November 14, 2024 • 37 mins
On this week's version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday" Doug and the guys go to back the year 1991. Doug welcomes longtime basketball coach and analyst Dan Dakich from Outkick.com to talk about his win and the hoops landscape. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a Thursday edition of "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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of next hour. Got a good second hour for you.
Really interesting what Tua had to say about the tackle
he made. We'll talk more about some basketball with our
guy Dan Dakich from OutKick Coverage. He's gonna He's gonna
join us half past the hour plus we got the press,
plus we got to make our picks on tonight's Thursday
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night football game? Is this the Dona vic McNabb bul right,
Donal mcnable. Do we remember remember when Dona mc nabb,
who of course led the Eagles to the Super Bowl, uh,
was summarily traded in division to the then Washington Redskins.
If that's not a there's there's never been a more
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we're done here. We think you're washed than trading somebody
in division correct, can't think of can't think of it.
And one that's that's more apparent than that. Right. It's
one thing for like the Warriors to like Clay Walk
and then he goes to you know, he goes to
the Mavericks, but to actually trade a player to a
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division rival when there's only three other teams in your quarterbacks,
that means that you're gonna play. That's a we we
think you're done, We think you're washed. And they were right,
they're right. That was a while back, not as far
back as we're going. Today. Is Thursday. A lot of
you guys do TBT when you're doing a hashtag on
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your ig or whatever. We do too. We call it
don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Stug Gottleeb Show, Fox Sports Radio. The impetus of this
was really in the summer, right, There's just so many
good things, and we're all we're kind of getting to
that age where we start getting nostalgic, right, which is
I'm sure annoying if you're younger. But there are great
things to remember, and part of working in this business
for twenty plus years is you get to remember a
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bunch so plus. Honestly, it lets Jason get to his
FM Moe DJ, Like that's the thing I know at
some point in his life he's going to want to do.
Like my thing is like I've always wanted to coach
college basketball, Jase do. I think his thing has always
been like I just always want to do morning shock
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jock local radio. I'll take it from here, Doug anyway,
what's our don't call it a throwback year? We're doing Doug.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Before we do that, let's get to the traffic on
the twos with no no, so don't throw call it
a throwback. The reason why this is Dan's idea, But
the only thing I wanted to implement was don't call
it a throwback, because you always hear people say don't
call it a comeback when they're coming back from something.
So we're going to do a don't call it a
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throwback Thursday. I want to go all the way back
to nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety one. Think about what
you were doing, and think about what the world was
like in nineteen ninety one. In the fall of nineteen
ninety one, these Eagles went to DC and they played
a team named the Redskins Eagles at the Washington Redskins
nineteen ninety one. The Redskins were ten and oh. They
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started off ten and oh, and one of their opponents
that they defeated was the Eagles on this game twenty
three to nothing. If you think about the names of
the Redskins back in the day, Mark Rippen was the quarterback,
Ernest Beiner was their running back, Gary Clark was a
receiver Art Monk. The Redskins would go on to win
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their second Super Bowl, I want to say second Super
Bowl in seven years. The Eagles were coached by Rich Kotite,
who had replaced the very popular Buddy Riot. The Eagles
that year were not led by Randall Cunneham because he
hurt himself in the first week of the season. So
that night, as the Redskins shut them out, they were
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shutting out the likes of Jim McMahon as the BA
up quarterback. Crazy, crazy night, crazy game. The Redskins would
go on to win a Super Bowl. What do you
remember about that NFL season, Dan, anything come to mind?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
You mentioned the success of the Washington Redskins at the time.
The nineteen ninety one year, I think to me stands
out in so many different other sports than the National
Football League. It was quite the star studded event for tennis,
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for golf, and in fact, I would say that the
most talked about game that we have talked about on
the Doug Gottlieb Show actually happened in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Ooh, can I one just interject one thing? It was
a year in the NFL which Dan remembers this. Who
is the first quarterback taken in the.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Draft nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, to give you a hint, Now, I'll give you
a hint.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It was a Seahawk quarterback and he wasn't good and
his brother was great, but at a different sport.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, are you saying, Dan McGuire, Yes, Yeah, he wasn't
the first overall pick.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, No, first quarterback taken. Oh okay, gotcha, first quarterback taken.
Russell Taberdovich, who's Tabradovich was taken the first round, and
then Brett Farv was the first quarterback taken in the
second round.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It was also a time where the obviously Jason mentioned
the success of Washington. They had won Super Bowl twenty two.
They also had to win over the Dolphins in an
earlier Super Bowl, so third overall, but to his point,
second and seven years and you kind of had this
rotating Giants, Redskins, forty nine ers turnabouts during that time,
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and at that point it was the Redskins turn but
it would feel like you'd feel like almost one of
those three teams would end up in the Super Bowl,
and for a while that was the case during that stretch.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Anyway, you're saying, Dan about some of the other sports,
Let's give me the golf. Nineteen on one was so
good about golf.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Golf had had two things. You know, I love to
break down what happened to the majors, but this is
two major specifics. One of them connected to the NFL.
It's when Payne Stewart won the US Open at Hazel
Team One of the great things about that was what
Payne Stuart wore. Payne Stewart had an agreement with the
National Football League where he would wear you know, his
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custom outfits, but they were team oriented. It was so
awesome and when you were in that, you know, the
local teams area, you would wear that team specific, especially
on the final day. Well, on the final round of
the nineteen ninety one US Open, Paine Stuart was wearing
Minnesota Vikings colors because of hey, you're you're in the
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Twin Cities, why not let's get that home crowd decked
out in white in purple. The plus fours were purple
as well, but he ended up going into a playoff
with Scott Simpson. So what do you do on the Monday?
You were a super Bowl specific NFL outfit for Super
Bowl twenty six, which was won by, as Jason Stewart said,
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the Washington Redskins. So yeah, so there is a golf
tie into the football aspect of this, But it was
a Super Bowl specific Navy white and red for paint
Stewart and also in nineteen ninety one, one of the
most popular victories that we've had in golf over the
last I would say fifty years. John Daly is the
ninth alternate won the PGA Championship and the legend of
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John Daly began at Crooked Stick in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Now, you had said that there's a game that we
talk about all the time on the show that happened
in ninety one.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Didn't most talked about game? I think on the show? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Did you ever pay that off? I did not.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
What's the suspense National semi Final nineteen ninety one Indianapolis,
Indiana Duke against UNLV Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And that was the That was the the semi final.
Remember the year before I know you know this, dand
so I'm not pointing out to you for Jason for listeners.
The year before was in Denver and that was in
the final. Bobby Early was sick and he probably is
also sick at how they got run off the court
the give bee bite? Was it thirty or thirty one points?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Thirty? I think it was.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It was in the National Championship. It was they just
got bombed bombed. And then the next year that's at
a Grant Hill, as a freshman and they won the
first to back to back national titles.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It goes along with the Miracle on Ice that it
wasn't the championship game and the Miracle on Ice it
wasn't that was in a semifinal, was a different format
with how they played. There was another game USA had
to play. But people forget that. Duke then had to
beat Kansas on Monday night to win that national champion
and Chip Dean Smith got ejected. Remember in that other
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national semi final. It was because it was the big
story was North Carolina against Kansas, Dean Smith against Roy Williams,
and I think Dean Smith got tossed from that game
that North Carolina lost, led by Mark Randall Jayhawks team. Yeah,
but Duke Q and LV nineteen ninety one, go ahead, Sammy.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So I quickly just want to talk about I want
to bring Iowa football into this because there's some some
things that happened that season. So Iowa went ten to
one and one. Their one loss was at home to
number seven Michigan got blown out. Otherwise, they had a
really fantastic season going into November. They were to play
number thirteen Ohio State on November two. However, the day
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before November one, tragedy struck Iowa City where a disgruntled
graduate student went onto campus and he killed he shot
five people and then he killed himself, and it was
just complete darkness and completely you know, just a tragedy.
