February 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug Gottlieb is live on Media Row in New Orleans ahead of the Big Game! Doug gives his thoughts on the trade rumors linking Kevin Durant to his former Golden State Warriors. Former Commanders HC Ron Rivera joins Doug to discuss his new role at his alma mater Cal. Lions RB David Montgomery joins Doug to reflect on the Lions' impressive season. Plus, FOX NFL Insider Jay Glazer joins Doug to break down whether or not we will hear about the future of Aaron Rodgers prior to Sunday.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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dot com studios. Here at Radio Row. It's the side
of the Super Bowl and a man who has coached
in this very big game. It was just announced as
accepted a job at his alma monitor at Cal. Essentially
the we'll get to the actual term of it, because
again at Cal, it's never as easy as just this
is call them the gentle manager. They had to come
up with a bunch of different stuff. But basically he's
going to kind of oversee parts of the football program,
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a position that many in the college game have now accepted.
Ron Rivera is our guest here on the Doug Gotlip Show. Coach,
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm doing well, Doug, I really am.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
How are you good? So tell me about the position
at Cal?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Right well, what we're trying to do is is and
we're still working on the detail of it, as you said,
but it really is somebody that's gonna work with a
football program. It's gonna work on every facet as much
as we can. Working with the coaching staff, trying to
help the head coach, trying to help the head coach
get resources, trying to help coach get players, work with
the university intercollegiate department, trying to help fundraising, help the
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university fundraise itself. So there's gonna be a little bit
more to it, I believe. I'm really excited about it.
Had an opportunity to talk with the chancellor about this.
It's a neat opportunity. It's a unique opportunity, and I'm
excited because it's an opportunity for me to give back
to the university as a whole.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, it's and Cal obviously a great place, number one
public institution in America and a place I know that
there's something different when it's your school. You know when
it's your school, there's some you've coached in this game,
when you coach in this game, you had an incredible defense.
But so the dever Broncos. Yes, right, they just and
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you just couldn't crack that code. If you could go
back and change one thing about your prep, what would
it be, you know?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
In all honesty, to me, it really wasn't about the
prep more than it It was about the circumstances. There
was there was one play I think that really kind
of defined it, and it was the first time we
had the balls in offense and there was a pass
play that in today's game, it's one of those things
that it could have gone either direction, and because of
certain elements, it was called against us, and that one
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play I really do think was a little bit of
the difference. It was something that that put us behind. No, No,
it was it was the past completion incompletion. Cam had
thrown a ball that was right there on the cusp
of whether it was complete or not. It was ruled
initially a completion, then it was overruled as an incompletion,
so then it was challenge, and the challenge was, well,
not enough evidence to change it back. Well, okay, if
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there's not enough evidence to change it back, then why
was it gone from completion and incompletion?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know what I'm saying. So it's one of those
things you could argue and it's a little bit of
sour grapes on my apartment.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
No, that's the truth that matter because from my perspective,
and then I promise you from their perspective.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But at the end of the.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Day, when those things happen, those things do make impacts,
They do change certain things, and that was one of
the things that was an impactful play.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
There's there's no question. I mean, like, look, I'm coaching
college basketball. We're on a losing streak. It's not great.
And I can point to in so many of these games,
one play, one call where if it goes a different way,
I don't know that the outcome is gonna be different,
but there's a great chance, right. Momentum is a real thing,
and it also kind of screws up. You know, you
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have your scripted plays, and when one doesn't go your way, suddenly, now, okay,
what do we do? What do we do with the
with the with the script? Is it better to have
it's the old? Is it better to have loved and
lost and never loved at all? Like having gone to
the Super Bowl but not wonted? Is that better than
not having gone to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Oh, I agree, it doesn't matter going to the Super
Bowls and experience in itself. Okay, And only so many
people can say I've been to a super Bowl. Only
so many people can say I won a super Bowl.
I'm fortunately I can say I've won one, and I've lost.
I've lost too, but I've been there, and it's an
amazing experience.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's everything that we work for as players and as coaches.
I mean, when you get there, you're at the peak. Okay,
you're at the top. But to stand on the very pinnacle,
you've got to win it. So I've been there and
and and I've done both and and to me, it's
the reason why if you get into this game for
any other reason than going and winning the Super Bowl,
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then you shouldn't be in this league.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I mean, okay, so I got to ask you. Cam
Newton just said, I know, he just said, I know,
you know if you give back your MVP to win
a Super Bowl. He's like, nah, you know, I can,
I can?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I can?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I can?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I get can? I take a guess you're thinking to yourself,
but you can't say welcome to my world. This was
this was what I was managing.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, the thing about Cam two and let's don't forget
he's been to the peak and the pinnacle of college football.
He's won the Heisman, and he won a national championship.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I get it. But we're talking about I.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Know in the NFL he's won the MVP. He hasn't
won that.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
So and tell you win it.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You don't know what it's about.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, that's fair. That's what all said that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I'll be politically correct.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay. The other part that's interesting is you were known
and it was really I felt like that season and
maybe a little bit later you got the nickname of
riverboat Run. But the riverboat run at first, and again,
tell me if I'm wrong, you're a fair was because
you were generally conservative in nature, right, you were. You
were a punt anytime on fourth down guy. You were
very very conservative, defensive minded and by the way, that
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team was one of the best defenses that probably doesn't
get credit, right, Sean McDermott built it for you. That
was a great defense. But you were conservative. And then
all of a sudden you started going for it a
little bit and you got the kind of almost sarcastic
nickname which you then e.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
B, Yeah, it's this tremendous story.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Really, what happened was after my first two seasons in
the NFL as a head coach, I had this three
and thirteen record of losing games by six, seven points
or less. And after each year I would sit down
with the previous owner, Jerry Richards, and we would go
through the year and talk about different things. When we
finish up our discussion, I turned him. I says, you know,
I need a mentor. I need somebody to talk with
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and understand some things and helped me through some situations.
He kind of chuckles a little bit and he goes,
I want you to look at this, and he slides
this piece of paper across to me and on the
piece of paper John Madden and his phone number. He goes,
you and I are on the same page. I want
you to call coach. He's expecting your call. I've already
talked to him about you talking to him.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So I get done. The first thing I did. I
called him right away. We had this great twenty minute conversation.
He says, Hey, come on out to Pleasanton, California, come
to my office. Let's sit down, let's talk football. So
I do I make this plan. I fly out there.
We sit down, we start talking. I previously that. He
told me, go back, look at those games that you lost,
those thirteen games, and see if there's something you could
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have done differently. Well, in my mind it's like, hey,
do a report.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I go back. I watched those thirteen games. I
write these notes up.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I do this, I type it all up and make
this twenty page report from my fly out there fled
in California's to Red Bear Ventures, go to his office.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We sit down.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We start talking and say, oh, here, I brought this
report you wanted me to do.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And what report?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I said, well, talking about the thirteen games I had lost.
He looks at me and goes, that's not for me,
that's for you.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What did you learn?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I said, well, like this one here, I punted when
I think we had an opportunity to possibly go for it,
and then on this one I took the field goal
to go up by six, and then they score a
touchdown and beat us by by one. He said, yeah,
and each one knows what could you have done? I said, well,
I could have probably gone for it. He said, exactly it.
I'f fron you're being conservative for what reason. I said,
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I'm going by the book. He said, what book? There
is no book. And it made me realize when he
said that what I was doing was what was conservative,
what was safe. I wouldn't get criticized if it went
the other way, and made me realize that.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Shoot.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So fast forward. Now we're in twenty thirteen. We're playing
a game. We're playing the Giants at home. We get
to our first drive, it's fourth down at midfield.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I go for it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
We get the first down. We continue on the drive,
get to the goal line. It's fourth in the goal.
Go for it, punch it in for a touchdown. We
score again. We scored.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
We beat him pretty good. We shut him.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I think we wont like thirty three to nothing or
something like that. The next week, I do it in Minnesota.
First series of go forward to fourth down, We get it,
get down to the goal line, fourth and three. We
ran a shovel pass touchdown, so we win the game.
