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Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
It feels like this is like a yearly debate that
we've had for the past couple of years. The Pittsburgh
Steelers have had three coaches in the modern era, right
three coaches Chuck Nole, Bill Kower, Mike Tomlin, and Mike
Tomlin continued his streak of not having a losing season.
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But they collapse down the stretch, and they play good
teams down the stretch, and we're summarily dusted out of
the playoffs by the Baltimore Ravens. We'll leading some to
go hey, time for a change. You know, sometimes messages
just go stale. There was a certain lifeless nature to
the Steelers, and some of it. Some people will blame
it on Tomlin on his act getting stale. I have
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a different perspective on it. I'll share with you one second.
Here's Mike Tomlin earlier today Exit Interviews talking about the
criticism of his job.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I understand the nature of what it is that we do,
the attention and criticism that comes with it. As a
matter of fact, I embrace it, to be quite honest
with you, I enjoy the urgency that comes with what
I do and what we do.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't make.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Excuses for failure.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I own it.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But I also feel like I'm capable, and so as
long as I'm afforded an opportunity to do that, I
will continue. But I certainly understand their frustrations, and probably
more importantly than that, I share.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It stug outlive show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay, so I'll just give you my perspective.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I don't think the lifelessness of the Pittsburgh Steelers is
based upon a lack of quality messaging or reception to
the messaging of Mike Tomlin. They don't have a quarterback
good enough to win them games, and we discussed this
at length. Their quarterback play wasn't good enough in the
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regular season, why would anybody think it'd be good enough
in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I mean, really, since Ben.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Roethlisberger's last year, they haven't had good enough quarterback play.
And it's nothing short of a miracle and the best
most really the most competitive division in football. And I
know the Browns weren't good this year, but the Steelers
were good, the Bengals were talented, especially offensively, and the
Ravens are always very good. To consistently find a way
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to be out of above five hundred, especially with how
very average for the last half decade below average the
quarterback play has been.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think that's a sign of great coaching. I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I understand everybody has. It comes to a run, comes
to an end. But considering they had Justin Fields, who
nobody really wanted in the NFL to be a starter,
and Russell Wilson, who nobody wanted an NFL to be
a starter, and those were his two starters this year
and he found a way to win, you know, double
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digit games. I just have a hard time finding fault
with Mike Tomlin, his coaching staff and his messaging. Get
a better quarterback, and let's really see what he can do.
I feel like George Pickens is a malcontent because of
his act. I actually understand some of it because he
hasn't played with a good quarterback. But George Pickens is
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a mal content.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'm just I'm not a move on from Tomlin guy.
And I do understand the idea you have. Hey, well,
maybe if he goes somewhere else, Raiders Cowboys, he gets
a fresh start. I don't think that's the Steeler way.
I think find problem, fixed problem. That's the Steeler way.
And I think they keep him as I think they should.
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You can't judge Mike Tomlin on his aptitude as a
coach when he has a starting starting quarterbacks the last.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Four years.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That are below the level of everybody else in the playoffs,
and that's what he's head, that's what he's dealt with.
You can tell me that Russell Wilson's been to two
Super Bowls, won a Super Bowl before it before the
Denver thing was a Hall of famer. I don't know
if he's a Hall of Famer now, but the fact
is nobody wanted Russell Wilson. Nobody got bought out and
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working for peanuts. The Broncos are paying that, paying for
him to play for the Steelers, and they're all sitting
there nodding their head as they drafted bow Nicks, who's
really good, and Russ Wilson just doesn't have it anymore. Bayer,
do you believe that it's time to move on for my.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Commra Well, Doug, I am happy to tell you that
on December fifteenth of twenty twenty four, I proclaim Mike
Tomlin to be the NFL Coach of the Year. They
lost to the Eagles that day and they didn't win
a game the rest of the season, so maybe I
didn't have the greatest timing in the world with that proclamation.
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I find it very I find the situation obviously unique,
but also very difficult. I am on the side now
that I do think a change needs to be made.
I feel that your arguments are completely one hundred percent fair,
and I think any knee jerk organization would have fired
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Tomlin three years ago. If that was the case, that's
not who the Steelers are. You mentioned the loyalty with
Chuck Noll and Bill Kauer. They're just not going to
do that. I think that they recognize that they haven't
served Mike Tomlin in the best way at the quarterback position.
