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March 17, 2025 • 59 mins

On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug gives his reaction to the picks made by the NCAA Tournament Selection committee. 

Doug gives his take on why Major League Baseball is starting it's season in Tokyo. Doug and the crew discuss what they loved most about the weekend and what they hated most about the weekend in Love AND Hate. 

Doug gives out the one thing that could make or break a team's college basketball season. Doug welcomes college hoops analyst Jeff Goodman on to discuss all of the main headlines from the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:47):
on my own kind of visual dial. I got my
guy Dan Bayer, who, along with Aaron Torres He and
at hosted the Bracket show yesterday or when the bracket
was revealed. They were on Fox Sports Radio yesterday, and
of course Jason Stewart, our Steam producer, and I was
Sam who. I don't know if it's because it's Saint
Patrick's Day, that's why you're wearing all your green. Yes,

(01:07):
we got all your green on. Nobody's pinching you. Uh,
but yeah, there you go. Jan's got a green hat on.
Jane's got a green hat on. I got my Green
Bay Phoenix quarter zip. Plus I live in Green Bay.
I think I'm good all times. And then Jace, you
are there in green there, you got green there.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I've got my T shirt. I need to shout
out to Kevin Figures, he's my guy. We both were
a huge fan of the YouTube video about the Leprechawn
in Alabama and the news coverage. And I've got a
shirt underneath that says, uh, I want to go And
it's a it's an amateur sketch of the Leprechawn. Amateur sketch.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's great. Yeah, we all remember case.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
People were confused that it might be a professional sketch,
amateur sketch. I want the gold.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Who here has seen his Leprecaun say, yeah, that's one
of those early YouTube videos, now classic, one of the originals.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Aloat full throated and acting out there, h oh okay,
I don't even know what the hell you guys are
talking about. I'm trying to a sports show here, Like,
when did I become the voice of reason? And the
Voice of Balance. We'll show it to you in the break.
I don't want to watch it. I don't. I have
way too many things on my mind that have nothing
to do with some YouTube video of a leprechaun which

(02:26):
may or may not be offensive to people I don't
even know anymore. Here's what I want to talk about.
I got two things on selection Sunday. Actually three. Number
one is yeah, I didn't. I kind of didn't realize
it until I was at a what is it called
a concert festival in La called Rolling Loud, at which

(02:50):
I apparently was the oldest and least drug induced person there.
My son and I would at least drug headliner was
Playboy Cardi. Anyway, so my son Hayes, shout out to Hazy.
He's got his sixteenth birthday this week. He's on spring break,
and so I said, like, hey man, you want to

(03:11):
go to like he's a huge Playboy Cardi fan. The
opium guys. It's opium music. Anyway. It was, he had
a great time, he was in the mosh pit. I
was just making sure that my dude was okay. We
had a decent time. Anyway. I was looking down at
my phone and all of a sudden, people are texting me, like,

(03:32):
what do you think of this? In the breact like
I didn't. Don't get me wrong. I got home and
eventually I looked at the bracket some interesting stuff and
I'll share it with you in moments. But first time
in twenty three years I hadn't been involved in some
sort of bracket show kind of freeing. On the other hand,
it was like, man, now I'm actually coaching college basketball,

(03:54):
and now it doesn't matter like I got to be.
I got to get in the tournament as soon as possible.
So then all of a sudden, I get back to
watching and caring about the brackets. But I think what's
fascinating about this is the statement made by the selection
committee that I don't know what's been discussed because I

(04:16):
also didn't watch all the talkie talk shows, which goes
completely in line with what I said about college football
and what college football's bracket didn't do. If you remember,
I was the one saying, hey, Alabama should be in

(04:36):
the college football playoff, Hey Ole Miss should be in
the college football playoff. Hey I'm not sure LSU shouldn't
be in the college football Playoff, and people have gone like, well,
look at all the SEC did, Like, okay, would they
have been better than Indiana and SMU and Boise State.
Of course they would have been. Do you know why

(04:57):
because they have and spend more money on on their players,
on their coaches, on everything, and they have an overall
better product. They have an overall better product. Like look,
we're all looking for deals. I've told you guys this before.
I am not shy about it. It doesn't matter if

(05:17):
I shop high end at Alo or Viori or Lululemon.
Right you click on Lululemon's website, and what's the second click?
I always do. There's one that says we've made too much.
Why I don't care if it's out of style. It's like,
I'm not they care about style. I just want something
that's really comfortable and you know, kind of that yoga

(05:40):
e fit. And yeah, I think it's overpriced, so I
want to get it at like thirty percent off.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, So we're all that way. We all like, oh man,
there's a rebate on twenty twenty four vehicles. Granted twenty
twenty four vehicles. The second you drive it off the lot,
they always decrease in value. They plummet in value when
it's a year older model. Right, But we're all looking
for a deal. We all think that everything's overpriced, everything's
and we're probably right. But the other part to it

(06:09):
is they have better players, and maybe not better players,
they have more really really good ones. Because the money
is spread out overall, it doesn't mean that on a
given day you see San Diego, that's probably spent. I

(06:31):
would say one hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand
dollars on their roster. Right, they have a lot of
Division two players. They've done an amazing job of building
that program that elevated from you know, twenty whatever years
ago they were Division I think we're Division two national champions,
not long ago anyway, to being a top team in
the Big West, which there are million dollar teams in

(06:54):
the Big West, but regardless of which, Like you, it
doesn't mean they can't beat Michigan. And Michigan's payroll is
probably three million dollars. But if they play twenty times,
Michigan's going to beat him eighteen. Do you know why?
Because Michigan has better players. They're bigger at every position.

