THE BEST OF THE WEEK OF THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

On this week's version of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug welcomes Auburn head coach Bruce Pearl onto the show to talk about his top-ranked Tigers in the NCAA Tournament and the connection that Doug and Coach Pearl has going back many years. 

In this version of "The Midway", Doug and the crew share what they like and dislike most about NCAA Tournament coverage. 

Doug gives his take on why Major League Baseball is starting it's season in Tokyo. Doug and the crew discuss what they loved most about the weekend and what they hated most about the weekend in Love AND Hate. 

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Bruce Pearl here joining us, and it's really interesting, right.
Bruce is somebody who I knew through actually through my dad,

(00:51):
and my dad had has friends in Milwaukee because when
my dad coached at Wisconsin MILWAUKEEWM when I was just
a baby seventy five through eighty, and when Bruce took
the job and then later took them to the Sweet sixteen,
he was kind enough to call my dad and connect

(01:11):
with him and kind of pick his brain a little
bit and kind of a friendship was struck up. Bruce's Jewish,
my family's Jewish. Obviously, there's there's that connection as well.
What's fascinating about Bruce is he's obviously an incredible salesman, right,
and he has this remarkable amount of energy that just

(01:31):
kind of lifts people in the room. He just kind
of turbo charges everywhere he goes. But what I didn't
know is that he's a really good basketball coach. You know,
a lot of times what happens is when you're when
you're the type of guy that says funny things and
has that energy and is waving your arms on the
sideline and and just everything is about energy and enthusiasm,

(01:56):
and he says these fun quips.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
You make the assumption.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
They're like, oh, okay, well that that covers for the
fact that they don't know. They just go out there
and play kind of roll it out and just go
play hard. And then, as you guys know, because I've
done the radio show from Israel, I was set to
be his assistant with the maccabie Games. And my son

(02:24):
who's now turned sixteen this week, Like when you agree
to take a job, it wasn't a job wasn't paid,
but a volunteer spot as a coach or as an
assistant coach for the games. You do so over a
year in advance, right, So it was like it was
probably May the year before, right, So this is May
of two thousand and eight, and I'll never forget. I'm

(02:48):
driving and he calls me and I'm you know, and
I was He's like, hey, you want to be my
assistant and go to Israel next summer. And if you've
ever had a phone conversation with Bruce, it's like the
reason he's such a good recruiter. They're like, yeah, I'm
in like whatever. So fast forward to the next uh,

(03:12):
probably spring right, not even right about now, but actually
probably early early spring, like February. He was the head
coach at Tennessee and the summer before we'd had tryouts
and been to Knoxville and been on he had this
boat that we were out in the lake on and
it was actually kind of cool. How about this one guys,
I had to catch a flight to fly home. He

(03:33):
took the whole team out on a boat, a couple
of boats out in the lake outside of Knoxville, and
I was like, hey, BP I gotta go catch up playing.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
He's like, no problem.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
He like signals over to one of his boys and
they have like another boat. Took me to a little
smaller boat, took me to a jet ski and I
had like a backpack and a travel back and I'm
on the back of jet ski. Pulls me up to
a little launch spot and then all of a sudden
there's like a there's like a town car waiting for me.

(04:07):
It takes me to the airport age to the airport.
I was like, this is the most amazing thing I've
ever been a part of.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
But I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
My wife at the time was like, You're not leaving
me with three kids under three and going to Israel
with Bruce Pearl for a month.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
So I didn't go. But he always credits me.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
He's like he was my assistant coach, Like, yeah, I
coach with him like in training camp, which was cool,
and I learned that there's a method to it and
he really knows basketball. But I forever wish I was
at his actual assistant And what's crazy about it is
one of his players is now the head coach at
one of his rivals at Florida who.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was also a one seat.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
The whole thing is bizarre and cool and if you
know BP, you know they're like, yeah, that tracks. Bruce
Pearl joins us now head coach of the Auburn Tigers
on the Doug Otleam Show on Fox Sports Radio. Did
I go boat to boat to jet ski or boat?
I don't remember. I just remember going from the boat
to the airport in really strange fashion.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, Doug, it's it's great to be with you, and
I remember it like it was yesterday. Of course, it
was back in two thousand and like eight eight eight eight,
yes when we when we had that summer training camp
in Knoxville, and we had a great couple of days
and we were we were we'd worked pretty hard, and
so that Sunday, when everybody was leaving, we just decided

(05:29):
to take a little time and get out of the lakes,
get out of the Tennessee River and boats and jet
skis and we were all tied up and we're having
too much fun. And you know, I just can remember
you basically bought your clothes with you. Yes, she said, no,
I'm gonna I'm gonna go. And so I've never seen
anybody with a suitcase and a jet ski crazy and

(05:49):
I don't know how you made that flight on time,
but you made it.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Oh listen, that's just one of the one of the
one of the many planes, trains and automobiles, Like, dude,
because I like to catch planes where the door literally
hit me as I as I, as I get get
on get on the plane.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
There's so many coaches that have been in this profession
that they're just like, I can't do this.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
This is just.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Agents, runners, transfer, portal like so much stuff. It feels
like not only you, but even your league has kind
of embraced the new era of college sports.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
What's it like for you?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Could because people forget like you went from assistant coach
Division two head coach, climbed the ladder in Division one
to Final four at Auburn and number one team in
the country. So you've been in this racket for well
over thirty five years. What's it what's the experience like
for you in this new era of college basketball?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, you know, Doug, it's the sec our slogan, is it?
Sort of? It just means more And the toughest league
in the country is the one you're in. Okay, so
when you were in the Horizon League this year at
green at Green Bay, that was the toughest league in
the country for you. And so what that means was
we recognized that the SEC was going to be committed

(07:11):
to supporting student athletes in the area of NIO. Obviously,
you know, football is going to take the lion's share
because of you know just how much revenue is driven
from those football programs. But the basketball programs weren't terribly
far behind. And the difference between our league and most
other leagues, well, let's just say specifically take the ACC

(07:34):
for example, really only Duke or Louisville or Clemson or
a couple other schools were committed in the area of
NIO for their basketball programs and the others weren't, and
as a result, they're telet level dropped off. Still great coaches,
still great programs. Where is in the SEC sixteen schools invested,

(07:55):
I mean really invested. And yeah, you know, look, Doug,
I still look at this as this profession, as ministerial.
You know, recruiting has become more transactional. At the same time,
you know, I'm a free market guy, I'm a capitalist.
I believe in this republic, in this country, and I
believe that you know, the market is going to set

