January 9, 2025 • 35 mins
Doug welcomes college football analyst Danny Kanell onto the show to preview the college national football semi-final games. Doug and the crew look back on 1990 in this rendition of "Don't Throw It A Throwback, Thursday". Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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the Orange Bowl, which is also the national semi final
for the first ever true college fball playoff. And we're
excited to talk about the game because we have, honestly,
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I would say three really big college football fans on
the show, and Jason woul't even dispute that, right, Sam,
Dan Bayer, and myself gigantic college football fans. And the
thing that's also unique is you have Dan is a
wiscon and from the state of Wisconsin, huge Oha State fan,
and Sam is an Iowa guy. But a huge Big
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ten fan, and of course I went to their Dame
for a year. Not a big fan, but live in
Big ten country, and so you have guys like look, nationally,
it could be hard to cover some teams that you
don't pay a ton of attention to. These just so
happens to be teams that we pay a ton of
attention to. So we'll pay some attention to him this hour.
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One of my favorite things is a game or a
segment I guess that Jase Dou has come up with,
and look, full disclosure, I know that jayse Dou really
wants to get to the FMDJ element of this where
he gets to talk about the hot songs from the
given year. But we do this kind of as a
tip of the cap or maybe even kind of a
sneer at the idea of throwback Thursday, and we call it.
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Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All right there, jay Stu, what's the year that we're
not calling a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
For?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I was
going through some matchups of Penn State and Notre Dame
over the years, Johnny Jack. They played each other in
nineteen ninety. Yes, so think about nineteen ninety. Think about
where you were, what you were doing, and what happened
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in sports and otherwise in that game, particularly Notre Dame
and Penn State were both very highly ranked and they
played each other and it was a really good game.
And I guess what ended up happening in that college
football year was that there was another sport championship, right
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it was? Was it Georgia Tech and Colorado sharing a
national championship? Ty Detmer won the Heisman Trophy. Man those awards,
they were all over the Mountain time zone. I'm just
noted that. I wonder if they refer to nineteen ninety
as the year of the Mountain time Zone. Colorado shares
a national championship, Ty Deptmer wins the Heisman Trophy. Wonderful
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year for college football, Dan, anything that strikes out to
you football wise from nineteen ninety, You know, it.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Was a crazy year in the NFL, but it was
really the year where the Dallas Cowboys kind of started
to turn around and become the Dallas Cowboys. In that
nineteen ninety draft, they were able to select emmittt Smith.
But what was maybe most intriguing was they didn't have
the number one overall pick that year despite going one
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in fifteen the previous season. And that's because in the
summer prior, in the supplemental Draft, they took Steve Walsh
from Miami. So it was so the Cowboys didn't necessarily
turn things around right when Troy Aikman came there, because
Jimmy Johnson didn't really maybe want Troy Aikman right away.
It was Steve Walsh. But in nineteen ninety it was
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the start of the Cowboys turnaround. They ended up being
seven and nine that season. That was the Super Bowl
that ended up having the Giants and Bills. But the
season Phil Simms got hurt, so Jeff Hostetler ended up
taking over. I remember that from nineteen ninety. In the
National Football League.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, you mentioned Notre Dame. In nineteen ninety, rick Myerverver
was their quarterback. They had rocket Ishmael, Ricky Waters, Tony Brooks.
I mean, like think about the running back room. Rocket
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ishmal was actually listed as a running back. They had
Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis, and Dorsey Levins all in the
same backfield.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
What that year, Yes, yes, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yes, dude, right when Notre Dame was awesome, they had dudes.
Just do'n't forget that.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
That was also the other fifth down with Colorado and Missouri.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Missouri allowed Missouri.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
A lot of crazy stuff with Missouri because it gives
me the opportunity to correct myself. So Nebraska was the
consensus national champion in nineteen ninety four. Penn State was
tab national championships by some outlets, but is not recognized
as the consensus national championship.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
What has that been recognized?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I know you? What? I know you? I don't recognize you.
What are the national champions?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Like? NAH, coaches, poll, associated Press, they all had Nebraska
number one. Other other outlets sagain other one had Penn
State number one in that ninety four season, but in
ninety seven it was Nebraska and Michigan were co champions.
And remember Nebraska had the crazy kick play against Missouri
to score a touchdown late well seven years prior. Colorado
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got that same fortune, except with an extra down in
their matchup against Missouri that would have derailed their national
championship hopes.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I have kind of a weird nineteen ninety story for you. Guys.
I spent both eighty nine ninety and ninety ninety one
all in eighth grade. Wow, I repeated eighth grade. So
eighty nine ninety was at Santiago Middle School, where ironically
my son just finished middle school last year. And ninety
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ninety one was at Yorba Middle School, which is on
the other side of Orange. And I had to take
a public bus to and from to and from school
and down Chapman Avenue, Chapman Avenue, Tustin Avenue to go
down and get off and walk up blocks to yor
Middle School. There you go. I was a Santana and
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then I was at Terrero Terrero Santana and then Terrero.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And just up to fifty seven Freeway. I was graduating
from high school, but before well.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Linda High School with with Kevin Walker, Kevin Walker.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Keith Keith Walk, Kevin's younger brother. Yeah google him. They
were good. But before I graduated from high school, Mike
Tyson lost his heavyweight championship to bust Her Douglas. And
I think it's we always talk about these things that
that happened where you knew, you know, where you were.
I think that was one of the things in sports.
(07:23):
I don't know how young y'all were, but I remember
distinctly being on a skiing trip in Big Bear and
uh we got news that that the that Tyson lost,
and at that point that was such big news because
he seemed unbeatable.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Uh yeah, but it was. It was in Japan, and
I remember either waking up to it or it was
like late at night. I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Yeah, I remember it was a Saturday. It was a
Saturday night, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It was. Yeah. I don't remember anybody actually watching the five, No,
I just remember of it. However, we got.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
News Sports Center, maybe Breaking In or FNN back when
they used to do sports on the weekends, the Financial
News Network.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, CNN Sports right as we were when CNN did sports.
That Dan pass was the CNN Sports nineteen. Fred Hickman Hickdog, Hickdog,
Hickdog passed away.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And Nick Charles has left us a while ago as well.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, he was Hickdog was called when he remember he
was at ESPN for a very brief stint, and his
nickname was the sick Dog because he always called in
sick wow, sick Dog. Yeah. This has had nothing to
do with the health issues that led to his death.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
There was he was the Iowa Sam of ESPN.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Okay, come on yeah, getting over COVID it was not fun.
So had to call out sick. No one wants COVID
around here. Do you guys want to hear about the
urine golf?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Not really right to hear about that, I'm not saying.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Ninety it was the year of Nick Faldo, who not
only won the Masters in April by beating Ray Floyd
in a playoff at Augusta National, backed it up with
a win at the Open Championship. But most notably, probably
from the nineteen ninety year in golf, we all remember
the lap around eighteen at Madina Hale Irwin making that
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long putt on the eighteenth oh yeah, and then giving
the fans the high five, high five, yeah yep.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Ended up beating Mike Donald the.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Next Donald, Yes, yes, in an eighteen whole playoffs playoff
high five.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
One of the lasting images of nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I had no idea the Reds won the World Series.
Was that Chris Sabo Jose Rio Jose Ario. It was
Chris Sabo in the team.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Was on that team?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
It was the manager Eric Davis was on that team.
