November 11, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug talks about the victories on Sunday by the Chiefs and Lions as both faced adversity and pulled out their wins in the final seconds. Doug breaks down what is going on with Caleb Williams and the Bears. Doug welcomes FSR Weekends host and former NFL player Rich Ohrnberger onto the show to talk about the Cowboys, Lions and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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little bit of a cold here, boys, bat a little
bit of a cold so uh it is uh, it's
not yet winter in Green Bay. But to those of
us who've lived in southern California for roughly twenty one
years of our life, it feels a lot like if
it gets worse than this, Wow, No, it's just really windy,
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about forty degrees and cold and crisp. And then when
you're not feeling good to begin with, it doesn't feel
any better. You know, when you take the reins of
a show, You're like, Hey, should we dogpile on the Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That seems easy?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Should we try and figure out what the hell happened
to the Texans last night? Is Jered Goff throws five
interceptions and they still lose? Should we go into some
sort of what now for Chicago because this really isn't working?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Or will you talk about something that I noticed? So
full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Friday, we played and lost to Saint Thomas University. Saint
Thomas University was a D three national champion in twenty sixteen.
They're in their third year of transitioning to Division one.
We knew they would be really good, and they were
kicking our tail in the first We were competitive in
the second half cut to nine, but could never get
much closer and ended up winning anything about thirteen or
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fourteen points. And you look, when you're a first time coach,
when you played a Power five school and then you
played a high level Division ones, a high level mid major,
and I think Saint Thomas is exceptionally well coached. Obviously,
we had Johnny Tower on their head coach Friday. Before
the game. You know, people know in the industry know,
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and they're like, yeah, your first one's coming. But man,
when you got to zero in two next to your name,
doesn't feel good and you start to fall back on
what have I always known is that the hardest thing
to teach. And we're not even there yet, right We
haven't gotten to close games.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That were to lose yet. We won our.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Scrimmage, we won our exhibition, we've lost our two games.
We haven't gotten to where it's it's close so we
can really figure out what we have to learn. But
there's this thing about winning places in losing places, and
I think.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You all know it to be true.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's like the Lions for fifty years would have lost
that game last night, and the Chiefs for probably thirty years,
especially if it's the playoffs, would have lost that game yesterday.
But the Chiefs have this remarkable ability to do everything
in their power to not win, only find a way
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to win at the end of a game. And the
Lions have somehow flipped the script on their history and
figure out how to win when previously they would always
go into the tank and lose. It's like the most
sports thing ever that you can't really explain is that
just winning becomes contagious.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Winners win and I watched both of those games yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You know, I'm sick on the couch, not feeling great
in out of consciousness. But watch the Chiefs Broncos game,
and there's nothing thing really special about what bo Nix
is doing, you know, just everything is easy and safe.
But they put themselves in position to win the game
on a game winning field goal and it doesn't get blocked.
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And then you watch late at night and that game
should have been over at halftime between It wasn't just
that the Lions were throwing interceptions and not playing well.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The Texas were playing good football.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Here's Dan Campbell, head coach the Lions, talking about how
his defense kept a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I thought our defense played good early. We just had
one play here, one play there that really that hurt us.
But second half you come out and it's you know,
four punts, two picks and a miss field goal. That's huge,
And we talked about it at halftime. We just needed
to get our takeaways. I just felt good about it.
I just felt like he was gonna make it, you know,
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and he did. He stepped up and nailed it. That
was great and his confidence is growing.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Here's Jake Bates, the kicker. I'm sorry. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Here's Jared Goff talking about the five interceptions and the
adversity is team dealt with.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I didn't feel like I was I was playing all
that bad. I was seeing things well. Ultimately, I got
to take care of the ball. But they were, they
were making some good plays and and I think ultimately
like I never lost confidence because I felt like I
was doing what I was supposed to do on on
on most of those plays, and the guys stuck with
me on offense, and I was telling them, hey man,
I'm good, just just hanging there and I'm good. I'm
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gonna have this thing figured out, and they stuck with me.
When you can dig in deep in those adverse situations
and come out on top, it just it just prepares
you for the next adverse situation. You know, it's never
over till it's over. We were in a hole there,
big hole, and they were playing well, they were humming
on defense. I kept giving them the ball over and
over and we fought.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We really did.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, you just you learn so much more about yourself
through adversity.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I will be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
My team, uh, you know, we we get where. It
was an eight teen point swing in five minutes in
the first half five minutes. Same thing happened against Oklahoma State,
and my positive takeaway was my guys fought back that
they dug in, they decided to play defense. We changed
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a couple things and they decided, Hey, we're gonna guard
our man, guard our ball, rebound the basketball, and then
do the things that I asked to them offensively. So
again the takeaway is you really find out about yourself,
about your culture when you go through adversity. That's the
thing about the Lions, right, I thought they gave away
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the NFC Championship game last year. Those are hard things
to come back from because you spend the entire offseason
doing these shoulda coulda would have and sometimes you skip
a step when you're like, yeah, we're actually we're good.
I thought what golf nailed is the true secret to
all this stuff. You got to play better, but you
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can't lose your confidence what you've been doing right, and
that can only come from three things. Yourself within you,
but to your coach and the culture that's around you,
where we're not jumping off the ship.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And then you have to have seen some.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Sort of success through adversity, like the Lions. Winning the
game is great, but even in position to win that
game I think is special. And if you ask any
Lions fan to be like for the last fifty years,
we would have lost that game. It would have been
embarrassment if could have gone away down three touchdowns and
the game would have been over early and the bus
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would have been started at the end of the third quarter.
That's not what Dan Campbell has said, and that's not
what Dan Campbell has done.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You can't point to any genius in terms of X
and o's. He doesn't coach the offense. He's a former
tight end and tight end's coach doesn't coach the defense.
What he has done is he's spread this air of
confidence and a will that if you go back to
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his opening press conference, he said, when you knock us down,
we're gonna get up and we're going to take a kneecap,
and he knock us down again, we'll take the other kneecap. Right,
all of that stuff that was clowned about, that was
made fun of, and I will point out made fun
of by other shows, not by this show.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Because I got it, I understood it.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I lean into who you are, coach, those things and
make them non negotiables. The non negotiables are we are
not giving up.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
There is no.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Score that's going to make us give up, positively or negatively.
And then you look at the Cancaity Chiefs and it's
annoying what they've gotten to. But it's really remarkable how
this has changed. If you think back before the Pat
Mahomes era, and most of it was in the playoffs,
but before the Pat Mahomes era, the Chiefs were regular
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season darlings and the second they'd hit adversity in the playoffs,
they would go away a lot of times at home.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And now it's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They just find a way, find a way, and culture
and leadership is like you know the French phrase, the
jena sequa. It means it certain, I don't know what.
It's something that can't be truly identified. There's not one thing.
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It's just a feeling. And both of those teams who
feel like they're on a collision course to get to
a Super Bowl habit.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's the genes sequa. It's the I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't know how, I don't know how Kansaity keeps
winning these games, but they find new and inventive ways
to do it. I don't know how the Detroit Lions
came off of being having five interceptions from the quarterback,
trailing on the road early and coming back and winning
a game late. But they've done it. That is leadership,
That is culture. That is the Jenisequa. I don't know
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what it is, but winners do win.
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Speaker 7 (10:21):
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Speaker 1 (10:23):
We got love and hate upcoming. That's so good. Top
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San Diego.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I do want to talk.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's interesting. We don't need to turn this into Chargers talk.
