December 13, 2024 • 48 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for Doug as they discuss the 49ers' loss to the Rams Thursday night and linebacker De'Vondre Campbell refusing to go into the game.
Dan and Monse talk about sports media celebrities, or whatever that means.
Dan presents the 49ers with their obituary. Monse and Dan welcome Former Bucs' GM Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about De'Vondre Campbell, Sam Darnold and all of the other major headlines.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Too bad, So sad, end of an era, See you later,
Bye bye, Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a Friday, Monty.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
That's right. How exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What a week we've got in the NFL, and what
a way to start it out last night with a
punt passing kick contest in Santa Clara Rams and Niners.
Get us started at week fifteen. We hope for a
little more action than we got last night and what
proofs will prove to be one of the better weeks
that we get in the National Football League season.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
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night in that game. We are broadcasting live from the
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Speaker 2 (01:07):
No, and you probably shouldn't be walking off the field
in the third quarter. Well yeah, that seems to be
the overriding effect. And don't you worry. Don't you worry,
you Rams fans or you Seahawks fanststan or you Cardinals
fans or Packers fans or Lions fans or Chiefs fans.
(01:28):
We're gonna get to the demise of the San Francisco
forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We will.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But what seems to be overshadowing what transpired last night
and what has transpired over these first fifteen weeks of
this NFL season. The overshadowing is Devondre Campbell quitting on
his football team. This is something that honestly, Manzi, I
have been on social media for the last what twelve
hours eighteen hours since this happened. Around that point, I
(01:56):
have not seen one person say I agree with Devondre Campbell.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
This is not a polarizing topic.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It is one though that needs to be I don't know,
I guess dug into a little bit. Let's first of all,
hear from some of the parties at hand, including forty
nine Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan happened.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
With Defondra Campbell. He didn't play it and he went
into the locker room at some point. Yeah, he didn't
said he didn't want to play to day played today. Yeah,
the coaching staff.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
He didn't when I asked him, why didn't want to
go in during the game or before that was in
the third quarter.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
How does that ever happened to you where a player
said they didn't want to play in the game.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, he got demoted for this game.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
He was not going to play. No, he was going
to go in when Drake came out.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Okay, So that's kind of the portion of this. This
whole deal is. Last night was the return of Drake
green Law for the San Francisco forty nine Ers, who
hadn't played in a game since Super Bowl fifty eight.
Nobody is taking the side of Devondre Campbell on social media.
I will not do that for effect Mazi, But does
(02:57):
Devondre Campbell at least have an argument to say, I've
given my body for this team throughout this season, and
now all of a sudden, you welcome your veteran linebacker
back and you want to throw me into a game
sparingly or in the third quarter? Is there any leg
to stand on? As I look at our leg lamp
here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, does Devonder Campbell
(03:19):
have any leg to stand on? Because of the return
of Drake green Law.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You have every right to be annoyed frustrated, But no,
you do not have a leg to stand on to
handle it the way that you did.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You have every right to be upset. Yeah, of course
I get it. Who doesn't want to play?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
But we was it Fred Warner or Trent Williams that
were like having green Law out there is like the
greatest thing. Like everybody was expecting him to get back
and got so excited for him to get back. And
as much as it sucks for you, I cannot give
you any leg to stand on because this is a
privilege that an athlete has, not normal people like you
(03:54):
and me, Like he is able to do that because
he's made so much money. But in reality, like if
you and I walked down a job like that, it's
like bye, good luck. He can do that because he's
made money throughout his career and he feels like he's
above it, and it's like congratulations to you, but no,
you have no leg to stand on, especially I think
with the way the season has been for the forty
(04:16):
nine ers, which you and I have talked about, not
just on.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
The field but off the field, It's like, how do
you not want to be there for your brothers?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That is what I think is one of the biggest
misconceptions we have in sports is that everybody is a
brother and everybody is a teammate, and that everybody is
friends and it is it is. It is not true.
You have fifty three players, well, fifty three guys in
a locker room. I know there's more with practice squad,
(04:44):
but fifty three guys. I don't have fifty three friends
in my life, like I don't like we have fifty
three people here at Fox Sports Radio. There are some
that I know better than others. There are some that
I see better than you know more than others, Others
that work different timeslots different So not that I have
ill will against them or that I would quit against them,
I just don't know them. I don't know them as
(05:05):
well as others. And so the Devondre Campbell's sort of
aspect of it, maybe there is that portion of it
maybe your linebacker group, Maybe you owe it to those guys.
Maybe you shouldn't be mad because Drake Greenlaw has been
a part of that group for you. But I do
think that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
For you, Yeah, true, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I do think that the thought process that you owe
it to all fifty three guys is what you do
when you sign up for a team. I just don't
think that's the reality for every athlete that plays that game.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I don't think that they are all best friends. And
I use the word brother because you did agree to
join this team. And I think that's part of being
a sports being in a team sport like that. This
isn't tennis, this isn't golf, right, So I've definitely played
with people I didn't like, But you know what, on
the court, we are best of friends.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The minute that game is over. You're right, I don't
want to have a cocktail with you.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
That's it. It's a responsibility, it's a job, it's a responsibility.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There's also the fact that Kyle Shanahan said today that
Devondra Campbell is not expected to play another down for
the forty nine ers, which is not shocking, but let's
compare that to what happened in Baltimore when Deontay Johnson,
who was acquired in a trade from the Panthers earlier
the season so there was something given to Carolina as
part of a deal, is brought in and he refuses
(06:27):
to go in to their game against Philadelphia. I don't
know if Deontay Johnson's going to play this week against
the Giants. I don't know if John Harbaughs made that
final decision, but it is interesting that the forty nine ers,
who now have really nothing to play for, can make
that easy decision and be like, we're just going to
move on with him. Well, the Ravens were in the
thick of it in the playoffs and may need another
weapon for Lamar Jackson. Are saying we're going to suspend
(06:50):
you for one game and then we'll move on from there.
There's two different things at stake in two different ways
that NFL teams are handling this.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
One percent, and then you just said it even though
the Niners have really nothing to play for anymore at
this point.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
That adds to it.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It's like, what do we It doesn't matter, you can't
you embarrassed us in a year where we have had
so many terrible things happened to us in a year
where you couldn't have planned all the injuries on and
off the field situations. You embarrassed us even more. And
I think that's more of what it is, because I
do you think the Ravens felt embarrassed. I don't the
(07:25):
way San Francisco. San Francisco felt embarrassed by that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And your point about Drake Greenlaw being there longer, yeah,
Red Warner being there longer. They're more invested into the
brand than Devondre Campbell, who's been on multiple teams in
his career, just comes in. I'm not trying to support
Devandre Campbell and I'm not even coming in here and
just trying to play Devil's advocate. I agree for the
if you wanted to, if you wanted to do this
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today and say, you know, a final three games, I'm
not in it. It's I don't want to risk injury
for my rest of my career. You guys really aren't
invested in me. I'm done. Then you dock his game
checks and move on, But not to go in the
game in the third quarter of a game, which, by
the way, I believe they were winning at the time
(08:12):
is a different level, Like Deontay Johnson didn't want to
go into a game that the Ravens were losing, right,
and so like this is opportunity. Whether I believe the
forty nine Ers were ahead.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
At that time, and obviously I think the Ravens may
have known that Deontay Johnson was a little bit frustrated
with lack of usage at that point, which is which
is probably why they suspended him and didn't just cut.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
The relationship completely.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Campbell was in the game at some point, refused to
go back in when Greenlaw got hurt.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Like, there's just so many layers to it, but you're right.
Had he woken up today and.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Just said, you guys, I don't want to play anymore,
we wouldn't even be discussing this. We would still be
saying that the forty nine ers are dead and rip,
but we would not be talking about him deciding to
no longer play. It was the way he did it
left them more embarrassed then they were already feeling when
they scored six.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Points yeah six, yeah, six the issue and you're right,
nine or six, who cares, it's the same thing. The
forty nine ers didn't get the ball past the Rams
twenty seven yard line last night. That is my whole
issue with this is that we are talking about Devondre
Campbell and maybe it's representative of what the forty nine
(09:25):
ers were and what they are now. Maybe that's the
way to encapsulate it. But they were not a good
football team last night. They have not been a good
football team all year, and I think that covers this up.
But it's difficult to get away from from the pride
and just the quitting aspect. I thought George Kittle's comments
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were very telling. This is what the tight end had
to say about Devondre Campbell leaving, and I think this
is where you're going to get the emotion and why
the story is kind of overshadowing what happened on the field.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
That is one p per who just decided not to,
you know, play for his teammates. And I don't think
that that doesn't like does make our office so to
be like, wow, man, you we're falling apart. It's more
of a we're like the defense, Hey, we're falling apart.
It's more of a one person making a like Mooney said.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It a selfish decision.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
And I'm with Mooney on that and I have never
been around anybody that's ever done that, and I hope
I'm never around anybody that does that.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Again, there's a there's a little building up.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He didn't get full of rage, but you could see
like at first he was at a loss for words,
and then he had a lot to say about it.
Doug gets like that too, and Doug gets hot on topics.
He may start slow and then all of a sudden
it rises to a crescendo. And I almost felt like
George Kittle, if he kept talking, would still have been
at that point. But Kittle's one of the old guys.
Kittle's one of the ones that represent that brand and
represent that team. And to have somebody come in and
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tarnish it the way that it is and what's already
been an awful season, it's got to be.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Tough to take.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, And I think that selfish is the right word.
In a team sport. That is one of the most
selfish things, selfish things you could do.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
They couldn't stop Karen Williams either last night.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
No, he had a carries.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, twenty nine carries. You know, it was four
yards per carry. A little shy of that. But it's
also the physicality of what the Rams played with. They
couldn't stop pooking Nakua seven catches ninety seven yards Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So like, if you're the forty nine Ers and you're
the Rams watching last night's game, the Rams, I felt
kind of were doing what the Niners would have liked
to have done, and there had to be like in
the second half of the game, whether it be Karen
Williams or whether it be Blake Koram, it's the Rams
who were making the plays and that were being more
physical and it wasn't the forty nine ers and they
(11:45):
have it be one of your biggest rivals in your division.
To be able to do that, that had to be
tough to take.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And also a team that coming into the season, we're like,
oh we might trade Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're gonna, you know, start over the Rams. That's how
it started for them, and then now all of us
since they're bye week, they're seven in two and.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Here they are like, I think that's also a bit
of a twist.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's also, yeah, nobody's talking about the Rams today.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Nobody, no, no, and we should be because Sean McVay.
