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February 17, 2025 • 37 mins

Dan and Monse in for Doug as they discuss a recent post by Lebron James on X about Doug Gottlieb. Dan and Monse welcome Hall of Fame basketball coach Roy Williams onto the show to talk college hoops and something special Coach doing for his hometown people. Dan and Monse then discuss the NBA All-Star format. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes both through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal, or No Deal?".

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Look, we were gonna talk about Lebron James anyway, it
was gonna happen Monty. Now we get to talk about
him in a whole new fashion. Welcome in, Happy President's Day,
Happy President's Day.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's right Monday.

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Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hit her up at Monty Belanyo. She did that all
off the top of her dome, right out of the gates.
She doesn't need a script, she doesn't need any lines.
I have to say this. Doug Gottlieb, about two months ago,
lost a game to Michigan Tech. That tipped off at

(01:11):
about noon Eastern time, and the game ended probably at
about a little after two o'clock Eastern time, and that's
when the nobody you came out conversation came out and
people were saying, huh, Doug Gottlieb didn't even show up
for his own radio show that after making those comments. Well,
Number one, the comments were taken out of context. Number two,

(01:33):
Doug was never scheduled that day. You can't whether you
like the fact or don't like the fact that he's
got two gigs is beside the point the game that
was scheduled, with the window that it was, there was
no way he was going to be able to host
a nationally rated show. This was back in December, so
people think that he was ducking out. Do you think
today would be the day that Doug would duck out

(01:54):
after a victory?

Speaker 6 (01:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
No, oh, absolutely not. So Ug is not ducking out
on anything. In fact, Doug actually maybe joining us at
some point on the show today, even though we are
in on this holiday. So we hope to hear from
Doug Gottlieb at some point within the next two hours.
But we heard from Lebron James this morning, not on

(02:17):
this show, but via Instagram, and Doug Gottlieb was the
target of his message. What did I say? It was Twitter? Right, Yeah?
What did I say about? What did I Instagram? I
meant x X x.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
X what like, you know what? I still don't call
it X.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
I was like, yeah, Twitter, Uh huh, That's.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Why I was confused. I was like, I don't understand
its Twitter.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yes on x X.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
College Basketball report over the weekend. Prior to doug victory
yesterday against Wright State, tweeted out that Doug and the
Phoenix hadn't won a game in three months. The Phoenix
were currently two and twenty four. Oh, that was true.
They hadn't won a game since late November. Doug's talked
about it openly on the show. All he wanted was

(03:07):
a win. All he wanted was a win, and gosh,
Donnady got it yesterday against Wright State.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
First Horizon League victory. Congratulations to Doug Dottley been snapping
that twenty one game losing streak, and honestly, I'm just
happy for the kids. We don't know them personally, but
we've had interactions with the kids with going to his
opening game at Oklahoma State. I stopped by and saw
Doug in the summer at Green Bay and met some
of the guys, So there's a connection there. And for

(03:35):
as much as Doug has it, you know, Doug, Doug
Scott this job, Doug Scott that job. Doug's got his contract.
These kids have only these years, so you don't want
them to go on a twenty one game losing streak.
So for all of the hate and the vitrol that
Doug takes, there's also kids who are trying to live
out their basketball dream on a twenty one game losing streak.

(03:55):
So Doug takes a lot of heat for this, But
I think of those kids who were so excited to
get that win yesterday and how awesome it was, and
how awesome that locker room scene was. Lebron James goes
and tweets today quoting the College Basketball Report tweet pointing
out that Doughan won a game in three months, Lebron
James has earned two, not given. Got to give him
credit though, Jason, you did the count and the emojis?

(04:18):
What are we on the emoji count? For the laughing
emojis from Lebron.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
I count twenty three laughing emojis.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Nice in addition to five poop emojis. Yes, not three, four,
not five, not six, not seven.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
That didn't Angel did it.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
We were gonna talk about Lebron and him ducking out
of the All Star Game. We will and don't worry
real but this seems to be Lebron James. First of all,
I'm glad Jason actually made the distinction that it was
X because this isn't your following thing, Lebron's. It is
for you looking at everything else. Because this was from Saturday.

