February 3, 2025 • 43 mins
On today's edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug gives his reaction to the Luka Doncic deal and gives out some real talk on why this trade was done.
In today's version of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hates most about their weekends.
Doug welcomes FS1 NBA analyst Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about how the Luka deal went down and get into how both teams look going forward.
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hey, welcome in. So it's super weak. We got a
whole crew in New Orleans. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Can I I want to do something that's really really,
really really quick. Okay, I am making the cognitive choice
to either call it Nola or New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I understand, I fully understand and respect the fact that
people from Knowlns Okay pronounce it differently. But I won't
be that phony that only correctly pronounces one word in
the Cajun kind of French lexicon. Does that make sense,
(01:22):
like I've never really understood that. Like people will call
a soccer field a pitch, let's field here, and then
all the other words that they use, they use the
Americanized words. Right, it's a telephone, not a telly. They
don't call things a bubbla, you know. So I mean,
I just I'm not gonna do the knowledge and everything
at two fay. I'm just not because I don't. It's
(01:46):
not how I speak. So I'm gonna say New Orleans, right,
isn't that the right?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Or Nola? I don't know. Anyway, it's the site of
the Super Bowl. It should be.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's a lot of discussion points, but we got plenty
of time.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Instead, let's react to.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The news of the moment, the news of the week. Frankly,
it's probably going to be the news maybe of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
This is an NBA year where we've had very very
little drama. The most drama we've had in the NBA,
to be honest, is the old heads that inside the
NBA receiving criticism from current NBA players and some NBA
people that their critical nature of the current style of
(02:34):
play is one of the main reasons more people aren't
watching the NBA. That's actually probably the biggest story up
until the last forty eight hours of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And then this happens.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Luka Doncik is now a member of the LA Lakers,
Anthony Davis is now member of the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And I don't know where you were. I can tell
you where I was. It was in my bed.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
We lost a game on Saturday afternoon in Detroit. We
fly home, I get in bed. I'm going through a
bunch of text messages and sending out some notes and
looking at some emails. And then all of a sudden,
I get an alert that Luke has been traded and
Sham Sharania is reporting it. And of course, because I'm
(03:20):
not a trusting person of Twitter these days, I texted
all of my buddies that have anything to do with
being an insider.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Rick Bucker is going to join us? What in twenty minutes?
I texted Buke? Is this real?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I texted woj even though he's at Saint Bonaventure, is
this real?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Like you name it?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
All the people I thought would know, and everybody had
a delayed like I, I guess it appears to be real.
It appears to be real. Uh, we have some sounds
from the people involved. I'll give you my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think this is an incredibly bold move by Nico Harrison.
Now it may be dumb, but it is bold. But
it is bold, and before I'm critical of it's funny.
I woke up this morning and I was presented with
a very easy kind of quote of the day that
(04:16):
I saw on social media, and its aid Teddy Roosevelt quote.
The only man who never makes mistake is the man
who never does anything. The only man who never makes
mistakes is a man who doesn't do that, a man
who never does anything. Let me try that one more time.
The only man who never makes mistakes is the man
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who never does anything. It's Teddy Roosevelt. He also had
walk quietly and carry a big stick. I like that one.
I've used that at one bunch. But let's get to
his quote of the day. If we're honest with ourselves,
and you're not going to get a more honest voice
in regards to the world of basketball than me. I
believe that offensively, Luka Doncik is the best player in
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the NBA. He's incredible when he's healthy. He can literally
lead a team to the NBA Finals that is not
crazy talented. But when every year you have to worry
about his weight, when he doesn't play defense, when he
covetches on every call, and I'm sure coaches decisions as well,
(05:21):
it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And then when you have the three hundred and fifty
million dollar contract that he was going to command and
receive in the offseason, because that's what we do in
the NBA. We pay the best players as much money
as we can possibly play them. Whether we like them
or love them or have to have them, or even
if they like or love us, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's what you do.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Again, I would be it would be really hard for
me to trade Luca. I think he's awesome, and I
do think there's not redundancies with Anthony Davis, but Daniel Gaffert,
Derek Lively, like, they already have big, they already have
great rim protection, great defense, and they don't have a
point guard. Kyrie is a great score. He's not a
(06:05):
point guard. But I actually understand what he's trying to do.
Why would I sign up for a supermax contract for
a guy who refuses to stay in shape, refuses to
and refuses to play defense. When Anthony Davis already has
his contract. It is not the Supermax. It's a huge deal,
but he's won a championship and we got him for
(06:28):
a couple more years, but we don't have to give
him three hundred fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And yes, Anthony Davis been her luck, Luca's been her luck.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
This to me is Nico Harrison saying, Look, it wasn't
going to work with Luca. He wasn't going to play
enough and you know, might not have been healthy enough.
And oh yeah, by the way, he's never going to
be in shape. It's going to be a constant, like
if you give a guy three hundred and.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Chris Carter had this great expression, great expression, and it
goes something like this, money doesn't change you. Money makes
you more of who you are. And Luca likes to
drink beer, likes to drink wine, loves to play basketball.
He's a hooper, he's a bucket, He's an unbelievable player.
But if you give Luka Doncik this upcoming offseason, after
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how he took care of himself up coming into this season,
three hundred and fifty million guaranteed. Why would he ever
change why would he ever change his ways? And you
have people NBA players who are like, man, that's just
a business. This is what happens. This is just a business.
The truth is, this has not been the business. This
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has been an NBA that has been run by players
and their agents for the last decade or maybe even
more so. Many of these trades that are made are
dictated a lot like what we're seeing from uh what's
the name Garrett with uh with the with the Cleveland Browns.
He just demanded a trade. Right, I'm not going from here.
(08:05):
I want to go win a Super Bowl. Get me
out of here. That's how the NBA has worked. Guy
doesn't think he can win at the place who drafted him,
gave him everything, built up his career, gave him all
kinds of opportunity. Then they're like, I'm out, they forced
they worry out. Trade me many Anthony Davis, look around
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the NBA at so many of these trades.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Most of them are made.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
By the star player and the and or their agent
demanding terms. Get me out of here. Kyrie Irvy, how
many time has he been moved Lebron James. How many
times does he move now there's a free agency whatever.
But the point is that it has the pendulum swung
completely into the players, and so you can say what
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you want about the actual deal. I think Nico Harrison
should have gotten a little bit more, should have gotten
another first round pick. I definitely think you should have
got another first round pick. I don't think he got enough.
But it wasn't a deal that was dictated by Luca.
It wasn't Luca refusing to sign an extension, so of
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them finding a way or signing trade or whatever. This
was a no, no, no, this is what we want
to do, and we're going to do it because we
think it's best for our team. Does it feel like
a mistake, Probably right, Probably. You know, Anthony Davis is
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an unbelievable player when he's healthy. In the last year
and a half he's been healthy. But betting on that
guy to stay healthy is betting on Luca to play defense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Very unlikely.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But I do think that this Theodore Roosevelt quote is
a pretty good one. The only man who never makes
mistakes is the man who never does anything, and that
is a shot at so many keyboard Warriors, or maybe
more importantly, at people who suggested he do nothing, sit tight,
(10:08):
you made the finals, get him back. I guarantee that
as talented as Luca is, he's a pain in the backside, right.
It's got to be frustrating to constantly be worrying about
his weight constantly and to have to build a team
four on five because you know your best player will
(10:29):
not play defense. Guys that make these types of bold decisions,
those are the guys that you have to have respect for,
even if it doesn't work. Even if it doesn't work
s Dout Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Here
(10:51):
is Nico Harrison explaining how the trade came to be.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Trades don't happen at the smallest level without stuff getting out.