His words after the game were, just like we've we
may have scored thirty six points last time.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Here we are scoring twelve. It doesn't matter. We found
a way to win. Like what he said is right.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So it's like, I think that adds to it when
it's like, damn the Rams, who literally at the start
of the season weren't even a thought. I don't even
think I put them in the playoffs at the start
of the season.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
If I'm being honest, brock Perty is probably not going
to go to the playoffs. Fourteen of thirty one last night,
one hundred and forty two yards, three sacks, a quarterback
rating a forty five point four. It was sacked three times,
i should say, and picked off once. And that's the
other part that's not being talked about. Maybe it will
over the next three weeks, and maybe it will moncie
the entire offseason when the forty nine ers have their
(12:52):
decision and what they're gonna do with the contract of
brock Party. But this is the ammunition that the pretty
haters will all get in point to to see, like, Okay,
your team's diminished, how much can your quarterback rise and
rise to the occasion. Not penetrating the twenties past the
twenty seven y hardline and throwing an interception in the
end zone with five minutes left.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Not a way to get those people on.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Your side, not at all. And it sucks.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
It does suck for brock Party, the decision, the discourse
that will happen because it is. But the Niners have
how many players that they're paying fifteen million like that?
They have so many questions, not just brock Party. That's
why it's it's the end.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams, haw Brand and Ayuk's going to
come back from his knee injury. How long does Fred
Warner have to plays? Nick Bosa always going to be injured.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Now, Deebo Samuel going to catch the ball?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I don't know, on and on, on and on you
know that song, yes, on and on. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Hopefully that wasn't a copyright problem for us here. If
not just blamed Doug. You say it happened on the
Doug Dot Lib Show. I just don't say that. Monty
and I were in for him. She is Monty Bolano.
So I'm Dan Buyer hitter up at Monti Bolognos. You
can find me on Dan Byer on Fox.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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Speaker 2 (14:10):
This version of the San Francisco forty nine ers has
been laid to rest, but Monzi starts anew as a
new vegetarian today. That's what you've missed in the first
hour of the show. Go get the podcast if you
missed it. But we're with you for another sixty minutes
in for Doug Gottlieb on a Friday.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
You know what's so what sucks about me biting into
a sandwich full of meat is that it was like turkey.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It should have been like prime rib or something. Then
it would have been worth it turkey. But instead it's turkey.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You know see that family Feud clip where a guy
just guess turkey for the first three answers. It's like
Australian family feud. So one of the best turkey Turkey,
Jason Stewart, have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I have not seen that.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I do think it's appropriate that she lost her her
vegetarian ness on this show, on this show, because because
two weeks ago Doug Gottlieb asked her what meat she
likes best for Thanksgiving, and that was at least the
ninth time Doug Gottlieb has asked Manzi on the air
(15:16):
what meat she likes best, and then she responds each time,
I'm a vegetarian, I donate things with eyes. It's exact
same exchange. And Manzi, could you confirm that this is true?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
These are all true things?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
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Speaker 4 (15:39):
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Speaker 5 (15:41):
But yes, Doug, it's Doug finds out I'm a vegetarian
every day, Dan, what's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I PA, what's your favorite? It's like groundhog Day around
here with them. I don't drink, Doug, what's your favorite? IPA?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But what's your favorite? I don't drink. We've reset the
Manzi vegetarian counter. We can see it on X and
you can see it on Blue Sky. But X, you're right.
I felt it said enough just with the picture by itself,
(16:17):
by itself. If people want to take Mancy go right ahead.
Also on Blue Sky where I Can't take you where
I am at dan Byer it is also posted. It's
a nice place, adding new members every day. I'm not
giving up on X. Some people are just saying I'm
leaving X for this new format. Guess what, Let's do both.
(16:37):
Let's take Hey, when you go to the buffet, would
you like the chicken or the ribs? Let's do both?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Right? What's wrong with that? Monce take the turkey?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I will know.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Actually I took the turkey and it was delicious, So
thank you. You did not go to waste.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
It was very good.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Pest on there, did you peel off the part where
she bit in or did you?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
No, we don't care about cooties.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Just need the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I would have I would have taken a knight, told
you someone to cut that portion off and tore it off.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Cost of I tore it off.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I didn't either, even if she bit into it, I
probably would have.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Just you would not have cared.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Aaron Rodgers has been taking bites out of many for
for a while, and his target ESPN personalities and maybe
everything that comes with it. While speaking on ESPN and
the Pat mcavie show, the Jets quarterback bringing up a
topic of conversation that at least peaked our curiosity for
(17:33):
maybe ways Aaron Rodgers never intended.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Here's the Jets quarterback.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Talking about these these experts on TV who nobody remembers
what they did in their careers, so in order for
them to stay relevant, they have to make comments that
keeps them in the In the conversation that wasn't going
on a two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine
that was that was non existent. You know, the sports
center of my youth. You know, those guys were made
(18:00):
the highlights so much fun, and that's what they showed
on sports are now it's all talk shows and people
whose opinions are so important now and they believe they're
the celebrities now. They're the stars for just being able
to talk about sports or give a take about sports,
many of which are unfounded or asinine, as we all know.
But that's the you know, that's the environment that we're
(18:23):
in now.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The pot maybe calling the kettle black in this situation,
but he's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
He is not wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I don't think that the idea of celebrity is is
such a strange one because even at our level of
a broadcast, there there there is you're more, you're more noticeable.
But by no means would I consider what we do
(18:51):
making us a celebrity. And I do feel that there
are people who feel that when they go on shows,
and it's not just ESPN, it's other places as well,
whether you write for a paper or you know, you
write for an outlet and you go somewhere where there
is this almost like higher feeling of self worth. He's
not wrong about that. He's not wrong about that at all.
(19:13):
I do think that he's got things mixed up on
watching highlights and where highlights are and maybe where ESPN
now invests their money as opposed to when they did
in two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine,
which is actually more of a bigger conversation of how
we consume sports. But at least on the surface of
Rogers saying what he's saying, I do kind of get
sick of people thinking because they talk about sports that
(19:35):
they are some sort of celebrity.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, especially I think nowadays the word celebrity, like you
just said, I don't even know how I don't know
what to give you as a definition of celebrity, because
there's Instagram people that apparently are famous.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Af and I don't know who they are at all,
but I'm the weird one, and it's is that a
celebrity because to me, they're not so that whole. I
don't even know how to define that word anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
This is a god is a I'm so glad you
brought that up.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Twenty twenty three US Open is being held at La
Country Club and the USGA holds a golf media day
and in the group ahead of me that's at four players,
Jason Bateman and Will Arnetts Nice are playing with two
TikTok content creators.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah no, that's silly, right, It's so silly.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I had no idea who the other two guys were,
but I sure as heck knew who Jason Bateman was
and who Will our Net was. Yeah, And to think
about it, but it is viewed in that certain way
where if you have, you know, so many followers on TikTok,
that you are a certain sort of celebrity. I think
that you're popular. I just don't think that celebrity is
(20:48):
the term that comes.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
From that is not the term. We need to think
of something else.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I agree with you, and I also agree with what
you with what you said about Aaron Rodgers. It's like,
I get what he is saying, but it's you're you're
kind of adding so many layers to this conversation when
we can actually separate.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Them a little bit. Yeah, how do we consume sports now?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think his point so ESPN back in the day,
the gravy was Sports Center, and it isn't any longer.
Their gravy is what is in the morning. And there
is one Sports Center show that is gravy, and that's
Scott Van Pelt. They've built a whole show and brand
around him in that night show. But that isn't like
(21:31):
when it was Dan Patrick and Keith Olberman or Rich
Eisen back in the day, or when Mike Turico did
it you had, I mean those guys were those guys.
I would say that it was as close to being
celebrity and because of their creative ways that they would
(21:52):
do things. If they weren't good. If Dan Patrick wasn't good,
he wouldn't have been as popular. And now I feel
that there is in what Aaron Rodgers is saying, well,
if I appear on network TV, I'm just popular.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
But also when.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
We're watching those shows, it was the only place that
we could see all the games or see the games.
Now every game is on TV for you to watch,
and it's on twenty four to seven, and there are
specific shows NBA Live I still will watch. I'll watch
highlight shows that aren't Sports Center. I don't go to
Sports Center. You know what I do at the end
(22:27):
of an NBA night, I'll turn on NBATV and watch
their recap to see what's happening in college basketball. CBS
Sports Network has a really good inside college Basketball show
and they.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Have rotating crews and rotating people in.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If I want to know what's happening in that night
of college basketball, I get it in thirty minutes and
it's amazing. But to go watch Sports Center and watch highlights,
I really don't do it anymore.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
And the people that are giving us these highlights day
in and day out, I actually rather listen to it
from a stranger.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Is that weird?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Like I rather see a highlight video on Twitter from
somebody that I don't know who it is.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I'm going to be more inclined to listen. If not,
I'm going to watch highlights and silence.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, I think it's also too like you're searching it out,
like you're searching the content that you want out.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yes, if I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Watching Sports Center, I am. I am succumb to what
they feel is yes, right, And that's the part, like,
that's where I almost feel like I lose power. I
feel like fifteen years ago to the time that Aaron
Rodgers was talking about was I'm going to get the
biggest sports of the day. I'm going to get what
the biggest stories are. Now, I feel like you're going
to lead with a game because it was on your
(23:34):
network or it was on like I feel like that
even those biases come into play.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That's a great point, And that is such a great point.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
You're right, they're going to lead with with whatever was
on their network and it might not even be the
best story of the night. Back then, I used to
fall asleep to Sports Center. Couldn't tell you the last
time I looked for that. I used to fall asleep
to it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, I many people would.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
The morning Sports Center on the replay was actually valuable
because people would watch it from the night before. They
would do their ending in a way that wasn't a
I guess hard ending is if you would say where
you would move on to another program, I think they
would record one because it would only air up until
like seven o'clock Central or eight o'clock Central, and then
(24:18):
you would have a new program after that. But to
keep you there and to keep you on the loop,
they would have just done like you would just think
it was continuing and continuing on and on because it
was so popular, because you were still watching everything that
happened the night before. And again, this is fifteen years ago,
twenty years ago. I remember doing that. But now there's
no need. Now you're watching Get Up, you're watching the
debate shows. That's where a first take. That's where all
(24:40):
of their stuff, all of the money is in terms
of where they're investing, and they aren't investing in the
Sports Center anymore. The highlight shows, the highlight shows are
I still feel that there is value to them. I
don't think that there is value with how they are
done on ESPN. I find I find value in local
(25:02):
news and sports and watching, whether it be in Los Angeles,
whether it be in a small town somewhere that's covering preps.
