February 3, 2025 • 21 mins
Doug riffs on the NFL Pro Bowl games. Doug reacts to Rob Parker's take on the Luka Doncic deal. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying. Plus, Nick Young makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Welcome in. Ah. Yeah, So was there a Pro Bowl
this weekend? Guys? Because I saw some like flag football highlights.
(00:36):
Was there a Pro Bowl this weekend? I think there was?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, I saw some of the games, you know, like
the little the little.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Pro Bowl games.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't know there was.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
They were like guys from the NFL participating in these
you know, little skills games, and I don't know what
it was.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You know, it's it's one of the things that you like,
you don't want to be critical fans because fans do
essentially pay our bills. But can we all agree that
people going to watch NFL players play flag football and
do other stuff is just kind of weird, isn't it.
It's like you don't have anything else going on, anything
(01:20):
else going on. I mean, I like, I don't even
get the well, I just went there to get an autographer.
I went there to take a picture with the dude. Like,
I don't even get that. Am I too cynical too. Uh,
what's the word I'm looking for. I'm not entitled, but
I'm not looking down on fans. I just don't understand.
(01:44):
I literally, I've never understood anybody watching the Pro Bowl.
Now they don't even have a Pro Bowl, they have
these games. I really don't understand anybody watching them.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Out of all the things that I saw on the
internet this weekend, almost none of it was about these
probo games. But I saw a lot of Peyton Manning's
son throwing a TD pass to Jamar Chase. I saw
a lot of that. That was the takeaway from the
from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
If you're the NFL, yeah, I just it's one of
those deals where I don't even and there's a lot
of people. I do have respect for people that put
on these events. You know, all the people that are
like college interns or the NFL has a whole planning
group and they do a great job like putting on
the events. Mike, Mike, just my honest question is like,
(02:34):
how little do you have to have going on in life.
I'll give you example. So you know, obviously two jobs
kids in college, one in high school, and I was
going to with my day off yesterday I was going
to go see my son Hayes, who goes to high
school in Oklahoma, and it just was too much. And
the big thing was everyone in Oklahoma seems to have
(02:56):
the flu, like it's really going around. So I'm like, well,
I'm not gonna get sick going to going to the
super Bowl by going to Oklahoma and then infecting everybody else.
It was pretty So I had Sunday like, off, let
me just tell you the things I did Jays two.
I got a new TV. I got a haircut. I
took my dog for uh you got to play outside
(03:20):
end game of bath. I cleaned my house, I cooked,
I had like a I got a chance to do
a bunch of reading recruiting calls, watched a bunch of
you know, some some of our team, some of our opponents,
some of the guys recruiting and other college basketball, just
to stay up with stuff. In one of the games
(03:40):
to top teams in our league. Like I had so
much time in my day, I was like, oh my god,
this is amazing. If the and I live, you can
see Lambeau sort of. You can see like the jumbo
tron from my house. Now it's fifteen minutes away, but
you know, there's water, and there's a bridge, and you
could see the Fox and a little bit you could
(04:01):
see Lambell if it was right there. And somebody gave
me free tickets and free beer, and I had the
day to do all the things that I did, or
go to watch superstar NFL players, with the exception of
the actual ones that I really care about, playing in
shirts and Shortsley's playing flag football and doing all this stuff.
(04:22):
I would not go, am I the only one? Would you? Guys?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Go?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
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Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let Get the Foxes and now every day. This time
we played for your portion of a previous show on
Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One. Here's Dan Patrick. He
had this reaction to the Luca.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Trade, getting messages on my phone that was like, OMG,
question mark exclamation point?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What the uugh?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Question mark exclamation point? And I don't know what's happened.
So all of a sudden, you go, I gotta contact somebody.
So I sent a message to my wife, I said,
is everything okay. She said, yeah, did you hear about
the Luka Doncik? Is that how you pronounce his name?
I go, you know it before I know it? And
she said, yes, everybody on the internet is talking about this.