(08:17):
with some is worth and all. All that's happened is
we have recognized finally that these student athletes are are
really of greater value, value than what they were really
ever appreciated for. Everybody else was making money except the
student athletes. That was wrong. The n CUBA was slow
to adjust. Now, of course, you know, we have a

(08:38):
situation where there are no guard lines, there are no
guard rails, we won't really have it. We did not
really have a national chip in football this year. Ohio
State had the ASA had the largest, and I also
did Texas, so did a couple of schools. They were
the schools that advanced. And you know, in basketball it
won't quite mean the same, uh, because because we're not
all playing by the same rules. I Congress can get

(09:01):
some legislation done, get some anti trust protection in there,
so we can pay the student athletes. But on a
more you know, on on on a level that we're
all playing by the same rules.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
On one hand, you get a top seed, on the
other hand, you've lost three of your last four. I
think that the only question with losing is has it
adjusted or hurt the confidence level of the team into
where you actually stand in the landscape.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Do you know the answer to that?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I don't know that great question. I don't know the
answer to it yet, you know, But I don't think
we're winning, Jeff, because we're confident. And I don't think
we've lost because we've lost our confidence. Now we we
we did miss some free throws in our last game
against Tennessee that would have made a big difference. Okay,
and sometimes confidence the free free to line, you know,

(09:55):
can can be a factor. But the three teams we
lost to, we lost to a four seed at six
say them, We lost to a two set in Alabama
and lost to a two seat. So we lost to all,
you know, really really good teams. But all I can
tell you is the practices have been good, the attitude
has been really good, and we're you know, we're excited
about playing and we're you know, we're in a good

(10:17):
position to finish this thing, right.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Having been to the final four income oh so close, right?
Losing it just a crazy, crazy, controversial call. Uh, you know,
you've won this thing in the Division two level, But
how do you not get ahead of yourself, right, because
I just wonder, like you all, every coach has that
and even you know as players, you have it where
you think of all the things you should have done,

(10:39):
and I've done this, we would have won the national championship.
How do you not get ahead of yourselves to game
five in game six when you got to worry about
games one through four?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well, did you know the answer to that? It's real simple.
Right now, I can only see four other teams in
this tournament, and that's same for instance in Alabama State, Creighton,
and Louisville. And we are in a tournament. We're going
to play two game games, and one of those four
teams or five including Auburn, is advancing to the sweet sixteenth.
And that's what we're focused on. Truly. I'm not even

(11:10):
sure what's next weekend. You know, I think they should
stay the two. I think I was States in our
bracket too, But I mean, I'm really not looking ahead.
I'm just taking a look at this right now and
making our making sure our team is at the same time.
But I will say this, I've never been a one seat,
but I was born to be a twelve seat. Okay,
I was born a twelve seat. Okay, and so but

(11:33):
we do have a team that I feel like I
should get to the final four. I'm going to feel
like we should. I feel like we're good enough to
And what you would like to have happened is you
would like along the way, if you do lose, you
would like for somebody to beat you, like somebody really
played exceptionally well, and as a result of playing exceptionally well,

(11:55):
we lost. And that's like the position I had to
put my team in right now.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, it is weird.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Right twenty years ago, you took UWM to the Sweet sixteen,
right now, and you know, and and it was all,
it was all, we're the Hunter.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Now you're the Hunt dead. That's that.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's an amazing kind of transformation. But it's it's different
for you. It's different for Auburn now. I I Albert
was a one seed. We played against him in the
second round in ninety nine. Chris Porter, Doc Robinson, Scott
Polson I think was his name. He lived, Oh, he
lit us up in Indy. Really close game. We lost.

(12:31):
But it's a it's a different thing because because the
crowd turns on you, right like if you that game
is closed. All of a sudden, you look up, You're like,
hold on, wait, why how do we get How did
this become a road game? Have you ever experienced Have
you experienced that yet in the tournament where you've experienced
being in a road game, but when you're the favorite
and suddenly the crowd turns on you because everyone cheers

(12:54):
for the upset.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, well we we felt that way last year at
in Manzaga against against UH where we're we're against you,
but you know what, We're gonna have plenty of people
from Auburn and Lexington. The crowd made sure that the
crowd may turn on us. That's fine. Uh. And I've
been cross turned on me my whole life. So I

(13:16):
don't care, I Doug. I want to be I want
to be the coach that everybody else in the league hates. Okay,
because you know why they You know when the road
teams actually like opposing coaches. They like opposing coaches that
can't beat their team. I'm gonna bring a team and
that's gonna be able to beat you tonight. And I
don't care if you like me or not. Get over it.
And so I've been booting my whole life. That's like,

(13:37):
my name is Bruce. So they when I come out,
they're already brewing me. And so I'm I'm used to it.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
All right.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I know you got to go, But I got two things. First,
I'm thinking late October exhibition game.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
We raise money.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hold on, we raise money for any Israeli cause you
would like. Okay, we get mister to sponsor it at
the Rest Center, and then we go and we and
then we go in my treat, we go to lambeau
Field afterwards.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Let's let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is a no, give me a yes, Bruce.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Hey, listen, I as you know, I really I try
to raise a lot of money for Israel obvious Israel ki.
But when it comes to Auburn basketball, I got to
raise some money. Money.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Hey, we can do we can do that, listen, we
can definitely. We can definitely do that too. Last thing,
have your birthday?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah? How about that? Hey, listen, when you become a
senior citizen, do you stop celebrating birthdays? That's what I
want to know, because I'm not a senior citizen. My
brandy makes so much funny. I'm getting all kind of
mail from medicaid. I'm getting all these a r P cards.
I now can get a senior cit again early bird
discount and being Jewish, I'm looking for all that. I'm

(14:50):
looking for a discount on a medal or I'm looking
for that senior citizen discount. I can say that.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
By the way, we know what your age is. Fitzing
all over yourself, Bruce and Luck. We'll see in San Antonio,
hopefully on the sidelines. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Have birthday. I miss you, my friend.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I missed it to you in kitchen. All right, We'll
see it actually at La Lambo Field in October. I
did make the pitch.

