November 5, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug describes his first night as a division I head coach as his Green Bay Phoenix played his alma mater Oklahoma State Cowboys in Stillwater, OK. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst John Middlekauff onto the show to talk about the key trades at the NFL trade deadline, to also talk about the Cowboys, Chargers and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's the way that tire buying should be. Hey, welcome in.
We're likely going to talk about a story that nationally
does not resonate nearly as much as the trade deadline
or yeah, there's some other stuff, but this is actually
a good day to talk about sports, because if you
want to talk about the election, I want to hear
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about the election. Obviously it's everywhere else. So this is
a good way to just catch your bread and set
aside time to catch up on sports and figure out
all the trade deadline deals and why they were done.
By the way, if you just stay here we'll talk
about all of that stuff. Dan Byer Jase too. They
made the trek back to LA from the Sooner State
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from the Red Dirt last night. Appreciate you guys setting
all that up and hanging out in the game. We'll
talk about that in a moment. But yeah, we did it.
We lost my first game as a college coach and
hosted the radio show before, hosted the radio show today,
and yeah, I mean, I appreciate so many sentiments on
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my kind of emotional outburst yesterday during the opening of
the show, but I did continue to feel the gratefulness
in the experience. But like, look to those of you
who care. I'll talk in a second about what it
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was actually like. But I can also tell you that
I take pride and I thought we were prepared. I
thought we were ready. I think I need to do
a better job and in terms of in game adjustments
into what's going on and how it's going on, and
be willing to I am usually willing to somebody who's
willing to throw the kitchen sink at different things. And
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there was a kitchen sink element that I didn't necessarily
go to, but I should have taken a look at
some different stuff, regardless of which the night was mostly
a win, although I do want to start out okay,
So for people don't know coach, my first game at
Green Bay last night against my old montern Oklahoma State.
Dan Bayer Jay stew were there. I apologize to you
guys because you came all that way and I looked
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behind my bench for an hour and I didn't see you.
And I'm only disappointed in one thing, and it's not
in the OSU basketball program. I don't believe it's in
my program, although I do think our guys should have
followed up. But you know, Dan and jay Stu were
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supposed to be right behind my bench, so were my children,
and they weren't. And I think it was some last
second ads to the ticket list that ultimately ended up
not making lists. And again like it's little things end
up being big things and the things that we learn
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along the way. You know, you ever watch all these
Instagram reelshere people talking about, well, you're not losing your learning.
I really did learn a lot. Now technically we lost
the game, but I did. I learned a ton and
their mistakes that I made that I won't make again.
And one of the mistakes I think I make made
even yesterday was with the tickets, where I have some
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close friends who I said, hey, I need to know
if you need the tickets before, you know, uh, eight
o'clock at night the night before the game. They got
back to me at like three in the afternoon and
I asked to face for some more tickets. But I
was very specific about where I wanted those seats, and
it seemed to screw everything up. So sometimes you got
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to say no right. Sometimes you got to say, hey,
the train left the station. Are we do you guys
really want to play me? Talking about me last night?
How we want to do?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I think we should? Well there's can I say one
thing about the seats?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Once I saw Harper by us, I was like, okay,
well there must have been something right, Yeah, that's a
Hayes because Hayes was on the bench with you last night.
He was at Gold nine by the way, you know,
we and we met up with you on Saturday and
Hayes hung out with us, and uh, Hayes at halftime
was jacked. I'm giving them fist pumps. I'm giving them
high fives because it's a one point game at that time.
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It was great. It was. It was a lot of fun.
It was really it was. We had a blast. Whether
we were in section you know, two to eleven, or
if we were in row one right on the floor.
He was still a great time last night.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, I get it. I just it's infuriating me. You know,
I didn't. I didn't ask for much. I didn't. You know,
you get we get one hundred tickets, We get thirty
down low and seventy up top. And I put fifteen
people down low, and these people are not to be moved.
Do whatever you want with the other ones. And I
think I had some players parents up top too, and
they were all supposed to be down low as well.
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They literally did the exact opposite of what we asked
them to do.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They did Costanza.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, yes, yes, Amy, Doug.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I know there were a lot of a lot of
moving parts for you yesterday. So I think if this
was the one thing you were disappointed in, like the
day was overwhelmingly as success, including yours, I.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Say, I understand, you're I'm actually I'm an event for
a second. It really pisses me off.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I know, I can tell you know, I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Really upset like this. That's like I said, this is
a one night show. Like my my daughter Grace flew
back from LA and like Grace has never she's watched
two basketball games in her life. You know, like it's
only gonna happen once. And you know a guy who
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it's literally his job, he's got one job, and we
made it very easy for him. It was all color coded,
it was already And I'll take accountability for trying to
please other people. And I had a couple of people,
like my nephew is in Dallas and he canceled, so
I thought there was an extra floor seat available, but
like all my family was supposed to be behind the
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bench and they're scattered, and even players' families, and I
did just it really upsets me. And it has nothing
to do with their program or anything else. It's one
guy and oh yeah, either got way. You can't get
ahold of the guy either, so it and it just
I'm mad for you guys, Jay stew And I know
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you guys had a good time, but it's a completely
different sport when you're down below the bench and hear
everything that's going on and really kind of feel it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I don't know what your largest lead was last night,
I think, yeah, okay, good because I took a screenshot
of the first half when you guys were up sixteen
to nine. Then it may have been seven at other points,
but I mean it was it was really good. I mean,
and I love college basketball as it is. It was
actually so unique for me because my hometown that I'm
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from doesn't produce Division one talent. We've had one kid
basically play two kids played D one in I don't know,
twenty some years, maybe even more than that. So to
have like a connection to someone, you know, I went
to a Big ten school and I knew some of
the guys on the you know, the Badger basketball team
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at the time, sam Oki and Mike Kossel, Sharon and
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Had great sam Ogi.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Okay, I knew those guys, but I wasn't like invested invested,
you know. And that's what was unique last night was
seeing you out there. Like we never even answered the
question were you going to wear a suit or wear
a half zip? And I was like, he's got to
wear a suit. So when I saw the assistance in
the half zip, I'm like, oh, they went half zip.
But then when you came out in the suit. I
thought it was amazing. So it was really neat for
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me to see someone that I, you know, knew and
worked with for the last seven and a half years
to be in that environment. And you know, I wish
you guys would have won. But the first the first
twenty minutes, in the first twenty five minutes of the
game of game time absolutely amazing. Kind of ran away
after that point, but I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I was most proud in the last seven minutes or
so sure we and that they kept fighting, because those
things can spiral, and I chose to not empty my bench.
I gave a couple of different guys some opportunities late,
one of whom I thought did a really good job.
Kind of impressed me. But I just you know, I'm
not I. Everything you do has to have purpose when
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you're lead eating young guys and they feel it. And
if you like, hey, we're just going to cycle through
our bench and play, guys like, no, that's not what
we're doing. We're trying to We were still trying to win.
We thought we had we had a shot. If we
get under ten, we get under seven, we can make
them sweat they have some questionable free throw shoot.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
They did have some questionable free throw shooting, by the
way last night. But Phoenix did what they needed to do,
except in my mind rebounding. Yeah, they're were we got you,
donk you okay?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah? I mean, and look, some of that's by design
because I played a smaller lineup and this is where
you learn things, right. I have a couple of big
guys that were available. Roo Selka, who's a freshman center.
