January 9, 2025 • 40 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the breaking news that the Las Vegas Raiders have fired general manager Tom Telesco, Doug thinks it is a very Raider thing to do two days after firing head coach Antonio Pierce.
Doug and the crew look back on 1990 in this rendition of "Don't Throw It A Throwback, Thursday".
Doug welcomes college football analyst Danny Kanell onto the show to preview the college national football semi-final games.
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heard this before. But the Raiders did something weird today.
Ah stop, here as were But the Raiders did what
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the Raiders do and they fired my good friend Tom
teleusco less than a year on the job. Uh yeah,
I guess I'm supposed to be surprised, But why would
I actually be surprised at the Raiders? Right? Why would
actually be surprised? And I get it whoever they're hiring
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as a head coach, Like you know, there's a world
there where had Bill Belichick had any desire to consider
working for the Raiders as their head coach. And I again,
there's various supports that people called, and he has said
he's not interested, but he would have wanted his own guy,
and many people want their own guy. But that's a
(01:33):
I gotta say. I gotta tell you if you look
at I mean, he drafted one first round pick, it
was Block Powers any good And maybe you could say, hey,
block Powers was going to be good regardless whoever drafted it.
But he was good. And you know, he got something
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for DeVante Adams who didn't want to be a Raider.
They didn't go and draft some quarterback who's stunk. They
just stood pat for a year, knowing that this was
ultimately coming, did the best they could. And am I
defending him because he's a friend of mine? Sure? Am
I defending him because I thought he actually did a
good job with Chargers. Sure, and he comes from good stock. Again,
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if we're actually real about it. My conversations with Tom
last year, he's like, look, I was eleven years with
the Chargers. Most times you lose a job, you're never
getting back to that level. He was stunned even got
the job but if you get the guy the job,
why don't you don't let him go through one cycle?
Strikes me as really odd. It is odd, you know why,
(02:40):
because it's the Raiders, right, Because it's the Raiders. And
many of the things that both Mark and Al have
done are ahead of the curve. Right. They were the
first to move to la and try and get a
stadium done when they couldn't get their stadium deal done
in Oakland. Now you go back to the eighties and
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that was huge groundbreaking stuff. Of course, Al, with his
ties to USC it did make a lot of sense.
He was the first to hire a black head coach.
He has he has, he has been He was a trailblazer.
Mark was the first to offer a coach and sign
a coach to one hundred million dollar deal. Again, all
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of this is out of the curve. And they fired
coaches one year in, they fired general managers early on
their tenures. They fired lots of different people. So some
of the things that are being done the Raiders have
actually done before. But you get to a level of
dysfunction where it doesn't matter who it is, no one
can succeed. When it's a turnstylet head coach and a
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gentle manager. Right, no one, no one can succeed. So
I don't have to apologize for Tom's record this year
or what happened with the Chargers, or the fact that
you are better this year than last year. I think
all of us, I mean, especially me and Jason, we
weren't big Brandon Staley guys, and Staley did make the
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playoffs two years previously. They did have a big lead,
and they did succumb to a Jacks comeback. And you know,
it's funny I said this to a buddy of mine, like,
you know, here's the difference in pr Brandon Staley goes
for it, doesn't get it. He's an idiot. Dan Campbell
goes for it, doesn't get it, and he's the greatest
dude ever. He's Captain America. But that's what winning does,
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especially winning in the playoffs, and the Chargers haven't done that.
But in the least surprising news ever, the Raiders do
something that they didn't have to do just because their
owner decided to do it. And my guess is this
in some way relates to Tom Brady and Tom Brady
going like, yeah, do you want my suggestions? Sure, you
want my money. Okay, well my suggestions have to come
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to life. And he doesn't have a relationship that much
with Tullusco. I know Tellusco talked to him when Brady
was a free agent, and it seems like whoever they
focus on hiring, they're going to want a GM to
marry with him instead of allowing Tom tell Us go to.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Hire a coach.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay, it's your choice, but when you have this much turnover,
this much of a turnstile, that's what ends up happening,
and the chances for success are remote, are remote. You
have to have a consistency, a consistent voice, give a guy,
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give somebody a chance to build. And that's not the
choice about Mark Davis. And Mark Davis has every right
to make that choice, but we also have every right
to go. This is the Raiders being the raiders. There
is no more raid or move than firing the GM,
firing the head coach, and then firing the GM a
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day later after letting everybody know the GM was safe.
I don't know what Tom to us goes list look
like as far as head coach head coaches he wanted,
but maybe Mark didn't like that. If you had to
say what's a weird franchise? And you took a look
at Mark Davis, you go, it looks that doesn't look normal.
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That terrible haircut, that copy of a copy with the
evil can Eevil suit, that constant changing of coaches, that
constant changing of gms. That doesn't feel like everything else
in the NFL. And it doesn't. So I don't know.
I'd be fascinating to see what happens now. Is there
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a world where they go back to Gruden because now
Gruden apparently is a candidate again. I don't know, but
I do know that that this is just a very
Raiders esque move. Fairers, this move. It's Doug Gottlieb Show
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Speaker 3 (07:24):
It sure seems that in the NFL that GMS, and
I know its Alasco wasn't a ford of this opportunity,
but it almost seems like they get at most two
bytes at the apple nowadays. And there seems to be
a time there was a time in the NFL where
the general manager was the general manager. The general manager
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would hire the head coach and the coach would hire
the staff, and if that didn't work out, coach and
staff would leave and that general manager would hire another
head coach. And there was always this almost hierarchy doug
of power owner, general manager, head coach. But general managers
would get, you know, three bites at the apple really
in terms of the coaches, the staff, and if two
(08:07):
didn't work out, strike three was you're out. And now
there seems to be this just everything has got to
be partnered and in lockstep. And I even found it
funny in Tennessee when Ran Carthon got ran earlier this
week and they're keeping Brian Callahan, and I think that
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Brian Callahan is gonna be a good head coach. They're
gonna have the first overall pick, but you're then bringing
in a GM that didn't hire him, and so now
the like the level of trying to succeed is I
don't want to say it's almost unattainable, but it's up there,
and it just doesn't like things don't match up anymore,
(08:48):
and it seems like we need this, we need either
it be head coach in GM and that's the only
way it's gonna work. But you know, these days of
gms being able to hire two and three head coaches
just not what it is anymore. And in a way,
like I guess I could see what the Raiders are
doing because they maybe want their head coach and GM
to be on the same page. But man, it's just
(09:09):
not like it was anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's really weird to have that dynamic,
you know, to have a GM who didn't hire the
coach you know, or yeah, it's just it's very very odd.
Usually they're tied at the hip, tied at that lately,
I would say it more so than you think. And look,
it's like that for uh, Look, coaches hire other coaches
(09:35):
who they work with before coaches bring in players who
they've coached before. At my level, you know, you're ad.
You're tied to your AD and to your president. You know,
they shared the same vision. So I think maybe we
study it more. And again, I don't have historical knowledge
of what happened in the nineties and maybe early two
(09:56):
thousands or whatever when we first started this, but I
would gen say, last twenty years I've been doing this,
it's more often than not, is that fair?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I think it's a recent I would say the last
decade or so. So someone like like Aj Smith, who
was there before Telesco was, yes, had a you know,
I had a decade with the with the Chargers. Heck,
even Telesco and his last gig was maybe one of
the the rare ones that was allowed to actually be
(10:26):
the GM. But I just felt that it was Now
everything is so urgent, everything is such a quick turnaround,
and there's you know, I'm trying to think of other
examples popping up in my head, but I just don't
I remember when. Obviously, Mike Holmgren wanted GM powers right,
so that's why he left Green Bay. And I'm using
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the Seahawks as an example because Pete Carroll and John
Schneider were kind of that, and now you know that's
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Boy, all time flies.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
But that seems to be like the where Carol had
final say but Schneider had his own sort of deal
like that. To me, it was kind of like the
impetus of it, like the start of this is, hey,
he's going to be coming in as the head coach,
but he's going to have significant power and final say
on the roster and whatnot. I just felt like there
was this era before that that that wasn't the case,
(11:17):
and now it's just everything is tied and having this
one cohesive unit. And I'm not even sure if that's
the best way to go because you're throwing everything out.