(04:54):
When Lebron tweets this this morning, this is actually dated information.
Maybe this was early Sunday that they they did it
before his game, So Lebron is on dated information, but
couldn't wait to take a shot at Doug, which I
think is solely because of his Doug has said a
lot of stuff over the here that's ruffled feathers. But
Doug took shots at Bronnie James and Bronnie James' career,

(05:17):
and one of the phrases Doug is used is that
Bronnie James is stint with the Lakers is more like
a make a wish situation that Bronnie James was a
make a wish kid. That's where I think Lebron James
is piling on on Doug Gottlieb here and his now
three and twenty four record with the Green Bay Phoenix.
That's where I think this all stems from. This completely
distracting from the fact that he bailed out on the

(05:39):
All Star Game last night in San Francisco.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
This obviously stems from that.

Speaker 8 (05:44):
There's no question where that tweet comes from. But Lebron,
you don't have better things to do than to tweet
Doug Gottlieb about this win like it is the lowest
of hanging fruit.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Isn't your foot messed up? Shouldn't you be worried about that?
I don't get like why Lebron.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
To me, it makes Lebron look a little bit pathetic
if I'm being completely honest. And what Doug said about
Bronnie James were acting like nobody was critical of Bronnie
James when everyone and their mom was. So what Doug
said wasn't breaking news or a hot take. Nobody thought
that Bronnie James was ready for the NBA. And so
to me, what Lebron, I'm like Lebron, this is the

(06:24):
lowest hanging fruit. Come on, man, like this is what
you're tweeting about. You're gloating about this to Doug Gottlieb Like, man,
he lives a rent free in your head.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Come on, man, and his point, his point, manci is
the exact point that Doug is trying to make about
Bronnie James. Yes, it's to be earned and not given.
And that was the problem that everyone had if they
had a problem with Bronnie James being drafted by the Lakers,
because we feel it was being given to him because
of his last name and knew his dad was. And unfortunately,

(06:52):
Bronnie James is the victim in a lot of this
because he's the subject, but it does trace back to Lebron.
So it's completely hip critical for Lebron to call out
Doug in being in a job that Lebron says was
given to him and not earned, when that's the whole
point that people are saying about Bronnie James, and whether
Lebron is trying to turn it in using Doug's words

(07:14):
or other's words against Doug. There is the fact that
college basketball in college sports in general, has turned to
a spot where maybe you don't necessarily need to be
in the coaching game for twenty five years. You need
to figure out a way to raise nil money and
do that sort of stuff and bring in different people.
And honestly, that is a strength that Doug has over

(07:35):
other coaches. Doug took the job in May, and I'm
not sitting here fighting the battles for Doug. But it's
the point of there's more of If you wanted to
compare the two, and if that's what Lebron is trying
to do here, Doug getting the job at Green Bay
is ten times one hundred times more legitimate than the
Lakers taking a flyer on Bronni James, who wasn't even

(07:57):
ready for the NBA Draft.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
At this point. I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 8 (08:01):
I don't know the details of like what Doug has
tried to do when it comes to coaching, but I
know this isn't his first stint.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I know he has some experience.

Speaker 8 (08:10):
Maybe it's not the experience to this level, but I
agree with you this we're not comparing the same thing.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
And like you said, it it's now, it's.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
Times are different.

Speaker 8 (08:21):
You are not looking for a necessarily older coach who's
been around you kind of want somebody to spice things up.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
We were literally seeing that.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
I know Bill Belichick is going to college. I mean
they're spicing that up too.

Speaker 8 (08:32):
Okay, in a different way, but I'm with you, like
it's it's not the same. And again, it's just like
makes Lebron Lebron, this is not this is not the
the tweet you think it is. You're not cooking here, you.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
And there are there are people getting pushed, but there
are people They're gonna fight and argue with Lebron no
matter what he does. Like that's that's true.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
And people are gonna fight with Doug no matter what.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah. Absolutely, And there's also a part of me, honestly,
like I don't I feel a little weird because it's
not that Doug needs me to fight his battle. Doug
can handle this himself. I think Doug would welcome this,
and I think you'll welcome it when he's on the
show tomorrow and when he actually hopefully joins us today
if travel plans end up working out and allowing him
to do so, Like that's I don't need to fight

(09:13):
anything for Doug. It just is Lebron now in our world,
and I don't think this tweet erases what he did
last night from NBA Twitter, but it does in our
world of Fox Sports Radio, and it does on the
Doug Cottleeb Show, considering he's calling out Doug Gottlieb, you,
Jason Stewart. It even pointed out I thought of his
Doug's comments using the make a wish phrase, which, by