He's twenty years old. He did a pretty good job
in the first half. He just, you know, I didn't
like how our offense looked in the first half when
I had the bigs out with him out there. And
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then defensively Isaah Morando, who had a great alley you
dunk of a you know when we put him in
then he hasn't been practicing much, so he just was
completely out of gas. And then Mustafa Sisa who's also
on my bench. He'd been sick all week and I
just thought he would get rag dolled. But I should
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have given him all a shot because we were just
getting bludgeoned on the boards, bludgeoned. And meanwhile, Marcus hall
Is he played thirty nine minutes and I should have
should have tried some different looks, but like, look, you
learn a lot and the experience was something that I
will never forget. And I wrote down a bunch of
notes in the middle of the night and things that
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I want to do better and things that I want
to clean up and things that can can change us
as a team. But most of all, yes, it was.
It was definitely a dub for the overall night, right,
I mean, that's that's fair. I mean, let me ask you, Jason, Okay,
I'm sure that in your heart of hearts there there's
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been moments in which you're like, is this it? Is
he going to be able to actually coach? You know
how I how we prep we there's literally no change
in what we do how we do So the was
that is that fair that you had to wonder? And Dan,
even you, you had to wonder, like, what's this actually
going to look like?
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I absolutely wondered. I have no idea the kind of
work you were putting in behind the scenes. Here. I
just deal with you professionally every day. We just deal
in sports content. I have no idea what kind of
team you had or what work you were putting in
and my takeaway from last night was that your guys
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came to play. I did not see. You know, I
have a pretty layman's view of basketball, but I that
looked like a well coached team that happened to not
be tall enough or athletic enough. You know, you just
didn't quite have the bodies. But you're right at the end,
you guys fought, and to give the listeners a little
bit of perspective, you can't care about this, but the
Vegas sports books had you at getting eighteen points and
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you covered, so you were better than Vegas thought you'd do.
That first half was just amazing. I want to play
I just want to play a highlight so that you
can kind of get a play by play of This
might have been the highest point of the of the
of the game. I think it was like one of
the Within the first five.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Minutes, Nick little up and under laid it up too strong.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Hall comes out with the rebound sue Nick had him beat,
just lay up a little too high off the glass.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Now Roy deep three. Anthony Royd buries it for about
five feet behind the arc at Green Bay out on
an eight nothing run, is out fourteen to seven. I
love that player and your guy, Marcus. What's in Marcus Hall?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Marcus Hall?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Oh, for he was so fun to watch. I think
he maybe just kind of ran out of gas.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, well that's me. That's on his coach. I played
him too much, you know. And b he had sixteen
the first half he had two baseline dunks? Can I
honestly like, this is how it works in college sports.
This is what's really sad. Okay, Marcus Hall's from Walsall,
Wisconsin's not that's thirty minutes away. He's nineteen years old.
I mean, he wants nothing from nobody. Before I got there,
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his nickname was the Waiter because he looks like he
could be a waiter at any nice restaurant, right, Just
a really nice kid. And we call him white Marcus
because when I told people about I told my coaches
before they met him about how I really like Marcus
Hall and I think we can do some special things
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with him. And then they met him, They're like, I
didn't know MICUs Hall was a white guy, like I
sounded like it was a black guy. And so because
of that, I call him white Marcus. Anyway, this is
this is sad, but it's the reality, which is he
had two baseline dunks in the first half at sixteen points,
had a couple of threes, a couple of dunks, he
had too many turnovers. He's a much better player than that.
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But we're walking to locker room going did you have
to dunk it twice on people? Because now some but
he's going to offer you some gigantic amount of money,
right and maybe in handshake lines, you know, it's like, oh,
hold on, that's actually how it works. Sad, but yes, Sammy, all.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Right, So what time yesterday did you wake up? I
got a big, big, whole collective question here. What what
time did your day start yesterday?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Uh, four thirty four to.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Thirty in the morning.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And what time did you go to bed the night before? No,
like last night after the game?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Late?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah it was. It probably started with the two.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
You had a long, long day and I saw pictures
of you. You were coaching your butt off, you were
sweating through your shirt, you were just giving it all.
And I just want to know. You said you were
up and awake writing stuff down. But I wonder how
well did you sleep, how hard it were? Did you
sleep like a rock? That's what I want to know, no, no,
you see that's interesting. Either you got some anxiety and
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keeping you up or you're gonna sleep really really hard.
But it sounds like Mark, you were too stimulated.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, it's just over stimulated.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, but we can we talk about the introductions. What
was one of the Dan's questions yesterday, how do you
think you'll be received? You know, that place was what
I don't know, at the very beginning of the game,
maybe a half full. If I'm a fun being generous,
you're being generous. But even the smaller crowd there was
a loud cheer. I forget the exact wording that the
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PA announcer used. I think Dan remembers, but I thought
it was that was a nice ovation. Yeah, I got
the I got the video on my phone. I made
sure to.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I tried to video record Doug from when he walked
on to the court, you know, the handshake and then
when they announced the starting lamps, because they did green
Bay's first, and then they announced Doug Gottlieb. They didn't
do like the alternating that you just did the green
Bay and former Cowboy Doug Gottlieb. But I've got that
video and I will send it a long Doug, and
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if I can have ten seconds as my mic off,
I can be able to listen and hear what they said.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Uh, okay, it was Larry. Larry Reese is the PA announcer,
So this was Here's my thoughts after after the game.
I want to thank Coach Lutz for playing this game.
I made no secret I play it because I.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Wanted this game for a myriad of reasons, but mostly
for those three people. You know, we moved them across
the country a bunch of times. They've been through a lot,
and I just I just wanted to have them sit
the dad coach with the bat. I haven't feel it
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because I want my kids to be proud of me
and proud of the the fabric of what we do
and the connectivity with our kids. And I'm I'm especially
part of my team, but it really it's for them.
But I'm so respectful of Coach Lots. They're just as advertised,
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you know, plays fast and they play hard.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And physical as hell. Yeah, they pushed us around a bit,
but it was it was great. My my three kids
were all there and uh, Grace, Harper and Hayes and yeah, Hayes, Hayes.
I I cannot tell you how many people uh interacted
with Hayes last night, and we're like, your son's awesome,
so it's all you can ever ask for. And then
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he was he was right, he's like dad, and halftimes
like dad, and listen, I know you like to play small,
but we're getting beat up inside. We got to play
big some and I was like, yeah, our offense is
bad when we're big. He's like, yeah, well, your defense
is bad when you're small. So it's just cool to
to share that with him.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
There was there was the PA, he said, the head
coach of the University of Green Bay Phoenix, former Oklahoma
State cowboy Doug got leave, and then there was a
noticeable rise in cheers. Doug, you gave a little you know,
thank you tap and uh yeah. I went on for
about five seconds, and then Oklahoma State's intro started.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah. I don't know. I like, you never know what
to do. It's so weird though, when you know all
the cheers and you know the Nona No, hay Son,
We're going to beat the hell out of you, right
like that's what they do right before tip off.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I thought you, being on the other bench would have
been weird.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I've been on the other bench once before, sort of.
I don't know if you guys knew this. My my
dad had an exhibition team and we played against coach
and uh that was but that was like two years
maybe after I played there. That was. That was cool,
But it wasn't you know, as an exhibition game. This
is a real one. Yeah it was. It was different,
But I'm like, I don't really know Coach LUTs. I
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don't really know, Like we're not it's not like we're
like enemies. I just were not. Like I know, I'm
close with people he's close with, but we're not close.
