January 13, 2025 • 55 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the report that the Dallas Cowboys and Mike McCarthy were not able to agree on a contract, leaving McCarthy a free agent. Doug explains how this is an example of the fact that sometime relationships just came to an end.
In this version of "Love AND Hate" Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most from the sports weekend.
FSR NFL Insider Adam Caplan joins Doug to discuss the Packers-Eagles game, AJ Brown reading on the sidelines, Mike McCarthy and all of the other major news around the NFL.
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stuff to get to. I mean, heck, when we last
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joined The Doug Gottlieb Show, we were getting ready for Texas.
Texas Take it on, Ohio State. Congratulations to the Buckeyes.
Dan Bayer's Dan Buyer's prediction came true. Buckey's defense comes
through late and they get a huge win. And it
also proves those on social media who have now latched
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onto like Chess and Herbert's bad because he played that
one game. Those are the same Ryan day people now
they go by the wayside. But we haven't even talked
since then. We got that in the show. Obviously, Saturday's
NFL games seem like they're like six or seven days ago.
Like when was it that the Steelers got lamb basted
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by the Ravens. Yeah, that was Saturday. Same thing with
the Chargers game. Whatever. Saturday. Sunday, we got to get
to the Eagles and what was a terrible call but
an equally awful beginning for the Green Bay Packers leads
to their dismantling at the hands of the Eagles and
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all the bizarreness with the aj brown stuff, and then
of course late last night you get a joint made
field goal as the Commanders. It's actually the first playoff
win ever for the Commanders because they haven't been the
Commanders for long. And when they have an incredible win,
Jane Daniels continues to impress everybody with his poise, his leadership,
and his throwing and his legs in that game, and
(02:15):
what was the best game of the weekend ends up
being the last game of the weekend. But of course,
the Cowboys being the Cowboys, let's get to the Cowboys
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Tway tired buying should be Look. I know a lot
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about my sport. I know a lot about coaching. I'm
learning as I go. My team did. We fought hard
and lost to our rival in Milwaukee this past weekend.
The losing does continue, but we keep getting better. Anyone
who actually watches the games can see like, oh, young team,
seven freshmen, they're getting better. This is not excuses. Again,
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We've had to fix some things that fell by the
wayside during our preseason even during the season. But I
do feel like we are on an upward trajectory. And
the great thing about my job is, look at our level.
What really matters this March and with this program. I
was hired with the designs of building it so it's
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sustainable for the long term. And even my boss knows
based upon when I got the job. Like I can't
create a wine out of water, I gotta slowly churn
a little butter day after day after day. That's not
the Dallas Cowboys job. Dallas Cowboys job is hey, Jerry
Jones wants to win a championship. Every job is different,
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every expectation level is different. And so when Mike McCarthy
was let go today, I think there's a lot of
people like, WHOA, that stinks. That's bad juju what the
Cowboys did, because remember last week the Bears asked to
talk to Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys like, nah, he's
our guy. And then you're like, wait, why did they
(04:09):
fire him today? What do you think? What do you think? Well,
he wasn't fired. Wasn't fired. His contract expired. They couldn't
come to an agreement on an extension. In case you
might say, well that's being fired sort of. Or Cowboys
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did want to keep him as their coach, but they
didn't want to give in to a long term deal
that makes sense, like eh, And the truth is that
I think this move should have been made last year.
Mi McArthur is a good football coach, he's a good
play caller. Dak Prescott really likes him. But if you're
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not willing to part ways with Dak Prescott for his
playoff ineptitude. Well, then my thought was, why don't you
hire a coach who's had much more success in the
playoffs because McCarthy has made some ill fated decisions, some
game clock management issues and two years ago Niners, last
year Packers some embarrassing losses that really it was their
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offense and their turnovers that undid them. That's fair, isn't it.
And so Jerry wasn't lying when he was like, yeah,
wan back. You know, Jerry also said talk to him ever,
Like wait, he said, talk to him ever, and then
they wouldn't let him talk to the bears and then
they part company like a couple days later. So again
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without talking to anybody in the in the building with
the Cowboys, what probably happened, and again all the details
will slowly come out over time. Is they said, all right, like,
let's find an extension, and Mike McCarthy's probably like great,
three four years and they're like, yeah, no, we didn't.
We want to do a year. See how it works
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next year. And Mike mccarr was like, I'm not not
doing it for less than three years. Okay, you know
there's leverage there. What's your leverage if you're Mike McCarthy,
I'll leave. Fine, we'll find somebody will. And so then
becomes the question of all, right, now, what now? Is
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it fair that Mike McCarthy lost his job? Probably not,
you know, probably not. I don't think based upon what
Dak Prescott said, right, because Dak Prescott alluded to the
fact that the defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer, wasn't his choice.
You know, he had Dan Quinn, and you look at
what dan Quinn's doing with Washington, You're like, man, they
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lose one in dan Quinn. But what Dak alluded to is, hey,
hold on, now, I like this guy. He didn't get
to choose Mike Zimmer, and Mike Zimmer was a bad
fit for the personnel, and it might have been a
bad fit for Mike McCarthy. So whether it's who gets
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to be my coordinators and who I hire and who
I fire, or who I draft and who I don't draft,
or simply the length of contract, it feels like this
was say, you know what, this ain't gonna work. It's
just not. And if I'm the Dallas Cowboys, and you
can go back and google it, google me go back
and google it. Last year when they lost in the playoffs.
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I said, Mike McCarthy's a good coach. He's done a
good job. The Cowboys want to win championships. And there's
a coach out there who's won more championships than any
other coach, and he's available hire him. This is easy.
Now it gets a little murky because he's got a
head coaching job, but it's ten million dollars to get
him out of it. He hasn't hired a full staff.
You can easily move him over, and it would feel
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like Carolina got a raw deal. Maybe he leaves his
son in charge, which is the plan all along, and
only gets sped up, or maybe he takes the son
with him. I don't know, and I don't care. But
for Mike McCarthy to walk away is it's it's just
like when you walk into a card shit man, you're like, yeah,
I don't like this deal. I'm gonna walk from it.
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And once you walk out of that door, you either
have to be able to get willing to get in
your car and go home, or get in your car
and go home and somebody else might come and buy
that car, or just sign your name and let's go.
Look happened to Tyron Lou. Tyron Lou wanted more than
three years with the LA Lakers, and Rob Pulink is like,
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we're not giving anybody more than three years. So Tyrone
Lo's now the coach of the Clippers. He's been the
coach of the Clippers for what the last six seven years.
And Tyron Loo's really, really, really good. But you know
what he didn't get to do. He didn't get to
coach Lebron James, didn't get to win another championship. Mike
McCarthy could very easily get another job. He's won a
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Super Bowl, they were in the playoffs all except for
what this year with Cowboys, and they get and they
did well. And Dak Prescott, I'm sure would call anybody
and say, like, I love that guy. I like playing
for that guy. He used to hire that guy. But
he won't be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys anymore.
And there is something special to being that head coach.
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I'm not surprised by it in the least. The only
thing I'm surprised by is the fact that they signed
Dak Prescott to a long term deal, so they're in
that buy now, which there's zero possibility of I don't
believe of drafting Shador Sanders and bringing in Dion Sanders,
especially after Jerry Jones comments, which I do think we're
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accurate about the true gift of Deon Sanders. His ability
to recruit more so than his ability to coach, would
just I don't think it would work. But it's me.
I said this last year. Your whole thing in Dallas
is we haven't won in the playoffs in forever, and
you have a guy who's won more in the playoffs
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than anybody else. Why woul't you hire Belichick? Meanwhile, Mike
Rabel's gone. He's with the New England Patriots. That was
broken yesterday, and then of course he had the press
conference today. So you know, look, when you're a coach,
you don't like when anybody lose their job. But I'm
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going to guess that part of this was Mike McCarthy
and whether it's his ego or whether it's just the understanding,
there's other jobs out there I can go get and
if you don't want to give me a three or
four year deal, I'd rather go and take some other
job and build another winner. Then I will stay here
in Dallas. When next year we might not have a
chance to win because there's so many holes on this
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football team. And oh yeah, by the way, I don't
feel like I have a chance if I can't hire
the people that I want to hire to run my
defense while I run the offense. So my read on
it is sometimes relationships just come to an end, business relationships,
personal relationships. And if it was as simple as Mike
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McCarthy saying I want this defensive coordinator, I want this
number of years, I want this, this and this, and
they said no, and he goes well, then I walk
and they go okay, then that's actually a mature end
to a relationship. Stug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
(11:19):
pH Byer, I know you were on air yesterday. You
guys had some really good stuff on air yesterday. As
I was driving and listen to you guys. How much
of the hire you on from Ohio State winning.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
By the way, Oh that was magnificent. That was that
was truly something a crazy game. Sometimes the greatest games
just aren't perfect. There's greatness and then there's you know,
mistakes and everything involved. But yeah, that was h top
top ten play I think for sure. In my lifetime,
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no doubt about it. In Ohio State history, the Sawyer
sack and returned.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Sawyer was so good, and he was so good. He's
been so good in the play. He's just a tremendous player.
You know what he is. He's who Andy Katzimware was
supposed to be. How about that one? That guy's That
guy's a monster. I actually I have you know, my
dad was an Ohio State alum. I have no true
tire connection to high state football. I love watching thirty
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three play football, Like that kid plays so hard, so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of full circle. They played
different positions, obviously, but Ohio kids and Sawyer, so it
was a great basketball player.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, in high school, I saw I saw him Like
I was watching those videos this weekend. I was like, man,
can you imagine Sure matching up with him in high school?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
But being one of the guys that wanted to return,
obviously he was at the center of the Michigan flag
planting controversy and trying to rip that there's yeah, he is.
He will go down in Ohio State lore for what
has transpired over the last two months. Not that his
career wasn't great up to that point, but the chapters
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that have now been added, it's truly been remarkable. And
I said top ten it may even be it may
even be top five for how how crazy that was?
I mean Texas at the one yard line and then.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, and you know, it's it's really interesting on how
like I almost feel like social media and I love
just you know, like I have loved my time on
X and I'm not like one of these like I'm
moving away from X whatever, but I do feel like
I need to find a way to clean up my
algorithm for people that I actually think I because so
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many of these people like it's just bizarre opinions, you know,
it's like just bizarre, like what are we actually like?
That was a great football game. Texas lost my two touchdowns,
but I mean one of them is at the end's
returned for like what are yard away from tying their
yard away from tying the game? It was a great
game and a kid made a great play and how defense.
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You know, his coach Jim Knowles does an incredible job.
