March 24, 2025 • 36 mins
As much as Doug hates to say he told you so, he told you so. He predicted a lot of chalk in the tournament because of NIL, and the Sweet 16 played out that way. Doug welcomes Houston head basketball coach Kelvin Sampson onto the show as his Coach's Cougars are in the Sweet 16 again. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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NCAA tournament. And what happened this weekend in a moment.
But Wyatt Hendrickson, does that name ring a bell at
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Be honest with you, I did not, So that was
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Wyat Hendrickson is a second lieutenant in the Air Force,
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for the Air Force. He got that COVID year senior
to go to Oklahoma State Mi alma mater, also the
home of the college Wrestling Hall of Fame. He went
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season on the season, right and a defending Olympic champion,
defending national champion, and beat him and beat him and
again like you can feel however you want to feel
about the President of the United States. He is the
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We put it exclusively on the podcast today. So what
was missing this this this weekend right was the upsets
didn't feel like there were any. And I saw a
tweet which is I mean, God, bless her because she's
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she's a friend, and it Nicole Arbach, who works for
Serious XM and NBC Sports. She tweeted two non nil
factors that led to the lack of Cinderella's in the
national in the NCAA Tournament Conference realignment. B Yu very
recently used to be in the WCC Houston in the
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acc AAC and veteran former mid major players finishing careers
at Power Conference schools, which by the way, is nil.
I mean, oh, dear Lord, I don't hate to say
I told you so, but I told you so, right,
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I mean, all the teams are Power Conference schools, and
more than anything, I counted like three or four where
there was a real disparity between haves and have nots
financially and success in the tournament. I just kind of
go through it and you're like, wait, why weren't there
more upsets? And by the way, if you want to
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say McNeice is an upset over Clemson, you don't actually
know the sport. I would guess that McNeese spends as
much or more money on an il as Clemson does,
and like Clempson's in the ACC, I know, just take
my word for it. So what we've done is we've
made college basketball, and I actually think college football we've
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made it like major League baseball. That's what we've done
Major League baseball. And in Major League Baseball, there's a
reason the Dodgers have been in the playoffs. How many
consecutive years have they been the playoffs? There? Jay still
it seems like fifteen straight years.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
But since like twenty thirteen, was that like twelve years
or something.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, and the disparity is even more great now, and
you don't have a farm system, and there's rules and
things in place, okay, Like look with Major League Baseball,
you don't get arbitration eligible to what your fourth year
in the BIGS. That's after you're in the minors. So
there's a way actually to beat to be kind of competitive,
as we've seen with Tampa and with some of these
other other small market teams. But I mean, if you
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ask yourself, honestly, it's more of an upset when the
Red Sox and Yankees and Cubs and Dodgers don't reach
the playoffs than when they do reach the playoffs. You know,
when the Padres don't win in the playoffs, it's or that,
you know, all the teams with money, all the big
market teams, and that's what we have in college basketball.
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Even more so, though even more so because the disparity
is if again, if we take what I am told
is the budget of these teams, which are between two
and a half as the very least in maybe two
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is the very least in Power five basketballs two million dollars.
You're talking about teams at my level, at our level,
and we're not at the top end of it. But
the top end of my league, the Horizon League, is
like four hundred thousand dollars spread out amongst your roster.
And again we are nowhere. I just I'm telling you,
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I'm nowhere near the top. So you have a complete
you have the haves and the have nots, and then
you don't have binding, lengthy contracts. So the reward for
discovering a kid, recruiting a kid, developing a kid, and
making a kid better is after a year, when they're
really good, they move on and make more money. What
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you used to have at the college level, what you
used to have at the college level is four and
five year guys, maybe even a six year guy. And
now what you have at the college level is, yeah,
you have the four or five year guys, six year guys,
but the bigger schools are buying those guys up because
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they know they are of more value. So I mean, again,
we can sit here and say what it's about and
what it's not about. It's about the money. Don't get
me wrong. You still need coaching, you still need role
acceptance and guys to be put in the proper roles.
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The coaching hasn't changed, but the disparity in the talent
has and it's spread out among levels. But what's at
the high major level. Look, they can pay hey, guys
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars
to sit on the bench, and it's hard for players.
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There are guys who are like, you know, i'd coach.
I'd like to come play for you, but I can make.
That's money I'll never make playing basketball. To just sit
there and to work out every day. And you can
preach to them, hey, come play for us for two
years and you can make two x three x four
x of that, but there's no promise of that. And
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they all watch the tournament and when you know eighty
eight percent of one league makes the tournament, they're like, yeah,
I could do that, but I get to be in
the tournament, not understanding that every basketball player has this
thought of their way better than they actually are. Most
people do, so you, no matter what you're being paid,
you think I'm gonna prove them wrong and I'm gonna
play more and I'm gonna be a part of it.
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And you know, if you play in one of those leagues,
there's a better than better than fifty to fifty shot
you're going to play in the tournament, why would you
go to one of the Cindrellas. So I don't know
if we've ruined it or we've just stained it, or
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it's a stain that is fixable once we have some
sort of playing field leveler. But that was a weird
weekend to watch where without watching you knew what the
outcome was going to be, if you had any sort
of understanding of it. You know, I still enjoyed it.
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I still think there's really good basketball, and there's really
good stories. But again, if we're honest with ourselves, we
have made it nearly impossible to ever have a Butler,
to ever have a because Butler at the time was
in the Horizon League, to ever have a George Mason,
ever have a VCU, to ever have one of those.
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It's one thing to pull off a one game upset,
something that really can't truly happened this year. It's a
whole other thing to pull off four consecutive upsets against
teams with twenty thirty, forty times the money. So I
enjoyed it, but I kind of knew the out. It
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was a lot like. It's a lot like if somebody
told you the ending to a movie and then said,
but no, no, you'll enjoy the movie, and you're like, yeah,
I like the movie. But I knew that he was
going to die in the end, right if somebody told
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you I remember a return of the Jedi, and I
knew that Darth took off his helmet towards the end
of the movie. So the entire movie I struggled to watch.