Well before school shootings and campus shootings were you know,
a mainstream thing. So Iowa the next day they stripped
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their tiger hawk logo off of their helmet and they
upset the Buckeye sixteen to nine, number thirteen buck Eyes,
and so that was like kind of that that win
of that season, the sort of you know, epitomized sort
of the togetherness of that team just responding after a
horrible campus shooting. And then they would go into a
holiday bull matchup against BYU and suffer a tie to
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finish ten to one and one. But that ninety one
season a lot of heavy hearts there. Did Iowa take.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
The decals off their helmets?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Yes, yeah, I said, yeah, I said, they stripped the
tiger hawk off, So it was just it was sort
of a remembrance, like all black helmets with the yellow
stripe to honor those who had died the day before,
the day before.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So that was that was something I had no idea
that happened. I don't remember that at all, very informative. Yeah,
the Minnesota Twins did win their second World Series in
five years. Then I knew one Twins beat the Braves,
and I can only imagine Doug that the likes of
Dan Gladden and Chuck Knobloch and Kent Hrbeck when they
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had their discmand and when they're on their way to
winning that title, they had a new album by a
new band that would be the launch of an entire
genres something like that. Jim So, a lot of people
give never mind bro By Nirvana like credit for launching grunge.
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I will always defend Pero Jams ten. I think this
was the essential album of that time. Yes, I won't
hear any dissenters of our childhood.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yes, agreed, incredible album, front to back.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
One d P.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Yeah, I was only five when grune really became a thing,
or like four or five. But it's a music. It's
music that resonates with me the most. It's probably my
favorite just sort of style sound of music. We can't
forget this one either. From Pearl jam Off of ten.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know what's crazy about it is I mean, I
I love the I love I mean, I love alive,
I love even flow. Black is a awesome, awesome sound.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Jason, and we're just talking about black great.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Everybody talks about black.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Black's amazing, No fan, Sorry.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I didn't mean to come off like that, but everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But but think about Jeremy at the time, at the time,
and think of the era we're in now, right, I'm
sure it's it's really it's eerie. It's like we always
credit the Simpsons for forecasting what the future is gonna
look like. But I mean, Pearl Jam talking about Jeremy
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and now we've in this, I mean really since Columbine,
which was when I was in college. So this is
when I was in high school in Columbine kind of
shook the foundation of of everything. You can imagine and
how many school stoodents we've had and I don't I
don't remember if how often they happened when Jeremy happened.
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I mean when when when Jeremy was what came out
with this song in this album, but.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, it was it was controversial because of what Jeremy
represented and and that what the song represented. The name
of the title came from an actual incident with a
with a student in Texas, and Pearl Jam was under heavy,
heavy scrutiny and uh scrutiny in so much more. I
believe they were even maybe taken to court because the
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name of the song was named after a student and
the family of that student, Yeah, did not like it
and took action and tried to take action against Pearl
Jam for it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, like I like my like we can have my
daughter grayce on for for this. This part of the
discussion stuck out Lepeawan Foxport Trady by the way, you know,
and I know everybody loves Nirvana, but like the difference
in Nirvana and Pearl Ja, it's so night and day
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in terms of the depth of songs on just this
album and the influence on the entire genre. I don't
think it's even close.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And we can't forget about it. Nirvana smells like teen Spirit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Dude, smells like Teen Spirit is the song right?
Speaker 6 (15:35):
It came out in nineteen ninety one, really a huge hit.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And listen to say really huge hit, and again I
know this is this is one I know sometimes I
make fun of make you seem younger than you are.
You have no idea how big it was. Yes, you
have no idea. It was one of those songs where
just guys like I was like a rap guy, right,
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I was the hip hop rap. I was a basketball guy,
and I would say between Pearl Jam and this song,
it brought me into where I listened to grunge.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I think it most notably also killed the hair band era,
which I was a huge fan of.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
I think it's talked about a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The poisons, the you know, Cinderella's warrants, Motley Cruise of
the World were yeah, lamb rock yep.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yes, I was a sophomore in college. I just remember
I think this was like this, the video of this
song maybe the most popular video of all time on MTV.
I wasn't Losing My Religion, which I think came out
the same year.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, Yeah, come on, man, you get the Michael Jackson thrill.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, I mean, Thrower is kind of a one off,
but like the most played, most popular video of all time,
smells like teen spirit.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
I'd contemd that there, I would, I would, I would.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's a little hyperbole.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I do think there's also something considering. You know, Kurt Cobain, Yeah,
takes his own life that there's this whole other thing
with Nirvana afterwards. Yes, as we look back on it, but.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We were the Riots in ninety one, Riots to ninety two,
Rights for ninety two or ninety one.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Two.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
It sounds like that sounds right ninety two, Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Because there's a Sublime song April twenty fifth, nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I have one sports thing from nineteen ninety one
that I have to get.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
In before we do that. Can we wrap up our
music discussion with I was gonna also don't leave out
Soundgarden released Outshined on Bad Motorfinger, one of my favorite albums.
But the top charting song of nineteen ninety one was
not grunge. It was this doozy from Brian Adams Yeah,
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which was featured in robin Hood Princess eas Eves Yeah
with Kevin Costner.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I really disliked this song.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I love this Songry. I know everything I do I
do it for you was the top song of nineteen
ninety one. This was this song was all the women,
all all the women loved this song.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
For you. I do have one more non sports thing
before we get your sports I mean the the Rodney
King beating in the video was ninety one, all right,
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And and I know there was there's more to it.
I know he was on LSD and and there's a lot.
There's there's a lot to it. But if you grew
up and I grew up, I didn't grow up in
like Irvine or Mission Bah which was like super safe,
super white, like I grew up in Budyo Malmandino. I
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grew up in right in the heart of Orange and
uh bilingual elementary school till fourth grade. But I had
just never seen anything like that. I had just never
And that was, you know, fight the Power was right
around that time with and you just that was it
was a it was like a whole eye opening experience
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to a different world out there that exists, existed, and
you know, I know we circled back to the con
Kaepernick thing in police brutality, but that was a completely
different level of just a different view of life that
I was not even close to aware of. And you're
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at this impressionable age. Was I like fourteen fifteen at
the time. That was nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
My quick sports thing started, the Bulls Dynasty and Jimmy
Connors run at the US Open was in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh wasn't that great? Oh my gosh, Jimmy Connors. And
here's what Jimmy conn Jimmy Connors was a little bit
like a little bit like Tom Brady where people forget
Jimmy Connor used to be hated. He was not a
well liked tennis player for a long time, but late
in his career at the US Open, he went on
this run and there was so much gamesmanship, not just
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playing to the crowd but taking breaks and breaking the
rhythm of his opponent. That was That's a great one.