(05:23):
Is that how you pronounce his name? I said, yes,
it is Luka Doncik traded to the Lakers. And you
start to think about all the insiders. People get paid
millions and millions of dollars to be the insider. Give
us a heads up there, and then all of a sudden,
nobody was an insider. Nobody had any information on this.
Even the players involved in the deal had no idea
(05:45):
that this was going on. Now, I understand the mab
side of this with Luca that you're not going to
tell him. If you're getting ready to part ways with him,
you're not going to say anything to him. The Lakers
with Lebron Lebron friends with Ad, brought Ad in from
New Orleans. They want a title together, their buds. Then
there was a report there at odds with one another.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a there's a lot to it.
There's no there. They weren't at odds with each other.
This was we talked about it. At the open of
the show, we talked about the open of the pod.
The reality to this is the Mavericks just decided the
juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Three hundred and fifty million
(06:31):
dollars to Luca meant they were okay with him not
playing defense and consistently not being in shape. And for
the Lakers, I mean, it's the reset of the shot clock,
for for for Rob Polinka, because because this team, I mean,
I mean, come on, man, you got three non defenders
in your starting out, Your three best offensive players are
(06:53):
non defenders. You have no chance of winning that way.
So my guess is that the Lakers, I mean, this
is just a deal presented to them, fell right in
their laps and they can feel great about it, but
it's great about the future. Their challenge is going to
be how can they get Luca to play defense? How
can they get Luca to consistently be in shape? Some
(07:15):
of the Mavericks could not get him to do because
in the offensive side of the ball, he's the best
player in the NBA by a you know, and he
makes people better. But it's a lot to try and
build an entire team around you. For the Mavericks. They're
not perfect, they don't have a point guard, but they'll
be really, really good defensively. And maybe there's one more
(07:35):
deal they can make now that they have so much
length defending the basket with Lively Gafford and Anthony Davis.
But I don't think this is the Lakers saying we're
not going to win this year, but we're gonna get
our next superstar for years to come. And for the Mavericks,
it's the we just we can't go three hundred and
(07:58):
fifty million dollars for a guy that we struggle to
get in shape and to play defense. That's three out
of Here's Rob Parker on the trade.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
I come away with two things. A the Lakers are
preparing for life after Lebron. That's why you would go
out and get an international young player twenty five year
old Luca Doncic for Anthony Davis. I mean, what else
could it be? And Number two, from Dallas's standpoint, why
(08:34):
you would give up a young player with so much
talent is you have to be convinced that you can't
win a championship With Luca. We get the conditioning concerns,
we get the defensive liability all that kind of stuff.
But he's a talented player, one of the best in
(08:55):
the league. And to give up on him and decide
you don't want to give him a super Max contract
and you don't want him a part of your franchise
for the long term at that age is shocking. What
a trade. I don't think the Lakers are anything better
in the short term. Long term, I get the game
(09:15):
plan for having Luca, but the short term, defensively, where
does that leave this team? I don't think it makes
it any better where they have a shot at winning
a championship or something. But man, what a shocker or
a Saturday night from the NBA.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah no, listen, I completely agree with him. Long term,
Lucas they're next star. Short term, they're not an NBA
championship team, But I would say that if we're honest,
they won a championship team this year even before they
made that deal. Here's Colin Coward and the reasons the
MAVs made the deal.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
NKO Harrison has for not very long been the general
manager of Dallas, and he's a risk taker. He did
the Kyrie move. Everybody criticized him, it worked. He made
that big move at the trade deadline last year. It
got him into the finals in big swings, He's different,
but this feels like an absolutely, egregiously bad moves. So
(10:07):
why did he make the move? Well, let's start with this.
I think the reason that Michael Jordan is the most
popular basketball player of all time. Kobe Bryant's up there too,
is that relentlessness, that work ethic that's not Luca. He's
often in poor shape and is a lousy defender, and
(10:29):
he's hurt increasingly more and more and more due to
his bad conditioning. So there's a little shack in Luca,
and the Lakers moved off Shack, right, they had a choice.