You know, Lou put it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Eric Davis, what a great like he was like the
last or one of the last like great athletes before
these new this new generation.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Of Paul O'Neil, Todd Benzinger.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, Eric Davis just his timing mechanism, cocking that bat
come all the way down to his waist and high
knee kick. And then Chris Table had the Rex specs.
When I think of Loop Andela, I think if there's
ever been a guy that represents a manager's baseball body,
it's Loop Penella, right.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And it was sad that he wore like full uniform.
I never understood why managers were made to wear uniforms,
but he really didn't. The uniform did not fit the
order he got, No it fit.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He's just fat, that's all it was. I mean, he
just he had little table stick legs and a big
old belly, and he looked like he'd be a good
guy to drink beer with, which is kind of what
a manager is supposed to be.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Like he's an apple on a stick, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
In the NBA Playoffs in NBA Finals, the Portland Trailblazers, Yeah,
Met the Detroit Pistons in Portland actually won Game two
Team two this series even in at one apiece. They
went to Portland and then Detroit won three straight. Vinnie
Johnson clutch basket the end of Game five wrapped up
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the championship.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
For the Pistons as they went back to back.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Let me see how I can do. Let me see
how I do with the Portland Trailblazers starting lineup. Okay,
Dan Kevin Duckworth rip as their center. Yes, they had,
I mean Terry Porter was their point guard quite obviously,
Clyde Drexler, Yes, their two guard, Jerome Kersey was there. Three.
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And then their power forward, oh man, like all time
power forward named Buck Williams.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, I think that was Yeah, I think I think
he was on that team. I know they had swung
a deal with the New Jersey Nets to bring him in.
I think it was that season.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Off the I want to say, Danny Ainge off the bench.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah. Johnson Petrovitch I believe was part of that team
as well.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And did they upset the Wakers in the Western Conference
Finals because the Wakers had won two straight up to
that point, right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I know this lost? Yeah, the Lakers had one two
and then they lost to the Pistons the year before.
This was the second of the Pistons back to back, right,
And then the next year the Bulls started their three
peak and the.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Next year Portland lost to the Lakers. Yes, and then
Portland ended up making it back in nineteen ninety nineteen
ninety two and losing to the Bulls in that season.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
But yes, yeah, I believe it was Buck Williams. I do.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I talked about this on the show, but I had
the poster of Terry Porter, Jerome Kersey and Buck Williams.
It was like them starting a fast break. It was
black and white and the full white background and all
it said was uh oh and it was really really yeah,
really really.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Cool Terry Porter, Wisconsin. Stevens point, Okay, the Pistons starting lineup,
Zeke Joe doo bars and did they did they start
Rodman or did they start?
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I thought he was still coming off the bench.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But yeah, And then they had who they traded from
Mark Roguire for what's his name?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
They traded uh, Adrian Dantley Adrian.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Danty for Mark Wire said Mark Orguire. And then they
had what Mohorne and Lambier.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yep, Sally, Yeah, did you mention John Sally?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I thought John's how I came up the bench right
with Dennis.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Rodman and Vinnie Johnson a microwave.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Microwave? Yeah, because he's.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Would he be the airfire now or would you still
be a microwave? I'm just asking because I love my airfire.
I just want you to know if there's any sponsors
out there that want to sponsor with airfire, I have
one that's really good. I mean it's some airfire fried
chicken today for lunch.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Nineteen ninety was maybe my favorite Final four as a kid.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Ooh, that's someone in Denver.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That is the one in Denver, Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yes, with you know me A Weapon three, Weapon three,
Kenny Anderson.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Brian Oliver, Dennis Scott.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
But it also featured Arkansas and the young Lee Mayberry
and Todd Day led team who.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Ultimately would win a national championship in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Except with those not those participants Todd Dan Lee Mayberry
were off to the NBA.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Was Scotty Scotty Starty Thurman and Colas Robinson.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I'm wrong, You're right, I'm wrong. Good Final Four.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Yeah, really good Final four.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I watched a retrospective on that Final four and the
Stacey Augman. He would always be wearing a walk man
when he would do the warm ups and stuff, and
then a walkman. He says, he always played this song.
This is hold On by Wilson Phillips. It charted for
thirty straight weeks on the Billboard charts. Really their only, uh,
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their only relevant single. I think they tried to do
some other songs. Dan probably knows the secondary songs, but
I remember this.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
One release me.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I remember how hot uh hold.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
On to more day?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Who was a Phillips China Phillips. Oh still looking good
these days? Married to Billy Baldwin.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Really yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Who was in that catchy tune? And really it's universal
just hold on for one more, you know, hold on,
just hold on like Dan Bayer before Damn Bayer said it.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah, it was about to say hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Do you guys know? Nineteen ninety was the year I
decided but I wanted to become a college basketball player
and maybe hold on, hold.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
On perfect transition, Doug, because I wanted to get back
to college basketball.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Hold on, good, hold On.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That was the year that Hank Gathers died and the
first game back, uh, they didn't play the championship game
of the WCC And it was that long beach arena
I lomby Treina well because my dad was an assistant
Lombiy State, Lombi Treas right next to the Queen Mary
and I'll never forget walked into the building and the
entire place was adorned with maroon and baby blue forty
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four signs hanked the bank. They played New Mexico State,
coached by Lou Henson in the first round, and midway
through the first half, Bo Kimball's best friend was fouled
and he stepped the line to shoot a free throw,
and Hank Gathers had started shooting his free throws left
handed because he couldn't make him right handed, started shooting
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better percentage. So as a tip of the cap to
his late friend, he shot left handed, made it three dribbles,
right hand switch. She was left hand, made it holds
forty four up to the sky and there wasn't a
dry eye in the place, and I was like, this
is what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
It was also while it was an emotional time, it
was also the emergence of the Connecticut basketball program, sure
a number one seed, and if you remember, Connecticut upset
Eldon Campbell and Clemson in the sweet sixteen on a
baseball type pass to Tate George.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Day George in New Jersey. The old was the Continental
Airlines Arena at that time.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Last Meadowlands, right, Yes, I think it was Scotty Burrell
throw on that pass. So Scotty Burrell throws in that pass,
only to have a two nights later, Christian Lightner start
to add to his lore as Duke ended up knocking
off Yukon with Lightner's own buzzer beater of his own,
as Duke ended up going to.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
That final four tony Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
I was just gonna say, going back to the region
you talked about, Ohio State was in that West Region
and played UNLV who played Loyal and Merrymountain the regional final.
Moving on, Ohio State needed overtime to beat Providence led
by Eric Murdoch and Carlton Screen. That Providence team was
coached by Rick Barnes Alex Davis. He had a three
with three seconds left, tied at the end of regulation.
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Then the Buckeyes wanted it overtime gave the Rebels a
little bit of run for their money, but just couldn't
keep up to the form mentioned Stacy Augman and the
running Reps.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We gotta go, but we can't. We can't go without
mentioning the movies that year. I have them Home Alone,
Teenage Meeting, Ninja, Hurtles, Goodfellas, I'm gonna go, Get the papers,
Get the Papers. Ghost was the number one.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Movie internationally and domestically it was Home Alone.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Pretty Woman, Hollywood Baby, What's your Dream? Forty eight hours?
I mean, you want to talk about all time year
for movies total recall onload Swartzenega nineteen ninety was. What
a year in movies?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
You in Danger Girl?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
What an absolute year that is? Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
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two hours away from the college football playoff reaching it
semi finals. Penn State and No. Tra Dame DK joins us.