I mean, I was a little kid at the time,
but I kept asking my brother, who had seen the movie,
wins our Vader going to take off his helmet. It's
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kind of what college basketballs become. So be it Jedi.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
This is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
There's other portions to it we need to get to.
You know, Danny Hurley losing and the secret audio of
him talking about the reps. There's whether or not Derek
Queen transfer traveled on his game winner against Colorado State.
There's the coaches now moving is Nico Medved after that
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game has now taken the job at the University of Minnesota,
his alma mater. Or he did not play basketball. He
was a hockey player, by the way, And there was
a manager growing up. But you know the tournament was
built on the backs of mid major teams colossal upsets.
Finding out about Steph Curry and CJ. McCullum. I mean,
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go back and think of Harold the Show Arsenal. If
you go back and think about the names you remember
from TJ. Soarrantine from Vermont, those days are gone, man
Or the likelihood of seeing multiple wins is infintestimal because
not only are their starters better, are their coaches and
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travel better funded and everything, but they pay players more
to sit on the bench than you can play for
your entire team.
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anyone who was played against his teams not surprised from
the times that his team's terrorized us when I was
at Oklahoma State to what he's done before and since.
Calvin Sampson is a Hall of Fame basketball coach and
his team's in the Sweet sixteen yet again and a
favorite across all boards. To reach the final fourties kind
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of have to spend some time this year on Fox
Sports Radio. Coach, how are you doing good?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You're still one of the top point guards leading a
three on one, two on one, three two past break automatic.
You were going to find the right guy.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
We were definitely gonna get a buck in half court,
maybe not as much as he didn't have to guard me.
So you paid an accurate, accurate, positive, positive picture. What's
your assessment of how your team played first weekend of
the tournament.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Well, in the first game, it was all about mindset
and immaturity, making sure you're your leaders have dialed in
because you know every game is important. You know you
get the one sixteen. But our team has been able
to be good this year because of our player leadership,
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and so I give a lot of credit to that
game to l J. Crier and uh J One Roberts.
Those two guys are unbelievable leaders. The Gonzaga game was
a one of those games. When I saw the brackets
I saw in Zaga, Georgia said, well, if it's Gonzaga,
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that's going to be a holy war mark. And the
Zaga program is there. Weren't bench smart programs in the
in the country. Over how many years I mean they
went to night who goes to ninth straight Sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Sixteen Gonzaga at Gonzaga too.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, unbelievable, And and they were playing their best basketball
when they put huffs at the fourth spot. And that
means they started two fives yeah each kay and huffed
And then knew of them was going to be tough
because if you're having to double the post on both
sides of the floor, as good as nim Hart is
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they were, they were going to be dangerous. So I
felt we were dialed into that game as well, played
really really good until the last two minutes in their
half court one three one trap gave us some problems.
But you know, when you get to the tournament, Dug
and you win a game, the last thing you want
to do is go backwards and analyze. You just survive
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in advance and move on.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I want to get to this year's team and this
week and this weekend. But like for people who I
don't know how many people in college basketball remember, but
before you got there, like Houston was a dead end job.
It just was. It was friends and family only nobody went.
Obviously back when it was Hoff Hinds was a decrepit
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old building. They threw a bunch of money into it.
It's beautiful now. But look, you you're a builder right
from from Montana Tech to Wazoo to Oklahoma. Wasn't great
when you took it over to Indiana when you took
it over? What has what has this build been like
in comparison to the others.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I've enjoyed this one more because of Kellen and Lauren
being with me. You know, when I was with the
Houston Rockets and I got approached about this opportunity, you know,
my agent goes, okay, there's three report schools. This almost
to interview you. This wants to hire you. This one's
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the press conference tomorrow. And that's how he was characterized
in all of them. But as the stars started aligning
a little bit, Kellyn had just been fired at Appalachian Stake.
You know, that's my son. I know what kind of
person he is. I know his work as a I
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know the kind of basketball mind he has. My daughter
Lauren was then a job where she was doing pretty good,
but it wasn't her willhouse that she's a little bit miserable,
and so I said, I told the athletics breaker at
the time, Mac Rose. If you can find a way
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to allow me to hire killing and then bring Lauren
in the next year, I think we can get this done.
So this one has been the most fun. I think
this one has been by far the hardest because of
the apathy, lack of support, just the general view of
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what Houston basketball was. They were still attaching themselves to
fight Slamajama and you know, almost forty years ago, so
so we didn't really have a lot to build home,
so we just started building. You know, sometimes you inherit
a winning program. Sometimes you got to build a winning program,
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but been able to do it by with my family
and Karen here. You know. That's that's why this has
been the best job I've ever had, because I've you know,
my my grandkids live three miles away. I see my
two kids every day. We go through this journey together
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and it's it's been just a thrill of a lifetime
from me. It's an unbelievable way too. You know, obviously
this is going to be my last thoughts and when
I decided to okay, that's it. UH. I'll look back
at my time at the University of Houston as the
UH as the UH best time in my career?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
What will be the determining factor? I mean, you know
how how it works when you when you become so
well respected, and you built it up this point and
you have it perfectly set up for Kelen to take over.
You got to make that tough decision. What will be
the determined factor as to win you decide? I'm not
going to do this.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, the fair question, and I really am not sure
even how to answer it. I do know that this
is very much a young man's a young man's time.
You know, I came up in the eighties and nineties,
and you know, Judge Heathcote, I owe him so much
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giving me opportunity to get started. And then Montana Tech
took a chance on a twenty five year old guy,
watching the state took a chance on a thirty one
year old guy. So I was pretty good at getting
hard jobs. But then again a lot of people had
to turn those jobs down for it even got to me.
So but when I look back and then I look forward,
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you always want to leave the place that you were
in better shape, and obviously this one is. But I
still want to make sure that Kellen has been a
position where he's got a chance to win right away too.
So my plan, my plan is, I'm I'm definitely going
to coach on next season, and then you know, you
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just never know. I mean, I may be here five
more years, I may be here four more years. I
don't know. I doubt it, but you never know.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
You do never know. Kelvin Sampson's our guest here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let's get to this weekend. So now you know, Purdue
a team that reputation wise rugged Big ten, but no
one has the defensive reputation your team, your team has.
