February 27, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug and the crew focus in on Hoosiers and 1986 in this week's version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday". Doug welcomes former 3-time World Series Champion Curt Schilling onto the show to talk about the Dodgers, ABS and all of the other major headlines around MLB. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We'll get to that in a second, but it is
always It's interesting to me how we're covering this Gene
Hackman story. So Gene Hackman dies at ninety years old,
that's a good run. Ninety five years old, even better run,
even better. There's there's some weird stuff there right where
his wife was also found dead.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I think his dog as well. Yeah, that doesn't I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I don't want to speculate. It just does not sound.
There's there's lots of ability to speculate.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm just not going to. What I will do is celebrate.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
He was an amazing actor and part of what makes
amazing and able to discuss on a sports show is
one of the greatest shows, one of the greatest sports
movies of all time. He was a main character that's Hoosiers.
Was anybody, not any of us? Not a Gene Hackman fan.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I was, and I'm not a movie guy, just because
of his role as Norman Dale. I think I went
and saw Crimson Tide because of his role as Normandale.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, I mean he was Coach Goes, I go, Coach
Stays I play.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was in so many movies and I've seen I've
seen people put out their lists. You're like, how do you, right,
how do you even go there? How do you even
try and figure out, like what his best movie was,
especially when there's so many from so long ago in
the past. He was also a guy who he was
(02:10):
old for a long time, right, but he you know me,
he's ninety five, so our whole lives, he's been a
senior citizen.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
He was Lex luthoran in Superman. Right.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
There's some other ones that were underrated, right, like I
thought Uncommon Valor was underrated.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Hoosiers obviously amazing. No Way Out.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Mississippi Burning was an incredible movie and an incredible cast.
You mentioned Crimson Tide the opening speech before they get
on the boat, and Crimson Tied that's an all timer, Like, damn,
I'll get on a I'll get on a sub and
go fight for that guy. Sure, one of my favorite movies,
Get Shorty. He was really funny, the old Hollywood producer.
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But this does feel like right up, Jason Stewart, tally right,
this is Jason, This is Jason Stewart. One oh one right,
famous acteur passes away. Only you can contextualize somebody like
this for the masses.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, and it's the basis for the year that I
chose nineteen eighty six today. But yeah, I mean you
kind of covered it. I went back to look at
all the movies today that he'd been in, and the
guy just didn't make bad choices. Like you know, almost
every actor at some point has that like year where
you're like, oh, he sold out, he needed some extra money,
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did a couple of rom coms. Gene Hackman just nailed
his choices, and he nailed the roles. He had the
high profile commercial stuff with playing Lex Luthor in Superman
and he stole every scene. There's a movie by Coppola.
He did a movie between The Godfathers and Apocalypse Now
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called The Conversation that I would encourage people to go
find French connection. He won the Oscar for and that
movie itself is known for like one of the greatest
action scenes of all time.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Done illegally in the streets of New York.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
They didn't get permits for it. It was great and
nobody got hurt, but unforgiven he comes back like what
twenty five years later, when's the second Oscar. He's just
a guy that you're right like, you tune in and
you want to watch him act, Like how many people
could you say that about? You know?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, he also wasn't typecast right.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, he did many rules.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
He played good guys, he played bad guys, he played
complicated guys.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He played a bad guy in a movie called No
Way Out. It was one of Costner's first movies and
he played an amazing like a whole president. It was great.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So that's a good way to start us off. What
we like to do is every Thursday not throw it back,
we call it. Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
I don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here, just a
quick a couple of notes about Hoosiers, released November fourteenth,
nineteen eighty six. So in this next five to ten minutes,
I want all of our listeners to go back to
nineteen eighty six. If you were around. I don't think
Sam was around yet. Year I was born. What were
you doing in nineteen eighty six? It made six million dollars,
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which isn't a huge commercial success. It was critically acclaimed,
and it was I think it just kind of launched.
I want to say it launched a bunch of sports movies.
And also nineteen eighty six was the year of the movie.
And then I'm going to leave it to Doug to
tell us all the great movies that year. But like
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it's been known as one of the greatest years of
all time for movies, and Hoosiers was a big reason
why ripg and Hackman, I want to talk about the
year in sports. Okay, the thing that sticks out to
me most about that year is the Bill Buckner error
to the Mets in the eighty six series. In the
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backstory obviously being that the Red Sox hadn't won a
World Series in many decades, this was their best team.
Remember Roger Clemens was unhittable that season.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
They had this Grereat, The Angels had him.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Oh yeah, Angels.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Had him Edison, Donny Moore.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, Donny Moore. But yeah, I remember that most about
nineteen eighty six. I followed that season so closely, and
Bill Buckner led it between his legs. Vin Scully on
the call, Dan, what sticks out for you? In nineteen
eighty six.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Nineteen eighty six, just off of a great, great year
in third grade, one of my favorite years in elementary school,
played in the majors right away in the Little League,
didn't make contact contact at the plate at all until
the last game of the year, hit a foul ball.
Otherwise it was a striker, a walk. I was desperately
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just so afraid of the baseball, just did not want
to get beaned at all. That was a portion of
eighty six. When you think of eighty six, I'm gonna
go to the obvious guys, and I'm not trying to
wedge golf in here, but there's two reasons why nineteen
eighty six was so important. Number One, it may be
home to one of the most popular majors, definitely one
(07:31):
of the most popular masters that we've ever had, and
that was Jack Nicholas's sixth the Green Jacket victory, and
it is still brought up in Lord today on his
charge on the back nine on Sunday, his putt on seventeen,
when you heard Vern Lunquist give his yes sir, which
was copied from actually sir copied I believe from Ben Wright,
(07:54):
who actually made the similar call on Jack's putt I
believe on fifteen of that so Vern was kind of
following up for that and then it ended up being
Vern's call. But was also notable about that as Greg
Norman finished his second Greg Norman completed the Saturday Slam
in nineteen eighty six, well, he won the Open Championship
that year. He also held the lead in all four
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majors on Saturday entering the final round, but then they
came home with just that one major. So when we
look back at ninety six and Greg Norman collapsing, that
was such a story because of all the other times
that Norman either collapsed or was snake bitten here. In
nineteen eighty six, Greg Norman had the lead, the fifty
(08:37):
four hole lead in all four majors. Came home with
one major championship that year, but nineteen eighty six pretty
big year in the world of golf, Sammy, I.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Want to go out to Hoosiers for a second. There's
unlike a lot of sports movies, there's a there's almost
like a sadness to the film, Like there's it doesn't
you feel good at times, and there are happy moments
in the film, but there's a lot of times where
you just feel kind of sad and gloomy. Like you
think about Dennis Hopper the father and his his his
alcohol problems and Gene Hackman kind of helps him out through.
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But there's just like sort of this sort of tension
about the film and sort of uneasiness and sadness, and
I think that's what makes it special.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Did you guys see my video I posted today?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I reposted it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I did not, so it was five It was almost
five years ago to the day.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Doug remembers this that I went because I'm such a
big Hoosiers fan. My wife and I went to not
only the Hoosier Gym, but also the town that was
depicted as Hickory in the movie. And I filmed our
drive in and it's a nice little look at Dan
Byer on Fox.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But I threw that up on Social today and.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Your your your Twitter profile picture is obviously yeah, taking
a jumper, taking a jump off there.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So here's the Here's the seminal moment in that movie
to me is the Jimmy Chitwood scene where they're where
they're voting to get rid of Gene Hackman as the coach. Right,
it's town hall and they all want to get rid
of the coach, and you know he said his little deal.