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Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's not getting.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's time for.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
The Midway.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
So we had a little it was a very short
back and forth on text earlier today guys and I
wanted to throw out another idea for midway, and I mean,
in all honesty, it's going to be more of a
geek out session for me and Dan.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So I just again, I start with that as the admittance.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, So, Jay Stu, yours was what a celebrity bracket
is that what you.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Want to do.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Oh no, no, no, I this timmy year. You see
a bunch of those ironic brackets, like you know, worst
haircut on a TV show and then they'll give sixty five.
There's just a bunch of those things. I was just
wondering to what if you've noticed anything that you actually
thought were pretty funny?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
The other one I thought was the the I saw
that doctor pimple Popper somebody had her bracket on the
March Madness site, like brackets I didn't know I needed
to see. I've apparently seen this. It's it's almost like
seeing your parents naked. Like I didn't need to see that.
I could have I could have done with that that right.

(17:32):
The one that I was thinking of was your favorite
your your favorite upset.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
In the in the in the first round.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
And I'll get to kind of the least reason why,
but just and and kind of what you remember about
that upset? So, Dan, I think I know which one
you're gonna pick up the three?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right? You would pick the last one? You?

Speaker 6 (17:58):
Oh, I don't know what your three are? All of
the topics. Yes, oh, I thought you were talking about
upsets in the NCAA tournament. Yeah, yeah, I'm totally fine.
I told Jason during the break, I was good to
talk about the coverage of the NCAA tournament. What I
love and hate about it. I think it's an interesting conversation.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
What do you I could do that one, Jace, do
you want to make final ruling? What do you want
to do?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean, all these are good for me, So you
guys have at it.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Man, let's do the coverage thing, because I've actually covered
the tournament both radio and TV. I've worked for CBS
for five years cover the tournament. I've played in the tournament,
and then I've worked for Westwood One for the last
I don't know seven years covering the tournament, the final four.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
All right, so Dan, let me start with what you like.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
So I like the presentation of selection Sunday and how
it's done. The bracket There is no there is no
more dilly dallying at the top. They've got it down
to an hour. So you got to get these brackets
in and you got to get is interview with the
committee chair or in this year's case, vice chair as

(19:05):
well within the sixty minutes. So when three o'clock local
time on the West Coast hit six o'clock Eastern, they
dive in, everybody's there, and all of a sudden, boom,
a graphic is up. It's the number one overall seed
and we are offing running.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
I love that, and it is boom boom, boom boom.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
It's thirty five minutes of amazing television in a sports
in a sports realm. And in fact, and listen, I've barstool,
I know, kind of did something like this this week.
I've done this for a decade, Doug, and I think
I've said it on the show about five times because
draft lottery is up there for me NFL Draft, but

(19:45):
selection show is the best non sporting sporting event that
there is. And the drama that they provide and how
now CBS does it in that thirty five minutes is amazing.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Okay, So then what don't you like?

Speaker 6 (20:00):
I don't like when Seth Davis gives all of his
upset picks during that sixty minute show. And I don't
know Seth Davis personally. In my interactions with him, he's
been fine, Doug. I know you know him a lot better.
I don't have a personal vendetta against Seth Davis, although
one time I brought him on and I kind of

(20:20):
pigeonholed him as a college basketball guy, and he's like, well.

Speaker 7 (20:22):
I cover all sports, so that may have been more.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
My bad, but that's the fun of making out your
bracket is to pick an upset and then you get
to tell people about it. He ruins it by picking
eight upsets, and he's had the bracket before anybody. So
it's just that really annoys me, and I'm actually glad
I get to do the selection show during that time

(20:45):
because then I don't have to hear the upsets that
he's picked.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, I'll say this about Seth. He's a friend. I
disagree with.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
A lot of his a lot of how he does it. Now.
Part of it is also how it's produced.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right in that they you know, theyre like, hey, let's
just get your upsets in there, just throw them in there.
I think it's way too tight a show. I don't
think it needs to be it needs to be an hour.
I think it could be a lot longer, and I
think you can go through and talk about the brackets
and talk about the games and then have some substance

(21:25):
for why you're picking it. I think my issue is
Seth and his upset picks is I don't know if
there's actually anything other than like, like you could find
a stat if you want.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
But Seth's kind of this curious.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Wasn't a coach, not an insider, but he's been doing
it so long they were like, oh, okay, we'll go
along with it, and he clearly knows what's going on
in the sport. I just I would like a more
substantive here's who I'm picking and why. Here's who I'm
picking and why. And again, I think there's plenty of time.
You're the only ones with the bracket, so keep the
bracket at the end, give us more time, go through

(22:01):
the games and pick your upsets.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
And I think that would be fascinating.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I actually think you can also do a alternate bracket,
like if this then that right, if.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
There's a twelve five up set, well then I like
this team.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
But if not, the five wins and I like this
team in ears what because of matchups and so on
so forth.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Right, So yeah, but I would say if I was
gonna pick on sets upsets, it it would be why.
You gotta give me a why? Like if I tell you,
I don't think I would state it's getting out the
first weekend. It's not because I don't think Alway State's good.
I just think they're a totally different team like Keishauane
Gilbert just are well, you know, like those type of things,

(22:43):
which when I did the show, I would pick an
upset in a bracket just because I thought it was
gonna be an upset because I thought, you know, somebody
gets hurt or I like the team and that's it,
and you work it in with whatever your fifteen seconds
are on that game.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
I think that there's there's a way to massage it
in there. What makes that win gets it in there? Yeah,
it's just it's like and then I like BYU to
the Elite eight, it just is like, Okay, hold on,
I'm just finding out who's in BYU's region. Yes, like
I need to hold on. Yeah, seriously hold on. It's

(23:16):
not a good job, but I will say I was
that that was a pretty good imitation of me doing
my drop. I actually disagree with you where I think
that the radio job of the sixty minutes makes it
just for let's get the brackets in there, Let's get
the questions and then let's get out and then allows
the other entities US, ESPN, CBS Sports Network to now

(23:38):
talk about it over the next three or four days.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
That's what that's what I like about it.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I I I agree that's what it does.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
If I was running CBS, no way, I would give
that power to everybody else.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I just would. I want people to watch the Slash show.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I want to what they're gonna watch till the end,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna take my sweet time and
I'm gonna, you know, I don't care about the the
video of the team getting in the celebration, like I know,
that's it's.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Especially when they're already in. Like I like the bubble
ones where it's like they haven't shared yet. That's because
half the brackets now it's nervous time.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I would also hold the bubble ones until the very end,
you know, hold the first four until the very end,
leave those blank and then at the very end. And
then I think that the hard part is during the
games and covering the games when you have people that
don't cover college basketball, and I understand that that's you know,

