the day after,
and I remember you going on the year and saying
that my assistant coach who played in the NBA, Thomas,
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just sent me this note.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And then you read the note on the air.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Okay, And I remember in that moment thinking, wait a minute,
Eton Thomas as an assistant with Doug. That's really cool.
I know Syracuse basketball. I go back thirty years with
Syracuse basketball. Eton Thomas is on Doug's staff, and I
just put it in my mind as fact. So then
we get to last night, There's literally a greeting line
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of people. I'm greeting all your players, thanks for coming,
good to see you, good luck tomorrow. And then Tyrus
Thomas is at the end of the line and he says, Hey,
what's up, man, I'm Tyris. And the first thing I
thought was I shook his hand and said, I'm a
huge Syracuse fan. So you explain to the listeners what
(16:38):
the flaw is in that story, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Tyris Thomas is from Baton Rouge, Louisiana and played at LSU. Yeah,
where they went to the Final four, and then he
was the fourth pick in the NBA Draft, playing for
the Chicago Bulls and then later the Charlotte Hornets. I think,
I don't know if it's Bob Cats or Hornets Eton.
Thomas ironically is actually from the state of Oklahoma. He's
from Booker T. Wathington High School there you go, and
went to Syracuse and is also, I mean, he is
(17:03):
very politically active, right.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Hey Stan, how are you you to come on?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Come on, come sit down? So anyway, uh, it was.
It was a very funny moment. So then I told
Tyris today, Tyris is like I explained him. He's like, oh,
I had no idea what he was talking about.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm so sorry. I didn't get a chance to apologize.
It was just really awkward. Anyways, a huge flub on
my part. I mixed with Thomas's.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So join us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Is
no other than Stan Clark. Stan is the owner operator
of several different restaurants here in Stillwater, but most notably
Eskimo Joe's. Okay, we got a bunch to get to,
a bunch to dig into here. But I do want
to ask, what was it ever? Or is it still
an actual true statistic that the Eskimo Joe's T shirt
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is the second most selling T shirt in the US.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Now, what'd you say? You want to say that again?
I'm just kidding, you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Know, I can't substantiate that, Doug, Okay, but one of
those like rumors that you plan in. You're like, who
said that? Like, I don't know, Like everybody says it
must be true.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
It sounds so good coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Now.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
The truth is on November the twenty eighth to nineteen
eighty eight, not that I remember, the Tulsa World published
that we were one of the second most pardon me,
they published the third most collectible T shirt in the country,
behind Hard Rock London and Hard Rock New York.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
So of course Oklahoma's immediately.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Lumped hard Rock and before you knew it, we're the
second most soul t shirt.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Love it in the world.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
And so it was almost a self fulfilling prophecy because
that year, from November twenty eight till the twelve, twenty
four of eighty eight, our sales just went through the
roof because all of a sudden we were ranked. You know,
we're rated, and you know how big that is sports
or whatever. So it was really, uh well, it was
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really good for business. And it's interesting, what was that
eighty eight just thirty six years ago? Or some people
still repeated I promised you could sit in Joe's clothes today,
and some guests would be telling another guest that you
know that that's the case.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So what's it like to create something and you become
synonymous with a town with a place on her I
mean it just because I you know, I've I've I've
seen a lot of places, I've done a lot of things. Yeah,
and when you go like, but where's where's still Where's
Oklhoma State? Like still are Like you mean that Eskimo
Joe's place? Like what does that ask do? Like literally
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you're synonymous with something.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, it's certainly been a huge blessing, and we've obviously
been right in the shadows of Oklahoma State for it'd
be fifty.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Years next July.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
So it's it's just been an absolute blast. And uh,
of course wouldn't have ever come here in the first place,
Tulsa native. So I came over here to go to
school and never left. Opened Joe's two months after I
graduated from oaklham State, which was a ton of fun college.
Actually a kid I met on the first day of
school in the fifth.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Grade named Steve File.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
We grew up together, went all through high school and
then four years at Oaklhoma State together.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
And so I'm laying on the couch at.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
His place Sunday, two weeks after graduation, and anyway, Steve
walks in. He goes Hey, Clark coming open a bar, said, man,
all these bars, rent are doing great. Hey, I know
where there's this neat little two story building for I'm
going partners with you.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
So that's the inception of Joe's.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Ten minutes later, we took hands with the guy who
owned the building, and that's how we started this crazy thing.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
You read it first, Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Thank god he was here. If he had been here
that day, we probably never would have come back.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
What was the right.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
It's funny you ask, so it was.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
He said in the boys, if you want to just
like you see it, I need three hundred and fifty
a month. If you will be putting air conditioner in it,
I'm going to need four hundred. We said, yes, sir,
we'll need an air tod in Oklahoma.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, take it, We'll take it.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
When did it hit, Well, you know what, I felt
like it hit the first night because I could just
tell people really liked the joint. I love to tell
a story. We hired our first team member out of
the first night's crowd, and what I'm most proud of
about that is that she worked for us for over
two years. I just think it it's just an indication
(21:17):
that we actually got how important people were and how
important in our relationship was going to be with each
and every guest we had the honor of serving, and so.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
We did that.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
And we started building the brand really from the very first.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Night, because we made people feel welcome and special and
showed him a good time.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And then how the T shirt thing take off?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Thank you Tim All.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
So the T shirt deal another just fluke thing.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
We did all the remodeling work ourselves because we couldn't
afford to hire anybody. And so while we were pounding away,
some guys knocked on the front door for ever open.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
They'd started a screenprinning business the same summer.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
They said, hey, why don't you guys print that neat
logo on the front of some T shirts. We thought, well,
we've been thinking about coasters and beer glasses and stuff.
We said, yeah, we might give that a shot. Anyway,
we ordered seventy two T shirts. I thought it'd take
us a year of this.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Why would you order seventy two? That's just such a d.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Six dozen kind of sell them a dozens. We did
three dozen gold ones and three dozen like blue ones,
printed them all in one color, and son of a gun,
we sold every one of those.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
The first week we were open.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
So it was just foreshadowing of good things to come.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
And you know, we we weren't smart enough to manage
that part of it very effectively. You know, we'd sell
completely out and take me a month to get some
back in. But I do remember fast forward about ten years.
I remember telling my bank or we were doing a
business review, like a young a young businessman, especially guy
into our business has to do frequently because they had
figured you're going to fold up tomorrow, you know, or sure,
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drink it all up, or you know, do something. So anyway,
but I just remember I took our income statement and
his name was Stan, Stan White, Rest his soul anyway,
I said, Stan, I think this line right here is
going to really start to mean something. That month, we'd
sold ten thousand dollars worth Eskimo Joe's T shirts over
the bar, this long before Eskimo Joe's closed.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What year about? Pardon me, what year is this about?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I wish I could tell you. I'm a little fuzzy
on that.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Okay, By the time we opened Joe's Clothes in nineteen
eighty seven, we were doing a lot more than that.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
But I just remember, I mean that was that was money.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Man.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
That's quite a few T shirts.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
No, it's a lot of Right over the bar, we
had a little closet right behind the bar, and most
of them were stashed in an apartment across the parking lot.