Of course, the longtime NFL quarterback and started in the NFL,
and the Florida State great uh Notre Dame and Penn
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State Notre Dame, Penn State. This there's a little Spider
Man meme to it. There isn't isn't there? Danny right, Like,
here's here's two programs unbelievable seventies and eighties and nineties
have had have had some time in which they've been
well regarded since then, but have never been able to
beat any of the elite teams in college football. This
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this feels like Spider Man meme, does it?
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I love that analogy, and Doug, I think it even
goes more than the programs themselves. It kind of goes
to the type of game they both want to play like.
They're both defensive dominant teams. The quarterbacks are different styles.
But I don't think you're gonna get confused either one
with like a you know, a pass there, that's just
a pass happy offense. Like they both want to run
the football, and like they're very very similar. Programs haven't
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had national titles since the eighties. That's a great way
to describe it. I love the way you put that
out there. I might steal that and use that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It's all yours. It's all yours and if you want
to give me credit. Cool. By the way, Danny's Julius
on half behalf of bet online. You got bet online
for semi final lines, look ahead lines as possible finals
matchups College Wall title game MVPs in twenty twenty five.
Heism nuts. Okay, with that said, who do you like?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
I actually like Penn State in this game slightly. Favorite
playing the game is the under forty five and a half.
I just think it's going to be a rock fight.
Like I think these both these defenses are outstanding. I
think both of them are going to be able to
control the run games on the ground. And again, like
I said, I don't think either quarterback strikes a lot
of fearing you as far as big play capability, and
I think that might be the difference in the game.
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And the reason I like Penn State slightly is because
of the offensive weapon of Tyler Warren, who is probably
the best offensive threat on the field as the tight
end for Penn State. Won the Mackie Award. But he's
way more than a tight end, Like he is a
guy they use at wide receiver. They'll put him in
the backfield next to Drew Aller, They'll put him in
the wildcat, let him run it or throw it from
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that position. He is just a Swiss army knife that
Andy kolten Nicky, the offensive coordinator for Penn State, has
had a field date. I have a feeling he's going
to dial up just a couple of plays that might
be the difference in this one. So I think in
a lower scoring affair, I like Penn State just slightly,
ever so slightly more than I do.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Note to in stet gottlib Schell here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
some people view the other game as the varsity game.
That's because you got Ohio State taking on Texas. Texas
has two losses, both to Georgia on the year, and
well then we got Ohio State and we saw Ohio
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State come back from losing to Oregon losing to Michigan
and they mollywamp Tennessee and mollywamp to Oregon. Who you like.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
It's been one of the most bizarre things I've seen,
Like not bizarre, but just like hard to explain how
a team could be as bad as losing to Michigan.
Michigan is not a very good football team, and I
think it's all mental like at that point, because they
have more talent. They have all this offensive skill players,
And I don't know if Brian Day was trying to
prove a point in saying, hey, we can match physicality
with Michigan and we're going to try to run it
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right down their throat. Well that didn't work and it
was a disaster, and then he's on the hot seat.
But it kind of galvanized the team and it woke
them up. But I think even more importantly, it was
one of those things where both side the football Jim Knowles,
the defensive coordinator for Ohio State, and then in the
offensive side of the ball with Chip Kelly, they were like,
you know what, screw that game plan, Like, why are
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we trying to bang our heads in the wall. Let's
utilize all this talent we have on both sides, and
they've been aggressive. They've been getting after opponents with blitzes
and bringing pressures, and it's worked on offense. They've come
out of both these gates, you know, bo both these
last two games, they'd come out scorching hot, and then
once then like the other team gets behind, they have
to start throwing it. And they've just absolutely annihilated their opponents.
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So Texas's biggest challenge for me, it's slowing down this
freight train, which I do. I feel like I could
be stepping in front of a locomotive, but I do
like Texas with the points. I also think maybe I'm
just trying to will a close game in existence because
you know, we've seen a lot of blowouts in this one.
But I will remind people that Texas did go to
ann Arbor and play that Michigan team and dominate them.
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It was it was Texas's best performance on the season,
and then we saw what happened with Michigan into Ohio
State in the shoe. I think Texas in order to
keep this game close, to keep it inside that number,
it's got to be defensive led. But that's the good
news because Texas has the number three scoring defense in
the country, and I do think they have the secondary
specifically to slow down Jeremiah Smith and Mecha Buca. They
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do have John A. Barron, who's the best defensive back
in the country, and a safety and Michael taff and
others who are going to patrol that center field. And
I think they're going to play more of a bend,
don't break style of defense where they don't give up
that big play which Ohio State has really thrived on.
Force him in the red zone, try to get field goals,
which I think their victories against this Ohio State offense,
and they kind of slow the game down, try to
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take away Ohio State's momentum that they come into this
game with.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Do you think that working? I do?
Speaker 8 (24:46):
I think I do. And I also think that Quinn
Ewers is probably one of the most scrutinized players in
the country, and he's been given such a hard time,
but he's had huge moments in big games last year
in Alabama in Tuscaloosa, huge made big time throws last
week against Arizona State season on the line his career
on the line, fourth and thirteen, steps up and makes
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a big play in that one. They've got some weapons too.
Matthew Golden has stepped up in Isaiah Bond's absence as
their lead receiver. I think that all comes down to
can they run the football with Wisner in the backfield.
But this offensive line is the one to me, Doug
that has to step up to the challenge. And they
are one of more talented groups, and they've dominated at times.
They just have not played four quarters of an entire season.
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I think they're going to be focused to have their
best performance, rise the occasion and meet it. So I
like Ohio State to win the game by a field goal,
but five and a half or six points where you
can get at some places, is too many points for me.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I do want to ask you, Danny Canellen joining us
some half a bed online. I know we're talking a
lot college football playoffs. You made the transition from college
to the pros. You've done draft analysis. It feels like
there's only cam Ward and Shador Sanders's first round draft picks.
If you were drafting, which one of those would you
prefer to run your franchise?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
That's great, So they're two totally different quarterbacks as well.
Shador Sanders is like NFL ready, he's been playing with
Pat Shermer, who is you know, an former NFL coach,
was his offensive coordinator at Colorado. He's really good decision
maker in the pocket. But the trend has been and
I think I'm a little bit more of a risk
taker of the trend, and the trend from NFL teams too,
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has been looked for the upside. Cam Ward has more
upside like and it's not even close. He's a better athlete,
he's got better escapability, he's got a stronger arm. But
his film is a little bit clunky because he does
take a lot of risks, like he takes some you
know crazy you know, throws like back against his body.
It's miraculous. It looks like a great play. Other times
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it can get him in a lot of trouble and
he throws picks. But I probably go with cam Ward.
I will say it though now just to it. We overdraft,
and I say we like the NFL overpasts quarterbacks all
the time. There probably go one or two. But like
in a normal scenario where you have teams so desperate
for quarterbacks, I think he's probably like, you know, into
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late the first round quarterbacks like from a value stample
of it. But I do think if I was going
to take one, I would go with cam Ward and
go with that upside that he brings, because I do
think Chador is like the upside for the arm talent.