So I understand all of that, but I look at
it as a fan, as a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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and for as great as their glory days were, and
let's be honest, a lot of the fans today were
enjoying those glory days when they were a kid. I
know what it was like with the Seahawks, and when
the Seahawks through the interception at the one yard line
to lose Super Bowl forty nine to the New England Patriots.
It was year after year after year of just mediocre
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miss they were good enough to make the playoffs. There
was maybe one year where I thought maybe they had
a chance, but they were never like a top team
in the National Football League despite what their record said.
They had a twelve and four season during the COVID year,
but they lost in the wild card round to the Rams.
It was Dougie was so stale, and so when Pete
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Carroll was let go last year. I don't know if
this past year rivaled any of those other seasons, but
it was a fresh start. And I think that if
you're a Steelers fan, as much as you love Mike
Tomlin and love everything with it as a fan, you
probably just want a fresh start.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
The question is if you're going to let Mike Tomlin go,
who replaces him?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Sure, because it is very much like a new pope,
because it's not an organization that if you make the
wrong call, they're going to make a change in a
year or two.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
It'd be the most coveted job in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely, And I guess the real question is,
you know, if you're going to do that, you better
have a real plan for who that's going to be.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
But I think if let's just say Ben Johnson is
the top guy, because if that Steeler's job opens up,
absolutely I'm looking at that job for just every reason
that there is, even though there isn't a quarterback there.
Maybe there's a way where you work and figure it
out how to deal with it. The other problem with it,
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Doug is in's you said everything was accurate. The tough
part about it that I see is it looks like
they're addressing their quarterback problem by taking Kenny Pickett in
the first round like they did a few years ago.
It's just not I think that realistic to think that
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taking taking a quarterback like at twenty is going to
help or is going to be a game changer. I'm
not saying that every quarterback in the National FOOTBA League
has to be a top one, two, three pick, but
you move on from him more quickly. There's it's honestly
more of a crapshoot. I think what you would see
in the National Football League. They may be a team
that just needs to pick in the top five once
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no once in a blue moon.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, they have that.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
They have the problem that the Packers had, and that's
why the Packers moved up to draft Jordan Love right
because they felt like they will never be in the
top five. So there's a guy who we felt like
slip then we can sit for a couple of years
and develop. And that's what the Packers did, and Steel
has never been able to do that. I completely agree
with you. And now it feels like they're on the
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retread thing, which they were on the retread thing. Before
with Tommy Maddox right at the Tommy Maxine before they
got Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But they're in that quarterback a basins.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I do understand, like you don't want this to be
the the Don Shula era was ended much.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Like this as well.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Right like Don Shula, that thing was definitely a whimper
at the end, and many people considered Don Shula the
greatest coach of all time before, you know, the last
couple of years. And for Tomlin, it's not crazy to think, hey,
maybe he needs a fresh starter, or maybe do TV
for a year and then pick it out, or maybe
go to the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Again, I know you can't keep a guy in a
job just because you fear trying to replace that guy,
but this is a place where they don't just replace coaches.
I think you know, you have a new, a fairly
new gentle manager who his signature moment is picking a
quarterback who's no longer on the roster now plays for
the Eagles as their backup. And I'm sure there's a
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little gun shyness in that. Do we really want to
make that change since yeah, we got to pick a
new coach and this way, you know, if nothing else,
we had the loyalty and we know we're going to
win ten games.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Here's my other thing with Tom. And I'm not saying
that this missing him as fair or treating him well
or right, but I'm gonna have Sam play with Kirk
kerb Street again said on the broadcast on Saturday. Jason
Stewart played it yesterday in Our Love and Hate, But
for those that missed it, I think this is pretty intriguing.
This was Kirk Kerbstreet's analysis on the Amazon broadcast.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
A game like this a chess match.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's a cliche, but this is a chess match two
grand masters. If I were a Steelers fan, I think
that we consider me. Just watching this first.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
TATOST season, you're getting dominated.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I don't see any fighting. I don't see any any pushback.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's one thing that louse Zacsohy's against a really talented
all offense.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But where the hell is the fighting. This is the
Pittsburgh Steelers. There's nothing. And that is that was most
concerning because I think that's reflective of Tomlin. He's your
head coach. It's Arthur Smith's offense, it's Treel Austin's defense,
even though Tomlin's the defensive guy, if you will, it
is Dick Lebo's defense for all those years. Tomlin is
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the guy bringing the emotion. Tomlin is the guy sparking
a fire. And if you can't to the point of
get up for a division rival in a wild card
game and come out flat, I just wonder on how
much is Tomlin's voice falling flat in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I think it's fair.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
My thing is I just I think Russell Wilson has
that effect on teams.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I really do. I really do.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And I could be blaming Russell Wilson for something he
has nothing to do with. But that was what it
felt like at the end of the Seahawks era. That's
what it felt like in the two years in Denver
where guys are just over it and when your quarterback
just doesn't he actually drives people to roll their eyes.
