January 6, 2025 • 36 mins
On this version of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most about the sports weekend. Doug welcomes the Boston Globe's senior NFL writer Ben Volin onto the show to give the details of the Patriots' firing of Jerod Mayo, the other head coaching moves, and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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Dan Byer's alongside Jason Stewart's alongside we got a cast
of a bunch of a bunch. You know what we
do is we like to reflect. And last week was
a big reflection week, right, New Years and et cetera. Well,
now we reflect on the weekend and so so every Monday.
And by the way, Ben Bollen's going to join us
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about midway through the hour. Ben covers the league for
the Boston Globe, but he's been the beat reporter for
the Patriots. So why Girodmeyo got fired? I think he'll
know and does it? Is it directly correlating with the
fact that Brabel wants the job?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is that the plan? Well we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But every Monday we kind of take a breath, look
back at the weekend and decide what we love what
we hated from the weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We call it love and hate.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
God? I love you?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Needles play?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Is okay?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The love segment feels like it feels like a Dan
Byer thing right. Dan's got a lot of love in
his heart, loves sports, loves his family, loves his job.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Danny, what'd you love from the weekend? Dog?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
This one may be hidden in the weeds a little bit,
but there's there's just something There's I could go with
the Seahawks great ten win season, which ten end up
in a playoff berth, which may just as well be
my hate. But there's something that happens throughout the holiday
season and really gets ramped up around this time, and
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especially because of the college football playoff that ends up
being on ESPN, Doug, it's been the rolling outs of
the Masters promos. Now, the first one actually had happened
in late mid to late December where we get the
video of the drive down Magnolia Lane and the Great
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Green Lush Fairways that is Augusta National. But it really
does get amped up here around the New year and
in this final part of the season, because it's like
the networks, CBS and ESPN specifically, are just trying to
tell you it's twenty twenty five, you know what I mean,
Like this is we are in the new year. Let's
look ahead. And it had been the unveiling of the
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Masters promos and commercials that they have to hype the
event coming up in April. I know, parts of the
Midwest are, you know, kit with this horrible storm of
snow and ice and hopefully they can be safe, but
it gives you that little bit of spring, that hope
of spring.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
The commercials that I'm talking about, you know, the ads
just it's not it's not anything you know, out of
the ordinary, but everything is extraordinary when it comes comes
to the Masters so it's just the unleashing of the
Masters promos that I just felt that I saw a
lot more over this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
All right, Jill, let's go to Ryan Smith.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Ryan, thanks for the response. Guys, nobody else saw. Thank you.
Move it on. Jim Nantz is no longer doing it
correct or No, he's not four.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
No, he's not doing the Final Four. He's doing the.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yes, which I think is the reason why he's not
doing the Final Four because he can spend more time
doing because it's that same week.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yes, that's just that's what he loves.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I mean, he loves he he's been synonymous with the
Final Four, but Iron Egle deserves a shot. But the
Masters his like the Masters, I have no, I just
didn't have anything to talk to it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I wasn't trying to top Rad's what you loved.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I remember.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
I remember once Jim Natz came on a show that
I used to be a part of and he came
on right in the pocket there between the Final Four
and The Masters, and my host at the time gave
him credit for making himself available during a busy time,
like you got balls for coming on the radio show,
And I'm thinking, yeah, he's got balls. He went from
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a very very heavily produced Final four where he stayed
at the best hotels, took a private jet to Augusta,
where he was very heavily produced on the other end.
So yeah, it took a lot of balls for him
to create ten minutes for radio.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
But he was nice, wasn't he? Great guy?
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I don't think there's a broadcaster more synonymous with an event, right, Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
No, you know that, you know, you know Jim Nance's
ultimate gift is right he can come and go through
a room of people, go speak at room people three
four hundred people and get introduced to them, and then
come back around to those people at the bar hours later,
remembers everybody's name, what they do.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
That's a gift. That's a superpower. Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It is. Ryan Smith.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
What do you got, Robert Kraft? What's up, Bobby?
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Remember when he said he found Bill Belichick's successor and
like he did lots of research and he was ready
for this and it was gonna be great, and uh yeah,
may only lasted what one season? Matter of fact, he
got fired what an hour after the game? No exit interview,
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no nothing. He didn't wait till the next day, and
I just pictured Bill Belichick in a dark room just
laughing his ass off, and that just made me love life.
I couldn't stop laughing at that image in my head.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Jason Stewart, So I like it.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
When the Chargers beat the Raiders. The Raiders have always
been the rival, and it's always good to beat the Raiders,
no matter how piss poor they are as a team.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Watch your mouth.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And for the first quarter or so yesterday, the Raiders
are really trying hard, and it was a game, but
the Chargers did something that they never do, and they
put their act together and they won going away. You know,
Charger teams have never done that. Jim Harbaugh. Charger teams
do put it away. And now we're going to Houston
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and we all have to have an honest conversation about CJ.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Stroud.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Guys, since the second tank Dell went down and we
saw some gen Z quarterback crying on national.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
TV, dude stopped.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
He has not has not put a good quarter together.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
No he was. He hasn't been great all year. Do
you see what happened? To think that's ne Bro.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
No, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Like gen Z, like come on, man, no, no stop.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Gen Z is Caleb Williams and C. J. Stroud crying
on the sidewines. We expect more from our field general.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
You stop your charges.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
You gotta stop.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
I expect more from my field general, more than you.
I don't think Patton was crying when he lost troops.
You can't.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
It's the same analogy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
No no, no, no, God no no. I look, my
favorite part is what brought me pure joy this weekend
was you know what's happened to Quinton Johnson. Quinton Johnson
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had thirteen catches on fourteen targets.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Quentin Johnson had the.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Reputation come out of TCU as being stonehands from necessary roughness.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's a reference.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think buyer gets that reference because it feels like
a movie of the few that Byer has seen necessary
rough That was Quinton Johnson all of a sudden two years.
Some of it's just time and reps. Everybody bailed, myself
included on Quinton Johnson and the GM of the Raiders,
Tom Teluska. When he drafted, I was like, dude, quin
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Johnson can't catch. He's like, actually, his catch rate is
way higher than a.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Lot of the guys.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Taken above him, and I was like, and then last
year he couldn't catch, And you know what, He's had
a good year this year, had a great game on
Sunday against the Raiders. Of all the tricks that Harball
has pulled, making Quinton Johnson able to catch.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
A football is the greatest. I was so happy to
see that for Quentin Johnson.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
It's great to see.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I agree, and they get they get those Texans coming
up in the wild card round.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Those Chargers.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Man, you got to stop with a gen Z like
the dude's leg almost fell off and it's his boy,
and Tank Johnson's been through a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I don't That's not a gen Z thing. He's just
a human being.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Have we have we seen a quarterback crying on the sidewines?
Until then, we've seen players cry on the side of
the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Quarterbacks, man, I don't know. It was pretty nasty and
anything was pretty nasty, bro. And again, I have a
I'm the guy who watches those injuries over I've seen
the Tank. I've seen Tank's injury fifteen times because I
like that stuff on repeat. But when it's your boy
and you see it in person, and you think, oh
my God, he may never play again.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Like that's what goes through your head. Let's get to
what we hated from the weekend. If you couldn't, all
of them are love segment.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Our hater is also our producer, Jason Stewart, What's day
from the Weekend.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
I need to rope Dan Byron on this conversation because
if if I'm wrong about this, you need to let
me know down.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
So when the.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Oilers wear their throwbacks, sorry, the Tartans were the throwbacks,
which is the Houston Oilers against the Texans. To me,
it strikes me of one of two things. They really
love their throwbacks and they want to pay tribute to
the former Houston the city of Houston, or it's like
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a world class troll that they're saying, we left your
city and we're gonna wear your jerseys against your newer team.