(10:14):
They all vote, they gat ried of the votes, and
then Jimmy walks in and he says the thing, it's
time for me to start playing ball. And who is
the character actor? Who's the bad guy the parent in
that movie?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Dan? Do you know? Sam?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Do you I mean Jason? Do you know he's a
character actor. He's been in a ton of movies.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
His name movie, Yeah, now we finally got rid of him, right,
he was in Major League.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I was talking about Chelsea Ross, who plays George. He's
got a very sinister looking face. I believe that's what
you're talking about. Yes, Chelsea Ross, Yep, yes, we just
get rid of him. Oh he's always an a hole
in every movie. I don't know if he's still with us,
but he was a great a hole in movies.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Sure, and he goes, uh, hey, there's one more thing.
Coach goes, I go coach days, I play, and then
somebody's like, I think.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
We need to revote Ah, but oh it's great.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The point is this, Okay, here's where you can make
it a parallel to everyday life in the NBA, especially
the NFL, and even Major League Baseball. All of these
star players are like, hey, I had nothing to do
with it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Bull.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
If Jimmy Chitwood can keep Gene Hackman gainfully employed at
Hickory Lebron, James could keep any one of his coaches
employed at any one of his teams.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And if you say I didn't I didn't have anything
to do with it. You may not have.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You may not have stuck the knife in the back,
but you saw them grabbing a knife out of the drawer,
and you could have said.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Nah, don't ship him right anyway.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
I love that scene at Chelsea Ross eighty two years old.
Oklahoma natives still with us.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Where Nola Hackman speak.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Yeah, we got a couple of clips here I believe
this is uh what so what's up, Jason?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
What as you said?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Clips from Hoosiers.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
We had a couple of one of Hackman's speeches, right.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
So this is his speech he gives, I believe to
the team before they start the state playoff, and then
we have one before they they play in the state
championship game.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
So here we go.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
There's a condition and tournament play.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
Not talk about the next step until you claim the
one in front of you.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Forget about the crowds, the size of the school, their
fancy uniforms, and remember what got you here. Focus on
the fundamentals that we've gone over time and time again,
and most important, don't get caught up thinking about winning
or losing this game. If you put your effort and
concentration into play, into your potential to.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Be the best that you can be.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't care what the scoreboard says at the end
of the game.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
In my book, we're.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Going to be winners, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
And then we go to the right before they played
for the state championship, and it's a little bit different vibe.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
We're way past big speech. Time to thank you for
the last few months. It's been very special for me.
Anybody have anything they want to say, Yeah, let's want
to listen for all the small schools never had a
chance to get here.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That music and that is a little ending there. I
got a little chill, a little tear in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I got, I got, I got look you can see
on our YouTube channel. I got goosebumps.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
It's it's just the music, the little bit of music.
I don't know what it is. It's it's got charming.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's a great movie, that's all. That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And sports movies shouldn't be just fluff and joy all
the time. They should be sad. That's why I love
Friday Night Lights. They should be you know, they should
twist your heart and you know, up and down. That's
why Hoosis is great.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Hey, Dan, do you think the love story was needed
as part of the movie?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
H not really no, but it's there. It's tolerated. I
think it's weird when he kisses her on the field. Yeah,
it's kind of out in the field. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I once heard that every movie, even like a slash
your film needs like a little bit of a romantic
like side connect a little side subplot of romance like
it just has to be built in.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
For the the other The other part of Hoo's Yours
is that is interesting? Is uh he uh? And blanking
on his character's name now, but the kid gets kicked off.
The two gets get kicked off, one of them is
brought back by his dad and all of a sudden
he reappears Buddy is uh is his name? And he
gets kicked out, but then he reappears on the team. Wait,
(14:31):
how did that happen? They cut the scenes that show
him coming back, and there actually are scenes out there
on YouTube where you can see how he ends up
getting back on the team.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Scenes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, deleted scenes. It just didn't make it there in
the in the final edit. But that was part of
the storyline that they ended up cutting out. It just
never was addressed in the actual movie.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
They need to extend to cut release that so we
can they have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, put it on TV.
My wife got the extended could DVD for me.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Did you get a chance to look at those other
movies that year, Doug.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, there's a lot of good ones.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Was that one of them?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No, I don't think so ye Little Shop, Little Shop
of Horse, Little Shop of Horse, Ferris Bueller's Day Off,
The Three Amigos, Hull Short Circuit, Howard the Duck, Crocodile, Dundee.
That's not a knife. This is a knife, right, Brighton
(15:31):
Beach Memoirs Pretty in Pink. So there's two John Hughes movies.
Pretty in Pink stand by Me.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
That's like Pez cherry flavored PEZ.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Amazing soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Also, you watch with your kids, like, I can't believe
the language they had movies back then. Uh, Gung Ho
was a I think Gung Ho is an underrated movie,
doesn't Michael Keaton click right? That was the Japanese automaker
came the United States and open Open up the big
easy Milo and Otis.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I love mylow and Otis. That was one of my
favorite kids in one of my movies as a kid.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, what else was that?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Okay? So the most commercially successful movie of the year
was Top Gun.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, Color of Money, Platoon. It was an amazing year movie.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm sorry, American Tail, Sorry Jase two anymore Aliens?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Oh better? Than the original. I think better than the
original Alien movie is Aliens with Bill Peckson got the
big guns.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Copra was the big slice of the Lone movie too. Iron
Eagle was awful.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
There was a movie that year. It was called Final
Four and it starred Purvis Ellison and it's a story
about this freshman.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Who nervis Purvis and he was never.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Nervous and then he took out Duke in the Final
Four in the championship game. And it was the Final Year.
The part of the storyline was the Final Year without
the three point line. But great movie. Final Four, nineteen
eighty six. It's filmed in Dallas.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
M.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, at the old reunion, are right, Yes, yes it
was again. This is clear sports geek stuff. Uh first
Top Gun or second Top Gun?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Jase too.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
As far as which one's better, yeah, oh no, the
first one will never be replaced. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
And as we found out in the sn L fifty,
it's not Top Gun too, it's Top Gun.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
Maverick.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
It's right, good point. But you mentioned Purvis Ellison. I
remember I remember watching a feature of Purvis and he
had a he had a walkman on and the interviewer
at the time was like, what song do you like
to shoot hoops to in your walkman on the Court?
And it was this song.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Oh what a great song keep Shine and No and
you can Always count on Me A bunch that'swood friends up.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
This is a song that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Em a man times abion yr Sir.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
There's a good Huey Lewis song. Can we just said good?