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It's really hard for any coach, any coach, to do
anything about it. Now, think back to that last year
with the Seahawks, Remberhen he came back from the thumb injury.
How lifeless the Seahawks were. He went very good and
they weren't. They were lifeless. You know, and I mean,
I don't hate this ever say I told you so,
but I did tell you so that their quarterback wasn't
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on their roster, and I thought that was ultimately their undoing.
And you know, it's like, look at the Broncos. Had
they made some other changes, sure, but everybody believed Sean
Payton can coach and what he do. He moved in
a rookie and moved out Russell Wilson and they're in
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
It's funny because when we talked about drafting quarterbacks, so
when they drafted Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand and four,
he was eleven overall, so not a top five, but
eleven overall. I can remember if he was ten or
eleven that year, and it was eleventh. The only time
since then that they have picked lower was in twenty
nineteen when they picked tenth, so one spot lower. Otherwise,
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it's been a bunch of twenty two, twenty five, seventeen, fifteen.
One year they took Kenny Pickett at twenty, they had
twenty this past year. It's just a bunch of that.
And you know, we saw six quarterbacks go in the
in the draft, and the first twelve picks last year
and Steelers said no chance at any of them.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You know, it's interesting, what if I told you that,
like the Ben Roethlisberger story will probably never happen again.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Remember, like he started only one year in high school.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
He was a tight end before that, but three years
at my Ohio and then he went pro his third year.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But now after.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The first year, but definitely after the second year, he
hits a transfer portal when he goes to a major school,
and he probably stays in school a couple.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Ext of years.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, and then the idea that a guy that big
and that strong goes at eleventh in the draft, like
he did in two thousand and three. Yeah, they just
they don't. They don't last that long in the draft.
It's really really interesting. I mean that said brock Purty.
Mister irrelevant was around the draft a couple of years ago.
Then here he is, but again before the transfer portal.
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It's gonna be interesting to see how many quarterbacks are
built because anybody who's borderline, anybody who's a fifth to
undrafted guy is staying in school and making way more
money as a college quarterback. So yeah, again, I'm just
out a fire Tomlin guy. I have lots of friends
who are Steelers' people and they're like over it. I
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just think it's the Russell Wilson effect.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I think it's just too much to just put on
Russ's shoulders for this, like there's it's it's been too long.
I've felt it under the Peak Carroll era and listen,
this year, Doug was ten and seven, no different than
really any of the other Peak Carroll seasons from that
Super Bowl, but it felt different. It was new, it
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was new people. You know, there are still mistakes. Seahawks
fired their offensive coordinator, are looking for a new one.
So it's not that everything was perfect, but it was
different and that wasn't necessarily a bad thing. And I
think as a Steelers fan, everything that has lined up
coaching wise and what has done will point to Tom
and keeping his job. And as a fan, I think
it's probably gotten pretty stale. In Pittsburgh.
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(15:55):
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Speaker 4 (15:56):
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Speaker 2 (16:39):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
We all look back and think what could have been?
Or I wish I wouldn't have said that, or man
that turned a completely different way than I thought. But
only one of all of US eight billion people has
our own segment about our remorse. We call it Dan
Byer's remorse.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Some have remorse. I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible
and selfish behavior. I engagement, come on.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But there's nothing quite like Buyer's remorse.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yew.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Dan Bayer.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Doug, you're gonna sense a theme with Buyer's remorse. I're
gonna start Saturday afternoon, Chargers go into Houston face the Texans.
