THE BEST OF THE WEEK OF THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

On this edition of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug Gottlieb recaps his Green Bay Phoenix losing to Michigan Tech and explains why his reference to playing "Nobody U" was taken out of context.

In this version of Love AND Hate, Doug and the guys share what they loved and hated most about the weekend.

Dan shares his "Beyer's Remorse". Doug welcomes Hall Of Famer Brian Dawkins onto the show to talk about his Eagles and something that is very important to him.

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Episode Transcript

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That sounds something I need desperately, right, little applause. Not

(00:47):
sure how many of you are aware, but my Green
Bay Phoenix lost yesterday midday. We played Michigan Tech, a
talented Division two team. We're in Division one team, and
we thirteen point lead in the second half. My point
guard Press and rutgerd dove for a loose ball or
playing without the nation's leading scorer, Anthony Roy, and we

(01:09):
succumbed to a really good Michigan Tech team. And you
know the way look, the way it works is when
you watch the film, and we watched the entire film.
I realized there's a couple of things I definitely should
have done differently and better to put my team in
a better position for success, and they need to improve

(01:29):
as well. But when we got done, you know, I
do a postgame press conference, and the game was at eleven.
It was education Day. So education day means that you know,
kids are in school. It's well, it's finals week for
college students, elementary school students in Green Bay and Ashwabannon

(01:53):
which is part of Green Bay. Essentially, I got a
chance to come to the game. We had about five
thousand people in change, fifty five hundred people in chain
and you know, after the game, because it was early
because it's during school hours, my players, I thought, did
a great job of interacting with the kids, despite the
fact that we were just crestfallen that we lost another

(02:14):
game once again, suffering a defeat in the second half.
So I get all the way home and I live, like,
I don't know, fifteen minutes from the arena, and we're
sitting in the locker room and it's just it's hard.
You put so much into it, and we've gone through

(02:35):
so much, including you know, going all the way out
to California, coming all the way back, and when we
come back, you know, we find out that our best player,
Anthony Roy is out for a substantial amount of time
with the lower leg injury. You know, it just SAPs
any of the energy out of you. See, you got
to get it going positive, and there were some good
things that came from that game, but all in all,

(03:00):
you're still lost. So buddy of mine calls me and
is like, why did you call Michigan Tech Nobody you?
It's like, what are you talking about? Well, there's some
video of you saying nobody you. I don't know what

(03:23):
you're talking about. What are you talking about? So my
athletic director called me and said, yeah, did you did
you say to Nobody you? I said, I don't even
know what you're talking about. So when I got back
to the locker room, you know, again, I got a
phone call and they're like, well, nobody was like what
are you talking about? So, uh, there's I think it's

(03:45):
a fake account. I truly do. I think it's a
fake account on a burner account on social media where
some guy whose name is Mike Ashley released a portion
of a previous post game and again for full context,
here's the reality. I'm the head coach of Green Bay.

(04:08):
Two years ago, green Bay was the worst team individual
in basketball. They fired the coach midseason. Last year, a
man named Sundance Wicks came in, took over the job,
did an incredible job, went from three wins to eighteen wins,
eighteen wins, and then he leaves. I get the job
on May fifteenth, where it's very difficult. It's difficult, of course,

(04:32):
I'm going to take the job. My dream to have
a program and have one like this where so many
people so badly wanted to be good. When you make
your schedule, some games you inherit. Some games you plan
and what we didn't plan for was you know, I

(04:53):
was asked. Last Saturday, for example, we played at UC
Santa Barbara. The Gauchos are really really good, very good
and well coached, and you know there are people that
thought preseason they could be a top twenty five team.
This Saturday we played Drake who's undefeated and just beat
Kansas State in Kansas City. They're very, very good. We've

(05:15):
played Oklahoma State in the road. We played Ohio State
in the road. We played Evansville on the road. We
played West Illinois on the road. Like we've played and
we haven't played like games where you're like, uh, you know,
there are teams Division two, Division three where literally you
can show up and it's like a rec league team.

(05:38):
And my thing has always been like, hey, to go
to a game in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I got to
give you a reason to go, Like the opponent is good,
and Michigan Tech is a good one and they have
a lot of local kids. So I was speaking in
a place and I think this was a week we

(06:00):
could go Wednesday against Milwaukee. I actually thought it was
the Cleveland State game, which was, you know, a week
and a half ago, and I was discussing how difficult
our schedule had been and how everyone we played was
a good at for our level, was either better than
us or capable of beating us. Take a listen, yeah,

(06:20):
I mean this is why you got a schedule like
everybody else does. A couple of D two's early. You know,
I know the league and Julie was here today and
she's wonderful, but the league's like, you know, you got
these tiers on who to schedule like nobody, And part
of the reason I want to play better teams is
like its two degrees outside is knowing like I you know,

(06:44):
I don't really like the idea of nobody you coming
in here and like what I always thought, like what
do we learn playing a game where we win by twenty?
But there's a methodology to it, and I'm gonna have
to adjust moving forward with the schedule. And I know,
like you sit there and you go like, well, Evansville

(07:04):
is just okay, and Cambridge to the Caves like yes,
but every game on our schedule is a game that
we can lose and nobody else does that, now you
know why? Yeah, So I'm not I'm not whining about it.

(07:25):
I've done it to myself. Like one of the things
that I think separates me from other people is mistakes
I've made in life, mistakes i've made professionally, I own.
I've always owned them, even to my team today. You know,
to my team today, they did things which out of
character are not asked to do. That we should have

(07:47):
we should we feel like we should have won the game.
But I did something. There was two instances I could
have called the time out late in the game, drawn
up a play, and given us a clear look. We
got pretty good looks anyway. But that's not the point.
Is to do my job, I have to be willing
to admit, hey, I could have done it better here,

(08:08):
but I I don't. Last night was a crazy night.
You have people, obviously, there's some Michigan tech, and there's
there's always going to be haters out there. There's going
to be people. I have two amazing jobs. I live
an incredible life, more so than more this year. These

(08:29):
are greater opportunities than I reasonably deserve. I am grateful
to them on a day for them on a daily basis.
I don't take that for granted. But I don't really
understand the kicking us while we're down in year one.