He's got addequate arm strength, not great. He's got a capability,
but it doesn't really I can if you get exposed
a little bit more. Cam Ward makes some plays and
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a little bit similar to the Jaydon Daniels Caleb Williams
style of player, where I think Chador is more than
bon Nick, where if you get him in the right system,
like bon Nicks right work perfectly, but he maybe makes
some mistakes if it's not perfect confensive line, he can
get you out of some trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Danny Canell, of course a long time college football analysts.
He played quarterback for a long time in the NFL
on a start at Florida State. He joins behalf a
bet online. Check got bet online for semi final game lines,
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MVPs and twenty twenty five Heisman odds DK. You're the
best man. Happy New Year to you. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Appreciated. Doug always great catching up and join the games.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
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Speaker 1 (28:19):
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Gottlieb Show. Dan Byer's alongside, so it's my guy Jason Stewart.
We're taking up to the college football playoff. Covino and
Ridge follows us, and we're getting closer and closer to
closer to kickoff in Miami, Florida. What's interesting about it is, again,
if you're really a college football wonk and you've been
around it your whole life, and you're as old old
is as well, Dan and I are you remember? Orange
(29:03):
Bowl used to have a couple of things. Used to
have the Orange Bowl Parade on New Year's Eve, which
had like a little Disney theme to it, but it
was so hacked compared to the Rose Bowl parade. Like
the Rosemolt parades, this amazing, beautiful scenery, unbelievable fell hours
right to pomp. The circumstance rosemol parat was like Mickey Mouse,
(29:24):
Mini Mouse, hula hoop and some fireworks. But the Orange
Bowl oftentimes had the eventual national champion Right. Notre Dame
won a national championship. Wasn't that was that in the
Orange Bowl. I feel like that was in the Orange
Bowl with the clip, Right, Wasn't that was that oorrigible?
Speaker 6 (29:41):
They won one with Lou Holtz in the Fiesta Bowl
to beat West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The Fiesta Bowl West Virginia. Right, you gotta remember the
Fiesta Bowl in West Virginia. I forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I do.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I remember West Virginia and Penn State in a Fiesta Bowl.
I feel like the Orange Bowl used to be Nebraska.
Nebraska go to on there and I feel like they
would always get beat by Miami or Oklahoma would always
get beat by Miami. Always be a wishbone team and
they go down there and get beat by some dudes. Anyway,
Orange Bowl tonight, six thirty. Let's get to the press.
(30:15):
Six thirty Central time. Just sorry about that. Yeah, that's
all right, seven thirtiest coast time here at Mountain time.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Five thirty five mile High City.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Hey yeah, nine time in Denver, Denver, you know, not
Tree Dame. Yeah, wait, unbelievable University and Johnny yu Jack
and the four houtsman. Of course I wouldn't have champ
here with Tony Reich. Tony Reich is the first time
for Prop forty eight and Notre Dame. Great, great guy,
great dude, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Ioways Sam was requested to do the whole press in
Lou Holt's voice, Is that right?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I was back to do a news.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I request that you don't. I request that you've done enough.
I think we're good.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Hey hey Doug, Yes, my buddies, you mat like fourteen
years ago, or actually twenty almost twenty years ago. His
grandfather was Johnny Lujack, was he?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, when I do the Johnny lu Jack and four
hor I can't even do it. That was Beno Cook.
People forget Ohno Cook. I got yeah, Beno Cook had
some lines. I'll tell you the story. It's a more
of an off air story anyway. People forget who Bino
Cook was, but he was like the college football historian
at ESPN for a long time, former Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Lonis id Ah. Yes, the great Beno Cook.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Beno Cook. All right, got Dan?
Speaker 6 (31:37):
You mentioned Orange Bull to night.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
The other note from college football is that Carson Beck
is transferring. The surprising portion of this was becket already
declared for the NFL draft, had elbow surgery, So maybe
he's getting some nil offerst Maybe yes, the uarantees in
the college game in the NFL, but Carson Beck has
entered the transfer portal. Former Georgia quarterback, It's.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Just very weird, very weird to be the number one
returning guy, have a bit of a disappointing season, have
that horrific injury, and now possibly play against the rival
of Georgia. That's it's just weird.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
More quarterbacking questions in the Great State of Georgia, this
time with their professional team, the Atlanta Falcons. GM Terry
Fontino speaking today saying the team is not going to
release quarterback Kirk Cousins after he was benched in favor
of rookie Michael Pennox junior. Here's Fontina on Cousins and
this situation moving forward, We're.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Very comfortable moving forward with him as a backup. He's
handled himself extremely well through the entire process, from start
to finish, from when he came in the building, and
you know, in these adverse situations, that's when you show
your true character. Kurt's a great man and he's been
great support for my great teammate, great support for everybody
in the building. So we're very comfortable moving forward with
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him as the backup.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
As a high price backup, high price. My guess is
that's their plan, and then if somebody wants to trade
for him, if they can unload that, they will, That's
the guess.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I'm glad that you said that, because I do see
people trying to give the Falcons credit, being like, see,
they were right.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
No, they never were going to be right.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
It didn't matter because you don't take a quarterback in
the first round and then pay another guy forty million
dollars a year. You could have just drafted Michael Pennix.
You could have been your starter for week one. You
gonna put anybody in there for five million dollars a year. Instead,
you just wasted forty million dollars on a quarterback. That
didn't take anywhere. So it wasn't a good decision. Nope,
(33:34):
Oh it just annoys me. But as for a trade, yeah,
I said that both sides would have to agree to one.
How about a trade for Tyreek Hale, Well, don't expect it.
Drew Rosenhouse, his agent, speaking with Pat McAfee on the
wide receiver's future in Miami.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
Tyreek is very passionate. Anyone I've ever represented that was
great was passionate, they cared.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What you see with Tyreek is very genuine.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
He wants to win. It's not good enough for him
not to make the playoffs. He's very passionate. I think
at the end of the day, he's committed to this
Souphin football team.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
That's s Drew Rosenhaus.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Just words.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Isn't it funny how like people always go to the
he just wants to win. When a guy quits in
the fourth quarter of a game, his team needs to win,
and then he says, Tyreek just wants to win, which
is completely contradicted by the fact that he chose to
leave the Chiefs that go to the Super Bowl every year.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, yes, he could have won a couple more Super
Bowls had he simply stayed with the Chiefs. Yes, everybody
says they Here's here's to your point. Everybody says they
want to win until they actually have to do the
things it takes to make him win. So I've heard
they have terrible culture, and I've heard a lot of
(34:54):
that has to do with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Tom telasco out as the general manager of the Raiders
after one season.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well, obviously anybody's listening to the show knows that Tom's
a friend of mine, a good friend. I'm a good man,
and I think a damn good general manager. It's the
Raiders and Stansary's and Charles Robinson joined us earlier. Download
the podcast. You want to hear that interview. But he said, hey,
they probably have a guy that if they want to
get rable, you got to hire a different guy. So,
(35:24):
but the only constant where the two constants with the
Raiders are change and that Mark Davis is making those changes.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
That's the press.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That was the press, all right, Dan, Tonight's game, the
Irish are one point favorites total forty five.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Do you like I'll take Notre Dame tonight.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I'm going to take Notre Dame as well. Sam Irish,
oh Irish all the time. That means Jason wants Penn
State just because, Yes, thank you. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
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the Orange Bowl, which is also the national semi final
for the first ever true college fball playoff. And we're
excited to talk about the game because we have, honestly,
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I would say three really big college football fans on
the show, and Jason woul't even dispute that, right, Sam,
Dan Bayer, and myself gigantic college football fans. And the
thing that's also unique is you have Dan is a
wiscon and from the state of Wisconsin, huge Oha State fan,
and Sam is an Iowa guy. But a huge Big
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ten fan, and of course I went to their Dame
for a year. Not a big fan, but live in
Big ten country, and so you have guys like look, nationally,
it could be hard to cover some teams that you
don't pay a ton of attention to. These just so
happens to be teams that we pay a ton of
attention to. So we'll pay some attention to him this hour.