It's you know, like they they found a way. It
really was. It's one of those where score not indicative
of how competitive that football game was. Like I just
I watched. I have some of the same feelings with
the with the Penn State Notre Dame game. We talked
about this on Friday, which is like, we go and
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we crush these dudes as head coaches or quarterbacks. And
the truth is, it really comes down to one or
two plays. It wasn't like you know, the Indiana or
SMU or the Tennessee these blowouts. You know, it's like
it really came down to one or two plays. And
I don't care what the final score is whatever, Like
somebody's not a choker, or somebody didn't choke because they
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ran a play that you know that Sawyer blows up
because he's an unbelievable football player. You know, Like, what
are we actually doing here? I don't know. I I
enjoyed the hell of those two semi finals. Enjoyed the
hell of the two semi finals. Uh. Your reaction to
Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Part ways surprise, considering the information that we got last
week that these sides were going to be talking about
a deal and that permission was denied by Jerry Jones
at this time. But I think you said something earlier
in this segment that is one hundred percent true. It's
probably best for the Cowboys that this happens, and maybe
for Mike McCarthy as well. Maybe he goes to the Bears,
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maybe he goes to the Saints. But I do think
that in the end, if Jerry Jones is willing to pay,
and I would hope that he is, but I think
that they're going to probably come out in a better
situation than they were if they would have kept McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, maybe, Again, depends on the higher it depends
out all fits together, you know. And the other thing
you learn again, I know you know this stance. I'm
not being condescending towards people who know sports. It's as
much as we make it out about the quarterback or
the head coach, or the defense coordinator or the offense square.
(15:58):
It all has to kind of work to other, right,
It all has to work together. Like I'll give you
an example. I think Dan Quinn's doing a hell of
a job, but you know he hired Cliff Kingsbury, who
fits perfectly with Jayden Daniels. It all kind of works together, right,
Like it's a much easier offense for him to process
because that offense is similar to one of the ones
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he ran in college. Like it all kind of works together.
It's not about one hire, it's about the whole thing.
And it felt like the Cowboys this year were disconnected
between defense and offense. It just did you know, so
I'm it probably is. It's definitely has a chance to
be the best thing for the Cowboys, and it might
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be the best thing for Mike McCarthy because the likely
it is he wasn't going to win next year, and
if they was on a one year deal, then he'd
be out of a job. And right now there's a
lot of jobs open, and some of them have a
quarterback and they want him to lead their football team.
Maybe or maybe not. Maybe he's done. If not, like
if at the end of the day he's got twenty
million dollars in the bank and he got to coach
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the Packers and the Cowboys. That's not a bad gig,
not a bad game. No, no sign me here for
that one sign After that, you got a lot of
things to get to, a lot, a lot, a lot.
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coming down off a good sports high, right good sports
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high where you have four straight days of football. You're like,
oh man, that was good. Plus like we legit had
four Honestly, Saturday was probably the only day. And if
you like basketball or some great college basketball that night
at Utah State win what a game at De Glenn's
Spectrum Events Center. And by the way, Jared Calhoun is
the head coach, the first year head coach at Utah State.
(18:27):
They have an unbelievable year. There's sixteen and one. He
joined me on my All Ball podcast. Check that one out.
Just a coach who's been through it and went from
Fairmont State to Youngstown State now to Utah State and
gave me some advice. And you can listen and just
type in all Ball Doug Gottlieb. You can check that
one out anyway. Thursday, Friday, Sunday awesome football games. But
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there are things that we each And when I say we,
I'm talking about Sam who's on the ones and twos,
Jay stew who's our esteem producer. Of course Dan Bayer,
who you heard yesterday on Fox Sports trading here every
day here in the Doug Gottlieb Show. We each have
different things we loved, different things we hate, and every
Monday we recap them.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
What did you love God, I love you and what
did you hate?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
These Claire Hayes do do do do?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Love love, love, hate, hate hate. Let's start with Dan Byer,
because he loves his Buckeyes. They won. I don't know
if that's what he'd loved from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I'm just I give you the floor.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It is.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
What transpired on Friday night at the Cotton Bowl, and
it has been a great fun ride, considering the lowest
of lows following the loss to Michigan. But I mentioned
the Zach Jack Sawyer touchdown, the sack, and then the
ensuing touchdown against Texas, and I said earlier top ten
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possible moment in Ohio State history, at least in my
lifetime of almost forty eight years and forty years of
watching Ohio State football. There were a bunch of moments
from that two thousand and two season Doug and then
he had the National championship a decade ago with Urban
Meyer in the first year of that playoff. But what
I loved about Friday Night was obviously the ending, but
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it's also what I love about college football. And we
talk about the product of the NFL lately being substandard,
not up to what we want, want necessarily want it
to be. There is some sort of charm in college
football when it's not played perfectly.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's so and there's something about that. It's getting the
ball into the one yard line. Not that a goal
line stand is something that you don't see in college football,
but just certain plays happening. Sure, We've seen Daniel Jones
stumble on a long run with the Giants, but Will
Howard unable to keep his feet on the on the
fourth and two run. But still you also get periods
of greatness in that game, and whether it be a
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play by Jack Sawyer or Trayvon Henderson and what he
did on the screenplay. A lot of people pointing out
just the effort of g Scott Junior the tight end
on the third down to try to get extra yards
that allowed Ohio State to go for that fourth down
that Will Howard got. Yeah, there's just something about it.
And I would say as much as well, like Penn
State and Notre Dame probably had some of the same
(21:28):
aspects of it as well. I wasn't tied in deep
into that game as it was with Ohio State. But
there's greatness and then there's sometimes just eighteen year old
nineteen year old kids making mistakes and it happens, and
that's the charm of college football. But obviously Friday night
was a huge, huge win for the buck Eyes, and
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a week from tonight now against Notre Dame, that's my
love of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know what's interesting is I used to call the
buck Eyes when that last championship team and er Jim
Tressel the luck Eyes, like how many games did they
pull off in close? And granted this was a close,
get a lot closer than two touchdowns because as you
went out, Texas at the one yard line had five
plays to score. But that wasn't luck. They won that
football game. They won that football game, and I, you know,
(22:15):
without a, without a, without a what was it dog
in the fight? I was coaching a game at the time,
and I came out and I watched it from the
start start to finish, and I was like, man, that
was a really cool football game. I felt rewarded for
watching it. Sam, what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Mine love of the weekend is not well, let's give
that another try there. Maybe it's just smoke out here.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I'm still getting over a little COVID voice plus the smoke.
But I definitely don't love that. But I do love
this is not football, really did, But I definitely love
what the Iowa men's basketball team did on Saturday. I
felt coming into that game against Indiana they just really
didn't have much of an identity this year. They were
coming off of a comeback overtime win over Nebraska, which was,
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you know, encouraging to see. But this Iowa team laid
the hammer on an Indiana team that I don't know
how good this Indiana team is, but they came in
four and one into this game at Carver Hockey Arena,
and Iowa was a slight favorite about four four and
a half points, but by the five minutes into the
second half, they were just they were up by twenty
on the Hoosiers. So this was an encouraging win for
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Iowa men's basketball. You know, they've kind of taken a
back seat to the women's program for the last few years. Now,
the women's teams kind of fading. They truly love to
have Caitlyn Clark back, but the women have won or
lost three in a row and the men now are
above five hundred to the Big Ten, so it's encouraging.
Hopefully they can get back to the NCAA tournament. But
they led the they laid the gas down on the Hoosiers.
So that that was what I loved from the weekend.
(23:47):
Jase too, you know what I love. I love a
stute good commentary. If I'm going to invest time and
sit down on my couch and watch a game. I
want something to be done professionally, and I wanted to
be a stute. I wanted to be concise and insightful.
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And you know who offered a great contrast to Tony
Romo and Tom Brady, who are really bad at their job,
Kirk Herbstreet on Saturday Night. Kirk has found his voice
this year, and I don't know what it is. Maybe
because he has the two jobs, he's making a lot
of money. I know he had that comment a few
(24:29):
weeks back about Ohio State Fringe and all that stuff,
and he's just kind of found his voice in these broadcasts.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
I think this year. I thought his first couple of
years with Amazon were kind of vanilla. But Saturday Night
he delivered a great broadcast. And then he offered this
during the game with Al Michael's about the Steelers again, like.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
This a chess match. It's a cliche, but this is
a chess match two grand masters.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
If I were a Steelers fan, I think that would
consider me. Just watching this first tast.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
In the postseason, you're getting dominated.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't see any fight, I don't see any any pushback.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It's one thing that lose Xowas against a really talented
of offense.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
But where the hell is the fight? This is the
Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
There's nothing.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
You know, Doug, maybe that the next team meeting prep
Median will be a little uncomfortable with the Steelers. Maybe yeah,
maybe relationships are compromised. But it's that kind of honesty
that best serves the viewers. Good for Kirk Curbstreet, he's
found his voice. He's enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Uh, completely completely and totally agree with you that if
everybody thinks it was fine, it's not a good broadcast, right,
it's not a good broadcast. Well, I guess this is
a little personal one for me, but this is great.
(25:58):
So Saturday we played against set up Milwaukee. They're our rival,
and look last time we played him, Uh, they kind
of punked us and I was a six point game
with a couple minutes to go, and we had two
bad turnovers. See I think we ended up losing by
eleven ten or eleven. Uh, But again, considering my young bunch,
(26:21):
and you have to measure up, I thought we improved
and uh, but was weird? Is so? My dad coached
in Milwaukee when I was a kid when I was born,
and a couple of his players were there, and my
babysitter from when I was a baby was there, Like
that's weird, wow, And that was kind of cool anyway.
(26:43):
It was just I don't know, I loved it. I
thought it was how old she is?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
He?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
He was just a dude. I don't know. I don't
know anything about.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It was liketer.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I've had a couple of male babysitters going on. I
used to friends, hand.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I used to watch you when you were a kid,
and he's like, Wendy, my sister Greg and you you're
just a little baby and you were like two years
old and run around the house and it's like, damn,
that is crazy. So I don't know, it's cool moment
for me. All right, let's get to the other side.
What'd you hate from this weekend? Hate from this weekend? Oh?
(27:23):
You know, our resident hater is that's Jason Stewart. Floor's yours?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I hate that's Sam?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Wait, how come he didn't say say it? What say it?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Thanks Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Isn't that we're crossing the streams here, aren't we?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Doug, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He No, he does it with everything.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Okay, all right, I was just so.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
I was just so upset that Sam, somehow his triple
X fantasies made it onto the air a minute ago.
He's talking about a babysitter and Sam goes right to
how hot is she?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Did?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I was just offended that he didn't think like it
would be a guy. He just immediately said how old?
How old was that?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
How old is this person?
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Now?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Geez, I'm just curious. So I don't know, you didn't
say you said how old is she?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
You know I was even one summer. I was a many,
a babysitter for an. No, the damage has been done,
A little guy has been done. It's okay, it's nothing
wrong with being a many. Carry on.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
I hated seeing the reaction to the Justin Herbert thing,
like it would be contradiction for me to say that
I would was disappointed in the Charger Saturday because I
think I said, after like seven weeks of the season
that anything they do after this is gravy. So I
can't really be upset that they lost a playoff game.
They actually made it to the playoffs, But I was
(28:49):
upset at the reaction that Justin Herbert got after the game.
Everybody wanted to pile on. I didn't know how many
people were lined up to kick that guy in the
teeth when he failed. That was just a pointing and
I asked on the group text and it went unresponded to.
So I'm gonna ask it on the air. Quentin Johnson
sucks again because, like I remember, specifically last week, Doug
(29:12):
made the comment and giving the credentials of Tom to
LESCo that he's he's done well. The last couple of
drafts he got Brock Bauers and Quinton Johnson, and I
remember at the time thinking Quentin Johnson is still a mystery.
