November 28, 2024 • 37 mins
This Thanksgiving, The Best of The Doug Gottlieb Show brings you a special treat! Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres are filling in to serve up another Fox Sports Radio Friendsgiving! 🦃✨
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Don dott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours and aeron Torres. Just
as we start this show, the Chicago Bears have gotten
into the end zone again. We have a ballgame in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
We do Dan Byer. First of all, how are you
happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
A very happy Thanksgiving to you. I am doing very
well and this has become a tradition here on Fox
Sports Radio. How are things with you on this Thanksgiving
eron Torres?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Everything's good, Everything's good. I want to give a quick
shout out to our board Op well one. I love
Iowa Sam, but Mary Mack I'm traveling this week and
Mary Mack an arm and a leg. We spent a
lot of time making sure that I got set up
that I sounded good for today's show, So big thank.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You to her.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But yes, I travel every year for Thanksgiving, but it
has become I think a two or three year tradition
at this point that me and you rock out here
for a couple hours and I always have fun doing it.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
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told you the Bears got into the end zone. They
went for two to try to make it a one
possession game. They were unable to capitalize. So it is
(01:18):
a twenty three thirteen Lions lead over the Chicago Bears
early in the fourth quarter. We'll keep you up to
date on what's happening there and we'll dive back into
the Lions and where they are on this whole thing.
But it is Thanksgiving, and it is a special Thanksgiving.
Aaron Torres, I think this is our twenty third annual
Thanksgiving show that you and I have done together here
(01:39):
on Fox Sports Radio. And so it's not just a
regular show. It's something much more than that.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh wait a second, wait a second, here is at.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
The door bell.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It sounds like, let's use at the let's use at
the door here.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's the buyer in Torres friends Giving on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Head guys, I was said, Thanksgiving, all right, welcome to
having Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I brought some some scalped potatoes, and his zesty salad.
Thanks so much for having me. Hey, how would you
stick around for the next couple of hours hang out
with us? I'd love to that. That would be great.
It's a friends giving here. It's not just Aaron and I.
It's Iowa, Sam, Aaron and I and you here on
Fox Sports Radio eight seven seven nine nine non Fox
eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine.
(02:29):
If you hear anything that we talk about and want
to chime in, feel free to do so. We've got
some friends stopping by throughout the day as well.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Uh d Dan Okay, I was gonna say so. I
actually I did invite Arnie Spanier to our our friends giving.
One minute ago on Twitter he posted, just got the
second car stuck in the snow?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Can we go for three? So I was already not
planning on having him.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But I think it's kind of good that he did
the upfront cancelation on us, because, uh, you know, listen,
you can plan a friends giving, you can you know,
you can send out the invite in advance, but you
just never know who's gonna get a car stuck in
the snow, or maybe three cars stuck in the snow.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
The way Ernie Spaniard. The stick of genius is gone.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That is amazing. He never turns down an invite, turned
us down, and now there may be a reason because
he's continued. Oh wait, wait, Peo, who's at the door?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Thank Friends Giving Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's producer Shay. How happy Thanksgiving? How are you?
Speaker 7 (03:35):
I didn't bring scal potatoes. I just brought my hungry
stomach and are ready to go mentality.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We will have some food for you here on Fox
Sports Radio, not only food for thought, but actual food here.
And we want everybody to be welcomed. We know that
maybe people don't have places to go, maybe you are
in the process of going somewhere, and we want you
to just feel at home here. We are in for
Doug Gottlieb, but it is a friends Giving. We're actually
gonna be in for Cavino and Rich as well. We're
(04:02):
here with you for the next four hours here on
Fox Sports Radio on this Thanksgiving Day. So Iowa Sam
has already sat down at the the old couch and
is taking in some Lions Bears football action. Shay, you
know what, you can keep your shoes on, Shay. You
don't even have to take him off. Don't even worry
about it. So you're gonna get the carpets cleaned and
everything the day after, So it doesn't it doesn't doesn't matter.
(04:24):
We're gonna have guests popping in throughout the show. It's
gonna be a very fun friends Giving here on Fox
Sports Radio, I will.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Say Shay saying I showed up with absolutely nothing but
an empty stomach. That sounds like Arnie Spanier if he
actually would have made it without, you know, without getting
his car.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Arnie is very generous come Christmas time. So there no no, no, no, no, no, no,
let's let's you know, there's a big asterisk there.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You actually have to work with him, cause I got
you know, I got that maple syrup and the pancake
mix for about three four years running and then, to
use a bad Thanksgiving pun, it all went cold turkey.
He went cold turkey on me, and so uh so, yeah,
so I have yet to have I haven't had the
maple syrup in a couple of years because quote, it's
(05:07):
only for people that I work with the good thing is,
you know, we we we stocked it up at the
Torres House and we we ration out that Vermont maple
syrup because it is really good. But yeah, I haven't
got I haven't been on uh. I guess I've been
on Arnie's naughty list. Not to get too far ahead
of ourselves on the holidays, but I guess I'm on
Arnie's naughty list for the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It happens to you. We won't maybe get Arnie live,
but we will get him on Memory X here on
Fox Sports Radio. I do want to say this, and
then we will get into actual sports talk. But it
is a friends get together. This isn't just your normal
Thanksgiving show. That's not what this is gonna be about.
This is gonna be us having some fun, having a
(05:47):
good time, trading stories. We're gonna get some friends from
our past coming in that have joined us on previous shows,
maybe current friends as well joining us. And again I'm
opening up the phone lines erin because there's going to
be some talk about the Lions. There's going to be
a lot of talk about college football. And if you're
alone on Thanksgiving you need a friend, you can come
(06:09):
on over to our house here on Fox Sports Radio.
That's why we're doing it. You can also find Aaron
on X at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me
at dan Byer on Fox. I am also on Blue
Sky and I've been on Blue Sky for about a year,
a little less than a year, but I've been doing
it for the last month. I know there's been a
huge craze. I'm not leaving X by any means, but
(06:31):
Dan Byer on Blue Sky b e y e r
if you want to find me erin. I don't know
if you've made the jump yet. If you have, I've
not been able to follow you. But that's where you
can find me as well.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Big on TikTok to dan Byer. Yes, dam Byer's the
guy does all the dances and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I do have a TikTok it is buyer talk, but
I have not posted much there. Aeron Torres will give
you some stuff there as well. So this is where
we are on this friends giving here on Fox Sports Radio.
The Lions now in a bit of a dog fight
in a good football game against the Chicago Bears, and
there'll be some more Lions talk because Aaron's got some
thoughts on Detroit and where they are as a football team.
(07:06):
In this twenty twenty four edition of The National Football
League season that's coming up in about ten minutes or so.
But let's just sit back erin and laugh at all
the people that wanted to take the Lions off of
Thanksgiving for so many years that they didn't want Detroit.
They said this was bad football. My only defense is
someone who has loved watching this Lions team win or lose.
(07:29):
I'm not a Lions fan at all, but it's part
of my Thanksgiving. It's what I remember most when I
went over to ant Betty's house. That's where our Thanksgiving
was always held. The Lions game was always going on,
and you would not have those memories. You would not
have that carryover from when you're a child to when
you're an adult if you would have got rid of
(07:50):
the Lions on Thanksgiving. And now that crowd of those
who said we want better football, get this team off
my TV. It's been pretty silent the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Zero doubt.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And I'll say, first of all, I'm with you, and
it's not just because the lines are good and it does.
It obviously makes it a more intriguing game, especially with
Caleb Williams number one.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Overall pick et cetera.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But I'm with you from the perspective of do we
have to kill every tradition in sports?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I was thinking about this today, is that, you know,
college football has historically played the egg Bowl on Thanksgiving.