And Rob and I were able to have, you know,
really intense conversations over the course of you know, three
or four weeks that started out as a coffee that
you know, it was more, hey, would you ever I
don't know, would I let me think of it? You know,
and then it built them on that and you know,
(11:16):
we we kept it between us. We had to, we
had to keep it tight. Jay Kid didn't know about it,
but Jaki and I are aligned and we talk about
archetypes and we talk about the culture that we want
to create. So I know the type of players that
that he likes without actually talking to him, Hey, would
you like you know?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I know that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And JK coached them when they won a championship, So
so I think when you're aligned with your coach like that,
I know the type of players that he likes, and
so I felt good about it. It making sense to
where we're trying to go.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
The other part I like about it is uh and
the Hawks had been this for years where they made
the Eastern Conference Finals once and they were convinced that
they were really close. And now they're like, yeah, we're
not that close, and they started revamping stuff. We've seen
this from lots of NBA teams. Heck, we see it
from NFL teams. They get to the super Bowl and
they think they're really close and they're not, You're not
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that close. You kind of got lighting in the bottle,
you got a nice draw whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Right. The Mavericks got.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
To the NBA Finals and many people think, well, they're
really close, and Jay Kid's like, yeah, that doesn't I've
been around this game the guys that make it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And win consistently play both ends. He ain't it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
When you hear the word culture, you know that they
don't think Luca is part of that culture. And I
get the idea that way you trade him to La
and he's around Lebron who takes care of his body.
He's the around Lebron who doesn't play defense anymore, but
he used to and he tries, so he willed to
try and love like that doesn't that's not how it works.
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If Luca hasn't gotten in shape to this place, then
he made the NBA finals, why would he ever get
in shape? Doesn't just change who you are when you've
been doing it one year for one way for twenty
five years. So I think I have always thought the
world of Luka Doncik, but I don't have to deal
with them on a daily basis. And there's an expression
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that all guys know, all guys know, and I do
think it appeal applies to Luca, and I think it
applies to lots of NBA stars, but to Luca.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Have you ever heard this? One? Jace two?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
For every beautiful woman you see, there's a guy who's
tired of dealing with her.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
They Lee Trevino said that once a clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They don't say tired of dealing with her. I think
a lot of men know the translation. But men do
say that, and they say, for every beautiful woman you see,
there's a guy who's tired of deal with her. Have
you ever heard that expression?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yes, I heard. Lee Trevino said that every poshouse once.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Very possible, very possible.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I think that's what this is. For every great NBA
player there is, there's a GM coach, president, owner who's
just tired of it all. And that's what happened in Dallas.
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We're still reacting to the Luka Doncic trade. I guess
there could be the Anthony Davis for Luca Doncik trade.
Dearon Fox Scott Trade. I will say this that congrats
to mostly to Nico Harrison. You know, the NBA had
been usurped by the NFL on Christmas Day, right, and
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even though Lebron's like, this is our holiday, is.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Our Christmas Day?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Like yeah, the numbers say otherwise. Good for the NBA
to kind of strike back. This is supposed to be
the celebration of football week, with the Super Bowl culminating
the week in New Orleans on Sunday, and the NBA
is all anybody's talking about right now. But let's let's
recap our weekend personally professionally with something we do every
Monday called love and Hate.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You love God, I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
These player hays?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
All right here, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Love
and Hate.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
What'd you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from
the weekend? Meyer? You're a lover? What'd you love?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well?
Speaker 7 (16:17):
I loved hanging out with my son at the park
on Saturday. It was a glorious Saturday afternoon. But I
won't I won't make that as my love although it
was number one on my list. We had a great time.
He was from jungle Gym to Jungle Gym. But this
weekend was unique, and it wasn't always like this, Doug,
because of the NFL, because of the PGA Tour and
how things scheduled. The AT and T Pebble Beach pro
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Am used to be after the Super Bowl the week after.
In fact, you would have a lot of the big
names from the NFL competing in that pro am event.
And I know I've said this before on the show
that pure golf fans kind of loathed the pro am
because of long rounds, lame interviews, and clubs trying to
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be funny but they're not really funny. But you had
such a unique week at Pebble Beach with the weather
and the elements, and then you have Rory McElroy rising
to the occasion. And still, whether you like the layout
at Pebble or not, you still have to say that
it's amazing even better when you're there. But it was
a fun weekend. So this past weekend with the PGA
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Tour stopped being at Pebble Beach, I really enjoyed the
action from this weekend and they got a great champion
in the signature event in Rory McElroy.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Hey, Dan, Yes, the one thing I saw from Pebble
Beach this weekend was a golfer pro orm. I don't
know who it was, took out one of the marshals.
Who was that? And how is the volunteer doing? So?
Speaker 7 (17:45):
I don't know how the volunteer is doing. There was
no one around him and it was on Shane Lowry's
tea shot and his was You could say it was
a fade, but it really did look like it was
a slice. And there was right nobody within twenty yards
of the guy and Doug, I don't know you saw
it or not. The guy could have stepped one step
away either front, back, left or right. It would not
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have been hit by the flying object, but he stood still,
not knowing that it was on its way, and it
nailed him. It was yeah, it was not good. Oh
that's rough, dangerous. I saw another one where a guy
had the ball. It landed in his arm as he
was like holding his phone, and so they had to wait.
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So the guy's holding his arm against his body with
the ball stuck there, and the guy who hit it
is stup. Francis used to head up the USGA. And yeah,
so as a as a spectator, you're not supposed to move.
You're not supposed to move from your spot because then
you can get the free drop from the from the
player would get the free drop. But you get that
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when you have amateurs on the course. Happens. I love
the golf this weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Jasetu, what you got?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You kind of stole my thunder on this, But I
will from my angle this Luca trade for someone who's
in charge of generating content for my career. This was
really the first time that we've talked about the NBA
this season where the conversation wasn't what's wrong with the
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NBA Like up until now, literally eighty percent of the
content is why is nobody watching, Why is nobody interesting?
What rules need to be changed? Adam Silver has been
doing interviews everywhere saying proposal to change maybe the forty
eight to forty minutes. So I think, I guess it's
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nice that we could actually talk about substance. Still, nothing
really on the court. This is all kind of off
the court stuff and how it went down and everything.
But I guess I love the fact that this kind
of yeah, this says injected some interesting content for the
NBA this week.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Sam My Love of the Weekend had to love the
scene in Iowa City on Sunday where Iowa was hosting
the Iowa women were hosting number four USC, and of
course the main attraction was not just the game. The
main attraction was really Caitlyn Clark coming back to town
to have her number twenty two and jersey put up
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the number twenty two retired and the jersey put up
in the rafters. I did check on this. The number
twenty two is only retired on the women's side, so
I guess that you know, if a male Iowa basketball
player wanted to wear twenty two in the future, he could.
That's all well and good, so Kaitlyn Clark was back
in town. David Letterman was in the crowd. He he
loves the Indiana fever. He loves watching Kaitlyn Clark. Lisa
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Bluter was their former coach to take on the number
four Trojans who have been wiped had been up until
that point wiping the floor with people, especially the lesser
than teams in the Big Ten like Perdue and Rutgers,
beating him anywhere from you know, fifty point beat downs,
but not on Sunday. Iowa came in a twelve and
a half point underdog in that game and somehow pulled
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out the victory, winning seventy six sixty nine, only USC's
second loss of the season. The other one before that
was to Notre Dame was a top three team. So
after the game, after, you know, I fully expected Iowa
to just get blown out in this game. They had
been struggling this season. They had lost five straight up
until a now three game winning streak. But I did
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not expect Iowa to compete in this game. But they did,
and they pulled out the victory, and so it was
even more warm and fuzzy bubbles after the game for
the retirement ceremony. Absolutely killer crushing day in Iowa City
at Carver Hackey Arena felt like the old times when
she was still wearing twenty two in the black and
gold for Iowa. So that was my love, just the
absolute showcase of women's college basketball and honoring Kitlyn Clark
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in her stellar four years in Iowa City.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Sam Sam missed the best part?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
What did I miss there?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
How about Lindsay Gottlie keeping her Trojans on the bench
to watch it.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
After a loss? No relation, doug out, how about that?