It was only topped by Andre Agassi when he recaptured
his number one crown at the US Open years later,
coming back from drug addiction and everything else. But Jimmy
Connor's taking over the US Open. That's a great call there, Dampire,
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thank you and uh yeah, somewhere we talked about sports
there on Don't call it a comeback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
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Speaker 1 (21:04):
Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trade. If you
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every day. It's called Don't at Me at OutKick dot com.
He's a longtime basketball coach. He was a tremendous basketball
player at Indiana, where he's also been the head coach.
He's been the head coach of Bowling Green for short
period of time. He's head coach at West Virginia. I
forget how long that that actually was. And he's been
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a longtime college basketball analyst. He's Double D Dan Dakich.
He joins us, your first win at Bowling Green? Where
was it? Where was it?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
I think it was a Division two game against Ohio Northern,
who was actually a really good team, and I remember
it because we were losing and when the game was scheduled,
I'm like, yeah, we'll be to Ohio Northern. No, no, no,
don't understand. But first Division one win was at the
Southwest Missouri Tournament against Maine John c and any congratulations
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crew that congratulations the leather next you kicked their ass
and you were underdogs. Because I was looking, I told
all my buddies got leaves winning tonight. So I'm actually
sitting here and two of them told me, hey, thanks
for the tip. So there you go. I knew you
were winning. You're not losing three in a row. Screw that.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, no, no, no, Well I know you've been there before.
But I will tell you when I didn't want to
play Saint Thomas and because he does a really good job,
and and and because it's one of those games and
when you play it, people don't understand they're really good.
They have no idea who they are, and they play
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such a different style than oklhom State, And you know,
then you lose to a row and you're like, Okay,
now I'm going to road to a team that won
twenty one games last year and a six and a
half hour bus trip. And then we got Province and
then we got Siue. That's also along with Western pick
to win the Ohio Valley. You're like, are we ever
going to win a game?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Oh? Now, let me tell you, Doug, that is true.
My first game was Saint Bonnie. They went to They
were really good. I know, they won a tournament game
that year and we lost close game. My best player
got hurt and I literally I can remember this like
it was yesterday, thinking, man, you know, we got to
play UC They went to the tournament that year, Detroit
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went to the Sweet sixteen that year. I'm like, I
don't think we're gonna win the game the entire year.
That's how you think is a coache Isn't it different?
I mean, people can tell you about how it is,
but man, is it different when you're I don't give
a damn Saint Thomas or Ohio Northern. There's some really
well coached, really good teams out there that your fan
base has no idea. And Western Illinois you mentioned it
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won twenty some games last year. If your fan base
no idea, they just know we're Green Bay blah blah blah,
we're supposed to be you know. No, No, that's the
hell of a win, man, particularly when you said six
hour bus ride, all the ancillary stuff. Let me ask, Oh, well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Listen, I had. I had one of my best players
as sick as a dog two days before I had.
I had to run the hell out of them because
we had a couple of guys. It's nothing crazy, but
a couple guys just in terms of discipline that I
felt like we had to do. Then, in shoot around
my starting point guard, who's like my perfect leader, I
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can get him. Preston Rigger steps on his teammate's foot,
sprains his ankle pretty badly. So we're getting done with
the radio show and I get.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Enough of the leatherneck Phoenix breakdowns. Let's get to uh,
let's get to Duke Kentucky. Your first impressions of Cooper
Flag in a big game environment like we saw the
other night that lost to the Cats.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I think Cooper Flag is great, not good great. I
don't think you know how to use them. I don't
think any coach would know how to use them. They
got them handling the ball. Of course he can do it,
but I think he can go get thirty on the block.
That's as good a prospect as I've ever seen. You
know how I do it. I do it this way.
Could the guy play if he were six foot one?
Like Shack couldn't play if he were six foot one,
Cooper Flag would be an All American first team at
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six foot one. He is great, not good. He is great,
But the problem is he does too many things well
his way back. But when Ralph Samson came out, they're like, oh,
look at him dribble he can shoot, Yeah, okay, great,
But when he's out at twenty five feet. Guess what
that's an advantage for the defense. I think that kid
is great, Holy Kyle. They're just gonna have to figure
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out how to best utilize him for his college year,
not for him to be a guy in the NBA.
If you're an NBA stout and you watch that game
for two minutes, he's the first pick in the drift.
I'm giving him what anybody says. So if I'm Shire
and I'm and I'm I'm Cooper, I'm sitting there going Amen. No,
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we're gonna win this year. We're gonna do it this way.
Everybody knows you're good. You're gonna go get thirty from
the file line down and no one's gonna be able
to stop you. And we're gonna let you handle the
ball in transition. But they'll figure that out and they're
gonna be dynamite and he's gonna be great. Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
We've been we've been following the Caitlin thing, and I know,
obviously with you in Indy you have as well. And
then we see you at the golf turn yesterday and
she nearly decapitates somebody with her with their breakfast ball
off the tee. What happens next year? It feels like
it's gonna continue. Like she's like the Taylor Swift of
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female athletes. Right, But I like, again, you're talking about
Cooper Cooper Flag, right. I think that women's basketball settles
back down to where it had been. I think that
Cooper Flag, along with some of the other big boys
like Kentucky being back, I think college basketball rises back
to its kind of normal level of importance. What happens
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with the w NBA and her residence moving forward?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I think the WNBA doesn't go back to where it was.
I think it hits a level that's higher, but I
think eventually it stays there. So it's been good. But
I gotta tell you, man, honest to god, here in Indy,
you know, she shows up at you know, her boyfriend
McCaffrey's butler game. He's an assistant. The whole place goes nuts,
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and it's like, all right, this is great, but how
long does it last. I think the game has been elevated.
I think they brought in new fans that like it.
It's not only her. I think the finals, that ratings
of the finals were terrific for the WNBA. They were
much better than they had been, not as good as
if Caitlin Clark was there. But I think it stays
at that level. I'm not sure it's going to explode
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in terms of college I'm with you. I feel like
college basketball and I'm not sure, Doug. I feel this
as a fan. I'm not broadcasting, I'm not coaching, I'm
not playing. I'm more a fan. I feel like I've
become one of those that looks at college basketball as
a one month deal. I do, and I don't like it.
And the other night I was rejuvenated watching the Champions
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Classic because I like those teams. I like what Mark
Pope is doing. I like everybody's not playing the same
like they have in my opinion for the last five years,
everybody ran the same offense by the same way. So
I'm encouraged to your point, I'm encouraged about both, but
I don't think you know it. Look, the w NBA
isn't gonna overtake baseball in the Summer's not overtake it.
(28:05):
He's gonna stay at the level, which is a higher
level than it's been. And I'm really hopeful that people
really get it. I don't understand this Doug, you tell me,
how do you How can't you possibly watch football and
basketball at the same time, Like, I don't give a
damn in the Champions Classics. I'm gonna watch it tonight.
I'm gonna watch him watch the NFL.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I don't. I don't either. I don't. My bandwidth extends
to just about that right college on Saturday. By the way,
congratuate real quick, Indiana Hoosiers. Okay, I know what's sharlala
maatter signetty is. It's an incredible story. Yeah, but we
gotta be honest, right, Like they hadn't played the Big
Ten has like well, Big Ten has like two teams
(28:46):
and they haven't played either of them. Maybe they have, Yeah,
the two teams and they haven't played either of them.