I think that there's value in all of that, but
I don't see tons of value with ESPN, and honestly,
outside of Scott van Pelt, they don't put a lot
of resources into it. You don't know necessarily the faces
that are there at night.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
The only thing that I still will like if I'm
scrolling through and then I come across Sports Center and
they're doing like the top.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Ten plays, I will sit and watch that.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Because sometimes those plays include like a high school player
or like a you know, something that is not mainstream
that I already know about.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And I do like that. I do like when you
show me a play I may I may.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Have missed in sports You like top ten, I do
like time, and I don't like top ten because I
think it's it's too like here we are in Grundy Center, Iowa.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I like, hey, you know Chuck Jones from three quarters court? Like,
really that was the eighth best play?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm that there was something else happened, but it's it's
such the Sports Center effect of it. I remember plays
of the month where they took everything and so like
you had it had to be a really good play
because you had a whole month in June to get
all this action in Now, Like, are there really ten
plays worth seeing on a night where there's only like
two NBA games?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't think so. Well.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah, I guess I don't want this every night, but
maybe like a top ten weekly where you do show
me some plays that.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I may have, yah, have some standards.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Do you guys watch highlight shows? Jason Stewart, are you
still in there? Are you still into the are you
with Aaron Rodgers in this?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
I watch highlights, but it's a function of my job,
and that's why I'd love to know what the average
listener to this show is, or even like a younger demographic,
if they seek out highlights anymore. Because you could find
any highlight you want, as you said, Dan, on your
schedule and watch it when you want. There's no need
to tune into a cable news highlight show to get
(26:58):
the highlights on their schedule. So I'm interested in that.
But there is the function that it serves in my life.
We've already talked about. We went to Wings last night.
There was a loud bar. You know, you're not really
you're watching it in a sports bar, which is a
different experience than we should watch it for our jobs.
So this morning, I woke up and I went to
not ESPN, I went to the NFL network to watch
(27:20):
a friend of mine and get the highlights on Good
Morning Football. And that's how all consume it. And they
got all the highlights and the interviews and stuff. But
that's for my job. So I think if we are
so close to it, it's tough for us to comment.
I wonder if the average average person out there is
seeking out highlights.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I'd love to know.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
I also feel like highlights are different from sport to sport,
Like if I look up highlights for the NBA or
like a Clipper game, I feel like I get a
much better idea of how the game went than if
I look up highlights for a Chargers game. I don't
think it gives you the right picture, correct.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think that in a football game there are so
many ebbs and flows. Yeah, if it that you kind
of need to consume, yes, a majority of it. Of
what happened on this third down play? Why was this interception?
All you'll see is the interception showing on third and seventeen. Well,
how did they lose seven yards? Was it a holding
(28:17):
penalty that was bogus, was it?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
In this job, I don't think you can fake talking
about a football game if you didn't watch it, Like,
if you didn't watch it, I think it's difficult to try.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh, you'd be surprised it failed.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's obvious. It's you can't.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
No, it's obvious.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It's obvious.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
And I feel like in the NBA, because there's just
I don't know what it is, but I feel like
in the NBA you can read a couple stories, watch
a couple of highlights and get a feel of how
that game went.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
With NFL, I don't know, not at all. Here's the
other You can't fake it till you there's.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
There's a little something that what Aaron Rodgers said as
well that I do think is true, because I think
it's with inside the NBA who do their post game
highlight packages. They don't just do the two games that
they've done that night. They'll go around the league. But
we do want to hear what Charles in Shack and
Kenny have to say about those.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Players, never muting them.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And we are interested in opinion in that way. I
don't think that that's what we seek out now. From
a sports Center like show, and I have to say
it's Sports Center because it is the only one. Like
Fox Sports One tried to do their own version of
it years ago and it didn't work, and now there's
no show like that. There isn't another network that is
(29:29):
doing a nightly highlight show for like.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Across the nation.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yes, yes, I agree, because there's you know here local
they always do a recap of what happened with LA Sports.
But you're right, I think ESPN is the only one
that does cover just nationwide.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And there I do value the opinions of the people
sitting at the desks. Honestly, I don't take as much
grain of salt into the Tuesday night cast that you
may see on a tnt NBA broadcast and their resume,
like when you put Dwayne Wade on the table names,
but I know that he did some stuff last year.
It's very tough to top a resume like Dwayne Wade, right,
(30:05):
like to hear his opinion. But also Dwayne Wade doesn't
have the voice yet and maybe he will at some
point that Charles Barkley does, or that even Shaquille O'Neal does,
you know, for that matter. So it's not even like
it's not just an anti ESPN thing, Like you really
have to have the personalities. And I think that's what
and not because Dan Patrick is, you know, part of
our network here at Fox Sports Radio. But I think
(30:27):
we all recognize that's what made Dan Patrick and Rich
eyes In and Keith Olberman and Mike Tarico and Charlie
Steiner and all those guys so special because they were
so good and so creative at their jobs did their
own writing. I don't know if there I assume that
the sports and A anchors still do their own writing now,
but it just tells you on how talented and we
know all of those names, and all of those names
(30:48):
went on to bigger and better things, so there is
there is value to it. And I just now it's
not how I consume the celebrity air quotes as they used.
Nature of it doesn't reel me in as much as
maybe it did previously. But inside the NBA kind of
still well, yeah, it's no, it's a new world. We
just Aaron Rodgers is right, we don't watch how we
(31:09):
did fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Ago, not at all, not even a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
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Speaker 4 (31:49):
Zero Turkuo zero, which was prime reme.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I hate, I hate, I hate to admit something that'd
be an expensive Spanish sandwich.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Can know, but I mean, if I'm in a bite
of piece of meum, I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Know right away, Like you took a couple of bites
and we're like, wait a second, what is this? Oh
it's turkey, Like if it was primary okay.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And I would have been like, oh darn, and I
would have still chosed.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
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also got my start in my broadcasting career.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I think you had mentioned that a.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Lot of things I had to do in my early
jobs sometimes you'd have to read birthdays on the air.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
There usually weren't prank names, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
They're like birthdays of who like you would call in
and be like, it's my brother day is twenty four today,
Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You wouldn't get like salmonella salmonella is sixty two.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
You wouldn't get those.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But no Bart Simpson calls, is what you're telling me, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
There was something else that I had to do, though.
You'd have to read obits. That's how people would find
out who died, either in the newspaper or listening to
the radio.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Not not eula giz that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You would give it to the obits that are posted
and you would find out who passed away. Well, there's
been a death in the sports world.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
There has been Okay, let me get ready for this.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
There's been a death.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You get ready, It's time to read the oh bit
of the San Francisco forty nine ers. This window of
the San Francisco forty nine ers was laid to rest
on third Sday, December.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Twelfth of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
These Niners were born on February sixth of twenty seventeen,
as Kyle Shanahan was named head coach, hired by new
GM John Lynch. This duo led the forty nine ers
to four NFC championship games, three division titles, and two
Super Bowl appearances. In their pastimes, these forty nine ers
enjoyed walking out of their locker room with a big boombox,
(34:45):
you sure did, losing close games to Patrick Mahomes, wearing
different colored shorts than their teammates in practice, blaming Trey
Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo for everything, and ultimately leading games
in the third quarter. Survivors include quarterback Brock Party, wide
receiver Brandon Ayuk, and a fan base that can't stand
(35:08):
Deebo Samuel. These forty nine ers were preceded to death
by the Harbaugh Kaeperdeck Niners dynasty of the twenty teens
that also won zero Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Visitation will take place.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
In week sixteen in Miami, Week seventeen at home against
Detroit in week eighteen in Arizona. Burial will take place
at the end of the twenty twenty four regular season.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
May they rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
A We're black for a funeral today, Manci, and it's
the funeral of the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I wanted to laugh, it's over, it's done.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
When you said Deebo Jason Stewart and I got wings
last night.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Nice nice Niner fans could not stand Deebo Samuel when
he dropped the ball. My goodness, they lost their minds.
You remember on the play, Jason, they just completely lost
their bleep.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
The one that touched his hands and now.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
One yes, yeah, there was also was that uncomfortable thing.
I don't do it with this often when you go
to a sports bar and you're watching the games and
then there's a group of Rams fans and a group
of forty nine Ers fans and they're not like antagonizing
each other directly, they're just through their through their cheers
are being antagonized into the other group. I'm going to
(36:39):
cheer louder and more guttural the next time. So we
had that dynamic playing back and forth. Dan and I
were very neutral.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Did you wear your Chargers hat?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
No, I don't do that stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well you are in La you can, You're right now.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It was awesome too, because the way just came by.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Every thirty minutes we were there.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Where were you?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
We were just at a place. Okay, that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
We knew that the Brewers weren't Devin Williams wasn't long
for Milwaukee. Hey, move those closers out do what you
can now, Yeah, get them out. Coming up, We're coming
up now here on the Doug Gottlieb show, Life from
the Tirect. That's tyreq dot com Studios. Former GM at
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, spending over twenty years in NFL
front offices. Mark Dominic joins us on this Friday, as
he does every week.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Hell O, Mark, how are you.
Speaker 11 (37:23):
I'm good. I'm good. Happy to talk to you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Let's dive right into the topics at hands, specifically the
San Francisco forty nine ers. Mont and I started the
show talking about Devondre Campbell leaving San Francisco. I was
curious on how San Francisco is dealing with it and
how the Ravens dealt with Deontay Johnson when he didn't
want to go into the game a couple of weeks ago.
Niners are are outright just you know, likely going to
(37:48):
be releasing Campbell, while the Ravens said, We're going to
suspend you for one game and deal with it from there.
We don't know how they're going to deal with it
just yet. As he's going to be the week fifteen,
I believe is the way they got the Giants coming
up the weekend point is the Ravenston cut, Deontay Johnson
the forty nine ers, will can you give us a
reason on why maybe one team would do one way
and one team would do the other in handling these
(38:09):
similar situations.
Speaker 11 (38:11):
I would think that it's probably something the way that
everything was communicated, handled internally and externally. And I you know,
when you just listen, I mean it's hard for me
to imagine going through that as a general manager, you know,
on you know, up in the box watching it. John
Lynch as the former players by not feeling very good
about that either. But I think it's it's a different dynamics.