So there's and there's a couple of people on his bench,
Keaton Page and Scott Sutton obviously who I am. I
do consider it close. I'm close with obviously them being
for my Cowboys as well, so that part's a little different,
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but it's it's so far, so far from removed from
my crew who I played for, so and I also like,
again I understand it's also it was his debut as
an OSU coach, and so there's a you're not going
to take away from his shine. He earned that moment
more than I did. But it was a great night.
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I wish I would have been a little bit better.
I wish would have turned over a little bit less.
There's a bunch of different things I learned, and I
you know, I none of it is with the intent
of proving people wrong. You can't prove people wrong by
anything you say, but you can prove people wrong based
upon things that you do and how you play. And
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I would the turnovers would probably cause you to say,
maybe they weren't the most prepared team. But I do
think that if you if you watch the process, if
you looked at my group, you'd say, yeah, they're They
looked at least like the guy had some kind of
semblance of what right is that?
Speaker 8 (20:13):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Fair? Jays two, like, yes, you know it wasn't it was.
It's not a clown show.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
That weren't.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
We're not this is We're not doing it just for
the clicks. As a matter of fact, the clicks have
nothing to do with it anyway. But yeah, my guy
Anthony Roy can play. Holy cow. I mean he had
thirty and he missed a dead layup, and he turned
the ball over three times trying to do James Harden
and uh, he still had an efficient thirty, So we
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got to find a way to get him to get forty.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
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missing out. You're missing out. Okay, of the trades made
so far, which one has the biggest impact on a
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playoff team?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Well, I got to start with, thank congrats of your
first game. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
We lost, I lost a couple of goal is to
have more points than the other team, John, we had
less points than the other team, But thank you.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
True. But I mean the level of comp I mean,
I think I'm bullish. I would say on the Cowboys,
I guess I just heard on the updates that they're
putting him on injured reserve. Obviously that's something different now
than what it meant ten years ago. Obviously you can
come back off, but that's several games. I mean not
that even with them, they were in good shape. And
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Cooper Rush actually is probably one of the better backups
in the NFL. I mean, honestly, it might be the
best backup in the NFL. They've won game to Ruin before.
But this team isn't as good as those teams. And
I think Cowboys, you know, just big picture on the Cowboys.
He saw it last year with the Chargers. Like, if
you are going to have a season from hell and
you are going to get a new coach and you
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have some high priced guys, getting a top eight or
nine draft pick in every round is not a bad thing.
Like do you think Jim Harbaugh is bad that he
has Joe Alton mconkie on his team. So I think,
big picture, if you can just stomach this season going
down the drain, it's gonna pay off. And I think
what the Cowboys love doing. They did this with Trey Lance,
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and they did it today with the Mingo kid from Carolina,
is like they go off their draft grades. Now, the
Trey Lance thing was pretty crazy when they did it.
The Mingo thing to me is not you know, he
was just he was picked thirty nine in twenty twenty three.
You know, this is a wide receiver, a big physical
guy coming from the SEC. They're gonna need cheaper labor.
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So yeah, they gave up more or I always see
this on the internet, like, oh, they gave up more
for him than the Chiefs did DeAndre Hopkins. Well, yeah,
this guy makes less than a million dollars a year.
It was just drafted in the top forty. So he's
a young twenty three year old on a rookie. Now,
that doesn't mean he's gonna be any good, but I
understand why they did it. You were a call did
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not go through.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't even know what that is. John, You're still
there your show here on yeah, here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's let's get to the Cowboys. Though we mentioned Dak
you mentioned I are. I mean it's a hard like
when it happens on video, it's a hard one. And
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when he says we effing suck that, And I mean
when your quarterback and leader says that, that's a wow,
it's a wow.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Yeah. I mean, I'm a big believer in authenticity. I mean,
I know some people just bs into your face, but
we're all watching him play and he's on the sideline
watching this team get his budget. Obviously he's a part
of that. Yeah, at the time he was injured, but
I just like, what did he say it? It wasn't true.
I mean they're terrible. They're not very good now. Part
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of it is injuries. I mean they've had major injuries
on their defensive line. So their defense, which was questionable,
got way worse. I mean their personnel moves for a
team that you know, most teams were able to find
running backs, and they signed Zeke Elliott because like Jerry
likes them, and all I ever heard about Zeke was like,
you know, he's this super high level guy. He's a
(24:38):
great leader. And then the story breaks he gets left
at home because he's showing up late constantly. Isn't Zeke
like thirty plus years old? Has he been the league forever?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Like that?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
That's a pretty embarrassing story, right, Like on the stakes
you make professionally when you're in your early twenties, you know,
for normal humans shouldn't be the same one you make
when you become a veteran at the company. And that
was pretty symbolic of the Cowboys, Like they went back
down the rabbit hole at a position where there's a
million running backs because they love this guy and he's
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supposed to be like a high character super leader and
then he's just not showing up this stuff. So and
that to means more on Jerry than Mike. I don't
think Mike's banging down the door for you know, Zeke
Elliott to be on the team. And then you know,
Mike Zimmers that is that McCarthy's higher. It's just everything's
just got a whack there. And I do think it's
(25:31):
becoming a little bit, you know, the the latter years
of Al Davis. I think Cowboys have potential to be
that just because Jerry. I mean every time he doubles down,
like Jerry just just let's just take a week off,
and he does, you know, multiple radio hits and then
it's put daily press conference at the end of the game.
It's just it might be getting to the point where
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it's a little much.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It certainly feels like it's getting away from them in
a in a big, big way. Doug Leave Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. I thought a disappointing performance in
the Packers. Obviously it did look like Jordan Love maybe
you shouldn't have come back and played that soon, but
the game wasn't really competitive. And another big interception for
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Jordan Love. What's your biggest takeaway from the Lions kind
of dominating performance against the Pack?
Speaker 8 (26:19):
Yeah, I mean, it was really impressive. They had like
they had a chief, you know, Belichick, Brady Patriot vibe, like,
how how many games have we seen in inclement weather
with this Andy Reid Mahomes team. Now we saw it
again Monday night. We saw for twenty plus years with
the Patriots. It was like, we're just going to be
more buttoned up and better than you, and it's going
to look ugly and we're going to dominate you. And
(26:40):
that's what the Lions did, I mean in that game.
And I gett he's playing injured, like, no one questions
there's certain players like, no one questions toughness. No one, Jordan,
No one's question your toughness. If you're not going to
be able to function, then you might be hurting your team.
And the one thing that you cannot do in a
game like that, because points are going to be very
very difficult to come by, is hand them seven points.
(27:03):
And that's what he did on that play, which, let's
face it, the game ended. That when that play happened,
like that's when the game ended. And I just think
now he's had some moments in some of these games
where it's like, bro, you can't and even throughout the
game's a chuck in a deep like this is not
going to work in this driving rainstorm. And listen Dan
(27:24):
Campbell said it in the locker room after and he's right, like,
we don't care anymore, like we are built for this.
And when you watch him talk to his team, you're like,
this guy kind of has a vibe of like being
the third Hardbob Brother or something, because you know, you
could make fun of him early on for saying the stuff,
but now it's just like, no, the stuff works, Like
(27:47):
what he's saying is real and a toughness with a
franchise that I know they play in a cold weather city,
but they play inside, so you just never quite know.
And I mean, they're probably gonna be the number one seed,
so they want to I can go outside. But you
gotta feel pretty confident after watching that like that, that's
a pretty mentally tough team and the quarterback, which was
(28:08):
always a big knock, even Brady said during the game
he's like, you know, I didn't think he could just
maintain this accuracy, and then they show he was like
eleven and eleven at the time in the driving rainstorm.
