November 14, 2024 • 36 mins
Doug talks about his first collegiate win as a head coach as his Green Bay Phoenix beat Western Illinois Wednesday night. Doug welcomes friend and long-time hoops analyst Jeff Goodman onto the show to talk about his first win. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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There's a lot of people, a lot of friends all
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phones last night and I'm getting text and thanks and
congratulations Veto. I know you did that, but I truly
truly appreciate it. This is the Doug gottlie Show on
Fox Sports Trading. We are going to talk about the
Eagles Commander's game tonight, which is going to have a
slightly bigger viewing audience than the Green Bay game versus
Western It's slightly bigger, slightly bigger, but I don't know
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if anybody can get more joy from it. And it's
interesting because the reality is that when you're going through it.
We were up twenty one and a half twenty three
early on the second half, and then I had to
start a freshman, true freshman point guard eighteen years old.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is he's been tweety.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He Australian as he likes to say, not Australian, Stralian,
and he was fantastic and he had to start because
and I told Sam this after we went off air,
that my starting point guard sprained his ankle.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And shoot around, we're the worst shoot around team ever.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Like I like to go and get the guys going
up and down, but like we're not like going five
on five full Mortal Kombat or anything. And we just
went up and down to work on some transition stuff
and he stepped on his teammate's foot sprained his ankle badly.
I'm like, oh my goodness, what else is gonna go wrong?
Because two weeks ago in our exhibition game, Foster Wonders
sprained his and a drill we do every single day,
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that's just a it's basically like a layup drill. Anyway,
I wasn't thinking during the game about maybe a little
bit about a it's the first win. It's I know
how hard these things are. To get and nothing is
better than yesterday when we're up twenty three and then
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all of a sudden, it's thirteen points, and I'm like, oh,
are we gonna just choke away this game with dumb stuff?
Like one player passed to another player who wasn't even
looking and they go down and lay the ball in.
Like we're up seventeen points, just hold on in value
the basketball? What are you doing? And you start to
realize it's the old oh act, Like you've been there before.
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They've never been there before. I had two true freshmen
and a nineteen year old sophomore, and those guys played
a combined I don't know one hundred and ten minutes
or so, but I do have a secret weapon. His
name is Anthony Roy. He's a fifth year senior. He's
originally from Oakland, California.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And yeah, he was pretty good. Here's ant with a layup.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Anthony Roy, crossover, dribble, clear, pat to the basket.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Roy layup good.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Anthony Roy with that quick first step, just crossed over
the defender and was able to get to the basket
and lay it in.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Roy's now got seventeen.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, he had fifteen at the half.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He ended up with thirty five, and I think this
was when he got to thirteen, he just said kind
of like, you give me the ball, and this is
really good coaching right.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Here, and off pass goes to Anthony Roy Roy deep three,
got it.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Anthony Roy hits his seven three.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He's got twenty seven of the game in the Phoenix
back up by sixteen, seventy to fifty four as we
go under nine minutes remaining in the game.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
See what he did there.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Listen, Jay Stoo, Sam, Okay, Dan, that's really good coaching, right,
give him the ball. Lookay, Anthony, just hear your things.
Bet did again?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You did that? Dode again.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Actually the last twenty hitio at eight, he's right in
front of me and he's kind of going into his
James Harden dance and I go, no, aunt and he
he shot one with a guy right in his face
and he makes it and he smiled. He goes okay,
So yeah, it was. It was pretty awesome. Here's the
final call to win.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
How is it done?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Tonight?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Easy?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Anthony Roy through the Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
On his back and put up thirty five points for
the Phoenix eleven to fifteen, shooting eight of twelve from
behind the arc and five of five from the free
throw line went along with eight rebounds and a pair
of assists for green Bay. So green Bay improves the
one and two on the season. Western Illinois falls to
one and two on the season. Green Bay takes down
Western Illinois eighty seven to seventy three.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So the buzzer sounds and you're it''re a little bit
like Bobby. You're like, what do I What do I do?
Where do I go?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And I knew I was gonna get the water shower
right And they're like unloading liquid death cans because we
with Liquid Death is one of our sponsors, unloading liquid
death cans into these Gatorade bottles, and I can see
it happening, and you know, then the assistant coaches like
hold you up and then you walk in. They you
can see this stuff on Twitter or ex whatever you
(05:24):
want to call it now. And so they got me
with the water bottles. I was super wet, and one
like you're already hot. It's cold in the gym. Now
it's really cold.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And then.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Jerry Smith, who played at Louisville, he just got done
playing professionally in one of our coaches he had the
gatorade jug full and like I didn't see that one
coming and then I got completely dumped on.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It wasn't like was it Bill self?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They missed the gatorade jug with Hunter Dickinson through the
Gateoray jugg and missed him. They got me full on
and then you know, I got a little little thinning
up top, so there's not a lot of hair to
catch that water. That was that was cold, but it
felt it felt really good, felt really and uh to
all you guys, Dan, I saw you tweeting.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Jay stew you put on ig Sam you don't care,
So there was no even mention he really does care.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
I know, I know I reposted your uh you're getting
soaked in the locker room at the celebration, it looked
like that that gatorade that gatory container was pretty cold.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was really cold because I think really coold because
I was jumping up a deck.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Look that is cold.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Who's your super tall guy on the on the team.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's Isaah Miranda.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Yeah, he he got a little on the leg and
he was like whoa.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah it was it was it was chili. It was chili,
but there was and then you know. I FaceTime my son.
That was really cool and he's he was just you know,
like you just you know, you don't want to be
the one, you know what like thet we play on
TV on Saturday on f S two and you don't
have to be like oh and three, I just get
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it over with, like win a game and then to
win a road game against a good team like that
was cool.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Sorry, Dan, go ahead, No, I was gonna say.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
I loved your message to us in the group chat
after the win pregame lift is so key, preme lift.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, I just I had so I had, so here's
and I we'll talk about this more in the pod.
But I am not a great sleeper now like I'm
I'm somebody I am a great sleeper, but I'm not.
I can fall asleep anywhere anytime for a very short
period of time and feel rested up and go like
I'm a great airport sleeper, airline, sleeper, train bus, whatever,
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like I'll get a quick twenty minutes hour whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, But I woke up yesterday morning at like and
I was still kind of sick and I was getting
over it, and I took some I think I just
took some night quill at like I don't know, It's
like ten, and I went to my room and I
popped with my laptop and I was watching some stuff
and we're be on some notes and then I'm watching
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some games and I fell asleep, and ten's.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Very pretty early for me.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And at like three am, I woke up and I
couldn't go to sleep, and I was like, people say
all the things, but really I thought I missed something,
you know, because I was convinced in my mind, and
like my coaching staff were like, we can win this game.