(38:31):
And in this situation, Campbell, I think, isn't going to
just get himself cut from the San Francisco forty nine ers.
He just ended his NFL career. And you know that's
the decision he decided to make in the moment. I'm
sure he spoke to his agent or maybe spoke to
people about it, like I'm just not going to do this.
But to watch the reaction of the teammates in a
team that obviously Simprancisco is going nowhere this postseason, you know,
(38:54):
it's it's shocking. It's not shocking that George Kittle and
company all came out, but you can't put them back
in that locker room. You all know that there's no
way you're going to put that person back in your
locker room. And that's simple as that. And I agree
with what the forty nine ers I think will be doing.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
The topic of conversation right now is Devondre Campbell with
the forty nine ers. But we're wondering what the forty
nine ers do moving forward with brock Party. Granted all
these other players are getting paid, how do they handle
brock Party now this offseason?
Speaker 11 (39:26):
Yeah, you know what, I think it's a player that
you still consider signing long term. You know, the rain
was certainly a much more of a factor than I
guess I thought it was watching the game last night,
and and it affected, you know, brock Party, and some
people kind of you give you a hard time about
you know, the size of your hand and some of
the things that people beat up on brock Pertty. Now again,
I like brock pretty, but here's what I would say.
(39:48):
There's no way brock Pertty's representatives came to me and said, look,
we just want Trevor Lawrence Steele. We've been more productive
than he has. I'd say, yes you have, and yes
you should have, but Trevor Lawn should have got fifty
five million, and you're not going to get fifty five mills.
If you want to play this out another year, we
can see if you can take us too, you know,
put the stats back together again like you had two
years ago. It's a possibility, but right now I got
(40:09):
to see more and I believe in brock Pretty, but
I'm not going to pay at the top of the market.
You know, Dak Prescott's at sixty. You know, multiple guys
are at fifty five. I'm looking at brock Pretty going, hey,
if you want to be in the forty five range,
I'm okay there, forty five to fifty with some Inzennas,
I'm okay there. But I'm not giving you the upper
fifty or the mid fifties or upper by any stretch,
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because again, I've got control over the player next year.
Now I got franchise Tag, franchise Tag. There's just no
reason to do a deal that's out of the markets stratosphere.
And I think that's what Trevor Lawrence did, and I
think it's going to cost a lot of people jobs
in Jacksonville as well.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Mark Dominic joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Blaios. I'm Dan Byer
in for Doug. When you look at what's happening in Minnesota, now,
you've got a decision with Sam Darnold, how do the
Vikings handle that possible free agency coming up? I know
they have bigger fish to fry this season, but since
we're talking about the future of Brock Purtty, let's talk
about the future of Sam Donald, how does Minnesota deal
(41:02):
with that?
Speaker 11 (41:03):
Yeah. Look, I think that it's one of those ones
where as much as I believe they like JJ, Sam
has played. You know, obviously this last week was spectacular.
I think you're just going to have to let him walk.
I don't think you I don't think you can come
to it. I think what you do is you leave
the door open and say, Sam, it's a market, it's
not what you think it is. You were happy to
do a two year kind of a deal, maybe not
(41:26):
quite the Baker Mayfield, but something in that realm where yeah,
we still have JJ, we still believe he's the future.
But we could do something two year and take care
of you and know that we still have the bridge
for JJ. I think that's the only thing. But I
think you've got to say to Sam, you got to
go see where the market takes you, because if you
can get in the forty five fifty to fifty five
range conversations, I don't think it's in Minnesota, and I
don't think that they're built that way. And I think
(41:47):
that they, you know, really like JJ and rightfully so,
so I think Sam hits the market and I think
the only way he goes back to Minnesota is it's
a smaller, short, two year deal, still a lot of
good money, but it's probably two year, four, two year,
eighty to your ninety kind of a deal.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
The Falcans have lost for in a row. Kirk Cousins
has looked rough at times.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Do you think we're going to see Michael Pennicks sho
in your start before the season's over.
Speaker 11 (42:11):
I think if they get to the point, you know,
where they're completely out of the playoff hunt with just
being the game behind right now, but in the division,
they're five and one within the division, so they can
get tied back to Tampa. There's a chance that they
could still pull this thing off. I don't think they'll
do it until they're at that spot, but I think
if Kirk Cousins has one or two more tough games,
(42:31):
then I think you put Michael pennixkin because the reason
why is because where the salary cap has been and
where the salar caf is going. We've seen it before, right,
I mean, Carson Wentz gets you know, let go, let go,
let go, Jared Goff gets traded. I mean we've seen
big deals moved off of books where you know, the
other team just kind of eats it and says, I'm okay,
We're going to keep moving. And that's where they are
salary cap wise, and I think Atlanta can handle it.
(42:53):
So I would say that if two weeks ago and
Atlanta's knocked out, I would let Michael Penix come in
play those games and pretty much, you know, move forward
with Michael going forward and see what I could do
with Kirk Cousins in the offseason, even though it's gonna
cost me an enormous amount of salary cap.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Mark Dominic joining us here on Fox Sports right yet,
now I know the Falcons front office. Though we'll say, see,
all the criticism we got was not warranted because this
is how it worked out. I would still say, well, then,
why why would you sign Kirk Cousins in the first
place if he's not even gonna make it the full season?
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Like was? Did they still.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Mess up their draft or the signing in what they
did last offseason even if it's played out like.
Speaker 11 (43:30):
This, I feel like they messed up the signing of
the offseason. I think they obviously must have liked Michael Pennix,
you know, previously, and where they messed up was it's
hard for me to imagine based up where they were
draft and based on a guy that had some injury
history that they weren't going to be able to get
him in the draft, and they could have taken that
one hundred and sixty million dollars, put it more on
(43:51):
the defensive side, maybe kept another offensive player or something
like that. But I think that they messed that up.
They messed the signing up. I think they got nervous,
weren't sure, well what if? What if? Instead put yourself
in position to make sure, make sure and so you know,
they can look at themselves whether it's Terry Fontaine or
the GM or who else was all involved in that decision.
But to do both, I still think it's an air.
(44:12):
Hopefully Michael Pennix can be the quarterback of the future,
but I just think when you did both of them,
it's not logical to me. And you could sit there
and say on the other side, well, look we're going
to be okay, it's good. Like I said, you're just
gonna have to eat one hundred million dollars are close
to salary cap space to prove that you made the
wrong decision in March and the right decision in April, the.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
Dolphins and wide receiver Odell Beckham Junior agreed to mutually
part ways.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Today he was released. Are you shocked about that?
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Do you think there is still a team out there
that might be interested in Odell Beckham?
Speaker 11 (44:44):
Yeah? I'm not shocked. I don't think I really don't
think anybody really could be or should be shocked with
this kind of move. Maybe just sort of a simple
fact is you know, the name is wonderful, it's like
one you signed him, and so you win the press
conference because it was like everybody's like, oh, Odell, and
yet he's got what nine catches on the season, you know,
only two in the last three weeks. It's been such
(45:06):
a lackluster performance, and it's I wouldn't sit there. It's
all Odell. I think it's just it's good that you
know the other guys. I think like Tyreek Hill and
obviously Waddle, those guys are eating up all the care
or all the receptions, and then the running backs are
so I think they just didn't see a role fore.
And he's not been as explosive by any stretch. Even
in the games he cop ball, he didn't feel explosive.
(45:26):
So again, these are the tricky ones. You win the
press conference, your fans are all going falling over there
and says, oh my gosh, it's no different. We'll see
what happens with coach Belichick in North Carolina. North Carolina
won the press conference, but we're going to see what
happens over the next two or three years to see
if they were successful in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Mark Dominic with US on Fox Sports Radio seas Monte Bolano. So,
I'm Dan Byer, how surprised were you that Belichick took
that North Carolina job.
Speaker 11 (45:49):
Well, I was very surprised, right, I mean I think
a week ago I thought there's no way of taking it.
And then over the weekend I'm watching you know, Tom
Brady and Rob Ronkowski laugh about the thought that he
would actually be a college coach right on TV.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (46:00):
Yeah, and they feel the same way. I'm like that,
That's how I feel. And I think the scary thing
is for them is, look, I hope he had success.
Coach Belichick's you know, obviously tremendously successful coach. But the
problem is going to be is players coming out of
New England said it was miserable, but they won and
they were happy because they were champions and Super Bowl
(46:21):
rings and all this stuff. So they just put up
with Most people wanted to get the heck out of
there because it was never fun. That is going to
be used against Belichick non stop. And recruiting. So you
can walk into those youth living rooms and those places,
sit there and say, I'm going to make sure your
young man's prepared for the NFL and prepared for life. Well,
I think Curby s Mark's doing that stuff too, right,
But I don't make it miserable. And so you know,
(46:42):
you know, all these different coaches will be like, yeah,
but we're not miserable to go talk to any Patriot
player and see how it was. And I think that's
going to make it a lot harder for recruiting. I
love North Carolina. I lived in North Carolina as my
team growing up. Beautiful, beautiful campus. But I think it's
I wish, yeah, because I think it's gonna be so
much harder because of the portal and nil and just
(47:05):
the ability to compete against the Georgia's and et cetera
in across the country, Texas, wherever it is. I think
it's gonna be a rough run.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, that's the funky thing about it.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I think we've lived so much of our lives thinking
like that there was this hierarchy where the NFL was
the top, and it is. I mean, it's the top
level of football. But when you're talking about challenging coaching jobs,
coaching in college now just seems a heck of a
lot more difficult than the NFL. And I've heard people
say I'd rather coach in the NFL because it's just football.
It's all I have to worry about. Granted, it takes
(47:36):
up a lot of my time, but it's the only
thing that I have to worry about. College just seems
much more difficult now to navigate to the points you made, Mark.
Speaker 11 (47:43):
Well, I think it is. And you can just look
at Jeff Hapley leaving Boston College, going to Green Bay,
becoming the defensive coordinator, and now he's going to be
on the circuit for interviews for head coaching jobs in
the National Football League. Yeah, so you can see that
a lot of that's going to be again the drain
and the no of insight, which is fine. I'm glad,
you know, college players, college athletes are earning money, but
(48:05):
I just think that it makes that job so much
more difficult than it's ever been before.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
He's Mark Dobinic, former GM of the Buccaneers, joins us
every week here on Fox Sports A Radio.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Mark, have a great weekend. Enjoy Week fifteen.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Thanks you guys have work with him too. Enjoy the game.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Too bad, So sad, end of an era, See you later,
Bye bye, Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a Friday, Monty.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
That's right. How exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What a week we've got in the NFL, and what
a way to start it out last night with a
punt passing kick contest in Santa Clara Rams and Niners.