After the game, somebody in the media is interviewing fans, Hey,
what do you think.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh, it's great coach being aggressively. It's great.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Get to this one, gentlemen, So what'd you think of
coach Vera going for it before down. He goes, well,
I'll tell you what, Oh, coach Rivera out there like
a riverboat gambler, that old riverboat ron.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now you're splitting aces at the casino. I know your
dad was in the Army. Yes, he was a NOMA
as well.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is that what drew you to USAA.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, you know the fact that my dad served thirty
two years in the United States Army, traveling all over
the world with him. You know, we'd gone to Germany,
we'd gone to Panama, we were all over the United States.
Our home base was Ford or California. And so being
part of a military family and understanding exactly what that
commitment of sacrifice is drove me to want to support
the military every opportunity I got. Well, then I get
a little bit of a platform because the usaas Salute
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the Service. So from there we do many things that
we can show our support. And the great part was
USA was behind us the whole way. So fast forward
a couple of years, I get an opportunity, I win
the USA Salute the Service Award. Very proud moment for me,
but a great moment for my dad. I mean, he
was very proud of the whole award, and so I've
joined with them the last few years in support of it.
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And the real neat thing is this year's a winner
is George Kittle from the forty nine Ers, a guy
that does the same thing. He supports so many different
efforts throughout, but he also supports the military in a
big way, and USA has recognized him as this year's
Salute the Service Award winner.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, Coach Rivera, I'm sure Cal is so proud to
have you back all the things you stand for as well.
Go ahead, and a good one.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Were you the one that's really the commanders?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
He was asking, Well, you're the one that suggested the commanders.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The command No, are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean, if I could, I would, if I would
have stuck with with with the original name.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I grew up a fan.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yes, I believed in it, and and I I know
it's hard for people to understand, but you know, to me,
it's it's it's a traditional thing and and and we're
not going to name our our sports teams after derogatory name. Sure,
And that's that was always kind of my stance. But
I understood the social issue, the social pressures which was very,
very unfair. I think the thing that people have to
understand too as well is that you know when when
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when you do things and you make decisions, especially decision
like that, you have to go out and you've got
to really research it. Well, there was a tremendous amount
of research done. I mean, they they they they brought
in former players, you know, they brought in fans, They
brought in focus groups, and they they they put all
these names out to it. And that's how it was decided.
It wasn't decided by me. It was decided by focus groups,
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alumni and fans.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
I remember that there was a video where they like
blurred out your lips, so it was like Jason Wright
showed it to you.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I think a bunch of different nicknames.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, yeah, and and And the truth matter is at
that point what was decided was because this is the
nation's capital, because of where we were. Okay, a name
befitting leadership was probably what we were looking for because
this is the nation's capital, this is this is the
base of all the power in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's worth now, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It is. Well, coach, listen, enjoy back in Berkeley. More
things changed when they stay the same there, it's still
berserkly And thanks so much for being our guests.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now, I appreciate the advice you gave me to Doug,
I really do. I know you've been through it as
a coach and understanding what's been going on in the
in the NCAA.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I have been going through the the the losses, and
I have I have a mentor in the great Dick Bennett.
Oh wow, who who who helps me sort through all
these things as well. So I'm actually learning from you
as we speak. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Thank you very much, Doug.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every weekday three to five
Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your
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on Fox Sports Radio. And I'm actually super psyched about
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talking with David Montgomery, running back obviously Detroit Lions, who
joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Not just
because of the Lions and that story and what happens now.
But also I mean his rise to superstardom at Iowa
State because as a Big Twelve guy, remember when Iowa
State was at the bottom of the league. He was
part of what's been built there with Matt Campbell and
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now one of the dominant teams in the Big Twelve.
But you're also joining us on behalf of scouting America.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Why yeah, I mean I think ultimately, you know, you
get lost in between the attributes and the things I've
done on the field, and people don't really know a
much that much about like scouting and how much it's
kind of shaped who I am today. So yeah, I'm
just here to kind of like pay homage and you know,
shed more light on something that helped, you know, create
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who I am to this day.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But you grew up like in the heart in Ohio,
in the football country, right were you under underrecruited?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
I like to say so, yeah, very underly recruited. Didn't
have a bunch of offers, so why the world may
never know, but it worked out, so I don't complain any.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
When you got to Iowa State, what were your expectations.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
To be the best version of myself that I could
be every day and prove myself right and don't worry
about proving anybody else wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
How long did it take before it hit before you
like where? I mean, obviously you had the self confidence
that you knew ultimately, but where everyone around you was like, oh,
he's a dude.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
The people who really do already really but I don't know,
I really don't care, honestly, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
What what was it like to take Iowa State to
heights that they hadn't really experienced.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
It definitely wasn't something that was done single handedly. You know,
it was a bunch of guys who committed the same
amount or if more amount of time to try to
change the place's culture. And you know, because Kimmel did
a great job in bringing the right guys in. You
know a lot of people like to go for like
the five stars, all the guys that got the crazy numbers,
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but they forget about like the ballplayer, Like, can you
bring in people who are willing to be selfless enough
to do whatever it takes to win for each other?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
And I think when you're able.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
To build a culture around that, and you know, the
people there and that the players that actually believe in it,
I think you can do something special.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
So I was just happy to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
What was you talk about culture and what it was
built there? What was so unique about the Lions in
comparison to other previous NFL seasons you'd.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Happen, Yeah, seasons are team either.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Uh. You know, I tell people to this day, you know,
I love Chicago and I love I'm so appreciative of
you know, them taking a chance on a kid who
didn't they no one really believed in. But I think
Detroit's like I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio. Like I'm from a
pretty a pretty violent area and a place that you
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know is proceived to just create and bring negativity. But
when I get to Detroit, it's a it's a blue
collar place. You know, it just felt like it fit
like a glove. Someone would say, it's a blue collar
place that people don't really know much about. It's a
lot of characters, it's a lot of pozazed there's a
lot of stuff there that people don't understand that if
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you just are there, it's not as bad as you
think it is. It's a place who loves to love people,
you know, So, yeah, it just it just feels different.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
What what about Dan Campbell makes you guys play at
such a high level. I guess it would say for him,
but it feels like with him, like what what is
it about him on a day to day basis that
you guys embrace.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Well, I could speak for myself personally, you know, Coach
Campbell when I when I first had a conversation with him,
and I talked to him when I first got to Detroit,
I let him know like, look, I'm nowhere close to
where I can be and where I will be, but
I wanted to let him know like I appreciate him
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looking at me and being able to think that I
can help this team. And after he said after I
said that, he looked at me right in my face
and he said the things that you don't know I know,
and he was basically just talking about my potential and
what I could be.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
He he just was like.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Reassured me that he knew exactly who I was going
to be without even like being knowing who I was yet. Yeah,
So he's just one of them people. He's a gritty dude.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You know. He wants football players. He don't.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
He don't want to look forty times and he don't
want that because that could run the culture.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
He wants ball players.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What what's that like to be the best team in
the NFC. And then it's over. So it feels like
so quickly.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah, I mean two years in a row, we kind
of we felt short. This year was like a more
unfortunate way because that wasn't our brand of ball that
we played. We didn't come out like we usually come out.
But yeah, it definitely sucks, you know, being so close
with being so far in the same you know, aspect,
and you see two other teams playing in the ball.
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He be like, that's supposed to be us, but that's everybody, right, So.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, but last year you're literally, yeah, I don't want
to say have the game, but you got to lead
in San Francisco and then nego sir pol And then
this year, everybody's got to come through Detroit, right, and
and you know, you get behind and turning football over
a little bit, and then it's like now it's all
of a sudden kind of playing catch up. Like you said,
you get out of yourself for sure.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
You know it's a place that Detroit it's not a
place that's used to winning, not place of used to
you know, handling like the success part of things.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
But it's one thing to lose and to allow that
to like eat you.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
But it's another thing to lose and know that it
sounds crazy to lose and to know like you're gonna
be way better than what you were.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yes, like we have No, I ain't like we lost.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
It sucked, it hurt, but like I know who I am,
and I know what I'm finna do, and I know
those other guys in the locker room, and I know
who coach Campbell is.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
So we gonna be in the super Bowl and we're
gonna win it. So it's not right now.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
How challenging will be with new coordinators.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Not challenging at all.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
The players make the place, the culture. It's a player
run team. You know, who's gonna be just fine. As
long as we got coach Cambell at the top and
that's where we need to be, will be fine.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
No player led teams are the best led teams. You know,
I'm a college I'm a college head, a basketball coach,
and it's like you can call all the players you want.