At least, you know, Jacksonville decided, all right, whether you
like Trent Balky or not, we're going to let him
make the decision. And Seon Codd said, don't throw the
baby out with the bath water. So just a different
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time in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Has anybody actually ever thrown the baby out with the bathwater?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I have no no.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh, well, what part of is we don't throw the
bathwater out now, we let it down the drain. But
I just I did wonder if anybody's actually ever thrown
the baby out with the actual bathwater, that would be weird.
That would be weird.
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And we're excited to talk about the game because we have, honestly,
I would say three really big college football fans on
the show, and Jason wuldn't even dispute that, right, Sam,
Dan Bayer, and myself gigantic college football fans. And the
thing that's also unique is you have Dan is a
Wisconsin from the state of Wisconsin, huge Ohias state fan,
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and Sam is an Iowa guy, but a huge Big
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it could be hard to cover some teams that you
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One of my favorite things is a game or a
segment I guess that Jase Dou has come up with,
and look, full disclosure, I know that Jay s Dou
really wants to get to the FMDJ element of this
where he gets to talk about the hot songs from
the given year. But we do this kind of as
a tip of the cap or maybe even kind of
a sneer at the idea of throwback Thursday, and we
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call it. Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Don't call it.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
A throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
All right there, Jay Su, what's the year that we're
not calling it a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
For Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I was going through some matchups of Penn State and
Notre Dame over the years, shy Jack, they played each
other in nineteen ninety. Yes, so think about nineteen ninety
Think about where you were, what you were doing, and
what happened in sports and otherwise in that game, particularly
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Notre Dame and Penn State were both very highly ranked
and they played each other and it was a really
good game. And I guess what ended up happening in
that college football year was that there was another sports championship,
right it was? Was it Georgia Tech and Colorado sharing
(14:41):
a national championship? Ti Dettmer won the Heisman Trophy. Man
those awards were all over the Mountain time zone. I'm
just noting that. I wonder if they refer to nineteen
ninety as the year of the Mountain time Zone. Colorado
shares a national championship, Ti Deptmer wins the Heisman Trophy.
Wonderful year for college football, Dan, anything that strikes out
(15:05):
to you football wise from nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You know, it was a crazy year in the NFL,
but it was really the year where the Dallas Cowboys
kind of started to turn around and become the Dallas Cowboys.
In that nineteen ninety draft, they were able to select EMMITTT. Smith,
But what was maybe most intriguing was they didn't have
the number one overall pick that year despite going one
(15:28):
in fifteen the previous season. And that's because in the
summer prior, in the supplemental Draft, they took Steve Walsh
from Miami.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
So it was so.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The Cowboys didn't necessarily turn things around right when Troy
Aikman came there, because Jimmy Johnson didn't really maybe want
Troy Aikman right away.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It was Steve Walsh.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But in nineteen ninety it was the start of the
Cowboys turnaround. They ended up being seven to nine that season.
That was the Super Bowl that ended up having the
Giants and Bills. But the season Phil Simms got hurt,
so Jeff Hostetler ended up taking over. I remember that
from from nineteen ninety. In the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, you mentioned Notre Dame. In nineteen ninety, rick My
Verver was their quarterback. They had rocket Ismael, Ricky Waters,
Tony Brooks. I mean, like, think about the running back room.
(16:27):
Rocket Ishmael was actually listed as a running back. They
had Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis, and Dorsey Levins all in
the same backfield.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
What that year? Yes, yes, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yes, dudes, right when Notre Dame was awesome, they had dudes.
Just don't even forget that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
There was also the other fifth down with Colorado and
Missouri Missouri.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
HOWSSURI a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Of crazy stuff with Missouri because it gives me the
opportunity to correct myself. So Nebraska was the consensus national
champion in nineteen ninety four. Penn State was tab national
championships by some outlets, but is not recognized as the
consensus national championship.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
What has that been recognized?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I know you? What I know you? I don't recognize you?
What are the national champions?
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
NAH, coaches, Poll, Associated Press, they all had Nebraska number one.
Other outlets Sagarin other one had Penn State number one
in that ninety four season. But in ninety seven it
was Nebraska and Michigan were co champions. And remember Nebraska
had the crazy kick play against Missouri to score a
touchdown late well seven years prior. Colorado got that same fortune,
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except with an extra down in their matchup against Missouri
that would have derailed their national championship hopes.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I have kind of a weird nineteen ninety story for
you guys. I spent both eighty nine, ninety and ninety
ninety one all in eighth grade. Wo I repeated eighth grade.
So eighty nine ninety was at Santiago Middle School, where
ironically my son just finished middle school last year. And
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ninety ninety one was at Yorba Middle School, which is
on the other side of Orange. And I had to
take a public bus to and from to and from
school and down Chapman Avenue, Chapman Avenue, Tustin Avenue to
go down and get off and walk up blocks to
your middle school. There you go. I was a Santana
(18:35):
and then I was at Terrero Terrero Santana and then Terrero.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And just up to fifty seven Freeway. I was graduating
from high school but before.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well Linda High School with Kevin Walker, Kevin Walker Walk.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Keith, Kevin's younger brother Google him. They were good.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But before I graduated from high school, Mike Tyson lost
his heavyweight championship to bust for Douglas. And I think
it's we always talk about these things that happened where
you knew, you know, where you were. I think that
was one of the things in sports. I don't know
how young y'all were, but I remember distinctly being on
(19:15):
a skiing trip in Big Bear and uh, we got
news that that the that Tyson wast and at that
point that was such big news because he seemed unbeatable.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Uh yeah, but it was. It was in Japan, and
I remember either waking up to it or it was
like late at night. I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I remember it was a Saturday. It was a
Saturday night, I think it was.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It was.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
I don't remember anybody actually watching the fight. No, I
just remember the news of it. However, we got News.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Sports Center, maybe Breaking In or FNN back when they
used to do sports on the weekends, the Financial News Network.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, CNN Sports right as we were CN ended sports.
So Dan Patters seeing in sports nineteen. Fred Hickman Hickdog, Hickdog,
Hickdog passed away.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah. Yeah, and Nick Charles has left us a while
ago as well.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, he was Hickdog was called when he remember he
was at ESPN for a very brief stint, and his
nickname was the sick Dog because he always called in
sick wow, sick dog. Yeah. This has had nothing to
new with the health issues that led to his death.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
There was he was the Iowa Sam of ESPN.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Okay, come on, yeh getting over COVID and it was
not fun, so had to call out sick.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
No one wants COVID around here. Do you guys want
to hear about the year in golf?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Not really right?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Want to hear about that?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Ninety was the year of Nick Faldo, who not only
won the Masters in April by beating Ray Floyd in
a lay off at Augusta National, backed it up with
a win at the Open Championship. But most notably probably
from the nineteen ninety year in golf, we all remember
the lap around eighteen at Madina Hale Irwin making that
(21:14):
long putt on the eighteenth, oh yeah, and then giving
the fans the high five, high five, yeah yep.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Ended up beating Mike Donald the.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Next Donald, Yes, yes, in an eighteen whole playoff playoff
high five. One of the lasting images of nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I had no idea the Reds won the World Series.