Like he mixed in greatness this season, which is dropping
Blaytant passes. He didn't take advantage of the passes that
(29:35):
were thrown his way this weekend. He ran a half
yard out when the team needed two yards. So that
was frustrating. Anyways, people piling on Justin Herbert afterwards, and
it took on a racial tone. It was just unenjoyable.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I listen, that's not gonna give you what I hate,
but yeah, the I just think people look like clowns
the jumping onto RG three like, oh, we gotta have
a discuss. I hope the media, you know, calls out
Justin Herbert for this, Like what are you talking about, dude?
Justin Herbert's awesome RG three is he's he legit believes that.
(30:14):
I think he legit believes that race is the reason
he's not still in the NFL. You know, I so
oh thing I think of. No, Herbert wasn't good. He wasn't,
but he had a great year with a limited roster.
And uh, he has enough equity with the Chargers, with
most few in the NFL and the most notably Jim Harbaugh. Right,
(30:38):
Like Jim Harbaugh has forgotten more about the quarterback position
than Rchie three and and the rest of us will
ever know. And if Jim Harbaugh swears by the guy,
then you know what I'm gonna swear by the guy.
He through three interceptions all year. His best wide receiver
was Lad McConkey, who's a good player but probably should
be a number two. You have a possession guy with
(30:59):
a new offense and a lot of injuries, especially in
the offensive backfield, Like, I don't know if you're gonna
hold against him. All these dudes are having bad playoff games.
It's when you have multiple bad playoff games in a
row and your team underachieves. They overachieved this year. That's it.
(31:19):
Damn Bier. Would you hate this for you?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I had two things that I that I hated and
I was gonna go with the other one. But on
the heels of that, and this happened with the Chargers loss.
It happens with the Steelers loss. It actually happens with
every team that loses. Are people immediately going to the
offseason for whatever team loses, So the Chargers lose, Chargers
need this offseason. Like we are at the two minute warning,
(31:44):
the game's not even over. We have a whole entire
offseason to talk about this stuff. It's the immediacy to
be It's almost like this rush. So they can put
out their tweets and point to it in March or
April or next year in October, so they can recite
and see I said it back in January. This is
(32:06):
what the Steelers needed to do, or this is what
the Chargers needed to do. But they do it at
a point that it's just so games not even over with.
It's the last thing that's on my mind. If I'm
a Chargers fan, if I'm a Steelers fan, if I'm
a Broncos fan. Like, there's just this suddenness, and I
just feel that everybody jumps to the opportunity. Not everybody,
(32:27):
but a select few on social media, some more prominent
than others. Just is really annoying. We're gonna have eight
months to talk about all of this stuff. Why do
I need it? At the two minute warning, as the
team is about to.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Lose, I saw something on Twitter that Dan despises. It
was actually a former family member at Fox Sports Radio.
He tweeted out, I've got twenty minutes in an uber
fire away your questions.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
You love that, don't you?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I can't stand it because it is so oh disrespectful
to the followers and fans and listeners of their time
in your time, Like, I've got nothing to do. I'm
in an uber. I'm on a plane because otherwise I
have nothing else better to do than to talk to
(33:18):
you people.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I'm entertain me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, I have done that. I'm just I'm gonna be honestly.
I have done it. Now does this help it all? Dan?
If I do it and say like, hey, I haven't
done it since being coach fire Away or is this no?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It should be like, hey, guess what this Thursday at
six o'clock, I'm gonna be taking your questions. We're going
to be doing a thing here. That's fine, it set aside.
It is so like because you can't do anything in
an uber, you really can't do anything on an airplane.
Maybe watch a movie or just time to kill. But
it also feels that you are putting yourself on a
pedestal that people would actually care what your opinion woul
(33:56):
would be on a lot of things. And I don't
mean to sound disrespectful to you, you doug on it, but
that is just how I feel when anybody does it
of coming coming guess what I have to guess what
I have to say about this in time that doesn't
matter to me that it just rubs me the wrong way.
I cannot stand it. I was sam My hate again
(34:19):
with the voice right.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I'm sorry, I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I don't know, Sam, when when you go through puberty,
we're gonna give your own segment.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
That's a second time going through peberty here. Apparently my
hate of the weekend is trying to size up the
Green Bay Packers season. Doug, what would you say their
identity was Doug this year running the ball? Josh Jacobs. Yeah,
but I just don't feel I don't. I don't have
a feel from this season. They started off the year
(34:48):
with a loss to the Eagles, the end of the
year with the loss.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Of the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You have a feel for the season, it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I don't. Let let's go yes, yes, let me let
me go back. It's not a good feel though.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
It's not an I agree your feel because that's accurate.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
But I don't have like something I'm gonna remember it.
There's a there's a scene in an episode of Seinfeld
where Newman, Kramer and I believe Jerry are all on reconnaissance.
They're talking about days of the week and how they
you know, Sunday is a feel, Friday is a feel, Tuesday.
Tuesday doesn't really have a feel. That's how I feel
about this season. They didn't do anything in the division.
(35:22):
They didn't six yep, they let the they let the Bears,
you know, break their ten game losing streak even eleven,
thank you? And who what were their best wins? Maybe
over a rams team that was injury ridden at the
beginning of the season trying to figure things out. Maybe
the Texans. Yeah, yeah, I know, but that was again
(35:43):
kind of the first third of the season, first half
of the season, and I just I just come away
with this season feeling like the Packers were kind of
a distant, a third fiddle in the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Never beat a team that they were that was better
than they were, and didn't lose to a team that
was worse than they were. It was just blah, Yeah,
I mean the Bears game, it's who cares, It's Sweek eighteen.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, And and Jordan Love didn't play in the second half.
And look, in fairness, you know, they lost one of
their top two wide receivers and lost their second best
wider inturatment in Eagles game. But you're right, And I
think the big question is Jordan Love had There are
moments where you're like yes, and their moments you're like,
h did we have to go and give him the
(36:27):
biggest contract or could we have let him play out
the year and then negotiate with him the exact same
deal And right now would it be the exact same deal?
I don't know. So look, it's still a very young team. Now,
what they do to fix it to get them over
the hump, we'll find out. We'll find out.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Because Doug the end of last year had a feel
right because they went into Dallas.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
No, it's hope.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
There's hope, optimism, hope and last way optimism hope.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Right last year, you go, hey, they had to lead,
they lost it to Serfrancis. Can be like, hey, San
francisc goes better. They got to figure it out now.
It even though they're young football team, you still are
left going like, yeah, I don't know if that young
excuse works. I think the young excuse works for just
this year, and then I think it goes away next year.
With Jordan Love, he's got to stop turn the ball over,
(37:15):
he's got to stop always trying to force it down
the field. It feels like a young qu It feels
like farv and that far of stuff doesn't work in
today's foot game. I don't think. I don't, so I'm
with you. I think they do have a feel. They
feel like they underachieved, and I think that's a fair feel.
It's fair. Now, there could be reasons by it, and
maybe we overestimated how good they were, and that they're
(37:37):
too young to really figure it out yet. But I
think that's a fair feel, it's fair, you know, still
like they got a chance to be really really good,
but they got to show us something. And again like
the Niner game, that doesn't even any score, you know,
because the Niners weren't whole right, weren't close to weren't
close to being blow up win.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
But again against what competition here correct eleven wins And
now I don't know if I felt a whole lot
from the season.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I just again, I'll I'm gonna do the hate thing over,
you know, like, look, when you play a football game,
when you play a basketball game, somebody loses, okay, And
when that team loses, it doesn't mean that somebody has
to get fired for every loss, especially in the playoffs. Well,
(38:24):
that somebody sucks so that they're a choker. Sometimes you
just lose. Now, there are elements, and choking to me
is when you have a win in hand and you
dramatically underachieve because of the pressure of the moment, and
especially if you do it time and again. You know,
Steve Sarkesian's an idiot, and you know yours isn't good
enough and justin Herbert like, we have reached this such
(38:48):
complete over the top negativity on every loss. It doesn't
mean anybody wants to lose again. I can only use
I can use myself an example. I don't want to
make it too obvious. Our record is not good as
two and sixteen. We had one a game since mid November,
got it. Okay, Yes, our best player has been hurt
for a month. Okay, we got a young roster, all that.
(39:11):
But again, if you watch the games for me, I'll
be proud of my guys. They competed. Are there things
they absolutely should do better? Sure, but we are getting
better now. For pick a team that lost, like again
for Texas, do you want to lose for a section
straight year in the in the semi finals? No, but
they're at the one foot line. And this is a
Texas program that before Sark took it over, it was
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when will Texas be back? Now they're the only team
remaining from the SEC. They seem to have stabilized it.
They are back as one of the nation's elite, and
we completely throw that away because they couldn't punch it
in from the one yard line against an awesome defense.
And Jack Sawyer who made great plays. Okay, great plays.
The same goes for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Like.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Look, the Chargers were the laughing stock of the NFL
last year, fair fair dam byer. Yes, okay, were they
laughingstock this year?
Speaker 6 (40:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
They were a solid football team. They took a massive step,
massive step forward, did it Herbert play? Well? No, no,
but you don't have a lot to work with and
by what we have. By the way, the Texans made
that same jump to respectability last year. Okay, so they
had the experience of it from last year and then
this year took advantage of it. So I just I
(40:26):
hate where we are as I don't even care about
the uneducated sports fan. I care about people who cover
sports who immediately fall to this guy's stings, this guy's joker.
We got to have a discussion about, No, we don't
teams win, teams lose. We got to have step away,
take a breath, take some perspective, look at the game,
look at the season, and then we judge who's doing
their job and who's not doing their job. And that's
(40:50):
that's love and hate.
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Adam Kaplan joins us Fox Sports Radio is NFL Insider Plus.
He's the host of Inside the Birds podcast. I look,
I know you're a Philly guy. Can you explain to
(42:50):
me how it appeared to everyone watching the replay that
though there was a legit fumble, the Packers had the
fumble record and then it goes under the score like
you could see it on screen. How on replay was
that not Packers ball?
Speaker 7 (43:06):
I mean, I'm not a I happy to live here,
but it doesn't I could care less who wins or
loses I'm not you know, I cover thirty two teams,
so just to be clear. But by the way, there
should have been a penalty and then opening kickoff. Also
the arn Burk's the veteran linebacker who now will take
over for Nakobe Dean. He lowered his head to initiate
contact that should have been called. That was not called.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
I agree that that the reps kind of blew it.
It was an odd game, like there were some very
bad misscalls and there were some overacting by receivers by
both these particularly Green Bays receivers were acting.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
They just threw their hands up. You know you do that.
There's a don't talking to coaches.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
Let's say the ball's overthrown, but a guy's near you,
or it makes contact, just throw your hands up like
there should be. There should be a penalty. There are
a number of plays like that in this game. And
doesn't make up for the case that Green Bay did
not play well. No Dredan Love especially, Let's call like
it is. Neither quarterback played well, but the Eagles sort
of severed mostly because of their defense of the run game.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, a lot of criticism of all the losing quarterbacks,
but Jordan Love now a lot of criticism of them.