So I still have heel spurs of this day from
a guest wanting a shirt. I ran out the back door,
unlocked the apartment over there, ran all the way down
there in the hall, unlocked that door, grabbed the right
T shirt lock lock back across the parking lot, and
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that's how we sold T shirts.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
And but you know, again, it was a tiny place, as.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You and then and then for people that also don't know,
the cups are actually probably more synonymous, like if you
go anyone who's been here, like, hey, give me a
Joe's cup, okay, And now they have the ones where
they where they're like he'd activated as well, right when
you pour it in and then it turns a different color.
When do the cup idea come out?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Well, you know that that came actually from a beer distributor,
and he came across these things. I don't even know
exactly where he saw him, to be honest, but he said, Clark,
you got to look at this. This is the coolest cup.
And so anyway he had seen this week, say twenty
two ounce fluted cup.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
And we've said that forever.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
But actually, if you fill this to the brim, it's
twenty four ounces. We've miss stated that it's twenty two
ounce cup for so long there's no reason to try to.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Change that in anybody's mind. But anyway, how.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Much do you spend in cups a year? Because like,
if you go my house in Green Bay, Wisconsin, I
have one hundred of them. I have a bar in
my basement. It's stacked with Joe's cups. Every every time
I've ever come back and visited for years. You know,
people grab Joe's cups and by the way, like you
give the if you drink them, you give them away, right,
So maybe it cuts down to your trash waste or
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or how much you do in terms of cause you
have a kind of standard old school kind of plastic
cups as well. Right, how much you spend on cups
a year?
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Oh, I I don't know this, but I don't even
know the number on how much we spend.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
But we get them in in the.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Semi trailer truck loads at a time. They're actually made
in Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Kansas, which is interesting and no idea.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
But and our friends at many Keith Foods, they back
haul them for us from Lawrence, Kansas to hear because
many keith out of Oklahoma City actually services all the
way to Kansas City every single day, so they bring
them down for us. We actually built a building from
the ground up to store Joe's cupsy, So.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
They're a big deal.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
They're a big They are a big deal, hundreds of
thousands a year.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
And uh, you know, just who.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Would have thunk the other thing is? And the guys
noticed this. It wasn't like this when I went to
school here. So I finished twenty four years ago, right,
and part of it is four years You're just a pup,
I understand. But they went to the game. They went
to the game on Saturday, and there wasn't a soul
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at that game that unless you were an Arizona State
fan that didn't have something osure yeah right, not just
wearing you know, orange and black. And I remember when
Terry Don Phillips was the athletic director. I think it
was his wife that came up with the idea of
real fans wear orange. And that's when people started to
wear orange to all the games, right, And then they
(26:40):
kind of changed the tinge of orange and made America's
brightest orange whatever. But it feels like the last ten years,
like it has just taken off in terms of the
association with the school and the orange, and literally everyone
wears something. Is that about the timeline?
Speaker 6 (26:59):
I think you're pretty close, you know. I know.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
I remember when we beat Notre Dame in that in
that Bowl game, Gundy comes back.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
And says, well, you know, we're brand.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Remember that.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
That's kind of infamous. Ed I just thought that was cool.
But you're you're so right. Yeah, people take tremendous pride
here and again our I love the slogan loyal and true.
And you know, even when we aren't at our finest,
I do think most of our fans do remain loyal
and true. And I can assure you I have and
(27:31):
I always will. But man, when you were playing here,
that was our heyday. That was so much fun. I
remember when coach Sutton first got hired. My brother in
law called me that very day. He says, Clark keiviny
deaf season tickets. I said, no, job, never had him.
He said, well, you better get some, because you just
hired the best coach in the country. And sure enough,
(27:53):
boy was he ever right? And I did get him
and I've had.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Him ever since.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know, my uh our kind of seminole moment my
senior year, guys, was we played Kansas and what and
coach never beat Kansas at Kansas ever. So now there
was about a fifteen year stretch where you played because
the Big twelve you played every other year. So there
are plenty of his best teams that didn't play up there.
But regardless of my junior year, we lost on a
(28:20):
controversial call in overtime, and so my senior year, like
we were waiting for him and we beat him by
thirty three and it was the worst loss Roy Williams
had ever had.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But my memories of everything else are far more vivid.
So they were redoing the arena at the time. They
built a shell over the top of the arena and
they doubled its size, and because of it, parking was
extremely limited, and we shoved all of our cars next
to there's a brand new church there now, but there
used to be a church. Everyone's car got towed, like
on the team, the total car. And of course what
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you'd do is you'd come, you'd walk to chose or
in that case we'd drive to Joe's and then we'd
watch the game again, right, or watch for yourself on
sports Center, and you guys left it open. It was
like a late night, like eight o'clock games. So you
get done at ten, then we're like, holy, holy shit,
our car got our cars got towed. So we walked
down here like eleven fifteen, and there's a bunch of
(29:16):
people here and by about like you know, we watch
ourselves on sports Center, which is on it at midnight,
right because it's the old East Coast one AM sports Center.
Then it gets done and then they like maybe you
flip back to ESPNU that all of a sudden the
game was on. This is before ESPNU anyway, So that
that's one memory, and then another one was is actually
(29:38):
going back my sophomore year. We lost to Duke in
the NCAA tournament and we were picked dead last in
the Big twelve and we end up winning the South
and so we played Duke and we should have won
the game. We didn't execute down the stretch. They beat us.
Two days later was Saint Patrick's Day. So Saint Patrick's
Day of Joe's is what green egg hit Green Eggs
and beer, right, green Eggs and beer. Oh yeah, and
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I lived, and I was I was telling somebody earlier
I lived, there's a brand new apartment right down here
off Elm across the street. So I literally got up
walked down here, and it is like ten in the morning,
and we're drinking beers. And because we had almost beaten Duke,
it was like we were knighted. I'd like one to
grab somebody, but like get like buying us shots. We're
like five shots and we're like, you know, we lost,
(30:22):
right Like art just was the my beers for people
who win games, but this is always this is like
the celebratory place. And yeah, so there's a lot of
just great memories and they all do wrap around Joe.
So it's it's really really special.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
It's wonderful to how old your twins now to see
you and and Doug actually did come here.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I can vouch for that.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
How old your twins now.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Twins are twenty Maguire's twenty two.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
And so kids are all doing great, all still right
here in still Water, which of course Shane and I
are thrilled about.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
And uh so everything's good.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I have twins and one is is it a Questrian
for Oklahoma State? Awesome and the other one is she's
gonna en roll here in the in the winter quarter.
So she started. So I got I got two and
I love uh and and I actually had to talk
my son into wearing green tonight because he's like, Dad,
(31:18):
I'm I'm an Oklahoma State guy, right. I was like, dude,
your dad coaches the other team. I was like, where
do you get Where are you getting tickets?
Speaker 8 (31:26):
Otherwise I just had to say, you know, I love
the green and it would be perfect for Saint Patrick's Day,
but didn't work out there.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Way it didn't work out. I will see you on
Saint Patrick's Day. I'll wear the green. Otherwise, I'll always
come back in orange tonight. It's the only night that
I won't be cheering for the guys that will use it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
I can't thank you enough for being here. I wish
you all the very best. Brother, It's good to you
the best.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Stan Clark, the owner proprietor here of all the Joe's
Family of restaurants, Thank you, Sammy. So so what else? What?