What's what's the biggest challenge. You've done the Sweet sixteen,
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you've done the Final four so often. What's the biggest
challenge for this group in getting ready for Purdue.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
First of all, we respect your opponents. You forget what
other people saying things because that's irrelevant to your to
uh your mission, our missions to go play our best
brand of basketball. Our you know, we have a clear
identity Doug on how we play. And I think when
you get in the tournament, sometimes the bright lights and
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all the attention can chain some kids. And my little
Uzan had never played in the tournament. Now he's got
two games. Undris felt I like the way he handled
the moment. So, you know, for us is being good
at the things we're good at. You can't always assume
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you're going to shoot the ball great, you can't always
assume that, uh, you're going to get a great whistle.
Those are things that are out of your control. So
being able to you know, play defense and rebound, doing
doing the things that got us here. You know, we've
won a lot of road games on nights. Some nights
we shot it good, some nights we didn't, but we
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always found a way to win the game. I think
that's been our identity. If you watch this early not
very good offensively, you watch this late a lot more
symmetry with our offense. Our spacing has been better, our
offensive rebounds, rebound has been a little bit more consistent
than the physical nature of the game. Last year, we
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played A and M in the second round in Memphis.
I think both teams went to the line fifty times
a piece, and we have four guys file out. But
that was a that was a tight whistle because back
of the game the other night was a little bit
of a looser whistle. So those are things that the
players don't worry about, but the old coaches do it
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a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, well coach, listen, it's not here to catch
up with you.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We all watch and marvel at what you're able to do,
how hard to able to compete and uh and I
know this team is better offensively obviously. You know in
the last year you had a tough injury that really
ended ended to run unfortunately. But best of luck this weekend,
and thanks so much for spend some time with us.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Always always good to be with you, Doug. And that's
the luck to you in year two.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Oh well, we're gonna we're gonna need it, but I
appreciate That's Kelvin Samson, head coach of the Koogs of Houston.
I will point this out. And did you guys watch
the end of the Maryland Colorado State game? Where did
did Jay stew Were you watching? I know by you
were watching that, I'm sure were you working at the time.
(23:38):
I'm trying to get my time of what it was
because I'm in Green Bay and so it was dark outside.
Were you on air byre during the end of the.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Maryland No, I did the Show with Mike Harmon yesterday.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yes, okay, So did you happen to catch the end
of it? Yes, okay, I want to make sure, like
I don't want to speak at it at a term,
it was a really that was a fun game to watch,
really competitive, and at the very end of the game,
the very end of the game, Colorado State gets a
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huge three from Jalen Lake. And Jalen Lake, it's only
interesting because he's actually spent four years at Colorado State.
You're like, wait, what you know? It's like the Beta max.
They still make you, only to be outdone by a
kid named Derek Queen, who's star freshman center for Maryland.
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Derek Queen is a tremendous player. Sixteen a game, sixteen
and nine, gonna be a first round pick. And there's
a couple different parts to it. First, here's let's just
get the thoughts really quick of Maryland's head coach Kevin Willard,
who said this about the decision to get Derek Queen
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the ball at the end of the game. I asked everybody,
I said, who wants the ball?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
And he said, give me the MF ball.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
And I said you're getting it, and I said don't
mess around, go after.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
It and do it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And I give him a lot, right, man, the big
dog came up and throw all right, so that that
part of it is awesome, awesome, right, give me the
ball and he goes and gets a bucket and he
caught it basically top of the key. Squeepes goes to
his left hand and shoot said kind of runner, pull
up off his right foot with a bank shot. And
that's what it's a hard shot. It was good defense,
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even better offense. And I think it was over Cam
Heidie Cameron Heidi, who played last year for Producer. I
mean it's like he's going against a high level defender.
And what happens on social media is that's a travel.
That's a travel They CBS, trots G or maybe it
(25:54):
was TNT. I don't remember watching all the networks. Right,
Jeane's Sterotor comes out. Jean Sterritor is the or what's
the term. He's their official and the rules analysts or
something right, and Jeans of course from NFL ref but
also college basketball ref. And he's like, yeah, I mean
I don't really see a travel there, like you know it.
(26:14):
He kind of explains the gathering rule whatever, and yet
even to today, like if you want to peruse into
social media, you get people likes to travel. I thought
Nico medved he was like, I don't know, they didn't
call it, so it's not a travel like I even
he hadn't even seen even thought about it. And there's
a couple of different parts too. Here's the first important
part when you travel, if a guy travels, especially the
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guy with the basketball travels. First of all, when you
look at the bench, usually the opposing bench is all
going to be doing the traveling symbol, right, and there'll
be people in the crowd doing the travel travel thing.
I didn't see any of that. Also, when you if
you're Dare Queen and you travel, it's a lot like
when you misspeak or you yet you're syntaxes off in
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the English langue, which it just feels weird, is it is?
Or are I'm always confused, right if you use the
wrong tense or you know the wrong pronoun, you use
the wrong verb, you use these like, it feels weird.
Traveling is much the same way you play basketball. And
Derek Queen's a young kid thing, he's like nineteen years old,
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so he's been playing basketball probably for I don't know,
twelve years, ten twelve years, like you get it. And
if he traveled, it would have felt weird and he'd
be like, eh, yeah, i'll count it. None of that happened.
But the bigger thing is we've become these we've become.
This is who we've become, and I get it. We
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wanted upset so badly. Cairodo State felt like an upset
against Maryland, right that you'll do anything to point out
the flaws in something great. And again, it doesn't mean
we need it to be artificial. We don't need it
to be like you know, he gets the ball and
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he runs five or six steps and then everybody stops.
It's like, what the heck? And then he lays the
ball in. You had the rules analysts say it wasn't
a travel You had no one in the stands or
on the Colorado States bench doing the travel symbol. It
may have left a little different to you because he
jumped off his right foot and the gather wasn't until
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it was. I mean, was it technically maybe close? Okay,
This is like Jordan's push off of Brian Russell, like
what are we really doing? Why have we found the
need to find flaw in everything. This is the Sidney
Crawford has the mole. I'm aware Sidney Crawford has a mole.