That is huge, that's classy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, Lindsay's awesome.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
You want to take credit for her because her last
names gotlieb done well.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Lindsay and I are friends, and she's really good friends
with my brother. They were at CAL at the same time,
and we always say that she's my sister by different parents. Anyway,
she's a fabulous coach obviously UCSB col then she went
to the NBA as b Line's assistant, and now she's
back at USC doing a great, great job.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Thank you for bringing that up, Dan. That is a
wonderful thing.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I forgot to mention that a lot of teams wouldn't
do that, and that is an incredibly classy thing to do,
especially taking a loss. If they had one by thirty,
that'd be one thing. But they're taking a loss and
they sat to honor King and Clark. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I would. I'm gonna do college basketball as well.
Not my group.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We lost Saturday, but we have these charters that we
get to fly home on and we took two charters home,
so most of the coaches flew home the second one,
so we had like two and a half hour wait,
and I got to watch the Baylor comeback. Baylor was
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down in twenty one I think or nineteen the half
to Kansas, came back and won by like fifteen. It's
good to see that happen to somebody else, even though
it was Bill self. And then we watched the start
of the Duke game, who just blew the doors.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Off of North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And again, when you're in the heart of it and
you're in the thick of it and you're struggling and
your team's not healthy and you can't make a shot
when you need to make a shot, et cetera, you're
just like, oh, everything stinks, everything's bad. And then you
watch college basketball like you know this is still awesome,
still awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Duke is amazing in their talent.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I thought Baylor's come back and the new Faral Center
was incredible. And then you kind of pull yourself out
of your own personal gloom and doom and you go,
you know what, want to be a part of this
as a coach, and now I am so, and you
know we look, our season is a four game season.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
We could win four, We could actually play in the
NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So I loved watching college basketball on Sunday and watching
the best of the best and taking that energy from
those two buildings to try and go, that's all that
is possible, all that is out in front of your life,
and stop feeling sorry for yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
So I really like that.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I got a question about your game, Doug. I was
watching it and it was the We got the ESPN
Plus feed with the Detroit announcer, so maybe they were
a little biased with this. So at the very very end,
I think there was like seven seconds left their ball
and you chose to call a time out. I think
your team was down fourteen or whatever, and the announcer
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at the time was like, ooh, the Detroit head coach
isn't gonna like that one? Was that a little games
one ship there? Or why do you call that time out?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Do you want the real reason or do you want
the reason that I would say in.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
The media, What's I want the real one? Huh?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The reason I'd say in the media is, Hey, we're competing,
no matter what. Get a bucket, call a time out,
get in the press or whatever. The real reason was,
I don't feel like we have gotten I've never walked
away from a game like I thought we got the
good end the officiating. I haven't always thought it was
(25:20):
badder against us, and I didn't think it was the
main cause for us losing to Detroit. But I thought
there were a couple of calls where it wasn't just
that the calls didn't go our way. It was the
way in which one of the officials refused to actually
even discuss it or act like, hey, you might have
(25:42):
missed it. And so I may have made a semi
circle a little bit wider to stand on the court
to make sure that the official in question knew that, Hey,
you're gonna have to stay out here until I'm getting
ready to go home.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
That's why I thought you.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Nothing to do with Mark.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They did a good job that That program was absolutely
dead in the water last year and they've done a
good job. Congrats to them winning. Nothing to do with
gamesmanship with them. Uh okay, let's get to hate. Do
you guys like that though? By the way, rookie coach
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of a solid VET move.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yes, I thought the announcers were obviously their local from
the truit, But I actually I thought they did a
good job on.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I will tell them they did a very good job.
You know why I didn't know they did a good job.
They actually called me and we've played every game has
been on ESPN Plus and they are the Oakland sideline
reporter called me. But like I just I did games
for years. I can't believe that's the first one. Not
Green Bay. Our group calls me all the time. That
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has actually that and our first game, our Providence game,
was on Fox. Other than that, all these other guys
they just go and go blind when like I can
give you the answers to the test. I know how
broadcasting actually works. But whatever, what Jay for the weekend, Jase.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Tuo, it kind of hits home where you're at and
I know you have our relationship with Packers president Mark Murphy,
and this isn't necessarily a shot at him, but he
did say in a online piece over the weekend that
he's not a fan of the tush push. He says
there's no skill involved, and it's almost an automatic first
down on plays at are yard or less that ridiculous
(27:28):
set of circumstances where the Commanders were jumping off sides,
and he goes on to say that they hope that
they ban it. I've never quite understood the whole thing
of one team does something really good, so it should
be banned. It's like the other thirty plus teams whatever
have a chance to do it themselves. I just don't
understand what the reason would be for the NFL to
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ban it, other than nobody could stop it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
JASEU, I mean, I was Sam, I have a couple
of Can I share a couple of three different no?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
No? From college? I need just one, just one.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Well, I had a lot of hates from this weekend
in college basketball, but I'll just go with the one
that's closest or most recent. That would be the already
struggling Iowa Hawkeyes. The Iowa men losing their center Owen
Freeman to finger surgery. He will be out the rest
of the season after having surgery on his hand.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Oh he stole my.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Sorry, Dan, that's very specifically you want to talk about
Iowa player.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Iowa was already struggling. They had lost four of five.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Before this news was announced, and Owen Freeman was their
most consistent. He was a top scorer and top rebounder.
So now he's out the rest of the season. This
just this season feels like it's a rap. If the
if the Iowa women were kind of working their stock
back up now winning three in a row after the
upset of USC, iowas lost four of five and they're
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on the road at number or they're taking on number
seven per Due at home and then number twenty one
Wisconsin at home. That does not bode well for the
Ibo men. Maybe they can shock me, but I just
hate the fact that Owen Freeman, their center, is out,
and that's a big loss for Iowa. So kind of
made me a little a little sad.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
All right, Dan, do you have time to recover because
I know that was yours.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I do have something not as
not as important as that was, but I'll tell you,
I will piggyback on what a lot of people felt
on Saturday that we hated that college game Day decided,
oh let's go to Durham for Duke North Carolina when
coach Cal returned to RUP, and what a scene it was.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
That was weird. That's a weird decisions.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
So weird.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
But what an atmosphere and what a game. I mean,
Arkansas I.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Loved, I loved it. I mean Coach Cal going in
there and I loved it. Yeah, it was amazing, totally.
It was a great atmosphere. Forty minutes.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
I mean, Arkansas shot the ball better than the they
think they have all season. But you also have guys
on that team that had a bone to pick, and
I think people forgot about that, that it wasn't just
about Cal and that was just a great college basketball game.
And I know you're not going to get that every
night because of the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It was a great Saturday. But that was amazing.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Yeah, amazing, really really great time. And I usually don't
I wanted to make it a love But the way
we can hate it is that ESPN didn't even recognize
it as the game of the weekend. And went with
chalk with Duke in North Carolina, and there was a
chalk outline of North Carolina left at Cameron because they
got guilt.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There was they got smoked. I hate losing. I hate losing.
I hate losing, but I'm not gonna let dissuay me
get me off my course. I hate losing. And that's
love and hate.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
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Speaker 1 (31:04):
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Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's super Bowl Week.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And you know usually super Bowl Week, as we talked
about in the open, is reserved for nonsensical football talk
previewing a game. Hey, give me a score or we
have and we'll have this rest of the week. Big
name guest after big name guest at a big name
guest that talks a little football and then pitches a product.
But Rob Polinka and Nico Harrison gave us this gift
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as Rob blink likes to say from above from Hannah right,
and it's Luca is now a Laker and Ad is
now a Maverick. Let's get to Rick Buker, who I
told you guys in the open. I texted Buke right
when it came down, because Buke is he knows way
more than he lets he tweets about whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And I was like, is this real.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It took you, I don't know, somewhere in the neighborhood
of two minutes to go.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yes, it appears to be.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
So let's just start at the time when you saw it.
When I texted you. What was your reaction when you
first saw the deal.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
When I first saw the deal, I thought I didn't
I couldn't believe it. I didn't believe it. I thought
that whoever put it out had had their account hacked,
and that someone had just decided to pull a prank.