Speaker 8 (31:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
What are the other questions that you have? Anything else?
We had game planning questions. I mean, I don't think
anybody's going to listen to this, by the way, and
be because by the time somebody listens to this, pot
the game's probably gonna be going lets unless we get like,
we're not gonna get postponed because there's no weather.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
How about this, but give the listeners the reason why
you won tonight?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, I did I win just coaching the team.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, I'm saying your team and points wins the game.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Why how can we win the game night? So here's
how Oklahoma State plays. Right, this team, they play exceptionally,
exceptionally fast. They pushed the ball in transition with reckless
abandon They were top twenty five last year in pace
of play, which is good. We want to play fast.
We want to score. We played a scrimmage, we scored
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one hundred and three. We pored subishing game, we scored
one hundred and two. So we want to play fast,
but we want to slow them down some. So there's
a couple of ways to slow them down. The first
is to score, because when you score, you can set
up what's called containment press. Everybody thinks that when you press,
(33:08):
you press to speed somebody up or to trap them.
We're pressing to the slow you down and just take
some time off the clock and make you set up
your offense. So in order to win this game, we
have to slow them down some. We have to rebound
the basketball, and then I think most importantly, I have
to not turn them ball over because they play incredibly
(33:28):
hard and incredibly physical, and in games like this, the
basketball expression is they don't give you a check. We
get a check for tonight's game, and then give you
a call. You don't get both. You can get one
or the other. You want to call good, no check,
you want to check. No calls. So for my guys,
they have to understand that the physicality they're going to
(33:50):
play against is really hard to replicate with our personnel.
Their guys are stronger, are older, are bigger, and we
have to fight through that. So to win to night's game,
we got to play through that physicality without turn the
ball over. We really have to execute what we want
to do offensively. It doesn't mean what happens when you
tell people have to execute, They think that means you
have to be slow and precise, like they don't you
(34:12):
do it quickly, but just execute. Make reads not turn
the ball over, because when you do, they race them
back up the court. And then we got to slow
them down, and we gotta we got to defend the
second shot. I generally fall on the side of playing
small rather than big. They play big rather than small.
So I do think we can spread them out and
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we'll shoot a lot of threes. We also want to
shoot layup twos, and then we want to make them
shoot contested threes. They shot the ball very well in
their in their scrimmage. That was. That was I think
everybody had got the stats from. I don't know about
the other one against which tall stat I think it was.
I have no idea the numbers there. I think they're
(34:54):
an okay shooting team, but I think they're an outstanding
transition team and rebounding team. So we'll have to do that.
We are at the time of this recording. What's what's
the line?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I don't know what the line is, but I do
know that you've given us a line that only a
coach would say.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Can't turn the ball over tonight, can't do it, can't
do it. We're gonna win.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Can the team when the other team pressed Doug, I
get it, I get it. I'm just saying there's you
know now, it's this is where the coach creeps in.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But it's it's a real thing.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
We got to limit our mistakes and we can't turn
the ball over it. That's how we're gonna win this game,
sans coach.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
So they play up the line defensively. Okay, I understand.
I'm just trying to explain to people that they're listening.
So they play up the line. They pressure pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure,
so especially you can never turn the ball over to
your point. It is classic coach speak, but especially tonight.
And you gotta not be scared and not be scared.
And as much as you go like, well they're college
(35:48):
basketball players, like when you haven't played college basketball for
I have a kid named Ben Tweeties from Australia and
he's the best. He's eighteen years old. He played professional
ball this this summer for his dad and they're like,
he ain't never seen anything like this. So because generally
the way they pressure would be called a foul, like
(36:09):
when you're playing pickup ball or in Australia, like, it's
not a foul in college basketball. Sure you got to
play through it, so can't turn it over and give
up what's called pick sixes. You know you throw it
and they go down, they dun'k it. And because that place,
you'll you'll notice it is specifically designed to be loud.
So if there's I don't know if there's three thousand
and four thousand, five thousand people tonight, but when they
(36:31):
get it going, it sounds like twenty, it really does.
And if there's thirteen thousand, it sounds like fifty. So
I'd love to have thirteen thousand a night. The thunder
plate tonight. The weather's been bad, so I don't know
what it actually looks like. But yeah, I mean those
are the basic keys to it.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I'm excited. I really am.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
We've even been keeping our eye on some Vegas numbers.
So seventeen and a half, you're an underdog tonight, Well
it was just twenty twenty and the over under has
jumped over the last two days.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But you don't care about that.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I don't. I liked that the number was twenty like
look last year like last year.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, yeah, came was twenty point dogs.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well yeah, well that's Coach Hutton used to do that.
Coach Hutt would use the line against you. He would go,
you guys are seven point dogs, even Vegas thinks you think,
and then and then if your favorites, you're like, you
guys are four point favorites. What Vegas a bunchie? They
ain't senior practice, they don't know anything, but literally, Vegas,
(37:35):
it's a complete shot in the dark at my team,
right like we scrimmaged. We scrimmaged Notre of Illinois, noe
that no one has the tape, no one knows exists.
No stats were shared. And then we had next Vision
game against Saint Norbert where maybe they got the maybe
they got the score. Sure, but and Saint Org's a
really good team, their Division three team. So it's like
(37:57):
there's no real sense for who we are what we are.
I don't even know, you know, because everybody looks different
when the lights are on, the popcorns popping. Yeah, So
I don't know. I am fired up. It's gonna be
really cool. I mean, honestly, the uh, there's some special
people coming tonight. Zane Fleming's coming to night. Zane's the
dad of Nate Fleming. Nate was one of my teammates
(38:18):
who died in the plane crash. Means the world to
me that he's gonna be there, my my own kids
are gonna be there as well. So, like Jason started
by saying, like, this is a great one night show. Yeah,
this is my bar mitzvah, only my mom and dad.
I didn't have to study my off to hour portion
and my parents didn't have to pay for the for
the for the bartments.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Well truly, like if you were, if you were facing
Utah another big twelve A point, we wouldn't be in
like Salt Lake City.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah that's my point. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
So and next year we're gonna play Kansas, which will
be also be cool that one you got to come to.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah, that'd be great. So I've got my green hat
in the car ready to go. Well, I have church
for you guys and everything. Okay, so we'll be fired
up and ready to go. And I was sam'scuish too,
just I just knew just shirt put him at ease.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I think your shirt.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I think your shirt.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Thanks, guys.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Well that's gonna do it for the end the Bonus Podcast.
Unless you have something that's annoying you, Is there anybody
annoying you that you want to get to?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I know, we'll say that we actually had a submission.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Really, Tyrus Thomas says, It's annoying when people think I'm
like to Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It's hold on. Do you guys know what today is.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Other than November fourth?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Why is your I can't hear your mic? Can everybody else?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Here's mine?
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Other than November four?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yes, November four? Do you guys know what today is?