(24:34):
Turner is going to start to have more college sports.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
But some of their.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Guys, you know, I think you like stan Ben Gundy.
He was calling a game Thursday night. I was I
was watching last Thursday, I was watching an NBA game.
I flipped over for second He's calling it, and I'm like,
why didn't somebody put him on a college basketball tournament
so that he you know, because when you're in a tournament,
you talk to all the coaches, you get a better feel,

(24:59):
you make connections. I don't know, I just I think
everybody feels that way about it.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I will say that CBS, the CBS guys, they're better
now than when I first started there because when I
first started there, they didn't have a lot of games
on CBS supports network, and because of it, they had,
you know, you had guys who were CBS guys that
had called you know, a handful of games all year,
and they called NBA games rest of the year, and

(25:25):
they really seemed to not be kind of in the
weeds of college basketball, not that you have to be,
but especially now with where you have, you know, multiple
transfers and you got to tell stories and why guy
was in the transfer portal, what it was like like.
Those stories are what what draws people in, what draws
people in? And I think the job of a broadcaster

(25:48):
as a storyteller. I also I do think they're played
by play guys are outstanding.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I've worked with several of them.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Uh they're you know, and all the play by play
guys are really really good and so uh yeah, I
mean that's now, what about like a hybrid of the Midway?

Speaker 6 (26:05):
If I were to say, well, can I just ask
Jason and Sam do you have broadcast stuff?

Speaker 7 (26:10):
Are you guys? I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I don't think what Doug was just describing. I never
thought that was fair to the actual analyst. Like if
you asked Charles Barkley, in all honesty, do you like
doing it? He might be like, yeah, it's a change
of pace. I'm just worn out of my NBA by
that time. It's a change of pace for me. Well,
that doesn't really serve the viewer, because like seeing a

(26:32):
guy that's not prepared, knowing he's not prepared and he's
just kind of winging it. I don't know how that
maximizes your broadcast. I don't think it's fair to the viewer.
I don't think it's fair to the person that you're
putting in that position. I thought it was an odd
decision back then. I just asked Sam if they're still
doing that, and I googled it, and I'm good at
the Google. Sam isn't. And it looks like Barkley's going

(26:55):
to be doing this tournament, right, Yeah, yeah, I don't
think that's fair to him, to him or the viewer.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I mean, look, I think that once Sparkley gets into
the Sweet sixteen and they have a better feel for
feel for the games and the stories whatever, I think,
then the entertainment and they've done a good job. And
now putting Clark Kellogg with those guys too, and Clark,
I mean, Clark knows a lot and shares a lot
with them, but I generally think, yeah, it's a that's

(27:29):
a hard point. And Fox used to have that demere
win Fox before they had college football, they had a
couple of bowl games. I want to say, Jimmy Johnson
covered the Cotton Bowl one year, yes, and it was
so uncomfortable, so uncomfortable, And Jimmy Jwnes was a great
college football coach, but like, you didn't cover college football,
so you don't have those reference points.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
You just don't.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I Actually, when I was a kid, my dad would
pull me out of school and I would go down to.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Go down to it. There's a sports bar, and I
think it was in.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Costa Mesa, and we could It had all the big
satellites so we could watch all the games. I don't
think that's necessary now, like with my son, he's in
spring break now, but when he's in school, like they
all watch it on their chromebooks and they watched on
their phones, you don't actually have to get it. It's
kind of My point is the ease by which you

(28:27):
can get a sporting event on a telephone. The fact
that every kid middle school above has a has a
has a cell phone. It takes away the old national
holiday where the kid was always coming down with some
sort of flu or or throat issue on a Thursday
and Friday of the tournament. It's almost too easy to
get every game.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
One of my earliest memories was was it Ball State
in Oregon State? Watching it in my junior high school
library where Rick Majeris and Ball State upset Gary Payton
and Oregon State in the NCAA tournament. Watching it on
one of the TVs on the big carts that they

(29:10):
would wheel into your room. The librarian let us put
the games on during our study haul, and we got
to see ball State upset Oregon State.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Ball State was coached by Rick bageris too right?

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Yeah that's what you said.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yep, yeah, yeah, midw I remember.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
It's funny that that yesterday we had Brendon heyward On
hayward On and he was talking about when Harold the
show Arsenal lit them up.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I thought that was great.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's also the names that you remember right now, Ali
Fruckminesh memorable.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
When he's at Northern he was my classmate. Now yeah,
now he's at Colorado State as an assistant.

Speaker 8 (29:50):
You went to the same high school, Sam, Yeah, me,
and he was a couple of years younger than me.
But I think he when I was a senior, he
was like a sophomore. But yeah, uh we had a
lot of mutual friends.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Well it was your classmate. He wasn't in the same
class as you were, even actually the same class.

Speaker 8 (30:05):
Okay, this is what you do, Doug. You dig down
on something that's not important. He was in he was
a classmate, Like he's a high school classmate. He doesn't
have to be in my class I'm actually I'm a
I'm on Sam's side on this.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, like, oh yeah, Jay Stu.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
I think if you went to the same school and
the uh just kind of fudge together. Yeah, I think
I think it's in play.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, with that, it's in play.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
But would that be a true like classmate is Well,
you didn't say friends Fred Lee.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
He's a. He's a he's a high school. He's an
associated actually okay college.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So so Deshaun Foster. We had him on UCLA's head coach.
Now we I loosely teammates. Here's how he was a freshman.
I was a senior okay, Uh for the playoffs. I
think he got to dress and got to warm.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Up with this.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I think he was on technically on the team. I
don't remember if he if he dressed in the playoff games.
I want to say he was at practice and so
that's how I remember it. But if I said, like,
he's my teammate, like, he doesn't appear in any team picture, right,
So that would be lying and he wouldn't really be

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a classmate even though he went to the same high school.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I would just say we went to the same high school.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
Sure, all right, well, but just just for the sake
of simplicity and time, I just said classmate.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
I think actually I think that's fair. And I commend Sam,
who I thought would go the other way, like like
I would say that Sam would have said, like he's
a friend, you know, when maybe he wasn't. But he
not only said not only is he not in the quaintance, Yeah,
he's just a classmate.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
That's a good word. Thought it was good.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
Because we have a very close mutual friend guy named RJ.
So we're kind of like two ven diagrams. We were
on the rings from the outside and our buddy RJ
was in the middle.