So do they have to win out to get to
the playoff?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I don't know. I'm not smart enough. I know this.
This this place is insane, Indiana. The entire date is
nuts over it. You'll understand this is the first time
I've ever bought tickets to any I youth sporting event.
I didn't bother the athletic department. I was watching to
beat the hell out of the courthouse because I said
screw it. I'm taking our bus. We own a bus
with my brother and another couple, and we got this
(29:15):
big ass school bus. I said, look, we're loading it up.
I went online. I bought tickets to the Ohio State game,
and we're going to take eighteen people. We're leaving at
six in the morning. We're gonna be drunk by seven,
just celebrating the hell out of We're going to Ohio
State to watch Indiana play a meaningful game. Doug in
football in November, are you kidding me? I don't know.
The schedule is so awful. I can't imagine any other
(29:37):
Big ten team that at this point in the year
has not played a ranked team. They only played one.
I don't know. I think everybody doesn't know. I think
everybody's guessing because you got the first time, you got
a committee, you got twelve team seven, you know, available spot.
I don't know, but they What I've said on my show,
Doug is this, what's made them really good and exciting
is their play. But it's also their schedule. And you
(29:59):
hope that they're schedule doesn't come back to bite him
in the ass.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah. Last thing, when do I get you to do
a game. We do open the Okay, Chicago, we don't
play in Chicago. We play in Indy.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Like I.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Ram first count, I U, I uh December fourth.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I think I'm in. I'm there. Give me tickets behind
the bench.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'm there behind the bench. You can sit on the bench.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
You don't want me on the bench. I'm bad luck.
There's a black cloud over me, and somebody will get hurt.
That's what happened my last five years. Point somebody will
get hurt. Done I got you know, I won't even
touch you. I'll stand around you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I won't even I've had I've had two starters get
hurt individually at shoot around this year. At shoot around,
one was on a playoff two feet drill just rolled
his ankle out for like a week.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I lost my best player with a twelve and two team.
In a court celebration, my best player towards a c O.
A fan jumped on him, and then my point guard
had to play in one of those you know shoulder
brace great, yes, yeah, And we went from a twenty
five win team to an eighteen win team and the
guy cost himself his career. So I get your brother,
but I'm gonna be there. If you played December fourth
(31:10):
and any my fat ass will one thousand percent be there.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I can't wait. Double d check him out every day. Uh,
it's it's called don't at me. It's not out kick.
He's the one who leaves Dan dockets.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
You get the friars. Man, get the friars. Let's go.
Let's back up a win with a win.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
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Speaker 4 (31:56):
All right, good work, Pradia.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm actually really proud of myself because what usually happens
with me is I get to like third or fourth
place at this time of year, and then I forget
to do it like a lineup one week and then
it gets bad and then I'm like, ah, that with it,
just throwing the hundred bucks and move on. But I'm
surprised all my friends. I've been in this league for
fifteen years, and I am all alone in first place.
(32:20):
If I could stop choking real quick, guys. Eagles four
point favorites forty nine and a half high total for
tonight's game. A little bit of rain in Philadelphia, Dan Byer,
who do you like?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I like the Eagles tonight to win and cover. Jordan,
mylotta is back. I think Philadelphia is back to maybe
where they were close to being two years ago. Washington
a little beat up up front, So give me the
Eagles tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Jase Doo, I disagree, Dan. I think the Eagles will
be grounded tonight.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Wow, you just can Mamanders straight up win.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I think their wings will be clipped.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
All right, Sam? Did you want to pick or fly
Eagles slur?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
All right?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, I I you know everybody knows, uh, Eagles fans,
we hate you, and you're okay with it, so it's okay.
I don't like the four points like, I think everything
I've been told in betting is, you know, like obviously
most games the NFL are decided by less than a touchdown,
so and if you can get you know, a field goal,
(33:26):
even better. So I do like Washington with the number,
but I think the Eagles win. You know, Washington as
good as story as this is and as good as
Jane Denis has been, Like let's be honest, it's against
the fourth last play schedule as well. They've Yes, they
won in Cincinnati, but a lot of people have been
since beat Cincinnati early in the year. They were competitive
with the with with with Baltimore. But you're coming off
(33:50):
a loss. I don't know. I I'm gonna take Washington
to cover and I'm gonna take the over. I think
this is a high scoring game, high scoring game. I
do think the Eagles win the game. Let's get to
the press, the press.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I think it's a tough spot for Washington. So I
really like Philly tonight. But we shall see. In other
key matchups in Week eleven, the Chiefs go to Buffalo
to face the Bills, and Kansas City is going to
be without kicker Harrison Butker. Butker likely headed to ir
because of a knee injury. NFL Network says that he'll
need three to four weeks to recover as his knee
(34:27):
goot scope because of a meniscus issue. Spencer Schrader has
been signed off the Jets practice squad to kick for
Kansas City on Sunday. But no Harrison Butker anyone else.
I'm just leaving the floor.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Open's got to be a massage joke in.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
There has to be. I was thinking of one, and
I couldn't, you know. I wonder if he got any
help from any male or female nurses. I don't know.
I just I didn't have enough time to think of it.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You know, he wasn't hurt mopping the kitchen. No, No,
that wasn't the Curtis. That was I don't want to
be Captain obvious, but and I wanted to leave the
floor open.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I just hope that injury doesn't prevent him from watching
his wife cook his dinner.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
He's laid up on the couch with that, you know,
TV tray and Bell keep setting thee elevated.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Okay, let's get We're good. We're good. We all knew
that we were trying. We're trying too hard. We really
need better writers.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune as a heck of
a writer, and he says that he doesn't believe that
Chicago Bears players asked the front office and ed coach
Matt Eberflus to bench Caleb Williams in favor of Tyson
Pagent Yeah big, saying that he doesn't believe that that
happened in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I don't think that happened either. I just don't. I
do think that they want that The talk who was
it earlier this week was former charger right who said
they weren't held accountable. I do believe that's to be true.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yeah, Keenan Allen said Shane Walder was too nice of
a guy.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yes. The Tampa Bay Rays are playing their twenty twenty
five home games at the spring training complex of the
New York Yankees. Eleven thousand seats. Steinberner Field was located
in Tampa, right across.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
The street from where the Buccaneers play.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Is it? Yes, I didn't know that. Eleven thousand, that's
about that's still about half full, you know, still be
about half full for raised.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Games outdoor baseball. An American skiing great Lindsay Vaughn coming
out of retirement to rejoin the US ski team at
the age of forty.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah. I mean, I guess it's definitely a young person's sport,
but I don't know, it doesn't seem that crazy. I
think you can ski at a high level at forty
and you're just kind of holding on for your life.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I know there's a lot more skill to.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
It and anything from nineteen ninety one, Sam that we
missed or are we good?
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Nope, we're good. That's the press.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
All right, Thanks so much for all the notes. Thank
you guys so much for dedicating so much of the
show to the first win. Tomorrow our own We'll be back.
Gets ready for a great weekend. Doug out the chip,
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of next hour. Got a good second hour for you.
Really interesting what Tua had to say about the tackle
he made. We'll talk more about some basketball with our
guy Dan Dakich from OutKick Coverage. He's gonna He's gonna
join us half past the hour plus we got the press,
plus we got to make our picks on tonight's Thursday
(01:06):
night football game? Is this the Dona vic McNabb bul right,
Donal mcnable. Do we remember remember when Dona mc nabb,
who of course led the Eagles to the Super Bowl, uh,
was summarily traded in division to the then Washington Redskins.