Was thatx Cristabo Jose Rio Joserio. But it was Chris
Sabo in the team.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
SA was on that Teamulla was the manager. Eric Davis
was on that team.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
You know, Lou put it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Eric Davis what a great like He was like the
last or one of the last like great athletes before
these new this new generation.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Of Paul O'Neil, Todd, Benzinger, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Eric Davis just said in his timing mechanism cocking that
bat to come all the way down to his based
a high knee kick, and then Chris Sable had the
Rex Specs. When I think of Loop Andella, I think,
if there's ever been a guy that represents a manager's
baseball body, it's Loopenella, right.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And it was sad that he wore like full uniform.
I never understood why managers were made to wear uniforms,
but he really didn't. The uniform did not fit the
order he got, No it fit.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
He's just fat, that's all it was. I mean, he
just he had little table stick legs and a big
old belly, and he looked like he'd be a good
guy to drink beer with, which is kind of what
a manager is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Like he's an apple on a stick, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
In the NBA Playoffs, in NBA Finals, the Portland Trailblazers, Yeah,
met the Detroit Pistons in Portland actually won Game two,
Team two this series even in the series at one apiece.
They went to Portland and then Detroit won three straight.
Vinnie Johnson clutch basket. The end of Game five wrapped
(22:56):
up the championship for the Pistons as they went back
to back.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Uh, let me see how I can do. Let me
see how I do with the Portland Trailblazers starting lineup. Okay,
Dan Kevin Duckworth ri i p as their center? Yes
they had, I mean Terry Porter was their point guard
quite obviously, Clyde Drexler, Yes, with their two guard, Jerome
(23:24):
Kersey was there. Three. And then their power forward, oh man,
like all time power forward named Buck Williams.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I think that was. Yeah, I think I think
he was on that team. I know they had swung
a deal with the New Jersey Nets to bring him in.
I think it was that season.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Off the I want to say, Danny Ainge off the bench.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah. Johnson Petrovitch I believe was a part of that
team as well.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Wow, did they upset the Wakers in the Western confer
Conference finals, because the Wakers had won two straight up
to that point, right.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I know this second? Yeah, the Lakers had one two
and then they lost to the Pistons the year before.
This is the second of the Pistons back to back
and then the next year, the Bulls started their three
peaks and.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
The next year Portland lost to the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yes, and then Portland ended up making it back in
nineteen ninety nineteen ninety two and losing to the Bulls
in that season.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But yes, yeah, I believe it was Buck Williams. I do.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I talked about this on the show, but I had
the poster of Terry Porter, Jerome Kersey and Buck Williams.
It was like them starting a fast break. It was
black and white and the full white background and all
it said was uh oh, and it was really really yeah,
really really cool.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Terry Porter, Wisconsin. Stevens point. Okay, the Pistons starting lineup,
Zeke Joe doo bars and did they did they start
Rodman or did they start?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I thought he was still coming off the bench.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But yeah, And then they had who they traded from,
Mark Orguire for what's his name?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
They traded uh, Adrian Dantley Adrian Danty.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
For Mark wire said Mark Orguire. And then they had
what Molhorne and Lambier.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yep, Sally, yeah, did you mention John Sally?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I thought johns how I came up the bench right
with Dennis Rodbin.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And Vinnie Johnson a microwave.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Microwave, Yeah, because he's.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Would he be the airfire now or would you still
be a microwave. I'm just asking because I love my Airfire.
I just want you to know if there's any sponsors
out there that want to sponsor with airfire, I have
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chicken today for lunch.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Nineteen ninety was maybe my favorite Final four as a kid.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh that's someone in Denver.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That is the one in Denver, Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yes, with you know me, the Weapon three.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Kenny Anderson, Brian Oliver, Dennis Scott. But it also featured
Arkansas and the young Lee Mayberry and Todd Day led team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Who ultimately would win a national championship in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Except with those not those participants Todd Dan Lee Mayberry
were off to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Was Scotty Scotty, Starty Thurman and court Ris Rthinson.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm wrong, you're right, I'm wrong. Good Final four.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, really good Final four.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I watched a retrospective on that Final four and the
Stacey Augman. He would always be wearing a walk man
when he would do the warm ups and stuff, and
then as walkman, he says he always played this song.
This is hold On by Wilson Phillips. It charted for
(26:50):
thirty straight weeks on the Billboard Charts. Really their only,
their only relevant single. I think they tried to do
some other songs. Dan probably knows the secondary songs, but
I remember this one released me.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I remember how hot, uh.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Hold on to one more day?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Who was in Phillips China Phillips, Oh, still looking good
these days? Married to Billy Baldwin.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Really yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Who was in a back at You tune? And really
it's universal.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Just hold on for one more you know, hold on,
just hold on like Dan Bayer before Dan Byer said it.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, it was about to say hold on.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Do you guys know? Nineteen ninety was the year I
decided I want to become a college basketball player and maybe.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Hold on, hold on perfect transition, Doug, because I wanted
to get back to college basketball.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Hold on good, hold on.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That was the year that Hank Gathers died and the
first game back, uh, they didn't play the championship game
of the WCC, and it was that Long Beach Arena.
I knew Long Beatrena well because my dad was an
assistant Lombach State. Lommycheria is right next to the the
Queen Mary and I'll never forget walked into the building
and the entire place was adorned with maroon and baby
(28:07):
blue forty four signs hanked the bank. They played New
Mexico State, coached by Lou Henson, in the first round,
and midway through the first half, Bo Kimball's best friend
was fouled and he stepped the line to shoot a
free throw, and Hank Gathers had started shooting his free
throws left handed because he couldn't make him right handed,
(28:27):
started shooting better percentage. So as a tip of the
cap to his late friend, he shot left handed, made
it three dribbles, right hand switch. She was left hand,
made it holds forty four up to the sky, and
there wasn't a dry eye in the place, and I
was like, this is what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It was also while it was an emotional time, it
was also the emergence of the Connecticut basketball program. Sure
a number one seed, and if you remember, Connecticut upset
Eldon Campbell and Clemson in the Sweet sixteen on a
baseball type pass to tat George.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Hey George in New Jersey. The old was the Continental
Airlines Arena at that time. Last meatalwlands right.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes, I think it was Scotty Burrell throw on that pass. Ye,
So Scotty Burrell throws in that pass, only to have
a two nights later, Christian Lightner start to add to
his lore, as Duke ended up knocking off Yukon with
a Lightner's own buzzer beater of his own.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
As Duke ended up going to that final four going
bait okay, I.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Was just gonna say, going back to the region you
talked about, Ohio State was in that West region and
played UNLV who played Loyal and Marymount in the regional final.
Moving on, Ohio State needed overtime to beat Providence led
by Eric Murdoch and Carlton Screen. That Providence team was
coached by Rick Barnes Alex Davis. He had a three
with three seconds left, tied at the end of regulation.
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Then the Buck guys wanted it overtime, gave the Rebels
a little bit of run for their money, but just
couldn't keep up to the aforementioned Stacy Augman and the
running reps.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
We gotta go, but we can't. We can't go without
mentioning the movies that year. I have them Home Alone,
Teenage Meeting, Ninja t Hurtles, Goodfellas, I'm gonna go at
the papers, Get the papers. Ghost was the number.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
One movie internationally and domestically. It was Home Alone.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Uh, Pretty woman, Hollywood Baby, what's your dream? Forty eight hours?
I mean you want to talk about all time year
for movies total recall onload Schwartzenega nineteen ninety was what
a year in movies?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You in danger girl?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
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what two hours away from the college football Playoff reaching
it semi finals. Penn State and No Tra Dame DK
joins us. Of course, the longtime NFL quarterback and started
in the NFL, and the Florida State great uh, Notre
Dame and Penn State Not Dame, Penn State. This there's
(31:40):
a little Spider Man meme to it. There isn't isn't there?