(08:52):
But I also like, whoever this, If it's really a
guy named Mike Ansley, you feel free to call the
show you using a quote out of context, and then
reputable news organizations picked it up and ran with it.
I was last night. I was watching our tape talking

(09:12):
to coaches on the phone, and a buddy mine calls
AND's like, hey, why is ESPN? Have you guys have
lost eight in a row whatever on the bottom line.
I was like, what are you talking about. I don't know,
I'm not watching Here's the Dan Patrick Show earlier today.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yes, I was watching the ESPN scroll during Sports Center
after the Bowl game last night, and on the scroll
which includes like North Carolina beats whoever big college basketball games,
men's college basketball, Gottlieb Green Bay lose to Division two
Michigan Tech, a straight loss for Gottlieb's Green Bay team.
That was on the ESPN scroll of.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
News last night.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
How many coaches' names are attached to their team on
the scroll zero generally. I mean that's definitely a shot
to you know, for Schefty, that's a jab from ESPN.
For Doug, that's not right journalistically, that's not right, got
I mean it's it's a good shot, yes, Todd.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Unless it's some type of milestone win there, there should
be no reason to possibly.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Put the coach's name next to the result.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I don't like if Tom Izzo wins this one thousandth game. Okay,
Doug lost to Michigan Tech, like Gottlieb and Wisconsin Green Bay.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Lou Like, that's not fair to Doug.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
That made the bottom line come on, mothership, Shifty Schefty
can take care of himself.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
He doesn't need you. It's I tell you where it
doesn't feel good. I worked at ESPN for nine years
in Bristol. My first year I was I just did
games and I lived in Oklahoma City. When I left ESPN,

(11:04):
I had a five year guaranteed contract on the table.
And I've told people for a long time, probably mistake.
Was really happy living in Canton, Connecticut. Big house, great schools,
good people, knew everybody. I'm still very close with so
many of my ESPN brethren, many of them aren't there anymore.

(11:27):
The first part that they went with for a long
time that I said, I called Michigan tech. Uh, nobody.
You is embarrassing because having worked there, if you didn't
follow the codes of basic journalism, then you wouldn't work
there anymore. And then what is the point. So here's

(11:49):
the thing, ESPN. You're allowed to track every loss and
put it on my name. That's fine. I'd like you
to do the same thing for every win, right like,
we'll keep the receipts. So I don't know what it is.
I don't uh. If it's ESPN protecting Adam Schefter. Adam

(12:14):
Schefter doesn't need protection. He makes well into seven figures, okay.
And by the way, there's been no accountability. It's not
like anybody's going like, hey, by the way, we know,
we think your tone was off, but so was Adam's.
And oh yeah, his tweet was actually wrong, but nobody's
any said that. But piling on. When you just lose

(12:41):
a basketball game, I understand anything like it. Have you, Sam,
Have you ever seen anything.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Like this before?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Ever?

Speaker 5 (12:50):
No? I haven't, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I just I'm like, I'm like blown away by why people.
I love that people care. Just make sure you care
when we win, and eventually we'll win. Just has doesn't
happen overnight, you know. And you know, I can go
into all the coaching things like, hey, we have the
nation's leading scorer. He's not playing. So when you get

(13:15):
that news the day before a game in the middle
of the finals week, when you just traveled back from
Santa Barbara, a game that you were leading when he
got hurt, and then you're still playing pretty well and
your leader gets hurt. Who's guarding the other team's best player,
one of the best, maybe the best Division two player
in the country, and and you have an inexperienced coach

(13:36):
by all estimations, I've coached a lot of games, a
lot of college games. You make mistakes, you lose a game.
But this was not a one year plan, nor did
anybody have any huff and pravado and talk any trash
about any opponents. If you go back and look at
every game we've played, I've made it a special point

(14:01):
to give incredible praise to everybody we've played and the
teams that we have beaten. I've admitted we beat Siue
Brian Brownie's their coach. They were tired, We weren't that good.
They ran out of gas. Hey, we played West Illinois.
They had just gotten back from a West coach trip.
They were dead in the water. I've made sure to

(14:22):
not make it about me, to make it about our team,
to try and do the right things in building a program.
And it's not easy. And I haven't made the excuses
of having the youngest roster in the league, or losing
my best player or any of the other issues that
we run into. We just got to be better. But
I find it really sad. I find it really sad

(14:47):
that I get to be the punching back. Now, the
good part to it is takes all the pressure off
from all my players. Right, nobody's mentioned them by name
or word, and that's fine, and they when we win,
they should get all the praise. But what a weird day,
What a weird thing? Something I said taken completely out

(15:13):
of context and used and weaponized against me as if
I'm some trash talking first time Division one head coach
that calls some that calls an opponent a capable opponent.
Nobody you like, am I an idiot? Maybe I'm an idiot,
but not in this particular case. So here's the point

(15:37):
we can put on digital. Here's the point that you
can remember. Okay, it's not just that what I said
is being weaponized and used in the opposite of how
it was actually said and used in my statement. It's
that reputable people have chosen to use the out of

(15:59):
content statement and it is It shows why social media,
and we've seen this in other parts of social media,
when you show half a video, you're like, yeah, what
happened when the video wasn't being shown? What happened at
the rest of the press conference, what happened at the
rest of the arrest those are the things that when

(16:20):
you're really trying to find the truth you dig into
finding instead you edit something, it goes viral and despite
the fact, there'll be no retractions, no apologies, you know,
none of that. Instead they'll just say, oh, I had
it coming to me. Why because I host a sports

(16:43):
radio show because I didn't think Steph Curry would be
a great pro Okay, Like, how is that where we are?
So here's the honest truth. I don't care. I'm actually
built to withstand a lot worse. Nobody died yesterday. That's

(17:09):
exactly what I told one of my players that got hurt. Hey,
nobody died. I've been in a lot worse shape before,
and you know what I've done. I've dug myself out
of it every single time, and we'll do that here.
So I just I'm sad for the state of the state.