And truthfully, most people would have told you, don't schedule
that game. West jill Noi is really good. Last year
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they beat the heck out of us. I wasn't the coach,
but we were a good team to beat the heck
out of us at our place. And like going to
West Jill Noi six and a half hour bus trip,
had a couple guys sick, had a guy hurt. Like
that's a bad schedule because they're picked to win their
league in the Ohio Valley, which is consider a better
league than our league, and they just beat San Jose
State and we just lost to Saint Thomas at home
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and we were bad defensively, and I woke up going
like I'm missing something. I'm screwing it up because the
Saint Thomas game, we have a coach on our team
who was a Saint Thomas assistant, and we kind of
overthought the thing, you know, where it's like, ah, this
is what we're gonna do, and like turns out the
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simplest thing just is the right thing. And I remember
going to sleep thinking like, I think we can win
this game. I think we have a good plan. I
think it's the way it is right, like you have
like a vision, not just a positivision, but a vision
for how it's gonna go. And then I woke up
a kind of not in a panic, but just like
like I'm missing something. I don't know, Dan, have you
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ever had that when we're doing Dan Patrick or Jay
stew when you're doing Dan Patrick and you know we
got to be here early and you wake up at
like three thinking it's five, and then you work at
three thirty thinking it's five, and you're like you're just
in a panic, thinking you're you're gonna oversleep, and because
of it, you don't access.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
It right then you have dreams that you ever slept. Yes, yes,
I used.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
To have it all the time when I did Mike
and Mike in the morning, because I was like, oh
my god, I'm an oversleep for this about the time
as the biggest radio show in sports radio. So I'm
laying there and I'm looking at our scanning report and
I'm watching video and I'm driving myself crazy. I'm like, Okay,
what am I missing? I'm missing something? And so I
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was really tired, and I hadn't been working out a
bunch and then you know, you get to your day
and Western Illinois their arena. It's just like a big building.
It's got a track, it's it actually looks cool, but
if you if you walk in from outside, it's just
kind of one big building. And there's a weight room
in it as well. And I remember walking out from
shoot round going, I want to lift some weights today.
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So I stopped by when the team goes in and
I asked the strength coach do you mind if I
lift weights before our game?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
He's like, no problem.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So I went in there, I did buys, I did tries,
I did shoulders, and I came out and that's apparently
now my routine. So I got to find something for
the rest of I guess ever, or until we lose.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Well, I'll tell you one thing that I did notice
the gunshow.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
What's ahead the gun show?
Speaker 8 (11:01):
The gun show was definitely one, but no, you took
a time out in the second half to make sure
it wasn't going to get away from you. Now, it
was a different scenario in the Oklahoma State game where
you thought the guys could maybe play it out and
then it kind of got away from you as the
Cowboys pulled away at that point. But there was a
point where I think Western maybe closed to fifteen or thirteen. Yeah,
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it was a couple of a couple of quick buckets,
and you immediately took the timeout. Yeah, and it was
a good, good time out, by.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
The way, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, you know, there's a timeout every four minutes, So
at sixteen under, twelve under, eight under, there's a timeout.
And at Oklhoma State, what I got caught up with
was the I thought it was going to be close,
that we just missed a couple of good shots, and
it was like eight and I remember looking up and
I can't remember if it was like twelve thirty two
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to go in the second half, and I'm like, we
have the ball, let's just get through it. We'll foul
the next possession, and it ended up snowballing on me.
And by the time time you get to that time out,
it's it's too late, and you're you're It's like my
buddy Brian Naught, he was a high school coach, and
he texted me after the game. You know, you know
you don't get to take those with you when you die. Sure,
(12:12):
thanks dude, I know, but he's right right, like, you know,
use it. But yes, I felt much more comfortable. There's
a what's called a use it or lose it time
out in the first half. You know, you get one
time out for only the first half, and I save
that for we got the last possession and we ran
a play and again that's another thing like you start
to become you start to understand why coaches are so
(12:33):
like neurotic about stuff. Like we're up twenty one, so
we're in a good place and we run a play
and it works perfectly, and we faked our best player
and our second best maybe best kind of all around
basketball player, Marcus Hall. He goes in to shoot a
layup and he just misses it at the buzzer. So
the timing was perfect. We took the last possession, we
got the shot as the buzzer goes up, blah blah,
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but we missed the layup, and like, and you're thinking
to yourself, don't be neurotic and think that's going to
be the difference in losing the game. But sometimes that's
the differencen winning and losing the game. It's just like
you go back, You're like, we just made that lamp.
It was just twenty three points. But yes, I appreciate
you noticing the quick time out.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
You know, you know, you want to know what else
I noticed, but not going to name names.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Midway through the second half, he subs someone in they
were not giving you the production. They're taking the shot
selection that you liked, and the about two minutes later
they were back.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
On the bench.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah. Well it just it had me.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
It happens.
Speaker 8 (13:30):
I'm not I didn't want to put the player throw
them out like us, but you just had a couple
of poor minutes and you're all right, we need to
switch it up, get them out of there.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So yeah, because again it can get away from you
really really quickly. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
What's his name? Why am I David Blatt?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I remember David Blatt was when he was coach of
the Cleveland Cavaliers before you know, Lebron got him fired.
David Blat famously said, like you're like a fire pilot.
You're making all these different decisions, and you really are,
you know, because part of it is you're trying to
manage the whole program, right you have to well, you
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got to win the game, and that's your main focus.
You also you're trying not to kill these kids confidence
because like Saturday, I may need that same player, you know,
And then you're trying to also tell all these other
people that they have a chance to play, and you
don't want to be the coach that pulls you out
for one little mistake. On the other hand, like I
always tell these guys in the bench, like, look, all
the answers to the problems are already being they're already
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trying on the floor. If you screw, If you scrub
because you miss a shot, that's fine, But if you
scrub because you don't do something mentally that the answers
were provided for you one in the sky report and
what you're watching, that's on you and I gotta get
you out for that.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And that's what happened. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I appreciate you guys all the mentions, and yeah, the
gun show was on display. That's going to be a
until we lose. I guess that's going to be a
pregame ritual. And we got out with a dub.
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
Credit. You know you just you give Lebron James credit.
He deserves it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
My comments, which many of you seen on Instagrams, are
are critical of of not just the Lakers or of
Rich Paul, but Lebron's kind of handling of his son.
It's not I don't feel like having him only play
home games in the G League is going to help
him truly develop. But I do think that Lebron James
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can be doing amazing things at his age and still
be a little bit too much a daddy ball bad
basketball parent. All at the same time, being a bad
basketball parent does not necessarily mean your a bad parent.
And as I stated, if you actually listen to what
I said yesterday, I think he's a really good parent.
Obviously his supportive dad who only wants the best for
his son. But just because you think your son is
(16:34):
an NBA player doesn't mean he's an NBA player. Every
kid whose dad, if I've talked to every kid's dad,
there's that I have in scholarship, I have thirteen of them.
My guess is nine or ten of them think their
son's an NBA player. The only difference is Lebron is
one of the greatest players of all time, but that
doesn't change the evaluation of his son. Hey, quick question
(16:55):
about Tampa. So they're going to play at the spring
training side of the Yankees, right, Yes, they're going to
redo the Dome.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
They're going to redo.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Well, they were approved to have fifty five million dollars
in funding and it would be ready for twenty twenty six.
The new stadium, I believe could be ready. They still
have to approve the financing for that. That's still a
couple of years away.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So it doesn't make sense, like why not just start
to take the fifty five million that's approved and start
the project for the new stadium.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, it very well could be, but I don't know
the ins and outs.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'man just like it's like one of those things like,
let's make some sense to spend fifty five million dollars
on a place we're going to play for like a
year and then and then not play there anymore.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Well, especially on the heels of the A's playing in Sacramento.
But I don't know if they love the idea of
them playing at Steinbredderfield for three years. But if the
A's are playing somewhere in Sacramento on a minor league field.