And I went on social media on Twitter on next
this morning.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I saw a lot of.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
People, Wait a second, there's no egg Bowl today, There's
no egg Ball today.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
And it's like, I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You know, Mississippi State wasn't project for people who don't
follow college football. That was old miss Mississippi State every
every Thanksgiving night, you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And it's like I get that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I don't know if they don't want to compete with
the NFL or if you know, Mississippi State isn't expected
to be.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Good whatever, but it's like it's kind of tradition.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You're not watching because you expect to see the best football,
but it's just really fun. I mean, if you remember
last year, I think one of the coaches came out
on a four wheeler if I'm not mistaken, and it's
just and so I was like, we don't care, Like,
we don't watch because it's the Egg Bowl unless you're
probably a fan of one of those two schools. But
we watch because it's tradition, and so I bring it
(09:10):
up to bring it full circle to your point, there
are gonna be years where the Lions are good and
the Lions are bad. By the way, as we're learning,
there are gonna be plenty of years where the Cowboys
are not a team that you want to feature in
a standalone game.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But it's tradition.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I like the Lakers on Christmas Day. I like college
football on New Year's Day. So darn it, we fought
the fight, Dan Byer. We have kept the Lions, and
the good news is they have rewarded us, as you said,
for sticking with them through all these years.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It is such a part of that and I've always
felt that it's nice to if the team's not competitive,
if the game's not competitive, that's fine as well. You
can sit there and visit with family and do what
you need to do. But I don't want the biggest
games of the year. I don't need to see the
Lions Chiefs on Thanksgiving. This is a nice, delicious match
(09:58):
up here. And if we we add Lions Packers, which
by the way, we get next week on Thursday Night Football,
that'll be a dandy one. Then so be it. But
I'm not in dire need of having the greatest games
always come on holidays. I don't think that I need that.
I'd rather almost watch casually if I could. And I
just I never understood the angst of why people were
(10:20):
so mad at watching the Lions, and maybe they just
didn't have that sort of childhood connection to that game
or to what it means. But the Lions are having
the last laugh, and to your point, now we're sitting
there laughing at the Cowboys, and I don't hear any
complaints about that, because maybe people do enjoy watching Dallas lose,
But to me, it's a tradition that has continued. And
(10:41):
for the NFL, who usually caters to everything or or
bends towards something, for them to not do that, I
am very very happy.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, no, exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And I think the other thought too about all of
this is what you said is the important part is listen.
And you and I take very seriously what we do.
But but you know it's we're probably a little bit
more of a casual listen today than we would be
the day after the super Bowl. And you know, a
standalone game usually means something Sunday night football, Monday night football,
Thursday night football playoff.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Game, whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But to your point, there aren't if you're not a
Bears or Lions fan, there aren't a lot or maybe
maybe you made a small wager on the game, Like,
there aren't people that are just sitting there, you know,
in front of the two feet from the TV, hanging
on every whim of this game. It's casual, you're with
your family, you have it on in the background. I
mean even here where I am with my family. We
(11:34):
had it on the background this morning as we had
a couple bites to eat early, and we'll obviously have
the late game on as we eat our traditional dinner.
And it's you know, again, every football game matters, blah
blah blah whatever. But it's like, not everything has to
be everything, and it's okay to just have a game
on in the background, enjoy your family. And I think,
to your counterpoint, what if it was Chiefs line, Like
(11:56):
I'd actually be kind of mad if it was Chiefs lines,
because I'd be like, I gotta be invested in this, Sorry, Grandma.
You know, we'll talk later, like we'll do the puzzle out,
you know later. I got to watch Patrick Mahomes here,
So I like that it is that it I just
like the tradition one. But to your point, it is
kind of a casual watching experience as opposed to a
(12:16):
lot of the other football that we normally watch.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And here's the cool thing about today's show as well.
With us here on Fox Sports Radios, we're going to
keep you up to date of what's happening on Bears Lions.
We'll let you know. I do the Red Zone radio
show on Sunday afternoons with Carrie Rhodes, So I feel
like I almost have it within me to give the
updates of the games that are going on. So it
is a twenty three to thirteen lead by the Lions
(12:40):
over the Bears, eleven forty five left to go, but
Chicago's got the football back, so we've got some We've
got some excitement going on at least on this Thanksgiving Day,
and hopefully it carries through with Giants Cowboys, even though
it's Drew Locke versus Cooper Rush and Dolphins Packers tonight
should be fun. He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer
the Detroit Line right now. Do you have the NFL's
(13:01):
best record just that one loss right now on their ledger,
alongside the Kansas City Chiefs, who also have that ten
to one mark. There may not be an argument on
if the Lions are the best team in the National
Football League in twenty twenty four, but is there a
bigger picture to look at with the Lions. He's erin Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. It's a Buyer and Torres Thanksgiving that's
(13:23):
coming up next from the Tyraq dot Com studios here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's the Buyer and Torres Friendsgiving on Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. It's the Buyer
and Torres Friendsgiving on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
As we sit in for Doug Gottlieb, he is eron Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. A happy Thanksgiving and unhappy Thanksgiving for
the Chicago Bears, but a very very happy one for
the Detroit Lions who picked up that twenty three to
twenty win erin and yeah, just just an amazing, amazing
ending and all the wrong reasons for the Chicago Bears,
(14:06):
but a great, great ending for the Detroit Lions. They
have now won a franchise record ten straight. Joining us
now on our friends Giving here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's at the door. He's Lions wide receiver Tim Patrick.
Tim Patrick, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy friends Giving. Can you explain
to me what was going through your mind is the
(14:28):
seconds we're ticking away watching the Chicago Bears on offense
in those final waning seconds of today's game.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Happy Thanksgiving to you guys who Honestley, I don't know
what happened. I'm not having gonna lie to you. I
know it third and long. Obviously they didn't want to
spike it if they had a timeout, they didn't call
a timeout. Uh, I'll kind of shock. And then when
he threw it up and they said the time is out,
Oh it's not. We wont is that?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Do you guys have Like do you have a procedure
it is like, does does Ben Johnson call the time out?
Is Dan Campbell call the time out of Jared Goff?
Like do you guys have a plan in place if
there ever is chaos like that for an offense at
the end of the game.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Yeah, we definitely have a plan and for all that stuff.
That's why it was kind of I was just approably
got to happen. I'm not gonna lie because they had
a time out, right Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah, that speaks for ourselves, so we'll believe it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
After that, Tim, I was gonna ask you, let me
let me ask you this. Uh Dan, Dan, my co
host mentioned Dan Campbell. Just tell us what it's like
to be with that man day in and day out,
because I think everybody that watches football is jealous that
you get to be part of this this thing that
he's building and everybody's building in Detroit.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Yeah, you said it right, Uh what you see from
Dan and uh, the same guy every day. Man. Uh
it's literally it's amazing to go to war with him
and you never want to let him down. He has us,
high expectations for us, and he just trying to meet
those expectations each week, each day, each minute, and uh man,
he's a lock of this team.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Tom Patrick joining us here on Fox Sports Radio two
catches forty eight yards and the Lions victory over the
Bears to improve to eleven and one. I mentioned the
ten straight victories. How do you guard against Tim peaking
too soon. It's a long, long NFL season. You guys
have bigger goals than just a ten game winning streak
in the regular season. How do you guard against maybe
peaking too soon in this campaign.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
I don't think we're peaking too soon. I feel like
we I don't think we played good as an offense.
I don't think we played good at all today. We
made the play that we needed to make to win,
But peak in I don't think when I think we
have obviously a lot of work to do. Personally, I
don't like the way I play as I made two catches,
but the play that you guys didn't see, I didn't
(16:44):
like him. So I think as a whole we're definitely
not peaking. We just find ways to win, and that's
what you have to do in this.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Week, Tim, very simple question for you. You know we
know in the backfield they're Sonic and Knuckles. Do you
A'mona Ross, Saint Brown Jamison?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
What you do?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Do you guys have a nickname? Because if not, we
got to get you one. Like the Nasty Boys, the
Wild Boys, you got anything for us?
Speaker 8 (17:07):
We don't got nothing, But I'll give you all control
of that. Make it cool, make it, make it, make
it gritty.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
The Wild Boys used to be Dan was the Nasty Boys,
was the Cincinnati Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
If I want to steal that.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
It got to be crazy too fast?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
How about too fast, too furious? I don't know if
there's a trademark on that.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
No jam fast ones.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
But you're furious, though, you're the furious one.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Uh, Let's let me get something a little bit more,
a little scarier.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
We got two hours on air to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll work shop it, Tim before we
let you go. I know that the career has been crazy.
You've battled through some injuries, Like, it hasn't been easy
for you. What's it like now you're on the NFL's
team with the best record in the National Football that
you guys are heading towards the playoffs. What is this
season been like for you so far into right?
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Uh, it's been It's been different, but a good different.