(01:25):
One of my favorite things is a game or a
segment I guess that Jase Dou has come up with,
and look, full disclosure, I know that jayse Dou really
wants to get to the FMDJ element of this where
he gets to talk about the hot songs from the
given year. But we do this kind of as a
tip of the cap or maybe even kind of a
sneer at the idea of throwback Thursday, and we call it.
(01:48):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All right there, jay Stu, what's the year that we're
not calling a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
For?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I was
going through some matchups of Penn State and Notre Dame
over the years, Johnny Jack. They played each other in
nineteen ninety. Yes, so think about nineteen ninety. Think about
where you were, what you were doing, and what happened
(02:26):
in sports and otherwise in that game, particularly Notre Dame
and Penn State were both very highly ranked and they
played each other and it was a really good game.
And I guess what ended up happening in that college
football year was that there was another sport championship, right
(02:49):
it was? Was it Georgia Tech and Colorado sharing a
national championship? Ty Detmer won the Heisman Trophy. Man those awards,
they were all over the Mountain time zone. I'm just
noted that. I wonder if they refer to nineteen ninety
as the year of the Mountain time Zone. Colorado shares
a national championship, Ty Deptmer wins the Heisman Trophy. Wonderful
(03:14):
year for college football, Dan, anything that strikes out to
you football wise from nineteen ninety, You know, it.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Was a crazy year in the NFL, but it was
really the year where the Dallas Cowboys kind of started
to turn around and become the Dallas Cowboys. In that
nineteen ninety draft, they were able to select emmittt Smith.
But what was maybe most intriguing was they didn't have
the number one overall pick that year despite going one
(03:40):
in fifteen the previous season. And that's because in the
summer prior, in the supplemental Draft, they took Steve Walsh
from Miami. So it was so the Cowboys didn't necessarily
turn things around right when Troy Aikman came there, because
Jimmy Johnson didn't really maybe want Troy Aikman right away.
It was Steve Walsh. But in nineteen ninety it was
(04:02):
the start of the Cowboys turnaround. They ended up being
seven and nine that season. That was the Super Bowl
that ended up having the Giants and Bills. But the
season Phil Simms got hurt, so Jeff Hostetler ended up
taking over. I remember that from nineteen ninety. In the
National Football League.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, you mentioned Notre Dame. In nineteen ninety, rick Myerverver
was their quarterback. They had rocket Ishmael, Ricky Waters, Tony Brooks.
I mean, like think about the running back room. Rocket
(04:40):
ishmal was actually listed as a running back. They had
Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis, and Dorsey Levins all in the
same backfield.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
What that year, Yes, yes, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yes, dude, right when Notre Dame was awesome, they had dudes.
Just do'n't forget that.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
That was also the other fifth down with Colorado and Missouri.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Missouri allowed Missouri.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
A lot of crazy stuff with Missouri because it gives
me the opportunity to correct myself. So Nebraska was the
consensus national champion in nineteen ninety four. Penn State was
tab national championships by some outlets, but is not recognized
as the consensus national championship.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
What has that been recognized?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I know you? What? I know you? I don't recognize you.
What are the national champions?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Like? NAH, coaches, poll, associated Press, they all had Nebraska
number one. Other other outlets sagain other one had Penn
State number one in that ninety four season, but in
ninety seven it was Nebraska and Michigan were co champions.
And remember Nebraska had the crazy kick play against Missouri
to score a touchdown late well seven years prior. Colorado
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got that same fortune, except with an extra down in
their matchup against Missouri that would have derailed their national
championship hopes.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I have kind of a weird nineteen ninety story for you. Guys.
I spent both eighty nine ninety and ninety ninety one
all in eighth grade. Wow, I repeated eighth grade. So
eighty nine ninety was at Santiago Middle School, where ironically
my son just finished middle school last year. And ninety
(06:27):
ninety one was at Yorba Middle School, which is on
the other side of Orange. And I had to take
a public bus to and from to and from school
and down Chapman Avenue, Chapman Avenue, Tustin Avenue to go
down and get off and walk up blocks to yor
Middle School. There you go. I was a Santana and
(06:47):
then I was at Terrero Terrero Santana and then Terrero.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And just up to fifty seven Freeway. I was graduating
from high school, but before well.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Linda High School with with Kevin Walker, Kevin Walker.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Keith Keith Walk, Kevin's younger brother. Yeah google him. They
were good. But before I graduated from high school, Mike
Tyson lost his heavyweight championship to bust Her Douglas. And
I think it's we always talk about these things that
that happened where you knew, you know, where you were.
I think that was one of the things in sports.
(07:23):
I don't know how young y'all were, but I remember
distinctly being on a skiing trip in Big Bear and
uh we got news that that the that Tyson lost,
and at that point that was such big news because
he seemed unbeatable.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Uh yeah, but it was. It was in Japan, and
I remember either waking up to it or it was
like late at night. I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Yeah, I remember it was a Saturday. It was a
Saturday night, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It was. Yeah. I don't remember anybody actually watching the five, No,
I just remember of it. However, we got.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
News Sports Center, maybe Breaking In or FNN back when
they used to do sports on the weekends, the Financial
News Network.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, CNN Sports right as we were when CNN did sports.
That Dan pass was the CNN Sports nineteen. Fred Hickman Hickdog, Hickdog,
Hickdog passed away.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And Nick Charles has left us a while ago as well.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, he was Hickdog was called when he remember he
was at ESPN for a very brief stint, and his
nickname was the sick Dog because he always called in
sick wow, sick Dog. Yeah. This has had nothing to
do with the health issues that led to his death.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
There was he was the Iowa Sam of ESPN.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Okay, come on yeah, getting over COVID it was not fun.
So had to call out sick. No one wants COVID
around here. Do you guys want to hear about the
urine golf?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Not really right to hear about that, I'm not saying.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Ninety it was the year of Nick Faldo, who not
only won the Masters in April by beating Ray Floyd
in a playoff at Augusta National, backed it up with
a win at the Open Championship. But most notably, probably
from the nineteen ninety year in golf, we all remember
the lap around eighteen at Madina Hale Irwin making that
(09:27):
long putt on the eighteenth oh yeah, and then giving
the fans the high five, high five, yeah yep.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Ended up beating Mike Donald the.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Next Donald, Yes, yes, in an eighteen whole playoffs playoff
high five.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
One of the lasting images of nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I had no idea the Reds won the World Series.
Was that Chris Sabo Jose Rio Jose Ario. It was
Chris Sabo in the team.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Was on that team?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
It was the manager Eric Davis was on that team.
You know, Lou put it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Eric Davis, what a great like he was like the
last or one of the last like great athletes before
these new this new generation.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Of Paul O'Neil, Todd Benzinger.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, Eric Davis just his timing mechanism, cocking that bat
come all the way down to his waist and high
knee kick. And then Chris Table had the Rex specs.