(17:32):
If you will that somehow that's become cool. I actually
understand politicians a little bit more when you're like, well
that that's not at all how that was said, Like
what are we doing? And then it goes viral and
then your friends are like, dude, why'd you say? Like
I didn't say that, and then the whole video comes
out and people are like, well, the whole video is shared, Yeah,

(17:52):
but it doesn't go viral. It's not nearly the same.
Nobody cares. They just want They just want something salacious.
So we're not going anywhere. The show's not distracted me.
I just need to be better at all of both
of my jobs and it's a challenge and I need

(18:13):
more and more help from the people that we have
hired to help us. And if you are not on board,
that's fine. You don't have to be. It's okay. I'm
not for everybody, but just remember the people that make
the comments. Okay, I'll keep the receipts. We'll win. We win.

(18:38):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast. Be
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Sports Radio. Before we get the buyers, Jase, dude, you

(19:02):
have some remorse? Do you have some business to clean up?

Speaker 5 (19:04):
What do you got no, I'm going to save the
remorse for Buyer, but I do want to say this
just a little bit of business for the listeners. I
think we owe it to them. This is the last
day of the year that you're going to get the
Varsity Squad, Sam on the board, Buyer at the updates,
me producing, and Gottlieb hosting last show of the year.

(19:27):
Really it might be we might have one left at
the very end, but I know it's the last show
through Christmas, and I just want to promise the listeners
as you're listening right now, that we're going to give
you some of the best forty minutes of live radio
you've ever heard until the top of they.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Are Wait, so I means you guys are off a
ton because I'm not off a ton.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
That's right, one of us in order to fulfill what
I just described.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, I got all of us has to be missing, No.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
I got it.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
Just like Captain Planet, you know, Earth, Wind, dirt, fire water.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
With our powers combined, which one would you be?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Man, I'd probably be Earth because I like the Earth.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I mean, who doesn't like the Earth?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
It's like the dirt?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Which one would you beat to?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Jason I'm usually on fire, you know, high emotion.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Okay, what about you there? Dad?

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Probably with Sam.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Wait, you're both earth. I thought there was only four
or four things, earth, wind, fire, what's the other one?

Speaker 5 (20:27):
No, I thought we were just being independent of.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
Earth, fire, wind, water, and heart.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh oh that's five.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
And then I'm the heart. Absolutely, you know this thing.
I'm the heartbeat of this bad boy.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
So, Doug, you get.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I think here here's me. I think here, I'm gonna
make an adjustment here. I think Dan is the earth.
I think Jason is the water. Uh wait, what are
the other ones? Wind?

Speaker 7 (20:58):
Oh, I'm the fire, fire, wind, and water, and.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
You're the wind.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
I'm a blow hard.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's why you can just get a little No, you
just get a little windy with he can be it
just a lot going on there. Well, I don't you know,
I just got it. Whereas like this earth is solid
and grounding, right, it's it's it. And I think Dan
picks up, you know, fills in when I'm not on.

(21:23):
He fills in so many holes with like he's a
connective tissue. None of it happens without water. We can't
survive without water.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Mike laninguards the water how about Mike Lane guards are
water our associate producer, Mike.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I thought Mike would be the heart.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
I really did well.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
I's sarcastic. Dan said he's a heart. He's being sarcastic.
But I think Dan is the heart. He could also
be the earth.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh, I think Dan being the heart actually is a
good call.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Okay, I get no.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I don't think you're Earth. I don't think you're I
don't think you play nearly his big a role.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Stak to clan.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
I stake a flag in the ground, in the Earth,
I stuck that flag in there. And if I do that,
you're not stadium. I'll be arrested.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think Jase Dou actually, upon further review, Okay, if
if if Dan is the heart, right, he's also he's
I think he's the heart. Okay, I like this better.
Jase Dou is the fire because especially on the podcast
right where you do, you're annoying like he when he
gets mad about things or he gets locked in on

(22:26):
things like or he gets negative about things like it's
it drives us. You continue to be the wind.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
You continue to be the wind. You are windy, and
then it's what Earth and and water.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
You're the earth because you're showing.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
And then I'm the earth. And I do think that
Mike sustains life, so he's water.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Right, Okay, well maybe it could be you.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Maybe you could sustain life because it doesn't work with
that you hitting the buttons. And then Mike's the wind
because he comes in and goes o. Ye, who does
the best ling guard of I?

Speaker 9 (22:57):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (22:58):
Dan, Dan mine is it's now like a mockery of
me mocking Mike Lingard.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's okay, nobody but nobody knows who Mike Glinguard is,
so they think that's a really good impression where we're going. Yeah,
that's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Doug's take on Kaitlyn Clark is pretty strong.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Brian Dawkins in five minutes. First, let's get the buyer's remorse.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Some have remorse.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
I engage them, but there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
All right, Danny, what do you have remorse for in
sports today?

Speaker 9 (23:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (23:36):
I'm glad that we could hammer that out because, honestly, guys,
I'm hitting close to home.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
I thought better of your Los Angeles Chargers. I thought that.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
Jim Harbaugh and this team would be able to weather
this storm, and we are just a week and a
few days removed from an almost win in Kansas City.
But what transpired against the Buccaneers makes me think maybe
that's more of where the season is going, as opposed
to the tough fight that they had against the Chiefs.

(24:06):
You have to run the ball, you have to be
able to stop the run. They did neither against the Buccaneers.
And the one thing that you can you could always
count on, at least on a Jim Harbaugh coach team,
is they would stick to their identity. That's been their identity.
Without JK. Dobbins, that injury is proving to be a
huge injury. But without him they can't run the football.