(07:15):
They're bigger and more skilled, and their coach Dusty May
has been at the lower level at Florida Atlantic and
built it over time, and he's he's really really good.
It doesn't mean that what Eric and those guys at
UC Sanego hasn't done. But the point is that the
selection committee got it right. From this standpoint, we can
bitch and moan about how it looks optically to have

(07:36):
fourteen SEC teams and Oklahoma and Texas two of the
bottom teams. Se Oklahoma, I'd say their payroll is probably
million five to two million, which is again bottom end
of the SEC. But that league is a gauntlet because
they spent more money on coaches, more money on facilities,

(08:00):
on training, and more money on players. They have overall
the better teams. Now we can pick and choose which
one we want and which team should be in. And
is it silly that North Carolina is in and West
Virginia is not. West Virginia spends a lot of money.
They have a huge NIL budget, probably greater that greater
than even the North Carolina. Okay, and I think that

(08:20):
it was it's a joke. Of course, West Virginia belongs
in the NCAA tournament. And I'll get to why they're
not very very shortly. But the point is that the
slackh Committee got it right. Where the College Football Committee
got it wrong is that slect Committee didn't try and
win people over and do things that we had all

(08:41):
called for to be the right way to do it. Remember,
in college football, Boise State got to buy why because
they built this insane model, insane model where you had
to be a conference champion and win your conference championship
game in order to get a bye. So for twenty

(09:03):
years people always wanted Hawaii one year, Cincinnati one year,
Boise one year, you know, in a BCS or a
Big Bowl game, or even in the college football Playoff.
And they went from that to putting them as a
top four seed, which was a joke. Right, Indiana was

(09:26):
in and SMU was in Why because well, they wanted
to be fair. F being fair if the if the
goal of the college football Playoff, much like the goal
of the NCAA Tournament, is to find the best teams.
College basketball got it right. College football got it wrong.

(09:48):
College basketball got it right. In college it doesn't mean
that spending the most money always gives you the best
team that can be. There can be chemistry issues, there's
something going on at Kansas because they spent a ton
of money in that team. Their point guard on championship,
their center is like a six year center. Their coach
is a Hall of Fame coach. He's amazing.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
They went out and got Wisconsin's best player from last
year and he barely plays. And I think they'll be okay,
we'll win some games here in March. But the point
is that spending money isn't the end all be all.
But when the whole conference, whole conference spends two to
three x of what most conferences spend on their players,
you're going to have a better product. You're going to

(10:29):
have a better product. You know. It's it's like a
Ferrari or a Porsche, right, and these cars that are handmade, right,
they're going to be well. Occasionally you get something that
that's faulty, of course, not there's no no perfect but
by and large, when you use better things and you

(10:51):
make it by hand, and you spend more time and
you spend more money in terms of your overall investment
in each car, you may can each piece of clothing
you make, it's can you buy a suit off the rack?
And it's fine? Sure, it might fit you great, but
a tailor made suit it costs more. Why because somebody
has to spend expert detail in making sure it's just

(11:13):
right for you, and that suit is always going to
be better than the off the rack one. Which that's
all we're doing here. All right, here's the other thing
that you found yesterday. Those last couple games don't matter,
but they do matter, And you're like, well, that's a
contradictory statement. It is. It doesn't matter in the How

(11:36):
silly is it that Wisconsin is a three seed Michigan's
a five seed, and it's not like you can't give
me the Well they did it because they wanted Wisconsin
to play in Milwaukee. They're not. They played each other
on a Sunday. They're in the same league. They're somewhere
in the neighborhood of the same seed line. And all

(11:58):
you have to do is like, hey, Wisconsin, let's put
them as the three. If Michigan wins, we put them
at the three. Right, wouldn't that be simple? Okay? But
they didn't really pay attention to the outcome on Sunday.
That's pretty obvious. On the other hand, they were watching
how do I know North Carolina got in and West

(12:19):
Virginia did not. And and here's the here's the key
elements of it. Everybody's caught up on the numbers. They
only had one win versus the net you know what
is it? Quadrant one net wins or whatever right, as
opposed to West Virginia that had a clearly better resume,

(12:41):
clearly a better resume. And then poor Bubba Cunningham. And
just for full disclosure, Bubba was the ad at Tulsa.
Bubba's the ad at Carolina. Bubba's a great dude. And
while I laughed on social media about him not being
in the room for North Carolina, the fact is he's
not in the room. And it's kind of an impossible
answer for him to have, like why I've actually done

(13:05):
the selection process, okay, And people say, well, it's about
this now, much's about that number? Bold you know what
it's about. It's about whatever you want it to be about.
They have all the people in the committee, and then
you vote and it cuts it down. And then you
have all the bublic committee and then you vote and
you vote by yourself. You can use whatever stat you want,

(13:26):
whatever thing you want, and if you're sitting there and
you're trying to figure out and you watch West Virginia
lose to Colorado. Tad Bills a tremendous coach. I think
he's the most successful coach Colorado has ever had. But
they were bad this year, right, you know one and
done last or they had a one and done last year.

(13:46):
They lost a bunch of players. I don't think they
have a bunch of nil everything's invested into football. They
were bad. And so when you get together to meet
and West Virginia was on the list of probably in
and then you watch them lose to Colorado, and then
you watch North Carolina give away a game to Duke,

(14:06):
and Duke is your number one overall seed. Granted, Cooper
Flag didn't play okay, but I gonna have a lane
violation otherwise if he makes a second free throw, they
at least go to overtime. So again, we can say
it's about numbers, but it's not. It's about what you've
seen last, what you see first, and what you see last.