It doesn't matter it's about those guys figure it out
right fair enough.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
That's exactly what it's about.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
When you watch these two teams. Who do you have
Let's let's start with Saquon. Yeah, pro to pro. What
do you admire about Saquon?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I think everything you know Quon, I don't think he
really had an opportunity to show like all.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
His abilities when he was in New York.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
But like a run from a running back to a
running back, Like you see him doing some of the
things that he does, It's like it's not surprising at all, just.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Because of who he is and how he works.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Bro, he jumped over to do that's not surprising. That's
not no, not coming from him. He's like he's a
freaking nature. But yeah, do.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You ever watch Pacheco run Yo man? Slow down like
he's he runs like you're holding the turbo button down?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Nah, for sure. He just run like he run like
he'd have been through a lot in his life.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yes, Yeah, Like Le'Veon Bell used to come up and
like survey and try and pick apart the whole, and
he's the opposite. He's just like get it gone.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah for sure. I mean that's how I mean you
could you know he respect the game.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So you said, you know what you're to do. What's
your ceiling?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
My ceiling?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yes, I don't believe in ceilings, you know. I just
go out and I work every day, every chance that
I get in. Whatever it looks like after it's done,
that's what it'll be.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Scouting America. Okay, you go to ww dot bes scout
dot org, and I know you credit them with helping
discover you, helping get your name out there. If I'm
a parent or I'm a kid, I'm sixteen years old
and I'm somewhere in the Midwest, and I got a
kid who's a grinder, a football player. What's your advice
to them on the summer on getting ready for next year?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
For me, scared of scouting.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
So it sounds cliche, but like me being able to
be a part of scouting and understanding that I had
to learn how to to juggle both things, and holding
the same amount of importance in scouting that it was
to me involved, and realizing how much they partnered together,
Like the things that I was learning in Scouts that
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I was applying to the field that was enabling me
to be a better player. Yeah, if I was a parent,
which I am now and which my son's going to do.
He's going to be a scouting like because he needs
to learn different aspects of the world that you can't
seek out there by yourself. You had to be a
part of a place that loves you unconditionally and wants
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to show you how to survive. So parents, go go
put your kids in scouting. It's a necessity they needed.
And if you want to find more out about Scouts,
just go to be a Scout dot org.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Be a Scout dot org. Hey Man congratulates an amazing season.
You see you next year in the Huddle of the Blue,
of course.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Thanks for listen to The Doug Gotlep Show podcast. Be
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the gold standard. There are certain people that are the
gold standard. The gold standard in being a football insider
is Jay Glazer and he's joining us now on the
Doug Gottlib Show on Bros Sports Radio. I say that
because I mean it, because for you, you are not
one of these spitball just coordinators storat desert of stuff.
It's only things that matter, and it's usually a week
or two before everybody else comes out with what what
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what matters?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
And it's on Sundays, and that's where it look I
used to be. I was just telling somebody here my
first super Bowl was here in New Orleans, ninety five year,
ninety six super Bowl, and I was beyond broke. I
was making nine grand a year. And the New York said,
we'll send you down. No, no, we'll send you down.
If you get down there, We'll give you two hundred
fifty bucks for a story. A New York one TV said,
if you can get down there, we'll let you do
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three stand ups for one hundred and fifty bucks each.
But I didn't have We're not going to put you
up to stay here or fly there, or food or anything.
And I also broke. I didn't have money for food.
I got myself down here, and like these flight credits
I had from Green to be.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Bumped from other flights.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I stayed on like some goth chicks couches that I
didn't even know, and I would eat it in this
rat a row area and then I would go to
parties to try and eat there. And the first party
ever went to was it the House of Blues here
in New Orleans. Sugarhill Hill Gang performed, but it was
Howie Long Party. And that's my brother now. So like,
what a journey to go from making nine grand a
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year to being part of the.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, broadcast crew for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
And it's uh man, I still wait to wake up
in fifth grade and none of this stuff happened. I'm
always every single day and my life. I'm like, thank
you my best friend, God Almighty. In even I can't
believe I'm here. But it's you know, it's that grind
and you like you're saying about the insider. I was
the first minute by minute breaking news guy in this
country when that Internet thing came out, which I think
is gonna take off. It was me, mort John Clayton
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and Len pass Curly.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That was it.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
It was us against each other. Yes, and Peter King
wasn't breaking news, but he was, you know, uh an
insider too. And I did that freaking minute by minute
by minute, and then it was became okay, well who
could tweak fastest if I didn't sign up for that?
So now I make sure And it was great because
Fox came to me. They're like, look, you're gonna kill
yourself too it because also, like ESPN has one hundred people,
and if I'll network out one hundred.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
People, Fox is just me. And you know, they're like, as.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Long as you come on Sundays and you make sure
you have better stuff than anybody in the planet, and
you come out with stuff with less field, that's all
we want.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And that's what's great for me.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
You have to watch Fox, Fox inn a feal Sony
cause I'm gonna doll you sthning every week that nobody
knew and like you're saying, also weeks earlier, and a
lot of times I say stuff now and people get
outraged because it seems so outlandish, Like you know, a
couple of years ago, I said, oh Odell Beckham's gonna
get traded of this.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Offseason, people went crazy.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
I got so much hate because I reported what was
gonna happen way before it was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
But I knew it was gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
But that's the whole point is you put stuff out
that the rest of the world doesn't know, and on
Sundays that's my that's my pott of goal with the
end of Rainbow. Plus also, I have a I have
an obligation that you guys, the Fox Sports family. I
really really look at it like my teammates are everything
to me, and I have an obligation to come out
better stuff for anybody else.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I will never mail it in. And all I got
is grind to me.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Do I have to wait till Sunday to find out
if Aaron Rodgers is gonna play football next year?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I ton'tally answer that question yet, Okay, but even like perfect.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Example last week, right, And that's the other thing too,
my access I'm very proud of. So I came on
the NFC Championship game and I directly talked to Aaron.
Glenn said, we're not gonna drag it out. I want
to go meet with Aaron in person. We'll have an
answer much sooner than later. I'm not gonna drag this out.
I want to go meet him in person.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
And it was great.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
We're the only ones who had Aaron directly until he
Aaron Glenn, I mean until he talked to the rest
of the media, like three days later, whatever it was.
And that's my job. My job is to get direct information,
so you know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You've been very upfront with battles of depression, with other
things in your.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Life, anxiety, AD and BiPOL or you name it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I got it right, well, ADHD is something that I
know I have Yep, Sun has it. And now as
a college basketball coach, we talked to our players about
it all the time, right, because all those other things
are a byproduct in many ways of ADHD. What do
you do about it?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So I'm lovely you brought up to as a coach too,
because I get brought in.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's funny.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I started the first mixed martial arts training program for
pro athletes since country, and I used to get brought
into teams to talk about violence and how to break people.
And part of it was like our fighters and football players,
if you were hurt and tired, you will never ever
ever know. Our fighters cannot take a stool in between rounds.
I get a march back and forth, and march back
and forth because we want to try and break you.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I want somebody to sit there and go, what's wrong
with that dude?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
And like you watch Like Andrew Whitworth we had for years,
witt would not put his head in the huddle. He
would dip his ear in and look to see on
the other side who's gassing, who got their hands on
their hips, and we go try and break that person.
And you need that in a cage or football field,
a basketball court. So you need but that same mindset,
especially as men, gets people like me or Elane Johnson
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or Andrew Whitworth to crawl up in the freaking corner
of our room in a fetal position, crying out of
nowhere one night, or just suffering silence for all these years.