They took Kobe the relentless worker. So is that the
reason they moved off him? The Maverick owners are staring
(10:50):
down the barrel of seventy four million dollars a year contract,
and he doesn't defend. He's hard on teammates, but won't
play defense.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I think it's all that. I think Colin pretty
much nailed it, you know, And I think they just
got to the point where they felt like, you know,
it's like we talk about the Lakers. It did fall
into Lakers lab and it doesn't mean it works with
the Lakers, but it's not like they went out and
sought out this trade. The trade just kind of happened
for him because of Niko's relationship with Rob going back
(11:21):
to the Kobe when when Nico worked at Nike. I
think everybody has the same view of how this thing
went down. And the big question now is to the
Lakers make a move this year? Do they move Lebron?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
What do they do? Because this is They're not winning
a championship even competing with one with their current roster
unless they had defense across the board, because right now
they look like one of the worst defensive teams in
the league with their current with with this this with
Austin Reeves, Lebron, James Luka, Dancik, that dog won't hunt.
(11:56):
It's be fun to watch, but that dog won't hunt
at all. That's what the say.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
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Speaker 2 (12:13):
Let's find out who are what is the annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Hey, Doug just brought Doug three two one, uh brought
this up. Nicol Harris, Nicol Harrison, I don't know who
that is, but he was the GM of the Mavericks
and he, he and Jason Kidd were sitting there yesterday
and it was just really awkward. Jason Kidd, I don't
(12:47):
know if this is just his normal demeanor, but he
couldn't look less pleased to be there or less pleased
with the trade. Supposedly he found out when everybody else did.
But this was one of Nicol Harrison's answers about short
term and long term?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Do you think you think this will work in the
short term?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
In the long term?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Short?
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Short term makes great sense. How do you see this
working out well for the organization.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
In the long term?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Well, I think the long term is the time frame.
I think he fits our time frame. If you pair
him with Kyrie and the rest of the guys, he
fits right along with our time frame to win now
and win in the future. And the future to me
is three four years from now, in the future ten
years from now, I don't know. I don't think they
probably bury me and Jay Buddy or we bear ourselves yet.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So there's like this nervous laughter and ten years, you
guys might bury us or we might bury ourselves. Whatever.
To me, if I'm a Mavericks fan, I kind of
just want the guy that runs my team to be like,
very confident, like we got one of the best players
in the world, one of the best best defensive players
in the world, and we're moving forward. Not this kind
(13:55):
of hym and han in ten years you might bury
us things.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
No, I get it. I think he was doing the
aug shucks thing. And you know I in terms of demeanor,
that's Jason Kidd's demeanor. That's how he is. He's very
standoffish with the media, very very and he gives up.
You know, he's not it's not who he is. So
(14:19):
I get that he annoys you with the uh, we
might be dead in ten years, but it's just it's
just an effort to be self deprecating and to be
AUGI shucks kind of like pushing your feet around, pushing
the dirt, pushing the dirt around your feet sort of thing.
Who else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So I think that there's going to be this, like
I don't know if this is going to be like
one of those forever Where were you when you know?
Where were you when Kobe died? When were you you know?
Where were you when Magic retired? I don't think it's
going to be one of those, but maybe, But I
will say this, for the very short time here, it
(14:55):
shocked everybody. And I think maybe the most impressive part
about the entire thing was a this deal was done
without any leaks, without any any even like there weren't
even any like rumors, any speculation.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I hit up Mark Stein, who knows the Maus better
than anybody. I hit him up yesterday. He had no
idea this was coming. And so Shams or Scham's what
is it? Chams Shams? He broke the news, but like
the problem was, I guess. And this speaks to your
point about Twitter and everybody being allowed the blue check mark.
(15:31):
It speaks to where we're at now politically, and no
one believes anything anyone says, but no one really. There
was this period of time for everybody of like verifying
making sure this was the story. Shams himself had to
verify his own story, and he explained it today on
(15:51):
first take.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
I mean, I thought my phone was hacked when I
got the text messages with the details of the trade
and when I got wind of the deal.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But you peel back the curtain.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
And for the Mavericks, they honestly internally believe that this
move puts them in a better position to win a championship.