(14:29):
And think about that indelibate impression of you're getting ready
to vote. And at the end of the day, you
can use whatever number, whatever skill. There is. There is
no hard and fast rules of what you have to
vote for. They give the members of the committee all
of these different metrics. Is metrices, metrices, metrics, metrics is metrices,

(14:51):
Metrice's right? Can I get a thumb up? I would
just say metrics, but I don't know if maybe I'm wrong, Jase,
do metrics ye, not metrices?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, I think it's just metriz.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Okay, metri they give them all. No, metri would be
singular or plural. Matrices. Yeah, matrix not metrices. It's a matrix. No,
it's not a metrics. You're right. Somebody help us out
that knows more. Anyway, they give them all of these
kind of guides with metrics that you can use to

(15:28):
explain away who and why you picked who and why
you picked metric, metrics is the plural, it's metric, and
it's metrics. They give them all these metrics that you
can use as a guide to pick who you want
to pick. But you can pick whoever you want to pick.
And I think most people, most human beings are sitting

(15:51):
there gone. Well, I just saw Carolina lose by a
point to Duke, and I think Duke's awesome. And a
couple of days ago I saw West Virginia lose to Colorado,
and I think Colorado stinks so North Carolina. It really

(16:13):
is that simple, Like we want to make it about well,
it's the ACC it's about North Carolina. It's about I
think it's really as simple as you watch a team
on a Thursday in an empty gym at the Big
at the Big twelve tournament that you'd like to see
win a game, and they lose to Colorado. And then
two nights, two days later, you're watching Duke Carolina hard

(16:35):
fought game and Carolina kind of found a way to
split up all of themselves but lose a really close game.
You're like, yeah, that one looks like an NCAA tournament theme.
The other one does not. I think that's the reality
of what happened. I think that's that's actually what I think.
That's actually kind of what what happened there. I mean,

(16:58):
that's again my opinion, but I've also been uh, I've
also been a part of it. Doug got Leab show
here on Fox Sports at Radio.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
And Doug the silly thing about Michigan Wisconsin. Yes, Michigan
actually finished in ty for second, Wisconsin finished in ty
for third, and Michigan won the conference tournament, so I
don't get the seating there at all.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, again, that's when they go back to non conference stuff. Whatever.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Wisconsin finished the season a little hotter Michigan condach lost
a few games there down.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Maybe Penn State at home.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah, Michigan also beat Wisconsin, uh in the regular season.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, So I don't get that. I don't either. I
really I don't get it either. I really don't.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
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Speaker 1 (17:47):
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(18:09):
were going to argue about Jay stew We had We
had a really good argument set.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Up for Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Well, the Major League Baseball season opens in less than
twelve hours. And it's a sham. I think it is,
but you don't.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's a sham and a mockery. It's a shamockery yeah,
uh well, let me just can I pitch you on something?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Pitch me on it?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Okay? And Dan, I want your your reaction the same
thing with you, Sammy. Right, Okay. So I'm not gonna
say that that we're tapped out of sports in the
United States, but we're getting there. We're getting close, and
for Major League Baseball specifically, like we're kind of running

(18:52):
a little bit on fumes. The business is obviously very good.
Anyone who tells you like major League Baseball is going
to die next five years, like, no, they wouldn't be
giving out seventy million dollars per year contracts if it
was going to die and if they weren't making lots
and lots and lots of money. Is that okay?

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Is that a fair premise? But it's not like you're like, Wow,
baseball is on the rise, right, They're just everybody wants
a team that everything's hot, can't. I'm not demeaning the
young talent in Major League Baseball, but we're a little
bit tapped out in baseball. So you got to create

(19:31):
new revenues. You've got to expand since you're you're you
have a shrinking what's what's the market when you have
your your percentage of the market. What's that called help
me out? I'm the one wins. Yeah, you have a
shrinking market share. You don't have expanding market share. You
have a shrinking market share. Right the NFL, the NFL,

(19:51):
the NFL, college football, NBA, maybe stable, maybe shrinking. I
don't know. I think it's growing, continues to grow. Football
is growing in nationally, especially more in Europe than in Asia.
But baseball is big in Asia. Baseball is big in Japan.
Does anybody have any dispute that.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
And they've done the preseason games, the spring training games
in Japan before, right, They've done a series of all
kinds of different games before. Does anybody remember them?

Speaker 4 (20:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So you have the best baseball player, quite possibly in
the history of the sport who's from Japan, and he
happens to play for the defending World Series champions. So
I don't understand any sort of negativity towards giving them

(20:48):
real games and trying to expand your market share in
a burgeoning market and in a different part of the
world where here we're kind of tapped out or like, eh,
let me know when October comes, Oh, what do you
think buyer. You you hate it, you like it. I
have no problem with it. And if to what you're

(21:09):
saying is true, then I do think that.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Not that Japan is a new market for baseball, but
you are trying to find dollars elsewhere. I just I
subscribe to the theory of baseball has become a bit
like college basketball. It is regional and in a way
a bit like college football, where if your team is good,

(21:32):
your fans are in it. They are coming to the ballpark,
They're there every weekend. But it maybe doesn't grab a
hold of things nationally, which may be a reason why
Major League Baseball and Major League Baseball has played They've
played games in Japan, as you mentioned, or overseas that
have been regular season games. They weren't Cactus League play,
you know games, or grape Fruit League plays. They were

(21:54):
games between the Mariners and A's. It's just now I
think it draws more attention because it's Otani in the
Dodge and Cubs.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Okay, Jay Stu, what do you hate so much about it?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
All right, So just a couple of things about your theory.
Your premise is that it's better for the revenues of
Major League Baseball owners to spend regular season games overseas.
I don't know if that's the case. I don't care

(22:25):
about the revenues of major league owners. I care about me.
I care about American fans that baseball has done a
very good job of alienating over the past twenty years.
They need to I guess they need to get back
the trust and the interest of the American audience because

(22:45):
that ultimately is what's going to pay their bills. I
think having a regular season game in Japan is not
going to increase the fervor. In other words, if you
were to go up to any Japanese person that's going
to attend the game in ten hours and say, would
you have been less excited to come here to watch
Sho heyo Tawny, you're idole if it was a regular

(23:08):
season major league game or an exhibition game, they would answer,
I am not less excited to see an exhibition game,
or I just want to see him. So I don't
know who we're servicing there. We have a game that's
going to start at three am on the West Coast
for the world champion Dodgers, as you pointed out, and

(23:29):
then a week later, the entire league's going to start.
It just doesn't make any sense. Also, to start a
week of the NCAA tournament again, you're you're trying to
fight for attention and eyes, and you're losing that battle.
I don't think anyone in baseball says we're tapped out
of the American market. I think most of those people

(23:50):
are like, how do we get more eyes or retain
the eyes that we've always had, and they're losing that
by starting a game at three am Pacific time.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
All right, Well, all I can tell you is Manfred
has sped up the game. Manfred has gotten athleticism back
of the game. With the base path, Manfred has made
a lot of really good decisions.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I liked those two. I like those two.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Okay, so you get one not every not every not
everyone is going to hit. And then two there are
plenty of people that didn't like things that he's done.
That's worked out pretty well. So obviously you hate that.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Let's recap our thoughts on the weekend with a little
love and hate.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
What did you love?