So whatever he's done with Jared don as like hardball,
Andy Reid Alex Smith vibes. It's like an uplift that
(28:28):
and Jared's a better player than Alex Smith. But it's
it's been incredible to.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Watch Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. You know,
it's interesting. We were all watching the games at Buffalo
Wild Wings and Stillwater on Sunday, and obviously, John, you
know that Jason and I are big Charger guys, and
this is a little thing for I think. I think
(28:53):
a lot of people would have missed this, but maybe
it's me the coaching in me. Did you see their
end of first half where they were throwing the ball
backwards trying to score on the last second.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
I don't remember up down my head.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, it was really well executed, and then at the
end of it they had a chance at maybe another lateral,
but there was also the chance of fumbling it and
they just ate the football. So they probably marched it down.
They probably had seventy yards to go, and they got
it about forty yards and then and to me it's
signified that, oh they've done this. They look like they
(29:28):
were prepared for this, and they executed it. And then
when it was too risky because you can turn the
football over, you can give up a touchdown there when
it's too risky, they ate the football. My point is
that say whatever you want about the limitations the Chargers
have outside the numbers at wide receiver or what they've
had before the trade deadline, but they really look well
(29:51):
coached and they look like a team that is not
going to beat themselves and will be in the playoffs
this year.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
You know, I don't pretend to be a genius pro
now the caterer and I had the Saints winning the division,
so I can be an idiot, but I love the
Chargers to make the playoffs in August, and people like
yourself kind of scared me off a little bit. And
now you watch him, you go, this is just class
and Jim Rba and can you imagine being a Bears
fan and you drafted the guy. He played for you
(30:20):
for six or seven years. You know, he's part of
your franchise. He's that region of the country. He was
coaching at Michigan and knowing that, like you didn't even
attempt to get this guy, and the Chargers landed them
and immediately, I mean they had the same amount of
wins right now on what was date, November fifth then
they did all of last year. And when you look
(30:42):
at records that you know that kind of that visual
was going viral about twenty ten, nine or six and ten.
First year, thirteen and three Michigan. People forget how big
of a joke Michigan was before he showed up. Privey seven,
he went ten and three, and obviously last year was just,
I mean a pretty historic embarrassment. I mean they lost
(31:03):
the Raiders. What was that score on Thursday night where
everyone got fired? One hundreds and nothing and they went
five to twelve. And now he's headed toward I'd be
stunned if he doesn't win at least eleven games when
you look at the schedule and what he's doing with
the quarterback who is playing at an really high level.
The one thing you know with Jim, which is crazy
because he's a former quarterback, but he might as well
(31:25):
be a you know, former d tackler, linebacker. His defense
is going to be locked good when he shows up
because he hires good defensive coordinators. Actually usually he hired
grave defensive coordinators. Fangio with him at Stanford and the
forty nine ers, and now you know, going through McDonald
and Mentor, which obviously he's still got Mentor. But do
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you think anyone's gonna want I mean, obviously the Chiefs
are going to win the division, but if you're the
if you're the three seed, so let's just say that Ravens,
like you got to face Harball obviously, brothers, but you'll
say the Steelers, I mean, whoever wins that division and
they got to face the Chargers. That's the last team,
(32:06):
big time quarterback and Jim Harbaugh. That that's got upset
City written all over it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It really does. That's John Millcall three announced the podcast.
I'm sure he'll have one up at the end of
the night with the trade deadline coming to an end shortly, John,
thanks so much for the compliments. I appreciate it, and
hopefully next time we actually get the win. Don't just win.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
What's our point? What's our main point? Emphasis? At the
last night the next practice, defense.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, this matchup is very different. Our next game is
very very different. But yeah, I mean defense, and we
need to value the basketball. You know, we're too good
a passing team to have nineteen turnovers, but nineteen turnovers
nineteen offensive rebounds, and we just need to execute better.
And and uh, either play through fatigue or I need
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to play some more guys. It's probably the other thing.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I know. It wasn't about you, obviously your team, but
last night to be a pretty cool night.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It was cool. Plus my son was on my son
was on the bench, my daughters were there. I had
so many friends there. It was really cool. Great. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 2 (33:23):
S Doug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to
you from the tire rack dot Com Studios. I thought
I was dripping too hard last night too, Sam, I'm
glad you pointed that out. With the suit. It wasn't
just a sweat. I thought I had some good drip working.
Let's get to Dan Byer with a game.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Danny what you got.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
But Doug, the game today is rank them, all right, Doug,
rank the three best things that your team did last
night and their season opening lost to Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Number three, I thought, I thought we executed the defensive
game plan in the first half very very well, very well,
very well. Number two, I thought we executed some obs.
It's out of bounds plays. We scored a bunch of
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our out of bounds plays. Those are like set pieces
in soccer, and I take a special amount of pride
in that. It's special teams. So that was And the
number one thing is they fought until the final whistle.
Compete very easy in those games you get down nineteen.
I think nineteen was the biggest lead to just ah,
let's go le GoGet mine, and they didn't. They really fought,
(34:47):
all right, Doug.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Switching gears from college basketball to the National Football League,
we ask you this each week, who are your top
three teams right now in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I'm going to continue with my two and one one.
The challenge, I believe is at number three. So this
one's an interesting one, okay, because there's two options to
me based upon record, maybe three based upon record, And
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I think the Commanders are the third best team.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
In the NFL. Wow. I almost fell off my chair there.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Commander's three Chiefs, two Lions one.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
All right, dan Quinn Medicine Man, Doctor, Dan Quinn Medicine Man.
Rank your top three teams in college football? Doug Penn
State fell from the ranks of the unbeaten this past
week to Ohio State, Oregon's you know up there, Georgia.
Who's your top three in college football?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Right now? I'm gonna put Oregon at one, so I'll
do the I think Miami is massively overrated.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yep, seeing at number four right now?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Therefore, yeah, I'm gonna put Texas at three, Georgia at two,
and Oregon at one.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, now this on the heels. I'm going to add
this to the rankum game. You know sometimes he would do,
who are your favorite Chicago Bears? Whatever? Doug, rank your
top three Turners. This sudden the news of North Turner
turning the Raiders as an assistant offensive assistant with his
(36:33):
son Scott. There Turners in all fields. Your top three
and suggestions are welcome from the gallery.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Get Ted Turner, yep, Tina Turner, I wouldn't go, I
Turner He's definitely not gonna make this list. No, not
so much.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Evan Turner.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Evan Turner, sure, especially when he's at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
No quests.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Absolutely, What about Turner from Turner and Hooch.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Perfect, Justin Turner cast by.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The way, Justin Turner, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Trey Turner.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Uh, Michael Turner, yep, Michael Turner.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Good Turner, Yeah, Michael Burner Turner, that's a good call.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
But Michael Michael Turner. The running back was he had
those tree stumps is quad.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, he was used Quadzilla before Quadzilla.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
By the way, guys, nineteen ninety eight is on the
hot line. They just called they love the North Turner move.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
All right, son hiring his dad.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Okay, you want Tina Ted, you want Justin Ted?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Justin and Turner from Turner and Hooch.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
All right, and that's game time.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
Game.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's the way that tire buying should be. Hey, welcome in.
We're likely going to talk about a story that nationally
does not resonate nearly as much as the trade deadline
or yeah, there's some other stuff, but this is actually
a good day to talk about sports, because if you
want to talk about the election, I want to hear
(00:54):
about the election. Obviously it's everywhere else. So this is
a good way to just catch your bread and set
aside time to catch up on sports and figure out
all the trade deadline deals and why they were done.