What's the background there and is it not in bad
taste for them to do that against the Texans.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, it's it's absolutely one planned and done to rub
it in their face. The Oilers wanted a new state.
The Astronome was a dump, didn't feel they got the support,
so they left for Tennessee. And if you remember, actually
played two seasons as the Tennessee Oilers, in one in Memphis.
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They played the next season in at Vanderbilt Stadium. I
attended a game Jaguars oiler Tennessee Oilers nineteen ninety eight,
late September of nineteen ninety eight to be specific, and
it was so there is an oiler connection, but just
very very thinly veiled if you will, to Tennessee. But yeah, absolutely,
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it is to troll the Texans. It is patrol the
fans of Houston. That is exactly what it is all about.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Those uniforms are so awesome.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Because it's the same ownership family.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's the Adams family, but Adams has passed along, but
it stayed within the family.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
So that is why.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Who looked better the Titans or the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Well, the Broncos because they won. That's like when you're
that you are when you're the Titans wearing those.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You just did your uniform breakdown which ones you like better?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
The Broncos just looked really good yesterday with the field
and the whole deal. So I would put Denver as
much as I love the Baby Blues, and I'll get
those uniforms. Look, maybe it's something too with the fake
field turf in Tennessee. Not quite sure their end zones
were painted in as well, but Denver seem to pop more.
I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give the edge to Denver.
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And I'll also say this with Denver, like when they
wear those uniforms, they look right correct, like they're like,
You're like, Okay, this is the Broncos.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Yet we've had thirty years of that.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Other pattern and design and Super Bowls won by the Broncos,
three of them in that pattern and design. Yet when
they wear these, they're just like, Yep, that's the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
At least that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I agree, I agree, okay, Dan, would you hate from
the weekend?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well, I hate that they are fifteen to ten win
teams in the NFL and only one, the only one
that didn't make the playoffs were the Seattle Seahawks, and
that's just oh man, what can you do. Somebody's got
to be left out, and unfortunately it is my favorite team.
So a ten win season. If you would have told
me at the beginning of the year. Seahawks, by the way,
fired offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb today, if you would have
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told me at the beginning of the year that this
team is going to be a ten win team. I
would have taken it on the spot and said yes,
I would have assumed that there'd be a wild card,
maybe a chance at a division. In the end, they
tie the Rams for the best record in the division,
with the Rams win the division because of the tie breaker.
But yeah, it stinks when there's every team in the
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playoff picture as double digit wins and the one that
is left out of the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'll tell you what I hated is that the Miami
Heat are going to listen to trade offers for Jimmy Butler.
And I hate it only because you know, Jimmy Butler
had the press conference with Jason Stewart called what'd you
call it?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You said it pathetic?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Oh, I thought it was pretty pathetic.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, yeah, I thought pathetic was a little strong. But
then I'm equally pathetic as the Miami Heat suspending him
for seven games. The seven games and January fifteenth. January
fifteenth is when all these players had signed deals this
past year.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Can then be traded.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
They even went out on Twitter and said that now
they're going to listen to deals like just let him rot.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Just let him rot.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Jimmy Butler is a diva, and you know he went
to the NBA Finals with you. If he doesn't like it,
you don't have to acquiesce and trade him.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Let him rot. That'd be my thing. I hate that, Ryan.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Well, I hate the fact that the only AFC West
team not to get into the playoffs were my Raiders.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
That hurts.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
What hurts even more than that is the Raiders kept
on shooting themselves themselves in the foot, and now they
have the sixth pick overall. I don't know why they
kept on winning, and now I'm realizing that they're probably
not gonna be able to get a good quarterback because
they kept winning these these stupid games they had no
business in winning.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
So yeah, that's what I hate.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
All right?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Any other hate hatred? You guys want to get out
from the weekend. Jason, I know you have more things
than you hate.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I mean, I've got a lot of things I hate,
but I love staying on the clock more than I
love voicing what I hate.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I know you vented. I just want to give you
a chance to make sure you vented. You know you
don't want to It's like any relationship, right, you don't
want to keep in that stuff in and that is
love and hate.
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Hope you had a great weekend. Not a great weekend
for the Patriots. They win the game, but lose the
number one pick in the upcoming NFL draft, and then
they summarily fired their head coach to Rod Mayo. Ben
Bolan joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. We're
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live at the Tyreck dot com studios. For people don't know,
Ben has covered the Patriots for years. He's the national
NFL writer for Reporter and insider covering the National Football
League for the Boston Globe. What is your reaction to
Rod Mayo only get in one year.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
With the Patriots.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
I'm not surprised to see him get fired because I
think it was pretty clear throughout the year that Trod
Mayo was probably in over his head and wasn't ready
for the job, and that was kind of what everyone
was saying when he got the job. He didn't have
really nearly as much as experience as all the other
coaching candidates out there. The Patriots didn't really surround his
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staff with much experience, and the roster will looked bad.
So everyone kind of knew that the Patriots were going
to be in for a long year. I guess where
I am surprised is that Robert Kraft was willing to
rip off the band aid and make the move, even
though it made him look pretty bad. You know, Robert
Craft made such a big deal last year about Girod
Mayo's our hand picked guy. We identified him years ago
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to be Bill Belichick's successor, and we think he's going
to be great, and I trust my instincts. And they
didn't go through an interview process, they didn't talk to
any outside people, and they just elevated this very inexperienced coach.
And I give Robert Kraft, you know, some credit for
at least being willing to make the move, even though
it doesn't make him look good right now. But you know,
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when the fans are barely showing up to the games
at the end of the season, and they're booing the
team for winning yesterday because they blew the number one pick.
It would have been a really bad move for Kraft,
I think for just the business of the Patriots to
bring Mayo back. And I think he could see all
the season ticket holders starting to cancel their deposits and
things like that. So it was it was a move
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that Craft had to make just to save face. And
I do give him some credit for being, you know,
willing to take a little egg in the situation and
be willing to.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Move on Mike Vrabel. How where is he stacked in
the candidate's list.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I mean, I definitely think he's at the top. I
don't think it's a foregone conclusion. The Patriots, it does seem,
are actually going to go through a full process this time.
They've already put in a request to interview Ben Johnson.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to look at
like Brian Flores, maybe a guy like Liam Cohen from
the Buccaneers, who has a lot of Massachusetts and Rhode
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Island ties. So it sounds like they're going to do
a full search. But Rabel, I mean I was sold
last year that Rabel would be their home run higher,
and you know that's a higher to me. That makes
I mean so much sense. He's got obviously a former
Patriot here from the glory days, you know, won three
Super Bowl Championships, has the gravitas of being a you know,
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accomplished coach, former Coach of the Year. Came into New
England with the Tennessee Titans and beat Tom Brady and
the Patriots in the playoffs, tom Brady's last game here
in New England. And then you know, Brabel is a
member of the team's Hall of Fame. Last year, when
he was still the coach of the Titans, he came
to New England on the Titans bye week and sat
with owner Robert Kraft in his box during the Patriots
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his Patriots Hall of Fame induction. So I think it's
a very it's an obvious connection. I think Brabel wants
to come here, work for a stable owner and a
good franchise with the Patriots. I think the Patriots obviously
like Brabel, but they're going to go through a process
first and see if they get wowed by anyone else
out there.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What's the likelihood of Tyreek Hill playing with the Dolphins
next year?