But does anyone realize The Chargers are six and three
on the year, and again, I don't think they're a
great football team at all.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I don't think anybody would argue with me.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I think six and three on the year. Though, what's
that about? Like that this is a winners win And yeah,
their schedule is easier because they you know, fourth place schedule,
fourth place team last year, got it. But man, are
the Chargers their ability to just be solid win games
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not lose games. There's an NFL expression more games are
lost than our won, and the Chargers are a perfect
example of that.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
A lot of other stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Man, you have Deebo Samuel getting into it with his
long snapper and kicker, and then the kicker kicking the
game winner. You have do you guys see this Friday
Auburn's basketball team they're getting ready to go and play
on the road against Houston, and the plane turnaround because
two guys got in a fight that one overshadowed, some accusations.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Going on in Florida.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Lots of things, and then of course you have the
college football Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
We'll get to the college fall Saturday.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I think in the pod mostly maybe a little bit
in love and hate Alabama goes down to beat LSU
in Baton Rouge on a Saturday night. What one hell
of football win? And we had our gambler picks. How'd
your guys gambler picks do, Jase do? What your mine was?
Old miss over Georgia? That was I thought that was
pretty easy. It turned out to be pretty easy. I
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don't remember your guys gambler picks?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Jase do.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I think you were singing during mine, So I'm not
surprised that you didn't remember it because you were so
involved in the lyrics, Galla, But no, I think I
missed on both of mine, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What were your picks?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Great question? I don't know. I remember Kyle Bohler wasn't
walking through the door, so cal was involved.
Speaker 9 (12:36):
Yes, But I like, how would do this segment when
Doug's coming off of a win? Yes, you know, like
we never do this.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Like I took the Bears and they were they were
embarrassing on Sunday, and so I lost my gambler pick.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Dannon won like six straight games started.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Out six and oh and I don't think I've won
one since I mentioned it on the show. So and
I loved Denver this week, by the way, for some reason,
I don't know. I had been talking about it for
weeks and I thought if the Chiefs were to lose
that it would be the Denver game. Obviously they didn't,
But I don't know why I took the Bears.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Is a real question though, Okay, real question.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, if your team, let's say you picked the Broncos,
and the Broncos for all intentsive purposes, should have won
that game, do we Does anybody want to dispute that
I'm not a Broncos fan. I'm a Chiefs fan and
a Chiefs hater and not a Broncos hater. I'm just
a sports guy who watches. For all intents and purposes,
the Broncos should have won the game. The chances of
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a blockfield goal in the NFL are very remote, fewer
blockfield goals than missed extra points since they've moved it back,
So they should.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Have won that game. What does it make it a
bad pick if you if you miss on that.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
One, No, it doesn't make it a bad pick. It
just shows you again why you wouldn't necessarily why it's
not great business to bet on the NFL and by
the way, that would be a straight up pick, so
you're beginning a lot of value. Which but if you
just packed against the spread, you were safe and sound,
no matter.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But let's say you picked the Broncos straight up and
you're like, I think the Broncos and and you line
out a couple of reasons why you're like, look, Chiefs
probably don't take them particularly seriously, right, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Short week for Game of City, they got Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Next week, sure, Sandwich game whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And then and then the game winning field goal gets
blocked and they cleared, Like you don't necessarily get to
do a victory lap, and I told you so, but
I do think you actually earned people's respect. You're like,
you know what, you're probably right there. You know you're
right there, Sam, What was your pick?
Speaker 6 (14:40):
My pick was the Mighty Cardinals defeating the Mighty Jets
at home, and yeah they won by twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Five So yes, yes, jetsra j Ets mess mess mess Okay, Dan,
I'll promise you this every Monday now we'll make sure
to recap them because I have taken some l on them.
I've done pretty well in these as well, and no problem,
and like, look.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You guys, would have allowed me to dodge.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
The fact that my team gave up fifty four points
in the first half on Friday like that was embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I appreciate it. We're not gonna duck and dodge that stuff.
We're gonna learn.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We're gonna figure it out. And I one't thing people
don't know is I can't tell if I broke my
foot or not. So we come into the locker room.
We gave up fifty four points in the first half.
Twelve layups, twelve layps, they got us all spread out,
and twelve laps, and I kicked a chair because you know,
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the chair was looking at me sideways. The chair was
running its mouth to me about my defensive concepts and
not knowing what I was doing. So I kicked that
damn chair and I haven't gotten an next raid. It's
the The area is still swollen and the toes are
black and blue, but I have full movement on it,
just a little bit of pain. So I think it
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sounds better if I say I broke my foot, don't
know if it's actually broken.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Here's bro So there you go. Let's get to the bears.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I did watch some of that Caleb Williams was sacked
nine times, nine times. Here's Caleb Williams, the number one
overall pick in this year's draft, talking about the struggles
on offense.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Had about two or three plays and key moments of
situational ball that it didn't click in in my head.
Two was taking two sacks, two or three sacks in
situations where we were able to get a field goal attempt.
And then you know, I put us out of field
goal range, not throwing the ball out of bounds or
over one of my ride receivers heads or dirting and.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Things like that. And then I think that I think
it starts there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Here's Matt Eberflus, a coach who's under a ton of pressure,
talking about their struggles.
Speaker 10 (16:45):
Well, look at everything.
Speaker 11 (16:45):
I think it's looked from everything from the on the
top to the bottom and making sure that we're finding
the answers to move the ball on the field, you know,
play better as a football team on offense, defense, and
special teams. As the head football coach, all disappointed, accepting accountability,
you know for everything, and then really just looking inward
at myself, and that's what I asked the players to
do too.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Take a good, hard.
Speaker 11 (17:06):
Look at everything and like good complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So, I mean there's no real answers there provided other
than he did say the buck stops there. They're a mess.
And here's the thing that I actually can relate to.
You know, we losed Oklahoma State on Monday. I made
sure tell my guys don't let Oklahoma State beats you twice.
And I think as a coaching staff, you're in the
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same thing. Like our matchups with Saint Thomas couldn't have
been more different. The two types of games. They're skilled
and smart and spread you out, can all shoot a
fundamentally sound playoff two feet, whereas Oklahoma State is just
they just bully you, they push you around, they get up.
Their offense is that it's still developing. There's nothing really
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special about their offense. Then they throw it up and
they go get it. But I do think there's a
hangover effect to a game in which you're like, well,
we were competitive and maybe we should have done better,
and each individual player, each VINDUOL coach, starts questioning themselves.
You look at the Chicago Bears, I don't think there's
any question that it's not just that they lost to Washington.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
How they lost to Washington.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You get in the plane, you're going back, you know,
your pointing fingers at your defensive back who's celebrating with
Bears fans for the last play, and now you come
out and just the bottom fell out.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I do think Ebraflus is gone. Collins had this weird.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I guess he's called it, but he's been on him
all year about the offense when Ebraflus does not have
anything to do with the offense.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
They replaced the whole offensive staff, and.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You have a young quarterback and young even some of
the best Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman. They've all struggled their
first year and looked horrendous. So I don't know really
what to make of Kayleb Williams, because he did at
times look better last week and looked completely lost this week.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I can only tell you.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That that was if you were like Dan Byer and
you actually put real money on the Bears, you want
to break your TV.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yesterday that was maddening.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
They were so dysfunctional offensively, didn't block for him, and
he didn't seem to see where the.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Pass rush's coming.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well, that's rich Orenberger int a moment though, first let's
get you back to Dan byer get you update on
everything in Sports TV.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
You ed not only drama in Chicago, but also in
New York Giants coming off of that loss in Germany
to the Carolina Panthers. Giants head coach Brian Daball meeting
with the media today and was asked this question about
his quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
The other question I have.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Is if you're paying the guy whatty million dollars, is
it a waste of money if you bench him?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
Again, what we'll do is we'll go back, We'll we'll
evaluate the tape, and we'll make the decision that we
think is best.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
For our team.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Brian Dable.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
They are saying they will evaluate Daniel Jones as the
team's starting quarterback. Jaguars end coach Doug Peterson says they
have no definitive news on the injured shoulder of quarterback
Trevor Lawrence. It did keep him out of yesterday's lost
to the Vikings. Freegent running back Leonard Fournette meeting with
the Bengals today. Former NFL head coach and current senior
advisor for Wisconsin, Jack del Rio stepped down from his
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position after he was arrested on ow white charges. Last
week in Madison, del Rio allegedly drove his car into
a yard after hitting a stop sign and breaking a
fence early Friday morning. In Wisconsin, Kings guard Milik Monk
out tonight against the Spurs because of an ankle injury,
while Pistons forward to sar Thompson has been cleared to
return by the NBA after developing blood clots in March.