How fair do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
It's fair because look, they give them that he had
a proven deal. Last year. He played very well.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Obviously, they blew out the Cowboys and the wild card round,
and they knew after that season that he was going
to be their guy, so they took ever his contract.
There needs to be a level of play that's consistent.
See the thing with Love is like he gets off
to this slow start turning the ball over. They decided
to put in Josh Shacob's hands and make Jordan Love
(44:41):
less of a factor, and they kind of could settling
him down. He was able to go seven straight games
with out throwing an interception. Then yesterday a number of
interceptions they had for turnovers. Overall, they lost a turnover
battle for to nothing. It is it's very fair because
he's just very inconsistent. He's sort of a gunslinger and
(45:01):
you got to make better decisions with the football. I
know that they lost two of their receivers yesterday and
they were without Christiana Watson, so they were down for
quite a number of snaps with their top three receivers.
That's certainly a problem. He forced the ball, but he's
got to be better. He's a very talented quarterback, by
the way, the Packers love him. He's a pretty accountable
guy from what I'm told. And they got to get
(45:23):
themselves together. This is not what they're expecting. They're expecting
to play better. But you know, overall, in a game
where you know the Eagles can't throw the football to
save their life, yesterday they struggled. They started off well,
Hurts got off the good start six or six and
then he really regressed. You would think they'd be able
to hang in it after that, but nothing seemed to
go right on either side of the football.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah. I don't know if you saw Dan Orlowski's tweet
where he went through and he's like, there's nobody open.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
There were some plays, Yes, that's definitely true. But I
could tell you that Hurts moves sometimes when he shouldn't
have moved. I heard this morning. I'm so already grated
the tape. There's sometimes he shouldn't move, he moves. He
still bailed some. Now, yes, there were some plays where
guys were not open. In fact, you could see that
last yesterday watched the game on Fox because of the
deeper routes that Kellen Moore, the offensive coordinator of the
(46:13):
Eagles to play caller, had uh, the routes are a
bit a little bit too long.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Now.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
What happened was because they saw her toll on the
ball too long. Third quarter, they moved the past targets
up and he got rid of it faster, which is
really what he needs to do.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Adam Kaplan joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Stop. You've heard this before, but
apparently AJ Brown wasn't happy with the number of targets.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
And then he's then he's a blocking receiver yesterday.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Then he's he's reading his book on the sideline. He
doesn't he doesn't want to answer questions. Afterwards, he says,
not about you. But like they won a playoff game.
What what really goes on in the conversations about managing
A J. Brown during this playoffs?
Speaker 7 (46:55):
So, okay, let me, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you
Cliftons version, not just this, I'm gonna give you his
entire career. I could tell you from the Titans, they
absolutely loved him. Coaching staff connected, he was a leader. Now,
he didn't practice a lot he's had. The big reason
why John Robinson, the general manager then of the Titans,
straight him to Philly or was going to trade him
and made him a very low ball off for which A. J.
(47:16):
Brown thought was insulting, is that the Titans believed that
the long term viability of both of his knees one
worse than the other. It was going to have him
potentially short in his career, and they did not want
to guarantee much money past two years. They just were
not sure if he could have a full career, whether
he could play Toys thirty. It was only twenty seven,
(47:37):
but there was a concern there, so they traded him
on drafting. There were other teams in volve, but Philly
wound up giving what the Titans went. Obviously, the trade
has not worked out at all. It's worked out very
well for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
He's got a bad left knee.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
You might remember Doug in the Pittsburgh game where Dalen
Hurts was terrific. They threw the ball to run the
clock out, not run it, and then AJ Brown unfortunately
got tackled awkwardly and he's been hurt since then with
his left knee. Not practicing very much. He talked about
a Thursday. It's bothering him. Now, this stuff about reading
the book is bizarre to me. No one's going to
(48:10):
tell him what to do. I mean, as long as
he's paying attention, it's not going to be a problem.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I've not heard yet. Now I have to look in this.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
I was not aware that he was having a book
on the sidelines, So I'll be looking into this one.
This is certainly, in my twenty seven years of covering
the National footb League, one of the most unique situations
I've ever seen. I've seen guys eat on the sidelines
when you're not supposed to. I've seen fights on the sidelines,
which is absolutely normal between coaches and coaches, coaches and players.
But I've not seeing a guy read a book, a
self help book. Okay, but that's a little odd to me.
(48:41):
But I was caught by surprise like everyone was. And
by the way, that book now is going off the
digital bookshelves on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
How about that?
Speaker 7 (48:50):
This classic you as a coach, by the way, how
would you handle it?
Speaker 3 (48:55):
I forgot your your coach? Tell us, coach, well, how would.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
You handle if guy? If a guy's reading a book.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Well basket was a little hard even shorter bench.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
So no, I mean it's the same thing. Like I can't.
I don't pay attention to what's going on down there.
They tell me after the game, like this guy, you know,
and like we were. I was actually really proud of
my group, like we've we've we've trimmed the bench in
terms of a lot of people who were on it,
just because I only want positivity on that bench. It's
too it's too hard, right, What would you do? I
(49:21):
would I would just call him in like what in
the actual are you doing? Right? And if it was
if it was a guy who had was dealing with
some mental stuff like I have a couple dealing with
some anxiety. Like hey, coaches sow ideal with an.
Speaker 7 (49:33):
Which would be fair to say he's trying to keep
his emotions in check.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
And you just talked about the past targets.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah A J.
Speaker 7 (49:40):
Brown, I should add Doug before you throw it back
to you. Hear that He's made it very clear that
he does not want to be like you know, people
started bring up tarall Owens when he was handing about
the targets, and he was unhappy last year with the
direction of the offense. He didn't want to be that
guy he's talking. He said, don't even go there. Yeah,
he's a really good teammate, by the way, but this
situation with a book, So what.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Do you mean he's a really good teammate. I disagree
with that. Hang on, there's other things you can do
to be a really good team.
Speaker 7 (50:07):
This is weird, Okay, hang on. Yeah, mentoring younger players,
having having the back of everybody.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, okay, now.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
But.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
It's the whole I will tell you. Okay, So it's
the whole thing, though, Right. You can't do one or
two things and say, well, I'm a good teammate because
I mentor young guys. Okay, that's great, Okay, but they
also watch you throw a fit for not getting targets.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
And I don't care care the fit part.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I'd be okay, well even in this, even this, even
after the game, right, if you go, like, why are
you reading the book? Like, honestly, like, I'm dealing with
some anxiety, I'm dealing with pressure. I want to perform.
I get a little frustrated. This is how I find
my balance, right, Instead, it's I don't want to talk
about it. It's not about you. It tells everybody that
he's got a problem. He's drying. Yeah, by the way,
(50:59):
negative attention to himself. All that should be celebrated is
we won the game.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
I agree the game. And by the way, I would
tell you that Aj will have any he does.
Speaker 7 (51:09):
He always always does interviews in the locker room, even
when it's things are bad. Yeah, he'll do that interview.
I think Thursday most likely. Okay, usually does it Thursday
or Friday. But anyway, I expect him to have a
little bit of a different attitude. I'd be surprised if
he did.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, or he'll be gone. Who's the next Cowboys coach?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
All right?
Speaker 7 (51:28):
So and Jerry Jones, by the way, literally within five seconds,
just the Cowboys just sent me the statement from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Let me see here.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
Yeah, okay, now, now he's probably confirming that that that
Mike will not return.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
So all right, let me explain something to you.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
Okay, I could confirm a couple of things that are
may or may not be out there, but I'm gonna
explain why it's been out there from several people. And
I've known about this for some time that if it
didn't get done, would be the number of years.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
But this idea they didn't.
Speaker 7 (52:00):
Negotiate is It's not true. They absolutely talked with they
talked to yours. I mean they talked about framework. They
never talked money. They never got that far. But Jerry
Jones and his agent Donyee, you know, they kind of
knew where this was headed. Both sides wanted to They
wanted to be back with each other, but Jerry because
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of the way things have ended. And remember, in fact,
I remember you and I. You may not remember this,
but you and I you were incredulous how McCarthy could
come back. And I was not disagreeing with you. Okay,
this time last year, Mike, I've Doug. I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it. I was with you.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
I'm like, you just got blown out at home and embarrassed.
Speaker 7 (52:40):
And this year you're eight and nine, and I think
I think Jerry Jones in his early eighties is just unrealistic,
almost out of touch. Why would you think that a
short term deal after you let him coach out his
final you would be acceptable? Like why would you the
entitlement of Jerry Jones to think this? I'm going to
call it like an is like it's part of my
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job is to not only give you information, sure, but
to unders give people an idea of it's not done
this way with normal teams, Like this is not You
talk about thirty years here since the Super Bowl, Like
there's a reason like this is bizarre. Now my old
colleague from ESP and Ed Werder, and I'm going to
give him credit. I know this, but I'll give credit
first because this is the first chance I've had to
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talk about it. Kellen Moore's going to be on their list.
See here's what most people don't understand. Jerry Jones wanted
Kelly More to stay. Micha McCarthy did not want him.
Michae McCarthy was told when.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
He didn't want the gold Boy there, he.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Didn't want him. He didn't.
Speaker 7 (53:38):
First of all, Kellen doesn't run a West Coast offense. Okay,
that's the number one issue.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
They didn't see I. I on the structure of the
of the offense.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
And he found a way to get Look, they got
blown out, so Kellen was the fall guy. And now
he's in Philly. So they love Kellen like they brought
him up the game. You know, he became a backup
for them for number years than quarterback coach in the
euroc They love his offense, so he's he's going to
be on their list.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
There's no question about it. I wouldn't rule out.
Speaker 7 (54:07):
Of defensive coach, but I think more more than likely
to be an offensive coaching. By the way, listen, let's
call it like it is here with Kellen Moore and
Jalen Hurts. Like Callen has not coached a quarterback like Kurtz,
this is different, like Hurts is a different style of quarterback.
Remember now, Kellen Moore's already coach Dak Prescott. He knows
what to expect there. This has been not the greatest
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marriage in Philly. I know that the Eagles are great.
They're now fifteenth three at the end of the season
of fourteenth three, they're going to move on to play
the winner of tonight's game in Philly on Sunday afternoon.
But the Eagles passing offense has not been quite I
think what Eagles will probably tell you it should be.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, not so, no, it's not. It's not. Guys, aren't open.
Seems a little stale? Yeah, I'm with you. Last thing,
last thing does Mike McCarthy get a job.
Speaker 7 (54:59):
Yes, yeah, i'd be I don't do percentages, but if
you look at the available candidates that are out there
other than Ben Johnson for the second straight years of
the guy, it's just not a good list. And by
the way, you know, Mike Vrabel was on as I
understand it too, our lists and the Patriots knew this,
so they made sure this got done like as soon
as they were allowed to. Yeah, so it's not it's
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not a great list this year. And the other thing
is Doug when I ranked these jobs from people I
spoke with, sure, I mean, you look at the Raiders' job.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I know that.