If that's not a there's there's never been a more
(01:28):
we're done here. We think you're washed than trading somebody
in division correct, can't think of can't think of it.
And one that's that's more apparent than that. Right. It's
one thing for like the Warriors to like Clay Walk
and then he goes to you know, he goes to
the Mavericks, but to actually trade a player to a
(01:52):
division rival when there's only three other teams in your quarterbacks,
that means that you're gonna play. That's a we we
think you're done, We think you're washed. And they were right,
they're right. That was a while back, not as far
back as we're going. Today. Is Thursday. A lot of
you guys do TBT when you're doing a hashtag on
(02:12):
your ig or whatever. We do too. We call it
don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Stug Gottleeb Show, Fox Sports Radio. The impetus of this
was really in the summer, right, There's just so many
good things, and we're all we're kind of getting to
that age where we start getting nostalgic, right, which is
I'm sure annoying if you're younger. But there are great
things to remember, and part of working in this business
for twenty plus years is you get to remember a
(02:53):
bunch so plus. Honestly, it lets Jason get to his
FM Moe DJ, Like that's the thing I know at
some point in his life he's going to want to do.
Like my thing is like I've always wanted to coach
college basketball, Jase do. I think his thing has always
been like I just always want to do morning shock
(03:18):
jock local radio. I'll take it from here, Doug anyway,
what's our don't call it a throwback year? We're doing Doug.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Before we do that, let's get to the traffic on
the twos with no no, so don't throw call it
a throwback. The reason why this is Dan's idea, But
the only thing I wanted to implement was don't call
it a throwback, because you always hear people say don't
call it a comeback when they're coming back from something.
So we're going to do a don't call it a
(03:49):
throwback Thursday. I want to go all the way back
to nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety one. Think about what
you were doing, and think about what the world was
like in nineteen ninety one. In the fall of nineteen
ninety one, these Eagles went to DC and they played
a team named the Redskins Eagles at the Washington Redskins
nineteen ninety one. The Redskins were ten and oh. They
(04:12):
started off ten and oh, and one of their opponents
that they defeated was the Eagles on this game twenty
three to nothing. If you think about the names of
the Redskins back in the day, Mark Rippen was the quarterback,
Ernest Beiner was their running back, Gary Clark was a
receiver Art Monk. The Redskins would go on to win
(04:33):
their second Super Bowl, I want to say second Super
Bowl in seven years. The Eagles were coached by Rich Kotite,
who had replaced the very popular Buddy Riot. The Eagles
that year were not led by Randall Cunneham because he
hurt himself in the first week of the season. So
that night, as the Redskins shut them out, they were
(04:57):
shutting out the likes of Jim McMahon as the BA
up quarterback. Crazy, crazy night, crazy game. The Redskins would
go on to win a Super Bowl. What do you
remember about that NFL season, Dan, anything come to mind?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
You mentioned the success of the Washington Redskins at the time.
The nineteen ninety one year, I think to me stands
out in so many different other sports than the National
Football League. It was quite the star studded event for tennis,
(05:34):
for golf, and in fact, I would say that the
most talked about game that we have talked about on
the Doug Gottlieb Show actually happened in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Ooh, can I one just interject one thing? It was
a year in the NFL which Dan remembers this. Who
is the first quarterback taken in the.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Draft nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, to give you a hint, Now, I'll give you
a hint.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It was a Seahawk quarterback and he wasn't good and
his brother was great, but at a different sport.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, are you saying, Dan McGuire, Yes, Yeah, he wasn't
the first overall pick.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, No, first quarterback taken. Oh okay, gotcha, first quarterback taken.
Russell Taberdovich, who's Tabradovich was taken the first round, and
then Brett Farv was the first quarterback taken in the
second round.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It was also a time where the obviously Jason mentioned
the success of Washington. They had won Super Bowl twenty two.
They also had to win over the Dolphins in an
earlier Super Bowl, so third overall, but to his point,
second and seven years and you kind of had this
rotating Giants, Redskins, forty nine ers turnabouts during that time,
(06:53):
and at that point it was the Redskins turn but
it would feel like you'd feel like almost one of
those three teams would end up in the Super Bowl,
and for a while that was the case during that stretch.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Anyway, you're saying, Dan about some of the other sports,
Let's give me the golf. Nineteen on one was so
good about golf.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Golf had had two things. You know, I love to
break down what happened to the majors, but this is
two major specifics. One of them connected to the NFL.
It's when Payne Stewart won the US Open at Hazel
Team One of the great things about that was what
Payne Stuart wore. Payne Stewart had an agreement with the
National Football League where he would wear you know, his
(07:33):
custom outfits, but they were team oriented. It was so
awesome and when you were in that, you know, the
local teams area, you would wear that team specific, especially
on the final day. Well, on the final round of
the nineteen ninety one US Open, Paine Stuart was wearing
Minnesota Vikings colors because of hey, you're you're in the
(07:56):
Twin Cities, why not let's get that home crowd decked
out in white in purple. The plus fours were purple
as well, but he ended up going into a playoff
with Scott Simpson. So what do you do on the Monday?
You were a super Bowl specific NFL outfit for Super
Bowl twenty six, which was won by, as Jason Stewart said,
(08:18):
the Washington Redskins. So yeah, so there is a golf
tie into the football aspect of this, But it was
a Super Bowl specific Navy white and red for paint
Stewart and also in nineteen ninety one, one of the
most popular victories that we've had in golf over the
last I would say fifty years. John Daly is the
ninth alternate won the PGA Championship and the legend of
(08:38):
John Daly began at Crooked Stick in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Now, you had said that there's a game that we
talk about all the time on the show that happened
in ninety one.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Didn't most talked about game? I think on the show? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Did you ever pay that off? I did not.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
What's the suspense National semi Final nineteen ninety one Indianapolis,
Indiana Duke against UNLV Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And that was the That was the the semi final.
Remember the year before I know you know this, dand
so I'm not pointing out to you for Jason for listeners.
The year before was in Denver and that was in
the final. Bobby Early was sick and he probably is
also sick at how they got run off the court
the give bee bite? Was it thirty or thirty one points?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Thirty? I think it was.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It was in the National Championship. It was they just
got bombed bombed. And then the next year that's at
a Grant Hill, as a freshman and they won the
first to back to back national titles.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It goes along with the Miracle on Ice that it
wasn't the championship game and the Miracle on Ice it
wasn't that was in a semifinal, was a different format
with how they played. There was another game USA had
to play. But people forget that. Duke then had to
beat Kansas on Monday night to win that national champion
and Chip Dean Smith got ejected. Remember in that other
(10:03):
national semi final. It was because it was the big
story was North Carolina against Kansas, Dean Smith against Roy Williams,
and I think Dean Smith got tossed from that game
that North Carolina lost, led by Mark Randall Jayhawks team. Yeah,
but Duke Q and LV nineteen ninety one, go ahead, Sammy.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So I quickly just want to talk about I want
to bring Iowa football into this because there's some some
things that happened that season. So Iowa went ten to
one and one. Their one loss was at home to
number seven Michigan got blown out. Otherwise, they had a
really fantastic season going into November. They were to play
number thirteen Ohio State on November two. However, the day
(10:50):
before November one, tragedy struck Iowa City where a disgruntled
graduate student went onto campus and he killed he shot
five people and then he killed himself, and it was
just complete darkness and completely you know, just a tragedy.