And then you texted me, and and I saw that like,
(32:39):
it wasn't being pulled back, no one was. It wasn't
out on any any sites, but it also wasn't being
announced as this is wrong. And so then I, you know,
texted someone who I knew would know if it was
actually happening. And that's then I texted you and said confirmed,
(32:59):
and and then I started just kind of, you know,
going talking to people around the league, and no one
had saw at No one saw it coming. It really
was kept under wraps. And the more I dug into it,
the more I thought that this is really a reflection
of where the NBA is right now. A lot of
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people are shocked by how it came down and the
deal and all of that, but I really think that
it is a reflection of a lot of new, relatively
new forces that teams are dealing with within the NBA.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Meaning what.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Meaning Number one, that we have these super max contracts
that teams are now looking at. It used to be look,
if you had a superstar player, you sign them to
a max contract. You know it might be it might
be pricey, but you never thought about like, if it
doesn't work out, we can always move them. Well, now
the contracts have got and to the point where they
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put a stranglehold, especially with the new salary capitals. They
put a stranglehold on teams in terms of what they
can do. And you've got to choose wisely in terms
of who you give that supermax too. If you are
a team that is not just trying to sell season
tickets and have a headliner to sell corporate sponsorships and
(34:23):
all that. If you really are thinking we want to
win a championship, then you have to think a little
more wisely of who you were investing that money in.
And Niko Harrison looked at it and said, you know,
one of the things that I know is that the
championship teams have one element. All of them have it,
and that is that your best player is your hardest worker.
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And he's looking at Luka Dancis and he's saying, we
already loaded him once, or he's already been loaded up once.
He went to the finals and lost essentially because he
wasn't in shape and couldn't defend, and he came back
the exact same player. Do I want to build around
that player? Do I want to pay him twice as
much as he's making now? And will that motivate him
(35:07):
to be what we need him to be if we
want to win a championship? And Nico ultimately came to
the decision no. Now, why did he keep it quiet?
Why did he only go to the Lakers and discuss it. Well,
he's already been out there that he did at least
take a flyer at can we flip him for Gianni
Sants to compote, But he was looking at can I
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get a player, and I get a player who makes
us more of a championship contender right now? And there
are just very few players that fit that bill. You
could trade Lukadatsch and get an array of picks and
young talent and all that, but they're not in rebuilding
though they're in we want to do what we almost
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did last year. And it just so happened that he
found in Anthony Davis who fits in his estimation and
in mine. I don't know if they get it done,
but I think they are more of a championship caliber
team today than they were Friday. He decided, you know what,
I'm going to go, and I'm going to go. I'm
going to go get this guy, and I'm going to
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have cap flexibility down the line. I can make other decisions,
but right now, for the next two years, I am
going to chase a championship and I'm going to bet
that Luka Doncics never matures enough, never gets to the
point where he is going to be the best player
on a championship team.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, I agree with most of your assessment there. I
think they'll be unbelievable Defensively, I do think they need
to make another move, like are you really going to
have Lively Gafford and Anthony Davis on the same team
with no real point guard? You know?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I think that's the part there.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, and then for the Lakers, this is this is
punting on the season. But it's punting that you probably
have to do. I mean, honestly, I think Nico just
got Rob Polinka an extension, not because it's you know,
the only thing. I thought Nico could have gotten a
little bit more back in return, probably should have got
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more back in return, but they the Lakers can't compete
that way with no defense, essentially no defense.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, no, agreed, they took they took a step back.
I'm really I'm I'm trying to. I'm puzzled by the
odds makers shifting the odds as if the Lakers are
more of a championship team now than they were before
the trade.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I think I think it's a reaction. I think it's
a reaction of fans. Remember, they're not necessarily blame what
they believe. What people will bet On, and people see
Luca in any conversation the best player in the NBA,
joining up with Lebron in the conversations the all time
greatest player, and he's still playing, you know, periodically at
an elite level, and you're like, yeah, it's the Lakers,
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of course, where the reality is like, yeah, you know,
your top three scorers, none of them could guard anybody.
So it's not it's not going anywhere. Is there any
any chance that the Lakers move Lebron?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
No, well, he has a no trade and so it's
they don't have the unilateral ability to move him. I
would think if they did that, they would certainly be
open to it because going to get Luca and not
conferring with Lebron and taking a step back, you know,
everybody's looking at it and saying come out. Nico basically said,
(38:41):
I can't win a championship with with Luka Dantsic robl
Lincoln said the same thing to the Lebron James with
this deal, like we might be fIF the fifth in
the West, we might be a game out of fourth.
We might have just beaten the Knicks in Madison Square
Garden without Anthony Davis. But I don't believe that you,
Lebron are cable of leading a team to a championship anymore.
(39:03):
That's what Rob Palinkas said with this trade. And so
you know what, we're going to turn the page. We're
going to take our franchise back from Lebron in the
Clutch agency. We are now going to be in charge.
And I agree with you. I think that Rob pulled
a rabbit out of the hat because I didn't like
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their fortunes moving forward build trying to build the next
team around Anthony Davis age wise and temperament wise. I
don't think he's he's the guy for that. I do
think Luca be can be that, and at twenty five
has an opportunity to still grow into that. I would
say the one other other element here that I think
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is a relatively new force in the NBA is and
the reason why NKO didn't make this a public sale
of Luka Dancic, which is as soon as you do that,
you get all sorts of other factions involved, You get
Luca's agent saying, now giving you a laundry list of
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these are the only places that will go. Much like
what Jimmy Butler and his agent are doing. You get
other executives, You get the media and fans, who then
are capable of influencing owners, particularly brand new owners who
aren't necessarily NBA savvy. It can make things really messy,
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and in the meantime, you now have to deal with
a superstar player who knows that he's no longer in
your plans. There's always been an element of that, but
in today's world, with twenty four hour sports talk, and
with social media, and with agents believing that they're kingmakers,
I believe all of that has mutated into something that
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is a real issue in terms of getting things done.
And I think that that's why he saw an opportunity
to make a deal that made sense to him, and
rather than try to shop it and get the most
that he could for Luca, he made the best deal
that he could make because he liked that particular deal
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and he was it was. It wasn't so much like
this might be miss miss right, but it was miss
right now and it was good enough.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Apparently the the Sons called the Warriors about Kevin Durant
or there was some conversation about Kevin Durant. Yeah, what,
what's the possibility that Kad gets moved.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know who called whom first.
I know that the Warriors have been looking to add
someone next to Steph and are willing to move and
Andrew Wiggins in a number of pieces in order to
make that happen. In the midst of us texting when
(41:55):
the trade, the ad Luca trade went down, I was
texting with a couple of Scouts executives in GMS as well,
and we were talking about the Warriors, and he was
kind of asking me about, like what I thought their
level of interest in Jimmy Butler, and I said, I
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know that they would like Jimmy. I think that they
think he's a fit. They'd be willing to make a
deal to get him. And Jack Levine there was also
a certain amount of interest there. So but then he
sent me he sent me a list of what he
thought was the priority list. He said, the Warriors are
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waiting to hear from somebody from a player as to
whether he would be open to joining them, and that
they had a preference a priority list, and that list
was Kad, Jimmy Butler, Zach Lavine. And I was a
little bit surprised and not quite on the level of
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Luca ad But I was just as surprised when he
sent that to me because that was the first that
I'd heard of there possibly being a Warriors KD reunion.
It's really up to KD. I think the Warriors would
welcome the opportunity to do that, and maybe KD looks
at it as Hey, it didn't leave on the greatest terms.