Get us started at week fifteen. We hope for a
little more action than we got last night and what
proofs will prove to be one of the better weeks
that we get in the National Football League season.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I wouldn't even say we got a little action last
night in that game. We are broadcasting live from the
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Last night's game is not the way football should be.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
No, and you probably shouldn't be walking off the field
in the third quarter. Well yeah, that seems to be
the overriding effect. And don't you worry. Don't you worry,
you Rams fans or you Seahawks fanststan or you Cardinals
fans or Packers fans or Lions fans or Chiefs fans.
(01:28):
We're gonna get to the demise of the San Francisco
forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We will.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But what seems to be overshadowing what transpired last night
and what has transpired over these first fifteen weeks of
this NFL season. The overshadowing is Devondre Campbell quitting on
his football team. This is something that honestly, Manzi, I
have been on social media for the last what twelve
hours eighteen hours since this happened. Around that point, I
(01:56):
have not seen one person say I agree with Devondre Campbell.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
This is not a polarizing topic.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It is one though that needs to be I don't know,
I guess dug into a little bit. Let's first of all,
hear from some of the parties at hand, including forty
nine Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan happened.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
With Defondra Campbell. He didn't play it and he went
into the locker room at some point. Yeah, he didn't
said he didn't want to play to day played today. Yeah,
the coaching staff.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
He didn't when I asked him, why didn't want to
go in during the game or before that was in
the third quarter.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
How does that ever happened to you where a player
said they didn't want to play in the game.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, he got demoted for this game.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
He was not going to play. No, he was going
to go in when Drake came out.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Okay, So that's kind of the portion of this. This
whole deal is. Last night was the return of Drake
green Law for the San Francisco forty nine Ers, who
hadn't played in a game since Super Bowl fifty eight.
Nobody is taking the side of Devondre Campbell on social media.
I will not do that for effect Mazi, But does
(02:57):
Devondre Campbell at least have an argument to say, I've
given my body for this team throughout this season, and
now all of a sudden, you welcome your veteran linebacker
back and you want to throw me into a game
sparingly or in the third quarter? Is there any leg
to stand on? As I look at our leg lamp
here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, does Devonder Campbell
(03:19):
have any leg to stand on? Because of the return
of Drake green Law.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You have every right to be annoyed frustrated, But no,
you do not have a leg to stand on to
handle it the way that you did.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You have every right to be upset. Yeah, of course
I get it. Who doesn't want to play?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
But we was it Fred Warner or Trent Williams that
were like having green Law out there is like the
greatest thing. Like everybody was expecting him to get back
and got so excited for him to get back. And
as much as it sucks for you, I cannot give
you any leg to stand on because this is a
privilege that an athlete has, not normal people like you
(03:54):
and me, Like he is able to do that because
he's made so much money. But in reality, like if
you and I walked down a job like that, it's
like bye, good luck. He can do that because he's
made money throughout his career and he feels like he's
above it, and it's like congratulations to you, but no,
you have no leg to stand on, especially I think
with the way the season has been for the forty
(04:16):
nine ers, which you and I have talked about, not
just on.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
The field but off the field, It's like, how do
you not want to be there for your brothers?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That is what I think is one of the biggest
misconceptions we have in sports is that everybody is a
brother and everybody is a teammate, and that everybody is
friends and it is it is. It is not true.
You have fifty three players, well, fifty three guys in
a locker room. I know there's more with practice squad,
(04:44):
but fifty three guys. I don't have fifty three friends
in my life, like I don't like we have fifty
three people here at Fox Sports Radio. There are some
that I know better than others. There are some that
I see better than you know more than others, Others
that work different timeslots different So not that I have
ill will against them or that I would quit against them,
I just don't know them. I don't know them as
(05:05):
well as others. And so the Devondre Campbell's sort of
aspect of it, maybe there is that portion of it
maybe your linebacker group, Maybe you owe it to those guys.
Maybe you shouldn't be mad because Drake Greenlaw has been
a part of that group for you. But I do
think that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
For you, Yeah, true, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I do think that the thought process that you owe
it to all fifty three guys is what you do
when you sign up for a team. I just don't
think that's the reality for every athlete that plays that game.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I don't think that they are all best friends. And
I use the word brother because you did agree to
join this team. And I think that's part of being
a sports being in a team sport like that. This
isn't tennis, this isn't golf, right, So I've definitely played
with people I didn't like, But you know what, on
the court, we are best of friends.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
The minute that game is over. You're right, I don't
want to have a cocktail with you.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
That's it. It's a responsibility, it's a job, it's a responsibility.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
There's also the fact that Kyle Shanahan said today that
Devondra Campbell is not expected to play another down for
the forty nine ers, which is not shocking, but let's
compare that to what happened in Baltimore when Deontay Johnson,
who was acquired in a trade from the Panthers earlier
the season so there was something given to Carolina as
part of a deal, is brought in and he refuses
(06:27):
to go in to their game against Philadelphia. I don't
know if Deontay Johnson's going to play this week against
the Giants. I don't know if John Harbaughs made that
final decision, but it is interesting that the forty nine ers,
who now have really nothing to play for, can make
that easy decision and be like, we're just going to
move on with him. Well, the Ravens were in the
thick of it in the playoffs and may need another
weapon for Lamar Jackson. Are saying we're going to suspend
(06:50):
you for one game and then we'll move on from there.
There's two different things at stake in two different ways
that NFL teams are handling this.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
One percent, and then you just said it even though
the Niners have really nothing to play for anymore at
this point.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
That adds to it.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It's like, what do we It doesn't matter, you can't
you embarrassed us in a year where we have had
so many terrible things happened to us in a year
where you couldn't have planned all the injuries on and
off the field situations. You embarrassed us even more. And
I think that's more of what it is, because I
do you think the Ravens felt embarrassed. I don't the
(07:25):
way San Francisco. San Francisco felt embarrassed by that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And your point about Drake Greenlaw being there longer, yeah,
Red Warner being there longer. They're more invested into the
brand than Devondre Campbell, who's been on multiple teams in
his career, just comes in. I'm not trying to support
Devandre Campbell and I'm not even coming in here and
just trying to play Devil's advocate. I agree for the
if you wanted to, if you wanted to do this
(07:51):
today and say, you know, a final three games, I'm
not in it. It's I don't want to risk injury
for my rest of my career. You guys really aren't
invested in me. I'm done. Then you dock his game
checks and move on, But not to go in the
game in the third quarter of a game, which, by
the way, I believe they were winning at the time
(08:12):
is a different level, Like Deontay Johnson didn't want to
go into a game that the Ravens were losing, right,
and so like this is opportunity. Whether I believe the
forty nine Ers were ahead.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
At that time, and obviously I think the Ravens may
have known that Deontay Johnson was a little bit frustrated
with lack of usage at that point, which is which
is probably why they suspended him and didn't just cut.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
The relationship completely.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Campbell was in the game at some point, refused to
go back in when Greenlaw got hurt.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Like, there's just so many layers to it, but you're right.
Had he woken up today and.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Just said, you guys, I don't want to play anymore,
we wouldn't even be discussing this. We would still be
saying that the forty nine ers are dead and rip,
but we would not be talking about him deciding to
no longer play. It was the way he did it
left them more embarrassed then they were already feeling when
they scored six.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Points yeah six, yeah, six the issue and you're right,
nine or six, who cares, it's the same thing. The
forty nine ers didn't get the ball past the Rams
twenty seven yard line last night. That is my whole
issue with this is that we are talking about Devondre
Campbell and maybe it's representative of what the forty nine
(09:25):
ers were and what they are now. Maybe that's the
way to encapsulate it. But they were not a good
football team last night. They have not been a good
football team all year, and I think that covers this up.
But it's difficult to get away from from the pride
and just the quitting aspect. I thought George Kittle's comments
(09:46):
were very telling. This is what the tight end had
to say about Devondre Campbell leaving, and I think this
is where you're going to get the emotion and why
the story is kind of overshadowing what happened on the field.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
That is one p per who just decided not to,
you know, play for his teammates. And I don't think
that that doesn't like does make our office so to
be like, wow, man, you we're falling apart. It's more
of a we're like the defense, Hey, we're falling apart.
It's more of a one person making a like Mooney said.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It a selfish decision.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
And I'm with Mooney on that and I have never
been around anybody that's ever done that, and I hope
I'm never around anybody that does that.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Again, there's a there's a little building up.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He didn't get full of rage, but you could see
like at first he was at a loss for words,
and then he had a lot to say about it.
Doug gets like that too, and Doug gets hot on topics.
He may start slow and then all of a sudden
it rises to a crescendo. And I almost felt like
George Kittle, if he kept talking, would still have been
at that point. But Kittle's one of the old guys.
Kittle's one of the ones that represent that brand and
represent that team. And to have somebody come in and
(10:51):
tarnish it the way that it is and what's already
been an awful season, it's got to be.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Tough to take.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, And I think that selfish is the right word.
In a team sport. That is one of the most
selfish things, selfish things you could do.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
They couldn't stop Karen Williams either last night.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
No, he had a carries.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, twenty nine carries. You know, it was four
yards per carry. A little shy of that. But it's
also the physicality of what the Rams played with. They
couldn't stop pooking Nakua seven catches ninety seven yards Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So like, if you're the forty nine Ers and you're
the Rams watching last night's game, the Rams, I felt
kind of were doing what the Niners would have liked
to have done, and there had to be like in
the second half of the game, whether it be Karen
Williams or whether it be Blake Koram, it's the Rams
who were making the plays and that were being more
physical and it wasn't the forty nine ers and they
(11:45):
have it be one of your biggest rivals in your division.
To be able to do that, that had to be
tough to take.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And also a team that coming into the season, we're like,
oh we might trade Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're gonna, you know, start over the Rams. That's how
it started for them, and then now all of us
since they're bye week, they're seven in two and.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Here they are like, I think that's also a bit
of a twist.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's also, yeah, nobody's talking about the Rams today.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Nobody, no, no, and we should be because Sean McVay.