And now I want guys to start leaning into each other.
I want them to start. And I tell these teams
you probably don't think you got enough. Like NFL teams
only have to have a therapists on site three days
a week.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
When you got fifteen strength coaches and trainers, it doesn't
make any sense when everything starts in that six inches
between your ears. I'm like, you may not think you
got enough therapists, but you do you got fifty three
sit next to you on either side, and the brotherhood
that this is. I've gone from having friends to brothers. Now,
then we could talk about it. The ADHD part when
I tell coaches and when I look. God gave me
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the ability to communicate. So I try and describe depression anxiety.
I didn't know I had anxiety till I heard Terry
Bradshaw talk about it twelve years after my first anxiety attack.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
When I thought I was having a heart attack. I
was gotting.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
My heart checked out for twelve years and TV was
talking about in our green room. I'm like, wait, say
that again. Oh my god, that's what I have, right.
I didn't know so at ADHD when I go. I
was one of the first adults diagnosed with ADHD in
the East Coast of America Princeton University in nineteen eighty nine.
And what I try and tell coaches and anybody. They
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told me how to learning disability, and I'm got a
learning disability. I just don't learn the way you teach right,
and the way I describe ADHD, it's like you're drowning.
If I'm sitting in something that I cannot pay attention
It's like I'm drowning and my only breath of fresh air.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Is to disrupt the class.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Start talking, to start fidgeting it, start doing stuff. You
think I want to get grounded every freaking year, week
of my life. No, And I tell football coaches your
players are unable, They're not capable.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You think they want to get fined all the time.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
No, you have to figure out a way to coach better,
to get them to understand what's gonna what's going to
resonate with them more now. But because I've started to
talk about all these and also on the other end,
I've also trying to figure out where do these.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Issues help me?
Speaker 6 (29:28):
So I try and weaponize my ADHD, my depression, my anxiety,
my polarom'still trying to figure that one out. But where
they've helped me. If you can weaponize them, then you're
not ashamed by them. So because I talk about it now,
I found a drug called Calbury, which is a non stimulant,
and I got to put on stimulants in eighty nine.
And at least the way they work with me and
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my depression, it was not good.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Man.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I pushed away a lot of good people in my
life had a lot of violent outbursts. So I just
stopped really with everything, and I've because I've opened up now,
I've tried to learn different things. Kelbury is the first
pharmaceugal I've had that It's helped me and actually take
it at night so.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
You can never dream about the other ADHD drugs, right,
the ruppers.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, you can't take it night night.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yeah, And I'll tell you that the wild.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
My wife Rosie, we had to evacuate Malibu recently and
you know, we we went outside our cell service cuts.
We didn't know everything was burned down around us until
we went outside to walk our dog and ran out,
didn't grab it the calbrey, and we didn't get back
in our house for a little while, and she was like, hey,
you're all over the map, like you need this and
like I know anymedia, but I just we just grab whatever,
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you know, our dog and got out of there. So
it's been a game changer for me. It really has been.
And there's no shame in it that it's called Kelby
Kelbury q E L B r ee.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It has been.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Look, I'm doing a nine hour media tour today, which
is not ADHD conducive so I couldn't do this without the.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Calbrey like you, Like we said, you've been doing this
for a long time. No, Ayay has been through a lot.
Like one of the things that sometimes we cover, sometimes
we brush overs.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Was.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
With the stuff with his boys. Obviously at the end
of uh in Philly and the start in Kansas City
could not have been easy. But he is so beloved. Yeah,
by the.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
He's your favorite uncle. You don't want to disappoint, you know.
And I also like and and I are really close.
In one of the conversations I did have with him, Look,
I was not raised to do the bad things I
did growing up. I thought it was cool to be
a jack off and to do these things. I just
had no business. I think, if you're a great parent,
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you got a fifty to fifty shot. If you're a
bad parent, he had a ten percent shot. I mean
that's just where I view it.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah. I literally just told him this all day, and
I never really told him about it.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Some of the the really hate the stuff that me
and my crew had grown up, cause I'm ashamed, but
we connected out. Like that's what's great about this football community. Like,
even though there's a bunch of badass and the whole thing.
I said, like, hey, you don't show it. You don't
show it, we actually do. We kind of lean in
and get vulnerable with each other. And I'm I'm trying
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to lead the way with the vulnerability. You're not questioning
my man, I'll cry on the drop of a time.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
There's a lot of talk, and this is more football
e than personally. There's a lot of talk running backs.
The big discussion in the last offseason, and Saquan stayed
a year with the Giants and now he's with the Eagles,
and I made the cases here that it's literally the
greatest thing ever for his career. Now he he leaves behind, absolutely, yeah,
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but he leaves behind what Strahan has now. Straighthn obviously
played on better teams, But when you're in New York
and you're mister Giant, the rest of your life is
pretty damn good when you're a really smart, good dude,
which he is. And Strahan is right, Okay, so you're
lead behind that to go to Philadelphia, which is strictly
a football decision. But can you think of a football
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decision being any better than the one that he get
that he landed.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
It's fine, you know, it's it's interesting because as I've
done this, you know a road today, this questions come
up a lot as Saquon and Derek Henry and Josh
Jacobs reset the running back market and it should get
valued more. But the free agents wh are out there
ain't like these guys. They're not physical, durable, you know,
difference makers in that way. I do think that the
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position will get more value, but I still I don't
know if it's gonna equal out where guys are get paid.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
But they should get paid. I mean, they really get
beat up more anybody else.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
If if you're not running ball, you're blocking, you're taking
on lineman, you're taking on We just saw James Harrison
over You're still huge. You're trying to block James Harrison
like it's it's it is not good for your health
to be running.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Back when you're on the set this Sunday it's a
Super Bowl ye And as do you ever do you
get a moment to realize that you went from sleeping
on some goth chicks couch everything the person that everybody
wants the information on what's going to happen next in
the league.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Over every single show I'm ever on, right before we
walk out, I take a little spot and I actually
tell coaches do the same thing, go find a little
spot from where their first head coach job on. And
I literally look up to God and I go, thank you,
my best friend, God Almighty. I cannot believe I'm here,
And just living in gratitude is way better better than
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living in the misery that of you know, to get here,
of the grind, it's a lot, man, It's lonely.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
It's like trying to be great is lonely, you know,
and trying to make your dream come true as lonely.
And it's a lot of being rejected. And it's not
what people think. You can pay your bills better, but man,
it's a lot to go through. And if I didn't
have my mental health issues, I probably would have quit
a long time ago because I felt so worthless. Every
time I got turned down for a job, I'm like, sure,
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of course I want eleven years when I getting full
time job.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Are you kidding me? Like I was like, yeah, of course,
I'm turned out. I should be turned down, So yeah
I will.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I'll probably do it three or four times this week.
I'll do it during the game. I'm a big God guy.
I talk to God all the time about this, like
my best friend. I don't ask God to get me
a job and make me rich.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I just say, hey, just please make I got it.
I'll handle it.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Just when I get knocked down, pick me up, brush
me off, and let's keep walking this walk together.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
So yeah, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Man, that's been awesome. One more time. The drugs name
kilbrey QE.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Know you q e l b r e E. Like
I said, I take it at night, totally focuses me
and you know again, like thank god I started talking
about it because I wouldn't have if I wasn't so vocal,
I wouldn't have known that these things would have been
brought to me.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
So you're here and at home, talk about it.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Open up these teammates of mine, these people like I
came over here today. I FaceTime Michael Phelps because I
was nervous of how I would be with my anxiety
when I get in situations like this and boom right away,
like this is what we do with each other, Michael Phelps,
and you're not a bothered anybody it gets you.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
People become went from friends to brothers.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
And it really I think the way the world is
now too were social media is just kicking your butt
all the time and we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's
freaking filtered highlights each day. We need these connections more
than ever and people want to be there for you.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I appreciate it. I needed this message myself. Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Appreciate you man,
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dot com studios. Here at Radio Row. It's the side
of the Super Bowl and a man who has coached
in this very big game. It was just announced as
accepted a job at his alma monitor at Cal. Essentially
the we'll get to the actual term of it, because
again at Cal, it's never as easy as just this
is call them the gentle manager. They had to come
up with a bunch of different stuff. But basically he's
going to kind of oversee parts of the football program,
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a position that many in the college game have now accepted.