I'm riding this bolt wave all for it. While I
didn't think it was going to be a bye like
Rex Ryan thought, no way. The Chargers go into Houston
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and lose. Chargers are just the more physical team, They're
the better team. Give me the Chargers on Saturday afternoon,
zero to one. It's a divisional game, Doug. Even though
it's a wild card matchup, divisional game between the Steelers
and Ravens. Give me the Pittsburgh Steelers to at least
keep it close because they're gonna fight. They've got pride,
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they've got Mike Tomlin. It wasn't close and two on Saturday,
a wild card weekend. Sunday's a new day, Doug. It
absolutely is a new day, and it's a day for
the Broncos to shock a lot of people. They did
for about thirty five minutes. Then Buffalo just completely ran
away with the game because they held the ball for
like forty minutes. Bill's end up running away from the Broncos.
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I am owing three on wild Card Weekend picks. Don't worry,
I can go three and oh the rest of the way,
Doug Right, three more wild Card games. Sure, Jordan Love
is going to be playoff Jordan Love. Jalen Hurts coming
back from that head injury, I expect him to be rusty.
That actually was a decent read. I just thought Green
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Bay would show up and they really didn't. Outside of
Josh Jacobs Eagles cover. I am zero to four. Thank goodness,
Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders were able to survive
against Tampa to at least give me my first win
of wild Card Weekend. And Doug, it was my only
win because I told you yesterday you have to take
the Vikings, right. I mean, they're supposed to be the
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road game, and now they're getting a basically a neutral
site game. Well, the rams of the team that's really inconvenienced,
and we saw what happened last night. I went one
in five on wild Card weekend in my picks. My goodness,
just a completely awful Every single read I had going
into the weekend just ended up turning out the opposite.
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That's my first remorse.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know what's weird is we like I don't know
if you know this.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Jaysetu and I always talk about how your picture always right,
and we always feel weirdly weird. We feel like we're
walking to a trap when we go against you. And
then you had this terrible weekend, So what do we know?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, you guys gonna gone five and one just went
against my aunt thinking just one other bit of pretty Morris. Doug,
I got a little snarky last night on the text
group text chain with us. I'd sent an article that
I hadn't seen and I didn't know if you guys
saw and I didn't know if it was old news
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or new news. And I said, hey, did you guys
see this? And Doug you just responded, Yep, you saw it,
so that I just said, cool, I'll mark it down
for my survey. That was kind of taking a shot
at you, because I was hoping for you to expound
on the take, but I apologize for being snarky last
night on the group text and if I made it
awkward for Sam or Jason Stewart, who's not my apologies.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know, I like it snarky. Come on, really, I know,
but I was just I'm the king of snarky.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Nobody nobody responded to my line either. I actually thought
it was funny. And then I told my wife. I said, yeah,
I said, thanks Doug, I'll market in my survey and
she didn't laugh, and I'm like, okay, well, nobody thought
that that was funny. And then I changed the subject. Yeah,
then Sam, could please change the subject. Oh yes, there's
my buyer's remorse for this Tuesday. Happy birthday to my
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sister today, your birthdappy.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Birthday, Happy birthday you in two days. I made it
a point to make sure that I mentioned it in
the next couple of days, because what's happened in the past,
like three or four years, is people always and then
I'm like and I'm like, oh wait, it's Dan's birthday,
and it's always the day after.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
And I usually take off for my birthday. I'm gonna
take off this Friday. That will will end up happening.
So I won't be here Friday, but I will be
here on Thursday for the actual day. Should I take
off Friday, Well, then I'll have to be for you
on Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, we can find somebody else to do it, to
be us.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Not everyone at once.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Well, I guess the question is this real question?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Please don't take off on Friday.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Should I take the day off Friday because we play Friday?
Like maybe just to change this thing up?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
No, because then I'm you all maybe maybe, but then
I'm gonna end up working on Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh you won't. Yeah, other people that can fill.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
In, Doug. It's a bigger issue than that. So, yeah,
you're putting Dan in a pickle.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I won't put you in a pickle, do you do.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I actually explained this to couple my friends who are
a little younger, and I was like, do you know
what being in a pickle is? They're like, yeah, why
do people say that? It's like, well, pickle is like
a rundown in baseball, Like we used to play a
game called pickle, and it's putting in the middle of
something Like I have had no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Like, man, really, I got in a game of pickle
when I was in second grade and someone didn't catch
the ball and it hit me right in the stomach.
And you know that feeling when you get punched in
the stomach.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, it's a bad feeling.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah. And so then the next year in the Little league,
my first year, I was so afraid of the ball.