I've never won this Minion game before. I've never been
on a winning streak before like this, And honestly, it's
just like I feel like we're we're in a way
of we're breaking a record each week with each win
and I'm just thankful and I just honestly, I just
want to live up to the hype each day, each week.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, you guys are the hype. You're living up to
it for sure as a team. Tim Patrick, appreciate you
stopping by our friends giving. Happy Thanksgiving to you and
yours and best of luck the rest of the season.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Happy thank you to you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Thank you all right, Tim, Tim Patrick, wide receiver of
the Detroit Lions, stopping by. Man, he couldn't even believe
what the Bears did in the winning second.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know, he was trying to be so diplomatic about it,
and I respect that. I understand you don't want to
talk about another team given boaltim board material. But you
could tell he was like, yeah, no, that's something that
we practice every week and should should have a little
bit more under control.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So, hey, Dan, I got a question for you.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah I think I'm hearing Oh wait, yeah, you want
to go see what it is?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, he's at the far In Torres Friendsgiving on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Whoa is that?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Jason Martin Fox Sports Radio happen to two am Eastern
every Saturday.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Jason Mort's happening.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Hey, Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Yeah, so Thanksgiving to you guys. That was kind of
tough listening to Tim Patrick. He's a former Bronco and
of course I'm a Broncos fan, and he sounded like
he was having a blast. He was saying, I've never
been on a win streak before.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I've never won this fake games before.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
It's like, yeah, let's let's let's not Uh, that won't
be something I'll be thinking thinking thanking the war for
later on today.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Although this season's been a lot better. So Jamar, let
me ask you.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I mean, you know, we're on air trying to react
this to this in real time. I mean, are you
with family? Are you with the daughters? I mean, one,
first of all, Happy Thanksgiving? Two, how are you spending
the holiday? But then three, where were you when the
Chicago Bears did not know how to run too many offense?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I was sitting in a chair.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
My two daughters were taking their afternoon nap before we
head over to my in laws for dinner here in
a little while, and I.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Sat there and watched it was It's like, Wow, Caleb's
gonna pull this off.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Except for the fact that bad football teams, especially ones
that have discipline issues and sideline coaching issues tend to
find ways to lose games.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That are baffling.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
There's something good teams do and it's not do stuff
like what we just saw right there between Eberflus and
Williams both. I mean, Williams can't be completely absolved here
because he wasn't aggressive enough doing that. But I'm starre
watching it, baffled, Like just like Tim Patrick said, they
did have a time out, right, yeah, and you guys
said yes, And his response was, well, that pretty much
speaks for itself.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
He's like, yeah, bears are idiots.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Like really, he didn't say that, but that's exactly what
he meant. I don't know that I've ever seen something
that napt. I how does Matt.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Eberflus keep his job for twenty four more hours?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Like?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I understand stand it's Thanksgiving, but really, let.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Me hop in on this really quick, and Dan you
can ask the next question. But this is a stat
via Josh Dubou of the AP two hundred and twenty
one coaches have twenty plus career games decided by seven
points or fewer. Matt Eberflus's two twenty seven win percentage
in those games five and seventeen overall ranks two hundred
and twenty first out of two hundred and twenty one coaches.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, and by the way, that that was another way
of saying the stat that CBS had five and eighteen
since twenty twenty two in one score games. Now five
and nineteen, that's awful completely. The worst part about the
Eberflus thing was that they actually used to time out
when the clock was stopped on the same possession. Like
my goodness, oh jeez, we brought you on j martintot
(21:47):
college football and then here Matt Eberflus goes all Eberflus
on our friends giving And that's all that we're talking
about here. But let's talk a little bit college football.
Are you cool with the rankings? Do you have problems
with the rankings? I got gripes.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I don't like.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I don't like how it's being set up. Right now
you would have Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon on the right side.
Are you good with all of this that will settle
out in the end or is there anything that's in
your crawl right now? After these first few weeks of this,
these rankings and brackets coming out.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Well, I mean there's some there's definitely some things that
kind of make you raise your eyebrow. You're just like,
are they going to try to find a way to
get Alabama in this thing? Are they going to try
to find a way to leap frog Clemson somewhere? Are
they trying to find a way to keep Indiana out.
There's a lot of different conspiracy theories. But I think
what we've come to recognize throughout the course of this season, guys,
is nothing seems to be going according to play week
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to week. There've been a couple of absolutely just crazy weeks,
and there's no reason to end there's no reason to
feel like we're not maybe game for another one of
those Like it's like, well, what happens if Clemson beats
South Carolina? What happens if South Carolina beats Clemson and
all this? One of those two things will happen. But
there's gonna be something that that makes this even worse.
What are the biggest issues that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You have, Dan, I, Well, what I have is the
committee going through their rankings now and then what we
do is we put it into a bracket. And what
we have been seeing and what we saw this past
week was sec versus SEC, Big Ten versus Big Ten,
and ACC against what I call pseudo ACC with Notre
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Dame being our first round games, and in that bracket
you had Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon on one side
of that bracket, which I thought was very, very top heavy.
The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee in basketball makes adjustments off
of their rankings. They don't want conference opponents. If conference
opponents play against each other in the seed line, they'll
alter it, they'll make moves. And since they're not putting
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it into a bracket, I don't want to see Indiana
at Penn State. I'm going to see it next year.
I've seen it for the last twenty five years. I
don't need to see that again. What I want to
see is Indiana at Georgia, Penn State home to Tennessee
or something like that. So that's my issue with it.
If the committee is going to keep it this way,
and I think that they are, because otherwise what's the
point of doing this, then I think we are in
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danger of having some whole hum first round matchups, which
I think takes a lot of the buzz out of
the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I mean, I think that's fair.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
I mean, the one thing you don't want is a
bunch of rematches, and you don't want the thing that
you get most of the time. Popping back up, I
think the issue that you have is if you are
seeding the teams, you still have to reward those seeds
in terms of the value of the opponents that they play,
and not just do it based on the matchups. But
I do think there's a balance concern there, especially if
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you end up with Georgia Tennessee for the second time, yeah,
or even Ohio State Penn State for a second time,
or however else it might play out. Those are the
matchups that we've already seen this and unless we're going
to see it in a conference championship game, which is
its own problem, I don't know that that's the best
That's not the best way to market the sport. The
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whole point of having twelve teams is hopefully to create
some unique matchups and some different hurdles, different obstacles for
who ultimately comes through and wins the thing.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Jamart, last week, obviously you and I were coming on
air g Jason Martin host with myself Er Tors eleven
to two am Eastern time, so eleven pm to two
am Eastern every Saturday, and we do a lot of
college football. Obviously, we were coming off fresh off that
Alabama loss of earlier in the day Old Miss Indiana.
Is there one game that you kind of have your
eye on this coming weekend and rivalry weekend that you
think could shake some things up.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
There's a piece of me that has my eye on
Georgia Georgia Tech, just because Georgia Tech's been very pesky
against good opponents this year, and certainly they've done it.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
They've had a good job.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
I mean, the Georgia team that we saw last week,
we're not gonna have to worry about that one. But
george has been very jekyling heidish. As have a lot
of these teams this year. I don't look, for instance,
at Ohio State Michigan, even though that'll be a it
might be a tougher game. I just think Ohio State's
way too talented right now at Texas A and M
and Texas is just going to be a great atmosphere,
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So I just want to watch that game.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
But the one I'm keeping my eye on in terms.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Of Georgia better watch out is that Georgia Tech game
if you had to, If I had to pick.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
One, wouldn't it be crazy if Lincoln Riley and USC
do the craziest?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I was thinking that, Yeah, oh Notre Dame. Mister, everybody
mocks him from the CC country? Is you know the
guy who potentially knocks a Notre Dame out.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Of Let me let me ask both of you this.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I know they haven't really played like super substantial opponents.
If you look at some of Notre Dame's defensive stats,
I mean, they're number one in past defense and they're
like one hundred yards better than like like their turnovers,
forced intersept are we Is it possible that Notre Dame
is being undervalued or is it just the competition is
bad and once they play a real team, we're gonna
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see who they really are. I don't I don't know
if either of you has a strong opinion on that,
but I was just thinking about that this week.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I think it's hard to I think it's hard to tell. Yeah,
just real quick.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
I think it's hard to tell because their schedule is
so much different than so many others.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
And we've seen this.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Before where we've gotten really excited, where guys have gotten
really excited about Notre Dame and then they should up
and they don't measure up. I don't know that that's
the case here. I'm still skeptical that they're quite up
to snuff when it comes down to it against the
top guys, especially in the trenches.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It's a little bit opposite of the SEC where you
have so much of the well they beat them, yeah,
but they lost to them, and they beat them, And
like Notre Dame schedule, even though there's it's ACC Leyden
doesn't lend to that. And then with the ACC being
so bad and the teams that they didn't play from
the ACC, I just didn't think that they had an
opportunity at any point to really really impress the voters
(27:33):
or impress a resume. The rankings are fine, what are
they fifth? And the A people and you know, and
I just don't think that the seventh in these rankings,
I think they were I just don't think they've had
the opportunity to really impress because of where of how
their schedule is laid out, Like you didn't have a Clemson,
you didn't have Miami on that schedule. So there's never
(27:55):
been an opportunity outside of week one and that was
negated after the end and you lost. So yeah, maybe
this week, but still then if they win, then it's
just that's a bad Lincoln Riley USC team. We shall
see j Mar thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Oh yeah, appreciate you guys. Man Happy Thanksgiving. Oh yeah,
you guys are hosting today. I'll be hosting in the
morning with Brian no at six am Eastern side.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So all right, right, get a nappen as well. All right,
Jason Martin, thanks for coming by. Take some leftovers while
you're on your way.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Indeed, appreciate you, brothers. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He's Erin Torres. I'm dan Byer. It is a friends
giving here on Fox Sports Radio Iowa. Sam is here,
Shay's hanging out. Thanks to Tim Patrick of the Lions
for joining us as well. Cowboys and Giants are just underway.