Ron Rivera is our guest here on the Doug Gotlip Show. Coach,
How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm doing well, Doug, I really am.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
How are you good? So tell me about the position
at Cal?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Right well, what we're trying to do is is and
we're still working on the detail of it, as you said,
but it really is somebody that's gonna work with a
football program. It's gonna work on every facet as much
as we can. Working with the coaching staff, trying to
help the head coach, trying to help the head coach
get resources, trying to help coach get players, work with
the university intercollegiate department, trying to help fundraising, help the
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university fundraise itself. So there's gonna be a little bit
more to it, I believe. I'm really excited about it.
Had an opportunity to talk with the chancellor about this.
It's a neat opportunity. It's a unique opportunity, and I'm
excited because it's an opportunity for me to give back
to the university as a whole.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, it's and Cal obviously a great place, number one
public institution in America and a place I know that
there's something different when it's your school. You know when
it's your school, there's some you've coached in this game,
when you coach in this game, you had an incredible defense.
But so the dever Broncos. Yes, right, they just and
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you just couldn't crack that code. If you could go
back and change one thing about your prep, what would
it be, you know?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
In all honesty, to me, it really wasn't about the
prep more than it It was about the circumstances. There
was there was one play I think that really kind
of defined it, and it was the first time we
had the balls in offense and there was a pass
play that in today's game, it's one of those things
that it could have gone either direction, and because of
certain elements, it was called against us, and that one
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play I really do think was a little bit of
the difference. It was something that that put us behind. No, No,
it was it was the past completion incompletion. Cam had
thrown a ball that was right there on the cusp
of whether it was complete or not. It was ruled
initially a completion, then it was overruled as an incompletion,
so then it was challenge, and the challenge was, well,
not enough evidence to change it back. Well, okay, if
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there's not enough evidence to change it back, then why
was it gone from completion and incompletion?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know what I'm saying. So it's one of those
things you could argue and it's a little bit of
sour grapes on my apartment.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
No, that's the truth that matter because from my perspective,
and then I promise you from their perspective.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But at the end of the.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Day, when those things happen, those things do make impacts,
They do change certain things, and that was one of
the things that was an impactful play.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
There's there's no question. I mean, like, look, I'm coaching
college basketball. We're on a losing streak. It's not great.
And I can point to in so many of these games,
one play, one call where if it goes a different way,
I don't know that the outcome is gonna be different,
but there's a great chance, right. Momentum is a real thing,
and it also kind of screws up. You know, you
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have your scripted plays, and when one doesn't go your way, suddenly, now, okay,
what do we do? What do we do with the
with the with the script? Is it better to have
it's the old? Is it better to have loved and
lost and never loved at all? Like having gone to
the Super Bowl but not wonted? Is that better than
not having gone to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Oh, I agree, it doesn't matter going to the Super
Bowls and experience in itself. Okay, And only so many
people can say I've been to a super Bowl. Only
so many people can say I won a super Bowl.
I'm fortunately I can say I've won one, and I've lost.
I've lost too, but I've been there, and it's an
amazing experience.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's everything that we work for as players and as coaches.
I mean, when you get there, you're at the peak. Okay,
you're at the top. But to stand on the very pinnacle,
you've got to win it. So I've been there and
and and I've done both and and to me, it's
the reason why if you get into this game for
any other reason than going and winning the Super Bowl,
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then you shouldn't be in this league.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I mean, okay, so I got to ask you. Cam
Newton just said, I know, he just said, I know,
you know if you give back your MVP to win
a Super Bowl. He's like, nah, you know, I can,
I can?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I can?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I can?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I get can? I take a guess you're thinking to yourself,
but you can't say welcome to my world. This was
this was what I was managing.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, the thing about Cam two and let's don't forget
he's been to the peak and the pinnacle of college football.
He's won the Heisman, and he won a national championship.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I get it. But we're talking about I.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Know in the NFL he's won the MVP. He hasn't
won that.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
So and tell you win it.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You don't know what it's about.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, that's fair. That's what all said that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I'll be politically correct.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay. The other part that's interesting is you were known
and it was really I felt like that season and
maybe a little bit later you got the nickname of
riverboat Run. But the riverboat run at first, and again,
tell me if I'm wrong, you're a fair was because
you were generally conservative in nature, right, you were. You
were a punt anytime on fourth down guy. You were
very very conservative, defensive minded and by the way, that
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team was one of the best defenses that probably doesn't
get credit, right, Sean McDermott built it for you. That
was a great defense. But you were conservative. And then
all of a sudden you started going for it a
little bit and you got the kind of almost sarcastic
nickname which you then e.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
B, Yeah, it's this tremendous story.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Really, what happened was after my first two seasons in
the NFL as a head coach, I had this three
and thirteen record of losing games by six, seven points
or less. And after each year I would sit down
with the previous owner, Jerry Richards, and we would go
through the year and talk about different things. When we
finish up our discussion, I turned him. I says, you know,
I need a mentor. I need somebody to talk with
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and understand some things and helped me through some situations.
He kind of chuckles a little bit and he goes,
I want you to look at this, and he slides
this piece of paper across to me and on the
piece of paper John Madden and his phone number. He goes,
you and I are on the same page. I want
you to call coach. He's expecting your call. I've already
talked to him about you talking to him.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So I get done. The first thing I did. I
called him right away. We had this great twenty minute conversation.
He says, Hey, come on out to Pleasanton, California, come
to my office. Let's sit down, let's talk football. So
I do I make this plan. I fly out there.
We sit down, we start talking. I previously that. He
told me, go back, look at those games that you lost,
those thirteen games, and see if there's something you could
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have done differently. Well, in my mind it's like, hey,
do a report.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So I go back. I watched those thirteen games. I
write these notes up.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I do this, I type it all up and make
this twenty page report from my fly out there fled
in California's to Red Bear Ventures, go to his office.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We sit down.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We start talking and say, oh, here, I brought this
report you wanted me to do.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And what report?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I said, well, talking about the thirteen games I had lost.
He looks at me and goes, that's not for me,
that's for you.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What did you learn?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I said, well, like this one here, I punted when
I think we had an opportunity to possibly go for it,
and then on this one I took the field goal
to go up by six, and then they score a
touchdown and beat us by by one. He said, yeah,
and each one knows what could you have done? I said, well,
I could have probably gone for it. He said, exactly it.
I'f fron you're being conservative for what reason. I said,
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I'm going by the book. He said, what book? There
is no book. And it made me realize when he
said that what I was doing was what was conservative,
what was safe. I wouldn't get criticized if it went
the other way, and made me realize that.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Shoot.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So fast forward. Now we're in twenty thirteen. We're playing
a game. We're playing the Giants at home. We get
to our first drive, it's fourth down at midfield.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I go for it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
We get the first down. We continue on the drive,
get to the goal line. It's fourth in the goal.
Go for it, punch it in for a touchdown. We
score again. We scored.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
We beat him pretty good. We shut him.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I think we wont like thirty three to nothing or
something like that. The next week, I do it in Minnesota.
First series of go forward to fourth down, We get it,
get down to the goal line, fourth and three. We
ran a shovel pass touchdown, so we win the game.
After the game, somebody in the media is interviewing fans, Hey,
what do you think.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh, it's great coach being aggressively. It's great.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Get to this one, gentlemen, So what'd you think of
coach Vera going for it before down. He goes, well,
I'll tell you what, Oh, coach Rivera out there like
a riverboat gambler, that old riverboat ron.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now you're splitting aces at the casino. I know your
dad was in the Army. Yes, he was a NOMA
as well.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is that what drew you to USAA.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, you know the fact that my dad served thirty
two years in the United States Army, traveling all over
the world with him. You know, we'd gone to Germany,
we'd gone to Panama, we were all over the United States.