Well before school shootings and campus shootings were you know,
a mainstream thing. So Iowa the next day they stripped
(11:13):
their tiger hawk logo off of their helmet and they
upset the Buckeye sixteen to nine, number thirteen buck Eyes,
and so that was like kind of that that win
of that season, the sort of you know, epitomized sort
of the togetherness of that team just responding after a
horrible campus shooting. And then they would go into a
holiday bull matchup against BYU and suffer a tie to
(11:36):
finish ten to one and one. But that ninety one
season a lot of heavy hearts there. Did Iowa take.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
The decals off their helmets?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Yes, yeah, I said, yeah, I said, they stripped the
tiger hawk off, So it was just it was sort
of a remembrance, like all black helmets with the yellow
stripe to honor those who had died the day before,
the day before.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So that was that was something I had no idea
that happened. I don't remember that at all, very informative. Yeah,
the Minnesota Twins did win their second World Series in
five years. Then I knew one Twins beat the Braves,
and I can only imagine Doug that the likes of
Dan Gladden and Chuck Knobloch and Kent Hrbeck when they
(12:15):
had their discmand and when they're on their way to
winning that title, they had a new album by a
new band that would be the launch of an entire
genres something like that. Jim So, a lot of people
give never mind bro By Nirvana like credit for launching grunge.
(12:36):
I will always defend Pero Jams ten. I think this
was the essential album of that time. Yes, I won't
hear any dissenters of our childhood.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yes, agreed, incredible album, front to back.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
One d P.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Yeah, I was only five when grune really became a thing,
or like four or five. But it's a music. It's
music that resonates with me the most. It's probably my
favorite just sort of style sound of music. We can't
forget this one either. From Pearl jam Off of ten.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know what's crazy about it is I mean, I
I love the I love I mean, I love alive,
I love even flow. Black is a awesome, awesome sound.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Jason, and we're just talking about black great.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Everybody talks about black.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Black's amazing, No fan, Sorry.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I didn't mean to come off like that, but everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But but think about Jeremy at the time, at the time,
and think of the era we're in now, right, I'm
sure it's it's really it's eerie. It's like we always
credit the Simpsons for forecasting what the future is gonna
look like. But I mean, Pearl Jam talking about Jeremy
(13:58):
and now we've in this, I mean really since Columbine,
which was when I was in college. So this is
when I was in high school in Columbine kind of
shook the foundation of of everything. You can imagine and
how many school stoodents we've had and I don't I
don't remember if how often they happened when Jeremy happened.
(14:19):
I mean when when when Jeremy was what came out
with this song in this album, but.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, it was it was controversial because of what Jeremy
represented and and that what the song represented. The name
of the title came from an actual incident with a
with a student in Texas, and Pearl Jam was under heavy,
heavy scrutiny and uh scrutiny in so much more. I
believe they were even maybe taken to court because the
(14:47):
name of the song was named after a student and
the family of that student, Yeah, did not like it
and took action and tried to take action against Pearl
Jam for it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, like I like my like we can have my
daughter grayce on for for this. This part of the
discussion stuck out Lepeawan Foxport Trady by the way, you know,
and I know everybody loves Nirvana, but like the difference
in Nirvana and Pearl Ja, it's so night and day
(15:20):
in terms of the depth of songs on just this
album and the influence on the entire genre. I don't
think it's even close.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And we can't forget about it. Nirvana smells like teen Spirit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Dude, smells like Teen Spirit is the song right?
Speaker 6 (15:35):
It came out in nineteen ninety one, really a huge hit.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And listen to say really huge hit, and again I
know this is this is one I know sometimes I
make fun of make you seem younger than you are.
You have no idea how big it was. Yes, you
have no idea. It was one of those songs where
just guys like I was like a rap guy, right,
(15:59):
I was the hip hop rap. I was a basketball guy,
and I would say between Pearl Jam and this song,
it brought me into where I listened to grunge.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I think it most notably also killed the hair band era,
which I was a huge fan of.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
I think it's talked about a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The poisons, the you know, Cinderella's warrants, Motley Cruise of
the World were yeah, lamb rock yep.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yes, I was a sophomore in college. I just remember
I think this was like this, the video of this
song maybe the most popular video of all time on MTV.
I wasn't Losing My Religion, which I think came out
the same year.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, Yeah, come on, man, you get the Michael Jackson thrill.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, I mean, Thrower is kind of a one off,
but like the most played, most popular video of all time,
smells like teen spirit.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
I'd contemd that there, I would, I would, I would.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's a little hyperbole.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I do think there's also something considering. You know, Kurt Cobain, Yeah,
takes his own life that there's this whole other thing
with Nirvana afterwards. Yes, as we look back on it, but.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We were the Riots in ninety one, Riots to ninety two,
Rights for ninety two or ninety one.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Two.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
It sounds like that sounds right ninety two, Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Because there's a Sublime song April twenty fifth, nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I have one sports thing from nineteen ninety one
that I have to get.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
In before we do that. Can we wrap up our
music discussion with I was gonna also don't leave out
Soundgarden released Outshined on Bad Motorfinger, one of my favorite albums.
But the top charting song of nineteen ninety one was
not grunge. It was this doozy from Brian Adams Yeah,
(17:47):
which was featured in robin Hood Princess eas Eves Yeah
with Kevin Costner.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I really disliked this song.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I love this Songry. I know everything I do I
do it for you was the top song of nineteen
ninety one. This was this song was all the women,
all all the women loved this song.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
For you. I do have one more non sports thing
before we get your sports I mean the the Rodney
King beating in the video was ninety one, all right,
(18:30):
And and I know there was there's more to it.
I know he was on LSD and and there's a lot.
There's there's a lot to it. But if you grew
up and I grew up, I didn't grow up in
like Irvine or Mission Bah which was like super safe,
super white, like I grew up in Budyo Malmandino. I
(18:52):
grew up in right in the heart of Orange and
uh bilingual elementary school till fourth grade. But I had
just never seen anything like that. I had just never
And that was, you know, fight the Power was right
around that time with and you just that was it
was a it was like a whole eye opening experience
(19:15):
to a different world out there that exists, existed, and
you know, I know we circled back to the con
Kaepernick thing in police brutality, but that was a completely
different level of just a different view of life that
I was not even close to aware of. And you're
(19:37):
at this impressionable age. Was I like fourteen fifteen at
the time. That was nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
My quick sports thing started, the Bulls Dynasty and Jimmy
Connors run at the US Open was in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh wasn't that great? Oh my gosh, Jimmy Connors. And
here's what Jimmy conn Jimmy Connors was a little bit
like a little bit like Tom Brady where people forget
Jimmy Connor used to be hated. He was not a
well liked tennis player for a long time, but late
in his career at the US Open, he went on
this run and there was so much gamesmanship, not just
(20:14):
playing to the crowd but taking breaks and breaking the
rhythm of his opponent. That was That's a great one.