(09:34):
the way, not to discredit Doug, and other people have
used that term as well. In talking about Bronni. You
found there was another thing that Doug said that may
have gotten under Lebron's skin to make him go to
this route.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
I think Doug was the only division one head coach
in the country that said that he doesn't know if
Bronni would start for his team. That went viral, and
that was over the summer. That was a little bold,
and I remember that got some run too. Dam could
commented on it, and at the time it was consistent
with what Doug was saying about Brownie. But I think

(10:06):
maybe in a vacuum, if you just kind of saw that,
that would probably raise to get on Lebron's radar.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
And I don't think Lebron has been sitting here waiting
for the right moment. Again, I think he was on
his for you page, not on the following page. Maybe
sitting on the can, scrolling on a Monday morning, resting
that foot, you know.

Speaker 8 (10:25):
The minute Doug one someone told him, They're like, hey,
this is your moment.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's the thing is the tweet was already dated, like
because Doug won yesterday, and unless Lebron is a huge
Right State fan, we know how much he loves Ohio State,
being the Ohio guy, but maybe he also loves Right State,
which is in the state of Ohio. Could be that
could possibly be the case. But that's what happened. He
was scrolling the College Basketball Report. Tweet did gainsteam because

(10:51):
it's Doug and they haven't had a good season and
they were riding that twenty one game losing streak, so
it was completely Doug had no idea that Green Bay
played yesterday and actually won. He wanted his opportunity. He said,
oh wow, I remember what Doug Gottlieb said to Jason's
point or to my point about the make a wish stuff,
and now let's pile on. And maybe that's why there
were the five emojis at the end because of what

(11:13):
he was doing when he came up on his for
you page. That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
But either way, either way, Lebron, take care of your foot.
Come on get here.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
NBA Twitter isn't gonna worry about this.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
But we will on Fox Sports obviously.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Again, Doug's going to respond to this at some point,
whether hopefully later on the show or even tomorrow. And
if you think that he's ducking you don't think Doug
would want to come on the show after a win,
you know, after a victory, after a big w that
they got yesterday.

Speaker 9 (11:39):
All Right, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio. Happy President's Day.
She's Monte Belanos. I'm Dan Beyer. Let's get right to it.
Joining us on the program. I'm right now spending time
with us on behalf of Verizon's Hall of Fame basketball
coach Roy Williams joining us in coach. Thanks so much
for coming on the program. Usually we bring you on,

(12:13):
we talk coops, we do the plug at the end.
But this plug is different than any others. You're teaming
up with Verizon because what you are doing with Western
Carolina is absolutely amazing. You are erasing their debts of
more than twelve million dollars for over sixty five hundred
people in the area that you call home. You're from Asheville,
North Carolina, for those recovering from the devastation that occurred

(12:36):
with Hurricane Helene. You're actually making phone calls telling people
that their debts being erased. First of all, welcome, but
how does it feel to make those sort of phone
calls to basically the area where you're from.

Speaker 10 (12:50):
Well, Dan, thank you very much for your comments, and
you'll be sure and Tail, Doug, it's a lot more
fun talking to you than it would have been him.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I won't throw any retirement rumors out do that. You
don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 10 (13:02):
Yeah, I'm still I'm going to be retired today, night,
tomorrow and everything. But no, thank you very much for
this comments. And you're exactly right. I mean, Verizon's given
that money to erase that for sixty five hundred North
Carolinians that were affected by problems, particularly those with Hurricane Helene,
and I mean, it's a good deal for me because

(13:24):
I believe so much in One of the things they
say is we will always stand by you. And I
think that for us, for me and my family, being
able to do something that might perhaps bring some more
attention to what Verizon's doing, and perhaps somebody else will
start doing some other things, because it was really a
difficult time. And people can see the pictures like I did.

(13:46):
They can see they show on the Weather Channel like
I did, But until you come and look and see.
We have a home in western Northkine. We stayed there
here in the summertime, very close to where we grew up.
Day after the start of the hurricane, we came up
and brought some gallance jugs of water to our little community.
We did. There's three ways to get to my house.