By the way, if you just stay here we'll talk
about all of that stuff. Dan Byer Jase too. They
made the trek back to LA from the Sooner State
(01:15):
from the Red Dirt last night. Appreciate you guys setting
all that up and hanging out in the game. We'll
talk about that in a moment. But yeah, we did it.
We lost my first game as a college coach and
hosted the radio show before, hosted the radio show today,
and yeah, I mean, I appreciate so many sentiments on
(01:38):
my kind of emotional outburst yesterday during the opening of
the show, but I did continue to feel the gratefulness
in the experience. But like, look to those of you
who care. I'll talk in a second about what it
(02:00):
was actually like. But I can also tell you that
I take pride and I thought we were prepared. I
thought we were ready. I think I need to do
a better job and in terms of in game adjustments
into what's going on and how it's going on, and
be willing to I am usually willing to somebody who's
willing to throw the kitchen sink at different things. And
(02:21):
there was a kitchen sink element that I didn't necessarily
go to, but I should have taken a look at
some different stuff, regardless of which the night was mostly
a win, although I do want to start out okay,
So for people don't know coach, my first game at
Green Bay last night against my old montern Oklahoma State.
Dan Bayer Jay stew were there. I apologize to you
guys because you came all that way and I looked
(02:46):
behind my bench for an hour and I didn't see you.
And I'm only disappointed in one thing, and it's not
in the OSU basketball program. I don't believe it's in
my program, although I do think our guys should have
followed up. But you know, Dan and jay Stu were
(03:07):
supposed to be right behind my bench, so were my children,
and they weren't. And I think it was some last
second ads to the ticket list that ultimately ended up
not making lists. And again like it's little things end
up being big things and the things that we learn
(03:27):
along the way. You know, you ever watch all these
Instagram reelshere people talking about, well, you're not losing your learning.
I really did learn a lot. Now technically we lost
the game, but I did. I learned a ton and
their mistakes that I made that I won't make again.
And one of the mistakes I think I make made
even yesterday was with the tickets, where I have some
(03:47):
close friends who I said, hey, I need to know
if you need the tickets before, you know, uh, eight
o'clock at night the night before the game. They got
back to me at like three in the afternoon and
I asked to face for some more tickets. But I
was very specific about where I wanted those seats, and
it seemed to screw everything up. So sometimes you got
(04:09):
to say no right. Sometimes you got to say, hey,
the train left the station. Are we do you guys
really want to play me? Talking about me last night?
How we want to do?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I think we should? Well there's can I say one
thing about the seats?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Once I saw Harper by us, I was like, okay,
well there must have been something right, Yeah, that's a
Hayes because Hayes was on the bench with you last night.
He was at Gold nine by the way, you know,
we and we met up with you on Saturday and
Hayes hung out with us, and uh, Hayes at halftime
was jacked. I'm giving them fist pumps. I'm giving them
high fives because it's a one point game at that time.
(04:48):
It was great. It was. It was a lot of fun.
It was really it was. We had a blast. Whether
we were in section you know, two to eleven, or
if we were in row one right on the floor.
He was still a great time last night.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, I get it. I just it's infuriating me. You know,
I didn't. I didn't ask for much. I didn't. You know,
you get we get one hundred tickets, We get thirty
down low and seventy up top. And I put fifteen
people down low, and these people are not to be moved.
Do whatever you want with the other ones. And I
think I had some players parents up top too, and
they were all supposed to be down low as well.
(05:23):
They literally did the exact opposite of what we asked
them to do.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They did Costanza.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, yes, yes, Amy, Doug.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I know there were a lot of a lot of
moving parts for you yesterday. So I think if this
was the one thing you were disappointed in, like the
day was overwhelmingly as success, including yours, I.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Say, I understand, you're I'm actually I'm an event for
a second. It really pisses me off.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I know, I can tell you know, I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Really upset like this. That's like I said, this is
a one night show. Like my my daughter Grace flew
back from LA and like Grace has never she's watched
two basketball games in her life. You know, like it's
only gonna happen once. And you know a guy who
(06:11):
it's literally his job, he's got one job, and we
made it very easy for him. It was all color coded,
it was already And I'll take accountability for trying to
please other people. And I had a couple of people,
like my nephew is in Dallas and he canceled, so
I thought there was an extra floor seat available, but
like all my family was supposed to be behind the
(06:31):
bench and they're scattered, and even players' families, and I
did just it really upsets me. And it has nothing
to do with their program or anything else. It's one
guy and oh yeah, either got way. You can't get
ahold of the guy either, so it and it just
I'm mad for you guys, Jay stew And I know
(06:54):
you guys had a good time, but it's a completely
different sport when you're down below the bench and hear
everything that's going on and really kind of feel it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I don't know what your largest lead was last night,
I think, yeah, okay, good because I took a screenshot
of the first half when you guys were up sixteen
to nine. Then it may have been seven at other points,
but I mean it was it was really good. I mean,
and I love college basketball as it is. It was
actually so unique for me because my hometown that I'm
(07:27):
from doesn't produce Division one talent. We've had one kid
basically play two kids played D one in I don't know,
twenty some years, maybe even more than that. So to
have like a connection to someone, you know, I went
to a Big ten school and I knew some of
the guys on the you know, the Badger basketball team
(07:48):
at the time, sam Oki and Mike Kossel, Sharon and
a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Had great sam Ogi.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Okay, I knew those guys, but I wasn't like invested invested,
you know. And that's what was unique last night was
seeing you out there. Like we never even answered the
question were you going to wear a suit or wear
a half zip? And I was like, he's got to
wear a suit. So when I saw the assistance in
the half zip, I'm like, oh, they went half zip.
But then when you came out in the suit. I
thought it was amazing. So it was really neat for
(08:15):
me to see someone that I, you know, knew and
worked with for the last seven and a half years
to be in that environment. And you know, I wish
you guys would have won. But the first the first
twenty minutes, in the first twenty five minutes of the
game of game time absolutely amazing. Kind of ran away
after that point, but I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I was most proud in the last seven minutes or
so sure we and that they kept fighting, because those
things can spiral, and I chose to not empty my bench.
I gave a couple of different guys some opportunities late,
one of whom I thought did a really good job.
Kind of impressed me. But I just you know, I'm
not I. Everything you do has to have purpose when
(08:59):
you're lead eating young guys and they feel it. And
if you like, hey, we're just going to cycle through
our bench and play, guys like, no, that's not what
we're doing. We're trying to We were still trying to win.
We thought we had we had a shot. If we
get under ten, we get under seven, we can make
them sweat they have some questionable free throw shoot.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
They did have some questionable free throw shooting, by the
way last night. But Phoenix did what they needed to do,
except in my mind rebounding. Yeah, they're were we got you,
donk you okay?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah? I mean, and look, some of that's by design
because I played a smaller lineup and this is where
you learn things, right. I have a couple of big
guys that were available. Roo Selka, who's a freshman center.
He's twenty years old. He did a pretty good job
in the first half. He just, you know, I didn't
like how our offense looked in the first half when
I had the bigs out with him out there. And
(09:54):
then defensively Isaah Morando, who had a great alley you
dunk of a you know when we put him in
then he hasn't been practicing much, so he just was
completely out of gas. And then Mustafa Sisa who's also
on my bench. He'd been sick all week and I
just thought he would get rag dolled. But I should
(10:15):
have given him all a shot because we were just
getting bludgeoned on the boards, bludgeoned. And meanwhile, Marcus hall
Is he played thirty nine minutes and I should have
should have tried some different looks, but like, look, you
learn a lot and the experience was something that I
will never forget. And I wrote down a bunch of
notes in the middle of the night and things that
(10:36):
I want to do better and things that I want
to clean up and things that can can change us
as a team. But most of all, yes, it was.