(28:44):
Have any of you who point out Sidney Crawford has
a mole been like, if Sidney Crawford wants to go
out with you, You're like, I don't know she's got a mole. No,
I'm just not in the like moles creep me out.
I can't stop staring at them. No, you're going out
with Sidney Crawford. And I know the Cidey Crawford reference
might be a little bit too old, right, but Sidney Crawford,
by the way, is still hot. I don't think anybody
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would still point out she's like sixty and she's still amazing.
So we have to stop this. We have to stop
finding flaw or controversy or a conspiracy in literally everything.
Derek Queen just made a really, really hard shot. Marylynd's
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gonna move on. It sucks. If you were super invested
into Colorado State basketball for the last weekend, or if
you followed this team all year, it's been a really
cool story. But I mean even the opposing coach was
not like it was a blatant travel whatever they got
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away with it. It's like, I don't know, right, So
I just how do we become those people? Dan? Did
you did you think it was a blatant travel?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I didn't think it was a travel at all.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right, I love it. Yeah, I mean you have you
have the rules analyst, a guy who's officiated final fours,
but like you didn't see much anything there. But you're like, no, no,
I know. I'm right, Like, no, you don't. You don't
actually know how the rule is officiated. I just I
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don't know what to do with people like that. It'd
be one thing if he was like, yeah, you know,
it's kind of close, but you don't call it in
that spot and there's some arguing, but he was like,
no that I don't even see a travel there. But
that's who we become. We've become that obnoxious guy that's
sitting there going like she's too skinny, Like, dude, she
(30:57):
would you would never be able to ask her out ever,
and you're like, yeah, but she's just just skiddy.
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show is Fox Sports Radio. I was,
uh this it sounds creepy, so I'm gonna make sure
that I say. While watching the New Mexico game, I
was thinking of Dan Byer only because I love New
Mexico's red uniforms right, which I think they're cherry is
the color that they call it cherry and then they
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have the cherry and they have just a little bit
of baby blue around and then it says Lobos in
white and the it was they were the uniforms were spectacular.
But the other part that so I was thinking of
Dan Byer, who's like our resident uniform officionado. Right sounds hot. Yeah.
Of the things that he has by his name, you know,
like when you read the Dan Byer bio, it's like, uh,
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Doug Gottliebs Show. You know, he's got his weekend show
on Fox Sports Radio. He's got the U I Want
Your Flex podcast. Uh, he has just a litany of
things and official uniforms analyst for Fox Sports Radio. I
don't know if that if you get paid additionally per
month because of that, but he is I was thinking
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last night, Dan, when I saw the Lobos uniforms.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Well, I'll tell you what I really did like, and
this may surprise you, is the New Mexico flag is
such a classic look. And I saw someone in the
crowd with that flag on their hat, and I'm just like, man, like,
if you have a good state flag, yes, like Minnesota
just they have a new flag. They changed their new
flag within the past year, and I'm like, man, that
could be really trendy and stylish. There are some that
(32:45):
just don't work, and there are some that are amazing,
like Maryland's or New Mexico's, and so it really worked.
So even along those lines, Doug, I.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Like that, that's a good idea. You're you're helping, like,
because I'll say you, it's interesting you're thinking about uniforms
in the future. The Wisconsonant state flag is blue. I
think it's pretty cool, but it is blue. But I
guess that the question becomes question becomes tell me, Well,
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here's what I took away from those uniforms. I know
we gotta get to game time. Is most road uniforms
have the team's school name on them. That one has
the nickname on them, and New Mexican has a bunch
of They have the baby blue uniforms, which are for
Native Americans. They have the state flag uniforms which are yellow.
That's cool, and they have the white. But the breakthrough
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for those uniforms was it was their nickname on their
road colored uniforms. That's not traditional, not traditional, but it
did make me think, like, I love we were gonna
get we were gonna get green uniforms that look like
the Boston Celtics uniforms, only to say Phoenix across the front.
And they were like, eh, road uniforms usually say Green
(33:56):
Bay and I wanted to have the green and then
the number. And they're like, no, you don't separate them,
Like well that's what most people anyway. Enough about uniforms,
let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Like the old Ohio State Ones or what Tennessee does
with Tennessee on top and volunteers under the number. That's
what you wanted to do with the Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Do you guys like the Bucky the Badger on the
shorts for whisky. I liked doing that a little bit.
Those uniforms is on the back. It looks like it's
like a heartbeat, but it's the city sky. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's really really awesome. All right, Uh, let's get to it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Rick Bettino
benched r J Lewis late and their loss to Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Uh, I think it's a big deal. I also think
it's a big deal because we would all I agree.
Rick Patino has forgotten more about basketball than most of
us know. Right, and yet again you watch social media,
it's like, what Rick, but you I don't care if
he's old of twenty, you still play r J. Lewis like,
(35:12):
I don't know, man, guy has a pretty good feel
for basketball. I'm gonna go with Rick Patino. So and
then we're like asking him afterwards He's like, you know
why I took him out? Like why are you asking me?
He wasn't playing well.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
My My my favorite was that he says, I'm not
gonna publicly criticize a player. Yet a year ago he
told us how many players could not move laterally, and
he named one. I think it was played it yesterday.
It was Sean Conley. I believe Sean Conley cannot move laterally.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Uh yeah, I was one of those. I think I
was a kid from Harbor. But anyway, what else you got,
big deal, little deal of no deal.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
The ejection of Dawson Baker in the Wisconsin BYU game
for that elbow to the groin.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I thought that was a big one. And he's trying
to sweep through a double team, step through a double team,
and he he cut him in the in the unmentionables right,
caught him, as my friend Steven Bardo says in the future, Yeah,
that was a big deal. That was no one thought
it was intentional, and yet we threw him out of
the game for it.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah. And the possession the free throws.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That real did change with the game in question.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And uh actually, we're out of time. Yeah,
I don't want to. I don't want to waste it
because you're gonna be crunched on time. But maybe we'll get.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Time talking about reforms. I apologize.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
That's game time.