A little Huey Lewis song. I love Huey Lewis in
the news.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Stuck with You? Do you remember Stuck with You?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Stuck with You is a great one.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's a good this is it's actually probably Jason Stewart's
Sexy Hot girlfriends like theme song, right, that's how she
thinks of her life.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know I'm stuck with you.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Well, we'll bump back with stuck with You. But I
think Jason had another song he wanted to get to here.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
There was a song that came out that I think
people nowadays, if they didn't live back then, would think, oh, okay,
the biggest comedian in the world at the time did
a song. He must have It must have been a
comedy song. He must have done it ironically. But no,
Eddie Murphy did an actual serious dance tune. It was
produced by Rick James.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
It went like this, party all the time, Party all
the time, Party.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
All the time. My girl wants to party all the time.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
For whatever reason, this song just has more staying power
than it does. It does because it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's listen to these other songs from that year, okay,
True colors from Sidney, Sidney Lapper right, dancing on the ceiling, Liono, Richie, Papa,
don't preach Madonna.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
I'm not just ye, I'm not just crediting those sledge
Hammer was sledge hammer, right, but most people like Sledgehammer
because of the music video colation.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What else? Why can't this? We love Van Halen? I
believe that was Ben Hagar right, yes, the way it is.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Bruce Horne, no range, just Bruce Hornsby. He left the range,
left the range, West End Girls, Pet Shot Boys, Yes,
right in your eyes Peter Gabriel, which, of course in
your eyes was from Was that sixteen?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Was that.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Movie? Right?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah? But oh that was say anything right?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Correct?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I think? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yes, it's not sixty candles.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Uh, Billy Ocean. When the going gets tough, the tough
get going right, Living on a prayer. Now I was
I was eighty four. My point is pretty good year
in movies, pretty good year in music, pretty good year.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Ninteen ay six. Uh, let's not call that a comeback.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
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Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
And as we get ready for another baseball season, who
would be better to talk about baseball than a guy
who was six time All Star, a three time World
Series champion, he was a World Series MVP and O one.
Of course, he was two times strikeout leader, and you
know he's in the Red Sox Hall of Fame. Kurt
(21:29):
Schilling joins us here on the Doug Gotleb Show on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Kurt, how are you well?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
What's tough? Coach?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
How you brother?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
I'm good man, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I need healthy players in a win.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But other than that, as a guy who was part
of the I would say most glorious era of baseball
my lifetime. Right when you were part of the Red
Sox and you had the incredible come back and win
the World Series. But back then it was the Yankees
spending the Red Sox spending as well. There's a lot
of talk in the office season over how much the
Dodgers have spent after already going out and getting show
(22:04):
hey less summer. What do you think of how the
Dodgers have handled success?
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I want to be a Dodger he is I mean,
come on, well, listen. One thing I know about sports
is that the highest payroll, well, it certainly correlates to
some success, it never guarantees anything in a sport where
the schedule is really a war of attrition, even more so,
(22:31):
I mean, you know right now, and we do this
every year, right, the Dodgers have supplanted the Yankees, says,
the most hated franchise in sports, and all the things
go with that. So and every sport needs an art filling,
right yeah. I mean in nineteen ninety nine, nobody know
who Tom Brady the Patriots were. Twenty years later, everybody
(22:53):
hates their guns. What changed? Well, they won and now
we're watching it. You know, you see what the chiefs.
But Baseball's different because of the lack of a salary
cap and all the things to go with that, so
people can spend what they want. And at the end
of the day, as a former player and a player
rep and someone who set out missed and lost money
(23:14):
because we fought for rights, I'm happy for him. But
you know, this plays out every year, and if it
wasn't the Yankees, it would be somebody else but the Yankees.
And I think what happened was there was the shark
got the jumped a little bit in the sense that
the Yankee or the Dodgers just did some insane stuff.
(23:36):
But weren't they saying this about the Mets two years ago?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And yeah, Padres as well, right, I mean it doesn't
and mun.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Have a World Series ring, so boohoo, you know, I mean,
it doesn't guarantee thing. I I think if you're if
you're living in Detroit, you're pissed, uh and rightly so.
But but I got to tell you, Doug, and this
is something I think you probably have seen throughout sports.
If you're if you're a fan of a team and
(24:05):
you have a bad five year run, you can look
at players and coaches and personnel changes and draft strategies
and trades and whatnot. You have a bad ten year run,
your owner sucks. Period. The only content in these things
is the ownership of these groups, right, And when a
team is continually bad, it's because of bad ownership, and
(24:27):
can team's continually good, it's usually the same thing. And
I don't think this is any different. I think, you
know the mc courts and how they screwed that franchise up.
They got this thing fixed pretty quickly in LA. And
you know, is it bad for baseball? I don't think
fewer people are going to go to the game. In fact,
to think more are because everybody's going to want to
see that Dodger roster.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Okay, aout? How about this?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Obviously you got hurt the next year after you guys
won the World Series. And I know the Dodgers won
the COVID World Series, but most people don't take that
to mean what last year actually meant to the Dodgers?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
What's that You're like, though, when there's so much build up,
and granted it wasn't you know, the Curse of the Bambino.
It wasn't even the White Sox who beat you the
next year, right, and they had their own purse. But
what's it like that next year when you've accomplished a
goal that that was the sole focus of every fan,
every player. I remember the frontal life. You finally get there,
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what's it like that next year?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The next year? It has everything to do with the
with the personalities in the clubhoffs and again I'm talking
to the things that you know, you have to have
the right people. And it's one of the beauties of sabermetrics.
Sabermetrics can't define leadership and it can't quantify things that
you know as a coach matter. And if you if
(25:43):
you go back and look at oh for and you
look at you know, theo Epstein and moneyball and saber metrics,
and they were huge fans of it and they believed it.
But what they also had there's a there's a there's
a middle ground for everything, and sabermetrics is certainly one
of those things. You know it works, but it's not
a one hundred percent infallible If I don't think it can,
I don't think you can win in the postseason with
(26:03):
saber metrics baseball at all. And I think tamping Blake Smell,
Blake Smell getting pulled prove that. But the fact of
the matter is, you got you got to have a
middle ground. You got to have agreement, and we didn't
have well we had we had some injuries, and the
White Sox did what the White Sox did. But you've
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got to have buy in from the players, and you
have to have some somebody leaning on the group in
the room.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
And it can't be the manager. I don't think, you know,
Terry's very even keeled than he was. And you know,
we didn't come back in an oh four or five
and say, oh my god, we have something to defend.
We knew what we had to do. Some players were
better for it, some players march and I don't think
we were a better team in all five by any
stretch than we were in four.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Stuck got leave show here on Fox Sports Radio. Kurt
Schilling is our guest. Six time All Stars, three time
World Series Champion, World Series MVP is kind of to
join us. If we're getting closer and closer, uh to
first pitch in Major League Baseball. Okay, if you were
going to advise show, hey, would you advise him to
come back and pitch?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You know, one of the challenging things about somebody that's
that good and I'm giving you a political punden answer
rather than he yes. So I don't. I don't his
makeup I think is that is such that he's pitching
like like, I don't think this was even a thought
for him. Why would I not pitch? Right? I mean,
(27:36):
because I don't know if I'm the Dodgers how I
feel about it. But you got to remember something. We're
not talking about throwing a fourth starter out there. We're
talking about throwing the best pitcher on the staff when
he's out there, and that's a pretty talented staff. So
I don't I don't know if we ultimately, ultimately here's
(27:56):
the answer to the question. Right, you and I know this.
It doesn't matter. What you want is what the player wants.
If he doesn't want to pitch, then he's not going.
He wouldn't try. And if he wants to pitch, are
you truly going to stop him other than just saying, hey,
we're not going to give you the ball? Well, then
you know what, you create a whole other situation that
nobody wants to deal with.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Kurk chillings our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what about the Yankees, what's
your assessment of their roster trying to trying to fix
what went wrong last year in the World Series.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well, what went wrong was they had an inning you
can't have. They showed you the defense matters, and they
showed you that your weakest link sometimes will come and
bite you in the ass at the worst possible time.