Of course, there are issues that they had obviously with
Luca Dantis's conditioning levels to an extent.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But so not only did everybody think this guy had
his account hacked, he thought himself that he had his
phone hacked. That was the most annoying part of this
breaking story, the timing, and then everyone was in this
like weird wimbo trying to get verification.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I was the same thing with me. I texted uh,
I tooxed his Stein. I texted Rick Bucker, I texted Rissillo,
I texted Colin, like all of our all our guys.
I even texted WOJ and I was like, is this real?
And they're like, we think so all of them are like,
(16:57):
I guess. And then within like two or three minut
and it's all of them texted back like yeah, I
guess it is real. That is the most impressive part. Especially,
that's the difference thing. You know, if Magic Johnson would
have been at the helmet the Lakers. We would have
known about it like a month ago, month ago, so
that it is one of the things that Rob has changed.
But it was a pretty interesting night. What else? Who
(17:20):
else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I need to bring in Iowa Sam here to give
him his flowers or to give him a couple of seconds. Sam,
Just first and foremost, what did you think as you
watched the footage of Kaitlin Clark's being retired? Caitlin Clark's
number being retired by the Iowa.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hawkeyes seemed like a perfect kind of day in Iowa
City for that they got the win over USC, number
four USC and they The thing is is they didn't
show the retirement ceremony after the game. They cut away
to something else, so you had to like go on
to Twitter or you had to go to you know,
(17:59):
other outlet. It's to actually watch some of the footage
of her jersey being or her number being retired.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
So nobody moving forward in Iowa basketball is going to
wear twenty two? Or is it just a women women's basketball?
I think it's just on the women's side. Okay, that sucks.
Not only would I want them to extend it to
the men's side of Iowa basketball. I want NCUBA to
step in and retire it from anybody in the NCAAB
(18:27):
and overware. I want him to go full Jackie Robinson
on this. And for no other reason than to see
the reaction of the WNBA writers, the WNBA, all the
other women's basketball. I want to see all the reaction
if the nc DOUBLEA were to say nobody's ever to
wear number twenty two in the history of the moving
(18:50):
forward in the nc DOUBLEA. What do you think, Doug, Yeah, no,
how fun would that be to see the reaction?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I mean, why would we do that? Because she she
scored more points than any woman to play women's college basketball,
so we retire the number.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, the same reason Iowall retired it. Whatever whatever greatness
she had at Iowaiz she's changed women's basketball, supposedly. I
just I just want to see the whining and all
the all the just like bullshit stuff that comes out
of your typical Caitlin Clark being put on a pedestal.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You know, Oh, that that part would be fun. I
agree that that actually agree with you, just just for
the reaction that's fun.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yes, I'm not I'm not one hundred percent certain that
a male Iowa Hawkeye basketball player couldn't wear twenty two.
I think that they could. I think it's just on
the women's side. I just I don't know for sirtain.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
What was Chris Street's number, Chris.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Short, Yes, something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
At the top of my head, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He was forty. I think it's forty anymore.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
There's a guy named Chris Straight.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
No, Chris Street. He was the team captain for Iowa
for me, and he died in a car died in
a car accident after playing a game one night, like
in a snowstorm. And there's a Chris Street Award. It's
a historical number in Iowa basketball. Okay.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
The way I was down with Shams and the Nico
Harrison being kind of meek and I need Kendalls talk
to have her number retired across the board.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think the way it went down with Shams is annoying.
The fact that that there was no all these insiders
and nobody had any insight.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Why do I.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Because we can.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Let's see Nick Young. Nick Young played for a lot
of teams, but he played at the Lakers at some
point I want to say you played for the Clippers.
He was a USC trojan. I think he's from southern California. Yes,
this is his immediate reaction to the trade.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Oh it's over, It is over now. Yeah, hey, Brian,
I fucks with you. Hey, you know what, main Plika,
I fucks with you. Oh boy, oh man, we about
to win a championship. Ain't we be about the Wisdom
(21:25):
Ship now. I'm proud to be a layer and.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
La Natives.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
I'm so proud to be an l A Native.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, it's still Nick Young. He's still a clown, but
super talented clown. Why could have played for you? Because
we can't. That's it for the end the Modus Podcast.