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And in college basketball, didn't see the Phoenix in the
top twenty five, but we do see Kansas sitting there
at numero.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Uno.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Alabama comes in at number two, while Yukon sits at
number three. Congrats to Saint John's breaking in the top
twenty five. They're at number twenty two, getting into the
rankings for the first time since twenty nineteen. And then
the women's rankings, South Carolina a unanimous number one.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Dug back to You, Yes, stuck out Leap Show.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Fox Sports rader Rich Hornberger join us in in a
second honest question, Dan, did you watch all Sunday night
football or did you click it off when it felt
like it was over?
Speaker 9 (21:07):
It was actually the opposite. My son at a birthday
party that I had to attend after I did my show,
and so I came into the game at halftime.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, speaking of birthdays, Happy birthday to Big Apple Sam.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Right now in your birthday?
Speaker 10 (21:24):
No, it was like three weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Her birthday is October nineteenth, was it?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Why did pop up on my phone on my calendar?
That's your birthday today?
Speaker 10 (21:33):
That's my niece birthday.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Birthday to your niece, betters day, birthday.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I woke up yesterday. Yesterday is my sister's birthday. Happy birthday, Wendy.
She just won a seat on the school board in Lafayette, California.
And then I had it marked to my calendar. Iowa say,
I'm birthday November eleventh. I had no idea.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
No, you said it was Big Apple Sam. So there's
different Sam in play here, My bad.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Let's get to Rich Hornberger, who joins us. You can
hear in Fox Sport Tradio on weekends. Of course, you
can also hear him on our sister station in San Diego,
but he's co host of Fox Sports Radio's Countdown to
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Speaker 2 (22:18):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Ask you about the Bears, but I want to ask
you from a different perspective. You know what happens is
we talk about how big a mess the Bears are,
should we spend it any time at all? Talk about
the Patriots, who look they're not going to make the playoffs.
The new coach to still trying to figure out what
they got at quarterback. But if you look at the
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last three weeks, granted non playoff teams beat the Jets,
lost the Titans and ot and then they thoroughly and
completely confused a young quarterback in his offensive line. Is
the story solely the Bears or should any of it
be the Patriots?
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I think that you should herald any first year head
coach for any six is because it's tough. The NFL
is really tough. And I know girod Mayo has been
around this game for a long time and he was
a successful New England Patriot. But running a team on
your own, having every single answer to every single question
run through your desk, I mean, it's a lot of responsibility.
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And every single head coach will tell you, you know, the
difference between your first year on the job versus your
tenth year on the job or your twenty twentieth year
on the job vastly different because you need experience to
really understand the whole concept of being a head coach
and how you want things organized. So, yeah, I think
we should give some props to Drowd Mayo and Drake
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may and that Patriots team for doing.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
A nice job.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Then you look at the Bears. Look, Matt ever Flewis
is a new on this job, but he might not
be long for this job. Taylor Williams is, So you're
going to give the rookie a bunch of excuses. Here's
the problem I see for the Bears is this offense
creativity or really synchronosity to what he did with success
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at the collegiate level. And then they're not protecting him
and he's not getting the football out. So there's a
clock that a quarterback needs to have go off in
his head and that clock is broken with Caleb Williams
right now. And then you look at this offensive line
and he doesn't trust that even the players who they're
responsible for are going to be blocked. So he's a
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little bit, a little bit shy in the pocket, and
that is just a recipe for disaster. So they need
to resolve those issues really quick otherwise this is going
to be a very long season for Chicago.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Do you think Caleb Williams has it in him?
Speaker 7 (24:46):
I think Kaitleb Williams could could become a starter in
this league. Right now, he's playing like a backup. He's
playing like a young guy who's got a decent amount
of potential. But I mean, would would you take Taylor
Williams today over Sam Donald? I wouldn't. Would you take
Caleb Williams today over Joe Flacker And I'm talking for
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one season and one season over only over over Joe Flacco?
I wouldn't. I'd take Joe Flacco or Sam Donald. I mean,
those are backup quarterbacks in this league. You know, it
doesn't mean that a backup quarterback can't raise his ability
to the to the starting level. We saw with Baker Mayfield,
who was a first round draft pick, who was I
mean what two years ago was a third string quarterback
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for the Los Angeles Rams and found his way back
into the starting lineup with the Buccaneers. But Taylor Williams
looks a little bit lost out there and looks like
the game's moving really fast for him. But it doesn't
mean he can't get better. But they've got to make
some changes around that offense and and get things a
little bit more in sync with with him and the playbook,
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and then we'll see it flourished. But right now, there's
not a whole lot of good to report on offensively,
and shego.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You mentioned Sam Donald. He threw three picks. He wasn't
particularly good.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Is the clock struck midnight on the Sam Donald Cinderella story.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
That's so funny that you make that comparison, because I
was saying this morning, he kind of looks like Sam
Donald's turned into a pumpkin, right, you know, like you know,
the the glass slipper fit for the first six weeks
or so, but then we started seeing some weaknesses in
the armor and it started looking look like old Sam Donald.
Do I think it's over? I think that the Vikings
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have a pretty good chance of continuing to win, even
in spite of Sam Donald, because I have a lot
of belief in Kevin O'Connell and what he can get
out of that position. At that quarterback position. We saw
with Kirk Cousins, who he seemed rejuvenated by Kevin O'Connell
when he went when he took the job in Minnesota,
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and we're seeing it with Sam Donald this year now.
Waiting in the wings is JJ McCarthy is a one
year fix either way. But I think that if he
can and I'm talking about koc, if the head coach
can tell dam like, hey, listen, we don't need you
to fit the ball in places it's not supposed to be.
We don't need you to take shots when they're not there.
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We need you to operate an offense and be a
little bit of a game manager here and survive this
season for us. If he can get that message throue
without insulting Sam Donald, then I think this could be
a prosperous season for Minnesota because they're still finding some
ways to win. But that it's really going to hinge
on whether or not Sam Donald can be less careless
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with the football because turnovers and explosive plays are two
of the biggest measuring bars in terms of having success
on the season. If you keep your turnovers low and
you gather a bunch of turnovers, you know, defensively, if
you have a bunch of offensive explosive plays, and you
can keep the explosive plays against you down defense, then
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you have all the recipe, all the makings for a
successful season.