Speaker 4 (24:32):
God? I love you?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And what did you hate?

Speaker 4 (24:36):
These player hay Is.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Stuck, Gallip Show, Fox Sports Radio, Tyrack dot Com Studios.
What'd you love from the weekend? Dan Bira, what'd you
love from the weekend?

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Okay, this is very off the wall and it's very
very inside, but you were talking with Jeff Goodman earlier
about you see Riverside accepting two bids to the tournaments,
the craziness. Have you guys seen the bracket for the
CBI and I suggest any listener just go and take

(25:08):
a look at CBI tourney.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
That's what it's called.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
It's the Purple College Basketball Invitational, but it's at CBI tourney.
It is a bracket that I've I've I don't know
why it's made this way, but it's just hilarious in
terms of because they I don't even know how many
teams they have DOUG nine eleven. I think they have
eleven schools in the bracket. So you have one bracket

(25:33):
that's really long. You've got three of them having a bye.
I think they're all playing in one spot. It just
it made me chuckle when I looked at the winner
of Illinois State and Presbyterian gets an automatic bid to
the semi finals. But the reason why it's done like
that is because they only have It's just it's a mess.

(25:53):
I love the Sun Belt bracket. I love the West
Coast Conference bracket, and then when I saw this bracket
and the CBI of I have a seen any bracket
like that before. I was Sam, do you have a
brought up? Do you have a picture of it at
CBI Toorney, I've never I'm sorry now, I thought.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
You were actually looking the crown as well.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
There's the crown that's put.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
On by Fox.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
But unfortunately schools that could be a ligned for that,
like Ohio State has declined an invite to play in that.
That's going to be a week long event in Las Vegas.
But I just had a big chuckle over this CBI bracket.
The reason they had to do it is because they're
playing the game on a certain day. But there's just
extra long line of brackets. And this is what we
get when you don't make the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Pure chaos.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
But part of the Riverside deal, as Jeff Goodman explained,
was also a part of my love in two tournaments
at the same time.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
It's amazing, and you need a television subscription to watch
the first round in the quarterfinals, something called flow hoops.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yes, subscription required.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Oh no, Unfortunately, I just pulled up a list of
the games, not the actual brack crowd is pretty.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yes, quite.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
The Crown is supposed to be all know TV partners
of Fox and those that don't make it. But that's
what I that's it was just a fun.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I'm not gonna say which one, but we were. There's
two that that we were invited to and I was
just like, yeah, we don't our guys. We had so
many injuries at the end of the year. Some of
these like we won four games, like, it's not gonna
look great for you guys, Like yeah, but people watch
and get attention like I'd love to, but my guys
are fried.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Some of these, like lesser known postseason tournaments you pay
to get in, right, Yes, So it's yes. I think
it's eventually gonna have to be the opposite. They're gonna
have to pay these teams because well, okay, do you know.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Why they pay? The team's paying?

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Do you know why?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
They tell me? Because the coaches want to get twenty wins?
But also what about like that's well, just tell you though,
what about the coaches want to get twenty wins? They
want to get twenty wins. But so then they go like, ah,
they got my twenty one seasons we had.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
You got slim pickings with some of these some of
these U uh And I feel like you you have
so many postseason tournaments outside of the n I T
and NCAAA that you like have to pay some of
these teams to get in. I don't know, it just
seems like, uh, like if I think the.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Teams in the Crown are getting are getting paid some yeah,
there's some nil stuff yeah too, right.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Again, I don't know if that's sustainable either, because I mean, look,
are people gonna gamble on it? Sure? Are they gonna
watch it?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
You got you got teams that missed the NCAA tournament
were like, we're not even gonna go to n I T.
We're good. So Vegas is the only place this actually
works because you can do a trade for the rooms, right,
So so the cost is less for all things involved.
The cost is less for the flights. The other genius
to fought what Fox is doing, Like whoever's putting on
I don't I gotta figure out, I forget what because
foxes lay us the third party to put the tournament on.

(28:47):
It's really smart because they're doing it. I think it's
the weekend before the final four or the week before
the final four. Yeah, a little while. Yeah, so they
have time to book all the flights and everybody will
fly commercial and it won't be nearly as expensive, so
there's a lot of cost savings there.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
But like.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
The portal's open, it's gonna be a mess. Like the
portal opens Monday, it's a mess, dude, Like you really,
are you going to play a guy who's in the portal? No,
And then there'll be guys that, like everybody knows is
going in the portal and they're not gonna put themselves
in the portals. Here's another one. Okay, some schools, I

(29:33):
don't know how everybody works some schools. I think most schools,
the second you go into the portal, you stop receiving
your compensation, your nil compensation, which is paid out monthly.
So the portal opens March twenty fourth, but you wait
April second or third, they'll be a rush to the

(29:54):
portal because kids will get their check and then go
into the portal. A little bit of dirty pool there.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I think we need some tweaking for the portal obviously
in football and basketball dates tweak the dates.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I don't like that the portal's open during the NCA turnment,
but I will also tell you the portal's already open.
Yeah yeah, I have not spoken Era, Senata. Have you
spoken to a player who is in the portal? I? Era,
I have not spoken to a player in the portal.
But we get sent names and lists by third and

(30:28):
fourth parties all the time, and you just kind of
gotta be at the ready, and you got to figure
out who's gonna stay from your group as well. You know,
you'll have somebody walk in and surprise you when the
portal opens, Friz. But anyway, back to the Crown. The
Crown's got some interesting names, right, But I just wonder,