I don't know that they were fixing anything. They lost
the best hitter in baseball, or let's just say, one
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of the four or five generational talents in baseball. Sure,
so I think they made some great signs. I like
what I've always been a Cashman fan because I think
he's worked under that that family crest for a long time,
and he thinks he's done an amazing job. You know,
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they lost Sono, and you know they were in on
everything else obviously, because they always are. They're in a
tough division. I think, you know, the big question this
year becomes I know, I know, I saw yesterday Stanton's
up in New York looking He's at the doctors trying
to figure out something's wrong. So you can, you know,
what are you looking at? One hundred games from from
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Gen Carlo this year. But the big question becomes, how
is Aaron Judge going to react to not having won?
So hit behind him? Now, Aaron Judge was one of
the best hitters on the planet and in existence before
so to join the team, so there's reason to expect
him to be you know, it's going to come down
to how the line of pits around him. But you know,
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for me, I'm biased, I know it, but everything comes
down to pitching.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Speaking of skins, I'm gonna say, Skans you go, I don't.
I don't need to lead you at all.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
I would pay to watch him. Uh. Few guys, he's
he's I don't think people have seen anything like this,
uh in their lifetime. And that that's one of the
things about baseball right now, is that that there's so
much talent out there that nobody's ever seen before. In
my opinion, Paul Skiing is a special. Now I'm going
to give him the Justin Berlander bump, because anybody that
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talented does not have a girlfriend that that hot. But
but he is, he is a special and so I'm
a little biased. I grew up a pirate fan. I'm
watching him pitch. I gotta tell you, here's my thing.
And I said this when he came up. And I
mean no disrespect because he is a generational talent, but
he's a max effort guy. And that scares me because
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the human body is not conditioned to throw a baseball,
and more effort you put into it, the harder it
is on your body.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Now.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
I know he works his butt off. I know he
takes care of his arm, but sometimes there are things
that just don't matter. I fear it. And I said, hey,
four hundred innings was my over under. He was going
to have Tommy John before he pitched four hundred innings
in the big leagues. I hope I'm wrong because he
is good for the game. He is a must watch.
(31:24):
But you know, go back remember Kerry Woods, right, I mean,
you remember Mark Bryer, remember, I mean. And it's a
tough world too, and I you know, there are certain
things that you know, you know in life. If somebody
would ask you about, you know, basketball and a specific
piece of basketball, you could answer it and you in
(31:45):
your mind, you'd think, I know this as well as
anybody alive. I understand pitching, I think as well as
anybody has ever lived. And when Mark Pryor came out
of college and people talk about him having perfect mechanics,
and I saw him throw one pitch and went, those
are the worst mechanics I've ever seen. In a sense.
As a short arm I'm watching guys who people talk
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about and I'm thinking to myself, that's not true, that's
not even. And so when you see Paul Skins throwing,
I gotta tell you, it's the reason we're watching Tommy
John multiply by factor of ten unfortunately. But again, I'm
not hoping this happens. I want him to stay healthy.
I just think being a max effort guy is going
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to end up being a reason that physically it's going
to be very challenging for this guy to stay healthy.
And I hope that I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That's so funny because prior I remember watching broadcasts, everybody
say prior perfect mechanics, and that all of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Oh yes, dude, it's mechanics were literally the opposite of perfect.
He was a short arming guy who was a dart thrower,
and that just isn't healthy. Not to mention impossible to command.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
Other than that, Missus Lincoln, how was the show? Is
that what you're telling me?
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Excuse me? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, abs, okay, the idea of essentially eliminating the umpire
in these close balls and strikes.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
What's your feeling on it.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Well, here's what we know, right. We talked about the
replay system in first base. Come to find out umps
are missing fifty percent of the calls, right. I mean,
that's not a marginal number if the quote unquote best
in the world, and major g umpires are by no
stretch the best in the world. Let's just be clear.
But if we're defining the best in the world, we're
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only getting it right fifty percent of the time. You're
talking about and here's where I probably separate myself. You're
talking about You're not talking about sport, talking about eleven
billion dollars a year business in which guys are making
forty fifty sixty million dollars a year. I don't want mistakes.
I don't want automations. You either, you know the the
(34:06):
challenge system. I like, you know, they sped it up
as a pitcher. Of sure, I'm biased. I want every
strike to be called a strike, and if some balls
can get called strikes, cool, But for me, I was
always like I felt like I got more. You know,
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they remember the Greg Maddix. Heial he gets pitches that
aren't on the plate. But the fact of the matter
was Greg Maddox was Picasso and if he could throw
the ball six inches off the plate and get a strike,
he would. Hell I did. But but the ABS system,
to me, is going to end if it's truly enforced.
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I'm telling you this right now, and I'm okay with
this being a hot dache. If the rule book strike
zone is enforced by an electronics system, you will never
see a three hundred hitter again, no chance.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Because it's it's it's what bottom of letters to the
top of the upper knees, which is not art.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Cards, armpit to the knees, follow the knees. If you
give me that much space to throw the ball ninety
five miles an hour, no, sorry, you can't defend it.
It's it's undefendable, and uh you know so. Uh but
but I don't know that we're going to go there,
(35:28):
you know, I I know. I saw sures are called
like challenge to yesterday and got beat on both of them.
Now he hates the system, So it's gonna be it's
gonna be funny to watch, but it's something that you know, Listen,
I thought the wild card was a stupid idea, turned
out to be a genius. I've thought a lot of
these ideas. The only one I think that's going to
(35:48):
have a lasting impression that I think may change because
of the impact will be the stolen the pickoff rules.
I think that's broken his health.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
How would you adjust it?
Speaker 8 (35:59):
What?
Speaker 7 (36:00):
First of all, you can't limit pickoff throws, can you?
Ricky Henderson would have stolen four hundred bases if you
If you limit pickoff throws, If I come set and
the runner knows I can't throw over like okay, game over,
and it's gonna and I say this with all the respects,
it's going to cheapen the stolen base. Sure, yes, right,
(36:22):
but it's also I don't think it does anything. I
get it right. They want to change the game, pace
of the game, But five throw pickoff throws to first
don't make a game go from two to two and
a half hours. That's just stupid. And I think that
that rule is going to like I said, I think
you look at the stolen base. I think you're going
to see guys routinely hit one hundred stolen bases easily
(36:42):
now and and and get into the stratosphere with it.
And I think that that needs that just that's just
a dumb rule.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Kurt, Listen, clearly your your battling little sniffles. We don't
want to take up any more your time.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
You know what it is, sorry, Doug. You know what
this is spring training? Every spring training when it started
I would call up and sneeze and sound like an idiot.
And apparently today is the first day of spring training
in my retirement. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Well, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You need to get it like an NIL deal, like
a sponsorship deal with like Clariton or something. Right, it
does allergies out like Kirk Chillington.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Kirk chilling joins us on.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
The behalf of a legra and I got it. I
gotta tell you. I wanted to ask you personally. I
want to I want to coach. I love coaching. I
love teaching young kids. I want to do college. I
want to do a college program, and I'm wondering what
it's like. You know, is there anything like it was
when we grew up? Or is it a different world
now with than IL.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
What I think?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It depends on level. I do think that it's a
different world in regards to NIL. But I think when
you strip it down your knowledge, like the kids will
eat it up. There's there's still kids, they still desperately
want to learn. The difference is you are going to
get some that are simply there for six month. I'm
(38:00):
going to try and get a check somewhere else. Let's
let's let's have this discussion next time that this is
a great tease so I can have you back on
because your baseball knowledge is beyond approach and I appreciate
joining us.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Kurt, all right, dog, you take care of yourself, my friend.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
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call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We'll get to that in a second, but it is
always It's interesting to me how we're covering this Gene
Hackman story. So Gene Hackman dies at ninety years old,
that's a good run. Ninety five years old, even better run,
even better. There's there's some weird stuff there right where
his wife was also found dead.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I think his dog as well. Yeah, that doesn't I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I don't want to speculate. It just does not sound.