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Speaker 2 (28:20):
Have you ever seen anything like what the Lions were
able to pull off last night?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
That was sensational? You want to talk about surviving. It
was probably years ago now when the Lions were on
Hard Knocks. I can't remember if it was last offseason
or two off seasons ago where Dan Campbell was given
that speech. It was like a promo they cut for
the season of Hard Knocks. He was talking about how, hey, listen,
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we'll tread water as long as we need to and
we'll bury their asses. That's what he was saying, and
that's exactly what happened in that game. They were underwater
a couple of times because Jared Goff put them into
some real bad situations. But the ethos of that team
is never say die, never quit. We will continue coming
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after you, regardless of the circumstances. Not a single player
on that football field, regardless of whether or not Jared
Goff was having inarguably his worst day as a Lions quarterback,
gave up on that game. Nobody felt sorry for themselves.
Everyone went out there and did their job and they
rescued the day. They snatched a loss, or I should
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say they snatched a victory from the jaws of defeat,
and that was that was something that very few teams
can do because they just don't have the character or
the characters. The Lions have both. They have the players,
and they have the will and the persistence to get
a job like that done against a really good football
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team in Houston. I have a tremendous amount of respect
for that coach and that quarterback and what they've been
able to do hanging around in ball games defensively and
what they're able to accomplish offensively. So the Detroit Lions,
as far as I'm concerned, they're the best team in
the NFL. They may not have the best record that
belongs to the Chiefs. Well, I think are just getting
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by with a mixture of luck and obviously ability to
make clutch plays in certain moments. But if you're asking
about the best team in the NFL playing right now, yeah,
that title belongs to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Inn Dallas. What do you do?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean, you got dak on a new contract, you
just fire everybody and start over.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
What would you do?
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Yeah? It feels like you probably will see that happen.
And I don't know if that report comes out during
the season or afterward, but that's the plan. I mean,
Jerry Jones had to have known when he started this
season with his head coach on a lean duck year
and resigning his top receiver and his dop quarterback that
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unless this season finished in a Super Bowl berth, that
this was going to be Mike McCarthy's last year as
the football coach in Dallas because of the disappointing finishes
in the postseason. So I really feel strongly about this.
I think that in a lot of ways, why wait,
Like if this is just a slog toward the inevitable,
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why wait on getting ahead of the coaching surf or
excuse me, the coaching surch Like, what are we doing here?
You know, if you're going to fire him anyways, give
him the freedom to reorganize his life, maybe figure out
where he wants to live, you know, in the offseason
while he's waiting for his next job, or what's left
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of the regular season before he gets his next job,
if he wants to work. Remember, Mike McCarthy took a
gap year before signing with the Dallas Cowboys as a
head coach after he was fired by Green Bay. And
then in terms of the Dallas Cowboys, rip the band
aid off, you know, I mean again, we're talking about
something that is an obvious inevitability, and so it's not
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even like, you know, sparing feelings at this point, it's
just business like. This is the business of wins and losses.
And right now we're talking about what a three win
football team that has lost their starting quarterback for the year,
and you have a head coach who was on the
final year of his contract. Anyway, it would be much
more surprising if the Dallas Cowboys announced that they were
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extending Mike McCarthy than it would be if they announced
today that they're letting him go. So why not just
let him go and let's get on the path to
healing this gushing wound.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm with you, rich Orenberger.
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Rich are the best obviously, plenty of AMMO for your
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Speaker 7 (33:01):
Bet, Thank you Doug.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
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at the top of the hour. If you missed it
or have you never heard it before, it's fun. It's
just the stuff that we love the stuff that we
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Before we get to that, let's get to a game
with Dan Byer.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
Hey there day, what you got buddy, Doug?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 10 (33:56):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
At forty nine Ers, wide receiver Deebo Samuel ahead his
hands on the throat of long snapper Tabor Pepper during
their winning Tampa on Sunday, This after Samuel had some uh,
inspirational words for kicker Jake Moody, who had missed three
field goals.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
That's what it was, was inspirational words the air quotes. Yeah,
not exactly inspirational. Uh, big deal, little do or no deal.
I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Like I know, they he made the field goal and
he can just say, you know, like hey, I was
just you know, I just frustrated. But like, are we
gonna do that now? When Deebo has a big drop,
what are we doing? And look like this is one
of those for Kyle Shanahan to challenge. Now, Kyle obviously
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is solidly in his head coach. He's been to a
couple of Super Bowls, like he's the guy's a stud
as a coach. But this is one of those ones
where you're like, there has to be some sort of discipline,
cause after that it just spirals, like just because he
made the game winning kick does not release Debo from
any sort of accountability, which is what I think people
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are trying to do.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Agreed, that's a terrible look, big terrible look.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that Vikings quarterback Sam
Darnold threw three interceptions and a win over the Jaguars.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I think it's you know, he had what two picks
last week?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Again, it's it's all gonna be about he has the
next two games or on the road against non playoff
teams Titans and Bears. Let's see what happens there. Let's
let's see what happens there, because if it continues and
he loses his confidence and it starts seeing seeing seeing
ghosts again.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
We got a problem.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
But I will say that the Viking's ability to battle
through still win a game, that's a big time.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
So.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean, Jared Goff threw five picks yesterday they won.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
We're not talking about the the pumpkin and Jared Goff
are we So it's a little deal right now, but
if it continues, obviously becomes a big deal.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
I can't believe I'm about to read when I'm about
to read. But most of us saw the video on
social media this weekend. Big deal, little deal or no
deal that Georgia's safety Jake Pope was seen celebrating with
old Miss fans on the field following Georgia's loss to
the Rebels on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It's one of those it's a little deal, but optically
it's a big deal. Right Optically it's a big deal.
And part of this is the reality of college football. Normally,
two losses Georgia be out the national championship race. Now,
I don't want to say they're fine, but they're kind
of fine. It's like apparently his childhood friend went to
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high school together.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, hadn't seen him in forever.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Whatever, It's just a really kid took to social media
and apologize. It's just a really bad look. Do I
think it's like cutworthy? No, Even his own head coach
said it's just stupid. Yeah, which I think we would
all agree. This is dumb and looks bad.
Speaker 9 (37:06):
This was the exchange Kirby Smart had with the reporter
on the topic.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Kirby, there's a video on social media of Jake Pope
seemingly celebrating with some Ole Miss fans on the field
after the game. Just wanted to see if you had
seen that and what your reaction to it was.
Speaker 12 (37:17):
Yeah, what an idiot? I mean what I mean, just stupid.
I didn't see it till today. But he's embarrassed about it,
he's upset about it. That's obviously a childhood friend of his,
he grew up and played with there at Buford and
knows him. Hadn't seen him in forever, But just not
real smart. But to be honest with you, I don't
have time to waste energy on that. I mean, you
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know what I'm saying, like, like, my focus is on Tennessee.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
There you go on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I think he's saying it's it's a little deal, but
it's a big deal because of how it looks.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
It's just really dumb, you know, or on a.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
Cincinnati final on a big deal, little deal or no deal.
Doug that thunder big man ched. Holmgren's going to miss
eight to ten weeks with a hip injury.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I think it's a big deal, and I think it's
a really big deal for the way it happened. You know,
all of us said, man, can his body stand up
to the physicality of the NBA. You know, he broke
his foot before he ever played a game, and then
last year with his quote unquote rookie year was really good.
He broke his hip because he tried to block a
shot and got I think got dunked on and then
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fell awkwardly.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
There was no malice in it, with no mousee in
it with.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The Golden State Warriors, but he just he's so slight
he fell and that happened. So yeah, I do think
it's a big deal.