Speaker 9 (19:49):
I will say this that I think Tyreek Hill's Twitter
bio it says something like he likes to just like
start trouble and then walk away. So he does do
this a lot where he just kind of drops a
bomb and then enjoys watching the aftermat that said, I
do think there are some big changes coming to the
Dolphins this offseason. I've heard that Jalen Wattle wasn't thrilled
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with being second banana on the team, So I think
one of those two receivers is probably not going to
be with the Dolphins next year. And if for them,
I would choose the younger Jalen Wattle over you know,
Tyreek Hill, who has a lot more miles on him
at this point. And I just don't know how reliable
Tyreek Hill is. And boy, you know the Dolphins, they
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made him a team captain, and I'm not surprised to
see that team completely fall apart this year and especially
come up small in a big game on Sunday when
they needed to win. So yeah, it seems like big
changes are coming. They're not changing the coaching staff for
the front office. The owner down there has decided to
keep Mike McDaniel and the general manager, So they're going
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to have to make some changes. It's going to come
to the roster, and definitely, I think Tyreek looks like
he's probably on his way out.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
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forty nineers.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
What are they gonna do with rock forty?
Speaker 9 (21:08):
I think they have to bring him back. You know,
this is a team Kyle Shanahan assuming he's back, and
I think he will. I don't think the Niners are
gonna do anything crazy like trade him or whatever this offseason.
But Kyle Shanahan has been on that quarterback carousel so
many times in his tenure with the Niners, and it
has really, you know, it has cost them, you know,
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like a lot of a lot of seasons, a lot
of games where if they just had a little bit
better quarterback play, Kyle Shanahan would probably have a ring
or two. And now they've found a guy in Brock
Pergy who can really run their system. And you know,
I know he's not perfect, and I think this year
proved that when there are some injuries, he's not a
guy that's necessarily going to overcome and elevate the rest
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of the franchise. He does kind of need pieces to
be in place to be really successful. But we've seen
him do a really nice job of running that offense.
I think he's only improving, you know now that he's
in year three, going into year four of that offense,
and I just he can't keep riding that carousel. If
you're the forty nine ers, it's a lot of money
for brock Party, but you got to do it, and
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you just, you know, you have to go into the
draft now and find your next wave of playmakers and
find ways to save money that way. But I think
you've got to bring back brock Party and you just
got to pay him the going rate. It's just the
cost of doing business in today's NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Ste got I'm shore here on Fox Sports Trader. That's
the voice of Ben Vollen. He covers the entire league
for the Boston Globe. Okay, there's some other jobs obviously open.
Jacksonville's interesting, New Orleans is interesting. What do you think
the best open job is?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
Not to sound like a Homer, but I do think
it's the Patriots because I think they've got a young
quarterback in place, a pretty stable ownership with the Crafts,
and a team that knows what it's like to experience success.
And they've got the most cap space in the NFL
going into next offseason. So as bad as this season
was for the Patriots, it should be an exciting offseason
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where they have a lot of money to spend. They
have a top five pick. You know, New Orleans, you're
not quite sure who your quarterback is going to be. Jacksonville,
you know, you're you're going to have to work with
Trent Balky, the GM who they're keeping there, So that
is going to affect their candidates. Plus, you know, Trent,
Trevor Lawrence might be a little bit of a coach killer.
He's now gone through two head coaches in four years,
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and you know you're going to be saddled with a
fifty five million dollar quarterback who hasn't proven a whole
lot yet in the NFL. So I just you know,
I don't see the Jaguars as being as attractive as
the Patriots, just because you know what, Trevor Lawrence I
think still has a lot to prove, and I don't know,
you know, coaches with options, I don't know, are going
to want to saddle themselves with such an expensive quarterback
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who did not do well for Doug Peterson the last
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Vox Sports. Sure, that's the
voice of Ben ullin Boston. Globe covers the entire National
Football League. All right, let's get ready for the playoffs.
Who do you have the most confidence in the AFC Chiefs?
Speaker 9 (24:05):
I mean, how do you not have the most confidence
in the Chiefs right now? And I mean I'm sick
of them. I really I'm hoping for a Super Bowl
that features a team like the Bills or the Ravens,
just to get something a little different. But you Andy Reid,
to get that team to fifteen to one before last week,
where their offense wasn't playing that well throughout the season,
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It's just a phenomenal accomplishment. Now the Chiefs have the
bye week, they have home field advantage. I mean, Josh
Allen and the Bills fans have to I don't know
about Josh Allen, but Bills fans have to be feeling
so nervous about having to maybe play Lamar in the
second round and then having to go to Kansas City
for the AFC Championship game. On paper, the Chiefs don't
look like the best team, but with that defense as
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well as Steve Spagnolo has been playing. When you have
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Andy Reid, I mean, how do
you not pick the Chiefs at this point? So I'm
riding them until they prove otherwise.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, what about the NFC. We've seen the Lions, big
win yesterday against the Vikings, but still banged up on
defense a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Who do you have the most faith in?
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yeah, the Lions again, and that faith had been tested
in December when they had that what was it the
loss of the Bills, like forty eight to forty two,
and it's like, wow, their defense is really starting to
get decimated by injuries and exposed a little bit. But
they give them a lot of credit. Dan Campbell and
Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator. They've they've short things up.
It was a tremendous performance last night against the Vikings,
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a very efficient offensive team usually like those struggles in
the red zone. That was I was eye opening defense
from the Lions, and it seems like they've worked through
their troubles while still continuing to win games. And just
like the Chiefs now the Lions have locked up the
by the home field advantage, and that's that seems to
be a really significant advantage for the Lions at Ford Field.
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I mean that place is just so electric now for
home games. Unconcern is that, you know, they play in
a dome where the conditions are always really good, and
their defense, you know that both their losses this year
have come at home, and their defense can maybe get
exposed in good conditions under a dome, whereas the Lions
are undefeated on the road this year, and maybe a
weather game might be a little bit better for them
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because their defense could maybe play better. But the Lions
are rolling right now. Maybe the Eagles could, you know,
I definitely, you know, the Eagles will give them a game.
But the Lions look really good for the super Bowl
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
No question that, no question they look good for the
Super Bowl. I do wonder, though, Viking second, if they
get another shot at him, third shot at him after
Sam Donald doesn't play well. You know they've been to
that building before. I'm fascinated by by by what what
that looks like. Okay, Aaron Rodgers as he played his
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last game.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
I tend to think so, you know, it's funny you
heard Joe name it come out saying, boy, you know,
Aaron Rodgers looked pretty good yesterday, and he still looks
like he had some good football left. I just don't
know how many teams are gonna want up to want
to sign up for the Aaron Rodgers experience, because when
you bring in Aaron Rodgers, he can't he can't just
be one of the guys. It's got to be you know,
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it's his team. He's a big persona and given everything that,
you know, he didn't play all that great this year,
he's a year older next year. It really didn't work
out in New York. I just have a hard time
seeing a team wanting to, you know, sign up for
that instead of going young at quarterback or you know,
finding a different option. So I tend to think that
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Rogers has thrown his last pass. I guess the one
the one scenario I could see is if the Jets
aren't able to draft a quarterback, you know, this year
high in the first round, the new coach comes in says,
you know what, Aaron Rodgers is probably still our best options.