There's there's lots of ability to speculate.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm just not going to. What I will do is celebrate.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
He was an amazing actor and part of what makes
amazing and able to discuss on a sports show is
one of the greatest shows, one of the greatest sports
movies of all time. He was a main character that's Hoosiers.
Was anybody, not any of us? Not a Gene Hackman fan.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I was, and I'm not a movie guy, just because
of his role as Norman Dale. I think I went
and saw Crimson Tide because of his role as Normandale.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, I mean he was Coach Goes, I go, Coach
Stays I play.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He was in so many movies and I've seen I've
seen people put out their lists. You're like, how do you, right,
how do you even go there? How do you even
try and figure out, like what his best movie was,
especially when there's so many from so long ago in
the past. He was also a guy who he was
(02:10):
old for a long time, right, but he you know me,
he's ninety five, so our whole lives, he's been a
senior citizen.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
He was Lex luthoran in Superman. Right.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
There's some other ones that were underrated, right, like I
thought Uncommon Valor was underrated.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Hoosiers obviously amazing. No Way Out.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Mississippi Burning was an incredible movie and an incredible cast.
You mentioned Crimson Tide the opening speech before they get
on the boat, and Crimson Tied that's an all timer, Like, damn,
I'll get on a I'll get on a sub and
go fight for that guy. Sure, one of my favorite movies,
Get Shorty. He was really funny, the old Hollywood producer.
(02:57):
But this does feel like right up, Jason Stewart, tally right,
this is Jason, This is Jason Stewart. One oh one right,
famous acteur passes away. Only you can contextualize somebody like
this for the masses.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, and it's the basis for the year that I
chose nineteen eighty six today. But yeah, I mean you
kind of covered it. I went back to look at
all the movies today that he'd been in, and the
guy just didn't make bad choices. Like you know, almost
every actor at some point has that like year where
you're like, oh, he sold out, he needed some extra money,
(03:35):
did a couple of rom coms. Gene Hackman just nailed
his choices, and he nailed the roles. He had the
high profile commercial stuff with playing Lex Luthor in Superman
and he stole every scene. There's a movie by Coppola.
He did a movie between The Godfathers and Apocalypse Now
(03:55):
called The Conversation that I would encourage people to go
find French connection. He won the Oscar for and that
movie itself is known for like one of the greatest
action scenes of all time.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Done illegally in the streets of New York.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
They didn't get permits for it. It was great and
nobody got hurt, but unforgiven he comes back like what
twenty five years later, when's the second Oscar. He's just
a guy that you're right like, you tune in and
you want to watch him act, Like how many people
could you say that about? You know?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, he also wasn't typecast right.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, he did many rules.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
He played good guys, he played bad guys, he played
complicated guys.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
He played a bad guy in a movie called No
Way Out. It was one of Costner's first movies and
he played an amazing like a whole president. It was great.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So that's a good way to start us off. What
we like to do is every Thursday not throw it back,
we call it. Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
I don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here, just a
quick a couple of notes about Hoosiers, released November fourteenth,
nineteen eighty six. So in this next five to ten minutes,
I want all of our listeners to go back to
nineteen eighty six. If you were around. I don't think
Sam was around yet. Year I was born. What were
you doing in nineteen eighty six? It made six million dollars,
(05:32):
which isn't a huge commercial success. It was critically acclaimed,
and it was I think it just kind of launched.
I want to say it launched a bunch of sports movies.
And also nineteen eighty six was the year of the movie.
And then I'm going to leave it to Doug to
tell us all the great movies that year. But like
(05:55):
it's been known as one of the greatest years of
all time for movies, and Hoosiers was a big reason
why ripg and Hackman, I want to talk about the
year in sports. Okay, the thing that sticks out to
me most about that year is the Bill Buckner error
to the Mets in the eighty six series. In the
(06:15):
backstory obviously being that the Red Sox hadn't won a
World Series in many decades, this was their best team.
Remember Roger Clemens was unhittable that season.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
They had this Grereat, The Angels had him.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Oh yeah, Angels.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Had him Edison, Donny Moore.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, Donny Moore. But yeah, I remember that most about
nineteen eighty six. I followed that season so closely, and
Bill Buckner led it between his legs. Vin Scully on
the call, Dan, what sticks out for you? In nineteen
eighty six.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Nineteen eighty six, just off of a great, great year
in third grade, one of my favorite years in elementary school,
played in the majors right away in the Little League,
didn't make contact contact at the plate at all until
the last game of the year, hit a foul ball.
Otherwise it was a striker, a walk. I was desperately
(07:08):
just so afraid of the baseball, just did not want
to get beaned at all. That was a portion of
eighty six. When you think of eighty six, I'm gonna
go to the obvious guys, and I'm not trying to
wedge golf in here, but there's two reasons why nineteen
eighty six was so important. Number One, it may be
home to one of the most popular majors, definitely one
(07:31):
of the most popular masters that we've ever had, and
that was Jack Nicholas's sixth the Green Jacket victory, and
it is still brought up in Lord today on his
charge on the back nine on Sunday, his putt on seventeen,
when you heard Vern Lunquist give his yes sir, which
was copied from actually sir copied I believe from Ben Wright,
(07:54):
who actually made the similar call on Jack's putt I
believe on fifteen of that so Vern was kind of
following up for that and then it ended up being
Vern's call. But was also notable about that as Greg
Norman finished his second Greg Norman completed the Saturday Slam
in nineteen eighty six, well, he won the Open Championship
that year. He also held the lead in all four
(08:17):
majors on Saturday entering the final round, but then they
came home with just that one major. So when we
look back at ninety six and Greg Norman collapsing, that
was such a story because of all the other times
that Norman either collapsed or was snake bitten here. In
nineteen eighty six, Greg Norman had the lead, the fifty
(08:37):
four hole lead in all four majors. Came home with
one major championship that year, but nineteen eighty six pretty
big year in the world of golf, Sammy, I.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Want to go out to Hoosiers for a second. There's
unlike a lot of sports movies, there's a there's almost
like a sadness to the film, Like there's it doesn't
you feel good at times, and there are happy moments
in the film, but there's a lot of times where
you just feel kind of sad and gloomy. Like you
think about Dennis Hopper the father and his his his
alcohol problems and Gene Hackman kind of helps him out through.
(09:12):
But there's just like sort of this sort of tension
about the film and sort of uneasiness and sadness, and
I think that's what makes it special.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Did you guys see my video I posted today?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I reposted it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I did not, so it was five It was almost
five years ago to the day.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Doug remembers this that I went because I'm such a
big Hoosiers fan. My wife and I went to not
only the Hoosier Gym, but also the town that was
depicted as Hickory in the movie. And I filmed our
drive in and it's a nice little look at Dan
Byer on Fox.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But I threw that up on Social today and.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Your your your Twitter profile picture is obviously yeah, taking
a jumper, taking a jump off there.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So here's the Here's the seminal moment in that movie
to me is the Jimmy Chitwood scene where they're where
they're voting to get rid of Gene Hackman as the coach. Right,
it's town hall and they all want to get rid
of the coach, and you know he said his little deal.