Speaker 10 (38:36):
That's game time.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
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little bit of a cold here, boys, bat a little
bit of a cold so uh it is uh, it's
not yet winter in Green Bay. But to those of
us who've lived in southern California for roughly twenty one
years of our life, it feels a lot like if
it gets worse than this, Wow, No, it's just really windy,
(01:03):
about forty degrees and cold and crisp. And then when
you're not feeling good to begin with, it doesn't feel
any better. You know, when you take the reins of
a show, You're like, Hey, should we dogpile on the Cowboys?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That seems easy?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Should we try and figure out what the hell happened
to the Texans last night? Is Jered Goff throws five
interceptions and they still lose? Should we go into some
sort of what now for Chicago because this really isn't working?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Or will you talk about something that I noticed? So
full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Friday, we played and lost to Saint Thomas University. Saint
Thomas University was a D three national champion in twenty sixteen.
They're in their third year of transitioning to Division one.
We knew they would be really good, and they were
kicking our tail in the first We were competitive in
the second half cut to nine, but could never get
much closer and ended up winning anything about thirteen or
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fourteen points. And you look, when you're a first time coach,
when you played a Power five school and then you
played a high level Division ones, a high level mid major,
and I think Saint Thomas is exceptionally well coached. Obviously,
we had Johnny Tower on their head coach Friday. Before
the game. You know, people know in the industry know,
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and they're like, yeah, your first one's coming. But man,
when you got to zero in two next to your name,
doesn't feel good and you start to fall back on
what have I always known is that the hardest thing
to teach. And we're not even there yet, right We
haven't gotten to close games.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That were to lose yet. We won our.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Scrimmage, we won our exhibition, we've lost our two games.
We haven't gotten to where it's it's close so we
can really figure out what we have to learn. But
there's this thing about winning places in losing places, and
I think.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You all know it to be true.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's like the Lions for fifty years would have lost
that game last night, and the Chiefs for probably thirty years,
especially if it's the playoffs, would have lost that game yesterday.
But the Chiefs have this remarkable ability to do everything
in their power to not win, only find a way
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to win at the end of a game. And the
Lions have somehow flipped the script on their history and
figure out how to win when previously they would always
go into the tank and lose. It's like the most
sports thing ever that you can't really explain is that
just winning becomes contagious.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Winners win and I watched both of those games yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You know, I'm sick on the couch, not feeling great
in out of consciousness. But watch the Chiefs Broncos game,
and there's nothing thing really special about what bo Nix
is doing, you know, just everything is easy and safe.
But they put themselves in position to win the game
on a game winning field goal and it doesn't get blocked.
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And then you watch late at night and that game
should have been over at halftime between It wasn't just
that the Lions were throwing interceptions and not playing well.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The Texas were playing good football.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Here's Dan Campbell, head coach the Lions, talking about how
his defense kept a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I thought our defense played good early. We just had
one play here, one play there that really that hurt us.
But second half you come out and it's you know,
four punts, two picks and a miss field goal. That's huge,
And we talked about it at halftime. We just needed
to get our takeaways. I just felt good about it.
I just felt like he was gonna make it, you know,
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and he did. He stepped up and nailed it. That
was great and his confidence is growing.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Here's Jake Bates, the kicker. I'm sorry. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Here's Jared Goff talking about the five interceptions and the
adversity is team dealt with.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I didn't feel like I was I was playing all
that bad. I was seeing things well. Ultimately, I got
to take care of the ball. But they were, they
were making some good plays and and I think ultimately
like I never lost confidence because I felt like I
was doing what I was supposed to do on on
on most of those plays, and the guys stuck with
me on offense, and I was telling them, hey man,
I'm good, just just hanging there and I'm good. I'm
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gonna have this thing figured out, and they stuck with me.
When you can dig in deep in those adverse situations
and come out on top, it just it just prepares
you for the next adverse situation. You know, it's never
over till it's over. We were in a hole there,
big hole, and they were playing well, they were humming
on defense. I kept giving them the ball over and
over and we fought.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We really did.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, you just you learn so much more about yourself
through adversity.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I will be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
My team, uh, you know, we we get where. It
was an eight teen point swing in five minutes in
the first half five minutes. Same thing happened against Oklahoma State,
and my positive takeaway was my guys fought back that
they dug in, they decided to play defense. We changed
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a couple things and they decided, Hey, we're gonna guard
our man, guard our ball, rebound the basketball, and then
do the things that I asked to them offensively. So
again the takeaway is you really find out about yourself,
about your culture when you go through adversity. That's the
thing about the Lions, right, I thought they gave away
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the NFC Championship game last year. Those are hard things
to come back from because you spend the entire offseason
doing these shoulda coulda would have and sometimes you skip
a step when you're like, yeah, we're actually we're good.
I thought what golf nailed is the true secret to
all this stuff. You got to play better, but you
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can't lose your confidence what you've been doing right, and
that can only come from three things. Yourself within you,
but to your coach and the culture that's around you,
where we're not jumping off the ship.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And then you have to have seen some.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Sort of success through adversity, like the Lions. Winning the
game is great, but even in position to win that
game I think is special. And if you ask any
Lions fan to be like for the last fifty years,
we would have lost that game. It would have been
embarrassment if could have gone away down three touchdowns and
the game would have been over early and the bus
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would have been started at the end of the third quarter.
That's not what Dan Campbell has said, and that's not
what Dan Campbell has done.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You can't point to any genius in terms of X
and o's. He doesn't coach the offense. He's a former
tight end and tight end's coach doesn't coach the defense.
What he has done is he's spread this air of
confidence and a will that if you go back to
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his opening press conference, he said, when you knock us down,
we're gonna get up and we're going to take a kneecap,
and he knock us down again, we'll take the other kneecap. Right,
all of that stuff that was clowned about, that was
made fun of, and I will point out made fun
of by other shows, not by this show.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Because I got it, I understood it.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I lean into who you are, coach, those things and
make them non negotiables. The non negotiables are we are
not giving up.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
There is no.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Score that's going to make us give up, positively or negatively.
And then you look at the Cancaity Chiefs and it's
annoying what they've gotten to. But it's really remarkable how
this has changed. If you think back before the Pat
Mahomes era, and most of it was in the playoffs,
but before the Pat Mahomes era, the Chiefs were regular
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season darlings and the second they'd hit adversity in the playoffs,
they would go away a lot of times at home.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And now it's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They just find a way, find a way, and culture
and leadership is like you know the French phrase, the
jena sequa. It means it certain, I don't know what.
It's something that can't be truly identified. There's not one thing.
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It's just a feeling. And both of those teams who
feel like they're on a collision course to get to
a Super Bowl habit.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's the genes sequa. It's the I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't know how, I don't know how Kansaity keeps
winning these games, but they find new and inventive ways
to do it. I don't know how the Detroit Lions
came off of being having five interceptions from the quarterback,
trailing on the road early and coming back and winning
a game late. But they've done it. That is leadership,
That is culture. That is the Jenisequa. I don't know
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what it is, but winners do win.
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Speaker 1 (10:23):
We got love and hate upcoming. That's so good. Top
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Rich from an NFL lineman. He owns Fox Sports Radio
on the weekends and he hosts his own show in
San Diego.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I do want to talk.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's interesting. We don't need to turn this into Chargers talk.