(14:08):
Two of them bought completely in the other one was
one lane. Last week drive to Ashville and drive on
up to Knoxville, Tennessee, and to see Tennessee play against Missouri.
And what the devastation that you see in the mountains
of North Carolina on into Tennessee. Pictures don't do it justice.
And who you see cars and trucks down in the

(14:29):
middle of the river, still sitting there, you know, one
hundred days later and the intersect forty is gone from
Asheville to Knoxville. And so for me to be involved
in touching actually people and relieved, giving them some relief
on their dead, it's just it's been a neat morning
for me, and it's given them some more hope, because

(14:49):
I think my hope is that other people will see
this and get the feeling that I had, and they'll
do even more of themselves.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Roy Williams joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. I think that it's great. Sometimes
we see these tragedies and then we just move on
with our lives and there's still devastation that needs to
be dealt with, and you're doing a great thing. Let's
talk a little hoops right now. I know year four
for Hubert Davis hasn't been the greatest. You just mentioned
going to check out Miszoo, Tennessee. I saw your thing

(15:18):
with coach k that you did with the North Carolina coaches,
and you kind of joked of you know, it took
me a while to not be a coach. You know,
maybe I jumped up in my seat once or twice.
But now you're a couple of year years removed. Maybe
things aren't going great with the tar Heels right now
on the bubble of the NCAA tournament. Do you have
conversations with Hubert and what do you think about the

(15:39):
state of where the tar Heels are in year four
under him?

Speaker 10 (15:43):
Well, it has been a tougher year. We've had so
many close games and we've won a couple, but we've
lost some of those games too, And it's they're in
a position right now that we haven't been in very often.
And it's been harder on coach Davis and his staff
and the players than it has anybody else. But to
the fans, they act like they're the ones that are hurting.

(16:03):
You're not hurting anything like the players and the coaches are.
But yes, I do see. Excuse me, so, I think
it's six games left. I think we're going to have
a great last three weeks of the season. I still
think that we're going to make the tournament. We get
into tournament, I think we can get some things going
and do some things that would make everybody very proud.
But coach Hubert Davis is fantastic doing a fantastic job. RJ.

(16:27):
Davis was the last player that I recruited that's still
on the team. I still have that little feeling for
that young man who's had a great, great career, and
so I'm still in the stands. I've only missed two
home games in four years and don't expect to miss
any of the rest of this season. So at the
end of the season, it'll be two home games that
I've missed in four years. And they're a lot harder

(16:49):
to watch as a fan. When I was coaching, I
was always thinking about the next possession, next possession, next possession.
I wasn't thinking about the score. Now look at the
score every five fecus to see if it's changed, So
it's much more difficult. But I think we just need
to put a little run together here and if we do,
then I think we'll make the tournament. And I have
faith in our team that we can make a run.

(17:11):
And we've seen it before last year in North Carolina
State made a great run. There's been one or two
teams every year that really get things going at the
end of the year, and I think we can be
one of those teams.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
You know, one of the things that I've always wanted
to ask you was Roy Williams joining us here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. By the way, she's Monte Millennial,
so I'm Dan Byer and for Doug today. Was the
transition from you to Hubert because it wasn't Dean Smith
to you as Bill Guthrich and then Matt Doherty and
then you end up taking over and winning the national
title in two thousand and five. But did you learn

(17:44):
from anything to handing the reins over to Hubert from
when you took the job at North Carolina. Was there
anything from that transition that you used in passing your
own torch over to Hubert.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
Well, I had tremendous faith in Hubert is still do
and I think he's the nicest person I've ever known
who is also fiercely competitive, and I think that's a
great combination. I'm extremely happy he's our coach. I mean,
his first year we played for the national championship. His
second year was not a good year. But his third
year we won the regular season, and that is hard

(18:17):
to do. It was hard to do when it's fifteen teams,
much less. I think we've got one hundred and six
teams in the league. Now maybe it's just eighteen, but
it seems like we got the nation covered. But so
this year has been a little bit of an up
and down year. But for us, we still have a chance.
There's a lot of teams that are just going to
play out their schedule. We have something to fight for.

(18:38):
But to answer your question, I had tremendous confidence who
still have premendous confidence in Hubert. He knows where I am.
I don't go and knock on his door and say,
let's talk about this on offense of this on defense.
I don't do that. We do talk, we do text
back and forth. But I'm a fan right now and
that's the way I like it right now. If I

(18:59):
was not going to be a fan, I would have
stayed in coaching. And you know, other people have come
up and asked me if I wanted another job, and
I said no, if I was going to continue working,
I had the best job in the world. So our
best job for Roy Williams, and there's no question. But
I do believe we have a chance. And you know,
you look down their bench, or I looked down their
bench and the last player I recruited as an assistant

(19:19):
at North Carolina for Coachtin Smith, what's huber dates and
everybody else on that staff either recruited or helped recruit,
and some of them, like Sean May and Marcus Paige,
they played for me. So it's that's my family and
it's not going to change my support for them.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right. Well, then the last one, since you're now
a fan, do you despise Cooper flag Johnny? Okay, I'm
just going to say he's a duchie. Now that you're
a fan, we'd give you a pass if that was
the guest.