It was definitely a dub for the overall night, right,
I mean, that's that's fair. I mean, let me ask you, Jason, Okay,
I'm sure that in your heart of hearts there there's
(10:58):
been moments in which you're like, is this it? Is
he going to be able to actually coach? You know
how I how we prep we there's literally no change
in what we do how we do So the was
that is that fair that you had to wonder? And Dan,
even you, you had to wonder, like, what's this actually
going to look like?
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I absolutely wondered. I have no idea the kind of
work you were putting in behind the scenes. Here. I
just deal with you professionally every day. We just deal
in sports content. I have no idea what kind of
team you had or what work you were putting in
and my takeaway from last night was that your guys
(11:38):
came to play. I did not see. You know, I
have a pretty layman's view of basketball, but I that
looked like a well coached team that happened to not
be tall enough or athletic enough. You know, you just
didn't quite have the bodies. But you're right at the end,
you guys fought, and to give the listeners a little
bit of perspective, you can't care about this, but the
Vegas sports books had you at getting eighteen points and
(12:02):
you covered, so you were better than Vegas thought you'd do.
That first half was just amazing. I want to play
I just want to play a highlight so that you
can kind of get a play by play of This
might have been the highest point of the of the
of the game. I think it was like one of
the Within the first five.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Minutes, Nick little up and under laid it up too strong.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Hall comes out with the rebound sue Nick had him beat,
just lay up a little too high off the glass.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Now Roy deep three. Anthony Royd buries it for about
five feet behind the arc at Green Bay out on
an eight nothing run, is out fourteen to seven. I
love that player and your guy, Marcus. What's in Marcus Hall?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Marcus Hall?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Oh, for he was so fun to watch. I think
he maybe just kind of ran out of gas.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, well that's me. That's on his coach. I played
him too much, you know. And b he had sixteen
the first half he had two baseline dunks? Can I
honestly like, this is how it works in college sports.
This is what's really sad. Okay, Marcus Hall's from Walsall,
Wisconsin's not that's thirty minutes away. He's nineteen years old.
I mean, he wants nothing from nobody. Before I got there,
(13:10):
his nickname was the Waiter because he looks like he
could be a waiter at any nice restaurant, right, Just
a really nice kid. And we call him white Marcus
because when I told people about I told my coaches
before they met him about how I really like Marcus
Hall and I think we can do some special things
(13:30):
with him. And then they met him, They're like, I
didn't know MICUs Hall was a white guy, like I
sounded like it was a black guy. And so because
of that, I call him white Marcus. Anyway, this is
this is sad, but it's the reality, which is he
had two baseline dunks in the first half at sixteen points,
had a couple of threes, a couple of dunks, he
had too many turnovers. He's a much better player than that.
(13:53):
But we're walking to locker room going did you have
to dunk it twice on people? Because now some but
he's going to offer you some gigantic amount of money,
right and maybe in handshake lines, you know, it's like, oh,
hold on, that's actually how it works. Sad, but yes, Sammy, all.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Right, So what time yesterday did you wake up? I
got a big, big, whole collective question here. What what
time did your day start yesterday?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Uh, four thirty four to.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Thirty in the morning.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And what time did you go to bed the night before? No,
like last night after the game?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Late?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah it was. It probably started with the two.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
You had a long, long day and I saw pictures
of you. You were coaching your butt off, you were
sweating through your shirt, you were just giving it all.
And I just want to know. You said you were
up and awake writing stuff down. But I wonder how
well did you sleep, how hard it were? Did you
sleep like a rock? That's what I want to know, no, no,
you see that's interesting. Either you got some anxiety and
(15:04):
keeping you up or you're gonna sleep really really hard.
But it sounds like Mark, you were too stimulated.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, it's just over stimulated.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, but we can we talk about the introductions. What
was one of the Dan's questions yesterday, how do you
think you'll be received? You know, that place was what
I don't know, at the very beginning of the game,
maybe a half full. If I'm a fun being generous,
you're being generous. But even the smaller crowd there was
a loud cheer. I forget the exact wording that the
(15:34):
PA announcer used. I think Dan remembers, but I thought
it was that was a nice ovation. Yeah, I got
the I got the video on my phone. I made
sure to.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I tried to video record Doug from when he walked
on to the court, you know, the handshake and then
when they announced the starting lamps, because they did green
Bay's first, and then they announced Doug Gottlieb. They didn't
do like the alternating that you just did the green
Bay and former Cowboy Doug Gottlieb. But I've got that
video and I will send it a long Doug, and
(16:05):
if I can have ten seconds as my mic off,
I can be able to listen and hear what they said.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Uh, okay, it was Larry. Larry Reese is the PA announcer,
So this was Here's my thoughts after after the game.
I want to thank Coach Lutz for playing this game.
I made no secret I play it because I.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Wanted this game for a myriad of reasons, but mostly
for those three people. You know, we moved them across
the country a bunch of times. They've been through a lot,
and I just I just wanted to have them sit
the dad coach with the bat. I haven't feel it
(16:50):
because I want my kids to be proud of me
and proud of the the fabric of what we do
and the connectivity with our kids. And I'm I'm especially
part of my team, but it really it's for them.
But I'm so respectful of Coach Lots. They're just as advertised,
(17:11):
you know, plays fast and they play hard.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And physical as hell. Yeah, they pushed us around a bit,
but it was it was great. My my three kids
were all there and uh, Grace, Harper and Hayes and yeah, Hayes, Hayes.
I I cannot tell you how many people uh interacted
with Hayes last night, and we're like, your son's awesome,
so it's all you can ever ask for. And then
(17:34):
he was he was right, he's like dad, and halftimes
like dad, and listen, I know you like to play small,
but we're getting beat up inside. We got to play
big some and I was like, yeah, our offense is
bad when we're big. He's like, yeah, well, your defense
is bad when you're small. So it's just cool to
to share that with him.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
There was there was the PA, he said, the head
coach of the University of Green Bay Phoenix, former Oklahoma
State cowboy Doug got leave, and then there was a
noticeable rise in cheers. Doug, you gave a little you know,
thank you tap and uh yeah. I went on for
about five seconds, and then Oklahoma State's intro started.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah. I don't know. I like, you never know what
to do. It's so weird though, when you know all
the cheers and you know the Nona No, hay Son,
We're going to beat the hell out of you, right
like that's what they do right before tip off.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I thought you, being on the other bench would have
been weird.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I've been on the other bench once before, sort of.
I don't know if you guys knew this. My my
dad had an exhibition team and we played against coach
and uh that was but that was like two years
maybe after I played there. That was. That was cool,
But it wasn't you know, as an exhibition game. This
is a real one. Yeah it was. It was different,
But I'm like, I don't really know Coach LUTs. I
(18:52):
don't really know, Like we're not it's not like we're
like enemies. I just were not. Like I know, I'm
close with people he's close with, but we're not close.
So there's and there's a couple of people on his bench,
Keaton Page and Scott Sutton obviously who I am. I
do consider it close. I'm close with obviously them being
for my Cowboys as well, so that part's a little different,
(19:12):
but it's it's so far, so far from removed from
my crew who I played for, so and I also like,
again I understand it's also it was his debut as
an OSU coach, and so there's a you're not going
to take away from his shine. He earned that moment
more than I did. But it was a great night.