You know, I don't see the difference anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you. This is the
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Speaker 3 (18:20):
Jeff, how are you?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Congrats? Congrats the first win. How did you celebrate last night?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I got doused with liquid death water, and then we
went to Buffalo wall Wings and Macomb, Illinois, and then
we bussed to Saint Louis and I slept for like
two and a half hours, and then I flew to Providence,
Rhode Island, so not far from from your home area.
As we get ready to play the Friars on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Oh you get the Friars. They've struggled a little bit.
But can I I need to ask you a couple
of questions, Yes, number one, Yes, how did you find
did you find Anthony Royd? Like? Where did how did
we get this kid? And how good is he as
good a shooter as obviously his numbers would like where
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would you put him among the best shooters you've seen
been around, played the games, played with whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I've never say anything like what he's been able to do. Wow,
we had an exhibition game. Do you know we didn't
We didn't broadcast it. We played an exhibition game against
Saint Norbert, Saint Norbert's Division IREI school. Gary Gresh does
a really good job. Last year they nearly beat nearly
beat us at Green Bay, and he made twelve three
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pointers in a row like I've never I've never seen
that before. The NBA record is ten and the distance
and he's not he's not your classic like catch.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
He's a scorer who is a great shooter.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, and by that, I mean it's he's got like
a little James Harden to well, he can do more
than that. But it's also like he gets it and
he doesn't always catch and shoot it, like he has
all these different kind of like subtle moves to the left,
triple to the right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I created his own shot.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So how do you find him? How did you find him?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And no, I'll give credit to David Archibald, who's one
of my assistants. But he played at right down the
street from Oklahoma State at an HBCU. They played for
the ani I A championship last year. And uh, he
played for a friend of mine named Chris Wright at
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Langston University. Now he's well traveled, as many of these
guys are.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
He is.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
We're actually his sixth school.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And uh, he started San Francisco, he went to College
Southern Idaho. Then he went to I forget the I
forget the college maybe like Three Rivers or something, but Yakoma.
And then you know, he was at New Mexico State
when that was a whole mess two years ago. And
and then he went to Langston last year. He was
an na A a American And when we when we
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got him or when we were recruiting him, arch was like,
coach is how he does? Coach, I got a guy
and he knows, like that's always my thing. Like I
got a dude for him and he's like Anthony was like,
oh I know, Anthony run Like he played for Langston
last year, He's like, yeah, he's like coach, I was like,
well he was good. He's like, no, he's really so
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we and and the way it works is you call
like everybody and you're like, what's the deal, and everybody
I talked to just like he can be so good.
He just there's a couple of things he needed to adjust.
And he's been with us since day one the summer,
and we we we butted heads a little bit over
the mid range because I have a rule. You can
take mid range shots, you better make them. And so
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all of those moves. Now he just started to extend
his range, extend his range, extend his range. And he's
a straight A student right now. He's doing awesome and
he's unbelievable and like the shots he's making are not
easy shots. It's not like he's it's not like I'm
running all these actions like he just you just have
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to get him in space.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And he's a very good power.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
He's he's a very good pastor as well, and he
wants to pass like this total was all screwed up
last night.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
He probably had five or six and they gave him
like two.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
So how cool was it?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
How cool was it though, because again, this road for you,
I know this, A lot of people don't. This road
for you to become a division one head coach wasn't easy,
and you took a lot of you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Listen to me.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I know that there are plenty of people in the
coaching profession, in the media profession that for the last fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Years have laughed at me. I know it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And there's an expression that there's a saying that I
love and it goes like this, if he weren't laughing
in your dreams, they're not big enough.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And you know, I know there's plenty of butter.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
You know, and I had I love you for this,
and and and again I've told everybody this. People just
people don't know you, like people. A lot of people
don't know you when they judge you. And I think
a lot of people judge you on this one. Like
I had somebody ask me today, They're like, how is
he doing this? How is he doing both jobs? And
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I'm like, trust me, I've been around Doug. If there's
anybody that could figure this thing out, it is you. Now,
It's gonna take some time for you to figure it
out exactly like you want to be able to do.
But like you, listen, you're I say it all the time.
I think you're like a savant when it comes to basketball.
I do. And I think you're great with people, You're
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great with kids. You're gonna figure this thing out. Obviously,
you know it's your one. You need more talent overall.
But I'm proud of you, man, I'm happy for you
that you got this one under your belt. Now you
can breathe a little bit, relax and uh and go
get you know, maybe you get the friars.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
About the friars call it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I do think that it's like you, what you learn
is sort of what you know. You have to manage people, right,
we're all in the people business radios to people business.
You manage a company, right, you and you and your
co founder, you guys managed Field of sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right. You have to manage people. It's first thing. You
have to manage your time.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But you also, and this is a mistake that I've
seen lots of coaches do. You can't do everything that's right.
You can't do everything. If you do everything, then no
one else gets to coach, no one else gets to grow,
no one else feels really really empowered it. And one
of the great things about this kind of experiment that
(24:38):
people think it's really interesting. Like Coach Prime Dean Sanders
has he has like a reality show. Doesn't he has
like a like a talk show like weekly? Doesn't he
like that doing a TV show. There's a lot more
that goes into it than I think that just talking about.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Sean Miller has a show now that he's doing not
just his radio show every week, but he's got another
hard knocks type show. So like there's a lot of
stuff that guys are doing behind the scenes, let's face it,
with social media and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Doubt, but like the point is the point is this
I as you know, I was around Mike Boyd and
last last year and Mike continues to be a friend
and somebody who I view as someone who's led me
in this profession. And by the way, he is one
of the biggest uh protagonists for air fighters, Like he
was like you get air fire, changed your life, and
(25:29):
I am mister airfrier. Now by the way, I should
I should have some nil with my ninja airfighter. But
but I do think that Mike, he he was there,
he wanted to be for every workout. He wanted to
be in every film session and in every discussion and
part of offense and part of defense. And you can't
(25:52):
do it because what happens is then guys are scared
to And so I mean this, like Damon Archibald is
my defensive coordinator. Like I don't always agree with the coverages,
and I watch all the same film okay, but he
decides if we go over, we go under, and he
has to work with the staff and we do all
the scouts together. But when we come to a decision,
(26:13):
like they come to a decision, like I'll go with
it now. I will change some stuff if I see fit,
but I really empower them. Jordan McCabe, Well, you know
he's twenty six years old, but he's the most mature
twenty six years old. I've a twenty six year old
coach I've ever met. So I have him design all
the workouts, and I approve some stuff. I tell him
basically what I want, and occasionally I'll I'll come and
say let's change some stuff. But you have to, like
(26:35):
if you manage people, you have to let them do
their thing.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And it's no.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Different than what we do on radio, like I don't
tell Dan Bayer what to do with game time. I
don't tell him what subject. Like Dan Buyer's been doing
this for longer than I have. He knows he's doing
he's really good at it. And by the way, he
can't grow.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Its higher help them if they're young, Jordan mccabee, of
course you're going to try to help them learn, because
that was you what one point, whether it in coaching
and radio whatever at ESPN. But but ultimately, you've got
to delegate. If you don't delegate, you cannot micromanage uh
(27:13):
and and do it all these days. You can't. You
have too much. You got to do nil. You got
to coach, you got to prepare for for providence. You've
got to talk to these kids and build relationships with them,
because otherwise, no matter what you draw up, no matter
what you do, if they're not.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
If they don't if they don't listen, if they don't
trust you, if they don't trust you, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter how good the play is, it doesn't
matter how good the plan is, doesn't matter how good
your talent is. If they don't trust you, if they
don't believe in what you're doing. It doesn't matter. And
so yeah, I mean like and it's all a learning
(27:52):
thing for me. I'm dan Byer pointed out, like I
kicked myself at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We were close.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They went on a run roll in the second half
and I was thinking the TV timeouts coming and I
balked at a time out and there was five more
points scored and the game was kind of lost right then,
Like I screwed it up.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You know, I'm going to learn from it. I'm not
gonna be perfect.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
You know what the good thing is, Doug. You know
the good thing is, and I actually think this is
good for you, is that you're at Green Bay. Yeah,
in your first job.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I mean yeah, Like there's pluses, there's mists. I
and by the way, I love that. I love that.