(24:30):
Gus Edwards is not the answer, and they still may
make the playoffs because of how open things are for
them with a two game lead over the likes of
the Dolphins and the Colts and Cincinnati. I still expected
more from them and I did not expect them to
fall off in the second part of the season, but

(24:50):
they have losers of three of their last four.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I think the team has gone from in the last
three weeks the team has gone from the team that
you don't want to play in the playoffs to the
team that you're pretty glad to get in the playoffs. Yeah,
I'd agree with that.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I'm gonna I'm gonna give them the benefit of data
just from this standpoint in and I've always thought it,
but now living it as a coach, I know it
to be true, which is those hard losses like they
lost to Kansaty Chiefs, they can linger, especially when you
have a group that hasn't won a ton. You know,
where you lose a game and you think you got

(25:31):
a really good shot against a team that's better than you,
like the Knstay Chiefs, and it's like a loss and
a half. They beat you for the first half of
the for the for part of the next game. You
put so much into the Chiefs that you come back
and yeah, you're leading the Buccaneers at half time, but
then you have nothing left in the tank for the
second half of the Buccaneers boat race. Yet I'm I'm

(25:51):
not disappointed because I do think they're way better than
way further along than they should be with just a
coaching change and a little bit of modest adjustment. Some
of the personnel. But I also wouldn't completely abandon them
as being a solid team, which they didn't look like
in the second half Sunday afternoon, because I think that
there's some resident resident kind of shrapnel from that loss

(26:15):
to the Kaansta Chiefs.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
They have two winnable games at the end of the
year against the Patriots and the Raiders.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Both are on the road.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Patriots is a winnable game by the.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Hold on a second.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
So they have two games at the end of the
year Patriots and Patriots and Raiders. The Patriots game is
for flexbur it's been flexed to Saturday and Week seventeen.
It's this Broncos game. Sure they could win it, but
it is not the guarantee that you thought maybe it
was four weeks ago. And there's also the factor of Denver.

(26:50):
And I think Sean Payton now wants to beat the
Chargers because I think that was the job that he wanted,
and then he ended up just I don't want to
say settling for the Broncos job, but took the Broncos
job instead because they stuck with Brandon Staley. And maybe
to your and Jason's delight, you got Jim Harball but
I think that this game means a lot to the Broncos,

(27:13):
means a lot to Sean Payton, and I expect the
Broncos to come in and win on Thursday Night in LA,
which would be a partial Broncos crowd. So I think
they're going to go to eight and seven. You could
still win those final two games and make the postseason.
But to Jason's point, even if you make the postseason,
I don't know if they're really going to be a
threat to anyone. Fair I'll tell you what to make

(27:38):
it fair. I also have Fire's remorse on my Seahawks.
I talked about it was my hate and seeing the
Seahawks fans not being present in the Lower Bowl in
that game on Sunday Night. But there's also a whole
different situation with what that team is. Can't run the football.
Jackson Smith and jigbad Ten catches against the Green Bay Packer,

(28:00):
DK Metcalf had three, like completely Ryan Grubb right now
is being completely overmatched as an offensive coordinator. And I
was hoping that making the transition from the college game
to the pro game, we bring a lot of new
ideas and different things. It has been the exact opposite,
and the Seahawks offense just looks like a clunker now.

(28:21):
And if they can get a couple of turnovers and
make plays here, or if they get in a shootout,
maybe Gino could just wing it around to be's healthy.
But yeah, it has not been the season offensively that
I would have hoped for the Seahawks under the new
regime of Mike McDonald and offensive coordinator Ryan.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Grub Does it does it make you think that maybe
it's not the offense, maybe it's Gino or is it
the offense?

Speaker 5 (28:43):
I think that there's a little bit of truth to that.
Gino is it.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
I mean, we saw it full display interception in the
end zone. It's got thirteen of them this season. Thirteen
interceptions that is.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
In the end zone.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
That would be way a lot, a whole bunch of them.
But I think we saw what the difference is between
Gino Smith and Sam Howell, who really couldn't do much
on Sunday night. I know he didn't get the practice
all week, but still I do think that there are
limitations with Gino Smith, But for right now, I don't
think that he is their biggest issue.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Their line, I think is the biggest issue of all.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
All right, that's Buyer's Remorse Stut Gotleib show here on
Fox Sports Radio, and let's uh, let's talk with the
Pro Football Hall of Famer. Brian Dawkins joins us on
the Doug gott Lieb Show and he's here on behalf
of Beringer and Lily. We'll get to the Take two
health initiative in a second. But Brian, first, how are you.

Speaker 9 (29:39):
I'm I'm absolutely blessed, absolutely blessed. Can't complain, not even
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Okay, I'm fascinated by so many things going on in
the Nation Football League that you I think have a
better grip on than anybody because obviously you've lived it
and you know it so well. All right, let's let's
get to the kind of brass tacks with the Philadelphia Eagles,
a team that on the field really successful and yet
you know, Jalen Hurts is wide receiving corps are they

(30:06):
getting long?

Speaker 9 (30:06):
Then?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Jalen Hurts with a pretty good answer this this past weekend,
what's the state of the Eagles union from your perspective?

Speaker 9 (30:14):
Yeah, if if if last weekend's game, after last week's
bananigans and conversations or any indication that they're they're trending
in the in the right direction. They're going in the
right direction. As far as that is concerned, I personally,
I'm I'm I'm a huge fan of having to fix

(30:37):
problems throughout the year. Yeah, I would. I would rather
a team that is having success have issues and still
be having, you know, things that could be pointed out
that you don't get completely totally comfortable, like you're just
blowing everybody out to me that you know that team
can easily have some places he's set in and that

(30:58):
complacency can get you kicked out the first round in
the playoffs. So they're having to dig through issues. And also,
I still believe that this is a young core team,
to be honest with you, and they're they're they're still
building a foundation of who they are as far as
the chemistry in the hacker room is.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, and then you know you have Nick Sirianni getting
into one of his defensive linemen as well. There are
some places where confrontation works, right, it just does. Is
this a place where you can actually be good despite
the fact there's confrontation between coaching, player and player and player.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
You know what It's funny to me, though, It's funny
to me that we are having these types of conversations
about coaches having confrontations with players. And this is the
same city that had Buddy Ryan in it. Sure, like
are you serious? Do do y'all not remember? But Buddy
Ryan chewing out guys and then kind of getting in
each other's face sometime, and there's more than just from

(31:56):
time to time. It would be like almost a who team. Like,
So those things I'm not and I'm not sitting here
telling you that that That's why I would love to
continue to happen. But my point is that it happens.
But if you if you have you have love, and
you have accountability in the locker room, then those things
don't turn intop anything else. Then at some point the
other person calm both top parties calming down and basically

(32:19):
saying my bad, and and you move on and get better?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
You do you move on and get better. Let's uh,
let's get to the rest of the league or maybe
even the important teams in that league. What's your thoughts
on brock Party. You know, right now the Niners are
in last place. Obviously, there's been a ton of injuries
on that team, some age, a little bit dysfunction. But
there was talk a couple weeks ago over the Niners

(32:43):
making him a sixty million dollars a year quarterback. If
you're running the Niners, how do you handle brock party?