Dallas has got the ball at midfield. Just a couple
of minutes in that scoreless affair, plus a bunch of
college basketball going on. Hearin Torres will have his top
(28:51):
ten is. We are with you until seven o'clock Eastern
time for Pacific is. We'll also be hanging out in
for Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. So
Aaron and I are not just done after the Doug
Gottlieb Show. If you want to hang out, you can
reach them at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox. Wait till you hear what
it sounded like, not only on the Lions Radio network,
(29:13):
but how Bears fans handled the final seconds of their
devastating loss to the Lions. You'll hear it next on Fox.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. It's
the Buyer and Torres Friendsgiving on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
As we are sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today, a
happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. He is eron Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. Two twelve to go in Detroit. The
Bears have the football first and ten and it's a
three point game. The Bears didn't get their first first
down until late in the first half, and now they
have the ball right at the fifty yard line, not
(29:54):
only with an opportunity to possibly tie this game, but
even take the lead. Detroit is all three of their timeouts.
Chicago too is now the clock is ticked down to
the two minute warning. But quite the reversal of fortunes.
And for as much praise as we just gave the Lions,
there was a Jamiir Gibbs fumble inside the Bears five
yard line when they really could have sealed this deal.
(30:17):
He fumbled, it was recovered by Chicago, and right now
that would be the play that the Lions are ruining
as they are trying to hold off the Chicago Bears
drive that started basically at their own half inch yard line.
They've gotten halfway there. Now they got the other half
to go eron Torres in the next two minutes.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, Dan, you're burying the lead.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The Lions have essentially fallen apart since I tried to
make the argument in our pre show meeting that they
can be a historically great team. They were up like
twenty three. I don't know what the exects, but they
were basically on cruise control. Yeah, and in no why
literally as we signed on touchdown Bears and all of
a sudden it was a game. And so you know,
(30:59):
I don't know about the tourist Thanksgiving jinks here, but
it's basically been since I made the argument, should we
be talking about them as a historically great team that
they've completely fallne I am.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Going to give you a golf analogy, sure, and I'm
going to use two separate players to do it. I
truly feel when Rory McElroy is playing his best, no
one can beat him. When he is at the top
of his game, no one can beat him. It doesn't mean,
it doesn't mean that he's the best player. Just if
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everybody was at their A plus game, I would take
Rory McElroy over anybody else. And that argument also then
goes to when you're talking about Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods,
who played you know, who's who's the goat, Who's the
greatest of all time? It's really hard to argue that
anybody played the sport better than Tiger Woods did like
it truly is and I even think we think of
(31:53):
that with Aaron Rodgers. But if you had to take
every team play their A plus game in the NFL
this year, and I think that's what you're not alluding to,
but that could be a part of your conversation, the
Lions would be that team. They would be the that
would be the team that would win every game if
everybody was playing at their A plus level.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, I think that's actually the perfect way to describe it. Yeah, no,
And it's no different than any other sport, is that. Listen,
I'm a guy who picked the Lions, but it's still
put them on a neutral field against Kansas City. It's like, well,
you know, Kansas City. They've been in so many big
spots lines last year in the NFC Championship game. Whatever
the point I'm trying to make is it's exactly that is.
(32:32):
Saying the Lions are the best team right now, or
saying they have the most upside, or saying that at
their best they are the best team doesn't mean that
they're a runaway anything. And I think that's actually the
perfect way to describe them right now. They look the part,
they play the part, but there are still obviously questions
that have to be answered about them.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Hey, when the friends are over for Thanksgiving, let's play
a game.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
By the way, CBS just put a graphic up. Bears
are five and eighteen in games decided by one possession,
worst in the NFL since twenty twenty two, So the
bears of that going for them or not? All right?
The the game today, Iowa, sam is I feel it?
Four person draft, two rounds, eight picks and all. It'll
(33:20):
start with aeron Torres picking first. I'll pick second, Samuel r. Third, Shay.
You get back to back picks at four and five.
As we reverse said, Thanksgiving traditions that have well really
nothing to do with the side dishes that you want
to eat. So Thanksgiving traditions, but please leave out mashed potatoes,
collar green sweet potato pie, the whole deal. Thanksgiving traditions
(33:44):
that you love on Thanksgiving Day. Erin Torres your first up.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, and before the break, I think you teased, like
you know, kind of ones that you don't immediately think of.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I don't think it's that. I just think it is
what are the things that you love about Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And I'll just I was just to keep the listener, Aaron,
don't worry about that. Yeah, that just make sure they
didn't leave their car.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I wanted to make sure that I explained myself well
when we discussed this listen. I'll take an easy number one.
It's what we led the show with. It's sitting on
the couch, relaxing and enjoying some care free football. Unless
your alliance are a Cowboys fan, is that you know,
there's nothing better than you know, kind of that post
that post lunch or post dinner. You know, you sit
(34:28):
on the couch and you're kind of watching the Cowboys game,
but you're kind of not and they kind of stink.
But it kind of doesn't matter because it's not the
traditional viewing experience. Just Thanksgiving care free football where you
can just sit back, relax and not care.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I am up at number two, and I purposely gave
myself number two because I thought this would be there
at number two. Three letters and ap. Who doesn't love
the Thanksgiving Day nap? Whether I come at three o'clock
in the afternoon in between lunch and and your dinner,
or of comes at six fifteen after eight at four
point thirty, whatever the case is, give me the nap
(35:06):
at number two. Iowa, Sam, you're up at number three.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I'm going to go back to my childhood days, and
maybe my teenage days were still living under the roof
of my parents' home and going over to my grandma
Helen's house and she'd bust out the fine china, especially
these little tiny wineglasses.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
And when I was finally of a not.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Of age but old enough to just have like a
couple of little a couple of little drips of wine
as a kid, that really was special. And just all
the silver at the silverware she'd polish up before the
getting some wine, little wine as a kid. Yeah, but
she would always get out this really this fancy china
that you only broke out for Christmas or Easter or
(35:48):
or you know, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
So I do want to let people know. The Bears
have a fourth and four at the Lion's forty four
yard line. They are going for it, not kicking a
field goal that could tie it. It would have been
a lengthy one, but the Bears do get it. There
seemed to be some crossing traffic in front with players
on the field, but there's no flag. Bears. Now, now
(36:10):
there is a flag. We'll find out what it is
after Shay gives us his first round pick.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I'm gonna need some help here, guys, because I don't
know if this will count. The Eve of Thanksgiving is
known as blackout Wednesday. Yeah, I'm good with that, and
that's something I gotta have to go with it's I
see my friends, I get to drink. It's a good time.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
And I I like how you just insert yourself in that.
You could have easily been like, yeah, you know, I
hear that. It's a busy bar night. Everybody has fun.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
No, I was out last night and you were just
like bro.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I don't even know how I made it to work.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
By the way, it was offensive pass interference. Cole Comet
basically set a moving pick coming across the middle, so
the Bears did not get the first down the left
fourth them long. All right, Shay, you got a second
round pick quick. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
This is an older thing that I used to do.
It was the backyard football game. We used to play
all the time. It was either out or baseball, and
we always had a good time doing that.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
All right, right, Sam at number six opting for a
ham instead of a turkey sometimes, especially again with Gramma
Helen getting getting some ham, which ham underrated. Sometimes on holidays,
I'm gonna do the day after leftovers. Yeah, let's live
it up with the leftovers on Friday.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I like that, all right. Erin Torre's last pick here.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I'll tell you that was my pick. So we can
call it a game right there, and oh there's a flag.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
This is game time.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
On the have the Chicago Bear has just been bailed
out by the referees. He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer.