It was only topped by Andre Agassi when he recaptured
his number one crown at the US Open years later,
coming back from drug addiction and everything else. But Jimmy
Connor's taking over the US Open. That's a great call there, Dampire,
(20:37):
thank you and uh yeah, somewhere we talked about sports
there on Don't call it a comeback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
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Speaker 1 (21:04):
Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trade. If you
go to OutKick. You can watch our next guest show
every day. It's called Don't at Me at OutKick dot com.
He's a longtime basketball coach. He was a tremendous basketball
player at Indiana, where he's also been the head coach.
He's been the head coach of Bowling Green for short
period of time. He's head coach at West Virginia. I
forget how long that that actually was. And he's been
(21:25):
a longtime college basketball analyst. He's Double D Dan Dakich.
He joins us, your first win at Bowling Green? Where
was it? Where was it?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
I think it was a Division two game against Ohio Northern,
who was actually a really good team, and I remember
it because we were losing and when the game was scheduled,
I'm like, yeah, we'll be to Ohio Northern. No, no, no,
don't understand. But first Division one win was at the
Southwest Missouri Tournament against Maine John c and any congratulations
(21:56):
crew that congratulations the leather next you kicked their ass
and you were underdogs. Because I was looking, I told
all my buddies got leaves winning tonight. So I'm actually
sitting here and two of them told me, hey, thanks
for the tip. So there you go. I knew you
were winning. You're not losing three in a row. Screw that.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, no, no, no, Well I know you've been there before.
But I will tell you when I didn't want to
play Saint Thomas and because he does a really good job,
and and and because it's one of those games and
when you play it, people don't understand they're really good.
They have no idea who they are, and they play
(22:36):
such a different style than oklhom State, And you know,
then you lose to a row and you're like, Okay,
now I'm going to road to a team that won
twenty one games last year and a six and a
half hour bus trip. And then we got Province and
then we got Siue. That's also along with Western pick
to win the Ohio Valley. You're like, are we ever
going to win a game?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Oh? Now, let me tell you, Doug, that is true.
My first game was Saint Bonnie. They went to They
were really good. I know, they won a tournament game
that year and we lost close game. My best player
got hurt and I literally I can remember this like
it was yesterday, thinking, man, you know, we got to
play UC They went to the tournament that year, Detroit
(23:15):
went to the Sweet sixteen that year. I'm like, I
don't think we're gonna win the game the entire year.
That's how you think is a coache Isn't it different?
I mean, people can tell you about how it is,
but man, is it different when you're I don't give
a damn Saint Thomas or Ohio Northern. There's some really
well coached, really good teams out there that your fan
base has no idea. And Western Illinois you mentioned it
(23:37):
won twenty some games last year. If your fan base
no idea, they just know we're Green Bay blah blah blah,
we're supposed to be you know. No, No, that's the
hell of a win, man, particularly when you said six
hour bus ride, all the ancillary stuff. Let me ask, Oh, well.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Listen, I had. I had one of my best players
as sick as a dog two days before I had.
I had to run the hell out of them because
we had a couple of guys. It's nothing crazy, but
a couple guys just in terms of discipline that I
felt like we had to do. Then, in shoot around
my starting point guard, who's like my perfect leader, I
(24:11):
can get him. Preston Rigger steps on his teammate's foot,
sprains his ankle pretty badly. So we're getting done with
the radio show and I get.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Enough of the leatherneck Phoenix breakdowns. Let's get to uh,
let's get to Duke Kentucky. Your first impressions of Cooper
Flag in a big game environment like we saw the
other night that lost to the Cats.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I think Cooper Flag is great, not good great. I
don't think you know how to use them. I don't
think any coach would know how to use them. They
got them handling the ball. Of course he can do it,
but I think he can go get thirty on the block.
That's as good a prospect as I've ever seen. You
know how I do it. I do it this way.
Could the guy play if he were six foot one?
Like Shack couldn't play if he were six foot one,
Cooper Flag would be an All American first team at
(24:53):
six foot one. He is great, not good. He is great,
But the problem is he does too many things well
his way back. But when Ralph Samson came out, they're like, oh,
look at him dribble he can shoot, Yeah, okay, great,
But when he's out at twenty five feet. Guess what
that's an advantage for the defense. I think that kid
is great, Holy Kyle. They're just gonna have to figure
(25:15):
out how to best utilize him for his college year,
not for him to be a guy in the NBA.
If you're an NBA stout and you watch that game
for two minutes, he's the first pick in the drift.
I'm giving him what anybody says. So if I'm Shire
and I'm and I'm I'm Cooper, I'm sitting there going Amen. No,
(25:36):
we're gonna win this year. We're gonna do it this way.
Everybody knows you're good. You're gonna go get thirty from
the file line down and no one's gonna be able
to stop you. And we're gonna let you handle the
ball in transition. But they'll figure that out and they're
gonna be dynamite and he's gonna be great. Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
We've been we've been following the Caitlin thing, and I know,
obviously with you in Indy you have as well. And
then we see you at the golf turn yesterday and
she nearly decapitates somebody with her with their breakfast ball
off the tee. What happens next year? It feels like
it's gonna continue. Like she's like the Taylor Swift of
(26:12):
female athletes. Right, But I like, again, you're talking about
Cooper Cooper Flag, right. I think that women's basketball settles
back down to where it had been. I think that
Cooper Flag, along with some of the other big boys
like Kentucky being back, I think college basketball rises back
to its kind of normal level of importance. What happens
(26:37):
with the w NBA and her residence moving forward?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
I think the WNBA doesn't go back to where it was.
I think it hits a level that's higher, but I
think eventually it stays there. So it's been good. But
I gotta tell you, man, honest to god, here in Indy,
you know, she shows up at you know, her boyfriend
McCaffrey's butler game. He's an assistant. The whole place goes nuts,
(27:03):
and it's like, all right, this is great, but how
long does it last. I think the game has been elevated.
I think they brought in new fans that like it.
It's not only her. I think the finals, that ratings
of the finals were terrific for the WNBA. They were
much better than they had been, not as good as
if Caitlin Clark was there. But I think it stays
at that level. I'm not sure it's going to explode
(27:24):
in terms of college I'm with you. I feel like
college basketball and I'm not sure, Doug. I feel this
as a fan. I'm not broadcasting, I'm not coaching, I'm
not playing. I'm more a fan. I feel like I've
become one of those that looks at college basketball as
a one month deal. I do, and I don't like it.
And the other night I was rejuvenated watching the Champions
(27:45):
Classic because I like those teams. I like what Mark
Pope is doing. I like everybody's not playing the same
like they have in my opinion for the last five years,
everybody ran the same offense by the same way. So
I'm encouraged to your point, I'm encouraged about both, but
I don't think you know it. Look, the w NBA
isn't gonna overtake baseball in the Summer's not overtake it.
(28:05):
He's gonna stay at the level, which is a higher
level than it's been. And I'm really hopeful that people
really get it. I don't understand this Doug, you tell me,
how do you How can't you possibly watch football and
basketball at the same time, Like, I don't give a
damn in the Champions Classics. I'm gonna watch it tonight.
I'm gonna watch him watch the NFL.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I don't. I don't either. I don't. My bandwidth extends
to just about that right college on Saturday. By the way,
congratuate real quick, Indiana Hoosiers. Okay, I know what's sharlala
maatter signetty is. It's an incredible story. Yeah, but we
gotta be honest, right, Like they hadn't played the Big
Ten has like well, Big Ten has like two teams
(28:46):
and they haven't played either of them. Maybe they have, Yeah,
the two teams and they haven't played either of them.