Speaker 7 (55:30):
You know, there's some people around the league that think
that Tom Brady's going to steer Ben Johnson there. Why
would Ben Johnson have any interest in that job. It's
a bad job. It's not a great It's just I
am O'Connell's been a nice story. Is probably better back
up if you just look at the over roster's not
very good.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
So let's see what happens with Ben Johnson. This is fascinating.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
It is Adam Kaplan, Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider, also
host of Inside the Birds podcast, we'll talk next week.
AD and thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Sounds good. Thanks
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Texas Take it on, Ohio State. Congratulations to the Buckeyes.
Dan Bayer's Dan Buyer's prediction came true. Buckey's defense comes
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onto like Chess and Herbert's bad because he played that
one game. Those are the same Ryan day people now
they go by the wayside. But we haven't even talked
since then. We got that in the show. Obviously, Saturday's
NFL games seem like they're like six or seven days ago.
Like when was it that the Steelers got lamb basted
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by the Ravens. Yeah, that was Saturday. Same thing with
the Chargers game. Whatever. Saturday. Sunday, we got to get
to the Eagles and what was a terrible call but
an equally awful beginning for the Green Bay Packers leads
to their dismantling at the hands of the Eagles and
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all the bizarreness with the aj brown stuff, and then
of course late last night you get a joint made
field goal as the Commanders. It's actually the first playoff
win ever for the Commanders because they haven't been the
Commanders for long. And when they have an incredible win,
Jane Daniels continues to impress everybody with his poise, his leadership,
and his throwing and his legs in that game, and
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what was the best game of the weekend ends up
being the last game of the weekend. But of course,
the Cowboys being the Cowboys, let's get to the Cowboys
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about my sport. I know a lot about coaching. I'm
learning as I go. My team did. We fought hard
and lost to our rival in Milwaukee this past weekend.
The losing does continue, but we keep getting better. Anyone
who actually watches the games can see like, oh, young team,
seven freshmen, they're getting better. This is not excuses. Again,
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We've had to fix some things that fell by the
wayside during our preseason even during the season. But I
do feel like we are on an upward trajectory. And
the great thing about my job is, look at our level.
What really matters this March and with this program. I
was hired with the designs of building it so it's
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sustainable for the long term. And even my boss knows
based upon when I got the job. Like I can't
create a wine out of water, I gotta slowly churn
a little butter day after day after day. That's not
the Dallas Cowboys job. Dallas Cowboys job is hey, Jerry
Jones wants to win a championship. Every job is different,
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every expectation level is different. And so when Mike McCarthy
was let go today, I think there's a lot of
people like, WHOA, that stinks. That's bad juju what the
Cowboys did, because remember last week the Bears asked to
talk to Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys like, nah, he's
our guy. And then you're like, wait, why did they
(04:09):
fire him today? What do you think? What do you think? Well,
he wasn't fired. Wasn't fired. His contract expired. They couldn't
come to an agreement on an extension. In case you
might say, well that's being fired sort of. Or Cowboys
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did want to keep him as their coach, but they
didn't want to give in to a long term deal
that makes sense, like eh, And the truth is that
I think this move should have been made last year.
Mi McArthur is a good football coach, he's a good
play caller. Dak Prescott really likes him. But if you're
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not willing to part ways with Dak Prescott for his
playoff ineptitude. Well, then my thought was, why don't you
hire a coach who's had much more success in the
playoffs because McCarthy has made some ill fated decisions, some
game clock management issues and two years ago Niners, last
year Packers some embarrassing losses that really it was their
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offense and their turnovers that undid them. That's fair, isn't it.
And so Jerry wasn't lying when he was like, yeah,
wan back. You know, Jerry also said talk to him ever,
Like wait, he said, talk to him ever, and then
they wouldn't let him talk to the bears and then
they part company like a couple days later. So again
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without talking to anybody in the in the building with
the Cowboys, what probably happened, and again all the details
will slowly come out over time. Is they said, all right, like,
let's find an extension, and Mike McCarthy's probably like great,
three four years and they're like, yeah, no, we didn't.
We want to do a year. See how it works
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next year. And Mike mccarr was like, I'm not not
doing it for less than three years. Okay, you know
there's leverage there. What's your leverage if you're Mike McCarthy,
I'll leave. Fine, we'll find somebody will. And so then
becomes the question of all, right, now, what now? Is
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it fair that Mike McCarthy lost his job? Probably not,
you know, probably not. I don't think based upon what
Dak Prescott said, right, because Dak Prescott alluded to the
fact that the defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer, wasn't his choice.
You know, he had Dan Quinn, and you look at
what dan Quinn's doing with Washington, You're like, man, they
(06:38):
lose one in dan Quinn. But what Dak alluded to is, hey,
hold on, now, I like this guy. He didn't get
to choose Mike Zimmer, and Mike Zimmer was a bad
fit for the personnel, and it might have been a
bad fit for Mike McCarthy. So whether it's who gets
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to be my coordinators and who I hire and who
I fire, or who I draft and who I don't draft,
or simply the length of contract, it feels like this
was say, you know what, this ain't gonna work. It's
just not. And if I'm the Dallas Cowboys, and you
can go back and google it, google me go back
and google it. Last year when they lost in the playoffs.
(07:21):
I said, Mike McCarthy's a good coach. He's done a
good job. The Cowboys want to win championships. And there's
a coach out there who's won more championships than any
other coach, and he's available hire him. This is easy.
Now it gets a little murky because he's got a
head coaching job, but it's ten million dollars to get
him out of it. He hasn't hired a full staff.
You can easily move him over, and it would feel
(07:42):
like Carolina got a raw deal. Maybe he leaves his
son in charge, which is the plan all along, and
only gets sped up, or maybe he takes the son
with him. I don't know, and I don't care. But
for Mike McCarthy to walk away is it's it's just
like when you walk into a card shit man, you're like, yeah,
I don't like this deal. I'm gonna walk from it.
(08:03):
And once you walk out of that door, you either
have to be able to get willing to get in
your car and go home, or get in your car
and go home and somebody else might come and buy
that car, or just sign your name and let's go.
Look happened to Tyron Lou. Tyron Lou wanted more than
three years with the LA Lakers, and Rob Pulink is like,
(08:26):
we're not giving anybody more than three years. So Tyrone
Lo's now the coach of the Clippers. He's been the
coach of the Clippers for what the last six seven years.
And Tyron Loo's really, really, really good. But you know
what he didn't get to do. He didn't get to
coach Lebron James, didn't get to win another championship. Mike
McCarthy could very easily get another job. He's won a
(08:47):
Super Bowl, they were in the playoffs all except for
what this year with Cowboys, and they get and they
did well. And Dak Prescott, I'm sure would call anybody
and say, like, I love that guy. I like playing
for that guy. He used to hire that guy. But
he won't be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys anymore.
And there is something special to being that head coach.
(09:11):
I'm not surprised by it in the least. The only
thing I'm surprised by is the fact that they signed
Dak Prescott to a long term deal, so they're in
that buy now, which there's zero possibility of I don't
believe of drafting Shador Sanders and bringing in Dion Sanders,
especially after Jerry Jones comments, which I do think we're
(09:32):
accurate about the true gift of Deon Sanders. His ability
to recruit more so than his ability to coach, would
just I don't think it would work. But it's me.
I said this last year. Your whole thing in Dallas
is we haven't won in the playoffs in forever, and
you have a guy who's won more in the playoffs
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than anybody else. Why woul't you hire Belichick? Meanwhile, Mike
Rabel's gone. He's with the New England Patriots. That was
broken yesterday, and then of course he had the press
conference today. So you know, look, when you're a coach,
you don't like when anybody lose their job. But I'm
(10:15):
going to guess that part of this was Mike McCarthy
and whether it's his ego or whether it's just the understanding,
there's other jobs out there I can go get and
if you don't want to give me a three or
four year deal, I'd rather go and take some other
job and build another winner. Then I will stay here
in Dallas. When next year we might not have a
chance to win because there's so many holes on this
(10:35):
football team. And oh yeah, by the way, I don't
feel like I have a chance if I can't hire
the people that I want to hire to run my
defense while I run the offense. So my read on
it is sometimes relationships just come to an end, business relationships,
personal relationships. And if it was as simple as Mike
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McCarthy saying I want this defensive coordinator, I want this
number of years, I want this, this and this, and
they said no, and he goes well, then I walk
and they go okay, then that's actually a mature end
to a relationship. Stug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
(11:19):
pH Byer, I know you were on air yesterday. You
guys had some really good stuff on air yesterday. As
I was driving and listen to you guys. How much
of the hire you on from Ohio State winning.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
By the way, Oh that was magnificent. That was that
was truly something a crazy game. Sometimes the greatest games
just aren't perfect. There's greatness and then there's you know,
mistakes and everything involved. But yeah, that was h top
top ten play I think for sure. In my lifetime,
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no doubt about it. In Ohio State history, the Sawyer
sack and returned.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Sawyer was so good, and he was so good. He's
been so good in the play. He's just a tremendous player.
You know what he is. He's who Andy Katzimware was
supposed to be. How about that one? That guy's That
guy's a monster. I actually I have you know, my
dad was an Ohio State alum. I have no true
tire connection to high state football. I love watching thirty
(12:17):
three play football, Like that kid plays so hard, so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of full circle. They played
different positions, obviously, but Ohio kids and Sawyer, so it
was a great basketball player.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, in high school, I saw I saw him Like
I was watching those videos this weekend. I was like, man,
can you imagine Sure matching up with him in high school?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
But being one of the guys that wanted to return,
obviously he was at the center of the Michigan flag
planting controversy and trying to rip that there's yeah, he is.
He will go down in Ohio State lore for what
has transpired over the last two months. Not that his
career wasn't great up to that point, but the chapters
(13:01):
that have now been added, it's truly been remarkable. And
I said top ten it may even be it may
even be top five for how how crazy that was?
I mean Texas at the one yard line and then.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, and you know, it's it's really interesting on how
like I almost feel like social media and I love
just you know, like I have loved my time on
X and I'm not like one of these like I'm
moving away from X whatever, but I do feel like
I need to find a way to clean up my
algorithm for people that I actually think I because so
(13:37):
many of these people like it's just bizarre opinions, you know,
it's like just bizarre, like what are we actually like?
That was a great football game. Texas lost my two touchdowns,
but I mean one of them is at the end's
returned for like what are yard away from tying their
yard away from tying the game? It was a great
game and a kid made a great play and how defense.
(14:02):
You know, his coach Jim Knowles does an incredible job.
It's you know, like they they found a way. It
really was. It's one of those where score not indicative
of how competitive that football game was. Like I just
I watched. I have some of the same feelings with
the with the Penn State Notre Dame game. We talked
about this on Friday, which is like, we go and
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we crush these dudes as head coaches or quarterbacks. And
the truth is, it really comes down to one or
two plays. It wasn't like you know, the Indiana or
SMU or the Tennessee these blowouts. You know, it's like
it really came down to one or two plays. And
I don't care what the final score is whatever, Like
somebody's not a choker, or somebody didn't choke because they
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ran a play that you know that Sawyer blows up
because he's an unbelievable football player. You know, Like, what
are we actually doing here? I don't know. I I
enjoyed the hell of those two semi finals. Enjoyed the
hell of the two semi finals. Uh. Your reaction to
Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Part ways surprise, considering the information that we got last
week that these sides were going to be talking about
a deal and that permission was denied by Jerry Jones
at this time. But I think you said something earlier
in this segment that is one hundred percent true. It's
probably best for the Cowboys that this happens, and maybe
for Mike McCarthy as well. Maybe he goes to the Bears,
(15:21):
maybe he goes to the Saints. But I do think
that in the end, if Jerry Jones is willing to pay,
and I would hope that he is, but I think
that they're going to probably come out in a better
situation than they were if they would have kept McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, maybe, Again, depends on the higher it depends
out all fits together, you know. And the other thing
you learn again, I know you know this stance. I'm
not being condescending towards people who know sports. It's as
much as we make it out about the quarterback or
the head coach, or the defense coordinator or the offense square.