His words after the game were, just like we've we
may have scored thirty six points last time.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Here we are scoring twelve. It doesn't matter. We found
a way to win. Like what he said is right.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
So it's like, I think that adds to it when
it's like, damn the Rams, who literally at the start
of the season weren't even a thought. I don't even
think I put them in the playoffs at the start
of the season.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
If I'm being honest, brock Perty is probably not going
to go to the playoffs. Fourteen of thirty one last night,
one hundred and forty two yards, three sacks, a quarterback
rating a forty five point four. It was sacked three times,
i should say, and picked off once. And that's the
other part that's not being talked about. Maybe it will
over the next three weeks, and maybe it will moncie
the entire offseason when the forty nine ers have their
(12:52):
decision and what they're gonna do with the contract of
brock Party. But this is the ammunition that the pretty
haters will all get in point to to see, like, Okay,
your team's diminished, how much can your quarterback rise and
rise to the occasion. Not penetrating the twenties past the
twenty seven y hardline and throwing an interception in the
end zone with five minutes left.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Not a way to get those people on.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Your side, not at all. And it sucks.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
It does suck for brock Party, the decision, the discourse
that will happen because it is. But the Niners have
how many players that they're paying fifteen million like that?
They have so many questions, not just brock Party. That's
why it's it's the end.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams, haw Brand and Ayuk's going to
come back from his knee injury. How long does Fred
Warner have to plays? Nick Bosa always going to be injured.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Now, Deebo Samuel going to catch the ball?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I don't know, on and on, on and on you
know that song, yes, on and on. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Hopefully that wasn't a copyright problem for us here. If
not just blamed Doug. You say it happened on the
Doug Dot Lib Show. I just don't say that. Monty
and I were in for him. She is Monty Bolano.
So I'm Dan Buyer hitter up at Monti Bolognos. You
can find me on Dan Byer on Fox.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
This version of the San Francisco forty nine ers has
been laid to rest, but Monzi starts anew as a
new vegetarian today. That's what you've missed in the first
hour of the show. Go get the podcast if you
missed it. But we're with you for another sixty minutes
in for Doug Gottlieb on a Friday.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
You know what's so what sucks about me biting into
a sandwich full of meat is that it was like turkey.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
It should have been like prime rib or something. Then
it would have been worth it turkey. But instead it's turkey.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You know see that family Feud clip where a guy
just guess turkey for the first three answers. It's like
Australian family feud. So one of the best turkey Turkey,
Jason Stewart, have you ever seen that?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I have not seen that.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I do think it's appropriate that she lost her her
vegetarian ness on this show, on this show, because because
two weeks ago Doug Gottlieb asked her what meat she
likes best for Thanksgiving, and that was at least the
ninth time Doug Gottlieb has asked Manzi on the air
(15:16):
what meat she likes best, and then she responds each time,
I'm a vegetarian, I donate things with eyes. It's exact
same exchange. And Manzi, could you confirm that this is true?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
These are all true things?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
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Speaker 5 (15:41):
But yes, Doug, it's Doug finds out I'm a vegetarian
every day, Dan, what's your favorite?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I PA, what's your favorite? It's like groundhog Day around
here with them. I don't drink, Doug, what's your favorite? IPA?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But what's your favorite? I don't drink. We've reset the
Manzi vegetarian counter. We can see it on X and
you can see it on Blue Sky. But X, you're right.
I felt it said enough just with the picture by itself,
(16:17):
by itself. If people want to take Mancy go right ahead.
Also on Blue Sky where I Can't take you where
I am at dan Byer it is also posted. It's
a nice place, adding new members every day. I'm not
giving up on X. Some people are just saying I'm
leaving X for this new format. Guess what, Let's do both.
(16:37):
Let's take Hey, when you go to the buffet, would
you like the chicken or the ribs? Let's do both?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Right? What's wrong with that? Monce take the turkey?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I will know.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Actually I took the turkey and it was delicious, So
thank you. You did not go to waste.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
It was very good.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Pest on there, did you peel off the part where
she bit in or did you?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
No, we don't care about cooties.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Just need the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I would have I would have taken a knight, told
you someone to cut that portion off and tore it off.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Cost of I tore it off.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I didn't either, even if she bit into it, I
probably would have.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Just you would not have cared.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Aaron Rodgers has been taking bites out of many for
for a while, and his target ESPN personalities and maybe
everything that comes with it. While speaking on ESPN and
the Pat mcavie show, the Jets quarterback bringing up a
topic of conversation that at least peaked our curiosity for
(17:33):
maybe ways Aaron Rodgers never intended.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Here's the Jets quarterback.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Talking about these these experts on TV who nobody remembers
what they did in their careers, so in order for
them to stay relevant, they have to make comments that
keeps them in the In the conversation that wasn't going
on a two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine
that was that was non existent. You know, the sports
center of my youth. You know, those guys were made
(18:00):
the highlights so much fun, and that's what they showed
on sports are now it's all talk shows and people
whose opinions are so important now and they believe they're
the celebrities now. They're the stars for just being able
to talk about sports or give a take about sports,
many of which are unfounded or asinine, as we all know.
But that's the you know, that's the environment that we're
(18:23):
in now.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The pot maybe calling the kettle black in this situation,
but he's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
He is not wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I don't think that the idea of celebrity is is
such a strange one because even at our level of
a broadcast, there there there is you're more, you're more noticeable.
But by no means would I consider what we do
(18:51):
making us a celebrity. And I do feel that there
are people who feel that when they go on shows,
and it's not just ESPN, it's other places as well,
whether you write for a paper or you know, you
write for an outlet and you go somewhere where there
is this almost like higher feeling of self worth. He's
not wrong about that. He's not wrong about that at all.
(19:13):
I do think that he's got things mixed up on
watching highlights and where highlights are and maybe where ESPN
now invests their money as opposed to when they did
in two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine,
which is actually more of a bigger conversation of how
we consume sports. But at least on the surface of
Rogers saying what he's saying, I do kind of get
sick of people thinking because they talk about sports that
(19:35):
they are some sort of celebrity.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, especially I think nowadays the word celebrity, like you
just said, I don't even know how I don't know
what to give you as a definition of celebrity, because
there's Instagram people that apparently are famous.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Af and I don't know who they are at all,
but I'm the weird one, and it's is that a
celebrity because to me, they're not so that whole. I
don't even know how to define that word anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
This is a god is a I'm so glad you
brought that up.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Twenty twenty three US Open is being held at La
Country Club and the USGA holds a golf media day
and in the group ahead of me that's at four players,
Jason Bateman and Will Arnetts Nice are playing with two
TikTok content creators.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah no, that's silly, right, It's so silly.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I had no idea who the other two guys were,
but I sure as heck knew who Jason Bateman was
and who Will our Net was. Yeah, And to think
about it, but it is viewed in that certain way
where if you have, you know, so many followers on TikTok,
that you are a certain sort of celebrity. I think
that you're popular. I just don't think that celebrity is
(20:48):
the term that comes.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
From that is not the term. We need to think
of something else.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
I agree with you, and I also agree with what
you with what you said about Aaron Rodgers. It's like,
I get what he is saying, but it's you're you're
kind of adding so many layers to this conversation when
we can actually separate.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Them a little bit. Yeah, how do we consume sports now?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think his point so ESPN back in the day,
the gravy was Sports Center, and it isn't any longer.
Their gravy is what is in the morning. And there
is one Sports Center show that is gravy, and that's
Scott Van Pelt. They've built a whole show and brand
around him in that night show. But that isn't like
(21:31):
when it was Dan Patrick and Keith Olberman or Rich
Eisen back in the day, or when Mike Turico did
it you had, I mean those guys were those guys.
I would say that it was as close to being
celebrity and because of their creative ways that they would
(21:52):
do things. If they weren't good. If Dan Patrick wasn't good,
he wouldn't have been as popular. And now I feel
that there is in what Aaron Rodgers is saying, well,
if I appear on network TV, I'm just popular.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
But also when.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
We're watching those shows, it was the only place that
we could see all the games or see the games.
Now every game is on TV for you to watch,
and it's on twenty four to seven, and there are
specific shows NBA Live I still will watch. I'll watch
highlight shows that aren't Sports Center. I don't go to
Sports Center. You know what I do at the end
(22:27):
of an NBA night, I'll turn on NBATV and watch
their recap to see what's happening in college basketball. CBS
Sports Network has a really good inside college Basketball show
and they.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Have rotating crews and rotating people in.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If I want to know what's happening in that night
of college basketball, I get it in thirty minutes and
it's amazing. But to go watch Sports Center and watch highlights,
I really don't do it anymore.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
And the people that are giving us these highlights day
in and day out, I actually rather listen to it
from a stranger.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Is that weird?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Like I rather see a highlight video on Twitter from
somebody that I don't know who it is.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I'm going to be more inclined to listen. If not,
I'm going to watch highlights and silence.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, I think it's also too like you're searching it out,
like you're searching the content that you want out.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yes, if I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Watching Sports Center, I am. I am succumb to what
they feel is yes, right, And that's the part, like,
that's where I almost feel like I lose power. I
feel like fifteen years ago to the time that Aaron
Rodgers was talking about was I'm going to get the
biggest sports of the day. I'm going to get what
the biggest stories are. Now, I feel like you're going
to lead with a game because it was on your
(23:34):
network or it was on like I feel like that
even those biases come into play.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
That's a great point, And that is such a great point.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
You're right, they're going to lead with with whatever was
on their network and it might not even be the
best story of the night. Back then, I used to
fall asleep to Sports Center. Couldn't tell you the last
time I looked for that. I used to fall asleep
to it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, I many people would.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
The morning Sports Center on the replay was actually valuable
because people would watch it from the night before. They
would do their ending in a way that wasn't a
I guess hard ending is if you would say where
you would move on to another program, I think they
would record one because it would only air up until
like seven o'clock Central or eight o'clock Central, and then
(24:18):
you would have a new program after that. But to
keep you there and to keep you on the loop,
they would have just done like you would just think
it was continuing and continuing on and on because it
was so popular, because you were still watching everything that
happened the night before. And again, this is fifteen years ago,
twenty years ago. I remember doing that. But now there's
no need. Now you're watching Get Up, you're watching the
debate shows. That's where a first take. That's where all
(24:40):
of their stuff, all of the money is in terms
of where they're investing, and they aren't investing in the
Sports Center anymore. The highlight shows, the highlight shows are
I still feel that there is value to them. I
don't think that there is value with how they are
done on ESPN. I find I find value in local
(25:02):
news and sports and watching, whether it be in Los Angeles,
whether it be in a small town somewhere that's covering preps.