Now what you're not prepared for is like I'm so
used to winning, Like losing really does. It makes you
feel like shame and so it's really really hard. It's
really hard. And then people are like, don't worry about it,
(28:44):
You'll be fine, Like you're you're playing for March, You're
playing for the Horizon League tournament, Like no, not, I
want to I want to win every game, Like, isn't
that the whole reason we do the sports thing?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
So hey, I got one more for you. Yeah, more
for you before you try to divert me. I saw
the picture of you from Game one. New deodorant or no,
have you have we tried something different?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know, I've never been an undershirt guy, but I
also I just haven't. Everybody's like I have an nil
deal coming with some undershirt company. The crazy part was
that suit was so on point, like the colors that
like that is it is from a place in La
called Side DeVore, Like that's a tailor made, like that's
(29:29):
a money suit. And I wore the suit kind of
as a tip of the captain coach Sutton he would
always wear a suit, right, And uh yeah I was.
I was a little a little sweet. I was a
little a little sweaty. Okay, uh let me let me
let me ask you. Is Kentucky back.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I don't know if they're back. Okay, So I don't
know if they're back, but man, it was it was
cool to watch Big Blue Nation and how excited they
were because you know, again, when you hire Mark Pope,
obviously they're excited. They wanted to change like the Calier
had ended for most Kentucky fans, and Mark Pope brought
(30:12):
in one of their own and they went nuts on
that press conference. They filled roup all that. But but
but they're still in the back of their minds like, Okay,
we love this dude, but like can he do it
on the court, and to do it against Duke and
Cooper Flag and the way they hung around in that
game and the way they kind of wore him down
and played ten ten guys and Duke was down at
(30:34):
really five and a half sixty guys at the end
of that game with the injuries. It was it was
kind of incredible to watch, you know, just again Pope
and how he is Doug Like he's just so different
than cal and every single way, like his positivity. There's
no bs with Mark Pope. It is what it is.
(30:55):
And he's dorky and he leans into it and got
his family they are all around him, his girl, you know,
his daughter, one of his daughters was there and his
wife and like, listen, I've never seen Mitch Barnhart. I've
seen Mitch Barnhart the Kentucky a d for fifteen years now.
Every game I go to whatever. I saw Mitch Barnhart
smile more in five minutes talking to him before last
(31:17):
game than I did in fifteen years previously.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, it's and and John's a friend too. They're gonna
be They're gonna be special. By the way, his wife's brother,
his brother, his son. His brother in law is David Archibald,
my assistant.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
There you go, there you go. Wow, Hey man, I
love you. I appreciate your support.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Love.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I don't know if you're in New England.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
But I'm coming to Gaston. I wish.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
You don't think I would be there if I was
in New England. You don't think I would be the
first one in that building. Even though Providence fans hate
my guts, I would be there absolutely for you. I'm
in Charleston. We're doing in the Charleston FAU Liberty round Robin.
We're doing it on field to sixty eight. Tomorrow night
we have Charleston FAU on field of sixty eight. Then
(32:09):
we have Liberty FAU on Saturday, and then Sunday at
four we have Charleston Liberty. So that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's a cool that's a cool idea. Now they each
get is it a MTU? They each they each play
two games, the.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Game of Day, one Game of Day. Can we lock
you in next year? We're going to try to do
the marathon. I'm gonna try to bring it back next
year the first day of the season. Can we get
you in? Are you gonna play with Olahoma State again? Like?
Who You're gonna get them playing?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
You want?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
You want announcements? We're playing Kansas next year?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
You are you playing Kansas opening night?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I don't will play them when Bill said he'll play
us at Bill play whatever you want. So if you don't,
we're playing.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
No, No, but listen, if we the opening night thing
is only Here's what you know is it's a big
money maker for for a lot of these schools. So
if you can make if I can make one hundred
and ten thousand dollars for my school, then I have
to make it.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Take thousand dollars, I understand.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
But otherwise otherwise, if I don't have, if I can
arrange my other guarantees, then yeah, of course I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Do anything.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
All right, we'll talk. We'll talk all right, all right,
love you.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
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Speaker 9 (33:45):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Hey, Dan buyer, what's the game, Doug?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
The game today is.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
I feel a draft?
Speaker 6 (33:58):
All right?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
We are drafting on the heels of that raise playing
at the Yankees spring training complex. We are drafting our
favorite alternate stadiums or arenas or places that needed to
be used in a pinch.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
If you will, Oh, I gotta go one.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
Yeah, Jason picks first, Doug his second. I will pick third,
and then Sam is fourth and he'll get the first
pick in the second round.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
As we reverse it back. Jason Stewart, you were on
the clock.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I'll take it from here. Home Depot Center twenty sixteen
and seventeen. I want to say maybe even eighteen Chargers
loved it.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I was there. It was great, it was I liked it.
Thirty thousand seat stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
We never had thirty thousand seats in it because they
covered up some areas the Anaheim Convention Center, which hosted
the Clippers' home playoff losses to the Utah Jazz in
nineteen ninety one or two because of the La Riots.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Oh really yeah, Oh wow, okay, interesting, okay.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
All right, my third pick. Now it doesn't seem as crazy,
but at the time it sure was. When the then
New Orleans Hornets, yeah, they relocated because of Hurricane Katrina.
They played in Oklahoma City, and I actually thought it
was neat that they came up with Oklahoma City styled
uniforms when they played games there. Obviously, the Thunder would
(35:26):
eventually move to the city, but there was a time
when the Hornets were the Oklahoma City Hornets. So that's
my third pick. Sam, you are up with two straight picks.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
All right.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
From my first pick here, fourth overall, I'm gonna go
with the Rams playing at the coliseum.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Oh good pick.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
And it came into town because it was people played
baseball there, right and football, Yeah, and it was just
kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
It was just kind of like a throwback to the
nineteen fifties. All right.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
For my second pick, fifth overall, I'm going Northwestern Medicine
Field at Martin Stadium where the Wildcats are currently playing
twelve twenty three. Is the capacity there beautiful right on
Lake Michigan. I don't think it's helping the Wildcats win
any games.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
But fun little setting there.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
When the Seahawks had to build lumen Field, they went
to Husky Stadium and when the tiles fell, So Husky
Stadium is my sixth pick.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well, I forget the name of the stadium where the
University of Minnesota plays, but didn't. The Vikings kicker missed
the field goal against the.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Seahawks whereof Walsh Wildcat Walsh.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Missed it right, And that was at Minnesota's outdoor stadium
because they were building the new dome.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Jason last pick in two seconds NLV, host of the
Lakers playoff games due to the earthquake.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Oh, all right, throw back Thursday, next to Doug outlier
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
A what Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. That is
really really cool. You know, I appreciate that, and all
you guys in Sherman Oaks, Scalpoint, that means a lot.