Let's do it one more time. But I think Rodgers
probably feels it. I think everyone kind of feels it
yesterday was probably his last NFL game, and good for
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him for throwing the four touchdowns and getting over five
hundred for his career. And good for him for I
think hitting the right notes the last week where he
said he's just been filled with a lot of gratitude
that these have been the best two best years of
his life. So I give Rogers a lot of credit
for handling these last couple of weeks the right way.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I don't buy it for one second it's the
two best years of his life. But other than that,
I'm with you and everything else. Hey, Ben, great stuff
is always. Happy New Year to you. Thanks for joining us, all.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Right, thanks a lot, Doug.
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Speaker 3 (29:00):
Let's get to the press, the press. Okay there, Dan Byer.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Tug, let's start out with some spice. Here is.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
The Chicago Bears have reportedly asked the Dallas Cowboys for
permission to speak with their head coach Mike McCarthy about
the bears head coaching vacancy. McCarthy's contract to the Cowboys.
We'll wrap up on January fourteenth, that's next week. Cowboys
have yet to respond, according to ESPN about the request
by the Chicago Bears. But the Bears may be putting
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a squeeze on Dallas and what they're going to do
with their head coach.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Fascinating. What do we think the Bears?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
The Bear's got to hire somebody offensive minded, don't they
have to hire?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yes, But I will give you a list of names
that the Bears want to talk about or want to
talk to people with, or Mike Kafka the Giants, that's
what they want to talk to. Brian Flores of the Vikings,
Arthur Smith of the Steelers, Todd Monkin of the Ravens.
I actually think Aaron Glenn maybe getting an interview at
Glenn's going to meet with the New Orleans Saints. But
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it's the fact that they're speaking with everybody, but none
of those guys are currently head coaches of an NFL
team with a week to go on their contract, So
it does the Cowboys could say you can't speak with him,
which then I then would we would think that McCarthy
is getting a contract extension, or if they would allow
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him to speak, then it doesn't seem like there is
that much of a commitment to McCarthy. So it just
seems like the Bears have just put the Cowboys first
up in the batting order. All right, let's make a
decision now, because they've got plenty of other guys they
could talk to, and if McCarthy doesn't return, they could
talk to him next week if they wanted to. The
likelihood of the Bears finding a coach this week is
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actually probably pretty slim. But yeah, I just find it
funny that they're kind of putting the Cowboys putting the
screws to it is.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean, but most signs point him being back with
the Cowboys anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But we'll see.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Anybody, you guys, anybody else, Jason, you think this is
maybe he wasn't even listening.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
He wasn't listening to He told me he didn't like you.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
That would not surprise me, you know, in my ways.
Doug Peterson done after three seasons in Jacksonville, including a
four and thirteen mark in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, the Doug Peterson journey has been a weird one,
hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It was kind of a different hire.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
But we thought the hire was to save Trevor Lawrence,
and Trevor Lawrence didn't improve yet Trevor Lawrence got a
new contract.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Team still bad.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Shad Khan today said that they were the most predictable
team in the league and that is a damning indictment
on your head coach, and for what they do on
offense that everybody in the league would know about it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
See, it is the only thing. I the only again.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And this is where you know coaching perspective, does I
think matter? You can only run with guys, know you know?
So do you have guys that can't process changes on
the fly?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson expected to be the team starter
entering twenty twenty five, according to The Athletic.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Weird Right, I mean expected to be will they draft
into the quarterback? This is year three injured, year one injured,
half a year two in not crazy productive, plus called
out for his work ethic. I mean obviously a make
or break here, but Shane Steiken must have had to
go in and say, like, I can fix him.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
We'll see Browns GM Andrew Berry said that quarterback Deshaun
Watson had a setback in his recovery from a torn achilles.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Berry said the team is still gathering.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Information and couldn't decipher if Watson would miss any of
the twenty twenty five campaign as they were still gathering
information about the setback.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I don't think you'd hear a aggravation of an
injury or a set back unless it was bad.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
And if it's an achilles, what does that mean? Now?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Look, one of the things when you're coming back from
an achilles is that you know other things can go wrong.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
But I know this.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I know the achilles is like the ACL and when
you get the graph done, I don't know if you
guys know this, the strongest your achilles or your ACL
is ever going to be is right there after the surgery,
because you literally have a graph there's no tearing it.
But then and this kind of lines out timeline wise,
when you get to like two to four months out,
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the ligament or the ten that you had replaced dies
and then regenerates, and then the graph kind of continue
to stakehold with it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But that's when it's actually its weakest. Again.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know, I'm only guessing, but it feels like
it's during that period of time that there may be
a partial tear of the same injury, and that is
not a good thing.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
To give props to. Rich Rebar. I believe that's how
you pronounce it. I apologize. Rich at lord Reeves is
his Twitter handle does work as an analyst for Sharp
Football and others. Broke down a bunch of quarterbacking stuff
and other stats from the NFL season. Three hundred and
eighty seven interceptions thrown this NFL season. That was the
(34:22):
fewest since nineteen eighty two. That was a strike shortened
season as well, but just three hundred and eighty seven
interceptions thrown in the NFL this season. Caleb Williams, by.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
The way, question why do you think that is?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Dan? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
I would like to think we've seen a little bit
more running of the football, but I don't think that's
necessarily the case, considering how wide of a gap Saquon
Barkley and Derrick Henry had over everybody else that was
running the football that was, I mean those two and
everyone else.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
If it's young quarterbacks taking sacks, yeah, I would love
to have some sort of reason, but.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I I think it's I think teams running the football more.
Could be I think Thames run the football the more.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Caleb Williams said the highest rate of inaccurate throws into
the end zone forty five point two percent. The NFL
average was twenty three point seven percent. And how about
this one for Brock Purty, who you were talking about
earlier with with TJ and Brock Perties throws into the
end zone that resulted in a TV this season just
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thirty one point four percent of those last year fifty
seven point one percent. In twenty twenty two it was
sixty six point seven percent, so more than a fifty
percent drop and his throws that went into the end
zone that actually resulted in touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Interesting, it's great stat.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of great numbers.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I retweeted the thread because it's just stat after stat
after stat, and a lot of them revealing for the
NFL season. Finally, Doug, Tennessee remain the number one team
in the AP Top twenty five. Pole is the nation's
only unbeaten team, but still not a unanimous number one,
receiving forty five out of a possible sixty first place votes.
Auburn is second, Iowa State third, Duke and Alabama round
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out the top five. And that is the press.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
They get out there in press. That was the press.
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's the way tire buying should be.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Dan Byer's alongside Jason Stewart's alongside we got a cast
of a bunch of a bunch. You know what we
do is we like to reflect. And last week was
a big reflection week, right, New Years and et cetera. Well,
now we reflect on the weekend and so so every Monday.