I think that there's value in all of that, but
I don't see tons of value with ESPN, and honestly,
outside of Scott van Pelt, they don't put a lot
of resources into it. You don't know necessarily the faces
that are there at night.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
The only thing that I still will like if I'm
scrolling through and then I come across Sports Center and
they're doing like the top.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Ten plays, I will sit and watch that.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Because sometimes those plays include like a high school player
or like a you know, something that is not mainstream
that I already know about.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And I do like that. I do like when you
show me a play I may I may.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Have missed in sports You like top ten, I do
like time, and I don't like top ten because I
think it's it's too like here we are in Grundy Center, Iowa.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I like, hey, you know Chuck Jones from three quarters court? Like,
really that was the eighth best play?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm that there was something else happened, but it's it's
such the Sports Center effect of it. I remember plays
of the month where they took everything and so like
you had it had to be a really good play
because you had a whole month in June to get
all this action in Now, Like, are there really ten
plays worth seeing on a night where there's only like
two NBA games?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't think so. Well.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah, I guess I don't want this every night, but
maybe like a top ten weekly where you do show
me some plays that.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I may have, yah, have some standards.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Do you guys watch highlight shows? Jason Stewart, are you
still in there? Are you still into the are you
with Aaron Rodgers in this?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
I watch highlights, but it's a function of my job,
and that's why I'd love to know what the average
listener to this show is, or even like a younger demographic,
if they seek out highlights anymore. Because you could find
any highlight you want, as you said, Dan, on your
schedule and watch it when you want. There's no need
to tune into a cable news highlight show to get
(26:58):
the highlights on their schedule. So I'm interested in that.
But there is the function that it serves in my life.
We've already talked about. We went to Wings last night.
There was a loud bar. You know, you're not really
you're watching it in a sports bar, which is a
different experience than we should watch it for our jobs.
So this morning, I woke up and I went to
not ESPN, I went to the NFL network to watch
(27:20):
a friend of mine and get the highlights on Good
Morning Football. And that's how all consume it. And they
got all the highlights and the interviews and stuff. But
that's for my job. So I think if we are
so close to it, it's tough for us to comment.
I wonder if the average average person out there is
seeking out highlights.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I'd love to know.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
I also feel like highlights are different from sport to sport,
Like if I look up highlights for the NBA or
like a Clipper game, I feel like I get a
much better idea of how the game went than if
I look up highlights for a Chargers game. I don't
think it gives you the right picture, correct.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think that in a football game there are so
many ebbs and flows. Yeah, if it that you kind
of need to consume, yes, a majority of it. Of
what happened on this third down play? Why was this interception?
All you'll see is the interception showing on third and seventeen. Well,
how did they lose seven yards? Was it a holding
(28:17):
penalty that was bogus, was it?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
In this job, I don't think you can fake talking
about a football game if you didn't watch it, Like,
if you didn't watch it, I think it's difficult to try.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Oh, you'd be surprised it failed.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's obvious. It's you can't.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
No, it's obvious.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It's obvious.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
And I feel like in the NBA, because there's just
I don't know what it is, but I feel like
in the NBA you can read a couple stories, watch
a couple of highlights and get a feel of how
that game went.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
With NFL, I don't know, not at all. Here's the
other You can't fake it till you there's.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
There's a little something that what Aaron Rodgers said as
well that I do think is true, because I think
it's with inside the NBA who do their post game
highlight packages. They don't just do the two games that
they've done that night. They'll go around the league. But
we do want to hear what Charles in Shack and
Kenny have to say about those.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Players, never muting them.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And we are interested in opinion in that way. I
don't think that that's what we seek out now. From
a sports Center like show, and I have to say
it's Sports Center because it is the only one. Like
Fox Sports One tried to do their own version of
it years ago and it didn't work, and now there's
no show like that. There isn't another network that is
(29:29):
doing a nightly highlight show for like.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Across the nation.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yes, yes, I agree, because there's you know here local
they always do a recap of what happened with LA Sports.
But you're right, I think ESPN is the only one
that does cover just nationwide.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And there I do value the opinions of the people
sitting at the desks. Honestly, I don't take as much
grain of salt into the Tuesday night cast that you
may see on a tnt NBA broadcast and their resume,
like when you put Dwayne Wade on the table names,
but I know that he did some stuff last year.
It's very tough to top a resume like Dwayne Wade, right,
(30:05):
like to hear his opinion. But also Dwayne Wade doesn't
have the voice yet and maybe he will at some
point that Charles Barkley does, or that even Shaquille O'Neal does,
you know, for that matter. So it's not even like
it's not just an anti ESPN thing, Like you really
have to have the personalities. And I think that's what
and not because Dan Patrick is, you know, part of
our network here at Fox Sports Radio. But I think
(30:27):
we all recognize that's what made Dan Patrick and Rich
eyes In and Keith Olberman and Mike Tarico and Charlie
Steiner and all those guys so special because they were
so good and so creative at their jobs did their
own writing. I don't know if there I assume that
the sports and A anchors still do their own writing now,
but it just tells you on how talented and we
know all of those names, and all of those names
(30:48):
went on to bigger and better things, so there is
there is value to it. And I just now it's
not how I consume the celebrity air quotes as they used.
Nature of it doesn't reel me in as much as
maybe it did previously. But inside the NBA kind of
still well, yeah, it's no, it's a new world. We
just Aaron Rodgers is right, we don't watch how we
(31:09):
did fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Ago, not at all, not even a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
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Speaker 4 (31:49):
Zero Turkuo zero, which was prime reme.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I hate, I hate, I hate to admit something that'd
be an expensive Spanish sandwich.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Can know, but I mean, if I'm in a bite
of piece of meum, I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Know right away, Like you took a couple of bites
and we're like, wait a second, what is this? Oh
it's turkey, Like if it was primary okay.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And I would have been like, oh darn, and I
would have still chosed.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
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also got my start in my broadcasting career.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I think you had mentioned that a.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Lot of things I had to do in my early
jobs sometimes you'd have to read birthdays on the air.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
There usually weren't prank names, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
They're like birthdays of who like you would call in
and be like, it's my brother day is twenty four today,
Yes I am.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You wouldn't get like salmonella salmonella is sixty two.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
You wouldn't get those.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But no Bart Simpson calls, is what you're telling me, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
There was something else that I had to do, though.
You'd have to read obits. That's how people would find
out who died, either in the newspaper or listening to
the radio.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Not not eula giz that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You would give it to the obits that are posted
and you would find out who passed away. Well, there's
been a death in the sports world.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
There has been Okay, let me get ready for this.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
There's been a death.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You get ready, It's time to read the oh bit
of the San Francisco forty nine ers. This window of
the San Francisco forty nine ers was laid to rest
on third Sday, December.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Twelfth of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
These Niners were born on February sixth of twenty seventeen,
as Kyle Shanahan was named head coach, hired by new
GM John Lynch. This duo led the forty nine ers
to four NFC championship games, three division titles, and two
Super Bowl appearances. In their pastimes, these forty nine ers
enjoyed walking out of their locker room with a big boombox,
(34:45):
you sure did, losing close games to Patrick Mahomes, wearing
different colored shorts than their teammates in practice, blaming Trey
Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo for everything, and ultimately leading games
in the third quarter. Survivors include quarterback Brock Party, wide
receiver Brandon Ayuk, and a fan base that can't stand
(35:08):
Deebo Samuel. These forty nine ers were preceded to death
by the Harbaugh Kaeperdeck Niners dynasty of the twenty teens
that also won zero Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Visitation will take place.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
In week sixteen in Miami, Week seventeen at home against
Detroit in week eighteen in Arizona. Burial will take place
at the end of the twenty twenty four regular season.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
May they rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
A We're black for a funeral today, Manci, and it's
the funeral of the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I wanted to laugh, it's over, it's done.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
When you said Deebo Jason Stewart and I got wings
last night.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Nice nice Niner fans could not stand Deebo Samuel when
he dropped the ball. My goodness, they lost their minds.
You remember on the play, Jason, they just completely lost
their bleep.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
The one that touched his hands and now.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
One yes, yeah, there was also was that uncomfortable thing.
I don't do it with this often when you go
to a sports bar and you're watching the games and
then there's a group of Rams fans and a group
of forty nine Ers fans and they're not like antagonizing
each other directly, they're just through their through their cheers
are being antagonized into the other group. I'm going to
(36:39):
cheer louder and more guttural the next time. So we
had that dynamic playing back and forth. Dan and I
were very neutral.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Did you wear your Chargers hat?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
No, I don't do that stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well you are in La you can, You're right now.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
It was awesome too, because the way just came by.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Every thirty minutes we were there.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Where were you?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
We were just at a place. Okay, that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
We knew that the Brewers weren't Devin Williams wasn't long
for Milwaukee. Hey, move those closers out do what you
can now, Yeah, get them out. Coming up, We're coming
up now here on the Doug Gottlieb show, Life from
the Tirect. That's tyreq dot com Studios. Former GM at
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, spending over twenty years in NFL
front offices. Mark Dominic joins us on this Friday, as
he does every week.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Hell O, Mark, how are you.
Speaker 11 (37:23):
I'm good. I'm good. Happy to talk to you guys.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Let's dive right into the topics at hands, specifically the
San Francisco forty nine ers. Mont and I started the
show talking about Devondre Campbell leaving San Francisco. I was
curious on how San Francisco is dealing with it and
how the Ravens dealt with Deontay Johnson when he didn't
want to go into the game a couple of weeks ago.
Niners are are outright just you know, likely going to
(37:48):
be releasing Campbell, while the Ravens said, We're going to
suspend you for one game and deal with it from there.
We don't know how they're going to deal with it
just yet. As he's going to be the week fifteen,
I believe is the way they got the Giants coming
up the weekend point is the Ravenston cut, Deontay Johnson
the forty nine ers, will can you give us a
reason on why maybe one team would do one way
and one team would do the other in handling these
(38:09):
similar situations.
Speaker 11 (38:11):
I would think that it's probably something the way that
everything was communicated, handled internally and externally. And I you know,
when you just listen, I mean it's hard for me
to imagine going through that as a general manager, you know,
on you know, up in the box watching it. John
Lynch as the former players by not feeling very good
about that either. But I think it's it's a different dynamics.