When I think of Loop Andela, I think if there's
ever been a guy that represents a manager's baseball body,
it's Loop Penella, right.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And it was sad that he wore like full uniform.
I never understood why managers were made to wear uniforms,
but he really didn't. The uniform did not fit the
order he got, No it fit.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He's just fat, that's all it was. I mean, he
just he had little table stick legs and a big
old belly, and he looked like he'd be a good
guy to drink beer with, which is kind of what
a manager is supposed to be.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Like he's an apple on a stick, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
In the NBA Playoffs in NBA Finals, the Portland Trailblazers, Yeah,
Met the Detroit Pistons in Portland actually won Game two
Team two this series even in at one apiece. They
went to Portland and then Detroit won three straight. Vinnie
Johnson clutch basket the end of Game five wrapped up
(11:09):
the championship.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
For the Pistons as they went back to back.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Let me see how I can do. Let me see
how I do with the Portland Trailblazers starting lineup. Okay,
Dan Kevin Duckworth rip as their center. Yes, they had,
I mean Terry Porter was their point guard quite obviously,
Clyde Drexler, Yes, their two guard, Jerome Kersey was there. Three.
(11:38):
And then their power forward, oh man, like all time
power forward named Buck Williams.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, I think that was Yeah, I think I think
he was on that team. I know they had swung
a deal with the New Jersey Nets to bring him in.
I think it was that season.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Off the I want to say, Danny Ainge off the bench.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Yeah. Johnson Petrovitch I believe was part of that team
as well.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And did they upset the Wakers in the Western Conference
Finals because the Wakers had won two straight up to
that point, right.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I know this lost? Yeah, the Lakers had one two
and then they lost to the Pistons the year before.
This was the second of the Pistons back to back, right,
And then the next year the Bulls started their three
peak and the.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Next year Portland lost to the Lakers. Yes, and then
Portland ended up making it back in nineteen ninety nineteen
ninety two and losing to the Bulls in that season.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
But yes, yeah, I believe it was Buck Williams. I do.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I talked about this on the show, but I had
the poster of Terry Porter, Jerome Kersey and Buck Williams.
It was like them starting a fast break. It was
black and white and the full white background and all
it said was uh oh and it was really really yeah,
really really.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Cool Terry Porter, Wisconsin. Stevens point, Okay, the Pistons starting lineup,
Zeke Joe doo bars and did they did they start
Rodman or did they start?
Speaker 6 (13:15):
I thought he was still coming off the bench.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But yeah, And then they had who they traded from
Mark Roguire for what's his name?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
They traded uh, Adrian Dantley Adrian.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Danty for Mark Wire said Mark Orguire. And then they
had what Mohorne and Lambier.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yep, Sally, Yeah, did you mention John Sally?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I thought John's how I came up the bench right
with Dennis.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Rodman and Vinnie Johnson a microwave.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Microwave? Yeah, because he's.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Would he be the airfire now or would you still
be a microwave? I'm just asking because I love my airfire.
I just want you to know if there's any sponsors
out there that want to sponsor with airfire, I have
one that's really good. I mean it's some airfire fried
chicken today for lunch.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Nineteen ninety was maybe my favorite Final four as a kid.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Ooh, that's someone in Denver.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That is the one in Denver, Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yes, with you know me A Weapon three, Weapon three,
Kenny Anderson.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Brian Oliver, Dennis Scott.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
But it also featured Arkansas and the young Lee Mayberry
and Todd Day led team who.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Ultimately would win a national championship in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Except with those not those participants Todd Dan Lee Mayberry
were off to the NBA.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Was Scotty Scotty Starty Thurman and Colas Robinson.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I'm wrong, You're right, I'm wrong. Good Final Four.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Yeah, really good Final four.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I watched a retrospective on that Final four and the
Stacey Augman. He would always be wearing a walk man
when he would do the warm ups and stuff, and
then a walkman. He says, he always played this song.
This is hold On by Wilson Phillips. It charted for
thirty straight weeks on the Billboard charts. Really their only, uh,
(15:01):
their only relevant single. I think they tried to do
some other songs. Dan probably knows the secondary songs, but
I remember this.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
One release me.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I remember how hot uh hold.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
On to more day?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Who was a Phillips China Phillips. Oh still looking good
these days? Married to Billy Baldwin.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Really yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Who was in that catchy tune? And really it's universal
just hold on for one more, you know, hold on,
just hold on like Dan Bayer before Damn Bayer said it.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Yeah, it was about to say hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Do you guys know? Nineteen ninety was the year I
decided but I wanted to become a college basketball player
and maybe hold on, hold.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
On perfect transition, Doug, because I wanted to get back
to college basketball.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Hold on, good, hold On.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That was the year that Hank Gathers died and the
first game back, uh, they didn't play the championship game
of the WCC And it was that long beach arena
I lomby Treina well because my dad was an assistant
Lombiy State, Lombi Treas right next to the Queen Mary
and I'll never forget walked into the building and the
entire place was adorned with maroon and baby blue forty
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four signs hanked the bank. They played New Mexico State,
coached by Lou Henson in the first round, and midway
through the first half, Bo Kimball's best friend was fouled
and he stepped the line to shoot a free throw,
and Hank Gathers had started shooting his free throws left
handed because he couldn't make him right handed, started shooting
(16:32):
better percentage. So as a tip of the cap to
his late friend, he shot left handed, made it three dribbles,
right hand switch. She was left hand, made it holds
forty four up to the sky and there wasn't a
dry eye in the place, and I was like, this
is what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
It was also while it was an emotional time, it
was also the emergence of the Connecticut basketball program, sure
a number one seed, and if you remember, Connecticut upset
Eldon Campbell and Clemson in the sweet sixteen on a
baseball type pass to Tate George.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Day George in New Jersey. The old was the Continental
Airlines Arena at that time.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Last Meadowlands, right, Yes, I think it was Scotty Burrell
throw on that pass. So Scotty Burrell throws in that pass,
only to have a two nights later, Christian Lightner start
to add to his lore as Duke ended up knocking
off Yukon with Lightner's own buzzer beater of his own,
as Duke ended up going to.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
That final four tony Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
I was just gonna say, going back to the region
you talked about, Ohio State was in that West Region
and played UNLV who played Loyal and Merrymountain the regional final.
Moving on, Ohio State needed overtime to beat Providence led
by Eric Murdoch and Carlton Screen. That Providence team was
coached by Rick Barnes Alex Davis. He had a three
with three seconds left, tied at the end of regulation.
(17:53):
Then the Buckeyes wanted it overtime gave the Rebels a
little bit of run for their money, but just couldn't
keep up to the form mentioned Stacy Augman and the
running Reps.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
We gotta go, but we can't. We can't go without
mentioning the movies that year. I have them Home Alone,
Teenage Meeting, Ninja, Hurtles, Goodfellas, I'm gonna go, Get the papers,
Get the Papers. Ghost was the number one.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Movie internationally and domestically it was Home Alone.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Pretty Woman, Hollywood Baby, What's your Dream? Forty eight hours?
I mean, you want to talk about all time year
for movies total recall onload Swartzenega nineteen ninety was. What
a year in movies?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
You in Danger Girl?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
What an absolute year that is? Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
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two hours away from the college football playoff reaching it
semi finals. Penn State and No. Tra Dame DK joins us.