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the take the con if you will, and we'll get
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defending national champion, and beat him and beat him and
again like you can feel however you want to feel
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We put it exclusively on the podcast today. So what
was missing this this this weekend right was the upsets
didn't feel like there were any. And I saw a
tweet which is I mean, God, bless her because she's
(03:19):
she's a friend, and it Nicole Arbach, who works for
Serious XM and NBC Sports. She tweeted two non nil
factors that led to the lack of Cinderella's in the
national in the NCAA Tournament Conference realignment. B Yu very
recently used to be in the WCC Houston in the
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acc AAC and veteran former mid major players finishing careers
at Power Conference schools, which by the way, is nil.
I mean, oh, dear Lord, I don't hate to say
I told you so, but I told you so, right,
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I mean, all the teams are Power Conference schools, and
more than anything, I counted like three or four where
there was a real disparity between haves and have nots
financially and success in the tournament. I just kind of
go through it and you're like, wait, why weren't there
more upsets? And by the way, if you want to
(04:24):
say McNeice is an upset over Clemson, you don't actually
know the sport. I would guess that McNeese spends as
much or more money on an il as Clemson does,
and like Clempson's in the ACC, I know, just take
my word for it. So what we've done is we've
made college basketball, and I actually think college football we've
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made it like major League baseball. That's what we've done
Major League baseball. And in Major League Baseball, there's a
reason the Dodgers have been in the playoffs. How many
consecutive years have they been the playoffs? There? Jay still
it seems like fifteen straight years.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
But since like twenty thirteen, was that like twelve years
or something.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, and the disparity is even more great now, and
you don't have a farm system, and there's rules and
things in place, okay, Like look with Major League Baseball,
you don't get arbitration eligible to what your fourth year
in the BIGS. That's after you're in the minors. So
there's a way actually to beat to be kind of competitive,
as we've seen with Tampa and with some of these
other other small market teams. But I mean, if you
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ask yourself, honestly, it's more of an upset when the
Red Sox and Yankees and Cubs and Dodgers don't reach
the playoffs than when they do reach the playoffs. You know,
when the Padres don't win in the playoffs, it's or that,
you know, all the teams with money, all the big
market teams, and that's what we have in college basketball.
(05:58):
Even more so, though even more so because the disparity
is if again, if we take what I am told
is the budget of these teams, which are between two
and a half as the very least in maybe two
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is the very least in Power five basketballs two million dollars.
You're talking about teams at my level, at our level,
and we're not at the top end of it. But
the top end of my league, the Horizon League, is
like four hundred thousand dollars spread out amongst your roster.
And again we are nowhere. I just I'm telling you,
(06:40):
I'm nowhere near the top. So you have a complete
you have the haves and the have nots, and then
you don't have binding, lengthy contracts. So the reward for
discovering a kid, recruiting a kid, developing a kid, and
making a kid better is after a year, when they're
really good, they move on and make more money. What
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you used to have at the college level, what you
used to have at the college level is four and
five year guys, maybe even a six year guy. And
now what you have at the college level is, yeah,
you have the four or five year guys, six year guys,
but the bigger schools are buying those guys up because
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they know they are of more value. So I mean, again,
we can sit here and say what it's about and
what it's not about. It's about the money. Don't get
me wrong. You still need coaching, you still need role
acceptance and guys to be put in the proper roles.
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The coaching hasn't changed, but the disparity in the talent
has and it's spread out among levels. But what's at
the high major level. Look, they can pay hey, guys
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars
to sit on the bench, and it's hard for players.
(08:08):
There are guys who are like, you know, i'd coach.
I'd like to come play for you, but I can make.
That's money I'll never make playing basketball. To just sit
there and to work out every day. And you can
preach to them, hey, come play for us for two
years and you can make two x three x four
x of that, but there's no promise of that. And
(08:31):
they all watch the tournament and when you know eighty
eight percent of one league makes the tournament, they're like, yeah,
I could do that, but I get to be in
the tournament, not understanding that every basketball player has this
thought of their way better than they actually are. Most
people do, so you, no matter what you're being paid,
you think I'm gonna prove them wrong and I'm gonna
play more and I'm gonna be a part of it.
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And you know, if you play in one of those leagues,
there's a better than better than fifty to fifty shot
you're going to play in the tournament, why would you
go to one of the Cindrellas. So I don't know
if we've ruined it or we've just stained it, or
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it's a stain that is fixable once we have some
sort of playing field leveler. But that was a weird
weekend to watch where without watching you knew what the
outcome was going to be, if you had any sort
of understanding of it. You know, I still enjoyed it.
(09:39):
I still think there's really good basketball, and there's really
good stories. But again, if we're honest with ourselves, we
have made it nearly impossible to ever have a Butler,
to ever have a because Butler at the time was
in the Horizon League, to ever have a George Mason,
ever have a VCU, to ever have one of those.
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It's one thing to pull off a one game upset,
something that really can't truly happened this year. It's a
whole other thing to pull off four consecutive upsets against
teams with twenty thirty, forty times the money. So I
enjoyed it, but I kind of knew the out. It
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was a lot like. It's a lot like if somebody
told you the ending to a movie and then said,
but no, no, you'll enjoy the movie, and you're like, yeah,
I like the movie. But I knew that he was
going to die in the end, right if somebody told
(10:54):
you I remember a return of the Jedi, and I
knew that Darth took off his helmet towards the end
of the movie. So the entire movie I struggled to watch.
I mean, I was a little kid at the time,
but I kept asking my brother, who had seen the movie,
wins our Vader going to take off his helmet. It's
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kind of what college basketballs become. So be it Jedi.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
This is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
There's other portions to it we need to get to.
You know, Danny Hurley losing and the secret audio of
him talking about the reps. There's whether or not Derek
Queen transfer traveled on his game winner against Colorado State.
There's the coaches now moving is Nico Medved after that
(11:48):
game has now taken the job at the University of Minnesota,
his alma mater. Or he did not play basketball. He
was a hockey player, by the way, And there was
a manager growing up. But you know the tournament was
built on the backs of mid major teams colossal upsets.