Danny right, Like, here's here's two programs unbelievable seventies and
eighties and nineties have had have had some time in
which they've been well regarded since then, but have never
been able to beat any of the elite teams in
college football. This this feels like Spider Man meme, does it?
Speaker 8 (32:01):
I love that analogy, and Doug, I think it even
goes more than the programs themselves. It kind of goes
to the type of game they both want to play.
Like they're both defensive dominant teams. The quarterbacks are different styles,
but I don't think you're gonna get confused either one
with like a you know, a pass there that's just
a pass happy offense, like they both want to run
the football and like they're very very similar. Programs haven't
(32:25):
had national titles since the eighties. That's a great way
to describe it. I love the way you put that
out there. I might steal that and use that.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's all yours. It's all yours and if you want
to give me credit. Cool. By the way, Danny Julius
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Speaker 8 (32:52):
I actually like Penn State in this game slightly. My
favorite playing the game is the under forty five and
a half. I just think it's going to be a
rock five. Like I think these both these defenses are outstanding.
I think both of them are going to be able
to control the run games on the ground. And again,
like I said, I don't think either quarterback strikes a
lot of fearing you as far as big play capability,
and I think that might be the difference in the game.
(33:14):
And the reason I like Penn State slightly is because
of the offensive weapon of Tyler Warren, who is probably
the best offensive threat on the field as the tight
end for Penn State, won the Mackie Award. But he's
way more than a tight end. Like he is a
guy they use at wide receiver. They'll put him in
the backfield next to Drew Aller, They'll put him in
the wildcat, let him run it or throw it from
(33:35):
that position. He is just a Swiss Army knife. And
Andy Koltonnicki, the offensive coordinator for Penn State, has had
a field day. I have a feeling he's going to
dial up just a couple of plays that might be
the difference in this one. So I think in a
lower scoring affair, I like Penn State just slightly, ever
so slightly more than I do notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Stet Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, some
people view the other game as the varsity game. That's
because you got Ohio State taken on Texas. Texas has
two losses, both to Georgia on the year, and well
then we got Ohio State, and we saw High State
(34:13):
come back from losing to Oregon, losing to Michigan and
they mollywomp Tennessee and Mollywomp to Oregon who you like.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
It's been one of the most bizarre things I've seen,
Like not bizarre, but just like hard to explain how
a team could be as bad as losing to Michigan.
Michigan is not a very good football team, and I
think it's all mental like at that point, because they
have more talent. They have all these offensive skill players,
and I don't know if Brian Day was trying to
prove a point in saying, hey, we can match physicality
with Michigan and we're going to try to run it
(34:45):
right down their throat. Well that didn't work and it
was a disaster, and then he's on the hot seat.
But it kind of galvanized the team and it woke
them up. But I think even more importantly, it was
one of those things where both side the football Jim
Noles the defensive court a for Ohio State, and then
in the offensive side of the ball with Chip Kelly,
they were like, you know what, screw that game plan, Like,
(35:06):
why are we trying to bang our heads in the wall.
Let's utilize all this talent we have on both sides.
And they've been aggressive, they've been getting after opponents with
blitzes and bringing pressures, and it's worked on offense. They've
come out of both these gates, you know, both these
last two games, they've come out scorching hot, and then
once then like the other team gets behind, they have
to start throwing it. And they've just absolutely annihilated their opponents.
(35:30):
So Texas's biggest challenge for me, it's slowing down this
freight train, which I do. I feel like I could
be stepping in front of a locomotive, but I do
like Texas with the points. I also think maybe I'm
just trying to will a close game in existence because
you know, we've seen a lot of blowouts in this one.
But I will remind people that Texas did go to
ann Arbor and play that Michigan team and dominate them.
(35:51):
It was it was Texas's best performance on the season,
and then of course we saw what happened with Michigan
into Ohio State in the shoe. I think Texas in
order to keep this game close, to keep it inside
that number, it's got to be defensive led. But that's
the good news because Texas has the number three scoring
defense in the country, and I do think they have
the secondary specifically to slow down Jeremiah Smith and Mecca Vuca.
(36:14):
They do have John A. Barron, who's the best defensive
back in the country, and a safety and Michael taff
and others who are going to patrol that center field,
and I think they're going to play more of a bend,
don't break style of defense where they don't give up
that big play which Ohio State has really thrived on.
Force him in the red zone, try to get field goals,
which I think are victories against this Ohio State offense,
and they kind of slow the game down, try to
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take away Ohio State's momentum that they come into this
game with.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Do you think that works?
Speaker 8 (36:41):
I do? I think I do. And I also think
that Quinn Ewers is probably one of the most scrutinized
players in the country, and he's been, you know, given
such a hard time, but he's had huge moments in
big games last year in Alabama in Tuscaloosa, huge game,
made big time throws last week against Arizona State, season
on the line, his career on the line, fourth and thirteen,
(37:03):
steps up and makes a big play in that one.
They've got some weapons too. Matthew Golden has stepped up
in Isaiah Bond's absence as their lead receiver. I think
that Goll comes down to can they run the football
with Wisner in the backfield. But this offensive line is
the one to me, Doug that has to step up
to the challenge. And they are one of more talented groups,
and they've dominated at times. They just have not played
(37:23):
four quarters of an entire season. I think they're going
to be focused to have their best performance, rise to
the occasion and meet it. So I like Ohio State
to win the game by a field goal, but five
and a half or six points where you can get
at some places, is too many points for me.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I do want to ask you, Danny Canellen joining us
some half a bed online. I know we're talking a
lot college football playoffs. You made the transition from college
to the pros. You've done draft analysis. It feels like
there's only cam Ward and Shador Sanders's first round draft picks.
If you were drafting, which one of those two would
you prefer to run your franchise.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
That's a great so there are two totally different quarterbacks
as well. Shador Standers is like NFL ready, he's been
playing with Pat Shermer, who's you know, an former NFL coach,
was his offensive coordinator at Colorado. He's really good decision
maker in the pocket. But the trend has been and
I think I'm a little bit more of a risk
taker of the trend, and the trend from NFL teams too,
(38:21):
has been looked for the upside. Cam Ward has more
upside like and it's not even close. He's a better athlete,
he's got better escapability, he's got a stronger arm. But
his film is a little bit clunky because he does
take a lot of risks, like he takes some you know,
crazy you know, throws like back against his body. It's miraculous.
It looks like a great today. Other times it can
(38:42):
get him in a lot of trouble and he throws picks.
But I probably go with cam Ward. I will say
it though, bother just to it. We overdraft, and I
say we like the NFL overcasts quarterbacks all the time.
They're probably Go one or two. But like in a
normal scenario where you didn't have teams so esperate for quarterbacks,
I think it's probably like you know, into late the
(39:04):
first round quarterbacks. It's like from a value stample of it.
But I do think if I was going to take one,
I would go with cam Ward and go with that
upside that he brings, because I do think Chador is
like the upside for the arm talent. He's got addequate
arm strength. Not great. He's got a capability, but it
doesn't really I can if you get exposed a little
bit more. Cam Ward makes some plays a little bit
(39:26):
similar to the Jade Daniels Caleb Williams style of player,
where I think Chador is more of than Bonnick, where
if you get him in the right system like Bonnicks
work like work perfectly a keyboard, he maybe make some
mistakes if it's not perfect confidensive line, he can get
you out of some trouble.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Danny Cannell, of course longtime college football analysts. He played
quarterback for a long time in the NFL and a
start at Floridas State. He join us in behalf a
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and two thousand, tw twenty five Heisman odds DK. You're
the best man. Happy New Year to you. Thanks for
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joining us appreciated.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Doug, always great catching up, enjoy the games.