(19:33):
I wish I would have been a little bit better.
I wish would have turned over a little bit less.
There's a bunch of different things I learned, and I
you know, I none of it is with the intent
of proving people wrong. You can't prove people wrong by
anything you say, but you can prove people wrong based
upon things that you do and how you play. And
(19:55):
I would the turnovers would probably cause you to say,
maybe they weren't the most prepared team. But I do
think that if you if you watch the process, if
you looked at my group, you'd say, yeah, they're They
looked at least like the guy had some kind of
semblance of what right is that?
Speaker 8 (20:13):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Fair? Jays two, like, yes, you know it wasn't it was.
It's not a clown show.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
That weren't.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
We're not this is We're not doing it just for
the clicks. As a matter of fact, the clicks have
nothing to do with it anyway. But yeah, my guy
Anthony Roy can play. Holy cow. I mean he had
thirty and he missed a dead layup, and he turned
the ball over three times trying to do James Harden
and uh, he still had an efficient thirty, So we
(20:40):
got to find a way to get him to get forty.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Stug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Trady Live on the
TYRTE dot com studios. Let's welcome in John Mittlecoff. Three
and Out is the podcast he covers the entire National
Football League. If you haven't downloaded it, you're just you're
missing out. You're missing out. Okay, of the trades made
so far, which one has the biggest impact on a
(21:14):
playoff team?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Well, I got to start with, thank congrats of your
first game. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
We lost, I lost a couple of goal is to
have more points than the other team, John, we had
less points than the other team, But thank you.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
True. But I mean the level of comp I mean,
I think I'm bullish. I would say on the Cowboys,
I guess I just heard on the updates that they're
putting him on injured reserve. Obviously that's something different now
than what it meant ten years ago. Obviously you can
come back off, but that's several games. I mean not
that even with them, they were in good shape. And
(21:52):
Cooper Rush actually is probably one of the better backups
in the NFL. I mean, honestly, it might be the
best backup in the NFL. They've won game to Ruin before.
But this team isn't as good as those teams. And
I think Cowboys, you know, just big picture on the Cowboys.
He saw it last year with the Chargers. Like, if
you are going to have a season from hell and
you are going to get a new coach and you
(22:12):
have some high priced guys, getting a top eight or
nine draft pick in every round is not a bad thing.
Like do you think Jim Harbaugh is bad that he
has Joe Alton mconkie on his team. So I think,
big picture, if you can just stomach this season going
down the drain, it's gonna pay off. And I think
what the Cowboys love doing. They did this with Trey Lance,
(22:35):
and they did it today with the Mingo kid from Carolina,
is like they go off their draft grades. Now, the
Trey Lance thing was pretty crazy when they did it.
The Mingo thing to me is not you know, he
was just he was picked thirty nine in twenty twenty three.
You know, this is a wide receiver, a big physical
guy coming from the SEC. They're gonna need cheaper labor.
(22:58):
So yeah, they gave up more or I always see
this on the internet, like, oh, they gave up more
for him than the Chiefs did DeAndre Hopkins. Well, yeah,
this guy makes less than a million dollars a year.
It was just drafted in the top forty. So he's
a young twenty three year old on a rookie. Now,
that doesn't mean he's gonna be any good, but I
understand why they did it. You were a call did
(23:19):
not go through.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't even know what that is. John, You're still
there your show here on yeah, here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's let's get to the Cowboys. Though we mentioned Dak
you mentioned I are. I mean it's a hard like
when it happens on video, it's a hard one. And
(23:41):
when he says we effing suck that, And I mean
when your quarterback and leader says that, that's a wow,
it's a wow.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Yeah. I mean, I'm a big believer in authenticity. I mean,
I know some people just bs into your face, but
we're all watching him play and he's on the sideline
watching this team get his budget. Obviously he's a part
of that. Yeah, at the time he was injured, but
I just like, what did he say it? It wasn't true.
I mean they're terrible. They're not very good now. Part
(24:16):
of it is injuries. I mean they've had major injuries
on their defensive line. So their defense, which was questionable,
got way worse. I mean their personnel moves for a
team that you know, most teams were able to find
running backs, and they signed Zeke Elliott because like Jerry
likes them, and all I ever heard about Zeke was like,
you know, he's this super high level guy. He's a
(24:38):
great leader. And then the story breaks he gets left
at home because he's showing up late constantly. Isn't Zeke
like thirty plus years old? Has he been the league forever?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Like that?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
That's a pretty embarrassing story, right, Like on the stakes
you make professionally when you're in your early twenties, you know,
for normal humans shouldn't be the same one you make
when you become a veteran at the company. And that
was pretty symbolic of the Cowboys, Like they went back
down the rabbit hole at a position where there's a
million running backs because they love this guy and he's
(25:09):
supposed to be like a high character super leader and
then he's just not showing up this stuff. So and
that to means more on Jerry than Mike. I don't
think Mike's banging down the door for you know, Zeke
Elliott to be on the team. And then you know,
Mike Zimmers that is that McCarthy's higher. It's just everything's
just got a whack there. And I do think it's
(25:31):
becoming a little bit, you know, the the latter years
of Al Davis. I think Cowboys have potential to be
that just because Jerry. I mean every time he doubles down,
like Jerry just just let's just take a week off,
and he does, you know, multiple radio hits and then
it's put daily press conference at the end of the game.
It's just it might be getting to the point where
(25:51):
it's a little much.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
It certainly feels like it's getting away from them in
a in a big, big way. Doug Leave Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. I thought a disappointing performance in
the Packers. Obviously it did look like Jordan Love maybe
you shouldn't have come back and played that soon, but
the game wasn't really competitive. And another big interception for
(26:13):
Jordan Love. What's your biggest takeaway from the Lions kind
of dominating performance against the Pack?
Speaker 8 (26:19):
Yeah, I mean, it was really impressive. They had like
they had a chief, you know, Belichick, Brady Patriot vibe, like,
how how many games have we seen in inclement weather
with this Andy Reid Mahomes team. Now we saw it
again Monday night. We saw for twenty plus years with
the Patriots. It was like, we're just going to be
more buttoned up and better than you, and it's going
to look ugly and we're going to dominate you. And
(26:40):
that's what the Lions did, I mean in that game.
And I gett he's playing injured, like, no one questions
there's certain players like, no one questions toughness. No one, Jordan,
No one's question your toughness. If you're not going to
be able to function, then you might be hurting your team.
And the one thing that you cannot do in a
game like that, because points are going to be very
very difficult to come by, is hand them seven points.
(27:03):
And that's what he did on that play, which, let's
face it, the game ended. That when that play happened,
like that's when the game ended. And I just think
now he's had some moments in some of these games
where it's like, bro, you can't and even throughout the
game's a chuck in a deep like this is not
going to work in this driving rainstorm. And listen Dan
(27:24):
Campbell said it in the locker room after and he's right, like,
we don't care anymore, like we are built for this.
And when you watch him talk to his team, you're like,
this guy kind of has a vibe of like being
the third Hardbob Brother or something, because you know, you
could make fun of him early on for saying the stuff,
but now it's just like, no, the stuff works, Like
(27:47):
what he's saying is real and a toughness with a
franchise that I know they play in a cold weather city,
but they play inside, so you just never quite know.
And I mean, they're probably gonna be the number one seed,
so they want to I can go outside. But you
gotta feel pretty confident after watching that like that, that's
a pretty mentally tough team and the quarterback, which was
(28:08):
always a big knock, even Brady said during the game
he's like, you know, I didn't think he could just
maintain this accuracy, and then they show he was like
eleven and eleven at the time in the driving rainstorm.