Finding out about Steph Curry and CJ. McCullum. I mean,
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go back and think of Harold the Show Arsenal. If
you go back and think about the names you remember
from TJ. Soarrantine from Vermont, those days are gone, man
Or the likelihood of seeing multiple wins is infintestimal because
not only are their starters better, are their coaches and
(12:38):
travel better funded and everything, but they pay players more
to sit on the bench than you can play for
your entire team.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
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Start gott Leep Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And
anyone who was played against his teams not surprised from
the times that his team's terrorized us when I was
at Oklahoma State to what he's done before and since.
Calvin Sampson is a Hall of Fame basketball coach and
his team's in the Sweet sixteen yet again and a
favorite across all boards. To reach the final fourties kind
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of have to spend some time this year on Fox
Sports Radio. Coach, how are you doing good?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You're still one of the top point guards leading a
three on one, two on one, three two past break automatic.
You were going to find the right guy.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
We were definitely gonna get a buck in half court,
maybe not as much as he didn't have to guard me.
So you paid an accurate, accurate, positive, positive picture. What's
your assessment of how your team played first weekend of
the tournament.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Well, in the first game, it was all about mindset
and immaturity, making sure you're your leaders have dialed in
because you know every game is important. You know you
get the one sixteen. But our team has been able
to be good this year because of our player leadership,
(14:14):
and so I give a lot of credit to that
game to l J. Crier and uh J One Roberts.
Those two guys are unbelievable leaders. The Gonzaga game was
a one of those games. When I saw the brackets
I saw in Zaga, Georgia said, well, if it's Gonzaga,
(14:36):
that's going to be a holy war mark. And the
Zaga program is there. Weren't bench smart programs in the
in the country. Over how many years I mean they
went to night who goes to ninth straight Sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Sixteen Gonzaga at Gonzaga too.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, unbelievable, And and they were playing their best basketball
when they put huffs at the fourth spot. And that
means they started two fives yeah each kay and huffed
And then knew of them was going to be tough
because if you're having to double the post on both
sides of the floor, as good as nim Hart is
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they were, they were going to be dangerous. So I
felt we were dialed into that game as well, played
really really good until the last two minutes in their
half court one three one trap gave us some problems.
But you know, when you get to the tournament, Dug
and you win a game, the last thing you want
to do is go backwards and analyze. You just survive
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in advance and move on.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I want to get to this year's team and this
week and this weekend. But like for people who I
don't know how many people in college basketball remember, but
before you got there, like Houston was a dead end job.
It just was. It was friends and family only nobody went.
Obviously back when it was Hoff Hinds was a decrepit
(16:00):
old building. They threw a bunch of money into it.
It's beautiful now. But look, you you're a builder right
from from Montana Tech to Wazoo to Oklahoma. Wasn't great
when you took it over to Indiana when you took
it over? What has what has this build been like
in comparison to the others.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I've enjoyed this one more because of Kellen and Lauren
being with me. You know, when I was with the
Houston Rockets and I got approached about this opportunity, you know,
my agent goes, okay, there's three report schools. This almost
to interview you. This wants to hire you. This one's
(16:43):
the press conference tomorrow. And that's how he was characterized
in all of them. But as the stars started aligning
a little bit, Kellyn had just been fired at Appalachian Stake.
You know, that's my son. I know what kind of
person he is. I know his work as a I
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know the kind of basketball mind he has. My daughter
Lauren was then a job where she was doing pretty good,
but it wasn't her willhouse that she's a little bit miserable,
and so I said, I told the athletics breaker at
the time, Mac Rose. If you can find a way
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to allow me to hire killing and then bring Lauren
in the next year, I think we can get this done.
So this one has been the most fun. I think
this one has been by far the hardest because of
the apathy, lack of support, just the general view of
(17:51):
what Houston basketball was. They were still attaching themselves to
fight Slamajama and you know, almost forty years ago, so
so we didn't really have a lot to build home,
so we just started building. You know, sometimes you inherit
a winning program. Sometimes you got to build a winning program,
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but been able to do it by with my family
and Karen here. You know. That's that's why this has
been the best job I've ever had, because I've you know,
my my grandkids live three miles away. I see my
two kids every day. We go through this journey together
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and it's it's been just a thrill of a lifetime
from me. It's an unbelievable way too. You know, obviously
this is going to be my last thoughts and when
I decided to okay, that's it. UH. I'll look back
at my time at the University of Houston as the
UH as the UH best time in my career?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
What will be the determining factor? I mean, you know
how how it works when you when you become so
well respected, and you built it up this point and
you have it perfectly set up for Kelen to take over.
You got to make that tough decision. What will be
the determined factor as to win you decide? I'm not
going to do this.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, the fair question, and I really am not sure
even how to answer it. I do know that this
is very much a young man's a young man's time.
You know, I came up in the eighties and nineties,
and you know, Judge Heathcote, I owe him so much
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giving me opportunity to get started. And then Montana Tech
took a chance on a twenty five year old guy,
watching the state took a chance on a thirty one
year old guy. So I was pretty good at getting
hard jobs. But then again a lot of people had
to turn those jobs down for it even got to me.
So but when I look back and then I look forward,
(19:58):
you always want to leave the place that you were
in better shape, and obviously this one is. But I
still want to make sure that Kellen has been a
position where he's got a chance to win right away too.
So my plan, my plan is, I'm I'm definitely going
to coach on next season, and then you know, you
(20:22):
just never know. I mean, I may be here five
more years, I may be here four more years. I
don't know. I doubt it, but you never know.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
You do never know. Kelvin Sampson's our guest here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let's get to this weekend. So now you know, Purdue
a team that reputation wise rugged Big ten, but no
one has the defensive reputation your team, your team has.
What's what's the biggest challenge. You've done the Sweet sixteen,
(20:53):
you've done the Final four so often. What's the biggest
challenge for this group in getting ready for Purdue.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
First of all, we respect your opponents. You forget what
other people saying things because that's irrelevant to your to
uh your mission, our missions to go play our best
brand of basketball. Our you know, we have a clear
identity Doug on how we play. And I think when
you get in the tournament, sometimes the bright lights and
(21:23):
all the attention can chain some kids. And my little
Uzan had never played in the tournament. Now he's got
two games. Undris felt I like the way he handled
the moment. So, you know, for us is being good
at the things we're good at. You can't always assume
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you're going to shoot the ball great, you can't always
assume that, uh, you're going to get a great whistle.