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heard this before. But the Raiders did something weird today.
Ah stop, here as were But the Raiders did what
(00:49):
the Raiders do and they fired my good friend Tom
teleusco less than a year on the job. Uh yeah,
I guess I'm supposed to be surprised, But why would
I actually be surprised at the Raiders? Right? Why would
actually be surprised? And I get it whoever they're hiring
(01:11):
as a head coach, Like you know, there's a world
there where had Bill Belichick had any desire to consider
working for the Raiders as their head coach. And I again,
there's various supports that people called, and he has said
he's not interested, but he would have wanted his own guy,
and many people want their own guy. But that's a
(01:33):
I gotta say. I gotta tell you if you look
at I mean, he drafted one first round pick, it
was Block Powers any good And maybe you could say, hey,
block Powers was going to be good regardless whoever drafted it.
But he was good. And you know, he got something
(01:57):
for DeVante Adams who didn't want to be a Raider.
They didn't go and draft some quarterback who's stunk. They
just stood pat for a year, knowing that this was
ultimately coming, did the best they could. And am I
defending him because he's a friend of mine? Sure? Am
I defending him because I thought he actually did a
good job with Chargers. Sure, and he comes from good stock. Again,
(02:19):
if we're actually real about it. My conversations with Tom
last year, he's like, look, I was eleven years with
the Chargers. Most times you lose a job, you're never
getting back to that level. He was stunned even got
the job but if you get the guy the job,
why don't you don't let him go through one cycle?
Strikes me as really odd. It is odd, you know why,
(02:40):
because it's the Raiders, right, Because it's the Raiders. And
many of the things that both Mark and Al have
done are ahead of the curve. Right. They were the
first to move to la and try and get a
stadium done when they couldn't get their stadium deal done
in Oakland. Now you go back to the eighties and
(03:01):
that was huge groundbreaking stuff. Of course, Al, with his
ties to USC it did make a lot of sense.
He was the first to hire a black head coach.
He has he has, he has been He was a trailblazer.
Mark was the first to offer a coach and sign
a coach to one hundred million dollar deal. Again, all
(03:23):
of this is out of the curve. And they fired
coaches one year in, they fired general managers early on
their tenures. They fired lots of different people. So some
of the things that are being done the Raiders have
actually done before. But you get to a level of
dysfunction where it doesn't matter who it is, no one
can succeed. When it's a turnstylet head coach and a
(03:45):
gentle manager. Right, no one, no one can succeed. So
I don't have to apologize for Tom's record this year
or what happened with the Chargers, or the fact that
you are better this year than last year. I think
all of us, I mean, especially me and Jason, we
weren't big Brandon Staley guys, and Staley did make the
(04:08):
playoffs two years previously. They did have a big lead,
and they did succumb to a Jacks comeback. And you know,
it's funny I said this to a buddy of mine, like,
you know, here's the difference in pr Brandon Staley goes
for it, doesn't get it. He's an idiot. Dan Campbell
goes for it, doesn't get it, and he's the greatest
dude ever. He's Captain America. But that's what winning does,
(04:32):
especially winning in the playoffs, and the Chargers haven't done that.
But in the least surprising news ever, the Raiders do
something that they didn't have to do just because their
owner decided to do it. And my guess is this
in some way relates to Tom Brady and Tom Brady
going like, yeah, do you want my suggestions? Sure, you
want my money. Okay, well my suggestions have to come
(04:54):
to life. And he doesn't have a relationship that much
with Tullusco. I know Tellusco talked to him when Brady
was a free agent, and it seems like whoever they
focus on hiring, they're going to want a GM to
marry with him instead of allowing Tom tell Us go to.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Hire a coach.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay, it's your choice, but when you have this much turnover,
this much of a turnstile, that's what ends up happening,
and the chances for success are remote, are remote. You
have to have a consistency, a consistent voice, give a guy,
(05:32):
give somebody a chance to build. And that's not the
choice about Mark Davis. And Mark Davis has every right
to make that choice, but we also have every right
to go. This is the Raiders being the raiders. There
is no more raid or move than firing the GM,
firing the head coach, and then firing the GM a
(05:52):
day later after letting everybody know the GM was safe.
I don't know what Tom to us goes list look
like as far as head coach head coaches he wanted,
but maybe Mark didn't like that. If you had to
say what's a weird franchise? And you took a look
at Mark Davis, you go, it looks that doesn't look normal.
(06:16):
That terrible haircut, that copy of a copy with the
evil can Eevil suit, that constant changing of coaches, that
constant changing of gms. That doesn't feel like everything else
in the NFL. And it doesn't. So I don't know.
I'd be fascinating to see what happens now. Is there
(06:36):
a world where they go back to Gruden because now
Gruden apparently is a candidate again. I don't know, but
I do know that that this is just a very
Raiders esque move. Fairers, this move. It's Doug Gottlieb Show
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Speaker 3 (07:24):
It sure seems that in the NFL that GMS, and
I know its Alasco wasn't a ford of this opportunity,
but it almost seems like they get at most two
bytes at the apple nowadays. And there seems to be
a time there was a time in the NFL where
the general manager was the general manager. The general manager
(07:45):
would hire the head coach and the coach would hire
the staff, and if that didn't work out, coach and
staff would leave and that general manager would hire another
head coach. And there was always this almost hierarchy doug
of power owner, general manager, head coach. But general managers
would get, you know, three bites at the apple really
in terms of the coaches, the staff, and if two
(08:07):
didn't work out, strike three was you're out. And now
there seems to be this just everything has got to
be partnered and in lockstep. And I even found it
funny in Tennessee when Ran Carthon got ran earlier this
week and they're keeping Brian Callahan, and I think that
(08:27):
Brian Callahan is gonna be a good head coach. They're
gonna have the first overall pick, but you're then bringing
in a GM that didn't hire him, and so now
the like the level of trying to succeed is I
don't want to say it's almost unattainable, but it's up there,
and it just doesn't like things don't match up anymore,
(08:48):
and it seems like we need this, we need either
it be head coach in GM and that's the only
way it's gonna work. But you know, these days of
gms being able to hire two and three head coaches
just not what it is anymore. And in a way,
like I guess I could see what the Raiders are
doing because they maybe want their head coach and GM
to be on the same page. But man, it's just
(09:09):
not like it was anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's really weird to have that dynamic,
you know, to have a GM who didn't hire the
coach you know, or yeah, it's just it's very very odd.
Usually they're tied at the hip, tied at that lately,
I would say it more so than you think. And look,
it's like that for uh, Look, coaches hire other coaches
(09:35):
who they work with before coaches bring in players who
they've coached before. At my level, you know, you're ad.
You're tied to your AD and to your president. You know,
they shared the same vision. So I think maybe we
study it more. And again, I don't have historical knowledge
of what happened in the nineties and maybe early two
(09:56):
thousands or whatever when we first started this, but I
would gen say, last twenty years I've been doing this,
it's more often than not, is that fair?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I think it's a recent I would say the last
decade or so. So someone like like Aj Smith, who
was there before Telesco was, yes, had a you know,
I had a decade with the with the Chargers. Heck,
even Telesco and his last gig was maybe one of
the the rare ones that was allowed to actually be
(10:26):
the GM. But I just felt that it was Now
everything is so urgent, everything is such a quick turnaround,
and there's you know, I'm trying to think of other
examples popping up in my head, but I just don't
I remember when. Obviously, Mike Holmgren wanted GM powers right,
so that's why he left Green Bay. And I'm using
(10:49):
the Seahawks as an example because Pete Carroll and John
Schneider were kind of that, and now you know that's
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Boy, all time flies.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
But that seems to be like the where Carol had
final say but Schneider had his own sort of deal
like that. To me, it was kind of like the
impetus of it, like the start of this is, hey,
he's going to be coming in as the head coach,
but he's going to have significant power and final say
on the roster and whatnot. I just felt like there
was this era before that that that wasn't the case,
(11:17):
and now it's just everything is tied and having this
one cohesive unit. And I'm not even sure if that's
the best way to go because you're throwing everything out.