And by the way, Ben Bollen's going to join us
(01:03):
about midway through the hour. Ben covers the league for
the Boston Globe, but he's been the beat reporter for
the Patriots. So why Girodmeyo got fired? I think he'll
know and does it? Is it directly correlating with the
fact that Brabel wants the job?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is that the plan? Well we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
But every Monday we kind of take a breath, look
back at the weekend and decide what we love what
we hated from the weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We call it love and hate.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
God? I love you?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Needles play?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Is okay?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
The love segment feels like it feels like a Dan
Byer thing right. Dan's got a lot of love in
his heart, loves sports, loves his family, loves his job.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Danny, what'd you love from the weekend? Dog?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
This one may be hidden in the weeds a little bit,
but there's there's just something There's I could go with
the Seahawks great ten win season, which ten end up
in a playoff berth, which may just as well be
my hate. But there's something that happens throughout the holiday
season and really gets ramped up around this time, and
(02:16):
especially because of the college football playoff that ends up
being on ESPN, Doug, it's been the rolling outs of
the Masters promos. Now, the first one actually had happened
in late mid to late December where we get the
video of the drive down Magnolia Lane and the Great
(02:36):
Green Lush Fairways that is Augusta National. But it really
does get amped up here around the New year and
in this final part of the season, because it's like
the networks, CBS and ESPN specifically, are just trying to
tell you it's twenty twenty five, you know what I mean,
Like this is we are in the new year. Let's
look ahead. And it had been the unveiling of the
(02:58):
Masters promos and commercials that they have to hype the
event coming up in April. I know, parts of the
Midwest are, you know, kit with this horrible storm of
snow and ice and hopefully they can be safe, but
it gives you that little bit of spring, that hope
of spring.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
The commercials that I'm talking about, you know, the ads
just it's not it's not anything you know, out of
the ordinary, but everything is extraordinary when it comes comes
to the Masters so it's just the unleashing of the
Masters promos that I just felt that I saw a
lot more over this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
All right, Jill, let's go to Ryan Smith.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Ryan, thanks for the response. Guys, nobody else saw. Thank you.
Move it on. Jim Nantz is no longer doing it
correct or No, he's not four.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
No, he's not doing the Final Four. He's doing the.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yes, which I think is the reason why he's not
doing the Final Four because he can spend more time
doing because it's that same week.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yes, that's just that's what he loves.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I mean, he loves he he's been synonymous with the
Final Four, but Iron Egle deserves a shot. But the
Masters his like the Masters, I have no, I just
didn't have anything to talk to it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I wasn't trying to top Rad's what you loved.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
I remember.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
I remember once Jim Natz came on a show that
I used to be a part of and he came
on right in the pocket there between the Final Four
and The Masters, and my host at the time gave
him credit for making himself available during a busy time,
like you got balls for coming on the radio show,
And I'm thinking, yeah, he's got balls. He went from
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a very very heavily produced Final four where he stayed
at the best hotels, took a private jet to Augusta,
where he was very heavily produced on the other end.
So yeah, it took a lot of balls for him
to create ten minutes for radio.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
But he was nice, wasn't he? Great guy?
Speaker 7 (04:58):
I don't think there's a broadcaster more synonymous with an event, right, Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
No, you know that, you know, you know Jim Nance's
ultimate gift is right he can come and go through
a room of people, go speak at room people three
four hundred people and get introduced to them, and then
come back around to those people at the bar hours later,
remembers everybody's name, what they do.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
That's a gift. That's a superpower. Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It is. Ryan Smith.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
What do you got, Robert Kraft? What's up, Bobby?
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Remember when he said he found Bill Belichick's successor and
like he did lots of research and he was ready
for this and it was gonna be great, and uh yeah,
may only lasted what one season? Matter of fact, he
got fired what an hour after the game? No exit interview,
(05:54):
no nothing. He didn't wait till the next day, and
I just pictured Bill Belichick in a dark room just
laughing his ass off, and that just made me love life.
I couldn't stop laughing at that image in my head.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Jason Stewart, So I like it.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
When the Chargers beat the Raiders. The Raiders have always
been the rival, and it's always good to beat the Raiders,
no matter how piss poor they are as a team.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Watch your mouth.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And for the first quarter or so yesterday, the Raiders
are really trying hard, and it was a game, but
the Chargers did something that they never do, and they
put their act together and they won going away. You know,
Charger teams have never done that. Jim Harbaugh. Charger teams
do put it away. And now we're going to Houston
(06:48):
and we all have to have an honest conversation about CJ.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Stroud.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Guys, since the second tank Dell went down and we
saw some gen Z quarterback crying on national.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
TV, dude stopped.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
He has not has not put a good quarter together.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
No he was. He hasn't been great all year. Do
you see what happened? To think that's ne Bro.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
No, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Like gen Z, like come on, man, no, no stop.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Gen Z is Caleb Williams and C. J. Stroud crying
on the sidewines. We expect more from our field general.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
You stop your charges.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
You gotta stop.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
I expect more from my field general, more than you.
I don't think Patton was crying when he lost troops.
You can't.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
It's the same analogy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
No no, no, no, God no no. I look, my
favorite part is what brought me pure joy this weekend
was you know what's happened to Quinton Johnson. Quinton Johnson
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had thirteen catches on fourteen targets.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Quentin Johnson had the.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Reputation come out of TCU as being stonehands from necessary roughness.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
That's a reference.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think buyer gets that reference because it feels like
a movie of the few that Byer has seen necessary
rough That was Quinton Johnson all of a sudden two years.
Some of it's just time and reps. Everybody bailed, myself
included on Quinton Johnson and the GM of the Raiders,
Tom Teluska. When he drafted, I was like, dude, quin
(08:41):
Johnson can't catch. He's like, actually, his catch rate is
way higher than a.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Lot of the guys.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Taken above him, and I was like, and then last
year he couldn't catch, And you know what, He's had
a good year this year, had a great game on
Sunday against the Raiders. Of all the tricks that Harball
has pulled, making Quinton Johnson able to catch.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
A football is the greatest. I was so happy to
see that for Quentin Johnson.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
It's great to see.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I agree, and they get they get those Texans coming
up in the wild card round.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Those Chargers.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Man, you got to stop with a gen Z like
the dude's leg almost fell off and it's his boy,
and Tank Johnson's been through a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I don't That's not a gen Z thing. He's just
a human being.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Have we have we seen a quarterback crying on the sidewines?
Until then, we've seen players cry on the side of
the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Quarterbacks, man, I don't know. It was pretty nasty and
anything was pretty nasty, bro. And again, I have a
I'm the guy who watches those injuries over I've seen
the Tank. I've seen Tank's injury fifteen times because I
like that stuff on repeat. But when it's your boy
and you see it in person, and you think, oh
my God, he may never play again.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Like that's what goes through your head. Let's get to
what we hated from the weekend. If you couldn't, all
of them are love segment.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Our hater is also our producer, Jason Stewart, What's day
from the Weekend.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
I need to rope Dan Byron on this conversation because
if if I'm wrong about this, you need to let
me know down.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
So when the.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Oilers wear their throwbacks, sorry, the Tartans were the throwbacks,
which is the Houston Oilers against the Texans. To me,
it strikes me of one of two things. They really
love their throwbacks and they want to pay tribute to
the former Houston the city of Houston, or it's like
(10:35):
a world class troll that they're saying, we left your
city and we're gonna wear your jerseys against your newer team.