Those are things that are out of your control. So
being able to you know, play defense and rebound, doing
doing the things that got us here. You know, we've
won a lot of road games on nights. Some nights
we shot it good, some nights we didn't, but we
(22:06):
always found a way to win the game. I think
that's been our identity. If you watch this early not
very good offensively, you watch this late a lot more
symmetry with our offense. Our spacing has been better, our
offensive rebounds, rebound has been a little bit more consistent
than the physical nature of the game. Last year, we
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played A and M in the second round in Memphis.
I think both teams went to the line fifty times
a piece, and we have four guys file out. But
that was a that was a tight whistle because back
of the game the other night was a little bit
of a looser whistle. So those are things that the
players don't worry about, but the old coaches do it
(22:50):
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, well coach, listen, it's not here to catch
up with you.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We all watch and marvel at what you're able to do,
how hard to able to compete and uh and I
know this team is better offensively obviously. You know in
the last year you had a tough injury that really
ended ended to run unfortunately. But best of luck this weekend,
and thanks so much for spend some time with us.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Always always good to be with you, Doug. And that's
the luck to you in year two.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Oh well, we're gonna we're gonna need it, but I
appreciate That's Kelvin Samson, head coach of the Koogs of Houston.
I will point this out. And did you guys watch
the end of the Maryland Colorado State game? Where did
did Jay stew Were you watching? I know by you
were watching that, I'm sure were you working at the time.
(23:38):
I'm trying to get my time of what it was
because I'm in Green Bay and so it was dark outside.
Were you on air byre during the end of the.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Maryland No, I did the Show with Mike Harmon yesterday.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yes, okay, So did you happen to catch the end
of it? Yes, okay, I want to make sure, like
I don't want to speak at it at a term,
it was a really that was a fun game to watch,
really competitive, and at the very end of the game,
the very end of the game, Colorado State gets a
(24:11):
huge three from Jalen Lake. And Jalen Lake, it's only
interesting because he's actually spent four years at Colorado State.
You're like, wait, what you know? It's like the Beta max.
They still make you, only to be outdone by a
kid named Derek Queen, who's star freshman center for Maryland.
(24:34):
Derek Queen is a tremendous player. Sixteen a game, sixteen
and nine, gonna be a first round pick. And there's
a couple different parts to it. First, here's let's just
get the thoughts really quick of Maryland's head coach Kevin Willard,
who said this about the decision to get Derek Queen
(24:57):
the ball at the end of the game. I asked everybody,
I said, who wants the ball?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
And he said, give me the MF ball.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
And I said you're getting it, and I said don't
mess around, go after.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
It and do it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And I give him a lot, right, man, the big
dog came up and throw all right, so that that
part of it is awesome, awesome, right, give me the
ball and he goes and gets a bucket and he
caught it basically top of the key. Squeepes goes to
his left hand and shoot said kind of runner, pull
up off his right foot with a bank shot. And
that's what it's a hard shot. It was good defense,
(25:30):
even better offense. And I think it was over Cam
Heidie Cameron Heidi, who played last year for Producer. I
mean it's like he's going against a high level defender.
And what happens on social media is that's a travel.
That's a travel They CBS, trots G or maybe it
(25:54):
was TNT. I don't remember watching all the networks. Right,
Jeane's Sterotor comes out. Jean Sterritor is the or what's
the term. He's their official and the rules analysts or
something right, and Jeans of course from NFL ref but
also college basketball ref. And he's like, yeah, I mean
I don't really see a travel there, like you know it.
(26:14):
He kind of explains the gathering rule whatever, and yet
even to today, like if you want to peruse into
social media, you get people likes to travel. I thought
Nico medved he was like, I don't know, they didn't
call it, so it's not a travel like I even
he hadn't even seen even thought about it. And there's
a couple of different parts too. Here's the first important
part when you travel, if a guy travels, especially the
(26:39):
guy with the basketball travels. First of all, when you
look at the bench, usually the opposing bench is all
going to be doing the traveling symbol, right, and there'll
be people in the crowd doing the travel travel thing.
I didn't see any of that. Also, when you if
you're Dare Queen and you travel, it's a lot like
when you misspeak or you yet you're syntaxes off in
(26:59):
the English langue, which it just feels weird, is it is?
Or are I'm always confused, right if you use the
wrong tense or you know the wrong pronoun, you use
the wrong verb, you use these like, it feels weird.
Traveling is much the same way you play basketball. And
Derek Queen's a young kid thing, he's like nineteen years old,
(27:20):
so he's been playing basketball probably for I don't know,
twelve years, ten twelve years, like you get it. And
if he traveled, it would have felt weird and he'd
be like, eh, yeah, i'll count it. None of that happened.
But the bigger thing is we've become these we've become.
This is who we've become, and I get it. We
(27:40):
wanted upset so badly. Cairodo State felt like an upset
against Maryland, right that you'll do anything to point out
the flaws in something great. And again, it doesn't mean
we need it to be artificial. We don't need it
to be like you know, he gets the ball and
(28:01):
he runs five or six steps and then everybody stops.
It's like, what the heck? And then he lays the
ball in. You had the rules analysts say it wasn't
a travel You had no one in the stands or
on the Colorado States bench doing the travel symbol. It
may have left a little different to you because he
jumped off his right foot and the gather wasn't until
(28:23):
it was. I mean, was it technically maybe close? Okay,
This is like Jordan's push off of Brian Russell, like
what are we really doing? Why have we found the
need to find flaw in everything. This is the Sidney
Crawford has the mole. I'm aware Sidney Crawford has a mole.
(28:44):
Have any of you who point out Sidney Crawford has
a mole been like, if Sidney Crawford wants to go
out with you, You're like, I don't know she's got a mole. No,
I'm just not in the like moles creep me out.