At least, you know, Jacksonville decided, all right, whether you
like Trent Balky or not, we're going to let him
make the decision. And Seon Codd said, don't throw the
baby out with the bath water. So just a different
(11:37):
time in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Has anybody actually ever thrown the baby out with the bathwater?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I have no no.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh, well, what part of is we don't throw the
bathwater out now, we let it down the drain. But
I just I did wonder if anybody's actually ever thrown
the baby out with the actual bathwater, that would be weird.
That would be weird.
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I would say three really big college football fans on
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Dan Bayer, and myself gigantic college football fans. And the
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One of my favorite things is a game or a
segment I guess that Jase Dou has come up with,
and look, full disclosure, I know that Jay s Dou
really wants to get to the FMDJ element of this
where he gets to talk about the hot songs from
the given year. But we do this kind of as
a tip of the cap or maybe even kind of
a sneer at the idea of throwback Thursday, and we
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call it. Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Don't call it.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
A throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
All right there, Jay Su, what's the year that we're
not calling it a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
For Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I was going through some matchups of Penn State and
Notre Dame over the years, shy Jack, they played each
other in nineteen ninety. Yes, so think about nineteen ninety
Think about where you were, what you were doing, and
what happened in sports and otherwise in that game, particularly
(14:19):
Notre Dame and Penn State were both very highly ranked
and they played each other and it was a really
good game. And I guess what ended up happening in
that college football year was that there was another sports championship,
right it was? Was it Georgia Tech and Colorado sharing
(14:41):
a national championship? Ti Dettmer won the Heisman Trophy. Man
those awards were all over the Mountain time zone. I'm
just noting that. I wonder if they refer to nineteen
ninety as the year of the Mountain time Zone. Colorado
shares a national championship, Ti Deptmer wins the Heisman Trophy.
Wonderful year for college football, Dan, anything that strikes out
(15:05):
to you football wise from nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You know, it was a crazy year in the NFL,
but it was really the year where the Dallas Cowboys
kind of started to turn around and become the Dallas Cowboys.
In that nineteen ninety draft, they were able to select EMMITTT. Smith,
But what was maybe most intriguing was they didn't have
the number one overall pick that year despite going one
(15:28):
in fifteen the previous season. And that's because in the
summer prior, in the supplemental Draft, they took Steve Walsh
from Miami.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
So it was so.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The Cowboys didn't necessarily turn things around right when Troy
Aikman came there, because Jimmy Johnson didn't really maybe want
Troy Aikman right away.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It was Steve Walsh.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But in nineteen ninety it was the start of the
Cowboys turnaround. They ended up being seven to nine that season.
That was the Super Bowl that ended up having the
Giants and Bills. But the season Phil Simms got hurt,
so Jeff Hostetler ended up taking over. I remember that
from from nineteen ninety. In the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, you mentioned Notre Dame. In nineteen ninety, rick My
Verver was their quarterback. They had rocket Ismael, Ricky Waters,
Tony Brooks. I mean, like, think about the running back room.
(16:27):
Rocket Ishmael was actually listed as a running back. They
had Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis, and Dorsey Levins all in
the same backfield.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
What that year? Yes, yes, holy crap.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yes, dudes, right when Notre Dame was awesome, they had dudes.
Just don't even forget that.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
There was also the other fifth down with Colorado and
Missouri Missouri.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
HOWSSURI a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Of crazy stuff with Missouri because it gives me the
opportunity to correct myself. So Nebraska was the consensus national
champion in nineteen ninety four. Penn State was tab national
championships by some outlets, but is not recognized as the
consensus national championship.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
What has that been recognized?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I know you? What I know you? I don't recognize you?
What are the national champions?
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
NAH, coaches, Poll, Associated Press, they all had Nebraska number one.
Other outlets Sagarin other one had Penn State number one
in that ninety four season. But in ninety seven it
was Nebraska and Michigan were co champions. And remember Nebraska
had the crazy kick play against Missouri to score a
touchdown late well seven years prior. Colorado got that same fortune,
(17:44):
except with an extra down in their matchup against Missouri
that would have derailed their national championship hopes.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I have kind of a weird nineteen ninety story for
you guys. I spent both eighty nine, ninety and ninety
ninety one all in eighth grade. Wo I repeated eighth grade.
So eighty nine ninety was at Santiago Middle School, where
ironically my son just finished middle school last year. And
(18:14):
ninety ninety one was at Yorba Middle School, which is
on the other side of Orange. And I had to
take a public bus to and from to and from
school and down Chapman Avenue, Chapman Avenue, Tustin Avenue to
go down and get off and walk up blocks to
your middle school. There you go. I was a Santana
(18:35):
and then I was at Terrero Terrero Santana and then Terrero.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And just up to fifty seven Freeway. I was graduating
from high school but before.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well Linda High School with Kevin Walker, Kevin Walker Walk.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Keith, Kevin's younger brother Google him. They were good.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But before I graduated from high school, Mike Tyson lost
his heavyweight championship to bust for Douglas. And I think
it's we always talk about these things that happened where
you knew, you know, where you were. I think that
was one of the things in sports. I don't know
how young y'all were, but I remember distinctly being on
(19:15):
a skiing trip in Big Bear and uh, we got
news that that the that Tyson wast and at that
point that was such big news because he seemed unbeatable.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Uh yeah, but it was. It was in Japan, and
I remember either waking up to it or it was
like late at night. I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I remember it was a Saturday. It was a
Saturday night, I think it was.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It was.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
I don't remember anybody actually watching the fight. No, I
just remember the news of it. However, we got News.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Sports Center, maybe Breaking In or FNN back when they
used to do sports on the weekends, the Financial News Network.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, CNN Sports right as we were CN ended sports.
So Dan Patters seeing in sports nineteen. Fred Hickman Hickdog, Hickdog,
Hickdog passed away.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah. Yeah, and Nick Charles has left us a while
ago as well.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, he was Hickdog was called when he remember he
was at ESPN for a very brief stint, and his
nickname was the sick Dog because he always called in
sick wow, sick dog. Yeah. This has had nothing to
new with the health issues that led to his death.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
There was he was the Iowa Sam of ESPN.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Okay, come on, yeh getting over COVID and it was
not fun, so had to call out sick.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
No one wants COVID around here. Do you guys want
to hear about the year in golf?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Not really right?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Want to hear about that?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Ninety was the year of Nick Faldo, who not only
won the Masters in April by beating Ray Floyd in
a lay off at Augusta National, backed it up with
a win at the Open Championship. But most notably probably
from the nineteen ninety year in golf, we all remember
the lap around eighteen at Madina Hale Irwin making that
(21:14):
long putt on the eighteenth, oh yeah, and then giving
the fans the high five, high five, yeah yep.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Ended up beating Mike Donald the.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Next Donald, Yes, yes, in an eighteen whole playoff playoff
high five. One of the lasting images of nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I had no idea the Reds won the World Series.
Was thatx Cristabo Jose Rio Joserio. But it was Chris
Sabo in the team.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
SA was on that Teamulla was the manager. Eric Davis
was on that team.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
You know, Lou put it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Eric Davis what a great like He was like the
last or one of the last like great athletes before
these new this new generation.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Of Paul O'Neil, Todd, Benzinger, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Eric Davis just said in his timing mechanism cocking that
bat to come all the way down to his based
a high knee kick, and then Chris Sable had the
Rex Specs. When I think of Loop Andella, I think,
if there's ever been a guy that represents a manager's
baseball body, it's Loopenella, right.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And it was sad that he wore like full uniform.