Speaker 10 (19:47):
No, don't do I don't do that at all. I
think he's been a great, great player. I enjoy watching
him play. I would really like to see him play
three weeks from now and miss about every shot. You know,
he's he's going to do well, have one terrible game
and that'll be fine with me. But he appears to
be a great young man, a great kid. I'm seventy

(20:07):
four freaking years old and called it just about anybody
a kid, but it appears to be a great kid
who's really gifted and really does some good things for
his team. And you can tell that he puts in
the sweat equity and.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I love that well absolutely. And yesterday on my show,
I announced that Cooper Flagg was born in December of
two thousand and six, so he wasn't even born when
you won the first title at North Carolina. It blew
my mind for me in my late forties, I'm like, oh,
my goodness, two thousand and six, crazy, crazy, but yeah,
best rivalry in college basketball by far. Before we let

(20:40):
you go, coach, If anyone is listening, if they want
to help out, if they're still struggling from the aftermath
of Hurricane Heleen, what is your message to them today.

Speaker 10 (20:53):
That everybody can help and if you can just help
a little, that is still help. And the people that
I spoke with on the phone this morning, either FaceTime
or just on the phone, they were so appreciative and
they need help. And there's so many other people. There's
so many organizations the Red Cross or whatever here in
North Carolina that are really taking as many contributions in

(21:16):
food or clothing or money or whatever. And it does
go to health these people. And if you again, if
you see in person the devastation, it is mind boggling.
And like I say, I watched it on the Weather Channel,
saw all the pictures, but when I see it, it's
still just mind boggling. And where I used to be
a high school coach, Swann ANDOA in Black Mountain area,

(21:37):
so many things are gone and so that's what's really heartbreaking,
and that means that people have lost homes and loved ones.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, Coach, you'd like to thank you and Verizon for
teaming up to wipe out the ten million dollar debt
for those thousands of people that are still vulnerable from
Hurricane Helene. You're calling families today. I hope no one's
hanging up on you thinking it's a prank call, because
that's pretty awesome. Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 10 (22:01):
They've been very good. Thank you very much. Stanny. You
have a great day too.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Roy Williams, Hall of Fame Coach, TarHeels, Jayhawks, the whole shebang.
Joining us here, Kid is the Doug Gottlieb Show, Laughinthetirec
dot Com Studios, All Star.

Speaker 8 (22:15):
Weekend, All Star Weekend. It's also I think today Michael
Jordan's birthday. It's also my friend Natalie's birthday. I always
remember it like that, so happy to her.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Goats the two goats.

Speaker 8 (22:25):
That is right shortly after our podcast, or excuse me,
shortly after our show that our podcast.

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Speaker 2 (22:45):
I mean, is the long takeaway from All Star Weekend
that Lebron didn't play. No, okay, but that's.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
A big part of it. But no, because it was
so bad. The product itself was so bad. Like I
thought I was gonna watch basketball. I didn't think I
was gonna watch Kevin Hart and then a litle bit
of basketball. And I don't even dislike Kevin Hart. He
I know a lot of people do not like him,
find him a little bit of annoying because it's the
same stuff every time. But I just was unaware that

(23:11):
I was watching a Kevin Hart show with a little
bit of basketball in it.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
There was how much basketball?

Speaker 8 (23:18):
Maybe thirty minutes and I was sitting there for three
and a half hours.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
Freaks, Yeah, get out of my face. Why the whole
thing was bad.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
They even interrupted the championship game to honor the TNT.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Crew exactly, and I was like, why are we honor?

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Aren't they back together?