Our home base was Ford or California. And so being
part of a military family and understanding exactly what that
commitment of sacrifice is drove me to want to support
the military every opportunity I got. Well, then I get
a little bit of a platform because the usaas Salute
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the Service. So from there we do many things that
we can show our support. And the great part was
USA was behind us the whole way. So fast forward
a couple of years, I get an opportunity, I win
the USA Salute the Service Award. Very proud moment for me,
but a great moment for my dad. I mean, he
was very proud of the whole award, and so I've
joined with them the last few years in support of it.
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And the real neat thing is this year's a winner
is George Kittle from the forty nine Ers, a guy
that does the same thing. He supports so many different
efforts throughout, but he also supports the military in a
big way, and USA has recognized him as this year's
Salute the Service Award winner.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, Coach Rivera, I'm sure Cal is so proud to
have you back all the things you stand for as well.
Go ahead, and a good one.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Were you the one that's really the commanders?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
He was asking, Well, you're the one that suggested the commanders.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The command No, are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean, if I could, I would, if I would
have stuck with with with the original name.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I grew up a fan.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yes, I believed in it, and and I I know
it's hard for people to understand, but you know, to me,
it's it's it's a traditional thing and and and we're
not going to name our our sports teams after derogatory name. Sure,
And that's that was always kind of my stance. But
I understood the social issue, the social pressures which was very,
very unfair. I think the thing that people have to
understand too as well is that you know when when
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when you do things and you make decisions, especially decision
like that, you have to go out and you've got
to really research it. Well, there was a tremendous amount
of research done. I mean, they they they they brought
in former players, you know, they brought in fans, They
brought in focus groups, and they they they put all
these names out to it. And that's how it was decided.
It wasn't decided by me. It was decided by focus groups,
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alumni and fans.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
I remember that there was a video where they like
blurred out your lips, so it was like Jason Wright
showed it to you.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I think a bunch of different nicknames.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, yeah, and and And the truth matter is at
that point what was decided was because this is the
nation's capital, because of where we were. Okay, a name
befitting leadership was probably what we were looking for because
this is the nation's capital, this is this is the
base of all the power in the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's worth now, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It is. Well, coach, listen, enjoy back in Berkeley. More
things changed when they stay the same there, it's still
berserkly And thanks so much for being our guests.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Now, I appreciate the advice you gave me to Doug,
I really do. I know you've been through it as
a coach and understanding what's been going on in the
in the NCAA.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I have been going through the the the losses, and
I have I have a mentor in the great Dick Bennett.
Oh wow, who who who helps me sort through all
these things as well. So I'm actually learning from you
as we speak. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Thank you very much, Doug.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every weekday three to five
Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your
local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every day on the
iHeartRadio app by searching FSR s Doug Gottlieb Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. And I'm actually super psyched about
(12:25):
talking with David Montgomery, running back obviously Detroit Lions, who
joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Not just
because of the Lions and that story and what happens now.
But also I mean his rise to superstardom at Iowa
State because as a Big Twelve guy, remember when Iowa
State was at the bottom of the league. He was
part of what's been built there with Matt Campbell and
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now one of the dominant teams in the Big Twelve.
But you're also joining us on behalf of scouting America.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Why yeah, I mean I think ultimately, you know, you
get lost in between the attributes and the things I've
done on the field, and people don't really know a
much that much about like scouting and how much it's
kind of shaped who I am today. So yeah, I'm
just here to kind of like pay homage and you know,
shed more light on something that helped, you know, create
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who I am to this day.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But you grew up like in the heart in Ohio,
in the football country, right were you under underrecruited?
Speaker 7 (13:22):
I like to say so, yeah, very underly recruited. Didn't
have a bunch of offers, so why the world may
never know, but it worked out, so I don't complain any.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
When you got to Iowa State, what were your expectations.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
To be the best version of myself that I could
be every day and prove myself right and don't worry
about proving anybody else wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
How long did it take before it hit before you
like where? I mean, obviously you had the self confidence
that you knew ultimately, but where everyone around you was like, oh,
he's a dude.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
The people who really do already really but I don't know,
I really don't care, honestly, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
What what was it like to take Iowa State to
heights that they hadn't really experienced.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
It definitely wasn't something that was done single handedly. You know,
it was a bunch of guys who committed the same
amount or if more amount of time to try to
change the place's culture. And you know, because Kimmel did
a great job in bringing the right guys in. You
know a lot of people like to go for like
the five stars, all the guys that got the crazy numbers,
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but they forget about like the ballplayer, Like, can you
bring in people who are willing to be selfless enough
to do whatever it takes to win for each other?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
And I think when you're able.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
To build a culture around that, and you know, the
people there and that the players that actually believe in it,
I think you can do something special.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
So I was just happy to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
What was you talk about culture and what it was
built there? What was so unique about the Lions in
comparison to other previous NFL seasons you'd.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Happen, Yeah, seasons are team either.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Uh. You know, I tell people to this day, you know,
I love Chicago and I love I'm so appreciative of
you know, them taking a chance on a kid who
didn't they no one really believed in. But I think
Detroit's like I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio. Like I'm from a
pretty a pretty violent area and a place that you
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know is proceived to just create and bring negativity. But
when I get to Detroit, it's a it's a blue
collar place. You know, it just felt like it fit
like a glove. Someone would say, it's a blue collar
place that people don't really know much about. It's a
lot of characters, it's a lot of pozazed there's a
lot of stuff there that people don't understand that if
(15:54):
you just are there, it's not as bad as you
think it is. It's a place who loves to love people,
you know, So, yeah, it just it just feels different.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
What what about Dan Campbell makes you guys play at
such a high level. I guess it would say for him,
but it feels like with him, like what what is
it about him on a day to day basis that
you guys embrace.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Well, I could speak for myself personally, you know, Coach
Campbell when I when I first had a conversation with him,
and I talked to him when I first got to Detroit,
I let him know like, look, I'm nowhere close to
where I can be and where I will be, but
I wanted to let him know like I appreciate him
(16:41):
looking at me and being able to think that I
can help this team. And after he said after I
said that, he looked at me right in my face
and he said the things that you don't know I know,
and he was basically just talking about my potential and
what I could be.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
He he just was like.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Reassured me that he knew exactly who I was going
to be without even like being knowing who I was yet. Yeah,
So he's just one of them people. He's a gritty dude.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
You know. He wants football players. He don't.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
He don't want to look forty times and he don't
want that because that could run the culture.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
He wants ball players.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What what's that like to be the best team in
the NFC. And then it's over. So it feels like
so quickly.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah, I mean two years in a row, we kind
of we felt short. This year was like a more
unfortunate way because that wasn't our brand of ball that
we played. We didn't come out like we usually come out.
But yeah, it definitely sucks, you know, being so close
with being so far in the same you know, aspect,
and you see two other teams playing in the ball.
(17:45):
He be like, that's supposed to be us, but that's everybody, right, So.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, but last year you're literally, yeah, I don't want
to say have the game, but you got to lead
in San Francisco and then nego sir pol And then
this year, everybody's got to come through Detroit, right, and
and you know, you get behind and turning football over
a little bit, and then it's like now it's all
of a sudden kind of playing catch up. Like you said,
you get out of yourself for sure.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
You know it's a place that Detroit it's not a
place that's used to winning, not place of used to
you know, handling like the success part of things.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
But it's one thing to lose and to allow that
to like eat you.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
But it's another thing to lose and know that it
sounds crazy to lose and to know like you're gonna
be way better than what you were.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yes, like we have No, I ain't like we lost.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
It sucked, it hurt, but like I know who I am,
and I know what I'm finna do, and I know
those other guys in the locker room, and I know
who coach Campbell is.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
So we gonna be in the super Bowl and we're
gonna win it. So it's not right now.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
How challenging will be with new coordinators.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Not challenging at all.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
The players make the place, the culture. It's a player
run team. You know, who's gonna be just fine. As
long as we got coach Cambell at the top and
that's where we need to be, will be fine.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
No player led teams are the best led teams. You know,
I'm a college I'm a college head, a basketball coach,
and it's like you can call all the players you want.