(30:49):
like Tyson Dagenhart's the all time lean score at Boise State.
Is he going to play against George Washington on March
the thirty first? Is Patrick McCaffrey going to play for
Butler against Utah? Like, hey, let's go that one last game?
And who is he going to play with? I don't know,
it's crazy crazy. Villanova fired their coach, but they're in
the Crown. Who's coaching the team? Who's going to play

(31:12):
for the team. Good luck, good luck? It is messy.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Let's at least pretend to focus on basketball and then
have a date where we can stop pretending about pretending
we're not focused on the portal and then actually engage
in the portal.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
It sucks, Jayce du something you love in the weekend?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
All right? So I had my my baseball draft, my
fantasy draft at my buddy Pete's place. I drafted Mookie
Bets in the first round, only to find out that
he's lost fifteen pounds in two days and likely has dysentery.
So that'll be cool.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Was he an Oregon trail? Was up? Was he on
Oregon trail?

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
He? I think it was an Oregon trail.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Ran out of dried Hamhocks too, bummer.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
So I'm making my way back on the five from
from wahabro and I tune into Fox Sports Radio to
hear Dan Byer and Aaron Torres doing the selection show.
And I'm a huge fan of listening to people that
know what they're talking about, that are excited about what
they're talking about. You just can't you can't coach that,

(32:15):
You can't bottle that up. You can't. That enthusiasm is infectious.
I will say this, as all these conversations are being
had around the business about how to keep radio very
relevant and make a lot of money, there's a lot
of talk about maybe going towards the narrow casting that

(32:35):
podcast offer. Hearing people talk about something they know very
well and are excited to talk about is a good listen.
Dan Byer and Aaron Torres. That was a thrill yesterday
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
If you haven't listened to it, you could access it
on our podcast FSR Weekends. It's it'll give you everything
you need to know. Well done. I love that, Dan, I.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Love It's always it's always a rush. As Doug can
tell you when the brackets are coming out. We were
on for three hours and smackeddab in the middle of it.
Is when the brackets are released and there is something
about seas nits pop up and CBS does keep it
going at that point, and then thirty five minutes we
had the brackets and then then it's breaking everything down

(33:19):
and that's fun. Thank you appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Uh, Sam will all right, I guess my love and
my hate from the weekend is actually going to be
a stuff that happened on a Friday and a Monday.
Maybe a Sunday night, but a Friday Monday. We'll just
throw that. It's one long Saint Patrick's Day weekend. Dan,
I'm still riding high from my initial descent, absolute domination
for the Friday.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, Sam killed it. You and Carrie will you you?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
You?

Speaker 5 (33:44):
And Monci, I guess kind of you came up with
this game you present with this game of guess if
this these initials are a real conference in basketball or
made up?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And initial descent, initial descent. I had a blast. He
was perfect. I was I bowled a three hundred.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Because you know, when I look at all the scores
on any given weekend during college basketball season, I open
up that Division one and we go down the list.
We go down the list, and I dominated. And I'm
still riding high of that. So that was my love
of the weekend. Chapping on a Friday. Sam knew there
was a Summit League. Also knew there wasn't a Human League.
I did, Yes, the Human League. Maybe maybe we'll just
have one giant conference in like twenty five years and

(34:24):
it'll be called the Human League. And there's also the
Human Fund which is I think is a Seinfeld reference, right, yeah,
the Human fund as.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, Georgia's made up.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Did you guys mention that their second single fascination was
a better song Human League.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
I like Human And I didn't realize until recently that
was a Jimmy jam Terry Lewis. So I was things
I found out today. I did not realize that.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
That was Yes, what was it that carry got tripped
up on? It was Doug you'll appreciate this.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
We gave him c AA and he's like, oh, that's
the that's the representation, that's the the agents.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
But it was also a conference colonial. Yeah, yes, the
FML was not a league, by.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
The way, it was not.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
There's not a lot of conferences that are called leagues,
like the Summit League, I think is the only one,
right sure, And so like you're thinking, like, I know,
there's not a ton of leagues.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Leagues, leagues.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Go ahead, done h what I love For the weekend,
I got to hang out my son man. He's turned
sixteen on Wednesday. Obviously, been a hard season and hard
for me personally spending time away from him.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Uh but uh.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Uh, surprising him with taking him to Rolling Loud like dude,
he's grown. He's grown three inches in the last three months,
so he's going through a bit of a grossburg finally
kind of catching up and as all is he now,
I like five, he's five six ers was getting up

(35:58):
to them getting there, so.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
But just.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
The joy from him, and uh, you know one of
the things and I have again, I have a good group.
Every coach you hear talk about their team over the
next four weeks and be like, oh, we got great kids.
I really do have good young men. But the one
thing we're trying to like be cautious of is guys
who are it's the word. They're not entitled, you know,

(36:27):
and they're thankful for all the opportunities that they're given.
So yeah, my son showed me some of that where
he's just super thankful, super kind about it, respectful, good stuff.
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
Our resident hateter is Jason Stewart.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Jay su what you hate it's kind of the antithesis
of what I loved. So the antithesis of tourism, Bayer
loving and knowing a lot about what they were talking about.
Are is all the talk show hosts since the selections
that are just completely talking out of their backside, like
they they haven't watched a second of college basketball, but

(37:08):
all of a sudden, they know that Louisville got jobbed,
they got a horrible draw. How could they possibly do that?
And then they talk to you with conviction about who's
going to be in the Elite eight, Like they ignore
the sport for four or five months, and then now
on Sunday Night through the next three weeks they're talking
about it with expertise. That annoys me and I hate that.

(37:32):
And also it's also unfair that guys like Aaron Torres
and Doug and you know people in the past that
have been paid to be an expert on the sport.
It's unfair that they need to submit their brackets. I
think it should be an industry wide rule that people
that follow the sport closest should not have to submit
their brackets. All they do is worse than your credibility.