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Aren't they still doing this next year?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I actually didn't think it was. I didn't hate the
play like you did.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
But I if I'm tuning in to watch the All
Star Game, I want to watch the game. I want
to watch the players play. I don't care about Kevin
Hart shake Gil. Just Alexander was not having it when
Kevin Hart was trying to make fun of him.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
That made no sense.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
I just that's not why we tune in to watch
the NBA All Star Game. If you wanted to add
those antics, maybe to the dunk contests of skills contest
and have Kevin Hart out there making jokes, maybe, But
this is not.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
This is not why I tuned in. I had hopes why.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
I don't know there.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
I had hopes.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I want to bring Jason in on this, Jason, because
I have a thought and I just know where he's at,
and I'm curious on your thoughts as well. Jason Stuart's
our executive producer. To Manzi's point, there was a point
where Kevin Hart was introduced like he was an All Star, Yes,
like he was actually one of the players. He came
from the tunnel, they had graphics and he was there

(24:37):
the whole time.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
And then he got an award like a participation.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Trophy, which was funny because it was small, but it
was the same joke over and over.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yes, no, no, Jason loves.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
To talk politics, and not that I'm going to make
this a politics conversation, but I feel that there were
people turned off in the fall because of the number
of celebrities that were being brought out by Democrats, and
I feel that that's what this is as well, Like
how many different things are you trying to bring out
to to to fool us? And I don't want to

(25:11):
use fooling in the politics sort of way, but it's
just of like, okay, enough already, you don't understand what
my needs are. Bringing out another celebrity doesn't do anything
for me. I actually felt there was a little bit
of a parallel with that to Manti's point of here
we're bringing out why are we bringing out Kevin Hart
to spice up the NBA All Star Game or why
is it needed that Caitlin Clark's got to come out

(25:33):
from the outside. Do you find any parallels to that?

Speaker 7 (25:36):
I hadn't until you just said it. So let me
just so I'm tracking this right. So instead of delivering
the lacking substance, they're delivering these shiny objects, yes, to
distract people from the lack of substance. Correct, Yeah, I
think that's a great parallel.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
I wanted to watch the game, and you know what,
the little bit of game we did get, there were
some fun moments, there were there was a little bit
of defense, there were some block shots. But again, in
a three and a half hour broadcast, I think I
watched thirty minutes of an NBA game.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
With some of that being from rising stars who weren't
all stars.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Who weren't all stars who weren't And I had no
problem with that.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Trying a little bit more, I have a problem with it,
but that's a separate conversation.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Now, they shouldn't be there.

Speaker 8 (26:20):
I agree they should not have been there, But that
to me, wasn't the biggest problem in the product that
you provided me, you know what I'm saying, Like it
was just so much I just was.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 8 (26:30):
Like we are you realize that you have nothing, and
so you threw all of this crap at us, and
now I'm.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Just like, just cancel it all. Just cancel it.

Speaker 8 (26:40):
Bring it back in five years and make us miss it,
because that was so bad. That was worse than anything.
Bring back, I tweeted it. I take it all back,
Bring back the high scoring, no defense, bring that game back.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
I would have rather.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
We actually thought last year's was better.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
No stoppages, no stoppages, no crap all around, all this fluff.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Like I'm just like, you know, don't spit in my
face and tell me as training.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
That's not the All Star game.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
That was not an All Star game.

Speaker 8 (27:05):
That was some sort of almost like a like an
Awards show where you're like, what.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Was the point of this?

Speaker 5 (27:10):
You know, like when I watched when I watched the Oscars,
I'm like, why am I watching?

Speaker 7 (27:12):
This?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Was a pointless I the o little drama that I
felt was who was gonna hit the shot for the
shack team, if it was gonna be Dame Lillard or
Steph Curry. And then they kept taking threes when you
can get you could get two. Two's easiest pie. And
so that's what annoyed me is they wanted to make
it a three from twenty eight feet that ended it.