It doesn't matter it's about those guys figure it out
right fair enough.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
That's exactly what it's about.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
When you watch these two teams. Who do you have
Let's let's start with Saquon. Yeah, pro to pro. What
do you admire about Saquon?
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I think everything you know Quon, I don't think he
really had an opportunity to show like all.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
His abilities when he was in New York.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
But like a run from a running back to a
running back, Like you see him doing some of the
things that he does, It's like it's not surprising at all, just.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Because of who he is and how he works.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Bro, he jumped over to do that's not surprising. That's
not no, not coming from him. He's like he's a
freaking nature. But yeah, do.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You ever watch Pacheco run Yo man? Slow down like
he's he runs like you're holding the turbo button down?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Nah, for sure. He just run like he run like
he'd have been through a lot in his life.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yes, Yeah, Like Le'Veon Bell used to come up and
like survey and try and pick apart the whole, and
he's the opposite. He's just like get it gone.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah for sure. I mean that's how I mean you
could you know he respect the game.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So you said, you know what you're to do. What's
your ceiling?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
My ceiling?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yes, I don't believe in ceilings, you know. I just
go out and I work every day, every chance that
I get in. Whatever it looks like after it's done,
that's what it'll be.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Scouting America. Okay, you go to ww dot bes scout
dot org, and I know you credit them with helping
discover you, helping get your name out there. If I'm
a parent or I'm a kid, I'm sixteen years old
and I'm somewhere in the Midwest, and I got a
kid who's a grinder, a football player. What's your advice
to them on the summer on getting ready for next year?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
For me, scared of scouting.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
So it sounds cliche, but like me being able to
be a part of scouting and understanding that I had
to learn how to to juggle both things, and holding
the same amount of importance in scouting that it was
to me involved, and realizing how much they partnered together,
Like the things that I was learning in Scouts that
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I was applying to the field that was enabling me
to be a better player. Yeah, if I was a parent,
which I am now and which my son's going to do.
He's going to be a scouting like because he needs
to learn different aspects of the world that you can't
seek out there by yourself. You had to be a
part of a place that loves you unconditionally and wants
(21:44):
to show you how to survive. So parents, go go
put your kids in scouting. It's a necessity they needed.
And if you want to find more out about Scouts,
just go to be a Scout dot org.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Be a Scout dot org. Hey Man congratulates an amazing season.
You see you next year in the Huddle of the Blue,
of course.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Thanks for listen to The Doug Gotlep Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every weekday from three to
five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find
your local station for The Doug Gotlep Show at Foxsports
Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on
the iHeartRadio app by searching FSRS Doug Gottleep Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. There are certain things that are
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the gold standard. There are certain people that are the
gold standard. The gold standard in being a football insider
is Jay Glazer and he's joining us now on the
Doug Gottlib Show on Bros Sports Radio. I say that
because I mean it, because for you, you are not
one of these spitball just coordinators storat desert of stuff.
It's only things that matter, and it's usually a week
or two before everybody else comes out with what what
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what matters?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
And it's on Sundays, and that's where it look I
used to be. I was just telling somebody here my
first super Bowl was here in New Orleans, ninety five year,
ninety six super Bowl, and I was beyond broke. I
was making nine grand a year. And the New York said,
we'll send you down. No, no, we'll send you down.
If you get down there, We'll give you two hundred
fifty bucks for a story. A New York one TV said,
if you can get down there, we'll let you do
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three stand ups for one hundred and fifty bucks each.
But I didn't have We're not going to put you
up to stay here or fly there, or food or anything.
And I also broke. I didn't have money for food.
I got myself down here, and like these flight credits
I had from Green to be.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Bumped from other flights.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I stayed on like some goth chicks couches that I
didn't even know, and I would eat it in this
rat a row area and then I would go to
parties to try and eat there. And the first party
ever went to was it the House of Blues here
in New Orleans. Sugarhill Hill Gang performed, but it was
Howie Long Party. And that's my brother now. So like,
what a journey to go from making nine grand a
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year to being part of the.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, broadcast crew for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
And it's uh man, I still wait to wake up
in fifth grade and none of this stuff happened. I'm
always every single day and my life. I'm like, thank
you my best friend, God Almighty. In even I can't
believe I'm here. But it's you know, it's that grind
and you like you're saying about the insider. I was
the first minute by minute breaking news guy in this
country when that Internet thing came out, which I think
is gonna take off. It was me, mort John Clayton
(24:12):
and Len pass Curly.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That was it.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
It was us against each other. Yes, and Peter King
wasn't breaking news, but he was, you know, uh an
insider too. And I did that freaking minute by minute
by minute, and then it was became okay, well who
could tweak fastest if I didn't sign up for that?
So now I make sure And it was great because
Fox came to me. They're like, look, you're gonna kill
yourself too it because also, like ESPN has one hundred people,
and if I'll network out one hundred.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
People, Fox is just me. And you know, they're like, as.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Long as you come on Sundays and you make sure
you have better stuff than anybody in the planet, and
you come out with stuff with less field, that's all
we want.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And that's what's great for me.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
You have to watch Fox, Fox inn a feal Sony
cause I'm gonna doll you sthning every week that nobody
knew and like you're saying, also weeks earlier, and a
lot of times I say stuff now and people get
outraged because it seems so outlandish, Like you know, a
couple of years ago, I said, oh Odell Beckham's gonna
get traded of this.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Offseason, people went crazy.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
I got so much hate because I reported what was
gonna happen way before it was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
But I knew it was gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
But that's the whole point is you put stuff out
that the rest of the world doesn't know, and on
Sundays that's my that's my pott of goal with the
end of Rainbow. Plus also, I have a I have
an obligation that you guys, the Fox Sports family. I
really really look at it like my teammates are everything
to me, and I have an obligation to come out
better stuff for anybody else.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I will never mail it in. And all I got
is grind to me.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Do I have to wait till Sunday to find out
if Aaron Rodgers is gonna play football next year?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I ton'tally answer that question yet, Okay, but even like perfect.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Example last week, right, And that's the other thing too,
my access I'm very proud of. So I came on
the NFC Championship game and I directly talked to Aaron.
Glenn said, we're not gonna drag it out. I want
to go meet with Aaron in person. We'll have an
answer much sooner than later. I'm not gonna drag this out.
I want to go meet him in person.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
And it was great.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
We're the only ones who had Aaron directly until he
Aaron Glenn, I mean until he talked to the rest
of the media, like three days later, whatever it was.
And that's my job. My job is to get direct information,
so you know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You've been very upfront with battles of depression, with other
things in your.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Life, anxiety, AD and BiPOL or you name it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I got it right, well, ADHD is something that I
know I have Yep, Sun has it. And now as
a college basketball coach, we talked to our players about
it all the time, right, because all those other things
are a byproduct in many ways of ADHD. What do
you do about it?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
So I'm lovely you brought up to as a coach too,
because I get brought in.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's funny.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I started the first mixed martial arts training program for
pro athletes since country, and I used to get brought
into teams to talk about violence and how to break people.
And part of it was like our fighters and football players,
if you were hurt and tired, you will never ever
ever know. Our fighters cannot take a stool in between rounds.
I get a march back and forth, and march back
and forth because we want to try and break you.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I want somebody to sit there and go, what's wrong
with that dude?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
And like you watch Like Andrew Whitworth we had for years,
witt would not put his head in the huddle. He
would dip his ear in and look to see on
the other side who's gassing, who got their hands on
their hips, and we go try and break that person.
And you need that in a cage or football field,
a basketball court. So you need but that same mindset,
especially as men, gets people like me or Elane Johnson
(27:28):
or Andrew Whitworth to crawl up in the freaking corner
of our room in a fetal position, crying out of
nowhere one night, or just suffering silence for all these years.
And now I want guys to start leaning into each other.