Speaker 9 (32:51):
Has Rock Purty gotten that team to the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Think this year? No, in the past.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
Yes, No, I'm throwing the pack. Yes, he has has
his play literally screened that. Wow, there's something about him.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Look, I think he's good. I just if you pay
him top of the league money, then something's gonna fall short.
And when he hasn't had everything all his weapons there, No,
he hasn't been at that level.

Speaker 9 (33:22):
So so so you're just gonna roll the dice and
hopefully you get a quarterback that's as capable as him,
as early as you as he is, I don't, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Again, like it's the he does have another year. You
can buy time. You know, there's always and people are
always You can't use the franchise sad of course you can.
But there's there's a difference between not wanting him and
not wanting to spend sixty million a year on him.
That's there. I think Laza up.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
Here's the delimber, here's the dilemma that the front office
will be in though. If you don't give him the
money now, the next year he could absolutely kill it.
And now you're going to be probably and him seventy
million dollars eighty million dollars. You never know what a
quarterback market apart. In the quarterback market is out pacing
everybody by a tremendous pace, but you never know where
that number is going to be. So are you willing

(34:12):
to then wait that out? Are you willing to wait
that out?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Go right ahead?

Speaker 9 (34:15):
But to me, the smart money is as you put
you lock that cat down and hopefully push it out
as long as you can, as far as not having
too much hit the cap so that you can, you know,
go out and get those players or keep those players
and not have have to get rid of so many guys,
like so many teams that don't do the cat well

(34:36):
have to then go out and cut a whole bunch
of guys because they front loaded a gave quarterbacks so
much money that it hurts the hurts the whole team. Yeah,
I am.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I'm also interested in your thoughts on the Lions. Obviously,
Dan Campbell who's frankly one of your contemporaries when you
were a great player in the league. He was a
tight end in the league. He surrounds himself with the
coaching staff of guys that played in in your era
as well, and they've had incredible energy and they're up
to twelve and two record. But it took some chances
last year against San Francisco, and then this past weekend
again took a chance with an early on side kick

(35:10):
early start the fourth quarter because frankly, they couldn't stop
the Buffalo Bills. They had continued injuries. Lose your running
back this week. But I guess my question to you
is do you think that Dan Campbell's style will ultimately
allow them to win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 (35:25):
If you hitting if he's hitting all of his threes.
What I mean by that is you live by the three,
you die by a three. So if you're hitting all
your three pointers in the in the in the NBA,
and you're gonna kill everybody, but wave you're not. He
gonna die by that thing. For so he's extremely aggressive.
He's gonna take those chances. And if he's killing it,

(35:47):
and if he gets all of those, if he gets
to the on side kick. Nobody's talking about it. If
they make those field goal or they go for and
they make those yeah yeah and again forty nine ers,
nobody's really talking about it. So it just depends on
where he lies with that. I personally, I'm not someone

(36:07):
as quite aggressive as he is, but that's him and Detroit.
You if you're listening, that's your coach. So again, do
you wanna need you to live by the three or
die by the three?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Brian Dawkins, Pro Football Hall Famer joining us Doug Gotlib
show Fox Sports Radio. We mentioned Bringer and Lily. They're
part of this It Takes two campaign with the upcoming
Rose bul parade. Take me through the campaign. Why it's
important to you?

Speaker 9 (36:34):
Yeah, it's it's not just important, like it's extremely important
to me.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
You know.

Speaker 9 (36:39):
One of the things that I've in my life as
an athlete, have come to understand is the importance of
being proactive, right, being extremely proactive. And obviously you're going
to be reactive to things at different times, but as
much as possible, I want to be proactive, and that's
what play on the field, but also my health, right,
and so once I caught when it takes two initiative,

(37:00):
and not just the initiative, but the why why they
call it. It takes two. It takes you and your doctor,
and it takes two tests to see if you could
be going down the path of either either having kidney
disease or developed biggest in the future. And that's if
you have type two diabetes and you have high blood pleasures.

(37:23):
And so it hits home for me because my mom
and my dad have both both have type two diabetes,
and both of them have struggle from time to time
up and down with their blood pressure, and so that
is something that is concerning to me. So why got
out of information? I faceted to them their caregivers, and
they have to test. My father has had to test,
My mom is yet to have it. When our next

(37:43):
physical she will. But again we're in the know when
it comes to that. And the number is staggering, like
thirty five million adults are living with kidney disease and
yet only ninety percent or ninety percent shum don't know
that they have it. And so like we're in the
population now getting the tests so that again we can
know if they have it or not. And it's so

(38:05):
me being blessed to now have the platform to team
up to scream it from stream it from the float
right at the roads they parade to help individuals once again,
for those in your household, Yes, your parents absolutely, but
also your aunts, your uncles, your friends. If they fall

(38:26):
into these categories, if they then get the same tests
and then they going down the journey that they go
now find out that they're in that, that they're in
the cabot or could have it, then they can then
get on the same pace with their doctor to make
sure that they're they are here and they're here healthier longer.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Brian, where can where can people learn more?

Speaker 9 (38:51):
Tests? Your kidneys dot com. That's your kidneys with a
S dot com.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Test your kidneys dot com. He's a Pro Football Hall
of Famer. You'll see him on that float during the
Rose Bowl parade. He's one of the Brian Dawkins Me,
thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. Merry
Christmas to you.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
God bless you brother.

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Monday night football. Neither are particularly great games, but I

(39:40):
do have one player I want to watch. Figure out
can you still play football? We'll get to that in
this hour of the show. Reminded the podcast is available
top of the next hour. Just typing Doug outlet for
your podcast. But we do this every Monday kind of
recap on our own personal weekend. We call it love
and Hey what did you love? God?