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
What up, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app
Welcome in. Ah. Yeah, So was there a Pro Bowl
this weekend? Guys? Because I saw some like flag football highlights.
(00:36):
Was there a Pro Bowl this weekend? I think there was?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, I saw some of the games, you know, like
the little the little.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Pro Bowl games.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't know there was.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
They were like guys from the NFL participating in these
you know, little skills games, and I don't know what
it was.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You know, it's it's one of the things that you like,
you don't want to be critical fans because fans do
essentially pay our bills. But can we all agree that
people going to watch NFL players play flag football and
do other stuff is just kind of weird, isn't it.
It's like you don't have anything else going on, anything
(01:20):
else going on. I mean, I like, I don't even
get the well, I just went there to get an autographer.
I went there to take a picture with the dude. Like,
I don't even get that. Am I too cynical too. Uh,
what's the word I'm looking for. I'm not entitled, but
I'm not looking down on fans. I just don't understand.
(01:44):
I literally, I've never understood anybody watching the Pro Bowl.
Now they don't even have a Pro Bowl, they have
these games. I really don't understand anybody watching them.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Out of all the things that I saw on the
internet this weekend, almost none of it was about these
probo games. But I saw a lot of Peyton Manning's
son throwing a TD pass to Jamar Chase. I saw
a lot of that. That was the takeaway from the
from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
If you're the NFL, yeah, I just it's one of
those deals where I don't even and there's a lot
of people. I do have respect for people that put
on these events. You know, all the people that are
like college interns or the NFL has a whole planning
group and they do a great job like putting on
the events. Mike, Mike, just my honest question is like,
(02:34):
how little do you have to have going on in life.
I'll give you example. So you know, obviously two jobs
kids in college, one in high school, and I was
going to with my day off yesterday I was going
to go see my son Hayes, who goes to high
school in Oklahoma, and it just was too much. And
the big thing was everyone in Oklahoma seems to have
(02:56):
the flu, like it's really going around. So I'm like, well,
I'm not gonna get sick going to going to the
super Bowl by going to Oklahoma and then infecting everybody else.
It was pretty So I had Sunday like, off, let
me just tell you the things I did Jays two.
I got a new TV. I got a haircut. I
took my dog for uh you got to play outside
(03:20):
end game of bath. I cleaned my house, I cooked,
I had like a I got a chance to do
a bunch of reading recruiting calls, watched a bunch of
you know, some some of our team, some of our opponents,
some of the guys recruiting and other college basketball, just
to stay up with stuff. In one of the games
(03:40):
to top teams in our league. Like I had so
much time in my day, I was like, oh my god,
this is amazing. If the and I live, you can
see Lambeau sort of. You can see like the jumbo
tron from my house. Now it's fifteen minutes away, but
you know, there's water, and there's a bridge, and you
could see the Fox and a little bit you could
(04:01):
see Lambell if it was right there. And somebody gave
me free tickets and free beer, and I had the
day to do all the things that I did, or
go to watch superstar NFL players, with the exception of
the actual ones that I really care about, playing in
shirts and Shortsley's playing flag football and doing all this stuff.
(04:22):
I would not go, am I the only one? Would you? Guys?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Go?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let Get the Foxes and now every day. This time
we played for your portion of a previous show on
Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One. Here's Dan Patrick. He
had this reaction to the Luca.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Trade, getting messages on my phone that was like, OMG,
question mark exclamation point?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What the uugh?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Question mark exclamation point? And I don't know what's happened.
So all of a sudden, you go, I gotta contact somebody.
So I sent a message to my wife, I said,
is everything okay. She said, yeah, did you hear about
the Luka Doncik? Is that how you pronounce his name?
I go, you know it before I know it? And
she said, yes, everybody on the internet is talking about this.
(05:23):
Is that how you pronounce his name? I said, yes,
it is Luka Doncik traded to the Lakers. And you
start to think about all the insiders. People get paid
millions and millions of dollars to be the insider. Give
us a heads up there, and then all of a sudden,
nobody was an insider. Nobody had any information on this.