What's the background there and is it not in bad
taste for them to do that against the Texans.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, it's it's absolutely one planned and done to rub
it in their face. The Oilers wanted a new state.
The Astronome was a dump, didn't feel they got the support,
so they left for Tennessee. And if you remember, actually
played two seasons as the Tennessee Oilers, in one in Memphis.
(11:12):
They played the next season in at Vanderbilt Stadium. I
attended a game Jaguars oiler Tennessee Oilers nineteen ninety eight,
late September of nineteen ninety eight to be specific, and
it was so there is an oiler connection, but just
very very thinly veiled if you will, to Tennessee. But yeah, absolutely,
(11:33):
it is to troll the Texans. It is patrol the
fans of Houston. That is exactly what it is all about.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Those uniforms are so awesome.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Because it's the same ownership family.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's the Adams family, but Adams has passed along, but
it stayed within the family.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
So that is why.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Who looked better the Titans or the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Well, the Broncos because they won. That's like when you're
that you are when you're the Titans wearing those.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You just did your uniform breakdown which ones you like better?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
The Broncos just looked really good yesterday with the field
and the whole deal. So I would put Denver as
much as I love the Baby Blues, and I'll get
those uniforms. Look, maybe it's something too with the fake
field turf in Tennessee. Not quite sure their end zones
were painted in as well, but Denver seem to pop more.
I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give the edge to Denver.
(12:32):
And I'll also say this with Denver, like when they
wear those uniforms, they look right correct, like they're like,
You're like, Okay, this is the Broncos.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Yet we've had thirty years of that.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Other pattern and design and Super Bowls won by the Broncos,
three of them in that pattern and design. Yet when
they wear these, they're just like, Yep, that's the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
At least that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I agree, I agree, okay, Dan, would you hate from
the weekend?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well, I hate that they are fifteen to ten win
teams in the NFL and only one, the only one
that didn't make the playoffs were the Seattle Seahawks, and
that's just oh man, what can you do. Somebody's got
to be left out, and unfortunately it is my favorite team.
So a ten win season. If you would have told
me at the beginning of the year. Seahawks, by the way,
fired offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb today, if you would have
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told me at the beginning of the year that this
team is going to be a ten win team. I
would have taken it on the spot and said yes,
I would have assumed that there'd be a wild card,
maybe a chance at a division. In the end, they
tie the Rams for the best record in the division,
with the Rams win the division because of the tie breaker.
But yeah, it stinks when there's every team in the
(13:46):
playoff picture as double digit wins and the one that
is left out of the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'll tell you what I hated is that the Miami
Heat are going to listen to trade offers for Jimmy Butler.
And I hate it only because you know, Jimmy Butler
had the press conference with Jason Stewart called what'd you
call it?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You said it pathetic?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Oh, I thought it was pretty pathetic.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, yeah, I thought pathetic was a little strong. But
then I'm equally pathetic as the Miami Heat suspending him
for seven games. The seven games and January fifteenth. January
fifteenth is when all these players had signed deals this
past year.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Can then be traded.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
They even went out on Twitter and said that now
they're going to listen to deals like just let him rot.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Just let him rot.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Jimmy Butler is a diva, and you know he went
to the NBA Finals with you. If he doesn't like it,
you don't have to acquiesce and trade him.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Let him rot. That'd be my thing. I hate that, Ryan.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
Well, I hate the fact that the only AFC West
team not to get into the playoffs were my Raiders.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
That hurts.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
What hurts even more than that is the Raiders kept
on shooting themselves themselves in the foot, and now they
have the sixth pick overall. I don't know why they
kept on winning, and now I'm realizing that they're probably
not gonna be able to get a good quarterback because
they kept winning these these stupid games they had no
business in winning.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
So yeah, that's what I hate.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
All right?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Any other hate hatred? You guys want to get out
from the weekend. Jason, I know you have more things
than you hate.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I mean, I've got a lot of things I hate,
but I love staying on the clock more than I
love voicing what I hate.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I know you vented. I just want to give you
a chance to make sure you vented. You know you
don't want to It's like any relationship, right, you don't
want to keep in that stuff in and that is
love and hate.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
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Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Hope you had a great weekend. Not a great weekend
for the Patriots. They win the game, but lose the
number one pick in the upcoming NFL draft, and then
they summarily fired their head coach to Rod Mayo. Ben
Bolan joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. We're
(16:16):
live at the Tyreck dot com studios. For people don't know,
Ben has covered the Patriots for years. He's the national
NFL writer for Reporter and insider covering the National Football
League for the Boston Globe. What is your reaction to
Rod Mayo only get in one year.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
With the Patriots.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
I'm not surprised to see him get fired because I
think it was pretty clear throughout the year that Trod
Mayo was probably in over his head and wasn't ready
for the job, and that was kind of what everyone
was saying when he got the job. He didn't have
really nearly as much as experience as all the other
coaching candidates out there. The Patriots didn't really surround his
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staff with much experience, and the roster will looked bad.
So everyone kind of knew that the Patriots were going
to be in for a long year. I guess where
I am surprised is that Robert Kraft was willing to
rip off the band aid and make the move, even
though it made him look pretty bad. You know, Robert
Craft made such a big deal last year about Girod
Mayo's our hand picked guy. We identified him years ago
(17:20):
to be Bill Belichick's successor, and we think he's going
to be great, and I trust my instincts. And they
didn't go through an interview process, they didn't talk to
any outside people, and they just elevated this very inexperienced coach.
And I give Robert Kraft, you know, some credit for
at least being willing to make the move, even though
it doesn't make him look good right now. But you know,
(17:40):
when the fans are barely showing up to the games
at the end of the season, and they're booing the
team for winning yesterday because they blew the number one pick.
It would have been a really bad move for Kraft,
I think for just the business of the Patriots to
bring Mayo back. And I think he could see all
the season ticket holders starting to cancel their deposits and
things like that. So it was it was a move
(18:02):
that Craft had to make just to save face. And
I do give him some credit for being, you know,
willing to take a little egg in the situation and
be willing to.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Move on Mike Vrabel. How where is he stacked in
the candidate's list.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I mean, I definitely think he's at the top. I
don't think it's a foregone conclusion. The Patriots, it does seem,
are actually going to go through a full process this time.
They've already put in a request to interview Ben Johnson.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to look at
like Brian Flores, maybe a guy like Liam Cohen from
the Buccaneers, who has a lot of Massachusetts and Rhode
(18:39):
Island ties. So it sounds like they're going to do
a full search. But Rabel, I mean I was sold
last year that Rabel would be their home run higher,
and you know that's a higher to me. That makes
I mean so much sense. He's got obviously a former
Patriot here from the glory days, you know, won three
Super Bowl Championships, has the gravitas of being a you know,
(19:00):
accomplished coach, former Coach of the Year. Came into New
England with the Tennessee Titans and beat Tom Brady and
the Patriots in the playoffs, tom Brady's last game here
in New England. And then you know, Brabel is a
member of the team's Hall of Fame. Last year, when
he was still the coach of the Titans, he came
to New England on the Titans bye week and sat
with owner Robert Kraft in his box during the Patriots
(19:23):
his Patriots Hall of Fame induction. So I think it's
a very it's an obvious connection. I think Brabel wants
to come here, work for a stable owner and a
good franchise with the Patriots. I think the Patriots obviously
like Brabel, but they're going to go through a process
first and see if they get wowed by anyone else
out there.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What's the likelihood of Tyreek Hill playing with the Dolphins
next year?