But does anyone realize The Chargers are six and three
on the year, and again, I don't think they're a
great football team at all.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I don't think anybody would argue with me.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I think six and three on the year. Though, what's
that about? Like that this is a winners win And yeah,
their schedule is easier because they you know, fourth place schedule,
fourth place team last year, got it. But man, are
the Chargers their ability to just be solid win games
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not lose games. There's an NFL expression more games are
lost than our won, and the Chargers are a perfect
example of that.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
A lot of other stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Man, you have Deebo Samuel getting into it with his
long snapper and kicker, and then the kicker kicking the
game winner. You have do you guys see this Friday
Auburn's basketball team they're getting ready to go and play
on the road against Houston, and the plane turnaround because
two guys got in a fight that one overshadowed, some accusations.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Going on in Florida.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Lots of things, and then of course you have the
college football Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
We'll get to the college fall Saturday.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I think in the pod mostly maybe a little bit
in love and hate Alabama goes down to beat LSU
in Baton Rouge on a Saturday night. What one hell
of football win? And we had our gambler picks. How'd
your guys gambler picks do, Jase do? What your mine was?
Old miss over Georgia? That was I thought that was
pretty easy. It turned out to be pretty easy. I
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don't remember your guys gambler picks?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Jase do.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I think you were singing during mine, So I'm not
surprised that you didn't remember it because you were so
involved in the lyrics, Galla, But no, I think I
missed on both of mine, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What were your picks?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Great question? I don't know. I remember Kyle Bohler wasn't
walking through the door, so cal was involved.
Speaker 9 (12:36):
Yes, But I like, how would do this segment when
Doug's coming off of a win? Yes, you know, like
we never do this.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Like I took the Bears and they were they were
embarrassing on Sunday, and so I lost my gambler pick.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Dannon won like six straight games started.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Out six and oh and I don't think I've won
one since I mentioned it on the show. So and
I loved Denver this week, by the way, for some reason,
I don't know. I had been talking about it for
weeks and I thought if the Chiefs were to lose
that it would be the Denver game. Obviously they didn't,
But I don't know why I took the Bears.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Is a real question though, Okay, real question.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, if your team, let's say you picked the Broncos,
and the Broncos for all intentsive purposes, should have won
that game, do we Does anybody want to dispute that
I'm not a Broncos fan. I'm a Chiefs fan and
a Chiefs hater and not a Broncos hater. I'm just
a sports guy who watches. For all intents and purposes,
the Broncos should have won the game. The chances of
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a blockfield goal in the NFL are very remote, fewer
blockfield goals than missed extra points since they've moved it back,
So they should.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Have won that game. What does it make it a
bad pick if you if you miss on that.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
One, No, it doesn't make it a bad pick. It
just shows you again why you wouldn't necessarily why it's
not great business to bet on the NFL and by
the way, that would be a straight up pick, so
you're beginning a lot of value. Which but if you
just packed against the spread, you were safe and sound,
no matter.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But let's say you picked the Broncos straight up and
you're like, I think the Broncos and and you line
out a couple of reasons why you're like, look, Chiefs
probably don't take them particularly seriously, right, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
Short week for Game of City, they got Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Next week, sure, Sandwich game whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And then and then the game winning field goal gets
blocked and they cleared, Like you don't necessarily get to
do a victory lap, and I told you so, but
I do think you actually earned people's respect. You're like,
you know what, you're probably right there. You know you're
right there, Sam, What was your pick?
Speaker 6 (14:40):
My pick was the Mighty Cardinals defeating the Mighty Jets
at home, and yeah they won by twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Five So yes, yes, jetsra j Ets mess mess mess Okay, Dan,
I'll promise you this every Monday now we'll make sure
to recap them because I have taken some l on them.
I've done pretty well in these as well, and no problem,
and like, look.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You guys, would have allowed me to dodge.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
The fact that my team gave up fifty four points
in the first half on Friday like that was embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I appreciate it. We're not gonna duck and dodge that stuff.
We're gonna learn.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We're gonna figure it out. And I one't thing people
don't know is I can't tell if I broke my
foot or not. So we come into the locker room.
We gave up fifty four points in the first half.
Twelve layups, twelve layps, they got us all spread out,
and twelve laps, and I kicked a chair because you know,
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the chair was looking at me sideways. The chair was
running its mouth to me about my defensive concepts and
not knowing what I was doing. So I kicked that
damn chair and I haven't gotten an next raid. It's
the The area is still swollen and the toes are
black and blue, but I have full movement on it,
just a little bit of pain. So I think it
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sounds better if I say I broke my foot, don't
know if it's actually broken.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Here's bro So there you go. Let's get to the bears.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I did watch some of that Caleb Williams was sacked
nine times, nine times. Here's Caleb Williams, the number one
overall pick in this year's draft, talking about the struggles
on offense.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Had about two or three plays and key moments of
situational ball that it didn't click in in my head.
Two was taking two sacks, two or three sacks in
situations where we were able to get a field goal attempt.
And then you know, I put us out of field
goal range, not throwing the ball out of bounds or
over one of my ride receivers heads or dirting and.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
Things like that. And then I think that I think
it starts there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Here's Matt Eberflus, a coach who's under a ton of pressure,
talking about their struggles.
Speaker 10 (16:45):
Well, look at everything.
Speaker 11 (16:45):
I think it's looked from everything from the on the
top to the bottom and making sure that we're finding
the answers to move the ball on the field, you know,
play better as a football team on offense, defense, and
special teams. As the head football coach, all disappointed, accepting accountability,
you know for everything, and then really just looking inward
at myself, and that's what I asked the players to
do too.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Take a good, hard.
Speaker 11 (17:06):
Look at everything and like good complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So, I mean there's no real answers there provided other
than he did say the buck stops there. They're a mess.
And here's the thing that I actually can relate to.
You know, we losed Oklahoma State on Monday. I made
sure tell my guys don't let Oklahoma State beats you twice.
And I think as a coaching staff, you're in the
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same thing. Like our matchups with Saint Thomas couldn't have
been more different. The two types of games. They're skilled
and smart and spread you out, can all shoot a
fundamentally sound playoff two feet, whereas Oklahoma State is just
they just bully you, they push you around, they get up.
Their offense is that it's still developing. There's nothing really
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special about their offense. Then they throw it up and
they go get it. But I do think there's a
hangover effect to a game in which you're like, well,
we were competitive and maybe we should have done better,
and each individual player, each VINDUOL coach, starts questioning themselves.
You look at the Chicago Bears, I don't think there's
any question that it's not just that they lost to Washington.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
How they lost to Washington.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You get in the plane, you're going back, you know,
your pointing fingers at your defensive back who's celebrating with
Bears fans for the last play, and now you come
out and just the bottom fell out.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I do think Ebraflus is gone. Collins had this weird.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I guess he's called it, but he's been on him
all year about the offense when Ebraflus does not have
anything to do with the offense.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
They replaced the whole offensive staff, and.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You have a young quarterback and young even some of
the best Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman. They've all struggled their
first year and looked horrendous. So I don't know really
what to make of Kayleb Williams, because he did at
times look better last week and looked completely lost this week.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I can only tell you.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That that was if you were like Dan Byer and
you actually put real money on the Bears, you want
to break your TV.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yesterday that was maddening.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
They were so dysfunctional offensively, didn't block for him, and
he didn't seem to see where the.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Pass rush's coming.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well, that's rich Orenberger int a moment though, first let's
get you back to Dan byer get you update on
everything in Sports TV.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
You ed not only drama in Chicago, but also in
New York Giants coming off of that loss in Germany
to the Carolina Panthers. Giants head coach Brian Daball meeting
with the media today and was asked this question about
his quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
The other question I have.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Is if you're paying the guy whatty million dollars, is
it a waste of money if you bench him?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
Again, what we'll do is we'll go back, We'll we'll
evaluate the tape, and we'll make the decision that we
think is best.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
For our team.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Brian Dable.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
They are saying they will evaluate Daniel Jones as the
team's starting quarterback. Jaguars end coach Doug Peterson says they
have no definitive news on the injured shoulder of quarterback
Trevor Lawrence. It did keep him out of yesterday's lost
to the Vikings. Freegent running back Leonard Fournette meeting with
the Bengals today. Former NFL head coach and current senior
advisor for Wisconsin, Jack del Rio stepped down from his
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position after he was arrested on ow white charges. Last
week in Madison, del Rio allegedly drove his car into
a yard after hitting a stop sign and breaking a
fence early Friday morning. In Wisconsin, Kings guard Milik Monk
out tonight against the Spurs because of an ankle injury,
while Pistons forward to sar Thompson has been cleared to
return by the NBA after developing blood clots in March.