(27:35):
And then slowly, and this was in the rising Stars matchup.
Slowly the rising Stars started to come back and I'm like, wait,
I don't want to watch another fifteen minutes of these
guys play. You better end the game. Than finally Durant
had a donkey. Then they did end on a big shot.
But for a while they were just putts it around
if you will, yes, And.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Then when you said the shot, I thought, I was like, yeah,
like when mister Beast came out and you were like,
what is this guy going here? Like happy for the
kid who won one hundred thousand dollars by all means,
but what I was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Why am I? Why is mister Beast out here with.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I just I actually liked that part. I thought it
was I thought it was unique. I do think that
Dane gained the system. I think he purposely missed shots.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
I hope so, because guy.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, and then it went on too long.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, and so they're about to.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Wrap up's like these go.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
To commercial art seconds.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
You gotta do this, and the kid MJ's over Elo
from thirty seven feet and banks it in like it crazy,
but I did. I did find that great. But to
the point, that shouldn't save the All Star Game. We
should be tuning in the T and T to see
if a kid wins on hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
And if you tune in to put on the All
Star Game, let's say you haven't been watching it, you
tune and you see mister Beast. If I'm again, if
I am tuning in to watch the best players in
the NBA play.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
And I haven't been watching, I tune in and there's
mister Beast.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
I would be like, click next, I guess I'm not
watching the All Stars.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's not what I'm tuning in for.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
It wasn'tat when he hit the shot was.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
It's not good for him.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I was so happy for.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
The kids because he was near the buzzer. And by
the way, they didn't go to commercial thirty seconds later.
They ended up just like going on. But I agree
with your point. The fishing gear was funny in theory
when you write it on paper and you say we're
gonna give the TNT guys their fishing gear because they
send everybody else out on fishing gear.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
Sure that was. It wasn't that in the middle, Like
again it was.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
It was not only in the middle. There wasn't even
like a halftime.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
It was.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
It was during the game when it was like eleven
to one. It's really weird. And then it went on
for way longer. You're right, there were way too many stoppages.
I was not opposed to the play that we saw.
There were a lot of easy baskets. But again, it
does expect Yeah, like those sorts of things are expected.
The different of how different it was in something to

(29:56):
play for at the end, you're trying to make them win.
That's what the whole deal was in the fourth quarter
back in the day of all right, they can mess
around for three quarters, but in the fourth quarter, let's
try to win. So now the NBA is trying to
figure out a way, Well, what about if we have
three different scenarios where you've got late game situations. It
all works on paper, it doesn't work when it's on

(30:16):
the basketball court.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
I really do think it would have been better if
there weren't that many breaks in between. And I get
I get it. You're trying to keep people tuned in,
which is how.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
You broke it up.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
But put all of that antics at the end, Like
I don't they literally were making them.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
I think Jason Tatum after the game was like we had.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
To like wait twenty minutes in between like games or.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
A time out.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
So is it the NBA's problem or is it TNT's
problem for trying to make it a TV show?

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Both both, because you know a lot of people approved it.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
She's Monty Belaio. So I'm Dan Byer in for Doug
Gottlieb today. We are with you for the next three
plus hours. We're in for Covino and Rich as well.
Here on Fox Sports Radio. We hope to hear from
Doug Gottlieb. There's gonna be plenty more all star talk.
Kevin Durant had his say, Monzi's even got more to say.
Hit her up at Manzy Bolangos. You could find me

(31:06):
at Dan Byer on Fox.

Speaker 9 (31:08):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer.
She's Moncey Bolangos in for Doug on this President's Day.
That's why you didn't get any mail today. That's why
traffic a little less traffic.

Speaker 9 (31:27):
I know.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
I was like, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh, but wait till we drive home. Jason Stewart on
a holiday weekend, could be, could be, could be something else.
Isaac Low and Cronaill be here with a game and
a sex Jason Stewart's hanging out, as is Iowa. Sam,
Good Monday to you, Sam.

Speaker 11 (31:44):
Fine Monday Fine. President's Day. I had a plan to
go to the bank get some quarters. Man, I can't
do that now because it's President's Day. What do you
need quarters from my laundry? Mischelree, that's still a thing?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Just quarters?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well.

Speaker 11 (31:55):
I used to live in another building which had like
a card reader a whole app system there, and then
I moved to another place and it went.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Like back in time. So oh that's yeah, I got it.

Speaker 11 (32:04):
So I have to go to the bank to get quarters,
but not today because it's presidents.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Don't you go to like the liquor store and get change.

Speaker 11 (32:09):
I guess I could, but I like to get like
ten dollars in quarters at the time.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
But yeah, that's also the problem is you have to
buy something that is like six dollars and thirteen cents,
so you get three quarters, right, exactly anything that's six
dollars and eighty seven cents, Because then you don't even
get a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
You can't just go in with like a dollar and
be like, can I get quarters?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's not the way the world works. But that's like
you can't even go into a bank with a jar
of coins, true in southern California and be like here,
they don't. You have to roll it.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
All up, roll it up?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, how stupid is.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
That they don't want to do the work. They want
you to do the work.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, that's absurd. Yes, and it also prevents saving.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Right, it was always star.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I remember growing up and having a Yeah a coin
start taking too much?

Speaker 6 (32:57):
That's how lazy I am.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Or or without the fee you get a get do
you still have paid ten percent on a gift card?