(37:54):
It's the most unpredictable thing in the history of the world.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I disagree.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Why would you subject experts to that scrutiny.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
I want to see people's majorly, I'm want to see
people's Baseball Hall of Fame ballots, So I got to
go against that everybody. It's gotta be transparent, completely transparent.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Did you guys see that all four of the ESPN
talking heads, as we like to say, but Jay Williams,
J Billis, Rhys Davis, and some other guy were all
picked Florida.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Some other guy.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
I was just a just a personal disc They all
picked Florida to win at all, all of them picked Florida.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
So they unveil their brackets at the end and every
one of them is like, Florida to win, Florida to win,
Florida to win, Florida to win.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well pressure. I think Todd Golden is a friend of mine.
I actually coached him a little bit when I was
a Bruce par on this team, and todd'st Todd's fund, dude.
But we do the prisoner of the moment thing all
the time, Like just one the SEC tournament, you know,
I gotta pick them, doesn't mean they won't. I think
they're really really good. The other thing Todd does is

(38:59):
they are are completely all in on analytics. Like we
do a lot of things analytically that are I think
a little bit ahead of the curve. Now, obviously doesn't
always play out as such in terms of when we foul,
how we call it timeouts, when we go to score shots,
we take et cetera, et cetera. But they are all
all advanced metrics. Everything they do. It's really fascinating and

(39:21):
they have very good talent. But it's like kiss the
death when they all pick them and it kiss of
death seems that way? All right? Who else? Who else said?

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Did you and Goodman talk about South Alabama? I had
to step away for a second. Okay, so they got
the invites?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Can tell it anyway.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Well, I was just gonna say they got invited, and
then it got and I did, then they got uninvited.
I had to record something when you were talking to them,
so I didn't hear the whole interview. But I'll say this,
I love the Players Championship and Rory McElroy ended up
winning the rain delayed event. It's a it's a nice watch.
It doesn't rise to the level of the majors. I
don't consider it a fifth major, but I do. I
think Sawgrass brings drama the seventeenth Hall. I embrace it.

(40:03):
I think it's great. There's just no place to put
it in March, and you can't have it next weekend.
You can't have it the weekend after. There was a
time when they had it in May. It wasn't great
for the course. They tried to do it on Mother's
Day weekend, that's when the PGA was being played in August.
I just as a college basketball fan, that's.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
What this time is.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
And I don't feel that I give full attention to
the Players Championship, But Doug, I don't have an answer
on where this event could go to get the full
hype that it deserves, as we're now a month away
from the Masters. So yeah, a little disappointing. I hate
that it's back to being this way, But oh well,

(40:44):
I don't hate Jay Billis.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I actually like him. I think I consider him a friend.
But I hate that it continually falls back on a
wrong opinion, which is why are we arguing about these
last two teams the tournament? They don't matter anyway, right.
I remember this argument with a school called George Mason

(41:10):
when they probably shouldn't have been in the tournament and
they got into the tournament or in the first four,
and last I checked, they played in the final four.
I remember it with UCLA a couple of years ago
and they were in the first four and went to
the final four. You go back to VCU and it's like,
we have twenty years of data now on the first

(41:31):
four and these last couple of teams in and it's
not an absolute but there's pretty obvious statistical analysis or
just easy analysis that says anybody can come out of
date and continue to win games so many times. The
benefit to play that extra game in Dayton and to

(41:52):
play without kind of fear of losing a game once
you get into the real bracket.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I just.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
And Jay is so well respected that no one calls
him on it. On ESPN. Nobody goes like, hey, Jay,
have you been saying the same thing for twenty years?
And like go through chapter and verse of all the
teams he got wrong. So I hate that. Sometimes, Hey listen,
it's okay to go like my bad, I'm wrong, And

(42:22):
that is love and hate.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
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Speaker 1 (42:34):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Do you guys
want to know the number one thing I know Jeff
Goodman's going to join us in a second. By the
way I've done, I said twenty this is the first
time in twenty three years I haven't been involved in
the bracket show, and it was just great. I missed
working with Jeff, who's the founder of Field of sixty eight,
but I didn't miss you know, worrying about who got

(42:58):
in who didn't get in at the moment of been
breaking down a bracket and like, yeah, don't I'm good.
But I will tell you this, and this is why
I'm really interested in Wisconsin's game against Montana, which is
played in Denver, Colorado, right, and VCU's game against BYU,
which is played in Denver, Colorado. Those are Thursday games, right,

(43:20):
Thursday games. The number one thing I've learned is that
schedule can win you games and can get you beat
and can get you fired and get you in. And
now the NCAA tournament, and I think the easiest. Let
me just obviously, my team record wise wasn't good. Like
we're not. I'm not sitting here, this is none of
this is breaking news to you guys. When I had

(43:42):
when we had Anthony Roy led the country in scoring,
we beat Siue, who won their conference, the OVC Conference
Sermon Championship, that won like twenty two games, Ryan Baroni,
We beat them by like twenty five at our place.
And I said it at the time, like that wasn't
the real Siu e because they had played four game.
We were there fourth in seven days, and so they

(44:02):
were just out of gas. And I would say we
lost three or four games in the non conference because
we just had no gas in the tank, and probably
a couple in conference plays where we didn't set up
our schedule properly or the schedule was just untenable for
us traveling to different time zones, flying like and I

(44:24):
bring that up because Wisconsin, who I think is really
really good, but they just played a hard fought game
on a Sunday. They end up Sunday after Sunday evening
playing in Chicago. Now they got to bus home right
and they slept in their own beds, but it was
a late, long night. And then today they get up

(44:45):
and they have the day off, and then tomorrow they
fly to Denver, Colorado and they play Montana who won
their conference tournament championship a week ago. And oh yeah,
by the way, they play them in Denver. Now, does
it affect them tomorrow? Probably not. I mean affect them Thursday,
probably not. But then they turn around on Saturday, they'll
play BYU. Hey, and BYU lost, you know, like five

(45:10):
days ago in the Big twelve tournament. And oh yeah,
by the way, BYU is playing a VCU team that
played in their conference tournament championship, also on a Sunday,
and they're playing in altitude where BYU lives, and the
second game in altitude is the hardest one. I don't
know if this is why Seth Davis picked BYU to
the lead eight or he just likes something else. You know,

(45:32):
they're trending in the right way. But I'm telling you
right now that Wisconsin who played what three and three
days ending on a Sunday, and now is if they
played four and four days? Yeah, four and four days.
So Wisconsin got done on a Sunday and they play
on a Thursday. So that's five games in nine days.