I can't stop staring at them. No, you're going out
with Sidney Crawford. And I know the Cidey Crawford reference
might be a little bit too old, right, but Sidney Crawford,
by the way, is still hot. I don't think anybody
(29:05):
would still point out she's like sixty and she's still amazing.
So we have to stop this. We have to stop
finding flaw or controversy or a conspiracy in literally everything.
Derek Queen just made a really, really hard shot. Marylynd's
(29:27):
gonna move on. It sucks. If you were super invested
into Colorado State basketball for the last weekend, or if
you followed this team all year, it's been a really
cool story. But I mean even the opposing coach was
not like it was a blatant travel whatever they got
(29:47):
away with it. It's like, I don't know, right, So
I just how do we become those people? Dan? Did
you did you think it was a blatant travel?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I didn't think it was a travel at all.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Right, I love it. Yeah, I mean you have you
have the rules analyst, a guy who's officiated final fours,
but like you didn't see much anything there. But you're like, no, no,
I know. I'm right, Like, no, you don't. You don't
actually know how the rule is officiated. I just I
(30:33):
don't know what to do with people like that. It'd
be one thing if he was like, yeah, you know,
it's kind of close, but you don't call it in
that spot and there's some arguing, but he was like,
no that I don't even see a travel there. But
that's who we become. We've become that obnoxious guy that's
sitting there going like she's too skinny, Like, dude, she
(30:57):
would you would never be able to ask her out ever,
and you're like, yeah, but she's just just skiddy.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
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Speaker 2 (31:15):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show is Fox Sports Radio. I was,
uh this it sounds creepy, so I'm gonna make sure
that I say. While watching the New Mexico game, I
was thinking of Dan Byer only because I love New
Mexico's red uniforms right, which I think they're cherry is
the color that they call it cherry and then they
(31:36):
have the cherry and they have just a little bit
of baby blue around and then it says Lobos in
white and the it was they were the uniforms were spectacular.
But the other part that so I was thinking of
Dan Byer, who's like our resident uniform officionado. Right sounds hot. Yeah.
Of the things that he has by his name, you know,
like when you read the Dan Byer bio, it's like, uh,
(31:59):
Doug Gottliebs Show. You know, he's got his weekend show
on Fox Sports Radio. He's got the U I Want
Your Flex podcast. Uh, he has just a litany of
things and official uniforms analyst for Fox Sports Radio. I
don't know if that if you get paid additionally per
month because of that, but he is I was thinking
(32:20):
last night, Dan, when I saw the Lobos uniforms.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Well, I'll tell you what I really did like, and
this may surprise you, is the New Mexico flag is
such a classic look. And I saw someone in the
crowd with that flag on their hat, and I'm just like, man, like,
if you have a good state flag, yes, like Minnesota
just they have a new flag. They changed their new
flag within the past year, and I'm like, man, that
could be really trendy and stylish. There are some that
(32:45):
just don't work, and there are some that are amazing,
like Maryland's or New Mexico's, and so it really worked.
So even along those lines, Doug, I.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Like that, that's a good idea. You're you're helping, like,
because I'll say you, it's interesting you're thinking about uniforms
in the future. The Wisconsonant state flag is blue. I
think it's pretty cool, but it is blue. But I
guess that the question becomes question becomes tell me, Well,
(33:13):
here's what I took away from those uniforms. I know
we gotta get to game time. Is most road uniforms
have the team's school name on them. That one has
the nickname on them, and New Mexican has a bunch
of They have the baby blue uniforms, which are for
Native Americans. They have the state flag uniforms which are yellow.
That's cool, and they have the white. But the breakthrough
(33:36):
for those uniforms was it was their nickname on their
road colored uniforms. That's not traditional, not traditional, but it
did make me think, like, I love we were gonna
get we were gonna get green uniforms that look like
the Boston Celtics uniforms, only to say Phoenix across the front.
And they were like, eh, road uniforms usually say Green
(33:56):
Bay and I wanted to have the green and then
the number. And they're like, no, you don't separate them,
Like well that's what most people anyway. Enough about uniforms,
let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Like the old Ohio State Ones or what Tennessee does
with Tennessee on top and volunteers under the number. That's
what you wanted to do with the Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Do you guys like the Bucky the Badger on the
shorts for whisky. I liked doing that a little bit.
Those uniforms is on the back. It looks like it's
like a heartbeat, but it's the city sky. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's really really awesome. All right, Uh, let's get to it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Rick Bettino
benched r J Lewis late and their loss to Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Uh, I think it's a big deal. I also think
it's a big deal because we would all I agree.
Rick Patino has forgotten more about basketball than most of
us know. Right, and yet again you watch social media,
it's like, what Rick, but you I don't care if
he's old of twenty, you still play r J. Lewis like,
(35:12):
I don't know, man, guy has a pretty good feel
for basketball. I'm gonna go with Rick Patino. So and
then we're like asking him afterwards He's like, you know
why I took him out? Like why are you asking me?
He wasn't playing well.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
My My my favorite was that he says, I'm not
gonna publicly criticize a player. Yet a year ago he
told us how many players could not move laterally, and
he named one. I think it was played it yesterday.
It was Sean Conley. I believe Sean Conley cannot move laterally.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Uh yeah, I was one of those. I think I
was a kid from Harbor. But anyway, what else you got,
big deal, little deal of no deal.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
The ejection of Dawson Baker in the Wisconsin BYU game
for that elbow to the groin.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I thought that was a big one. And he's trying
to sweep through a double team, step through a double team,
and he he cut him in the in the unmentionables right,
caught him, as my friend Steven Bardo says in the future, Yeah,
that was a big deal. That was no one thought
it was intentional, and yet we threw him out of
the game for it.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah. And the possession the free throws.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
That real did change with the game in question.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And uh actually, we're out of time. Yeah,
I don't want to. I don't want to waste it
because you're gonna be crunched on time. But maybe we'll get.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Time talking about reforms. I apologize.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
That's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
This is game time on the Doug gott Leap Show.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I'll tell you what, here's what we'll do. We'll do
it coming up next. We'll get to some of that
stuff because you know, we'll let Dan uh take take
the take the con if you will, and we'll get
love and hate. What'd you love from the weekend? What'd
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