Speaker 7 (31:49):
Yeah, that's good, We're good.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
He's always a point of pride for us. Ali furrokmini Ish.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I remember when I was a junior in high school,
Ucla played Tulsa and Tulsa smoked him. Pooh Williamson was
their point guard. Shay Seals was their best player. And
this is the year before UCLA won the national championship.
They played in Oklahoma City, I believe was where the

(32:17):
where the first and second round was and they asked,
I think they asked ed O'Bannon do you know where
Tulsa is?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
And he's like, I got no idea. I got no idea.
They're like, yeah, it's like an hour and a half
from here. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Anyway, that was like kind of the calling card. But
I remember that game distinctly. And then of course the
next year it was the second game, second round when
and I think yesterday was the anniversary of it. Right,
the Tayas Edney four point eight seconds length of the
court shoots the layup otherwise they lose that game in
the second round to Missouri, which was in Boise. And

(32:53):
of course I think Dan and I are aligned on
this one. The reason everybody remembers it was in Boise
was because because they had everybody got to keep their
traditional home courts, yes, and which now I think Albertson Arena.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
It?

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Yeah, it sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
They may have changed names. I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I apologize to our affiliate and poison, but now they
have to do these standard courts and they just say
the name of the site at the end of the court.
And I think most of us traditionalists like the keep
a court.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Well, it's funny to look back because it really is
an old look when you look at the old courts.
Funny story about that game. Me and my buddies from
high school who were friends, a group of us. We're
in Austin, Texas for the NCAA tournament first and second rounds.
They announced on the PA at the old Frank Irwin
Center that Missouri beat UCLA seventy four to sixty five.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
So we're all. I call my goodness.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Arkansas was in the bracket, they were in our region,
their fans were there, you know, a big gasp, and
then they had to come on and say correction, UCLA
won seventy five seventy four, got the score wrong. I'll
never forget that, But you're right. Personalized courts. Remember when
the NCUBLEA didn't even decipher. They just were all black

(34:10):
with the city name in blue, and it ruined highlights
Because of what Doug is talking about. We remember the
Tya Sedney for the greatness of it, but the court
sure as heck helps a lot. Danny Aing's going coast
to coast in Atlanta at the Omni for BYU against
Notre Dame is one that I'll never forget. James Forrest,

(34:31):
I remember hitting the shot because I was there in
Milwaukee at the old Bradley Center Green Court. But there
was that time where the NCUBA tried to generalize all
the courts and make them all the same, and it
ruined it because every game looked identical and it kind
of took away from capturing some of those moments. Now
they look similar, but there's different coloring around.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Yeah, speaking of borders on courts, because that's what I
addressed there. Really annoyed by ESPN putting this border around
the screen. I know they don't care about college basketball
and that the women's college Basketball Tournament is their entity,
but I don't know how many times I've looked up
over the past time days the scores or just looking
at the matchups and I'm like, wait, Utah is not

(35:14):
in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Yeah, And then I'm looking like.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
I listen, the women's game is taken off. You guys
have your opinion. Sam loves it. I know you and
Jay maybe aren't the biggest of fans.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
I get it. I'm whatever about.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
It, but there's no way you could go fifty to
fifty on that information.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
No, just can't do it. It's stupid. You gotta cycle
through the men's tournament.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It's so disingenuous.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yes, yes, how about this. I think Doug didn't I
want to say, you sent me a reel of a
comedian has an entire bit about this how he looked
up that Richmond beat Duke and he's like, whoa, whoa,
my brackets screwed up. And then and then he just
went off on women's sports. I gotta find that another.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
That Bilberg has a new one where he talks about
how much smarter women are the men. Yet you know,
men have so dominated the world and it's just got
to make them so upset. But why don't women support
the w NBA right, Like, why don't feminis support it's
it's wildly, wildly entertained.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
Well, and I'll even even say this, I mean, you know,
our parties to be at Fox Sports one. I wish
they would do more with college basketball during this week.
So one week thing. It's like when you have square
dancing and gym. Just if you don't like it, okay,
deal with it. Spring on people. I understand the NFL
is busy. Oh yeah, in elementary school, like one week
you got to do square dancing, you got to do

(36:36):
the parachute thing for balls and stuff stuff like that,
Like it wasn't like a normal gym class.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
But maybe those little scooters you'd sit on your push
yourself around with your legs, and maybe it's more of
a hockey thing where it's like, Okay, well we never
talk about hockey, so why would we now?

Speaker 7 (36:51):
Maybe they're taking like that approach.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
But I tip the cap the CBS Sports Network is
they are all in. I like their personalities. I think
they've got really good personality all of these and talking
about the college game, I.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
Think they do. I think they do a great job.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Good stuff. That's a midway.

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Speaker 2 (37:19):
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Speaker 2 (37:32):
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Speaker 1 (37:38):
What was it that we were going to argue about
Jay stew we had. We had a really good argument set.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Up for uh, well, the Major League Baseball season opens
in less than twelve hours, and it's a sham. I
think it is, but you don't.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
It's a sham and a mockery. It's a sham mockery. Yeah,
uh well, let me just can I pitch you on something?

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Pitch me on it?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (37:59):
And Dan, I want your your reaction the same thing
with you, Sammy.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
Right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
So I'm not going to say that that we're tapped
out of sports in the United States, but we're getting there.
We're getting close, and for major League Baseball specifically, like
we're kind of running a little bit on fumes.

Speaker 9 (38:24):
The business is obviously very good.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Anyone who tells you like major League Baseball is going
to die the next five years, like, no, they wouldn't
be giving out seventy million dollars per year contracts if
it was going to die and if they weren't making
lots and lots and lots of money.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Is that okay? Is that?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Is that a fair premise? But it's not like you're like, Wow,
baseball is on the rise, right, They're just everybody wants
a team that everything's hot. I'm not demeaning the young
talent in Major League Baseball, but we're a little bit
tapped out in baseball. So you got to create new revenues.

(39:01):
You've got to expand since you're you're you have a
shrinking what's the market when you have your your percentage
of the market.

Speaker 9 (39:12):
What's that called?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Help me out?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I'm the one who wins. Yeah, you have a shrinking
market share. You don't have expanding market share. You have
a shrinking market share. Right the NFL, the NFL, the NFL,
college football, NBA, maybe stable, maybe shrinking.

Speaker 9 (39:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I think it's growing, continues to grow. Football is growing internationally,
especially more in Europe than in Asia. But baseball is
big in Asia. Baseball is big in Japan. Does anybody
have any dispute that?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
And they've done the preseason games, the spring training games
in Japan before, right, they've done a series of all
kinds of different games before. Does anybody remember them?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
No?