We talk about it next on Friends Giving on Fox
Sports Radio.
This is the best of the Don dott Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours and aeron Torres. Just
as we start this show, the Chicago Bears have gotten
into the end zone again. We have a ballgame in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
We do Dan Byer. First of all, how are you
happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
A very happy Thanksgiving to you. I am doing very
well and this has become a tradition here on Fox
Sports Radio. How are things with you on this Thanksgiving
eron Torres?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Everything's good, Everything's good. I want to give a quick
shout out to our board Op well one. I love
Iowa Sam, but Mary Mack I'm traveling this week and
Mary Mack an arm and a leg. We spent a
lot of time making sure that I got set up
that I sounded good for today's show, So big thank.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You to her.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But yes, I travel every year for Thanksgiving, but it
has become I think a two or three year tradition
at this point that me and you rock out here
for a couple hours and I always have fun doing it.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It is a great time. As we are broadcasting from
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told you the Bears got into the end zone. They
went for two to try to make it a one
possession game. They were unable to capitalize. So it is
(01:18):
a twenty three thirteen Lions lead over the Chicago Bears
early in the fourth quarter. We'll keep you up to
date on what's happening there and we'll dive back into
the Lions and where they are on this whole thing.
But it is Thanksgiving, and it is a special Thanksgiving.
Aaron Torres, I think this is our twenty third annual
Thanksgiving show that you and I have done together here
(01:39):
on Fox Sports Radio. And so it's not just a
regular show. It's something much more than that.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh wait a second, wait a second, here is at.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
The door bell.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It sounds like, let's use at the let's use at
the door here.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's the buyer in Torres friends Giving on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Head guys, I was said, Thanksgiving, all right, welcome to
having Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I brought some some scalped potatoes, and his zesty salad.
Thanks so much for having me. Hey, how would you
stick around for the next couple of hours hang out
with us? I'd love to that. That would be great.
It's a friends giving here. It's not just Aaron and I.
It's Iowa, Sam, Aaron and I and you here on
Fox Sports Radio eight seven seven nine nine non Fox
eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine.
(02:29):
If you hear anything that we talk about and want
to chime in, feel free to do so. We've got
some friends stopping by throughout the day as well.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Uh d Dan Okay, I was gonna say so. I
actually I did invite Arnie Spanier to our our friends giving.
One minute ago on Twitter he posted, just got the
second car stuck in the snow?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Can we go for three? So I was already not
planning on having him.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But I think it's kind of good that he did
the upfront cancelation on us, because, uh, you know, listen,
you can plan a friends giving, you can you know,
you can send out the invite in advance, but you
just never know who's gonna get a car stuck in
the snow, or maybe three cars stuck in the snow.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
The way Ernie Spaniard. The stick of genius is gone.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That is amazing. He never turns down an invite, turned
us down, and now there may be a reason because
he's continued. Oh wait, wait, Peo, who's at the door?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Thank Friends Giving Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's producer Shay. How happy Thanksgiving? How are you?
Speaker 7 (03:35):
I didn't bring scal potatoes. I just brought my hungry
stomach and are ready to go mentality.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We will have some food for you here on Fox
Sports Radio, not only food for thought, but actual food here.
And we want everybody to be welcomed. We know that
maybe people don't have places to go, maybe you are
in the process of going somewhere, and we want you
to just feel at home here. We are in for
Doug Gottlieb, but it is a friends Giving. We're actually
gonna be in for Cavino and Rich as well. We're
(04:02):
here with you for the next four hours here on
Fox Sports Radio on this Thanksgiving Day. So Iowa Sam
has already sat down at the the old couch and
is taking in some Lions Bears football action. Shay, you
know what, you can keep your shoes on, Shay. You
don't even have to take him off. Don't even worry
about it. So you're gonna get the carpets cleaned and
everything the day after, So it doesn't it doesn't doesn't matter.
(04:24):
We're gonna have guests popping in throughout the show. It's
gonna be a very fun friends Giving here on Fox
Sports Radio, I will.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Say Shay saying I showed up with absolutely nothing but
an empty stomach. That sounds like Arnie Spanier if he
actually would have made it without, you know, without getting
his car.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Arnie is very generous come Christmas time. So there no no, no, no, no, no, no,
let's let's you know, there's a big asterisk there.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You actually have to work with him, cause I got
you know, I got that maple syrup and the pancake
mix for about three four years running and then, to
use a bad Thanksgiving pun, it all went cold turkey.
He went cold turkey on me, and so uh so, yeah,
so I have yet to have I haven't had the
maple syrup in a couple of years because quote, it's
(05:07):
only for people that I work with the good thing is,
you know, we we we stocked it up at the
Torres House and we we ration out that Vermont maple
syrup because it is really good. But yeah, I haven't
got I haven't been on uh. I guess I've been
on Arnie's naughty list. Not to get too far ahead
of ourselves on the holidays, but I guess I'm on
Arnie's naughty list for the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It happens to you. We won't maybe get Arnie live,
but we will get him on Memory X here on
Fox Sports Radio. I do want to say this, and
then we will get into actual sports talk. But it
is a friends get together. This isn't just your normal
Thanksgiving show. That's not what this is gonna be about.
This is gonna be us having some fun, having a
(05:47):
good time, trading stories. We're gonna get some friends from
our past coming in that have joined us on previous shows,
maybe current friends as well joining us. And again I'm
opening up the phone lines erin because there's going to
be some talk about the Lions. There's going to be
a lot of talk about college football. And if you're
alone on Thanksgiving you need a friend, you can come
(06:09):
on over to our house here on Fox Sports Radio.
That's why we're doing it. You can also find Aaron
on X at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me
at dan Byer on Fox. I am also on Blue
Sky and I've been on Blue Sky for about a year,
a little less than a year, but I've been doing
it for the last month. I know there's been a
huge craze. I'm not leaving X by any means, but
(06:31):
Dan Byer on Blue Sky b e y e r
if you want to find me erin. I don't know
if you've made the jump yet. If you have, I've
not been able to follow you. But that's where you
can find me as well.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Big on TikTok to dan Byer. Yes, dam Byer's the
guy does all the dances and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I do have a TikTok it is buyer talk, but
I have not posted much there. Aeron Torres will give
you some stuff there as well. So this is where
we are on this friends giving here on Fox Sports Radio.
The Lions now in a bit of a dog fight
in a good football game against the Chicago Bears, and
there'll be some more Lions talk because Aaron's got some
thoughts on Detroit and where they are as a football team.
(07:06):
In this twenty twenty four edition of The National Football
League season that's coming up in about ten minutes or so.
But let's just sit back erin and laugh at all
the people that wanted to take the Lions off of
Thanksgiving for so many years that they didn't want Detroit.
They said this was bad football. My only defense is
someone who has loved watching this Lions team win or lose.
(07:29):
I'm not a Lions fan at all, but it's part
of my Thanksgiving. It's what I remember most when I
went over to ant Betty's house. That's where our Thanksgiving
was always held. The Lions game was always going on,
and you would not have those memories. You would not
have that carryover from when you're a child to when
you're an adult if you would have got rid of
(07:50):
the Lions on Thanksgiving. And now that crowd of those
who said we want better football, get this team off
my TV. It's been pretty silent the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Zero doubt.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
And I'll say, first of all, I'm with you, and
it's not just because the lines are good and it does.
It obviously makes it a more intriguing game, especially with
Caleb Williams number one.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Overall pick et cetera.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But I'm with you from the perspective of do we
have to kill every tradition in sports?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I was thinking about this today, is that, you know,
college football has historically played the egg Bowl on Thanksgiving.