(43:24):
If I go back and I helped them win another
something or else, you know, maybe that's the place where
I'm remembered, because right now he's got this kind of
vagabond feel to him. He goes back there and I
don't know that he could help them win another championship,
But if he did, maybe finally KD finds his happy place.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Maybe maybe great stuff as always, Butte, thanks so much
for joining us. Look forward to talking again and appreciate
being our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hey, welcome in. So it's super weak. We got a
whole crew in New Orleans. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Can I I want to do something that's really really,
really really quick. Okay, I am making the cognitive choice
to either call it Nola or New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I understand, I fully understand and respect the fact that
people from Knowlns Okay pronounce it differently. But I won't
be that phony that only correctly pronounces one word in
the Cajun kind of French lexicon. Does that make sense,
(01:22):
like I've never really understood that. Like people will call
a soccer field a pitch, let's field here, and then
all the other words that they use, they use the
Americanized words. Right, it's a telephone, not a telly. They
don't call things a bubbla, you know. So I mean,
I just I'm not gonna do the knowledge and everything
at two fay. I'm just not because I don't. It's
(01:46):
not how I speak. So I'm gonna say New Orleans, right,
isn't that the right?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Or Nola? I don't know. Anyway, it's the site of
the Super Bowl. It should be.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's a lot of discussion points, but we got plenty
of time.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Instead, let's react to.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The news of the moment, the news of the week. Frankly,
it's probably going to be the news maybe of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
This is an NBA year where we've had very very
little drama. The most drama we've had in the NBA,
to be honest, is the old heads that inside the
NBA receiving criticism from current NBA players and some NBA
people that their critical nature of the current style of
(02:34):
play is one of the main reasons more people aren't
watching the NBA. That's actually probably the biggest story up
until the last forty eight hours of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And then this happens.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Luka Doncik is now a member of the LA Lakers,
Anthony Davis is now member of the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And I don't know where you were. I can tell
you where I was. It was in my bed.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
We lost a game on Saturday afternoon in Detroit. We
fly home, I get in bed. I'm going through a
bunch of text messages and sending out some notes and
looking at some emails. And then all of a sudden,
I get an alert that Luke has been traded and
Sham Sharania is reporting it. And of course, because I'm
(03:20):
not a trusting person of Twitter these days, I texted
all of my buddies that have anything to do with
being an insider.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Rick Bucker is going to join us? What in twenty minutes?
I texted Buke? Is this real?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I texted woj even though he's at Saint Bonaventure, is
this real?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Like you name it?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
All the people I thought would know, and everybody had
a delayed like I, I guess it appears to be real.
It appears to be real. Uh, we have some sounds
from the people involved. I'll give you my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think this is an incredibly bold move by Nico Harrison.
Now it may be dumb, but it is bold. But
it is bold, and before I'm critical of it's funny.
I woke up this morning and I was presented with
a very easy kind of quote of the day that
(04:16):
I saw on social media, and its aid Teddy Roosevelt quote.
The only man who never makes mistake is the man
who never does anything. The only man who never makes
mistakes is a man who doesn't do that, a man
who never does anything. Let me try that one more time.
The only man who never makes mistakes is the man
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who never does anything. It's Teddy Roosevelt. He also had
walk quietly and carry a big stick. I like that one.
I've used that at one bunch. But let's get to
his quote of the day. If we're honest with ourselves,
and you're not going to get a more honest voice
in regards to the world of basketball than me. I
believe that offensively, Luka Doncik is the best player in
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the NBA. He's incredible when he's healthy. He can literally
lead a team to the NBA Finals that is not
crazy talented. But when every year you have to worry
about his weight, when he doesn't play defense, when he
covetches on every call, and I'm sure coaches decisions as well,
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it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And then when you have the three hundred and fifty
million dollar contract that he was going to command and
receive in the offseason, because that's what we do in
the NBA. We pay the best players as much money
as we can possibly play them. Whether we like them
or love them or have to have them, or even
if they like or love us, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's what you do.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Again, I would be it would be really hard for
me to trade Luca. I think he's awesome, and I
do think there's not redundancies with Anthony Davis, but Daniel Gaffert,
Derek Lively, like, they already have big, they already have
great rim protection, great defense, and they don't have a
point guard. Kyrie is a great score. He's not a
(06:05):
point guard. But I actually understand what he's trying to do.
Why would I sign up for a supermax contract for
a guy who refuses to stay in shape, refuses to
and refuses to play defense. When Anthony Davis already has
his contract. It is not the Supermax. It's a huge deal,
but he's won a championship and we got him for
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a couple more years, but we don't have to give
him three hundred fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And yes, Anthony Davis been her luck, Luca's been her luck.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
This to me is Nico Harrison saying, Look, it wasn't
going to work with Luca. He wasn't going to play
enough and you know, might not have been healthy enough.
And oh yeah, by the way, he's never going to
be in shape. It's going to be a constant, like
if you give a guy three hundred and.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Chris Carter had this great expression, great expression, and it
goes something like this, money doesn't change you. Money makes
you more of who you are. And Luca likes to
drink beer, likes to drink wine, loves to play basketball.
He's a hooper, he's a bucket, He's an unbelievable player.
But if you give Luka Doncik this upcoming offseason, after
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how he took care of himself up coming into this season,
three hundred and fifty million guaranteed. Why would he ever
change why would he ever change his ways? And you
have people NBA players who are like, man, that's just
a business. This is what happens. This is just a business.
The truth is, this has not been the business. This
(07:45):
has been an NBA that has been run by players
and their agents for the last decade or maybe even
more so. Many of these trades that are made are
dictated a lot like what we're seeing from uh what's
the name Garrett with uh with the with the Cleveland Browns.
He just demanded a trade. Right, I'm not going from here.
(08:05):
I want to go win a Super Bowl. Get me
out of here. That's how the NBA has worked. Guy
doesn't think he can win at the place who drafted him,
gave him everything, built up his career, gave him all
kinds of opportunity. Then they're like, I'm out, they forced
they worry out. Trade me many Anthony Davis, look around
(08:25):
the NBA at so many of these trades.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Most of them are made.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
By the star player and the and or their agent
demanding terms. Get me out of here. Kyrie Irvy, how
many time has he been moved Lebron James. How many
times does he move now there's a free agency whatever.
But the point is that it has the pendulum swung
completely into the players, and so you can say what
(08:50):
you want about the actual deal. I think Nico Harrison
should have gotten a little bit more, should have gotten
another first round pick. I definitely think you should have
got another first round pick. I don't think he got enough.
But it wasn't a deal that was dictated by Luca.
It wasn't Luca refusing to sign an extension, so of
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them finding a way or signing trade or whatever. This
was a no, no, no, this is what we want
to do, and we're going to do it because we
think it's best for our team. Does it feel like
a mistake, Probably right, Probably. You know, Anthony Davis is
(09:33):
an unbelievable player when he's healthy. In the last year
and a half he's been healthy. But betting on that
guy to stay healthy is betting on Luca to play defense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Very unlikely.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
But I do think that this Theodore Roosevelt quote is
a pretty good one. The only man who never makes
mistakes is the man who never does anything, and that
is a shot at so many keyboard Warriors, or maybe
more importantly, at people who suggested he do nothing, sit tight,
(10:08):
you made the finals, get him back. I guarantee that
as talented as Luca is, he's a pain in the backside, right.
It's got to be frustrating to constantly be worrying about
his weight constantly and to have to build a team
four on five because you know your best player will
(10:29):
not play defense. Guys that make these types of bold decisions,
those are the guys that you have to have respect for,
even if it doesn't work. Even if it doesn't work
s Dout Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Here
(10:51):
is Nico Harrison explaining how the trade came to be.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Trades don't happen at the smallest level without stuff getting out.