Speaker 9 (39:56):
So you have the best baseball player possibly in the
history of the sport who's from Japan, and he happens
to play for the defending World Series champions. So I
don't understand any sort of negativity towards giving them real

(40:18):
games and trying to expand your market share in a
burgeoning market and in a different part of the world
where here we're kind of tapped out, or like, eh,
let me know when October comes. Oh, what do you think, buyer?

Speaker 7 (40:34):
You hate it?

Speaker 9 (40:35):
You like it?

Speaker 7 (40:36):
I have no problem with it.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
And if to what you're saying is true, then I
do think that not that Japan is a new market
for baseball, but you are trying to find dollars elsewhere.
I just I subscribe to the theory of baseball has
become a bit like college basketball. It is regional and
in a way a bit like college football, where if

(41:00):
your team is good, your fans are in it. They
are coming to the ballpark, they're there every weekend. But
it maybe doesn't grab a hold of things nationally, which
may be a reason why Major League Baseball and Major
League Baseball has played They've played games in Japan, as
you mentioned, or overseas that have been regular season games.
They weren't Cactus League play, you know games, or grape

(41:22):
Fruit League plays. They were games between the Mariners and A's.
It's just now I think it draws more attention because
it's Otani and the Dodgers and Cubs.

Speaker 9 (41:32):
Okay, Jay Stu, what do you hate so much about it?

Speaker 4 (41:34):
All right, So just a couple of things about your theory.
Your premise is that it's better for the revenues of
Major League Baseball owners to spend regular season games overseas.
I don't know if that's the case. I don't care

(41:54):
about the revenues of Major League owners. I care about me.
I care about American fans that Baseball has done a
very good job of alienating over the past twenty years.
They need to I guess they need to get back
the trust and the interest of the American audience because

(42:15):
that ultimately is what's going to pay their bills. I
think having a regular season game in Japan is not
going to increase the fervor. In other words, if you
were to go up to any Japanese person that's going
to attend the game in ten hours and say, would
you have been less excited to come here to watch
sho heyo Tawni your idol if it was a regular

(42:38):
season major league game or an exhibition game, they would answer,
I am not less excited to see an exhibition game. Er.
I just want to see him. So I don't know
who we're servicing there. We have a game that's going
to start at three am on the West Coast for
the world champion Dodgers, as you pointed out, and then

(42:59):
a week later the entire league's going to start. It
just doesn't make any sense. Also to start a week
of the NCAA tournament. Again, you're you're trying to fight
for attention and eyes, and you're losing that battle. I
don't think anyone in baseball says were tapped out of
the American market. I think most of those people are like,

(43:20):
how do we get more eyes or retain the eyes
that we've always had, and they're losing that by starting
a game at three am Pacific time.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
All right, Well, all I can tell you is Manfred
has sped up the game. Manfred has gotten athleticism back
of the game. With the base path, Manfred has made
a lot of really good decisions.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I like those two. I like those two.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Okay, so you get one not every not every not
everyone is going to hit. And then two, there are
plenty of people that didn't like things that he's done.
That's worked out pretty well. So obviously you hate that.
I love it. Let's recap our thoughts on the weekend
with a little hate.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
What did you love? God?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I love you?

Speaker 7 (44:03):
And what did you hate?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
These player?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Hays Stuck gallib Show, Fox Sports Radio, Tyrack dot Com Studios.

Speaker 9 (44:13):
What'd you love from the weekend? Dan Bira would you
love in the weekend?

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Okay, this is very off the wall and it's very
very inside, but you were talking with Jeff Goodman earlier
about U see Riverside accepting two bids, the tournaments, the craziness.
Have you guys seen the bracket for the CBI and
I suggest any listener just go and take a look

(44:38):
at CBI Toorney.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
That's what it's called.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
It's the Purple College Basketball Invitational, but it's at CBI Toorney.
It is a bracket that I've I don't know why
it's made this way, but it's just hilarious in terms
of because they I don't even know how many teams
they have Doug nine eleven. I think they have eleven
school in the bracket. So you have one bracket that's

(45:03):
really long. You've got three of them having a bye.
I think they're all playing in one spot. It just
It made me chuckle when I looked at the winner
of Illinois State and Presbyterian gets an automatic bid to
the semi finals. But the reason why it's done like
that is because they only have It's just it's a mess.

(45:23):
I love the Sun Belt bracket. I love the West
Coast Conference bracket, and then when I saw this bracket
and the CBI of I haven't seen any bracket like
that before. Ia, Sam, do you have a brought up?
Do you have a picture of it at CBI Toorney,
I've never I'm sorry now, I thought you were actually looking.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
There's the crown that's put on by Fox.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
But unfortunately schools that could be aligned for that, like
Ohio State has declined an invite to play in that.
That's going to be a week long event in Las Vegas.
But I just had a big chuckle over this CBI bracket.
The reason they had to do it is because they're
playing the game on a certain day. But there's just
extra for a long line of brackets. And this is
what we get when you don't make the NCAA tournament.

(46:04):
Pure chaos. But part of the Riverside deal, as Jeff
Goodman explained, was also a part of my love in
two tournaments at the same time.

Speaker 9 (46:11):
It's amazing.

Speaker 8 (46:12):
And you need a television subscription to watch the first
round in the quarterfinals something called flow Hoops.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
Yes, subscription required.

Speaker 8 (46:21):
Oh no, Unfortunately, I just pulled up a list of
the games.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
Not the actual brack crowd was pretty good.

Speaker 6 (46:26):
Quite the crowd is supposed to be all, you know,
TV partners of Fox and those that don't make it.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
But that's what I that's it was just a fun.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
I'm not gonna say which one, but we were. There's
two that we were invited to and I was just like, yeah,
we don't our guys. We had so many injuries at
the end of the year. Some of these like we
won four games, like, it's not gonna look great for
you guys, Like, yeah, but people watch, I get attention,
like I'd love to, but.

Speaker 9 (46:55):
My guys are fried.

Speaker 8 (46:56):
Some of these, like lesser known postseason tournaments you pay
to get in, right, Yes, So it's yes. I think
it's eventually gonna have to be the opposite. They're gonna
have to pay these teams because but okay, do you
know why they pay the team's paying, do you know
why they pay? Tell me because the coaches want to
get twenty wins.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
But also what about like that team, Well, do just
tell you though, what about the coaches want to get
twenty wins?