(15:58):
It all has to kind of work to other, right,
It all has to work together. Like I'll give you
an example. I think Dan Quinn's doing a hell of
a job, but you know he hired Cliff Kingsbury, who
fits perfectly with Jayden Daniels. It all kind of works together, right,
Like it's a much easier offense for him to process
because that offense is similar to one of the ones
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he ran in college. Like it all kind of works together.
It's not about one hire, it's about the whole thing.
And it felt like the Cowboys this year were disconnected
between defense and offense. It just did you know, so
I'm it probably is. It's definitely has a chance to
be the best thing for the Cowboys, and it might
(16:41):
be the best thing for Mike McCarthy because the likely
it is he wasn't going to win next year, and
if they was on a one year deal, then he'd
be out of a job. And right now there's a
lot of jobs open, and some of them have a
quarterback and they want him to lead their football team.
Maybe or maybe not. Maybe he's done. If not, like
if at the end of the day he's got twenty
million dollars in the bank and he got to coach
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the Packers and the Cowboys. That's not a bad gig,
not a bad game. No, no sign me here for
that one sign After that, you got a lot of
things to get to, a lot, a lot, a lot.
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(18:04):
high where you have four straight days of football. You're like,
oh man, that was good. Plus like we legit had
four Honestly, Saturday was probably the only day. And if
you like basketball or some great college basketball that night
at Utah State win what a game at De Glenn's
Spectrum Events Center. And by the way, Jared Calhoun is
the head coach, the first year head coach at Utah State.
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They have an unbelievable year. There's sixteen and one. He
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Just a coach who's been through it and went from
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type in all Ball Doug Gottlieb. You can check that
one out anyway. Thursday, Friday, Sunday awesome football games. But
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there are things that we each And when I say we,
I'm talking about Sam who's on the ones and twos,
Jay stew who's our esteem producer. Of course Dan Bayer,
who you heard yesterday on Fox Sports trading here every
day here in the Doug Gottlieb Show. We each have
different things we loved, different things we hate, and every
Monday we recap them.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
What did you love God, I love you and what
did you hate?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
These Claire Hayes do do do do?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Love love, love, hate, hate hate. Let's start with Dan Byer,
because he loves his Buckeyes. They won. I don't know
if that's what he'd loved from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I'm just I give you the floor.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It is.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
What transpired on Friday night at the Cotton Bowl, and
it has been a great fun ride, considering the lowest
of lows following the loss to Michigan. But I mentioned
the Zach Jack Sawyer touchdown, the sack, and then the
ensuing touchdown against Texas, and I said earlier top ten
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possible moment in Ohio State history, at least in my
lifetime of almost forty eight years and forty years of
watching Ohio State football. There were a bunch of moments
from that two thousand and two season Doug and then
he had the National championship a decade ago with Urban
Meyer in the first year of that playoff. But what
I loved about Friday Night was obviously the ending, but
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it's also what I love about college football. And we
talk about the product of the NFL lately being substandard,
not up to what we want, want necessarily want it
to be. There is some sort of charm in college
football when it's not played perfectly.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It's so and there's something about that. It's getting the
ball into the one yard line. Not that a goal
line stand is something that you don't see in college football,
but just certain plays happening. Sure, We've seen Daniel Jones
stumble on a long run with the Giants, but Will
Howard unable to keep his feet on the on the
fourth and two run. But still you also get periods
of greatness in that game, and whether it be a
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play by Jack Sawyer or Trayvon Henderson and what he
did on the screenplay. A lot of people pointing out
just the effort of g Scott Junior the tight end
on the third down to try to get extra yards
that allowed Ohio State to go for that fourth down
that Will Howard got. Yeah, there's just something about it.
And I would say as much as well, like Penn
State and Notre Dame probably had some of the same
(21:28):
aspects of it as well. I wasn't tied in deep
into that game as it was with Ohio State. But
there's greatness and then there's sometimes just eighteen year old
nineteen year old kids making mistakes and it happens, and
that's the charm of college football. But obviously Friday night
was a huge, huge win for the buck Eyes, and
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a week from tonight now against Notre Dame, that's my
love of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know what's interesting is I used to call the
buck Eyes when that last championship team and er Jim
Tressel the luck Eyes, like how many games did they
pull off in close? And granted this was a close,
get a lot closer than two touchdowns because as you
went out, Texas at the one yard line had five
plays to score. But that wasn't luck. They won that
football game. They won that football game, and I, you know,
(22:15):
without a, without a, without a what was it dog
in the fight? I was coaching a game at the time,
and I came out and I watched it from the
start start to finish, and I was like, man, that
was a really cool football game. I felt rewarded for
watching it. Sam, what'd you love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Mine love of the weekend is not well, let's give
that another try there. Maybe it's just smoke out here.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I'm still getting over a little COVID voice plus the smoke.
But I definitely don't love that. But I do love
this is not football, really did, But I definitely love
what the Iowa men's basketball team did on Saturday. I
felt coming into that game against Indiana they just really
didn't have much of an identity this year. They were
coming off of a comeback overtime win over Nebraska, which was,
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you know, encouraging to see. But this Iowa team laid
the hammer on an Indiana team that I don't know
how good this Indiana team is, but they came in
four and one into this game at Carver Hockey Arena,
and Iowa was a slight favorite about four four and
a half points, but by the five minutes into the
second half, they were just they were up by twenty
on the Hoosiers. So this was an encouraging win for
(23:24):
Iowa men's basketball. You know, they've kind of taken a
back seat to the women's program for the last few years. Now,
the women's teams kind of fading. They truly love to
have Caitlyn Clark back, but the women have won or
lost three in a row and the men now are
above five hundred to the Big Ten, so it's encouraging.
Hopefully they can get back to the NCAA tournament. But
they led the they laid the gas down on the Hoosiers.
So that that was what I loved from the weekend.
(23:47):
Jase too, you know what I love. I love a
stute good commentary. If I'm going to invest time and
sit down on my couch and watch a game. I
want something to be done professionally, and I wanted to
be a stute. I wanted to be concise and insightful.
(24:08):
And you know who offered a great contrast to Tony
Romo and Tom Brady, who are really bad at their job,
Kirk Herbstreet on Saturday Night. Kirk has found his voice
this year, and I don't know what it is. Maybe
because he has the two jobs, he's making a lot
of money. I know he had that comment a few
(24:29):
weeks back about Ohio State Fringe and all that stuff,
and he's just kind of found his voice in these broadcasts.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
I think this year. I thought his first couple of
years with Amazon were kind of vanilla. But Saturday Night
he delivered a great broadcast. And then he offered this
during the game with Al Michael's about the Steelers again, like.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
This a chess match. It's a cliche, but this is
a chess match two grand masters.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
If I were a Steelers fan, I think that would
consider me. Just watching this first tast.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
In the postseason, you're getting dominated.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I don't see any fight, I don't see any any pushback.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
It's one thing that lose Xowas against a really talented
of offense.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
But where the hell is the fight? This is the
Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
There's nothing.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
You know, Doug, maybe that the next team meeting prep
Median will be a little uncomfortable with the Steelers. Maybe yeah,
maybe relationships are compromised. But it's that kind of honesty
that best serves the viewers. Good for Kirk Curbstreet, he's
found his voice. He's enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Uh, completely completely and totally agree with you that if
everybody thinks it was fine, it's not a good broadcast, right,
it's not a good broadcast. Well, I guess this is
a little personal one for me, but this is great.
(25:58):
So Saturday we played against set up Milwaukee. They're our rival,
and look last time we played him, Uh, they kind
of punked us and I was a six point game
with a couple minutes to go, and we had two
bad turnovers. See I think we ended up losing by
eleven ten or eleven. Uh, But again, considering my young bunch,
(26:21):
and you have to measure up, I thought we improved
and uh, but was weird? Is so? My dad coached
in Milwaukee when I was a kid when I was born,
and a couple of his players were there, and my
babysitter from when I was a baby was there, Like
that's weird, wow, And that was kind of cool anyway.
(26:43):
It was just I don't know, I loved it. I
thought it was how old she is?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
He?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
He was just a dude. I don't know. I don't
know anything about.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It was liketer.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I've had a couple of male babysitters going on. I
used to friends, hand.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I used to watch you when you were a kid,
and he's like, Wendy, my sister Greg and you you're
just a little baby and you were like two years
old and run around the house and it's like, damn,
that is crazy. So I don't know, it's cool moment
for me. All right, let's get to the other side.
What'd you hate from this weekend? Hate from this weekend? Oh?
(27:23):
You know, our resident hater is that's Jason Stewart. Floor's yours?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I hate that's Sam?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Wait, how come he didn't say say it? What say it?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Thanks Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Isn't that we're crossing the streams here, aren't we?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Doug, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He No, he does it with everything.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Okay, all right, I was just so.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
I was just so upset that Sam, somehow his triple
X fantasies made it onto the air a minute ago.
He's talking about a babysitter and Sam goes right to
how hot is she?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Did?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I was just offended that he didn't think like it
would be a guy. He just immediately said how old?
How old was that?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
How old is this person?
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Now?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Geez, I'm just curious. So I don't know, you didn't
say you said how old is she?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
You know I was even one summer. I was a many,
a babysitter for an. No, the damage has been done,
A little guy has been done. It's okay, it's nothing
wrong with being a many. Carry on.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
I hated seeing the reaction to the Justin Herbert thing,
like it would be contradiction for me to say that
I would was disappointed in the Charger Saturday because I
think I said, after like seven weeks of the season
that anything they do after this is gravy. So I
can't really be upset that they lost a playoff game.
They actually made it to the playoffs, But I was
(28:49):
upset at the reaction that Justin Herbert got after the game.
Everybody wanted to pile on. I didn't know how many
people were lined up to kick that guy in the
teeth when he failed. That was just a pointing and
I asked on the group text and it went unresponded to.
So I'm gonna ask it on the air. Quentin Johnson
sucks again because, like I remember, specifically last week, Doug
(29:12):
made the comment and giving the credentials of Tom to
LESCo that he's he's done well. The last couple of
drafts he got Brock Bauers and Quinton Johnson, and I
remember at the time thinking Quentin Johnson is still a mystery.
Like he mixed in greatness this season, which is dropping
Blaytant passes. He didn't take advantage of the passes that
(29:35):
were thrown his way this weekend. He ran a half
yard out when the team needed two yards. So that
was frustrating. Anyways, people piling on Justin Herbert afterwards, and
it took on a racial tone. It was just unenjoyable.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I listen, that's not gonna give you what I hate,
but yeah, the I just think people look like clowns
the jumping onto RG three like, oh, we gotta have
a discuss. I hope the media, you know, calls out
Justin Herbert for this, Like what are you talking about, dude?