I never understood why managers were made to wear uniforms,
but he really didn't. The uniform did not fit the
order he got, No it fit.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
He's just fat, that's all it was. I mean, he
just he had little table stick legs and a big
old belly, and he looked like he'd be a good
guy to drink beer with, which is kind of what
a manager is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Like he's an apple on a stick, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
In the NBA Playoffs, in NBA Finals, the Portland Trailblazers, Yeah,
met the Detroit Pistons in Portland actually won Game two,
Team two this series even in the series at one apiece.
They went to Portland and then Detroit won three straight.
Vinnie Johnson clutch basket. The end of Game five wrapped
(22:56):
up the championship for the Pistons as they went back
to back.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Uh, let me see how I can do. Let me
see how I do with the Portland Trailblazers starting lineup. Okay,
Dan Kevin Duckworth ri i p as their center? Yes
they had, I mean Terry Porter was their point guard
quite obviously, Clyde Drexler, Yes, with their two guard, Jerome
(23:24):
Kersey was there. Three. And then their power forward, oh man,
like all time power forward named Buck Williams.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I think that was. Yeah, I think I think
he was on that team. I know they had swung
a deal with the New Jersey Nets to bring him in.
I think it was that season.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Off the I want to say, Danny Ainge off the bench.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah. Johnson Petrovitch I believe was a part of that
team as well.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Wow, did they upset the Wakers in the Western confer
Conference finals, because the Wakers had won two straight up
to that point, right.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I know this second? Yeah, the Lakers had one two
and then they lost to the Pistons the year before.
This is the second of the Pistons back to back
and then the next year, the Bulls started their three
peaks and.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
The next year Portland lost to the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yes, and then Portland ended up making it back in
nineteen ninety nineteen ninety two and losing to the Bulls
in that season.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But yes, yeah, I believe it was Buck Williams. I do.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I talked about this on the show, but I had
the poster of Terry Porter, Jerome Kersey and Buck Williams.
It was like them starting a fast break. It was
black and white and the full white background and all
it said was uh oh, and it was really really yeah,
really really cool.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Terry Porter, Wisconsin. Stevens point. Okay, the Pistons starting lineup,
Zeke Joe doo bars and did they did they start
Rodman or did they start?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I thought he was still coming off the bench.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But yeah, And then they had who they traded from,
Mark Orguire for what's his name?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
They traded uh, Adrian Dantley Adrian Danty.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
For Mark wire said Mark Orguire. And then they had
what Molhorne and Lambier.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yep, Sally, yeah, did you mention John Sally?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I thought johns how I came up the bench right
with Dennis Rodbin.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And Vinnie Johnson a microwave.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Microwave, Yeah, because he's.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Would he be the airfire now or would you still
be a microwave. I'm just asking because I love my Airfire.
I just want you to know if there's any sponsors
out there that want to sponsor with airfire, I have
one that's really good. I mean it's some airfire fried
chicken today for lunch.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Nineteen ninety was maybe my favorite Final four as a kid.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh that's someone in Denver.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That is the one in Denver, Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yes, with you know me, the Weapon three.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Kenny Anderson, Brian Oliver, Dennis Scott. But it also featured
Arkansas and the young Lee Mayberry and Todd Day led team.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Who ultimately would win a national championship in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Except with those not those participants Todd Dan Lee Mayberry
were off to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Was Scotty Scotty, Starty Thurman and court Ris Rthinson.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm wrong, you're right, I'm wrong. Good Final four.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, really good Final four.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I watched a retrospective on that Final four and the
Stacey Augman. He would always be wearing a walk man
when he would do the warm ups and stuff, and
then as walkman, he says he always played this song.
This is hold On by Wilson Phillips. It charted for
(26:50):
thirty straight weeks on the Billboard Charts. Really their only,
their only relevant single. I think they tried to do
some other songs. Dan probably knows the secondary songs, but
I remember this one released me.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I remember how hot, uh.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Hold on to one more day?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Who was in Phillips China Phillips, Oh, still looking good
these days? Married to Billy Baldwin.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Really yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Who was in a back at You tune? And really
it's universal.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Just hold on for one more you know, hold on,
just hold on like Dan Bayer before Dan Byer said it.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, it was about to say hold on.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Do you guys know? Nineteen ninety was the year I
decided I want to become a college basketball player and maybe.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Hold on, hold on perfect transition, Doug, because I wanted
to get back to college basketball.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Hold on good, hold on.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That was the year that Hank Gathers died and the
first game back, uh, they didn't play the championship game
of the WCC, and it was that Long Beach Arena.
I knew Long Beatrena well because my dad was an
assistant Lombach State. Lommycheria is right next to the the
Queen Mary and I'll never forget walked into the building
and the entire place was adorned with maroon and baby
(28:07):
blue forty four signs hanked the bank. They played New
Mexico State, coached by Lou Henson, in the first round,
and midway through the first half, Bo Kimball's best friend
was fouled and he stepped the line to shoot a
free throw, and Hank Gathers had started shooting his free
throws left handed because he couldn't make him right handed,
(28:27):
started shooting better percentage. So as a tip of the
cap to his late friend, he shot left handed, made
it three dribbles, right hand switch. She was left hand,
made it holds forty four up to the sky, and
there wasn't a dry eye in the place, and I
was like, this is what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It was also while it was an emotional time, it
was also the emergence of the Connecticut basketball program. Sure
a number one seed, and if you remember, Connecticut upset
Eldon Campbell and Clemson in the Sweet sixteen on a
baseball type pass to tat George.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Hey George in New Jersey. The old was the Continental
Airlines Arena at that time. Last meatalwlands right.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes, I think it was Scotty Burrell throw on that pass. Ye,
So Scotty Burrell throws in that pass, only to have
a two nights later, Christian Lightner start to add to
his lore, as Duke ended up knocking off Yukon with
a Lightner's own buzzer beater of his own.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
As Duke ended up going to that final four going
bait okay, I.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Was just gonna say, going back to the region you
talked about, Ohio State was in that West region and
played UNLV who played Loyal and Marymount in the regional final.
Moving on, Ohio State needed overtime to beat Providence led
by Eric Murdoch and Carlton Screen. That Providence team was
coached by Rick Barnes Alex Davis. He had a three
with three seconds left, tied at the end of regulation.
(29:49):
Then the Buck guys wanted it overtime, gave the Rebels
a little bit of run for their money, but just
couldn't keep up to the aforementioned Stacy Augman and the
running reps.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
We gotta go, but we can't. We can't go without
mentioning the movies that year. I have them Home Alone,
Teenage Meeting, Ninja t Hurtles, Goodfellas, I'm gonna go at
the papers, Get the papers. Ghost was the number.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
One movie internationally and domestically. It was Home Alone.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Uh, Pretty woman, Hollywood Baby, what's your dream? Forty eight hours?
I mean you want to talk about all time year
for movies total recall onload Schwartzenega nineteen ninety was what
a year in movies?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You in danger girl?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
What an absolutelyear that is? Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Don't call it a throwback.
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plus free shipping. Danny Canal joins us, we are near
what two hours away from the college football Playoff reaching
it semi finals. Penn State and No Tra Dame DK
joins us. Of course, the longtime NFL quarterback and started
in the NFL, and the Florida State great uh, Notre
Dame and Penn State Not Dame, Penn State. This there's
(31:40):
a little Spider Man meme to it. There isn't isn't there?
Danny right, Like, here's here's two programs unbelievable seventies and
eighties and nineties have had have had some time in
which they've been well regarded since then, but have never
been able to beat any of the elite teams in
college football. This this feels like Spider Man meme, does it?