And I went on social media on Twitter on next
this morning.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I saw a lot of.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
People, Wait a second, there's no egg Bowl today, There's
no egg Ball today.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
And it's like, I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You know, Mississippi State wasn't project for people who don't
follow college football. That was old miss Mississippi State every
every Thanksgiving night, you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And it's like I get that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I don't know if they don't want to compete with
the NFL or if you know, Mississippi State isn't expected
to be.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Good whatever, but it's like it's kind of tradition.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You're not watching because you expect to see the best football,
but it's just really fun. I mean, if you remember
last year, I think one of the coaches came out
on a four wheeler if I'm not mistaken, and it's
just and so I was like, we don't care, Like,
we don't watch because it's the Egg Bowl unless you're
probably a fan of one of those two schools. But
we watch because it's tradition, and so I bring it
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up to bring it full circle to your point, there
are gonna be years where the Lions are good and
the Lions are bad. By the way, as we're learning,
there are gonna be plenty of years where the Cowboys
are not a team that you want to feature in
a standalone game.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But it's tradition.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I like the Lakers on Christmas Day. I like college
football on New Year's Day. So darn it, we fought
the fight, Dan Byer. We have kept the Lions, and
the good news is they have rewarded us, as you said,
for sticking with them through all these years.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It is such a part of that and I've always
felt that it's nice to if the team's not competitive,
if the game's not competitive, that's fine as well. You
can sit there and visit with family and do what
you need to do. But I don't want the biggest
games of the year. I don't need to see the
Lions Chiefs on Thanksgiving. This is a nice, delicious match
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up here. And if we we add Lions Packers, which
by the way, we get next week on Thursday Night Football,
that'll be a dandy one. Then so be it. But
I'm not in dire need of having the greatest games
always come on holidays. I don't think that I need that.
I'd rather almost watch casually if I could. And I
just I never understood the angst of why people were
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so mad at watching the Lions, and maybe they just
didn't have that sort of childhood connection to that game
or to what it means. But the Lions are having
the last laugh, and to your point, now we're sitting
there laughing at the Cowboys, and I don't hear any
complaints about that, because maybe people do enjoy watching Dallas lose,
But to me, it's a tradition that has continued. And
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for the NFL, who usually caters to everything or or
bends towards something, for them to not do that, I
am very very happy.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, no, exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And I think the other thought too about all of
this is what you said is the important part is listen.
And you and I take very seriously what we do.
But but you know it's we're probably a little bit
more of a casual listen today than we would be
the day after the super Bowl. And you know, a
standalone game usually means something Sunday night football, Monday night football,
Thursday night football playoff.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Game, whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But to your point, there aren't if you're not a
Bears or Lions fan, there aren't a lot or maybe
maybe you made a small wager on the game, Like,
there aren't people that are just sitting there, you know,
in front of the two feet from the TV, hanging
on every whim of this game. It's casual, you're with
your family, you have it on in the background. I
mean even here where I am with my family. We
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had it on the background this morning as we had
a couple bites to eat early, and we'll obviously have
the late game on as we eat our traditional dinner.
And it's you know, again, every football game matters, blah
blah blah whatever. But it's like, not everything has to
be everything, and it's okay to just have a game
on in the background, enjoy your family. And I think,
to your counterpoint, what if it was Chiefs line, Like
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I'd actually be kind of mad if it was Chiefs lines,
because I'd be like, I gotta be invested in this, Sorry, Grandma.
You know, we'll talk later, like we'll do the puzzle out,
you know later. I got to watch Patrick Mahomes here,
So I like that it is that it I just
like the tradition one. But to your point, it is
kind of a casual watching experience as opposed to a
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lot of the other football that we normally watch.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And here's the cool thing about today's show as well.
With us here on Fox Sports Radios, we're going to
keep you up to date of what's happening on Bears Lions.
We'll let you know. I do the Red Zone radio
show on Sunday afternoons with Carrie Rhodes, So I feel
like I almost have it within me to give the
updates of the games that are going on. So it
is a twenty three to thirteen lead by the Lions
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over the Bears, eleven forty five left to go, but
Chicago's got the football back, so we've got some We've
got some excitement going on at least on this Thanksgiving Day,
and hopefully it carries through with Giants Cowboys, even though
it's Drew Locke versus Cooper Rush and Dolphins Packers tonight
should be fun. He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer
the Detroit Line right now. Do you have the NFL's
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best record just that one loss right now on their ledger,
alongside the Kansas City Chiefs, who also have that ten
to one mark. There may not be an argument on
if the Lions are the best team in the National
Football League in twenty twenty four, but is there a
bigger picture to look at with the Lions. He's erin Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. It's a Buyer and Torres Thanksgiving that's
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coming up next from the Tyraq dot Com studios here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's the Buyer and Torres Friendsgiving on Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. It's the Buyer
and Torres Friendsgiving on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
As we sit in for Doug Gottlieb, he is eron Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. A happy Thanksgiving and unhappy Thanksgiving for
the Chicago Bears, but a very very happy one for
the Detroit Lions who picked up that twenty three to
twenty win erin and yeah, just just an amazing, amazing
ending and all the wrong reasons for the Chicago Bears,
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but a great, great ending for the Detroit Lions. They
have now won a franchise record ten straight. Joining us
now on our friends Giving here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's at the door. He's Lions wide receiver Tim Patrick.
Tim Patrick, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy friends Giving. Can you explain
to me what was going through your mind is the
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seconds we're ticking away watching the Chicago Bears on offense
in those final waning seconds of today's game.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Happy Thanksgiving to you guys who Honestley, I don't know
what happened. I'm not having gonna lie to you. I
know it third and long. Obviously they didn't want to
spike it if they had a timeout, they didn't call
a timeout. Uh, I'll kind of shock. And then when
he threw it up and they said the time is out,
Oh it's not. We wont is that?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Do you guys have Like do you have a procedure
it is like, does does Ben Johnson call the time out?
Is Dan Campbell call the time out of Jared Goff?
Like do you guys have a plan in place if
there ever is chaos like that for an offense at
the end of the game.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
Yeah, we definitely have a plan and for all that stuff.
That's why it was kind of I was just approably
got to happen. I'm not gonna lie because they had
a time out, right Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah, that speaks for ourselves, so we'll believe it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
After that, Tim, I was gonna ask you, let me
let me ask you this. Uh Dan, Dan, my co
host mentioned Dan Campbell. Just tell us what it's like
to be with that man day in and day out,
because I think everybody that watches football is jealous that
you get to be part of this this thing that
he's building and everybody's building in Detroit.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Yeah, you said it right, Uh what you see from
Dan and uh, the same guy every day. Man. Uh
it's literally it's amazing to go to war with him
and you never want to let him down. He has us,
high expectations for us, and he just trying to meet
those expectations each week, each day, each minute, and uh man,
he's a lock of this team.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Tom Patrick joining us here on Fox Sports Radio two
catches forty eight yards and the Lions victory over the
Bears to improve to eleven and one. I mentioned the
ten straight victories. How do you guard against Tim peaking
too soon. It's a long, long NFL season. You guys
have bigger goals than just a ten game winning streak
in the regular season. How do you guard against maybe
peaking too soon in this campaign.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
I don't think we're peaking too soon. I feel like
we I don't think we played good as an offense.
I don't think we played good at all today. We
made the play that we needed to make to win,
But peak in I don't think when I think we
have obviously a lot of work to do. Personally, I
don't like the way I play as I made two catches,
but the play that you guys didn't see, I didn't
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like him. So I think as a whole we're definitely
not peaking. We just find ways to win, and that's
what you have to do in this.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Week, Tim, very simple question for you. You know we
know in the backfield they're Sonic and Knuckles. Do you
A'mona Ross, Saint Brown Jamison?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
What you do?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Do you guys have a nickname? Because if not, we
got to get you one. Like the Nasty Boys, the
Wild Boys, you got anything for us?
Speaker 8 (17:07):
We don't got nothing, But I'll give you all control
of that. Make it cool, make it, make it, make
it gritty.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
The Wild Boys used to be Dan was the Nasty Boys,
was the Cincinnati Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
If I want to steal that.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
It got to be crazy too fast?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
How about too fast, too furious? I don't know if
there's a trademark on that.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
No jam fast ones.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
But you're furious, though, you're the furious one.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Uh, Let's let me get something a little bit more,
a little scarier.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
We got two hours on air to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll work shop it, Tim before we
let you go. I know that the career has been crazy.
You've battled through some injuries, Like, it hasn't been easy
for you. What's it like now you're on the NFL's
team with the best record in the National Football that
you guys are heading towards the playoffs. What is this
season been like for you so far into right?
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Uh, it's been It's been different, but a good different.