Of course, the longtime NFL quarterback and started in the NFL,
and the Florida State great uh Notre Dame and Penn
(19:41):
State Notre Dame, Penn State. This there's a little Spider
Man meme to it. There isn't isn't there? Danny right, Like,
here's here's two programs unbelievable seventies and eighties and nineties
have had have had some time in which they've been
well regarded since then, but have never been able to
beat any of the elite teams in college football. This
(20:03):
this feels like Spider Man meme, does it?
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I love that analogy, and Doug, I think it even
goes more than the programs themselves. It kind of goes
to the type of game they both want to play like.
They're both defensive dominant teams. The quarterbacks are different styles.
But I don't think you're gonna get confused either one
with like a you know, a pass there, that's just
a pass happy offense. Like they both want to run
the football, and like they're very very similar. Programs haven't
(20:29):
had national titles since the eighties. That's a great way
to describe it. I love the way you put that
out there. I might steal that and use that.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
It's all yours. It's all yours and if you want
to give me credit. Cool. By the way, Danny's Julius
on half behalf of bet online. You got bet online
for semi final lines, look ahead lines as possible finals
matchups College Wall title game MVPs in twenty twenty five.
Heism nuts. Okay, with that said, who do you like?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
I actually like Penn State in this game slightly. Favorite
playing the game is the under forty five and a half.
I just think it's going to be a rock fight.
Like I think these both these defenses are outstanding. I
think both of them are going to be able to
control the run games on the ground. And again, like
I said, I don't think either quarterback strikes a lot
of fearing you as far as big play capability, and
I think that might be the difference in the game.
(21:18):
And the reason I like Penn State slightly is because
of the offensive weapon of Tyler Warren, who is probably
the best offensive threat on the field as the tight
end for Penn State. Won the Mackie Award. But he's
way more than a tight end, Like he is a
guy they use at wide receiver. They'll put him in
the backfield next to Drew Aller, They'll put him in
the wildcat, let him run it or throw it from
(21:39):
that position. He is just a Swiss army knife that
Andy kolten Nicky, the offensive coordinator for Penn State, has
had a field date. I have a feeling he's going
to dial up just a couple of plays that might
be the difference in this one. So I think in
a lower scoring affair, I like Penn State just slightly,
ever so slightly more than I do.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Note to in stet gottlib Schell here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
some people view the other game as the varsity game.
That's because you got Ohio State taking on Texas. Texas
has two losses, both to Georgia on the year, and
well then we got Ohio State and we saw Ohio
(22:17):
State come back from losing to Oregon losing to Michigan
and they mollywamp Tennessee and mollywamp to Oregon. Who you like.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
It's been one of the most bizarre things I've seen,
Like not bizarre, but just like hard to explain how
a team could be as bad as losing to Michigan.
Michigan is not a very good football team, and I
think it's all mental like at that point, because they
have more talent. They have all this offensive skill players,
And I don't know if Brian Day was trying to
prove a point in saying, hey, we can match physicality
with Michigan and we're going to try to run it
(22:49):
right down their throat. Well that didn't work and it
was a disaster, and then he's on the hot seat.
But it kind of galvanized the team and it woke
them up. But I think even more importantly, it was
one of those things where both side the football Jim Knowles,
the defensive coordinator for Ohio State, and then in the
offensive side of the ball with Chip Kelly, they were like,
you know what, screw that game plan, Like, why are
(23:11):
we trying to bang our heads in the wall. Let's
utilize all this talent we have on both sides, and
they've been aggressive. They've been getting after opponents with blitzes
and bringing pressures, and it's worked on offense. They've come
out of both these gates, you know, bo both these
last two games, they'd come out scorching hot, and then
once then like the other team gets behind, they have
to start throwing it. And they've just absolutely annihilated their opponents.
(23:34):
So Texas's biggest challenge for me, it's slowing down this
freight train, which I do. I feel like I could
be stepping in front of a locomotive, but I do
like Texas with the points. I also think maybe I'm
just trying to will a close game in existence because
you know, we've seen a lot of blowouts in this one.
But I will remind people that Texas did go to
ann Arbor and play that Michigan team and dominate them.
(23:55):
It was it was Texas's best performance on the season,
and then we saw what happened with Michigan into Ohio
State in the shoe. I think Texas in order to
keep this game close, to keep it inside that number,
it's got to be defensive led. But that's the good
news because Texas has the number three scoring defense in
the country, and I do think they have the secondary
specifically to slow down Jeremiah Smith and Mecha Buca. They
(24:18):
do have John A. Barron, who's the best defensive back
in the country, and a safety and Michael taff and
others who are going to patrol that center field. And
I think they're going to play more of a bend,
don't break style of defense where they don't give up
that big play which Ohio State has really thrived on.
Force him in the red zone, try to get field goals,
which I think their victories against this Ohio State offense,
and they kind of slow the game down, try to
(24:40):
take away Ohio State's momentum that they come into this
game with.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Do you think that working? I do?
Speaker 8 (24:46):
I think I do. And I also think that Quinn
Ewers is probably one of the most scrutinized players in
the country, and he's been given such a hard time,
but he's had huge moments in big games last year
in Alabama in Tuscaloosa, huge made big time throws last
week against Arizona State season on the line his career
on the line, fourth and thirteen, steps up and makes
(25:08):
a big play in that one. They've got some weapons too.
Matthew Golden has stepped up in Isaiah Bond's absence as
their lead receiver. I think that all comes down to
can they run the football with Wisner in the backfield.
But this offensive line is the one to me, Doug
that has to step up to the challenge. And they
are one of more talented groups, and they've dominated at times.
They just have not played four quarters of an entire season.
(25:29):
I think they're going to be focused to have their
best performance, rise the occasion and meet it. So I
like Ohio State to win the game by a field goal,
but five and a half or six points where you
can get at some places, is too many points for me.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I do want to ask you, Danny Canellen joining us
some half a bed online. I know we're talking a
lot college football playoffs. You made the transition from college
to the pros. You've done draft analysis. It feels like
there's only cam Ward and Shador Sanders's first round draft picks.
If you were drafting, which one of those would you
prefer to run your franchise?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
That's great, So they're two totally different quarterbacks as well.
Shador Sanders is like NFL ready, he's been playing with
Pat Shermer, who is you know, an former NFL coach,
was his offensive coordinator at Colorado. He's really good decision
maker in the pocket. But the trend has been and
I think I'm a little bit more of a risk
taker of the trend, and the trend from NFL teams too,
(26:25):
has been looked for the upside. Cam Ward has more
upside like and it's not even close. He's a better athlete,
he's got better escapability, he's got a stronger arm. But
his film is a little bit clunky because he does
take a lot of risks, like he takes some you
know crazy you know, throws like back against his body.
It's miraculous. It looks like a great play. Other times
(26:46):
it can get him in a lot of trouble and
he throws picks. But I probably go with cam Ward.
I will say it though now just to it. We overdraft,
and I say we like the NFL overpasts quarterbacks all
the time. There probably go one or two. But like
in a normal scenario where you have teams so desperate
for quarterbacks, I think he's probably like, you know, into
(27:08):
late the first round quarterbacks like from a value stample
of it. But I do think if I was going
to take one, I would go with cam Ward and
go with that upside that he brings, because I do
think Chador is like the upside for the arm talent.