Speaker 6 (40:03):
I love you and what did you hate?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
These Claire hay Is love Love Love ah, Yes, things
we'd love from the weekend. I don't always go first
in this segment, but in this particular case I will.
It's not cliche. Maybe it is, but I love watching

(40:30):
Army Navy.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
I just do.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
And my guys are playing college basketball for the right reasons.
There's plenty of guys that play for the right reasons,
but you know, you have young men who are going
to serve our country for at least four years, but
many for the rest of their lives, and they also
play football. The pageantry. I think CBS does an amazing job.

(40:58):
Amazing job of that game. By the way, that was
an upset Navy stomps out Army and Army of course,
that started the season nine and I ended up nine
to two in the season. But Army Navy to me
is just a love watch. I enjoy it. I realized
they're young men and women that are better and are

(41:19):
willing to sacrifice more the ultimate sacrifice for our country,
which I've never put my life on the line. I
respected a great deal.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Army Navy.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Loved it.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Dan Doug.

Speaker 8 (41:31):
I know we try to stick to sports in this
and I will in my hate section, but I am
sorry I missed your game on Saturday. I am sorry
I missed the Rich Davis Christmas party on Saturday night.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
But I feel that I do have a rich had
a Why didn't anybody invite me?

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I was around Saturday night in the valley some Saturday night.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I think the in fact got lost in the mail.
They didn't know which address, because yeah, a couple of times.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Sure, So I apologize for missing out on those events.
But on Saturday, the reason that I did so was
I got to reconnect with a cousin of mine that
I hadn't seen for thirty years. Me and her older
brother were basically best buds, you know, throughout junior high,

(42:20):
in high school. She's about ten years younger, but she
got engaged in her boyfriend's a pilot out here in
Los Angeles, and we sat. We met up in Century
City at the mall, very festive atmosphere. Brody was hanging
out and he hung out for about a two and
a half hour lunch, which was gangbusters, but then we

(42:42):
had to go look for toys.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
But the point being lunch. He was a champ, and
it was just great to connect.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
And it's very difficult to pick up where you left
off when you probably left off when they were in
first grade and you were in high school, and so
it's but it was really really neat, so I encourage
especially over these holiday Over these holiday times, it was very,
very fulfilling. It was a great afternoon, and again you

(43:11):
feel like you picked up where you had left off,
even though you have no idea where you left off,
but you just didn't miss a beat with family, and
so we had a we had a really good Saturday.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
It was a lot.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
It was a lot on the little guy. At the
end of the end of.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
The day at the mall, we were crying at the
elevator and the whole deal. But but yeah, So it
was a really good day to do that and really
felt fulfilled in this holiday season.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
That's goode Okay. Connecting with old friends, which.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
I did as well at the gamily family, Yes.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Me old and family. I did that at the game
as well. What about you there, Jace Tuo? What he got?
What'd you left on the weekend?

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Hey guys, there's a reason why Beetlejuice was made the
Beetlejuice sequel. It's the same reason that the Top Gun
sequel was made thirty years after their original. It's the
same reason. And I looked this up that Madonna has
the fifth largest selling tour this year at age sixty eight.

(44:11):
Jen Exher's love their nostalgia. They love it, and they're
gonna pay for it. I felt very nostalgic walking into
the Thunderdome on Saturday afternoon. Me too, nostalgic because each
of my college years, the trip to Santa Barbara was
the best weekend trip the road trip to Santa Barbara
to go to the Thunderdome to watch the likes of

(44:33):
Bruce Bowen and Greg Vernon dominate the gauchos. That was
my nostalgia. So I walk into the building and you
look up in the rafters and you see Jerry Pim,
a picture of Jerry Pim, you know, you see a
picture of Lucius Davis, Eric MacArthur. These are guys that
I saw in college basketball. It really brought me back. So,

(44:56):
you know, the tickets were great, Doug, the company was great,
but it was just a night of nostalgia and thank.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
You for that.

Speaker 7 (45:04):
Jason was greeted with this as soon as he walked in.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
To another edition. I've been there. So I've been there
so many times for tournaments and camps. And it's called
the Thunderdome, Sam, do you have any idea why?

Speaker 7 (45:24):
Probably because if it's fully uh fully full capacity, it
gets pretty loud.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
I imagine you know why it gets the acoustics of
the design.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yes, what aspect of it?

Speaker 5 (45:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (45:35):
What.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Have you been in the building, yes, Doug, I was
there watching your game, that's right. I mean before that, oh,
I had never first time there.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
First time, did you notice all the wood?

Speaker 6 (45:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (45:45):
Yeah, I noticed that it had a cool look, kind
of industrial looking up there. But the wood is it
helped kind of reverberate sound yes?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yes, yes, And and look obviously very sparsely attended game.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
It was.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
It's the day after finals for Santa.

Speaker 7 (46:01):
Barbara's right, it's a lot of students were gone mostly.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, and everybody's kind of douced out, and it's not
like we're packing them in right now. We had a
good little crowd there. Look our good little section, there
are people.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
There were a lot of Green Bay fans there.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Good little sex of our people.

Speaker 7 (46:13):
Campus itself was pretty much deserted. You know, I was
driving around after, before and after the game and there's
just nobody around except for the people going to the game.

Speaker 8 (46:21):
So, Doug, did you completely forget that Sam was there?
Because twice you've mentioned that Jason I did to the game.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well, because I saw Jaystu before the game, I didn't
see Sam. Sam. I saw Sam and the photos.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
Did you ever see me sitting close behind the bench.
Did you ever just see You're like, oh, Sam finally
showed up.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
No porties, I think my no my my daughters.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
It's really funny. My one of my daughter's best friends,
she actually spared neighbor in Newport Beach. I call her
no rails Hails. She's a she's a show jumper and
she goes to Santa Barbara City. Haley Weber was behind
with her friend. She's just weird, Like you look up
and you're not really seeing other people, and then you
know right behind your bench. But I other than the

(47:05):
road right behy my bench, I didn't look up and
see anybody, and I was.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
It's all just blurred out right. You're you're you're focused
on it, trying to a little bit. I mean, you know,
game turned around or whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yes, there was that. There was the injury to Anthony Roy.
It did. It got away, It got away from us
really quickly, and you're processing. I was also like, I
I wanted to be on my I wasn't my best
behavior because my mom was there. My mom doesn't care.
But I have a really really young team and they

(47:39):
just oftentimes don't react when I jump them when I
freak out. So I was trying to. So you're like,
in addition to all the other things you're processing, you're
like don't say the F word. Don't say the F word.
Don't say the F word.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
And I didn't.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I think I'm gonna lipt the ford once, but I
did not say that.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
That's for you and for Brody for being on your
best behavior. Yeah, Now during the layup line, I did
notice talk about you were kind of distracted and walked in. Now,
during the lay up line, I noticed I watched Ben
Holland walk into Yeah, Ben Hallen was there, and then
he walked right up to you, And I thought I
saw like a second of like, who was this guy?