Even the players involved in the deal had no idea
(05:45):
that this was going on. Now, I understand the mab
side of this with Luca that you're not going to
tell him. If you're getting ready to part ways with him,
you're not going to say anything to him. The Lakers
with Lebron Lebron friends with Ad, brought Ad in from
New Orleans. They want a title together, their buds. Then
there was a report there at odds with one another.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a there's a lot to it.
There's no there. They weren't at odds with each other.
This was we talked about it. At the open of
the show, we talked about the open of the pod.
The reality to this is the Mavericks just decided the
juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Three hundred and fifty million
(06:31):
dollars to Luca meant they were okay with him not
playing defense and consistently not being in shape. And for
the Lakers, I mean, it's the reset of the shot clock,
for for for Rob Polinka, because because this team, I mean,
I mean, come on, man, you got three non defenders
in your starting out, Your three best offensive players are
(06:53):
non defenders. You have no chance of winning that way.
So my guess is that the Lakers, I mean, this
is just a deal presented to them, fell right in
their laps and they can feel great about it, but
it's great about the future. Their challenge is going to
be how can they get Luca to play defense? How
can they get Luca to consistently be in shape? Some
(07:15):
of the Mavericks could not get him to do because
in the offensive side of the ball, he's the best
player in the NBA by a you know, and he
makes people better. But it's a lot to try and
build an entire team around you. For the Mavericks. They're
not perfect, they don't have a point guard, but they'll
be really, really good defensively. And maybe there's one more
(07:35):
deal they can make now that they have so much
length defending the basket with Lively Gafford and Anthony Davis.
But I don't think this is the Lakers saying we're
not going to win this year, but we're gonna get
our next superstar for years to come. And for the Mavericks,
it's the we just we can't go three hundred and
(07:58):
fifty million dollars for a guy that we struggle to
get in shape and to play defense. That's three out
of Here's Rob Parker on the trade.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
I come away with two things. A the Lakers are
preparing for life after Lebron. That's why you would go
out and get an international young player twenty five year
old Luca Doncic for Anthony Davis. I mean, what else
could it be? And Number two, from Dallas's standpoint, why
(08:34):
you would give up a young player with so much
talent is you have to be convinced that you can't
win a championship With Luca. We get the conditioning concerns,
we get the defensive liability all that kind of stuff.
But he's a talented player, one of the best in
(08:55):
the league. And to give up on him and decide
you don't want to give him a super Max contract
and you don't want him a part of your franchise
for the long term at that age is shocking. What
a trade. I don't think the Lakers are anything better
in the short term. Long term, I get the game
(09:15):
plan for having Luca, but the short term, defensively, where
does that leave this team? I don't think it makes
it any better where they have a shot at winning
a championship or something. But man, what a shocker or
a Saturday night from the NBA.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah no, listen, I completely agree with him. Long term,
Lucas they're next star. Short term, they're not an NBA
championship team, But I would say that if we're honest,
they won a championship team this year even before they
made that deal. Here's Colin Coward and the reasons the
MAVs made the deal.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
NKO Harrison has for not very long been the general
manager of Dallas, and he's a risk taker. He did
the Kyrie move. Everybody criticized him, it worked. He made
that big move at the trade deadline last year. It
got him into the finals in big swings, He's different,
but this feels like an absolutely, egregiously bad moves. So
(10:07):
why did he make the move? Well, let's start with this.
I think the reason that Michael Jordan is the most
popular basketball player of all time. Kobe Bryant's up there too,
is that relentlessness, that work ethic that's not Luca. He's
often in poor shape and is a lousy defender, and
(10:29):
he's hurt increasingly more and more and more due to
his bad conditioning. So there's a little shack in Luca,
and the Lakers moved off Shack, right, they had a choice.