Speaker 7 (47:21):
They want to get twenty wins.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
But so then they go like, ah, they got my
twenty one seasons we had.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
You got slim pickings with some of these some of
these uh And I feel like you you have so
many postseason tournaments outside of the n i T and
NCAAA that you like have to pay some of these
teams to get in. I don't know, it just seems like, uh,
like if I think the.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Teams in the Crown are getting are getting paid some yeah,
there's some nil stuff yeah too, right.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Again, I don't know if that's sustainable either, because I mean, look,
are people gonna.

Speaker 9 (47:50):
Gamble on it?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (47:51):
Are they gonna watch it?

Speaker 4 (47:53):
No?

Speaker 8 (47:54):
You got you got teams that missed the NCAA tournament
were like, we're not even gonna go to n I T.

Speaker 7 (47:58):
We're good.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
So Vegas is the only place this actually works because
you can do a trade for the rooms. Right, so
the cost is less yea for all things involved. The
cost is less for the flights, the other genius to
fought what Fox is doing, Like whoever's putting on I
gotta figure out. I forget what because foxes lay us
the third party to put the tournament on. It's really
smart because they're doing it. I think it's the weekend

(48:22):
before the final four. The week before the final four, yeah,
a little while. Yeah, so they have time to book
all the flights and everybody will fly commercial and it
won't be nearly as expensive, so there's a lot of
cost savings there.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
But like.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
The portal's open, it's gonna be a mess. Like the
portal opens Monday, it's a mess, dude, Like you're really
are you going to play a guy who's in the portal?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
And then there'll be guys that, like everybody knows is
going in the portal, and they're not gonna put themselves
in the portals. Here's another one. Okay, some schools, I
don't know how everybody works. Some schools, I think most schools.
The second you go into the portal, you stop receiving

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your compensation, your nil compensation, which is paid out monthly.
So the portal opens March twenty fourth, but you wait
April second or third, they'll be a rush to the
portal because kids will get their check and then go
into the portal.

Speaker 9 (49:28):
A little bit of dirty pool there.

Speaker 8 (49:29):
I think we need some tweaking for the portal. Obviously
in football and basketball, dates tweak the dates.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I don't like that the portals open during the NCA turn,
But I will also tell you the portals already open.

Speaker 7 (49:42):
Yeah, yeah, I have.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
Not spoken era Senata. Have you spoken to a player
who is in the portal?

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Era?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I have not spoken to a player in the portal.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
But we get sent names and lists by third and
fourth parties all the time, and you just kind of
got to be at the ready and you got to
figure out who's gonna stay from your group as well.
You know you'll have somebody walk in and surprise you
when the portal Opensprus. But anyway, back to the Crown.

(50:14):
The Crown's got some interesting names, right, But I just wonder,
like Tyson Dagenhart's the all time lean score at Boise State.
Is he gonna play against George Washington on March the
thirty first? Is Patrick McCaffrey going to play for Butler
against Utah? Like, hey, let's go that one last game?
And who is he gonna play with I don't know,
it's crazy crazy. Villanova fired their coach, but they're in

(50:38):
the crown. Who's coaching the team, who's going to play
for the team?

Speaker 9 (50:44):
Good luck, good luck.

Speaker 7 (50:46):
It is messy.

Speaker 8 (50:47):
Let's at least pretend to focus on basketball and then
have a date where we can stop pretending about pretending
we're not focused on the portal and then actually engage
that sort.

Speaker 9 (50:57):
It sucks, Jay s due. Some of you lovegain all right.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
So I had my my baseball draft, my fantasy draft
at my buddy Pete's place. I drafted Mookie Bets in
the first round, only to find out that he's lost
fifteen pounds in two days and likely has dysentery. So
that'll be cool.

Speaker 9 (51:13):
Was he an Oregon trail?

Speaker 7 (51:15):
Was up?

Speaker 9 (51:15):
Was he on Orgon trail?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I think it was an Oregon trail.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
Ran out of dried hamhocks too, bummer.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
So I'm making my way back on the five from
from Wahabra and I tune into Fox Sports Radio to
hear Dan Byer and Aaron Torres doing the selection show.
And I'm a huge fan of listening to people that
know what they're talking about, that are excited about what
they're talking about. You just can't. You can't coach that.

(51:44):
You can't bottle that up. You can't. That enthusiasm is infectious.
I will say this, as all these conversations are being
had around the business about how to keep radio very
relevant and make a lot of money, there's a lot
of talk about maybe going towards the narrow casting that

(52:04):
podcast offer. Hearing people talk about something they know very
well and are excited to talk about is a good listen.
Dan Bayer and Aaron Torres. That was a thrill yesterday
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
If you haven't listened to it, you could access it
on our podcast FSR Weekends. It's it'll give you everything
you need to know. Well done. I love that, Dan,
I love it.

Speaker 6 (52:29):
It's always a rush, as Doug can tell you, when
the brackets are coming out. We're on for three hours
and smack dab in the middle of it is when
the brackets are released, and there is something.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
About seas brackets pop.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
Up and CBS does keep it going at that point,
and then thirty five minutes we had the brackets and
then then it's breaking everything down and that's fun.

Speaker 7 (52:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (52:51):
Appreciate that, Sam, send me love you, William.

Speaker 8 (52:54):
All Right, I guess my love and my hate from
the weekend is actually going to be stuff that happened
on a Friday and a Monday.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
Maybe a Sunday night, but a Friday Monday. We'll just
throw that.

Speaker 8 (53:02):
It's one long Saint Patrick's Day weekend. Dan, I'm still
riding high from my initial descent, absolute domination for a Friday.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
Yeah, Sam killed it. You and Carrie, will you? You?
And Monsey?

Speaker 8 (53:15):
I guess kind of you came up with this game
you present with this game of guess if this these
initials are a real conference in basketball or made up?

Speaker 7 (53:24):
And initial descent initial descent. I had a blast. He
was perfect. I was perfect. I bowled a three hundred.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
Because you know, when I look at all the scores
on any given weekend during college basketball season, I open
up that Division one and we go down the list.
We go down the list, and I dominated. And I'm
still riding high of that. So that was my love
of the weekend. Chapping on a Friday.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
Sam knew there was a Summit League. Also knew there
wasn't a Human League. I did, Yes, the Human League.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
Maybe maybe We'll just have one giant conference in like
twenty five years, and it'll be called the Human League.
And there's also the Human Fund, which is I think
is a Seinfield reference, right, yeah, Human Fund?

Speaker 7 (54:00):
Yes, yea. Georgia's mad.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Did you guys mention that their second single fascination was
a better song Human League?