Speaker 9 (19:49):
I will say this that I think Tyreek Hill's Twitter
bio it says something like he likes to just like
start trouble and then walk away. So he does do
this a lot where he just kind of drops a
bomb and then enjoys watching the aftermat that said, I
do think there are some big changes coming to the
Dolphins this offseason. I've heard that Jalen Wattle wasn't thrilled
(20:12):
with being second banana on the team, So I think
one of those two receivers is probably not going to
be with the Dolphins next year. And if for them,
I would choose the younger Jalen Wattle over you know,
Tyreek Hill, who has a lot more miles on him
at this point. And I just don't know how reliable
Tyreek Hill is. And boy, you know the Dolphins, they
(20:33):
made him a team captain, and I'm not surprised to
see that team completely fall apart this year and especially
come up small in a big game on Sunday when
they needed to win. So yeah, it seems like big
changes are coming. They're not changing the coaching staff for
the front office. The owner down there has decided to
keep Mike McDaniel and the general manager, So they're going
(20:55):
to have to make some changes. It's going to come
to the roster, and definitely, I think Tyreek looks like
he's probably on his way out.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
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forty nineers.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
What are they gonna do with rock forty?
Speaker 9 (21:08):
I think they have to bring him back. You know,
this is a team Kyle Shanahan assuming he's back, and
I think he will. I don't think the Niners are
gonna do anything crazy like trade him or whatever this offseason.
But Kyle Shanahan has been on that quarterback carousel so
many times in his tenure with the Niners, and it
has really, you know, it has cost them, you know,
(21:28):
like a lot of a lot of seasons, a lot
of games where if they just had a little bit
better quarterback play, Kyle Shanahan would probably have a ring
or two. And now they've found a guy in Brock
Pergy who can really run their system. And you know,
I know he's not perfect, and I think this year
proved that when there are some injuries, he's not a
guy that's necessarily going to overcome and elevate the rest
(21:50):
of the franchise. He does kind of need pieces to
be in place to be really successful. But we've seen
him do a really nice job of running that offense.
I think he's only improving, you know now that he's
in year three, going into year four of that offense,
and I just he can't keep riding that carousel. If
you're the forty nine ers, it's a lot of money
for brock Party, but you got to do it, and
(22:11):
you just, you know, you have to go into the
draft now and find your next wave of playmakers and
find ways to save money that way. But I think
you've got to bring back brock Party and you just
got to pay him the going rate. It's just the
cost of doing business in today's NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Ste got I'm shore here on Fox Sports Trader. That's
the voice of Ben Vollen. He covers the entire league
for the Boston Globe. Okay, there's some other jobs obviously open.
Jacksonville's interesting, New Orleans is interesting. What do you think
the best open job is?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
Not to sound like a Homer, but I do think
it's the Patriots because I think they've got a young
quarterback in place, a pretty stable ownership with the Crafts,
and a team that knows what it's like to experience success.
And they've got the most cap space in the NFL
going into next offseason. So as bad as this season
was for the Patriots, it should be an exciting offseason
(23:05):
where they have a lot of money to spend. They
have a top five pick. You know, New Orleans, you're
not quite sure who your quarterback is going to be. Jacksonville,
you know, you're you're going to have to work with
Trent Balky, the GM who they're keeping there, So that
is going to affect their candidates. Plus, you know, Trent,
Trevor Lawrence might be a little bit of a coach killer.
He's now gone through two head coaches in four years,
(23:26):
and you know you're going to be saddled with a
fifty five million dollar quarterback who hasn't proven a whole
lot yet in the NFL. So I just you know,
I don't see the Jaguars as being as attractive as
the Patriots, just because you know what, Trevor Lawrence I
think still has a lot to prove, and I don't know,
you know, coaches with options, I don't know, are going
to want to saddle themselves with such an expensive quarterback
(23:47):
who did not do well for Doug Peterson the last
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Vox Sports. Sure, that's the
voice of Ben ullin Boston. Globe covers the entire National
Football League. All right, let's get ready for the playoffs.
Who do you have the most confidence in the AFC Chiefs?
Speaker 9 (24:05):
I mean, how do you not have the most confidence
in the Chiefs right now? And I mean I'm sick
of them. I really I'm hoping for a Super Bowl
that features a team like the Bills or the Ravens,
just to get something a little different. But you Andy Reid,
to get that team to fifteen to one before last week,
where their offense wasn't playing that well throughout the season,
(24:25):
It's just a phenomenal accomplishment. Now the Chiefs have the
bye week, they have home field advantage. I mean, Josh
Allen and the Bills fans have to I don't know
about Josh Allen, but Bills fans have to be feeling
so nervous about having to maybe play Lamar in the
second round and then having to go to Kansas City
for the AFC Championship game. On paper, the Chiefs don't
look like the best team, but with that defense as
(24:48):
well as Steve Spagnolo has been playing. When you have
Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Andy Reid, I mean, how do
you not pick the Chiefs at this point? So I'm
riding them until they prove otherwise.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay, what about the NFC. We've seen the Lions, big
win yesterday against the Vikings, but still banged up on
defense a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Who do you have the most faith in?
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yeah, the Lions again, and that faith had been tested
in December when they had that what was it the
loss of the Bills, like forty eight to forty two,
and it's like, wow, their defense is really starting to
get decimated by injuries and exposed a little bit. But
they give them a lot of credit. Dan Campbell and
Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator. They've they've short things up.
It was a tremendous performance last night against the Vikings,
(25:34):
a very efficient offensive team usually like those struggles in
the red zone. That was I was eye opening defense
from the Lions, and it seems like they've worked through
their troubles while still continuing to win games. And just
like the Chiefs now the Lions have locked up the
by the home field advantage, and that's that seems to
be a really significant advantage for the Lions at Ford Field.
(25:56):
I mean that place is just so electric now for
home games. Unconcern is that, you know, they play in
a dome where the conditions are always really good, and
their defense, you know that both their losses this year
have come at home, and their defense can maybe get
exposed in good conditions under a dome, whereas the Lions
are undefeated on the road this year, and maybe a
weather game might be a little bit better for them
(26:18):
because their defense could maybe play better. But the Lions
are rolling right now. Maybe the Eagles could, you know,
I definitely, you know, the Eagles will give them a game.
But the Lions look really good for the super Bowl
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
No question that, no question they look good for the
Super Bowl. I do wonder, though, Viking second, if they
get another shot at him, third shot at him after
Sam Donald doesn't play well. You know they've been to
that building before. I'm fascinated by by by what what
that looks like. Okay, Aaron Rodgers as he played his
(26:53):
last game.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
I tend to think so, you know, it's funny you
heard Joe name it come out saying, boy, you know,
Aaron Rodgers looked pretty good yesterday, and he still looks
like he had some good football left. I just don't
know how many teams are gonna want up to want
to sign up for the Aaron Rodgers experience, because when
you bring in Aaron Rodgers, he can't he can't just
be one of the guys. It's got to be you know,
(27:16):
it's his team. He's a big persona and given everything that,
you know, he didn't play all that great this year,
he's a year older next year. It really didn't work
out in New York. I just have a hard time
seeing a team wanting to, you know, sign up for
that instead of going young at quarterback or you know,
finding a different option. So I tend to think that
(27:39):
Rogers has thrown his last pass. I guess the one
the one scenario I could see is if the Jets
aren't able to draft a quarterback, you know, this year
high in the first round, the new coach comes in says,
you know what, Aaron Rodgers is probably still our best options.