I want them to start. And I tell these teams
you probably don't think you got enough. Like NFL teams
only have to have a therapists on site three days
a week.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
When you got fifteen strength coaches and trainers, it doesn't
make any sense when everything starts in that six inches
between your ears. I'm like, you may not think you
got enough therapists, but you do you got fifty three
sit next to you on either side, and the brotherhood
that this is. I've gone from having friends to brothers. Now,
then we could talk about it. The ADHD part when
I tell coaches and when I look. God gave me
(28:09):
the ability to communicate. So I try and describe depression anxiety.
I didn't know I had anxiety till I heard Terry
Bradshaw talk about it twelve years after my first anxiety attack.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
When I thought I was having a heart attack. I
was gotting.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
My heart checked out for twelve years and TV was
talking about in our green room. I'm like, wait, say
that again. Oh my god, that's what I have, right.
I didn't know so at ADHD when I go. I
was one of the first adults diagnosed with ADHD in
the East Coast of America Princeton University in nineteen eighty nine.
And what I try and tell coaches and anybody. They
(28:43):
told me how to learning disability, and I'm got a
learning disability. I just don't learn the way you teach right,
and the way I describe ADHD, it's like you're drowning.
If I'm sitting in something that I cannot pay attention
It's like I'm drowning and my only breath of fresh air.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Is to disrupt the class.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Start talking, to start fidgeting it, start doing stuff. You
think I want to get grounded every freaking year, week
of my life. No, And I tell football coaches your
players are unable, They're not capable.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You think they want to get fined all the time.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
No, you have to figure out a way to coach better,
to get them to understand what's gonna what's going to
resonate with them more now. But because I've started to
talk about all these and also on the other end,
I've also trying to figure out where do these.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Issues help me?
Speaker 6 (29:28):
So I try and weaponize my ADHD, my depression, my anxiety,
my polarom'still trying to figure that one out. But where
they've helped me. If you can weaponize them, then you're
not ashamed by them. So because I talk about it now,
I found a drug called Calbury, which is a non stimulant,
and I got to put on stimulants in eighty nine.
And at least the way they work with me and
(29:50):
my depression, it was not good.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Man.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I pushed away a lot of good people in my
life had a lot of violent outbursts. So I just
stopped really with everything, and I've because I've opened up now,
I've tried to learn different things. Kelbury is the first
pharmaceugal I've had that It's helped me and actually take
it at night so.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
You can never dream about the other ADHD drugs, right,
the ruppers.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, you can't take it night night.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yeah, And I'll tell you that the wild.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
My wife Rosie, we had to evacuate Malibu recently and
you know, we we went outside our cell service cuts.
We didn't know everything was burned down around us until
we went outside to walk our dog and ran out,
didn't grab it the calbrey, and we didn't get back
in our house for a little while, and she was like, hey,
you're all over the map, like you need this and
like I know anymedia, but I just we just grab whatever,
(30:37):
you know, our dog and got out of there. So
it's been a game changer for me. It really has been.
And there's no shame in it that it's called Kelby
Kelbury q E L B r ee.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
It has been.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Look, I'm doing a nine hour media tour today, which
is not ADHD conducive so I couldn't do this without the.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Calbrey like you, Like we said, you've been doing this
for a long time. No, Ayay has been through a lot.
Like one of the things that sometimes we cover, sometimes
we brush overs.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Was.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
With the stuff with his boys. Obviously at the end
of uh in Philly and the start in Kansas City
could not have been easy. But he is so beloved. Yeah,
by the.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
He's your favorite uncle. You don't want to disappoint, you know.
And I also like and and I are really close.
In one of the conversations I did have with him, Look,
I was not raised to do the bad things I
did growing up. I thought it was cool to be
a jack off and to do these things. I just
had no business. I think, if you're a great parent,
(31:39):
you got a fifty to fifty shot. If you're a
bad parent, he had a ten percent shot. I mean
that's just where I view it.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah. I literally just told him this all day, and
I never really told him about it.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Some of the the really hate the stuff that me
and my crew had grown up, cause I'm ashamed, but
we connected out. Like that's what's great about this football community. Like,
even though there's a bunch of badass and the whole thing.
I said, like, hey, you don't show it. You don't
show it, we actually do. We kind of lean in
and get vulnerable with each other. And I'm I'm trying
(32:12):
to lead the way with the vulnerability. You're not questioning
my man, I'll cry on the drop of a time.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
There's a lot of talk, and this is more football
e than personally. There's a lot of talk running backs.
The big discussion in the last offseason, and Saquan stayed
a year with the Giants and now he's with the Eagles,
and I made the cases here that it's literally the
greatest thing ever for his career. Now he he leaves behind, absolutely, yeah,
(32:41):
but he leaves behind what Strahan has now. Straighthn obviously
played on better teams, But when you're in New York
and you're mister Giant, the rest of your life is
pretty damn good when you're a really smart, good dude,
which he is. And Strahan is right, Okay, so you're
lead behind that to go to Philadelphia, which is strictly
a football decision. But can you think of a football
(33:03):
decision being any better than the one that he get
that he landed.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
It's fine, you know, it's it's interesting because as I've
done this, you know a road today, this questions come
up a lot as Saquon and Derek Henry and Josh
Jacobs reset the running back market and it should get
valued more. But the free agents wh are out there
ain't like these guys. They're not physical, durable, you know,
difference makers in that way. I do think that the
(33:29):
position will get more value, but I still I don't
know if it's gonna equal out where guys are get paid.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
But they should get paid. I mean, they really get
beat up more anybody else.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
If if you're not running ball, you're blocking, you're taking
on lineman, you're taking on We just saw James Harrison
over You're still huge. You're trying to block James Harrison
like it's it's it is not good for your health
to be running.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Back when you're on the set this Sunday it's a
Super Bowl ye And as do you ever do you
get a moment to realize that you went from sleeping
on some goth chicks couch everything the person that everybody
wants the information on what's going to happen next in
the league.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Over every single show I'm ever on, right before we
walk out, I take a little spot and I actually
tell coaches do the same thing, go find a little
spot from where their first head coach job on. And
I literally look up to God and I go, thank you,
my best friend, God Almighty. I cannot believe I'm here,
And just living in gratitude is way better better than
(34:26):
living in the misery that of you know, to get here,
of the grind, it's a lot, man, It's lonely.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
It's like trying to be great is lonely, you know,
and trying to make your dream come true as lonely.
And it's a lot of being rejected. And it's not
what people think. You can pay your bills better, but man,
it's a lot to go through. And if I didn't
have my mental health issues, I probably would have quit
a long time ago because I felt so worthless. Every
time I got turned down for a job, I'm like, sure,
(34:54):
of course I want eleven years when I getting full
time job.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Are you kidding me? Like I was like, yeah, of course,
I'm turned out. I should be turned down, So yeah
I will.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I'll probably do it three or four times this week.
I'll do it during the game. I'm a big God guy.
I talk to God all the time about this, like
my best friend. I don't ask God to get me
a job and make me rich.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I just say, hey, just please make I got it.
I'll handle it.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Just when I get knocked down, pick me up, brush
me off, and let's keep walking this walk together.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
So yeah, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Man, that's been awesome. One more time. The drugs name
kilbrey QE.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Know you q e l b r e E. Like
I said, I take it at night, totally focuses me
and you know again, like thank god I started talking
about it because I wouldn't have if I wasn't so vocal,
I wouldn't have known that these things would have been
brought to me.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
So you're here and at home, talk about it.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Open up these teammates of mine, these people like I
came over here today. I FaceTime Michael Phelps because I
was nervous of how I would be with my anxiety
when I get in situations like this and boom right away,
like this is what we do with each other, Michael Phelps,
and you're not a bothered anybody it gets you.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
People become went from friends to brothers.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
And it really I think the way the world is
now too were social media is just kicking your butt
all the time and we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's
freaking filtered highlights each day. We need these connections more
than ever and people want to be there for you.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I appreciate it. I needed this message myself. Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Appreciate you man,
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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