I'm gonna make I'm gonna make your day. You ready,
Today's the last day of political ads.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Oh there you go, right.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Which every which, by the way, is the worst day
for TV ads salespeople because they're like, oh my god,
now I actually got to go out and work, sure,
and and sell some ads. But is the best day
for TV viewers because, as it stands now, every one
of these people running for office are the worst human
beings on earth. It's on these ads. He hates cats,
she hates dogs. They all you know, this guy's.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
On our side. Yeah, yeah, not their side. He's on
our side. That's why he's my guy.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
That's it for the in the Motus podcast, check out
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Tradio iHeartRadio app.
That's really creepy when you start talking and people are
about to have lunch, I know, and all of a sudden,
my you know, gravelly voice starts yelling at them. They're like,
I was just in mid conversation, Dan Byer. But we
are live today from Eskimo Joe's, which is pretty much
(00:32):
the only thing outside of Boone Pickens Stadium in gallaghery
Brena that most people know about Stillater, Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It is the first thing I learned about Stillwater, Oklahoma.
I'll tell you that much. I had a kid growing up.
His mom was from Oklahoma. He had about five different
Eskimo Joe T shirts that he would always wear.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
True story.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, So I don't know Stan Clark, the owners probably
stopped by at some point in time. I don't know
if the stat is true, but it's one of those
that they tell you when you get here, and then
you know, like if somebody tell you something enough, whether
or that's true or not. You just kind of believe
it and repeat it. So supposedly it was at one
time or maybe still is the number two selling shirt
(01:11):
all time, like in America, really to the hard rock
cafe shirts because you remember people also I should. This
is a know more about me moment. I grew up,
obviously in southern California, and the number one T shirt
you had to have to be cool was the in
and Out Burger T shirt and my brother had two
of them, and I ruined both of them by getting
(01:33):
spots on them. But I would his school started before
it minded, see, and I go into his closet, take
his T shirt and come back wear it, get back
from school, put in his closet. Only that I al
would always get stuff on my shirts. So I don't
know how we got there. But we're live at Eskimo
Joe's and we're gonna do a special ind the Bonus Pod,
which is the it's called the talkie Talkie pot. Normally,
(01:55):
do you're annoying? Although I do think Jason didn't have
an annoying moment. It was a very funny moment last night.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, we can get to that.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We also have we are T minus at the time,
of this recording. My math's bad six hours and forty
five minutes from tip off of my coaching career, and
and my son's like, why are you doing your show today?
I was like, Well, if I wasn't doing my show today,
what would I be doing? I would, I guess be watching.
(02:28):
I guess I'm supposed to watch more and more tape.
So what I'm supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You can't do enough work, Doug.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
As you told us work.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
And actually when we were talking with Tim from asking
about Joes earlier, he said the same thing. Hayes in
the barn, right, what are you? What else are you
gonna do? Shoot Around's over?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
There's no like magic plays like oh wait, wait, wait wait,
I got an idea. Okay, everything we did, we're gonna
do the opposite. Like it's not how it actually works.
So I'm not diminishing the value of taking some time
to yourself. I have because the games data clock gets
a little bit better. Yeah, I have a couple hours
to kind of catch my breath. Here we get done,
just so people understand our schedule as a team. Three
(03:07):
point thirty we have pregame meal and then four to
fifteen will go over quick little scout. Then they've got
a couple hours to themselves. That's when I have to
take the time to myself and then we'll I guess
we're busting the Gala grad. But now, also this is
kind of a weird thing which has sort of helped
us in our favor, is there were torrential rains this
morning in thunderstorms. So this is one of those kind
(03:28):
of meant to be things. So my son, Hayes is
he goes to high school about forty minutes from here
in Edmund, and we practiced there last night. It was cool,
and you know, part of the back and forth was
do you miss school today? Because all it was like
shoot around pregame and again like he's just hanging out
the hotel. But this morning is school is canceled. So
(03:49):
I think supposedly there's supposed to be another band of thunderstorms.
Have you guys heard this? Yes, I don't know what
this band is called or who their lead singer is,
but apparently this is a hardcore band of thunders. That's
my dad joking.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's good, especially when it deals with devastation. But go ahead,
that's very good.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But I must say the on the weather tip.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I don't want to become a weather radio here, but yeah,
when I go to a new city or a state
that I've never been in, which is the case with Oklahoma,
I always want to experience, like what the state experience.
When I go to Seattle, I wanted to rain. When
I went to London, I wanted it to be foggy.
So I get to Oklahoma and we're down in Stillwater
(04:34):
on Saturday night. I'm seeing on Twitter that there are
tornadoes as close as Oklahoma City.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
So I get story.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Leased, you gave me the experience of the state.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Now are you Are you familiar with you? Did you
did local sports?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes? I did the whole shebang.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, so uh. A dear friend of mine's guy named
Mark Rogers. Mark was my original radio partner in Oklahoma City.
He's coming to the game tonight, and he talks about
how all the sports guys say that when the weather
guys get their days like this, they get the weather woody, right,
they get really excited because they just take.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Over the newsnight.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh yeah, they take over the news like nothing else matters,
Like there's an election tomorrow, right, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I can I tell you what my like Baptism of
Oklahoma weather sure was, Yeah, so we did this. Remember
we did this on Thursday or Friday. Favorite time of
the day, told you ten am. Price is right starts.
That's my favorite time of the day watching prices.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
They play two games and then tornado warning break in graphics.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
The whole deal. They had weather spotters out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The weather sponsors were sponsored by a roofing company.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Sure like, like think about it, like, let's work together.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Let's go out to Ken and Carroll, who are over
in Boone County, over northwest Boon, and what does it
look like? And then they have the picture of the
two people in the car and then it says, you know,
Jones Roofing, like it's sponsored. It's amazing in a tornado warning.
Actually the weather looks.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Perfect at it's there's gonna be more bands come through Tulsa.
But everything is relatively storm up lous east of us.
So I think we're good. But the cool thing is
so harper. And my daughter, I think normally, you know,
she has like workouts at like six in the morning,
and you know, the games that ate at night. Normally
(06:23):
she'd be just worn out by the entire day. And
so even though I mean I want her to come
to the game and experience the game and all that
other stuff. I would understand if she didn't have the
normal level energy. They canceled school today. Wow, so the
campus is kind of wet and soggy. But there's just
a fear of a second band. But looks like the
band is not coming through here now. Maybe something else
(06:45):
will pop up I'm not really familiar with. But looks
pretty good. Looks pretty good anyway. Welcome to Oklahoma, where
I told Jason because I think I texted this. We
haven't talked about this on air to those of you
who have listened to us since Jason joined the show
a couple of years ago. He hates the I guess
(07:08):
November fourth? Is it November already? I can't believe it's
November already.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
It's like low hanging fruit for small talk.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Right, did he get on the elevator with a with
a stranger?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, it's easy to go. Can you believe it's already November?
So it's always an good icebreaker.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Low hanging fruit in Oklahoma's well? Need the rain? Right?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Made the rain?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
We could use it?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, we could use it. Me the rain has anybody
ever said like, nah, we're good. You know, made the
rain they need.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I would say, now, they don't need it. Did need
the rain.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
There were actually brush fires. I guess last week it
was pretty dry. But again, there's never been a time
and I've I've I've been a part of Oklahoma culture, right.
I lived here for on and off for like seven
or eight years, and I've always been back. There's never
been a time where it's ever rained in the Sooner
State and anyone's ever said, well, we don't need that rain.