Let's do it one more time. But I think Rodgers
probably feels it. I think everyone kind of feels it
yesterday was probably his last NFL game, and good for
(28:01):
him for throwing the four touchdowns and getting over five
hundred for his career. And good for him for I
think hitting the right notes the last week where he
said he's just been filled with a lot of gratitude
that these have been the best two best years of
his life. So I give Rogers a lot of credit
for handling these last couple of weeks the right way.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I don't buy it for one second it's the
two best years of his life. But other than that,
I'm with you and everything else. Hey, Ben, great stuff
is always. Happy New Year to you. Thanks for joining us, all.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Right, thanks a lot, Doug.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
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Speaker 3 (29:00):
Let's get to the press, the press. Okay there, Dan Byer.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Tug, let's start out with some spice. Here is.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
The Chicago Bears have reportedly asked the Dallas Cowboys for
permission to speak with their head coach Mike McCarthy about
the bears head coaching vacancy. McCarthy's contract to the Cowboys.
We'll wrap up on January fourteenth, that's next week. Cowboys
have yet to respond, according to ESPN about the request
by the Chicago Bears. But the Bears may be putting
(29:35):
a squeeze on Dallas and what they're going to do
with their head coach.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Fascinating. What do we think the Bears?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
The Bear's got to hire somebody offensive minded, don't they
have to hire?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yes, But I will give you a list of names
that the Bears want to talk about or want to
talk to people with, or Mike Kafka the Giants, that's
what they want to talk to. Brian Flores of the Vikings,
Arthur Smith of the Steelers, Todd Monkin of the Ravens.
I actually think Aaron Glenn maybe getting an interview at
Glenn's going to meet with the New Orleans Saints. But
(30:09):
it's the fact that they're speaking with everybody, but none
of those guys are currently head coaches of an NFL
team with a week to go on their contract, So
it does the Cowboys could say you can't speak with him,
which then I then would we would think that McCarthy
is getting a contract extension, or if they would allow
(30:30):
him to speak, then it doesn't seem like there is
that much of a commitment to McCarthy. So it just
seems like the Bears have just put the Cowboys first
up in the batting order. All right, let's make a
decision now, because they've got plenty of other guys they
could talk to, and if McCarthy doesn't return, they could
talk to him next week if they wanted to. The
likelihood of the Bears finding a coach this week is
(30:52):
actually probably pretty slim. But yeah, I just find it
funny that they're kind of putting the Cowboys putting the
screws to it is.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean, but most signs point him being back with
the Cowboys anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But we'll see.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Anybody, you guys, anybody else, Jason, you think this is
maybe he wasn't even listening.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
He wasn't listening to He told me he didn't like you.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
That would not surprise me, you know, in my ways.
Doug Peterson done after three seasons in Jacksonville, including a
four and thirteen mark in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, the Doug Peterson journey has been a weird one,
hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It was kind of a different hire.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
But we thought the hire was to save Trevor Lawrence,
and Trevor Lawrence didn't improve yet Trevor Lawrence got a
new contract.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Team still bad.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Shad Khan today said that they were the most predictable
team in the league and that is a damning indictment
on your head coach, and for what they do on
offense that everybody in the league would know about it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
See, it is the only thing. I the only again.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And this is where you know coaching perspective, does I
think matter? You can only run with guys, know you know?
So do you have guys that can't process changes on
the fly?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson expected to be the team starter
entering twenty twenty five, according to The Athletic.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Weird Right, I mean expected to be will they draft
into the quarterback? This is year three injured, year one injured,
half a year two in not crazy productive, plus called
out for his work ethic. I mean obviously a make
or break here, but Shane Steiken must have had to
go in and say, like, I can fix him.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
We'll see Browns GM Andrew Berry said that quarterback Deshaun
Watson had a setback in his recovery from a torn achilles.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Berry said the team is still gathering.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Information and couldn't decipher if Watson would miss any of
the twenty twenty five campaign as they were still gathering
information about the setback.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I don't think you'd hear a aggravation of an
injury or a set back unless it was bad.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
And if it's an achilles, what does that mean? Now?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Look, one of the things when you're coming back from
an achilles is that you know other things can go wrong.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
But I know this.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I know the achilles is like the ACL and when
you get the graph done, I don't know if you
guys know this, the strongest your achilles or your ACL
is ever going to be is right there after the surgery,
because you literally have a graph there's no tearing it.
But then and this kind of lines out timeline wise,
when you get to like two to four months out,
(33:34):
the ligament or the ten that you had replaced dies
and then regenerates, and then the graph kind of continue
to stakehold with it.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But that's when it's actually its weakest. Again.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know, I'm only guessing, but it feels like
it's during that period of time that there may be
a partial tear of the same injury, and that is
not a good thing.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
To give props to. Rich Rebar. I believe that's how
you pronounce it. I apologize. Rich at lord Reeves is
his Twitter handle does work as an analyst for Sharp
Football and others. Broke down a bunch of quarterbacking stuff
and other stats from the NFL season. Three hundred and
eighty seven interceptions thrown this NFL season. That was the
(34:22):
fewest since nineteen eighty two. That was a strike shortened
season as well, but just three hundred and eighty seven
interceptions thrown in the NFL this season. Caleb Williams, by.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
The way, question why do you think that is?
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Dan? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
I would like to think we've seen a little bit
more running of the football, but I don't think that's
necessarily the case, considering how wide of a gap Saquon
Barkley and Derrick Henry had over everybody else that was
running the football that was, I mean those two and
everyone else.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
If it's young quarterbacks taking sacks, yeah, I would love
to have some sort of reason, but.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I I think it's I think teams running the football more.
Could be I think Thames run the football the more.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Caleb Williams said the highest rate of inaccurate throws into
the end zone forty five point two percent. The NFL
average was twenty three point seven percent. And how about
this one for Brock Purty, who you were talking about
earlier with with TJ and Brock Perties throws into the
end zone that resulted in a TV this season just
(35:33):
thirty one point four percent of those last year fifty
seven point one percent. In twenty twenty two it was
sixty six point seven percent, so more than a fifty
percent drop and his throws that went into the end
zone that actually resulted in touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Interesting, it's great stat.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of great numbers.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I retweeted the thread because it's just stat after stat
after stat, and a lot of them revealing for the
NFL season. Finally, Doug, Tennessee remain the number one team
in the AP Top twenty five. Pole is the nation's
only unbeaten team, but still not a unanimous number one,
receiving forty five out of a possible sixty first place votes.
Auburn is second, Iowa State third, Duke and Alabama round
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out the top five. And that is the press.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
They get out there in press. That was the press.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's the Doug Gottlieb Show. We were on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
well here's the only bummer. I got the only bumber
for you. But the NFL Playoffs. You ready for it?
No Monday, that football game now, we got nothing there,
but we got to Jason and I. Our Chargers are
playing Saturday Pittsburgh Baltimore Game three on Saturday night as well.
(36:44):
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