He's got addequate arm strength, not great. He's got a capability,
but it doesn't really I can if you get exposed
a little bit more. Cam Ward makes some plays and
(27:30):
a little bit similar to the Jaydon Daniels Caleb Williams
style of player, where I think Chador is more than
bon Nick, where if you get him in the right system,
like bon Nicks right work perfectly, but he maybe makes
some mistakes if it's not perfect confensive line, he can
get you out of some trouble.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Danny Canell, of course a long time college football analysts.
He played quarterback for a long time in the NFL
on a start at Florida State. He joins behalf a
bet online. Check got bet online for semi final game lines,
look aheadlines and possible finals matchups, college football title game
MVPs and twenty twenty five Heisman odds DK. You're the
best man. Happy New Year to you. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Appreciated. Doug always great catching up and join the games.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
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Speaker 1 (28:19):
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(28:41):
Gottlieb Show. Dan Byer's alongside, so it's my guy Jason Stewart.
We're taking up to the college football playoff. Covino and
Ridge follows us, and we're getting closer and closer to
closer to kickoff in Miami, Florida. What's interesting about it is, again,
if you're really a college football wonk and you've been
around it your whole life, and you're as old old
is as well, Dan and I are you remember? Orange
(29:03):
Bowl used to have a couple of things. Used to
have the Orange Bowl Parade on New Year's Eve, which
had like a little Disney theme to it, but it
was so hacked compared to the Rose Bowl parade. Like
the Rosemolt parades, this amazing, beautiful scenery, unbelievable fell hours
right to pomp. The circumstance rosemol parat was like Mickey Mouse,
(29:24):
Mini Mouse, hula hoop and some fireworks. But the Orange
Bowl oftentimes had the eventual national champion Right. Notre Dame
won a national championship. Wasn't that was that in the
Orange Bowl. I feel like that was in the Orange
Bowl with the clip, Right, Wasn't that was that oorrigible?
Speaker 6 (29:41):
They won one with Lou Holtz in the Fiesta Bowl
to beat West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The Fiesta Bowl West Virginia. Right, you gotta remember the
Fiesta Bowl in West Virginia. I forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I do.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I remember West Virginia and Penn State in a Fiesta Bowl.
I feel like the Orange Bowl used to be Nebraska.
Nebraska go to on there and I feel like they
would always get beat by Miami or Oklahoma would always
get beat by Miami. Always be a wishbone team and
they go down there and get beat by some dudes. Anyway,
Orange Bowl tonight, six thirty. Let's get to the press.
(30:15):
Six thirty Central time. Just sorry about that. Yeah, that's
all right, seven thirtiest coast time here at Mountain time.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Five thirty five mile High City.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Hey yeah, nine time in Denver, Denver, you know, not
Tree Dame. Yeah, wait, unbelievable University and Johnny yu Jack
and the four houtsman. Of course I wouldn't have champ
here with Tony Reich. Tony Reich is the first time
for Prop forty eight and Notre Dame. Great, great guy,
great dude, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Ioways Sam was requested to do the whole press in
Lou Holt's voice, Is that right?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I was back to do a news.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I request that you don't. I request that you've done enough.
I think we're good.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Hey hey Doug, Yes, my buddies, you mat like fourteen
years ago, or actually twenty almost twenty years ago. His
grandfather was Johnny Lujack, was he?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, when I do the Johnny lu Jack and four
hor I can't even do it. That was Beno Cook.
People forget Ohno Cook. I got yeah, Beno Cook had
some lines. I'll tell you the story. It's a more
of an off air story anyway. People forget who Bino
Cook was, but he was like the college football historian
at ESPN for a long time, former Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Lonis id Ah. Yes, the great Beno Cook.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Beno Cook. All right, got Dan?
Speaker 6 (31:37):
You mentioned Orange Bull to night.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
The other note from college football is that Carson Beck
is transferring. The surprising portion of this was becket already
declared for the NFL draft, had elbow surgery, So maybe
he's getting some nil offerst Maybe yes, the uarantees in
the college game in the NFL, but Carson Beck has
entered the transfer portal. Former Georgia quarterback, It's.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Just very weird, very weird to be the number one
returning guy, have a bit of a disappointing season, have
that horrific injury, and now possibly play against the rival
of Georgia. That's it's just weird.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
More quarterbacking questions in the Great State of Georgia, this
time with their professional team, the Atlanta Falcons. GM Terry
Fontino speaking today saying the team is not going to
release quarterback Kirk Cousins after he was benched in favor
of rookie Michael Pennox junior. Here's Fontina on Cousins and
this situation moving forward, We're.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Very comfortable moving forward with him as a backup. He's
handled himself extremely well through the entire process, from start
to finish, from when he came in the building, and
you know, in these adverse situations, that's when you show
your true character. Kurt's a great man and he's been
great support for my great teammate, great support for everybody
in the building. So we're very comfortable moving forward with
(32:49):
him as the backup.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
As a high price backup, high price. My guess is
that's their plan, and then if somebody wants to trade
for him, if they can unload that, they will, That's
the guess.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I'm glad that you said that, because I do see
people trying to give the Falcons credit, being like, see,
they were right.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
No, they never were going to be right.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
It didn't matter because you don't take a quarterback in
the first round and then pay another guy forty million
dollars a year. You could have just drafted Michael Pennix.
You could have been your starter for week one. You
gonna put anybody in there for five million dollars a year. Instead,
you just wasted forty million dollars on a quarterback. That
didn't take anywhere. So it wasn't a good decision. Nope,
(33:34):
Oh it just annoys me. But as for a trade, yeah,
I said that both sides would have to agree to one.
How about a trade for Tyreek Hale, Well, don't expect it.
Drew Rosenhouse, his agent, speaking with Pat McAfee on the
wide receiver's future in Miami.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
Tyreek is very passionate. Anyone I've ever represented that was
great was passionate, they cared.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What you see with Tyreek is very genuine.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
He wants to win. It's not good enough for him
not to make the playoffs. He's very passionate. I think
at the end of the day, he's committed to this
Souphin football team.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
That's s Drew Rosenhaus.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Just words.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Isn't it funny how like people always go to the
he just wants to win. When a guy quits in
the fourth quarter of a game, his team needs to win,
and then he says, Tyreek just wants to win, which
is completely contradicted by the fact that he chose to
leave the Chiefs that go to the Super Bowl every year.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, yes, he could have won a couple more Super
Bowls had he simply stayed with the Chiefs. Yes, everybody
says they Here's here's to your point. Everybody says they
want to win until they actually have to do the
things it takes to make him win. So I've heard
they have terrible culture, and I've heard a lot of
(34:54):
that has to do with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Tom telasco out as the general manager of the Raiders
after one season.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well, obviously anybody's listening to the show knows that Tom's
a friend of mine, a good friend. I'm a good man,
and I think a damn good general manager. It's the
Raiders and Stansary's and Charles Robinson joined us earlier. Download
the podcast. You want to hear that interview. But he said, hey,
they probably have a guy that if they want to
get rable, you got to hire a different guy. So,
(35:24):
but the only constant where the two constants with the
Raiders are change and that Mark Davis is making those changes.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
That's the press.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That was the press, all right, Dan, Tonight's game, the
Irish are one point favorites total forty five.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Do you like I'll take Notre Dame tonight.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I'm going to take Notre Dame as well. Sam Irish,
oh Irish all the time. That means Jason wants Penn
State just because, Yes, thank you. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
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