And Rob and I were able to have, you know,
really intense conversations over the course of you know, three
or four weeks that started out as a coffee that
you know, it was more, hey, would you ever I
don't know, would I let me think of it? You know,
and then it built them on that and you know,
(11:16):
we we kept it between us. We had to, we
had to keep it tight. Jay Kid didn't know about it,
but Jaki and I are aligned and we talk about
archetypes and we talk about the culture that we want
to create. So I know the type of players that
that he likes without actually talking to him, Hey, would
you like you know?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I know that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And JK coached them when they won a championship, So
so I think when you're aligned with your coach like that,
I know the type of players that he likes, and
so I felt good about it. It making sense to
where we're trying to go.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
The other part I like about it is uh and
the Hawks had been this for years where they made
the Eastern Conference Finals once and they were convinced that
they were really close. And now they're like, yeah, we're
not that close, and they started revamping stuff. We've seen
this from lots of NBA teams. Heck, we see it
from NFL teams. They get to the super Bowl and
they think they're really close and they're not, You're not
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that close. You kind of got lighting in the bottle,
you got a nice draw whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Right. The Mavericks got.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
To the NBA Finals and many people think, well, they're
really close, and Jay Kid's like, yeah, that doesn't I've
been around this game the guys that make it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And win consistently play both ends. He ain't it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
When you hear the word culture, you know that they
don't think Luca is part of that culture. And I
get the idea that way you trade him to La
and he's around Lebron who takes care of his body.
He's the around Lebron who doesn't play defense anymore, but
he used to and he tries, so he willed to
try and love like that doesn't that's not how it works.
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If Luca hasn't gotten in shape to this place, then
he made the NBA finals, why would he ever get
in shape? Doesn't just change who you are when you've
been doing it one year for one way for twenty
five years. So I think I have always thought the
world of Luka Doncik, but I don't have to deal
with them on a daily basis. And there's an expression
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that all guys know, all guys know, and I do
think it appeal applies to Luca, and I think it
applies to lots of NBA stars, but to Luca.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Have you ever heard this? One? Jace two?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
For every beautiful woman you see, there's a guy who's
tired of dealing with her.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
They Lee Trevino said that once a clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They don't say tired of dealing with her. I think
a lot of men know the translation. But men do
say that, and they say, for every beautiful woman you see,
there's a guy who's tired of deal with her. Have
you ever heard that expression?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yes, I heard. Lee Trevino said that every poshouse once.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Very possible, very possible.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I think that's what this is. For every great NBA
player there is, there's a GM coach, president, owner who's
just tired of it all. And that's what happened in Dallas.
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We're still reacting to the Luka Doncic trade. I guess
there could be the Anthony Davis for Luca Doncik trade.
Dearon Fox Scott Trade. I will say this that congrats
to mostly to Nico Harrison. You know, the NBA had
been usurped by the NFL on Christmas Day, right, and
(15:36):
even though Lebron's like, this is our holiday, is.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Our Christmas Day?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Like yeah, the numbers say otherwise. Good for the NBA
to kind of strike back. This is supposed to be
the celebration of football week, with the Super Bowl culminating
the week in New Orleans on Sunday, and the NBA
is all anybody's talking about right now. But let's let's
recap our weekend personally professionally with something we do every
Monday called love and Hate.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You love God, I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
These player hays?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
All right here, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Love
and Hate.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
What'd you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from
the weekend? Meyer? You're a lover? What'd you love?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well?
Speaker 7 (16:17):
I loved hanging out with my son at the park
on Saturday. It was a glorious Saturday afternoon. But I
won't I won't make that as my love although it
was number one on my list. We had a great time.
He was from jungle Gym to Jungle Gym. But this
weekend was unique, and it wasn't always like this, Doug,
because of the NFL, because of the PGA Tour and
how things scheduled. The AT and T Pebble Beach pro
(16:40):
Am used to be after the Super Bowl the week after.
In fact, you would have a lot of the big
names from the NFL competing in that pro am event.
And I know I've said this before on the show
that pure golf fans kind of loathed the pro am
because of long rounds, lame interviews, and clubs trying to
(17:00):
be funny but they're not really funny. But you had
such a unique week at Pebble Beach with the weather
and the elements, and then you have Rory McElroy rising
to the occasion. And still, whether you like the layout
at Pebble or not, you still have to say that
it's amazing even better when you're there. But it was
a fun weekend. So this past weekend with the PGA
(17:21):
Tour stopped being at Pebble Beach, I really enjoyed the
action from this weekend and they got a great champion
in the signature event in Rory McElroy.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Hey, Dan, Yes, the one thing I saw from Pebble
Beach this weekend was a golfer pro orm. I don't
know who it was, took out one of the marshals.
Who was that? And how is the volunteer doing? So?
Speaker 7 (17:45):
I don't know how the volunteer is doing. There was
no one around him and it was on Shane Lowry's
tea shot and his was You could say it was
a fade, but it really did look like it was
a slice. And there was right nobody within twenty yards
of the guy and Doug, I don't know you saw
it or not. The guy could have stepped one step
away either front, back, left or right. It would not
(18:08):
have been hit by the flying object, but he stood still,
not knowing that it was on its way, and it
nailed him. It was yeah, it was not good. Oh
that's rough, dangerous. I saw another one where a guy
had the ball. It landed in his arm as he
was like holding his phone, and so they had to wait.
(18:29):
So the guy's holding his arm against his body with
the ball stuck there, and the guy who hit it
is stup. Francis used to head up the USGA. And yeah,
so as a as a spectator, you're not supposed to move.
You're not supposed to move from your spot because then
you can get the free drop from the from the
player would get the free drop. But you get that
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when you have amateurs on the course. Happens. I love
the golf this weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Jasetu, what you got?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You kind of stole my thunder on this, But I
will from my angle this Luca trade for someone who's
in charge of generating content for my career. This was
really the first time that we've talked about the NBA
this season where the conversation wasn't what's wrong with the
(19:18):
NBA Like up until now, literally eighty percent of the
content is why is nobody watching, Why is nobody interesting?
What rules need to be changed? Adam Silver has been
doing interviews everywhere saying proposal to change maybe the forty
eight to forty minutes. So I think, I guess it's
(19:38):
nice that we could actually talk about substance. Still, nothing
really on the court. This is all kind of off
the court stuff and how it went down and everything.
But I guess I love the fact that this kind
of yeah, this says injected some interesting content for the
NBA this week.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Sam My Love of the Weekend had to love the
scene in Iowa City on Sunday where Iowa was hosting
the Iowa women were hosting number four USC, and of
course the main attraction was not just the game. The
main attraction was really Caitlyn Clark coming back to town
to have her number twenty two and jersey put up
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the number twenty two retired and the jersey put up
in the rafters. I did check on this. The number
twenty two is only retired on the women's side, so
I guess that you know, if a male Iowa basketball
player wanted to wear twenty two in the future, he could.
That's all well and good, so Kaitlyn Clark was back
in town. David Letterman was in the crowd. He he
loves the Indiana fever. He loves watching Kaitlyn Clark. Lisa
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Bluter was their former coach to take on the number
four Trojans who have been wiped had been up until
that point wiping the floor with people, especially the lesser
than teams in the Big Ten like Perdue and Rutgers,
beating him anywhere from you know, fifty point beat downs,
but not on Sunday. Iowa came in a twelve and
a half point underdog in that game and somehow pulled
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out the victory, winning seventy six sixty nine, only USC's
second loss of the season. The other one before that
was to Notre Dame was a top three team. So
after the game, after, you know, I fully expected Iowa
to just get blown out in this game. They had
been struggling this season. They had lost five straight up
until a now three game winning streak. But I did
(21:27):
not expect Iowa to compete in this game. But they did,
and they pulled out the victory, and so it was
even more warm and fuzzy bubbles after the game for
the retirement ceremony. Absolutely killer crushing day in Iowa City
at Carver Hackey Arena felt like the old times when
she was still wearing twenty two in the black and
gold for Iowa. So that was my love, just the
absolute showcase of women's college basketball and honoring Kitlyn Clark
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in her stellar four years in Iowa City.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Sam Sam missed the best part?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
What did I miss there?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
How about Lindsay Gottlie keeping her Trojans on the bench
to watch it.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
After a loss? No relation, doug out, how about that?