(10:14):
They all vote, they gat ried of the votes, and
then Jimmy walks in and he says the thing, it's
time for me to start playing ball. And who is
the character actor? Who's the bad guy the parent in
that movie?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Dan? Do you know? Sam?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Do you I mean Jason? Do you know he's a
character actor. He's been in a ton of movies.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
His name movie, Yeah, now we finally got rid of him, right,
he was in Major League.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I was talking about Chelsea Ross, who plays George. He's
got a very sinister looking face. I believe that's what
you're talking about. Yes, Chelsea Ross, Yep, yes, we just
get rid of him. Oh he's always an a hole
in every movie. I don't know if he's still with us,
but he was a great a hole in movies.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Sure, and he goes, uh, hey, there's one more thing.
Coach goes, I go coach days, I play, and then
somebody's like, I think.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
We need to revote Ah, but oh it's great.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The point is this, Okay, here's where you can make
it a parallel to everyday life in the NBA, especially
the NFL, and even Major League Baseball. All of these
star players are like, hey, I had nothing to do
with it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Bull.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
If Jimmy Chitwood can keep Gene Hackman gainfully employed at
Hickory Lebron, James could keep any one of his coaches
employed at any one of his teams.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And if you say I didn't I didn't have anything
to do with it. You may not have.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You may not have stuck the knife in the back,
but you saw them grabbing a knife out of the drawer,
and you could have said.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Nah, don't ship him right anyway.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
I love that scene at Chelsea Ross eighty two years old.
Oklahoma natives still with us.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Where Nola Hackman speak.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Yeah, we got a couple of clips here I believe
this is uh what so what's up, Jason?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
What as you said?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Clips from Hoosiers.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
We had a couple of one of Hackman's speeches, right.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
So this is his speech he gives, I believe to
the team before they start the state playoff, and then
we have one before they they play in the state
championship game.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
So here we go.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
There's a condition and tournament play.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
Not talk about the next step until you claim the
one in front of you.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Forget about the crowds, the size of the school, their
fancy uniforms, and remember what got you here. Focus on
the fundamentals that we've gone over time and time again,
and most important, don't get caught up thinking about winning
or losing this game. If you put your effort and
concentration into play, into your potential to.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Be the best that you can be.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't care what the scoreboard says at the end
of the game.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
In my book, we're.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Going to be winners, all right.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
And then we go to the right before they played
for the state championship, and it's a little bit different vibe.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
We're way past big speech. Time to thank you for
the last few months. It's been very special for me.
Anybody have anything they want to say, Yeah, let's want
to listen for all the small schools never had a
chance to get here.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That music and that is a little ending there. I
got a little chill, a little tear in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I got, I got, I got look you can see
on our YouTube channel. I got goosebumps.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
It's it's just the music, the little bit of music.
I don't know what it is. It's it's got charming.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's a great movie, that's all. That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And sports movies shouldn't be just fluff and joy all
the time. They should be sad. That's why I love
Friday Night Lights. They should be you know, they should
twist your heart and you know, up and down. That's
why Hoosis is great.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Hey, Dan, do you think the love story was needed
as part of the movie?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
H not really no, but it's there. It's tolerated. I
think it's weird when he kisses her on the field. Yeah,
it's kind of out in the field. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I once heard that every movie, even like a slash
your film needs like a little bit of a romantic
like side connect a little side subplot of romance like
it just has to be built in.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
For the the other The other part of Hoo's Yours
is that is interesting? Is uh he uh? And blanking
on his character's name now, but the kid gets kicked off.
The two gets get kicked off, one of them is
brought back by his dad and all of a sudden
he reappears Buddy is uh is his name? And he
gets kicked out, but then he reappears on the team. Wait,
(14:31):
how did that happen? They cut the scenes that show
him coming back, and there actually are scenes out there
on YouTube where you can see how he ends up
getting back on the team.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Scenes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, deleted scenes. It just didn't make it there in
the in the final edit. But that was part of
the storyline that they ended up cutting out. It just
never was addressed in the actual movie.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
They need to extend to cut release that so we
can they have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, put it on TV.
My wife got the extended could DVD for me.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Did you get a chance to look at those other
movies that year, Doug.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, there's a lot of good ones.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Was that one of them?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No, I don't think so ye Little Shop, Little Shop
of Horse, Little Shop of Horse, Ferris Bueller's Day Off,
The Three Amigos, Hull Short Circuit, Howard the Duck, Crocodile, Dundee.
That's not a knife. This is a knife, right, Brighton
(15:31):
Beach Memoirs Pretty in Pink. So there's two John Hughes movies.
Pretty in Pink stand by Me.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
That's like Pez cherry flavored PEZ.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Amazing soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Also, you watch with your kids, like, I can't believe
the language they had movies back then. Uh, Gung Ho
was a I think Gung Ho is an underrated movie,
doesn't Michael Keaton click right? That was the Japanese automaker
came the United States and open Open up the big
easy Milo and Otis.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I love mylow and Otis. That was one of my
favorite kids in one of my movies as a kid.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, what else was that?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Okay? So the most commercially successful movie of the year
was Top Gun.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, Color of Money, Platoon. It was an amazing year movie.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm sorry, American Tail, Sorry Jase two anymore Aliens?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Oh better? Than the original. I think better than the
original Alien movie is Aliens with Bill Peckson got the
big guns.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Copra was the big slice of the Lone movie too. Iron
Eagle was awful.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
There was a movie that year. It was called Final
Four and it starred Purvis Ellison and it's a story
about this freshman.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Who nervis Purvis and he was never.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Nervous and then he took out Duke in the Final
Four in the championship game. And it was the Final Year.
The part of the storyline was the Final Year without
the three point line. But great movie. Final Four, nineteen
eighty six. It's filmed in Dallas.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
M.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, at the old reunion, are right, Yes, yes it
was again. This is clear sports geek stuff. Uh first
Top Gun or second Top Gun?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Jase too.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
As far as which one's better, yeah, oh no, the
first one will never be replaced. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
And as we found out in the sn L fifty,
it's not Top Gun too, it's Top Gun.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
Maverick.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
It's right, good point. But you mentioned Purvis Ellison. I
remember I remember watching a feature of Purvis and he
had a he had a walkman on and the interviewer
at the time was like, what song do you like
to shoot hoops to in your walkman on the Court?
And it was this song.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Oh what a great song keep Shine and No and
you can Always count on Me A bunch that'swood friends up.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
This is a song that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Em a man times abion yr Sir.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
There's a good Huey Lewis song. Can we just said good?
A little Huey Lewis song. I love Huey Lewis in
the news.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Stuck with You? Do you remember Stuck with You?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Stuck with You is a great one.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's a good this is it's actually probably Jason Stewart's
Sexy Hot girlfriends like theme song, right, that's how she
thinks of her life.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know I'm stuck with you.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Well, we'll bump back with stuck with You. But I
think Jason had another song he wanted to get to here.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
There was a song that came out that I think
people nowadays, if they didn't live back then, would think, oh, okay,
the biggest comedian in the world at the time did
a song. He must have It must have been a
comedy song. He must have done it ironically. But no,
Eddie Murphy did an actual serious dance tune. It was
produced by Rick James.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
It went like this, party all the time, Party all
the time, Party.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
All the time. My girl wants to party all the time.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
For whatever reason, this song just has more staying power
than it does. It does because it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's listen to these other songs from that year, okay,
True colors from Sidney, Sidney Lapper right, dancing on the ceiling, Liono, Richie, Papa,
don't preach Madonna.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
I'm not just ye, I'm not just crediting those sledge
Hammer was sledge hammer, right, but most people like Sledgehammer
because of the music video colation.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What else? Why can't this? We love Van Halen? I
believe that was Ben Hagar right, yes, the way it is.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Bruce Horne, no range, just Bruce Hornsby. He left the range,
left the range, West End Girls, Pet Shot Boys, Yes,
right in your eyes Peter Gabriel, which, of course in
your eyes was from Was that sixteen?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Was that.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Movie? Right?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah? But oh that was say anything right?