(08:02):
You know. I'm sure in Iowa where they have that flooding.
They often have flooding, you know, in Iowa in the
summer sometimes, you know, like they're probably like, we're good,
but yeah, I've never noticed a storm come through. They
don't need the tornadoes, they don't need the wind shear.
I got another one for you. So I have a buddy.
His name is Jay McCarty. Shout out to you, Jay.
He's coming up to the game tonight as well. And
(08:25):
Jay and I used to live right down the street
from each other, and during severe weather he'd come. I
had a basement and he didn't come in the basement,
and we watched the weather challs and we had drinking
games based upon the terms. Right, there's like wind sheer lowering.
Hook echo is a bad thing when you're a hook echo.
You know that means a tornado. I heard a lot
of hook yeah this morning I did yeah, hook echo.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
There's that hook there it is.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You watch these I don't know how they do it.
They look at these radars and they see this little
kind of hook and they're like, that's a tornado.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's a nator.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I guess here's usually I do this thing. But
I'll just you, guys, what are you interested in terms
of this day? For me, for my team, this experience.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I mean, I don't think we can make a big
enough deal out of this that a Division one head
coach is about to play his alma mater in college
basketball and he is a full time radio host as well.
This is a true unique situation. I don't think we
could put enough attention on that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
So I don't want to ever lose sight of that
that you do this for a living, and you do
that for a living, and we've all come to the
place where you're going to play your alma mater. I
think that's just a really cool deal, a true one off.
No one will ever do it again. Yes, and I
want to keep stating that.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I had some friends who my son. That was
part of my argument with his mom. What wasn't really
an argument, which is like, it's one night show, right,
It's like a one like I would love if they
want to play us every year. Cool, we'll do it
every year if they want it. Is you're like, hey,
we're gonna go play somebody else, right, So yeah, it's
like it's a one night show. It's a grand opening,
(10:07):
green closing, and well we'll see. So I'm excited for
my kids. I just I the idea. The idea my
mind is I wanted something that Obviously Oklahoma State's at
a higher level than us, you know, it's a it's
a different level of the sport what they have, and
they're much older. They have four graduate seniors. I have two,
(10:30):
but only ones a scholarship player, and all of their
players that played high major basketball. I have thirteen guys
of my eight team, we have fifteen here that haven't
played a college basketball game ever. So there's going to
be a stiff learning curve tonight. But I wanted to
show them like one, what it's all about. Two Like
(10:52):
this is where I'm from, this is me, this is
what I represent and what's important and sacred to me,
and I all think, and this is really cool. We
didn't go to the final four. People all oftentime like
we played big countries, Like, no, I didn't play a
big country as ninety five. Oh you played No.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Four.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's like, now that's John Lucas.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We only went to the lead eight.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We lost to Florida and it wasn't like we lost
in the last second shot. They beat our ass. But
the point is that my team, my group is widely
seen as maybe the most beloved over the last twenty
five thirty years. And I mean, I have some idea
as to why. But the biggest reason why was like
(11:33):
we were really really connected as teammates but also as people.
And then we all had because we were connected and
because we felt comfortable in being ourselves. We were ourselves
and we had like really big personalities out of it.
And I think that part is cool. I want them
to do that too. I want them to do that
at Green Bay to where they just like like again.
(11:54):
We didn't win as championship. We didn't get to the
final four, we didn't win the Big Twelve or the
Big Twelve tournament, got the championship game, didn't win, could
have won the Big twelve, last home game of my career,
didn't do it. Yet we still I still feel an
incredible amount of love from fans and friends like we
did something super special. We did even if the end
(12:15):
game wasn't final for national Championship, Big Tell Championship, Big
Tal Term Championship. That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I'm curious about the ovation tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Oh, it'll be standing, so i'd be standing.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Wait, hold on, wait a second, wait to make a
nice moment.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I wanted the air and the coach of the Green
Bay Phoenix. Do No, it'll be so.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Larry Reese is the play by play guy, and Larry
is first he's a man. Second, he's great player play guy.
I mean that the Papa announcer, p announcer, and he'll
I would guess what do you think, tim, He'll say
he'll say something that welcome home Cowboy. It'd be like
welcome home Cowboy, or and then he'll say something before that.
(13:01):
When I get choose, say the head coach the Green
Bay Phoenix, and I'll say something I don't know what
it is, and then we'll yeah, and then I'll say
welcome home, cowboy. And he's got one of those he's
like when I got working with my voice. He's got
kind of like naturally and it's it sounds really good.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So I'm curious to hear that. That's what I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Now, have you guys been in gallaghery yet?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You didn't go to shoot a run.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Nope, I want to experience.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I was kind of doing my thing.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
And I had and and by the way, I just
told you a story ten minutes ago. I was watching
The Price is Right at ten o'clock and then the
weather that's in. So that was during shoot around. So
there's no way I was going to make shoot around
and miss the Price Right.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I forgot how important the Price is Right is in
the world.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I want to experience the gym or the arena at
the same gym.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, it was better when it was a gym. Yeah,
well that's that. Tim just said, you're no olo. I'm
supposed tornado coverage, right, You got to know the terms
lowering power flash you know power flashes. No, that's when
that's when the wind blows up like a transformer. And
that's how you know sometimes if there's a tornado coming,
if you can't see it, if you see power flash.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Listen to Power Flash the group in the eighties, the
Power Group in the eighties with the Deuran Durango brothers
and the Robert.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Palmer is a power station.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Power station, that's right, that was deep in your bag
for that one.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Robert Plant. Robert Palmer's great. Robert Plant's great too, but
Robert Palmer's.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Can we tell the story? Can we tell the story
of good Taste Sam of Jason Stewart last night?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Let's do it?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Are you okay with it?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Let's do it?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So did I get some context though?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And then you could then you could tell the story.
But the context.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I'll give you context in one second. So just for
people who are listening to the pod, understand forty sets
the context of it.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yesterday my team landed at four point thirty ish. Then
we had a practice at Edmon Memorial High School my
son goes, and then we had planned on having dinner
at the Holiday's house. That's Matt Holliday and Leslie Holliday
and their family, and they're wonderful, wonderful people. So anyway,
(15:12):
I brought my whole crew, so we have twenty five
in our travel party. Then there were a couple of
other kind of stragglers and Matt his family and some
of his friends. My daughter was there, her friends Lapio.
Probably about fifty people. And okay, so then you give
the context to your story.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
All right.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
So remember several weeks ago when Tyreek Hill got pulled
over for speeding and he acted, I could jerk, and
the cop got a little too rough with him. So anyways,
it caused this big culture war conversation the day after,
and I remember you going on the year and saying
that my assistant coach who played in the NBA, Thomas,
(15:51):
just sent me this note.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
And then you read the note on the air.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Okay, And I remember in that moment thinking, wait a minute,
Eton Thomas as an assistant with Doug. That's really cool.