Speaker 6 (54:08):
I like Human And I didn't realize until recently that
was a Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis.

Speaker 7 (54:14):
So I was things I found out today. I did
not realize that the old what was it that Carrie
got tripped up on?

Speaker 6 (54:22):
It got Doug you'll appreciate this. We gave him C
A A and he's like, oh, that's the that's the representation,
that's the agents. But it was also a conference.

Speaker 9 (54:32):
Yeah, colonial, yeah, yes.

Speaker 7 (54:37):
The FML was not a league, by the way, it
was not.

Speaker 8 (54:40):
There's not a lot of conferences that are called leagues,
like the Summit League, I think is the only one,
right sure, And so like you're thinking, like, I know,
there's not a ton of leagues league leagues.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Go ahead, Uh what I love for the weekend, I
got to hang out my son man. He's turned sixteen
on Wednesday. Obviously, been a hard season, and hard for
me personally spending time away from him.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Uh but uh.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Uh surprising him with taking him to Rolling Loud, Like, dude,
he's grown. He's grown three inches in the last three months,
so he's going through a bit of a gross spurt
finally kind of catching up.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
And I like five five six ers was getting up
to them getting there.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
So but just the joy from him, and uh, you
know one of the things and I have again, I
have a good group. Every coach you hear talk about
their team over the next four weeks and be like, oh,
we got great kids. I really do have good young men.
But the one thing we're trying to like be cautious

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of is guys who are.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
So word.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
They're not entitled, you know, and they're thankful for all
the opportunities that they're given. So yeah, my son showed
me some of that where he's just super thankful, super
kind about it, respectful, good stuff. All right, let's get
to what we hated from the weekend. Our resident hater

(56:17):
is Jason Stewart.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Jay Stu what it's kind of the antithesis of what
I loved. So the antithesis of tourism, Bayer loving and
knowing a lot about what they were talking about. Are
is all the talk show hosts since the selections that
are just completely talking out of their backside, like they
they haven't watched a second of college basketball, but all

(56:38):
of a sudden they know that Louisville got jobbed, they
got horrible draw How could they possibly do that? And
then they talk to you with conviction about who's going
to be in the Elite eight, Like they ignore the
sport for four or five months, and then now on
Sunday Night through the next three weeks they're talking about
it with expertise that ann and I hate that. And

(57:02):
also it's also unfair that guys like Aaron Torres and
Doug and you know people in the past that have
been paid to be an expert on the sport. It's
unfair that they need to submit their brackets. I think
it should be an industry wide rule that people that
follow the sport closest should not have to submit their brackets.
All they do is worse than your credibility. It's the

(57:24):
most unpredictable thing in the history of the world.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
I disagree.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Why would you subject experts to that scrutiny.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
I want to see people's majorly.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
I'm want to see people's Baseball Hall of Fame ballots,
so I got to go against that everybody.

Speaker 7 (57:36):
It's got to be transparent, completely transparent.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
Did you guys see that all four of the ESPN
talking heads, as we like to say, but Jay Williams,
J Billis, Rhys Davis and some other guy were all
picked Florida.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
Some other guy.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
I was just a just a personal disc They all
picked Florida to win it.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
All all of them picked Florida.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
So they under unveil their brackets at the end and
every one of them is like, Florida to win, Florida,
to win, Florida to win, Florida to win.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Well, prisoner. I think Todd Golden is a friend of mine.
I actually coached him a little bit when I was
the Bruce Pearl on this team. And Todd's got Todd's fund, dude.
But we do the prisoner of the moment thing all
the time, Like just one the SEC tournament. You know,
I gotta pick them, doesn't mean they won't. I think
they're really really good. The other thing Todd does is

(58:29):
they are completely all in on analytics. Like we do
a lot of things analytically, that are I think a
little bit ahead of the curve. Now obviously doesn't always
play out as such in terms of when we foul,
how we call it timeouts, when we go to score shots,
we take, et cetera, et cetera. But they are all
all advanced metrics. Everything they do. It's really fascinating and

(58:51):
they have very good talent. But it's like kiss the
death when they all pick them and it kiss of
death seems that way?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
All right?

Speaker 9 (59:00):
Who else? Who else said?

Speaker 7 (59:03):
Did you and Goodman talk about South Alabama? I had
to step away for a second. Okay, so they got
the invite.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Well, I was just gonna say they got invited, and
then it got receded, then they got uninvited. I had
to record something when you were talking to him, so
I didn't hear the whole interview. But I'll say this,
I love the Players Championship and Rory McElroy ended up
winning the rain delayed event. It's a nice watch. It
doesn't rise to the level of the majors. I don't
consider it a fifth major, but I do think Sawgrass

(59:30):
brings drama the seventeenth Hall.

Speaker 7 (59:32):
I embrace it.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
I think it's great there's just no place to put
it in March, and you can't have it next weekend.
You can't have it the weekend after. There was a
time when they had it in May. It wasn't great
for the course. They tried to do it on Mother's
Day weekend, that's when the PGA was being played in August.
I just as a college basketball fan, that's what this
time is. And I don't feel that I give full

(59:54):
attention to the Players Championship, But Doug, I don't have
an answer on where this event could go to get
the full hype that it deserves, as we're now a
month away from the Masters. So yeah, a little disappointing.
I hate that it's back to being this way. But
oh well, I don't hate j Billis. I actually like him.

(01:00:17):
I think I consider him a friend.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
But I hate that it continually falls back on a
wrong opinion, which is why are we arguing about these
last two teams in the tournament. They don't matter anyway, right,
I remember this argument with a school called George Mason
when they probably shouldn't have been in the tournament, and

(01:00:42):
they got in the tournament, were in the first four,
and last I checked, they played in the final four.
I remember it with UCLA a couple of years ago
and they were in the first four and went to
the final four. You go back to VCU and it's like,
we have twenty years of data now on the first
four and these last couple of teams in And it's

(01:01:04):
not an absolute, but there's pretty obvious statistical analysis or
just easy analysis that says anybody can come out of
date and continue to win games so many times. The
benefit to play that extra game in Dayton and to
play without kind of fear of losing a game once
you get into the real bracket.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And and Jay is so well respected that no one
calls him on it on ESPN. Nobody goes like, hey, Jay,
have you been saying the same thing for twenty years,
and like go through chapter and verse of all the
teams he got wrong. So I hate that. Sometimes, Hey listen,
it's okay to go like my bad, I'm wrong. And

(01:01:51):
that is love and hate.