All I did was walk or strike out. Was I was.
If there was an actual batter's box chalk that they
used for a little league I probably was so far
away from the plate you wouldn't believe it. But that
game of pickle scarred me for a good couple of years.
Supposed to catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
You were supposed to catch the ball, but you caught
it with your stomach.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But I was the one that was supposed to run
to the next base. Yeah I wasn't. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Hey, he's got dinged in the eye, moved the wrong
way on a curve ball. He was never the same either,
never the same great hit or became guy who just
like to pitch.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So that's the baseball. Baseball will do that to you.
It did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
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Speaker 4 (23:25):
The The NBA ESPN reports that Jimmy Butler did tell
Heat president pat Riley last week in a face to
face meeting that he wants to be traded and that
he would not resign with the Heat this offseason if
he is not dealt. Butler currently serving as seven game
ban for conduct detrimental to the team. Doug, back to you, I.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Have heard he is.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
He is a royal pain in the tulus, which shouldn't
surprise you, shouldn't surprise anybody. But I've in a league
where there's a lot of divas like that.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Dude is a diva. That dude is king diva everywhere
he's went, everywhere he's gone.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yes, there's been something in Chicago, even in the later years.
Remember he and Duwayne Wade got into it. I believe
with Rondo and others it was about effort, but it
seemed to be more of that. But Jimmy Butler wasn't
happy there. He and Karl Anthony Towns to do mix
in Minnesota. For whatever reasons, Philadelphia ends up not going
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back there, and then he's all Tobias Harris. He chose
to buya his hairs over me. Gosh, there's just a
lot for someone who isn't as great as he thinks
he is.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
No, and look, and in fairness, how many of us
are as great as we think we are, right so,
and again that doesn't excuse his behavior. I'm not doing that.
What I'm saying is there's lots of guys. The difference
between Jimmy Butler not being is Jimmy Butler like it
causes complete chaos within a franchise because of it. Like
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most guys in the NBA think they're better than they are.
Most people in life, I would some people have you know,
really struggle with self esteem or the opposite, but most
people in life think they're better than they are. He
is just an extreme case in every sense of the word.
And it really unsettles a team. Like think about the
Heat We're known for their culture, their heat culture, and
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here's a guy that goes directly the opposite of it.
It's just about him and I actually credit pat Riley here.
I don't know if going head on with him last
year after the playoffs were over was the right thing,
But I will tell you that this is all about money.
It's just all about wanting a contract extension and the
Heat not wanting to give him the max. And you know,
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pat Riley has made some ill fated decisions. I mean,
basically with Shaquille O'Neal right, they gave that big contract
to when Shack wanted a new contract with the Lakers
and they won a title. They want a title mostly
because of Dwayne Wade, a little because of shaq, a
little because of the NBA officials in that series against
the Mavericks. But I would say that if there's one
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thing that pat Riley's done a really good job of,
is't he hasn't done that again. It feels like he
hasn't given a MAX contract to somebody who wasn't in
the prime of their career. Jimmy Butler's not in the
prime of his career. He's very rarely been a dominant player.
He's a really, really, really good player. But I'm with you,
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his ego as run them up here.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, one of just even looking up more details of
the past. It's funny because you want to search like
Jimmy Butler, drama or unhappy, and it gives you just
all results recently, but you could go for two or
three different spots. He requested a trade out of Minnesota.
It wasn't just Karl Anthony Towns. Who was that whole
thing at the start of the twenty eighteen season. I
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just remember it not ending well with the Bulls, which
is the reason why they ended up trading him in
the first place. Yeah, just stripes. He's been in the
league for a decade and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But come on, yeah, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
It's Doug otlib Show here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I did want to I did want to just put
a bow on something that we never got to earlier,
just so you never finished your head coaching. You were
guessing the head coaches from last year to put a
bow on our to put a bow on the points
that we were making on the hirings and who would
be hired. The point was we were talking about dan
Quinn and how dan Quinn was in as sexy of
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a higher and in fact, at the time, I don't
think the Commander's fans were jacked up that dan Quinn
was their head coach and now he's still coaching in
the NFL playoffs. And you were going to try to
name all eight vacancies that there were a year ago.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, off the top of my head, I don't remember
every coach's name.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I'm just ye, that's all right. I just said that team.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Okay, So we had we had Seattle, yep, we had Vegas, correct.