Speaker 10 (33:04):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (33:04):
I don't know about the gift card.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I think you do.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
I think you pay the pheno matter what.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
There is something with the counting or seeing the person
come back from your jar and everybody guessing that was fun.
Not rolling all of your coins so annoying. Let's play
a game.

Speaker 9 (33:21):
Yeah, this is game time game on the doug Gottlieb show.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
We could do a whole big deal, little deal or
no deal on banking as I just revealed the game today,
because there are so many things in the banking game
that have changed over the last thirty years. It's driven
me nuts, Isaac. Good afternoon to you, Hi.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
Love, thank you.

Speaker 12 (33:47):
Good afternoon to you both, and a quick coin story
for you. Nineteen ninety seven NASCAR find driver Rusty Wallace
five thousand dollars for swearing ironically during a radio interview.
He paid the fine in pennies, like five hundred thousand
dollars worth. No, No, five hundred thousand pennies for a five

(34:11):
thousand dollars fine.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I like that, Well.

Speaker 12 (34:13):
Done, Rusty.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
All right.

Speaker 12 (34:15):
With that in mind, the game today.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
Is big deal, little deal, no deal?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
All right.

Speaker 12 (34:22):
First item of business, big deal, little deal or no deal.
That the Angels are moving Mike Trout from centerfield to
right field this season.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I will say that is a little deal. I feel
that the damage has already been done and this is
just putting masking tape on something that probably needs cement.
Not that he's completely going to break down, but if
you really wanted to get the maximum value out of
your play. You probably should have done this five years ago.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Absolutely, I think you hit it right on the head.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
You just kind of.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
Aren't using masks tae within the real problem. I also
think it's a little deal yass.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Jojo once said.

Speaker 8 (35:06):
Jojo, it's just a little too late, a little too long,
long long.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
A little too.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
I know the song.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
It's just a little.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Too late, a little too you.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Know the song, Sam, Jojo, No, you keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yes, we are very cute.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Thank you time right here.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I wish I knew the words. I'm gonna have to
go look at them up because I do know the song.
I'm just say I haven't sang it in a while.

Speaker 12 (35:39):
Sam and Jason, have you ever heard of Jojo? Because
I don't want to offend Jojo, but I haven't.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
It's been years.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
She was like a one hit, maybe two hit.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
Wonder I remember JoJo's one hit? Is that the one one? O?

Speaker 9 (35:51):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (35:51):
I remember Jojo White of the Boston Celtics, but not
this Jojo apparently on tour.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
What about Jojo potatoes? You know those I was saying them,
they're like wedges. Basically, I love a Joe. There's Mojo's.
Is that what they call him?

Speaker 12 (36:07):
Yeah, of course potatoes, yes, shaky, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
But I thought there were Joe Joe's.

Speaker 11 (36:12):
Maybe I'm wrong, like slabs of potato fried so yummy.

Speaker 12 (36:18):
Yes, couple that with the pizza in the salad bar. Anyway,
big deal, little deal or no deal that Norman Powell
likely missed out on an All Star nod due to
Lebron James very late scratch big deal, a little deal
or no deal.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
Obviously, because I'm a Clippers fan, I think it's a
really big deal. I think any player and Norman Powell
deserved it. But any player would like to have that
accolade who's never been an All Star, never been an
All Star.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
He was already there, he was in the three point
shooting contest.

Speaker 8 (36:49):
You could have said this one day before and Norman
Powell could have been in your shoes and said, there
you are in street clothes.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
Don't kill the messenger.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
By the way, Sorry, I just I'm so mad about it.

Speaker 12 (36:56):
We're giving me the evil.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I'm still mad when Jim jack And didn't make the
All Star Game thirty years ago when he was fourth
in the league in scoring. So I can understand your point.
Here's my thing with Norman Powell, and I'll agree with
you on that. I can't now not look at the
scar in betweent.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
And any picture I look at you, I want to
know is it pre scar or like when you look
at it like your eyes are just drawn to it.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
It's actually crazy how it healed. It was an elbow
to his forehead, yes, and it split open. I can't
believe that it healed like that. Like you, the skin
is very interesting. But I agree now you cannot not
see the scar.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
You could still see it.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
No, absolutely, now you cannot not see it like it
stands out correct, getting an elbow to the face.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
Poor guy man.

Speaker 12 (37:39):
That's it for this edition of Big Deal, Little Deal,
or No Deal.

Speaker 9 (37:45):
This is game time on The Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Dog got Leaves scheduled to join us next hour to
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