They took Kobe the relentless worker. So is that the
reason they moved off him? The Maverick owners are staring
(10:50):
down the barrel of seventy four million dollars a year contract,
and he doesn't defend. He's hard on teammates, but won't
play defense.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I think it's all that. I think Colin pretty
much nailed it, you know, And I think they just
got to the point where they felt like, you know,
it's like we talk about the Lakers. It did fall
into Lakers lab and it doesn't mean it works with
the Lakers, but it's not like they went out and
sought out this trade. The trade just kind of happened
for him because of Niko's relationship with Rob going back
(11:21):
to the Kobe when when Nico worked at Nike. I
think everybody has the same view of how this thing
went down. And the big question now is to the
Lakers make a move this year? Do they move Lebron?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
What do they do? Because this is They're not winning
a championship even competing with one with their current roster
unless they had defense across the board, because right now
they look like one of the worst defensive teams in
the league with their current with with this this with
Austin Reeves, Lebron, James Luka, Dancik, that dog won't hunt.
(11:56):
It's be fun to watch, but that dog won't hunt
at all. That's what the say.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
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Speaker 2 (12:13):
Let's find out who are what is the annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Hey, Doug just brought Doug three two one, uh brought
this up. Nicol Harris, Nicol Harrison, I don't know who
that is, but he was the GM of the Mavericks
and he, he and Jason Kidd were sitting there yesterday
and it was just really awkward. Jason Kidd, I don't
(12:47):
know if this is just his normal demeanor, but he
couldn't look less pleased to be there or less pleased
with the trade. Supposedly he found out when everybody else did.
But this was one of Nicol Harrison's answers about short
term and long term?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Do you think you think this will work in the
short term?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
In the long term?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Short?
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Short term makes great sense. How do you see this
working out well for the organization.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
In the long term?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Well, I think the long term is the time frame.
I think he fits our time frame. If you pair
him with Kyrie and the rest of the guys, he
fits right along with our time frame to win now
and win in the future. And the future to me
is three four years from now, in the future ten
years from now, I don't know. I don't think they
probably bury me and Jay Buddy or we bear ourselves yet.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So there's like this nervous laughter and ten years, you
guys might bury us or we might bury ourselves. Whatever.
To me, if I'm a Mavericks fan, I kind of
just want the guy that runs my team to be like,
very confident, like we got one of the best players
in the world, one of the best best defensive players
in the world, and we're moving forward. Not this kind
(13:55):
of hym and han in ten years you might bury
us things.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
No, I get it. I think he was doing the
aug shucks thing. And you know I in terms of demeanor,
that's Jason Kidd's demeanor. That's how he is. He's very
standoffish with the media, very very and he gives up.
You know, he's not it's not who he is. So
(14:19):
I get that he annoys you with the uh, we
might be dead in ten years, but it's just it's
just an effort to be self deprecating and to be
AUGI shucks kind of like pushing your feet around, pushing
the dirt, pushing the dirt around your feet sort of thing.
Who else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So I think that there's going to be this, like
I don't know if this is going to be like
one of those forever Where were you when you know?
Where were you when Kobe died? When were you you know?
Where were you when Magic retired? I don't think it's
going to be one of those, but maybe, But I
will say this, for the very short time here, it
(14:55):
shocked everybody. And I think maybe the most impressive part
about the entire thing was a this deal was done
without any leaks, without any any even like there weren't
even any like rumors, any speculation.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I hit up Mark Stein, who knows the Maus better
than anybody. I hit him up yesterday. He had no
idea this was coming. And so Shams or Scham's what
is it? Chams Shams? He broke the news, but like
the problem was, I guess. And this speaks to your
point about Twitter and everybody being allowed the blue check mark.
(15:31):
It speaks to where we're at now politically, and no
one believes anything anyone says, but no one really. There
was this period of time for everybody of like verifying
making sure this was the story. Shams himself had to
verify his own story, and he explained it today on
(15:51):
first take.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
I mean, I thought my phone was hacked when I
got the text messages with the details of the trade
and when I got wind of the deal.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But you peel back the curtain.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
And for the Mavericks, they honestly internally believe that this
move puts them in a better position to win a championship.