I know Syracuse basketball. I go back thirty years with
Syracuse basketball. Eton Thomas is on Doug's staff, and I
just put it in my mind as fact. So then
we get to last night, There's literally a greeting line
(16:16):
of people. I'm greeting all your players, thanks for coming,
good to see you, good luck tomorrow. And then Tyrus
Thomas is at the end of the line and he says, Hey,
what's up, man, I'm Tyris. And the first thing I
thought was I shook his hand and said, I'm a
huge Syracuse fan. So you explain to the listeners what
(16:38):
the flaw is in that story, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Tyris Thomas is from Baton Rouge, Louisiana and played at LSU. Yeah,
where they went to the Final four, and then he
was the fourth pick in the NBA Draft, playing for
the Chicago Bulls and then later the Charlotte Hornets. I think,
I don't know if it's Bob Cats or Hornets Eton.
Thomas ironically is actually from the state of Oklahoma. He's
from Booker T. Wathington High School there you go, and
went to Syracuse and is also, I mean, he is
(17:03):
very politically active, right.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Hey Stan, how are you you to come on?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Come on, come sit down? So anyway, uh, it was.
It was a very funny moment. So then I told
Tyris today, Tyris is like I explained him. He's like, oh,
I had no idea what he was talking about.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm so sorry. I didn't get a chance to apologize.
It was just really awkward. Anyways, a huge flub on
my part. I mixed with Thomas's.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So join us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Is
no other than Stan Clark. Stan is the owner operator
of several different restaurants here in Stillwater, but most notably
Eskimo Joe's. Okay, we got a bunch to get to,
a bunch to dig into here. But I do want
to ask, what was it ever? Or is it still
an actual true statistic that the Eskimo Joe's T shirt
(17:54):
is the second most selling T shirt in the US.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Now, what'd you say? You want to say that again?
I'm just kidding, you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Know, I can't substantiate that, Doug, Okay, but one of
those like rumors that you plan in. You're like, who
said that? Like, I don't know, Like everybody says it
must be true.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
It sounds so good coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Now.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
The truth is on November the twenty eighth to nineteen
eighty eight, not that I remember, the Tulsa World published
that we were one of the second most pardon me,
they published the third most collectible T shirt in the country,
behind Hard Rock London and Hard Rock New York.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
So of course Oklahoma's immediately.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Lumped hard Rock and before you knew it, we're the
second most soul t shirt.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Love it in the world.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
And so it was almost a self fulfilling prophecy because
that year, from November twenty eight till the twelve, twenty
four of eighty eight, our sales just went through the
roof because all of a sudden we were ranked. You know,
we're rated, and you know how big that is sports
or whatever. So it was really, uh well, it was
(18:59):
really good for business. And it's interesting, what was that
eighty eight just thirty six years ago? Or some people
still repeated I promised you could sit in Joe's clothes today,
and some guests would be telling another guest that you
know that that's the case.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So what's it like to create something and you become
synonymous with a town with a place on her I
mean it just because I you know, I've I've I've
seen a lot of places, I've done a lot of things. Yeah,
and when you go like, but where's where's still Where's
Oklhoma State? Like still are Like you mean that Eskimo
Joe's place? Like what does that ask do? Like literally
(19:33):
you're synonymous with something.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, it's certainly been a huge blessing, and we've obviously
been right in the shadows of Oklahoma State for it'd
be fifty.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Years next July.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
So it's it's just been an absolute blast. And uh,
of course wouldn't have ever come here in the first place,
Tulsa native. So I came over here to go to
school and never left. Opened Joe's two months after I
graduated from oaklham State, which was a ton of fun college.
Actually a kid I met on the first day of
school in the fifth.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Grade named Steve File.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
We grew up together, went all through high school and
then four years at Oaklhoma State together.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
And so I'm laying on the couch at.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
His place Sunday, two weeks after graduation, and anyway, Steve
walks in. He goes Hey, Clark coming open a bar, said, man,
all these bars, rent are doing great. Hey, I know
where there's this neat little two story building for I'm
going partners with you.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
So that's the inception of Joe's.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Ten minutes later, we took hands with the guy who
owned the building, and that's how we started this crazy thing.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
You read it first, Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Thank god he was here. If he had been here
that day, we probably never would have come back.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
What was the right.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
It's funny you ask, so it was.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
He said in the boys, if you want to just
like you see it, I need three hundred and fifty
a month. If you will be putting air conditioner in it,
I'm going to need four hundred. We said, yes, sir,
we'll need an air tod in Oklahoma.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, take it, We'll take it.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
When did it hit, Well, you know what, I felt
like it hit the first night because I could just
tell people really liked the joint. I love to tell
a story. We hired our first team member out of
the first night's crowd, and what I'm most proud of
about that is that she worked for us for over
two years. I just think it it's just an indication
(21:17):
that we actually got how important people were and how
important in our relationship was going to be with each
and every guest we had the honor of serving, and so.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
We did that.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
And we started building the brand really from the very first.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Night, because we made people feel welcome and special and
showed him a good time.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And then how the T shirt thing take off?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Thank you Tim All.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
So the T shirt deal another just fluke thing.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
We did all the remodeling work ourselves because we couldn't
afford to hire anybody. And so while we were pounding away,
some guys knocked on the front door for ever open.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
They'd started a screenprinning business the same summer.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
They said, hey, why don't you guys print that neat
logo on the front of some T shirts. We thought, well,
we've been thinking about coasters and beer glasses and stuff.
We said, yeah, we might give that a shot. Anyway,
we ordered seventy two T shirts. I thought it'd take
us a year of this.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Why would you order seventy two? That's just such a d.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Six dozen kind of sell them a dozens. We did
three dozen gold ones and three dozen like blue ones,
printed them all in one color, and son of a gun,
we sold every one of those.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
The first week we were open.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
So it was just foreshadowing of good things to come.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
And you know, we we weren't smart enough to manage
that part of it very effectively. You know, we'd sell
completely out and take me a month to get some
back in. But I do remember fast forward about ten years.
I remember telling my bank or we were doing a
business review, like a young a young businessman, especially guy
into our business has to do frequently because they had
figured you're going to fold up tomorrow, you know, or sure,
(22:52):
drink it all up, or you know, do something. So anyway,
but I just remember I took our income statement and
his name was Stan, Stan White, Rest his soul anyway,
I said, Stan, I think this line right here is
going to really start to mean something. That month, we'd
sold ten thousand dollars worth Eskimo Joe's T shirts over
the bar, this long before Eskimo Joe's closed.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What year about? Pardon me, what year is this about?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I wish I could tell you. I'm a little fuzzy
on that.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Okay, By the time we opened Joe's Clothes in nineteen
eighty seven, we were doing a lot more than that.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
But I just remember, I mean that was that was money.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Man.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
That's quite a few T shirts.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
No, it's a lot of Right over the bar, we
had a little closet right behind the bar, and most
of them were stashed in an apartment across the parking lot.
So I still have heel spurs of this day from
a guest wanting a shirt. I ran out the back door,
unlocked the apartment over there, ran all the way down
there in the hall, unlocked that door, grabbed the right
T shirt lock lock back across the parking lot, and
(23:54):
that's how we sold T shirts.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
And but you know, again, it was a tiny place, as.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You and then and then for people that also don't know,
the cups are actually probably more synonymous, like if you
go anyone who's been here, like, hey, give me a
Joe's cup, okay, And now they have the ones where
they where they're like he'd activated as well, right when
you pour it in and then it turns a different color.