And I know I said I was going to go
west to east. I know Raheem Morris is new in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yep, that's correct?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And is it Caleb Canelis? Is that? Who's is that?
Who's in is that?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Who's Dave Canallis?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Dave Canallis is in Carolina?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right, I'm at four, you're at four right now?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Okay. And then you mentioned dan Quinn. That's five.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, I'll steal that.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
One your obvious one, which is you.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Know, uh, Jim Harbaugh. That's that's six. That was that
was a big one. Okay. So I have two more yes?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
That a year ago?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Open Patriots? Patriots, correct, Patriots and Titans?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Was that that is correct? Brian Callahan hired by the.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Titans because now Vrabel was fired mid season.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
But did they have an interim? I don't remember if
it's Callahan right then or they.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
No, No, Callahan came over from Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Uhh yeah, he was the OC in Cincinnati, right, Okay, Yes,
that was about eight. And so how many are open now?
Now we have Bears, Patriots already closed?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Right, yeah, but the cow Boys opened?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, Cowboys open. That's three, Raiders is open six? Okay,
So Raiders, Cowboys, Bears, Patriots. Mm hold on, hold on, uh,
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
On, hold on the two more?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Uh Patriots Patriots is full?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, I know, but it was one of the one
of the six.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
One of the seventh. It would be seven if it
was the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Now, okay, So Bears were NFC North one Jaguars.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yes, correct, Robert Sala interviewed with them today, Jets. That's correct.
They've interviewed everyone, including Ryan Burshing, our executive producer.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Am I at five.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Now I've got okay, okay, let me let me let
me go back through them real quick.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I know this is great, riveting radio, riveting radio.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Here Raiders, Bears, Patriots, Jaguars. But the Cowboys Raiders. Okay,
that's six and there's one more.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yes, hold on, I actually just mentioned them in the update.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm sure you did.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Somebody interviewing for them something sort of interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Not Miami, No, not Jacksonville. We already mentioned that India
is not open as of yet.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Getting a little colder dog getting geographically.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, geographically colder?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, Okay, not Seattle, not Minnesota, not not oh not freezing?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Yeah, if you go to Seattle, you're you're freezing?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Really?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh oh oh oh? Did I say Jet's I don't
know which one I'm missing. I honestly forgot the Saints existed,
and I went to the Saints Facker's team.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Ain't that weird?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I wanted to just get warmer and warmer, And what
geographic team you were going to be warmest? Too?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I thought I did think you were doing warm based
upon not topography but latitude and longitude.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
The good news is, Doug is you'll be there in
a couple of weeks for Super Bowl, maybe even get
a chance to take a dip in the Gulf of
America if you will.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Are we really doing that? Is that a real thing?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Is that a real thing?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I don't know. I don't know. I just wanted to
have some fun.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
What universe are we living in? That? That is like
one first orders of business. I just you know, we
got these historic.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Fires, we got the Israel thing, we got all this
other stuff. You know, we got the price of eggs,
and like, hey, what if we changed that to the
Gulf of America.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh man, that's hysterical. He's Dann Byrom Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Hey, dogs out, poop poop, Let the dogs out.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
That's exactly what's happening. It's exactly what's happening. Somebody's about
somebody's got to get executed. Come up live on The
Doug Gottlieb Show from the tyrag dot com studios. Uh
Nick Sirianni waited in on AJ Brown's reading habits.
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Speaker 2 (33:10):
Right after we get off the air, Let's get to
the press, the press. All right, dear dan Bira, what
do you got?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Doug like to have some fun on the show. And
before I get to these stories of the day, you know,
we think we're gonna lose TikTok by next week. So
in each of the shows, I'd like to at least
at least during the press, tell you one thing I'm
gonna miss about TikTok if it ends up going away
for us. And one of the things I love about
TikTok are the videos where people like kids will show
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their grandparents the news, but they'll say this is it's
a grand theft auto game, but they say it's the news.
Have you ever seen that one with the grandma and
the horrific look on her face. It's one of my favorite,
and it's branched out to Madden where there's a Madden
game going on to the screen and maybe the elderly
(34:04):
just can't see it as well, so they think it's
the actual game. It's it's not laughing at the old
people at all. It's not that. It's just very funny
and it's one of the things I'm gonna miss about TikTok.