There's a lot of people, a lot of friends all
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phones last night and I'm getting text and thanks and
congratulations Veto. I know you did that, but I truly
truly appreciate it. This is the Doug gottlie Show on
Fox Sports Trading. We are going to talk about the
Eagles Commander's game tonight, which is going to have a
slightly bigger viewing audience than the Green Bay game versus
Western It's slightly bigger, slightly bigger, but I don't know
(01:04):
if anybody can get more joy from it. And it's
interesting because the reality is that when you're going through it.
We were up twenty one and a half twenty three
early on the second half, and then I had to
start a freshman, true freshman point guard eighteen years old.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is he's been tweety.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He Australian as he likes to say, not Australian, Stralian,
and he was fantastic and he had to start because
and I told Sam this after we went off air,
that my starting point guard sprained his ankle.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And shoot around, we're the worst shoot around team ever.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Like I like to go and get the guys going
up and down, but like we're not like going five
on five full Mortal Kombat or anything. And we just
went up and down to work on some transition stuff
and he stepped on his teammate's foot sprained his ankle badly.
I'm like, oh my goodness, what else is gonna go wrong?
Because two weeks ago in our exhibition game, Foster Wonders
sprained his and a drill we do every single day,
(02:02):
that's just a it's basically like a layup drill. Anyway,
I wasn't thinking during the game about maybe a little
bit about a it's the first win. It's I know
how hard these things are. To get and nothing is
better than yesterday when we're up twenty three and then
(02:23):
all of a sudden, it's thirteen points, and I'm like, oh,
are we gonna just choke away this game with dumb stuff?
Like one player passed to another player who wasn't even
looking and they go down and lay the ball in.
Like we're up seventeen points, just hold on in value
the basketball? What are you doing? And you start to
realize it's the old oh act, Like you've been there before.
(02:44):
They've never been there before. I had two true freshmen
and a nineteen year old sophomore, and those guys played
a combined I don't know one hundred and ten minutes
or so, but I do have a secret weapon. His
name is Anthony Roy. He's a fifth year senior. He's
originally from Oakland, California.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And yeah, he was pretty good. Here's ant with a layup.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Anthony Roy, crossover, dribble, clear, pat to the basket.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Roy layup good.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Anthony Roy with that quick first step, just crossed over
the defender and was able to get to the basket
and lay it in.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Roy's now got seventeen.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, he had fifteen at the half.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He ended up with thirty five, and I think this
was when he got to thirteen, he just said kind
of like, you give me the ball, and this is
really good coaching right.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Here, and off pass goes to Anthony Roy Roy deep three,
got it.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Anthony Roy hits his seven three.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He's got twenty seven of the game in the Phoenix
back up by sixteen, seventy to fifty four as we
go under nine minutes remaining in the game.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
See what he did there.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Listen, Jay Stoo, Sam, Okay, Dan, that's really good coaching, right,
give him the ball. Lookay, Anthony, just hear your things.
Bet did again?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You did that? Dode again.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Actually the last twenty hitio at eight, he's right in
front of me and he's kind of going into his
James Harden dance and I go, no, aunt and he
he shot one with a guy right in his face
and he makes it and he smiled. He goes okay,
So yeah, it was. It was pretty awesome. Here's the
final call to win.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
How is it done?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Tonight?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Easy?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Anthony Roy through the Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
On his back and put up thirty five points for
the Phoenix eleven to fifteen, shooting eight of twelve from
behind the arc and five of five from the free
throw line went along with eight rebounds and a pair
of assists for green Bay. So green Bay improves the
one and two on the season. Western Illinois falls to
one and two on the season. Green Bay takes down
Western Illinois eighty seven to seventy three.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So the buzzer sounds and you're it''re a little bit
like Bobby. You're like, what do I What do I do?
Where do I go?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And I knew I was gonna get the water shower
right And they're like unloading liquid death cans because we
with Liquid Death is one of our sponsors, unloading liquid
death cans into these Gatorade bottles, and I can see
it happening, and you know, then the assistant coaches like
hold you up and then you walk in. They you
can see this stuff on Twitter or ex whatever you
(05:24):
want to call it now. And so they got me
with the water bottles. I was super wet, and one
like you're already hot. It's cold in the gym. Now
it's really cold.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And then.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Jerry Smith, who played at Louisville, he just got done
playing professionally in one of our coaches he had the
gatorade jug full and like I didn't see that one
coming and then I got completely dumped on.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It wasn't like was it Bill self?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
They missed the gatorade jug with Hunter Dickinson through the
Gateoray jugg and missed him. They got me full on
and then you know, I got a little little thinning
up top, so there's not a lot of hair to
catch that water. That was that was cold, but it
felt it felt really good, felt really and uh to
all you guys, Dan, I saw you tweeting.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Jay stew you put on ig Sam you don't care,
So there was no even mention he really does care.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
I know, I know I reposted your uh you're getting
soaked in the locker room at the celebration, it looked
like that that gatorade that gatory container was pretty cold.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was really cold because I think really coold because
I was jumping up a deck.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Look that is cold.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Who's your super tall guy on the on the team.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's Isaah Miranda.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
Yeah, he he got a little on the leg and
he was like whoa.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah it was it was it was chili. It was chili,
but there was and then you know. I FaceTime my son.
That was really cool and he's he was just you know,
like you just you know, you don't want to be
the one, you know what like thet we play on
TV on Saturday on f S two and you don't
have to be like oh and three, I just get
(06:59):
it over with, like win a game and then to
win a road game against a good team like that
was cool.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Sorry, Dan, go ahead, No, I was gonna say.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
I loved your message to us in the group chat
after the win pregame lift is so key, preme lift.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, I just I had so I had, so here's
and I we'll talk about this more in the pod.
But I am not a great sleeper now like I'm
I'm somebody I am a great sleeper, but I'm not.
I can fall asleep anywhere anytime for a very short
period of time and feel rested up and go like
I'm a great airport sleeper, airline, sleeper, train bus, whatever,
(07:37):
like I'll get a quick twenty minutes hour whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, But I woke up yesterday morning at like and
I was still kind of sick and I was getting
over it, and I took some I think I just
took some night quill at like I don't know, It's
like ten, and I went to my room and I
popped with my laptop and I was watching some stuff
and we're be on some notes and then I'm watching
(08:02):
some games and I fell asleep, and ten's.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Very pretty early for me.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And at like three am, I woke up and I
couldn't go to sleep, and I was like, people say
all the things, but really I thought I missed something,
you know, because I was convinced in my mind, and
like my coaching staff were like, we can win this game.