So whatever he's done with Jared don as like hardball,
Andy Reid Alex Smith vibes. It's like an uplift that
(28:28):
and Jared's a better player than Alex Smith. But it's
it's been incredible to.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Watch Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. You know,
it's interesting. We were all watching the games at Buffalo
Wild Wings and Stillwater on Sunday, and obviously, John, you
know that Jason and I are big Charger guys, and
this is a little thing for I think. I think
(28:53):
a lot of people would have missed this, but maybe
it's me the coaching in me. Did you see their
end of first half where they were throwing the ball
backwards trying to score on the last second.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
I don't remember up down my head.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Well, it was really well executed, and then at the
end of it they had a chance at maybe another lateral,
but there was also the chance of fumbling it and
they just ate the football. So they probably marched it down.
They probably had seventy yards to go, and they got
it about forty yards and then and to me it's
signified that, oh they've done this. They look like they
(29:28):
were prepared for this, and they executed it. And then
when it was too risky because you can turn the
football over, you can give up a touchdown there when
it's too risky, they ate the football. My point is
that say whatever you want about the limitations the Chargers
have outside the numbers at wide receiver or what they've
had before the trade deadline, but they really look well
(29:51):
coached and they look like a team that is not
going to beat themselves and will be in the playoffs
this year.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
You know, I don't pretend to be a genius pro
now the caterer and I had the Saints winning the division,
so I can be an idiot, but I love the
Chargers to make the playoffs in August, and people like
yourself kind of scared me off a little bit. And
now you watch him, you go, this is just class
and Jim Rba and can you imagine being a Bears
fan and you drafted the guy. He played for you
(30:20):
for six or seven years. You know, he's part of
your franchise. He's that region of the country. He was
coaching at Michigan and knowing that, like you didn't even
attempt to get this guy, and the Chargers landed them
and immediately, I mean they had the same amount of
wins right now on what was date, November fifth then
they did all of last year. And when you look
(30:42):
at records that you know that kind of that visual
was going viral about twenty ten, nine or six and ten.
First year, thirteen and three Michigan. People forget how big
of a joke Michigan was before he showed up. Privey seven,
he went ten and three, and obviously last year was just,
I mean a pretty historic embarrassment. I mean they lost
(31:03):
the Raiders. What was that score on Thursday night where
everyone got fired? One hundreds and nothing and they went
five to twelve. And now he's headed toward I'd be
stunned if he doesn't win at least eleven games when
you look at the schedule and what he's doing with
the quarterback who is playing at an really high level.
The one thing you know with Jim, which is crazy
because he's a former quarterback, but he might as well
(31:25):
be a you know, former d tackler, linebacker. His defense
is going to be locked good when he shows up
because he hires good defensive coordinators. Actually usually he hired
grave defensive coordinators. Fangio with him at Stanford and the
forty nine ers, and now you know, going through McDonald
and Mentor, which obviously he's still got Mentor. But do
(31:46):
you think anyone's gonna want I mean, obviously the Chiefs
are going to win the division, but if you're the
if you're the three seed, so let's just say that Ravens,
like you got to face Harball obviously, brothers, but you'll
say the Steelers, I mean, whoever wins that division and
they got to face the Chargers. That's the last team,
(32:06):
big time quarterback and Jim Harbaugh. That that's got upset
City written all over it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It really does. That's John Millcall three announced the podcast.
I'm sure he'll have one up at the end of
the night with the trade deadline coming to an end shortly, John,
thanks so much for the compliments. I appreciate it, and
hopefully next time we actually get the win. Don't just win.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
What's our point? What's our main point? Emphasis? At the
last night the next practice, defense.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, this matchup is very different. Our next game is
very very different. But yeah, I mean defense, and we
need to value the basketball. You know, we're too good
a passing team to have nineteen turnovers, but nineteen turnovers
nineteen offensive rebounds, and we just need to execute better.
And and uh, either play through fatigue or I need
(32:54):
to play some more guys. It's probably the other thing.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
I know. It wasn't about you, obviously your team, but
last night to be a pretty cool night.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It was cool. Plus my son was on my son
was on the bench, my daughters were there. I had
so many friends there. It was really cool. Great. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
S Doug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to
you from the tire rack dot Com Studios. I thought
I was dripping too hard last night too, Sam, I'm
glad you pointed that out. With the suit. It wasn't
just a sweat. I thought I had some good drip working.
Let's get to Dan Byer with a game.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Danny what you got.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
But Doug, the game today is rank them, all right, Doug,
rank the three best things that your team did last
night and their season opening lost to Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Number three, I thought, I thought we executed the defensive
game plan in the first half very very well, very well,
very well. Number two, I thought we executed some obs.
It's out of bounds plays. We scored a bunch of
(34:25):
our out of bounds plays. Those are like set pieces
in soccer, and I take a special amount of pride
in that. It's special teams. So that was And the
number one thing is they fought until the final whistle.
Compete very easy in those games you get down nineteen.
I think nineteen was the biggest lead to just ah,
let's go le GoGet mine, and they didn't. They really fought,
(34:47):
all right, Doug.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Switching gears from college basketball to the National Football League,
we ask you this each week, who are your top
three teams right now in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I'm going to continue with my two and one one.
The challenge, I believe is at number three. So this
one's an interesting one, okay, because there's two options to
me based upon record, maybe three based upon record, And
(35:20):
I think the Commanders are the third best team.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
In the NFL. Wow. I almost fell off my chair there.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Commander's three Chiefs, two Lions one.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
All right, dan Quinn Medicine Man, Doctor, Dan Quinn Medicine Man.
Rank your top three teams in college football? Doug Penn
State fell from the ranks of the unbeaten this past
week to Ohio State, Oregon's you know up there, Georgia.
Who's your top three in college football?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Right now? I'm gonna put Oregon at one, so I'll
do the I think Miami is massively overrated.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yep, seeing at number four right now?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Therefore, yeah, I'm gonna put Texas at three, Georgia at two,
and Oregon at one.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, now this on the heels. I'm going to add
this to the rankum game. You know sometimes he would do,
who are your favorite Chicago Bears? Whatever? Doug, rank your
top three Turners. This sudden the news of North Turner
turning the Raiders as an assistant offensive assistant with his
(36:33):
son Scott. There Turners in all fields. Your top three
and suggestions are welcome from the gallery.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Get Ted Turner, yep, Tina Turner, I wouldn't go, I
Turner He's definitely not gonna make this list. No, not
so much.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Evan Turner.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Evan Turner, sure, especially when he's at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
No quests.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Absolutely, What about Turner from Turner and Hooch.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Perfect, Justin Turner cast by.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The way, Justin Turner, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Trey Turner.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Uh, Michael Turner, yep, Michael Turner.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Good Turner, Yeah, Michael Burner Turner, that's a good call.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
But Michael Michael Turner. The running back was he had
those tree stumps is quad.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, he was used Quadzilla before Quadzilla.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
By the way, guys, nineteen ninety eight is on the
hot line. They just called they love the North Turner move.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
All right, son hiring his dad.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Okay, you want Tina Ted, you want Justin Ted?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Justin and Turner from Turner and Hooch.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
All right, and that's game time.
Speaker 8 (37:49):
Game.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It is a Gottlief show. It is Fox Sports Radio,
and uh man, we're gonna have a have a super
fun show for you, super super fun show for you
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