Do you guys know the videos that I'm talking about
with the grandma and the look out her face? Would
(34:25):
her eyes get so big?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Just hilarious. I will miss those those videos all right.
Back to the matter at hand, Eagles head coach Nick
Sirianni has weighed in on a book gate. Aj Brown
spotted reading a book during their game against the Packers
this past weekend on the sidelines, and the Eagles head
coach was asked about it today on ninety four WIP
(34:49):
Sports Radio in Philadelphia. This was the exchange, Doug, are
you okay with him reading a self help book on
the sideline or would you rather he not.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
I'm definitely okay with it. Everybody has their you know,
the crazy thing is, it's been happening for you know,
we've been he's been reading this book on the sideline
for a long time. It's not it's just so happened
that a camera saw it this week and kind of
you know, I don't know if made a big deal
about it or not, but everybody has their own way.
We talked so much about dog mentality, playing the next play,
(35:20):
focusing your mind so on what it's prey in between.
Some guys meditate in between. Some guys you know aj
Reid's place where they can play with great detail and
great effort. I fool such a good teammate. I find
it a little bit like I saw Johanna Dotson said
something like that. You know, we don't do any research
(35:43):
to figure out why, how long he's been doing it,
why he's doing it, what he's reading, and he's not
reading a you know whatever research and we and we
jumped to it, and we jumped and everyone needs to
figure out why he's doing it before they jump to judgment. Yeah, person,
man aj Brown is the best receiver that and I'll
(36:04):
say it, the best teammates then in the world to
his guy, not not there's the best receiver that one
of the best teammates. And I love AJ Brown, And
it's hard. It's hard for me to watch when somebody
when guy, you know, people are getting on him without
doing the proper research of who the man is and
what he's doing in the first place.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Two minute answer that we tried to condense to about
seventy eight seconds or me just skipping through it. Two
minute answer. And if you had a problem with AJ
Brown reading the book, that's called a filibuster, Oh my goodness. Also,
obviously it's a problem if you could talk two minutes
about it. The stuff I know the least about, I
(36:45):
feel like I talked the most about. Right, If you
know what you're talking about, you just say it and
it's done.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
But when you keep on rambling on and on and
still a buster right there? Oh gosh, yes, Phil, my goodness.
But two minutes the whole club with the interview question,
which was about ten seconds, was two minutes and thirteen seconds. Uh. Crazy.
The Eagles have the Rams coming up on Sunday, And
(37:14):
how about this from Tyler Higbee left last night's game
against the Vikings with a chest injury. Sean McVay says
he was coughing up blood on the sideline, so they
took him to a local hospital in the Phoenix Glendale
area was in stable condition. In fact, that report came
during the game. McVeigh says today that Higbee, who did
travel with the team back to LA right now on
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track to play against the Eagles on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Stud stutt What a quick turnaround though for the Rams
it is.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, you wonder if it could catch up with them.
Eagles ran all over them sake one to two hundred
and fifty five yards in their first meeting, So we'll
see if Philadelphia ends up doing it again. The man
accused of stocking WNBA star Caitlin Clark is being held
on fifty thousand dollars bail after his initial court appearance
Earlier today in Indianapolis, the fifty five year old Michael
(38:06):
Thomas Lewis had a judge enter a not guilty plea
on his behalf during his initial court appearance on the
felony charges. Yes, more to come on this issue, but
he has been held on fifty thousand dollars bail.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's not great. Actually the opposite not great. That's kind
of terrible.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Here's the thing like this is, it's the text messages
that he was sending. Crazy. The guy says that he's
he's listening being from Texas, but he says that he
lives in his car. But he was in the hotel
room in Indianapolis when police like first made contact with
him and then ended up stopping him on Sunday. So
just a scary situation.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's really scary, I mean those of us.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Was it Manica Sellis, Yes, I mean I mean remember
she got stabbed during a tennis match and that's like
the old like I just very scary America sweet art
and got a real stalker on her hands.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Thankfully he's in.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Customer, yes, absolutely. And Doug Penn State Tennan Tyler Warren
entering the NFL draft. A lot of guys returning to
Penn State, but Warren first round pick. He's going pro
and that's the press he goes would tonight, which for
Jupiter Links the simulator golf league that they started, Tiger's.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Table Simulator Golf League.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Oh yeah, you'll have to watch tonight it's actually pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
All right, I'll check it out. I'll check it out
all right. Back tomorrow, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,