That is huge, that's classy.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, Lindsay's awesome.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
You want to take credit for her because her last
names gotlieb done well.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Lindsay and I are friends, and she's really good friends
with my brother. They were at CAL at the same time,
and we always say that she's my sister by different parents. Anyway,
she's a fabulous coach obviously UCSB col then she went
to the NBA as b Line's assistant, and now she's
back at USC doing a great, great job.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Thank you for bringing that up, Dan. That is a
wonderful thing.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I forgot to mention that a lot of teams wouldn't
do that, and that is an incredibly classy thing to do,
especially taking a loss. If they had one by thirty,
that'd be one thing. But they're taking a loss and
they sat to honor King and Clark. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I would. I'm gonna do college basketball as well.
Not my group.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We lost Saturday, but we have these charters that we
get to fly home on and we took two charters home,
so most of the coaches flew home the second one,
so we had like two and a half hour wait,
and I got to watch the Baylor comeback. Baylor was
(23:10):
down in twenty one I think or nineteen the half
to Kansas, came back and won by like fifteen. It's
good to see that happen to somebody else, even though
it was Bill self. And then we watched the start
of the Duke game, who just blew the doors.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Off of North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And again, when you're in the heart of it and
you're in the thick of it and you're struggling and
your team's not healthy and you can't make a shot
when you need to make a shot, et cetera, you're
just like, oh, everything stinks, everything's bad. And then you
watch college basketball like you know this is still awesome,
still awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Duke is amazing in their talent.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I thought Baylor's come back and the new Faral Center
was incredible. And then you kind of pull yourself out
of your own personal gloom and doom and you go,
you know what, want to be a part of this
as a coach, and now I am so, and you
know we look, our season is a four game season.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
We could win four, We could actually play in the
NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So I loved watching college basketball on Sunday and watching
the best of the best and taking that energy from
those two buildings to try and go, that's all that
is possible, all that is out in front of your life,
and stop feeling sorry for yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
So I really like that.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I got a question about your game, Doug. I was
watching it and it was the We got the ESPN
Plus feed with the Detroit announcer, so maybe they were
a little biased with this. So at the very very end,
I think there was like seven seconds left their ball
and you chose to call a time out. I think
your team was down fourteen or whatever, and the announcer
(24:45):
at the time was like, ooh, the Detroit head coach
isn't gonna like that one? Was that a little games
one ship there? Or why do you call that time out?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Do you want the real reason or do you want
the reason that I would say in.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
The media, What's I want the real one? Huh?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The reason I'd say in the media is, Hey, we're competing,
no matter what. Get a bucket, call a time out,
get in the press or whatever. The real reason was,
I don't feel like we have gotten I've never walked
away from a game like I thought we got the
good end the officiating. I haven't always thought it was
(25:20):
badder against us, and I didn't think it was the
main cause for us losing to Detroit. But I thought
there were a couple of calls where it wasn't just
that the calls didn't go our way. It was the
way in which one of the officials refused to actually
even discuss it or act like, hey, you might have
(25:42):
missed it. And so I may have made a semi
circle a little bit wider to stand on the court
to make sure that the official in question knew that, Hey,
you're gonna have to stay out here until I'm getting
ready to go home.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
That's why I thought you.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Nothing to do with Mark.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
They did a good job that That program was absolutely
dead in the water last year and they've done a
good job. Congrats to them winning. Nothing to do with
gamesmanship with them. Uh okay, let's get to hate. Do
you guys like that though? By the way, rookie coach
(26:21):
of a solid VET move.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yes, I thought the announcers were obviously their local from
the truit, But I actually I thought they did a
good job on.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I will tell them they did a very good job.
You know why I didn't know they did a good job.
They actually called me and we've played every game has
been on ESPN Plus and they are the Oakland sideline
reporter called me. But like I just I did games
for years. I can't believe that's the first one. Not
Green Bay. Our group calls me all the time. That
(26:50):
has actually that and our first game, our Providence game,
was on Fox. Other than that, all these other guys
they just go and go blind when like I can
give you the answers to the test. I know how
broadcasting actually works. But whatever, what Jay for the weekend, Jase.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Tuo, it kind of hits home where you're at and
I know you have our relationship with Packers president Mark Murphy,
and this isn't necessarily a shot at him, but he
did say in a online piece over the weekend that
he's not a fan of the tush push. He says
there's no skill involved, and it's almost an automatic first
down on plays at are yard or less that ridiculous
(27:28):
set of circumstances where the Commanders were jumping off sides,
and he goes on to say that they hope that
they ban it. I've never quite understood the whole thing
of one team does something really good, so it should
be banned. It's like the other thirty plus teams whatever
have a chance to do it themselves. I just don't
understand what the reason would be for the NFL to
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ban it, other than nobody could stop it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
JASEU, I mean, I was Sam, I have a couple
of Can I share a couple of three different no?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
No? From college? I need just one, just one.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Well, I had a lot of hates from this weekend
in college basketball, but I'll just go with the one
that's closest or most recent. That would be the already
struggling Iowa Hawkeyes. The Iowa men losing their center Owen
Freeman to finger surgery. He will be out the rest
of the season after having surgery on his hand.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Oh he stole my.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Sorry, Dan, that's very specifically you want to talk about
Iowa player.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Iowa was already struggling. They had lost four of five.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Before this news was announced, and Owen Freeman was their
most consistent. He was a top scorer and top rebounder.
So now he's out the rest of the season. This
just this season feels like it's a rap. If the
if the Iowa women were kind of working their stock
back up now winning three in a row after the
upset of USC, iowas lost four of five and they're
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on the road at number or they're taking on number
seven per Due at home and then number twenty one
Wisconsin at home. That does not bode well for the
Ibo men. Maybe they can shock me, but I just
hate the fact that Owen Freeman, their center, is out,
and that's a big loss for Iowa. So kind of
made me a little a little sad.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
All right, Dan, do you have time to recover because
I know that was yours.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I do have something not as
not as important as that was, but I'll tell you,
I will piggyback on what a lot of people felt
on Saturday that we hated that college game Day decided,
oh let's go to Durham for Duke North Carolina when
coach Cal returned to RUP, and what a scene it was.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
That was weird. That's a weird decisions.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
So weird.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
But what an atmosphere and what a game. I mean,
Arkansas I.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Loved, I loved it. I mean Coach Cal going in
there and I loved it. Yeah, it was amazing, totally.
It was a great atmosphere. Forty minutes.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
I mean, Arkansas shot the ball better than the they
think they have all season. But you also have guys
on that team that had a bone to pick, and
I think people forgot about that, that it wasn't just
about Cal and that was just a great college basketball game.
And I know you're not going to get that every
night because of the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It was a great Saturday. But that was amazing.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Yeah, amazing, really really great time. And I usually don't
I wanted to make it a love But the way
we can hate it is that ESPN didn't even recognize
it as the game of the weekend. And went with
chalk with Duke in North Carolina, and there was a
chalk outline of North Carolina left at Cameron because they
got guilt.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There was they got smoked. I hate losing. I hate losing.
I hate losing, but I'm not gonna let dissuay me
get me off my course. I hate losing. And that's
love and hate.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
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Speaker 1 (31:04):
Hey, welcome to its super Bowl Week here the Doug
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Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's super Bowl Week.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And you know usually super Bowl Week, as we talked
about in the open, is reserved for nonsensical football talk
previewing a game. Hey, give me a score or we
have and we'll have this rest of the week. Big
name guest after big name guest at a big name
guest that talks a little football and then pitches a product.
But Rob Polinka and Nico Harrison gave us this gift
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as Rob blink likes to say from above from Hannah right,
and it's Luca is now a Laker and Ad is
now a Maverick. Let's get to Rick Buker, who I
told you guys in the open. I texted Buke right
when it came down, because Buke is he knows way
more than he lets he tweets about whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And I was like, is this real.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It took you, I don't know, somewhere in the neighborhood
of two minutes to go.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yes, it appears to be.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
So let's just start at the time when you saw it.
When I texted you. What was your reaction when you
first saw the deal.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
When I first saw the deal, I thought I didn't
I couldn't believe it. I didn't believe it. I thought
that whoever put it out had had their account hacked,
and that someone had just decided to pull a prank.