And truthfully, most people would have told you, don't schedule
that game. West jill Noi is really good. Last year
(08:29):
they beat the heck out of us. I wasn't the coach,
but we were a good team to beat the heck
out of us at our place. And like going to
West Jill Noi six and a half hour bus trip,
had a couple guys sick, had a guy hurt. Like
that's a bad schedule because they're picked to win their
league in the Ohio Valley, which is consider a better
league than our league, and they just beat San Jose
State and we just lost to Saint Thomas at home
(08:50):
and we were bad defensively, and I woke up going
like I'm missing something. I'm screwing it up because the
Saint Thomas game, we have a coach on our team
who was a Saint Thomas assistant, and we kind of
overthought the thing, you know, where it's like, ah, this
is what we're gonna do, and like turns out the
(09:11):
simplest thing just is the right thing. And I remember
going to sleep thinking like, I think we can win
this game. I think we have a good plan. I
think it's the way it is right, like you have
like a vision, not just a positivision, but a vision
for how it's gonna go. And then I woke up
a kind of not in a panic, but just like
like I'm missing something. I don't know, Dan, have you
(09:31):
ever had that when we're doing Dan Patrick or Jay
stew when you're doing Dan Patrick and you know we
got to be here early and you wake up at
like three thinking it's five, and then you work at
three thirty thinking it's five, and you're like you're just
in a panic, thinking you're you're gonna oversleep, and because
of it, you don't access.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
It right then you have dreams that you ever slept. Yes, yes,
I used.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
To have it all the time when I did Mike
and Mike in the morning, because I was like, oh
my god, I'm an oversleep for this about the time
as the biggest radio show in sports radio. So I'm
laying there and I'm looking at our scanning report and
I'm watching video and I'm driving myself crazy. I'm like, Okay,
what am I missing? I'm missing something? And so I
(10:12):
was really tired, and I hadn't been working out a
bunch and then you know, you get to your day
and Western Illinois their arena. It's just like a big building.
It's got a track, it's it actually looks cool, but
if you if you walk in from outside, it's just
kind of one big building. And there's a weight room
in it as well. And I remember walking out from
shoot round going, I want to lift some weights today.
(10:36):
So I stopped by when the team goes in and
I asked the strength coach do you mind if I
lift weights before our game?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
He's like, no problem.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So I went in there, I did buys, I did tries,
I did shoulders, and I came out and that's apparently
now my routine. So I got to find something for
the rest of I guess ever, or until we lose.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Well, I'll tell you one thing that I did notice
the gunshow.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
What's ahead the gun show?
Speaker 8 (11:01):
The gun show was definitely one, but no, you took
a time out in the second half to make sure
it wasn't going to get away from you. Now, it
was a different scenario in the Oklahoma State game where
you thought the guys could maybe play it out and
then it kind of got away from you as the
Cowboys pulled away at that point. But there was a
point where I think Western maybe closed to fifteen or thirteen. Yeah,
(11:24):
it was a couple of a couple of quick buckets,
and you immediately took the timeout. Yeah, and it was
a good, good time out, by.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
The way, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, you know, there's a timeout every four minutes, So
at sixteen under, twelve under, eight under, there's a timeout.
And at Oklhoma State, what I got caught up with
was the I thought it was going to be close,
that we just missed a couple of good shots, and
it was like eight and I remember looking up and
I can't remember if it was like twelve thirty two
(11:51):
to go in the second half, and I'm like, we
have the ball, let's just get through it. We'll foul
the next possession, and it ended up snowballing on me.
And by the time time you get to that time out,
it's it's too late, and you're you're It's like my
buddy Brian Naught, he was a high school coach, and
he texted me after the game. You know, you know
you don't get to take those with you when you die. Sure,
(12:12):
thanks dude, I know, but he's right right, like, you know,
use it. But yes, I felt much more comfortable. There's
a what's called a use it or lose it time
out in the first half. You know, you get one
time out for only the first half, and I save
that for we got the last possession and we ran
a play and again that's another thing like you start
to become you start to understand why coaches are so
(12:33):
like neurotic about stuff. Like we're up twenty one, so
we're in a good place and we run a play
and it works perfectly, and we faked our best player
and our second best maybe best kind of all around
basketball player, Marcus Hall. He goes in to shoot a
layup and he just misses it at the buzzer. So
the timing was perfect. We took the last possession, we
got the shot as the buzzer goes up, blah blah,
(12:55):
but we missed the layup, and like, and you're thinking
to yourself, don't be neurotic and think that's going to
be the difference in losing the game. But sometimes that's
the differencen winning and losing the game. It's just like
you go back, You're like, we just made that lamp.
It was just twenty three points. But yes, I appreciate
you noticing the quick time out.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
You know, you know, you want to know what else
I noticed, but not going to name names.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Midway through the second half, he subs someone in they
were not giving you the production. They're taking the shot
selection that you liked, and the about two minutes later
they were back.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
On the bench.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah. Well it just it had me.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
It happens.
Speaker 8 (13:30):
I'm not I didn't want to put the player throw
them out like us, but you just had a couple
of poor minutes and you're all right, we need to
switch it up, get them out of there.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So yeah, because again it can get away from you
really really quickly. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
What's his name? Why am I David Blatt?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I remember David Blatt was when he was coach of
the Cleveland Cavaliers before you know, Lebron got him fired.
David Blat famously said, like you're like a fire pilot.
You're making all these different decisions, and you really are,
you know, because part of it is you're trying to
manage the whole program, right you have to well, you
(14:06):
got to win the game, and that's your main focus.
You also you're trying not to kill these kids confidence
because like Saturday, I may need that same player, you know,
And then you're trying to also tell all these other
people that they have a chance to play, and you
don't want to be the coach that pulls you out
for one little mistake. On the other hand, like I
always tell these guys in the bench, like, look, all
the answers to the problems are already being they're already
(14:30):
trying on the floor. If you screw, If you scrub
because you miss a shot, that's fine, But if you
scrub because you don't do something mentally that the answers
were provided for you one in the sky report and
what you're watching, that's on you and I gotta get
you out for that.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
And that's what happened. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I appreciate you guys all the mentions, and yeah, the
gun show was on display. That's going to be a
until we lose. I guess that's going to be a
pregame ritual. And we got out with a dub.
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give Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Credit. You know you just you give Lebron James credit.
He deserves it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
My comments, which many of you seen on Instagrams, are
are critical of of not just the Lakers or of
Rich Paul, but Lebron's kind of handling of his son.
It's not I don't feel like having him only play
home games in the G League is going to help
him truly develop. But I do think that Lebron James
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can be doing amazing things at his age and still
be a little bit too much a daddy ball bad
basketball parent. All at the same time, being a bad
basketball parent does not necessarily mean your a bad parent.
And as I stated, if you actually listen to what
I said yesterday, I think he's a really good parent.
Obviously his supportive dad who only wants the best for
his son. But just because you think your son is
(16:34):
an NBA player doesn't mean he's an NBA player. Every
kid whose dad, if I've talked to every kid's dad,
there's that I have in scholarship, I have thirteen of them.
My guess is nine or ten of them think their
son's an NBA player. The only difference is Lebron is
one of the greatest players of all time, but that
doesn't change the evaluation of his son. Hey, quick question
(16:55):
about Tampa. So they're going to play at the spring
training side of the Yankees, right, Yes, they're going to
redo the Dome.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
They're going to redo.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Well, they were approved to have fifty five million dollars
in funding and it would be ready for twenty twenty six.
The new stadium, I believe could be ready. They still
have to approve the financing for that. That's still a
couple of years away.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
So it doesn't make sense, like why not just start
to take the fifty five million that's approved and start
the project for the new stadium.
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, it very well could be, but I don't know
the ins and outs.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'man just like it's like one of those things like,
let's make some sense to spend fifty five million dollars
on a place we're going to play for like a
year and then and then not play there anymore.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Well, especially on the heels of the A's playing in Sacramento.
But I don't know if they love the idea of
them playing at Steinbredderfield for three years. But if the
A's are playing somewhere in Sacramento on a minor league field.