Speaker 8 (32:01):
I love that analogy, and Doug, I think it even
goes more than the programs themselves. It kind of goes
to the type of game they both want to play.
Like they're both defensive dominant teams. The quarterbacks are different styles,
but I don't think you're gonna get confused either one
with like a you know, a pass there that's just
a pass happy offense, like they both want to run
the football and like they're very very similar. Programs haven't
(32:25):
had national titles since the eighties. That's a great way
to describe it. I love the way you put that
out there. I might steal that and use that.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's all yours. It's all yours and if you want
to give me credit. Cool. By the way, Danny Julius
on half behalf of bet on line. You got bet
online for semi final lines, look ahead lines as possible
finals matchups College Wall title game MVPs in twenty twenty five,
heis knots okay with that said, what do you like?
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I actually like Penn State in this game slightly. My
favorite playing the game is the under forty five and
a half. I just think it's going to be a
rock five. Like I think these both these defenses are outstanding.
I think both of them are going to be able
to control the run games on the ground. And again,
like I said, I don't think either quarterback strikes a
lot of fearing you as far as big play capability,
and I think that might be the difference in the game.
(33:14):
And the reason I like Penn State slightly is because
of the offensive weapon of Tyler Warren, who is probably
the best offensive threat on the field as the tight
end for Penn State, won the Mackie Award. But he's
way more than a tight end. Like he is a
guy they use at wide receiver. They'll put him in
the backfield next to Drew Aller, They'll put him in
the wildcat, let him run it or throw it from
(33:35):
that position. He is just a Swiss Army knife. And
Andy Koltonnicki, the offensive coordinator for Penn State, has had
a field day. I have a feeling he's going to
dial up just a couple of plays that might be
the difference in this one. So I think in a
lower scoring affair, I like Penn State just slightly, ever
so slightly more than I do notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Stet Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, some
people view the other game as the varsity game. That's
because you got Ohio State taken on Texas. Texas has
two losses, both to Georgia on the year, and well
then we got Ohio State, and we saw High State
(34:13):
come back from losing to Oregon, losing to Michigan and
they mollywomp Tennessee and Mollywomp to Oregon who you like.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
It's been one of the most bizarre things I've seen,
Like not bizarre, but just like hard to explain how
a team could be as bad as losing to Michigan.
Michigan is not a very good football team, and I
think it's all mental like at that point, because they
have more talent. They have all these offensive skill players,
and I don't know if Brian Day was trying to
prove a point in saying, hey, we can match physicality
with Michigan and we're going to try to run it
(34:45):
right down their throat. Well that didn't work and it
was a disaster, and then he's on the hot seat.
But it kind of galvanized the team and it woke
them up. But I think even more importantly, it was
one of those things where both side the football Jim
Noles the defensive court a for Ohio State, and then
in the offensive side of the ball with Chip Kelly,
they were like, you know what, screw that game plan, Like,
(35:06):
why are we trying to bang our heads in the wall.
Let's utilize all this talent we have on both sides.
And they've been aggressive, they've been getting after opponents with
blitzes and bringing pressures, and it's worked on offense. They've
come out of both these gates, you know, both these
last two games, they've come out scorching hot, and then
once then like the other team gets behind, they have
to start throwing it. And they've just absolutely annihilated their opponents.
(35:30):
So Texas's biggest challenge for me, it's slowing down this
freight train, which I do. I feel like I could
be stepping in front of a locomotive, but I do
like Texas with the points. I also think maybe I'm
just trying to will a close game in existence because
you know, we've seen a lot of blowouts in this one.
But I will remind people that Texas did go to
ann Arbor and play that Michigan team and dominate them.
(35:51):
It was it was Texas's best performance on the season,
and then of course we saw what happened with Michigan
into Ohio State in the shoe. I think Texas in
order to keep this game close, to keep it inside
that number, it's got to be defensive led. But that's
the good news because Texas has the number three scoring
defense in the country, and I do think they have
the secondary specifically to slow down Jeremiah Smith and Mecca Vuca.
(36:14):
They do have John A. Barron, who's the best defensive
back in the country, and a safety and Michael taff
and others who are going to patrol that center field,
and I think they're going to play more of a bend,
don't break style of defense where they don't give up
that big play which Ohio State has really thrived on.
Force him in the red zone, try to get field goals,
which I think are victories against this Ohio State offense,
and they kind of slow the game down, try to
(36:35):
take away Ohio State's momentum that they come into this
game with.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Do you think that works?
Speaker 8 (36:41):
I do? I think I do. And I also think
that Quinn Ewers is probably one of the most scrutinized
players in the country, and he's been, you know, given
such a hard time, but he's had huge moments in
big games last year in Alabama in Tuscaloosa, huge game,
made big time throws last week against Arizona State, season
on the line, his career on the line, fourth and thirteen,
(37:03):
steps up and makes a big play in that one.
They've got some weapons too. Matthew Golden has stepped up
in Isaiah Bond's absence as their lead receiver. I think
that Goll comes down to can they run the football
with Wisner in the backfield. But this offensive line is
the one to me, Doug that has to step up
to the challenge. And they are one of more talented groups,
and they've dominated at times. They just have not played
(37:23):
four quarters of an entire season. I think they're going
to be focused to have their best performance, rise to
the occasion and meet it. So I like Ohio State
to win the game by a field goal, but five
and a half or six points where you can get
at some places, is too many points for me.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I do want to ask you, Danny Canellen joining us
some half a bed online. I know we're talking a
lot college football playoffs. You made the transition from college
to the pros. You've done draft analysis. It feels like
there's only cam Ward and Shador Sanders's first round draft picks.
If you were drafting, which one of those two would
you prefer to run your franchise.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
That's a great so there are two totally different quarterbacks
as well. Shador Standers is like NFL ready, he's been
playing with Pat Shermer, who's you know, an former NFL coach,
was his offensive coordinator at Colorado. He's really good decision
maker in the pocket. But the trend has been and
I think I'm a little bit more of a risk
taker of the trend, and the trend from NFL teams too,
(38:21):
has been looked for the upside. Cam Ward has more
upside like and it's not even close. He's a better athlete,
he's got better escapability, he's got a stronger arm. But
his film is a little bit clunky because he does
take a lot of risks, like he takes some you know,
crazy you know, throws like back against his body. It's miraculous.
It looks like a great today. Other times it can
(38:42):
get him in a lot of trouble and he throws picks.
But I probably go with cam Ward. I will say
it though, bother just to it. We overdraft, and I
say we like the NFL overcasts quarterbacks all the time.
They're probably Go one or two. But like in a
normal scenario where you didn't have teams so esperate for quarterbacks,
I think it's probably like you know, into late the
(39:04):
first round quarterbacks. It's like from a value stample of it.
But I do think if I was going to take one,
I would go with cam Ward and go with that
upside that he brings, because I do think Chador is
like the upside for the arm talent. He's got addequate
arm strength. Not great. He's got a capability, but it
doesn't really I can if you get exposed a little
bit more. Cam Ward makes some plays a little bit
(39:26):
similar to the Jade Daniels Caleb Williams style of player,
where I think Chador is more of than Bonnick, where
if you get him in the right system like Bonnicks
work like work perfectly a keyboard, he maybe make some
mistakes if it's not perfect confidensive line, he can get
you out of some trouble.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Danny Cannell, of course longtime college football analysts. He played
quarterback for a long time in the NFL and a
start at Floridas State. He join us in behalf a
bet online. Check got bet online for semi final game lines,
look aheadlines and possible finals matchups, collegetball title game MVPs
and two thousand, tw twenty five Heisman odds DK. You're
the best man. Happy New Year to you. Thanks for
(40:03):
joining us appreciated.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Doug, always great catching up, enjoy the games.
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