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Correct?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I think? Thank you?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yes, it's not sixty candles.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Uh, Billy Ocean. When the going gets tough, the tough
get going right, Living on a prayer. Now I was
I was eighty four. My point is pretty good year
in movies, pretty good year in music, pretty good year.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Ninteen ay six. Uh, let's not call that a comeback.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
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Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
And as we get ready for another baseball season, who
would be better to talk about baseball than a guy
who was six time All Star, a three time World
Series champion, he was a World Series MVP and O one.
Of course, he was two times strikeout leader, and you
know he's in the Red Sox Hall of Fame. Kurt
(21:29):
Schilling joins us here on the Doug Gotleb Show on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Kurt, how are you well?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
What's tough? Coach?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
How you brother?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
I'm good man, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I need healthy players in a win.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But other than that, as a guy who was part
of the I would say most glorious era of baseball
my lifetime. Right when you were part of the Red
Sox and you had the incredible come back and win
the World Series. But back then it was the Yankees
spending the Red Sox spending as well. There's a lot
of talk in the office season over how much the
Dodgers have spent after already going out and getting show
(22:04):
hey less summer. What do you think of how the
Dodgers have handled success?
Speaker 7 (22:09):
I want to be a Dodger he is I mean,
come on, well, listen. One thing I know about sports
is that the highest payroll, well, it certainly correlates to
some success, it never guarantees anything in a sport where
the schedule is really a war of attrition, even more so,
(22:31):
I mean, you know right now, and we do this
every year, right, the Dodgers have supplanted the Yankees, says,
the most hated franchise in sports, and all the things
go with that. So and every sport needs an art filling,
right yeah. I mean in nineteen ninety nine, nobody know
who Tom Brady the Patriots were. Twenty years later, everybody
(22:53):
hates their guns. What changed? Well, they won and now
we're watching it. You know, you see what the chiefs.
But Baseball's different because of the lack of a salary
cap and all the things to go with that, so
people can spend what they want. And at the end
of the day, as a former player and a player
rep and someone who set out missed and lost money
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because we fought for rights, I'm happy for him. But
you know, this plays out every year, and if it
wasn't the Yankees, it would be somebody else but the Yankees.
And I think what happened was there was the shark
got the jumped a little bit in the sense that
the Yankee or the Dodgers just did some insane stuff.
(23:36):
But weren't they saying this about the Mets two years ago?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And yeah, Padres as well, right, I mean it doesn't
and mun.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Have a World Series ring, so boohoo, you know, I mean,
it doesn't guarantee thing. I I think if you're if
you're living in Detroit, you're pissed, uh and rightly so.
But but I got to tell you, Doug, and this
is something I think you probably have seen throughout sports.
If you're if you're a fan of a team and
(24:05):
you have a bad five year run, you can look
at players and coaches and personnel changes and draft strategies
and trades and whatnot. You have a bad ten year run,
your owner sucks. Period. The only content in these things
is the ownership of these groups, right, And when a
team is continually bad, it's because of bad ownership, and
(24:27):
can team's continually good, it's usually the same thing. And
I don't think this is any different. I think, you
know the mc courts and how they screwed that franchise up.
They got this thing fixed pretty quickly in LA. And
you know, is it bad for baseball? I don't think
fewer people are going to go to the game. In fact,
to think more are because everybody's going to want to
see that Dodger roster.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Okay, aout? How about this?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Obviously you got hurt the next year after you guys
won the World Series. And I know the Dodgers won
the COVID World Series, but most people don't take that
to mean what last year actually meant to the Dodgers?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
What's that You're like, though, when there's so much build up,
and granted it wasn't you know, the Curse of the Bambino.
It wasn't even the White Sox who beat you the
next year, right, and they had their own purse. But
what's it like that next year when you've accomplished a
goal that that was the sole focus of every fan,
every player. I remember the frontal life. You finally get there,
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what's it like that next year?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The next year? It has everything to do with the
with the personalities in the clubhoffs and again I'm talking
to the things that you know, you have to have
the right people. And it's one of the beauties of sabermetrics.
Sabermetrics can't define leadership and it can't quantify things that
you know as a coach matter. And if you if
(25:43):
you go back and look at oh for and you
look at you know, theo Epstein and moneyball and saber metrics,
and they were huge fans of it and they believed it.
But what they also had there's a there's a there's
a middle ground for everything, and sabermetrics is certainly one
of those things. You know it works, but it's not
a one hundred percent infallible If I don't think it can,
I don't think you can win in the postseason with
(26:03):
saber metrics baseball at all. And I think tamping Blake Smell,
Blake Smell getting pulled prove that. But the fact of
the matter is, you got you got to have a
middle ground. You got to have agreement, and we didn't
have well we had we had some injuries, and the
White Sox did what the White Sox did. But you've
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got to have buy in from the players, and you
have to have some somebody leaning on the group in
the room.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
And it can't be the manager. I don't think, you know,
Terry's very even keeled than he was. And you know,
we didn't come back in an oh four or five
and say, oh my god, we have something to defend.
We knew what we had to do. Some players were
better for it, some players march and I don't think
we were a better team in all five by any
stretch than we were in four.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Stuck got leave show here on Fox Sports Radio. Kurt
Schilling is our guest. Six time All Stars, three time
World Series Champion, World Series MVP is kind of to
join us. If we're getting closer and closer, uh to
first pitch in Major League Baseball. Okay, if you were
going to advise show, hey, would you advise him to
come back and pitch?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You know, one of the challenging things about somebody that's
that good and I'm giving you a political punden answer
rather than he yes. So I don't. I don't his
makeup I think is that is such that he's pitching
like like, I don't think this was even a thought
for him. Why would I not pitch? Right? I mean,
(27:36):
because I don't know if I'm the Dodgers how I
feel about it. But you got to remember something. We're
not talking about throwing a fourth starter out there. We're
talking about throwing the best pitcher on the staff when
he's out there, and that's a pretty talented staff. So
I don't I don't know if we ultimately, ultimately here's
(27:56):
the answer to the question. Right, you and I know this.
It doesn't matter. What you want is what the player wants.
If he doesn't want to pitch, then he's not going.
He wouldn't try. And if he wants to pitch, are
you truly going to stop him other than just saying, hey,
we're not going to give you the ball? Well, then
you know what, you create a whole other situation that
nobody wants to deal with.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Kurk chillings our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what about the Yankees, what's
your assessment of their roster trying to trying to fix
what went wrong last year in the World Series.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well, what went wrong was they had an inning you
can't have. They showed you the defense matters, and they
showed you that your weakest link sometimes will come and
bite you in the ass at the worst possible time.