(45:52):
They'll have six games in eleven days, Wisconsin, and in altitude.
I mean, listen, I think the world of Greg Garden.
This team this year. I love it. John Tanji, who
transferred in from Missouri after being at Colorado State. He's
a stud stud but scheduling gets you beat wouldn't stunny

(46:15):
at all at b YU, especially second half of that
second game that Wisconsin all of a sudden, like why
are they missing shots? Why are they not getting back
on defense?

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Why? Why? Why?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Altitude, number of games, volume of travel. Jeff Goodman joins
us from field of sixty eight. What do you think, Jeff?
What do you think of that dissertation of travel?

Speaker 4 (46:40):
And how big you're You're right, But my big question
to you is are you going to sue the NCAA
for not getting into the NCAA Tournament like the West
Virginia governor did or plans to because the Mountaineers got
left out of the field.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
That's still not the craziest story. The crazy story is
South Alabama was invited to the n i T and
they're like, s what what what happened?

Speaker 4 (47:07):
So what happened was you see, Riverside had committed to
the CBI. Okay, they committed a CBI and then then
all of a sudden they get an email from what
until the ad West Millette gets an email from the
n i T after they committed, saying you're in the

(47:28):
n I T. So then he tries to get out
of the CBI, and they had already committed. I guess
the n T had already. Dan Gavitt had already called
South Alabama and told them they were in. Basically, I
guess what happened was, uh, you see, uh rivers whatever

(47:50):
it is Riverside, sorry, was in two of them. They
were in CBI and n I T at the same time.
They committed to both both thought they were in and
and so the NCAA invited South Alabama and Richie Riley
called them. He told his team they were excited all this,
that and the other, and then they had to rescind
it when Riverside got out of the CBI and got

(48:15):
into the NIT. So Richie Riley is not very happy
and his team is not very happy because they are
no longer in the NIT. Now oh my god, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's there's just so much messiness right now going on everywhere.
And again, my whole deal on all these bubble teams

(48:37):
is listen, bottom line is you can justify every one
of them getting in one reason or another because none
of them are all that deserving. And I still say,
go back to sixty four, and even then you go
back to sixty four, you're going to get complaints from
sixty five, sixty six, sixty seven to sixty eight. So
you're never going to get away from this. But the

(48:57):
fact that the West Virginia governor is trying to sue
the n C double A is a crock of you
know what, like, shut up the hell out of here,
stay in your lane lane.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I I get I get it. But this is what politics.
This is what politicians do. They got, they got they
got a grand stand, They got to be involved, They
got to be involved. Does this have any impact on
whether or not Darien debrees, whether he remains at West
Virginia or goes back to goes back to his home

(49:28):
state of Iowa as the Hawkeyes are looking for a
new head coach.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Well, I think it depends on what the offer is
from Iowa. I think that's the biggest thing here is
obviously is he is.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
He ahead of Ben McCullum in their in their wish list?

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Well, Ben McCullum is, from what I'm told, maybe at
the top of Indiana's wish list, so that may not matter.
He may be the one A or one B at Iowa.
But if Ben McCullum takes Indiana, it doesn't matter, and
then there derees we'll be able to get even more.
You know, I was a big problem. They didn't have
a lot of money this year for Prean McCaffrey, somewhere

(50:05):
in the one, you know, a little over a million dollars.
I believe in nil. But you often wonder, Doug, in
those cases, is it just that the ad is setting
Frean McCaffrey up to fail at that point and just saying, hey,
we want to move on. We're not devoting all the
resources to you, and maybe the money people as well.
The boosters are.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Saying, no, that's that's what happens.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Yeah, okay, that's getting stale.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Well what what happened? Yes, what happens is they they
want to bleed you out, right, they want to bleed
you out. The coach goes to the money people and like, hey, man,
you want to make this thing happen. We got to
get some more money. And the money people like, yeah,
we're we're good here if you and then they tell
the athletic well they well, they tell the athletic director,
if you want our money, you got to you gotta go,

(50:53):
you gotta change this thing.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
We'll get somebody good, get their debrees or Ben McCollum. Correct, well,
we'll step forward, but we're not paying for year sixteen
of fran McCaffrey. And you're right, that's how about this, Doug,
how about this? The new trend? I assume you paid
attention to this. The new trend is hiring NBA assistants. Right.

(51:15):
It was NBA former players, which was a colossal disaster.
None of them have really made it. Penny Hardaway looks
good this year, but you know, he's about the only
one who survived the you know, Chris Mullen, Patrick Ewing,
Juwan Howard, and we go on and on. So that's failed.
So now the new trend is NBA assistant coaches because

(51:35):
Kevin Young was good this year at BYU. So now
Utah goes Alex Jensen. That's not going to work. You watch,
it's just not I'd be shocked. He's not even coming
over to Utah until the end of the NBA season.
Good luck with that. And you've got other guys, you know,
being hired here. Dan Garriott, former Richmond player, probably will
take over for Covid Anderson who's fired after two years

(51:57):
at Iona. Obviously, Luke out got the Florida State job.
He was on the bench at Sacramento.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Here's here's the common misconception. Okay, they think that it's
now quasi professional basketball, right, they think that it's professional basketball,
and on some level it it is, and it isn't. Okay,
is it free agency? Yet it's actually way more like
AAU than it is like professional basketball. And there's still