When do the cup idea come out?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Well, you know that that came actually from a beer distributor,
and he came across these things. I don't even know
exactly where he saw him, to be honest, but he said, Clark,
you got to look at this. This is the coolest cup.
And so anyway he had seen this week, say twenty
two ounce fluted cup.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
And we've said that forever.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
But actually, if you fill this to the brim, it's
twenty four ounces. We've miss stated that it's twenty two
ounce cup for so long there's no reason to try to.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Change that in anybody's mind. But anyway, how.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Much do you spend in cups a year? Because like,
if you go my house in Green Bay, Wisconsin, I
have one hundred of them. I have a bar in
my basement. It's stacked with Joe's cups. Every every time
I've ever come back and visited for years. You know,
people grab Joe's cups and by the way, like you
give the if you drink them, you give them away, right,
So maybe it cuts down to your trash waste or
(25:11):
or how much you do in terms of cause you
have a kind of standard old school kind of plastic
cups as well. Right, how much you spend on cups
a year?
Speaker 8 (25:18):
Oh, I I don't know this, but I don't even
know the number on how much we spend.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
But we get them in in the.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Semi trailer truck loads at a time. They're actually made
in Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Kansas, which is interesting and no idea.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
But and our friends at many Keith Foods, they back
haul them for us from Lawrence, Kansas to hear because
many keith out of Oklahoma City actually services all the
way to Kansas City every single day, so they bring
them down for us. We actually built a building from
the ground up to store Joe's cupsy, So.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
They're a big deal.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
They're a big They are a big deal, hundreds of
thousands a year.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
And uh, you know, just who.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Would have thunk the other thing is? And the guys
noticed this. It wasn't like this when I went to
school here. So I finished twenty four years ago, right,
and part of it is four years You're just a pup,
I understand. But they went to the game. They went
to the game on Saturday, and there wasn't a soul
(26:18):
at that game that unless you were an Arizona State
fan that didn't have something osure yeah right, not just
wearing you know, orange and black. And I remember when
Terry Don Phillips was the athletic director. I think it
was his wife that came up with the idea of
real fans wear orange. And that's when people started to
wear orange to all the games, right, And then they
(26:40):
kind of changed the tinge of orange and made America's
brightest orange whatever. But it feels like the last ten years,
like it has just taken off in terms of the
association with the school and the orange, and literally everyone
wears something. Is that about the timeline?
Speaker 6 (26:59):
I think you're pretty close, you know. I know.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
I remember when we beat Notre Dame in that in
that Bowl game, Gundy comes back.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
And says, well, you know, we're brand.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Remember that.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
That's kind of infamous. Ed I just thought that was cool.
But you're you're so right. Yeah, people take tremendous pride
here and again our I love the slogan loyal and true.
And you know, even when we aren't at our finest,
I do think most of our fans do remain loyal
and true. And I can assure you I have and
(27:31):
I always will. But man, when you were playing here,
that was our heyday. That was so much fun. I
remember when coach Sutton first got hired. My brother in
law called me that very day. He says, Clark keiviny
deaf season tickets. I said, no, job, never had him.
He said, well, you better get some, because you just
hired the best coach in the country. And sure enough,
(27:53):
boy was he ever right? And I did get him
and I've had.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Him ever since.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know, my uh our kind of seminole moment my
senior year, guys, was we played Kansas and what and
coach never beat Kansas at Kansas ever. So now there
was about a fifteen year stretch where you played because
the Big twelve you played every other year. So there
are plenty of his best teams that didn't play up there.
But regardless of my junior year, we lost on a
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controversial call in overtime, and so my senior year, like
we were waiting for him and we beat him by
thirty three and it was the worst loss Roy Williams
had ever had.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
But my memories of everything else are far more vivid.
So they were redoing the arena at the time. They
built a shell over the top of the arena and
they doubled its size, and because of it, parking was
extremely limited, and we shoved all of our cars next
to there's a brand new church there now, but there
used to be a church. Everyone's car got towed, like
on the team, the total car. And of course what
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you'd do is you'd come, you'd walk to chose or
in that case we'd drive to Joe's and then we'd
watch the game again, right, or watch for yourself on
sports Center, and you guys left it open. It was
like a late night, like eight o'clock games. So you
get done at ten, then we're like, holy, holy shit,
our car got our cars got towed. So we walked
down here like eleven fifteen, and there's a bunch of
(29:16):
people here and by about like you know, we watch
ourselves on sports Center, which is on it at midnight,
right because it's the old East Coast one AM sports Center.
Then it gets done and then they like maybe you
flip back to ESPNU that all of a sudden the
game was on. This is before ESPNU anyway, So that
that's one memory, and then another one was is actually
(29:38):
going back my sophomore year. We lost to Duke in
the NCAA tournament and we were picked dead last in
the Big twelve and we end up winning the South
and so we played Duke and we should have won
the game. We didn't execute down the stretch. They beat us.
Two days later was Saint Patrick's Day. So Saint Patrick's
Day of Joe's is what green egg hit Green Eggs
and beer, right, green Eggs and beer. Oh yeah, and
(30:01):
I lived, and I was I was telling somebody earlier
I lived, there's a brand new apartment right down here
off Elm across the street. So I literally got up
walked down here, and it is like ten in the morning,
and we're drinking beers. And because we had almost beaten Duke,
it was like we were knighted. I'd like one to
grab somebody, but like get like buying us shots. We're
like five shots and we're like, you know, we lost,
(30:22):
right Like art just was the my beers for people
who win games, but this is always this is like
the celebratory place. And yeah, so there's a lot of
just great memories and they all do wrap around Joe.
So it's it's really really special.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
It's wonderful to how old your twins now to see
you and and Doug actually did come here.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I can vouch for that.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
How old your twins now.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Twins are twenty Maguire's twenty two.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
And so kids are all doing great, all still right
here in still Water, which of course Shane and I
are thrilled about.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
And uh so everything's good.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I have twins and one is is it a Questrian
for Oklahoma State? Awesome and the other one is she's
gonna en roll here in the in the winter quarter.
So she started. So I got I got two and
I love uh and and I actually had to talk
my son into wearing green tonight because he's like, Dad,
(31:18):
I'm I'm an Oklahoma State guy, right. I was like, dude,
your dad coaches the other team. I was like, where
do you get Where are you getting tickets?
Speaker 8 (31:26):
Otherwise I just had to say, you know, I love
the green and it would be perfect for Saint Patrick's Day,
but didn't work out there.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Way it didn't work out. I will see you on
Saint Patrick's Day. I'll wear the green. Otherwise, I'll always
come back in orange tonight. It's the only night that
I won't be cheering for the guys that will use it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
I can't thank you enough for being here. I wish
you all the very best. Brother, It's good to you
the best.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Stan Clark, the owner proprietor here of all the Joe's
Family of restaurants, Thank you, Sammy. So so what else? What?
Speaker 8 (31:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
What are the other questions that you have? Anything else?