Of course, there are issues that they had obviously with
Luca Dantis's conditioning levels to an extent.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But so not only did everybody think this guy had
his account hacked, he thought himself that he had his
phone hacked. That was the most annoying part of this
breaking story, the timing, and then everyone was in this
like weird wimbo trying to get verification.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I was the same thing with me. I texted uh,
I tooxed his Stein. I texted Rick Bucker, I texted Rissillo,
I texted Colin, like all of our all our guys.
I even texted WOJ and I was like, is this real?
And they're like, we think so all of them are like,
(16:57):
I guess. And then within like two or three minut
and it's all of them texted back like yeah, I
guess it is real. That is the most impressive part. Especially,
that's the difference thing. You know, if Magic Johnson would
have been at the helmet the Lakers. We would have
known about it like a month ago, month ago, so
that it is one of the things that Rob has changed.
But it was a pretty interesting night. What else? Who
(17:20):
else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I need to bring in Iowa Sam here to give
him his flowers or to give him a couple of seconds. Sam,
Just first and foremost, what did you think as you
watched the footage of Kaitlin Clark's being retired? Caitlin Clark's
number being retired by the Iowa.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hawkeyes seemed like a perfect kind of day in Iowa
City for that they got the win over USC, number
four USC and they The thing is is they didn't
show the retirement ceremony after the game. They cut away
to something else, so you had to like go on
to Twitter or you had to go to you know,
(17:59):
other outlet. It's to actually watch some of the footage
of her jersey being or her number being retired.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
So nobody moving forward in Iowa basketball is going to
wear twenty two? Or is it just a women women's basketball?
I think it's just on the women's side. Okay, that sucks.
Not only would I want them to extend it to
the men's side of Iowa basketball. I want NCUBA to
step in and retire it from anybody in the NCAAB
(18:27):
and overware. I want him to go full Jackie Robinson
on this. And for no other reason than to see
the reaction of the WNBA writers, the WNBA, all the
other women's basketball. I want to see all the reaction
if the nc DOUBLEA were to say nobody's ever to
wear number twenty two in the history of the moving
(18:50):
forward in the nc DOUBLEA. What do you think, Doug, Yeah, no,
how fun would that be to see the reaction?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I mean, why would we do that? Because she she
scored more points than any woman to play women's college basketball,
so we retire the number.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, the same reason Iowall retired it. Whatever whatever greatness
she had at Iowaiz she's changed women's basketball, supposedly. I
just I just want to see the whining and all
the all the just like bullshit stuff that comes out
of your typical Caitlin Clark being put on a pedestal.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You know, Oh, that that part would be fun. I
agree that that actually agree with you, just just for
the reaction that's fun.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yes, I'm not I'm not one hundred percent certain that
a male Iowa Hawkeye basketball player couldn't wear twenty two.
I think that they could. I think it's just on
the women's side. I just I don't know for sirtain.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
What was Chris Street's number, Chris.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Short, Yes, something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
At the top of my head, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He was forty. I think it's forty anymore.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
There's a guy named Chris Straight.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
No, Chris Street. He was the team captain for Iowa
for me, and he died in a car died in
a car accident after playing a game one night, like
in a snowstorm. And there's a Chris Street Award. It's
a historical number in Iowa basketball. Okay.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
The way I was down with Shams and the Nico
Harrison being kind of meek and I need Kendalls talk
to have her number retired across the board.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think the way it went down with Shams is annoying.
The fact that that there was no all these insiders
and nobody had any insight.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Why do I.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Because we can.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Let's see Nick Young. Nick Young played for a lot
of teams, but he played at the Lakers at some
point I want to say you played for the Clippers.
He was a USC trojan. I think he's from southern California. Yes,
this is his immediate reaction to the trade.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Oh it's over, It is over now. Yeah, hey, Brian,
I fucks with you. Hey, you know what, main Plika,
I fucks with you. Oh boy, oh man, we about
to win a championship. Ain't we be about the Wisdom
(21:25):
Ship now. I'm proud to be a layer and.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
La Natives.
Speaker 10 (21:32):
I'm so proud to be an l A Native.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, it's still Nick Young. He's still a clown, but
super talented clown. Why could have played for you? Because
we can't. That's it for the end the Modus Podcast.
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