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And in college basketball, didn't see the Phoenix in the
top twenty five, but we do see Kansas sitting there
at numero.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Uno.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Alabama comes in at number two, while Yukon sits at
number three. Congrats to Saint John's breaking in the top
twenty five. They're at number twenty two, getting into the
rankings for the first time since twenty nineteen. And then
the women's rankings, South Carolina a unanimous number one.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Dug back to You, Yes, stuck out Leap Show.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Fox Sports rader Rich Hornberger join us in in a
second honest question, Dan, did you watch all Sunday night
football or did you click it off when it felt
like it was over?
Speaker 9 (21:07):
It was actually the opposite. My son at a birthday
party that I had to attend after I did my show,
and so I came into the game at halftime.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, speaking of birthdays, Happy birthday to Big Apple Sam.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Right now in your birthday?
Speaker 10 (21:24):
No, it was like three weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Her birthday is October nineteenth, was it?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Why did pop up on my phone on my calendar?
That's your birthday today?
Speaker 10 (21:33):
That's my niece birthday.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Birthday to your niece, betters day, birthday.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I woke up yesterday. Yesterday is my sister's birthday. Happy birthday, Wendy.
She just won a seat on the school board in Lafayette, California.
And then I had it marked to my calendar. Iowa say,
I'm birthday November eleventh. I had no idea.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
No, you said it was Big Apple Sam. So there's
different Sam in play here, My bad.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Let's get to Rich Hornberger, who joins us. You can
hear in Fox Sport Tradio on weekends. Of course, you
can also hear him on our sister station in San Diego,
but he's co host of Fox Sports Radio's Countdown to
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Speaker 2 (22:18):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Ask you about the Bears, but I want to ask
you from a different perspective. You know what happens is
we talk about how big a mess the Bears are,
should we spend it any time at all? Talk about
the Patriots, who look they're not going to make the playoffs.
The new coach to still trying to figure out what
they got at quarterback. But if you look at the
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last three weeks, granted non playoff teams beat the Jets,
lost the Titans and ot and then they thoroughly and
completely confused a young quarterback in his offensive line. Is
the story solely the Bears or should any of it
be the Patriots?
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I think that you should herald any first year head
coach for any six is because it's tough. The NFL
is really tough. And I know girod Mayo has been
around this game for a long time and he was
a successful New England Patriot. But running a team on
your own, having every single answer to every single question
run through your desk, I mean, it's a lot of responsibility.
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And every single head coach will tell you, you know, the
difference between your first year on the job versus your
tenth year on the job or your twenty twentieth year
on the job vastly different because you need experience to
really understand the whole concept of being a head coach
and how you want things organized. So, yeah, I think
we should give some props to Drowd Mayo and Drake
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may and that Patriots team for doing.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
A nice job.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Then you look at the Bears. Look, Matt ever Flewis
is a new on this job, but he might not
be long for this job. Taylor Williams is, So you're
going to give the rookie a bunch of excuses. Here's
the problem I see for the Bears is this offense
creativity or really synchronosity to what he did with success
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at the collegiate level. And then they're not protecting him
and he's not getting the football out. So there's a
clock that a quarterback needs to have go off in
his head and that clock is broken with Caleb Williams
right now. And then you look at this offensive line
and he doesn't trust that even the players who they're
responsible for are going to be blocked. So he's a
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little bit, a little bit shy in the pocket, and
that is just a recipe for disaster. So they need
to resolve those issues really quick otherwise this is going
to be a very long season for Chicago.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Do you think Caleb Williams has it in him?
Speaker 7 (24:46):
I think Kaitleb Williams could could become a starter in
this league. Right now, he's playing like a backup. He's
playing like a young guy who's got a decent amount
of potential. But I mean, would would you take Taylor
Williams today over Sam Donald? I wouldn't. Would you take
Caleb Williams today over Joe Flacker And I'm talking for
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one season and one season over only over over Joe Flacco?
I wouldn't. I'd take Joe Flacco or Sam Donald. I mean,
those are backup quarterbacks in this league. You know, it
doesn't mean that a backup quarterback can't raise his ability
to the to the starting level. We saw with Baker Mayfield,
who was a first round draft pick, who was I
mean what two years ago was a third string quarterback
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for the Los Angeles Rams and found his way back
into the starting lineup with the Buccaneers. But Taylor Williams
looks a little bit lost out there and looks like
the game's moving really fast for him. But it doesn't
mean he can't get better. But they've got to make
some changes around that offense and and get things a
little bit more in sync with with him and the playbook,
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and then we'll see it flourished. But right now, there's
not a whole lot of good to report on offensively,
and shego.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You mentioned Sam Donald. He threw three picks. He wasn't
particularly good.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Is the clock struck midnight on the Sam Donald Cinderella story.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
That's so funny that you make that comparison, because I
was saying this morning, he kind of looks like Sam
Donald's turned into a pumpkin, right, you know, like you know,
the the glass slipper fit for the first six weeks
or so, but then we started seeing some weaknesses in
the armor and it started looking look like old Sam Donald.
Do I think it's over? I think that the Vikings
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have a pretty good chance of continuing to win, even
in spite of Sam Donald, because I have a lot
of belief in Kevin O'Connell and what he can get
out of that position. At that quarterback position. We saw
with Kirk Cousins, who he seemed rejuvenated by Kevin O'Connell
when he went when he took the job in Minnesota,
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and we're seeing it with Sam Donald this year now.
Waiting in the wings is JJ McCarthy is a one
year fix either way. But I think that if he
can and I'm talking about koc, if the head coach
can tell dam like, hey, listen, we don't need you
to fit the ball in places it's not supposed to be.
We don't need you to take shots when they're not there.
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We need you to operate an offense and be a
little bit of a game manager here and survive this
season for us. If he can get that message throue
without insulting Sam Donald, then I think this could be
a prosperous season for Minnesota because they're still finding some
ways to win. But that it's really going to hinge
on whether or not Sam Donald can be less careless
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with the football because turnovers and explosive plays are two
of the biggest measuring bars in terms of having success
on the season. If you keep your turnovers low and
you gather a bunch of turnovers, you know, defensively, if
you have a bunch of offensive explosive plays, and you
can keep the explosive plays against you down defense, then
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you have all the recipe, all the makings for a
successful season.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
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Speaker 2 (28:20):
Have you ever seen anything like what the Lions were
able to pull off last night?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
That was sensational? You want to talk about surviving. It
was probably years ago now when the Lions were on
Hard Knocks. I can't remember if it was last offseason
or two off seasons ago where Dan Campbell was given
that speech. It was like a promo they cut for
the season of Hard Knocks. He was talking about how, hey, listen,
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we'll tread water as long as we need to and
we'll bury their asses. That's what he was saying, and
that's exactly what happened in that game. They were underwater
a couple of times because Jared Goff put them into
some real bad situations. But the ethos of that team
is never say die, never quit. We will continue coming
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after you, regardless of the circumstances. Not a single player
on that football field, regardless of whether or not Jared
Goff was having inarguably his worst day as a Lions quarterback,
gave up on that game. Nobody felt sorry for themselves.