(48:23):
Or did you know he was going to be there
because maybe you were distracted or whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Did not know Ben was going to be there. I
was very surprised. I was like, what theag's Ben Halen
doing here?

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Guessing he lives in the area.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Former Ben Hallen was was it long? Was an assistant
there under Jerry Pim who was calling the game for
UC Santa Barbara's for the ESPN Plus, So it was
like legends day. He and Jamie Dixon were famously assistants
at UCSB.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
Were you as surprised as I was when I saw
Ben Holland in front of me at Mulberry about a
decade ago.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
That's a lot more surprising.

Speaker 8 (48:57):
Yeah, I was like, oh, actually he was behind me
now because I was waiting in line, and then just
came over the hill for a slice.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I mean, who didn't. Who don't come for a slice?
Smollberry's really good, really good, really good.

Speaker 7 (49:12):
We got some good spots here on Ventura. Oh I
haven't gotten to my love yet, No, you have not.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Quickly.

Speaker 7 (49:16):
It sort of ties into what Jason was talking about,
but I mean, I had to love my very FSR
intensive Saturday of Leisure and Recreation started my day though,
watching that Army Navy game, and it's cool to see
that Navy beating Army, a ranked army team since the
first time since like the nineteen fifties, when you know

(49:37):
the military countiums. I'm sure we're ranked a lot more
often they had. They were a little bit more more
of a contender back in the forties and fifties. So
that was neat to see that. And then I made
my drive up to Santa Barbara to go check out you.
Game was running a little late, but the drive in
was beautiful. There's some kind of low hanging mist in
the mountains and it's a beautiful drive. You get next
to the you go on the one oh one, you

(49:58):
get next to the ocean. So I got in, got part.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Got in.

Speaker 7 (50:01):
Your game is about twenty minutes late, so I didn't
get to say hi to a Doug. And you know,
I don't want to bother you after the game. I
don't even know what your schedule's like.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
So I was in and out.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
I was there, though, enjoyed it the concessions there at
the Thunderdome. First of all, I loved the arena, and
the concessions were so modestly priced. I got like four
items for under twenty dollars. That felt in this day
of this day and age inflation.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Yeah, you're like, I got free tickets.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
I got free tickets which, by the way, Doug, they
printed out they do the old school printed out like
laser tickets, and I that's now, keep sake of mind.
I put it on my Twitter at io was Sam
ninety nine, along with some photos from the weekend. But
I love the old school. You still get an old
school yellow ticket. And then watched the game. And then
I headed back to La Area and went to Rich
Davis's party. Lots of good food, ate a lot of

(50:46):
gabba ghoul got to rub.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I can't believe nobody invited me to Rich Davis's party.
Well we including Rich Davis.

Speaker 7 (50:52):
Yeah, I don't know. We just we didn't know you'd
be in the valley that night.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I mean, you're I was in the valley.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
Where in the where?

Speaker 7 (50:56):
Where in the world is Doug Gottlieb San Diego.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
You know, my mom, my, brothers and friends. We all
went to.

Speaker 7 (51:04):
We all we like what stay, yes, stay, and Ilavis
is say in Santa Barbara, go to free Birds. I
love going up to that area because there's like I
love Goalada State Park Beach, so I would have made
the drive for like pretty much anything.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
So it was a great day. I'm glad I made
it up there.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
Got to see your game, and I actually wanted to
introduce myself to your mom, but I I jetted. I
jetted out after the game I did. I was just like,
you know, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go traffic.
I know, the traffic was so reasonable. It was a
very affordable game to go to. The parking was a
great price concession, so I love that. And Rich Rich's

(51:37):
party was fun too, so great Saturday. Lots of FSR
schmoozing going on.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
That's my love.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
All right, let's get to what we hated it from
the wa again. I'm gonna start again. Felt like same
old Chargers. Yes they didn't. Taystu like the charge.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
It feels different. It feels different, I think I.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I thought it was going to be different, and then
they just kind of no showed against Tampa.

Speaker 7 (52:06):
They were up seventeen thirteen, weren't they They had a
lead at halftime, and then it just completely got away
from them. They didn't score a point after that.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I don't they pulled a Green Bay. That's what they did,
green Bay Phoenix. They just got away from them. And
I just I'm watching the game, like what you know,
I don't know, just losing to Tampa. And I know
Tampa's in first place, They're a lot better than we're
we're acting, but I don't know. It just it felt
like Samuel Chargers.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Just to add some perspective though, you know, I think
we've both agreed on this. I had no expectations coming
into the season. They could have won two games. I
would have been fine because it's part of the rebuild
with Harbaugh getting his guys in there. So if you
were to say to me at this point before the
season that they would be eight and six and they
would be in the last playoff spot and two games

(52:52):
up in the playoff spot, I'd be like, I'd take that.
So I want to keep perspective on this season.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Okay, what'd you what did you hate their? Jase? Do
you always hate everything?