You know, I don't see the difference anyway.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you. This is the
Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well, one of
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of sixty eight. He's the one knowing Jeff Goodman and
(18:17):
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Jeff, how are you?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Congrats? Congrats the first win. How did you celebrate last night?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I got doused with liquid death water, and then we
went to Buffalo wall Wings and Macomb, Illinois, and then
we bussed to Saint Louis and I slept for like
two and a half hours, and then I flew to Providence,
Rhode Island, so not far from from your home area.
As we get ready to play the Friars on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Oh you get the Friars. They've struggled a little bit.
But can I I need to ask you a couple
of questions, Yes, number one, Yes, how did you find
did you find Anthony Royd? Like? Where did how did
we get this kid? And how good is he as
good a shooter as obviously his numbers would like where
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would you put him among the best shooters you've seen
been around, played the games, played with whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I've never say anything like what he's been able to do. Wow,
we had an exhibition game. Do you know we didn't
We didn't broadcast it. We played an exhibition game against
Saint Norbert, Saint Norbert's Division IREI school. Gary Gresh does
a really good job. Last year they nearly beat nearly
beat us at Green Bay, and he made twelve three
(19:34):
pointers in a row like I've never I've never seen
that before. The NBA record is ten and the distance
and he's not he's not your classic like catch.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
He's a scorer who is a great shooter.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, and by that, I mean it's he's got like
a little James Harden to well, he can do more
than that. But it's also like he gets it and
he doesn't always catch and shoot it, like he has
all these different kind of like subtle moves to the left,
triple to the right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I created his own shot.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So how do you find him? How did you find him?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And no, I'll give credit to David Archibald, who's one
of my assistants. But he played at right down the
street from Oklahoma State at an HBCU. They played for
the ani I A championship last year. And uh, he
played for a friend of mine named Chris Wright at
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Langston University. Now he's well traveled, as many of these
guys are.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
He is.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
We're actually his sixth school.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And uh, he started San Francisco, he went to College
Southern Idaho. Then he went to I forget the I
forget the college maybe like Three Rivers or something, but Yakoma.
And then you know, he was at New Mexico State
when that was a whole mess two years ago. And
and then he went to Langston last year. He was
an na A a American And when we when we
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got him or when we were recruiting him, arch was like,
coach is how he does? Coach, I got a guy
and he knows, like that's always my thing. Like I
got a dude for him and he's like Anthony was like,
oh I know, Anthony run Like he played for Langston
last year, He's like, yeah, he's like coach, I was like,
well he was good. He's like, no, he's really so
(21:19):
we and and the way it works is you call
like everybody and you're like, what's the deal, and everybody
I talked to just like he can be so good.
He just there's a couple of things he needed to adjust.
And he's been with us since day one the summer,
and we we we butted heads a little bit over
the mid range because I have a rule. You can
take mid range shots, you better make them. And so
(21:42):
all of those moves. Now he just started to extend
his range, extend his range, extend his range. And he's
a straight A student right now. He's doing awesome and
he's unbelievable and like the shots he's making are not
easy shots. It's not like he's it's not like I'm
running all these actions like he just you just have
(22:02):
to get him in space.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And he's a very good power.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
He's he's a very good pastor as well, and he
wants to pass like this total was all screwed up
last night.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
He probably had five or six and they gave him
like two.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
So how cool was it?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
How cool was it though, because again, this road for you,
I know this, A lot of people don't. This road
for you to become a division one head coach wasn't easy,
and you took a lot of you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Listen to me.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I know that there are plenty of people in the
coaching profession, in the media profession that for the last fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Years have laughed at me. I know it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And there's an expression that there's a saying that I
love and it goes like this, if he weren't laughing
in your dreams, they're not big enough.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And you know, I know there's plenty of butter.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
You know, and I had I love you for this,
and and and again I've told everybody this. People just
people don't know you, like people. A lot of people
don't know you when they judge you. And I think
a lot of people judge you on this one. Like
I had somebody ask me today, They're like, how is
he doing this? How is he doing both jobs? And
(23:14):
I'm like, trust me, I've been around Doug. If there's
anybody that could figure this thing out, it is you. Now,
It's gonna take some time for you to figure it
out exactly like you want to be able to do.
But like you, listen, you're I say it all the time.
I think you're like a savant when it comes to basketball.
I do. And I think you're great with people, You're
(23:36):
great with kids. You're gonna figure this thing out. Obviously,
you know it's your one. You need more talent overall.
But I'm proud of you, man, I'm happy for you
that you got this one under your belt. Now you
can breathe a little bit, relax and uh and go
get you know, maybe you get the friars.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
About the friars call it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I do think that it's like you, what you learn
is sort of what you know. You have to manage people, right,
we're all in the people business radios to people business.
You manage a company, right, you and you and your
co founder, you guys managed Field of sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Right. You have to manage people. It's first thing. You
have to manage your time.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But you also, and this is a mistake that I've
seen lots of coaches do. You can't do everything that's right.
You can't do everything. If you do everything, then no
one else gets to coach, no one else gets to grow,
no one else feels really really empowered it. And one
of the great things about this kind of experiment that
(24:38):
people think it's really interesting. Like Coach Prime Dean Sanders
has he has like a reality show. Doesn't he has
like a like a talk show like weekly? Doesn't he
like that doing a TV show. There's a lot more
that goes into it than I think that just talking about.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Sean Miller has a show now that he's doing not
just his radio show every week, but he's got another
hard knocks type show. So like there's a lot of
stuff that guys are doing behind the scenes, let's face it,
with social media and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Doubt, but like the point is the point is this
I as you know, I was around Mike Boyd and
last last year and Mike continues to be a friend
and somebody who I view as someone who's led me
in this profession. And by the way, he is one
of the biggest uh protagonists for air fighters, Like he
was like you get air fire, changed your life, and
(25:29):
I am mister airfrier. Now by the way, I should
I should have some nil with my ninja airfighter. But
but I do think that Mike, he he was there,
he wanted to be for every workout. He wanted to
be in every film session and in every discussion and
part of offense and part of defense. And you can't
(25:52):
do it because what happens is then guys are scared
to And so I mean this, like Damon Archibald is
my defensive coordinator. Like I don't always agree with the coverages,
and I watch all the same film okay, but he
decides if we go over, we go under, and he
has to work with the staff and we do all
the scouts together. But when we come to a decision,
(26:13):
like they come to a decision, like I'll go with
it now. I will change some stuff if I see fit,
but I really empower them. Jordan McCabe, Well, you know
he's twenty six years old, but he's the most mature
twenty six years old. I've a twenty six year old
coach I've ever met. So I have him design all
the workouts, and I approve some stuff. I tell him
basically what I want, and occasionally I'll I'll come and
say let's change some stuff. But you have to, like
(26:35):
if you manage people, you have to let them do
their thing.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And it's no.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Different than what we do on radio, like I don't
tell Dan Bayer what to do with game time. I
don't tell him what subject. Like Dan Buyer's been doing
this for longer than I have. He knows he's doing
he's really good at it. And by the way, he
can't grow.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Its higher help them if they're young, Jordan mccabee, of
course you're going to try to help them learn, because
that was you what one point, whether it in coaching
and radio whatever at ESPN. But but ultimately, you've got
to delegate. If you don't delegate, you cannot micromanage uh
(27:13):
and and do it all these days. You can't. You
have too much. You got to do nil. You got
to coach, you got to prepare for for providence. You've
got to talk to these kids and build relationships with them,
because otherwise, no matter what you draw up, no matter
what you do, if they're not.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
If they don't if they don't listen, if they don't
trust you, if they don't trust you, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter how good the play is, it doesn't
matter how good the plan is, doesn't matter how good
your talent is. If they don't trust you, if they
don't believe in what you're doing. It doesn't matter. And
so yeah, I mean like and it's all a learning
(27:52):
thing for me. I'm dan Byer pointed out, like I
kicked myself at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We were close.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They went on a run roll in the second half
and I was thinking the TV timeouts coming and I
balked at a time out and there was five more
points scored and the game was kind of lost right then,
Like I screwed it up.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
You know, I'm going to learn from it. I'm not
gonna be perfect.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
You know what the good thing is, Doug. You know
the good thing is, and I actually think this is
good for you, is that you're at Green Bay. Yeah,
in your first job.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I mean yeah, Like there's pluses, there's mists. I
and by the way, I love that. I love that.