I've never won this Minion game before. I've never been
on a winning streak before like this, And honestly, it's
just like I feel like we're we're in a way
of we're breaking a record each week with each win
and I'm just thankful and I just honestly, I just
want to live up to the hype each day, each week.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, you guys are the hype. You're living up to
it for sure as a team. Tim Patrick, appreciate you
stopping by our friends giving. Happy Thanksgiving to you and
yours and best of luck the rest of the season.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Happy thank you to you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Thank you all right, Tim, Tim Patrick, wide receiver of
the Detroit Lions, stopping by. Man, he couldn't even believe
what the Bears did in the winning second.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know, he was trying to be so diplomatic about it,
and I respect that. I understand you don't want to
talk about another team given boaltim board material. But you
could tell he was like, yeah, no, that's something that
we practice every week and should should have a little
bit more under control.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So, hey, Dan, I got a question for you.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah I think I'm hearing Oh wait, yeah, you want
to go see what it is?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, he's at the far In Torres Friendsgiving on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Whoa is that?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Jason Martin Fox Sports Radio happen to two am Eastern
every Saturday.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Jason Mort's happening.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Hey, Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Yeah, so Thanksgiving to you guys. That was kind of
tough listening to Tim Patrick. He's a former Bronco and
of course I'm a Broncos fan, and he sounded like
he was having a blast. He was saying, I've never
been on a win streak before.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I've never won this fake games before.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
It's like, yeah, let's let's let's not Uh, that won't
be something I'll be thinking thinking thanking the war for
later on today.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Although this season's been a lot better. So Jamar, let
me ask you.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I mean, you know, we're on air trying to react
this to this in real time. I mean, are you
with family? Are you with the daughters? I mean, one,
first of all, Happy Thanksgiving? Two, how are you spending
the holiday? But then three, where were you when the
Chicago Bears did not know how to run too many offense?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I was sitting in a chair.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
My two daughters were taking their afternoon nap before we
head over to my in laws for dinner here in
a little while, and I.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Sat there and watched it was It's like, Wow, Caleb's
gonna pull this off.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Except for the fact that bad football teams, especially ones
that have discipline issues and sideline coaching issues tend to
find ways to lose games.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
That are baffling.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
There's something good teams do and it's not do stuff
like what we just saw right there between Eberflus and
Williams both. I mean, Williams can't be completely absolved here
because he wasn't aggressive enough doing that. But I'm starre
watching it, baffled, Like just like Tim Patrick said, they
did have a time out, right, yeah, and you guys
said yes, And his response was, well, that pretty much
speaks for itself.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
He's like, yeah, bears are idiots.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Like really, he didn't say that, but that's exactly what
he meant. I don't know that I've ever seen something
that napt. I how does Matt.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Eberflus keep his job for twenty four more hours?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Like?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I understand stand it's Thanksgiving, but really, let.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Me hop in on this really quick, and Dan you
can ask the next question. But this is a stat
via Josh Dubou of the AP two hundred and twenty
one coaches have twenty plus career games decided by seven
points or fewer. Matt Eberflus's two twenty seven win percentage
in those games five and seventeen overall ranks two hundred
and twenty first out of two hundred and twenty one coaches.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, and by the way, that that was another way
of saying the stat that CBS had five and eighteen
since twenty twenty two in one score games. Now five
and nineteen, that's awful completely. The worst part about the
Eberflus thing was that they actually used to time out
when the clock was stopped on the same possession. Like
my goodness, oh jeez, we brought you on j martintot
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college football and then here Matt Eberflus goes all Eberflus
on our friends giving And that's all that we're talking
about here. But let's talk a little bit college football.
Are you cool with the rankings? Do you have problems
with the rankings? I got gripes.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I don't like.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I don't like how it's being set up. Right now
you would have Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon on the right side.
Are you good with all of this that will settle
out in the end or is there anything that's in
your crawl right now? After these first few weeks of this,
these rankings and brackets coming out.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Well, I mean there's some there's definitely some things that
kind of make you raise your eyebrow. You're just like,
are they going to try to find a way to
get Alabama in this thing? Are they going to try
to find a way to leap frog Clemson somewhere? Are
they trying to find a way to keep Indiana out.
There's a lot of different conspiracy theories. But I think
what we've come to recognize throughout the course of this season, guys,
is nothing seems to be going according to play week
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to week. There've been a couple of absolutely just crazy weeks,
and there's no reason to end there's no reason to
feel like we're not maybe game for another one of
those Like it's like, well, what happens if Clemson beats
South Carolina? What happens if South Carolina beats Clemson and
all this? One of those two things will happen. But
there's gonna be something that that makes this even worse.
What are the biggest issues that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You have, Dan, I, Well, what I have is the
committee going through their rankings now and then what we
do is we put it into a bracket. And what
we have been seeing and what we saw this past
week was sec versus SEC, Big Ten versus Big Ten,
and ACC against what I call pseudo ACC with Notre
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Dame being our first round games, and in that bracket
you had Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon on one side
of that bracket, which I thought was very, very top heavy.
The NCAA Tournament Selection Committee in basketball makes adjustments off
of their rankings. They don't want conference opponents. If conference
opponents play against each other in the seed line, they'll
alter it, they'll make moves. And since they're not putting
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it into a bracket, I don't want to see Indiana
at Penn State. I'm going to see it next year.
I've seen it for the last twenty five years. I
don't need to see that again. What I want to
see is Indiana at Georgia, Penn State home to Tennessee
or something like that. So that's my issue with it.
If the committee is going to keep it this way,
and I think that they are, because otherwise what's the
point of doing this, then I think we are in
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danger of having some whole hum first round matchups, which
I think takes a lot of the buzz out of
the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I mean, I think that's fair.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
I mean, the one thing you don't want is a
bunch of rematches, and you don't want the thing that
you get most of the time. Popping back up, I
think the issue that you have is if you are
seeding the teams, you still have to reward those seeds
in terms of the value of the opponents that they play,
and not just do it based on the matchups. But
I do think there's a balance concern there, especially if
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you end up with Georgia Tennessee for the second time, yeah,
or even Ohio State Penn State for a second time,
or however else it might play out. Those are the
matchups that we've already seen this and unless we're going
to see it in a conference championship game, which is
its own problem, I don't know that that's the best
That's not the best way to market the sport. The
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whole point of having twelve teams is hopefully to create
some unique matchups and some different hurdles, different obstacles for
who ultimately comes through and wins the thing.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Jamart, last week, obviously you and I were coming on
air g Jason Martin host with myself Er Tors eleven
to two am Eastern time, so eleven pm to two
am Eastern every Saturday, and we do a lot of
college football. Obviously, we were coming off fresh off that
Alabama loss of earlier in the day Old Miss Indiana.
Is there one game that you kind of have your
eye on this coming weekend and rivalry weekend that you
think could shake some things up.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
There's a piece of me that has my eye on
Georgia Georgia Tech, just because Georgia Tech's been very pesky
against good opponents this year, and certainly they've done it.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
They've had a good job.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
I mean, the Georgia team that we saw last week,
we're not gonna have to worry about that one. But
george has been very jekyling heidish. As have a lot
of these teams this year. I don't look, for instance,
at Ohio State Michigan, even though that'll be a it
might be a tougher game. I just think Ohio State's
way too talented right now at Texas A and M
and Texas is just going to be a great atmosphere,
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So I just want to watch that game.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
But the one I'm keeping my eye on in terms.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Of Georgia better watch out is that Georgia Tech game
if you had to, If I had to pick.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
One, wouldn't it be crazy if Lincoln Riley and USC
do the craziest?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I was thinking that, Yeah, oh Notre Dame. Mister, everybody
mocks him from the CC country? Is you know the
guy who potentially knocks a Notre Dame out.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Of Let me let me ask both of you this.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I know they haven't really played like super substantial opponents.
If you look at some of Notre Dame's defensive stats,
I mean, they're number one in past defense and they're
like one hundred yards better than like like their turnovers,
forced intersept are we Is it possible that Notre Dame
is being undervalued or is it just the competition is
bad and once they play a real team, we're gonna
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see who they really are. I don't I don't know
if either of you has a strong opinion on that,
but I was just thinking about that this week.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I think it's hard to I think it's hard to tell. Yeah,
just real quick.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
I think it's hard to tell because their schedule is
so much different than so many others.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
And we've seen this.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Before where we've gotten really excited, where guys have gotten
really excited about Notre Dame and then they should up
and they don't measure up. I don't know that that's
the case here. I'm still skeptical that they're quite up
to snuff when it comes down to it against the
top guys, especially in the trenches.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It's a little bit opposite of the SEC where you
have so much of the well they beat them, yeah,
but they lost to them, and they beat them, And
like Notre Dame schedule, even though there's it's ACC Leyden
doesn't lend to that. And then with the ACC being
so bad and the teams that they didn't play from
the ACC, I just didn't think that they had an
opportunity at any point to really really impress the voters
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or impress a resume. The rankings are fine, what are
they fifth? And the A people and you know, and
I just don't think that the seventh in these rankings,
I think they were I just don't think they've had
the opportunity to really impress because of where of how
their schedule is laid out, Like you didn't have a Clemson,
you didn't have Miami on that schedule. So there's never
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been an opportunity outside of week one and that was
negated after the end and you lost. So yeah, maybe
this week, but still then if they win, then it's
just that's a bad Lincoln Riley USC team. We shall
see j Mar thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Oh yeah, appreciate you guys. Man Happy Thanksgiving. Oh yeah,
you guys are hosting today. I'll be hosting in the
morning with Brian no at six am Eastern side.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So all right, right, get a nappen as well. All right,
Jason Martin, thanks for coming by. Take some leftovers while
you're on your way.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Indeed, appreciate you, brothers. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He's Erin Torres. I'm dan Byer. It is a friends
giving here on Fox Sports Radio Iowa. Sam is here,
Shay's hanging out. Thanks to Tim Patrick of the Lions
for joining us as well. Cowboys and Giants are just underway.