Justin Herbert's awesome RG three is he's he legit believes that.
(30:14):
I think he legit believes that race is the reason
he's not still in the NFL. You know, I so
oh thing I think of. No, Herbert wasn't good. He wasn't,
but he had a great year with a limited roster.
And uh, he has enough equity with the Chargers, with
most few in the NFL and the most notably Jim Harbaugh. Right,
(30:38):
Like Jim Harbaugh has forgotten more about the quarterback position
than Rchie three and and the rest of us will
ever know. And if Jim Harbaugh swears by the guy,
then you know what I'm gonna swear by the guy.
He through three interceptions all year. His best wide receiver
was Lad McConkey, who's a good player but probably should
be a number two. You have a possession guy with
(30:59):
a new offense and a lot of injuries, especially in
the offensive backfield, Like, I don't know if you're gonna
hold against him. All these dudes are having bad playoff games.
It's when you have multiple bad playoff games in a
row and your team underachieves. They overachieved this year. That's it.
(31:19):
Damn Bier. Would you hate this for you?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I had two things that I that I hated and
I was gonna go with the other one. But on
the heels of that, and this happened with the Chargers loss.
It happens with the Steelers loss. It actually happens with
every team that loses. Are people immediately going to the
offseason for whatever team loses, So the Chargers lose, Chargers
need this offseason. Like we are at the two minute warning,
(31:44):
the game's not even over. We have a whole entire
offseason to talk about this stuff. It's the immediacy to
be It's almost like this rush. So they can put
out their tweets and point to it in March or
April or next year in October, so they can recite
and see I said it back in January. This is
(32:06):
what the Steelers needed to do, or this is what
the Chargers needed to do. But they do it at
a point that it's just so games not even over with.
It's the last thing that's on my mind. If I'm
a Chargers fan, if I'm a Steelers fan, if I'm
a Broncos fan. Like, there's just this suddenness, and I
just feel that everybody jumps to the opportunity. Not everybody,
(32:27):
but a select few on social media, some more prominent
than others. Just is really annoying. We're gonna have eight
months to talk about all of this stuff. Why do
I need it? At the two minute warning, as the
team is about to.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Lose, I saw something on Twitter that Dan despises. It
was actually a former family member at Fox Sports Radio.
He tweeted out, I've got twenty minutes in an uber
fire away your questions.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
You love that, don't you?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I can't stand it because it is so oh disrespectful
to the followers and fans and listeners of their time
in your time, Like, I've got nothing to do. I'm
in an uber. I'm on a plane because otherwise I
have nothing else better to do than to talk to
(33:18):
you people.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
I'm entertain me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, I have done that. I'm just I'm gonna be honestly.
I have done it. Now does this help it all? Dan?
If I do it and say like, hey, I haven't
done it since being coach fire Away or is this no?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It should be like, hey, guess what this Thursday at
six o'clock, I'm gonna be taking your questions. We're going
to be doing a thing here. That's fine, it set aside.
It is so like because you can't do anything in
an uber, you really can't do anything on an airplane.
Maybe watch a movie or just time to kill. But
it also feels that you are putting yourself on a
pedestal that people would actually care what your opinion woul
(33:56):
would be on a lot of things. And I don't
mean to sound disrespectful to you, you doug on it, but
that is just how I feel when anybody does it
of coming coming guess what I have to guess what
I have to say about this in time that doesn't
matter to me that it just rubs me the wrong way.
I cannot stand it. I was sam My hate again
(34:19):
with the voice right.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I'm sorry, I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I don't know, Sam, when when you go through puberty,
we're gonna give your own segment.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
That's a second time going through peberty here. Apparently my
hate of the weekend is trying to size up the
Green Bay Packers season. Doug, what would you say their
identity was Doug this year running the ball? Josh Jacobs. Yeah,
but I just don't feel I don't. I don't have
a feel from this season. They started off the year
(34:48):
with a loss to the Eagles, the end of the
year with the loss.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Of the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You have a feel for the season, it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I don't. Let let's go yes, yes, let me let
me go back. It's not a good feel though.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
It's not an I agree your feel because that's accurate.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
But I don't have like something I'm gonna remember it.
There's a there's a scene in an episode of Seinfeld
where Newman, Kramer and I believe Jerry are all on reconnaissance.
They're talking about days of the week and how they
you know, Sunday is a feel, Friday is a feel, Tuesday.
Tuesday doesn't really have a feel. That's how I feel
about this season. They didn't do anything in the division.
(35:22):
They didn't six yep, they let the they let the Bears,
you know, break their ten game losing streak even eleven,
thank you? And who what were their best wins? Maybe
over a rams team that was injury ridden at the
beginning of the season trying to figure things out. Maybe
the Texans. Yeah, yeah, I know, but that was again
(35:43):
kind of the first third of the season, first half
of the season, and I just I just come away
with this season feeling like the Packers were kind of
a distant, a third fiddle in the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Never beat a team that they were that was better
than they were, and didn't lose to a team that
was worse than they were. It was just blah, Yeah,
I mean the Bears game, it's who cares, It's Sweek eighteen.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, And and Jordan Love didn't play in the second half.
And look, in fairness, you know, they lost one of
their top two wide receivers and lost their second best
wider inturatment in Eagles game. But you're right, And I
think the big question is Jordan Love had There are
moments where you're like yes, and their moments you're like,
h did we have to go and give him the
(36:27):
biggest contract or could we have let him play out
the year and then negotiate with him the exact same
deal And right now would it be the exact same deal?
I don't know. So look, it's still a very young team. Now,
what they do to fix it to get them over
the hump, we'll find out. We'll find out.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Because Doug the end of last year had a feel
right because they went into Dallas.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
No, it's hope.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
There's hope, optimism, hope and last way optimism hope.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Right last year, you go, hey, they had to lead,
they lost it to Serfrancis. Can be like, hey, San
francisc goes better. They got to figure it out now.
It even though they're young football team, you still are
left going like, yeah, I don't know if that young
excuse works. I think the young excuse works for just
this year, and then I think it goes away next year.
With Jordan Love, he's got to stop turn the ball over,
(37:15):
he's got to stop always trying to force it down
the field. It feels like a young qu It feels
like farv and that far of stuff doesn't work in
today's foot game. I don't think. I don't, so I'm
with you. I think they do have a feel. They
feel like they underachieved, and I think that's a fair feel.
It's fair. Now, there could be reasons by it, and
maybe we overestimated how good they were, and that they're
(37:37):
too young to really figure it out yet. But I
think that's a fair feel, it's fair, you know, still
like they got a chance to be really really good,
but they got to show us something. And again like
the Niner game, that doesn't even any score, you know,
because the Niners weren't whole right, weren't close to weren't
close to being blow up win.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
But again against what competition here correct eleven wins And
now I don't know if I felt a whole lot
from the season.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I just again, I'll I'm gonna do the hate thing over,
you know, like, look, when you play a football game,
when you play a basketball game, somebody loses, okay, And
when that team loses, it doesn't mean that somebody has
to get fired for every loss, especially in the playoffs. Well,
(38:24):
that somebody sucks so that they're a choker. Sometimes you
just lose. Now, there are elements, and choking to me
is when you have a win in hand and you
dramatically underachieve because of the pressure of the moment, and
especially if you do it time and again. You know,
Steve Sarkesian's an idiot, and you know yours isn't good
enough and justin Herbert like, we have reached this such
(38:48):
complete over the top negativity on every loss. It doesn't
mean anybody wants to lose again. I can only use
I can use myself an example. I don't want to
make it too obvious. Our record is not good as
two and sixteen. We had one a game since mid November,
got it. Okay, Yes, our best player has been hurt
for a month. Okay, we got a young roster, all that.
(39:11):
But again, if you watch the games for me, I'll
be proud of my guys. They competed. Are there things
they absolutely should do better? Sure, but we are getting
better now. For pick a team that lost, like again
for Texas, do you want to lose for a section
straight year in the in the semi finals? No, but
they're at the one foot line. And this is a
Texas program that before Sark took it over, it was
(39:33):
when will Texas be back? Now they're the only team
remaining from the SEC. They seem to have stabilized it.
They are back as one of the nation's elite, and
we completely throw that away because they couldn't punch it
in from the one yard line against an awesome defense.
And Jack Sawyer who made great plays. Okay, great plays.
The same goes for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Like.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Look, the Chargers were the laughing stock of the NFL
last year, fair fair dam byer. Yes, okay, were they
laughingstock this year?
Speaker 6 (40:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
They were a solid football team. They took a massive step,
massive step forward, did it Herbert play? Well? No, no,
but you don't have a lot to work with and
by what we have. By the way, the Texans made
that same jump to respectability last year. Okay, so they
had the experience of it from last year and then
this year took advantage of it. So I just I
(40:26):
hate where we are as I don't even care about
the uneducated sports fan. I care about people who cover
sports who immediately fall to this guy's stings, this guy's joker.
We got to have a discussion about, No, we don't
teams win, teams lose. We got to have step away,
take a breath, take some perspective, look at the game,
look at the season, and then we judge who's doing
their job and who's not doing their job. And that's
(40:50):
that's love and hate.
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Adam Kaplan joins us Fox Sports Radio is NFL Insider Plus.
He's the host of Inside the Birds podcast. I look,
I know you're a Philly guy. Can you explain to
(42:50):
me how it appeared to everyone watching the replay that
though there was a legit fumble, the Packers had the
fumble record and then it goes under the score like
you could see it on screen. How on replay was
that not Packers ball?
Speaker 7 (43:06):
I mean, I'm not a I happy to live here,
but it doesn't I could care less who wins or
loses I'm not you know, I cover thirty two teams,
so just to be clear. But by the way, there
should have been a penalty and then opening kickoff. Also
the arn Burk's the veteran linebacker who now will take
over for Nakobe Dean. He lowered his head to initiate
contact that should have been called. That was not called.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
I agree that that the reps kind of blew it.
It was an odd game, like there were some very
bad misscalls and there were some overacting by receivers by
both these particularly Green Bays receivers were acting.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
They just threw their hands up. You know you do that.
There's a don't talking to coaches.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
Let's say the ball's overthrown, but a guy's near you,
or it makes contact, just throw your hands up like
there should be. There should be a penalty. There are
a number of plays like that in this game. And
doesn't make up for the case that Green Bay did
not play well. No Dredan Love especially, Let's call like
it is. Neither quarterback played well, but the Eagles sort
of severed mostly because of their defense of the run game.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, a lot of criticism of all the losing quarterbacks,
but Jordan Love now a lot of criticism of them.
How fair do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
It's fair because look, they give them that he had
a proven deal. Last year. He played very well.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Obviously, they blew out the Cowboys and the wild card round,
and they knew after that season that he was going
to be their guy, so they took ever his contract.
There needs to be a level of play that's consistent.