(52:27):
relationships as a coach still completely matter, completely matter, and
the idea of hey, we can just plug and play.
We get a GM in place, they picked the players,
and then the NBA assistant comes in and he runs
the NBA stuff and we sell him on the NBA
and we operated like it's an NBA team. Like that
looks good. That's what we'll do. But again, I'm just

(52:48):
telling you from obviously from my year of experience, I
think I don't think that's accurate. I just don't. And again,
every school and every setup is different, and and Andre's
context right, and look, let's just be honest. The BYU
thing works because Ryan Smith, who owns the Jazz game
of blank check they didn't have a blank checkbook and

(53:09):
said hey, just go buy the best players. It's it's
still back to old BYU no matter who the coach is, right,
So yeah, is he is he doing a nice job? Absolutely?
And can they generate money from the boasters? Absolutely? But
if unless you have a billionaire, that's right in check.
I don't give a damn where you coached last year, Right,
it still comes down to money, which is which was
I started the show saying this that I thought of

(53:31):
the things the committee got right that don't feel good
to the outside world, but those of us on the inside,
no is the sec of course, they get fourteen teams.
They haven't spent all the money, right, so they got
better dudes than everybody else. And it's a different sport.

(53:52):
They're playing a different sport. It's we go play Ohio State. Yeah,
we play Ahio State, and it's a we cut to
lead to like eight in the second half, and we're competing.
And and I know, Awha State wasn't particularly good this year.
Their bubble team and they're bubble burst. But again, if
you knew our salaries, if you knew their salaries, and
then all of a sudden, you know, yeah they have

(54:17):
there's not a starter on their team that doesn't make
more than my entire team combined. Okay, Okay, so we
go in the locker room and you know, like I'm
bent out of shape because I changed the ball screen
coverage and they hit a three here, and then we
got into foul trouble and then you know, it got
to like fifteen, and then I played the bench, and

(54:38):
then the bench was way worse than the starters because
they were so young, and you know whatever, it kind
of got out of hand. The final score not indicative
of how close the game actually was. And one of
my assistant coaches go, coach, that's a three million dollar team.
You know how much we spent on ours? Where it
will be Okay, you know what I mean? So yeah,
I actually think in that case they did it. Okay,

(54:58):
real quick on some of this coaching st let's do it, uh, Indiana.
Your best guess is who Ben.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
McCullum of Drake. I think that's who it's gonna be. Now,
supposedly there might be a mystery candidate. I just think
they're trying to keep this thing quiet for as long
as they can, kind of like the Josh Shirts deal
last year. Remember, everybody kind of knew once Saint Louis
one shirts didn't make remember that they got to the

(55:25):
n I T and they wanted to run it out
till they lost it in the n I T. But
everybody kind of knew it was his gig. I think
it's been McCollum's gig here, which is crazy. I mean
a year ago he's in Division two.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, I mean he turned down a lot of vision
in jobs and took to Drake one and brought us.
You know, he brought his crew over. It's what's gonna
be interesting. Obviously you'll probably bring search with him. But
who else can he get because you know, we played
against him and they were older. But also they had
like four or five guys that have played for him
for multiple years. So then does Iowa become the freeze derees?

Speaker 4 (55:59):
I would think so again, as long as the resources
are there for him. But now it's kind of an
interesting one, right, Like you got the governor fighting for
you all this, they're rallying around you in West Virginia.
Do you really just say like, all right, thanks you guys,
I'm out. I'm I'm going back home.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
To Iowa, Okay, And then who would get West Virginia.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
I would assume it's got to be Utah State. It's
gotta be Jered Calhoun, you would think, right. I mean,
he just did a great job in Utah, Steah.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
And he's also he's a hugs guy. He's a hugs guy,
but not a hugs.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Like, not a Andy Kennedy hugs guy, you know, a
little different.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
No, I mean, yeah, I mean, and then of course
you and THENTULA guys, that's what he is. Virginia, Ryan Otam.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Right, Virginia, Ryan Odum, and then the NC State.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I think it'll be Will Wade, Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
And then the big wild car. There's two wildcards here, Villanova.
I could see Richard Patino ending up there. Chris Collins
is a name that could be there. Remember he obviously
has some Philly times with his with his dad. And
then Texas and it's the most interesting matchup I think
of the tournament in no way because Xavier plays Texas

(57:20):
and a couple of years ago when Beard got fired,
you know, they didn't think Rodney Terry was going to
be the guy at that point, and it probably would
have been Sean Miller at that point. Sean Miller, you know,
if he can beat Texas here, I think it's Sean Miller,
and I think Rodney Terry probably needs to win at
least one, maybe two games to save his shop.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
And Xavier playing at their art rival Dayton, which is
forty minutes or so from their campus, will be will
be interesting as well.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
And they're good.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
They're good like Texas Xaviers winning that game just.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Crey Johnson is awesome. They don't. They don't run enough
for him. He doesn't have enough around him. It's just
like I just saw them play and I'm like twice
and in person, man he is. He's going to be
a hell of an NBA player. You watch.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Give me you're the best man a Field of sixty eight.
You can check out their podcast. You can watch their
shows as well. He's the founder. He's awesome. Jeff, listen,
I'm I'm available. You know now that we win four games,
nobody wants to talk to me.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
But hey, well cause you don't. You don't follow it all.
You don't watch games every night like you used to.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Right, I actually care about my worry, worry about my
I watch games. I just don't watch the games that
you guys watch.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
And you guys talk about you watch the league games,
you watch your league games.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
No, no, no, we watch other league games for other reasons, right.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
So okay, all right, we're not going there right now.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
No, but like that's the weird, that's that's I mean,
Steve Alford said it, like hintshake lines are super weird, right.
And that's the other thing about these games is a
lot of these mid majors like they play teams. They
know that if we play good team, my best player
play as well, he's going to that team next year.
Like that's exactly how it will happened. It's it's nuts

(59:10):
GOODI thanks for joining us, brother

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Love you Matt, Love you to
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