Now what you're not prepared for is like I'm so
used to winning, Like losing really does. It makes you
feel like shame and so it's really really hard. It's
really hard. And then people are like, don't worry about it,
(28:44):
You'll be fine, Like you're you're playing for March, You're
playing for the Horizon League tournament, Like no, not, I
want to I want to win every game, Like, isn't
that the whole reason we do the sports thing?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (28:55):
So hey, I got one more for you. Yeah, more
for you before you try to divert me. I saw
the picture of you from Game one. New deodorant or no,
have you have we tried something different?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know, I've never been an undershirt guy, but I
also I just haven't. Everybody's like I have an nil
deal coming with some undershirt company. The crazy part was
that suit was so on point, like the colors that
like that is it is from a place in La
called Side DeVore, Like that's a tailor made, like that's
(29:29):
a money suit. And I wore the suit kind of
as a tip of the captain coach Sutton he would
always wear a suit, right, And uh yeah I was.
I was a little a little sweet. I was a
little a little sweaty. Okay, uh let me let me
let me ask you. Is Kentucky back.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
I don't know if they're back. Okay, So I don't
know if they're back, but man, it was it was
cool to watch Big Blue Nation and how excited they
were because you know, again, when you hire Mark Pope,
obviously they're excited. They wanted to change like the Calier
had ended for most Kentucky fans, and Mark Pope brought
(30:12):
in one of their own and they went nuts on
that press conference. They filled roup all that. But but
but they're still in the back of their minds like, Okay,
we love this dude, but like can he do it
on the court, and to do it against Duke and
Cooper Flag and the way they hung around in that
game and the way they kind of wore him down
and played ten ten guys and Duke was down at
(30:34):
really five and a half sixty guys at the end
of that game with the injuries. It was it was
kind of incredible to watch, you know, just again Pope
and how he is Doug Like he's just so different
than cal and every single way, like his positivity. There's
no bs with Mark Pope. It is what it is.
(30:55):
And he's dorky and he leans into it and got
his family they are all around him, his girl, you know,
his daughter, one of his daughters was there and his
wife and like, listen, I've never seen Mitch Barnhart. I've
seen Mitch Barnhart the Kentucky a d for fifteen years now.
Every game I go to whatever. I saw Mitch Barnhart
smile more in five minutes talking to him before last
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game than I did in fifteen years previously.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
No, it's and and John's a friend too. They're gonna
be They're gonna be special. By the way, his wife's brother,
his brother, his son. His brother in law is David Archibald,
my assistant.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
There you go, there you go. Wow, Hey man, I
love you. I appreciate your support.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Love.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I don't know if you're in New England.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
But I'm coming to Gaston. I wish.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
You don't think I would be there if I was
in New England. You don't think I would be the
first one in that building. Even though Providence fans hate
my guts, I would be there absolutely for you. I'm
in Charleston. We're doing in the Charleston FAU Liberty round Robin.
We're doing it on field to sixty eight. Tomorrow night
we have Charleston FAU on field of sixty eight. Then
(32:09):
we have Liberty FAU on Saturday, and then Sunday at
four we have Charleston Liberty. So that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's a cool that's a cool idea. Now they each
get is it a MTU? They each they each play
two games, the.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Game of Day, one Game of Day. Can we lock
you in next year? We're going to try to do
the marathon. I'm gonna try to bring it back next
year the first day of the season. Can we get
you in? Are you gonna play with Olahoma State again? Like?
Who You're gonna get them playing?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
You want?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
You want announcements? We're playing Kansas next year?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
You are you playing Kansas opening night?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I don't will play them when Bill said he'll play
us at Bill play whatever you want. So if you don't,
we're playing.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
No, No, but listen, if we the opening night thing
is only Here's what you know is it's a big
money maker for for a lot of these schools. So
if you can make if I can make one hundred
and ten thousand dollars for my school, then I have
to make it.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Take thousand dollars, I understand.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
But otherwise otherwise, if I don't have, if I can
arrange my other guarantees, then yeah, of course I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Do anything.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
All right, we'll talk. We'll talk all right, all right,
love you.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
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In the meantime, Let's get to a game.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Hey, Dan buyer, what's the game, Doug?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
The game today is.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
I feel a draft?
Speaker 6 (33:58):
All right?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
We are drafting on the heels of that raise playing
at the Yankees spring training complex. We are drafting our
favorite alternate stadiums or arenas or places that needed to
be used in a pinch.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
If you will, Oh, I gotta go one.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
Yeah, Jason picks first, Doug his second. I will pick third,
and then Sam is fourth and he'll get the first
pick in the second round.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
As we reverse it back. Jason Stewart, you were on
the clock.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
I'll take it from here. Home Depot Center twenty sixteen
and seventeen. I want to say maybe even eighteen Chargers
loved it.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I was there. It was great, it was I liked it.
Thirty thousand seat stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
We never had thirty thousand seats in it because they
covered up some areas the Anaheim Convention Center, which hosted
the Clippers' home playoff losses to the Utah Jazz in
nineteen ninety one or two because of the La Riots.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Oh really yeah, Oh wow, okay, interesting, okay.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
All right, my third pick. Now it doesn't seem as crazy,
but at the time it sure was. When the then
New Orleans Hornets, yeah, they relocated because of Hurricane Katrina.
They played in Oklahoma City, and I actually thought it
was neat that they came up with Oklahoma City styled
uniforms when they played games there. Obviously, the Thunder would
(35:26):
eventually move to the city, but there was a time
when the Hornets were the Oklahoma City Hornets. So that's
my third pick. Sam, you are up with two straight picks.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
All right.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
From my first pick here, fourth overall, I'm gonna go
with the Rams playing at the coliseum.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Oh good pick.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
And it came into town because it was people played
baseball there, right and football, Yeah, and it was just
kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
It was just kind of like a throwback to the
nineteen fifties. All right.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
For my second pick, fifth overall, I'm going Northwestern Medicine
Field at Martin Stadium where the Wildcats are currently playing
twelve twenty three. Is the capacity there beautiful right on
Lake Michigan. I don't think it's helping the Wildcats win
any games.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
But fun little setting there.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
When the Seahawks had to build lumen Field, they went
to Husky Stadium and when the tiles fell, So Husky
Stadium is my sixth pick.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well, I forget the name of the stadium where the
University of Minnesota plays, but didn't. The Vikings kicker missed
the field goal against the.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Seahawks whereof Walsh Wildcat Walsh.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Missed it right, And that was at Minnesota's outdoor stadium
because they were building the new dome.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Jason last pick in two seconds NLV, host of the
Lakers playoff games due to the earthquake.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Oh, all right, throw back Thursday, next to Doug outlier
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