Everyone went out there and did their job and they
rescued the day. They snatched a loss, or I should
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say they snatched a victory from the jaws of defeat,
and that was that was something that very few teams
can do because they just don't have the character or
the characters. The Lions have both. They have the players,
and they have the will and the persistence to get
a job like that done against a really good football
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team in Houston. I have a tremendous amount of respect
for that coach and that quarterback and what they've been
able to do hanging around in ball games defensively and
what they're able to accomplish offensively. So the Detroit Lions,
as far as I'm concerned, they're the best team in
the NFL. They may not have the best record that
belongs to the Chiefs. Well, I think are just getting
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by with a mixture of luck and obviously ability to
make clutch plays in certain moments. But if you're asking
about the best team in the NFL playing right now, yeah,
that title belongs to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Inn Dallas. What do you do?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean, you got dak on a new contract, you
just fire everybody and start over.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
What would you do?
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Yeah? It feels like you probably will see that happen.
And I don't know if that report comes out during
the season or afterward, but that's the plan. I mean,
Jerry Jones had to have known when he started this
season with his head coach on a lean duck year
and resigning his top receiver and his dop quarterback that
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unless this season finished in a Super Bowl berth, that
this was going to be Mike McCarthy's last year as
the football coach in Dallas because of the disappointing finishes
in the postseason. So I really feel strongly about this.
I think that in a lot of ways, why wait,
Like if this is just a slog toward the inevitable,
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why wait on getting ahead of the coaching surf or
excuse me, the coaching surch Like, what are we doing here?
You know, if you're going to fire him anyways, give
him the freedom to reorganize his life, maybe figure out
where he wants to live, you know, in the offseason
while he's waiting for his next job, or what's left
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of the regular season before he gets his next job,
if he wants to work. Remember, Mike McCarthy took a
gap year before signing with the Dallas Cowboys as a
head coach after he was fired by Green Bay. And
then in terms of the Dallas Cowboys, rip the band
aid off, you know, I mean again, we're talking about
something that is an obvious inevitability, and so it's not
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even like, you know, sparing feelings at this point, it's
just business like. This is the business of wins and losses.
And right now we're talking about what a three win
football team that has lost their starting quarterback for the year,
and you have a head coach who was on the
final year of his contract. Anyway, it would be much
more surprising if the Dallas Cowboys announced that they were
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extending Mike McCarthy than it would be if they announced
today that they're letting him go. So why not just
let him go and let's get on the path to
healing this gushing wound.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm with you, rich Orenberger.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
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Speaker 2 (32:51):
Listen live on any of our Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Tradio phil It's the iHeartRadio app presented by bet MGM.
Rich are the best obviously, plenty of AMMO for your
show tomorrow. Thanks so much for joining us, Yeah you.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Bet, Thank you Doug.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
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Speaker 1 (33:10):
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uh we have love and hate from the weekend upcoming
at the top of the hour. If you missed it
or have you never heard it before, it's fun. It's
just the stuff that we love the stuff that we
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Before we get to that, let's get to a game
with Dan Byer.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
Hey there day, what you got buddy, Doug?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 10 (33:56):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
At forty nine Ers, wide receiver Deebo Samuel ahead his
hands on the throat of long snapper Tabor Pepper during
their winning Tampa on Sunday, This after Samuel had some uh,
inspirational words for kicker Jake Moody, who had missed three
field goals.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
That's what it was, was inspirational words the air quotes. Yeah,
not exactly inspirational. Uh, big deal, little do or no deal.
I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Like I know, they he made the field goal and
he can just say, you know, like hey, I was
just you know, I just frustrated. But like, are we
gonna do that now? When Deebo has a big drop,
what are we doing? And look like this is one
of those for Kyle Shanahan to challenge. Now, Kyle obviously
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is solidly in his head coach. He's been to a
couple of Super Bowls, like he's the guy's a stud
as a coach. But this is one of those ones
where you're like, there has to be some sort of discipline,
cause after that it just spirals, like just because he
made the game winning kick does not release Debo from
any sort of accountability, which is what I think people
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are trying to do.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Agreed, that's a terrible look, big terrible look.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that Vikings quarterback Sam
Darnold threw three interceptions and a win over the Jaguars.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I think it's you know, he had what two picks
last week?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Again, it's it's all gonna be about he has the
next two games or on the road against non playoff
teams Titans and Bears. Let's see what happens there. Let's
let's see what happens there, because if it continues and
he loses his confidence and it starts seeing seeing seeing
ghosts again.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
We got a problem.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
But I will say that the Viking's ability to battle
through still win a game, that's a big time.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
So.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I mean, Jared Goff threw five picks yesterday they won.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
We're not talking about the the pumpkin and Jared Goff
are we So it's a little deal right now, but
if it continues, obviously becomes a big deal.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
I can't believe I'm about to read when I'm about
to read. But most of us saw the video on
social media this weekend. Big deal, little deal or no
deal that Georgia's safety Jake Pope was seen celebrating with
old Miss fans on the field following Georgia's loss to
the Rebels on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It's one of those it's a little deal, but optically
it's a big deal. Right Optically it's a big deal.
And part of this is the reality of college football. Normally,
two losses Georgia be out the national championship race. Now,
I don't want to say they're fine, but they're kind
of fine. It's like apparently his childhood friend went to
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high school together.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, hadn't seen him in forever.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Whatever, It's just a really kid took to social media
and apologize. It's just a really bad look. Do I
think it's like cutworthy? No, Even his own head coach
said it's just stupid. Yeah, which I think we would
all agree. This is dumb and looks bad.
Speaker 9 (37:06):
This was the exchange Kirby Smart had with the reporter
on the topic.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Kirby, there's a video on social media of Jake Pope
seemingly celebrating with some Ole Miss fans on the field
after the game. Just wanted to see if you had
seen that and what your reaction to it was.
Speaker 12 (37:17):
Yeah, what an idiot? I mean what I mean, just stupid.
I didn't see it till today. But he's embarrassed about it,
he's upset about it. That's obviously a childhood friend of his,
he grew up and played with there at Buford and
knows him. Hadn't seen him in forever, But just not
real smart. But to be honest with you, I don't
have time to waste energy on that. I mean, you
(37:39):
know what I'm saying, like, like, my focus is on Tennessee.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
There you go on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I think he's saying it's it's a little deal, but
it's a big deal because of how it looks.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
It's just really dumb, you know, or on a.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
Cincinnati final on a big deal, little deal or no deal.
Doug that thunder big man ched. Holmgren's going to miss
eight to ten weeks with a hip injury.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I think it's a big deal, and I think it's
a really big deal for the way it happened. You know,
all of us said, man, can his body stand up
to the physicality of the NBA. You know, he broke
his foot before he ever played a game, and then
last year with his quote unquote rookie year was really good.
He broke his hip because he tried to block a
shot and got I think got dunked on and then
(38:21):
fell awkwardly.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
There was no malice in it, with no mousee in
it with.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The Golden State Warriors, but he just he's so slight
he fell and that happened. So yeah, I do think
it's a big deal.
Speaker 10 (38:36):
That's game time.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
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