I don't know that they were fixing anything. They lost
the best hitter in baseball, or let's just say, one
(28:54):
of the four or five generational talents in baseball. Sure,
so I think they made some great signs. I like
what I've always been a Cashman fan because I think
he's worked under that that family crest for a long time,
and he thinks he's done an amazing job. You know,
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they lost Sono, and you know they were in on
everything else obviously, because they always are. They're in a
tough division. I think, you know, the big question this
year becomes I know, I know, I saw yesterday Stanton's
up in New York looking He's at the doctors trying
to figure out something's wrong. So you can, you know,
what are you looking at? One hundred games from from
(29:35):
Gen Carlo this year. But the big question becomes, how
is Aaron Judge going to react to not having won?
So hit behind him? Now, Aaron Judge was one of
the best hitters on the planet and in existence before
so to join the team, so there's reason to expect
him to be you know, it's going to come down
to how the line of pits around him. But you know,
(29:56):
for me, I'm biased, I know it, but everything comes
down to pitching.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Speaking of skins, I'm gonna say, Skans you go, I don't.
I don't need to lead you at all.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
I would pay to watch him. Uh. Few guys, he's
he's I don't think people have seen anything like this,
uh in their lifetime. And that that's one of the
things about baseball right now, is that that there's so
much talent out there that nobody's ever seen before. In
my opinion, Paul Skiing is a special. Now I'm going
to give him the Justin Berlander bump, because anybody that
(30:32):
talented does not have a girlfriend that that hot. But
but he is, he is a special and so I'm
a little biased. I grew up a pirate fan. I'm
watching him pitch. I gotta tell you, here's my thing.
And I said this when he came up. And I
mean no disrespect because he is a generational talent, but
he's a max effort guy. And that scares me because
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the human body is not conditioned to throw a baseball,
and more effort you put into it, the harder it
is on your body.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Now.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
I know he works his butt off. I know he
takes care of his arm, but sometimes there are things
that just don't matter. I fear it. And I said, hey,
four hundred innings was my over under. He was going
to have Tommy John before he pitched four hundred innings
in the big leagues. I hope I'm wrong because he
is good for the game. He is a must watch.
(31:24):
But you know, go back remember Kerry Woods, right, I mean,
you remember Mark Bryer, remember, I mean. And it's a
tough world too, and I you know, there are certain
things that you know, you know in life. If somebody
would ask you about, you know, basketball and a specific
piece of basketball, you could answer it and you in
(31:45):
your mind, you'd think, I know this as well as
anybody alive. I understand pitching, I think as well as
anybody has ever lived. And when Mark Pryor came out
of college and people talk about him having perfect mechanics,
and I saw him throw one pitch and went, those
are the worst mechanics I've ever seen. In a sense.
As a short arm I'm watching guys who people talk
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about and I'm thinking to myself, that's not true, that's
not even. And so when you see Paul Skins throwing,
I gotta tell you, it's the reason we're watching Tommy
John multiply by factor of ten unfortunately. But again, I'm
not hoping this happens. I want him to stay healthy.
I just think being a max effort guy is going
(32:27):
to end up being a reason that physically it's going
to be very challenging for this guy to stay healthy.
And I hope that I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That's so funny because prior I remember watching broadcasts, everybody
say prior perfect mechanics, and that all of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Oh yes, dude, it's mechanics were literally the opposite of perfect.
He was a short arming guy who was a dart thrower,
and that just isn't healthy. Not to mention impossible to command.
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
Other than that, Missus Lincoln, how was the show? Is
that what you're telling me?
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Excuse me? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, abs, okay, the idea of essentially eliminating the umpire
in these close balls and strikes.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
What's your feeling on it.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
Well, here's what we know, right. We talked about the
replay system in first base. Come to find out umps
are missing fifty percent of the calls, right. I mean,
that's not a marginal number if the quote unquote best
in the world, and major g umpires are by no
stretch the best in the world. Let's just be clear.
But if we're defining the best in the world, we're
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only getting it right fifty percent of the time. You're
talking about and here's where I probably separate myself. You're
talking about You're not talking about sport, talking about eleven
billion dollars a year business in which guys are making
forty fifty sixty million dollars a year. I don't want mistakes.
I don't want automations. You either, you know the the
(34:06):
challenge system. I like, you know, they sped it up
as a pitcher. Of sure, I'm biased. I want every
strike to be called a strike, and if some balls
can get called strikes, cool, But for me, I was
always like I felt like I got more. You know,
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they remember the Greg Maddix. Heial he gets pitches that
aren't on the plate. But the fact of the matter
was Greg Maddox was Picasso and if he could throw
the ball six inches off the plate and get a strike,
he would. Hell I did. But but the ABS system,
to me, is going to end if it's truly enforced.
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I'm telling you this right now, and I'm okay with
this being a hot dache. If the rule book strike
zone is enforced by an electronics system, you will never
see a three hundred hitter again, no chance.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Because it's it's it's what bottom of letters to the
top of the upper knees, which is not art.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Cards, armpit to the knees, follow the knees. If you
give me that much space to throw the ball ninety
five miles an hour, no, sorry, you can't defend it.
It's it's undefendable, and uh you know so. Uh but
but I don't know that we're going to go there,
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you know, I I know. I saw sures are called
like challenge to yesterday and got beat on both of them.
Now he hates the system, So it's gonna be it's
gonna be funny to watch, but it's something that you know, Listen,
I thought the wild card was a stupid idea, turned
out to be a genius. I've thought a lot of
these ideas. The only one I think that's going to
(35:48):
have a lasting impression that I think may change because
of the impact will be the stolen the pickoff rules.
I think that's broken his health.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
How would you adjust it?
Speaker 8 (35:59):
What?
Speaker 7 (36:00):
First of all, you can't limit pickoff throws, can you?
Ricky Henderson would have stolen four hundred bases if you
If you limit pickoff throws, If I come set and
the runner knows I can't throw over like okay, game over,
and it's gonna and I say this with all the respects,
it's going to cheapen the stolen base. Sure, yes, right,
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but it's also I don't think it does anything. I
get it right. They want to change the game, pace
of the game, But five throw pickoff throws to first
don't make a game go from two to two and
a half hours. That's just stupid. And I think that
that rule is going to like I said, I think
you look at the stolen base. I think you're going
to see guys routinely hit one hundred stolen bases easily
(36:42):
now and and and get into the stratosphere with it.
And I think that that needs that just that's just
a dumb rule.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Kurt, Listen, clearly your your battling little sniffles. We don't
want to take up any more your time.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
You know what it is, sorry, Doug. You know what
this is spring training? Every spring training when it started
I would call up and sneeze and sound like an idiot.
And apparently today is the first day of spring training
in my retirement. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Well, you know it is.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You need to get it like an NIL deal, like
a sponsorship deal with like Clariton or something. Right, it
does allergies out like Kirk Chillington.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Kirk chilling joins us on.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
The behalf of a legra and I got it. I
gotta tell you. I wanted to ask you personally. I
want to I want to coach. I love coaching. I
love teaching young kids. I want to do college. I
want to do a college program, and I'm wondering what
it's like. You know, is there anything like it was
when we grew up? Or is it a different world
now with than IL.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
What I think?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It depends on level. I do think that it's a
different world in regards to NIL. But I think when
you strip it down your knowledge, like the kids will
eat it up. There's there's still kids, they still desperately
want to learn. The difference is you are going to
get some that are simply there for six month. I'm
(38:00):
going to try and get a check somewhere else. Let's
let's let's have this discussion next time that this is
a great tease so I can have you back on
because your baseball knowledge is beyond approach and I appreciate
joining us.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Kurt, all right, dog, you take care of yourself, my friend.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
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