See the thing with Love is like he gets off
to this slow start turning the ball over. They decided
to put in Josh Shacob's hands and make Jordan Love
(44:41):
less of a factor, and they kind of could settling
him down. He was able to go seven straight games
with out throwing an interception. Then yesterday a number of
interceptions they had for turnovers. Overall, they lost a turnover
battle for to nothing. It is it's very fair because
he's just very inconsistent. He's sort of a gunslinger and
(45:01):
you got to make better decisions with the football. I
know that they lost two of their receivers yesterday and
they were without Christiana Watson, so they were down for
quite a number of snaps with their top three receivers.
That's certainly a problem. He forced the ball, but he's
got to be better. He's a very talented quarterback, by
the way, the Packers love him. He's a pretty accountable
guy from what I'm told. And they got to get
(45:23):
themselves together. This is not what they're expecting. They're expecting
to play better. But you know, overall, in a game
where you know the Eagles can't throw the football to
save their life, yesterday they struggled. They started off well,
Hurts got off the good start six or six and
then he really regressed. You would think they'd be able
to hang in it after that, but nothing seemed to
go right on either side of the football.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah. I don't know if you saw Dan Orlowski's tweet
where he went through and he's like, there's nobody open.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
There were some plays, Yes, that's definitely true. But I
could tell you that Hurts moves sometimes when he shouldn't
have moved. I heard this morning. I'm so already grated
the tape. There's sometimes he shouldn't move, he moves. He
still bailed some. Now, yes, there were some plays where
guys were not open. In fact, you could see that
last yesterday watched the game on Fox because of the
deeper routes that Kellen Moore, the offensive coordinator of the
(46:13):
Eagles to play caller, had uh, the routes are a
bit a little bit too long.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Now.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
What happened was because they saw her toll on the
ball too long. Third quarter, they moved the past targets
up and he got rid of it faster, which is
really what he needs to do.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Adam Kaplan joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Stop. You've heard this before, but
apparently AJ Brown wasn't happy with the number of targets.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
And then he's then he's a blocking receiver yesterday.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Then he's he's reading his book on the sideline. He
doesn't he doesn't want to answer questions. Afterwards, he says,
not about you. But like they won a playoff game.
What what really goes on in the conversations about managing
A J. Brown during this playoffs?
Speaker 7 (46:55):
So, okay, let me, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you
Cliftons version, not just this, I'm gonna give you his
entire career. I could tell you from the Titans, they
absolutely loved him. Coaching staff connected, he was a leader. Now,
he didn't practice a lot he's had. The big reason
why John Robinson, the general manager then of the Titans,
straight him to Philly or was going to trade him
and made him a very low ball off for which A. J.
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Brown thought was insulting, is that the Titans believed that
the long term viability of both of his knees one
worse than the other. It was going to have him
potentially short in his career, and they did not want
to guarantee much money past two years. They just were
not sure if he could have a full career, whether
he could play Toys thirty. It was only twenty seven,
(47:37):
but there was a concern there, so they traded him
on drafting. There were other teams in volve, but Philly
wound up giving what the Titans went. Obviously, the trade
has not worked out at all. It's worked out very
well for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
He's got a bad left knee.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
You might remember Doug in the Pittsburgh game where Dalen
Hurts was terrific. They threw the ball to run the
clock out, not run it, and then AJ Brown unfortunately
got tackled awkwardly and he's been hurt since then with
his left knee. Not practicing very much. He talked about
a Thursday. It's bothering him. Now, this stuff about reading
the book is bizarre to me. No one's going to
(48:10):
tell him what to do. I mean, as long as
he's paying attention, it's not going to be a problem.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I've not heard yet. Now I have to look in this.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
I was not aware that he was having a book
on the sidelines, So I'll be looking into this one.
This is certainly, in my twenty seven years of covering
the National footb League, one of the most unique situations
I've ever seen. I've seen guys eat on the sidelines
when you're not supposed to. I've seen fights on the sidelines,
which is absolutely normal between coaches and coaches, coaches and players.
But I've not seeing a guy read a book, a
self help book. Okay, but that's a little odd to me.
(48:41):
But I was caught by surprise like everyone was. And
by the way, that book now is going off the
digital bookshelves on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
How about that?
Speaker 7 (48:50):
This classic you as a coach, by the way, how
would you handle it?
Speaker 3 (48:55):
I forgot your your coach? Tell us, coach, well, how would.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
You handle if guy? If a guy's reading a book.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Well basket was a little hard even shorter bench.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
So no, I mean it's the same thing. Like I can't.
I don't pay attention to what's going on down there.
They tell me after the game, like this guy, you know,
and like we were. I was actually really proud of
my group, like we've we've we've trimmed the bench in
terms of a lot of people who were on it,
just because I only want positivity on that bench. It's
too it's too hard, right, What would you do? I
(49:21):
would I would just call him in like what in
the actual are you doing? Right? And if it was
if it was a guy who had was dealing with
some mental stuff like I have a couple dealing with
some anxiety. Like hey, coaches sow ideal with an.
Speaker 7 (49:33):
Which would be fair to say he's trying to keep
his emotions in check.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
And you just talked about the past targets.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah A J.
Speaker 7 (49:40):
Brown, I should add Doug before you throw it back
to you. Hear that He's made it very clear that
he does not want to be like you know, people
started bring up tarall Owens when he was handing about
the targets, and he was unhappy last year with the
direction of the offense. He didn't want to be that
guy he's talking. He said, don't even go there. Yeah,
he's a really good teammate, by the way, but this
situation with a book, So what.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Do you mean he's a really good teammate. I disagree
with that. Hang on, there's other things you can do
to be a really good team.
Speaker 7 (50:07):
This is weird, Okay, hang on. Yeah, mentoring younger players,
having having the back of everybody.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yeah, okay, now.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
But.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
It's the whole I will tell you. Okay, So it's
the whole thing, though, Right. You can't do one or
two things and say, well, I'm a good teammate because
I mentor young guys. Okay, that's great, Okay, but they
also watch you throw a fit for not getting targets.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
And I don't care care the fit part.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I'd be okay, well even in this, even this, even
after the game, right, if you go, like, why are
you reading the book? Like, honestly, like, I'm dealing with
some anxiety, I'm dealing with pressure. I want to perform.
I get a little frustrated. This is how I find
my balance, right, Instead, it's I don't want to talk
about it. It's not about you. It tells everybody that
he's got a problem. He's drying. Yeah, by the way,
(50:59):
negative attention to himself. All that should be celebrated is
we won the game.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
I agree the game. And by the way, I would
tell you that Aj will have any he does.
Speaker 7 (51:09):
He always always does interviews in the locker room, even
when it's things are bad. Yeah, he'll do that interview.
I think Thursday most likely. Okay, usually does it Thursday
or Friday. But anyway, I expect him to have a
little bit of a different attitude. I'd be surprised if
he did.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, or he'll be gone. Who's the next Cowboys coach?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
All right?
Speaker 7 (51:28):
So and Jerry Jones, by the way, literally within five seconds,
just the Cowboys just sent me the statement from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Let me see here.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
Yeah, okay, now, now he's probably confirming that that that
Mike will not return.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
So all right, let me explain something to you.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
Okay, I could confirm a couple of things that are
may or may not be out there, but I'm gonna
explain why it's been out there from several people. And
I've known about this for some time that if it
didn't get done, would be the number of years.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
But this idea they didn't.
Speaker 7 (52:00):
Negotiate is It's not true. They absolutely talked with they
talked to yours. I mean they talked about framework. They
never talked money. They never got that far. But Jerry
Jones and his agent Donyee, you know, they kind of
knew where this was headed. Both sides wanted to They
wanted to be back with each other, but Jerry because
(52:21):
of the way things have ended. And remember, in fact,
I remember you and I. You may not remember this,
but you and I you were incredulous how McCarthy could
come back. And I was not disagreeing with you. Okay,
this time last year, Mike, I've Doug. I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it. I was with you.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
I'm like, you just got blown out at home and embarrassed.
Speaker 7 (52:40):
And this year you're eight and nine, and I think
I think Jerry Jones in his early eighties is just unrealistic,
almost out of touch. Why would you think that a
short term deal after you let him coach out his
final you would be acceptable? Like why would you the
entitlement of Jerry Jones to think this? I'm going to
call it like an is like it's part of my
(53:00):
job is to not only give you information, sure, but
to unders give people an idea of it's not done
this way with normal teams, Like this is not You
talk about thirty years here since the Super Bowl, Like
there's a reason like this is bizarre. Now my old
colleague from ESP and Ed Werder, and I'm going to
give him credit. I know this, but I'll give credit
first because this is the first chance I've had to
(53:22):
talk about it. Kellen Moore's going to be on their list.
See here's what most people don't understand. Jerry Jones wanted
Kelly More to stay. Micha McCarthy did not want him.
Michae McCarthy was told when.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
He didn't want the gold Boy there, he.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Didn't want him. He didn't.
Speaker 7 (53:38):
First of all, Kellen doesn't run a West Coast offense. Okay,
that's the number one issue.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
They didn't see I. I on the structure of the
of the offense.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
And he found a way to get Look, they got
blown out, so Kellen was the fall guy. And now
he's in Philly. So they love Kellen like they brought
him up the game. You know, he became a backup
for them for number years than quarterback coach in the
euroc They love his offense, so he's he's going to
be on their list.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
There's no question about it. I wouldn't rule out.
Speaker 7 (54:07):
Of defensive coach, but I think more more than likely
to be an offensive coaching. By the way, listen, let's
call it like it is here with Kellen Moore and
Jalen Hurts. Like Callen has not coached a quarterback like Kurtz,
this is different, like Hurts is a different style of quarterback.
Remember now, Kellen Moore's already coach Dak Prescott. He knows
what to expect there. This has been not the greatest
(54:30):
marriage in Philly. I know that the Eagles are great.
They're now fifteenth three at the end of the season
of fourteenth three, they're going to move on to play
the winner of tonight's game in Philly on Sunday afternoon.
But the Eagles passing offense has not been quite I
think what Eagles will probably tell you it should be.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, not so, no, it's not. It's not. Guys, aren't open.
Seems a little stale? Yeah, I'm with you. Last thing,
last thing does Mike McCarthy get a job.
Speaker 7 (54:59):
Yes, yeah, i'd be I don't do percentages, but if
you look at the available candidates that are out there
other than Ben Johnson for the second straight years of
the guy, it's just not a good list. And by
the way, you know, Mike Vrabel was on as I
understand it too, our lists and the Patriots knew this,
so they made sure this got done like as soon
as they were allowed to. Yeah, so it's not it's
(55:20):
not a great list this year. And the other thing
is Doug when I ranked these jobs from people I
spoke with, sure, I mean, you look at the Raiders' job.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I know that.
Speaker 7 (55:30):
You know, there's some people around the league that think
that Tom Brady's going to steer Ben Johnson there. Why
would Ben Johnson have any interest in that job. It's
a bad job. It's not a great It's just I
am O'Connell's been a nice story. Is probably better back
up if you just look at the over roster's not
very good.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
So let's see what happens with Ben Johnson. This is fascinating.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
It is Adam Kaplan, Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider, also
host of Inside the Birds podcast, we'll talk next week.
AD and thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Sounds good. Thanks
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