Speaker 5 (53:05):
All right, Doug, this is gonna this is gonna take
a little bit, because my what what annoys me about
this entire thing is that there hasn't been a responsible
journalist that has done their job.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
So I do.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
I was forced to do Aaron Rodgers, I was forced
to do my own research for your annoying today. So yesterday,
Jonathan Taylor drops the ball at the goal line. You've
talked about it with with TJ, you talked about it
with Buyer last hour, drops the ball at the goal line,
and that very much impacted the game. Uh And afterwards,

(53:42):
John Taylor was not asked why he did it. He
basically just was just asked, you know, how crucial was that?
And all this stuff? Now, one reporter asked him why
I looked at the transcripts, I had the same question
weeks ago, and we talked about the same topic. Why
aren't these athletes? Asked why? Because I need to know
that the answer. When you and me and Sam and

(54:04):
Dan talked about it three weeks ago, we were split
down the middle. You think it's not done on purpose.
You think it's the excitement of the moment. Sam agreed
with you. Dan agrees with me, and that it's a
hot dog moment. It's a look at me moment, It's
how cool am I moment? So I'm like, how could
we be split on this? So I said, I'm going

(54:25):
to go into my phone and ask people that know
what they're talking about. I sent a text to a
friend of mine who's a coach at Chapman College head
coach at Santa Ana College. I asked Kyle Brandt, and
I asked rich Ormberger. They're split right down the middle.
Rich Ormberger and my guy Casey Sean that you know
he agrees with Dan and me, and Kyle Brandt and

(54:50):
Jonesy at Santa On College agree with you and Sam.
I can't believe that nobody knows why these people do it.
That's what's annoying to me is that the the press.
The reporters have not followed up on these answers.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
It's the weirdest thing. I think there's a little bit
of both. That's probably why, because I think there's a
bit of an out of body experience for a lot
of these guys when they score a touchdown. You know,
just the utter insure euphoria that yeah you want to celebrate,
Yeah you want to go and freak out and you
drop the ball. And I also think, again, we say

(55:28):
this like half jokingly about everyone in sports having ADD
or ADHD, but it's really kind of true. Right, So
you're can only concentrate for so long, and you know,
on one singular focus, and then you have the ball
and then your focus goes to celebrating it and you're like, oh,
I dropped the ball. Uh Dan Buyers. Let me hate

(55:50):
it from the weekend.

Speaker 8 (55:51):
I hated that last night Lumenfield was taken over by
a bunch of Packer fans. And it may not have
been an entire take goal, but for a fan base
that prides themselves on the number twelve and being the
twelfth man and now the twelves because of copyright reasons,
to have fans take over the lower bowl of your

(56:15):
stadium is not a good look, and I think that
there are a bunch of different reasons for it, and
I'm not blaming all Seahawks fans for this. The Seahawks
for some reason have a weird way of handling tickets.
That's why you can never get a cheap ticket on
the secondary market for a Seahawks game. It may have
been season ticket holders doing that. Well, if we just
sell our tickets for the Packer game, we can end

(56:37):
up paying for the rest of our package. But usually
if you're buying those tickets, you should have enough money
to be able to buy season tickets. It just didn't
make a lot of sense, and it was tough to
see because it really was. I know, the Seahawks played
the Niners on a Thursday night game, but this was
an eight and five team leading the division, and green
Bay comes in and the Seahawks haven't beaten the team

(56:59):
really that's better than them and all this season, and
you had an opportunity to do so. And not only
did you lay an egg and have green Bay run
over you, you also did it in front of a
large contingent of their fan base, and that was very
disappointing to watch last night.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
It is weird, right, and we can speak to that
being Charger fans. What it's like to have your stadium
taken over. Of course, Seattle you never think of. I'd
love to know why, other than there's just Packer fans
kind of everywhere. Right, it's kind of a it's.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
A thing now, But it's easy to be a Packer fan.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
It is easy to be pack Yeah, but it's been
easy to be a Seahawks fan. They've been good for
a long time now. Like, let's not act like there's
been that's sounded like there's been a woe is me
here with the Seahawks.

Speaker 8 (57:45):
I would I would beg to It's been about a
decade for the Seahawks. Nobody really cared about them during
the homegrown era and then before that it was just
basically eight and eight was your best stuff for Green Bay.
You've had it good since nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Sure, Like really the Seahawks.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
I look at their there, Dan, how old were you
when you made that life decision?

Speaker 5 (58:09):
You're like, that's my team. I met the Seahawks when
I was seven years old.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
Yeah, I thought it would be six or seven and
you chose a team that is harder to root for
when you're living in a state where the pride enjoys
the Packers. And yes, it is incredibly easy to be
a Packers fan. You just sit back and let the
wins roll in most years.

Speaker 8 (58:29):
And there's also this this lovability to them, where like
people say it's like it's tough being a Cubs fan. No,
it's not, because you embrace losing and then when you
actually win a World Series it's the greatest thing. But
there's this this kindness to it. I think maybe not
to the maybe the Cubs isn't a great example, but

(58:50):
it's just it's I don't think it's very difficult. You
come to this place and Sam, you're one of like
five Packer fans here.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
Yeah, I'm the only one from Wisconsin at least I'm
kind of close to this state. There's like California natives
out here we work with who are big Packer fans,
some even bigger fans than me, like lead A Lap
who works on two pros and a cup of Joe.
He went to a game already this year, like he's
a legit, die hard Packer fan.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
And became a backer because lead to up and so
what did What did you say, Jason? I just thought
that was a major name drop by Samurai was pals.

Speaker 7 (59:29):
You know, we bonded over the Packers and and you
know various other things. I worked with Lee for about
six months.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
I actually have one more thing I hated from the
week do it? What's the name of the Wizard's owner?

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Johnson? Not the Wizards, the Shela Johnson.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Now, Sheila Johnson was the Mystics, right, Did you guys
hear what she said this weekend? Yeah? So I guess
it was Thursday because I wasn't on Friday. So bear
with me. Everybody reacted to it. Some react to it Friday.
Also Friday, we're getting ready for football games. So this

(01:00:07):
was Sheila Johnson. She's the owner of the Washington Mystics
of the WNBA, and this was her response to Caitlin
Clark winning Time Magazine's Person of the Year.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
I want to be very diplomatic about this. It's just
the structure of the way media plays out race. I'm
gonna be very honest. I feel really bad because I've
seen so many players of color that are equally as
talented and they never got the recognition that they should have,

(01:00:41):
and I think right now it is time for that
to happen. So last night we read Time magazine where
Caitlin Clark was named Athlete of the Year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Why couldn't they.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Have put the whole WNBA on that cover and said,
the WNBA is the League of the year because of
all the talent that we have. Because when you just
keep singling out one player, it creates hard feelings, and
so now you're starting to hear stories of racism.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Within the WNBA, and I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
We have got to operate and become stronger as a
league and respect everybody that's playing and their talents.