So do they have to win out to get to
the playoff?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I don't know. I'm not smart enough. I know this.
This this place is insane, Indiana. The entire date is
nuts over it. You'll understand this is the first time
I've ever bought tickets to any I youth sporting event.
I didn't bother the athletic department. I was watching to
beat the hell out of the courthouse because I said
screw it. I'm taking our bus. We own a bus
with my brother and another couple, and we got this
(29:15):
big ass school bus. I said, look, we're loading it up.
I went online. I bought tickets to the Ohio State game,
and we're going to take eighteen people. We're leaving at
six in the morning. We're gonna be drunk by seven,
just celebrating the hell out of We're going to Ohio
State to watch Indiana play a meaningful game. Doug in
football in November, are you kidding me? I don't know.
The schedule is so awful. I can't imagine any other
(29:37):
Big ten team that at this point in the year
has not played a ranked team. They only played one.
I don't know. I think everybody doesn't know. I think
everybody's guessing because you got the first time, you got
a committee, you got twelve team seven, you know, available spot.
I don't know, but they What I've said on my show,
Doug is this, what's made them really good and exciting
is their play. But it's also their schedule. And you
(29:59):
hope that they're schedule doesn't come back to bite him
in the ass.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah. Last thing, when do I get you to do
a game. We do open the Okay, Chicago, we don't
play in Chicago. We play in Indy.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Like I.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Ram first count, I U, I uh December fourth.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I think I'm in. I'm there. Give me tickets behind
the bench.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'm there behind the bench. You can sit on the bench.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
You don't want me on the bench. I'm bad luck.
There's a black cloud over me, and somebody will get hurt.
That's what happened my last five years. Point somebody will
get hurt. Done I got you know, I won't even
touch you. I'll stand around you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I won't even I've had I've had two starters get
hurt individually at shoot around this year. At shoot around,
one was on a playoff two feet drill just rolled
his ankle out for like a week.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I lost my best player with a twelve and two team.
In a court celebration, my best player towards a c O.
A fan jumped on him, and then my point guard
had to play in one of those you know shoulder
brace great, yes, yeah, And we went from a twenty
five win team to an eighteen win team and the
guy cost himself his career. So I get your brother,
but I'm gonna be there. If you played December fourth
(31:10):
and any my fat ass will one thousand percent be there.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I can't wait. Double d check him out every day. Uh,
it's it's called don't at me. It's not out kick.
He's the one who leaves Dan dockets.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
You get the friars. Man, get the friars. Let's go.
Let's back up a win with a win.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
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Speaker 1 (31:36):
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Also follow rate and Reviewer podcast again you search Doug
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I want your flex Uh I downloaded. I listened to it.
It's Stanbyer's podcast. Danh'm in first place in my fantasy league,
first time ever in this league.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
All right, good work, Pradia.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm actually really proud of myself because what usually happens
with me is I get to like third or fourth
place at this time of year, and then I forget
to do it like a lineup one week and then
it gets bad and then I'm like, ah, that with it,
just throwing the hundred bucks and move on. But I'm
surprised all my friends. I've been in this league for
fifteen years, and I am all alone in first place.
(32:20):
If I could stop choking real quick, guys. Eagles four
point favorites forty nine and a half high total for
tonight's game. A little bit of rain in Philadelphia, Dan Byer,
who do you like?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I like the Eagles tonight to win and cover. Jordan,
mylotta is back. I think Philadelphia is back to maybe
where they were close to being two years ago. Washington
a little beat up up front, So give me the
Eagles tonight.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Jase Doo, I disagree, Dan. I think the Eagles will
be grounded tonight.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Wow, you just can Mamanders straight up win.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I think their wings will be clipped.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
All right, Sam? Did you want to pick or fly
Eagles slur?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
All right?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, I I you know everybody knows, uh, Eagles fans,
we hate you, and you're okay with it, so it's okay.
I don't like the four points like, I think everything
I've been told in betting is, you know, like obviously
most games the NFL are decided by less than a touchdown,
so and if you can get you know, a field goal,
(33:26):
even better. So I do like Washington with the number,
but I think the Eagles win. You know, Washington as
good as story as this is and as good as
Jane Denis has been, Like let's be honest, it's against
the fourth last play schedule as well. They've Yes, they
won in Cincinnati, but a lot of people have been
since beat Cincinnati early in the year. They were competitive
with the with with with Baltimore. But you're coming off
(33:50):
a loss. I don't know. I I'm gonna take Washington
to cover and I'm gonna take the over. I think
this is a high scoring game, high scoring game. I
do think the Eagles win the game. Let's get to
the press, the press.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I think it's a tough spot for Washington. So I
really like Philly tonight. But we shall see. In other
key matchups in Week eleven, the Chiefs go to Buffalo
to face the Bills, and Kansas City is going to
be without kicker Harrison Butker. Butker likely headed to ir
because of a knee injury. NFL Network says that he'll
need three to four weeks to recover as his knee
(34:27):
goot scope because of a meniscus issue. Spencer Schrader has
been signed off the Jets practice squad to kick for
Kansas City on Sunday. But no Harrison Butker anyone else.
I'm just leaving the floor.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Open's got to be a massage joke in.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
There has to be. I was thinking of one, and
I couldn't, you know. I wonder if he got any
help from any male or female nurses. I don't know.
I just I didn't have enough time to think of it.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You know, he wasn't hurt mopping the kitchen. No, No,
that wasn't the Curtis. That was I don't want to
be Captain obvious, but and I wanted to leave the
floor open.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I just hope that injury doesn't prevent him from watching
his wife cook his dinner.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
He's laid up on the couch with that, you know,
TV tray and Bell keep setting thee elevated.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Okay, let's get We're good. We're good. We all knew
that we were trying. We're trying too hard. We really
need better writers.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune as a heck of
a writer, and he says that he doesn't believe that
Chicago Bears players asked the front office and ed coach
Matt Eberflus to bench Caleb Williams in favor of Tyson
Pagent Yeah big, saying that he doesn't believe that that
happened in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I don't think that happened either. I just don't. I
do think that they want that The talk who was
it earlier this week was former charger right who said
they weren't held accountable. I do believe that's to be true.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yeah, Keenan Allen said Shane Walder was too nice of
a guy.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yes. The Tampa Bay Rays are playing their twenty twenty
five home games at the spring training complex of the
New York Yankees. Eleven thousand seats. Steinberner Field was located
in Tampa, right across.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
The street from where the Buccaneers play.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Is it? Yes, I didn't know that. Eleven thousand, that's
about that's still about half full, you know, still be
about half full for raised.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Games outdoor baseball. An American skiing great Lindsay Vaughn coming
out of retirement to rejoin the US ski team at
the age of forty.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah. I mean, I guess it's definitely a young person's sport,
but I don't know, it doesn't seem that crazy. I
think you can ski at a high level at forty
and you're just kind of holding on for your life.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I know there's a lot more skill to.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
It and anything from nineteen ninety one, Sam that we
missed or are we good?
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Nope, we're good. That's the press.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
All right, Thanks so much for all the notes. Thank
you guys so much for dedicating so much of the
show to the first win. Tomorrow our own We'll be back.
Gets ready for a great weekend. Doug out the chip,
wos word training
Speaker 5 (37:06):
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