Dallas has got the ball at midfield. Just a couple
of minutes in that scoreless affair, plus a bunch of
college basketball going on. Hearin Torres will have his top
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ten is. We are with you until seven o'clock Eastern
time for Pacific is. We'll also be hanging out in
for Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. So
Aaron and I are not just done after the Doug
Gottlieb Show. If you want to hang out, you can
reach them at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox. Wait till you hear what
it sounded like, not only on the Lions Radio network,
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but how Bears fans handled the final seconds of their
devastating loss to the Lions. You'll hear it next on Fox.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. It's
the Buyer and Torres Friendsgiving on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
As we are sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today, a
happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. He is eron Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. Two twelve to go in Detroit. The
Bears have the football first and ten and it's a
three point game. The Bears didn't get their first first
down until late in the first half, and now they
have the ball right at the fifty yard line, not
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only with an opportunity to possibly tie this game, but
even take the lead. Detroit is all three of their timeouts.
Chicago too is now the clock is ticked down to
the two minute warning. But quite the reversal of fortunes.
And for as much praise as we just gave the Lions,
there was a Jamiir Gibbs fumble inside the Bears five
yard line when they really could have sealed this deal.
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He fumbled, it was recovered by Chicago, and right now
that would be the play that the Lions are ruining
as they are trying to hold off the Chicago Bears
drive that started basically at their own half inch yard line.
They've gotten halfway there. Now they got the other half
to go eron Torres in the next two minutes.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, Dan, you're burying the lead.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
The Lions have essentially fallen apart since I tried to
make the argument in our pre show meeting that they
can be a historically great team. They were up like
twenty three. I don't know what the exects, but they
were basically on cruise control. Yeah, and in no why
literally as we signed on touchdown Bears and all of
a sudden it was a game. And so you know,
(30:59):
I don't know about the tourist Thanksgiving jinks here, but
it's basically been since I made the argument, should we
be talking about them as a historically great team that
they've completely fallne I am.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Going to give you a golf analogy, sure, and I'm
going to use two separate players to do it. I
truly feel when Rory McElroy is playing his best, no
one can beat him. When he is at the top
of his game, no one can beat him. It doesn't mean,
it doesn't mean that he's the best player. Just if
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everybody was at their A plus game, I would take
Rory McElroy over anybody else. And that argument also then
goes to when you're talking about Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods,
who played you know, who's who's the goat, Who's the
greatest of all time? It's really hard to argue that
anybody played the sport better than Tiger Woods did like
it truly is and I even think we think of
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that with Aaron Rodgers. But if you had to take
every team play their A plus game in the NFL
this year, and I think that's what you're not alluding to,
but that could be a part of your conversation, the
Lions would be that team. They would be the that
would be the team that would win every game if
everybody was playing at their A plus level.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, I think that's actually the perfect way to describe it. Yeah, no,
And it's no different than any other sport, is that. Listen,
I'm a guy who picked the Lions, but it's still
put them on a neutral field against Kansas City. It's like, well,
you know, Kansas City. They've been in so many big
spots lines last year in the NFC Championship game. Whatever
the point I'm trying to make is it's exactly that is.
(32:32):
Saying the Lions are the best team right now, or
saying they have the most upside, or saying that at
their best they are the best team doesn't mean that
they're a runaway anything. And I think that's actually the
perfect way to describe them right now. They look the part,
they play the part, but there are still obviously questions
that have to be answered about them.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Hey, when the friends are over for Thanksgiving, let's play
a game.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
By the way, CBS just put a graphic up. Bears
are five and eighteen in games decided by one possession,
worst in the NFL since twenty twenty two, So the
bears of that going for them or not? All right?
The the game today, Iowa, sam is I feel it?
Four person draft, two rounds, eight picks and all. It'll
(33:20):
start with aeron Torres picking first. I'll pick second, Samuel r. Third, Shay.
You get back to back picks at four and five.
As we reverse said, Thanksgiving traditions that have well really
nothing to do with the side dishes that you want
to eat. So Thanksgiving traditions, but please leave out mashed potatoes,
collar green sweet potato pie, the whole deal. Thanksgiving traditions
(33:44):
that you love on Thanksgiving Day. Erin Torres your first up.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, and before the break, I think you teased, like
you know, kind of ones that you don't immediately think of.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I don't think it's that. I just think it is
what are the things that you love about Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And I'll just I was just to keep the listener, Aaron,
don't worry about that. Yeah, that just make sure they
didn't leave their car.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I wanted to make sure that I explained myself well
when we discussed this listen. I'll take an easy number one.
It's what we led the show with. It's sitting on
the couch, relaxing and enjoying some care free football. Unless
your alliance are a Cowboys fan, is that you know,
there's nothing better than you know, kind of that post
that post lunch or post dinner. You know, you sit
(34:28):
on the couch and you're kind of watching the Cowboys game,
but you're kind of not and they kind of stink.
But it kind of doesn't matter because it's not the
traditional viewing experience. Just Thanksgiving care free football where you
can just sit back, relax and not care.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I am up at number two, and I purposely gave
myself number two because I thought this would be there
at number two. Three letters and ap. Who doesn't love
the Thanksgiving Day nap? Whether I come at three o'clock
in the afternoon in between lunch and and your dinner,
or of comes at six fifteen after eight at four
point thirty, whatever the case is, give me the nap
(35:06):
at number two. Iowa, Sam, you're up at number three.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I'm going to go back to my childhood days, and
maybe my teenage days were still living under the roof
of my parents' home and going over to my grandma
Helen's house and she'd bust out the fine china, especially
these little tiny wineglasses.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
And when I was finally of a not.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Of age but old enough to just have like a
couple of little a couple of little drips of wine
as a kid, that really was special. And just all
the silver at the silverware she'd polish up before the
getting some wine, little wine as a kid. Yeah, but
she would always get out this really this fancy china
that you only broke out for Christmas or Easter or
(35:48):
or you know, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
So I do want to let people know. The Bears
have a fourth and four at the Lion's forty four
yard line. They are going for it, not kicking a
field goal that could tie it. It would have been
a lengthy one, but the Bears do get it. There
seemed to be some crossing traffic in front with players
on the field, but there's no flag. Bears. Now, now
(36:10):
there is a flag. We'll find out what it is
after Shay gives us his first round pick.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
I'm gonna need some help here, guys, because I don't
know if this will count. The Eve of Thanksgiving is
known as blackout Wednesday. Yeah, I'm good with that, and
that's something I gotta have to go with it's I
see my friends, I get to drink. It's a good time.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
And I I like how you just insert yourself in that.
You could have easily been like, yeah, you know, I
hear that. It's a busy bar night. Everybody has fun.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
No, I was out last night and you were just
like bro.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I don't even know how I made it to work.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
By the way, it was offensive pass interference. Cole Comet
basically set a moving pick coming across the middle, so
the Bears did not get the first down the left
fourth them long. All right, Shay, you got a second
round pick quick. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
This is an older thing that I used to do.
It was the backyard football game. We used to play
all the time. It was either out or baseball, and
we always had a good time doing that.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
All right, right, Sam at number six opting for a
ham instead of a turkey sometimes, especially again with Gramma
Helen getting getting some ham, which ham underrated. Sometimes on holidays,
I'm gonna do the day after leftovers. Yeah, let's live
it up with the leftovers on Friday.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I like that, all right. Erin Torre's last pick here.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
I'll tell you that was my pick. So we can
call it a game right there, and oh there's a flag.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
This is game time.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
On the have the Chicago Bear has just been bailed
out by the referees. He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer.
We talk about it next on Friends Giving on Fox
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