And then you texted me, and and I saw that like,
(32:39):
it wasn't being pulled back, no one was. It wasn't
out on any any sites, but it also wasn't being
announced as this is wrong. And so then I, you know,
texted someone who I knew would know if it was
actually happening. And that's then I texted you and said confirmed,
(32:59):
and and then I started just kind of, you know,
going talking to people around the league, and no one
had saw at No one saw it coming. It really
was kept under wraps. And the more I dug into it,
the more I thought that this is really a reflection
of where the NBA is right now. A lot of
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people are shocked by how it came down and the
deal and all of that, but I really think that
it is a reflection of a lot of new, relatively
new forces that teams are dealing with within the NBA.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Meaning what.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Meaning Number one, that we have these super max contracts
that teams are now looking at. It used to be look,
if you had a superstar player, you sign them to
a max contract. You know it might be it might
be pricey, but you never thought about like, if it
doesn't work out, we can always move them. Well, now
the contracts have got and to the point where they
(34:02):
put a stranglehold, especially with the new salary capitals. They
put a stranglehold on teams in terms of what they
can do. And you've got to choose wisely in terms
of who you give that supermax too. If you are
a team that is not just trying to sell season
tickets and have a headliner to sell corporate sponsorships and
(34:23):
all that. If you really are thinking we want to
win a championship, then you have to think a little
more wisely of who you were investing that money in.
And Niko Harrison looked at it and said, you know,
one of the things that I know is that the
championship teams have one element. All of them have it,
and that is that your best player is your hardest worker.
(34:46):
And he's looking at Luka Dancis and he's saying, we
already loaded him once, or he's already been loaded up once.
He went to the finals and lost essentially because he
wasn't in shape and couldn't defend, and he came back
the exact same player. Do I want to build around
that player? Do I want to pay him twice as
much as he's making now? And will that motivate him
(35:07):
to be what we need him to be if we
want to win a championship? And Nico ultimately came to
the decision no. Now, why did he keep it quiet?
Why did he only go to the Lakers and discuss it. Well,
he's already been out there that he did at least
take a flyer at can we flip him for Gianni
Sants to compote, But he was looking at can I
(35:28):
get a player, and I get a player who makes
us more of a championship contender right now? And there
are just very few players that fit that bill. You
could trade Lukadatsch and get an array of picks and
young talent and all that, but they're not in rebuilding
though they're in we want to do what we almost
(35:48):
did last year. And it just so happened that he
found in Anthony Davis who fits in his estimation and
in mine. I don't know if they get it done,
but I think they are more of a championship caliber
team today than they were Friday. He decided, you know what,
I'm going to go, and I'm going to go. I'm
going to go get this guy, and I'm going to
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have cap flexibility down the line. I can make other decisions,
but right now, for the next two years, I am
going to chase a championship and I'm going to bet
that Luka Doncics never matures enough, never gets to the
point where he is going to be the best player
on a championship team.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, I agree with most of your assessment there. I
think they'll be unbelievable Defensively, I do think they need
to make another move, like are you really going to
have Lively Gafford and Anthony Davis on the same team
with no real point guard? You know?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I think that's the part there.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, and then for the Lakers, this is this is
punting on the season. But it's punting that you probably
have to do. I mean, honestly, I think Nico just
got Rob Polinka an extension, not because it's you know,
the only thing. I thought Nico could have gotten a
little bit more back in return, probably should have got
(37:13):
more back in return, but they the Lakers can't compete
that way with no defense, essentially no defense.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, no, agreed, they took they took a step back.
I'm really I'm I'm trying to. I'm puzzled by the
odds makers shifting the odds as if the Lakers are
more of a championship team now than they were before
the trade.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I think I think it's a reaction. I think it's
a reaction of fans. Remember, they're not necessarily blame what
they believe. What people will bet On, and people see
Luca in any conversation the best player in the NBA,
joining up with Lebron in the conversations the all time
greatest player, and he's still playing, you know, periodically at
an elite level, and you're like, yeah, it's the Lakers,
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of course, where the reality is like, yeah, you know,
your top three scorers, none of them could guard anybody.
So it's not it's not going anywhere. Is there any
any chance that the Lakers move Lebron?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
No, well, he has a no trade and so it's
they don't have the unilateral ability to move him. I
would think if they did that, they would certainly be
open to it because going to get Luca and not
conferring with Lebron and taking a step back, you know,
everybody's looking at it and saying come out. Nico basically said,
(38:41):
I can't win a championship with with Luka Dantsic robl
Lincoln said the same thing to the Lebron James with
this deal, like we might be fIF the fifth in
the West, we might be a game out of fourth.
We might have just beaten the Knicks in Madison Square
Garden without Anthony Davis. But I don't believe that you,
Lebron are cable of leading a team to a championship anymore.
(39:03):
That's what Rob Palinkas said with this trade. And so
you know what, we're going to turn the page. We're
going to take our franchise back from Lebron in the
Clutch agency. We are now going to be in charge.
And I agree with you. I think that Rob pulled
a rabbit out of the hat because I didn't like
(39:24):
their fortunes moving forward build trying to build the next
team around Anthony Davis age wise and temperament wise. I
don't think he's he's the guy for that. I do
think Luca be can be that, and at twenty five
has an opportunity to still grow into that. I would
say the one other other element here that I think
(39:45):
is a relatively new force in the NBA is and
the reason why NKO didn't make this a public sale
of Luka Dancic, which is as soon as you do that,
you get all sorts of other factions involved, You get
Luca's agent saying, now giving you a laundry list of
(40:07):
these are the only places that will go. Much like
what Jimmy Butler and his agent are doing. You get
other executives, You get the media and fans, who then
are capable of influencing owners, particularly brand new owners who
aren't necessarily NBA savvy. It can make things really messy,
(40:28):
and in the meantime, you now have to deal with
a superstar player who knows that he's no longer in
your plans. There's always been an element of that, but
in today's world, with twenty four hour sports talk, and
with social media, and with agents believing that they're kingmakers,
I believe all of that has mutated into something that
(40:51):
is a real issue in terms of getting things done.
And I think that that's why he saw an opportunity
to make a deal that made sense to him, and
rather than try to shop it and get the most
that he could for Luca, he made the best deal
that he could make because he liked that particular deal
(41:14):
and he was it was. It wasn't so much like
this might be miss miss right, but it was miss
right now and it was good enough.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Apparently the the Sons called the Warriors about Kevin Durant
or there was some conversation about Kevin Durant. Yeah, what,
what's the possibility that Kad gets moved.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know who called whom first.
I know that the Warriors have been looking to add
someone next to Steph and are willing to move and
Andrew Wiggins in a number of pieces in order to
make that happen. In the midst of us texting when
(41:55):
the trade, the ad Luca trade went down, I was
texting with a couple of Scouts executives in GMS as well,
and we were talking about the Warriors, and he was
kind of asking me about, like what I thought their
level of interest in Jimmy Butler, and I said, I
(42:16):
know that they would like Jimmy. I think that they
think he's a fit. They'd be willing to make a
deal to get him. And Jack Levine there was also
a certain amount of interest there. So but then he
sent me he sent me a list of what he
thought was the priority list. He said, the Warriors are
(42:38):
waiting to hear from somebody from a player as to
whether he would be open to joining them, and that
they had a preference a priority list, and that list
was Kad, Jimmy Butler, Zach Lavine. And I was a
little bit surprised and not quite on the level of
(43:01):
Luca ad But I was just as surprised when he
sent that to me because that was the first that
I'd heard of there possibly being a Warriors KD reunion.
It's really up to KD. I think the Warriors would
welcome the opportunity to do that, and maybe KD looks
at it as Hey, it didn't leave on the greatest terms.
(43:24):
If I go back and I helped them win another
something or else, you know, maybe that's the place where
I'm remembered, because right now he's got this kind of
vagabond feel to him. He goes back there and I
don't know that he could help them win another championship,
But if he did, maybe finally KD finds his happy place.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Maybe maybe great stuff as always, Butte, thanks so much
for joining us. Look forward to talking again and appreciate
being our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
You got It.
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