We had game planning questions. I mean, I don't think
anybody's going to listen to this, by the way, and
be because by the time somebody listens to this, pot
the game's probably gonna be going lets unless we get like,
we're not gonna get postponed because there's no weather.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
How about this, but give the listeners the reason why
you won tonight?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, I did I win just coaching the team.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, I'm saying your team and points wins the game.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Why how can we win the game night? So here's
how Oklahoma State plays. Right, this team, they play exceptionally,
exceptionally fast. They pushed the ball in transition with reckless
abandon They were top twenty five last year in pace
of play, which is good. We want to play fast.
We want to score. We played a scrimmage, we scored
(32:46):
one hundred and three. We pored subishing game, we scored
one hundred and two. So we want to play fast,
but we want to slow them down some. So there's
a couple of ways to slow them down. The first
is to score, because when you score, you can set
up what's called containment press. Everybody thinks that when you press,
(33:08):
you press to speed somebody up or to trap them.
We're pressing to the slow you down and just take
some time off the clock and make you set up
your offense. So in order to win this game, we
have to slow them down some. We have to rebound
the basketball, and then I think most importantly, I have
to not turn them ball over because they play incredibly
(33:28):
hard and incredibly physical, and in games like this, the
basketball expression is they don't give you a check. We
get a check for tonight's game, and then give you
a call. You don't get both. You can get one
or the other. You want to call good, no check,
you want to check. No calls. So for my guys,
they have to understand that the physicality they're going to
(33:50):
play against is really hard to replicate with our personnel.
Their guys are stronger, are older, are bigger, and we
have to fight through that. So to win to night's game,
we got to play through that physicality without turn the
ball over. We really have to execute what we want
to do offensively. It doesn't mean what happens when you
tell people have to execute, They think that means you
have to be slow and precise, like they don't you
(34:12):
do it quickly, but just execute. Make reads not turn
the ball over, because when you do, they race them
back up the court. And then we got to slow
them down, and we gotta we got to defend the
second shot. I generally fall on the side of playing
small rather than big. They play big rather than small.
So I do think we can spread them out and
(34:33):
we'll shoot a lot of threes. We also want to
shoot layup twos, and then we want to make them
shoot contested threes. They shot the ball very well in
their in their scrimmage. That was. That was I think
everybody had got the stats from. I don't know about
the other one against which tall stat I think it was.
I have no idea the numbers there. I think they're
(34:54):
an okay shooting team, but I think they're an outstanding
transition team and rebounding team. So we'll have to do that.
We are at the time of this recording. What's what's
the line?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I don't know what the line is, but I do
know that you've given us a line that only a
coach would say.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Can't turn the ball over tonight, can't do it, can't
do it. We're gonna win.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Can the team when the other team pressed Doug, I
get it, I get it. I'm just saying there's you
know now, it's this is where the coach creeps in.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But it's it's a real thing.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
We got to limit our mistakes and we can't turn
the ball over it. That's how we're gonna win this game,
sans coach.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
So they play up the line defensively. Okay, I understand.
I'm just trying to explain to people that they're listening.
So they play up the line. They pressure pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure,
so especially you can never turn the ball over to
your point. It is classic coach speak, but especially tonight.
And you gotta not be scared and not be scared.
And as much as you go like, well they're college
(35:48):
basketball players, like when you haven't played college basketball for
I have a kid named Ben Tweeties from Australia and
he's the best. He's eighteen years old. He played professional
ball this this summer for his dad and they're like,
he ain't never seen anything like this. So because generally
the way they pressure would be called a foul, like
(36:09):
when you're playing pickup ball or in Australia, like, it's
not a foul in college basketball. Sure you got to
play through it, so can't turn it over and give
up what's called pick sixes. You know you throw it
and they go down, they dun'k it. And because that place,
you'll you'll notice it is specifically designed to be loud.
So if there's I don't know if there's three thousand
and four thousand, five thousand people tonight, but when they
(36:31):
get it going, it sounds like twenty, it really does.
And if there's thirteen thousand, it sounds like fifty. So
I'd love to have thirteen thousand a night. The thunder
plate tonight. The weather's been bad, so I don't know
what it actually looks like. But yeah, I mean those
are the basic keys to it.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I'm excited. I really am.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
We've even been keeping our eye on some Vegas numbers.
So seventeen and a half, you're an underdog tonight, Well
it was just twenty twenty and the over under has
jumped over the last two days.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
But you don't care about that.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I don't. I liked that the number was twenty like
look last year like last year.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, yeah, came was twenty point dogs.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Well yeah, well that's Coach Hutton used to do that.
Coach Hutt would use the line against you. He would go,
you guys are seven point dogs, even Vegas thinks you think,
and then and then if your favorites, you're like, you
guys are four point favorites. What Vegas a bunchie? They
ain't senior practice, they don't know anything, but literally, Vegas,
(37:35):
it's a complete shot in the dark at my team,
right like we scrimmaged. We scrimmaged Notre of Illinois, noe
that no one has the tape, no one knows exists.
No stats were shared. And then we had next Vision
game against Saint Norbert where maybe they got the maybe
they got the score. Sure, but and Saint Org's a
really good team, their Division three team. So it's like
(37:57):
there's no real sense for who we are what we are.
I don't even know, you know, because everybody looks different
when the lights are on, the popcorns popping. Yeah, So
I don't know. I am fired up. It's gonna be
really cool. I mean, honestly, the uh, there's some special
people coming tonight. Zane Fleming's coming to night. Zane's the
dad of Nate Fleming. Nate was one of my teammates
(38:18):
who died in the plane crash. Means the world to
me that he's gonna be there, my my own kids
are gonna be there as well. So, like Jason started
by saying, like, this is a great one night show. Yeah,
this is my bar mitzvah, only my mom and dad.
I didn't have to study my off to hour portion
and my parents didn't have to pay for the for
the for the bartments.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Well truly, like if you were, if you were facing
Utah another big twelve A point, we wouldn't be in
like Salt Lake City.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah that's my point. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
So and next year we're gonna play Kansas, which will
be also be cool that one you got to come to.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah, that'd be great. So I've got my green hat
in the car ready to go. Well, I have church
for you guys and everything. Okay, so we'll be fired
up and ready to go. And I was sam'scuish too,
just I just knew just shirt put him at ease.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I think your shirt.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I think your shirt.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Thanks, guys.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Well that's gonna do it for the end the Bonus Podcast.
Unless you have something that's annoying you, Is there anybody
annoying you that you want to get to?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I know, we'll say that we actually had a submission.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Really, Tyrus Thomas says, It's annoying when people think I'm
like to Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It's hold on. Do you guys know what today is.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Other than November fourth?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Why is your I can't hear your mic? Can everybody else?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Here's mine?
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Other than November four?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yes, November four? Do you guys know what today is?
I'm gonna make I'm gonna make your day. You ready,
Today's the last day of political ads.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Oh there you go, right.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Which every which, by the way, is the worst day
for TV ads salespeople because they're like, oh my god,
now I actually got to go out and work, sure,
and and sell some ads. But is the best day
for TV viewers because, as it stands now, every one
of these people running for office are the worst human
beings on earth. It's on these ads. He hates cats,
she hates dogs. They all you know, this guy's.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
On our side. Yeah, yeah, not their side. He's on
our side. That's why he's my guy.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
That's it for the in the Motus podcast, check out
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