(38:31):
And in this situation, Campbell, I think, isn't going to
just get himself cut from the San Francisco forty nine ers.
He just ended his NFL career. And you know that's
the decision he decided to make in the moment. I'm
sure he spoke to his agent or maybe spoke to
people about it, like I'm just not going to do this.
But to watch the reaction of the teammates in a
team that obviously Simprancisco is going nowhere this postseason, you know,
(38:54):
it's it's shocking. It's not shocking that George Kittle and
company all came out, but you can't put them back
in that locker room. You all know that there's no
way you're going to put that person back in your
locker room. And that's simple as that. And I agree
with what the forty nine ers I think will be doing.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
The topic of conversation right now is Devondre Campbell with
the forty nine ers. But we're wondering what the forty
nine ers do moving forward with brock Party. Granted all
these other players are getting paid, how do they handle
brock Party now this offseason?
Speaker 11 (39:26):
Yeah, you know what, I think it's a player that
you still consider signing long term. You know, the rain
was certainly a much more of a factor than I
guess I thought it was watching the game last night,
and and it affected, you know, brock Party, and some
people kind of you give you a hard time about
you know, the size of your hand and some of
the things that people beat up on brock Pertty. Now again,
I like brock pretty, but here's what I would say.
(39:48):
There's no way brock Pertty's representatives came to me and said, look,
we just want Trevor Lawrence Steele. We've been more productive
than he has. I'd say, yes you have, and yes
you should have, but Trevor Lawn should have got fifty
five million, and you're not going to get fifty five mills.
If you want to play this out another year, we
can see if you can take us too, you know,
put the stats back together again like you had two
years ago. It's a possibility, but right now I got
(40:09):
to see more and I believe in brock Pretty, but
I'm not going to pay at the top of the market.
You know, Dak Prescott's at sixty. You know, multiple guys
are at fifty five. I'm looking at brock Pretty going, hey,
if you want to be in the forty five range,
I'm okay there, forty five to fifty with some Inzennas,
I'm okay there. But I'm not giving you the upper
fifty or the mid fifties or upper by any stretch,
(40:29):
because again, I've got control over the player next year.
Now I got franchise Tag, franchise Tag. There's just no
reason to do a deal that's out of the markets stratosphere.
And I think that's what Trevor Lawrence did, and I
think it's going to cost a lot of people jobs
in Jacksonville as well.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Mark Dominic joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Blaios. I'm Dan Byer
in for Doug. When you look at what's happening in Minnesota, now,
you've got a decision with Sam Darnold, how do the
Vikings handle that possible free agency coming up? I know
they have bigger fish to fry this season, but since
we're talking about the future of Brock Purtty, let's talk
about the future of Sam Donald, how does Minnesota deal
(41:02):
with that?
Speaker 11 (41:03):
Yeah. Look, I think that it's one of those ones
where as much as I believe they like JJ, Sam
has played. You know, obviously this last week was spectacular.
I think you're just going to have to let him walk.
I don't think you I don't think you can come
to it. I think what you do is you leave
the door open and say, Sam, it's a market, it's
not what you think it is. You were happy to
do a two year kind of a deal, maybe not
(41:26):
quite the Baker Mayfield, but something in that realm where yeah,
we still have JJ, we still believe he's the future.
But we could do something two year and take care
of you and know that we still have the bridge
for JJ. I think that's the only thing. But I
think you've got to say to Sam, you got to
go see where the market takes you, because if you
can get in the forty five fifty to fifty five
range conversations, I don't think it's in Minnesota, and I
don't think that they're built that way. And I think
(41:47):
that they, you know, really like JJ and rightfully so,
so I think Sam hits the market and I think
the only way he goes back to Minnesota is it's
a smaller, short, two year deal, still a lot of
good money, but it's probably two year, four, two year,
eighty to your ninety kind of a deal.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
The Falcans have lost for in a row. Kirk Cousins
has looked rough at times.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Do you think we're going to see Michael Pennicks sho
in your start before the season's over.
Speaker 11 (42:11):
I think if they get to the point, you know,
where they're completely out of the playoff hunt with just
being the game behind right now, but in the division,
they're five and one within the division, so they can
get tied back to Tampa. There's a chance that they
could still pull this thing off. I don't think they'll
do it until they're at that spot, but I think
if Kirk Cousins has one or two more tough games,
(42:31):
then I think you put Michael pennixkin because the reason
why is because where the salary cap has been and
where the salar caf is going. We've seen it before, right,
I mean, Carson Wentz gets you know, let go, let go,
let go, Jared Goff gets traded. I mean we've seen
big deals moved off of books where you know, the
other team just kind of eats it and says, I'm okay,
We're going to keep moving. And that's where they are
salary cap wise, and I think Atlanta can handle it.
(42:53):
So I would say that if two weeks ago and
Atlanta's knocked out, I would let Michael Penix come in
play those games and pretty much, you know, move forward
with Michael going forward and see what I could do
with Kirk Cousins in the offseason, even though it's gonna
cost me an enormous amount of salary cap.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Mark Dominic joining us here on Fox Sports right yet,
now I know the Falcons front office. Though we'll say, see,
all the criticism we got was not warranted because this
is how it worked out. I would still say, well, then,
why why would you sign Kirk Cousins in the first
place if he's not even gonna make it the full season?
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Like was? Did they still.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Mess up their draft or the signing in what they
did last offseason even if it's played out like.
Speaker 11 (43:30):
This, I feel like they messed up the signing of
the offseason. I think they obviously must have liked Michael Pennix,
you know, previously, and where they messed up was it's
hard for me to imagine based up where they were
draft and based on a guy that had some injury
history that they weren't going to be able to get
him in the draft, and they could have taken that
one hundred and sixty million dollars, put it more on
(43:51):
the defensive side, maybe kept another offensive player or something
like that. But I think that they messed that up.
They messed the signing up. I think they got nervous,
weren't sure, well what if? What if? Instead put yourself
in position to make sure, make sure and so you know,
they can look at themselves whether it's Terry Fontaine or
the GM or who else was all involved in that decision.
But to do both, I still think it's an air.
(44:12):
Hopefully Michael Pennix can be the quarterback of the future,
but I just think when you did both of them,
it's not logical to me. And you could sit there
and say on the other side, well, look we're going
to be okay, it's good. Like I said, you're just
gonna have to eat one hundred million dollars are close
to salary cap space to prove that you made the
wrong decision in March and the right decision in April, the.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
Dolphins and wide receiver Odell Beckham Junior agreed to mutually
part ways.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Today he was released. Are you shocked about that?
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Do you think there is still a team out there
that might be interested in Odell Beckham?
Speaker 11 (44:44):
Yeah? I'm not shocked. I don't think I really don't
think anybody really could be or should be shocked with
this kind of move. Maybe just sort of a simple
fact is you know, the name is wonderful, it's like
one you signed him, and so you win the press
conference because it was like everybody's like, oh, Odell, and
yet he's got what nine catches on the season, you know,
only two in the last three weeks. It's been such
(45:06):
a lackluster performance, and it's I wouldn't sit there. It's
all Odell. I think it's just it's good that you
know the other guys. I think like Tyreek Hill and
obviously Waddle, those guys are eating up all the care
or all the receptions, and then the running backs are
so I think they just didn't see a role fore.
And he's not been as explosive by any stretch. Even
in the games he cop ball, he didn't feel explosive.
(45:26):
So again, these are the tricky ones. You win the
press conference, your fans are all going falling over there
and says, oh my gosh, it's no different. We'll see
what happens with coach Belichick in North Carolina. North Carolina
won the press conference, but we're going to see what
happens over the next two or three years to see
if they were successful in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Mark Dominic with US on Fox Sports Radio seas Monte Bolano. So,
I'm Dan Byer, how surprised were you that Belichick took
that North Carolina job.
Speaker 11 (45:49):
Well, I was very surprised, right, I mean I think
a week ago I thought there's no way of taking it.
And then over the weekend I'm watching you know, Tom
Brady and Rob Ronkowski laugh about the thought that he
would actually be a college coach right on TV.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (46:00):
Yeah, and they feel the same way. I'm like that,
That's how I feel. And I think the scary thing
is for them is, look, I hope he had success.
Coach Belichick's you know, obviously tremendously successful coach. But the
problem is going to be is players coming out of
New England said it was miserable, but they won and
they were happy because they were champions and Super Bowl
(46:21):
rings and all this stuff. So they just put up
with Most people wanted to get the heck out of
there because it was never fun. That is going to
be used against Belichick non stop. And recruiting. So you
can walk into those youth living rooms and those places,
sit there and say, I'm going to make sure your
young man's prepared for the NFL and prepared for life. Well,
I think Curby s Mark's doing that stuff too, right,
But I don't make it miserable. And so you know,
(46:42):
you know, all these different coaches will be like, yeah,
but we're not miserable to go talk to any Patriot
player and see how it was. And I think that's
going to make it a lot harder for recruiting. I
love North Carolina. I lived in North Carolina as my
team growing up. Beautiful, beautiful campus. But I think it's
I wish, yeah, because I think it's gonna be so
much harder because of the portal and nil and just
(47:05):
the ability to compete against the Georgia's and et cetera
in across the country, Texas, wherever it is. I think
it's gonna be a rough run.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, that's the funky thing about it.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I think we've lived so much of our lives thinking
like that there was this hierarchy where the NFL was
the top, and it is. I mean, it's the top
level of football. But when you're talking about challenging coaching jobs,
coaching in college now just seems a heck of a
lot more difficult than the NFL. And I've heard people
say I'd rather coach in the NFL because it's just football.
It's all I have to worry about. Granted, it takes
(47:36):
up a lot of my time, but it's the only
thing that I have to worry about. College just seems
much more difficult now to navigate to the points you made, Mark.
Speaker 11 (47:43):
Well, I think it is. And you can just look
at Jeff Hapley leaving Boston College, going to Green Bay,
becoming the defensive coordinator, and now he's going to be
on the circuit for interviews for head coaching jobs in
the National Football League. Yeah, so you can see that
a lot of that's going to be again the drain
and the no of insight, which is fine. I'm glad,
you know, college players, college athletes are earning money, but
(48:05):
I just think that it makes that job so much
more difficult than it's ever been before.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
He's Mark Dobinic, former GM of the Buccaneers, joins us
every week here on Fox Sports A Radio.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Mark, have a great weekend. Enjoy Week fifteen.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
Thanks you guys have work with him too. Enjoy the game.
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